#28 | A Conversation on Plasma Consciousness with Dana Kippel

<v Speaker 1>Hello, everybody, Welcome to another episode of Hard Truths. Today,
<v Speaker 1>my guest Dana Kipple. She is the author of a
<v Speaker 1>New Force, a book about plasma consciousness and the new
<v Speaker 1>human potential. She's a polymath, sci fi filmmaker, author, and
<v Speaker 1>she's interested in plasma intelligence. She's a futurist and she's
<v Speaker 1>an optimist as well. Dana, thank you very much for
<v Speaker 1>joining my podcast. How are you doing today?
<v Speaker 2>I'm good.
<v Speaker 1>How are you doing great? So did I get the
<v Speaker 1>introduction right there? Well, how would you explain your research and.
<v Speaker 3>What you do? Okay?
<v Speaker 2>I would say that it is on the frontier and
<v Speaker 2>the edge of what people are doing in science and spirituality.
<v Speaker 2>So I call plasma like the perfect bridge of science
<v Speaker 2>and spirituality. My theory is basically, yes, in science there
<v Speaker 2>is a plasma. It is the for state of matter
<v Speaker 2>and ionized gas. And my theory is that there is
<v Speaker 2>a finer plasma that is multi dimensional. It is sentient,
<v Speaker 2>is the living fabric of reality, and it is finer
<v Speaker 2>than the plasma we can now prove or observe in science.
<v Speaker 2>It creates the observable, but it is somewhere between the
<v Speaker 2>unobservable and observable. So I think one of my life
<v Speaker 2>challenges will be, Okay, how do we observe or prove
<v Speaker 2>this and Dewey or is it more about the relationship
<v Speaker 2>with it? So that's kind of it in a nutshell.
<v Speaker 1>And what led you to even like kind of look
<v Speaker 1>into this. I mean, I'm very interested in how people
<v Speaker 1>get involved in plasma and is they like read some
<v Speaker 1>of the people that I always get people mentioned to me,
<v Speaker 1>like you, Joseph Ferrell or Robert Temple, that kind of stuff.
<v Speaker 3>How do you get involved?
<v Speaker 2>Crazy story? So Robert Temple is a great mentor of mine.
<v Speaker 2>I love him and his wife Olivia. He's like my
<v Speaker 2>father and then she's like my mother of plasma. But
<v Speaker 2>I actually found them afterwards. So I was meditating about
<v Speaker 2>five years ago before a new science of heaven came
<v Speaker 2>out and all this is really hard to explain. I
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't believe me, but this is what happened. It was
<v Speaker 2>like my third time meditating, and all of a sudden,
<v Speaker 2>it's like a nosis. I just knew. I was like,
<v Speaker 2>plasma is the vehicle for consciousness. It is intelligent. It
<v Speaker 2>is something you know, beyond what they're telling us in
<v Speaker 2>science that has there's a natural suppression to it, Like
<v Speaker 2>I just knew all of it has to do with
<v Speaker 2>like Mary Magdalene and Anana and the Goddess, but also
<v Speaker 2>with math and science, and I just knew all these things.
<v Speaker 2>I can't explain how And then you know, it took
<v Speaker 2>five years to kind of digest and create into a book.
<v Speaker 2>It took only a year to write it, but it
<v Speaker 2>was just so much in here. And then I was
<v Speaker 2>almost like divinely letter. I know this sounds crazy, but
<v Speaker 2>like divinely Letter guided to what I needed to research
<v Speaker 2>to kind of put it in like human words. So
<v Speaker 2>I just found things, and I found that I googled,
<v Speaker 2>because I never had studied plasma in my life. I
<v Speaker 2>googled plasma and intelligent and I saw that Robert Temple
<v Speaker 2>was coming out with a book the next year called
<v Speaker 2>a New Science Aha it. So as soon as that
<v Speaker 2>came out, I read it, and that confirmed that I
<v Speaker 2>wasn't crazy, because I was like, he's saying the same things.
<v Speaker 2>I think, Yeah, you know.
<v Speaker 1>I had a similar experience where I remember my first
<v Speaker 1>conversation with Navy engineer Savator Piis. He brought up that
<v Speaker 1>we were talking about gravity manipulation, that's already pretty far
<v Speaker 1>out there.
<v Speaker 3>And next thing I know, he's bringing up like have you.
<v Speaker 1>Read Robert Temple and like this idea that plasma could
<v Speaker 1>be conscious.
<v Speaker 3>And I remember at the time, this was two years ago.
<v Speaker 1>Me thinking Okay, this guy is like out there, this
<v Speaker 1>is too much, et cetera. And now I look back
<v Speaker 1>and I go, oh, no, if anything, it's probably even
<v Speaker 1>more than that.
<v Speaker 2>You know.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, for me, the thing that made me start taking
<v Speaker 1>very seriously was understanding that plasma produces its own electromagnetic
<v Speaker 1>fields and therefore can be self stabilized and can make
<v Speaker 1>its own shapes like smokering can make it. Because then
<v Speaker 1>it opens the door to this idea that you know,
<v Speaker 1>plasma is maybe more than what we thought it was.
<v Speaker 3>So who were your what what.
<v Speaker 1>Do you think is your most compelling research or you know,
<v Speaker 1>for people that are interested in plasma, who would you
<v Speaker 1>tell them to check out or read?
<v Speaker 2>Sure? Well, I know with your audience, I want to
<v Speaker 2>say saying really quick, just to bridge it from science
<v Speaker 2>to metaphysics, because I do jump a little bit around
<v Speaker 2>with you with you mentioning electromagnetism, so electro magnetic field
<v Speaker 2>shape plasma and science even on larger levels, which some
<v Speaker 2>people in science would not say is true. But if
<v Speaker 2>you look at the plasma universe model by Hannas Alfin,
<v Speaker 2>you would find that it can do that and it
<v Speaker 2>can check out scientifically. The point I'm trying to make
<v Speaker 2>is who has the largest elect What is the largest
<v Speaker 2>electromagnetic field of the human It is our heart. So
<v Speaker 2>when we are connected with our heart energy, one would
<v Speaker 2>maybe posit that you could harmonize with or you know,
<v Speaker 2>create reality by molding this plasma with your consciousness. So
<v Speaker 2>it's just some thing to think about, which is why
<v Speaker 2>when we're in our hearts we can create reality a
<v Speaker 2>lot easier than maybe when we're decoherent and angry and
<v Speaker 2>not in our hearts. So that's kind of a lot
<v Speaker 2>of my research and I connect those things. And two,
<v Speaker 2>if you're interested in plasma, where would I start? I
<v Speaker 2>would actually read a lot of Russian textbooks on plasma physics,
<v Speaker 2>and in Israel in India because they actually had the
<v Speaker 2>leading research that is not as suppressed as here. I
<v Speaker 2>would read obviously my book A New Force, Plasma Consciousness
<v Speaker 2>and the Muman Potential. I would read Eileen Mcusic's book
<v Speaker 2>Tuning the human biofield. It talks about bioplasma and how
<v Speaker 2>it kind of connects with our emotions and trauma. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>I have so many books. A New Science of Heaven
<v Speaker 2>by Robert Temple, I would read up on time crystals
<v Speaker 2>and how mushrooms communicate, because how my celium communicate and
<v Speaker 2>how viruses communicate and grow are actually the same as
<v Speaker 2>how plasma communicates. I'm looking at my library, I mean,
<v Speaker 2>there's so many books. Let me just grab one or
<v Speaker 2>two because it's right here.
<v Speaker 4>So I have like a special session session that is
<v Speaker 4>all what I've read about plasma.
<v Speaker 2>So I'm just going to bring it to you really
<v Speaker 2>quick and be crazy, but it'll be worth it because
<v Speaker 2>this will help everyone because this is what I read. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>just a feel. So this is the Russian book Plasma
<v Speaker 2>the Four State of Matter by D. A. Frank Kevin Netski,
<v Speaker 2>and it kind of goes it explains it. It's like
<v Speaker 2>a you know, ultra collegiate book, but it explains it
<v Speaker 2>the way anyone can understand just the complexity of plasma
<v Speaker 2>and science. And then I'm just looking for the ones
<v Speaker 2>that this book on soft matter is great because in
<v Speaker 2>the future we're actually going to be working more with
<v Speaker 2>systems theory and plasma and organic material and soft matter
<v Speaker 2>and technology. So that's good to learn about. And then
<v Speaker 2>this is kind of weird. This is a channeled book.
<v Speaker 2>It is the wooiest book I have. It's called Afterlife
<v Speaker 2>Comments on paraphysical concepts, the New Physics, and this woman
<v Speaker 2>supposedly channels Nicola Tesla, but it still is super interesting.
<v Speaker 3>I can the golden ratio there on the cover of Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>And then like you know, Nicola Tesla purple energy places.
<v Speaker 2>Nicoloa Tesla worked with plasma. He called it radiant matter.
<v Speaker 2>And then there's also radiant energy, which is what I
<v Speaker 2>believe is your plasma and consciousness working together. And he
<v Speaker 2>spoke about something more magical than radiant matter, which was
<v Speaker 2>what he was doing with radiant energy right before he died.
<v Speaker 3>And then let's I want to broach on a couple
<v Speaker 3>of these topics.
<v Speaker 1>He brought you around a lot of physics topics that
<v Speaker 1>I've talked about and this, Yeah, a lot first I
<v Speaker 1>think would be well, maybe radiant energy matter. So I'm
<v Speaker 1>guessing that you think that there is a connection between
<v Speaker 1>this plasma cosmology, plasma universe understanding of Nikola Tesla, you
<v Speaker 1>want to elaborate on that.
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, So when they first discovered plasma in like
<v Speaker 2>eighteen seventy eight, Sir William Crooks named it radiant matter.
