2025-12-08- KSR - Hour 2

00:00:00
Speaker 1: Looking for a mortgage bank to help you make your next major mortgage move, whether it's a refi or home purchase, regardless of whether it's your first one or one of many, consider our friends at Stockton Mortgage, but don't just take our word for it.

00:00:13
Speaker 2: Stockton Mortgage has over seventy thousand five star reviews and counting, just like this review from Joshua, who says this about his experience with Stockton. They were super professional, always answered my questions I had, and streamlined the process. I could not ask for better people to help me and my family get our first house. I feel blessed to be able to go through them. Be like Joshua or the sixty nine nine hundred ninety nine others just like him, and get started with Stockton Mortgage today by going to Stockton dot com and get started. I've even used Stockton Mortgage myself on my own home loan. For your home loan needs, Stockton dot com and click get started Stockton Mortgage MLS eight two five nine, Equal Housing Lender NMLS, Consumer Access dot Org.

00:00:59
Speaker 3: Welcome to two of Kentucky Sports Radio present it by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones welcome back.

00:01:07
Speaker 4: I remember two Tucky Sports Radio.

00:01:08
Speaker 5: If I'm nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven, text machine is seven to seven two seven four five two five four. A lot of good comments on the text machine. One person writes, Matt, you all can talk effort all you want. This team is poorly constructed. That is ultimately the problem. I don't disagree with you. It's poorly constructed. I think there's gonna be a lot of questions as to why that happened. I think Mark Pope should be asked about it, probably in the offseason, though, Shanean, you can't look at Mark Pope and go, why does your team stink?

00:01:35
Speaker 4: While they still have the rest of the game, you know what I mean? Right right right?

00:01:38
Speaker 6: And nine games into the season too, I mean yeah.

00:01:40
Speaker 5: When it's over, though, he definitely should be he asked questions about it, Which gets me to the second point of somebody saying, Matt, why don't the media press harder on Pope and talk and get him.

00:01:51
Speaker 4: To talk more about his deficiencies.

00:01:54
Speaker 5: Well, I do think the media probably should ask a little bit harder questions, but that's also easier said than done. I mean, you gotta remember think about just what happened last week with Mitch Barnhart when John Hale asked him about in Ail.

00:02:08
Speaker 4: You remember that, Ryan, what happened to John Hale?

00:02:10
Speaker 7: He got yelled at it.

00:02:14
Speaker 5: He got yelled at so like people say they want the media to do that, but then I mean these people that they yell at him, And then when that happened, you then have people who take up for Mitch and get mad at you.

00:02:27
Speaker 4: Like it's easy to say, go after these people.

00:02:30
Speaker 5: Just remember what happened to me for four years for questioning cal like you get black balled. Then you also end up getting a group of fans who get mad at you for asking anything. Heck, I'll even go back to many years ago when Jerry Tipton was here. He used to ask those kind of questions all the time, and many people and you're listening to one of them.

00:02:51
Speaker 2: Me.

00:02:51
Speaker 5: I used to criticize him for it, and in hindsight I was wrong about that. You need Jerry Tiptons. They can't all be Jerry Tipton then it's too negative. But you need one or two of them. But the problem is it's hard to be Jerry Tipton because when you're Jerry Tipton, and you asked those questions, people Ryan get mad at you.

00:03:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you need a guys always said he need has a sharp pencil like Tipton, Alan Color. Those guys are one of those people took questions.

00:03:17
Speaker 4: Yes, but that's a hard role to have because the fans get mad. Yep.

00:03:21
Speaker 5: Yeah, and sometimes and so like it's when things are bad, people always go, why don't you ask hard questions? But what you need to ask yourself is when things are good and people ask hard questions, do you get angry at them? Now that likes these reporters recoil a little bit, but go ahead, what were we gonna say?

00:03:38
Speaker 2: I'm sorry? I did like Jack Pilgrim asking Mark Pope about the DeMarcus Cousins tweet after the game. You know you haven't seen it yet, you know you gottam And.

00:03:47
Speaker 5: I thought his answer to that was good where he said like DeMarcus has a right to say that.

00:03:51
Speaker 6: He's right he said I'm out at the coach too.

00:03:53
Speaker 4: Yeah.

00:03:54
Speaker 5: I just thought that was a gonna answer by Mark on that, Drew, I think you have been certainly with Mitch Barnhardt and now with Mark Pope and even Mark Stoops. In the last year or so, you've been a really harsher critic. Does that make Do you find that difficult? Because I mean I know that leads to difficult interactions with people at UK et cetera.

00:04:15
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, and you know, I have a lot of friends at UK Athletics. I'm sure they don't love me here lately. It's it's not a fun role to play and I try not to play it. But I mean, just overall, sure, we have volleyball that's exciting coming up this week, but overall UK Athletics has been in a down spot, especially with their two big money makers lately, and for me, it just got It's gotten so bad I couldn't just sit here and put on a smile and try to be the fun guy. I mean, this has been an embarrassing run by basketball, not just with Pope, going back to the last few years of cow how that was all handled football with the big dip, We're way behind an nil. Like, tell me something UK Athletics is good at without saying the word volleyball.

00:04:55
Speaker 4: Mitch says, we're not behind it.

00:04:59
Speaker 5: Question eighteen times, I would say this garbage drew its garbage.

00:05:04
Speaker 7: I would say this to Mitch.

00:05:06
Speaker 8: If somebody asked me a question nineteen times, I wouldn't get mad at them.

00:05:09
Speaker 7: I'd say, you know what, maybe I'm not good at.

00:05:10
Speaker 4: A correctly, I totally agree with you.

00:05:13
Speaker 5: When you get asked the same thing nineteen times, maybe there's something.

00:05:16
Speaker 6: Uh, you get eighteen with Mitch you don't get nineteen.

00:05:19
Speaker 4: Nineteenth is too much.

