Hour 2 – NFL Week 11 Full Recap, Paul Skenes

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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio Hour two on this Tuesday. Will head to Vegas after the show Thursday and Friday at the Fountain Blue Hotel. If you want to stop by, we could have a studio audience there. We're going to be inside as opposed to the Super Bowl. A couple of years ago, they traded us. Well, wonderful place, the newest hotel on the Strip. Paul Skeens, the Pirate Psy Young Award winner, will stop by. There was a little bit of a story last week or a couple of days ago where the report was Paul Skeens confided in a pirate player, unidentified pirate player, who said that he hopes to be traded to the Yankees by next year's trade deadline. So we'll talk to him about that. I know that he and his girlfriend bought an apartment in New York, and I don't know if you can connect the dods there. Maybe she wants to be there, give her more access with her as well. So Paul's schemes will join us coming up here in about twenty minutes. Reggie Miller will join us next hour. You got the Cowboys over the Raiders thirty three sixteen. So Dallas is four five and one. Las Vegas is two to eight. You know, Vegas. I look at that offense and it's terrible. They're averaging fifteen points a game. They're thirty first in the NFL, only the Titans. How many touchdowns have the Titans scored this year? Have the Titans scored like ten touchdowns? Or is it maybe twelve touchdowns? But the Raiders averaging fifteen and a half points per game this season. And I did think with Ashton Genty, Rock Bowers, Gino Smith, they were going to be able to score some points. Max Crosby, you know, one of my favorite players in the NFL was going to wreak havoc.

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Speaker 2: You got Pete Carroll.

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Speaker 1: And maybe there was going to be something there by the way that felt like a home game for Dallas Cowboys last night, easy travel. Hey, let's go to Vegas for a couple of days and watch our team win a game. And Dallas is in this and I'm not saying that, you know for clicks like they have a chance to be in this. But you got the Eagles coming out, you got a couple of tough games back to back to back but at the end of the season, I got the Giants and the Commanders. Maybe you could get you know, maybe eight nine wins. Maybe NFC is tougher though than the AFC. There's a lot of quality teams there, Yes, PAULI.

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Speaker 3: Your Titans, by the way, have six passing touchdowns and four rushing touchdowns on a season, lowest in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: They have ten touchdowns. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Balanced offense though, Yeah, I gotta.

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Speaker 4: Like the balance.

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Speaker 1: I'd be curious the fewest touchdowns this far into an NFL season, because ten ten is sparse.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Dylan, I.

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Speaker 5: Feel like there had to be some of those Brown teams earlier this century that may have had less than that.

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Speaker 2: All right, well we'll look at that.

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Speaker 4: Paul got it kind of quickly.

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Speaker 3: The lowest scoring teams of the past twenty five years, the two thousand Browns scored only one hundred and sixty one points. On the season, they had nine passing touchdowns and seven rushing touchdowns. The only thing worse than that as far as scoring touchdowns, the Raiders of six scored one hundred and sixty eight points, but it was seven passing touchdowns and only five rushing touchdowns. That's the worst I could find in the past quarter sec.

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Speaker 2: So the Titans are on pace here.

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Speaker 4: Oh, they got a record to break.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they they gotta check. You're saying you got a chance.

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Speaker 3: They got to slow things down on offense. They break that record. They got to things down.

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Speaker 6: Oh.

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Speaker 1: I think they're doing a pretty good job on their own. All right, we say good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, our streaming partner, or you're watching on NBC Sports Network, are you listening on our radio affiliates around the country have another poll question coming up.

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Speaker 2: James Franklin to Virginia Tech.

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Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin's family is taking a private tour of Florida and LSU. Once again, Lane is not, but his family is. And to me, the first time I heard this was is somebody leaking this for negotiations? Because you want leverage and Lane has leverage. You got the best year old, missus ever had, they're going to be in the playoffs and all of a sudden LSU and Florida open up. I know it'll never happen, and in this case it doesn't make sense, But one time, I'd love for an athletic director to say, are you looking at other jobs? Are you looking at other jobs? Does that violate your contract? Like I would, I would say decide like if you're sending your family, why is your family going there?

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Speaker 7: Now?

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Speaker 1: I know you know the athletic director is going to say, no, we don't want to lose Lane Kiffin. But I wish one time somebody would just say, you know what, we hired you, we pay you, Okay, we're in this together. Now all of a sudden, you got a better deal.

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Speaker 2: Okay, why don't you go? Yeah, Paulie.

