#564: Tucker Wetmore on CMA Nerves + Why He Dropped Out of College to Pursue Music + A Complicated Family Story + Going From DoorDash Driver to a Nashville Pub Deal

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Speaker 1: I moved back home and then I remember shutting her down. I was like, Mom, I think I want to do this music thing, and she goes, I've been waiting for you to have this conversation with me.

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Speaker 2: Okay, We're going to hop into episode five sixty four with Tucker Wetmore, who had a number one with wind Up, Missing you. He's got his Brunette World tour kicking off in February. You get tickets at Tuckerwetmore dot com. I mean so much say about this guy, and I think we talked about a lot of it here. Great athlete in high school and even college, his story about moving to Nashville, just life now, and how twenty twenty five was a big year for him. So here we go. This is Tucker Wetmore here on the Bobby Cast. Tucker, good to see you, Good to see you. We were just talking about the holidays before we started this, and you asked me the question, how is Thanksgiving? And I was like, it's fine. It really was good.

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Speaker 3: That's good.

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Speaker 2: I don't want you to feel weird about that question. Is really give a very long pause. I've been injured, like and I'm gonna put my foot up so I want this is out of respect to a former athlete, even hurt worse than I've been. I tore my ankle and I just had surgery, and I've just gone from cart to boot. This is like, okay, two days in actual shoe.

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Speaker 3: How's it feeling.

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Speaker 2: Sucks?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I've been there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you've been there far worse than me, and I'm much older. But you had what did you do?

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Speaker 1: And you're like, so I've blown listening out twice and then uh, this ankle and.

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Speaker 3: Like spiral fractured all the way up to be I think it's called.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I still bother you when it's cold.

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Speaker 1: My knees kind of do its thing, but most of the time it's it's fun. They're so advanced with those surgeries now that it doesn't really bother me too much.

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Speaker 2: I went in and they took hitdab cartilage because I tore my cartilage, and they put it in, glued it together, and they were like, do not turn your ankle for the next five weeks it will rip again. And so Thanksgiving I was in a boot the whole time. That would have been my answer, but then I thought he doesn't care, and I was just like care. No. I I literally thought, yes, he's a nice guy. He asked a nice question. I should have just said it was great man, thanks for asking, and we could have moved on. But it said I got really awkward, and I had I had the existential moment of do I tell him it really sucked or not? Well, I'm sorry to hear that. No, it's it's all good food though.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well we're here, we're still breathing.

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Speaker 2: I just found out, Tucker. Thanks for asking. I just found out like six months ago. I'm allergic to dairy, which eliminates all good food.

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Speaker 3: That's really unfortunate. Yeah. Yeah, I got a bum ankle, can't drink.

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Speaker 2: Thanksgiving was good and thanks the food was great. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I love to hear it. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I had like the devil on the angel on the shoulders, going tell him the truth, no small talk, get out of there. What do you do for fun? Oh gosh, we were debating that before you came in.

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Speaker 3: Okay, what do you think?

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Speaker 2: It's one of those again where I'm gonna say I think you probably spend so much time on the road. It's probably hard to write because you're gone so much that you probably prioritize when you're home, hopefully getting to a rested place so you can write, and sometimes resting as in you, you probably want to go do things that let you decompress, like fish, you play ball at all? Can you.

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Speaker 3: A golf now?

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Speaker 2: Okay? Yeah, so what do you do? That would be what I would guess.

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Speaker 3: That was pretty spot on.

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Speaker 1: I mean nowadays, I don't really have time for too much, you know, free time. You know, everything I do is fun, you know, like being on the road and right and you know, putting the shows.

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Speaker 3: But you know, I like to fish. I like to be outside.

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Speaker 1: I feel like if I'm indoors too too long, I kind of go stir crazy. So I like to go touch grass more often than not. I like to golf, hang with my friends.

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Speaker 2: Do you ever go home?

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Speaker 3: Not often?

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Speaker 2: It's so far. That's what's tough for you. Like a lot of the people here, we all grew up somewhat around Nashville, a lot of us from the southeast now from Arkansas. So it's like we go back to Georgia or Arkansas or Florida or Oklahoma, you gotta go all the way frigging northwest.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a it's a long flat, but I get out there probably like once or twice a year. I was just there, you know, the Thomas rhtt tour. We did like a kind of like a hometown show in Ridgefield, Washington. That's probably like twenty five minutes away from my hometown. But I'll go home for I want to say, like five days around Christmas time. Just spend time with family, see some friends. But it's a it's it's a place that doesn't change, you know. So it's kind of I go home and it's a little depressing, but I get to see my people, so it's not at the same time. But I can only spend, you know, a certain amount of time being there.

