Optimistic Orange | Using the Color Orange in the Garden

<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting from Studio A here at proven Winns Color Choice Shrubs.
<v Speaker 1>It's the Gardening Simplified Show with Stacey Hervella me, Rick
<v Speaker 1>weisst and our engineer and producer Adrianna Robinson. Well orange,
<v Speaker 1>you glad that there are orange flowers for your landscape, Stacy.
<v Speaker 1>This is a polarizing topic, the color orange. See. I
<v Speaker 1>think orange is optimistic, enthusiastic, it's bold, it's warm, it's
<v Speaker 1>attention grabbing. But for other people it's too bright and overwhelming.
<v Speaker 1>Some people have a visceral reaction to the color, tending
<v Speaker 1>to either love it or hate it. I mean, if
<v Speaker 1>you think about it, orange can cause you to think
<v Speaker 1>of road construction, barrels, prison jumpsuits, life jackets.
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, that's all good examples of orange.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I love the color orange. It's part of my
<v Speaker 1>Dutch heritage. Of course, as the Prince of Orange, William
<v Speaker 1>of Orange became the natural leader of the Dutch uprising
<v Speaker 1>against Spain. That was a long long time ago, but
<v Speaker 1>orange has been a symbol of national pride in the
<v Speaker 1>Netherlands four years. And of course when I've visited the Netherlands,
<v Speaker 1>nothing like orange, tulips or frittle areas. I love frittle
<v Speaker 1>areas or orange frittle areas with a backdrop. Got a
<v Speaker 1>picture for our YouTube viewers on that. And of course,
<v Speaker 1>at this time of the year, the orange color and
<v Speaker 1>tree leaves comes from the caratenoid pigments which are present
<v Speaker 1>in the leaves all year long. But then, of course
<v Speaker 1>when the green chlorophyll breaks down and fall, the days
<v Speaker 1>get shorter, colder, many of the trees turn a beautiful,
<v Speaker 1>beautiful orange. I was looking at sassafras trees the other
<v Speaker 1>day along the lake shore, just beautiful and I don't
<v Speaker 1>know if it's a fig leaf of my imagination, but
<v Speaker 1>it seems like the moon in October too. I was
<v Speaker 1>taking pictures over Lake Michigan the other day, almost has
<v Speaker 1>this orange color to it, so nothing like the color
<v Speaker 1>of orange in the months of October and November. Orange
<v Speaker 1>on the color wheel sits between red and yellow. So
<v Speaker 1>the question is does orange reflect energy or caution in
<v Speaker 1>your garden? And Stacy, for me, it's one hundred percent energy.
<v Speaker 1>I'm a guy who loves hot weather, so I celebrate
<v Speaker 1>orange in the garden. Orange to me feels like August,
<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite times of the year. And I
<v Speaker 1>also love mojave tangerine perse lane again because I'm a
<v Speaker 1>retired guy, so I can look at it during the day.
<v Speaker 1>But I love the color in my landscape.
<v Speaker 2>I'm too well, you know. I mean, I've said it before.
<v Speaker 2>I love hot, bright colors. And of course orange does
<v Speaker 2>have a lighter side, which would be called peach. And
<v Speaker 2>we've already done a peach show, yea, so now we're
<v Speaker 2>doing it's you know, Bossier Boulder Bigger sister. I guess
<v Speaker 2>I do love orange in the garden. I don't have
<v Speaker 2>a lot of orange in the garden, I kind of
<v Speaker 2>realized as I was thinking through it. Except for my containers,
<v Speaker 2>my prized containers. My favorite ones are a matched set
<v Speaker 2>of bright orange glate ceramic urns. Oh and that's what
<v Speaker 2>I usually put my vermilionaire in nice because that's a
<v Speaker 2>great combination, it's a good size. I love that those
<v Speaker 2>two plant those together. So yeah, I kind of built
<v Speaker 2>all of my you know, containers that I have around
<v Speaker 2>this pair of orange urns, and therefore all of my
<v Speaker 2>annuals tend to be orange, yellow, purple, or red to
<v Speaker 2>kind of go with that.
<v Speaker 1>And you bring that up, Koufi a vermilionaire has got
<v Speaker 1>to be at near the top of the list of
<v Speaker 1>orange favorites. Attracts hummingbirds to your landscape. I love that.
<v Speaker 1>This past year I fell in love with the Inca
<v Speaker 1>holland Peruvian lily or the austromerias. Now I have yet
<v Speaker 1>to see whether or not it's gonna overwinter in my garden.
<v Speaker 1>I'm hoping it does. But that color of orange is amazing.
<v Speaker 1>And as you mentioned, Stacy, there are so many different
<v Speaker 1>shades of orange, from pastel colors to bright oranges, and
<v Speaker 1>of course in fall the rust brown types of orange colors,
<v Speaker 1>pumpkin orange. It's a great color. I think it's playful.
<v Speaker 1>I love the pink orange color combination in the landscape
<v Speaker 1>in summer. To me, it feels exotic, it feels like
<v Speaker 1>Miami Beach. It feels tropical and playful. Orange and chartruse
<v Speaker 1>or orange and lime green can do that for me also.
<v Speaker 1>And then in fall, something that has become very popular
<v Speaker 1>or over the past few years is bright orange pansies
<v Speaker 1>with black pants.
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I love that very Halloween. Yeah, it's a great
<v Speaker 2>I love orange pansies. And you know you don't see
<v Speaker 2>the orange pansies in the spring, so much because spring
<v Speaker 2>they tend to favor the blues and purples and more
<v Speaker 2>of those cool pastel colors. So it's nice that orange
<v Speaker 2>pansies are finally having their day. They deserve it.
<v Speaker 1>You got it, They deserve it. Orange and navy together
<v Speaker 1>navy blue. Of course, I love blue, but you put
<v Speaker 1>navy blue with orange, it can kind of anchor the landscape.
<v Speaker 2>No pun in the Detroit Tigers.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, Detroit Tigers.
<v Speaker 2>You're right, that's what I always think of, what I
<v Speaker 2>think of a navy at orange.
