Ne-Yo on new COUNTRY album, Beyoncé collabs, Michael Jackson & Prince stories

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Speaker 1: He sees me, puts his guitar down, b lines through the crowd straight to me. It comes on to me and says, labor Skill is a good album. Don't let nobody take you different and walked on. And from that moment I was like, you know what, I don't give a damn what the critics say. I don't care what nobody say. Prince Daida's good, It's good. I'm good, Yo. What up y artist is Joe Crack the Dawn?

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Speaker 2: It's your boy, Jada. You know what it is? Did Joe and.

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Speaker 3: Jadas show every show legendary, every show iconic.

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Speaker 2: It's so forth is so on, ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 3: Today we want you to give it up for our brother, Triple Threat artists, great human being. I can keep going a little all five hours of the good characteristics of this brother.

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Speaker 2: It makes some noise for my man.

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Speaker 4: Neo.

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Speaker 2: Love and respect, love and respect. So you're first country artist.

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Speaker 4: Because it's out of your country, and do I country inspired?

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Speaker 2: I do that. I feel like it's disrespectful for me to call it a country album. There's some burrow on right now. What are you talking about? Everything's connected.

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Speaker 4: But that's why I'm trying to like, but you know, he ain't you know what they know what they do, got a platinum pin yo. It's like I didn't even want to look up the stats right because it's just too much. But uh, if I looked into the neo bag, it would definitely end up at Beyonce.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what's that like?

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Speaker 4: Working with the queen and penning something up for her and not only that, something iconic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, that was that was That's That's one of the ones.

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Speaker 1: I'll say this the dis session tell them with the song is talking about Beyonce is irreplaceable.

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Speaker 2: That's uh. Yeah, I'm still eating set and I still ain't spent all that.

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Speaker 4: Still ain't to different, But I'm used to going in the studio and having to kind of kind of hold artist's hands, so to speak. You know what I'm saying, Like I hear the next note, I hear's the next part?

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Speaker 2: Do this that part? Man, I ain't never felt so useless in my damn life. Work gonna be. She ain't need me for nothing. I'm like, all right, I'm gonna get coffee.

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Speaker 1: You got it. She got it? She did not that song. I didn't about an hour by myself like I wasn't needed. I wasn't needed, but but I was mad at got.

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Speaker 2: Country vibes to it it. Dude.

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Speaker 4: I kind of wrote it like like a country song because when I first wrote it, there was no drums on.

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Speaker 1: It was just the guitar part. So I kind of wrote it like kind of like a country song because I've always I've always appreciated country music because it's like it's storytelling, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: It's like you.

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Speaker 1: Got to be clever with the lyric and country music. So I always always had an appreciation for that. That's that's kind of why I'm doing the album that I'm doing, uh country again, country inspired. I don't feel like I can call it a country album in that I'm not a full fledged country artist, Like I feel like that's disrespectful. The cast has been doing that for years and then here I come on some Yeah I'm doing the country. I'm like, nah, it's inspired by all the things that I love about country music. Yeah, coming soon, coming from real quick, real quick. I don't I don't walk to nobody house without a gift.

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Speaker 2: Damn, we ain't gotten to do that. Me being here, me being here, y'all having me here is the gift. I appreciate that, shouts to my man Vaughn Smith. The name of the headline is circle. We just got so we got some burrows because you got no no guys, Oh that's all right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man as Circa is the name of the liance. My man, my man Vaughn and this part of the put that thing together. So yeah, just appreciation for having me on.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you. Oh you see the mixed way the color, that's what that's.

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Speaker 4: For fans who think we're really gonna win like that, like you if you think the Knick's gonna win this ship like ya.

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Speaker 2: A little wave, you know. I appreciated that a fire appreciate y'all.

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Speaker 4: Don't get nothing, really, and we don't get nothing nothing for Father's Day.

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Speaker 2: We don't get shipped for the not even the firs socks.

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Speaker 4: What does a guy who has four wives four girls do you receive a gift on Father's Day or birthday?

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Speaker 2: You know what?

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Speaker 1: I get gifts from my kids on Father's Day and that's enough.

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Speaker 4: I don't necessarily today, we just don't. I don't need nothing we get birking bags.

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Speaker 2: Or type of ship. We get socks. I don't even get that. But I don't see. I'm also I don't need. I don't need a gift and socks, not even a good tube shock.

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Speaker 4: My father man loud across the floor. My father last say, eighty nine years, he had the same complaint every year, Yo, I don't get ship. I gotta buy flowers chocolates. This my father like, yo, I ain't getting shipped. Why we can't get shipped.

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Speaker 1: But but see in my household, I don't have to lift a finger. I don't gotta cook, I don't gotta clean.

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Speaker 2: I don't got it.

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Speaker 4: I don't gotta do much of nothing in my house because from between my kids and.

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Speaker 2: My women, and I don't. I don't like, I don't need.

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Speaker 4: I'll say, like they said, throw like ice cream on the floor. You can eat that ship off the floor for spotless. That shit is like a drift through. Drive through that ship like the ship. You know, to sit there all they be marbalizing the offices and sit that shit gotta be.

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Speaker 1: Crystal clear now absolutely Now, I'm good. I need I don't need gifts every day.

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Speaker 4: It's gifts in my I get it now me I'm not gonna lie to you like these hats, I swear to you, I'm gonna wear it, and I truly appreciate it because I don't get shipped. I'm being honest with you. I don't get shipped. I don't fat Joe, don't get ship.

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Speaker 2: I'm being that you gotta get money. Yeah, yeah, I'm just chilling. Man.

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Speaker 3: We having having a nice conversation. Man, Man, it's my god. He's a the bag. You talking about the bag. He's a very given person. I shot a video on the level he had these Louise on him, like yo, I like them. He send somebody and brought him with the old I like them trick.

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Speaker 2: Huh No, I wasn't. He did fool trick. Huh. I didn't even know him. Rick did the old I like him trick? He was?

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Speaker 4: He was really with this guy, right, I had dinner with this guy. Man, he's a gambling expert. What the fuck?

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Speaker 2: You hit him with the old? I like he just did. Now he hit me with the OOFTI wati.

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Speaker 4: I had these newis glass and shipping like five thousand some fly ship.

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Speaker 2: Every bide of the dinner.

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Speaker 4: He was like, man, the class really every bike and it just kept and I'm from the thing like, if you compliment too much now, it's almost like the mirror's gonna crack.

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Speaker 2: Like I'm like, yo, give it to it's gonna be that blood.

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Speaker 4: I said, these glasses, you get like ten fucking time to say, Yo, here go brother, take him man and enjoy the glasses. It's not a problem this. I never found them glasses again. Vegas Dave hustled me for my ship, Yo, Vegas Dave sending the glasses back. Vegas Daves might send him back.

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Speaker 2: It works sometime. Thank you. Being the generous god.

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Speaker 1: I'm always be that, always be there. I feel like you gotta be a blessing to receive a blessing.

