Dee and Jason from the Surely You Can’t Be Serious Podcast are taking a trip back to the unforgettable year of 1994! In this episode, they each reveal their Top 5 Songs of 1994, along with a few honorable mentions.From grunge to hip-hop and everything in between, they break down:
  • The stories behind each song and the artists who made them hits
  • The personal impact these tracks had on their lives
  • And how these songs left their mark on popular culture and shaped the music scene of the '90s.
So, grab your flannel shirts and Levi's 501 jeans, and get ready for some '94 nostalgia! It's going to be a fun ride through the year that brought us some of the best music ever.
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<v Speaker 1>This is Melissa Mingle, friend of the Shirley You Can't
<v Speaker 1>Be Serious Podcast. You start messing it up when you
<v Speaker 1>try to do too much.
<v Speaker 2>I know, I know.
<v Speaker 3>Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Shirley You Can't
<v Speaker 3>Be Serious Podcast. Jason, I bet with two words, I
<v Speaker 3>can take you back to nineteen ninety four. Ready, Yes,
<v Speaker 3>so bended on.
<v Speaker 2>I'm a loser baby.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I don't know if that's on your list. Maybe
<v Speaker 3>it's on my list, maybe it's not. You guys will
<v Speaker 3>have to wait and find out. But we are here
<v Speaker 3>with the top five songs from nineteen ninety four. Now,
<v Speaker 3>there are some caveats to this list. We have just
<v Speaker 3>finished with an epic run of incredible albums from nineteen
<v Speaker 3>ninety four, Asterix, nineteen ninety five, Collective Soul, and we
<v Speaker 3>are not choosing any of the songs from any of
<v Speaker 3>those albums. Those are off the table. And we also
<v Speaker 3>have covered at least one big album from that year previously,
<v Speaker 3>Get a Grip by Aerosmith, which has a lot of
<v Speaker 3>great songs on it.
<v Speaker 2>That was a big album for me in ninety four.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the elimination of that album probably cut your music
<v Speaker 3>catalog in half. From what you were listening to that year.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I told you that I wasn't really in the
<v Speaker 2>mainstream flow at this time, so I caught stuff. You know,
<v Speaker 2>my college roommates would play stuff. But I mean, when
<v Speaker 2>you knock off Green Day, you knock off Collective Soul,
<v Speaker 2>you knock off Aerosmith, you knock off Live, I'm suddenly
<v Speaker 2>reeling for good songs.
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, But as I've mentioned in our previous episodes,
<v Speaker 3>there were a lot of really big albums that came
<v Speaker 3>out that year, Albums from Soundgarden, from the Cranberrys, from Oasis,
<v Speaker 3>and some that I'm sure that we're going to get
<v Speaker 3>into today if I didn't hit it already on your list,
<v Speaker 3>and I see, I don't know what Jason has on
<v Speaker 3>his top five list. He doesn't know what I have
<v Speaker 3>on my top five list. And the way that we
<v Speaker 3>do these fun little games, if you haven't been here before,
<v Speaker 3>ladies and gentlemen, is we tease the song and have
<v Speaker 3>the other guy try to guess it. So we will
<v Speaker 3>do that with you as well. I will start describing
<v Speaker 3>a song, Jason's going to try to figure out which
<v Speaker 3>song it is that I'm talking about, and you can
<v Speaker 3>play along as you listen. Jason, what do you think
<v Speaker 3>nineteen ninety four were almost done with the year? What
<v Speaker 3>are your thoughts?
<v Speaker 2>Nineteen ninety four is the nineteen eighty four of the nineties.
<v Speaker 2>It's the convergence of all a lot of good movies,
<v Speaker 2>a lot of great music, a lot of great pop
<v Speaker 2>culture moments. I mean, there's a lot of interesting things
<v Speaker 2>happening in ninety four, and it was one of the
<v Speaker 2>very very last times, I think where the Internet was
<v Speaker 2>not having a major impact in people's lives and so
<v Speaker 2>you got your news from the TV or when you
<v Speaker 2>went and saw a movie, or you know, news stations
<v Speaker 2>and that type of thing.
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I mean, we just covered Collective Soul just
<v Speaker 3>the last week we had that episode come out, and
<v Speaker 3>I listened to Ed Roland talking to He was talking
<v Speaker 3>about how he talked to a record executive after they
<v Speaker 3>had been going for a couple of years and they
<v Speaker 3>weren't getting any support from the record label and Napster
<v Speaker 3>was starting to be a thing, and he said to
<v Speaker 3>the guy, He's like, what are you guys doing about this?
<v Speaker 3>You know, what precautions are you taking? And the record
<v Speaker 3>executive said, it's a fad. It'll be gone by next year.
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh.
<v Speaker 3>And Ed Roland said he knew at that point he
<v Speaker 3>needed to pull from the record label and make his
<v Speaker 3>own independent label, and that's exactly what he did, and
<v Speaker 3>it probably saved him. But yes, obviously everybody knew what
<v Speaker 3>was happening except the people in the record industry. And
<v Speaker 3>I told you, Looking at the chart topping songs from
<v Speaker 3>nineteen ninety four, I can tell that this is the
<v Speaker 3>beginning of the end as far as I am concerned
<v Speaker 3>for music, because you have got a slew of modern
<v Speaker 3>R and B rap, very like team age pop songs
<v Speaker 3>that were not my cup of tea at all. I
<v Speaker 3>still don't really enjoy them, but they became the mainstay
<v Speaker 3>of music and have been the mainstay of music popular
<v Speaker 3>music for the last twenty five years. But enough blathering.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, let's get into let's get into it.
<v Speaker 3>Who's gonna go first? Am I gonna go first? Uni?
<v Speaker 4>First?
<v Speaker 2>Why don'd you go first?
<v Speaker 3>All right, I'll go first? Okay, five? All right? My
<v Speaker 3>first song, I'm gonna totally blow your mind here. But
<v Speaker 3>I'm not even gonna start by talking about a Seattle band. Alright,
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to talk about a band that you and
<v Speaker 3>I have covered before on this podcast. They are a
<v Speaker 3>California band played on the Sunset Strip. The bass player
<v Speaker 3>wrote most of their songs, heavily involved with Heroine.
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, okay, big album. I had this album keep going, Okay,
<v Speaker 2>I sold it back to the used CD story.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, all right, So clue number one the song was
<v Speaker 3>composed by the bass player, who wrote most of their songs.
<v Speaker 3>Number three, I've already said cover this band before. Clue
<v Speaker 3>number four. This was originally a bossa Nova sounding song. Okay, okay.
<v Speaker 3>Clue number five that you composed it in ten minutes, Okay, okay.
<v Speaker 3>The lyrics were about lying to his fiance about his
<v Speaker 3>drug use, specifically deceit and broken promises is what this
<v Speaker 3>is about, Okay, okay, his fiance leading me here. I
<v Speaker 3>led you down the wrong I led you down the
<v Speaker 3>Primrose path on purpose. Who did you think it was?
<v Speaker 4>Well?
<v Speaker 2>You were setting me up for Motley Crue right there,
<v Speaker 2>a big album in ninety four where they had dubbed
<v Speaker 2>Vince Neil and brought on John carrab And so I'm like, okay,
<v Speaker 2>is this Hooligan's Holiday?
<v Speaker 3>I just start writing all of these things down. I'm like,
<v Speaker 3>holy cow, this sounds exactly like Nicky six, but it's
<v Speaker 3>not Nicky six.
<v Speaker 2>All right, y, I know what this song is. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>stop right there, because it's my number four. Okay, all right,
<v Speaker 2>I will pivot. Everybody, hold on to those little nuggets.
<v Speaker 2>If you think you have an idea, all you have
<v Speaker 2>to do is wait for two more songs and then
<v Speaker 2>and then we'll be back to this song. That's my
<v Speaker 2>startar It's fine, fine, yeah, all right, So let's do
<v Speaker 2>my number five.
<v Speaker 3>You're number five, all right.
<v Speaker 2>I'm actually dying to talk to you about this.
<v Speaker 3>Okay.
<v Speaker 2>I love this song, but I have seen it ranked
<v Speaker 2>as this band's worst song. I've seen fans hate on
<v Speaker 2>this song. I might get ridiculed for this pick, but
<v Speaker 2>I love this song. Okay, Okay, So again, this is
<v Speaker 2>a Sunset Strip band. Okay, this is a band we've
<v Speaker 2>talked about. This song was released at the very end
<v Speaker 2>of nineteen ninety four, Okay, and it's attached to a
<v Speaker 2>pretty prominent movie in ninety four. I actually called the
<v Speaker 2>radio station when they played it because I was like,
<v Speaker 2>holy cow, that's a song from a band that we
<v Speaker 2>have not heard from in a long time. Are we
<v Speaker 2>getting in an album from these guys? Like, what is
<v Speaker 2>the deal? I remember having a conversation with the DJ
<v Speaker 2>who was like, man, I so, but I don't think so.
<v Speaker 2>This is just a single that they just released and
<v Speaker 2>it's going.
<v Speaker 3>For a movie.
<v Speaker 2>But that's it.