<v Speaker 2>And then all of a sudden, this is like, this
<v Speaker 2>is all in my book in chapter two. It connects
<v Speaker 2>ether and plasma together all of a sudden, and then
<v Speaker 2>they call it. They come up with this thing called
<v Speaker 2>the lou and Sir William Crooks talked about how this
<v Speaker 2>radiant matter had paranormal properties. He addressed the British Royal
<v Speaker 2>Society about that and X rays and how there was
<v Speaker 2>something beyond science he couldn't explain that scientists were scared of,
<v Speaker 2>and he told them, please research this. There's something here.
<v Speaker 2>And then all of a sudden they come up with
<v Speaker 2>luminiferous ether, and then how plasma is this? But then
<v Speaker 2>they disprove it with the Michelson Morley experiment, which they
<v Speaker 2>were testing the static ether, and all of us know
<v Speaker 2>that ether is not static, so the test was wrong
<v Speaker 2>and defunct and stupid anyway, and I go into it
<v Speaker 2>in my book, and then all of a sudden we
<v Speaker 2>forget all about this, and then Tesla's working with radiant matter. Meanwhile,
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen twenty eight, Irving langmir the for state of
<v Speaker 2>matter plasma after blood plasma, because it has the same
<v Speaker 2>exact behaviors. And now we have after the FBI has
<v Speaker 2>created we have plasma, but all of its mystical properties
<v Speaker 2>were strict, and now we just have this plasma that
<v Speaker 2>no one learns about in school, and it goes underground
<v Speaker 2>and is tested in the military for like the last
<v Speaker 2>hundred years, but it makes up ninety nine point nine
<v Speaker 2>percent of visible matter. Yet we do not learn about
<v Speaker 2>it in school. Why we learned about particles which may
<v Speaker 2>or may not even exist, because really everything's made up
<v Speaker 2>of fields and plasma. So anyway, that's kind of the
<v Speaker 2>weird tale of the natural suppression of plasma, and it
<v Speaker 2>actually has some fascinating links with the divine feminine being
<v Speaker 2>suppressed and magic and weird stuff.
<v Speaker 1>I've got a lot of questions and all of those things.
<v Speaker 1>So one thing I want to bring up though, radiant
<v Speaker 1>matter radiant energy. Yeah, a lot of people look back
<v Speaker 1>at that and they think, oh, this was just you know,
<v Speaker 1>nineteen hundreds mumbo jumbo someone's making up. But really what
<v Speaker 1>was going on is we just didn't have the terminology
<v Speaker 1>from the physics and scientific perspective to describe what.
<v Speaker 3>The effector we're seeing. But I do think it's interesting
<v Speaker 3>that was connected to X rays.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, X rays in that in that spectrum are one
<v Speaker 1>of the things that get released when you have like
<v Speaker 1>a fusion reaction go on.
<v Speaker 3>So when we're dealing with plasma, X rays are really common. Actually.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, idea of like radiant energy like this energy that
<v Speaker 1>comes from nowhere, ye be absurd, but it got proven
<v Speaker 1>in twenty eleven with the dynamic Casimir effect that we
<v Speaker 1>can actually make light appear from nothingness, from just empty space.
<v Speaker 3>So that kind of if that what if that is
<v Speaker 3>radiant energy?
<v Speaker 1>And that was just Nikola Tesla or someone else trying
<v Speaker 1>to explain you know, what it is.
<v Speaker 3>Do you think that makes sense? Yes?
<v Speaker 2>And there I don't know if you brought up there's
<v Speaker 2>a company that named Kasmir that's actually doing some very
<v Speaker 2>interesting stuff. Have you looked them up?
<v Speaker 4>The City Whites company have to look at I don't know,
<v Speaker 4>Kashmir Kashmir Space and they have it's basically free energy,
<v Speaker 4>but the.
<v Speaker 2>Department Defense is funding it, so I don't know, but
<v Speaker 2>they've had this forever, but now they're putting it out there,
<v Speaker 2>but it's called Kasimir Space for a reason.
<v Speaker 3>That is Funny White's company.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, yes, yes, White is it goes even further because, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>this is where I want to help bridge some of
<v Speaker 1>the gap because people think when they hear some of
<v Speaker 1>this like, oh, she's just making this up whatever.
<v Speaker 3>Like No, these are like literal.
<v Speaker 1>Like former NASA engineers and people that have like defense
<v Speaker 1>contracts that are doing this stuff. And Sunny White is
<v Speaker 1>the founder of Kashmir the company Kasmir. It's named after
<v Speaker 1>Hendrik Kasimir, the Kashmir effect with the two plates and
<v Speaker 1>negative energy. And he was on Joe Rogan last year,
<v Speaker 1>not even a year ago, with a microchip that he
<v Speaker 1>said could do power low energy devices like pacemakers like
<v Speaker 1>forever with no batteries.
<v Speaker 3>So these concepts are absolutely real.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, people bring up and this is and if you
<v Speaker 1>talk to a lot of these engineers, they'll say the
<v Speaker 1>same thing that this really I ask you is they'll
<v Speaker 1>say that this goes back to like Nikola Tesla, it
<v Speaker 1>goes back to thinking of everything as waves and why
<v Speaker 1>we don't worry about plasma.
<v Speaker 3>One thing I want to go ahead.
<v Speaker 2>Well, I should just say back to connection you're saying,
<v Speaker 2>because I never answer the questions people ask me, and
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to ask answer. Is I connect the radiant
<v Speaker 2>energy which most people don't with actual with this plasma,
<v Speaker 2>this finer plasma, and our consciousness and what we create
<v Speaker 2>out of that, out of literally creating with this ery,
<v Speaker 2>with this radiant matter in our consciousness is radiant energy.
<v Speaker 2>Some could call it God energy. I call it emergent energy,
<v Speaker 2>but some can call it dark energy, which expands the universe.
<v Speaker 2>But this is just simple pattern recognition. And maybe people
<v Speaker 2>don't take me seriously because I'm whimsical, but I know
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying is going to pay off, So I
<v Speaker 2>don't really give a fuck because I think that you
<v Speaker 2>can be smart and still be authentic and weird and
<v Speaker 2>goofy and yeah x race. There's if people want to
<v Speaker 2>know more about it, it's pages like fifty forty nine
<v Speaker 2>to fifty two in my book, I talk about this
<v Speaker 2>guy that Nicholson, John William Nicholson, and his other model
<v Speaker 2>of an Adam and why it has to do more
<v Speaker 2>with like spectrals, and yeah, I go all into those
<v Speaker 2>weird things.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, interesting, I didn't know about him. I'll have to
<v Speaker 3>look him up later.
<v Speaker 2>I love him deep.
<v Speaker 3>Have you ever looked at a company called Brilliant Light
<v Speaker 3>Power before? You may want to check into them.
<v Speaker 1>They're more I mean, not so much like they don't
<v Speaker 1>talk about plasma or you know, esoteric concepts as much.
<v Speaker 1>But they've basically made a little fusion reactors releasing X
<v Speaker 1>rays and they're trying to harness the X rays as energy,
<v Speaker 1>trying to harness everything.
<v Speaker 3>But I've been talking to their CEO, guy named.
<v Speaker 1>I forgot up the top of my head'll come to
<v Speaker 1>me in a second, but mis Randall Mills and and
<v Speaker 1>I think it was Catherine Hicks was talking about him
<v Speaker 1>and then Breakthrough Energy. So the thas why I bring
<v Speaker 1>it up is that you know, assuming that you're correct,
<v Speaker 1>which I think you are about some of this plasma
<v Speaker 1>and my theories as well is that people have been
<v Speaker 1>working on this and they've they've figured out that's the
<v Speaker 1>secret of it, and they're exploiting it to make money
<v Speaker 1>in businesses, and the government's exploiting it I think for
<v Speaker 1>military purposes. Oh yeah, now, is that why you spoke
<v Speaker 1>to Nick Cook? How did you get in touch with him?
<v Speaker 1>With the Yeah, zero point energy. Yeah, that conversation is
<v Speaker 1>really interesting.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so very interesting story. So basically really quick with
<v Speaker 2>what's going on right now. And so the government's known
<v Speaker 2>about this for one hundred years, right and now all
<v Speaker 2>these people are coming out with it. That is because
<v Speaker 2>and I have insider information about this, and I'm fine
<v Speaker 2>saying it. They've been told and given permission by the
<v Speaker 2>government to come out with it. These people have had
<v Speaker 2>these technologies forever and they've in the past have been
<v Speaker 2>you know, suppressed.
<v Speaker 3>Now be.
<v Speaker 2>So many people know about it, and it's just it's
<v Speaker 2>a safer time for people where it wasn't ten years ago.
<v Speaker 2>And I will also say with that, as cool as all,
<v Speaker 2>this is the real secret hidden in plain sight. And
<v Speaker 2>this goes back to secret society. It's as crazy as
<v Speaker 2>it sounds, is that, yes, we can use technology and
<v Speaker 2>tools for this, but the beautifulest gift of all is
<v Speaker 2>that we can use it with our own consciousness. And
<v Speaker 2>that's what I teach, which is kind of a fresh perspective,
<v Speaker 2>and we can get into that after. I will go
<v Speaker 2>back to your question now, Nick Cook, And this goes
<v Speaker 2>back to what I was saying with my unique perspective.
<v Speaker 2>I got invited to a secret plasma conference. Robert Temple
<v Speaker 2>was there. Nick Cook was there an Exeter in England
<v Speaker 2>over the summer in twenty twenty five, and we were
<v Speaker 2>all brought together, like twenty of us to present on plasma.
<v Speaker 2>Jude Curvin was there, Bernard Carr was there, the black
<v Speaker 2>hole mathematician or astrophysicist, and I basically was there presenting
<v Speaker 2>on my unique theories in plasma. And we all made
<v Speaker 2>friends and met there. And Nick was there discussing his
<v Speaker 2>interface theory that he kind of was inspired by Donald Hoffman,
<v Speaker 2>I think, in plasma and talking about the orbs and
<v Speaker 2>what the plasmoids might be as far as interface theory goes. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>so I met.
<v Speaker 1>Him there, So that's how you got in touch with him. Wow, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>so you were at a secret plasma conference.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I would. I really, I'm just being
<v Speaker 2>funny like secret, but it was just close to the
<v Speaker 2>public like I posted about it.