00:05:20
Speaker 5: I would say, our women's basketball team is good, and our women's volleyball team is good.

00:05:24
Speaker 7: We're women's school.

00:05:24
Speaker 8: That's great, not downplaying any of that, but we need football and basketball to not being the rut they're in, and we need to figure out an aisle.

00:05:31
Speaker 5: Uh. Let's talk just a second about the playoff. Do we want Oregon to win a lot? And let me explain some timeline stuff. Organ's gonna beat James Madison uh in the first round the playoffs. Then they're gonna play Texas Tech. It's gonna be on New Year's If they beat Texas Tech, they're gonna go to the semi final. But the portal opens right after that game. Would you rather will Stein win? Get to keep coaching Oregon, which will also be a billboard for UK football, But he'll be preparing during portal season or would you rather him lose to Texas Tech and be able to focus on the portal specifically, Ryan.

00:06:19
Speaker 2: I'm gonna come becoming a big Oregon Ducks fan. I want them to win. I want them to score a lot of points, and I want them Every time they show him in the booth, they say, there's your new Kentucky head football coach right there. They just put forty two up on Texas Tech. I want him to thrive, So.

00:06:32
Speaker 4: You want him to win, all right, DRIs.

00:06:35
Speaker 8: I want them to lose seventy to sixty nine and we talk about how good his offense was when he gets.

00:06:40
Speaker 7: His butt to Lexington. Okay, I'm selfish.

00:06:44
Speaker 8: I want him to do well, and I'll be rooting for him, but I don't I don't have I don't get an Oregon hoodie if they win.

00:06:48
Speaker 7: I don't cheer for Oregon.

00:06:50
Speaker 8: I'd be happy for him, but I'm selfish and I need my cats having a good head start. So I hope he looks great with the offense. He's on TV a lot, and then he gets to come home right away.

00:06:58
Speaker 6: Shannon, Yeah, I mean we want what's best for Kentucky.

00:07:00
Speaker 3: We don't care about Oregon, so I would rather than lose and let him get to work right here with this job at Kentucky or Team No Ducks.

00:07:10
Speaker 4: Team No Duck. That's right, I'm quacking all time. I want him to go. I want him to win the title. I think it's good for us.

00:07:20
Speaker 5: There will probably be some small negativity about him not being here during portal season, but I mean the phone works, right, so I think that's fine. He'll have his full staff in place. Chances of liar a lot of them do the recruitment anyway. I think the best advertisement for coming and playing will for will Stein is will Stein having success and the more he wins. We can't at Kentucky football wins the last time we've played a game Ryan where there'll be as many people watching as there will be the semi finals.

00:07:51
Speaker 4: Of the playoff.

00:07:52
Speaker 5: Maybe never never, right, So like we'll never get that kind of advertisement, and players will sit there and say, look at that guy, I want to go play in that offense. Especially, I mean, they have a path where they could legitimately get to the championship game. So I'm gonna be an Oregon fan. I'm gonna We're gonna have Oregon watch parties at the bar. I'm if I don't know, anybody knows, may at the University of Oregon send us gear.

00:08:18
Speaker 4: I'm quacking, and Ryan you could quack with me.

00:08:20
Speaker 5: I don't know if Drew and Shannon will joined us, but I'm I'm for Oregon. I think it's the best thing that could happen to Kentucky football as them succeed.

00:08:28
Speaker 2: I agree. We definitely give a quack, and we want the quack to keep quacking all day and.

00:08:32
Speaker 5: Say, Shannon, you had a good pund and now he thinks he can do it.

00:08:36
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

00:08:37
Speaker 5: Yeah, you gave you an encouraged Dan, which is not what we want to do.

00:08:42
Speaker 4: All right.

00:08:43
Speaker 5: Two quick things about the playoff Indiana. All right, all right, Drew, I'm gonna just go ahead and admit they're good. I didn't want to do it. For two years, I've not wanted to do it, but that was a heck of a win against Ohio State undefeated. I think you can make a strong argument that what that guy has done in Indiana.

00:09:03
Speaker 4: Is maybe the greatest coaching job of all time.

00:09:06
Speaker 5: Isn't it to in two years change it from maybe the worst power five program in history to the number one seed in the playoff.

00:09:14
Speaker 4: That's gotta be the greatest coaching job of all time.

00:09:18
Speaker 8: I can't think of when I could put it ahead of it, like this year when you consider just be number one Ohio State. You went to Oregon when they were number two, number three, whatever they were, then all the other big ten rivalries you have, you handle business there. To run the table at Iu Deck I thought would be insanity. I didn't think that ever be possible, and he did it so quickly, So I agree with you. I don't know what job you could say is better.

00:09:40
Speaker 5: It's the best in two years, and it also completely changes the table on what is possible at any school. I mean, you can't expect Ryan will Stein to go do what Signetti did. I'm not expecting that Signetti had been a head coach for fifteen years with Stein has But now you can look at that and go, anything's possible, right, anything is if they can do it in Indiana, then why can't you do it anywhere?

00:10:09
Speaker 2: And to do it in Indiana where nobody ever thought that would ever have any success in football ever, I mean they have an overall losing record every coach has been the loser. Even Lee Corso was a loser there, and for him to come in and win. Well, they've lost two games in the last two years is just amazing.

00:10:23
Speaker 6: There were three and nine in twenty twenty three.

00:10:26
Speaker 4: That's amazing.

00:10:27
Speaker 6: Just two years.

00:10:27
Speaker 4: They've lost one game in two years. That's amazing.

00:10:32
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

00:10:34
Speaker 4: So you've got a like or two games.

00:10:37
Speaker 5: They've lost two games in two years if you count the ball, So you gotta give him a lot of credit.

00:10:42
Speaker 4: All right, So Notre Dame, who.

00:10:47
Speaker 6: That ever won?

