Club 520 x Hennessy - Jeff Teague & Baron Davis on BEATING Dirk’s Mavericks, Kobe Bryant playing in Drew League

The volume. Yo, yo, yo, what's going on? It's going on, 0:00:08.720 --> 0:00:11.160 make some noise. He see arena Club five twenty. What's 0:00:11.160 --> 0:00:14.560 going on out here? First time in the YA area. 0:00:14.600 --> 0:00:17.200 Appreciate the love San Francisco being holding down out here. 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:19.360 You know what it is? Club five to twenty podcast 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:22.040 Live in Hennessy Arena. I'm the host. My name is 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:24.360 DJ Wells. We got a special guest. We got a legend. 0:00:24.400 --> 0:00:26.520 To my far left, we gonna introduce my man's lest 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:29.080 but to my far left, got my dog Bishop be 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:30.319 hearing out the Pearly shift. 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:31.320 How you would man. 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:33.080 Cool and nation less pop baby. 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:35.400 You know, normally my man's got on the Black forces 0:00:35.400 --> 0:00:36.640 with the white laces. You know what I'm saying. He 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:38.159 switched it up because you know, on the road. But 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:39.519 you know what I'm saying, you gotta bring the staples out. 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:41.120 Let the people know how you were from the city. Man. 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:42.920 Nah, we're gonna get beat the appraial what you was 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:45.360 about thirteen fourteen. 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:48.360 You are with the Black forces, be there and the 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:51.240 contract want to respect? Okay, Yeah, we gonna were gonna 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:51.599 get you some. 0:00:51.520 --> 0:00:53.440 Black force forces with the white laces. I'm gonna get 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:53.840 you together. 0:00:54.200 --> 0:00:56.880 Yeah, you gotta, you gotta per form. You live, you live, 0:00:56.960 --> 0:00:59.320 my dog. To my right, young Nacho, Young Tea, You what. 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:02.000 Man, I'm good man, chilling bro. Happy to be here 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:04.680 with a legend, one of my favorite players growing up. 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:07.280 You know I have four favorite players. It was Jay Will, 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:10.959 Alan Iverson, Beatty, and Gilbert Arena. So this is it 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:13.559 means a lot to me. Right here for sure for show. 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:15.040 But to my left, we got a legend. You know 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:17.040 what I'm saying, the man who went crazy, one of 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:19.199 the reason why this wonderful fan base for this team 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:22.080 is even available to cheer for this team or Hooper 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:24.720 creative Andy Y also making music. We got the doll 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:26.960 Baron Davis, a legend from California. And to Bill and 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:29.039 appreciate you pull it out the five twenty Big Dog 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:30.280 Show for show. 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:33.560 This ship, this shit is on by twenty years up. Yeah, 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:35.480 I got Yeah, I got the I got the pie. Yeah, 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:36.720 I got the convos cracking. 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:39.880 Appreciate, appreciate the show man, appreciate you already started to 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:40.959 showing an interesting question. 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:42.560 You know what I'm saying. We know what you did 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:44.120 that and that Warriors Jersey. 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:46.000 But before you got there, you had one of the 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:48.800 best jerseys of all time. The people know in the hood, 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:52.800 it's like that Mike Vic jersey, that number one Charlotte jersey. Yeah, 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:55.320 we want to talk about that time before you came 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:57.440 here and did your thing here, because that's a very 0:01:57.480 --> 0:01:59.680 important time in basketball and people don't know about don't 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:02.280 speaking enough about you coming out in the draft going 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:03.120 crazy like that. 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:06.800 Yeah, it was, Uh, it was wild, you know because 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:11.080 I'm from LA born and raised and I never had 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:15.160 my own room, right, so growing up I slept in 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:16.240 the living room. 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:18.160 Then I'm like, all right, I get to. 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:21.400 College and may UCLA man Earl Watson my roommate, so 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:24.480 we got to share a room. And when I got 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:27.080 to Charlotte, that was my first time like having something 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:30.120 by myself. And so I always say Charlotte was a 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:33.760 Bible Belt. It was like the perfect place for me 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:36.840 to go coming from LA going into the league at 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:37.960 that time, you. 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:38.440 Know what I mean. 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:41.799 And it was like, damn, dude, it ain't really nothing 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:45.040 to do here, but who go to the gym, go 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:47.640 to the mall, go to the movies. So I go 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:51.080 to the movies like three four times a day because 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:51.840 I want shit to do. 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:52.840 You know what I mean. 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:55.880 Change now. It's crazy now, Charlotte. 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:59.560 I wish it was like it was now back then, 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:02.520 you know, because it's cracking down. But you know, just 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:04.880 being on that team, you know, you got Anthony Mason, 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:07.799 Derek Coleman, Elden Campbell, it was like a big man league. 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:08.880 Come out. 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:10.640 You got to throw the ball in, you know, got 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:12.680 to throw the ball in the post to start the game. 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:16.480 Everything happened in the post, slow down basketball. And I 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:18.400 came off the bench my rookie year, I was. 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:21.359 A third pick. I was a third pick. I came 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:22.120 off the bench. 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:27.440 That's because Silos was a coach and he was like 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:30.160 I mean, back then, it was a thing where no 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:33.200 matter where you were as a rookie, like coaches didn't 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:36.400 play rookies, and like that was we were just getting 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:40.080 into like high pick franchise players starting. You only had 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:42.280 a few, you know what I mean. Kobe came off 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:44.600 the bench, you know what I'm saying. So it was 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:47.560 just a time of like the older era. It was 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:49.720 like a transition era. But for me, it was like 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:53.440 an opportunity to like start being a man, you know 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:56.200 what I mean. But also it was humbling because I 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:59.040 was playing like Don was playing nineteen minutes a game. 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:04.240 No more than that shit. I wish nineteen minutes a game, Dog, 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:07.360 And I'm just sitting there like hot. You're watching Iverson 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:10.520 go off. You watch Jason Terry go off, Andre Miller. 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:13.280 I didn't make the rookie game. It was actually here, 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:16.880 the rookie sophomore game. Rookie sophomore game was here, and 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:19.440 I missed that shit. And I just remember sitting that home, 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:22.159 like dog. I will never miss another one of these, 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:25.720 you know what I mean, all Star weekends. And then 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:28.919 it helped me work on my game though, you know, 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:30.880 because back then you have to like pass the ball on. 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:35.600 The post spot up and shoot. That was it, bro. 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:37.920 If you play passaball on the post cut through. 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:42.479 You know, I played with Joe Johnson. You know I 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:46.000 read straight to the corner, and that's just bad. It's 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:47.560 interesting to say that I was gonna say this play, 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:49.840 but like you said, that time period, obviously you and 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:52.800 Kobe both had to sit behind Eddie Jones and start 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:55.680 off your stuff. How is it now seeing guards come 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:57.760 into the league now and getting keys the franchises, and 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:00.320 now you got a league where guards are encouraged score 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:03.279 like to see your game, especially like your game, Like 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:06.160 how y'all would have fit now coming into the league, 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:07.640 having the keys do whatever you want to. 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:10.440 Man, shit. 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:16.279 Be crazy, right, it'll be crazy. It'll be crazy, you 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:19.359 know it would for me. I think I would have 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:22.919 had a different mentality coming into the league because coming 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:24.720 in at that time, it was like you got to 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:28.800 be the best traditional point guard you could, so no 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:31.440 matter what I could do, dunk all that other shit, 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:34.640 you know, pass like they just wanted you to like 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:39.760 play basketball fundamentally sound, don't turn the ball over, bring 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:41.880 the ball up, passing the wing, you know what I mean. 