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Speaker 4: By the way, call is funning me when we did the caller joining and I kept saying, can I get a loan? That motherfucker never hands James Brown, Peter King of the Spin I just watched that episode said this said a whole lot of nothing. Now, motherfucker like the dragon from Grain of Thrones without the fire coming out of his mind. I'm like, huh, I'm looking at that shit because I got drunk. I fucked up. I got drunk with him, and I don't drink, and so it took me to see the ship to notice that I got fun like, I'm fucking I'm like one of them lot new dolls.

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Speaker 2: What's upthing, loop fellow ship. I was a little I'm fucking out it. I was feeling a little nice.

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Speaker 3: But when you asked him that, he took us all the way around Roward.

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Speaker 2: He took us.

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Speaker 4: He was trying to get the man on record to say, Yo, Joe, I don't need a long I just try to get him on record. He ain't go for it. He spun me to death. But yo, neo man, you got a country album. You know, everything you do is incredible. You know everything last show I had with you, we was in uh what the Kyman Knowledge? And I felt like, you know what I'm saying. I was I was watching perform. I was like, and you're also my wife's favorite singer, respect right. You know, my mom's and pops had just passed away around the time we were supposed to do our birthday. You said you would do it. Jesz's her favorite rapper. He was coming to but and that she just went to see Jez but he ain't the.

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Speaker 2: Song with me, y'all. She was pissed the joint y'all got together. She was like, yo, he ain't doing my song.

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Speaker 3: He said, yeah, that ship like that.

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Speaker 2: How many times you do a show and they say you ain't do their song?

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Speaker 3: Man, everybody's all with every kid, every reason here, somebody why he didn't do this song that you never do?

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Speaker 2: Mind you? It wasn't a single. The fourth album cut like this is my favorite joint white wait man. Listen, did you enjoy the show? All right? Leave me alone? Man, go on, it's a lot, It's a whole lot.

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Speaker 3: One of last show with him, he was in Jamaica. Remember something after you. I had to save the day for you. He as much DJ. We was out there for some It was one of the fesces with a bunch of Jamaican and all this and that, Me and you and Buster was supposed to be there. Let me catch he was in that my Tigo Bay or somewhere the cakes. He was somewhere and they like, yo, he is being Something happened? Could he say, yeah, he can rock with me. That's how we got the technician Jamaicing technician.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he used tech. You know when I double tipped them on tech. He wont his fucking fist.

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Speaker 3: He said, hey, you know what when you went to pay him listen text Jamaican.

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Speaker 2: So he was living a life out there. He had the chefs, the maids, he was eating seven millis in the Motherland. He was chilling.

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Speaker 4: I just went I just came back from Puerto Rico. I went to the Bad Bunny concert. Did you feel like Colt like what?

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Speaker 2: No? No, No, it was it was fino. You know what I'm saying, I don't see I needed you. I need the same.

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Speaker 4: No, it was what you want me to say. I'm not gonna do what callous say. It was an incredible show, super talented. The fucking aesthetics was crazy, the vibe and when we landed on the plane, it no, the party was like welcome to Bad Buddy, and the whole plane went crazy. Man, I never like that whole island. I heard he generated like seven hundred million for the island and the whole theme of the show is based on like gentrification of Puerto Rico, that grandmothers are selling their cribs and you know, and so he he brought all that money back to the economy. It was really incredible. Well, you know, I've been drinking a lot, Lady, I drinking that motherfucker too.

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Speaker 2: I was saucy. I technically was s time. It's nice.

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Speaker 4: All yeah, I want to ship, you know, I got to like y'all get that water. You already know you got it. But incredible, phenomenal show. One of the greatest shows I've ever seen in my life. And then the next day I snuck into that biann mcnight. When's the last time you've seen bim Night before? Seeing that man in a wild He was in Puerto Rico. Nah, I was in Jersey. You see, I snuck into Inglewood Theater on the low. Well you shot back right at the right back seeing Brian McKnight, he was like any time reaching now for me, I would have loved this, see it, yo, This guy like, wait, kowit's been at it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: But the only art that I've seen, the only artist I've seen vocally sing like that in years, was like Luther Vandews. This guy really scary. Sneaking the h next time you he's in the city, you were just sneaking, sitting in the back, You're gonna be like, yo, this guy is fucking he caught a body on Broadway. This guy Brian mcno Rightman, I grew up on Brian mknight, Brian m knight, Boys and Man, that was that was kind of the era of music that I like, really started taking music series.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to be Wayanney Morris. I want to be in the group. You know, it's crazy. I'm watching Brian McKnight the whole time.

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Speaker 4: I'm saying, Yo, this guy could have been in fucking Boys Cement. The whole show I'm watching, I'm thinking, you know, my music or whatever, you know, how we it's tapping my brain. I'm like, Yo, this guy could have been a fucking fourth member of Boys Samanda easily.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, the era when it was a little bit older than Boys.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but what I'm saying is vocally, vocally and aesthetically, this guy could have been in Boys to Men.

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Speaker 2: They did.

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Speaker 1: They did one joint together. It was a Christmas joint. Let us know whatever. Let yeah, that's gu's the only.

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Speaker 2: Joint they ever did together. But that was a joint. Still, that's crazy. Who do you think you line up with?

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Speaker 4: Like if I just went to Neo radio, who whatever artist would they play on a radio?

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Speaker 2: That's a good question. Well, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, not saying that I'm on some level that's above anybody else. They gonna play some Michael Jackson on there.

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Speaker 4: I mean definitely, so I definitely play my inspirations absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike Prince, you know what I'm saying. I grew up in Vegas, so like the rat Pack was a major, major thing for me. So like you might hear, you might hear some old Sainty Davis Jr. And that thing something like that. But he had an era where I like really started taking music. Series was Voyeman, Brian McKnight, uh Joasy before you know, Drew Hill, and I was like that whole I really started, uh like really started looking at like I.

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Speaker 2: Could do this for a living. It was able to meet m J.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, Mike, it was. It was weird. It was cool, but it was weird because it's like, so mind you when I first, when I when I first, when they first set up the meeting, my assistant was supposed to call me before Mike called me to let me know the Mike that he that somebody gave Mike my number he was gonna call me, but Mike actually called me first.

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Speaker 2: So when I picked up the phone, we're doing that and it's Michael Jackson.

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Speaker 4: I hung up immediately because I thought somebody happened to me four times today.

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Speaker 2: The bank kept calling from a five to five. I'm like, yo, I'm next to my wife the bits key saying.

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Speaker 4: Hi, this is Johnna. I'm like, yo, are we calling this off to the phone right now? I don't even know mishaps. It's me from TD Bank. I'm like, well, why you ain't say that? Ship you call it from a five five? Lead you with your first name? Hold on mom?

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, not doing that. Who's that? Don't know what happened?

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Speaker 1: So I hung up and then my assistant called me like, yo, are you sitting down young now? Michael Jackson about to call you in ten minutes.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, nigga.

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Speaker 4: Michael Jackson called me ten minutes ago, and I hung him in his face. You almost fired? You almost fired. You wanted to die that you hung up on Michael Jackson. Oh my god, that's that's so anyway, So we got back on the phone, did you Johnson?

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Speaker 2: No? I lied right away. I lied.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, it was. It was a bad reception, bro. I was dropping under the bridge and the joint just dropped. He sounded like Michael Jackson.