<v Speaker 1>That's a good point. Orange and dark green. Pairing orange
<v Speaker 1>with emerald green brings energy to any space. Of course,
<v Speaker 1>orange and brown rust feels like fall.
<v Speaker 2>In the seventies and the seventies.
<v Speaker 1>You're right, appliant kitchen appliants.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And you know, like I'm sure everybody in our
<v Speaker 2>listening audience right now also has like an afghan that
<v Speaker 2>a grandmother or great aunt or someone crocheted them in
<v Speaker 2>the seventies, and it is almost invariably orange and brown.
<v Speaker 2>Adriana is nodding right now for the benefit of our
<v Speaker 2>listeners because it's such a widespread phenomenon.
<v Speaker 1>It's true, It's true. I think about the red, yellow
<v Speaker 1>and orange combination. And when I see red yellow orange,
<v Speaker 1>I often think of solosia. There's a twisted orange coxcomb
<v Speaker 1>or solosia that's available. But that color of red, yellow
<v Speaker 1>and orange together, of course, is fiery in the landscape
<v Speaker 1>always makes me think of silosia.
<v Speaker 2>Siloja, I would say, underutilized annual.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I agree.
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's a really cool plant, and I feel
<v Speaker 2>like it's kind of fallen out of favor. You don't
<v Speaker 2>really see a lot of people growing it. If you
<v Speaker 2>get lucky, maybe at a farmer's market you might see
<v Speaker 2>the big coxcomb silosia, which I think are the cooler
<v Speaker 2>ones over the kind of plumy ones. But those are
<v Speaker 2>great too. I mean, I love hot colors, so of
<v Speaker 2>course I love silosia.
<v Speaker 1>You bet you. In history, of course, the artist Vincent
<v Speaker 1>van Goh used a lot of orange in his paintings,
<v Speaker 1>mixing yellow and red to create unique shades. I should
<v Speaker 1>call him Vincent van grow We go way back, but
<v Speaker 1>he liked orange, and of course with orange, the complementary
<v Speaker 1>color on a simple color wheel is blue. So in
<v Speaker 1>your landscape, if you can combine orange with blue, it
<v Speaker 1>can make quite a statement within your landscape. And in
<v Speaker 1>segment four today will go down the list of some
<v Speaker 1>favorite orange plants that you can use in your landscape.
<v Speaker 1>But again, Stacy, orange is the color of road construction barrels,
<v Speaker 1>and life jackets and prison jumpsuits. Like I said, so
<v Speaker 1>for some people they just don't want it in their.
<v Speaker 2>Like, well, there's no hiding from orange. That's why all
<v Speaker 2>these things that need high visibility tend to be orange,
<v Speaker 2>because they really stand out. So that can be I
<v Speaker 2>think a problem for some people when it comes to plants,
<v Speaker 2>because there is no escaping it and it will grab
<v Speaker 2>all the attention. It could potentially be seen as you know,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, tacky or vulgar. I would never see
<v Speaker 2>it that way because I like bold strokes in the garden.
<v Speaker 2>But overall, and i'll talk about this in Plants on Trial,
<v Speaker 2>for hardy plants, there aren't really that many orange shrubs.
<v Speaker 2>It's true, definitely a lot of perennials, and we'll talk
<v Speaker 2>about this later too, But overall, for orange flowering shrubs
<v Speaker 2>that are hardy for those of us in cold climates,
<v Speaker 2>a relatively small number. If you live in a hot climate,
<v Speaker 2>you're spoiled for choice.
<v Speaker 1>Interesting I we'll dig deeper into that in segment four
<v Speaker 1>and look at some of those plants, because boy, this
<v Speaker 1>morning I was looking at my Kodiak orange der villa,
<v Speaker 1>and boy, that's beautiful this time.
<v Speaker 2>You know. It has been one of the reasons that
<v Speaker 2>we had the idea to do a show based around
<v Speaker 2>orange is because I don't remember fall ever feeling quite
<v Speaker 2>so orange as it does this year. And I don't
<v Speaker 2>know if it's because of our drought, you know, or
<v Speaker 2>in certain it's bringing out certain pigments, but like tons
<v Speaker 2>and tons of red maples out here over this year
<v Speaker 2>have just turned the most brilliant, beautiful, blazing orange, and
<v Speaker 2>I just don't really remember them being quite so orange.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think, I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>Maybe maybe it's a figment of a fig leaf of
<v Speaker 2>my imagine.
<v Speaker 1>There you go, but it's gorgeous. Well, I'll tell you
<v Speaker 1>what to tie into orange. And by the way, when
<v Speaker 1>I think of orange in the landscape, brilliant orange, I
<v Speaker 1>always think of poppies and I think of tuberus pegonias.
<v Speaker 1>Those two plants have some just unbelievably orange blooms. So
<v Speaker 1>for today's limb a Rick, I thought, seeing we're talking
<v Speaker 1>about orange. I'd make it a road construction limb a rick.
<v Speaker 1>Without you, life would be duller. Every day with you
<v Speaker 1>is fuller. You've got my attention. Even though you cause tension, Orange,
<v Speaker 1>you glad that I'm a color. You're far from anything sterile.
<v Speaker 1>You warn me of impending peril. I think you're hot,
<v Speaker 1>even though used a lot as a road construction barrel.
<v Speaker 2>Aw. Yeah, that was a very nice tribute to the
<v Speaker 2>color orange.
<v Speaker 1>Thank you. I like orange. Let's see how Stacey ties
<v Speaker 1>this in in plants on trial. That's coming up next
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<v Speaker 2>back to the Gardening Simplified Show, where we have one
<v Speaker 2>of our color shows where we're just talking about one
<v Speaker 2>single color and how to use it in the garden,
<v Speaker 2>whether that is with plants or infrastructure. Containers or anything
<v Speaker 2>like that, and that color today is orange. And you know,
<v Speaker 2>I was thinking plants on trial. I always tried to
<v Speaker 2>talk about one of the three hundred and fifty plus
<v Speaker 2>proven Winter's color choice shrubs. Tell you all about it
<v Speaker 2>so you can decide if you want to put it
<v Speaker 2>in your garden. And so I was looking through our
<v Speaker 2>selection of shrubs, and we do have some really great
<v Speaker 2>orange flowers in our line. We've got Double Take orange,
<v Speaker 2>We've got Happy Face orange, and there's also some roses
<v Speaker 2>of course that have orange and peachy type of colors.