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:44.880 So you look at these dudes getting drafted and be like, 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:48.640 here go to the ball. Everybody else gonna follow you. 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:50.880 You can shoot as much as you want, you can 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:57.120 make turnovers, like there's no like high esteem for fundamentals 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:00.680 or highest steam for like turnovers and things like that, 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:03.120 you know what I mean. So the freedom allow a 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:06.200 lot of these kids now to just playing their talent, 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:09.200 and so I didn't even know what my full talent 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:11.760 range was to like my third fourth to my third 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:14.039 fourth year, when you like, fuck it, I'm going for 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:15.960 All Star. I'm showing what I can do, you know 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:18.400 what I mean, instead of coming in and being like, hey, 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:20.400 show that's what you can do, like we're gonna rock 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:22.839 with you. You know it was it'd be way different. 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:25.360 Did they like you rock that third year or did 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:28.160 you have to really earn it like the third year 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:29.080 I did. 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:33.279 I did real good my third year, like I believe, 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:35.560 like may As Burn was hurt, I make the All 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:40.799 Star Game, but it was Vince Carter and he got injured. 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:43.599 But Vince Carter was such a real one. He hadn't 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:46.520 played like the whole season he was watching. He was like, man, 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:49.159 no way, I'm playing in the All Star Game, you 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:52.320 know what I mean? And it was like he was hurt. 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:54.080 So then that's how I got the call. That was 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:55.159 my first All Star Game. 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:57.840 Shouts to Vince. That's Reale, Yah, Vince, my dog. 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:01.120 I always tell them if I got hinted the ball 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:03.520 when I was a rookie, this podcast would have been 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:06.400 based out of Miami, it would have been based out 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:06.880 of India. 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:08.479 I would have been on food. I would have been 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:09.880 living on the beat. 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:11.360 Yeah. 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:16.680 Crazy, But I always tell him that, because man, I 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:18.920 had to come in a row. I played after Mike Bibbie, 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:20.640 so I had to learn how he played. He was 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:24.320 more of a traditional point guard. He scored, but more traditional. 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:28.040 And I came out of college shooting fifteen sixteen shots 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:28.360 a game. 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:31.120 So coming killer college, you know, I appreciate that. 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:33.240 But coming and passing the ball, going to the corner, 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:35.240 I ain't know what to do. But like you said, 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:37.840 if you had a different opportunity, it'll be a whole 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:38.440 different story. 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:39.280 I think, yeah. 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:41.560 And you know I played with BIV too. You know, 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:48.680 it is a funny deal. One of the best teammates 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:51.680 I've ever had. Due I never seen some dude like 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:54.240 I was bigger than Mike. I was, damn there, bigger 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:56.920 than Mike Baby my whole career. Like he was, he 0:07:57.080 --> 0:07:59.040 was big, you know, he had he had, he had 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:02.480 size on eiven it. And then you look at Mike Bibby. 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:04.920 Now he grab you. He can grab you like this 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:10.239 and pick you up like w W bro credible Hulk muscles. 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:13.240 Mike sho wear Black Forces every day. He called. He 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:14.120 called me the other day. 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:23.880 I told him, Bro, you might as well go pro wrestling, bro. 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:22.280 Man. 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:31.800 But obviously, man, you did your thing with the hornets. 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:33.439 And then you got the opportunity. You know what I'm saying, 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:35.320 come play in the bay. How was it your first 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:38.760 transition coming from a new team, new situation, and obviously 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:40.920 came into a new situation, new coach, but then Don 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:43.520 Nelson came. How was that transition? Like you said, getting 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:45.920 able to actually do your thing. You was already established 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:47.560 with your game. Now you got to just really show 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:48.720 everybody how good you was. 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:50.760 Yeah, man, it was crazy because I was. It was 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:51.560 in New Orleans. 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:54.720 So the team moved from Charlotte to New Orleans and 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:57.120 then you know, New Orleans was like, oh we got 0:08:57.160 --> 0:09:00.280 a basketball team, like win the games, you know what 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:03.040 I mean. We have to like pass out flyers and 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:05.760 ship you know, going to the game, like pass out tickets, 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:08.680 tickets out the windows, so people you know, doing many 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:11.120 gros catch them and come to the game. So coming 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:13.160 from New Orleans, I was already. 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:16.040 Like tickets with the beas is crazy, you know that. 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:22.560 Basically, Thank god? It was crazy. You have to fight 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:25.120 for so much attention in the city. Then you go 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:28.040 to the Saints game and it's like the whole New 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:30.640 Orleans come to the game. But like for us, it 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:33.240 was wild because people wouldn't really like it was in 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:36.960 the basketball, but basketball wasn't like like a thing, and 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:40.680 uh and then I had a lot of controversy leaving 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:41.720 New Orleans. 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:43.599 A lot of controversial disagreement. 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:47.280 Yeah, a lot of disagreements. Hey, bro, I had a 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:48.720 lot of shit going on when I. 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:49.679 Was leaving New Orleans. 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:53.400 So so when I got here, I was like, man, 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:56.720 I get a chance to turn my life around, you 0:09:56.720 --> 0:10:00.280 know what I mean? And uh, malaya homies alone, you 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:03.760 know what I mean. I'm gonna leave all extracurriculars along. 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:06.800 And I got another chance to come and hoop. I 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:08.960 walk in the first day to go to stay Worried 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:12.120 of practice, I'm like, damn, dude, who died in this 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:15.080 in this monthfucking you know what I mean? Like nobody 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:18.439 was talking to each other, dude. Soon as practice was over, 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:20.760 everybody took one or two shots and got up out 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:23.520 of there. And I was like, damn, like, you know, 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:26.120 this like a walking corpse, you know what I mean. 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:27.800 And so all I wanted to do when I came 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:31.840 here was like, Giddy's do some some energy. 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:32.160 You know what I mean. 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:34.680 Let him know, like, like, damn dog, we got we 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:37.240 got a chance to hoop no matter what you got 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:40.680 going on with the coach management, like let's just go hoop, 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:42.960 and like that's our therapy, you know what I mean. 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:45.920 And so it start it started turning around, you know 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:48.880 what I mean. When I got here, uh, and then 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:49.439 it was lit. 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:49.760 You know. 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:51.960 We had won like seven games to finish the season, 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:55.760 seven games in a row. And then I think people 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:58.040 in the city just was like, fuck it, we start 0:10:58.120 --> 0:10:59.920 believing it, you know what I mean, They start believing 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:02.480 that we could be something, because they always did, like 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:05.120 every year Warrior fans they were like, fuck it, we're 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:07.400 gonna be good. Until they wasn't, you know what I mean, 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:10.000 But they still showed up to the games, you know 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:13.319 what I'm saying. So, like the whole the whole journey 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:16.920 was like, man, it was packed. From the time I 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:19.719 checked in my first game off the bench, it was 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:20.880 it was packed already. 