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Speaker 2: He sounded like, Hey, how you doing, I'm good. Who was this? It's Michael, Michael, Michael Jackson. A cool click nah. And then when you spoke, have Michael Jackson got my phone on Michael Jackson? Yeah? Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So first I didn't know Michael was tall. Michael was like six two sixty three.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that either. Maybe maybe he was tall in my head. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: When he walked in the room, the nigga was ten feet tall. When he walked, he had on a black suit. He had av the sunglasses that was mirrored that he didn't take off the whole time.

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Speaker 2: He was there for like an hour.

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Speaker 1: He did not take the glasses off the whole time. And we sat we talked about music. When he first walked in the room, he said, Oh my god, you know what my favorite song of yours is? And I'm like, favorite song of mine? You know that that's my favorite song of mine?

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Speaker 2: That's nuts. It was nuts. It was nuts. But what was his favorite song? With your go on girl? He's on where every about me?

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Speaker 1: I'm fine that joint and he sang it and I turned into a twelve year old girl instantly.

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Speaker 4: I kept it in though I kept it gene like. That's that's the no, no, no crab man. You know Michael Jackson. I probably he's one of the rugs. Michael Jackson walked in there. I was gonna ask him, did he dropped his flat? You're I say they say Michael was an m was a gang member. I don't know if he dropped his flag before he met you or not.

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Speaker 2: He kept right. You know, some people.

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Speaker 4: Say I've heard that Michael Jackson was say Michael from the sixties, right, you want to say it was a gang member? No another flag?

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Speaker 2: I need proof. It's a picture floating around him doing something. Yes, I've seen it. I said, let me tell you something.

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Speaker 4: I would have cried if I would have met Michael Jackson. He's the one guy would have cried like I just I ain't gonna lie to you.

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Speaker 2: It's like he was.

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Speaker 4: From out of an another world. He was other like people. That's my favorite rapper fact. Joe Mother is different. You see Michael Jackson. Man, listen, you want to die? You said crying from Michael Jackson and can't Nobody even make fun of you.

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Speaker 2: It's like, it's Michael Jackson. How you don't like I kept I can't change your life? You crying for the mic?

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Speaker 1: The only reason I did because I felt like, all right, he probably get this all the time.

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Speaker 2: Let me let me try to try to ship my composure. But it was cool. We sat, talked about music.

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Speaker 1: We we actually started working on some stuff that he was supposed to record after the the This is It tour was o but you know, he passed before we got a chance to do it. So talk about Prince Prince Man. So Prince saved my life and he.

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Speaker 2: Don't really he don't realize wow.

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Speaker 1: But uh so after You're the Gentleman was like my best my best selling album. One Grammys for that album, and then right after that we did Leaver Scale Right, Lever Scale. I just got off of I did like two movies, so I kind of had the movie bug. So I went to the label like, yo, so I want to do like a thirty minute mini movie and like let the album be the soundtrack to the movie.

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Speaker 2: They was like, oh, yeah, that's dope. That's dope. Who's gonna write the script? I got it. I take care of it. I don't know about writing scripts. I'm not to write a song on all right, script, So they like I had thirty minutes. Sorry, cool, So I bring in the script.

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Speaker 1: So in the world of writing scripts, a page it craze to a minute, So thirty pages is thirty minutes. My script had one hundred and forty five pages, yes, and it was like nothing many about him. Nah, this ain't gonna work, so I had to bust it down to thirty right. Basically, long story short, the album came out, it was kind of all over the place. The story was weird, like people didn't get it. The album didn't do well at all, right, So I was kind of down because like we had just came off the high of Year the Gentleman, and then it was like like the shit we went double Glass. Anyway, so that year we got invited to Princes's Grammy party.

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Speaker 2: He was store a Grammy party.

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Speaker 1: So we go to the party and mind you, I'm in there and I'm excited because we had Princess joining, but at the saint time, I'm like bummed out because.

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Speaker 4: Like, man, I'm not doing well. It recently had just dropped the album.

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Speaker 1: We had just dropped the album. The album came out, didn't do didn't do the numbers, you know what I'm saying. The singles was kind of moving, but not really like it was.

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Speaker 2: It was. It was. It was a bad way. It's a bad way.

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Speaker 1: So we go to the party and we're standing there and like, I'm there, but I'm not there, Prince. It's in a pool house at Princess House, so like everybody's standing on top of the pool. It was like a plexiglass ship on top of the pool and everybody's partying on the pool. He's in the corner with his band's jamming, right, they just playing whatever. He sees me, puts his guitar down, b lines through the crowd straight to me. It comes on to me and says, labor Skill is a good album. Don't let nobody take you different and walked on. And from that moment I was like, you know what, I don't give a damn what the critics say. I don't care what nobody say. Prince said is good. It's good. I'm good and I and like it restored my desire.

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Speaker 2: I did me with it. I was like, man, I was messed up behind him.

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Speaker 2: Now I say I cut people off, so I let you get the Prince story.

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Speaker 4: You off, But how did the label act with you when it went double blacks?

00:23:17
Speaker 2: You know how that thing goes? I'm asking dog.

00:23:20
Speaker 1: They there for all the celebration when things go well and when things go.

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Speaker 2: Bad, as your fuck. Let me tell you something.

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Speaker 4: You know. I had the album win double platinum, tell us one still with. They had a fucking picture of me six stories high in Atlantic Rects. The fucking picture was six stories hot. I'm cutting They swapped it out for TI.

00:23:43
Speaker 2: I'm not going there.

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Speaker 4: What I'm going is they gassed me to put out an album and Christmas time when Mariah carried jay Z, miss Elliot at this.

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Speaker 3: This, but it's doing you in the traffic with or Lamb McGee. You forgast me and I'm over here.

00:24:01
Speaker 4: I'm over here telling them, yo, this is a bad idea.

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Speaker 2: This is at this. I don't think you think we're gonna sell like Missy.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna sell like Jayson you're the big guy fourth quarter this that I didn't know that back then they were getting paid on the ship. So if your last album sold two million, they shipped two million, they get paid the ready. So whether you sell ten records or twenty, like that album that went Double Glass, they made their money.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they shipped that a million dollars. They always make their money. They always make their money.

00:24:31
Speaker 4: So my point is when the ship flopped, maybe like a month later, the guy who insisted and gassed me, I'll say it, Craig content gasped me.

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Speaker 2: Guy dropped that album.

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Speaker 4: I saw him at like the MTV Music Awards, and I was.

00:24:51
Speaker 2: Like, yo, hey, Craig, and the man in real life got.

00:24:56
Speaker 4: Up, looked at me, and ran away from me like I had as a he tried.

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Speaker 2: V I was like, yo, Breg.

00:25:01
Speaker 4: He was like, motherfucker, got up at it like and I realized at that point.

00:25:08
Speaker 2: I see, Yo, these people don't give a fuck.

00:25:11
Speaker 4: Now it's the same guy I'm sitting on his couch telling him, Yo, let's not drop, Let's not this.

00:25:17
Speaker 2: You know.