<v Speaker 3>Okay. So we've got a band that's got a history
<v Speaker 3>we've covered before. Yep, they have this like single that
<v Speaker 3>comes out in ninety four. Yes, just a single, just
<v Speaker 3>a single, okay, keep going, okay, all right.
<v Speaker 2>It reached number ten on the mainstream rock charts, so
<v Speaker 2>it's a hit on the rock charts.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>A prominent member of this band left this band because
<v Speaker 2>of this song. So it's like the song that you
<v Speaker 2>could never talk about, Like they could never play this
<v Speaker 2>in concert because it caused people to lose their jobs
<v Speaker 2>in the band.
<v Speaker 3>Okay.
<v Speaker 2>A different member of the band was working on a
<v Speaker 2>solo project at the time. He was away but still
<v Speaker 2>an active member of the band. When he heard this
<v Speaker 2>song on the radio, He's like, I didn't work on
<v Speaker 2>that song. I guess I might be fired, And it
<v Speaker 2>turns out he was. Now. One of the reasons why
<v Speaker 2>I love the song is because I think this band
<v Speaker 2>does a great job of covers. This is a cover
<v Speaker 2>of an old song. So this song is notorious for
<v Speaker 2>several reasons. Number one, the title. The content is controversial,
<v Speaker 2>for sure, but there's an urban legend that a woman
<v Speaker 2>was stabbed and killed during the playing of this song
<v Speaker 2>when it was being played by the original band. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>all right, turns out that's not true. It was a
<v Speaker 2>different song, but they had just played that song.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, all right.
<v Speaker 2>That concert was the Almont Free Concert, which we've talked
<v Speaker 2>about before.
<v Speaker 3>I think I think I know what you're talking about. Okay,
<v Speaker 3>before you guess, I won't guess. Yeah, keep going.
<v Speaker 2>This song was written by the original lead singer, one
<v Speaker 2>of the most well known men in all of rock
<v Speaker 2>and roll. Yes, when he brought it to the guitar player,
<v Speaker 2>the guitar player is like, this is great, I love it,
<v Speaker 2>but let's turn it into a samba.
<v Speaker 3>Okay.
<v Speaker 2>So he added percussion, a little bit tambourine, a little
<v Speaker 2>bit of the owl, all that stuff.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, yep.
<v Speaker 2>Now, then back to the cover band, the band who
<v Speaker 2>covered this song. Yeah, this was the final single from
<v Speaker 2>this band until twenty twenty one.
<v Speaker 3>I'm pretty confident I know what it is. I didn't
<v Speaker 3>even honestly remember that came out of ninety four, But.
<v Speaker 2>A song came out and played at the very end
<v Speaker 2>of the movie an Interview.
<v Speaker 3>With the Vampire. Yeah, I know what it is for sure?
<v Speaker 2>What you got?
<v Speaker 3>So this song was originally by the Rolling Stones. It's correct,
<v Speaker 3>and this song was then covered in apparently nineteen ninety
<v Speaker 3>four by the band Guns N' Roses. The name of
<v Speaker 3>this song is Sympathy for the Devil.
<v Speaker 2>Please allow me to introduce myself.
<v Speaker 5>I'm a man all well and taste often.
<v Speaker 2>Around for a long long year. Man soul as around.
<v Speaker 2>Pleased to meet you. Hope you guess my name.
<v Speaker 3>D This is one of my favorite songs of all time. Now,
<v Speaker 3>I really like the Rolling Stones version better, but I do.
<v Speaker 3>I do like the Guns and Roses version. I thought
<v Speaker 3>it was great use at the end of Interview with
<v Speaker 3>a Vampire. But man, yeah, I'm shook. I did not
<v Speaker 3>know that this came out in ninety four. It's great, Okay,
<v Speaker 3>you surprised me. Yeah, very good, very good.
<v Speaker 2>So here's the rest of the story. On this way, right,
<v Speaker 2>Guns of Roses has been a train wreck from their inception,
<v Speaker 2>right right, okay, but this is what caused Slash and
<v Speaker 2>Duff to be like, we're out, We're done with this crap,
<v Speaker 2>and they eventually form a band with a lead singer
<v Speaker 2>from a song that we're gonna talk about here in
<v Speaker 2>a second. But Slash took this song as the ultimate
<v Speaker 2>slap in the face because he laid down a guitar solo,
<v Speaker 2>and Axel brought in another guitar player, a friend of
<v Speaker 2>his Wow, who played Slash's exact solo. So basically he
<v Speaker 2>copied him but replaced him on this track.
<v Speaker 3>What the heck?
<v Speaker 2>How do you replace a guy like Slash?
<v Speaker 3>Uh, you're Axel Rose.
<v Speaker 2>Exactly, Slash says when he listens to the song, he says,
<v Speaker 2>it's the sound of a band breaking up. But I
<v Speaker 2>love it to your number.
<v Speaker 3>Four, all right, number four.
<v Speaker 6>Four.
<v Speaker 3>It is a cover song. You talked about this. There
<v Speaker 3>may be songs that you're like mm hm. You may
<v Speaker 3>have given me the name of the song and I
<v Speaker 3>still don't know what it is, right, Okay, So the
<v Speaker 3>original artist we have talked about at least once, if
<v Speaker 3>not two or three times. Okay, the artist, the original
<v Speaker 3>artist would record a new album in nineteen ninety four,
<v Speaker 3>called Outside, and he would sing this cover song that
<v Speaker 3>had come out, you know, in ninety four while he
<v Speaker 3>was touring that album. Okay, Okay. The guitarists passed away
<v Speaker 3>in April of nineteen ninety three. The cover was recorded
<v Speaker 3>six months later. The title comes from a couple of
<v Speaker 3>different sources. One is a novella by Robert Heinlein. One
<v Speaker 3>is a nineteen fifty four DC comic book.
<v Speaker 2>Okay all right.
<v Speaker 3>It was covered in nineteen seventy four by a woman
<v Speaker 3>named Blue. The Lulu recording was produced by the original artist,
<v Speaker 3>and it went to number three on the UK Singles chart.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, hold on just a second, Okay, I've been studying
<v Speaker 2>up on my James Bond theme songs and Lulu sings
<v Speaker 2>the theme song to the Man with the Golden Gun.
<v Speaker 3>Guys, this is what we would say is foreshadowing for
<v Speaker 3>an upcoming episode on the Shirley You Can't Be Serious podcast,
<v Speaker 3>because Jason is putting the double O seven band of
<v Speaker 3>brothers back together again. Who was it last year or
<v Speaker 3>year before we covered Best of the Bond Girls and
<v Speaker 3>the Bond Girl Draft, the Bond Girl Draft, and then
<v Speaker 3>this year maybe next episode, next episode, He's going to
<v Speaker 3>be covering with those guys James Bond songs. Love it Okay, Lulu.
<v Speaker 3>Lulu's version went to number three on the UK Singles Chart. Okay,
<v Speaker 3>It gotvered again in nineteen eighty two by midyear, and
<v Speaker 3>it was covered by this band. Like I said November
<v Speaker 3>of nineteen ninety it was originally the B side to
<v Speaker 3>Space Oddity. As far as the song goes, the original song,
<v Speaker 3>the guy who covered it and his band, The guy
<v Speaker 3>who sang it, he had personal journal and he put
<v Speaker 3>it as number forty five in his top fifty favorite
<v Speaker 3>albums of all time. This guy was introduced to this
<v Speaker 3>album by then drummer Chad Channing. Is that name ring
<v Speaker 3>a bell for you? Okay? The band that covered it,
<v Speaker 3>we've covered before, but they had a different drummer when
<v Speaker 3>we covered their album. When they covered it, it was
<v Speaker 3>for an MTV Unplugged episode, but the singer actually had
<v Speaker 3>his guitar plugged into a fuzzbox. This cover version was
<v Speaker 3>number three on MTV's Most Played Videos on February eighteenth,
<v Speaker 3>nineteen ninety five.
<v Speaker 2>Wow, Okay, so it's clearly a song that I've heard.
<v Speaker 3>Six months after they recorded this song on this Unplugged MTV.
<v Speaker 3>The lead singer committed suicide.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so clearly it's Nirvana.
<v Speaker 3>Yes. The Robert Heinleine book was called The Man Who
<v Speaker 3>Sold the Moon, and the nineteen fifty four DC comic
<v Speaker 3>was called The Man Who Sold the Earth. Okay, d
<v Speaker 3>this is the man who sold the world.
<v Speaker 6>Spoke.
<v Speaker 3>So not everybody even knows what the name of that
<v Speaker 3>song is, right right, But after Kurt Cobain's death, this
<v Speaker 3>song kind of became his ghost song. This is the
<v Speaker 3>quote from Rolling Stone. This was a man with the
<v Speaker 3>world at his fingertips and he gave it all up.
<v Speaker 3>Interesting and Rolling Stone ranked this as the number one
<v Speaker 3>in the reader's poll of the greatest live cover songs.
<v Speaker 6>Not memes. This song.
<v Speaker 2>Love it, I love it? Okay. Well, moving on to
<v Speaker 2>more tragedy, let's go back to your number five song.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and your number and my number four four song. Okay.