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:22.080 It was already cracking. 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:24.560 And so I was like, damn we got I'm coming 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:27.480 from New Orleans, you know, we struggling to get ten 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:31.360 thousand people, eight thousand people the year before in Charlotte 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:34.800 bro We're in the playoffs playing New Jersey second round. 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:36.480 There was five thousand people. 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:37.960 It's crazy. 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:40.640 The arena sid twenty two thousand people. 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:47.720 Here, Bro, it was wild, y'all was playing kidd. 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:53.840 Brobably had five thousand people that I played game game. 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:56.360 Crazy. 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:59.199 Had no home court advantage at all like that. Last 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:03.400 year was like once one christ one game around Christmas 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:06.400 is snow. It was like a thousand people if that 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:08.079 in the arena, that's crazy. 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:09.760 You can hear ship. 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:11.719 Like you can hear people having conversations, you know what 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:15.120 I mean, Like it was cold. 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:17.040 I tell you a story we had on our podcast before, 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:20.360 so he said, that's about the NBA game One time. 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:23.800 He said he was eating chicken chicken fingers and he 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:27.160 ran out of something. He told his cousin across the court, like, hey. 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:27.760 Grab some more. 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:35.280 Don't laughing shout out to This is about you can't 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:37.600 do it. A few games, parking them tickets don't win 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:38.319 up three times. 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:40.920 So, but when did this start turning around in Golden 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:45.080 State for you? It didn't. I mean it was like 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:47.640 the lot. Wait no, it didn't. 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:50.600 Like to be honest around now, I'm telling you, Bro, 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:54.679 everybody here knows the story. The next year we end 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:58.360 the season, I'm back to back Player of the Week 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:01.040 so I'm like, oh ship, I'm feeling good, Like I'm 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:03.400 back in my groove, and they fucking with me, you 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:05.760 know what I mean, I can do whatever I want. 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:07.040 Jay Rich Kracking. 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:10.120 We figure it out, get to the end of the season, 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:13.199 everybody leave on a good note. Come back in the 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:18.160 training camp. We got a whole year with Mike Montgomery. Man, 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:20.000 that ain't gonna work. 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:21.520 You know what I mean. That wasn't gonna work. 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:25.600 So we went back to you know, he thought that, 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:29.920 you know, college coaches. He thought that, like he needed 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:32.680 to have control and like teach and teach, and we're like, man, 0:13:33.040 --> 0:13:34.240 you ain't teaching us nothing. 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:36.960 We already know how to play basketball. Let us play basketball. 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:39.640 So the next year came back and then we kind 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:44.120 of was like hovering and struggling under Mike Montgomery, you 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:46.200 know what I mean. And so it was like we 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:48.559 made a bad draft pick, you know, like we kept 0:13:48.600 --> 0:13:49.720 making bad draft picks. 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:50.640 You know I say that. 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:53.360 So we wasn't getting better in the draft, you know 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:54.520 what I'm saying, Like we. 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:58.760 Wasn't getting better in the draft. You know, man, they're 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:01.880 not real, you know what I mean. Dunleavy was beefing 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:04.600 with the fans. You know what I'm saying, It's crazy. 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:08.480 It was the wildest shit ever, dude, because Mike Dunley 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:11.280 is a great teammate. He a great dude. He want 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:14.679 to win. And it was just like it was almost 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:18.160 like the other team bought tickets for plants and they 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:20.560 thought that they were Warrior fans, but they'd just be like, 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:23.880 fuck you, don't leave, fuck you too, Like no, don't 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:27.720 leave alone alone, man like dany focus on the games. 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:31.160 Be a Minnesota That's how I was in Minnesota area. 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:34.480 Yeah, I mean, I say, you know, it's tough. I 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:37.440 went through that. I went through that in New Orleans. 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:38.400 That's how I got traded. 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:41.240 I was sitting on the bench and hurt, and I'm 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:44.880 watching Dan dickout kill and I'm watching the crowd go crazy. 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:49.480 Like I'm like, dd, we two and twenty? What the fuck? 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:53.600 Like you got to man like we two and twenty? 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:55.680 I don't care, you know what I mean? But they 0:14:55.760 --> 0:14:57.800 was boring me. I wasn't even playing in New Orleans. 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:00.400 They got it got to that point. But like we 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:02.560 had a lot of like it was just ups and downs, 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:05.640 ups and downs, and we couldn't like we couldn't turn 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:09.880 the corner. They fire Mike Montgomery. Then they bring in 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:13.840 Don Nelson. Yes, Sir don Nelson come, Remember Dwan Wagner, 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:16.840 Dwan Wagner Monte. 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:19.320 We got a guy from our city named Andre Owens. 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:20.360 He came and tried. 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:24.480 Tried out, so we like we had a little little 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:27.840 warrior makeup, you know what I mean. Don Levy was cool. 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:33.320 Troy Murphy was kind of like, you know, you see 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:38.800 everybody laughing. He was, you know, like you know when 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:42.600 a player is like he done. He was done here 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:45.800 he needed like he was a good player, he was 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:46.680 a double double. 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:50.200 But it was just like he he was he was drained. Bro. 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:52.400 It was like he had you know, you gotta think 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:56.440 Jay Rich, Don Levy, Troy Murphy, Donald Foyle. They had 0:15:56.520 --> 0:16:00.240 seven coaches. They had like seven coaches before I got there, 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:03.920 So like you can imagine, like damn, we got another coach. 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:06.360 I don't care who the coach is. Like, man, we 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:08.440 got another coach. What are we doing now? So it 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:11.200 was like we won't going. We was hovering and we 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:14.200 was cool, but we didn't have like we didn't had 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:17.160 a juice. And I remember Chris Mullen came to me. 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:20.000 It was like, man, we're gonna try to make this right. 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:25.240 We're gonna try to get this right, and was nothing happening, 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:26.920 you know what I mean. And so towards the end 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:29.640 of the trade deadline, it was almost like they came in. 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:32.480 It was like Stephen Jackson, Al Herring. I was like, oh, 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:34.480 hell yeah, we cracking now, you know what I mean? 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:43.800 Yeah, Murphy said, Troy and dun Levy, uh like Diago, Yeah, we're. 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:45.520 Still thinking that track. We should have tried to keep 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:48.200 done Levy. We would have been all right, Like he 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:50.640 was like a missing piece for us in the like 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:52.600 in that we believe it when you think about what 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:53.120 we needed. 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:55.680 But we make the trade right. 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:59.400 Everybody like, ah shit, yeah the homies here, Hey do 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:01.000 We was getting my ass booked. 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:04.120 Everybody know, we was getting our ass well. We still 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:04.720 was like. 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:07.200 Couldn't get over the hump, you know what I mean. 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:10.800 We couldn't get over the hump. And then Nelly was like, 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:13.600 all right, well, ship, I see what I got, you 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:15.560 know what I mean? Like fucking We'll just wait to 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:20.280 next year. And it was like not even halfway during this. 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:25.960 I coached high school. I did this year. 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:31.280 We let him get to the city and get comfortable. 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:35.320 Ro Sol No. 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:41.840 Na bron comfortable. Let's take No, it wasn't some new houses, 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:42.600 you know what I mean. 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:44.520 Hit the ruck. 