00:25:18
Speaker 4: You know, as soon as that album flopped, t I posted went up shit crazy man. So that's why I'm asking that's how I go. No, you know what I had, that's crazy. I had caught up the bigges come like cause like, so Jay's crazy. This is right when Jay had became president over there. So it was Jay and Tai. That's pretty much. Yet through the whole recording of.

00:25:40
Speaker 1: Pretty much All My Ship, and like Tata is one of them niggas that just he can't not keep it real. So like he like Tata was a nigga that told me. He was like, Yo, I need to understand. Nobody in the building believes that you're gonna do anything.

00:25:51
Speaker 2: I just need you to know that. I need you understand that with that album.

00:25:54
Speaker 1: Now we're our first album before the first album came out, like they signed me and I I want to believe they signed me as a tax right off, because they didn't. They didn't think because he came to he was like, listen, I'm gonna let you know now. You know, sitting around with all the A and rs, nobody really you ain't got too many people in your corn.

00:26:11
Speaker 2: I'm just let you know that.

00:26:12
Speaker 4: And I'm like, I couldn't do nothing but appreciate the fact that he kept that rid shut up the time.

00:26:17
Speaker 2: Well who are the rs. So my thing, I got a different type of like you let him finish, he just finished. It was this thort that was you finished. Yeah I did, I did, I did get he finished that there.

00:26:33
Speaker 4: I've been very patient, Yo, patiently, I've been very patient.

00:26:44
Speaker 2: No.

00:26:44
Speaker 1: I What I was saying was I have I had one or two folks in the building that was actually ryding for me, whether we won or lost.

00:26:51
Speaker 2: Like like Tie and Jay, they was they was. They was good to me.

00:26:55
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, even if it was a winner or lose, even to the deliver scas situation, that was like, we'll get them next time.

00:27:00
Speaker 4: They like they was, they was damn sure, damn straight exactly, it was good. My thing is who the fuck is the A and R guys?

00:27:11
Speaker 2: Right? You know them? Who? I don't know them?

00:27:14
Speaker 4: So you come in there, you create, you tell your life story, you make hit records, and they get credit. I never liked that ship, man, I mean, I fucking never like that ship. Every time a fucking artist comes out saying Lizo or somebody Cardi B or whoever's a sensation, some guy comes stand next to them and takes the credit with them at the Grammys that they don't even fucking know it. They never even talk to they never even sawt them. They never nothing, no recommendation, nothing staying up there like they did some ship. I never like that ship. Ever, somebody else taking credit beat up a knowledge. No, I don't want to beat up nobody. I don't want to beat up nobody, right, But what I'm trying to tell you is I really want to know when they and R Baby briefed two big beats.

00:28:07
Speaker 3: Well, how you're gonna start finding? No, no, no, no, wait, A lot of good for the gate. A lot of them is fucked up, but it's some good ones.

00:28:15
Speaker 2: I never had it. Hell, it's you.

00:28:18
Speaker 4: I was my an r my first four albums. If somebody came and says she was a model for the year they bought.

00:28:24
Speaker 3: That beat, No, I mean did bring me the Virginia the for real? He didn't write that's my fucking word. But he took me to meet for real. So that's the get the wrong he introduced you to. I tell you like this, The Beyonce record might not have happened if not for Tati. It might not have happened because I didn't write that record originally for Beyonce. There's a bunch of record that went on Rihanna's album that I didn't write for Rihanna.

00:28:52
Speaker 2: But because Tata was always there, Like every time I was in the studio, he was it.

00:28:57
Speaker 1: I mean with they set up like like four days for Britney Spearsualan, Right, yeah, she's gonna come in and whatever whatever. She never showed four they she never showed. But every song that I wrote for her, I was there. He's like, yo, let me get a copy of that. And then two weeks later he's like, oh, yeah, we gave that to Rihanna. Yeah, we get it to Beyonce. Yeah, we get that to this one whatever. So like he was like, that was great.

00:29:16
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not people about Tata specifically.

00:29:18
Speaker 4: I'm talking about the world of A and R's a lot of these guys don't do shit, and they got too much to say about what the single is.

00:29:26
Speaker 2: How they know this.

00:29:27
Speaker 4: You know how many times we've seen the artists come out pure talent and blow up and then all of a sudden, the A and R try to start telling them what to do, what should they shoot or how they should look cause this throw away, this this ship My first deal is when I when I had my experience with kind of crappy A and RS like, so I got signed to Columbia.

00:29:49
Speaker 2: That was my first my first record. God like you right, you're so fucking talent. Imagine now we know the story.

00:29:58
Speaker 4: Now twenty years in your fucking super producer, super mega start this this that you starting the game. You got all this fucking talent. You know, God gave you all this talent. There's somebody trying to direct you and tell you what it is with and you sitting here looking at him like is this shit crazy? But I was dreen though I ain't know no better. I was just happy to have a deal. So like whatever they was telling me to do, who I did it?

00:30:22
Speaker 1: Like, nah, I don't write through thieves cats right with these cats now, I don't wear that where it is type shit. So like we finished the album for Columbia and I'm looking at the shit and I'm like, I don't I don't recognize the nigg on the cover, I don't recognize the music, Like this ain't me. This is this is who they wanted to Like they try to turn me into like baby Tyresha somebody, right, So I went back into the label, like, yo, is it coolest? Maybe I go in and you know, cut one or two more records that kind of kind of fit who I am. And they was like, well, I mean we would let you, but your budget is depleted. And I'm like, at the moment, at that time, that was the most money I ever had in life, so I knew where the money was going. I'm like, nah, this much studio time costs this, this costs that we should have at least this left.

00:31:03
Speaker 4: Right.

00:31:04
Speaker 1: That's when I learned that every time they cast the flies to New York and take us to mister Childs and throw.

00:31:09
Speaker 2: That credit card down, yeah, how about you flying him? Yeah?

00:31:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, how you trying them whenever they swiped that card. That's that's that was my budget and I didn't know, and of course they're not gonna tell you. So yeah, that was That was my first experience with A and R. It just was on the take listen when you from listening to you, he ain't listen for me listening to you, it sounds like a lot of the songs you wrote for people, you didn't write for people.

00:31:37
Speaker 2: They happened to you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, it happens like that a lot.

00:31:41
Speaker 1: Donestly, like you know, it's it's you give somebody first write a refusal and if they don't, if they don't see it, they don't see it all right, But that don't mean the song is whack.

00:31:48
Speaker 2: I don't mean you can't use it. So it'll go somewhere, see now. But they fucking j Lo wrote that.

00:31:53
Speaker 4: Uh well, at least half, that's what Faith said on the interview, and uh you it was j Loo's song. She passed on it and Faith kept it and that ship turned into a funck there. It was one of my favorite fi is hitting the world that ship. I mean, that's that's how that ship goes, especially for songwriting. You know, you don't know what the good thing that Tata did. He had your best interest because you need somebody.

00:32:18
Speaker 3: In there.

00:32:20
Speaker 5: Passing it off, like Yo, this is mad. You know I did that, right, yo, yo, yo yo, you already said I did that. The album did Usher.