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Speaker 3: According to Stuart Mandel of the Athletic, that's kind of what they're doing. The report is that old miss said to Lane Kiffin, we need to know your decision before the egg Bowl, which I think is the twenty eighth, and that would mean that they must have given him a great offer or they their offer and they're waiting on his decision.

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Speaker 1: Eight seven seven three DP show operator Tyler is sitting by, take your phone calls, Todd is here, Dylan is infancy?

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Speaker 2: What is all?

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Speaker 8: Miss? That kind?

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Speaker 9: They can get someone as good, if not better by How fuck can they push the I need to know by this date? Or why don't you just take that other job? Are they in a position to really say that's lit?

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Speaker 2: I just I can't.

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Speaker 1: It's weird when you go, hey, we want you here, we're doing really well here, We're gonna give you a bigger offer, but you're gonna go and talk to these other schools.

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Speaker 10: I get it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's like, Hey, I'm happily married, but you know what, I'm gonna go see somebody in Louisiana and somebody in Florida, and then I'll get back to you if I'm still really happy.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Deally.

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Speaker 5: It's sort of the old is flirting cheating question?

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Speaker 4: We move on other topic?

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Speaker 2: What's the pole question? For an hour or two?

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Speaker 5: Well, we got results from the previous EDDA after a brief Twitter shutdown, it's back up. If you're laying Kiffin, are you staying at Ole, miss, going to Florida, going to LSU or other Sixty percent they stay at Ole.

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Speaker 1: Miss, I hope he does, but you know, if it's not now, then it could be some other time that he decides to go, and.

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Speaker 2: He has built up the resume to be able to do that. Yeah, pull.

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Speaker 3: It feels like Lane Kiffin has hit his stride as a coach. He's no longer jumping all over the place. He's no longer too young for the stage. And you're getting him at his prime, at his peak, or whatever you want.

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Speaker 4: To call it.

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Speaker 3: And if you look at what they did at Alabama when they had Nick Saban in two thousand and seven, all he did was win for the next two decades, and every dollar they spent on Nick Saban they got back three.

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Speaker 4: It was the best deal in sports.

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Speaker 3: The length the Nick Saban contracts at Alabama was the best investment in sports the past twenty years. And I think Old Miss has to look at it saying, do we want to be seven and six again or do we want to be eleven and two regularly? And Lane Kiffin can keep us relevant and making much more money by being eleven and two.

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Speaker 1: Okay, But if you give him the money and put him up there in the top five of coaches, okay, now we're kind of saying we're gonna Yeah, it shouldn't be money. This feels like it's I've taken this as far as I could go, almost like Brian Kelly at Notre Dame. Yeah, Hey, I want to win a national championship. You can go to LSU. I don't care what kind of coach you are. You can win one there because they've had three different guys win national titles there.

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Speaker 2: Florida.

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Speaker 1: I want to go there. They win national titles. People don't win national titles at Old Miss. And he would have a fair argument with that. Yes, Todd, I.

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Speaker 9: Understand where all home this is coming from, in loyalty and you know, are you all in with us?

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Speaker 8: But isn't there something to be said if you.

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Speaker 9: Work your whole life towards something and you're one of the best, and you put yourself in a position where others want to court you, don't you ow its yourself to at least hear the math or see what it's all about, not necessarily flirting. But I've got myself to a level with there's an interest in me at some big programs or whatever your job or career is. And don't you again ow its yourself to hear other places out just to say.

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Speaker 2: For sure, this is what the agent does.

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Speaker 1: He's got, you know, the most powerful agent in college football.

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Speaker 2: You're creating, you know.

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Speaker 1: But if Todd, if you all of a sudden said, hey, you know, I'm in the last year of my contract and I'm I'd like to talk, you know, to Jim Rome or Colin Cowherder. They put out somebody's name there, I would tell you to go. If you want to go and talk to them, I would just say, then go, okay, do you understand that?

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Speaker 10: Though?

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Speaker 9: I also think there's a difference between you initiating and looking for other things as opposed to someone is approaching.

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Speaker 8: You and just wants to chat with you.

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Speaker 9: Then that and I guess the answer is supposed to be you're saying, in all instances, I'm doing this right now.

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Speaker 8: I'll talk to you in a couple of years.

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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, you are with me, We're in it together. But if you it now, you guys have probably been approached. Pauli's been approached by people and they kick the tires on this.

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Speaker 2: Hey you know, are you interested?