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:46.520 We had went on the road, you know what I mean. 0:17:46.600 --> 0:17:48.119 So we had went on the road. So we was 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:51.640 on the road just like struggling. And then I got 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:57.560 hurt right before all start weekend and ship. We was 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:00.440 just hummering, hummering. And then after all start, I remember 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:02.600 we had a team meeting. We had lost to Washington. 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:05.320 Gil had hit two free throws and we had a 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:08.840 team meeting, and I was like, man, if y'all motherfuckers 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:11.359 want to party. I throw a party at my birthday 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:13.440 end of the season. But we got to start partying 0:18:13.480 --> 0:18:15.879 on the court, you know what I mean. So like 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:18.960 if we make the court our party in our club, 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:21.600 and shit, I go out every night, We'll go out. 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:22.440 But we had never. 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:28.240 Really like before that Dune, Levy, Jay Rich, Troy Murphy 0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:31.000 and Donald Foyle like that crew. They never hung out 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:39.240 with Stack and Matt Stack and Matt, Stephen Jackson, Doyln 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:41.920 Harrington and we already had Matt. So like when they came, 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:45.040 it was like now everybody had people to hang out 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:47.000 with and then the young dudes wanted to hang out, 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:48.920 you know what I mean, because it was like, now 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:51.040 you got real NBA stories, you know what I mean, 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:54.520 Stack telling stories down Harrington telling stories, you know what 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:56.920 I mean. And so that kind of like built that 0:18:57.000 --> 0:19:01.520 little camaraderie. Then after that Washington game, I came back, 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:04.800 we played Detroit and everybody thought it was gonna get 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:07.720 our ass whoop and we beat the ship out of him, 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:10.600 and it wasn't. It wasn't like a game where it's like, oh, 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:12.480 we beat them, you know what I mean. 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:13.520 It's like, yeah, we gotta go. 0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:16.480 And it was like, nah, they can't fuck with us, 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:18.200 Like we can fuck with them, you know what I mean, 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:21.399 Like we can match up good against Detroit was like 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:23.080 one of the best teams in the league. And after 0:19:23.119 --> 0:19:25.560 that we was like, ship, if we can beat Detroit, 0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:28.280 we can beat anybody's turn around. 0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:30.560 That was it. That was it. 0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:33.200 But it was it happened because we was like, all right, 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:35.959 fuck it if we you know, everybody giving up on us, 0:19:36.600 --> 0:19:38.840 If we're gonna party, We're gonna party on the court. 0:19:38.960 --> 0:19:41.680 And then after the game, if we win, we going out. 0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:48.280 We went out every night every night I was like, God, 0:19:48.320 --> 0:19:56.359 I believe that's what we start doing with. It was 0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:58.879 the wildest ship because we was We was like a 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:01.840 rap group. He was like the Wu Tang going to 0:20:01.960 --> 0:20:03.520 like we played and then we go to the club. 0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:05.960 Motherfuckers like damn this Wu Tang. 0:20:05.800 --> 0:20:08.119 Death ro bad Boy whatever. It was like. 0:20:08.160 --> 0:20:11.639 We was cracking y'all. Every city, it didn't matter what 0:20:11.800 --> 0:20:15.359 city it was, was going to the club, was taking 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:20.480 over the club up drinking, got the hand going yes, sir, 0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:23.639 and then if I drink, I'm going to go grab 0:20:23.680 --> 0:20:27.200 the mic so I would take you. That's where the 0:20:27.280 --> 0:20:30.960 rapperd career started. Take DJ you know what I mean? 0:20:31.760 --> 0:20:36.080 And who knows you know what I mean? Everybody was. 0:20:36.920 --> 0:20:39.680 Everybody was in firing range when I got the mic. 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:42.480 Yeah, but in serious no, I think for real, that's 0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:44.880 what helps teams come together when y'all hang out off 0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:48.480 the court. Chemistry, Yeah, that chemistry mission like, well, when 0:20:48.520 --> 0:20:49.720 y'all get on the court for sure. 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:52.200 So I'll probably say y'all team was like that. Y'all 0:20:52.240 --> 0:20:54.120 look like you know that Joe Johnson. 0:20:54.520 --> 0:20:55.520 We went out every day. 0:20:55.680 --> 0:21:00.359 Turn my boy out. 0:21:02.600 --> 0:21:03.240 I'm gonna keep it. 0:21:04.040 --> 0:21:07.560 I'm gonna keep it right time, I'm gonna keep it 0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:10.760 cool at home something pocket. 0:21:10.800 --> 0:21:20.080 But that's what you know, Hey, put you on the game. 0:21:21.480 --> 0:21:22.720 Now, we went out of every city. 0:21:22.800 --> 0:21:25.200 I mean, it wasn't a gentleman's club that I didn't 0:21:25.200 --> 0:21:30.720 know about that way for sure. So obviously, man, y'all 0:21:30.720 --> 0:21:32.240 get it together going the season and then you get 0:21:32.200 --> 0:21:34.720 into the playoffs and that's what the magic happens. Like 0:21:35.080 --> 0:21:36.840 it's very rare that you see. Obviously that was a 0:21:36.960 --> 0:21:38.399 historic situation. You know what I'm saying, y'all be in 0:21:38.440 --> 0:21:41.200 the ABC beating the one seed, but like y'all wasn't say 0:21:41.200 --> 0:21:43.320 that match up very confident, and you can tell it 0:21:43.400 --> 0:21:45.400 wasn't like, oh, we're about to get them. It's like, nah, 0:21:45.440 --> 0:21:47.720 we got this handled. And y'all was playing against Dirt. 0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:50.520 Yeah, we had beat them like six six games in 0:21:50.520 --> 0:21:55.120 a row, and we had beat them with Troy Murphy, 0:21:55.440 --> 0:21:59.959 Mike Murphy, Donald Foyle, Jay Rich, and so we had 0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:03.280 beat him with that squad I had at the time. 0:22:03.320 --> 0:22:06.639 I don't even think I had played against Dallas. Shit, damn, 0:22:06.800 --> 0:22:09.600 because I missed I was I missed a couple of games. 0:22:09.680 --> 0:22:11.560 Jay Rich hit a buzzer beat or something like that 0:22:11.600 --> 0:22:14.200 in Dallas. But for some strange reason, when you look 0:22:14.240 --> 0:22:17.560 at Golden State versus Dallas, we had their number. 0:22:18.640 --> 0:22:20.560 So when we came into the playoffs, like. 0:22:22.440 --> 0:22:25.000 I never forget the first day of practice, I had 0:22:25.040 --> 0:22:28.159 never seen Nelly move so fast, talk so fast. Like 0:22:28.560 --> 0:22:30.680 it was like hold on, like this a whole new dude. 0:22:30.720 --> 0:22:32.040 He was like, yoh, I know how to beat him. 0:22:32.680 --> 0:22:35.800 Shut the fuck up, do what I tell you. And 0:22:35.880 --> 0:22:38.679 if you do it every time, I don't care what happened. 0:22:38.680 --> 0:22:41.760 If you do it every time, we're gonna win. And 0:22:41.760 --> 0:22:46.320 he knew, you know, he grew Dirk room, Josh Howard, 0:22:46.560 --> 0:22:49.040 you know what I mean. He put that team together 0:22:49.040 --> 0:22:50.960 that was really like his team, and he gave it 0:22:51.040 --> 0:22:56.000 Tabuy Johnson. So we knew that Dirk was gonna dribble 0:22:56.080 --> 0:22:58.160 right and spend, or dribble left and spin. 0:22:59.040 --> 0:23:02.560 You know. So time Dirk went to dribble. 0:23:03.800 --> 0:23:06.200 On that second dribble, if he was getting ready to 0:23:06.240 --> 0:23:08.080 spend and somebody wasn't there, you're getting out. 0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:09.879 You're getting out the game. You may not never go 0:23:09.920 --> 0:23:10.680 in the game again. 0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:14.120 So once we started doing that, we was really disrupting 0:23:15.240 --> 0:23:18.080 Dirk timing. So if you watch it, if you watch 0:23:18.119 --> 0:23:20.880 the games, like he was balling still, but. 0:23:20.880 --> 0:23:23.720 He couldn't get comfortable, you know what. 0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:26.119 You know how it is, it's like, man, I'm scoring, 0:23:26.200 --> 0:23:28.680 but like I ain't been to my spot. He ain't 0:23:28.720 --> 0:23:31.640 got to his spot all game, you know what I mean. 0:23:32.240 --> 0:23:34.879 And then Josh Howard we had. He was the next 0:23:35.000 --> 0:23:37.879 you know, important person for them because he was like 0:23:37.920 --> 0:23:42.399 they glue guy scoring door and he went left all 0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:46.360 the time left, all his game was left. So we 0:23:46.359 --> 0:23:49.600 was like, don't let him go left. Jason Terry couldn't 0:23:49.600 --> 0:23:52.200 go left, he went right right, you know what I mean. 0:23:52.280 --> 0:23:56.240 So it was just like everything was just precise, it 0:23:56.359 --> 0:23:59.760 was detailed, and he was like, we're gonna beat these dudes. 0:24:00.119 --> 0:24:01.920 He said it the first day. He said, We're gonna 0:24:01.920 --> 0:24:04.119 beat him. It's what you're gonna do. Stay humble in 0:24:04.200 --> 0:24:07.199 the media, don't say nothing. Always get him praise, and 0:24:07.320 --> 0:24:10.560 just act like we're lucky, you know what I mean, 0:24:10.680 --> 0:24:13.600 Just act like we're lucky. But we had their number 0:24:13.680 --> 0:24:17.280 because on the other end, it was just hard for 0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:20.200 them to match up. Right if they tried to play 0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:22.520 a match up, which they did, which we didn't think 0:24:22.520 --> 0:24:25.440 they were gonna do. The first game was the dictator 0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:30.679 because they took the dude out the starting lineup, Damn Pierre. 0:24:32.400 --> 0:24:33.679 They took the big dude out. 0:24:34.960 --> 0:24:37.800 But you know, and he played against he played here 0:24:37.880 --> 0:24:40.560 for the Warriors, so you take him out the lineup 0:24:40.600 --> 0:24:43.639 like he looking for revenge. He got drafted here and 0:24:43.680 --> 0:24:45.480 then when he was in the game, like he was 0:24:45.560 --> 0:24:48.440 duncan you know what I mean, that's six eight easy. 0:24:48.160 --> 0:24:50.200 Points for him. 0:24:50.520 --> 0:24:52.280 But when they took him out the lineup, we was like, 0:24:52.320 --> 0:24:55.960 oh shit, like, yeah, they trying. 0:24:55.760 --> 0:24:57.159 To play our game, you know what I mean. It 0:24:57.160 --> 0:24:58.160 ain't gonna work like that. 0:25:02.960 --> 0:25:04.640 But y'all think y'all started the small ball. 0:25:05.840 --> 0:25:10.280 Oh shit, I don't know. I mean it was already started, 0:25:10.320 --> 0:25:14.480 like you know from from history, tell your story. He 0:25:14.880 --> 0:25:15.440 just wanted no. 0:25:15.600 --> 0:25:17.720 I think they started the small ball because I think 0:25:17.720 --> 0:25:20.000 they like they took Damn Pier out like we started 0:25:20.040 --> 0:25:21.000 the three point shooting ship. 0:25:21.040 --> 0:25:23.840 Don't worry about small ball. 0:25:23.880 --> 0:25:26.119 They started that, bro, because they took they took like 0:25:26.119 --> 0:25:27.760 you said, took dam Pier out the game. They tried 0:25:27.800 --> 0:25:29.320 to match up with them when they play the game. 0:25:29.440 --> 0:25:32.200 Now you got bad going at Dirk and all these dudes, 0:25:32.240 --> 0:25:34.040 and it's like it ain't hering. 