00:10:47
Speaker 5: That's the windiest whining group I've ever seen. I've always disliked Notre Dame. But I'm done with Notre Dame. Okay, not going and playing in the bowl. That's taking your ball and going home. But the Notre Dame. If you don't want to make the playoff, Notre Dame, join a conference. Okay, join a conference. Your schedule is a joke. You played two good teams this year and you lost to them both. They should have been out. Miami beat them, had to head drew, they should have been out. Alabama. I don't you know, I do not think Alabama is great, but you can't punish them for playing in a conference and playing in the championship game. I'm fine with Notre Dame being out and the fact that they skip the bowl. That is the most chicken blank thing I've ever seen of a team to do.

00:11:28
Speaker 4: I hate it.

00:11:29
Speaker 5: And next year, go look at their schedule. Next year, they have the easiest schedule. You you're a Notre Dame. And they don't play one good team next year, not one. They're the worst And Drew, I'm glad they got left out.

00:11:46
Speaker 8: Did I hear Daring the selection thing yesterday? That next year if Notre Dame is just inside the top twelve.

00:11:53
Speaker 4: Yes, how ridiculous is that?

00:11:55
Speaker 5: And they're gonna be in the top twelve because they don't play anybody. Go look at they play Miami at home. And besides that, they don't play anyone that's even decent. They're like they I have never been anti Notre Dame, but I am now anti Notre Dame. And their coach Shannon he might be handsome, but who cares like he's the worst. I cannot believe they refuse to play in.

00:12:24
Speaker 3: That the refusing to play the NCULE should say, Okay, you don't want to play in the postseason next year.

00:12:28
Speaker 6: Your bann from the playoffs.

00:12:29
Speaker 4: Next year, I agree, I'd support it. Yep.

00:12:32
Speaker 5: True, they could have played BYU. Those were two teams that both almost got in the playoff.

00:12:36
Speaker 8: That would have been a good game, could have been a great game, and I don't I don't like that they did it.

00:12:40
Speaker 7: I wish they'd play.

00:12:41
Speaker 8: But this actually makes me worried that this is just gonna start a trend where any team, Oh I didn't make the top twelve, well, all right, I'll try gain next year.

00:12:48
Speaker 7: I'm not gonna go play into whatever.

00:12:50
Speaker 5: Teams in the conferences. The conferences make too much money from these bowl games, so the conferences are gonna make it prohibitive that they can't do this. They'll find them so much they can't do it. I State and Kansas State didn't do it, but they're in unique situations. They both both teams either don't have a coach or don't have a roster because of what happened. I think they should play too, but it's a little different. It would be like if Kentucky had made a bowl game, we wouldn't even really have a coach, so it would be very difficult. But Ryan Notre Dames is the weakest I think what and the reason they can get away with it is because they're not in the conference. The conferences wouldn't let their teams do this.

00:13:23
Speaker 2: So despite the Notre Dame snub, will you okay with the other twelve team James Madison?

00:13:27
Speaker 4: Fine with it? Yeah?

00:13:29
Speaker 5: I mean, look, James Madison's gonna lose Shennon. But what would you rather see Oregon play James Madison and beat them by forty or Oregon play Duke and beat them by forty.

00:13:40
Speaker 6: Oregon play Vanderbilt and beat them by four?

00:13:42
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm okay with having a James Madison like they're gonna get beat but it's a cool story.

00:13:51
Speaker 4: If you're gonna let those teams be in D one, Shannon, you gotta give them a chance to make it.

00:13:56
Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess so.

00:13:57
Speaker 3: But you know, yeah, you're right, they're just gonna get destroyed the first round. But I mean, here's the bigger thing. They're going to have to expand the football playoffs. You know they are now because of teams like Vandy and these teams that didn't get in well this year.

00:14:10
Speaker 5: The football playoffs being expanded would be good because Vandy's good Texas is good, Notre Dame's good, But Drew there have been years where if you expanded it, the teams you would have let him would have been bad.

00:14:21
Speaker 8: Yeah, this year's unique. The snubs, even Notre Dame, have an argument of why they shouldn't be in. You can't let everybody in, But this one seems wild. You know, there's the Alabama controversy. Everybody's arguing over this was of all the ways this could play out. The committee must have really hated this one because it was tough filling that last spot for them.

00:14:38
Speaker 5: But if I remember correctly, like was it last year, Like people didn't even think there were good enough teams to get in. So I listen, I want them to expand it, Ryan, because I want to make it one day. So make it as big as you can for Kentucky to make it.

00:14:53
Speaker 4: That's my view.

00:14:54
Speaker 2: So here's my question. How did Mississippi State edge out Kentucky and the academic performance to get that bowl game?

00:15:01
Speaker 4: It's a good question. Our academic performance must not be very good. I'd had to pretty high.

00:15:07
Speaker 5: I'd heard we were pretty high in that ranking, and then Appalachian State and Mississippi State had better academic performance than.

00:15:15
Speaker 2: Hound and Mississippi State.

00:15:18
Speaker 5: Yeah, well I never Mark Stoops was never big on the school part of it.

00:15:24
Speaker 6: He wasn't making them do their homework on the sideline.

00:15:26
Speaker 5: I mean, I know, I'm not I'm not saying he didn't care about school. I just don't think that was his His focus is pain, stiffness or a numbing sensation preventing you from enjoying watching your favorite teams compete. Listen now, Court physical therapy can help. Over thirty years, Court has been Kentucky's go to physical therapy group to help athletes, fans, and average jos. Go to Court dot com. That's KRT dot com. Get an appointment today, no reason to be in pain? Call Court all right, we will take your calls, we returned Kentucky Sports Radio. Hey, if I'm nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven, texta machine seventy seven to two seven four five two five for it. And I promised we would get the phones. I know people got things to say, so let's go ahead and do that. Who's up first, st Paduca Stu, Go ahead, Paduca Stu.