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Speaker 2: What are the wet MoES known for?

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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, that's a great question.

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Speaker 2: Take your time. I struggle with Thanksgiving. Yeah, I asked you a really hard way.

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Speaker 1: That's a great question. I mean, it's gonna sound clichepe of just being kind. I guess my family's great. My mom's an angel, my grandma's known by everybody in the county. I don't know, just living life day by day like everybody else, is what we're known for.

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Speaker 2: What's your mom like, she's one of those people.

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Speaker 1: I feel like the Good Lord has filled her cup with so much love that she doesn't have any choice but to like spill it onto others. That's the kind of person she is, you know, always thinking about other people, very selfless, My number one fan, always always in my corner.

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Speaker 2: Was she super supportive of you when you wanted to start doing music.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she was the one that was like, absolutely, go do it.

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Speaker 2: Did you go to her with the hey, I'm thinking about doing this or what do you think about me doing this? I'm gonna do this in front of you?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 2: How did that go?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: So it was.

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Speaker 3: It was after I dropped out of college.

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Speaker 1: I was playing football in Montana and end up getting injured, like we just talked about. And then I moved back home and then started playing music again because I started playing music when I was like ten or eleven years old. I started on piano, guitar, trumpet, and I started writing a bunch after college. And then I remember sitting her down on a couch like we're sitting right now, and I was like, Mom, I think I want to do this music thing, and she goes, I've been waiting for you to have this conversation with me because you know, even back in the day, she would always push me like, hey, you kind of got something, so you should pursue that.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, but football, you know, I want to play ball.

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Speaker 1: And then it was kind of like a siur relief for I feel like, because she wanted she wanted me to do that, and you know, she saw something in me that I didn't really see at the time, and she.

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Speaker 3: Was very supportive. Helped me drive down from Washington.

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Speaker 1: It took us like three or four days, and I had COVID actually during that whole trip, so she did most of the driving. I think I did probably four hours of driving total. But she she helped me move and then you know, paid some bills when I first moved to town because I had no money, just a handful of songs and a dream.

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Speaker 2: Did she do music? Uh huh she was a musical at all.

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Speaker 1: Nope, then how even playing instruments, But like I have no idea, I guess Okay, So I grew up in the church. My grandpa is a pastor, and uh, you know, being around the church my entire life, literally every single day being the church, and uh, my grandma would would sing the hymns and I grew up in a Samoan family, so they're very I don't know if you ever hung out with like a group of Samoans.

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Speaker 2: I never have. It's it's a it's a bucketless item. I usually hang out one at a time with Smoan's never done. I've never done a group.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's a it's a fun time.

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Speaker 2: Are you Simoan a part Simoan?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 2: Are in your heart?

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Speaker 3: Though?

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Speaker 2: Like when you look in the mirror, do you see a Samoan guy?

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm definitely a mutt in a lot of ways.

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Speaker 3: I don't I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean I grew up a small culture my whole life, especially like in the summertime, always you know, doing cookouts and listening to reggae, and you know, all my aunties and uncles and you know, it's a huge family type thing. And but yeah, to answer your question, I mean, some Moons are very musical people and very loving people and giving people, and uh, you know, I just grew up around that, and it was it was kind of one of those those things where like I've said this before, but we'll be sitting in the in the living room after Sunday church, we just had early dinner and watching football, and somebody would start singing Amazing Grace and then the next thing, you know, the whole family is just harmonizing Amazing Grace in the living room, coming.

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Speaker 3: Kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: So I definitely grew up around that, and I think that's my That might be where it kind of stems from. But I definitely found my own love for music.

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Speaker 2: So your grandpa was Pastorage.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned your grandma. Do you call her grandma? Did Northwest? What do you call her grandma? Who do you call her grandma? Your mom? Is your dad not around or was he around?

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Speaker 3: No? Not really?

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Speaker 2: My dad wasn't wrong. I don't even know my dad.

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Speaker 1: No, I definitely do know my dad. Uh, it's a it's a complicated situation.

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Speaker 3: He wasn't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been there, really there. You know you guys have don't only talk, you do talk a little bit or.