<v Speaker 3>As a refresher, we have written by the bass player
<v Speaker 3>Boston Nova song I'm going to tell you It was
<v Speaker 3>composed in the front seat of Winnebago on a twenty
<v Speaker 3>five dollars nylon string guitar, and I have to wonder
<v Speaker 3>if if the Winnebago had some scientifically treated petroleum under
<v Speaker 3>the hood. I'm pretty sure they didn't have Shirley Temple's
<v Speaker 3>under the hood, right, So you obviously know what this is.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, this is Interstate Love Song by Stone Temple Pilots.
<v Speaker 2>They talked about how when they would travel, you'd have
<v Speaker 2>the van and like attached to the van, it was
<v Speaker 2>like its own thing, like a like a trailer where
<v Speaker 2>a guy could go back and be by himself and
<v Speaker 2>hang out or think or get high write songs, you know.
<v Speaker 2>So the title comes from the idea that Scott was
<v Speaker 2>in Atlanta while his fiance was in California, and that
<v Speaker 2>they would write these songs they were on the interstate right.
<v Speaker 3>I actually, on the way over here today, listened to
<v Speaker 3>our episode from exactly two years ago, Oh Wow, where
<v Speaker 3>we covered Stone Tiple Pilots Core with Brad Moore, who
<v Speaker 3>just got finished cover and Live with us. We seemed
<v Speaker 3>to come around on the fall on these things all
<v Speaker 3>of the time, and on that episode we had Brad
<v Speaker 3>Moore helping us. We had Kevin Davis's executive producer, and
<v Speaker 3>on that episode we had we had Jeff Johnson come
<v Speaker 3>in and give us the Shirley Showcase, and he gave
<v Speaker 3>us his opinion on those two albums that we were
<v Speaker 3>covering Core and Dirt by Alison Chains. But then when
<v Speaker 3>we started our nineteen ninety four albums, he suggested that
<v Speaker 3>we should put Purple on the list.
<v Speaker 2>We should cover Purple at some point.
<v Speaker 3>Dude Purple and super Unknown or Jar of Flies, those
<v Speaker 3>would be excellent matchups, all three, very very worthy. Absolutely so.
<v Speaker 2>By the way, yeah, there is no truth to the
<v Speaker 2>fact that Jeff Johnson does look like the weird guy
<v Speaker 2>with a long nose in this video.
<v Speaker 5>Okay, just putting that out there, Okay, okay.
<v Speaker 2>This was released as a single September ninth of ninety four,
<v Speaker 2>almost exactly thirty years ago today, and became a number
<v Speaker 2>one hit on the Billboard Album Rock Charts.
<v Speaker 3>If you hadn't had this on your list, and I
<v Speaker 3>thought that you might, But if you hadn't had it
<v Speaker 3>on your list and you hadn't gotten it, by the
<v Speaker 3>time I had gotten pretty far down in the clues,
<v Speaker 3>I was going to say the original name of this
<v Speaker 3>band was Mighty Joe Young, and I thought that.
<v Speaker 2>Probably would have gotten that would probably have shaken the
<v Speaker 2>cobwebs list.
<v Speaker 3>There you go.
<v Speaker 2>So that brings us to my number three. You're number three, Okay.
<v Speaker 3>Three. We just talked about the Unplugged Nirvana album and
<v Speaker 3>MTV episode, right right, Okay, two guys from a different
<v Speaker 3>band came to play with Kurt Cobain and the rest
<v Speaker 3>of Nirvana for that unplugged show. Okay, did you know that?
<v Speaker 2>No?
<v Speaker 3>Okay, they're brothers. Names are Chris Kirkwood and Kurt Kirkwood. Okay,
<v Speaker 3>haven't got it yet, No, I didn't think so. Okay.
<v Speaker 3>These guys started as an eighties punk band, and they
<v Speaker 3>were outsiders even for eighties punk bands. Okay, they were
<v Speaker 3>never really famous. They had a big underground following. Got
<v Speaker 3>formed in seventy nine and started off as hardcore punk.
<v Speaker 3>But then they they did a very unique thing. They
<v Speaker 3>mixed country and punk and came up with their own sound.
<v Speaker 3>And they don't sound like anything else.
<v Speaker 2>Country and punk. This is not going to be my genre.
<v Speaker 3>I have a feeling. I have a feeling. You're right,
<v Speaker 3>But I know that you're going to know this song
<v Speaker 3>that I'm talking about. It came out in ninety four.
<v Speaker 3>So these two brothers in this band playing with Kurt
<v Speaker 3>Cobain in ninety three, they cover one of this band's songs.
<v Speaker 3>Kurt Cobain sings this song, and just like Man Who
<v Speaker 3>Sold the World, this song becomes well known despite the
<v Speaker 3>fact that it was not particularly well known back when
<v Speaker 3>they did it in the eighties. Okay, they opened for
<v Speaker 3>Nirvana in there in Utero tour, and that's how Kurt
<v Speaker 3>Cobain said, why don't you guys come and play with
<v Speaker 3>us on MTV Unplugged. I'm gonna play you the version
<v Speaker 3>of their song that Nirvana played on Unplugged. You ready, sure?
<v Speaker 4>Many Ham skilled the Gramdle phrase of the Plants song
<v Speaker 4>belong with strangers.
<v Speaker 3>Some folks, you know, holy don't recognize that song.
<v Speaker 2>Nothing is hitting me at this moment.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's okay, because that's not the song that I'm
<v Speaker 3>talking about these guys, as I said, nobody really not
<v Speaker 3>many people paying attention to this band. Okay. But there
<v Speaker 3>they are, with Nirvana at their absolute peak, playing a
<v Speaker 3>cover of one of their songs. And then in ninety
<v Speaker 3>four they come out with another song. Now, before I
<v Speaker 3>play you that song, I want you to I want
<v Speaker 3>you to hear how bad the original version of that
<v Speaker 3>song that you just listen to.
<v Speaker 6>Is still grandle.
<v Speaker 4>It's the Plato some strangers and some folks.
<v Speaker 2>You're making my ears bleed. D. That's horrible. D.
<v Speaker 3>It's really pretty bad. It's really pretty bad. And these guys,
<v Speaker 3>I mean, the singer so much as said I was
<v Speaker 3>trying to offend people. I was trying to get people
<v Speaker 3>scared away, okay, And still somehow people just kept coming
<v Speaker 3>to see our show. Okay. They came out with an
<v Speaker 3>album new album in nineteen ninety four, and that's where
<v Speaker 3>this song that I'm talking about comes from. You're not
<v Speaker 3>even going to recognize this as the same band. Here
<v Speaker 3>it is, okay, you ready? Yes, I'm playing you the song.
<v Speaker 3>This is the this is the song.
<v Speaker 7>You ready?
<v Speaker 6>And when I wake up in the morning to feel
<v Speaker 6>the day on my face? Okay?
<v Speaker 2>D I did I do recognize that song? That song
<v Speaker 2>is called Backwater by the Meat Puppets.
<v Speaker 3>That's right. I mean I can't imagine, like I literally
<v Speaker 3>I had to go, is this the same guys?
<v Speaker 2>That does not sound like the same thing, doesn't.
<v Speaker 3>Sound the same at all? Right, I mean they have
<v Speaker 3>made and clear.
<v Speaker 7>Yes, it's good. It's really really good.
<v Speaker 3>Like I I came across them because of Lake of Fire,
<v Speaker 3>and I'm looking all these things from ninety four and
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, oh, these guys had something in ninety four.
<v Speaker 7>I pull it.
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, oh, I loved this song and I had
<v Speaker 3>just kind of forgotten it. But then as i'm you know,
<v Speaker 3>I made a playlist of these songs and threw it
<v Speaker 3>into the mix, and I'm like, crap, this is really good.
<v Speaker 2>This is a good song. I like, that is way
<v Speaker 2>better than that other crap thing you played for me.
<v Speaker 3>So's the here's the rest of the story. Okay, these
<v Speaker 3>guys who've been the underdogs their whole lives suddenly have
<v Speaker 3>this very successful song.
<v Speaker 6>They may see the back.
<v Speaker 3>They get lots of money, and Chris Kirkwood starts shooting
<v Speaker 3>up Heroin as much as he can, right because why
<v Speaker 3>they almost immediately start falling apart because of his Heroin
<v Speaker 3>use and his brother was he described as He's like,
<v Speaker 3>it's like seeing someone on an iceberg floating away from you,
<v Speaker 3>like you just you see it and you know what's happening,
<v Speaker 3>but there's nothing that you can do about it. And
<v Speaker 3>he was shooting up with his wife at the time.
<v Speaker 3>Then within just a few months, his mother dies of cancer.
<v Speaker 3>And then his wife dies of an infection that she
<v Speaker 3>gets from the shooting up heroin right, and so he
<v Speaker 3>absolutely loses it. He says, I took a nose dive
<v Speaker 3>into the abyss. He was done with life, he was
<v Speaker 3>ready to be finished. He goes into a post office
<v Speaker 3>and starts harassing the security guard. Eventually the security guard
<v Speaker 3>forces him out the door, at which point he grew
<v Speaker 3>abs the security guard's baton and starts to hit him
<v Speaker 3>with it. So the security guard shoots him.
<v Speaker 2>Death by security guard.