0:25:33.680 --> 0:25:35.679 Player the five like the revolutionary with that. 0:25:36.040 --> 0:25:39.000 I mean, I think a lot of times when you're 0:25:39.080 --> 0:25:42.560 balling like that, the announcers say, oh, they're just out 0:25:42.560 --> 0:25:44.360 there playing, they don't, you know what I mean. It's 0:25:44.359 --> 0:25:50.560 like street balls, you man, high intellectual basketball move that 0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:53.040 fast to be thinking like that, be all thinking on 0:25:53.119 --> 0:25:56.000 what the cord. You gotta have some intelligent people, you 0:25:56.080 --> 0:25:58.119 know what I mean. And so I think for us, 0:25:59.000 --> 0:26:02.480 if you watch, I would say, we didn't start small ball, 0:26:02.680 --> 0:26:05.280 but we started like Mitch match basketball. 0:26:06.280 --> 0:26:07.520 You know what I mean. You got me. 0:26:07.720 --> 0:26:11.639 Stack, al Matt Barnes, Jay Rich out there a mante 0:26:11.680 --> 0:26:14.800 me Jay Rich Stack and you know what I mean. 0:26:15.280 --> 0:26:20.920 And Matt and what we started realizing was basketball is 0:26:22.119 --> 0:26:25.800 every team has one or two really good players. You 0:26:25.800 --> 0:26:29.640 gotta worry about the third and the fourth guy are 0:26:29.800 --> 0:26:32.800 really good too, but you know they're not They're not 0:26:32.960 --> 0:26:35.320 comfortable as those first two, you know what I mean. 0:26:35.480 --> 0:26:38.320 And so if you play to the tiers right and 0:26:38.359 --> 0:26:41.760 say like, we ain't gonna stop your main guy, We're 0:26:41.760 --> 0:26:44.720 gonna disrupt your main guy, and then the second tier 0:26:44.760 --> 0:26:47.080 and the third tier dudes, they're not getting nothing. 0:26:47.480 --> 0:26:48.080 You know what I mean? 0:26:48.119 --> 0:26:51.720 Because they are more limited, you know what I mean, 0:26:51.800 --> 0:26:55.200 for what they can do for the team, you know 0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:56.959 what I mean, And they don't have as much freedom 0:26:57.040 --> 0:26:58.960 as a dirt you know what I mean, or as 0:26:59.240 --> 0:27:02.680 as KG. So we would just watch teams and be like, oh, 0:27:02.680 --> 0:27:06.560 we're playing against Boston and they got Kendrick Perkins, and 0:27:06.640 --> 0:27:09.359 KG is like, oh, yeah, we're gonna run down because 0:27:09.400 --> 0:27:11.320 anybody can guard Perk, you know what I mean. 0:27:13.400 --> 0:27:16.359 You know, but anybody on our team, like you didn't 0:27:16.400 --> 0:27:19.959 care who guarded Perk, you know what I mean, though, 0:27:20.040 --> 0:27:21.040 that can guard anybody. 0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:24.639 Let's think about it, like if Boston start posting up 0:27:24.800 --> 0:27:28.320 Kendrick Perkins to play against us, right because it's a mess, 0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:31.480 it's a mismatch, We're gonna be like, damn, that's a mismatch. 0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:34.240 So you start creating dissension, you know what I mean, 0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:36.399 Like if we don't guard Who was the center on 0:27:36.800 --> 0:27:37.639 yall team? 0:27:37.920 --> 0:27:40.560 Boy, you had a lot of them, Boylin Horford. 0:27:41.840 --> 0:27:45.040 For y'all squad, y'all was difficult to y'all couldn't guard 0:27:45.080 --> 0:27:45.800 them like y'all. 0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:51.000 No, they were matchup problems. Josh Smith, Joe Johnson was unguardable. 0:27:51.280 --> 0:27:53.639 And then this motherfucker was just fast as hell. Then 0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:55.879 you got Kyle Korver. You can't even you know what 0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:56.200 I mean. 0:27:56.280 --> 0:27:56.560 It was. 0:27:56.760 --> 0:27:59.200 It was a lot of the they got. They created 0:27:59.240 --> 0:28:02.639 a whole little They were like the US in the East. 0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:05.520 Facts like US in the East. 0:28:05.840 --> 0:28:06.919 Try to disrub Lebron. 0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:10.520 That didn't work though, Yeah you said that to Dribble 0:28:10.560 --> 0:28:11.600 Lift were there. 0:28:11.600 --> 0:28:12.080 It didn't work. 0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:14.560 Yeah, I was putting the wrong dudes on le Bron. 0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:18.800 We ain't have nobody supposed to. Yeah, that's the problem. 0:28:18.800 --> 0:28:20.159 That's crazy, that's the problem. 0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:22.920 You're supposed to bring the hacks in first they came 0:28:22.960 --> 0:28:27.760 into Nah Man, you're supposed to tell the hacks Ivan Johnson, Man, 0:28:27.840 --> 0:28:31.879 he can't guard a little Bron. He's supposed he's supposed 0:28:31.880 --> 0:28:33.480 to say, Ivan Johnson. 0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:39.040 You're filing out today the first half, first quartering man, 0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:40.960 Come on there, that's in his ear. 0:28:41.040 --> 0:28:44.560 Hey, I need six, I need six, I need six 0:28:44.720 --> 0:28:52.280 filets like it ain't even Yeah, I don't care what 0:28:52.640 --> 0:28:55.000 I get you a bucket. 0:28:57.840 --> 0:28:59.640 If Ivan Johnson got six fous, the game would have 0:28:59.640 --> 0:29:00.080 been only. 0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:04.800 Ain't you see Naven Johnson. We was terrified when we 0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:06.200 seen that dude come in the game. 0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:07.320 Play with a grill for real. 0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:10.800 This dude was Hey, this dude was sick. Dude, Yeah, 0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:13.000 he came in the game. Dude was like, hey, hold. 0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:17.600 On, yeah, bro, who was that? 0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:18.880 He had thirty two goals? 0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:23.120 Bro? Hey dog? He I love that. Dude was a dog. 0:29:23.240 --> 0:29:25.160 It was like he came in the game looking like 0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:28.480 hold on, man, like, like who signed him? 0:29:30.120 --> 0:29:32.120 You know the story about that showed up? 0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:34.440 He got cut, bro, and came back to practice, and 0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:35.640 they were scared to like tell him. 0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:39.280 I swear, I swear that he got cut. And they 0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:41.720 came back to practice and they was like, who's gonna 0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:42.040 tell him? 0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:43.560 The league nobody. 0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:45.800 He started practicing agetting there. Everybody was like, you. 0:29:45.920 --> 0:29:46.640 Gotta keep you in. 0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:49.840 You'll gotta keep this fire because everybody on the team 0:29:49.920 --> 0:29:50.840 was probably scared too. 0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:53.840 I didn't even go home scared. 0:29:55.480 --> 0:29:57.840 Real. Imagine if he had to tell him, like, hey, bro, 0:29:57.960 --> 0:30:02.800 don't you know think they want you? 0:30:03.000 --> 0:30:06.440 He came back, Bro, It's crazy legend, but obviously we 0:30:06.480 --> 0:30:06.959 know what you did. 0:30:07.040 --> 0:30:08.000 Y'all took care of bits. 0:30:07.880 --> 0:30:08.360 With the mask. 0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:10.080 In the next round, you had one of the most 0:30:10.280 --> 0:30:14.080 iconic legendary dunks in the NBA history. Man, how was 0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:15.440 it going against that Jazz team. But a lot of 0:30:15.440 --> 0:30:17.920 people don't understand that Jazz team was lit like it 0:30:17.960 --> 0:30:20.000 was d Will Booze. That was one of the most 0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:21.440 underrated two man games. 0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:21.880 In the league. 0:30:22.200 --> 0:30:24.960 They were real good. They were like they were a machine, 0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:26.840 you know what I mean. I felt like if we 0:30:27.040 --> 0:30:31.800 could have got past Utah, we were a bad match 0:30:31.880 --> 0:30:34.680 up for San Antonio. Oh for sure, we're a bad 0:30:34.760 --> 0:30:38.680 match up for San Antonio because we can guard Tim 0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:42.280 Duncan with Beatrice and let Tim Duncan eat and then. 0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:43.840 Everybody, everybody, you know what I mean. 0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:47.600 But that boozer d Will was just like they were. 0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:50.640 They were just bigger than us, you know what I mean. 0:30:50.960 --> 0:30:54.680 And really it was like after the Dallas thing, it 0:30:54.800 --> 0:30:56.960 was like you riding a high and if you like, 0:30:57.040 --> 0:31:00.120 if you can't keep that ship going, and there was 0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:02.120 a moment where it's like two or three days and 0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:04.640 you're like, can sit and settle in, then. 0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:07.520 It's hard to get back, you know what I mean. 0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:10.800 So we had one eighteen out of twenty two to 0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:11.440 get there. 0:31:11.880 --> 0:31:13.240 Then when we got there. 0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:15.600 It was like, you know, remember the first round we 0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:18.760 won in game six, but I got kicked out game two. 0:31:19.480 --> 0:31:22.760 That got kicked out. We had the frisking thing, you 0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:24.000 know when we came home. 0:31:24.080 --> 0:31:26.000 So it was just all kind of like then I 0:31:26.080 --> 0:31:27.800 had to for door hat with the bullets. 0:31:27.840 --> 0:31:30.760 They try to get me kicked out. He was suspended. 0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:33.680 That was shit. I was saying, you know, that was 0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:34.800 NBA fashion, bro. 0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:37.880 It was like, way the playoffs coming, you know, ain't 0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:39.200 nobody really dressing up? 0:31:39.280 --> 0:31:41.240 Let me let me throw this bullet for door on. 0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:43.960 And then that was the four tunnel fits. By the way, 0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:46.440 I was like fits. 0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:48.880 And then they was complaining like, oh, this fool got 0:31:48.960 --> 0:31:50.280 live rounds in this hat. 0:31:50.400 --> 0:31:54.360 You know what I mean? He was really wildent. It 0:31:57.280 --> 0:32:01.400 was really wild with that. It was fashion. I bought it. 0:32:00.760 --> 0:32:01.920 It was hard. 0:32:05.560 --> 0:32:08.200 It wasn't like browns, it was it was hollow shells. 0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:10.240 I just want to ask you what was going through 0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:12.600 your mind when you dunked that though, because as a fan, 0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:15.000 we all was watching when you dunked it and pulled 0:32:15.080 --> 0:32:16.720 up and you'll see you had a waist trainer on. 0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:19.960 I was like, I was like, damn, I nigga got 0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:20.800 a waist trainer on. 0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:24.520 They he got the first d. 0:32:29.280 --> 0:32:30.440 You got, you got one. 0:32:30.520 --> 0:32:36.560 Now you got the real with that you know you've 0:32:36.560 --> 0:32:44.720 been looking awful difference since that niggas been traveling. 0:32:42.200 --> 0:32:48.960 Shout area, and he got you right. 0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:53.640 It was a back brace shot this back. 0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:56.320 Brace, Oh my god, and Nellie used to get on 0:32:56.400 --> 0:32:59.640 us about our way, so I would put this back 0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:02.560 brace on, like get my back warm, and obviously that 0:33:02.680 --> 0:33:05.480 came around my stomach. That's when I dunked. I just pulled. 0:33:05.600 --> 0:33:07.000 I didn't know what the fuck to do. I didn't 0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:08.040 even know I made. 0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:10.520 It, you know, until I looked over the side. 0:33:10.360 --> 0:33:12.920 And dudes, was like, na, that ship was crashing. 