170. RHONJ filming plans; Carole Radziwill on RHONY? The Valley reunion pt 2; Denise Richards on RHOBH

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Unknown: Here's the thing, her
and Aaron did date one turn

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Jesse split, so clearly there
was a romantic interest there on

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both sides, right? So for me,
it's a moot point if my husband

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and I are in counseling and
we're trying to make our

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marriage work, which is what
they were saying first season

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what Michelle was saying, and
Jesse and I find out that my

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husband is dating a woman who he
confided in while we were

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married and working on our
marriage. It doesn't really

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matter if they physically
cheated or if they consider it

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an emotional affair, right?
Clearly, it could have helped

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her make the decision to
ultimately leave, which is why

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Jesse dislikes the guy so much.

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Welcome to cocktails and gossip,
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verify our blinds. I'm B and I'm
Amanda. Let's get into this

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week's team.

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What is up cocktail ers? Hello,
Amanda. We have so much to chat

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today. I know. Hi, B hog, hi,
cock tailors. I just off little

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tangent. Okay, have you been
watching the hunting wives?

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Okay, so, per your assignment, I
have been watching Gilded Age,

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starting with season one, which
I love. So thank you for giving

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me that little push to try it
again, by the way, a lot of

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people said, and I remembered, I
think I started it, and what you

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have to put the phone down and,
like, focus, and by the end of

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first episode you're in. Because
I had a lot of cocktails who

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were like, Eh, I started it. I'm
like, do me a favor. Just try it

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again. Yeah. And that's what I
did. Because I want to say I

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watched like, the first two
episodes, and I was like, meh,

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but I am watching it and really
liking it, so no, but I keep

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hearing about how good, well,
how wild. And one of our

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cocktails actually said it is
like soft porn well. So I

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actually immediately messaged
Tracy, and I was like, Tracy, if

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you're not watching the hunting
wives, because you know she's,

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she's our, she's our in house.
Perf, absolutely teasing guys.

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So I put it on, you can't look
away. It is soft porn. I don't I

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can't decide. You know, when
you're watching a show, it

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reminds me of, Tell me lies in
that not, in any other way. In

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that I'm watching this. I'm
like, these people are sick,

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these people are twisted.
They're all extremely flawed

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characters, right? But I keep
watching I don't know if I love

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it. I don't know if I hate it. I
don't know. But, like, are there

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some like kind of cringe moment?
Because, like, Tommy lies

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definitely has some like kind of
cringe moments where you're

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like, it's what's his name, the
guy, the football player,

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character, his on Tell me lies
like the writing on him. It's is

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so bad. It's so bad, right? Her
liar. I also can't figure out

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why I'm gonna butcher her name.
Malin Ackerman, the actress,

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beautiful woman. I can't figure
out why they have her in a cheap

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wig. First of all, she's wealthy
on the show. I don't know why

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she's wearing a wig at all. So,
like, yes, there's that. You

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know, I heard Heather McDonald
talk about this. She said she

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brought up the wig thing
specifically about her. And she

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said a lot of actresses, I
guess, Nicole Kidman wears one

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now all the time, because I
guess if you're washing and

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drying and styling every single
day, and like, from a continuity

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standpoint, the hair has to look
the same day, day in, day out,

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that it's really hard on
people's hair. So I guess a lot

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of people are wearing wigs now,
but this is a bad one. It's a

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bad one. I mean, it's well, now
I feel like I need to watch it

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just for the wig alone. Yeah. I
mean, we know so many actresses

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do, Nicole kidman's a great
example. But it never looks

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like, Oh, she's got a wig, like
you're looking at it, going, why

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does she have a wig on? Like,
thinking it's gonna become part

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of the story. But so far, and
I'm not finished, I think I'm

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like, two episodes away or one
so far, it's not part of the

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story. And I'm waiting for that
because I just stare at the wig.

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Well, I had not watched this
with children, as a matter of

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fact, my head opt in, and I
paused it, and I was like, this

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is adults only. And she was
like, why is that lady that wig

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is terrible. So like, if my kid
is noticing it, oh, my god, I

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love your spicy daughter. That's
so funny. She's so crazy. I

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watch it. I'm like, I'm not
explaining. It's adults only.

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Yeah, yeah. I started watching,
actually, Wednesday, the new

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season of Wednesday with my
daughter last night. And the

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writing is so good, like, so
it's like, you see a show like

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this, and the writing is
Wednesday, just whoever is

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writing her, it's just, it's,
she's just constantly insulting

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people. And it's so fun.

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Funny. I also have been watching
the Buccaneers with my daughter.

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I have to do there's a little
raciness, but, like, I think you

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see like a butt, maybe. But I
think it's okay to watch with

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pre teens, because it takes
place in the same era, in, like,

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New York City and in England. I
don't know, I've been watching a

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lot of other shows, like stick
with Owen Wilson. It's that golf

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show. It's like kind of Ted
lasso vibes. I see that now.

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That's something I could watch
with my husband, but you can

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watch it and with kids too. I've
got so much weird tea whenever I

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do those celebrity question
boxes that Owen will Wilson's an

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asshole that I'm kind of don't
know if I and I always loved

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him, like I love that Wedding,
wedding crashers, like I loved

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his movies, like that. But yeah,
in real life, I hear he's a

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jerk. So, yeah, I don't know.
And then I involved with or

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something too. I might be making
that up. That might be somebody

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else. Oh, I hadn't heard about
that. You and your husband

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should watch mob land, though,
because that is really so good.

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He actually started it and said
he would wait for me. And then

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we're never on the same
wavelength. We're always, you

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should do it before football
season starts. I know, I know

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it's always some sports season,
but like, baseball isn't as bad,

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especially the Mets are. They're
still, like, in a good place,

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but they've been losing, and you
can't watch every baseball game.

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So, yeah, I don't know guys,
it's hard out here in the Bravo

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and cocktail streets to watch
all of the television. Oh my

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gosh. So we haven't talked about
Jersey in a while, and I think

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we finally have some, well, we
had some Jersey how we add some

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housewives on Watch What Happens
Live. Andy teased that they're

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getting really close to being
ready to film. It's funny that

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Andy teased that because we had
heard and it has been confirmed

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by more than one source and
posted exclusively in cocktail

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so cocktail subscribers know,
the week of August 18, the new

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women, which there are five of,
are going okay. So when I say

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the new women, they have a bunch
of women on hold. They casted

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this wide net, which we shared
with you guys. They these are

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unknown women, and they said,
Sign this. You're not getting

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paid right now, but you are on
hold, meaning they can't pursue

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any other television
opportunities until the end of

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October. So I don't know how
many women sign that. Some and

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this is not the OGS who have
been on before. This is a

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different kind of hold than what
we we've heard like Melissa and

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some of those women around her,
some of the women that we saw

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briefly, like background people
may be included in it. Tiffany,

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like those people that like
weren't really featured. I'm not

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saying Tiffany specifically is,
but so they had test filmed with

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some women now they picked of
this large group. They now have

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five women who will be test
filming in their homes. I don't

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know. I'm trying to like word
this, it seems to me, based on

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what I've heard and based on the
names I've heard and their

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affiliations. Because I do know
some of the women. I don't know

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any of the women, obviously,
they're not known people. It's

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not like it's JWoww or Snooki,
you know what I mean, right?

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Just women out there, but they
have Instagram accounts. People

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have told me things. Some of
them are aligned with Teresa.