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Speaker 3: No, I haven't talked to him a long time, long time.

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Speaker 2: The first time my dad reached back out to me was on Facebook once publicly. Well, I haven't last time I saw him, it's five I didn't see him again till I wrote my second book, and I was just telling people I was writing this book about face fears. You know all you know struggle, don't you know. And so the thing I was scared of most was going to meet my biological dad because he left. He just left, like straight up, nothing was wrong, just decided to leave my mom. My mom and my grandma raised me, and so my grandma adopted me for a long time. And so I went and I set up a thing and met him. Well, it was bizarre. It was the first time I'd ever seen somebody that looked like me. Really, I saw him again. I didn't know my dad. I was very angry. I still have crazy resentment toward him for leaving when I was five years old and leaving my mom in that place because she got pregnant at fifteen and that ain't an easy life. And so I remember seeing him in the parking lot and it looked like a because he was seventeen. Again, they were kids, and a little bit of my brain has to go. They were kids making kids decisions. And I saw him, dude, it was weird, that's wild. I'd never when this probably five or six years ago, oh well maybe seven at this point, but around in that old forty five, I was in my thirties.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy.

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Speaker 2: I was scared to death and it was so bizarre. And we went into this barbecue restaurant and I saw him walking by, and I'm telling you, I don't know if you look like your biological father, your mother, whomever. I don't have really like a family, Like my mom died drugs and alcohol. She died in your forties, and so I never really had a family. So I never was really accustomed to like having conversations with people that I was related to. And I was sitting at a table with him, going, this is the weirdest thing to sit with somebody that was a parent. Aside from all the resentment, all the anger, all everything that I had sitting across from him, I was able to kind of separate that way. This is the first time I've ever done this in my life. Because my mom and I, as much as she raised me and was in and out, she was an addict her whole life, so there was never a real, like true connection. But yeah, the whole dad thing's weird. When you said that, it kind of brought something up in me because I didn't meet my dad, and I made myself go freaking meet him and it's weird. We don't have a relationship now, but I don't hate him as much, Yeah, because I've come to understand and they'll talk now or No. He's in my sister's life a little bit, and I respect that she's much younger, so she didn't she wasn't a part of really being alive when he left. Got so all with her has been bonus. With me, there's a lot of he jumped and he left me and my mom and that was very difficult for all of us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean within reason, you know, It's just that's that's crazy, man.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean just when you said that, it reminded. But I remember. And my whole point of that was I wrote this whole book and it was all really pragmatic ways to success, and I thought, I am such a hypocrite because I've listed all these things that I hope people take from me and my life and my journey, and I hope they, you know, extract through my failures and a couple of successes. But I felt like such a hypocrite because the one thing I was so scared of I'd never done. And I texted a cousin got his number, texted him, was like, hey, your son, I'm going to be in town. I wasn't going to be in town, but I was just giving him a point to meet me. And then I met him, and it's really one of the most nervous days I've ever been in my whole life.

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Speaker 3: I can only imagine.

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Speaker 2: M h, it's crazy. When's when's the last time you've been really nervous?

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Speaker 1: Ce Mays for the for the that CMA performance, I it was.

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Speaker 3: It was weird, though it wasn't like.

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Speaker 2: How'll explain it, so like the days before.

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Speaker 1: I was nervous, and then the day of and I get kind of quiet when I'm nervous, and then the day of, you know, obviously we have like a bunch of interviews surrounding the CMA's a couple of days prior, and you know, I got through all those, and and then the day of. I remember waking up super nervous that morning, and then we kind of went through the rotation of like how the day was, you know, unfolding, and then we got to the awards and did the red carpet and stuff like that, and I wasn't really nervous.

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Speaker 2: Nervous and dress rehearsal or like like a.

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Speaker 1: Little bit, yeah, which was like the day before or two days before or something like that. And I remember it was it was time for my performance, and you know, most it was towards the end, so most of the night has passed by and most of the awards have been given out.

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Speaker 3: And.

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Speaker 1: I remember it was time for me to get on the stage. And I went back stage and changed and walked up on stage and you know that that screen that drops down and reveals the stage and you're sitting back there for like six minutes, and it's the longest six minutes of your life.

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Speaker 3: Dude. I was, you know, leg was shaken. I'm like, all right, breathe through it. I got this.