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Speaker 1: Paul's using pretty good and saying, hey, you know, somebody reached out okay, But if you're actively, you know, going to follow up, then I would just say, then just go if that's what you're If it's almost like retirement when you start talking about retirement, then retire. That's why I always I tell athletes, if you're thinking about it, then do it, because it's already in your mind. But at some point, and I know, loyalty is dead. Loyalty is dead in college athletics, maybe in all of sports.

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Speaker 2: But you know, there's.

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Speaker 1: Something to be said for they took a chance on you. You came in, you delivered. Everybody wins. And if you want to go and you're going to have your family on private planes going to Florida and LSU, then you know what, why don't you go? What are you finding out on that fact finding mission there? They've been to Florida, they've been to LSU. This feels like a negotiating ploy.

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Speaker 3: That's all this is because you know Lane can't be on that plane, but the family can, and you either they're going to find out by default or you're going to leak it. The one thing, though, I'd love to know is that if Lane Kiffen's agent said, Ole Miss, here's the number we want and they said okay. Imagine if they said it and said, okay, we'll match your number. Do it today. Don't leave the office, don't leave the building. I'd love to know if that happened.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't.

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Speaker 1: I mean, is it a million dollars here? A million and a half. Now they might say, well, our our treasure trove at LSU and Florida is better, bigger, unlimited, the you know, things we can do and they can't.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I understand all of those things. It's just why have contracts? Remember these coaches they go, oh, if I you give me a ten year deal, then those those players know I'm going to be here. No, they don't. They don't know if you're going to last ten years, five years, three years, Yes, Dylan, what do you.

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Speaker 5: Think the percentage of those ten year contracts that actually get filled to fruition are It's got to be very lopsided on you.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to say, see roll Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Mark Fewitt Gunzaga be about it. A couple of phone calls in here, Paul and Iowa, Hi, Paul Wood's on your mind today?

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Speaker 10: Hey, Dan, I don't know what Lane Kiffen needs to learn. About LSU that he can't learn from his daughter's boyfriend who's on the team. But my call is about a different situation up here in Iowa. I'd like you to kind of assess the attractability of the Hawkeye's job because Kirk Ference is the longest tenured coach in Division one, speaking of those ten year contracts, and his succession plan to its son failed. But they're having a pretty good year on the edge of the ranking. When is it time to hang it up to maybe find the next coach because there's so many available right now. Iowa in a good position for the future.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to give credit to both sides for being loyal. Okay, it's it's not a word we use very often. And are there times when I thought Kirk Ference was going to go to the NFL? We're taking another job? Yeah, I do. But it feels like this is who you are? Can you be better than this? Is it an attractive job? I mean it's a great environment when you go to an Iowa football game.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Dylan, I.

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Speaker 5: Think we just figured it out. One for one trade Kirk Ference for Lane Kiffen.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Delan, You're welcome.

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Speaker 4: I think the Iowa.

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Speaker 3: Thing is interesting because Kirk Farence never has awful years. They're always average, above average. They always have, you know, six wins, ten wins, eight wins, nine wins. He never has that season. We're like, we have to blow this thing up.

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Speaker 1: Scotty in Vegas, Hi, Scotty, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 8: Hello?

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Speaker 11: Dan? I just wanted to real quick say hello, good morning to the boys. I'm a bartender here in Vegas, and if you want to come for a dinner, I would love to talk to my boss and see me get you guys in or a steakhouse up in the North and it's a cute little hole in the wall place that's got great prices and great food. But the reason why I called Doan is I wanted to ask you what is up with Dallas? Like they played them for a game last night. Now I know they played a junior varsity team. I got it. It was great, but they still played really well. Why can't Dallas do this on the regular? What do you think it is?

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Speaker 2: Is it coaching?

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Speaker 11: What do you think it is?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 1: If I had that answer, I'd be employed by Jerry Jones. It's this is the way of life in the NFL. How many times, depending on who your team is, do you go what happened? I mean, look at the Chiefs, they're five and five, got the best quarterback in the NFL. You're going, what happened? Look at the Packers, Like, there's just these moments where you go, what is going on here?

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Speaker 2: Matteo? In New Mexico, Hey, Mattel, Hey, yeah, first time.

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Speaker 6: A long time or when a long time? I mean a really long time in Mexico with the five ball five is better known as the fible filthy and that's when we had breaking baths and I was calling you it just say you get go see him begin three times. It's been amazing. But on that note, I just heard something because the loyalty, So.

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Speaker 1: If you have got a bad connection there, Mateo, Yeah, I'm just siding on if we are going to go to Pitbull. I know the back room guys are like, uh, are you going to go to Pitbull? Because they know if I go to Pitbull then they got a better chance of getting in. So maybe I take one for the team. Yes, ma'am.