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, no, it's definitely a secret plasma conference.
<v Speaker 3>That's what we're gonna refer to it as.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah and this, and it got exposed on the Hard
<v Speaker 1>Shrews podcast right here exclusive boom just like that yes,
<v Speaker 1>that's pretty amazing that that you had, that you got
<v Speaker 1>involved in that, and.
<v Speaker 3>That you I do want to explore this aspect.
<v Speaker 1>Of consciousness connected to it, but I want to build
<v Speaker 1>up towards that.
<v Speaker 3>So you believe in the idea of the ether, then.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, yeah, the like our you know, Aristotle
<v Speaker 2>spoke about quintessence and Plato and goes beyond before that.
<v Speaker 1>But yes, yeah, And I guess this is the reason
<v Speaker 1>why I asked is because that would seem to be
<v Speaker 1>the explanation for when you say there's this other version
<v Speaker 1>of plasma that's like, I don't know if you said
<v Speaker 1>it was less dense or like, you know, yeah, less dense,
<v Speaker 1>And that can explain it because you know, the idea
<v Speaker 1>of the ether is this idea that we're in a
<v Speaker 1>medium yea, And we now know, you know, the ether
<v Speaker 1>was not in vogue and hasn't been in vogue for
<v Speaker 1>a while, but we now know that there is this
<v Speaker 1>virtual particle anti particle pairs that are constantly annihilated that
<v Speaker 1>we call the zero point energy.
<v Speaker 3>That's all around us.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And so.
<v Speaker 3>One of the things I've learned researching the science physics
<v Speaker 3>is they keep changing the names of things changed plasmoids
<v Speaker 3>into field reverse configuration. I don't know if you know this.
<v Speaker 1>But like, yeah, that's like what they're using for fusion.
<v Speaker 1>They just don't say plasma as they go field reverse configuration.
<v Speaker 1>But at the middle of it is literally a plasmoid.
<v Speaker 2>You're like, yeah, ball, lightning, you were speaking about I
<v Speaker 2>saw you speak about that.
<v Speaker 3>So they do.
<v Speaker 1>They change the names of all these things all the time,
<v Speaker 1>and that's why you look back and you go, okay,
<v Speaker 1>well wait, so there really is this medium and what
<v Speaker 1>are its properties?
<v Speaker 3>Like ye, they say, okay, well this.
<v Speaker 1>Zero point energy. That means that there's these electromagnetic.
<v Speaker 3>Fields everywhere in the universe even when there's no matter
<v Speaker 3>or energy.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, this is a big contradiction. How can that be true?
<v Speaker 1>What we're told is equals mc squared? So yeah, there's
<v Speaker 1>no mass, yes, where the field's coming from, and they're
<v Speaker 1>not mass.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and the Higgs field gives us mass. But my
<v Speaker 2>thing is I call it. This is way into my theory,
<v Speaker 2>but I call it four D plasma. You can call
<v Speaker 2>it the collective unconscious, you can call it what was
<v Speaker 2>beyond the Higgs field. But the Higgs field is like
<v Speaker 2>a gateway where this you know, fourth dimensional field, which
<v Speaker 2>is this is going to sound a lot, but like
<v Speaker 2>in between us and God or us and our higher
<v Speaker 2>selves whatever you want to call like three D five D,
<v Speaker 2>I don't give a shit. But there's this bridge layer.
<v Speaker 2>There's this middle layer that is an mythology, every religion,
<v Speaker 2>every tradition ever, the subconscious, even in Carl Jung and
<v Speaker 2>the collective unconscious, and there's this layer that feeds into
<v Speaker 2>our reality that seems to give it mass. And that
<v Speaker 2>layer is simply our thoughts and emotions that are working
<v Speaker 2>with this non physical plasma that we can call an ether,
<v Speaker 2>and that all connects it back to consciousness and how
<v Speaker 2>we can co create reality. We don't create reality, We're
<v Speaker 2>not God, we don't control it, but we co create
<v Speaker 2>it with our expanded selves. And that's where I get
<v Speaker 2>into the philosophy and lose some people, but it really
<v Speaker 2>makes sense.
<v Speaker 1>That doesn't really lose me. I think that the spiritual
<v Speaker 1>side of it is more of like someone's personal belief
<v Speaker 1>system as opposed to the physical side of You know,
<v Speaker 1>when you learn that magic is actually real, something like
<v Speaker 1>the entanglement, Yeah, and you start to say, well, your
<v Speaker 1>perspective of that concept and what that means.
<v Speaker 3>It can be different for different people, you know, just
<v Speaker 3>the same way with religions.
<v Speaker 2>That's the thinking of it, though. Apply what I'm saying
<v Speaker 2>is a framework to any belief system. Everything is a story.
<v Speaker 2>Science is a story. Reality is alive. Science doesn't discover things.
<v Speaker 2>Things are being created, and we're we're growing and evolving.
<v Speaker 2>That's why all these new things are happening.
<v Speaker 3>You know.
<v Speaker 1>It's yeah, let me ask you, let me bring up
<v Speaker 1>another point, and I want to talk more about this
<v Speaker 1>idea of the ether. Yes, you're probably not familiar, but
<v Speaker 1>maybe you are any more research. There's a guy named
<v Speaker 1>Ferris Williams. Have you ever heard of him before?
<v Speaker 2>No, tell me more about them.
<v Speaker 1>He is the guy that corrected the nuclear yield calculations
<v Speaker 1>back the fifties or the sixties.
<v Speaker 3>But he was a Navy.
<v Speaker 1>Guy and he decided to do equals mc squared on
<v Speaker 1>our nuclear weapons and he realized the yields should be
<v Speaker 1>fifty percent higher than what they've got documented on paper. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>you would say, okay, well, why would this cause a big,
<v Speaker 1>big scene?
<v Speaker 3>Well will cause a big scene because is we're.
<v Speaker 1>Storing these things somewhere, and if one were to accidentally
<v Speaker 1>go off, it's gonna be fifty percent higher than what
<v Speaker 1>we expect is already a thermonuclear deatonation. But I think
<v Speaker 1>the real underlining subtlety of it is do we understand
<v Speaker 1>physics correctly?
<v Speaker 3>Because it turns out Ferris Williams was right.
<v Speaker 1>They had a tribunal with like the top Navy scientists
<v Speaker 1>and top brass and they ended up agreeing with him
<v Speaker 1>in his calculation the way, So this implies that he
<v Speaker 1>was looking at physics a different way, and in fact
<v Speaker 1>he attested that after this, Yeah, he no longer he
<v Speaker 1>thought that all physics might be fundamentally wrong. There might
<v Speaker 1>be a fundamental flo How could all of these scientists
<v Speaker 1>get the math wrong when all use a calculator and
<v Speaker 1>correct them. And I think that's a very interesting case
<v Speaker 1>because whatever happened to that is technically classified.
<v Speaker 3>We don't really know from the public perspective. Figure it
<v Speaker 3>out some sid of physics.
<v Speaker 2>Now.
<v Speaker 1>The reason why I bring this up, but he came
<v Speaker 1>up with his own theory, unification theory, the dynamic theory,
<v Speaker 1>which is in my opinion, brings the ether back in
<v Speaker 1>a way where he doesn't say it directly, Okay. Point
<v Speaker 1>is he says, there's five equations that you have to
<v Speaker 1>solve in order to figure out the thermodynamic situation of
<v Speaker 1>a system. And that's like the energy level, Yeah, engine pressure,
<v Speaker 1>and then the three vectors your three dimensions.
<v Speaker 3>So essentially, if you.
<v Speaker 1>Were to boil it down, you would say three spatial
<v Speaker 1>dimensions up, down, left, right, back and forward. You would
<v Speaker 1>say you have your time dimension, which is your pressure,
<v Speaker 1>and then your last one is your energy equation.
<v Speaker 2>Oh I love it because that's four D to me
<v Speaker 2>is time at circular time, and five d's energy, which
<v Speaker 2>is outside of time completely. That's the way I see
<v Speaker 2>it in my mind.
<v Speaker 3>And five D is the ether.
<v Speaker 1>Because now your system could either be this closed system
<v Speaker 1>that you if you want to draw your boundaries, or
<v Speaker 1>you could say, you know what your system.
<v Speaker 3>Is the whole universe. Yes, and he.
<v Speaker 1>Said, he said, if I need five equations, yeah, solve this.
<v Speaker 1>There must be five dimensions.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Well say about this.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I gave you a little thing.
<v Speaker 1>But the reason why I brought that up, yes, I
<v Speaker 1>would ask you do you think, because you connect plasma
<v Speaker 1>and all this to spirituality and consciousness, do you think
<v Speaker 1>consciousness is a local.
<v Speaker 3>Phenomenon or a non local phenomenon.
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that our consciousness like actually resides in
<v Speaker 1>our body or do you think our consciousness is coming
<v Speaker 1>from somewhere else?
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, there's so much to say here. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>I'll go back to the five thing moment. I believe
<v Speaker 2>that our consciousness is more of a system. So I
<v Speaker 2>believe that there's awareness in this fifth dimensional space. I
<v Speaker 2>call it awareness, you can call it fifth dimensional consciousness.
<v Speaker 2>It is our expanded consciousness, our higher self. You know
<v Speaker 2>that almost is like a pearl that can see the
<v Speaker 2>rays of every timeline we're on in this third dimension. Right,
<v Speaker 2>if every choice we make fractals off into a choice,
<v Speaker 2>it also can see this fourth dimensional space where our
<v Speaker 2>thoughts and emotions are the acotic realm. So you know,
<v Speaker 2>sometimes it knows better than us, right, our gut knows
<v Speaker 2>better than our survival, consciousness, our logic, Which is why
<v Speaker 2>when we're in a state of play, or in the
<v Speaker 2>shower or on a road trip, we get those grand
<v Speaker 2>ideas because we're not in logic, because logic can only create.
<v Speaker 2>You know, what's happening right now when we open it
<v Speaker 2>up to receiving from the more, you know, higher spaces.