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Some of them are aligned more so
with Melissa, meaning they have

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connections through them, right?
They come on as their people,

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yeah. So I posted about this,
and I was very upfront. I said,

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Listen, I can confirm that there
are these women who have been,

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quote unquote on hold. Quote
unquote, new. We don't know

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them, not existing cast that
will be test filming in their

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house the week of August 18. But
I could not get anyone to give

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me a firm answer on who they
will be working with from the

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existing cast. So, yeah, so and
you guys know, we don't share

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people that we're hearing are
being cast if they're not

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already a public figure, so
that's why we're not. You know,

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one of the reasons we're not
naming any names, do you do we

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know if the women who are test
filming in their homes are doing

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any test filming with any of the
OGs. I did hear that I know

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that. Yes, I know that that's
happening now. That makes sense.

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I know that that's happening for
a couple of the women I don't

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know if that's happening, like
there are women I know it's

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happening for and for that I'm
hearing it's happening for. I

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don't know if all the older,
like, I don't mean older, you

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guys know what I mean, existing,
whatever, pre existing cast. I

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don't know if all of them are in
that mix. I do know that a

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couple of them are definitely
test filming with some of these

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girls. So it near ends when we
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This email, because it's not
just that we can't get a

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confirmation. It sounds like the
network is looking at these

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girls and then they're gonna
decide who they're going with

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from old cast. I'm gonna read
the email in a second, but my

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theory is that all this time
away from the cameras, and you

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know, we're seeing some of these
women go down to Australia and

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show their cookie on stage. I'm
guessing that maybe there has

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been some movement on whether
Melissa and Theresa will both

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film with each other. I'm
guessing maybe they have said

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they're open to it. I am not
saying that. They haven't said

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that, and I just don't know. I
think the network doesn't know

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which way it's gonna go. In
other words, yeah, oh, you don't

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remember, and then I'll finish
that. Okay, here's the email

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from just jersey. There are
currently five newbies in the

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final stage of casting, Once
that process is complete,

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producers from ITV America
through its division, sirens,

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media, along with executives
from NBC, Universal and Bravo,

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will evaluate the existing Real
Housewives of New Jersey cast to

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determine which veterans best
align with the new group based

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on personality and
relationships. Only two to three

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of the current veterans will be
selected to return Theresa

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judais, Melissa Gorga, Dolores,
Catania Margaret, Joseph Jackie

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Goldschneider and Jen Fessler
are still in the running with

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Dolores spot all but confirmed.
Jennifer Aiden, Danielle Cabral

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and Rachel FUDA are not
currently part of casting

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discussions, the goal is to
officially unveil the new cast

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at bravocon in November, with
filming tentatively scheduled to

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begin by late October to capture
the holiday season. So now we

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have to give you guys all our
thoughts on this. Yes, I can

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say, everybody that I've spoke
with says Dolores is a lock, and

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it makes sense. And the reason
being, Dolores has that OG

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energy, yeah, she wasn't. She
was featured since the beginning

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because she was friends with
Caroline. And she can go anyway,

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whomever, yeah, they pick from
pre existing cast. She can make

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it work, whoever the new girls
are, she can make it work. Yeah,

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now that makes sense. You were
saying, Do we think Theresa and

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Melissa said to the network, I
can record, I can film with

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anybody, even my sister in law.
I think Melissa has always been

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of the feeling like I can record
with her. It's no skin off my

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back. I think we know that
Theresa didn't want that. I

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think that there's a good
chance, as the money's, you

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know, and this isn't a knock on
Teresa. You have a job for so

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many years making by the end,
I'm sure, it was over $1 million

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and now for the last couple of
years, you haven't been seeing

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that check. So all of a sudden,
what you refuse to do. You're

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more inclined to say, You know
what, let's just get back in

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there. I'll figure it out.
Doesn't mean she'd enjoy it.

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Doesn't mean she wouldn't
prefer. I don't know if the

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network wants to do that like I
don't know they may say, listen,

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we're looking at these new
girls, and we're going to pick

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one way or the other, but we're
not having you both. Yeah,

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Jackie's name surprises me. Oh,
I was gonna ask you about that

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because, as I'm reading through
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a while since I've had some of
these women's last names, I was

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like, wait, I saw it in the
email. I'm like, and made a

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mental note to bring it up
today. It is kind of an

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interesting one. So we're
looking at the email right now,

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and sometimes when you read it,
and so if I'm looking at this

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email, I see Theresa's name, I
go, okay, so it could be Teresa

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Dolores, Jackie, new women, or
Melissa Margaret, Jen Fessler,

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new women. That's how I'm
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We know that Danielle Cabral is
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think is a maybe. I think if
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quite possible that we see
Rachel, and whether or not she's

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a friend of or works her way
back to a full time would be

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dependent on, like the other
women they pick. I wouldn't say

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Rachel's fully out. Does that
make sense? Yeah, and I could

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see, I mean, Jen Fessler, is she
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think so. I think well, because
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her, it was actually last
summer. I remember, because I

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was in the Bahamas when we did
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wrapped, she's like, once she
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the leaks and of this and that
and stuff, Louie had said she

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was kind of open about being
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I think she wanted to keep the
piece during filming, but, and I

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don't think Theresa would be
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Melissa Marge. Fessler.
Possibility of food up, because,

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if it's only those three, you
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I for one, if I'm picking and
we're assuming it's one of these

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scenarios that you just laid
out, that it's no Theresa and

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Melissa, which, honestly, I
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like to see them just have it
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Because, I mean, this is like,
family. I mean, they're at the

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point now where, like, none of
their kids talk anyway. I

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digress. I really want to see
Jen Fessler on our screens. I

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follow her on social media, and
she is just and having

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interviewed her, she is just a
lovely person. I enjoy Marge. I

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i Love Melissa. I love a
Delores. I mean, Rachel, I'm

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like, meh. I'm okay with not, if
she ends up not she's she's

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definitely on the bubble for me.
I can tell you, I don't want

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Jackie. I don't I don't like how
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the flip flopping. It'll never
feel authentic with Teresa. I

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would be more inclined not that
I want Aiden, but Aiden Teresa

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would make more sense. So the
thing with Margaret, right? So

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everyone will say, So Theresa
fans, I shouldn't say. Everyone

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will say, Oh, but Melissa is
boring. Melissa, first of all, I

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don't find Melissa boring. I
don't think so either. Margaret

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would be necessary in that
formula, because she knows how

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to get stuff going. Yeah, she'll
bring the drama with Teresa,

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Jackie and Dolores. Is it going
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She's not as good at it. It
doesn't feel she's not as

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skillful as Margaret, right? So
I think that Jackie and

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Margaret, whichever side they go
with, would be playing the same

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role, right? So they'd be
expected, because Theresa likes

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to sit back and not get her
hands dirty. It's just when

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people come for her, right?
Which would be unlikely. So it

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would be Jackie's job to figure
out what's Ola doing with the

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new ladies and get things going.
She's too obvious. She's not

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slick. Margaret has a much more
slick way about it. And I think

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it's interesting that they were
friends so long, because I do

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think they're similar in that
way, but in the same way that

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like Katie Janella isn't as
skillful at someone like Tamara

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on OC I feel the same about
Jackie. So I think a more

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interesting show would be
Melissa Margaret, dolo, newbies,

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Jen Fessler,

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but like Fessler, to me, Fessler
and dolo are similar. Maybe

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Fessler will get her, like, a
little bit more into it, but

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she's not going to be the
Margaret driving it. No, she's

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she's definitely not. And like,
people say, Melissa is boring.

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Let's bring on a girl a few
years younger, who owns a

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boutique, and let's give her
some competition, and let's see

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her like, you know what? I mean,
you could get her, yeah, it

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would be.