00:32:34
Speaker 4: I'm gonna give you two the album that Usher did with Rico Love a lot of and Rico super producer a lot of them songs I was in the studio with and Usher wasn't sure. He was like, yo, I don't know this this and I'm like, yo, bro, this guy's the hottest guy in the game. I did the same thing with Kelly Rowland with the Joint that we co wrote for, because at the time she had like an ed M so on that she was about to go all the.

00:33:01
Speaker 2: Way over there.

00:33:02
Speaker 4: She was like, I'm going eatim like, and I'm like, yo, you know, you know you that's this child like you know, the hit was right, it was so much of a hit.

00:33:14
Speaker 2: I was like, Yo, this you crazy if you're not cutting this this this is a smash hit, you know.

00:33:20
Speaker 4: And sometimes people want to get a little outside voice to say, all right, man, maybe I should fuck with it, and they fuck with it.

00:33:27
Speaker 2: You know this.

00:33:28
Speaker 6: You know.

00:33:28
Speaker 4: It's certain hits that I did that I ain't like because to me, they were like sell out hits, Like I just knew it was going to be a hit like that. You know, when you manufactory hit. There's a way to manufacture a hit, to be like a formula. This is the sound, This is the formula. Get the homie on the hook, get this and it's a hit. And I never liked it because like I was cheating the system label way. I never forget the game to see me. They was like, yo, you need Americans. Then the instructions of it byther do it pretty much step one, step two. But you feel you feel like you cheated the game. I mean me, I mean thank god I still make money to this day off of it. But I felt like I cheated the game when when when I did, when I did something, that ship wasn't number one too. So you have an here billboard.

00:34:19
Speaker 2: You have it.

00:34:20
Speaker 4: You can hear when something is going to be like the one. Now let's go back to Craig count. The only real shit he ever said to me was he said, you're not beyoncet. We said, if you put out The only real shit he ever said to me was you not Beyonce. If your song doesn't do good is in the next song. It's crazy because you got that fucking hat off. I remember I walked in that land. I told Atlantic, I fucking up the whole office. I walked in there, all five thousand employees was out the building.

00:34:55
Speaker 2: That shit was like some boiez this.

00:35:00
Speaker 4: I said, I'm going in there because they didn't want to shoot that video. And then I got up to that terror squad. Fact I'm beating everybody up in the office five o'clock. I'm walking in That shit was a ghost OUMP. Only one guy stood there. Man recipe is Rodney Johnson. Man he's tried to explain it to me, said, Joe, we told you that if the record don't do good, you can't do it ying. So basically they were like, yo, look you got one shot. If it hits, you get another one. So I had to almost train my ears like I was a programmed director to know what they would play on a Sunday in South Carolina.

00:35:36
Speaker 2: And I knew I would play.

00:35:37
Speaker 4: These songs and be like Joe, they'll play this shit in South Carolina or Arizona. So I had to train myself, and I knew if I didn't, if it wasn't a hit, I'm fucked.

00:35:48
Speaker 1: So that's a skill in itself, Like I don't have that, Like I'll be so close to the music that I can't hear the one shot to my man, Tango Tango is my manager, been my manager for twenty years. When I first met this nigga, he ain't have a radio in his car talking about I'm gon manage your music career.

00:36:03
Speaker 2: Niggy, don't even listen to music. He's like, no, no, no, no, no, I don't know music. I don't know.

00:36:07
Speaker 4: He broudut us and I know people, and I'm like I and to this day, every single that I've had that went tangle was like, it's this one and mind it'll be shipped like like nigg.

00:36:18
Speaker 1: I spent five days on this record. This one I did in like twenty minutes. He was like, bruh, it's that one, and sure Closer. I did not believe in Closer.

00:36:27
Speaker 2: I didn't.

00:36:27
Speaker 1: I didn't think the Closer was for me. I literally wrote it, sell it. It was Tango and jay Z that was like, YO, keep that ship, trust me, keep it. We put the joint out for the first three months nothing. Nobody gave a fuck it. They didn't get it to the point where we went to the lake. We went to the lab where La re called.

00:36:43
Speaker 2: Us saying on some YO, I think it's time to switch singles.

00:36:46
Speaker 1: Before I walked into LA office, Jay was like, yo, Elli about to tell you get off that record.

00:36:51
Speaker 2: Do not get off that record.

00:36:53
Speaker 1: But even I was like, br this it ain't working man, Why would we eat? Like YO, trust me, stay on that record, all right? So we still on the record.

00:37:00
Speaker 2: We did the BT Awards that year after that performance.

00:37:04
Speaker 4: Man, we never looked back. I don't but I don't have everybody what's the what's the recipe for a hit? I couldn't tell you.

00:37:12
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get in the studio and do it feel good to me and then hand it off to the folks that had that ear like that, because I don't got that, Like, don't let me pick the thing's crazy reasy, you can't you got I don't know what. I can't pick the it's what feels. I go off of what feels good to me, you know what I'm saying. That's that's as far as I can take it. I don't know this audience is gonna do this and that on that. That's that's a whole other skill set that I just I don't do that part.

00:37:38
Speaker 2: Don't do that part.

00:37:38
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go in, I'm gonna cut the record, and then I'm gonna pass it off to the person and goes a yeah, this is for this market.

00:37:44
Speaker 2: That's for that market. Like, realize, my job make to sell records. My job is to make music.

00:37:49
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna make the music and then give it to the person whose job at it record. That's that's that's how I work.

00:37:54
Speaker 3: Fifteen Grammy nominations, three Grammy wins that.

00:38:00
Speaker 2: Feel it feels good, but at the same time state digit Grammys.

00:38:05
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

00:38:06
Speaker 4: So it's like I got more work. Also, you know Stevie you brought up with that Teve Wonder. Stevie Wonder is the last American they.

00:38:16
Speaker 2: Got no Grammy's dude, there's a lot of people with no, I ain't got no Grammys trying to get that's it. That's the ship. You your mass your man pou like on it. Yeah, I ain't got ship. But what you should say? He said he's mad at three.

00:38:34
Speaker 4: I said, I ain't mad at I got mixed feelings at that. I got mixed feelings about the Grammys. Yeah, it would be great to have a Grammy.

00:38:46
Speaker 2: Uh, I don't like that.

00:38:48
Speaker 4: When someone dies, they immediately Grammy nominated a Grammy. What what makes Grammy?

00:38:54
Speaker 2: Holy? Your thanou?

00:38:55
Speaker 6: Like?

00:38:56
Speaker 2: What makes that word Grammy?

00:38:58
Speaker 4: Like any artist dies from any genre to go Grammy winner Grammy?

00:39:03
Speaker 2: That what what is it? What?

00:39:05
Speaker 4: Like?

00:39:06
Speaker 2: Who are they? Because they get it wrong all the time, Like you think, what what song you you had.

00:39:13
Speaker 4: I can tell you mins what song you had that that you lost, That you lost the Grammy that you knew for a fact you.

00:39:21
Speaker 2: Should have want.

00:39:21
Speaker 1: Oh, come on me and Pitt Bull Time of our life. No, no, no, not that time Allied Give me everything, Give me Everything was the song of six Summers. And because we didn't turn it in on time, we didn't get we wasn't eligible for the grammar.

00:39:33
Speaker 2: How crazy is that? Shit isn't that?