00:16:12
Speaker 9: Amen, thuds and prayers you and your family.

00:16:15
Speaker 10: Thank you, uh me and my wife went down to the game, and that.

00:16:19
Speaker 11: Game was very laughable.

00:16:21
Speaker 9: It was pretty pathetic.

00:16:23
Speaker 11: I don't know what they're doing on offense, but it is hard to.

00:16:26
Speaker 4: Watch well that off it's brutal.

00:16:31
Speaker 5: I mean again, what is the change you're gonna make that's gonna be better? Like I think low I mean people look, Low played what fourteen minutes?

00:16:42
Speaker 4: Sixteen minutes?

00:16:43
Speaker 5: Yeah, fourteen minutes, and by the time he got in it was what eleven?

00:16:46
Speaker 4: Nothing?

00:16:47
Speaker 5: So I mean there were people sending me things like, oh, low didn't end up his I mean, Low is not I'm not who knows if Lowe will be a solution, But I don't think yet, Drew, he's the problem?

00:16:58
Speaker 4: Would you No?

00:17:01
Speaker 8: I don't think you could pinpoint any one person's the problem when the entire team looks like the problem.

00:17:06
Speaker 4: Yeah.

00:17:07
Speaker 5: I think that's the best way to say it. Anything else, do? I, sir, appreciate the call, Drew give.

00:17:14
Speaker 4: Me something positive? Was it awesome? Before the game down.

00:17:17
Speaker 8: There there was a shooting at my hotel as I was checking in.

00:17:22
Speaker 4: That should have been that's not awesome.

00:17:24
Speaker 8: I I pulled up to the valet, give the valet my keys, I go inside, drop my suitcase. I'm not upstairs ten minutes and when I come back out, I just walk into the crimeson the valet had been shot like minutes. I missed the valet shooting maybe even by seconds. So that had that going for me. That was that was an interesting way to start, uh Friday. Straight from that into the game where there was Yeah, so it was it was a weird trip. I did have fun, lots of friends there. Uh really the postgame scene on Broadway was kind of weird, Like there were some fans that were angry. There were some that were almost just laughing it off, like this is so embarrassing, we can't even process it. I mean you have bands like singing sad songs to Kentucky fans and people giving out free beer because they feel bad for Kentucky fans. It was it was supposed to be a celebration, or maybe if you didn't believe in the team would win, to be a celebration.

00:18:18
Speaker 7: It just wasn't supposed to be that.

00:18:20
Speaker 8: It was like just a weird scene of people trying to process what had happened just before them.

00:18:26
Speaker 4: Shannon would have liked the free beer. I feel like you enjoyed that I would have jumped in on the up.

00:18:31
Speaker 6: Next, let's go to Randall.

00:18:32
Speaker 4: Randall, how are you, Randall? I'm doing good?

00:18:36
Speaker 9: Yes, I would boo because these guys are getting paid, you know, to currently pay play and you know, like with them getting paid, I mean, you know, you gotta sorry if I don't have a little sympathy for as much money as they're making, more than I'm gonna make it eight.

00:18:52
Speaker 4: Ten years probably.

00:18:54
Speaker 9: But you know, I think that that Mark Pope and the coaching staff looks more tense than two rams. And he had a tap dance recital at the moment, and I mean with the don't laugh, it ain't funny, hang.

00:19:09
Speaker 5: On, hang on more heat than two excuse me, more tense than two rams in heat and a what dance recital?

00:19:19
Speaker 9: Tape dance recital?

00:19:20
Speaker 4: Tap dance? I've heard that? Is that a phraser? Did you just come up with that?

00:19:26
Speaker 9: I just it's is country slang. I don't know, but I mean he needs to get these guys in the gym and work on those grandma arms. And I hope when he goes down there to Atlanta, Rick Bettino, the Godfather grabs old you know, Pope and shakeslem and says, I act like a man after that loss, you know, I mean, that's that's true.

00:19:47
Speaker 5: You want that Godfather moment where he smacks him and goes, yes, that's right.

00:19:53
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, and merry Christmas feelings.

00:19:55
Speaker 4: Merry Christmas. I like that. It's a good scene.

00:19:59
Speaker 5: What is it The singer from Vegas comes into town and he's crying about his career. Remember that scene and he smacks.

00:20:05
Speaker 4: Him and go, that's like a man. Has anybody seen The Godfather? Am I the only ones that's seen it? Definitely?

00:20:11
Speaker 8: Yeah, I've seen it, and that's the one that we've Ryan's not seen her? Am I dreaming that I have not seen it?

00:20:16
Speaker 4: That is? That is insane to me that you haven't seen The Godfather? How First of all, you're old?

00:20:24
Speaker 2: Did you're very old?

00:20:25
Speaker 4: How have you not seen it?

00:20:27
Speaker 2: Not seen it?

00:20:32
Speaker 4: Are you kidding me?

00:20:33
Speaker 6: No, I've never seen it.

00:20:35
Speaker 4: Neither of you have seen The Godfather?

00:20:37
Speaker 6: Ryan, Let you and not go watch it together?

00:20:39
Speaker 4: In all seriousness?

00:20:40
Speaker 5: How you it's it's widely considered the greatest movie of all time, and it's also, unlike a lot of old movies, you can still watch it. You know, they'll say like Citizen Kane's the greatest movie and then you start to watch it and you just fall asleep. This is still good. Will you two watch it please? As a favor to me.

00:21:00
Speaker 6: The only Godfather I've been to is a different Godfather.

00:21:02
Speaker 4: I understand you don't know that. I know you know about it. Yeah, I know that one share Ryan? Will you want you would like it? Ryan? Like it's your kind of movie. It's like a guy's movie.

00:21:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, younger girls trying to educate me and watch all these old movies.