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Interesting to see Melissa face
some adversary, yes, adversity.

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That is not for once, Teresa or
Jen. So, yeah, it will happen

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without Teresa there. I agree. I
agree, either way, I'm excited.

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Let's get Jersey going. I also I
got an email that was very well,

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we got it. I'm sure you saw it.
I won't bother posting it,

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because it was very clearly from
somebody on the I think I even

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already deleted it. It was very
clearly from somebody on the

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Rhode Island cast be don't
listen to them. They're focusing

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on Rhode Island right now.
They're not. It's like, girls,

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calm down. We're all so excited
for your show. But jersey,

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there's a lot of tax breaks to
film in Jersey. They don't do,

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like, expensive trips so much
they they're gonna get Jersey

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going. 100% happening, yeah? Oh,
well, that's that is good. Like

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to hear 100% because I feel
like, until, until October,

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like, you know, well, I guess if
all five women suck, but I don't

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see that happening. There's a
lot of person, there's so much

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there's so much fan demand for
it as well. I, I will say guys.

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I might have shared who I I
think should be on, but I think

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it's, I guess, let me ask you
this before I give my opinion.

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B, do you think there is a world
in which they don't have Theresa

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on jersey? Like, actually,
really? I know, well, that's

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what you got to wrap your head
around. And honestly, and I know

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everyone says that I'm not a
Teresa fan. I like Teresa on the

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show. I just don't think the
people they'd be bringing on

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with her, Jackie and dolo. I
don't think those three would

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make it happen in the way the
other three would. But I, and I

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don't know this, they could very
well say, You know what we're

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having dolo, Melissa, Theresa
and Margaret. I just don't see

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them having them both. I think
that was the reason for the

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whole long pause. I don't think
enough has changed for them to

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change their stance on that.
Yeah, well, Money talks. So

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we'll see, I guess, and we'll be
updating you as we hear it,

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guys, so on that same episode of
Watch What Happens Live the

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surprise person, the mystery
housewife, was Carol radziwell

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from the Roni social media went
nuts about her appearance, and

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you guys will remember that a
couple weeks ago, we received

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and shared A pretty loaded email
about Roni. So in that email, it

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was mentioned that we could see
Carol return when cameras pick

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back up with the new women from
Roni. So here's what it where it

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gets complicated for Amanda and
I, we received that email, and

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there was a lot of Intel in that
email. We read it here. It's in

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cocktail party. It's also we
read it on the pod so everyone

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can hear it. The Carol part was
a little left field, but I did

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feel like people would love
that. So to remind you guys, the

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email essentially said that they
could use Carol as like, well,

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Carol. What news? Carol? That's
mean, have Carol come in as like

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a friend of Jenna, somebody that
would kind of bridge that world

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and kind of be that OG that
could come in and be amongst the

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other the newbies, sorry, the
reboot cast. And so that angle

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made sense. But what's tricky is
that when we posted that

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somebody reached out to us, and
it's somebody who has had true

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Roni Intel in the past, right?
So I could only base it on that.

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And they said, listen, Jenna was
set to return, but she's not

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coming back. And they reiterated
which this person has told us

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many times, no OGs. So I added
to the email that we got about

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Roni those notes, I said,
Listen, I got this email, which,

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again, we never know who sends
the emails, but I also have this

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source who has told me real
stuff about casting in the past,

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telling me that it wasn't true.
So after Carol was on watch,

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what happens live, I got an
email that I didn't post, but I

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want to share it. It it says,
just to show you how complicated

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it is when we try to figure out
these puzzles, no need to post

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this. Just a heads up, my
sources mentioned to this

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network, meaning Bravo and
cocktails. Thank you very much

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for calling us a network that
Carol was in talks weeks ago.

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This platform, meaning us,
publicly denied it at the time,

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just at FYI, I did not deny it.
I just showed both sides of the

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Intel and yet, who shows up on
Watch What Happens Live last

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night to test the waters. Just a
reminder to be cautious about

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dismissing information too
quickly. Here's the thing I just

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want to say before Amanda weighs
in, Carol was also there

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promoting the JFK documentary
that she worked on. She lawn.

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Her sub stack. It is very
possible that she was there to

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promote her stuff, and it was an
isolated incident that she was

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on watch. What Happens Live?
Yeah, just saying.

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So I guess back to that other
email that we didn't post like

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guys sometimes we get. So when
people send in stuff to send us

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heat. You can send us your real
email, or you can give us a fake

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email, right? We get a lot of
stuff from Bravo, bravo, bravo

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at Gmail, right? When they do
this, when? And in this case,

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actually, we did get this email,
I think, from something like

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that, Bravo at Gmail, or
whatever, we did not get their

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real email, because the second I
saw that email, I actually

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wanted to follow up, because
obviously, you guys know, we

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always keep it anonymous, but
with some of those folks, we do

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follow back up, keeping them
anonymous and just asking some

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clarification, kind of kind of
questions. I have, first off to

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say I love that this person who
emailed us has their own sources

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who email us. It makes it sound
like they're a very powerful

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person with teams, a team. I
think this. I think things

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change pretty rapidly in this
world. And I think maybe both

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were true, right? Maybe there
was no way. But then Carol had,

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you know, they're like, well,
let's send her on. Watch What

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Happens Live, see what people
say. She had a really great

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showing. Let's, let's, let's
look at it. And I've always,

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always loved Carol. She's always
been this, like, very funny,

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witty, kind of, I wouldn't say
cutting, but boy, season, yeah,

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sharp, yeah, but avoid like, but
almost never. Mean, I think she

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would be a great legacy cast
member to bring in, because,

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first of all, like, she very
much like, fully lives the

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Manhattan lifestyle. You know,
she's not like half in Palm

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Beach and half in the city or
half in the Hamptons, like some

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of the other women she is, she
is a tried and true New Yorker,

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but I think also she would be a
good one, because she's not

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going to come in and feel like
she needs to steal the spotlight

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from the reboot ladies, right,
like a Luanne or Dorinda or so,

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right? I mean, what they don't
want is somebody to outshine,

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which is why Carol, when I heard
it and reflected on it, I was

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like, she actually could be a
viable option.

422
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,660
I also think she could join with
or without Jenna, and it could

423
00:27:32,660 --> 00:27:35,960
make sense as Amanda, as you
said, she lives in Manhattan, on

424
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,380
a personal level, I think she's
made up with Andy Bethany is

425
00:27:39,380 --> 00:27:41,800
completely out of the Bravo
picture, which was always the

426
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,700
reason that she wouldn't have
come back. I also think we saw

427
00:27:45,700 --> 00:27:49,060
her on Watch What Happens Live,
speak very fondly of her time as

428
00:27:49,060 --> 00:27:53,020
a housewife. I think she's had
enough space from it. And with

429
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:57,940
Bethany not being there, she was
really waxing poetic about

430
00:27:57,940 --> 00:28:01,020
seeing Dorinda and Luanne and
Ramona, and saying how she

431
00:28:01,020 --> 00:28:03,660
wished they were cameras,
because it was just they were

432
00:28:03,660 --> 00:28:07,800
just themselves. I do think a
world. I was so surprised. Yeah,

433
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,040
I know me did argue. I was so
surprised to see her speak so

434
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:15,120
positively about her past
experience and then about

435
00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:18,360
running into those women. Sorry
to interject. The reality is

436
00:28:18,360 --> 00:28:20,660
this, and this is something
important, and it can't be

437
00:28:20,660 --> 00:28:25,220
overlooked. And all of us as
humans have had this experience

438
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:30,080
in our lives. Carol came on. She
was a friend of Andy's. She came