<v Speaker 3>He did not die, but he did go to prison,
<v Speaker 3>and he went to prison for a while. He had
<v Speaker 3>been in prison before, and so this was like strike
<v Speaker 3>two or three or four for him. So he went
<v Speaker 3>to prison for a while, and in an unusual turn
<v Speaker 3>of events, prison actually helped him and he got out,
<v Speaker 3>He got clean, and the meat puppets got back together,
<v Speaker 3>still together today.
<v Speaker 2>That's an interesting story. You have that one out. That's
<v Speaker 2>a good one. Okay, I like it.
<v Speaker 3>I like it. Okay, my number three, we're to your
<v Speaker 3>number three.
<v Speaker 2>All right. Okay. The details of this song are gonna
<v Speaker 2>make it hard for me to disguise it, because I
<v Speaker 2>think it's a pretty well known story.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So this band went from bouncing around in the
<v Speaker 2>Southeast to world wide dominance in ninety four. Literally they
<v Speaker 2>would sell demos out of the back of their car
<v Speaker 2>from like eighty nine to ninety four, and then the
<v Speaker 2>album that they released in ninety four goes twenty two
<v Speaker 2>times platinum. Wow, it's one of the biggest selling albums
<v Speaker 2>of the nineties. Okay, now get this. They were heard
<v Speaker 2>on the radio by David Letterman on a Tuesday, David
<v Speaker 2>Letterman's driving home whatever radio station in New York City plays, Hey,
<v Speaker 2>here's a band out of the South. We think this
<v Speaker 2>song's pretty good. See what you think.
<v Speaker 3>Okay.
<v Speaker 2>Letterman is thunderstruck. He pulls over, he calls his people,
<v Speaker 2>and he says, I want this band to play on
<v Speaker 2>the Late show. Get him in here.
<v Speaker 3>Okay.
<v Speaker 2>So that's a Tuesday. On Friday night they played David
<v Speaker 2>Letterman and go on to become one of the biggest
<v Speaker 2>bands in the world. In ninety four. David Crosby from Crosby's,
<v Speaker 2>Stills and Nash sings back up on this song. And
<v Speaker 2>there is a special version made for Sesame Street teaching
<v Speaker 2>kids to hold hands within a while crossing the street.
<v Speaker 3>So this is Hooty and the Blowfish, hold my Hand.
<v Speaker 6>With a little love, and sometiens.
<v Speaker 8>Water Borah the miss with a little Piers.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay, so this song to me is irresistible. I
<v Speaker 2>don't care who you are if this song doesn't make
<v Speaker 2>you smile a little bit happier, it makes you tap
<v Speaker 2>your feet. It's so great and it's so sort of
<v Speaker 2>squeaky clean that it's for everybody. Like my grandmother would
<v Speaker 2>love this song.
<v Speaker 3>Right Cracked rear View, the album that this song comes
<v Speaker 3>from was one of my staples in nineteen ninety four
<v Speaker 3>nineteen ninety five.
<v Speaker 2>If we don't cover this, what are we doing?
<v Speaker 3>We're not doing the right thing.
<v Speaker 2>If we don't right, we got to cover that. D
<v Speaker 2>Do you want to hear the top ten from February eighteenth,
<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety five.
<v Speaker 3>Normally I say yes to this question, but knowing how
<v Speaker 3>bad the top ten was on a routine basis in
<v Speaker 3>nineteen ninety four nineteen ninety five, I shudder to think
<v Speaker 3>what beat this song out?
<v Speaker 2>Brace yourself? Okay, I'm ready number nine suki Yaki by
<v Speaker 2>four pm? What do you remember that one? No better
<v Speaker 2>than hold my Hand? By What What? Number eight always
<v Speaker 2>by bon Jovi. Okay, it's kind of a big sugary
<v Speaker 2>song from bon Jovi.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Number seven Candy Rain by Soul for Rain, ring a.
<v Speaker 3>Bell, not a bit.
<v Speaker 2>Number six You Gotta Be by Desiree.
<v Speaker 3>Nope, you would know that one, okay.
<v Speaker 2>Number five Baby by Brandy.
<v Speaker 9>No.
<v Speaker 2>Number four Another Night by the Real McCoy still now,
<v Speaker 2>number three on Bended Knee by Boys to Men.
<v Speaker 3>That was everywhere, so I at least know that song.
<v Speaker 2>Number two Take a Bow My Madonna, not one of
<v Speaker 2>our best. And number one Creep by TLC.
<v Speaker 3>The wrong version of creep.
<v Speaker 2>Right there were three creeps in ninety five and they
<v Speaker 2>picked the wrong one. That's a whole ton of sugar,
<v Speaker 2>right there.
<v Speaker 5>Man, Yeah, Oh my gosh, I love hold my hand,
<v Speaker 5>I love it.
<v Speaker 3>It's it's a fantastic one.
<v Speaker 2>Great choice, all right, d Let's move on to your
<v Speaker 2>number two.
<v Speaker 3>Two. Okay, this one, I doubt is one of your
<v Speaker 3>favorite songs. Okay, but it's monumental.
<v Speaker 2>If it's monumental, then I'm ready for it.
<v Speaker 3>Let's do this, all right. The singer who is really
<v Speaker 3>the whole band on this one is now a composer
<v Speaker 3>for many movies, including a Disney Pixar movie.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, just Danny Elfman. We're not in Danny Elfman territory.
<v Speaker 3>Art is not Danny Elfink. Okay. It is also not
<v Speaker 3>Alice Silvestri.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, it's Hans Zimmer all right.
<v Speaker 3>So the band's first album came out in nineteen eighty nine.
<v Speaker 3>It was not I don't think either one of us
<v Speaker 3>had it on our list in eighty nine. Okay, all right,
<v Speaker 3>The group is currently now, I say in the group.
<v Speaker 3>His group is currently creating a soundtrack to the next
<v Speaker 3>Tron movie. Oh so that's exciting. In nineteen ninety seven,
<v Speaker 3>this guy lead singer for this band was described by
<v Speaker 3>Spin magazine I'm quoting here as the most vital artist
<v Speaker 3>in music.
<v Speaker 2>Wow, what a high compliment.
<v Speaker 3>Then, right, So this album came out in nineteen ninety four,
<v Speaker 3>and I'm going I'm gonna spin out of control on
<v Speaker 3>this a little bit here, so forgive me. But okay,
<v Speaker 3>at the time that this album was recorded, okay, the
<v Speaker 3>artist was living at one zero zero five zero Celio Drive,
<v Speaker 3>Benedict Canyon, La. That address mean anything to you. It
<v Speaker 3>was the site of the murder of Sharing Hate. What
<v Speaker 3>was her old house, Roman Polanski's old house.
<v Speaker 2>Okay.
<v Speaker 3>It had been converted into a studio and they were
<v Speaker 3>using it such to record this album. I'm on the
<v Speaker 3>hook and he's living there in the house. Recording in
<v Speaker 3>the House.
<v Speaker 2>Helter Skelter was written on the walls of this place
<v Speaker 2>in blood Gosh, Okay, keep going Okay.
<v Speaker 3>This song is built around a heavily modified sample of
<v Speaker 3>the bass drum from Iggy Pop's Nightclubbing. Okay, I'll play
<v Speaker 3>that for you in a second. First, I'm gonna tell
<v Speaker 3>you this. People think it's about lust, but it's really
<v Speaker 3>about self hatred and obsession. Comes from the same This
<v Speaker 3>band comes from the same record label as Bush Innerscope
<v Speaker 3>throw Back to Our Bush sixteen Stone and Revenge of
<v Speaker 3>the Nerds Revenge of the Nerds Tedfield's Innerscope Records. Okay.
<v Speaker 3>This song reached number forty one on the Hot one hundred. Okay.
<v Speaker 3>The video was shot inside of an abandoned hospital and
<v Speaker 3>was made to look like a nineteenth nineteenth century mad
<v Speaker 3>scientist lap Okay yep. It was directed by Mark Romanek,
<v Speaker 3>who later directed a Johnny Cash video that covered a
<v Speaker 3>different song from this same album. Okay, I'm going to
<v Speaker 3>play you the bass drum from Iggy Pop's Nightclubbing. Okay, Okay,
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't quite get you there. It was very modified.
<v Speaker 2>The only time I remember us talking about a Johnny
<v Speaker 2>Cash cover, ye is when we talked about Depeche Mode.
<v Speaker 3>The depeche Mode Personal Jesus was the B side to
<v Speaker 3>that single of the Johnny Cash cover of the song
<v Speaker 3>from this album that is not this song.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Wow, monumental and vital artists keep going.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, and I'm going to talk more here in just
<v Speaker 3>a minute about Johnny Cash because this is just too
<v Speaker 3>good not to talk about. But for now, let's stay
<v Speaker 3>focused on this particular song. Oka. Right, as I mentioned,
<v Speaker 3>people think it's about lust, but it's really about self hatred. Okay.
<v Speaker 3>The composer and the singer and lead of this band,
<v Speaker 3>I said, he composed the music for a Pixar movie.
<v Speaker 3>That Pixar movie was called Soul. He's also composed the
<v Speaker 3>music for a whole lot of David Fincher movies.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So clearly we're talking about Trent Reznor and Nine
<v Speaker 2>Inch Nails. Yes, this has to be the song that
<v Speaker 2>they play at the very beginning of the movie seven
<v Speaker 2>and that song is called Closer.