00:21:14
Speaker 5: So maybe this is not old movie. This is I'm telling this is not Singing in the Rain. Okay, you will like it. I promise this is not.

00:21:22
Speaker 4: This is your kind of thing.

00:21:23
Speaker 6: Is it like four hours long? Or is it?

00:21:25
Speaker 4: Well, it's like three and more.

00:21:27
Speaker 5: Okay, god Father one's three and Godfather two is three, but they're both good.

00:21:31
Speaker 4: I promise you.

00:21:32
Speaker 6: I watched the highlights. There's no highlights in the YouTube version of it.

00:21:37
Speaker 5: Then drew back me up on this, like this is legitimately really good.

00:21:43
Speaker 4: Yeah.

00:21:43
Speaker 7: I mean I love mafia type stuff anyway.

00:21:46
Speaker 4: But do you like mafia movies? Do you like mafia movies? Ryan?

00:21:50
Speaker 2: I don't know if I've seen hardly any Mafia movie.

00:21:53
Speaker 4: Do you mean you haven't seen them? Have you seen Goodfellas?

00:21:57
Speaker 2: I think I saw that. That's when Danny d Vite, Not Danny Joe Pesci.

00:22:01
Speaker 4: Danny DeVito No Joe, yes, Joe Pesci?

00:22:03
Speaker 2: Is it?

00:22:04
Speaker 4: Have you seen that?

00:22:04
Speaker 2: I've seen that one? Yeah?

00:22:06
Speaker 4: What about Casino?

00:22:08
Speaker 7: No great one? Scarface?

00:22:11
Speaker 2: No, not Scarface?

00:22:13
Speaker 4: What do you watch? Well? Last night? Yoga?

00:22:16
Speaker 2: Maybe watch White Christmas with Bean Cross.

00:22:20
Speaker 6: That's a great I wish that would have been over for that.

00:22:23
Speaker 5: You should the three of you need to get together and watch White Christmas instead.

00:22:29
Speaker 4: Of The Godfather was beautiful you Louke? Go ahead, Luke? How do I get these two? Is my co host? Luke? Go ahead? Guys?

00:22:40
Speaker 12: I don't know what I'm more disappointed than the basketball team of the fact that Rotting and Chan haven't seen The damn Father.

00:22:45
Speaker 4: Are you crazy?

00:22:46
Speaker 12: I mean, my goodness, that's disgraceful. That's like a that's like that should be like almost the capital punishment.

00:22:52
Speaker 13: Anyway.

00:22:53
Speaker 12: Uh, back to what I really wanted to say, Uh the booing. I'll say this, the money has not changed my team on the I've always believed this. You can boot coaches, and you can boo the team collectively. We don't boo individual players though, like when we booed BJ Boston or our small portion of our fans did. That pissed me off. But I fully, and not only except I am race booing entire teams and coaches.

00:23:19
Speaker 5: I actually agree with that. I agree with that. I appreciate the call. I agree I would. I don't think you single out a guy. I'm gonna boot these two for not having seen The Godfather now, unbelievable.

00:23:32
Speaker 4: Be right back, Hey, TJ.

00:23:35
Speaker 7: Smith, personal injury attorney called TJ. He'll make them pay.

00:23:39
Speaker 3: Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage.

00:23:43
Speaker 6: Here's Matt Jones.

00:23:46
Speaker 5: So this is the famous scene, Shannon Roy, you've never seen this? No, nope, okay, So this is the wedding scene. He's see right here and he's like this side, how would you describe him? Shen't kind of a chubby guy and he's like he's dancing.

00:24:04
Speaker 6: Right yes, old man, oh man.

00:24:08
Speaker 4: This wedding. The wedding scene.

00:24:10
Speaker 5: I'm not just saying this part, but it's like thirty minutes they're having the wedding and then inside the Godfather's meeting with all these various people, Johnny Ola, and then Michael returns home from the war like it's the greatest scene in movies. And the fact that you haven't seen it. And Ryan, here's the thing. I know you would like it. It's not like one of these things. It's like nerdy that I'm telling you to watch and you wouldn't like.

00:24:34
Speaker 4: You will love it.

00:24:37
Speaker 2: How about if over Christmas break, I make that my homework.

00:24:40
Speaker 5: I'll watch it, but you actually, he says, Christmas break Drew like he does something besides the show.

00:24:51
Speaker 4: I mean, Christmas Break for you is just the same as.

00:24:54
Speaker 5: Now, you'll actually be working during Christmas break.

00:24:58
Speaker 2: No, we had a couple of days off for Christmas New Year's so I can take some of that time off.

00:25:02
Speaker 4: And what what do you dru he's got He's done in twenty five minutes.

00:25:09
Speaker 7: That's the afternoon nap. You can't nap and watch.

00:25:13
Speaker 6: When is he going out to eat by himself? By the way, like, when is this happening?

00:25:16
Speaker 4: I don't know.

00:25:17
Speaker 5: Things have kept coming up. We're gonna do it. I'm not getting so I just had the thing is I have to be able to monitor this Shandon, and I'm really not in a position where I can monitor it right away with it. I'm not this is not he's doing it, and I may make him sit there and watch The Godfather while.

00:25:33
Speaker 6: He's doing Yeah, it's a long lunch, three hours, all right, So.

00:25:37
Speaker 5: Jay, So they said Jayden Quaint's is gonna come back, drew A. Do you think that happens?

00:25:42
Speaker 4: They say?

00:25:43
Speaker 5: Matt Norlanders said he thought by the Saint John's game. Do you think that happens? And if so, does it matter?

00:25:49
Speaker 8: I still think it happens. I've not one time had any shade sharp thoughts about him. I expect him to play when he's able. I think he needs to show the NBA that he's recovered from his injury. So I'm part of it. I think he needs to do it for the future. And you know, I still thinks he's a good kid, wants to help the team. I don't know how big of a help he can be to this point if the guys are still just not making the extra pass and moping up and down the court, but maybe he can bring energy and the rest will look around and see him doing it. Because when he's playing at a high level, and giving it all. I mean, he is a game changer, especially defensively where he's one of those elite shot blockers.