439
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,980
on. She was beloved by the
network. She was beloved by

440
00:28:33,980 --> 00:28:38,960
Andy. The situation went down
with Bethany, and she felt like

441
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,740
and I don't know the reality. I
just know that she has spoken

442
00:28:41,740 --> 00:28:46,720
about how she felt. She felt
like Andy and Bravo sided with

443
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,560
Bethany, and whether she didn't
come back by her choice, whether

444
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,380
the network didn't pick her up
for the next season, whether it

445
00:28:53,380 --> 00:28:56,980
was a combo of both. There was
bad blood there. Okay, for a

446
00:28:56,980 --> 00:29:01,020
time after that, everything has
gone on with Bethany, you know,

447
00:29:01,020 --> 00:29:03,660
going against the network and
reality television and all of

448
00:29:03,660 --> 00:29:07,620
that. Okay, Carol has made
amends with Andy, who is a

449
00:29:07,620 --> 00:29:13,620
longtime friend of hers. Okay?
So you have that. You have the

450
00:29:13,620 --> 00:29:17,220
nostalgia of outside of Bethany.
She mostly enjoyed it. It was

451
00:29:17,220 --> 00:29:21,620
good for her. She I can just see
her wanting to do it again, and

452
00:29:21,620 --> 00:29:26,420
maybe in a part time capacity.
So I think that you have a very

453
00:29:26,420 --> 00:29:29,720
good point things change very
quickly. I think that when they

454
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,720
were casting, and especially
this go round, they were

455
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:37,100
maintaining that no OGS, this
has to be a reboot. And I think

456
00:29:37,220 --> 00:29:40,900
that somebody in there, be it
Andy, be it the network, be it,

457
00:29:40,900 --> 00:29:45,040
both said to themselves, let's
pop Carolyn. She's not going to

458
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,620
try to steal thunder, but the
audience will love having her

459
00:29:47,620 --> 00:29:52,600
back. So I don't know, because
we have intel from both sides,

460
00:29:52,900 --> 00:29:56,560
but I will say I wouldn't be
shocked if, when they make the

461
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,920
announcement, Carol is in the
mix. Yeah, I.

462
00:30:00,420 --> 00:30:04,920
Day I could see it. You know, we
we often see seeds get planted

463
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:09,000
with Bravo, sometimes years
before they actually turn into

464
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,020
something real. So meanie, and
she's still not back officially,

465
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,860
right? But just think about the
fact like Porsche too. Porsche's

466
00:30:16,860 --> 00:30:20,420
return, we started to see the
seeds get planted. And think

467
00:30:20,420 --> 00:30:25,280
about how Bravo had, like the
real house kids on Watch What

468
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:30,620
Happens Live and on a panel at
bravocon Some time ago, and that

469
00:30:30,620 --> 00:30:37,220
has turned into next gen NYC. So
I could see it. I see it. Okay,

470
00:30:37,220 --> 00:30:41,860
let's move on to the valor
union. Oh, we have to, but it's

471
00:30:41,860 --> 00:30:46,600
like, I know, I know do. Let's
start out with it. We'll start

472
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:51,220
out with a softball. Do we
believe that Jax has been sober

473
00:30:51,220 --> 00:30:55,180
for over 150 days, as he claims?
Well, that's a negative, and we

474
00:30:55,180 --> 00:30:58,600
have red carpet moments of him
that clearly depict him not

475
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:03,840
being sober. What stood out to
me was Jason of the Janet and

476
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,800
Jason, I don't even know what
they are, Team defending Jax.

477
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:12,720
It's so wild to me that he and
Janet are fine attacking Danny,

478
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,740
even to the point where they're
seemingly lying and exaggerating

479
00:31:16,740 --> 00:31:21,260
about Danny's grabbing women.
There's proof of him acting

480
00:31:21,260 --> 00:31:25,280
inappropriately with Jasmine's
fiance as well. It's been

481
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,580
discussed. He's apologized.
Nobody wants to forgive him.

482
00:31:28,580 --> 00:31:32,660
He's terrible, I mean, and this
is he's attacking Danny moments

483
00:31:32,660 --> 00:31:36,680
after, he's defending Jax, after
hearing about physical assault,

484
00:31:36,860 --> 00:31:39,740
yeah, that Jax committed against
Brittany, who's, by the way,

485
00:31:39,740 --> 00:31:44,020
Jason and Janet's close friend.
I don't understand the angle,

486
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:48,700
but I just know that Janet and
Jason are sticking to a script

487
00:31:49,060 --> 00:31:54,940
that is making like the audience
revolt. So I mean, let me just

488
00:31:54,940 --> 00:31:57,820
say this straight up, Jason
becomes more and more trash to

489
00:31:57,820 --> 00:32:01,860
me every time he opens his mouth
to see him say, well, Jax is

490
00:32:01,860 --> 00:32:06,780
taking accountability, after we
hear this horrific recounting of

491
00:32:06,780 --> 00:32:12,180
what happened with Jax and
Brittany and then almost in the

492
00:32:12,180 --> 00:32:17,880
same breath, he's calling out
Danny for for grabbing women, I

493
00:32:18,060 --> 00:32:23,780
the only thing I can think of is
that when they filmed the

494
00:32:23,780 --> 00:32:28,580
reunion, which was in I believe
may, they had no idea that Jax

495
00:32:28,580 --> 00:32:33,560
was actually going to quit, and
they were right. Well, you mean,

496
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,700
Jax would get fired? Yes, Jax
was gonna get fired. Yeah, no,

497
00:32:37,700 --> 00:32:40,720
they totally thought he'd be
back. And maybe it's a pure fear

498
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,300
of him. Maybe they're
legitimately scared for their

499
00:32:43,300 --> 00:32:47,020
own physical safety, whereas
Danny poses no threat because no

500
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:54,700
scared of Jax. No, I think they
just, I think they bet wrong. I

501
00:32:54,700 --> 00:32:57,880
think they bet that this was,
you know, Jax, this show.

502
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,600
There's no way they're gonna,
there's no way he's not gonna be

503
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:07,380
on it. And I think now they're
like, Oh crap, because we tried

504
00:33:07,380 --> 00:33:14,100
to hitch our wagon to Jack says,
which is, again, so wild, given

505
00:33:14,100 --> 00:33:20,360
that Janet and Brittany seem to
be such close allies like I, I

506
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:25,400
can't help but wonder if there
was a, if there, if what Jason

507
00:33:25,580 --> 00:33:29,840
was saying has now caused issues
with them, with Brittany as

508
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,860
well, right to be like he's
taking accountability, and to be

509
00:33:33,860 --> 00:33:37,640
standing up for him, like no,
like there is no, there is no

510
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:44,140
standing up for that. I couldn't
agree more. Yeah, so. And back

511
00:33:44,140 --> 00:33:48,940
to the whole Danny stuff, like
they should know better than to

512
00:33:48,940 --> 00:33:52,420
bring up new things that we
haven't heard about, which is

513
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:57,220
that apparently Danny has been
grabbing these women more since

514
00:33:57,220 --> 00:34:00,540
even Brit babe was like, Oh
yeah, I felt uncomfortable, not

515
00:34:00,540 --> 00:34:03,000
that you touched me, but you
were being flirty with me. It's

516
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,240
like they all were conspiring
against Danny and Nia, because

517
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:10,680
let's not forget the moment
where Brittany was drunk on the

518
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,500
trip and was they were at
dinner, and Danny was sleeping,

519
00:34:13,500 --> 00:34:15,840
and Brittany, like, lashed out
and was like, she doesn't have

520
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,000
to show her real life, and I
have to show everything. There's

521
00:34:18,060 --> 00:34:20,360
they're all jealous of Danny and
Nia, and they want them to be

522
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:25,880
the bad guys? Yeah, I agree. I
just yeah, the digging in of the

523
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,360
heels with no, like, if you're
gonna bring something new up at

524
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,660
the receipt at the reunion,
you've gotta have receipts. And

525
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:37,520
they didn't, and it just made
them look worse. And I thought

526
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,160
before, and I'll say it again,
and I know that Danny and Nia

527
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,940
likely need the check. They have
four kids and a five bedroom

528
00:34:42,940 --> 00:34:47,260
house in Clarita Santa. Clarita
Santa Clarita, they should not

529
00:34:47,260 --> 00:34:50,980
come back to the show. Nobody
there has their back period.