<v Speaker 2>We've got orange foliage plants like you mentioned Kodiak orange.
<v Speaker 2>We've got Double Play candy corn, which is orange in spring.
<v Speaker 2>But overall, when I was thinking about the yes, I
<v Speaker 2>realized that our friends in hot climates are the ones
<v Speaker 2>who are really spoiled for choice when it comes to
<v Speaker 2>orange flowers. Because when I was just kind of creating a,
<v Speaker 2>you know, off the top of my head list of
<v Speaker 2>orange flowers, like I was really leaning into the tender stuff,
<v Speaker 2>like have you ever seen Pride of Barbados Sessalpinia pulcarama.
<v Speaker 2>Just a beautiful plant, you see it, It's hardy down
<v Speaker 2>to his own nine. So not party at all, basically,
<v Speaker 2>but you'll see it, I think like in New Orleans.
<v Speaker 2>You'll see it obviously in the very southern, most warm
<v Speaker 2>parts of the kind of us. Just an absolutely gorgeous plant.
<v Speaker 2>It is in the mean family, and the flowers are
<v Speaker 2>orange and red and have these long stamens. Some people
<v Speaker 2>call it peacock flower, even though it's all orange and
<v Speaker 2>red and it has this fine foliage. It's just a
<v Speaker 2>spectacle in a sight to behold when it's in bloom.
<v Speaker 2>Tropical Hibiscus, so many orange tropical hibiscus, especially in the
<v Speaker 2>Hollywood hibiscus line. Tacoma. We have chick lit orange tacoma,
<v Speaker 2>which is a plant that I grew this year in
<v Speaker 2>my annuals. Great plant for hummingbirds. Lantana extra Boogainvillia, Crossandra,
<v Speaker 2>Osmanthus fragrance. There's just so many orange plants.
<v Speaker 1>Bird of Paradise.
<v Speaker 2>Bird of Paradise great, one of.
<v Speaker 1>My favorites when I go to a tropical region.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Strelitzia. So if you live in a warm climate,
<v Speaker 2>plenty of options for orange. But if you live in
<v Speaker 2>a colder climate, uh, you're a little bit more limited
<v Speaker 2>in what you can grow, and I wanted to take
<v Speaker 2>a different obviously already named a bunch of our plants
<v Speaker 2>that do have orange in them, but today's plant on
<v Speaker 2>trial is something that's a little bit different. It's also
<v Speaker 2>fairly new. It is berry box pyrocomialies. Now you remember
<v Speaker 2>pyrocanther r oh sold in the right. So Pyracantha also
<v Speaker 2>known as firethorn, which what an awful common name. Whoever
<v Speaker 2>came up with that was not in my marketing. It
<v Speaker 2>was so popular, like maybe in the eighties and nineties. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>and you know, people grew it. It had thorns on it, obviously,
<v Speaker 2>so in spring it would bloom with white flowers and
<v Speaker 2>then those would turn into red berries, looking a bit
<v Speaker 2>like a mountain ash, which it's related to because they're
<v Speaker 2>in the same family, the rose family, And so it
<v Speaker 2>was really those berries that it was known for. Now,
<v Speaker 2>I personally have a very fraught relationship with Pyrocantha because
<v Speaker 2>this is really horrible, So a virture ears if you must.
<v Speaker 2>But when I was working as a landscaper in college
<v Speaker 2>in the summer, someone had a big pyracantha against their
<v Speaker 2>wall at the entrance to their condo, and I was
<v Speaker 2>trimming it with heads trimmers, and I cut in half
<v Speaker 2>a huge moth that I did not know was in there.
<v Speaker 2>Of course, I mean, of course I didn't know that
<v Speaker 2>it was in there, and so I'm just going with
<v Speaker 2>the with the hedge tremors, and then this thing starts
<v Speaker 2>flopping and I had just cut I couldn't even tell
<v Speaker 2>you what kind of like one of those really big
<v Speaker 2>hairy moths. So that's what I always think of. I
<v Speaker 2>kind of have this like traumatic response to two pyracantha.
<v Speaker 2>But this isn't a pyracantha. This is a pyrocomialise. And
<v Speaker 2>what that means that it is a hybrid between Pyracantha
<v Speaker 2>and a warm climate evergreen known as Osteomilees. And what
<v Speaker 2>that cross does is it conserves all of the great
<v Speaker 2>features of Pyracantha, with those numerous white flowers in the
<v Speaker 2>spring that turn into numerous orange berries in the summer
<v Speaker 2>and fall with a dwarf habit. So now instead of
<v Speaker 2>having that you know, ten foot tall pyracantha that some
<v Speaker 2>you know, college landscaper has to come along and slaughter
<v Speaker 2>a moth in, you have just like a little one
<v Speaker 2>that you can put anywhere in your landscape. And it
<v Speaker 2>doesn't ever need trimming.
<v Speaker 1>Beautiful.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it gets to be about two to three
<v Speaker 2>and a half feet tall and wide. It is hardy
<v Speaker 2>down to We list it as hardy down to USDA
<v Speaker 2>Zone seven with six B in parentheses. We have had
<v Speaker 2>good survival here in West Michigan, but I always couch
<v Speaker 2>that for other Zone six B gardeners with the fact
<v Speaker 2>that we do have a little bit miles or winters
<v Speaker 2>because of our proximity to Lake Michigan, and we have
<v Speaker 2>reliable snow cover. Because this is an evergreen, that snowcover
<v Speaker 2>can be really really important in helping that foliage survive
<v Speaker 2>the winter because it's got the insallation of the snow.
<v Speaker 2>Whereas if you're in like a Missouri or Kansas USDA
<v Speaker 2>Zone six B and you have really open, exposed winters,
<v Speaker 2>it might not be such a great choice. Then I
<v Speaker 2>would say it's more of a USDA Zone seven. So
<v Speaker 2>the asta Ostia made it smaller but a little bit
<v Speaker 2>less heardier, but it still has a lot of the
<v Speaker 2>great features of a pyracantha, which is to say, I
<v Speaker 2>think it has even more flowers than your standard pyrocantha,
<v Speaker 2>and they're really cool because they're quite small, but very numerous.