<v Speaker 2>That's when we get things that actually change the world.
<v Speaker 2>But I believe that consciousness is more of a multi
<v Speaker 2>dimensional perspective. So you know, if I'm in third dimensional
<v Speaker 2>consciousness in my framework, I'm in survival mode. I'm in logic.
<v Speaker 2>I'm you know, feedbacking with the plasma of reality, of
<v Speaker 2>this material reality. If I'm in fourth dimensional consciousness as
<v Speaker 2>a system perspective, and I'm still in third dimensional physical matter,
<v Speaker 2>I maybe feedbacking with thoughts and emotions or trauma, you know,
<v Speaker 2>or working through something in that layer. And then if
<v Speaker 2>I'm in fifth dimensional consciousness or awareness or you know,
<v Speaker 2>just straight up being, and I can be like that
<v Speaker 2>now in my body, I'm in the present, I'm you know,
<v Speaker 2>I'm in flow, which I can get in a lot.
<v Speaker 2>I'm not thinking about that guy hasn't texted me back,
<v Speaker 2>like you know, stuff like that, which we So we
<v Speaker 2>can exist in all of those and it's the really
<v Speaker 2>the multi dimensional human and consciousness is just a relationship
<v Speaker 2>that we're in with plasma in these different states. That's
<v Speaker 2>what I think.
<v Speaker 1>So my interpretation of that is that you would say
<v Speaker 1>it's not local because if you're able to information from
<v Speaker 1>some external thing. There at least is a non local
<v Speaker 1>connection to it important.
<v Speaker 2>Mhm, it's non local, yes.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think that's a that's a big revelation.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's what Tesla thought. I think I think
<v Speaker 1>he would have looked at as our bodies as receivers
<v Speaker 1>of information and that that's, to me, is a huge
<v Speaker 1>profound thing.
<v Speaker 3>I mean.
<v Speaker 1>Even Sabine Haustenfelder, she's a famous physicist, was saying the
<v Speaker 1>other day that.
<v Speaker 2>I was looking for up the other day.
<v Speaker 1>She's interesting, but you have to keep in mind that
<v Speaker 1>a lot of these physicists, they come from a different world,
<v Speaker 1>you know, than and especially really the older physicists. The
<v Speaker 1>world that they came from is not the same world
<v Speaker 1>that we live in today anymore.
<v Speaker 2>She is multiverse. But that's okay. I still like some
<v Speaker 2>of the stuff she says.
<v Speaker 3>M hm, it was Max Plank.
<v Speaker 1>I think that said that, you know then paraphrasing, but
<v Speaker 1>that physics, you know, science advances.
<v Speaker 3>One funeral at a time.
<v Speaker 1>And the reason why these conversations are important is that
<v Speaker 1>it's the next generation that will come in with the
<v Speaker 1>new ideas that will up end the old the previous
<v Speaker 1>generation and what their thoughts were the non local consciousness
<v Speaker 1>thing I think feeds directly into this idea of ether,
<v Speaker 1>and you start to see that you really are building
<v Speaker 1>a kind of a unified theory about how all of
<v Speaker 1>these things are connected. It was to be in Hospit
<v Speaker 1>Teller's video yesterday it said that can any any unified
<v Speaker 1>theory must include consciousness and be able to explain consciousness. Yes,
<v Speaker 1>that's tough ass because consciousness is like basically like magic
<v Speaker 1>for us. So my thought would be that it must
<v Speaker 1>be connected to quantum entanglement. Would you say, well, I mean,
<v Speaker 1>how do you connect these ideas together. Do you think
<v Speaker 1>that they're the same thing, or do that they might
<v Speaker 1>be connected.
<v Speaker 3>To some degree?
<v Speaker 2>Sure, I would say it's a little bit within and
<v Speaker 2>without quantum. If that makes sense, I would say it
<v Speaker 2>veers more into what I call quintessence or science that
<v Speaker 2>hasn't been created yet, which is more like a holistic science.
<v Speaker 2>It is bringing all the fields together to work more
<v Speaker 2>with pattern recognition than just pure science. But I believe
<v Speaker 2>science is wonderful, and I believe that quantum entanglement explains
<v Speaker 2>a lot of things in their own lens. But I
<v Speaker 2>think there's more I don't know if there's even a
<v Speaker 2>language for it. But there's something beyond all of that
<v Speaker 2>that explains what consciousness is in the realm. But yes,
<v Speaker 2>I love you know, you know, like superposition, quantum, entanglement.
<v Speaker 2>I think those things are great shadows to explain what
<v Speaker 2>is happening. But I think there's more of like a feeling, emotion,
<v Speaker 2>tangent ability, quotion that we miss. But yeah, I love
<v Speaker 2>what you said.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, can you explain to me the you mentioned earlier,
<v Speaker 3>the divine feminine? This is the second time I've heard
<v Speaker 3>this mention.
<v Speaker 1>I think the last one was uh, I think it
<v Speaker 1>was with the Cosmic summit when I when I heard
<v Speaker 1>this mention the first time, How does the divine first
<v Speaker 1>of all, maybe explain to me what the divine feminine
<v Speaker 1>is or from a?
<v Speaker 3>And then how does this connect the plasma?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so loaded question. I have like two hundred pages
<v Speaker 2>on this in my book. But there's a there is
<v Speaker 2>a reason that every secret society that Rosa Cruscians, the Masons,
<v Speaker 2>like they Jewish mysticism, like there is this secret goddess
<v Speaker 2>that is woven within everything. Even before Christianity, the Ashira
<v Speaker 2>polls which were torn down when God had a wife
<v Speaker 2>that all of a sudden disappeared. When you know Christianity
<v Speaker 2>was formed. There is this feminine substance to counteract the
<v Speaker 2>masculine consciousness, which is plasma, which is now you know
<v Speaker 2>our current name for it. In one hundred years maybe
<v Speaker 2>it will be something else else. But when you name
<v Speaker 2>something like plasma and Greek means to mold, right, and
<v Speaker 2>it also plasja, plas dash ma eth dash her they're
<v Speaker 2>both feminine, feminine names, right, there's a lot with language
<v Speaker 2>there and in the in these traditions they worshiped isis Anana, Mary, Magdalene,
<v Speaker 2>the rose. When you put plat plug plasma into a
<v Speaker 2>universe model, what do you get? A rose looking galaxy
<v Speaker 2>or a ballerina skirt. You could look it up on
<v Speaker 2>I think plasma universe dot com or something. But basically,
<v Speaker 2>the divine feminine is something within every man, woman, person.
<v Speaker 2>It is feminine traits of receptivity, of surrender. It is
<v Speaker 2>your It is every person's magic power. It is learning
<v Speaker 2>to receive this higher consciousness but also how to softly
<v Speaker 2>put it out. You know, it is subtle energy. It
<v Speaker 2>is the mirror. So if if this was a worldI
<v Speaker 2>just of consciousness, we would all be talking to each other.
<v Speaker 1>Right.
<v Speaker 2>Consciousness needs a mirror to experience itself. It needs intelligent
<v Speaker 2>clay to mold reality, to create. It is our creative
<v Speaker 2>dance partner in life, and we've forgotten all about it.
<v Speaker 2>And yes, know thyself is so important, but we have
<v Speaker 2>to also know this secret substance that we're working with
<v Speaker 2>or else we're just alone. And that is why we
<v Speaker 2>all feel alone, like something is missing within us. Every
<v Speaker 2>human on earth is searching in material things outside of ourselves. Like,
<v Speaker 2>no matter what scientists you are, the problem we all
<v Speaker 2>have is really within relationships, right, But the most beautiful
<v Speaker 2>relationship is with our cosmic mother. It is with plasma.
<v Speaker 2>It is you know, this magic and mother's milk within us.
<v Speaker 2>And when we right now in science, we're brushing up
<v Speaker 2>against this, right. So it's I think a really beautiful
<v Speaker 2>time to kind of come back to the wholeness of
<v Speaker 2>who we are.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's a lot of themes of duality in that.
<v Speaker 2>And there's about duality too, Yeah, I'll speak.
<v Speaker 3>It's connected to electromagnetisms.
<v Speaker 1>They are positive and minus and I could see how
<v Speaker 1>that could even feed into consciousness.
<v Speaker 3>Or to you know, male versus female themes as well.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and beyond that there is So I'm because I'm
<v Speaker 2>not like a feminist, I'm, you know, a humanist, but
<v Speaker 2>I'm all about neutrality. So in this fifth dimensional space
<v Speaker 2>beyond this right, because the divine feminine is the fourth
<v Speaker 2>dimensional space. It is suppressed plasma. It is Collie, the
<v Speaker 2>goddess of creation and destruction. This fifth dimensional space is
<v Speaker 2>a space of the divine child. It is of neutrality.
<v Speaker 2>This is the space we're really getting towards. But you
<v Speaker 2>need the mother and the father to get to that space.
<v Speaker 2>You can't just go from three D to enlightenment, right,
<v Speaker 2>You have to go through the darkness. And this is
<v Speaker 2>in every secret tradition too, that they knew this. You
<v Speaker 2>have to go to the descent to ascent. You have
<v Speaker 2>to bend your knees to jump up. So this space
<v Speaker 2>that I think we're getting into is actually more the
<v Speaker 2>age of the divine child. It is the age of
<v Speaker 2>neutrality and of nondualism and beyond dualism and the rainbow
<v Speaker 2>serpent and all those things.
<v Speaker 3>Mody Dave would really like you.
<v Speaker 1>He loves the whole divine feminine and masculine and producing
<v Speaker 1>the child. There was like his analogy that he said
<v Speaker 1>on Tim Poole when I.
<v Speaker 3>Brought him on there.
<v Speaker 1>Really he was freaking people out at the time. But
<v Speaker 1>now maybe it's a little bit more accepted.
<v Speaker 2>I can talk about it in terms too.