530
00:34:50,980 --> 00:34:55,840
Dot. And if they do, they do it
at, well, Chris Carol, Luke

531
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,920
does. Kristen does. Luke does,
but I don't.

532
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:05,400
No, yeah, no, I agree. It does.
It does concern you, as far as I

533
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,820
think, I think that show, any
reality TV, we know, is hard on

534
00:35:08,820 --> 00:35:14,160
marriages. So speaking about
marriages, we heard more from

535
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:19,260
Jesse and Michelle. So it seems
like they're co parenting, okay,

536
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:24,380
but it seems like there's still
a lot of conflict there. And

537
00:35:24,380 --> 00:35:29,180
we've also been hearing some
more details about their kind of

538
00:35:29,180 --> 00:35:32,540
the end of their marriage and
their love lives. There's so

539
00:35:32,540 --> 00:35:37,280
much anger there. We hear a lot
about how they make the other

540
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:41,380
look. There seems to be a lot of
concern both of them about their

541
00:35:41,380 --> 00:35:44,260
public image and what the
audience thinks of them and

542
00:35:44,260 --> 00:35:49,480
their co parenting and their
partners. It's really sad, and

543
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:53,260
now Aaron dumped Michelle, so
that adds a whole new layer.

544
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:59,080
Honestly, I think that it
probably would have been

545
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,520
healthier for them to split and
each separately take time for

546
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,680
themselves. I think they kind of
both rushed into new

547
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:11,100
relationships and like, I don't
envy Aaron or Lacey Jesse's

548
00:36:11,100 --> 00:36:15,240
girlfriend, like it just seems
like I feel this way about Lisa

549
00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:19,260
Hoxne when she got together with
Jody, like they're not. There

550
00:36:19,260 --> 00:36:22,760
are many situations where
marriages end or relationships

551
00:36:22,820 --> 00:36:26,720
end and one of the parties has
really moved on, right, right?

552
00:36:26,720 --> 00:36:29,360
It took a long time to end it.
There were a variety of issues

553
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,600
why they kept it going longer,
but there they end it. And

554
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,540
usually it's not both. Usually
it's one person and that one

555
00:36:35,540 --> 00:36:38,780
person is settled and can move
on and fine. In this case,

556
00:36:38,780 --> 00:36:41,740
neither of them, Michelle
doesn't seem even though she

557
00:36:41,740 --> 00:36:47,560
asked for the divorce, she's got
a lot of stuff too. Yeah, I

558
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:54,700
think that she during the
reunion was knowing that henna

559
00:36:54,700 --> 00:37:00,960
knew that the relationship with
Aaron was on the rocks, and

560
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:05,040
seemed just like a little bit
nervous about answering

561
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,500
questions about that kind of
stuff. I don't know if you saw

562
00:37:07,500 --> 00:37:12,060
that too. Yes. Well, she went
into it she wasn't, whereas

563
00:37:12,060 --> 00:37:16,800
during season, yes, in season
and in confessionals, she was

564
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,920
very much praising Aaron. She
sort of stayed away from the

565
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:24,620
subject of Aaron, which was
notable for sure, we did finally

566
00:37:24,620 --> 00:37:27,680
see them address, because season
one we didn't have a reunion,

567
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,640
and Kristen threw that whole
Michelle has a boyfriend, right?

568
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,700
Michelle's like, I did not have
a boyfriend. Kristen holds firm

569
00:37:34,700 --> 00:37:38,480
and says, Well, you were seeing
someone. And Michelle says it

570
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,980
was a friend who gave me
attention. Interestingly, Jesse

571
00:37:41,980 --> 00:37:45,820
says cheating is the one thing
that he doesn't stand for. And

572
00:37:45,820 --> 00:37:48,160
Michelle goes back at him by
saying, well, that's

573
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,500
interesting, because as soon as
I asked for a divorce, you

574
00:37:50,500 --> 00:37:53,740
started sleeping with a married
woman. We find out it's not his

575
00:37:53,740 --> 00:37:57,040
current girlfriend. It's some ex
girlfriend with the letter A he

576
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,740
said, Oh, she hasn't been
married in 25 years. Again.

577
00:37:59,860 --> 00:38:04,380
Mess, just mess. Yeah,
definitely a mess.

578
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:14,460
Okay, so first of all, do we
believe that the person, do we

579
00:38:14,460 --> 00:38:17,220
believe Jesse or Michelle about
that? Do we believe that the

580
00:38:17,220 --> 00:38:20,660
person that Jesse was seeing was
married? I think it's probably

581
00:38:20,660 --> 00:38:22,940
one of those things where,
legally, she's still married.

582
00:38:23,660 --> 00:38:26,540
Got it. I don't think that he
like broke up a marriage, but

583
00:38:26,540 --> 00:38:31,640
yeah, so I only say that because
he's so adamant that he doesn't

584
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,000
go for cheating. So then if he
has that skeleton in his closet,

585
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,760
it wouldn't really make sense.
And we haven't received any

586
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,780
intel that there was a girl that
was married and he broke up the

587
00:38:40,780 --> 00:38:42,760
marriage, and believe me, we
would have because these Valley

588
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:47,380
people send us everything. So on
to the whole thing with the

589
00:38:47,500 --> 00:38:51,940
conversations that Michelle and
Aaron were having when Michelle

590
00:38:51,940 --> 00:38:57,700
was still married to Jesse, that
she was telling Aaron things

591
00:38:57,700 --> 00:39:01,620
about their marriage, that kind
of stuff. Where do you sit on

592
00:39:01,620 --> 00:39:05,820
this, assuming that Michelle is
telling the truth, that it was

593
00:39:05,820 --> 00:39:11,040
not an emotional affair, but
that she was sharing some things

594
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:15,360
about her marriage? Do you or do
I think it's inappropriate to

595
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:20,400
talk about your marriage with a
man who is clearly romantically

596
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:25,100
interested in you. I think it's
very inappropriate. Do I think

597
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:30,860
that is an emotional affair? I
do not do I think Michelle is

598
00:39:30,860 --> 00:39:33,800
telling the truth. I'm not so
sure. What do you think? Here's

599
00:39:33,860 --> 00:39:38,060
the thing, her and Aaron did
date once her and Jesse split.

600
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:43,180
So clearly there was a romantic
interest there on both sides,

601
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:47,500
right? So for me, it's a moot
point if my husband and I are in

602
00:39:47,500 --> 00:39:51,220
counseling and we're trying to
make our marriage work, which is

603
00:39:51,220 --> 00:39:54,220
what they were saying first
season, what Michelle was

604
00:39:54,220 --> 00:39:59,200
saying, and Jesse and I find out
that my husband is dating a

605
00:39:59,200 --> 00:39:59,920
woman who he.