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Speaker 12: That's like when you got sick at the post Malone. Oh we all gote, we breezed right in.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we did post Malone with a private show at Fountain Blue, and all of a sudden it's like, hey, what time are we going to the show, and I go, I don't know if I can get you guys in.

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Speaker 2: You got dinner? I think, yeah.

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Speaker 12: I was like, oh, well when you get out of dinner, yeah, join us?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, Tom seeing Pitbull is the.

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Speaker 8: Leash you can do. If he does show up on our I say, what she did, a dog.

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Speaker 2: In a leash? Thank you? All right, thank you. Don't know if he needed that.

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Speaker 8: We definitely did not new that.

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Speaker 1: Once again, I'm kind of in a wounded state here, you know, with under the weather. I make it worse with comments they're no no because they're not really registering no.

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Speaker 6: Yes.

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Speaker 12: Anytime we go on a trip with you, I always feel like Turtle or Drama from Entourage. If Vinny Chase doesn't go, I can't go, so please go.

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Speaker 3: There's always the move though. Dan's gonna be right here. He's just getting ready.

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Speaker 2: That's okay, Well let me know when he gets here. And then they're like, we'll put.

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Speaker 8: It under his name. We need to need his ID to be able to relinquish the chick all.

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Speaker 1: Earlier this year, we surprised Paul Skeens with the Tory Lavello, the Arizona Diamondbacks manager. He was going to be managing the National League All Star team and he called in to when Paul Skeenes was on the show to surprise him and say you're going to be my starting pitcher. That was pretty cool, and Paul ended up being the Rookie of the Year. Of course, he's the Nation League Cy Young Winner. He won ten games for the Pirates and probably feels like twenty games, but you know, the stats are incredible. Also when you think about it, he was a catcher. He was a scrawnye kid. He ended up going to Air Force Academy, and he was also a great hitter, great hitter, and then all of a sudden kind of grew into his body and then started pitching, and then ended up leaving Air Force Academy, going to LSU, winning a national championship, then going to the Pirates, and the rest is histories. They like to say he's twenty three years of age and seems to have the world by the baseballs eight seven seven three DP show email address DPA Danpatrick dot com, twitter handle at dp show all schemes joining us on the program.

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Speaker 2: So where is the cy Young?

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Speaker 15: I haven't gotten it yet. Yeah, I think we get it into January.

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Speaker 2: And where are you going to put it?

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Speaker 15: It'll be on the probably on the wall right behind me, somewhere on the nice and high so you can see it in.

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Speaker 1: Zooms like this, it's an empty wall. There's where are all the awards Rookie of the Year. We don't have anything in there.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we're moving in. We haven't.

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Speaker 15: This is the last room that we've gotten too, so we have it's all in the room, we just haven't put it up yet.

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Speaker 2: How surprised were you that it was unanimous.

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Speaker 15: That was surprising. I mean, obviously that's a huge honor. Winning the cy Young is one thing, going unanimous is another. So I don't I don't really know what I was expecting. I don't, you know, know, if I was expecting to win it or not win it. But kind of just got to go in there with no expectations. So you're not, you know, upset or anything. But the unanimous was a nice touch.

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Speaker 1: Seems like your girlfriend was more excited for you, Livy kind of you know, smiling and kind of let you know, be happy here.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean that that's a nice thing about having her in you know, in the picture like that and you know, streams and that kind of thing, because she can kind of show my emotions for me.

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Speaker 7: So it's worked two years in a row.

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Speaker 1: Now, as far as like full time d H you have, you have to look at Otani and is there any part of you that says I could do maybe a portion of that. I could be a hitter and I could be a pitcher.

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Speaker 7: I mean the portion I could do is stand in the box. I couldn't.

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Speaker 1: Thinking humble. If I look at what you did when you were in college, you could hit.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that was also. I mean the Mountain West is great.

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Speaker 15: Like the Mountain West, and I mean even the SEC and then obviously the big leagues. They're very different things. So I'm good. I'm good with what I'm doing right now. I haven't picked up that in two years.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: But if your manager says, hey, why don't you go up there and pinship?

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Speaker 15: Oh yeah, I'm strapping it on like leats, batting gloves, elbow guards everything.

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Speaker 1: Can you be the backup catcher, like in an emergency situation?

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Speaker 2: Could you catch?

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Speaker 7: Yeah? I really believe that.

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Speaker 15: I mean because we play catch every day with pitchers, so we're used to their stuff and you know, and catching it. It's just they they I don't think they would ever put me back there.