00:26:24
Speaker 5: Those are the two things I think I Drew just hit it that I think he can bring Ryan. I think he can protect the rim and block shots so that we don't give up as many layups and that we can get better rebounding.

00:26:34
Speaker 4: And then energy.

00:26:35
Speaker 5: I don't see that guy not like I don't see that guy lolligag like he's not I'm not gonna be worried about his effort.

00:26:43
Speaker 4: So I think those two things are important.

00:26:45
Speaker 5: Now they don't sort of, they don't deal with some of our major issues about shooting and ball handling.

00:26:52
Speaker 4: But I do think he would bring those two things immediately.

00:26:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely would help, bringing that effort, energy, toughness. So if you get him back and you get about day back, and all of a sudden, you've got a couple of tough guys down there won't be buoying us around like Gonzaga did the whole game.

00:27:05
Speaker 4: But I still don't know if we have guys who can make shots.

00:27:08
Speaker 2: Nope, And I don't know how you think that.

00:27:10
Speaker 5: I don't know how you fix that either, I do not know how Mark Pope, a coach who literally built his entire brand, his entire coaching philosophy around shooting, how did he go recruit a team that can't shoot. I just I don't know how that happened, especially when the first team he brought in here everyone could shoot, like that was the point is everyone can shoot, And then the next year he was like, okay, how about no one shoots.

00:27:43
Speaker 6: They're great in practice at least that's what we hear.

00:27:46
Speaker 4: But that doesn't mean you think about that thing.

00:27:48
Speaker 5: He said it was one of the greatest shooting teams he's ever seen through a practice. How do we how do we process that having watched them?

00:27:57
Speaker 7: I really don't know. I mean part of it I worry.

00:28:00
Speaker 8: You know, everything we kind of joke, but everything is perfect and extraordinary and special. I hope he wasn't doing that about the three point shooting. But you know, anytime you try to get a little bit of criticize him, it's like, well, this is gonna be special, this is you know, And maybe the three point shooting was that way too.

00:28:14
Speaker 6: It was ugly, it wasn't beautiful, it was.

00:28:19
Speaker 5: Do you think he act? Do you think fit those guys do shoot well in practice and they just can't shoot in the game, or like he's not delusional, Like I I don't know.

00:28:33
Speaker 4: Here's the other thing.

00:28:34
Speaker 5: We don't really see these guys except the once or twice a year they open up. So part of it is we have to rely to some extent on what the coaches say. And Drew, I think in the future, like next year, whatever he says, I just am gonna probably be skeptical.

00:28:48
Speaker 4: Aren't you.

00:28:49
Speaker 8: Yeah, that Ferrari comment got a lot of people excited, and then that just keeps coming up about. I mean, we're getting all the memes of the actual cars he many has, you know, nineteen eight four Pentos, stuff like that, But I mean he generated that excitement in these expectations. There was national championship talk, Ferrari talk, and now it's like, can you just win a game against a team that has a pulse and then we'll figure out what kind of car you've got and everything else.

00:29:15
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, who's next? Mark Anthony, Mark Anthony, go.

00:29:18
Speaker 10: Ahead, morning, Matthew Roan, Drew Shannon, matt your dad is in my mind.

00:29:24
Speaker 4: Thank you.

00:29:26
Speaker 10: If you leave the gun, bring the canoli, and thank you.

00:29:30
Speaker 4: There you go another Godfather Live. Oh?

00:29:33
Speaker 10: I love it anyway. I think Coach Pope is drowning in his own analytics. I believe he's just putting way too much stock in it. He won't do a post game show that he doesn't quote you some analytics statistic or another that we don't understand. He's got to explain it. I think he's depending too much on it. I'm kind of like Drew coach. Analytics are great running in the background, but I don't want to see you refer to analytics at all in games. Get halftime, give them a minute after the game, go crazy with your analytics, but during the game, Grew, use your as coach, coach your team. And I think it'll make a big red Jaden quaintance if it comes back, and I assume he will at some point, but he's not in game shape. If he gives you ten minutes, it's going to be good. And he's not played with these dudes a minute, and so I don't agree to do so that's fair.

00:30:31
Speaker 4: We'll see.

00:30:31
Speaker 13: Can't be worse, coach, can't be worse.

00:30:35
Speaker 5: Appreciate the call, the anger on uh the text machine about you all not seeing Godfather is even more than I have.

00:30:45
Speaker 6: It sounds like a problem.

00:30:46
Speaker 4: There are also like.

00:30:47
Speaker 5: A million cultural references from it. Do you do you not ever get those?

00:30:52
Speaker 4: Like get you know, take the leave the gun, take the Kenoi.

00:30:56
Speaker 3: Like he just said, I never heard that before. I heard a top second ago with the other guy, but not before that.

00:31:02
Speaker 7: Okay, make an offer you can't refuse?

00:31:04
Speaker 4: Heard Yeah, what about that one? He made an offer he can't refuse.

00:31:07
Speaker 6: I mean that from the Godfather.

00:31:08
Speaker 3: Nobody ever said that before the Godfather.

00:31:12
Speaker 5: Actually the godfathers well, I mean every word has been said before at some point. I mean people use the number sixty seven at something point, but then it becomes a thing.

00:31:25
Speaker 4: I just here's the thing. Here's what you have understand. Movies.

00:31:30
Speaker 5: I don't like old movies past like pre like nineteen sixty eight. I think old movies like black and white outside of a couple like The Wizard of Oz.

00:31:40
Speaker 4: You said, white Christmas whatever, wonderful life.

00:31:43
Speaker 5: If you try to watch old movies, in my opinion, most of them don't hold up. It's like trying to watch My Three Sons or something. Father knows best. It's just too long ago.