606
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,640
Confided in while we were
married and working on our

607
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,520
marriage. It doesn't really
matter if they physically

608
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:09,420
cheated or if they consider it
an emotional affair, right?

609
00:40:09,420 --> 00:40:12,000
Clearly, it could have helped
her make the decision to

610
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,120
ultimately leave, which is why
Jesse dislikes the guy so much.

611
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:19,680
Whether they had sex or made out
or whatever, they obviously were

612
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,060
attracted to each other they
ended up dating after, yeah,

613
00:40:23,060 --> 00:40:26,000
yeah. And I guess I think that's
actually a really good point. It

614
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,540
doesn't even matter, because
inappropriate is inappropriate,

615
00:40:29,540 --> 00:40:33,560
whether it is an emotional
affair or not. And the other

616
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,040
thing is, what Michelle, or what
any of us, need to do is say,

617
00:40:37,460 --> 00:40:42,400
would she be okay if Jesse did
the same to her. So if Jesse was

618
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,160
having that relationship with
his current girlfriend, Lacey,

619
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,860
while they were in therapy and
working on the relationship,

620
00:40:47,860 --> 00:40:50,800
would she be okay with it? And I
would guess the answer would be

621
00:40:50,860 --> 00:40:55,420
no, absolutely. So that's what
it's the same. It's listen in

622
00:40:55,420 --> 00:40:57,820
all your relationships, if you
wouldn't be okay with it, then

623
00:40:57,820 --> 00:40:59,980
your partner wouldn't be okay
with it, then your friend

624
00:40:59,980 --> 00:41:01,920
wouldn't be okay with it, then
your child wouldn't you know

625
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,400
what I mean, like, right? So,
and again, Michelle is not the

626
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,160
only person who was selfish in
the marriage. They were both

627
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:12,420
selfish. They both did things
wrong. Yeah, agreed. So

628
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:16,980
something I think all of us have
wondered at some point watching

629
00:41:16,980 --> 00:41:22,220
this show is how Kristen and
Janet were ever good friends

630
00:41:22,220 --> 00:41:25,640
before the show started? Because
they are butting heads at every

631
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,760
turn now that the cameras are
on, Kristen says this, so I was

632
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,400
glad that whoever asked this
question, I think it was Andy,

633
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,580
because I think we've all been
wondering, but Kristen says that

634
00:41:34,580 --> 00:41:38,300
the Janet she knew prior to
filming is a completely

635
00:41:38,300 --> 00:41:42,520
different person than the Janet
she met when they started

636
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:47,860
filming Season One, because
Janet's a fan, and Janet has

637
00:41:47,860 --> 00:41:50,680
studied the show, and Janet
wants to be successful on the

638
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,100
show, and Janet thinks she knows
better than everybody, including

639
00:41:54,100 --> 00:41:58,600
the viewers. Yeah, Kristen's
100% right. She's spot on. Jason

640
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,340
chiming in to be like, tell me
examples. I was like, Andy, roll

641
00:42:02,340 --> 00:42:05,760
tape everything that your wife
has done on the show. I was

642
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,820
really happy when Jesse chimed
in, because he was very level

643
00:42:08,820 --> 00:42:11,940
headed. It's very funny, by the
way, how Jesse can be level

644
00:42:11,940 --> 00:42:16,620
headed about other people and,
like, totally have no insight on

645
00:42:16,620 --> 00:42:19,980
himself. In any event. He says,
you know, we have a great

646
00:42:19,980 --> 00:42:24,680
relationship. He said, Janet, I
watch you bring up stuff that

647
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,820
doesn't need to be brought up.
And that's the point. It isn't

648
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,060
like although at the reunion, I
do think that she fabricated,

649
00:42:32,060 --> 00:42:34,460
that Danny does it to other
people, and I think she just

650
00:42:34,460 --> 00:42:36,740
threw that out there. I don't
believe that's true. So in this

651
00:42:36,740 --> 00:42:38,780
case, she did fabricate, but
it's the way she takes

652
00:42:38,780 --> 00:42:42,820
information, twists it turns it
brings it up unnecessarily,

653
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:47,740
restart something that they that
has been extinguished. Yeah? And

654
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,260
Jesse said he sees her as
manipulative on the show, and he

655
00:42:50,260 --> 00:42:52,360
says, Listen, I like you guys.
I'm friends with you guys, but

656
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,780
on the show, this is how you
are, yeah, yeah. I think he's

657
00:42:55,780 --> 00:42:58,960
he's speaking the truth. I think
everybody else sees it. So

658
00:42:59,020 --> 00:43:03,960
hopefully, maybe Janet finally
does so before we move on from

659
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,800
the valley, something that we
talked about last week was that

660
00:43:07,860 --> 00:43:12,420
at the end of the show, they
showed the substance abuse

661
00:43:12,420 --> 00:43:15,900
hotline, but they did not
include the domestic abuse

662
00:43:15,900 --> 00:43:21,620
hotline on the or Domestic
Violence Hotline at the end of

663
00:43:21,620 --> 00:43:25,760
the episode. But, you know, we
talked about it. I know there

664
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,840
were other people who talked
about it, and I noticed it a lot

665
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,200
of cocktails notices. One of
them actually brought it up on

666
00:43:33,260 --> 00:43:36,200
Discord, and was like, I wonder
if we have a cocktail or

667
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,860
producer who heard this. But I
think, I think there was enough

668
00:43:39,860 --> 00:43:44,140
Deon feedback that I'm glad that
Bravo is listening, and they

669
00:43:44,140 --> 00:43:49,360
actually acted on that feedback.
Listen, yeah. And the other

670
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,600
thing is, some things are
oversight, and I know it's like

671
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:58,420
upsetting, but I do feel that
Bravo does listen to fans.

672
00:43:58,420 --> 00:44:01,620
Jack's gone, yeah, that's a good
start. Yeah. Let's see if they

673
00:44:01,620 --> 00:44:06,120
listen to you about Janet. Okay,
so Beverly Hills, some

674
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:10,620
interesting Intel came out
again. Cheating seems to be a

675
00:44:10,620 --> 00:44:17,460
theme today, so Teddy
Mellencamp, on a podcast, said

676
00:44:17,460 --> 00:44:22,640
that, and this is a story that
we've never heard that days

677
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,760
before, she first appeared on
Real Housewives of Beverly

678
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:30,740
Hills, so that would have had to
have been 2018 maybe. Does that

679
00:44:30,740 --> 00:44:34,340
sound about right? I think, um,
I don't know. I'm making up that

680
00:44:34,340 --> 00:44:38,000
date. You guys can correct me.
But before she before she even

681
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,440
first appealed on the show, she
found out that her husband, at

682
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,800
the time, Edwin was having an
affair with someone that she

683
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:51,580
knew, and she that Teddy begged
Edwin not to leave her, and that

684
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:56,020
at that point, Teddy did not
believe that Edwin was in love

685
00:44:56,020 --> 00:44:59,920
with her anymore. It was so sad
to hear it. It makes so.