<v Speaker 6>Viol Give Me.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, he changed the face of music with that song.
<v Speaker 3>He did. He brought industrial to the mainstream. I mean,
<v Speaker 3>obviously standing on the shoulders of guys like depeche Mode. Obviously. Okay,
<v Speaker 3>But I had to say that I had to talk
<v Speaker 3>about this, all right. So Johnny Cash's album that came
<v Speaker 3>out that year, nineteen ninety four, since we're talking about it,
<v Speaker 3>I just got to throw this out there. It was
<v Speaker 3>released three weeks after Kurt Compayne's death. The song that
<v Speaker 3>you probably remember from that album is Delia's Gone, which
<v Speaker 3>is a song about the murder of a fourteen year
<v Speaker 3>old girl back in like nineteen hundred on Christmas Day
<v Speaker 3>by her boyfriend. But the quote, the line, the line
<v Speaker 3>from the Johnny Cash song that totally caught me off
<v Speaker 3>guard in nineteen eight ninety four was and it's from
<v Speaker 3>the perspective of her murderer, right, Johnny is singing as
<v Speaker 3>her murderer, he said, talking about her evil. He says,
<v Speaker 3>kind of evil make me want to grab my submachine. Like,
<v Speaker 3>why is Johnny Cash singing these kind of gangster lyrics? Okay?
<v Speaker 3>So I mentioned that Johnny Cash covered another song from
<v Speaker 3>this album. That one was on American four The Man
<v Speaker 3>Comes Around, which came out in two thousand and one,
<v Speaker 3>last album to be released while he was still alive.
<v Speaker 3>The video, as I mentioned, was directed by Mark Romanek,
<v Speaker 3>who had directed Closer Okay. That video was named Video
<v Speaker 3>of the Year by the Grammys and by the CMAS,
<v Speaker 3>and is named Best Video of All Time by n ME.
<v Speaker 3>When the reps from Johnny Cash first came to Trent
<v Speaker 3>Reznor with this idea of him covering Hurt name of
<v Speaker 3>the song okay, Trent Resnor said, I was flattered, but
<v Speaker 3>I thought it was going to be gimmicky. Eventually they
<v Speaker 3>record it, they send it to him, and these are
<v Speaker 3>his words. He said, when I heard it, I felt
<v Speaker 3>like I is watching my girlfriend looking somebody else. Okay.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>It was made him uncomfortable because he said, this song
<v Speaker 3>came Hurt came from a very deep and personal place
<v Speaker 3>for him. Right. And then a month, two months, three
<v Speaker 3>months later, he is recording with Zach Dala Roche from
<v Speaker 3>Rage against the Machine and he gets sent the DVD
<v Speaker 3>of the video. He puts the video on and these
<v Speaker 3>are his words. Wow, tears swelling, silence, goosebumps. Wow, I
<v Speaker 3>just lost my girlfriend because that song isn't mine anymore.
<v Speaker 2>Right, very good.
<v Speaker 3>So here's Johnny Cash's version of hurt.
<v Speaker 4>I hurt myself today to see it first till feel.
<v Speaker 7>Focus know on.
<v Speaker 3>Then that's coming from a guy who knows the end
<v Speaker 3>is in sight and is new and everything he can
<v Speaker 3>to record everything he loves. I see why Trent Resner
<v Speaker 3>felt the way that he did.
<v Speaker 2>I love it.
<v Speaker 3>Yea great.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Okay, that was your number two.
<v Speaker 3>It was my number two.
<v Speaker 2>We're under your number two, sir, Okay, my number two.
<v Speaker 2>The album was released March eighth of nineteen ninety four.
<v Speaker 2>This album went on to become six times platinum. Here's
<v Speaker 2>how this song was written. The lead singer, you know Well,
<v Speaker 2>was driving home and he had about a fifteen minute
<v Speaker 2>drive from this main city to his home, and he
<v Speaker 2>was listening to the radio and he heard a news
<v Speaker 2>anchor come on and was just kind of talking about
<v Speaker 2>the news of the day, and he said he was
<v Speaker 2>just kind of half listening, half looking around, and he
<v Speaker 2>said something that he said.
<v Speaker 3>Stuck with him.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, it's three words and they don't really go
<v Speaker 2>together when you look at it. You're like, they don't
<v Speaker 2>belong in the same sentence, okay, And he said it's
<v Speaker 2>because he misheard it.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, okay.
<v Speaker 2>He just heard a couple of random words and he thought, well,
<v Speaker 2>those three words together they sound pretty good together.
<v Speaker 3>Okay.
<v Speaker 2>So when he wrote this song, he brought it to
<v Speaker 2>his band and it was one of those where it's
<v Speaker 2>a bit slower, it's not their usual style. So he
<v Speaker 2>played it for him. He didn't think they were going
<v Speaker 2>to like it. Well, they did like it, and it
<v Speaker 2>became maybe the biggest song of the summer of ninety four.
<v Speaker 3>Okay.
<v Speaker 2>So I thought this band was kind of new to
<v Speaker 2>the scene. They had actually been around for ten years already.
<v Speaker 2>There is an interesting story about the name of the album.
<v Speaker 2>The lead singer got this from a seventies TV show
<v Speaker 2>in Seattle, Leaning where it was a children's show where
<v Speaker 2>he had this clown named JP Patches on in the mornings.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay.
<v Speaker 2>Apparently it was on a magazine cover or it was
<v Speaker 2>on a VHS tape or something for this seventies TV show,
<v Speaker 2>and he thought that it said super unknown, but what
<v Speaker 2>it really said was super clown with a K.
<v Speaker 3>I knew when you said Seattle Show that we were
<v Speaker 3>talking about the album super Unknown because obviously Soundgarden and
<v Speaker 3>I can tell you the three words that don't belong together.
<v Speaker 3>What are the three words black hole, sun.
<v Speaker 9>In, masak in, dispous in disguises, no one, ruse as
<v Speaker 9>the face, blassnes, snake, the sun, mad, disgrace, morning heat.
<v Speaker 2>You got it? Okay, this song is so good. Ruled
<v Speaker 2>the summer of ninety four and may have one of
<v Speaker 2>the weirdest videos of all time.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the popping eyes and the weird like melting faces
<v Speaker 3>as people are looking what appeared at to be like
<v Speaker 3>some sort of solar event destroying the world while they're
<v Speaker 3>all very happy and like it looks like a bad
<v Speaker 3>acid trip Sesame Street episode.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, when you go back and watch this video, you
<v Speaker 2>can tell that they're like, Okay, there's this real It's
<v Speaker 2>a cool thing named computer graphics, and we're going to
<v Speaker 2>stretch their faces and make their eyes bug out. It's
<v Speaker 2>going to be really awesome.
<v Speaker 3>I haven't seen it in a long time. At the time,
<v Speaker 3>I was impressed by it. I suppose probably looking back
<v Speaker 3>at it now, it looks probably dated. So I saw
<v Speaker 3>Michael Beanhorn talking about this song like they're recording super Unknown,
<v Speaker 3>and Michael Beanhorn is like, you know the we need
<v Speaker 3>something more when he's something bigger, and Chris is like,
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what to do and he says, well,
<v Speaker 3>you know, do something for your fans. And he's like,
<v Speaker 3>but I don't know what that is. And he goes, well,
<v Speaker 3>what do you like and he's like, I like Cream
<v Speaker 3>and I like the Beatles and he says, well, then
<v Speaker 3>go home and write a song like Cream and Beatles.
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>It comes back, gives him the recording of what he's done,
<v Speaker 3>and Michael Beanhorn says, my job isn't to pick out
<v Speaker 3>good songs. Mike's job is to pick out what's not
<v Speaker 3>working in the song. He said, from the first notes
<v Speaker 3>of the song, he was like, what the fuck is this?
<v Speaker 3>And then as he kept listen, he kept waiting, He's
<v Speaker 3>just like, where is it gonna go bad? This is incredible, right,
<v Speaker 3>And he's like, Okay, the verse is perfect. He's gonna
<v Speaker 3>get up on the chorus. Chorus comes and it's even
<v Speaker 3>more beautiful than the verse, and so he immediately calls
<v Speaker 3>and he's like what the Chris, and Chris is like
<v Speaker 3>what what? What's wrong, and he's like, you're a fucking genius.
<v Speaker 7>He goes, what are you talking about?
<v Speaker 3>It's like black hole Sun.
<v Speaker 10>Black Hole soun launch you come, black Hole Sun lone
<v Speaker 10>you come.
<v Speaker 3>Wow.
<v Speaker 2>That is a great pull right there.
<v Speaker 3>It's it's an amazing song.
<v Speaker 2>It is an amazing song. Now, okay, the honorable mentions,
<v Speaker 2>you're up.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'm gonna cheat a little bit, and I think
<v Speaker 3>you'll forgive me for cheating a little bit. All right.
<v Speaker 3>One of my honorable mentions is a song that I
<v Speaker 3>love dearly and probably deserves to be in the top five,
<v Speaker 3>but it's an emotional song for me because of someone
<v Speaker 3>else who's involved in the song at this moment, and
<v Speaker 3>so all I'm going to say is Nutshell Alison Chains
<v Speaker 3>jar Flies. It deserves to be one of the top
<v Speaker 3>songs of nineteen ninety four.