<v Speaker 2>They start out white, and then as each individual florette ages,
<v Speaker 2>it turns pink. So it's really like kind of a
<v Speaker 2>multicolor effect with the yellow stamens. It's really really pretty.
<v Speaker 2>And then those become green berries, and as the season
<v Speaker 2>goes on, they become orange berries, and it's a really
<v Speaker 2>cool effect. And again, because it does flower so numerously,
<v Speaker 2>this thing is just absolutely a little ball of bright
<v Speaker 2>berries by the time fall rolls around. Now here's another
<v Speaker 2>really cool thing about this plant. It's an orange show.
<v Speaker 2>So the berries are orange right now for Halloween, so perfect.
<v Speaker 2>As it starts to get a little bit colder in
<v Speaker 2>the coming months, it will turn to red. So it's
<v Speaker 2>like a multi holiday plant. Orange in time for Halloween, holidays,
<v Speaker 2>bread and time for Christmas. It's kind of like a
<v Speaker 2>win win.
<v Speaker 1>Now, do birds like the berries on it as much
<v Speaker 1>as I recall them liking the berries on Piratekantha? So
<v Speaker 1>I remember birds getting drunk?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, yeah, because they wait until they're softened and
<v Speaker 2>fermented at the end of the season. And that's really
<v Speaker 2>a win win. Okay, not because you can watch the
<v Speaker 2>birds get drunk, because they do get drunk because sometimes
<v Speaker 2>they fall out of the tree. Usually they're okay when
<v Speaker 2>they sober up. But so the good thing about that situation, though,
<v Speaker 2>is that they don't eat the berries in the middle
<v Speaker 2>of the season when you can't even enjoy them. You
<v Speaker 2>can actually let enjoy them all season, and then by
<v Speaker 2>the time they've been frozen thought, frozen thought frozen thought.
<v Speaker 2>By the time February March rolls around, they're fermenting on
<v Speaker 2>the tree and you don't need them anymore because by
<v Speaker 2>then you're you know, so deathtails are coming up, right,
<v Speaker 2>So everybody's happy, and it's just it's a it's a
<v Speaker 2>really interesting plant now it is. It does still have thorns.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we have to go back to the fact
<v Speaker 2>that Pyrocantha has that name firethorn because it is thorny.
<v Speaker 2>It's not like the big, super sharp thorns. But the
<v Speaker 2>cool thing about this compared to Pyrocantha, which again reaches
<v Speaker 2>ten to twelve feet tall and wide, because this is
<v Speaker 2>staying in that two to three and a half foot
<v Speaker 2>range as long as you cite it properly, you never
<v Speaker 2>really have to prune it to have to deal with
<v Speaker 2>those thorns, and you.
<v Speaker 1>Don't have to provide some kind of structure, solid structure
<v Speaker 1>like you had to with pyro.
<v Speaker 2>Cant absolutely, so Pyrocantha always needed to have some sort
<v Speaker 2>of lattice type structure. Yeah, this just grows like a
<v Speaker 2>nice little cascading ball kind of shape. It does not
<v Speaker 2>need a pollinator, so that's always a bonus too, because
<v Speaker 2>you don't need to have some sort of separate plant
<v Speaker 2>that you have to go by and find it's self fruitful.
<v Speaker 2>So you only need one, but of course you might
<v Speaker 2>want more. Yeah, that's confusing. Yeah, so this is self fruitful.
<v Speaker 2>You only need one in the foliage. So I said,
<v Speaker 2>it's an evergreen, and the foliage is a narrow and
<v Speaker 2>very glossy and leathery, so it really has a very
<v Speaker 2>different look than a lot of things in the landscape.
<v Speaker 2>And I think it's just a very very landscape worthy plant.
<v Speaker 2>If you live in USDA Zone six B, again, maybe
<v Speaker 2>a protected spot you can give it a try, but
<v Speaker 2>definitely if you're in zones seven through nine. This is
<v Speaker 2>a great, unexpected, really new choice for the landscape that
<v Speaker 2>provides great interest in spring actually year round because it
<v Speaker 2>is an evergreen. Now, whether it is deer resistant, I
<v Speaker 2>don't know, I don't know it has thorns, but of course,
<v Speaker 2>as we all know, roses have thorns and deer adore them,
<v Speaker 2>and it is also in the rose family. So my
<v Speaker 2>general guidance for people who are dealing with deer and
<v Speaker 2>are wondering if something new is deer resistant, if it's
<v Speaker 2>in the rose family, I would normally just say probably
<v Speaker 2>not dear resistant. So don't have any firsthand experience with
<v Speaker 2>that yet, but I have heard that the deer love
<v Speaker 2>plant in the rose ac so much because they're high
<v Speaker 2>vitamin C, so they are undeterred by the thorns or
<v Speaker 2>anything else like that because they're like, oh, this is
<v Speaker 2>so nutritious. I'm just gonna, you know, get prickled in
<v Speaker 2>my mouth and eat it anyway because I gotta do it.
<v Speaker 2>So that is berry box pyrocomiies, again a little bit
<v Speaker 2>of a different plant. It's new and there's a lot
<v Speaker 2>of interest. So I would also look forward in the
<v Speaker 2>future as a holiday decor plant, not having to worry
<v Speaker 2>about it as a landscape plant so much, but just
<v Speaker 2>to enjoy in the winter. There's a lot of potential
<v Speaker 2>for this one. So if you didn't join us on
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<v Speaker 2>and conundrums or celebrations. We always like to say, because
<v Speaker 2>you know, not everyone has fellow gardening friends in their life.
<v Speaker 2>It can get excited about little things that maybe other
<v Speaker 2>people in your life are like, what why are you
<v Speaker 2>excited about that? I don't understand? And it's always good
<v Speaker 2>to have gardening friends anyway, because you can.
<v Speaker 1>Share plants right exactly.