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, and you know this, Actually this makes sense
<v Speaker 1>to me from a holographic universe perspective because I look
<v Speaker 1>at this universe as if I were to say, take
<v Speaker 1>away all this matter that you see, which isn't that
<v Speaker 1>much actually if you a should do the math, like
<v Speaker 1>everything is empty. What we're luck with is this substance
<v Speaker 1>that is we called nothing but energy and matter can
<v Speaker 1>appear from it out of nowhere.
<v Speaker 3>And if something's appearing.
<v Speaker 1>From out of nowhere, then I immediately am going to
<v Speaker 1>evoke an extra dimension. Like if I were to look
<v Speaker 1>down on that, I could see what's really going on.
<v Speaker 1>From the extra dimension, I can see that, oh, this
<v Speaker 1>is interacting from over here, but I can't see that.
<v Speaker 3>From within that level of mention.
<v Speaker 1>Ye, this opens up the idea now from our perspective
<v Speaker 1>of really just magic being possible, like things could materialize,
<v Speaker 1>things could just yeah, just we could even make like
<v Speaker 1>you know, star trek replicator type situation in the future where.
<v Speaker 3>We build something from the ground up, straight from the scratch.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Really, I think the there's a connection between the plasma
<v Speaker 1>universe model and the electric universe model, which are very
<v Speaker 1>similar because plasma produces electromagnetic fields. So yeah, I don't
<v Speaker 1>really even know how they're necessarily different. So if you
<v Speaker 1>hear people say like, oh, the universe of ninety eight
<v Speaker 1>percent plasma or whatever, they're usually they're talking about the
<v Speaker 1>same kind of concept, that is, electromagnetic forces can probably
<v Speaker 1>explain like everything, or at least the vast majority of
<v Speaker 1>stuff that we see out there.
<v Speaker 3>What do you think about UFOs?
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I love that you asked this. I have so
<v Speaker 2>much on this. I think maybe you'll like this, maybe
<v Speaker 2>you won't, who knows. So back to the nuclear stuff plasma, right,
<v Speaker 2>these plasmoids, just like plasma, is a vehicle for consciousness.
<v Speaker 2>So plasma once again, is sentient, it is receptive. Consciousness
<v Speaker 2>can imprint on it just like a sperm and an egg, right,
<v Speaker 2>but it is not conscious itself, but it can hold consciousness.
<v Speaker 2>So when plasma has certain properties of self organization, like
<v Speaker 2>in dusty complex plasma and this, you know potential, but
<v Speaker 2>they're using nuclear stuff. It can hold memory, yes, but
<v Speaker 2>it can also at some point hold consciousness. So these
<v Speaker 2>plasmoids in the sky might be holding a consciousness, which
<v Speaker 2>are most of the UFOs are made of plasma. They
<v Speaker 2>might be consciousness remote viewing us from another world. They
<v Speaker 2>might be our higher selves coming down to just check
<v Speaker 2>on us. I believe that the real disclosure is that
<v Speaker 2>it's coming from inside of us, from our higher selves.
<v Speaker 2>So these because we would have figured it at the
<v Speaker 2>outbine now otherwise it has been going on for like ever.
<v Speaker 2>These orbs are just trying to tell us, hey, look
<v Speaker 2>what we're doing with plasma. We use it with our consciousness.
<v Speaker 2>We're using it to visit you. You know, it's like
<v Speaker 2>the looking glass. You can do this too. They're trying
<v Speaker 2>to remind us of our own inner power. It is
<v Speaker 2>that simple. And when you take away the trauma and like,
<v Speaker 2>you know, the abductions and the negative stories about it.
<v Speaker 2>Because I've I've had horrible experiences with seeing scary things.
<v Speaker 2>I'm not discounting any of those, but I've also been
<v Speaker 2>through a lot of trauma and we all have. When
<v Speaker 2>you start healing your own psyche and you experience these
<v Speaker 2>same things in a positive way. Most people, I think
<v Speaker 2>will agree that these things are just trying to tell
<v Speaker 2>us messages to evolve us, and we need to listen
<v Speaker 2>to our in ourselves. So yeah, there's some That's what
<v Speaker 2>I think most of the UFOs are is actually these
<v Speaker 2>beings viewing us. And then yes, maybe there is some
<v Speaker 2>sinister thing where like you know, the government are you know,
<v Speaker 2>bad people have taken these plasmas and you know, maybe
<v Speaker 2>they're trying to do some you know, brain programs and
<v Speaker 2>see how people are interacting with them. They're trying to
<v Speaker 2>hijack what's naturally happening. But if you're tuned in your body,
<v Speaker 2>you can tell the organic from the inorganic experience. In
<v Speaker 2>my opinion, that's what I think.
<v Speaker 1>Let me play a really cool video I want to
<v Speaker 1>play here, so if people are just listening, they can
<v Speaker 1>come check and watch on this on the YouTube channel.
<v Speaker 1>But it's called I just call it Plasma in Space.
<v Speaker 3>This is a video. I'm gonna mute it.
<v Speaker 1>It's in Russian anyway, they can't hear. That's why I
<v Speaker 1>put sound over it. Yeah, yeah, this is this is
<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite videos. It's in Russian. It's got
<v Speaker 1>English subtitles, but it shows dusty plasma in zero G.
<v Speaker 1>So that's what you're looking at here, and you can
<v Speaker 1>see self organizational properties of it immediately. I mean almost
<v Speaker 1>looks like a little squid with these tendrils coming out
<v Speaker 1>of it. And so they started experimenting with plasma in
<v Speaker 1>space and you start to see all of these phenomenon
<v Speaker 1>that we recognize. First just the self organizational properties of it.
<v Speaker 1>And then here in a little bit you'll start to
<v Speaker 1>see that what they did was suddenly like a void.
<v Speaker 1>It begins to form when they didn't expect it, which
<v Speaker 1>would represent like a black hole in galactic astronomy. And
<v Speaker 1>then in addition to that, you'll also see and so
<v Speaker 1>you see this superstructure form. Is what you're seeing right here,
<v Speaker 1>is these superstructures begin to form, or you see this
<v Speaker 1>organization that you wouldn't normally expect. You see black holes form,
<v Speaker 1>you will see and so there's the black hole that
<v Speaker 1>you can just see, like there's this void just forms
<v Speaker 1>and this is all just an electrostatic electromagnetic force causing this.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, look how clear that void is right there.
<v Speaker 3>It's just weird. You can see the flow entirely around it.
<v Speaker 2>Every forest has a void.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, every towrust has a void.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, And then you'll also see it can explain galactic formation.
<v Speaker 1>So you mentioned dark energy, Well, dark matter is another.
<v Speaker 3>One of those things.
<v Speaker 1>And even though the Higgs field explains some something that
<v Speaker 1>doesn't explain everything about mass, and so here you can
<v Speaker 1>see this is actually just small scale dusty plasmas looks
<v Speaker 1>just like a galaxy. And the thing about galaxy formation,
<v Speaker 1>they say, well, the galaxy the stars at the edges
<v Speaker 1>of the galaxies are moving too fast. They should be
<v Speaker 1>they're moving too slow.
<v Speaker 3>They should be.
<v Speaker 1>Moving faster relative to the ones of the center. Uh
<v Speaker 1>huh uh and so uh and so what you see
<v Speaker 1>here is this explains why is that it's really just
<v Speaker 1>electromagnetic forces spinning around the center point which allows those
<v Speaker 1>stars to move so quickly at the edges. So that
<v Speaker 1>one video that I just thought was really neat when
<v Speaker 1>it comes to how plasma kind of works in general plasma.
<v Speaker 1>The other thing I want to show, I think if
<v Speaker 1>I have I have.
<v Speaker 2>Another video while you're looking for this link. Plat when
<v Speaker 2>people meditate and they see themselves as crystal or crystal
<v Speaker 2>beans or like shining skin. The shining that that's I mean,
<v Speaker 2>we're literally on some level made of crystal, right, So
<v Speaker 2>it's the plasma crystal thing is interesting. Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>The other.
<v Speaker 1>The other video I was going to show is this
<v Speaker 1>one from I have to use a news nation link.
<v Speaker 3>It looks like from Congressman Burliston.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you had seen the video of
<v Speaker 1>this UFO that was like here, I think I have
<v Speaker 1>got it.
<v Speaker 3>We'll use this readily. Here we go.
<v Speaker 2>Plasma can shape shift to have you looked into the
<v Speaker 2>Jillian model.
<v Speaker 3>I doesn't sound familiar, but this I kind of have.
<v Speaker 1>I just kind of spoiled it here. But so my
<v Speaker 1>thought is this is plasma. But I want to know
<v Speaker 1>what your thought is. This is a video the Congressman
<v Speaker 1>bur Liston showed at one of those UFO hearings, not
<v Speaker 1>even that long ago, a couple of months ago. So
<v Speaker 1>here we are, there's an object. This object suddenly any
<v Speaker 1>second now mm hmm, it's gonna get hit by something.
<v Speaker 1>So we got his object flow into this sky. We
<v Speaker 1>have some kind of flear camera that's staring at it.
<v Speaker 3>This must be the longer extended version of it, so.
<v Speaker 1>Watching it also it gets hit it gets hit and
<v Speaker 1>you see these little things I'm off of. It keeps
<v Speaker 1>going and so you know, de Barbers tried to say
<v Speaker 1>that this is like parallax or something, but I mean,
<v Speaker 1>look at what you're I mean, clearly that's moving across.
<v Speaker 2>No less plasma, think of flubber, think of like neuturistic technology. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I mean it all is sentient, holds memory so it
<v Speaker 2>can shape shift, and magnetic recombination. It has a lot
<v Speaker 2>of characteristics in plasma.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>So for me, the part it gets hit, let's just
<v Speaker 1>go show the part where it gets hit right here. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>to me, this had to be pleasant because if this
<v Speaker 1>was like a solid object, this should just follow the
<v Speaker 1>ground like this should immediately hit the water right there.
<v Speaker 1>Instead just keeps floating and even the other pieces that
<v Speaker 1>break off keep floating. People dress this as a balloon
<v Speaker 1>or something like. No, to me, that shows the self
<v Speaker 1>organizational prices.