<v Speaker 6>Chasms writer.
<v Speaker 8>We preas the Baiah, But I can't talk about it
<v Speaker 8>right now.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, all right, all right, Now I'll go back to
<v Speaker 3>our happy episode and talk about other honorable mentions. See
<v Speaker 3>if I can lead you into it. Okay, okay, okay.
<v Speaker 3>First honorable mention Seattle Band. The singer in this band
<v Speaker 3>worked at a shoe store called John fluvook with Chris
<v Speaker 3>Cornell's girlfriend, Susan Silver, who also managed bands out of
<v Speaker 3>a little place out of the back of it.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you're tickling my memory there.
<v Speaker 3>Okay. The lead singer of the band met Chris Cornell,
<v Speaker 3>met Andrew Wood, met Lane Staley, met all of those
<v Speaker 3>guys working at the shoe store. But he was younger.
<v Speaker 3>He's about five years younger than they were. But he
<v Speaker 3>was definitely into music. He was playing drums and so
<v Speaker 3>once he got a band together and they were playing
<v Speaker 3>in the same studio that we talked about when we
<v Speaker 3>covered Alison Chain's Dirt, that they all got together and
<v Speaker 3>just hung out all day long. He would talk to
<v Speaker 3>Lane Staley all day long about different artists that they
<v Speaker 3>like and singing styles. He talked to Andrew Wood about
<v Speaker 3>different types of music because he was like, he was
<v Speaker 3>just this huge, like he looked like a rock star,
<v Speaker 3>even though they hadn't made it yet. Right this band
<v Speaker 3>when they hit it, like it was kind of a
<v Speaker 3>weird thing because the grunge thing had kind of started
<v Speaker 3>a blossom and the band had only been together for
<v Speaker 3>about a year and a half and there was this
<v Speaker 3>big band showcase. Basically that record producers came to listen
<v Speaker 3>to new bands. EMI showed interest in this young band
<v Speaker 3>and said, why don't you guys come down to LA.
<v Speaker 3>They go down to LA to play a show and
<v Speaker 3>EMI doesn't even show up. Ghost them, Ghost them, right,
<v Speaker 3>But ironically, turn of Fate, Madonna's record label, Maverick is there.
<v Speaker 3>They love them and they signed this band.
<v Speaker 2>Gosh, you're talking all around some stuff I feel like
<v Speaker 2>we've covered before, but I don't remember exactly. Keep going.
<v Speaker 3>So, as I said, this was a Seattle band. Lead
<v Speaker 3>singer was from I think, born in Illinois, raised in Texas,
<v Speaker 3>but like at fourteen, he was in Seattle with the
<v Speaker 3>rest of the guys. But this band got a lot
<v Speaker 3>of hate, not only because they were young, not only
<v Speaker 3>because they had a Seattle sound, but because people kept
<v Speaker 3>talking about them being from California even though they were
<v Speaker 3>actually from Seattle. Specifically Courtney Love. I had a big
<v Speaker 3>feud with her because she kept talking about, you know,
<v Speaker 3>their just this California band. And then later these guys
<v Speaker 3>would join up with some of the old members of
<v Speaker 3>Live and they would form the Gracious Few.
<v Speaker 7>We just talked about.
<v Speaker 2>I just listened to this this yesterday.
<v Speaker 3>The big song that they had before this song was
<v Speaker 3>a song called cover Me and Seattle Band. They're more
<v Speaker 3>rock and roll than grunge. They have their big break
<v Speaker 3>of luck when Alison Chains is having lots of trouble
<v Speaker 3>because of Lane Staley's Heroin use and Lane. Basically they
<v Speaker 3>break up and they're supposed to be opening for Metallica. Well,
<v Speaker 3>this band then comes in and becomes the opener for Metallica.
<v Speaker 3>And Wayne con said this band was not the nail
<v Speaker 3>in the coffin of grunge. This band was the coffin
<v Speaker 3>brought in to take grunge out. You know the band.
<v Speaker 2>I know the band.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, this band is Candlebox correct. I'll give you one
<v Speaker 3>more hint. Okay, yep. The beginning line of this song
<v Speaker 3>was Andy, I didn't mean to treat you bad, but
<v Speaker 3>at the last second he changed it and said, now,
<v Speaker 3>maybe I didn't mean to treat you bad.
<v Speaker 2>This song is called far Behind.
<v Speaker 6>Now Me Manway.
<v Speaker 9>Man.
<v Speaker 2>It's a brilliant song. I love this song.
<v Speaker 3>I've heard and I don't know if this is precise,
<v Speaker 3>but I can see it that this song is a
<v Speaker 3>love song from Heroin to Andy Wood. This idea of
<v Speaker 3>I didn't mean to treat you bad, but I did
<v Speaker 3>it anyway. But it also is a mournful song for
<v Speaker 3>Kevin Martin, having not tried to do more for Andy
<v Speaker 3>before his Heroin.
<v Speaker 2>I love that idea that this is a love song
<v Speaker 2>from Heroin to Andy.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Okay, so there's one of my honorable mentions. You
<v Speaker 3>do your honorable one of yours now, and you have all.
<v Speaker 2>These heavy songs I've got, like you know, cold man.
<v Speaker 2>Don't tell me you didn't love this.
<v Speaker 7>I did.
<v Speaker 3>I loved it. Okay.
<v Speaker 2>So my first Honorable Mention was released in October of
<v Speaker 2>ninety three, debuts on the charts in January of ninety four.
<v Speaker 2>It peaks at number four on the Billboard Hot one
<v Speaker 2>hundred and April of ninety four. Okay, and I have
<v Speaker 2>told you many times that this is the single greatest
<v Speaker 2>charades song of all time.
<v Speaker 3>I do not remember having that conversation.
<v Speaker 2>When you're playing charades and you put this in your arsenal.
<v Speaker 2>You've already got one in your pocket of your winning Okay,
<v Speaker 2>mark it down.
<v Speaker 3>Okay.
<v Speaker 2>So this song has been named on VH one's Awesomely
<v Speaker 2>Bad Songs, which I don't agree with Okay.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, the lead.
<v Speaker 2>Singer in this band has a very distinct voice.
<v Speaker 3>Okay.
<v Speaker 2>In fact, it's been said of him, if a bullfrog
<v Speaker 2>could sing appealingly, it would sound like this guy.
<v Speaker 3>Okay. It's a deep voice, deep voice.
<v Speaker 2>So each of these three verses describe the isolation and
<v Speaker 2>suffering of a different child.
<v Speaker 3>I've got it.
<v Speaker 2>What's the name of the song.
<v Speaker 3>This is crash Test Dummies, and I think the name
<v Speaker 3>of the song is just you got it.
<v Speaker 6>It was this cute.
<v Speaker 10>He got into an excellent dumps and god in comments.
<v Speaker 3>Will Button, I'm pretty sure d script is going to
<v Speaker 3>cut that out. Yes it's it's mmmmmm.
<v Speaker 2>Greatest trade song of all time.
<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh. Yes, it was all over the air
<v Speaker 3>for about five minutes. It sure was.
<v Speaker 2>It also makes an appearance at a very emotional moment
<v Speaker 2>in the movie Dumb and Dumbing.
<v Speaker 3>I remember that well and his hair head turned from
<v Speaker 3>black to right way.
<v Speaker 2>Lloyd is screaming at Harry. I'm sorry, mister prefact. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>your other honorable mans next to honorable mention.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I don't think that the song is going to
<v Speaker 3>be in your wheelhouse, but this is one of those
<v Speaker 3>albums from ninety four. That was a main stay for me. Okay, okay,
<v Speaker 3>I'm so sure that this is not in your wheelhouse,
<v Speaker 3>so that I'm going to tell you the members of
<v Speaker 3>the band right off the bat. Okay, Okay, We've got
<v Speaker 3>Jeff Borrow and Beth Gibbons. Okay, nope, we're not ringing
<v Speaker 3>any bells all right so far. No, if people know
<v Speaker 3>who the band, they'll know who that is already, all right.
<v Speaker 3>They met at an Enterprise Allowance course. Enterprise Allowance was
<v Speaker 3>this thing that Margaret Thatcher put together for business entrepreneurs
<v Speaker 3>to teach them how to be entrepreneurs.
<v Speaker 2>Are the English?
<v Speaker 3>They are? They are British, Yes, British. Okay. They began
<v Speaker 3>this is great. They began working on their first recordings
<v Speaker 3>in Nina Cherry's kitchen.
<v Speaker 2>I forgot Nina Cherry's British as well.
<v Speaker 3>She actually also had a minor hit in nineteen ninety
<v Speaker 3>four called seven Seconds. Pick that one up. It wasn't
<v Speaker 3>quite Buffalo Dance, but and Milli Vanilli wasn't even around
<v Speaker 3>to knock her out of the running. But okay, and
<v Speaker 3>so then this guy named Adrian Utley or Yutelee, I'm
<v Speaker 3>not sure how you pronounced his last name. He comes along,
<v Speaker 3>he meets them and he starts introducing them to thereman's
<v Speaker 3>that thing and then what's something that's called a symbol,
<v Speaker 3>which I looked it up. It looks like a coffee
<v Speaker 3>table with strings and petals. Anyway, these guys, because of
<v Speaker 3>these new things that Adrian was bringing along, had a
<v Speaker 3>very unique sound and basically are credited with bringing what
<v Speaker 3>was called the Bristol sound into the mainstream. And Bristol
<v Speaker 3>is the place in the UK that they're from. Okay,
<v Speaker 3>they had kind of a hip hop beat to their stuff,
<v Speaker 3>but their hit their music was not remotely hip hop.