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's a it's a big split, your big opportunity,
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<v Speaker 2>ways to get in touch with us, even though of
<v Speaker 2>course the gardening season is wound down, if not winding
<v Speaker 2>down for most of us. You know, even in hot climates,
<v Speaker 2>these do go dormant, so you kind of get a
<v Speaker 2>little bit of a rest there. But thinking ahead to
<v Speaker 2>next year, you know, we.
<v Speaker 1>Dream and ponder three hundred and sixty five days out
<v Speaker 1>of the year, and you.
<v Speaker 2>Know, since we are here in about mid November, it
<v Speaker 2>is always worth saying if you have bulbs and your
<v Speaker 2>ground is not frozen, yes you can still plant them.
<v Speaker 2>I always want to get that in there because I
<v Speaker 2>don't think we're doing a bulb show this year. I
<v Speaker 2>will probably be planting my bulbs Thanksgiving weekend kind of
<v Speaker 2>a little tradition for me.
<v Speaker 1>So I've planted them as late as Christmas.
<v Speaker 2>You said, you've been out there with a pickax in
<v Speaker 2>a headlight, like an old miner, except bulbs. Your richness
<v Speaker 2>is bulbs.
<v Speaker 1>Sheep, close out bulbs. You put them in the ground. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>do what you gotta do.
<v Speaker 2>That's how you increase your collection. All right, So what
<v Speaker 2>do we got in the mailbag today?
<v Speaker 1>Nita writes to us In March of twenty twenty three,
<v Speaker 1>I planted a bare root, dwarf flat, wonderful peach tree
<v Speaker 1>in my Zone six pe garden in southeast Kansas. Either
<v Speaker 1>there was a mix up or it's really happy, but
<v Speaker 1>it's huge. I trimmed it hard this spring, as I
<v Speaker 1>wanted a small fruit tree I could pick fruit from
<v Speaker 1>without kneeding a ladder. It's doubled in size this summer.
<v Speaker 1>The trunk's four inch in diameter. It's never flowered. I'm
<v Speaker 1>worried it won't be able to tolerate a severe trim
<v Speaker 1>if I cut it back to make it small. Could
<v Speaker 1>I trim like pillarting the branches back to where I
<v Speaker 1>cut last year? Is it possible to get fruit and
<v Speaker 1>keep it small.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So the challenge here, Nita, is the same challenge
<v Speaker 2>with any with pruning any berry or fruit bearing plant.
<v Speaker 2>Normally these plants flower on old wood, and if a
<v Speaker 2>plant flowers on old wood, you would do that pruning
<v Speaker 2>after a flower, so like a perfect example would be
<v Speaker 2>like a forsythia or a lilac. The trouble is, if
<v Speaker 2>you cut off the flowers, you cut off the potential
<v Speaker 2>for the fruit to form, which makes pruning or cutting
<v Speaker 2>back anything that's fruiting, whether it is an edible fruit
<v Speaker 2>tree or an ornamental fruit tree, just like the berry
<v Speaker 2>box I just discussed in plants on trial or a
<v Speaker 2>holly or a kelicarpa or anything like that, is yeah,
<v Speaker 2>there's really no good time to prene it. You can't
<v Speaker 2>trim it like you would, you know, like an evergreen
<v Speaker 2>hedge or something like that to keep it small. And
<v Speaker 2>that's a real challenge what I would encourage you to do.
<v Speaker 2>Whether it was a mix up, I can't tell you.
<v Speaker 2>It's all possible a lot of times. When you have
<v Speaker 2>a dwarf fruit tree, the reason it is dwarf is
<v Speaker 2>because it was on a dwarfing rootstock, so the plant
<v Speaker 2>was grafted. Perhaps there was a mix up in the
<v Speaker 2>rootstock or something along those lines. It's hard to say,
<v Speaker 2>and I don't know enough about this specific variety to say.
<v Speaker 2>What I would recommend for Unita is that you look
<v Speaker 2>up the pruning technique of espalier. So normally, an espalier
<v Speaker 2>is a plant that you are growing up against a
<v Speaker 2>celid surface like a house or a fence or something
<v Speaker 2>like that, and you grow it so it's basically flat.
<v Speaker 2>But because it espalier plants are intended to stay within
<v Speaker 2>these very specific parameters, they are basically topped and then
<v Speaker 2>their energy only goes into those lateral branches that comprise
<v Speaker 2>the actual espalier itself. And that's what you're going to
<v Speaker 2>need to do, if you're going to need to establish
<v Speaker 2>a basic framework at the height that you want it
<v Speaker 2>to be and then basically cut off pretty much anything
<v Speaker 2>else so that you're kind of just building these thick,
<v Speaker 2>heavy branches that will bear your peaches without them going,
<v Speaker 2>you know, fourteen or fifteen feet up in the air.
<v Speaker 2>Look it up. It's fairly simple. It is a process
<v Speaker 2>that you will need to repeat year after year after
<v Speaker 2>year to make sure it stays that way, but you
<v Speaker 2>can't trim it. You can't pollart it because pilarting would
<v Speaker 2>mean cutting it back every single year, and that will
<v Speaker 2>eliminate its ability to ever set the fruit. In peach trees,
<v Speaker 2>I would say, as far as fruit goes, fruit trees
<v Speaker 2>go are one of the more ornamental varieties. The foliage
<v Speaker 2>is really quite interesting, but a peach tree that's not
<v Speaker 2>peaching is probably not having around.
<v Speaker 1>Highly desired nita. I'd suggest you follow Stacy's advice, and
<v Speaker 1>that is pruning after flowering. That's when I would do
<v Speaker 1>the pruning. And being in Zone six B, one of
<v Speaker 1>our big worries, of course, is in spring hard frost
<v Speaker 1>when peaches tend to get zapp and watching the weather forecast,
<v Speaker 1>so prune it. Go ahead and prune it hard, but
<v Speaker 1>do it after it's done.
<v Speaker 2>Blooming right, and avoid trimming like a regular like you would. Headshareser.
<v Speaker 2>This is more of aloppers and hand pruner's type of job.
<v Speaker 1>Pat shares an interesting photo and ask what is this?