<v Speaker 3>What are your thoughts on that? Butvie, have you ever
<v Speaker 3>seen that before?
<v Speaker 1>No?
<v Speaker 2>I mean I don't think so maybe I have.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>I have the worst memory, but speaking of memory and plasma,
<v Speaker 2>I have the worst one. But funny enough with that,
<v Speaker 2>if you look up the Julium model. I think you
<v Speaker 2>will love this j E L L I U M.
<v Speaker 2>Lane google it right really quick. So one wonderful explanation
<v Speaker 2>is when these things do fly to fall to the ground,
<v Speaker 2>why they might look like metal is because I believe
<v Speaker 2>that these are ran by If these are ran by
<v Speaker 2>higher consciousness beings, when they when the beings are no
<v Speaker 2>longer working that plasma or remote viewing from that plasma,
<v Speaker 2>it's going to turn into a metal and materialize when
<v Speaker 2>it hits the ground because you don't have that higher
<v Speaker 2>consciousness that knows how to work with it. And in
<v Speaker 2>the Julia model, metal is very similar to plasma, so
<v Speaker 2>much so that Lockheed Martin has patents and people that
<v Speaker 2>train these people who are flying these kind of shape
<v Speaker 2>shifting metal planes because their consciousness can interact with the planes.
<v Speaker 2>So basically, if if the astronauts and plane people have
<v Speaker 2>too much emotions going on, they're worried that it could
<v Speaker 2>take down the plane. So they know that our consciousness
<v Speaker 2>affects metal and matter in these weird plasmatic ways.
<v Speaker 1>And there's you know, plasma is actually closer to metal
<v Speaker 1>than what people think. The yeah thing I learned recently
<v Speaker 1>was that because when we define these things, we're really
<v Speaker 1>talking about how the particles are actually able to move
<v Speaker 1>or were not able to move, you know, solid versus gas,
<v Speaker 1>versus liquid versus plasma, And the feature of plasma is
<v Speaker 1>that the electrons are moving freely. They've created a soup
<v Speaker 1>in fact, where the electrons and metal, actually the in
<v Speaker 1>metal electrons actually move relatively freely as well, so to
<v Speaker 1>something they share that property, So you could there's to me,
<v Speaker 1>I doesn't have any problem. Imagine a phase transition where
<v Speaker 1>a metal transitions between plasma and a metal state.
<v Speaker 3>I think that's really possible.
<v Speaker 1>And so people they say, oh, what about the buga
<v Speaker 1>sphere and all this. I mean, in theory, I can
<v Speaker 1>imagine there being a plasma ball that turns into a
<v Speaker 1>metal ball after it it's deactivated or what have you.
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know until I see it myself. It's
<v Speaker 1>gonna be hard to you know, fully grasp.
<v Speaker 2>Can I say? I'm noticing right now? Just with your background,
<v Speaker 2>are those Pokemon cards?
<v Speaker 1>These These are not my brother taught me. My nephew
<v Speaker 1>taught me play Pokemon cards.
<v Speaker 3>Like recently, Like I'm not wood.
<v Speaker 1>Tier, you know, I might be higher than Rush here
<v Speaker 1>at this point, like maybe Bronze, I was just.
<v Speaker 2>Thinking PoCA balls and orbs and how they have you know,
<v Speaker 2>these mythological creatures in them. It just reminds me of
<v Speaker 2>these or like Fantastic Planet, the movie where the aliens
<v Speaker 2>are in little orbs. It's just like, you know, it
<v Speaker 2>kind of foreshadows what we're saying.
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, but consciously I wanted to expand on the
<v Speaker 1>consciousness thing that you said, because this is something that's
<v Speaker 1>come up with the UFO Lower a lot, and this
<v Speaker 1>is one that I've struggled with personally because honestly, for
<v Speaker 1>the people out there, I'm I'm more on the skeptic
<v Speaker 1>debunker side than I am on the believer side, even
<v Speaker 1>though I say some of the craziest stuff ever.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it's hard for me to wrap.
<v Speaker 1>My brain around like, hey, yeah, we can use our
<v Speaker 1>minds and control these orbs and fly them around. It's
<v Speaker 1>not beyond the realm of possibility, yea, Because I mean
<v Speaker 1>people have mindships in their head right now and they're
<v Speaker 1>controlling playing video games with mind.
<v Speaker 3>Ships in their brain.
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, yeah, it just seems difficult to grasp because
<v Speaker 1>I guess, in my perspective would say, why not just
<v Speaker 1>have a computer do that like the orbs in them
<v Speaker 1>a Street seven zero video. I don't need a human
<v Speaker 1>to be doing a mind link to make that happen.
<v Speaker 1>I can just have like AI can do that, you know.
<v Speaker 1>So yes, it's not that I don't think it's possible.
<v Speaker 1>I just think like, hmmm, why would I bother doing that?
<v Speaker 3>Or yeah, you know. And this was we were talking
<v Speaker 3>about this on Space last night.
<v Speaker 1>Actually we were talking about how like in the the
<v Speaker 1>Venezuelan raid that just happened. The rumor is there was
<v Speaker 1>some advanced technology it was used, and we had drones
<v Speaker 1>that were just anil people. And somebody brought up like,
<v Speaker 1>imagine like the super operator. The super operator's controlling like
<v Speaker 1>twelve drones at once, you know, and they've got their screens,
<v Speaker 1>they like, having a neural interface would be super And
<v Speaker 1>I just said, well, why have an operator at all?
<v Speaker 3>Couldn't you just have like the AI.
<v Speaker 1>Program that in and be like press go and then
<v Speaker 1>it just wipes people up.
<v Speaker 2>I wonder I know if you saw the institute on
<v Speaker 2>MGM or Amazon, but it has to do what they
<v Speaker 2>put a battery of like ten kids together who have telekinesis,
<v Speaker 2>and they create this battery where they you know, take
<v Speaker 2>someone over and almost like kill them, like with remote viewing,
<v Speaker 2>and it's like this weird thing, but I think it
<v Speaker 2>might have something to do with like the natural radiant
<v Speaker 2>energy that a human can harness versus maybe AI cannot
<v Speaker 2>at this point in time. Maybe that can happen in
<v Speaker 2>the future. But as far as like when I when
<v Speaker 2>I think of why we would use AI versus US,
<v Speaker 2>and this is just with like remote viewing or like
<v Speaker 2>you know, why would these beings view us and without
<v Speaker 2>you know, and not use technology kind of goes back
<v Speaker 2>to the feeling emotion. I was saying. I don't know
<v Speaker 2>about you, but like when I've had these experiences where
<v Speaker 2>I can view other things, the what changes me is
<v Speaker 2>the feelings and emotions I get. So that's probably why
<v Speaker 2>these beings are actually physically tangibly connecting in some way,
<v Speaker 2>if that makes any sense. But as far as like
<v Speaker 2>you know, military uses that, yeah, I don't know why
<v Speaker 2>you would. Person So do you.
<v Speaker 3>Think there's aliens out there? Do you think it's just
<v Speaker 3>plasma orbs?
<v Speaker 2>No, I think it's not explainable, And I think it
<v Speaker 2>more is about like I think there's tons of things
<v Speaker 2>out there, other beings of consciousness. Is it parts of
<v Speaker 2>ourself right in Carl Jung's theory, is it higher dimensional beings?
<v Speaker 2>Is it our higher selves? I call it our future ancestors.
<v Speaker 2>I think we're all a big freakin' mefed up family.
<v Speaker 2>And I don't think it matters who's visiting us. I mean, yes,
<v Speaker 2>like it could be a you know, a traumatic moment
<v Speaker 2>that's visiting us, and it's like a cryptid, But really
<v Speaker 2>we're focused on the cryptid and we write this whole
<v Speaker 2>book about cryptids when really it's like, you know that
<v Speaker 2>we were like touched or like I don't want six
<v Speaker 2>then on here that we were like I don't know,
<v Speaker 2>traumatized as a child. And I think Carl Jung says
<v Speaker 2>this too, like man's biggest fears facing hisself. I think
<v Speaker 2>there's a bunch of us just running around scared, not
<v Speaker 2>wanting to face ourselves, when really it doesn't matter what
<v Speaker 2>it is. It's like what meaning do we want to
<v Speaker 2>make and what relationship do we want to have with
<v Speaker 2>this and reaction? And then when we do learn from
<v Speaker 2>these experiences, what actually do we want to implement as
<v Speaker 2>change in our choices as human beings, Like we all
<v Speaker 2>need to grow up and face ourselves and then that's
<v Speaker 2>when magic comes into play, because actually, the more you
<v Speaker 2>focus on reality and what's really happening within you and
<v Speaker 2>your psyche, you can actually start to change reality. So yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I think some of this stuff is distractions that.
<v Speaker 3>Keeps us powered. Sorry, what was the last thing you said.
<v Speaker 2>That keep us disempowered? Like, if we're so focused on aliens,
<v Speaker 2>we're never going to get our own magic powers back.
<v Speaker 1>It's like, uh, well, I don't know what movie that
<v Speaker 1>was where they take your powers and they like hide
<v Speaker 1>it in a tool or whatever. It's probably in much
<v Speaker 1>of movies and books. But that was my ast questions.
<v Speaker 3>So what do you think is going on with the
<v Speaker 3>public discline? I mean, what are your opinion.
<v Speaker 1>On these people that are on the mainstream channels that
<v Speaker 1>are talking about we got crash retrievals.
<v Speaker 3>And alien bodies?
<v Speaker 1>I mean, how do you swear that with your perspective
<v Speaker 1>of plasma universe?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, people might hate me for this one, but I
<v Speaker 2>just have to tell what I really feel. I feel
<v Speaker 2>it's a really big distraction. I think it's cool. I
<v Speaker 2>think it's been going on for seventy years, and it's
<v Speaker 2>the same narrative. And I would question any mainstream narrative
<v Speaker 2>like disclosures mainstream now, like I question that what's not
<v Speaker 2>mainstream is that we should listen to our inner selves
<v Speaker 2>and our higher selves, that it's more about like our
<v Speaker 2>magic powers. But that's not as cool or sexy for
<v Speaker 2>the news. So here we are just you know, talking
<v Speaker 2>about this other stuff. I am not saying it's all fake.