00:31:52
Speaker 8: Now, you should have heard these two during the break. I don't think you could hear them. They were just reciting White Christmas, their favorite scenes. They're laughing, Yeah, are you this this bromance?

00:32:03
Speaker 5: Is that what you could do when you go to Florida is you just sit around and watch White Christmas.

00:32:08
Speaker 6: And like, well, if it's one.

00:32:11
Speaker 7: Sister. They were singing that together.

00:32:22
Speaker 4: You know, maybe they should be replaced by Billy Well.

00:32:25
Speaker 3: So we could break everything in the studio.

00:32:30
Speaker 4: Speaking of breaking lamps, do you shandon?

00:32:32
Speaker 5: A lot of people are saying we did start playing bad when Annabell.

00:32:35
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm telling you, you know when you made you made Bell.

00:32:41
Speaker 4: Why is it not Annabelle Radio? Why is it less and me than it is Annabelle showing up?

00:32:48
Speaker 3: Well, I think we could have just let her go, but then you had to like pile on and say this stupid doll. And when that happened, we had a girl that got hurt and the team started sucking. And it's it's your fault. Really, I mean, we blame you anyways.

00:33:02
Speaker 5: I think it's the fact that you all haven't seen The Godfather. If you had, I think it would be fine.

00:33:07
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, I'll go watch The Godfather and we'll see if they can beat Indiana Saturday.

00:33:10
Speaker 5: Okay, how about this? Okay, it's Godfather one and two. I actually think two is better than one, but two, forget about two.

00:33:17
Speaker 4: Pick one. You need to watch. It won't make as much sense. Ryan.

00:33:23
Speaker 5: Can you watch Godfather one before Saturday so we can beat Indiana?

00:33:26
Speaker 2: I will absolutely watch it before Saturday.

00:33:29
Speaker 5: All right, And if you all both watch it and then we lose to Indiana, I will concede that it's Annabel that causes Okay, all right, See, you both have to watch The Godfather in its cantirty before Saturday.

00:33:43
Speaker 4: Okay, got it?

00:33:45
Speaker 5: God Father one, Godfather one, two, you get to you'll want to watch two after you watch one.

00:33:51
Speaker 4: You're gonna you're both gonna like it. I'm telling it. I shut up. Who's next?

00:33:55
Speaker 6: Martin?

00:33:56
Speaker 4: Martin? Go ahead? Martin?

00:33:59
Speaker 11: Hey man, kim me.

00:34:00
Speaker 4: You're having right now? All right?

00:34:03
Speaker 11: Sending you prayers to your family. And then I kind of wanted to go back your comments on Notre Dame. I'm Roman Catholic. I've always hated Notre Dame, primarily because I have a lot of Catholic friends and they all root for Notre Dame just because they're supposedly Catholic. So couldn't agree with you more there?

00:34:22
Speaker 4: Yes, well I don't.

00:34:23
Speaker 5: I've never understood that either, Like, because you're Catholic, you have to be for Notre Day. There are a ton of Christian schools. I don't have to root for them, right, I mean, like that's ridiculous.

00:34:32
Speaker 11: Go ahead, I can never stand it. And the two things about the basketball team, I'll reiterate what most of the guys have already said regarding booing. I'm all for booing a team and a coach, especially now that they're getting paid the money that they do. You know, you have guys working nine to five out in the eastern coal mines who don't make near as much as that money. And we're not going to feel sorry for these guys just because they start feeling sorry for themselves on the sidelines. They can't get along. You're making money, you get to play for a D one school. Just try your butt off and die for loose balls. I mean, if I see, oh wait, look at another loose ball as it goes past, I'm gonna throw something at my TV and then the other thing, and I'll hang up Mark Cope. I feel like his overthinking how to motivate these guys, Like when you hear him say, turn a switch on, check their emotions and all these different things. I'm like, dude, they're eighteen year old young men. You know, I played rugby when I was eighteen. Sometimes you just need to run sprints and have a coach yell at you.

00:35:31
Speaker 13: That's the perfect age.

00:35:32
Speaker 11: For a young man to be molded into a warrior. And he's not doing that with these players. I see him on the sideline, clap in his hands, going, come on, guys, Come on, guys, yell at these guys. I mean, these guys are getting paid there.

00:35:43
Speaker 5: Sometimes just sometimes people just don't connect. I remember I appreciate Paul years ago, Drew. You may remember Patrick Patterson visited Duke. Can you remember his quote after his visit.

00:35:55
Speaker 4: Was not exact. I just wasn't feeling those.

00:35:58
Speaker 5: Guys right, And the point of it was was like he just kind of thought they were dorks. Sometimes people just don't connect. And part of me wonders, Ryan, did Mark Pope pick a group of guys he just doesn't connect with.

00:36:16
Speaker 2: I think you can make that argument. You know, most staffs do have you know a bad cop good cop? You know, Cal used to yell at him and then Kenny Paine used to pat him on the back and pick him back up. I don't know if if this staff has that guy that can get in their face and try to motivate them that way.

00:36:30
Speaker 5: Last year, those dudes were older, they were kind of dorky themselves, and maybe it worked. I don't know this group. It just doesn't seem like when Pope. They just don't seem to connect. Clayton and Croum was founded on a simple idea all leather goods should last a lifetime. They make everything from bags, belts, wallets, and more, and the best part, they're doing it right here in Kentucky. Check them out Clayton and Kroom dot com at cruimmy dot com or visit their flagship store in Louisville on Shelby Street Too Sick Teens, South Shelby Stream and Nulu quality leather goods, built to last, Perfect for Christmas. Clayton and Kroom dot com. I'm looking forward to you all actually watching this movie. Will you actually say it though? If you like it Ryan and don't.