686
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,860
Sense about how edge she was on
Beverly Hills. How could she not

687
00:45:04,860 --> 00:45:08,820
be? And it sounds, based on what
she said, like the mistress

688
00:45:08,820 --> 00:45:12,120
blackmailed her for money, like
a couple days before her first

689
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,060
season. She said it wasn't even
a lot of money, but was

690
00:45:15,060 --> 00:45:17,700
blackmailed. Nonetheless, what
broke my heart was she said she

691
00:45:17,700 --> 00:45:20,840
also feels that her affair with
the horse trainer is why she got

692
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:25,640
cancer. I have to say something
that so many of you guys have

693
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,400
shared with me, whether you're
working the medical field, a

694
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:32,300
physician, a nurse, nurse
practitioner, or have had family

695
00:45:32,300 --> 00:45:36,140
members who have had brain
tumors and this sort of cancer,

696
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:40,300
what a lot of people Amanda have
told me is that they have people

697
00:45:40,300 --> 00:45:43,360
in their lives, or they've had
patients who have this period

698
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,240
where they act erratically and
make decisions that are just

699
00:45:46,240 --> 00:45:49,180
very out of character, and then
they get diagnosed with this. So

700
00:45:49,180 --> 00:45:53,080
it is actually part of her
disease. Really is what? Because

701
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:58,480
tumors can have a big effect on
impulsivity, right? It obviously

702
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:02,820
depends on where in the brain,
but on impulsivity, which would

703
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:08,100
you know, would very much affect
her decision making ability when

704
00:46:08,100 --> 00:46:13,620
it comes to her marriage. So and
maybe, maybe I'm a bitch, but I,

705
00:46:14,100 --> 00:46:16,200
first of all, I believe she had
the cancer when she made the

706
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,200
decision just based on the
timing that we know. Yeah, but

707
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,680
outside of that, like Edwin
cheated on her, and if she

708
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,680
really feels like she had to beg
him to stay and he never loved

709
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,140
her after, well, then fuck him
if she ended up cheating on him

710
00:46:27,140 --> 00:46:30,740
too, I don't know. Yeah. I mean,
an eye for an eye, Amanda An eye

711
00:46:30,740 --> 00:46:35,180
for an eye. I am, yeah, I am not
a big I don't, I don't believe

712
00:46:35,240 --> 00:46:37,700
two wrongs make a right. And I'm
not saying that. You're saying

713
00:46:37,700 --> 00:46:40,180
that. I'm saying, I know you're
what you're saying is he did it

714
00:46:40,180 --> 00:46:44,260
at first, so there's not really
any room for him to stand on

715
00:46:44,260 --> 00:46:49,480
very high moral ground, which I
agree with. But I also think

716
00:46:49,540 --> 00:46:53,560
that you're exactly right. I
think she probably did have the

717
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,500
cancer and that that it did
affect her decision making,

718
00:46:56,500 --> 00:46:59,560
because it just, you know, it
just doesn't seem like something

719
00:46:59,620 --> 00:47:04,740
that she that she would do, you
know, like she seems pretty she

720
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,580
also is very dependent on Edwin,
because, if you'll, I don't know

721
00:47:08,580 --> 00:47:12,180
if you'll remember this, but she
didn't really drive, and so she

722
00:47:12,180 --> 00:47:16,560
was really dependent on Edwin,
and, like their nanny,

723
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,980
essentially, to help get the
kids around and stuff too. I

724
00:47:19,980 --> 00:47:24,560
just, I think, from a rational
standpoint, had Teddy been in a

725
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,020
more rational I don't think she
would have made that decision.

726
00:47:27,020 --> 00:47:31,760
So I completely, I completely
agree I had also always wondered

727
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:35,660
if he had cheated, just based on
her behavior some of the

728
00:47:35,660 --> 00:47:40,060
comments she's made on her pod
over the years as well. So I

729
00:47:40,060 --> 00:47:43,240
completely agree that hearing
confirmation of all that

730
00:47:43,240 --> 00:47:48,280
definitely makes things make a
lot more sense. Yeah, and I also

731
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:53,920
makes me wonder if maybe that's
why she and Kyle got such an

732
00:47:53,920 --> 00:48:01,200
intense bond so quickly that she
confided in Kyle, and maybe Kyle

733
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:08,100
had, you know, some confessions
of her own well, or that cheated

734
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:12,540
on it as well come up. Yeah,
that's long rumored. That would

735
00:48:12,540 --> 00:48:13,440
make sense to me.

736
00:48:18,060 --> 00:48:24,080
So in other Beverly Hills news
Denise Richards, who we know is

737
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,500
going through. I think every day
it just seems like it's getting

738
00:48:27,500 --> 00:48:33,140
worse. Divorce was spotted
filming with Sutton and Erica at

739
00:48:33,140 --> 00:48:36,800
a restaurant. So this was when
Kyle dorit and Rachel Zoe were

740
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,440
away in the Hamptons. They were
actually in Montauk, which, by

741
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,580
the way, Austin Crowell was at
the same club as them. At the

742
00:48:42,580 --> 00:48:46,840
same time, surf Lodge, where
Danielle's awful boyfriend,

743
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,960
Robert, the chef, works. So
there's a lot of Bravo people

744
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,180
there. They were not hanging
out. We I had a lot of

745
00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:55,540
cocktails. Were there, you know,
we have our Hampton Montauk crew

746
00:48:55,540 --> 00:48:59,140
that reports back. Yeah, just a
funny side note, Austin was

747
00:48:59,140 --> 00:49:01,800
hanging out with Robert and
actually tags him in a story.

748
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,320
And was like, thanks. My dude
probably gave him, like, free

749
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,840
chicken fingers, yeah. And
Robert was probably like, make

750
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:10,320
sure you tag me, because he
doesn't care about it, yet still

751
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,920
follows me in any he doesn't
like to be a public person. He

752
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,440
sure does. You know, for
somebody who doesn't like to be

753
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:20,460
a public person, you know you
can turn your settings on

754
00:49:20,460 --> 00:49:25,340
Instagram so that people can't
tag you unless you approve it,

755
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:30,680
but can also unfollow bloggers
that you DM and yell at. Another

756
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:34,400
side note, Danielle has been
posting from Montauk, and she's

757
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,280
definitely with a guy she was in
Ireland. Danielle from summer

758
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,040
house. She looks great. You
know, we had heard that she was

759
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,180
a little off the rails with her
drinking and stuff, going back

760
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,780
to when she was on the show and,
like, right after her breakup,

761
00:49:46,780 --> 00:49:50,380
she has, like, posted about
she's living healthier. She's

762
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,260
eating healthier. She's into
exercising. It appears to me,

763
00:49:53,260 --> 00:49:55,660
I'm not saying she quit
drinking, but appears to me that

764
00:49:55,660 --> 00:49:59,020
she's on a much better track,
which I'm happy to see. She's

765
00:49:59,020 --> 00:49:59,920
got some guy she doesn't.

766
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,640
Posted him, but she's clearly
like posting him, but not

767
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,100
showing his face like his leg.
Is this? Is that good for her?

768
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,400
Love to see it okay? So Kyle
dorit and Rachel Zoe are often

769
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:12,300
montaloc okay with Preston
Crowell. Meantime, we have

770
00:50:12,300 --> 00:50:17,220
Sutton and Erica filming with
Denise, because Denise is having

771
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,160
the divorce from hell. It's a
little bit more complicated than

772
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:24,080
that, and we have some intel. So
what I'm hearing is, you know,

773
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:28,280
Rachel signed on to elevate the
show, fashion travel, a list

774
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:34,760
friends. Rachel gave the network
her divorce on camera. Okay, she

775
00:50:34,820 --> 00:50:38,420
was all eyes were on her. We
heard she's the star of the

776
00:50:38,420 --> 00:50:43,120
season in comes to nice having
the police call with TMZ cameras

777
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,840
there causing this huge scandal.
Of course, production is like

778
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,500
Messy Boots. Cameras up, right?
There's a reason why Denise only

779
00:50:50,500 --> 00:50:53,620
filmed with Sutton and Erica.
Okay, this is what I'm told.

780
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:57,280
While some on the cast feel for
Denise and also know it'll make

781
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,960
a good show, others are pissed
that she's making the most of

782
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:05,160
her situation, cameras there as
she tries to get into the house.