<v Speaker 2>I cannot prove that. And I do think that a
<v Speaker 2>lot of this is real, right, Like I do think
<v Speaker 2>there are crashes, and I'm sure there are retrieval Like
<v Speaker 2>I'm not discounting it. I'm just saying, like there's a
<v Speaker 2>huge part to the story that's not being told. And
<v Speaker 2>I like to look in those crevices of like what
<v Speaker 2>are people not saying, like because if things were really
<v Speaker 2>being disclosed or leaked, why don't we know the nuclear codes?
<v Speaker 2>Like why does only certain things get leaked? Like I
<v Speaker 2>just I'm actually a skeptic and I question everything. I
<v Speaker 2>always question one is not being said, but just to
<v Speaker 2>listen to ourselves.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and weirdly, if you I asked the same question,
<v Speaker 1>and I would say you know, you see the people
<v Speaker 1>on there, people that I talked about are like Eric Davis,
<v Speaker 1>how put off the engineers.
<v Speaker 3>Of talking about the UFO stuff.
<v Speaker 1>And I say, what are they not saying? Well, I
<v Speaker 1>just go look at their scientific papers. It's like, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>what have you been writing that you don't say to
<v Speaker 1>Joe Rogan. Yeah, it's like all plasma stuff and like
<v Speaker 1>extracted energy and wormholes and warp drives, a neutronic fusion.
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even know what the hell a neutronic fusion
<v Speaker 1>meant a couple of years ago, and then I'm seeing
<v Speaker 1>them writing papers about it, and I'm like, Okay, maybe
<v Speaker 1>this is something we should look at it. Sure enough,
<v Speaker 1>you dig it and you're like, oh, it's all about plasma.
<v Speaker 2>It's all about plasma. I have the Academia app on
<v Speaker 2>my phone just to look up stuff like that. That's
<v Speaker 2>where the real news is.
<v Speaker 1>I can't let you flex me too much. You're like
<v Speaker 1>showing all your books off. So I got I got
<v Speaker 1>a little book here too. I don't have that one science.
<v Speaker 1>This is Mark Millis and Eric Davis, so pul science.
<v Speaker 1>In their late nineties, there was something called the Breakthrough
<v Speaker 1>Physics Propulsion Project that Mark Millis was the leader of
<v Speaker 1>for NASA, and it pulled in Eric Davis hal put Off.
<v Speaker 1>I think George Miley was a part of it, John Kramer,
<v Speaker 1>several other engineers, and they were looking at what is
<v Speaker 1>the next evolution of breakthrough physics, which includes they looked
<v Speaker 1>at ideas like the ether, warp drives, wormholes and the
<v Speaker 1>things that I've been mentioning, and they systematically like eliminate
<v Speaker 1>things that can't work from a physics perspective and things
<v Speaker 1>that can work. And I think people will be surprised
<v Speaker 1>to see the results. And what it takes is that
<v Speaker 1>I think you're going to find that plasma is the
<v Speaker 1>enabler of a lot of these types of effects because
<v Speaker 1>it goes to the root code, the root code of
<v Speaker 1>the universe is that the electromagnetism of plasma made interact.
<v Speaker 3>With that base reality.
<v Speaker 1>Now, I don't necessarily know how to describe it, like
<v Speaker 1>maybe it's I think my buddy Bob Green you would
<v Speaker 1>say something about like the relic neutrinos maybe are.
<v Speaker 2>Whatrins Neutrino's was the secret I'll talk about it at
<v Speaker 2>a later date.
<v Speaker 1>Talk about it now, because I was gonna ask you
<v Speaker 1>if the neutrinos what you would imagine to be like
<v Speaker 1>the ether or whatever.
<v Speaker 2>I didn't talk about this in my first book for
<v Speaker 2>many reasons. I eventually in the future will talk more
<v Speaker 2>about this, but I'm still working on some things with it.
<v Speaker 2>But one thing when neutrinos will just pause that everyone
<v Speaker 2>to start looking up. It's there are three flavors and neutrinos,
<v Speaker 2>and they kind of correlate with the roigbiv And if
<v Speaker 2>we were on a holographic screen and they were made
<v Speaker 2>of three flavors of ROIGBIV, they might have something to
<v Speaker 2>do with creating reality and plasma technology. In the future,
<v Speaker 2>I would look into neutrinos and I'll share more at
<v Speaker 2>a later date. But the yeah, there's a lot there.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how I know. This information just kind
<v Speaker 2>of comes through me, but I wanted to share, Say Nelson,
<v Speaker 2>what you just said, and I oh, well, oh oh.
<v Speaker 3>So.
<v Speaker 2>I think the reason I can tell the truth about
<v Speaker 2>a lot of this is I have never been contracted
<v Speaker 2>by the government. I don't work with anyone. I am
<v Speaker 2>on my own here. I am not sworn to any secrecy,
<v Speaker 2>and I think that I'm in the perfect time to
<v Speaker 2>do it. I don't think, you know, I think I'm safe.
<v Speaker 2>I think I'm fine, and I think that all this
<v Speaker 2>stuff is coming out anyway, and just so happens. I
<v Speaker 2>never signed a contract that I couldn't say anything. So
<v Speaker 2>I'm in a unique position where I'm not in any
<v Speaker 2>dogma of religion or science or spirituality, and I'm just
<v Speaker 2>sharing I seek the truth and I'm sharing that where
<v Speaker 2>some of these people like you speak of get interviewed,
<v Speaker 2>but there's stuff they can't say because they've been paid.
<v Speaker 2>And I make my money on my own, thank you
<v Speaker 2>very much, so I can say whatever I want.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, same with me.
<v Speaker 1>I think there's a certain freedom that comes with that
<v Speaker 1>that is liberating.
<v Speaker 3>You know, you can say whatever you want.
<v Speaker 1>But this is a part too that a lot of
<v Speaker 1>people struggle with this idea that could the government keep
<v Speaker 1>a secret?
<v Speaker 3>You know?
<v Speaker 1>And I go, well, how do you think they kept
<v Speaker 1>nukessecret for last sixty seventy years? I mean, stop nuclear
<v Speaker 1>testing in the sixties. What do you think we've been doing.
<v Speaker 1>You think we just stopped nuclear science too? No, but
<v Speaker 1>it's been we don't know anything about it. Turns out
<v Speaker 1>this is another thing you probably familiar with maybe not though,
<v Speaker 1>is that there was this idea of non fission ignition.
<v Speaker 1>What this means is in a thermo nuclear weapon, you
<v Speaker 1>take the A bomb, which is like what we dropped
<v Speaker 1>on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, big boom, and the A bomb
<v Speaker 1>detonates a fusion bomb. The fusion bombs in the middle
<v Speaker 1>of it, and the fusion bomb needs the A bomb
<v Speaker 1>to detonate it to get this this detonation to occur.
<v Speaker 1>So what they said was, well, we want to get
<v Speaker 1>rid of the A bomb part of it. We don't
<v Speaker 1>want that big A bomb part. We want to make
<v Speaker 1>just the fusion part called the clean.
<v Speaker 3>Fusion bomb, okay. And you know what they do to
<v Speaker 3>do that.
<v Speaker 1>One of the ideas is you make an electric detonator
<v Speaker 1>using plasma. The idea would be used plasma because plasma's
<v Speaker 1>not going to create a big boom, but it's still
<v Speaker 1>got this electric like a lightning bolt, and kind of
<v Speaker 1>the lightning bolts converge on your fusion target. And now
<v Speaker 1>you have a clean fusion bomb that doesn't necessarily release
<v Speaker 1>the big boom. It just does whatever a fusion bomb does,
<v Speaker 1>which materialize.
<v Speaker 3>This is the question I asked people.
<v Speaker 1>This is just like, if you want to know how
<v Speaker 1>brainwashed we are, what does a fusion bomb do? Anybody
<v Speaker 1>in the world know what a fusion bomb does because
<v Speaker 1>we the last nuclear weapon we tested was in.
<v Speaker 3>The sixties, huh and that's been it.
<v Speaker 1>We've never seen one ever since then. And I think
<v Speaker 1>people's mind would just be like, well, it's just like
<v Speaker 1>an like the A bomb, right, why is it like
<v Speaker 1>the A bomb? Because we say, so, what if it's
<v Speaker 1>a release of what would a release of pure electricity
<v Speaker 1>look like?
<v Speaker 2>Interasting that I'm going to look that up in.
<v Speaker 1>My own fun for your next book to which would
<v Speaker 1>be to look up the connection between look up non
<v Speaker 1>FISHI and ignition, and it's all about plasma detonated a
<v Speaker 1>fusion bomb, and that maybe something to look up because
<v Speaker 1>people should be asking that question, like hey, what does
<v Speaker 1>the fusion mommy or a thermonuclear repond even look like?
<v Speaker 3>Today?
<v Speaker 2>They should be You just actually really helped me out there,
<v Speaker 2>because so I had this I do not like the
<v Speaker 2>word channeling, but I had this thought. Right, I have
<v Speaker 2>this weird distaste for fusion and fission and people are like, no,
<v Speaker 2>it's safe, Like you know, you're talking about fusion's not
<v Speaker 2>safe like fish and safe. And then of course there's
<v Speaker 2>cold fusion, right, which is something different. But I think
<v Speaker 2>they spoke about this in fiosity too. But I just
<v Speaker 2>think that if we I know this is gonna sound funny,
<v Speaker 2>but if we more of people who are working with
<v Speaker 2>plasma first heal their own consciousness and are in their
<v Speaker 2>hearts more. It's almost like the Unicorn mythology, where the
<v Speaker 2>unicorn reveals her secrets to a pure maiden. A pure
<v Speaker 2>maiden is not a virgin. A pure maiden is someone
<v Speaker 2>who's authentic and in their heart energy and has pure intentions.