00:39:35
Speaker 4: I just did a song show with Pitt two days ago and they had people with board heads in the fucking crowd.

00:39:41
Speaker 2: I thought it was attack of the Aliens. That's like his merchandise. Oh yeah, year you buy some shit right and they look like fucking aliens.

00:39:50
Speaker 4: I say, y'all too far from home for the aliens to attack Presno, California. I gotta be in the Bronze shooting ship up. I can't beat out there. They're gonna turn me into the Vota Loco ship. I was like, Yo, I'm too far from all for all these alien motherfuckers in the crowd like that ship.

00:40:07
Speaker 2: But merchants bull heads bad that you put over your head like the skull, like the scull. You're like the sleek stats and ship like that, your ship all the way like it's weird you made yo.

00:40:21
Speaker 4: When you become a Halloween costume, that's when you know you made it. Man, every Halloween I'm Mozepic. I don't know, but the crowd ain't Halloween. I'm Oh Zeppich every Halloween.

00:40:33
Speaker 2: Oh you put the box on, you put you got the soul.

00:40:38
Speaker 4: Zippy. Every year, I'm Joe Zeppek. I'm battling fuck you know you're you're talking about country. I'm battling your jelly row skinny.

00:40:47
Speaker 2: Like a motherfucker.

00:40:48
Speaker 6: Man.

00:40:48
Speaker 4: Look you seen jelly bro lately, fucking sex symbol. He up there, he's taking my slot right now.

00:40:56
Speaker 2: Paus pause. Oh shit, he was just recently on Constant nots my field. Yeah, man, what was that experience? Like the young jeez? I mean, I felt like the old nigga. I really did. It was. It was catching that it literally did not know who I was.

00:41:19
Speaker 4: I had I had a T shirt on with with Neo on the T shirt, not me but Neo from the movie that Makes Nature, and the nigga didn't know who that was.

00:41:26
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, onld you what was in there? He was like he was like fifteen sixteen, I'm like, god, he all right, But it was cool.

00:41:36
Speaker 1: It was cool because Kai is like, uh, like you could you could tell he got like, dude got a marketing and business mind, real like he's serious with that. But it was a cool situation like I've done, you know, to sit down on the couch in the studio audience and all of that, and you know it's all organizing ship. But in there it's like whatever he thinks he gonna say it, whatever the little niggas behind him think they gonna just say it.

00:41:59
Speaker 4: And that's just and what That's what people are not understanding. People from our era are not understanding.

00:42:06
Speaker 2: Now.

00:42:07
Speaker 4: These young kids don't give a fuck about you and ig with your feelter, with your this. They don't want the fake shit they want to fuck up in front of them all a stream. They want to see if it's real or not, if you this and this and that, all that fake shit that you could stage ship and ship like.

00:42:22
Speaker 2: That, that's no longer.

00:42:23
Speaker 4: The motherfucker took Homeboy, the world's fastest man that nigga had, He had movies with him chasing gorillas and fucking shit that your meg on what speed blewis fucking ankles off in front of every They don't want to face shit, no minds.

00:42:39
Speaker 2: They're not going for the fake shit. These young kids, they want to all right, you could do it, you could do it. Yeah, hey, if you didn't do it, nice trip. But we know the real shit. That's what the stream ship is all about.

00:42:51
Speaker 4: But I'll tell you one thing about Constant. They all young, but they all know to book Leo give a Dashian. All the people of our age group is on there, Kevin hart snoop. They're not fucking dumb. They know who got the real fans that tune in so they could play all that young ship. But they all tapping into that culture too, you know what I mean.

00:43:15
Speaker 2: So don't think we ain't there there straight up. No, it is your boy kids, Joe crack. Check it out. We got a Patreon.

00:43:30
Speaker 3: You can get exclusive clips, you can get early access to the episodes, a lot of surprises. Owen is subscribed.

00:43:45
Speaker 2: You know that they're right now because it's free.

00:43:47
Speaker 3: You're giving you the first onep of prier that that is going to be a little difficult over there right now, Joe and Jada Patrion.

00:43:55
Speaker 4: Let's get wild wild Western beauties, Jo Neo, I gotta keep it real with you, right because lately being there we're podcasters.

00:44:10
Speaker 2: Now it's crazy because.

00:44:12
Speaker 4: All the artists, not you, but all the artists seem to come in here and don't want to talk about what everybody want to hear them talk about out there.

00:44:23
Speaker 2: You got four wives, what kind of pressure do you buy? Is it like Muslim? Do you gotta buy the same bag for the same Like you know what mine is mine? You definitely gotta have a bag that have four wives you have?

00:44:39
Speaker 1: I mean what Okay, it's there's a mindset that the woman has to have in order to be able to share. Man, you know what I'm saying, Like it's literally gota she literally gotta think a different way. If you got four women that want breaking bags, you got the wrong for it. So they got a different mentality. It's it's it's community's family. It's it's like everybody doing something. It's like it's like a village where everybody do something. Everybody got a job.

00:45:08
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

00:45:09
Speaker 1: If you're the only person taking care of everything you do, that's not how supposed to go. Everybody's supposed to kind of pitch in together, like I have seven kids on my own, you know, one of them got a daughter. Of them got two kids. And it's like, okay, so I don't have seven kids. I got nine kids. And that's fine because we all come together like this one's washing dishes, this one changing diapers.

00:45:29
Speaker 2: If it need be, this one doing that. Everybody does you think it's a traditional way? Yeah, I gotta did you have to do how did you? How did you? Did you have to do an interview? How the hell did you know? How did you do this? I just what's you on tour? Just like all right, she could be part of the family. She could be like how did you do it? And how did you do it? Full time? So okay.

00:45:56
Speaker 1: So after my after my divorce you my very public, very ugly divorce, I realized that just through being dishonest, I heard a lot of people. I heard I heard a lot of people, and I decided at that moment, I don't never want to be a reason nobody should like. So from that moment, I was like, I'm gonna just keep it a buck with everybody about everything being good, bad, ugly, whatever, I'm gonna keep it a buck. I don't ask me if the dress make you look fat, if you don't really want to hear the as handles, I'm gonna tell you straight up right.

00:46:27
Speaker 2: So one of the ones that I'm been around a little longer than the other ones.

00:46:30
Speaker 1: So I basically just set it down, like listen, if you know I rock with you, we've been rocking for for forever, do this through that we've been rocking.

00:46:36
Speaker 2: I love you, I do, but it ain't just you. I'm also rocking with this one and this one. So nan could love more than one more than absolutely absolutely.

00:46:45
Speaker 4: I wanted to say your I'm throwing you out this motherfucker you'll take Let them said the fucking question.

00:46:52
Speaker 2: I say that full what you ain't got full? Walk? I see somebody interrupt and didn't tell you you like you can love more than you can love more than one woman. This is the ship. Men won't say married. Man won't not say that. This is this ship.

00:47:10
Speaker 4: Men won't say they can't because because you got more. So that's how it goes. What do we call that in America?

00:47:16
Speaker 2: Like, it's it's polygamy.

00:47:18
Speaker 4: It's polyamory is they're not married, it's polygamy if you're married, and polygamy is illegal in a lot of America, so it's poly Yeah, so.