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Speaker 1: Give me somebody that you'd like to catch, not on your staff, any pitcher, because catcher was your first position.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I roll this chatman.

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Speaker 15: I mean he was on my team my rookie year, and he would do some some cool stuff like, you know, throw a heater ninety one and then throw it one oh four on the next pitch then didn't really know why, and it was like a you know, a surprise every pitch for the catcher would be fun.

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Speaker 1: What's your highest recorded pitch, your fastest pitch?

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Speaker 7: I think one oh two?

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Speaker 2: Do you care?

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Speaker 1: Like if if I'm assessing how you're pitching, do I does the radar gun matter?

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Speaker 7: It does to me?

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Speaker 15: In uh, basically like how close I am to my max and the minimum? Like I want the average to be as close to those as possible. So like sitting one hundred it for me is better than hitting one or two, but sitting ninety seven, If that makes sense?

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Speaker 1: What pitch are you going to add in the off season?

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Speaker 15: I have no idea yet. I barely started throwing right now, so we'll see. Once I get on the mound and everything. I might start playing a houts and stuff. But no no plans for anything yet.

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Speaker 1: But you have to have an idea of somebody telling you something or you're seeing something that you know. Can you work that into your arsenal?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I think a lot of it so far has been, you know, like, hey, you should throw your your fastball here instead of here, you should throw it more in instead of away, that kind of thing, rather than like actually designing and engineering new pitches.

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Speaker 7: Just because it's just so early.

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Speaker 11: I don't.

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Speaker 15: I'm really just you know, working to get my body back to to you know, in season four right now, and then we can worry about the pitch shapes.

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Speaker 1: Later, talking to Paul's Skeins, the unanimous Cy Young Winner, I'm not sure if you got to fly fighter jets when you were in the Air Force? Can you can you even fit in the cockpit as big as you are?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I can barely fit.

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Speaker 15: You put the helmet on me and you know, I'm wearing boots and all that, the g suit, it's it's gonna be tight. But yeah, I went in I went into the Air Force Academy about three inches shorter than I am right now. So my you know, plans changed a little bit as time went on there.

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Speaker 1: Well, when you watch Top Gun, do your teammates say, hey, is that what it was like for you in the Air Force?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's pretty common.

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Speaker 15: I mean they're not they're not playing danger Zone when I walk into the room or anything like that.

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Speaker 2: They wouldn't.

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Speaker 1: They wouldn't do that to you, would they They would never do that to me.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to go.

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Speaker 1: Back and uh, like, is there any part of you that is not finished with the Air Force?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, it's funny because the more I've been out of there, it's, you know, right when you leave, you're so happy to be gone, just because it's so hard and so demanding.

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Speaker 7: And the longer I've.

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Speaker 15: Been, you know, away from there and away from those people, it's like, dang, I miss it. So I don't know about I mean, when I when I did my paperwork to leave, there was like a clause in there that like, I could come back and finish my degree as long as I finish it before I'm twenty seven. So I would have to do that in the next couple of years. So in terms of going back and being a cadet, that's that's not going to happen.

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Speaker 7: But they do have a.

00:25:36
Speaker 15: Baseball team they need coaches occasionally, so that's something I would be very excited to do. Living in Colorado, spring sounds nice.

00:25:45
Speaker 2: You don't get used to losing, but you lose a lot.

00:25:49
Speaker 1: Where you go from winning a national championship, now you know you're losing one hundred games. How does that affect you or how do you try not to let that affect you?

00:25:59
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's it's tough.

00:26:01
Speaker 15: It's a you know, a huge adjustment because you know, all I've done. The Air Force is the winningest organization in the world, and then I go to l s U and I win a national championship, and then obviously I haven't had two great years team wise in Pittsburgh.

00:26:17
Speaker 7: So it's been an adjustment.

00:26:19
Speaker 15: It's you know, it's tough to not show up to the field every day and be better sometimes, especially when it's you know, we're on a seven eight game skid. I think it, you know, I think it just comes down to being a professional. I've learned more and more how to do that and just be the you know, be the same person every day. I'm still learning how to do that. So but yeah, it's I mean, it is energizing to to think about what it could be if and if and when we do win. So that's the that's the thing that gets me out of bed.

00:26:57
Speaker 1: But that's how you get these stories that come out, because know, can you put up with this with your talent? And that's how that report comes out that if it was a true report or a rumor. But how do you deal with that that an anonymous player says that you hope to be traded to the Yankees?