783
00:51:05,340 --> 00:51:08,820
Yeah, come on, that's planned.
Cameras do not sit outside

784
00:51:08,820 --> 00:51:12,540
Denise's rental home that
Aaron's parents live in. Okay?

785
00:51:13,260 --> 00:51:17,820
So perhaps Rachel feels that
it's changing the elevated tone

786
00:51:17,820 --> 00:51:22,520
of the season. Perhaps she feels
overshadowed, perhaps she

787
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,160
doesn't want to be associated
with what she feels is kind of

788
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:29,600
like a trashy or vibe. In any
event, there's a reason why

789
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:34,340
Denise only filmed with Sutton
and Erica. Thoughts. Amanda,

790
00:51:34,700 --> 00:51:40,780
okay, so there is so much going
on. Let me first say that I am

791
00:51:40,780 --> 00:51:45,460
very curious to better
understand like, why Rachel Zoe

792
00:51:45,460 --> 00:51:49,420
and Roger, why they got
divorced. So I really I want to

793
00:51:49,420 --> 00:51:52,180
see that. I want to understand
that more, because they really

794
00:51:52,180 --> 00:51:58,420
did seem like such a great pair
for so long. But with Denise,

795
00:51:58,720 --> 00:52:05,820
she is also saying that Aaron
had one of her dogs put down. I

796
00:52:05,820 --> 00:52:09,540
saw, and, I mean, that is, and
that he stole a bunch of her

797
00:52:09,540 --> 00:52:13,680
items. But the dog, I let me
list the words, it's awful, it's

798
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:18,480
terrible, it's evil, it's
despicable, like I I can keep

799
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:23,300
going, because even in a
situation, if the dog was truly,

800
00:52:23,300 --> 00:52:26,900
really sick, Denise should have
been there, you know, like that

801
00:52:26,900 --> 00:52:30,980
is, it turns my stomach. And if
he can do stuff like that and

802
00:52:30,980 --> 00:52:37,160
not, you know, so in a case like
hers, where there is a

803
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:41,860
protection order, a restraining
order in place if she does want

804
00:52:41,860 --> 00:52:49,720
to go to, you know, the house or
something, where he could be, I

805
00:52:49,720 --> 00:52:53,140
think you do have to call the
police to have them be there to

806
00:52:53,140 --> 00:52:56,140
make sure that nobody is
violating the protection order,

807
00:52:56,500 --> 00:53:00,840
right? And so, you know, I
think, I don't think she really

808
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:05,100
had a choice about the police,
but I do think she had a choice

809
00:53:05,100 --> 00:53:10,260
about the cameras. I think that
she's always been pretty good at

810
00:53:10,260 --> 00:53:15,300
keeping the media and public
opinion on her side. So I do

811
00:53:15,300 --> 00:53:19,740
think that was probably a
strategic move on Denise's part,

812
00:53:19,740 --> 00:53:24,560
because I think she has so much
more to lose than he does, and

813
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,680
he's really putting out whatever
the heck he wants, you know,

814
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:31,640
saying all these things about
her too, 100% Listen, I want to

815
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:35,540
see Denise's messy divorce. I
absolutely feel for her. I think

816
00:53:35,540 --> 00:53:38,840
this guy is a grifter. I think
she was duped by him. I think

817
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,440
she then got involved in
supporting his family, funding

818
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,320
his life, funding his family's
life, and it just got out of

819
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:49,120
hand. She wasn't asked back to
Beverly Hills, she certainly was

820
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,880
hiding something. We have that
scene where he squeezed her hand

821
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:55,000
that was disturbing. Then she
was off the show. Then she did

822
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,700
that spin off show, because she
needed the check. With all that

823
00:53:57,700 --> 00:54:01,680
said, I can see how Rachel who
filed on camera feels like I

824
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:05,640
didn't know that she filed on
camera. Well, they were filming

825
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,940
when it when the official filing
happened, right? So obviously

826
00:54:08,940 --> 00:54:11,940
she's discussing it, but here's
where I think there's a little

827
00:54:11,940 --> 00:54:14,160
bit of an issue for Rachel.
Yeah, maybe she doesn't like

828
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,440
that. It's getting a little
trashy with the TMZ and the

829
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,200
police involvement that could
be. But I think that it's that

830
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,940
she gave the filing on camera.
But something tells me it's

831
00:54:22,940 --> 00:54:26,360
Rachel's first season. Something
tells me she's not giving us all

832
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:30,740
the details. So we're going to
see all these intricate details

833
00:54:30,740 --> 00:54:33,680
of Aaron and Denise's divorce,
and Rachel's just going to be

834
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,500
like, Yeah, you know, after 20
years, we had irreconcilable

835
00:54:36,500 --> 00:54:40,480
differences, and here's my
filing on camera. I mean, I'm

836
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:45,100
not a psychic, but that's what
I'm guessing. But hey, listen,

837
00:54:45,100 --> 00:54:47,560
maybe this will make Rachel give
us more. Maybe she's gonna be

838
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,020
like, Fuck Denise Richard. She's
not gonna overshadow me. I'm

839
00:54:50,020 --> 00:54:53,140
gonna tell them that. You know,
Raj has been fucking my

840
00:54:53,140 --> 00:54:57,460
assistant. I don't know, geez.
So I was just thinking, we've

841
00:54:57,460 --> 00:54:59,920
got Rachel going through
divorce. We've got.

842
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,840
To read, going through a
divorce. We have Kyle going

843
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:10,320
through whatever you separation,
possible divorce. We have Erica,

844
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:15,000
who can't get divorced from Tom,
the real divorced Housewives of

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Beverly

846
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Hills. Who am I forgetting? Is
anyone married on the show,

847
00:55:20,460 --> 00:55:24,200
gotten in a relationship, but
not married. Wait, who's in a

848
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relationship? Buzz, oh, I always
suppose, oh, Bose, yeah. Bose,

849
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Bose, that's it. Whoo, it'll be
interesting. Kathy. Kathy's

850
00:55:33,500 --> 00:55:37,100
married. Kathy's married.
Jennifer tilly's got the fiance,

851
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boyfriend, whatever he is, but
they're not, yeah, so I don't

852
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know. Do you think Denise is
angling to get back on the show,

853
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or do you think she is doing
this as a way to drum up

854
00:55:49,300 --> 00:55:53,200
interest to get a season two of
her show? I think she needs a

855
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,140
check. I think she's supporting
a lot of people. She's got

856
00:55:56,140 --> 00:55:59,440
lawyers fees coming. Yeah, I
think she's doing it for a

857
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,100
check. If it works out full
time. It works out if they renew

858
00:56:02,100 --> 00:56:04,320
her spin off, they renew her
spin off, but she definitely

859
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wants to be in the public eye.
Otherwise she wouldn't have she

860
00:56:06,540 --> 00:56:10,380
wasn't under contract. She
didn't have to go film. So, you

861
00:56:10,380 --> 00:56:12,600
know, she signed on for the
check, and I guess it'll lead

862
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where it'll lead. What does she
got to lose? It's public anyway.

863
00:56:15,240 --> 00:56:18,420
Yeah, I mean, I let's just hope
there was a prenup, but I'm

864
00:56:18,420 --> 00:56:21,800
guessing, I'm betting there
wasn't, Oh, I'm sure there

865
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:26,600
wasn't. Yeah. All right, we love
you guys. Cocktail pod. We're

866
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about to record. I'm gonna go
down a a real rabbit hole, so

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buckle up. Can't wait. We love
you guys. Till next time bye.

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