<v Speaker 3>It sounded more like bluesy jazz like. It sounded like
<v Speaker 3>the James Bond theme music. Genuinely, this song in particular
<v Speaker 3>sounds like it could be a James Bond theme all right,
<v Speaker 3>But they didn't record it digitally. They recorded it on vinyl.
<v Speaker 3>Then they would take the vinyl records and they would
<v Speaker 3>put them on the floor and they would walk on
<v Speaker 3>them and treat them like skateboards to get them all
<v Speaker 3>scratched up, so that it has this old school scratchy
<v Speaker 3>record effect. Yeah. So, like I bought the CD and
<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden, it's like yeah yeah. This song
<v Speaker 3>that is the last single that came off of this
<v Speaker 3>album album is called Dummy Don't Ring any Bells yet, okay,
<v Speaker 3>last song on the album, last single to be released.
<v Speaker 3>It sampled Isaac Hayes's song Ike's Rap. Two was released
<v Speaker 3>in August of nineteen ninety four. It reached number thirteen
<v Speaker 3>on the UK Singles. They put this video on their
<v Speaker 3>YouTube channel in twenty fifteen, so nine years ago. Since then,
<v Speaker 3>it's had thirty five million views.
<v Speaker 2>Okay. I would love to tell you what this is
<v Speaker 2>by I don't even have it.
<v Speaker 3>You don't even have a close Okay. So the name
<v Speaker 3>of this band I know, you know because I've said
<v Speaker 3>before is Portoishead, Okay, which is the name of a
<v Speaker 3>town nearby Portishead, Okay. And the name of the song
<v Speaker 3>is Glory Box.
<v Speaker 6>So time hind away.
<v Speaker 3>Okay.
<v Speaker 2>I don't recognize that song, but it definitely does have
<v Speaker 2>the sound of a James Bond.
<v Speaker 3>Theme had the CD. I don't even remember how it
<v Speaker 3>came into my radar, but it's it was a big
<v Speaker 3>one in ninety four. Honorable mention there.
<v Speaker 2>Hey, I did like it. I thought that was that
<v Speaker 2>would be a complete new discovery for me. Okay, my
<v Speaker 2>last honorable mention, yep, I'm excited to drop this trivia
<v Speaker 2>on you.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Okay.
<v Speaker 2>So this, as we said, is right before Napster, This
<v Speaker 2>is right before Spotify. This is right before streaming and Internet.
<v Speaker 2>Even the artist, the lead singer for this particular song,
<v Speaker 2>wrote an article and the headline was, my song got
<v Speaker 2>played on Pandora one million times and all I got
<v Speaker 2>was sixteen eighty nine, less than what I make from
<v Speaker 2>a single T shirt sale. And that article went viral
<v Speaker 2>okay and continues to be a reference point for money
<v Speaker 2>and streaming and.
<v Speaker 3>Like, how bad it is for the artist?
<v Speaker 2>This song was played over a million times on Pandora
<v Speaker 2>and he got sixteen bucks.
<v Speaker 3>It's terrible, by the way.
<v Speaker 2>That article came out in twenty thirteen. More interesting stuff
<v Speaker 2>on this song. The band's label made the singer write
<v Speaker 2>a letter two radio stations denying that the song was
<v Speaker 2>about drugs, when clearly it was. Here's another clue for
<v Speaker 2>you in the video, this show's the lead singer, and
<v Speaker 2>the lead singer's name was David Lowry losing a boxing
<v Speaker 2>match with Sandra Bernhardt.
<v Speaker 3>Oh gosh, I kind of remember that ring a bell
<v Speaker 3>with it. I kind of do remember that. Okay, keep going, Okay.
<v Speaker 2>This song reached number sixty four on the Hot one
<v Speaker 2>hundred and May of ninety five reach number three on
<v Speaker 2>the Modern Rock charts. The album that it comes off
<v Speaker 2>of is a ninety three album called Kerosene Hat. When
<v Speaker 2>you talk about using drugs, one might say that you
<v Speaker 2>are getting high, and so this song would be the
<v Speaker 2>opposite of that, and it's called low.
<v Speaker 6>Sometimes I Want to take you Down.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Yeah, now that I hear it, Yes, I know
<v Speaker 3>that song.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, super catchy chorus, all about hey hey hey, it's
<v Speaker 2>like being stoned.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, not about drugs.
<v Speaker 2>So they made him change the lyrics. Hey hey, hey
<v Speaker 2>like being stone? What do we is this?
<v Speaker 3>Eighteen eighty four and a Stone Gossard? I don't right who.
<v Speaker 2>They made him change the lyrics because they didn't want
<v Speaker 2>it perceived that this song is about drug use.
<v Speaker 3>We've got all of these guys writing all of these
<v Speaker 3>songs about drugs, and they're getting caught up in this.
<v Speaker 2>Hey, Tipper Gore was in the studio apparently or something.
<v Speaker 2>Because that seems pretty harmless, relatively harmless compared to a
<v Speaker 2>lot of other stuff that was my unable mention.
<v Speaker 3>So I had a couple of new discoveries that I
<v Speaker 3>just want to turn you on, turn other people onto. Okay, yep.
<v Speaker 3>One of them is a Mega Death song. I'm not
<v Speaker 3>a megadeath guy, but Mega Death had a release in
<v Speaker 3>nineteen ninety four called to Lemont. Okay, I get welliss
<v Speaker 3>mingle in here to help me pronounce that. I guess right,
<v Speaker 3>but it's really pretty good. Well, listen to it here.
<v Speaker 6>I don't remember where I was I realized life was
<v Speaker 6>a game. I love it.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean it's a throwback to the old eighties.
<v Speaker 2>It sounds like eighties rock, that's right.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And So another one that came up that I
<v Speaker 3>remember listening to because I had the soundtrack when I
<v Speaker 3>was a kid that I had just kind of forgotten
<v Speaker 3>about is band called Machines of Loving Grace and it's
<v Speaker 3>called Golgotha Tenement Blues but it's off the Crow soundtrack
<v Speaker 3>and it's awesome. Scott Benzel is now a member of
<v Speaker 3>the faculty at the California Institute for the Arts, So,
<v Speaker 3>uh nice, you know, sideway career move for him. But anyway,
<v Speaker 3>there you go. I think maybe the very first song
<v Speaker 3>on the Crow soundtrack. It's I loved it. So did
<v Speaker 3>you have any songs that were new to you?
<v Speaker 2>Well, so here's what I'm gonna tell you. I went
<v Speaker 2>to a concert in nineteen ninety four in Texas Stadium,
<v Speaker 2>saw the Eagles. It was the I mean, like the
<v Speaker 2>hottest ticket around. Eagles had gotten back together for the
<v Speaker 2>Hell Freezes over to her and they had a woman
<v Speaker 2>who opened for them that I had never heard of.
<v Speaker 2>And when she played, she blew my socks off. And
<v Speaker 2>the one particular song that she played that night that
<v Speaker 2>I've just fell instantly in love with it's a song
<v Speaker 2>called come to My Windowless Ethridge. It was Melissa Ethridge.
<v Speaker 2>And when I saw her that night and then she
<v Speaker 2>plays this beautiful song, I'm like, that song is a hit.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sure enough. I was right.
<v Speaker 2>By the way. I have not stopped sweating from that
<v Speaker 2>concert in July, the stadium with the roof open. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>we're uptore never once.
<v Speaker 3>Oh my goodness, going first.
<v Speaker 6>One.
<v Speaker 2>We might have the same number one song.
<v Speaker 3>If we Baker Street this again. I'm gonna go nuts. Okay,
<v Speaker 3>I'll start, Okay, you start, you start. My song is
<v Speaker 3>a cover song.
<v Speaker 2>Okay.
<v Speaker 3>The guy who wrote it in eighty four was having
<v Speaker 3>lunch with Bob Dylan later on and he said, hey,
<v Speaker 3>you know, I really like this song. Here is Bob,
<v Speaker 3>how long did it take you to write? And Bob
<v Speaker 3>Dylan's like fifteen minutes. And Bob Dylan's like, I really
<v Speaker 3>like this song that you've got song that I'm talking about? Now,
<v Speaker 3>how long it take you to write? And this guy
<v Speaker 3>says two years. That was a lie. It took him
<v Speaker 3>five years. Okay, wow, this song was his tormentor and
<v Speaker 3>his muse. He wrote, well, nobody really knows how many
<v Speaker 3>verses he wrote. It's just crazy long and he would
<v Speaker 3>throw things away and pick things and mix it up,
<v Speaker 3>and eventually he got it to where he thought it
<v Speaker 3>was in its best shape. He takes it to the
<v Speaker 3>president of CBS Records, who he signed with at the time.