0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:16.479 Was crazy. You couldn't hear nothing. I couldn't hear nothing. 0:33:16.920 --> 0:33:21.000 All I could see was people just stun And then 0:33:21.040 --> 0:33:22.760 that's when I was like, all right, let me, you know, 0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:25.000 let me get my walk. And then stack came. Bro, 0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:27.160 I was it was epic. It wasn't like none of 0:33:27.320 --> 0:33:29.840 none of that ship was playing. I just put my 0:33:29.880 --> 0:33:32.600 shirt up, like get in my belly because I used 0:33:32.600 --> 0:33:33.160 to play. 0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:34.960 I used to be like fat bastard. 0:33:35.080 --> 0:33:36.840 You used to say that ship in practice all the 0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:39.000 time because Nelly used to fuck with me about my way. 0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:41.560 So that ship was crazy. 0:33:41.560 --> 0:33:45.080 That's probably top five dunks, bro, especially in the playoffs. 0:33:45.400 --> 0:33:47.160 It was, it was, it was. It was cool. 0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:49.400 I knew I was gonna get him now because he 0:33:49.440 --> 0:33:53.000 winked at me to play before. Oh so you got 0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:55.280 to watch the play before because I did the same 0:33:55.360 --> 0:33:58.920 exact move and I laid it up and he was 0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:01.800 standing under the base line right there. And when I 0:34:01.880 --> 0:34:03.600 laid it up, he looked at me when he took 0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:04.120 the ball out and. 0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:08.560 He was like, all right, let me meet you. So 0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:10.320 I was like, I'm about to try this shit again. 0:34:10.400 --> 0:34:12.879 I said, if I if I get there, I'm gonna 0:34:12.920 --> 0:34:15.960 try it. But when I got and I turned the corner, 0:34:16.080 --> 0:34:18.319 he was right in the same spot. I said, man, 0:34:18.320 --> 0:34:22.800 I'm about to try this, dude. And and when I 0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:25.960 dunked it, I thought the ball had bounced up, but 0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:29.000 it was like deafinite. Everybody was just like I saw 0:34:29.360 --> 0:34:31.000 Donald Foyle, like, oh my god. 0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:33.520 I was like, shot his ass, you know what I mean. 0:34:34.400 --> 0:34:36.520 My favorite dunk you had was against Jermaine o'nil. 0:34:36.560 --> 0:34:36.759 Though. 0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:41.080 That ship was nasty. I got tap into YouTube. I 0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:45.920 ain't seen it your research one in Charlotte. It was nasty. 0:34:46.440 --> 0:34:49.880 It was fun, man, I think for me, uh like 0:34:50.600 --> 0:34:53.480 people always think that, oh he was a dunking point guard, 0:34:53.560 --> 0:34:56.040 you know, like I ain't even like I wasn't even 0:34:56.080 --> 0:34:58.080 tripping on that shit. I just like dunking because I 0:34:58.120 --> 0:35:02.480 could dunk. But I was more into like passing, you know, 0:35:02.640 --> 0:35:04.799 like the bot like trying to create my own bop. 0:35:05.400 --> 0:35:07.759 But I always get credit for like now you the 0:35:07.800 --> 0:35:10.520 first you the first exposive point guard in the league. 0:35:10.760 --> 0:35:13.600 No, but I watched you at like EBC in New 0:35:13.680 --> 0:35:14.520 York and stuff. 0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:15.600 So we I'm a fan. 0:35:15.719 --> 0:35:18.800 Yeah, bro, I already knew you had handles, you can create, 0:35:18.880 --> 0:35:19.520 you can pass. 0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:21.640 And my my best friend back home named. 0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:25.360 Phield out the field, he like your biggest fan, like 0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:28.799 I feel you really really so he was real for real, like. 0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:30.919 He posted your hoghl like take at least once a month. 0:35:31.120 --> 0:35:37.759 I'm like, all right, my nigga postline with you for 0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:40.600 really for real. But he kept like he had put 0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:42.520 me on the way you play. He like, bro, you 0:35:42.600 --> 0:35:44.319 tripped and he the best point guard because I used 0:35:44.320 --> 0:35:46.400 to like steph Ma mar Berry too. Then I was 0:35:46.480 --> 0:35:49.560 I started watching you play. I'm like, damn, I'm trying 0:35:49.560 --> 0:35:52.080 to play like that. You're throwing it around people here 0:35:52.160 --> 0:35:54.240 ship I'm like, oh yeah, this kind of ship out. 0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:57.359 Like you had the size of Ventage too though. That's 0:35:57.360 --> 0:35:59.400 why I was like, damn, this niggas a little heavy. 0:35:59.840 --> 0:36:01.600 Now I had to go for him. 0:36:01.640 --> 0:36:01.799 Bro. 0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:04.160 The first time I stepped on the court, I'm a fan. 0:36:04.239 --> 0:36:06.479 I'm looking. I'm like, I don't funk this. 0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:09.720 Want eighty at my best. 0:36:10.160 --> 0:36:12.399 I'm like, man, funk I'm guard him and you know him, 0:36:12.400 --> 0:36:13.800 he come in like what the fuck? 0:36:14.840 --> 0:36:17.560 I said, Ship, I'm trying to be hard. 0:36:17.600 --> 0:36:25.800 I don't get what what's up? I was scared to say. 0:36:25.480 --> 0:36:27.879 Same thing, bro. I think it's when you're young, you're 0:36:27.880 --> 0:36:31.560 a rookie and uh, you going up against some dude. 0:36:31.600 --> 0:36:34.520 Because I was like that with GP, and I was like, damn, 0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:36.480 this this fool got me on the block, you know 0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:38.280 what I mean. Like I was like, Yo, do whatever 0:36:38.280 --> 0:36:41.800 you do, don't let GP push you up because elbow 0:36:41.840 --> 0:36:45.520 you you know what I mean, It's like run, damn 0:36:45.600 --> 0:36:46.520 he turn his spin. 0:36:47.200 --> 0:36:50.000 Can't ask for the ball, man, I was. I was 0:36:50.040 --> 0:36:53.640 elbow called the file. 0:36:57.000 --> 0:36:59.480 Was scary, you know, when you're young and he's like, damn, 0:36:59.480 --> 0:37:01.759 that's get Damn, that's Jake Kidd. 0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:03.160 Damn, that's Iverson. 0:37:03.360 --> 0:37:06.799 Yeah, that's Malberry Stephan Marberry, did me so cold my 0:37:06.880 --> 0:37:09.520 rookie year I had just got in the game. 0:37:10.360 --> 0:37:11.600 He was hot. 0:37:11.880 --> 0:37:13.919 You go to the whole scorem and get an an one, 0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:16.279 shoot a three. He had already had like twenty four 0:37:16.320 --> 0:37:18.400 in the first half. He ain't get an an one. 0:37:18.440 --> 0:37:21.600 He's like these you can't hold me. 0:37:21.920 --> 0:37:23.520 And he was like, oh me, you know what I mean, 0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:25.960 Like in my face, Ellen, and I ain't know what 0:37:26.000 --> 0:37:27.320 to do, you know, I'm like, damn. 0:37:28.120 --> 0:37:29.920 Elvin Campbell was like, oh, you're gonna. 0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:32.759 Let him talk to you like that. It's a song 0:37:32.880 --> 0:37:37.799 after the game. I mean, like, you know, because you know, 0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:40.800 I don't I don't really be talking. I don't talk trash, 0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:42.319 you know what I mean. I'm not like out there 0:37:42.360 --> 0:37:45.120 talking trash. So my natural response is. 0:37:45.080 --> 0:37:47.560 Like, all right, dude, I'm about to close line this, dude, 0:37:47.880 --> 0:37:50.160 you know what I mean. Like I was just automatically mad. 0:37:50.200 --> 0:37:54.320 But it was like you just nervous playing against dudes 0:37:54.360 --> 0:37:58.080 you watch play or somebody that you heard about that 0:37:58.200 --> 0:38:01.919 you're like, damn, Like I know I watched him play, 0:38:01.920 --> 0:38:03.960 but I never played against him. Like you always got 0:38:03.960 --> 0:38:05.840 that little nervous And that's what makes the league so 0:38:05.960 --> 0:38:09.480 fun because then full circle, come back. I'm playing with 0:38:09.520 --> 0:38:13.320 the Knicks, and you know, I'm struggling at this point. 0:38:13.360 --> 0:38:17.399 I'm like older, my body breaking down, and this fun 0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:17.960 right here. 0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:18.479 He just. 0:38:21.000 --> 0:38:24.319 Like just fucking me up and talking ship the whole time. 0:38:24.360 --> 0:38:27.239 And I'm like, why is this motherfucker talking ship to me? 0:38:27.320 --> 0:38:27.879 You know what I mean? 0:38:27.960 --> 0:38:30.359 Like like I ain't didn't, I don't even know this dude. 0:38:30.400 --> 0:38:32.960 I ain't even I don't know him. I ain't saying 0:38:33.000 --> 0:38:36.040 nothing to him, but he just you can't. You can't 0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:37.920 fuck with me, old ass. Get his old ass off 0:38:37.920 --> 0:38:41.080 the court. And Mellow at some point Mellow was like, hey, bro, 0:38:41.160 --> 0:38:43.120 you gotta stop let him talk to you like that. 0:38:44.680 --> 0:38:47.800 Don't trip Mellow. I'm gonna catch him in the summer. 0:38:51.040 --> 0:38:53.680 I don't know what else to do. Hey, that's why 0:38:53.719 --> 0:38:54.640 Jeff never played here. 0:39:00.719 --> 0:39:06.799 I wasn't said that. I ain't been to THEE. You're 0:39:06.800 --> 0:39:07.560 not speaking of that. 0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:10.360 A lot of people don't know like your involvement behind 0:39:10.400 --> 0:39:12.320 those two things, Like for me, like Rico Haines is 0:39:12.360 --> 0:39:13.840 like a YouTube, so I look forward to. 0:39:13.840 --> 0:39:15.240 The area summer to see them runs. 0:39:15.360 --> 0:39:17.640 And then like you talk about the Drew League, Like 0:39:18.160 --> 0:39:19.839 how is that like being a part of two things 0:39:19.920 --> 0:39:22.080 is so important in basketball, Like you have your direct 0:39:22.120 --> 0:39:22.920 fingerprint on that. 0:39:23.080 --> 0:39:25.520 Yeah, I would think, I would say for me, Uh, 0:39:25.840 --> 0:39:28.839 when I came in the league, it was a lot 0:39:28.840 --> 0:39:33.440 of LA players, but they won't like LA famous, you 0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:35.080 know what I mean. They all went off to college 0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:38.080 and other colleges and shit like that. So for me, 0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:40.040 it was like, man, I gotta do something for the 0:39:40.080 --> 0:39:44.000 next generation, cause like LA don't get no credit. Like 0:39:44.080 --> 0:39:47.480 I'm out here and I ain't seeing it. The hommies 0:39:47.520 --> 0:39:49.680 back home is better than a lot of these dudes. 0:39:49.680 --> 0:39:54.160 So like I wanted to invest my time in the 0:39:54.160 --> 0:39:58.560 next generation, you know, James Pool, you know, uh, all 0:39:58.680 --> 0:40:02.200 them dudes, Bobby Brown, Trevor drel Right. Like, it was like, Yo, 0:40:02.239 --> 0:40:06.040 if we can create some that's dope for us in LA, 0:40:06.200 --> 0:40:07.680 then we can make LA. 0:40:07.880 --> 0:40:09.319 Like the Rutger, we got the. 0:40:09.320 --> 0:40:12.279 Drew, We got the real run over here, and so 0:40:12.480 --> 0:40:14.799 it was first like get the real run cracking, and 0:40:14.840 --> 0:40:18.040 then the Drew was like the Jew was already in 0:40:18.120 --> 0:40:20.759 the hood, so nobody was going to the Drew. I 0:40:20.800 --> 0:40:24.799 took Tyerynlu to the Jew, though I took Tlu to 0:40:24.800 --> 0:40:26.279 the Jew when he was playing for the Lakers, and 0:40:26.280 --> 0:40:27.959 he was like, hey, bro, don't ever take me down. 0:40:29.000 --> 0:40:30.560 I'm cool, you know what I mean. I don't need 0:40:30.640 --> 0:40:34.240 a Saturday Sunday morning run like that. Like I'm cool. 0:40:34.680 --> 0:40:37.319 It's twelve dudes in the gym and they all talking shit. 0:40:37.800 --> 0:40:39.440 Three of them got Jerry Curls, you. 0:40:39.480 --> 0:40:39.960 Know what I mean. 0:40:41.000 --> 0:40:44.200 And so I think for for La, it was like, man, 0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:47.520 be a staple, be a staple, you know what I mean. 0:40:47.640 --> 0:40:51.600 And with the Jew it was sitting right there and 0:40:51.880 --> 0:40:55.240 Pool Lb, Trevor. 