<v Speaker 1>I found this growing on a honeysuckle at the back
<v Speaker 1>of our property here in Grand Rapids while cutting back
<v Speaker 1>some grape vines. My guess is its missile toe, but
<v Speaker 1>it's not native to this area. However, we winter in
<v Speaker 1>Texas where it thrives, and when we return there's always
<v Speaker 1>a few pine needles, sweet gum palls, and other residue
<v Speaker 1>around the hood and windshield area of our car. Is
<v Speaker 1>it possible we brought seedback within the residue that the
<v Speaker 1>wind could have carried to the host plant. Interesting?
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it is interesting, and it is not missletoe.
<v Speaker 1>Highly unlikely.
<v Speaker 2>No, no, in missletoe. It's worth mentioning as we especially
<v Speaker 2>as we head into the holiday season. Mistletoe spreads not
<v Speaker 2>by wind but by the berries, and the berries are very,
<v Speaker 2>very sticky. So when birds eat those beautiful red berries,
<v Speaker 2>they're like, oh crud, this thing is stuck to my beak.
<v Speaker 2>I guess I better go wipe it off on a branch,
<v Speaker 2>and in so doing they actually plant the missletoe seed
<v Speaker 2>into the crack of a branch and start a new
<v Speaker 2>missletoe colony.
<v Speaker 1>I'm just envisioning a bird saying.
<v Speaker 2>That, No, well, yeah, what happens all the time. You're
<v Speaker 2>just like, oh, well, they can't get this thing off
<v Speaker 2>my beak. It's so annoying. You got to go find
<v Speaker 2>a tree to wipe it off on so it doesn't
<v Speaker 2>spread by to.
<v Speaker 1>Go ahead.
<v Speaker 2>What you have is actually a gall that is formed
<v Speaker 2>by a the ohso appropriately named honeysuckle aphid. So not
<v Speaker 2>surprising there. It is a honeysuckle plant that Pat has.
<v Speaker 2>And there there's a photo here on YouTube if you
<v Speaker 2>want to look at it. And so basically what it
<v Speaker 2>looks like is that, yeah, the it was growing normal
<v Speaker 2>and then all of a sudden there's just this proliferation
<v Speaker 2>of growth and it's pink and it looks different. But
<v Speaker 2>it's actually a gall or a witch's broom. And galls
<v Speaker 2>can be caused by all sorts of different things. You know,
<v Speaker 2>there's moss, there's wasps, there's bacteria. It's it's there. They're
<v Speaker 2>actually quite fascinating. Gulls are If you want to, you know,
<v Speaker 2>have some fun topic of conversation for the Thanksgiving table
<v Speaker 2>coming up, just do some research into galls. And I mean, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>but in this case it is caused by the ephit
<v Speaker 2>and the aphid feeds on it, and it's saliva causes
<v Speaker 2>the growth to just go bananas like this and make
<v Speaker 2>these big witches brooms. It will not repair itself. It's
<v Speaker 2>not really a huge deal. The honeysuckle ef it obviously
<v Speaker 2>causes this, but it's not like, oh, it's you know,
<v Speaker 2>honeysuckles are pretty indestructible by and large. As far as
<v Speaker 2>I know, it's primarily an issue of the Japanese invasive honeysuckles,
<v Speaker 2>not you know, the decorative honeysuckles like Arkinsley's Ghost or
<v Speaker 2>you know, Sensation or Major Wheeler, all of those decorative ones.
<v Speaker 2>As far as I know, it doesn't really get that
<v Speaker 2>and you don't actually see the aph it itself. It's
<v Speaker 2>very small. If it's probably long gone by the time
<v Speaker 2>you see this, I would recommend that you cut it off.
<v Speaker 2>It is unlikely to flower, and like I said, it
<v Speaker 2>won't kind of alleviate itself on its own. But yeah,
<v Speaker 2>you've been blessed by the honeysuckle aphid and now you
<v Speaker 2>have a botanical anomaly to show for it.
<v Speaker 1>Oh the gall of those aphits and writes to us
<v Speaker 1>Hi Rick and Stacey. I purchased a Kinsley's Ghost honeysuckle,
<v Speaker 1>but it does not bloom. I'm in zone seven. I
<v Speaker 1>purchase the plant from Proven Winters. Can you advise me
<v Speaker 1>on how to get the beautiful flowers that I see
<v Speaker 1>on other plants.
<v Speaker 2>You know, I wanted to answer Anne's question here because
<v Speaker 2>I think it's really useful for all people who have
<v Speaker 2>bought something and been disappointed by it not flowering, you know,
<v Speaker 2>in a timely manner. And there is a quick three
<v Speaker 2>part diagnosis for you if you're wondering why something isn't flowering.
<v Speaker 2>The number one reason that things do not flower is
<v Speaker 2>improper pruning, if they were pruned at the wrong time,
<v Speaker 2>and that takes off the flowers. And by pruning I
<v Speaker 2>do mean humans as well as deer or any number
<v Speaker 2>of other critters that might nibble off your plants. So
<v Speaker 2>that's the most common reason that I see. Number two
<v Speaker 2>most common reason is too much shade. If a sun
<v Speaker 2>loving plant is in too much shade, they just don't
<v Speaker 2>set as many flowers, and therefore they sometimes they don't
<v Speaker 2>send any flowers at all. If they're very sensitive, some
<v Speaker 2>plants are a little bit more amenable. Number three maturity.
<v Speaker 2>A lot of especially when we talk about woody plants,
<v Speaker 2>need to be at a certain age before they will flower.