00:27:14
Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean, I was frustrated for a couple hours and then and then you know, kind of got over it and talked to the media later that night. You know, it is what it is. There's stuff that's going to come out, you know, good and bad. It's you know, obviously it's it's not true. I think the hardest part of leading air Force for me was, you know, we had just won a conference championship, the first one in the school's history, and you know, didn't and if we built that and it felt like there was unfinished you know, work that needed to be done. So that's how it feels right now. We're you know, I won the we won the national championship or the conference championship at air Force.

00:28:04
Speaker 7: That's that's what is on the horizon for us. We just have to do it.

00:28:07
Speaker 15: And leaving before that would you know, leave a bad taste in my mouth because there wasn't you know, there was work to be done that we didn't do.

00:28:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think this has happened because there's no salary cap and we look at smaller markets good place. You know, Garrett Cole when he was with the Pirates, it's like, how long can these smaller market teams keep players.

00:28:26
Speaker 2: So you're just the latest.

00:28:28
Speaker 1: There'll be somebody that comes after you, and you know they'll be doing the same thing.

00:28:34
Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean I'm not the first person, not the first person. That's that's you know, been through this, done this, and I'm not I'm not the last, you know. It's just it all comes down to how you look at it, right, Like you can you can just be better at the world and pissed off, or you can you know, fight to to do what's right, make it right, you know, when those are kind of the the two paths, because you cannot, like the bar only moves one way, it only goes up, and for you know, that's the goal. Basically, it very easily could go down if you let it go down. So you just got to keep fighting to raise the bar, you know, for us in Pittsburgh.

00:29:24
Speaker 7: But for the next player wherever wherever that is.

00:29:28
Speaker 1: Do you have to make the bed? Does your girlfriend make you make the bed?

00:29:33
Speaker 7: Still got to make the bed.

00:29:34
Speaker 15: That's something that you can't really uh, you can't get that out of you once you've I probably made a thousand beds while I was at Air Force, and uh, actually more than that, probably a thousand only in basic training, So it's it's habits that are built inside you.

00:29:52
Speaker 1: But is the bouncing the quarter is that true?

00:29:56
Speaker 8: They don't.

00:29:56
Speaker 15: They don't do that anymore. It's not when I was there, they might they might have brought that back.

00:30:03
Speaker 7: Uh. It's funny.

00:30:04
Speaker 15: You'll get people that you know, don't want to make their bed every morning, and so they like duct tape it underneath so it's all tight like uh, because we got a shirt stays there to make sure your your shirt stays tucked in, and so they'll use those and tie it from one side to the other. So you'll learn those tricks from from being in it a little bit. But anyway, No, I don't.

00:30:26
Speaker 7: I don't think the quarter thing is is true anymore.

00:30:29
Speaker 1: Most famous person you've met.

00:30:35
Speaker 15: Probably right now, I mean Shane Gillis. He's the biggest person in the world.

00:30:41
Speaker 7: I don't know. It depends, you know, it depends what circle you're talking.

00:30:46
Speaker 6: Uh you.

00:30:49
Speaker 1: Shane Gillis is a good guy. We we we met him in Dublin and he was doing his stand up over there and.

00:30:55
Speaker 15: Yeah, he's it's refreshing to talk to him. He's he's down to earth, great dude. Obviously, you know, hilarious. Everything he does is you know, must watch TV. So it was it was cool to meet him. Just you know, I'm a I'm a comedy fan. I was looking forward to meeting him, and I was not disappointed. It was it was pretty cool.

00:31:17
Speaker 1: Then he go to Army, Yeah he did briefly, right.

00:31:23
Speaker 15: Yeah, he's a See when I got to LSU, the running joke was that I thought about serving for two years. He thought about serving for a little bit shorter than that. But we are both My air Force coach calls me to quitter, so we're both quitting.

00:31:38
Speaker 1: Congrats, enjoy the off season, and thanks again for joining us.

00:31:42
Speaker 7: Yeah, I appreciate it. Thank you for having me.

00:31:44
Speaker 1: Yep, Paul skeins, he is unanimous. Did you see his girlfriend was in the background walking by.

00:31:50
Speaker 2: A couple of times.

00:31:51
Speaker 4: I didn't see that, yep, yep.

00:31:53
Speaker 1: Now I was going to say, hey, why don't you get your girlfriend tome up here and join us, but she was going back and forth a couple of times.

00:32:01
Speaker 8: Yes, no yankee questions. They're just going to shut that out in the matter.