00:47:28
Speaker 2: A lot of there's a lot of pig horsepower.

00:47:31
Speaker 4: And listen, first of all, me, I'm abused. I'm appused, like I'm lyrically abused. Some of my friends come to the house. They fucking they gonna light candles for me, like I'm sitting there like our Bundy God, and I'm like, watch the TV. It's very hard to get me upset. But for them doing that ship at the same time. But he don't happen like that.

00:47:56
Speaker 1: It don't happen like that because I'm I'm very, very very adamant about drawing the line of the saying. It's like, listen, I'm gonna hear you out. I'm gonna let you say what it is you need to say. But once we started going here, you lost me anyway, so you might as well.

00:48:09
Speaker 4: When I when I was thinking about asking you this question, I'm thinking, so what you got like a giant bed, like a big fucking giant the.

00:48:15
Speaker 2: Last last king that's I need. That king is like fuck me in the Alaskan King only to double together like double king. I only think I heard of California and something else. I heard it. I never heard of it. Last heard of.

00:48:40
Speaker 4: Joe fat Joe deserving the Alaskan King. Who fat Joe deserves in the Alaskan King?

00:48:47
Speaker 2: I guess you number because you can't buy an Alaska king.

00:48:51
Speaker 1: You gotta get made. You gotta you gotta get somebody to make it. They gotta come in and build yourself.

00:48:55
Speaker 2: They're gonna build its like a giant bed. Yes, what it's about, Comfortbud, You're an inspiration. Neil, I like it.

00:49:10
Speaker 1: We're gonna live vicarious sneak through you and hope it works out. Everything is good, man, Everything is good again. We we have problems, just like just like monogas relationships. All that ship is real. You're gonna argue over stuff, but again, at the end of the day, as long as you are ahead of household and everybody understands that, then arguments don't last on.

00:49:29
Speaker 2: Like you know, I'm again, let you get it out and let you say what you gotta say. I'm gonna hear you. But once it's done, it's done. We're not good. You think a broke man can have four women in the alasking Uh?

00:49:40
Speaker 1: If you do it the right way, because again it's not It's also listen, all women ain't going it's not gonna worry not rocking with that certain behind a woman.

00:49:49
Speaker 2: She got it.

00:49:50
Speaker 1: She gotta have a certain mindset if she's gonna do it, because if she do, if she's the kind of woman again that she needs birthday and all this.

00:49:57
Speaker 2: What's your question? I got questions? How fall apart? Because you know how you said you had one that was with you for a while. How what was the different? No?

00:50:09
Speaker 4: No, no, How quick did it take to get the other three on board? It wasn't It didn't take a long time. I kind of set up at dinner. I told I told the one that I want you to meet I want you to meet the other ones. Initially it was just three, So I told the one that I wanted her to meet the other two. I set up the door where the last one comes from. One.

00:50:29
Speaker 2: She she's one of my one of my dances. She's the newest. Yeah, it's one of my dancers. So country inspired. Yes, it's gonna have some country, but it's still gonna have some of that. Yeah.

00:50:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, I cannot be me, but it's it's like everything that I love about country music mixed with what it is that I normally do.

00:50:51
Speaker 4: And you've got the tour in the Vegas Residency Comyeah, yeah, man, I'm proud of that. Grew up in Vegas, it's definitely. And that's the high school in Vegas, the All nine. So to be able to go back and do something like that, that's I could live in Vegas.

00:51:06
Speaker 3: You know, we got songs together. So when it gets you know, she gave me a call, figure, you could give me a call say less.

00:51:14
Speaker 2: No, come yo, I come with them? You want me to do?

00:51:23
Speaker 4: I come with I'm attached. They think I bring Jata kiss with me. I'm walking the wild wat seven of them? Yo is Jada like yo, bro look at me like like I'm in the PI. I'm in the win up for something like what the fuck y'all think? He comes here? It's included still.

00:51:41
Speaker 2: Package steal.

00:51:43
Speaker 4: On kne y'all man, uh, Five of your favorite artists of all time. And I'm gonna make it even easier for you. I'm a say writers, no, no group groups? Five groups, that's hard R and B. Let's go song right five?

00:51:57
Speaker 2: Five? What you did you want? Let me get your best five songs right? Just at least you know this is a hard question.

00:52:06
Speaker 4: So Babyface, Uh, Smokey Robinson mm hmmm uh smoking is writing all that ship? Jontay Austin, My God, je Monster, the Dream Yeah, yeah yeah.

00:52:22
Speaker 1: And the fifth gotta go with Lina Richie. Yo, niggas don't understand.

00:52:28
Speaker 4: Well, niggas don't say he's a nigga nigga like before you go with with that, because I love line of Richie. But but I've had this argument with some real street R and B singers that they don't rate him because they feel like he was lollypop or something.

00:52:46
Speaker 2: Now what do you think? Nah?

00:52:47
Speaker 4: Nah okay son undeath the Commodorees and then went over into the like Lina Richard took Publisher of the Year two years in a row, not a publishing company, Lionel Richie by hisself, of that's an award that goes to publishing companies.

00:53:04
Speaker 2: Publisher look it up. Publisher of a Year Lina rich twice twice. I love. I mean that man was putting numbers on.

00:53:11
Speaker 4: But this argument with like people, you that's because he didn't keep it R and B like he went R and B, then he went pop.

00:53:19
Speaker 2: Then he went country. He like, hello, if you got that, you're supposed to do that you're looking for No, no, no, no, no no. I love line of rich Man. You can't do that far of the like hello me see you know how this shit go hip hop R and B. It's always a debate, of course.

00:53:35
Speaker 4: So I'm sitting down with some of the most respected R and B singers of all time, and I'm surprised when line come up they like, yeah, he ain't like you know, I'm like, huh man, no fucking Richie Man. Caps feel like, because you do one thing well, you're supposed to stay there. And it's like, nah, what if you do six things well? Like I'm not If I'm giving the gift, I'm gonna use it. Like Lina, Richie could write R and B, but he could also right pop. You could also right country. He can do all that, so why would he not do it? No, no, no, no, I ain't walk.

00:54:06
Speaker 2: You can't front one. I know what he's at all.

00:54:08
Speaker 4: You name some serious ones smoking Robinson tell ship might be my favorite songwriter. You know that's the that's the weirdest one. Like we're cool with a lot of people, but you know, I'm actually cool with Babyface. That that's that's no. Don't throw the ship. He come to my birthday party and singing at my birth Don't do that.

00:54:32
Speaker 2: You're gonna lie.

00:54:34
Speaker 4: Don't throw that. Don't throw that. Don't throw that. You're gonna look crazy out here. You look crazy with Joey Badass. Now you say Babyface. I go to dinner with baby Face all the time. He's my friend. This is what I'm trying to tell you. He's one of the weirdest relationships I have in my life. Diddy yet Oh there go fu nigga call cat, I call cap on the cat.

00:54:58
Speaker 2: Well you was dad? Did he? Yo? That's my guy?