<v Speaker 2>Otherwise they're putting all of their resources into growing roots
<v Speaker 2>in their new home and not so much into growing
<v Speaker 2>leaves and subsequently flowers. Flowers take a lot of a
<v Speaker 2>plant's energy to produce, so if that energy is going
<v Speaker 2>to something that's more crucial at that time, it won't
<v Speaker 2>put it into that Your plant and you send a
<v Speaker 2>picture looks healthy and beautiful. I think it just needs
<v Speaker 2>a little bit more time to be able to get big,
<v Speaker 2>especially if you start with a little quart sized plant,
<v Speaker 2>which is what is mostly sold online. If you go
<v Speaker 2>to the garden center and buy a three gallon, you're
<v Speaker 2>probably gonna get flowers that second year. If you're starting smaller,
<v Speaker 2>it's going to take a couple of extra years to
<v Speaker 2>get up to size, but you can enjoy those years
<v Speaker 2>watching your hard work pay off. So thank you all
<v Speaker 2>so much for your questions. We're going to take a
<v Speaker 2>little break and when we come back, we're talking our
<v Speaker 2>favorite orange plants, so please don't miss it. Thanks for
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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Gardening simplify show as we celebrate
<v Speaker 1>the color orange and stacy, how about a fun fact
<v Speaker 1>on the color orange. The shade of orange on the
<v Speaker 1>Golden gate Bridge is International orange, which protects against rust
<v Speaker 1>from the ocean salt and moisture, and from the region's fog. Obviously,
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to run into that bridge. So the
<v Speaker 1>Golden gate Bridge painted an international orange. And the color
<v Speaker 1>was chosen because of the the frequent problems with visibility
<v Speaker 1>and fog in the San Francisco area, so it's safer
<v Speaker 1>for ships to see. And of course it complements the
<v Speaker 1>natural surroundings and the blue sky the ocean. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>it's gorgeous. The color was originally a primer that the
<v Speaker 1>Bridges consulting architect Irving Morrow, advocated to keep forest esthetic
<v Speaker 1>and functional benefits. Interesting, Yeah, I thought that that was.
<v Speaker 2>In Save the color paint too.
<v Speaker 1>You got it, You get it? Okay, So orange flowers
<v Speaker 1>in the landscape during Plants on Trial, you mentioned double
<v Speaker 1>take orange. That's a Quint's a quince.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I should have probably said that.
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's fine, but my point here is that is
<v Speaker 1>just such a stunning color when those quints are in
<v Speaker 1>bloom in pots in the garden center. People are drawn
<v Speaker 1>to it.
<v Speaker 2>They are. And you know, I love the Double Take
<v Speaker 2>Quin series because they are flowering shrubs of colors that
<v Speaker 2>you don't really see in spring. You know, we see
<v Speaker 2>a lot of yellow, we see a lot of pink,
<v Speaker 2>and olten mills are perfectly wonderful. But I love Double
<v Speaker 2>Take scarlet, that bright lipstick red. I love Double Take Orange,
<v Speaker 2>that bright, bright, vivid orange. And I have also heard
<v Speaker 2>that the Double Take Orange attracts Baltimore orioles, oh wow,
<v Speaker 2>because they love orange things. Yes they do. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>it's a very strange phenomenon, but that's why people put
<v Speaker 2>oranges out for them, because they love orange.
<v Speaker 1>I love it when they're out there in the landscape Baltimore.
<v Speaker 2>Rowland, Yes, yeah no, and when Double Take orange, yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Double tank orange. This past summer, I was at Walter's
<v Speaker 1>Gardens proven Winters Perennials here in Michigan, and they were
<v Speaker 1>promoting and I thought it was beautiful. The orange slices Spygellia,
<v Speaker 1>I pronouncing that spigelia, but spigelia. Okay, it's hardy to
<v Speaker 1>zone five. Those tubular flowers appear for weeks and then
<v Speaker 1>we'll follow the ground after bloom, but very popular with
<v Speaker 1>hummingbirds and it's long lived. Once established, full sun is
<v Speaker 1>recommended if you're in the south, maybe some filtered sun,
<v Speaker 1>but orange slices.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Spidela is a beautiful plant, native perennial, just absolutely gorgeous,
<v Speaker 2>but it does need moist soil, therefore it is not
<v Speaker 2>in my garden.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, got it. Super bells double orange calibricoa, that's a
<v Speaker 1>beauty we mentioned earlier. Kufia vermillionaire. That's just a favorite
<v Speaker 1>of mine. Blooms all season long and the hummingbirds love it.
<v Speaker 1>You mentioned happy face orange potentilla. What a great plant.
<v Speaker 1>But then when we look at cone flowers, and in
<v Speaker 1>recent years, all the cultivars of cone flowers that have
<v Speaker 1>been developed color coded orange orange you awesome, sombrero adobe
<v Speaker 1>orange cone flower fabulous. And then Stacy the juiced orange jessamine.
<v Speaker 1>Is that how you pronounce.
<v Speaker 2>It, yep, jessamine or i'd say cestrum, which is the
<v Speaker 2>scientific name. But yeah, kind of a cool yellowy orange color,
<v Speaker 2>but really beautiful flowers. If you live in a hot climate,
<v Speaker 2>I know we do have a lot of hot climate listeners.
<v Speaker 2>So some great choices for you. You know, I know
<v Speaker 2>a lot of times our hot climate listeners are like,
<v Speaker 2>you're not telling me stuff I can use. Well, I'm
<v Speaker 2>telling you I am jealous of all of the amazing
<v Speaker 2>orange flowered stuff that you guys can grow in zone
<v Speaker 2>eight and warmer underrated orange perennial I think is GM.
<v Speaker 2>Oh sure, you know, GM is a plant that I
<v Speaker 2>think is definitely about to have a moment, if it's
<v Speaker 2>not already having one, which I guess just depends on
<v Speaker 2>how much you personally like it. But there have been
<v Speaker 2>a lot of really cool, bright orange an orange adjacent
<v Speaker 2>GM's coming out. And that's interesting because you know, today's
<v Speaker 2>plan on trial, Barrybox Pyrocommalies is in the rose family roses.
<v Speaker 2>A lot of the plants that we talked about spyriea
<v Speaker 2>with orange flowers that are hardy or in the rose
<v Speaker 2>family as is GM.
<v Speaker 1>Oh nice. Yeah, So if you're keeping score at home,
<v Speaker 1>you're driving in your car listening to our radio version
<v Speaker 1>of the show or listening to the podcast GM of
<v Speaker 1>course spelled ge um yes, yeah, pretty simple, right, all right?
<v Speaker 1>Of course I love color Blaze Colius and to me,
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's intended to be as such.
<v Speaker 1>But the Sedona sunset colius looks really orange to me
<v Speaker 1>in the land.