00:32:06
Speaker 1: All right, we asked the question. We got it out there. Yeah, he handled it, okay, Yeah, Pauli.

00:32:12
Speaker 3: It really is a tough situation for him as well. Like you'd love to be loyal to the Pirates and build something there, but you're also saying, I may sign up for a career that doesn't get me deep in the postseason. Ever, Like Tony Gwinn generations ago, loyalty can. It's impressive and it's respectable, but I don't know if it's the right move.

00:32:32
Speaker 1: I remember when Kevin Garnett was criticized because he didn't want to leave Minnesota to go win a championship and that he was loyal. Like, I think we got our compasses pointing the wrong direction here, Like we should give credit to somebody who is loyal. Is he going to win a championship in Minnesota? No? I think they went to the Western Conference finals one year, but then he went to Boston end up, you know, winning a championship.

00:32:59
Speaker 3: Yeah, Paulie, he wins a cy Young by going ten to ten with a one point nine to seven ERA. I did some research on it. If he had the average run support of like the top twenty pitchers in the National League last year, he probably would have been twenty four and five. Yeah, twenty four and five in this day and age twenty four wins is like, it's like forty all right.

00:33:23
Speaker 1: When we come back, we have our super Bowl picks. But if I give everybody a mulligan, who would you pick to win the Super Bowl? We'll have that for you. It's called stick or pick. Gotta have every segment has to have a name. Stick with your original pick or pick somebody different.

00:33:43
Speaker 2: Take a break back after this.

00:33:46
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. Rapid Radios the official Walkie Talkie, the Dan Patrick Show, push to talk service, national LTE coverage, no subscriptions ever, Get them before bad weather occurs. Visit Rapid Radios dot com up to sixty percent off and free shipping. It's a segment we like to call stick or pick. Stick with your original Super Bowl picks from early September, or pick another matchup, Todd. I'll start with you. You pick the Ravens over the Lions. Do you want to stick or pick?

00:34:30
Speaker 8: I am not sticking with either of those predictions. I Am now going with Rams over Bills. Getting rid of both of the teams that I had.

00:34:36
Speaker 1: All right, Marvin, you had the Lions beating the Bengals. Do you want to stick or pick? I'm gonna pick. Obviously the Bengals. They seem like they're in trouble. So I'm going to pick the Lions over the Bills.

00:34:53
Speaker 2: It's over the Bills. Paul, you had the Lions over the Bills. Are you going to stick or pick?

00:35:00
Speaker 3: Both are a little shakier than I like. I'm gonna stick. I am absolutely sticking on this Lions over Bills.

00:35:08
Speaker 1: I picked the Lions to beat the Chiefs. Am I gonna stick or pick? I'm gonna stick. I get a stick. Yes, Yeah, I'm gonna stick.

00:35:24
Speaker 4: There's more upside to sticking.

00:35:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I don't want to go.

00:35:28
Speaker 1: Let me go rams in Buffalo and then all of a sudden, the Lions and the Chiefs get to the Super Bowl.

00:35:33
Speaker 2: So that's my original prediction. I'll stay with that one.

00:35:36
Speaker 1: By the way, Seaton, who is in Vegas, he has Ravens over the Eagles.

00:35:41
Speaker 3: Yes, Polly, the Ravens are back in the mix, but do they feel threatening? You could be in contention for a playoff spot and a threatening team, but sometimes it's not both. I don't That pause tells me.

00:35:57
Speaker 2: I just don't get a good handle on them.

00:35:59
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's such an uphill climb that, you know, you start out with a couple of wins and just to get back up over five hundred, that takes a lot. You know, they won four in a row, like you you got to play It's almost like you're playing playoff football for about two months, and that's really really hard to sustain.

00:36:19
Speaker 12: Yes, but you've seen that. On the opposite end were teams like the Giants with Eli Manning. They were playing playoff like games to get into the playoffs, so they were already used to that winner, go home pressure.

00:36:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, but to try to do it for two months is really difficult. And I think the Giants, whether they were they nine and six that year nine and I think nine and seven and then they went to the Super Bowl. I think both those times they went to the Super Bowl, didn't they have just nine wins?

00:36:48
Speaker 12: You know they were wildcard teams. I'm not sure, Yeah the record, yeah, yeah, PAULI.

00:36:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were nine and seven in twenty eleven and won the Super Bowl with a wild card. They were ten and six in two thousand and seven and won the Super Bowl, but they slid in on the last two games of the year.

00:37:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, that's what happens.

00:37:05
Speaker 1: We see this a lot of times where team has a first round by and then they're facing a team that's been scratching a clawing to try to get into the postseason and they're already on their game.