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Speaker 1: I've sang the song a million times and I wrote I wrote the thing, so I know it front to back most days.

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Speaker 3: And uh.

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Speaker 1: And then I remember, probably like a minute and a half before the thing goes up, I took a deep breath. I was like, you know, what, can I cuss on this? I was like, you know what, fuck this?

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Speaker 3: I got this.

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Speaker 1: I've sang this song a million times before, just another performance, And so that's kind of the way I treated it like right before, but do that those the two days beforehand?

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Speaker 3: I was I was pretty nervous a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Were you able to calm yourself down to actually like see people in the crowd?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It might have been a god thing, but I it was like a minute a minute and a half before that thing went up, I immediately snapped into this mindset of like, Okay, I'm exactly where my feet are right now, Like I'm in this moment. I know I'm going to see some people that I look up to, you know, musically or personally or whatever, in the crowd, because they're all right there like Stapleton, Uh, Cody Johnson, Luke Combs was sitting right there, you know, all these people that I've I've listened to for years. And uh, I remember looking at, you know, a couple of people in the crowd and then that kind of freaked me out mid performance and so I'd like look up at the at the ceiling a little bit.

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Speaker 3: And but it was it was fun, dude. It was.

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Speaker 1: It was one of those like nerve wracking but fun experiences.

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Speaker 2: Did you watch it back?

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Speaker 3: I did?

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Speaker 2: Did you like what you saw?

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Speaker 1: I was pretty happy with it, yeah, you know, and it seemed like a lot of other people were pretty happy with it, and uh, I'll.

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Speaker 2: Do it again, so you're probably gonna do it again a lot, I hope, So yeah, if they'll have me back. I just didn't know if you were so critical about yourself that there probably that there wasn't a way for you to enjoy watching it back.

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Speaker 1: I do get critical to myself often if I'm being honest, But then I think is like, it's already happened, I can't change it. Might as well just do better next time, you know, And if there's like a little note or a little misstep that I was oh, maybe I should have gone to this side of stage. And you know, it's it's very easy to easy to get down that rabbit hole. But you know, I kind of think of it as everything's a learning lesson and we're all just living life for the first time. So why I think about what you did yesterday when you got you know, hopefully tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Were you able to enjoy that show since or at least I will say pre year performance, or was it all like, oh boy, I got a performer really can't enjoy anything until I go on.

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Speaker 3: A little bit.

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Speaker 1: At first, I was like kind of antsy, kind of nervous, you know, my first time being nominated, my first big TV performance like that. And then you know, i'd probably say, like thirty minutes into the show, I'm like, no, this is cool, this is a blessing to be here. I'm just gonna enjoy, like be where my feet are and enjoy everything that's going on on stage and around me. And you know, I definitely found enjoyment in it, but obviously I'm human.

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Speaker 2: Is that a sports thing? Though? You be where your feet are? Like, how did you react the same way before you played a game, Like you would get nervous until right before or take the first couple of plays or yeah, like it feels like that's very parallel.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, one hundred percent, And it's it's a different stage, but it's it's the same thing. You know, a lot of people are counting on you to do your job on the field or in the diamond or you know, on the track or on the stage performing. It's there's definitely a lot of nerves that go into what I do. And honestly, I was talking to Thomas Read about this. Actually a couple of months ago when we were on tour and I asked.

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Speaker 3: Him that same question. I was like, do you ever get nervous? Still?

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Speaker 1: Like he's been doing it since what twenty twelve, twenty eleven, and without hesitation, he goes, oh, yeah, dude, every single night, I'd get so nervous. And I'm like why, he goes, Honestly, if you're not nervous, you don't care. And that's the way I look at it. And he's like, it's a blessing to feel nervous for something, because that's you doing something that you should be doing him, that you care about.

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Speaker 3: And it's like, damn, that's it's true.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you only get nervous about things that you value. I spent four years on American Idol, like working with the kids. They're not all kids, but a lot of them were kids and young adults, and they would get really nervous. Obviously not only they singing, but it's on television. You get a couple million people watching. They'd get extremely nervous. And the constant conversation I would have either on camera off was, man, there are only so many times in your life that you get to be nervous about something positive. So when that happens, like, be grateful for those nerves. You're not gonna make them go away. Yeah, that's the thing about nerves. You really can't force them to go away. The more you force them, the worst they are going to get. So have an understanding that it's a real treat to be able to be nervous for something positive, because in your life there's gonna be a lot of times or you're nervous about things that ain't so good. Somebody sick, somebody money. There's a lot of anxiety and anxiety and nerves kind of in that same beIN diagram. I like what Thomas Redd said, because yeah, you get to be nervous about something that is positive, like that just made you care about it.