0:40:55.480 --> 0:41:01.600 The Year of the Lockout, Clake Thomas, Jabelle McGee, Javel, 0:41:02.200 --> 0:41:07.000 who else, James, All them dudes was hooping in the 0:41:07.120 --> 0:41:10.680 Drew Craig Smith. It was a bunch of dudes. And 0:41:10.719 --> 0:41:13.200 I came back and I was like, damn, like y'all 0:41:13.280 --> 0:41:17.520 the next wave. I want to invest my time and y'all. 0:41:17.719 --> 0:41:22.440 And then when Rico, Rico was coaching, not coaching, training, 0:41:22.560 --> 0:41:27.000 not not training and uh here he uh I think 0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:30.359 it was at Saint John's and then he was like, man, 0:41:30.400 --> 0:41:31.960 I don't know what I'm doing. I want to do this. 0:41:32.120 --> 0:41:34.680 I said, Bro, We're gonna create a logo, go back 0:41:34.719 --> 0:41:37.319 to UCLA. We're gonna start filming and we're gonna make 0:41:37.360 --> 0:41:41.120 you like our version of the West Coast Chris Brinkley. 0:41:41.600 --> 0:41:43.840 That's real mean, And so shout out to Chris Brinkley 0:41:43.880 --> 0:41:46.080 because he was doing me and I was like, Rico, 0:41:46.120 --> 0:41:48.480 that's all you need to do. So we put the 0:41:48.520 --> 0:41:52.200 cameras on Rico and then that's how now his ship 0:41:52.320 --> 0:41:56.840 is cracking. Mot godfather for Shure Bro. That's that's you know, 0:41:56.880 --> 0:42:00.400 that's my whole thing in LA. Like a lot of 0:42:00.480 --> 0:42:03.680 dudes may not give me credit. A lot of dudes 0:42:03.680 --> 0:42:06.520 may not, you know, or they may, but my goal 0:42:06.640 --> 0:42:10.120 was just to stand behind people or beat the ladder 0:42:10.440 --> 0:42:12.640 as somebody need push a ladder to him, you know 0:42:12.680 --> 0:42:15.440 what I mean, or push an opportunity to him. So 0:42:15.520 --> 0:42:18.840 it was you know who off court on court, like 0:42:18.840 --> 0:42:21.600 how do we bring this whole whole little thing together? 0:42:22.080 --> 0:42:22.520 For sure? 0:42:22.600 --> 0:42:24.560 I mean, and before we off this point like for 0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:28.120 me loving YouTube and like loving basketball to see y'all 0:42:28.120 --> 0:42:31.080 document like Kobe pulling up to the drew, which crazy, 0:42:31.600 --> 0:42:33.360 like that's a big moment for a lot of people 0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:36.439 in basketball because they changed a lot of jergy. 0:42:36.160 --> 0:42:38.279 For that, Eric kids, and like you said, for the 0:42:38.320 --> 0:42:38.920 drew itself. 0:42:39.200 --> 0:42:45.520 Man, that the Kobe moment, I wasn't there cause I 0:42:45.800 --> 0:42:50.120 brought Lebron, Yes, sir, the day before, literally the day before, 0:42:51.040 --> 0:42:55.520 show you Kobe power though, find out Lebron oh Lebron. 0:42:55.560 --> 0:42:57.400 After Drew, everybody going crazy. 0:42:57.520 --> 0:43:01.640 Right about six o'clock, somebody like, yo, Kobe coming up 0:43:01.680 --> 0:43:05.640 here tomorrow, Like who is Monday? He's like, so what 0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:08.759 Kobe said he wanted to get a game in. I 0:43:08.840 --> 0:43:12.880 was like, all right, like, who's gonna play? I go 0:43:12.960 --> 0:43:15.520 out of I go out of town. Everybody and their 0:43:15.600 --> 0:43:20.080 mama showed up on Monday. Doug, it wasn't even a Lebron. 0:43:20.280 --> 0:43:22.640 We brought him to the Drew to play in the game. 0:43:23.400 --> 0:43:25.359 Kobe was sitting at home, was like, hold on, let's 0:43:25.400 --> 0:43:29.600 set this up for me. Every pro, every young pro 0:43:29.760 --> 0:43:32.880 came out and it was up. I think that turned 0:43:32.920 --> 0:43:38.840 the corner for LA because now, like Kobe was right there, 0:43:39.040 --> 0:43:41.239 you never seen Kobe, you know what I mean, Like, 0:43:41.480 --> 0:43:43.759 especially the young dudes, like you don't never see Coche. 0:43:43.840 --> 0:43:44.560 That's Kobe. 0:43:45.280 --> 0:43:47.920 Kobe came to the Kobe came to the hood by 0:43:47.960 --> 0:43:49.680 itself on his own. 0:43:49.719 --> 0:43:51.839 Marrior. Now that that's you know what I mean? 0:43:51.880 --> 0:43:54.839 On the East Side. So Kobe coming to the East 0:43:54.920 --> 0:43:58.879 Side was way bigger than it, you know what I mean, 0:43:58.920 --> 0:44:01.600 It's way bigger. New was because you know, he had 0:44:01.600 --> 0:44:02.399 God out there. 0:44:02.680 --> 0:44:04.799 Facts, bro, Like we watched Kobe grow up. 0:44:04.880 --> 0:44:08.400 So for him coming to the hood that day, it's like, 0:44:08.840 --> 0:44:12.200 it's just like layers, Kobe here, Kobe here, like you bullshit, 0:44:12.280 --> 0:44:15.239 Kobe here, Kobe here, where nobody can get in the gym, 0:44:15.280 --> 0:44:17.799 nobody can get in the park. And the fact that 0:44:18.600 --> 0:44:21.640 shout out to Josiah Johnson and Chris Young, Yes, sir, 0:44:22.040 --> 0:44:25.719 they have to where with all the filming, cold bro, 0:44:25.800 --> 0:44:29.000 That's why I knew James Harden was real though, Yeah, 0:44:29.160 --> 0:44:33.640 Jamess like grooming James was like grooming himself. James studied Kobe, 0:44:34.120 --> 0:44:36.319 you know what I mean, And so James got a 0:44:36.320 --> 0:44:41.279 lot of just like of that offensive for sure, repertoire, 0:44:41.600 --> 0:44:42.120 you know what I mean. 0:44:42.680 --> 0:44:46.040 Say for sure, when did you start thinking about like 0:44:46.200 --> 0:44:49.239 life after basketball, Like what point of your career did 0:44:49.280 --> 0:44:51.719 you start thinking about other business endeavors like. 0:44:53.080 --> 0:44:58.600 Who after my first contract? Wow, I wanted to make 0:44:58.640 --> 0:45:02.080 it to the NBA. I wanted to get a rookie contract, 0:45:02.200 --> 0:45:04.799 and if I got a rokie contract, it was going 0:45:04.880 --> 0:45:06.920 to be enough to last me for the rest of 0:45:06.960 --> 0:45:07.400 my life. 0:45:07.680 --> 0:45:08.080 That's real. 0:45:08.520 --> 0:45:11.799 I tore my a cl in college ACL surgeries was like, 0:45:12.320 --> 0:45:13.240 you don't know how much. 0:45:13.320 --> 0:45:14.400 How long you got. 0:45:15.040 --> 0:45:18.799 And in that era, it was like after your rookie deal, 0:45:18.920 --> 0:45:22.480 if you ain't cracking you out, you know what I mean, 0:45:22.560 --> 0:45:25.640 especially for a point guard, like or are you backing up? 0:45:25.719 --> 0:45:26.480 You know what I'm saying. 0:45:26.600 --> 0:45:29.359 So for me, it was like once I once I 0:45:29.400 --> 0:45:33.239 got the MAX, I was like, okay, I'm a businessman now, 0:45:33.320 --> 0:45:35.520 you know what I mean. And I did my own deal, 0:45:36.080 --> 0:45:38.720 so I was my own agent in the deal. Yeah, 0:45:38.760 --> 0:45:41.880 So that's what made me all that fun. That's what 0:45:42.320 --> 0:45:44.799 sent me to like, oh shit, like I gotta take 0:45:44.800 --> 0:45:47.960 care of myself. I got a fin for myself. Like 0:45:48.000 --> 0:45:51.000 it was a good idea to like not have an agent. 0:45:51.239 --> 0:45:53.920 But at the same time, like bro, I didn't have 0:45:53.960 --> 0:45:56.520 an agent. I was like twenty two years old and 0:45:56.560 --> 0:46:01.920 it was me. Rico tdd Ramazar Earl was around us, 0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:05.800 but he was hooping and still in college. Ray young 0:46:06.440 --> 0:46:07.880 and it was just like my U, we're like a 0:46:07.920 --> 0:46:11.880 real life entourage. And it was like just trying to navigate, 0:46:12.120 --> 0:46:14.800 you know, the league and say yes, and no the deals. 0:46:15.320 --> 0:46:17.279 You know, we were like, man, I was like, fuck it, 0:46:17.920 --> 0:46:20.920 if I put anybody on, I won't put the hummies on. 0:46:22.600 --> 0:46:24.400 And so they want to be in the league. 0:46:24.560 --> 0:46:26.600 They want to be agents, they want to be coaches, 0:46:27.160 --> 0:46:29.480 right like, man, y'all just rock with me, you know 0:46:29.520 --> 0:46:31.680 what I mean. And anytime we get a call or 0:46:32.040 --> 0:46:34.160 we had a little po box set up, you know, 0:46:34.239 --> 0:46:36.479 back in the day, so anything went to the po box, 0:46:36.520 --> 0:46:39.120 we sit there, we'd be chopping it up and be like, 0:46:39.160 --> 0:46:40.919 all right, I want to do that. All right, let's 0:46:40.960 --> 0:46:42.279 go there, you know what I mean. So it was 0:46:42.320 --> 0:46:47.399 always like use me to get in. I don't think 0:46:47.400 --> 0:46:51.480 I ever approached the league after that as like it's 0:46:51.520 --> 0:46:54.120 all about me, you know what I mean. Like I 0:46:54.680 --> 0:46:57.759 wasn't like the person that was like, you know, basketball 0:46:57.840 --> 0:47:01.319 is everything and it's my creativity, my piece. But it 0:47:01.400 --> 0:47:04.920 was always like, damn, dude, I'm here. How many who 0:47:04.960 --> 0:47:05.560 can I help? 0:47:06.080 --> 0:47:07.160 Wrong? You know what I mean? 0:47:07.239 --> 0:47:08.880 Like, who can I help? Because I was I'm just 0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:10.640 a fan of the game. So to be on the 0:47:10.640 --> 0:47:13.600 court with these dudes and to play against an Iverson 0:47:13.719 --> 0:47:14.240 or a Mall. 0:47:14.120 --> 0:47:15.600 Bear, It's like, man, I'd have made it. 0:47:15.640 --> 0:47:17.759 You know what I mean, how can I help other 0:47:17.800 --> 0:47:20.800 people get in this space because it can save lives, 0:47:20.840 --> 0:47:21.640 you know, for show? 0:47:21.680 --> 0:47:24.080 And I think like now you would have really really 0:47:24.120 --> 0:47:26.560 throw up today the way that the NBA endorses people 0:47:26.560 --> 0:47:28.520 to show their brand and creativity and stuff like that, 0:47:28.520 --> 0:47:30.960 because obviously you want the most credit people to ever 0:47:31.000 --> 0:47:33.960 touch a basketball, then you use the NBA program, Like 0:47:34.080 --> 0:47:35.960 how was that coming about? Like you said, all right, now, 0:47:36.000 --> 0:47:38.719 I'm a businessman. I got this relationship with the league. 0:47:38.719 --> 0:47:40.239 I'm gonna just use this to build my brand to 0:47:40.239 --> 0:47:41.359 help everybody else, he too. 0:47:42.000 --> 0:47:45.600 Man, it was just I was doing whatever I wanted 0:47:45.640 --> 0:47:47.080 to do. Honest, that's far. 0:47:47.239 --> 0:47:49.600 You know, you're twenty three, you got a lot of money, 0:47:50.480 --> 0:47:55.080 you have no mentors, you have nobody. 0:47:54.640 --> 0:47:55.560 Leading you know what I mean. 0:47:55.600 --> 0:47:57.880 It was like I was really like really one of 0:47:57.920 --> 0:48:01.480 the first ones I was like from LA to do it. 0:48:01.520 --> 0:48:04.799 So it wasn't like older people reaching out like yo, 0:48:04.880 --> 0:48:06.640 you're trying to do that, let me help you out, 0:48:06.800 --> 0:48:08.520 you know what I mean. It was more so like, 0:48:08.600 --> 0:48:10.560 oh shit, like let me see I can get on. 0:48:10.760 --> 0:48:14.319 Everybody was like really just like trying to get on, 0:48:14.560 --> 0:48:17.120 trying to get on, trying to get on So for me, 0:48:17.280 --> 0:48:19.640 I was just like, I'm just gonna do all this 0:48:19.640 --> 0:48:23.399 shit myself. I'm gonna take the experience. I'm gonna learn 0:48:23.440 --> 0:48:27.200 the experience, and then I'm gonna figure out along the 0:48:27.239 --> 0:48:28.920 way what worked for me. 0:48:29.520 --> 0:48:29.759 Right. 0:48:29.920 --> 0:48:33.719 And so even though I'm in the NBA my business 0:48:33.880 --> 0:48:38.239 as an agent, I'm outsider looking in. So I got 0:48:38.239 --> 0:48:41.960 to make relationships with the equipment manager, with the VP 0:48:42.080 --> 0:48:45.120 of marketing, with the salesperson, like I need to know 0:48:45.160 --> 0:48:48.759 what everybody do, so they don't know I ain't got 0:48:48.800 --> 0:48:49.200 no agent. 0:48:49.320 --> 0:48:52.120 Someone I'm asking questions, you know what I mean. I 0:48:52.160 --> 0:48:53.680 come up on the deal, you know what I mean. 0:48:53.719 --> 0:48:56.880 And that's how that's what happened with Vitamin Water. I 0:48:56.920 --> 0:49:01.440 was with Sprite in my REP. Fright was leaving Sprite 0:49:01.440 --> 0:49:04.520 to go to bidamin Water, and I didn't understand, Like, 0:49:04.600 --> 0:49:07.560 I could not understand why he was leaving and taking 0:49:07.640 --> 0:49:10.839 less money to go to a company that like wasn't 0:49:10.880 --> 0:49:12.080 even a big company. 0:49:12.640 --> 0:49:14.040 And that's how I learned startup. 0:49:15.080 --> 0:49:17.360 And he told me like, this is a startup company, 0:49:17.360 --> 0:49:19.120 and I was like, what the fuck is the startup company? 0:49:19.160 --> 0:49:22.520 It was like, oh, that's how remember power Ad got 0:49:22.520 --> 0:49:25.560 bought at eighty million dollars. I was like, damn, if 0:49:25.560 --> 0:49:30.479 I take this Sprite money for three years, like cool, 0:49:30.520 --> 0:49:32.960 I'll be cool. I may get a commercial. I ain't 0:49:33.000 --> 0:49:36.520 getting no commercial, you know what I mean. I'm gonna 0:49:36.520 --> 0:49:39.080 go and take this Vitamin Water deal because I'm already 0:49:39.080 --> 0:49:42.080 on billboards out here and I could use my leverage 0:49:42.120 --> 0:49:45.319 to help them get in the game equity. And that's 0:49:45.320 --> 0:49:47.719 how it happened. And I was like, I want to 0:49:47.800 --> 0:49:50.399 learn marketing because that was my home. I was like, yo, 0:49:50.400 --> 0:49:52.600 if you leave it, I'm going with you. Just teach 0:49:52.640 --> 0:49:55.120 me how to do, like, teach me marketing codes and 0:49:55.160 --> 0:49:58.840 like the things y'all look for to like build the brand. 