00:55:02
Speaker 4: Like what do you He's the one? Oh yeah that Joe Crack cannot believe I'm cool through this whole journey. It's like, I sit down and have dinner with Babyface and Babyface want to hear the stories capping.

00:55:15
Speaker 2: Nah, baby Face is like, Yo, Joe, tell me some ship, Yo, distance that they all do. You know what I'm saying. They want that ship that sauce. Man. You know what I man, Noah, I'm telling you the joy you want me to do?

00:55:26
Speaker 4: I said, you see a little boosy the other day on the interview. Oh, he said he a big fan of our show. He said, I know Joe about to stay some ship. You need him more, head man, we need call us up man.

00:55:39
Speaker 2: Right, Atlanta. If we're looking from the outside, then right, we need to go to Atlanta? Is what I want to go to? Atlanta? Can we go to Atlanta? Got some new I love Atlanta? You got some new ventures. You started a golf line.

00:55:51
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, yeah, Olago Sport. So my man is the tango talking about earlier? He been playing golf forever and trying to get me out there. And I never, like, I'm young, I don't play golf, Like the pants is weird, I'm not doing it.

00:56:03
Speaker 1: But he actually got me out there. One time we went to uh, who is it? Uh Reggie Jackson's uh tournament? Right, and mind REGGI jackson golf tournament is not a regular golf tournament. Like every hole they're giving away, Jordan's fucking like every hole is something different. So like I'm like, is this what he's like? This ain't how golf normally is. But yeah, so I fell in love with the game. So I'm like, all right, listen, if I'm.

00:56:27
Speaker 2: Gonna do this.

00:56:28
Speaker 1: I'm not wearing that ship. Bro, Like, these things look nuts. Sorry they look nuts. Not doing so you got to make your own he's He was like, all right, we'll start of lying. So we got bags, we got we got clothes and shoes, a whole nine. It's coming together next. I'm gonna see how some stuff some stuff. Now, my the nes did you know that?

00:56:48
Speaker 2: What hell is there? Reggie Jackson missed October. This Reggie Jackson was the Spanish who changed his name to Reggie Jackson. Now, my the nest google that ship. I ain't lying to you. At the time, it wasn't cooler well as I was a laugh his name was Reggie Jackson.

00:57:08
Speaker 4: Would you better go ask Denzel Washington who told me that's that? And now don't my deep ness? Okay, and we got left. Reggie, I'm from the Bronx. That's Jackson. Reggie Jackson did all that work in the Bronx. One day I see him and I go, oh my god, Reggie Jackson. I try to go, I get held back by Denzel Washington. You see your Joe. Denzel Washington is like, I don't think you should be running up to that guy.

00:57:39
Speaker 2: I said, what do you mean? He said, that's where now, my deep nass. He denounced the Latinos when he was winning. He didn't want to save the Spanish. Wow. Wow, I don't fucking know. I don't know. So is Reggie Jackson is?

00:57:58
Speaker 4: Oh? So think also think to Reggie Jackson's credit, I also think I was in Houston at the fifty seven weekend that basketball shit I was coaching. He confronted me somehow you heard the story this think the first time I say, somebody came in front of me, Yo, Trouble's up, and I was say, yo's up, man, jack I think he wanted to get into the conversation of that hand. Mike denez we might need Reggie Jackson on this bitch right here so he can explain to us.

00:58:25
Speaker 2: That the Oven niggas dead. Dak Martine, thats ain't in all Jackson.

00:58:35
Speaker 4: Reggie Jackson is in the Hall of fair fact and now though ain't in the game right now that shit crazy man, it really is, y'all knee on my brother man.

00:58:46
Speaker 2: We thank you man for coming man and did inspect the album? Oh we got a little snippet or so, I take that your country take beautiful. Let let's play this song. What's it called? Simple thing? Oh shit?

00:59:16
Speaker 6: You put on that makeup in an hour, on your hair, our heels in that red just with the slip right up to there, and I don't mind what swetsing pony telling smiles you It just fine.

00:59:28
Speaker 2: I could do this country right here.

00:59:31
Speaker 6: You get in the kitchen, make a milk fit for a kid, burn your hands and cut your fingers, just a female girl, and I appreciate it. But how equally breaks a sandwich that you made? You can search your whole life, never to fighting with standing night in front of you. It's always several things. The way you laugh, the way you cry to your favorite song. It is all there in between. The flowers you fight on the up, you clown to keep them moving on, and nothing stop chasing spring. Find out are really amazing. This is a simple thing.

01:00:18
Speaker 2: It's always a simple crazy.

01:00:28
Speaker 4: Holy shit, thank you you have made me a country music fan, Neil, you have made me a country music fan.

01:00:39
Speaker 2: That was fucking amazing any genre right there. That ship was crazy.

01:00:43
Speaker 3: I appreciate that, Appreciate that, appreciate the love crazy for coming soon.

01:00:48
Speaker 2: I thought, I think we're dropping this. We dropping this year. I'm waiting a year, this year, next year, unaware there's some railroad for the rest of the year. That's a fact.

01:00:58
Speaker 1: The win is the tour supposed to that ship. I think the tours top of twenty twenty six. Yeah, I think I meet me and Akon moving on with Akon. Yeah, Man, that's that ship right there. You know I toured Africa with a Kon. Africa with a Kon. All right, when we get Akon it, we're gonna get him here.

01:01:21
Speaker 2: Kiss. I ain't say nothink.

01:01:23
Speaker 4: I'm prea no, no, I'm telling you I went on tour in Africa with Akon. That ship was the idly ship I ever seen in my life. No flags, Oh, congratulations on Dallas. I had the whole stadium cursing amount in the fucking rock.

01:01:40
Speaker 6: Nah.

01:01:40
Speaker 2: We was in l a.

01:01:43
Speaker 4: Me pit Bull, Little John and the Yin Yang twins, and I had to he had a Dallas ship.

01:01:47
Speaker 2: I had him shipping on him.

01:01:48
Speaker 4: I was like, this is a Dallas. He was a good sport about. I was surprised Rich wasn't cursing the whole fucking crowd.

01:01:56
Speaker 2: Out your neo man. Uh, you're always with the met over there.

01:02:01
Speaker 4: Yes, uh cool v man, my brother, man, you know what what does it feel like being Tata's little brother?

01:02:07
Speaker 2: Right, ladies, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold up here, leave my man. God, so many years I thought he was Tatah. You get that a lot. You know what I'm saying. I got your listen so many years I see then he realized, now I'm not. I'm not all of them look exactly like, exactly like, you're not Twinter.

01:02:40
Speaker 4: The same. Well, anyway, brother, you got the right one with you, brother, oh Neil, thank you for blessing the couch. Like Kis says, there's always legends, but there's there's different legends I'm noticing, and everybody's a legend. But you definitely what you've brought to the world in terms of happiness, because I gotta that that I'm a movement by myself, sir, but I'm a full swim wad together. I mean, I'm good old by myself or maybe you you make me.

01:03:14
Speaker 3: Better and you.

01:03:22
Speaker 2: Love that love? Just ain't that? Ain't this is cracking?

01:03:27
Speaker 3: Kiss giving up for new Yi think I guessed for today Joe and Shaila.

01:03:32
Speaker 2: I love you, man,