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Speaker 1: It's the coolest thing in the world, you know. And I feel like if you kind of just would swap your brain to think that way.

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Speaker 3: It's just makes everything life easier.

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Speaker 1: But like for normal performances like concerts or something like that, I don't get as nervous anymore. Sometimes a little bit will hit me, but I get more excited, you know. I kind of treat it like a football game where I just kind of like hot myself up and you know, start doing jump with jacks backstage or whatever it is, and I kind of I kind of fire myself up, like I'm I'm getting ready to go, you know, play football game or whatever it is.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, it's just life. You know.

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Speaker 2: Early on, did you go too hard and like have to like catch your breath like you dude?

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Speaker 1: I still do it sometimes, Like I get I hide myself up so much that song two comes around, I'm like huffing and puffing, and uh, I've I've definitely started to learn how to like, you know, breathe on stage and you know, find my breath when when I don't have it. But that was definitely a huge problem, just because I would want to come out firing off and you know, like.

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Speaker 2: An ball energy, but uh, it's a marathon, it is.

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Speaker 3: It is one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: That's why you have the screens and the lasers do a lot of that big energy stuff that you come out and have. When you moved to Nashville, Like what'd you move down with?

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Speaker 3: What do you mean?

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Speaker 2: Like I don't know what was on the car, like, did you have a trailer? It was just small car stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was it was just my car. And then.

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Speaker 1: God bless my mom because she helped pay for like one of those pod things that you that you ship over. So we stacked that full of like my bed, a couple of couches.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't big.

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Speaker 1: It was literally there was like not a square inch left. But we fit all of my stuff in this pod thing, and then we shipped it over and then packed my car with a couple of.

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Speaker 3: Things, and then we just hit the road. Had you been here before once before? It was it was the month.

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Speaker 2: Before, so you weren't coming like for years. No, so you've been one time and you're like, screw it, I'm moving down. Yeah, So what was the catalyst then that made you move?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 2: What was the thing?

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Speaker 3: So that's why we visited.

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Speaker 1: After I had that talk with my mom where I was like I want to chase this music thing, she was like, all right, where do you want to go? I was like, well, I heard Austin's got some music and obviously got music City down to Tennessee. And she was like, well, let's go, let's go visit these things. So I went to Austin by myself. I knew a friend that I stayed with in Dallas, and we checked out Austin. Wasn't a huge fan of it. It was kind of in the middle of COVID, so it was like super dirty and after all those riots and stuff, So wasn't a huge fan of it. Then a couple of weeks later, me and my mom flew down to Nashville just to check it out to see if I wanted to move, try to find an apartment kind of thing. And for the first days, first two days we were here.

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Speaker 3: I remember looking at it. I was like, Mom, I don't know. I don't know about this.

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Speaker 1: I I didn't get that like immediate old this is the spot, you know, this is where I need to be. And then because we're downtown, we checked out Broadway. We checked out like Midtown and you know, you know all that stuff, and it was it was a lot, and you know, I come from a super small town. The biggest building we got is the Poker Pietz that sells pizza and it's half pizza, half far you know, that's the tallest building in my town. And you know, so I wasn't I wasn't. He was on the huge, like the big city kind of lifestyle. And I was like, Mom, let's go to the outskirts of Nashville. Let's go find some then that feels like home. Let's see if there's a lake around here. Go Grable by teat I'm lake.

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Speaker 3: And so we found Old.

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Speaker 1: Hickory and uh, gosh, what's that place called the Rudder? The Rudder on Old Hickris on the north side, and uh. We ended up driving out there. We had lunch there and immediately and no opportunities were like before moving in or before visiting Nashville. My mom was like, we're not just we're not going to try to, you know, force anything, push anything, and like, if opportunities arise, then then we'll know that's that.

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Speaker 3: This is the right decision. I was like, I'm completely in that boat. And so we went to the Rudder. We sit down and start eating.

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Speaker 1: Immediately the manager of the whole place comes up just starts talking to us. He goes, what are you guys doing where you go from?

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Speaker 3: YadA YadA? And I'm like, oh, we're we're just visiting.