00:37:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, Paul, it's.

00:37:17
Speaker 3: So wild that Eli Manning's Hall of Fame campaign, which he's going to get in, is based off two times where you slid into the playoffs.

00:37:25
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:37:26
Speaker 4: Wild.

00:37:27
Speaker 1: I saw this with our friend Cam Newton. I think he might have been on either his podcast or First Take, and he was saying that Kevin Stefanski the Browns, you know, basically is sabotaging should or Sanders, doesn't want him to be able to succeed, and you know, I guess to not give him first team reps. I mean, there's it's really mind blowing the number of people who are bothered by this that should Or Sanders somehow is not getting a chance. Now, when Chase Daniel was a career backup, and you know, Josh McCown, these are career backups. They said you know, recently we didn't get first team reps. The backup doesn't get first team reps? Like, why are we giving preferential treatment to Shador Sanders. I mean, Dylan Gabriel needs every one of those reps to be ready. Now you can say, what, well, Dylan Gabriel gets hurt. Okay, do the Rams do this with Matthew Stafford?

00:38:28
Speaker 2: Do they?

00:38:29
Speaker 1: I mean I don't know. I'm assuming they do not. Go you know, if matt gets hurt, we better have our backup getting some first team reps. You know, was Davis Mills getting first team reps when CJ. Stroud was still playing for the Texans. I'm gonna guess he didn't. Did anybody ask that question? Did anybody say Davis Mills didn't get a fair shake because he didn't get first team reps? The media has to be carried like did Mason Rudolph? Is he getting first team reps just in case Aaron Rodgers breaks his wrist?

00:39:03
Speaker 2: I mean, just be fair to the position.

00:39:06
Speaker 1: And guys, you your career backups are saying this, and look, Cam can have his opinion, but you're trying to tell me. Kevin Stefanski wants to tank this season, he's already on the hot seat. He's trying to save his job. You would think he would put the best player in there, and if it's Shaud or Sanders, put him in.

00:39:27
Speaker 10: Now.

00:39:27
Speaker 1: Do I think it's fair to assess that performance against the Ravens. No, because they were coming after him and they were hitting him on every play. But you know, these members of the media who are carrying water for Dion and Shador, you're going to put him in a position like Tim Tebow. Nobody's gonna want to have him on the roster because of all of this drama that goes along with him, even as a backup quarterback. I don't want that. If he can, great, but I don't want Shandor Sanders if he's going to be a backup quarterback. Because Kevin Stefanski hears these questions every single day because everybody is like, hey, put Shador in. Hey he didn't get first team reps. Like, yeah, we know that, you don't get first team reps. There's only so many reps in practice. Tim hassel Beck, career backup here with us yesterday said the same thing, you don't get first team reps.

00:40:28
Speaker 3: Yeah, PAULI Peyton Manning talked about this the other day about first team reps, and his former coach and offensive coordinator Tom Moore talked about is they gave Peyton Manning every first team rep unless Peyton wanted to get a step of water or something, because they would never plan on the backup being in and the star quarterbacks never want to give up a first team rep, and it's up to the quarterback as much as it is to the team. But they said it's never happens that way. Second string is don't get them.

00:40:57
Speaker 1: I'm just surprised that people are viewing this. Michael wilbon on pardon the interruption, talking about Shudor didn' get in first team reps. Okay, you're creating this story because Shadoor Sanders gets clicks, Dion gets clicks.

00:41:11
Speaker 2: Like that's it, and I just go.

00:41:14
Speaker 1: Be fair to the story, Be fair to the coach, be fair to the starting quarterback, be fair to the role of.

00:41:20
Speaker 2: The backup quarterback. That's all.

00:41:22
Speaker 10: Yeah.

00:41:22
Speaker 2: Pulling.

00:41:23
Speaker 3: Also, Dylan Gabriel this year has not been spectacular, but in six starts he's a sixty percent passer with seven touchdowns and only two picks. That's not great, but it sure isn't awful.

00:41:35
Speaker 4: It's not awful. Yeah, No one's talking about him playing decently.

00:41:40
Speaker 2: Everybody wants to.

00:41:42
Speaker 1: I hope Schador gets a chance to play, all right, and I'm hoping just so that can answer some questions.

00:41:51
Speaker 8: That's all.

00:41:52
Speaker 2: Give him a chance.

00:41:53
Speaker 1: Let's see if he can actually play the position. It's man, there are a lot of people. It ruins their day when he doesn't