0:49:58.880 --> 0:50:01.960 So I was there and I watched Vitamin Water hire 0:50:02.320 --> 0:50:05.000 the right people, put all the right people in position, 0:50:05.239 --> 0:50:07.839 bring in rock stars and the brand. Just like by 0:50:07.880 --> 0:50:10.000 the time I got here in Golden State. I remember 0:50:10.040 --> 0:50:13.680 I went to a conference and it was in Oakland 0:50:13.680 --> 0:50:16.319 at like the Hilton or something. It was like five 0:50:16.400 --> 0:50:20.200 hundred sales reps in there. I was like, damn, y'all 0:50:20.239 --> 0:50:22.560 moving up, you know what I mean? And it was 0:50:22.600 --> 0:50:24.640 cool because I got a chance to be a part 0:50:24.760 --> 0:50:29.080 of a company in my journey that started after me 0:50:29.719 --> 0:50:33.480 and finished way before me in accelerated time. So they 0:50:33.520 --> 0:50:36.920 went from fifteen to thirty million dollar company to a 0:50:36.920 --> 0:50:38.120 four billion dollar exit. 0:50:38.640 --> 0:50:39.319 Crazy bro. 0:50:40.160 --> 0:50:42.200 So that was your first that was your first initial 0:50:42.239 --> 0:50:43.439 investment wasamin Water. 0:50:43.520 --> 0:50:45.520 That was my first investment. That was my first time. 0:50:45.560 --> 0:50:48.759 I was like, you know what, ain't nobody doing equity 0:50:48.840 --> 0:50:51.520 deals for they brand, you know what I mean? And 0:50:51.600 --> 0:50:54.120 investing income People weren't really doing that. It was buying 0:50:54.200 --> 0:50:58.280 car washes, restaurant you know what I mean, restaurants, fast food, changed, 0:50:58.360 --> 0:51:02.680 parking lots, real estate. It wasn't nobody really like thinking 0:51:02.680 --> 0:51:05.759 about being an entrepreneur. We weren't taught that, you know 0:51:05.800 --> 0:51:07.839 what I mean. We weren't taught that. The NBA wasn't 0:51:07.840 --> 0:51:10.719 coming by saying like, yeah, be an entrepreneur, you know 0:51:10.760 --> 0:51:12.880 what I mean. They were like, yeah, save your money 0:51:13.360 --> 0:51:15.239 because people out here trying to take your money, you 0:51:15.320 --> 0:51:18.280 know what. It was like that that type of financial 0:51:18.320 --> 0:51:19.920 literacy conversation. 0:51:21.000 --> 0:51:23.640 As far and obviously now they do a good job 0:51:23.640 --> 0:51:25.680 and making sure I were having programs available for the 0:51:25.680 --> 0:51:27.400 players who went through the process and vets and that 0:51:27.520 --> 0:51:29.200 nature to all right, once you leave here, we got 0:51:29.200 --> 0:51:31.640 these opportunities for you'all to stay around making money rights 0:51:31.680 --> 0:51:33.319 things like that before we get out of here, man 0:51:33.320 --> 0:51:34.400 telling people what you got going on? 0:51:34.480 --> 0:51:35.880 Man, what's new with you? You know what I'm saying. You know, 0:51:35.880 --> 0:51:37.279 you're be in the studio and. 0:51:37.200 --> 0:51:40.200 I got we are about to launch Slick TV. So 0:51:40.239 --> 0:51:45.759 I've just been cooking up my little podcast talk show. 0:51:46.040 --> 0:51:48.919 Okay, shout ou out to the C and CJ. Matt 0:51:48.960 --> 0:51:49.520 got a show. 0:51:49.560 --> 0:51:53.400 So we're gonna be basically launching like our whole large 0:51:53.440 --> 0:51:56.960 stream twenty four to seven channel. And the whole point 0:51:57.200 --> 0:52:00.279 is for us as the culture have. 0:52:00.600 --> 0:52:03.160 To be on TV. And so that's what you know 0:52:03.239 --> 0:52:04.080 we've been working on. 0:52:04.440 --> 0:52:08.640 And then I got a character that I created called 0:52:08.640 --> 0:52:14.840 Bart Oatmeal and he rapped make music produced in DJ. 0:52:15.360 --> 0:52:19.919 So we got two projects that are coming out over 0:52:19.920 --> 0:52:25.200 the next three four weeks. And then my birthday April thirteenth, 0:52:25.800 --> 0:52:28.640 my first live show with a bunch of dudes. 0:52:28.680 --> 0:52:30.680 So shout out to Big Rich. I know he in here. 0:52:30.920 --> 0:52:31.759 Shot Big Rich. 0:52:31.880 --> 0:52:35.760 It's Rich on the background, Big Rich, Bay Area legend. 0:52:36.160 --> 0:52:38.239 We got mister fab I checked. 0:52:38.280 --> 0:52:38.400 You know. 0:52:38.520 --> 0:52:40.880 My goal is like to make. 0:52:40.760 --> 0:52:45.120 Music with all the dudes I admire. Respect was in 0:52:45.200 --> 0:52:50.040 my age range, you know what I mean, And really 0:52:50.120 --> 0:52:52.359 like I was just trying to get some credibility because 0:52:52.400 --> 0:52:55.360 my brother was like, bro, nobody's gonna take you serious 0:52:56.320 --> 0:52:58.480 as a rapper, Like he was always say you're a hooper, 0:52:58.520 --> 0:53:00.440 You're a hooper first, and I was fuck that. 0:53:00.920 --> 0:53:02.960 I'm gonna make myself a rapper, you know what I mean. 0:53:02.960 --> 0:53:06.799 I'm gonna validate myself as a rapper and build and 0:53:06.880 --> 0:53:10.640 build this character so the rap dudes can fuck with 0:53:10.680 --> 0:53:13.120 the character and then Baron Davis could be their friend, 0:53:13.160 --> 0:53:15.840 you know what I mean. And so now it's turning, 0:53:16.080 --> 0:53:19.319 you know, Barto Mill get a ball, y'all be able 0:53:19.320 --> 0:53:21.000 to down download the music. 0:53:21.600 --> 0:53:24.040 It's cool, it's a vibe, you know what I mean. 0:53:24.120 --> 0:53:26.640 So that's really what I've been on like that, and 0:53:26.800 --> 0:53:30.160 just working on writing scripts and things like that. I'm 0:53:30.160 --> 0:53:35.040 coming out with not WTF my little series I have, 0:53:35.200 --> 0:53:38.239 but a different version of it. So I've been working 0:53:38.239 --> 0:53:40.319 I just finished that, so I'm working on that too. 0:53:42.080 --> 0:53:44.439 I'm just trying to entertain people, make them laugh and shit. 0:53:44.800 --> 0:53:48.839 What all right, what's what rapper that you would want 0:53:48.880 --> 0:53:52.000 to work with though that you probably ain't got in 0:53:52.040 --> 0:53:55.560 contact with? Shit, Like, what's up because you probably in 0:53:55.640 --> 0:53:58.719 contact with all the LA area people. But is it 0:53:58.840 --> 0:54:00.680 somebody that you'd be like, Damn, I love to have 0:54:00.800 --> 0:54:01.839 this person on the track. 0:54:03.320 --> 0:54:09.160 Fucking with bart U, I mean obviously Dre okay, Yeah, Drake, 0:54:09.600 --> 0:54:12.280 ken Jack, come on that LA make it happen. 0:54:14.360 --> 0:54:17.520 Fifty c fuck with fifty. 0:54:17.840 --> 0:54:20.560 Yeah, you're gonna have your power to be careful. 0:54:20.960 --> 0:54:25.239 That's fine. Let me get on. Let me get on 0:54:25.719 --> 0:54:29.120 to think out who else? 0:54:29.520 --> 0:54:34.719 Juvenile Juvie and little Way Wayne? But you you and 0:54:34.760 --> 0:54:35.479 Wayne Boy? 0:54:35.760 --> 0:54:38.120 Yeah, I need I need a joint with Wayne? Who going? 0:54:38.280 --> 0:54:38.560 Who? 0:54:38.600 --> 0:54:38.719 Who? 0:54:38.840 --> 0:54:40.320 Finishing the track? You were? Wayne? 0:54:40.680 --> 0:54:40.879 Who? 0:54:41.080 --> 0:54:41.319 Wayne? 0:54:41.360 --> 0:54:44.960 Gotta finisht got my man okay yet finished? 0:54:44.960 --> 0:54:47.000 Would you do a track with any other hooper like Dame? 0:54:47.200 --> 0:54:47.920 Yeah? Hell yeah. 0:54:47.960 --> 0:54:51.959 I've been trying to get Dame on the record. Dame really, 0:54:52.000 --> 0:54:54.200 I think Dan when I talked to Dame, I think 0:54:54.239 --> 0:54:57.560 he thinks is Baron Davis trying to get a record 0:54:57.560 --> 0:55:02.000 from him? But He's like, no, bart open Trump people 0:55:02.040 --> 0:55:05.880 be confused with it too. But with Dame music, we 0:55:06.000 --> 0:55:08.719 always talk about this, you know at our spot is 0:55:08.760 --> 0:55:12.920 like who are the best hoop rappers hoop musicians? And 0:55:13.000 --> 0:55:15.879 so I do want to put together a project where 0:55:15.880 --> 0:55:18.680 we can get everybody on the record. 0:55:18.840 --> 0:55:19.359 You know what I mean. 0:55:19.440 --> 0:55:27.040 On the album you shunk Dame Bridges Bridges. 0:55:31.880 --> 0:55:36.560 Hard, Yeah, I got that tough. You gotta put on 0:55:36.960 --> 0:55:39.480 he tough. You gotta put these on there. 0:55:40.880 --> 0:55:43.600 I mean, you know you can let Vic sing the 0:55:43.640 --> 0:55:45.440 Hook the Deep. 0:55:47.080 --> 0:55:49.840 Too. It's somebody else who sing to in the league? 0:55:49.960 --> 0:55:52.520 Oh you know who else? Cold and Rap? Triple j 0:55:53.000 --> 0:55:55.239 Oh for he got a sick. He had a sick 0:55:55.280 --> 0:56:02.520 Little Triple. I think it's Triple j Jay Jared Jackson. 0:56:02.800 --> 0:56:03.520 Oh really. 0:56:04.960 --> 0:56:07.239 Video look to hear about that. 0:56:08.480 --> 0:56:10.640 It's hard. It's hard. You're gonna like it's a body. 0:56:11.480 --> 0:56:13.560 Like. The cool thing about these young dudes, man, is 0:56:13.600 --> 0:56:17.040 like they have creative freedom and they can be themselves 0:56:17.400 --> 0:56:19.160 and they don't give a fuck, you know what I mean. 0:56:19.239 --> 0:56:21.439 It's like they hoop all day. They love a hoop. 0:56:21.480 --> 0:56:24.200 And now they know, like, if my hobby is twitch 0:56:24.239 --> 0:56:26.120 and playing video games, you can do that. If I 0:56:26.160 --> 0:56:27.839 want to make music, you can do that. You got 0:56:28.280 --> 0:56:31.200 plenty of time in the day. And I think a 0:56:31.200 --> 0:56:33.799 lot of times, like we're in our era, people didn't 0:56:33.840 --> 0:56:37.640 know that we had hobbies. They just thought practice show 0:56:37.719 --> 0:56:40.960 up on TV and never see whatever the media wanted 0:56:41.000 --> 0:56:42.560 to show was who your brand was. 0:56:42.800 --> 0:56:43.320 Yeah. 0:56:43.520 --> 0:56:47.040 Now since social media you can say hey, hoop, but 0:56:47.080 --> 0:56:49.440 I'm also in the fact, like you can communicate, you 0:56:49.480 --> 0:56:51.680 know what I mean. So these dudes is like they're 0:56:51.760 --> 0:56:54.480 just going up being who they want to be, you know. 0:56:54.560 --> 0:56:57.080 And I just feel like all of it is like 0:56:57.120 --> 0:56:59.400 a shade of like all the things that I was 0:56:59.440 --> 0:57:02.279 fighting for or to like be for myself, you know 0:57:02.320 --> 0:57:05.040 what I mean. So I can just all I want 0:57:05.080 --> 0:57:06.960 to do is just give roses and you know what 0:57:07.000 --> 0:57:09.400 I mean, be a fan and support you know, this 0:57:09.520 --> 0:57:10.240 next generation. 0:57:10.480 --> 0:57:13.239 You think Instagram would have messed up the league back 0:57:13.280 --> 0:57:14.040 when you came in. 0:57:14.800 --> 0:57:15.640 I had a lot of it. 0:57:17.760 --> 0:57:22.880 That we believe, no way would we might have even 0:57:22.920 --> 0:57:27.680 made it. The whole team would have been suspended so 0:57:27.720 --> 0:57:31.520 far what Twitter, we would have had beef in cities. 0:57:31.200 --> 0:57:34.720 People been waiting, people would wait. Y'all was real different. 0:57:36.480 --> 0:57:38.600 It was. I can't say it. 0:57:39.080 --> 0:57:41.680 But you gotta have one of my teammates because I 0:57:41.760 --> 0:57:43.680 used to grab a mic and say some wild Ship 0:57:44.560 --> 0:57:49.640 come on, man, Yeah, you gotta get Madden stack. 0:57:49.840 --> 0:57:50.000 You know. 0:57:50.040 --> 0:57:52.840 We went out New Year's Eve, We play Houston. We 0:57:52.960 --> 0:57:56.440 beat Houston, and you know, we got homies on the Rockets, 0:57:57.480 --> 0:57:59.240 so they came and funk with us in the club. 0:57:59.360 --> 0:58:02.800 When they said, I'll go grab a mic and say 0:58:02.840 --> 0:58:05.520 funck everybody. 0:58:06.280 --> 0:58:07.160 The Houston Rockets. 0:58:07.400 --> 0:58:14.600 It's something my homeboy right there, Buzzie Luthor head, you know, 0:58:14.800 --> 0:58:18.280 just like we were so cool that other you know, 0:58:18.400 --> 0:58:20.880 like even though we had homies on other teams. Yeah, 0:58:21.240 --> 0:58:23.560 like I ain't really coming to Atlanta and me and 0:58:23.640 --> 0:58:25.000 you going out unless it's like. 0:58:25.840 --> 0:58:26.800 We went to school together. 0:58:26.840 --> 0:58:28.680 We got here, man, we was having all kind of 0:58:28.760 --> 0:58:31.400 dudes on other teams coming out with us. Like, man, 0:58:31.400 --> 0:58:34.120 we're fucking with y'all where you're going tonight? Yeah, like 0:58:34.160 --> 0:58:35.439 what's going up that hard? 0:58:36.720 --> 0:58:36.880 Man? 0:58:36.920 --> 0:58:38.320 We could do this all day when I get up 0:58:38.280 --> 0:58:39.800 out of here, Max, you know, us and Baron Davis 0:58:39.800 --> 0:58:40.720 one time, one time. 0:58:40.920 --> 0:58:41.600 Appreciate it. 0:58:41.920 --> 0:58:44.479 Appreciate you rocking with us. Sorry, I appreciate you. 0:58:44.400 --> 0:58:46.400 Man, know what it is Club five twenty here here. 0:58:46.440 --> 0:58:48.840 Really appreciate y'all rocking with us to the next time 0:58:49.360 --> 0:58:49.840 we out