<v Speaker 2>And I think if we were to have those when
<v Speaker 2>we're creating with this plasma, plasma will reveal itself just
<v Speaker 2>like the unicorn and revealed its magic in ways that
<v Speaker 2>are more sustainable and work with our earth and are
<v Speaker 2>not going could hurt us all. And it has nothing
<v Speaker 2>to do with either fusion or fission. And I might
<v Speaker 2>look more into this in the future. But there's something
<v Speaker 2>else that we're missing. There's a third thing. There's always
<v Speaker 2>a third thing speaking about duality. If we're looking at
<v Speaker 2>these things, it's not there. It's just like black magic.
<v Speaker 2>Look here, and I'm going to do this over here.
<v Speaker 2>There's something we're not looking at, and I you know,
<v Speaker 2>that's something else I'm looking into right now. Is a
<v Speaker 2>third third thing.
<v Speaker 3>I would recommend checking a neutronic fusion out.
<v Speaker 1>The difference between all those things that you mentioned is
<v Speaker 1>at first glance confusing, and when you start to dig
<v Speaker 1>into it, you realize that a neutronic fusion is like
<v Speaker 1>the thing that when we were kids that they would
<v Speaker 1>imagine like Jetson's energy being, which is like splitting the
<v Speaker 1>atom and you're pulling the electricity directly from it as
<v Speaker 1>opposed to doing a whole bunch more steps. And with fusion,
<v Speaker 1>there is no radiation re least with a neutronic fusion
<v Speaker 1>at least versus and fishing is the one where you
<v Speaker 1>would have radiation need all this radiation shielding.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so there is.
<v Speaker 1>And this is the thing, Like, that's another thing that
<v Speaker 1>you bring up, is like, is there this third thing
<v Speaker 1>we always think of like hot fusion, the token mac reactors,
<v Speaker 1>we think of nuclear energy, but we never even knew
<v Speaker 1>about this other these advanced a neutronic fusion fuels that
<v Speaker 1>you can use that have no byproduct, no negative byproducts whatsoever.
<v Speaker 1>They just don't even tell you about that, but you'll
<v Speaker 1>see references to it when you start looking in the
<v Speaker 1>literature for clean fusion and you're like, oh, wait, that's
<v Speaker 1>what that was. So to kind of round this out
<v Speaker 1>this conversation, here's what I would ask you. This is
<v Speaker 1>what I like to ask people, because people ask me
<v Speaker 1>this question, is that you know, what can we learn
<v Speaker 1>from plasma to expand ourselves?
<v Speaker 3>And why? Why is this important? Like why is this
<v Speaker 3>understanding of plasma, the universe, et cetera. Why does this
<v Speaker 3>matter for our day to day lives.
<v Speaker 2>There's so many reasons. I could give a hundred, but
<v Speaker 2>I think the most important right now is it is
<v Speaker 2>directly linked to what we're missing as a society. And
<v Speaker 2>it's very simple.
<v Speaker 3>It is.
<v Speaker 2>It kind of reminds me of the Star and the
<v Speaker 2>Fool and Tarot cards, even though I don't really know
<v Speaker 2>the much about Tarot cards. It is knowing your power
<v Speaker 2>and being yourself. It is literally that simple. It is
<v Speaker 2>remembering who you are, learning to be yourself again authentically
<v Speaker 2>without fear of what anyone's thinking. And funny enough, that
<v Speaker 2>directly links to plasma because and I go into my
<v Speaker 2>book about this plasma think of thermodynamics, you become more
<v Speaker 2>dense and wet to this plasma field. The more your
<v Speaker 2>self you are, the more you're feeling emotions and it
<v Speaker 2>can and the more you're coherent, the more you can
<v Speaker 2>actually work with plasma to create reality in beneficial ways
<v Speaker 2>you can live your dream life. And the more you
<v Speaker 2>also know about how plasma works in science and the
<v Speaker 2>dynamics of plasma, the more you'll actually learn that you
<v Speaker 2>cannot force reality to happen. But there is a certain
<v Speaker 2>surrendered I'm just going to say it. This is more philosophical,
<v Speaker 2>but it all will connect if you look up plasma
<v Speaker 2>and read my book as well. It is not about
<v Speaker 2>willing something to happen. It is about knowing the feelings
<v Speaker 2>you want for your future and following that feeling and yes,
<v Speaker 2>setting intentions, but then letting plasma or this mystery bring
<v Speaker 2>things to you in a way you could have never
<v Speaker 2>imagined beyond your wildest dreams. It is like anyone you've
<v Speaker 2>gotten in a relationship with you didn't just like will
<v Speaker 2>them into existence like you you were when the best
<v Speaker 2>things happen to us in life. It is when we're
<v Speaker 2>just being ourselves and things just will randomly come to us.
<v Speaker 2>That is the magic we're all missing, and it has
<v Speaker 2>all to do with plasma. Even though this might not
<v Speaker 2>make sense.
<v Speaker 1>Right now, so you have a you think that we're
<v Speaker 1>gonna make it then, because here's my problem. I look
<v Speaker 1>at this technology, this stuff, and more I've learned about it,
<v Speaker 1>it seems like it's unlimited potential.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, you spoke about it is basically
<v Speaker 3>like magic, you know.
<v Speaker 1>To me, So I look at it, I go, I
<v Speaker 1>don't know if we're ready for this, And ultimately I go,
<v Speaker 1>I feel like we're going.
<v Speaker 3>To destroy ourselves with this? Do you at all? No?
<v Speaker 2>I'll say why though? So Buckminster Fuller is a great
<v Speaker 2>quote that we're inventing all the right technology for the
<v Speaker 2>wrong reasons. I think, as long I do hope for
<v Speaker 2>humanity that as long as we all start to work
<v Speaker 2>on ourselves and get therapy and stuff, that we will
<v Speaker 2>not destroy ourselves. I think that we dream up our future.
<v Speaker 2>And I'm optimistic because if we're pessimistic, we'll dream up
<v Speaker 2>that future. So funny enough, the more of us that
<v Speaker 2>can create and imagine a better future, that imagining things
<v Speaker 2>is what brings things into existence. It's just like thinking
<v Speaker 2>something you kind of have always wanted and then the
<v Speaker 2>person calls you the next day. It's like, whatever we
<v Speaker 2>think comes true, it's going to make it come true.
<v Speaker 2>More So, I'm in the school of thought, not of
<v Speaker 2>toxic positivity. I hate that I have dark emotions all
<v Speaker 2>the time, but of dreaming up a more positive future
<v Speaker 2>by believing in humanity and ours else. Yes, there are
<v Speaker 2>very evil people out there, but evil's just fear. Evil's
<v Speaker 2>human created. So I am. My goal is to actually
<v Speaker 2>get in the rooms with these powerful people and remind
<v Speaker 2>them who they are. And I think that the best
<v Speaker 2>way to get you know, the best way to make
<v Speaker 2>change is not to demonize these people that are killing
<v Speaker 2>the world right now, and it's not to befriend them either,
<v Speaker 2>but it's to actually create change in them. And how
<v Speaker 2>do we create real change in these people? And that
<v Speaker 2>is what my goal is. But I have faith. I'm
<v Speaker 2>an optimistic futurist all the way. And the most important
<v Speaker 2>thing to learn about plasma that I'm which would go
<v Speaker 2>good with your audiences simply if you learn about plasma
<v Speaker 2>and science and the dynamics of how plasma works and
<v Speaker 2>dusty complex plasma with electromagnetism. You can learn the magic
<v Speaker 2>of how consciousness works with this more etheric plasma.
<v Speaker 1>Well, well, I'm not sure I'm as optimistic as you
<v Speaker 1>because I watch Ghostbusters and Staypoff Marshall and Man destroys
<v Speaker 1>everybody at the end when they started thinking about this,
<v Speaker 1>I was one that screws it up for everybody else.
<v Speaker 2>But that's what they're doing with a lot of like media.
<v Speaker 2>Is there. That's part of like the fear right that
<v Speaker 2>they're creating these fearful futures. But if we look more
<v Speaker 2>into like solar punk and optimistic futurism, and and there's
<v Speaker 2>even hints in all these movies the evil man when
<v Speaker 2>he's trying to use the machine, he always gets killed
<v Speaker 2>before he can use this like magic machine. And it's
<v Speaker 2>always the purity, the pure person of heart that can
<v Speaker 2>you know, use these machines. So I feel like love
<v Speaker 2>always prevails, but it doesn't mean bad things won't happen.
<v Speaker 1>Well, I like your view, Dana, I appreciate it, and
<v Speaker 1>I've enjoyed this conversation. So go ahead and shout out
<v Speaker 1>you know your book and where people can find you,
<v Speaker 1>because this has been really enlightening.
<v Speaker 2>Thank you Plasma, a new force, plasma consciousness and a
<v Speaker 2>new human potential. It is on Amazon. I sell a
<v Speaker 2>few sign books on my website Dana Kipple dot com
<v Speaker 2>and yes it was just Graham Hancock's book of the
<v Speaker 2>Month for uh January. And then I also teach magic
<v Speaker 2>classes the science of higher consciousness and I'm going to
<v Speaker 2>be gained into like edge physics and hinge physics and
<v Speaker 2>topology and how that actually relates to our mental health
<v Speaker 2>and plasma and consciousness. I teach just a bunch of
<v Speaker 2>random stuff on there, and that is on my Instagram
<v Speaker 2>Danta dot the Alien, and the link in my bio
<v Speaker 2>it is called a stand store, so you can or
<v Speaker 2>on my TikTok at Dana Kipple or my YouTube at
<v Speaker 2>Plasma Intelligence, so all the links are there.
<v Speaker 3>Awesome, Well, thank you very much.
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have to have you come back another time,
<v Speaker 1>maybe on one of my live stream podcasts and talk more.
<v Speaker 3>About plasma stuff. So yeah, it's a great day.
<v Speaker 1>And I guys, I hope you enjoyed this hard Shrews
<v Speaker 1>podcast with Dana Kibble. Check her content out, follow her
<v Speaker 1>on social media. Guys, catch us next time.
<v Speaker 3>Peace out, everybody,