00:37:14
Speaker 2: Act like you, Yeah, yeah, I will definitely, we'll.

00:37:17
Speaker 4: Be very backs Kizar.

00:37:20
Speaker 5: If you're a bourbon lover and a Godfather fan, grab a bottle of Club Club Blue Bourbon. Their white label and blue label label won gold medals at the ASCOT Awards, and their signature recipe Club Blue Bourbon is available at retail shops across the state.

00:37:34
Speaker 4: I'm dancing around my uh room right now.

00:37:37
Speaker 5: Online at bespokenspirits dot com, bespokenspirits dot com. The makers of Club Blue Bourbon. They also do private labels, barrel picks, and more at bespoken spirits dot com, bespokenspirits dot com. This is why I love you, Shannon. You and I we didn't even talk about this. You know, I was reading that ad. You thought it was gonna keep the music playing? Is what is the moment you started? I thought, I hope he keeps his playing. And I didn't even have to tell you just knew that's right.

00:38:06
Speaker 6: Well, that's what happens when you've been working together.

00:38:08
Speaker 4: For you, just the.

00:38:09
Speaker 5: Fact that you knew that, that's like, only you're the only person that would have known to keep doing that.

00:38:15
Speaker 3: I just keep around, all right, all right?

00:38:20
Speaker 5: So people are noting these pop culture references. Do you shoot me, Ryan?

00:38:26
Speaker 4: Have you ever heard?

00:38:27
Speaker 5: Uh, he sleeps with the fishes, right, Lucas with the fishes. Godfather? Okay, just when I thought I was out, they pulled me back in.

00:38:37
Speaker 4: You know that one.

00:38:38
Speaker 2: I've heard that also, Godfather, Godfather?

00:38:41
Speaker 5: You ever heard like a group of siblings, the one that's the stupidest, they'll call him Fredo No No, I think Trump calls one of the Cuomo Duke kids Fredo.

00:38:54
Speaker 2: No.

00:38:54
Speaker 13: I do.

00:38:54
Speaker 4: I think he does.

00:38:57
Speaker 3: Get your other references, and I understand your references too, without see in the movie sleeps with the Fishes.

00:39:01
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's dead, he's floating in the water.

00:39:03
Speaker 8: Think of any others, Drew, Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

00:39:09
Speaker 4: Godfather too.

00:39:10
Speaker 3: That Yeah, like everything that we know came from the Godfather, pretty much everything.

00:39:15
Speaker 4: Nothing didn't come from.

00:39:16
Speaker 6: The Brother's Keeper. That came from the Godfather.

00:39:19
Speaker 4: That was more the But that's the Godfather. Who's next?

00:39:30
Speaker 6: Adam?

00:39:31
Speaker 5: Adam?

00:39:31
Speaker 4: Go ahead at.

00:39:32
Speaker 10: Him, Matt.

00:39:35
Speaker 13: A man that can never spend time with his family. He can never be called a truth.

00:39:38
Speaker 5: That's exactly right, can never be a true man that's exactly right.

00:39:42
Speaker 4: Also, the Godfather.

00:39:45
Speaker 13: Yeah, going to uh, you know, just Mark, Pope of reference and Godfather. He might need to be hitting the mattresses already. We got to figure something out.

00:39:58
Speaker 4: Yeah, well let me I mean, do you do you all have confidence?

00:40:04
Speaker 5: Well, first of all, I'll ask you on the phone, do you have confidence Pope can turn it around?

00:40:10
Speaker 13: Yes, because we've seen them do it. But good grace, I mean that Gonzaga game, that's the worst. I mean, you gotta go back to Billy Clyde to see that. Just really.

00:40:23
Speaker 5: Addition, we were bad during the COVID year, but I don't know if we quit. Maybe we did, I can't remember. I appreciate the call, Drew. Do you think he can turn it around?

00:40:32
Speaker 8: No, not not this year. At least they just they seem to really not like each other. And even if he found the basketball answers like he did in some of those big wins last year where he made in game adjustments, even if he started putting the piece together from a basketball standpoint, I don't know how you get this group on the same page, especially if this just keeps spiling.

00:40:51
Speaker 7: I mean, if they lose.

00:40:51
Speaker 8: To Indiana on Saturday, god it, we'll get nasty around here.

00:40:56
Speaker 5: Ryan, you I mean, you've worked with people you didn't like over the years. You just have to get over it, don't you.

00:41:02
Speaker 2: Usually you find, you know the common goal. You rally around the common goal, and that's to play good basketball and win games. This team just seems to be like broken, and I don't know if it can be. They't have some games they play really well and they may have a big win, but they just seem to be broken. And when you have a gutless performance like we had on Friday, that's hard to recover from.

00:41:22
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I've worked with people I didn't like, Shannon, but you know when it I mean, they said Mike and Mike hated.

00:41:31
Speaker 2: Each other, right, but they made it work.

00:41:33
Speaker 5: But every morning they came on and they made it work. They got I mean, gotta do better than this. I don't care. I don't care what happened between them. I really don't. Whatever it is, it can't be like this.

00:41:49
Speaker 2: So what do you do? If you're Mark Pope? What do you do right now?

00:41:55
Speaker 5: I think I think the best advice I've heard is go back to the basics, Like just take a step back and whatever is your most basic basketball knowledge, go back to that. And then I also agree with the person that said, forget your notions of who should play, go out there and play the five guys given the most effort, whoever that is.

00:42:15
Speaker 2: And he seemed to do that in the second half, and he left those five guys out there.

00:42:19
Speaker 5: And I think I would learn from it. Even though the second half didn't go great, it went better than the first half. Right, Yeah, just play the guys who were giving you effort and then go from there. Stop trying to play everybody. They don't like it, then that's the way it goes. Thank you, folks very much for tuning in. We will be back tomorrow. Tough day, but big week ahead. We'll see you later. It's been Kentucky Sports Radio.