<v Speaker 2>Is that the orange and purple one?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, it's just orange and kind of burgundy.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah to it.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love that one. And then rain Oh boy,
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I should bring this up or not. Daylilies.
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, there's plenty of orange daylilies, no shortage.
<v Speaker 1>It always conjures up thought of the ditch lilies. Yes,
<v Speaker 1>you know orange lilies growing in the ditch. But there
<v Speaker 1>are gorgeous orange daylilies for your landscape, like Rainbow Rhythm
<v Speaker 1>orange or Rainbow rhythm. Primal scream.
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna mention primal scream because that one is
<v Speaker 2>that is a plant that you are not going to
<v Speaker 2>walk by without noticing. It is a very showy, bright
<v Speaker 2>orange and it's called primal scream because the petals really
<v Speaker 2>open out like it's a mouth just screaming. So it's
<v Speaker 2>bright orange with a big open petal. And yeah, if
<v Speaker 2>you want attention grabbing plants, that is one of them.
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of attention grabbing, one of my favorites has always
<v Speaker 1>been in the Land. I've always loved red hot pokers
<v Speaker 1>in the landscape, and there are orange ones, Pyromania, orange blaze, Nipofia,
<v Speaker 1>or I don't know, people just call them.
<v Speaker 2>Pokersia myself, but I have that orange one, and yeah,
<v Speaker 2>it is an awesome, awesome plant. I mean, I loved
<v Speaker 2>defofia anyway, but that's a great choice. Another orange flower
<v Speaker 2>I head in my yard this year. Didn't even realize
<v Speaker 2>it was nasturtium, not one of your favorites. I realized,
<v Speaker 2>that's true. But great color, just beautiful, rich, pure oranges
<v Speaker 2>and kind of that blue foliage. So a little bit
<v Speaker 2>of that kind of contrast that you were talking about
<v Speaker 2>between blue and orange. Yes, the foliage kind of has
<v Speaker 2>hints of blue. And then I mean, I guess since
<v Speaker 2>we're talking about plants you don't like always got to
<v Speaker 2>talk about marigold's if you're talking about orange, I'm sorry.
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have it on my list.
<v Speaker 2>I know you didn't have it on your list. But
<v Speaker 2>classic orange right there?
<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, oh boy? Yes, And that's true. That's true. Well,
<v Speaker 1>I remember the nineteen seventies and nineteen eighties when we're
<v Speaker 1>selling annuals at that time, before we have the magnificent
<v Speaker 1>cultivars that we have today. But the Walleriana impatience flats
<v Speaker 1>of orange. Boy, was that popular, lots of people planted
<v Speaker 1>orange impatience. Of course, today, the orange ornamental peppers for
<v Speaker 1>fall are spectacular. There's Santos orange, Sedona sun. I purchased
<v Speaker 1>some this fall for decorating. Love orange ornamental peppers, and
<v Speaker 1>who doesn't enjoy dicing up some orange peppers from the
<v Speaker 1>vegetable garden for a stir fry, kebabs or a dish
<v Speaker 1>that you're.
<v Speaker 2>Cooking up in some Yeah, you know, I talked about
<v Speaker 2>it earlier this season. I talked about growing the habbanata peppers,
<v Speaker 2>and now they you know good by the way, Oh,
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad you liked them. I like them now that
<v Speaker 2>the season is officially over. We've had plenty of hard
<v Speaker 2>frosts here in Michigan, and I had to harvest everything.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that I have ever grown a more
<v Speaker 2>productive pepper. So habanatas they look like hobbinnero's. They have
<v Speaker 2>that same kind of big lanterning type shape and thin walls,
<v Speaker 2>but they're not at all hot. So they have the
<v Speaker 2>fruity flavor of a hobbit with no heat at all.
<v Speaker 2>And I tell you a single plant that I grew
<v Speaker 2>easily easily produced one hundred and fifty if not more,
<v Speaker 2>fruits on it. It is one of the most productive
<v Speaker 2>and prolific peppers that I have ever grown. Hard to
<v Speaker 2>find in stores, definitely when you're gonna have to grow
<v Speaker 2>by seed on your own, but a unique flavor and
<v Speaker 2>a unique plant, and just it's so prolific that it's
<v Speaker 2>it's ornamental and the fruits ripe into that beautiful, bright orange,
<v Speaker 2>so decorative. Yeah, I've loved that plant.
<v Speaker 1>We'll be honest with you. I ate them, and I
<v Speaker 1>was thinking, this is gonna be hot.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it really messes with you.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it messes it, but you know.
<v Speaker 2>And I brought them to Adriana to and she started
<v Speaker 2>eating them right in front of someone and they were like, no, stop,
<v Speaker 2>what are you doing? But do you think they're going
<v Speaker 2>to be hot? But they have not even the slightest
<v Speaker 2>bin of heat.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's really cool. My pretoria cannas were amazing this
<v Speaker 1>summer with bright orange blossoms. Loved it. And is it
<v Speaker 1>possible to get a brighter orange then butterfly weed esclept?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that is the classic. You look up orange and
<v Speaker 2>the dictionary exactly beautiful. Love that plant.
<v Speaker 1>I mentioned of course tubers, pagonia's and poppies prints of orange,
<v Speaker 1>oriental poppy. And then of course I've got another favorite
<v Speaker 1>orange that I love to grow, and that is just
<v Speaker 1>simply orange Gerbera daisies. They are fabulous, what a great
<v Speaker 1>cut flower. Fun in the sun, Stacy, Again, the color
<v Speaker 1>orange makes me think tropical Miami Beach, makes me think summertime, August,
<v Speaker 1>hot weather. So for me, my vote is yes for
<v Speaker 1>orange in the landscape.
<v Speaker 2>My vote for orange in the landscape is also yes.
<v Speaker 1>Wonderful. Well, thank you so much, thank you Stacy, thank
<v Speaker 1>you Adriana, and most of all, thanks to you for
<v Speaker 1>watching us on YouTube, listening to our radio show, or
<v Speaker 1>looking for us wherever you get your favorite podcasts. Have
<v Speaker 1>a great week. M