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Speaker 1: See if we want to move to Nashville from Washington and he goes, Oh, that's amazing.

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Speaker 3: You do music.

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Speaker 1: I was like, I'm trying. I got a handful of songs and a dream. And then he was like, dude, I got.

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Speaker 3: The stage right here.

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Speaker 1: If you ever want to play it on like the weekends during the summer, you can play it this the outside stage. And then he was like, dude, or honestly, if you need a job, you got a job here anytime. And this guy doesn't know me.

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Speaker 2: You just met him.

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Speaker 3: I just met him.

00:24:17
Speaker 2: He walked up at the table.

00:24:18
Speaker 1: Five minutes before this, and he was like, if you need a job, you got a job on the spot. Just let me know when you're in town. I was like, mom, I think, I think I got this feeling now. I got this feeling where like if if something doesn't work out, something else is going to work out. And she's like all right, And so that was kind of like that's where it swaps. And then I got a I didn't ever take up take him up on the opportunity when I moved to town, but it was it was one of those things that I could feel into my soul that it was the right decision.

00:24:49
Speaker 2: From that day forward, does that guy know at all that his brief interaction with you change the course of your life.

00:24:57
Speaker 3: Probably not.

00:24:57
Speaker 1: I mean maybe if he watches this now, but no, I don't think so. I haven't seen him since.

00:25:03
Speaker 2: What if he's really not a real person and it was an angel? Do you ever think about that?

00:25:07
Speaker 3: I think about that very often.

00:25:08
Speaker 2: AX, Like, maybe you go back and you're like, hey, is oh Sean here at Rudders They're like, Sean, he died in nineteen.

00:25:13
Speaker 3: Fifty six, exactly. Yeah, he's the founder of.

00:25:17
Speaker 2: This place, mister Rudder. You mean he hasn't been around me forty years. And you're like, no, no, no, he wore like a bow tie, dark hair, and they show you a picture and you're like, oh my god, dude, I think of as an angel.

00:25:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, having like weird encounters with people and just thinking like, oh, maybe that was God trying to tell me something or sending someone to tell me. So I think about it almost every day.

00:25:40
Speaker 2: That's a great story. You moved down How long until you get any sort of money coming in at all because of music?

00:25:50
Speaker 3: Last year?

00:25:52
Speaker 2: So how long were you here?

00:25:53
Speaker 3: Two years ago?

00:25:55
Speaker 1: I sign a publishing deal in twenty twenty two, So did you move in twenty.

00:26:00
Speaker 3: I'm moving twenty.

00:26:01
Speaker 2: So what'd you do for two years? How'd you pay rent?

00:26:04
Speaker 3: I door dashed.

00:26:05
Speaker 1: Really back when FGL, that bar downtown was FGL. I worked there for probably a week and a half, serving food and I hated it, so I quit. Then I would door dash and I was living on the skin of my teeth for a while there. Like peanut butter spoon for dinner kind of thing, and I'd buy these these packs of like Hamburger patties and I'll just cook them up and throw an egg on it, and I'd.

00:26:35
Speaker 3: Kind of like be my dinner.

00:26:37
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, my my mom helped me a lot.

00:26:40
Speaker 1: My mom and her boyfriend, they definitely helped pay some bills a lot of the time.

00:26:44
Speaker 2: And is there an appreciation now extra because of the struggle before?

00:26:50
Speaker 3: You know? It's just I feel like.

00:26:55
Speaker 1: Growing up with a silver spoon is a blessing in its own way. But I feel like growing up with the wooden one teaches you a lot more about how life actually is and how it can be. You know, if you don't try to work for something, and you know, I feel like it's, uh, it's very important to know what bottom feels like, especially when you get to the top.

00:27:23
Speaker 3: Putting.

00:27:25
Speaker 1: Being a good role model for the people that want to do something anything in life.

00:27:30
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, you earned perspective.

00:27:33
Speaker 3: Yep.

00:27:33
Speaker 2: And I feel like, yeah, no perspective has ever wanted because perspective is hard to get. You never want to have to go through something that gives you perspective because that's uncomfortable. But I'm very grateful at the respective that I have never liked it while it was happening, but I have such an understanding now of other people and what they're going through because I've also gone through it, which allows me to go, oh, hey, let me help you here, or let me give you some advice to help you here, or you're gonna figure this out yourself. But it's a weapon. Getting through stuff is a literal weapon. You don't want to have to acquire the weapon. You don't like it while it's happening, but once you have it, it's awesome.