<v Speaker 3>The song is something like eight or nine minutes long,
<v Speaker 3>and the president of CBS record says, I can't produce
<v Speaker 3>this crap. What are you talking about this? It's ridiculous.
<v Speaker 3>And this song it's my number one song of ninety four.
<v Speaker 3>It's one of the most well known songs worldwide. Okay, yes,
<v Speaker 3>and it gets rejected by the president of CBS Records,
<v Speaker 3>and so he goes to an independent label who produces
<v Speaker 3>this song. And I gotta tell you, the nineteen eighty version,
<v Speaker 3>the nineteen eighty four version by the original artist is
<v Speaker 3>almost unlistenable to me knowing what the song sounds like today, Okay,
<v Speaker 3>those ninety four So then round about late eighties, early nineties,
<v Speaker 3>this group of folks gets together, These artists get together,
<v Speaker 3>and they decide to make a tribute album to this
<v Speaker 3>artist who wrote this song. And John Cayle, who is
<v Speaker 3>I believe he was with the Velvet Underground, I remembering right,
<v Speaker 3>he does. He tells the guy who wrote this song,
<v Speaker 3>He's like, I really like that song, but can you
<v Speaker 3>fax me over the pages and I would like to
<v Speaker 3>cover that song on this tribute album that we're doing
<v Speaker 3>for you. And so the writer sends him something like
<v Speaker 3>fifteen pages worth of lyrics and he's like, oh my gosh.
<v Speaker 3>And so he says, I pick out the ones that
<v Speaker 3>have more religious undertones to them and are kind of cheeky.
<v Speaker 3>And so they make this tribute album to this guy.
<v Speaker 3>And because it's a tribute album to an artist that
<v Speaker 3>is not super popular in the first place. About five
<v Speaker 3>CDs get sold, Okay, sure. One of those CDs goes
<v Speaker 3>to a lady in New York City who has a kid,
<v Speaker 3>I mean teenager who is house sitting for her, and
<v Speaker 3>he happens to come across this CD with this cover song,
<v Speaker 3>this cover of this song in it, and he's like,
<v Speaker 3>I really like this. And he's a musician himself, and
<v Speaker 3>so in nineteen ninety when he records this song, he
<v Speaker 3>records his cover of the John Klee cover of the
<v Speaker 3>original song from nineteen eighty four. So it's ten years later, right, sure,
<v Speaker 3>And so it's a cover of a cover, it's cover
<v Speaker 3>of a cover, and this guy's voice is beautiful and
<v Speaker 3>it's just him and his electric guitar, and the guitar
<v Speaker 3>sounds like this ethereal beam of light from heaven and
<v Speaker 3>his voice is like the angel that comes along with it. Okay.
<v Speaker 3>It comes out in ninety four, which is why it's
<v Speaker 3>on my list. It actually doesn't do exceptionally well. It
<v Speaker 3>gets some notice, but it doesn't do exceptionally well. It's
<v Speaker 3>only three years later when the singer suddenly dies under
<v Speaker 3>very tragic circumstances that his catalog and this album Come
<v Speaker 3>to Light. Singer was swimming in the Tennessee River singing
<v Speaker 3>a Whole Lot of Love by led Zeppelin. As he
<v Speaker 3>was floating along, had his boots on, suddenly disappeared and
<v Speaker 3>nobody ever saw him again. The name of the album
<v Speaker 3>that came out in ninety four that started getting notoriety
<v Speaker 3>in nineteen ninety seven at his death is called Grace.
<v Speaker 3>The name of the song is also religious and has
<v Speaker 3>probably been covered by more people than any other song
<v Speaker 3>in the world.
<v Speaker 2>So this song is Hallelujah, and the singer is Jeff Buckley.
<v Speaker 6>I heard the wor was a secret code that David
<v Speaker 6>played and it pleased the Lord. But you don't really
<v Speaker 6>care for music. To you, lickos are like this.
<v Speaker 9>The fourth, the fifth, the Mine of Fall, and the
<v Speaker 9>Major lived the Bible King composing Hall.
<v Speaker 2>Kill Me, Man Kill Me.
<v Speaker 3>It's so beautiful. I couldn't not pick it as my
<v Speaker 3>number one song. And so you're right, cover of a cover,
<v Speaker 3>and so because that's the one that everybody came to know,
<v Speaker 3>every cover that you've heard somebody else is a cover
<v Speaker 3>of a cover of a cover. So here's Leonard Cohen's
<v Speaker 3>original version of this song. There was a secret chord
<v Speaker 3>that David played and then pleased the Lord.
<v Speaker 7>But you don't really care.
<v Speaker 3>For music, do you?
<v Speaker 2>That sounds like Jimmy in accounting that karaoke.
<v Speaker 3>I always like to bring this song up as a
<v Speaker 3>song that took a decade to fully ripen and input
<v Speaker 3>from various artists, but man, when it came up, it
<v Speaker 3>was perfect.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So we've talked about my number one song at
<v Speaker 2>length before.
<v Speaker 3>Okay.
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't a track by track, but it was a
<v Speaker 2>song that we discussed pretty thoroughly about two years ago.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay.
<v Speaker 2>This song came off of an EP that was released
<v Speaker 2>in January of ninety four. It's the first EP to
<v Speaker 2>reach number one on the album charts.
<v Speaker 3>You know, I actually had to look up the difference
<v Speaker 3>between EP and LP because and I don't know if
<v Speaker 3>it's this one or not, but an EP from nineteen
<v Speaker 3>ninety four is thirty minutes long, and I had it
<v Speaker 3>and I listened to it NonStop, and I would have
<v Speaker 3>never said this is different than any other album. I mean,
<v Speaker 3>it's longer than some of the original Beatles albums. So anyway,
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, go ahead and EP, yes, and.
<v Speaker 2>EP, and I'm confident that this is the same album
<v Speaker 2>we're talking about here. Okay, Okay, different song, same album, gotcha. So,
<v Speaker 2>after this band's nineteen ninety three tour, they went to
<v Speaker 2>the studio for a few days. They grab their acoustic
<v Speaker 2>guitars just to see what would happen. There's a lot
<v Speaker 2>of parallels between Guns and Roses Lies album and this album,
<v Speaker 2>which rives with lies. But and so you know, let's
<v Speaker 2>go to the studio with our acoustic guitar, let's see
<v Speaker 2>what happens. And they pump out this song among others
<v Speaker 2>that are just amazing songs. I feel like we need
<v Speaker 2>to cover this at some point.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like I said, this one versus Purple sometime in
<v Speaker 3>our future would be great.
<v Speaker 2>So we talked about this, I think when we were
<v Speaker 2>doing kind of the separate history of before we did
<v Speaker 2>the track by track and this particular singer, this is
<v Speaker 2>Laine Staley of Alice in Chains struggling mightily with Heroin.
<v Speaker 2>At this time, they didn't even know if he would
<v Speaker 2>be able to perform, let alone.
<v Speaker 3>Show up when they did their and they did the unplugged.
<v Speaker 2>Right and I think we even talked about how he
<v Speaker 2>went back home to kind of get away to try
<v Speaker 2>to get a hold of his life. And he pulled
<v Speaker 2>into like a grocery store and there were some kids
<v Speaker 2>that had parked the cars kind of in the back
<v Speaker 2>of the parking lot and were just kind of have
<v Speaker 2>a little impromptu party in the back of the parking lot,
<v Speaker 2>and they had this song cranked up, and when he
<v Speaker 2>pulled up next to him, he rolled down their window
<v Speaker 2>and started seeking the song with him.
<v Speaker 3>They were like, oh, my gosh, right, this one is
<v Speaker 3>no excuses.
<v Speaker 2>And this time in nineteen ninety four, I was not
<v Speaker 2>particularly an Allison Chains fan, but this song is irresistible.
<v Speaker 2>It is amazing.
<v Speaker 3>This is one of those albums and I'm calling it
<v Speaker 3>an album, even though I mean it's thirty minutes long.
<v Speaker 2>It's an album.
<v Speaker 3>It's an album, and it is good from beginning to end.
<v Speaker 3>And I wore it out back in the day. The
<v Speaker 3>original version of these songs that we've discussed are fantastic,
<v Speaker 3>and the unplugged version, I mean it brought it up
<v Speaker 3>a notch too, so.
<v Speaker 6>Very good.
<v Speaker 7>All right.
<v Speaker 2>So that brings us to the end of our best
<v Speaker 2>songs of ninety four.
<v Speaker 3>Guys, tell us what you think what we miss? My
<v Speaker 3>goodness what an incredible year. May be the last incredible
<v Speaker 3>year for music, but so glad we got to go
<v Speaker 3>rewind ourselves to nineteen ninety four.
<v Speaker 2>I had fun with this, D thank you so much
<v Speaker 2>for doing This is kind of the capper of our
<v Speaker 2>five albums of ninety four or five. Next week, we
<v Speaker 2>are doing our James Bond theme song draft. We've got
<v Speaker 2>five podcasts participating. It's gonna be a lot of fun.
<v Speaker 2>You definitely want to come back as we draft our
<v Speaker 2>favorite James Bond theme songs.
<v Speaker 3>Be sure and tune in for that. Guys, we will
<v Speaker 3>see you next week.

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