00:28:06
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:28:07
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the the tailor's oldest time pressure makes diamonds. You know, it's it's very cliche, but it's it's a true thing.

00:28:15
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you this question. I want one hundred percent honesty this is based off something you just said. One hundred percent honesty. Raise your right hand. I Tucker promised to be honest, I tuck her what more, promised to be honest. Did you ever steal a fry or any food when you were delivering door dash?

00:28:30
Speaker 3: No, not a single time.

00:28:33
Speaker 2: No, you are the most honorable door dash guy in the history of door dash.

00:28:37
Speaker 3: I promise you, not a nothing, not even thought about it.

00:28:40
Speaker 2: One actually dumped out, he left it out and then ate it.

00:28:43
Speaker 3: Uh huh, not a single time.

00:28:45
Speaker 2: Honorable Tucker weapon, I try, I try. Wow.

00:28:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fanzy to think about, though.

00:28:51
Speaker 2: I feel like, shake the bag and let some fall. I used to wait tables. I waited tables a lot, and so yeah, that would happened.

00:29:00
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so funny.

00:29:02
Speaker 2: Or for me it was after they were done as well, if the roles had him in touch, or if something had him in touch, I would say it needed.

00:29:12
Speaker 3: Gotta do what you gotta do. I guess that's right.

00:29:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I'm proud of you, Like it didn't need a single fry and you raise your right hands and you can't lie about.

00:29:19
Speaker 3: That, that's right.

00:29:20
Speaker 2: How'd you get your publishing deal? What was it that got you the deal. Was it a single song or was it a body of work with a few songs?

00:29:26
Speaker 3: No, I guess okay, So I was writing a bunch.

00:29:31
Speaker 1: So when I moved to town in twenty twenty, I didn't know anybody. I didn't know not a single person. I didn't know anything about anything about the music industry or you know, at all. And so I was I would sit there in my apartment and kind of put like covers out on TikTok and Instagram, and you know, I wasn't doing like that influencer thing, but I was just posting my songs online. And then this girl named Rikaile Marshall. She's got a publishing company named Backblocks, and she saw some stuff online and then she's like, hey, let's take a meeting. You know, I saw I saw a couple songs that you've written, and I kind of see something, so let's take a meeting. And then took a meeting, and then probably eight months later, I ended up signing a publishing duale. And then I had another offer from twelve six and I ended up going with Backblocks, and then I would I was writing a little bit, and then we brought some my manager now Autumn legend to the team, and then I feel like once she joined the team, I was I was starting to write every single day, and you know, it kind of started moving a lot then and then I teased some stuff. We got to the point where I was like, all right, let's start teasing some stuff as you know, try to build the artist thing. And that's when I teased wanted a whiskey and then end up missing. It happened right after that, and it was kind of to the moon from there.

00:31:03
Speaker 2: Was co writing weird for you at first.

00:31:05
Speaker 1: Very very especially when you first start, because it's kind of like speed didding.

00:31:10
Speaker 2: You.

00:31:10
Speaker 1: You're walking into a room with these people that you know, some of them have twenty five number ones, some of them have you know, they just got their first one, so they're running high off of that, and you know, it's just and then you're just I'm just me. I ain't got nothing. Nobody knows who I am. I just like to write songs and that's all I know. Well, and it's you know, you're meeting new people every single day. Sometimes you get paired up with whatever, and uh, but I wasn't really accustomed to that because I was just writing by myself for so long, you know, years before that, and it took me a little bit of time to kind of really open up and share my thoughts with other people.

00:31:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, the vulnerability part is really strange, Yeah, because it's not like a licensed therapist. No, it's a freaking dude. Yeah, and you're like, glet me to put my heart out vulnerable Kansas. Yeah, like you moved here like two years before me. You got it. That's weird, that's weird.

00:32:02
Speaker 3: It was very weird.

00:32:03
Speaker 1: But you know, I knew how, I know how important it is, you know, to be part of the songwriting community, and so I kind of.

00:32:13
Speaker 3: I knew if I didn't learn quick how to do it, then the opportunity will pass me up.

00:32:17
Speaker 1: So I just kind of, you know, sometimes two songs a day and just like grinding for years.

00:32:24
Speaker 4: The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the Bobby Cast.

00:32:38
Speaker 2: What was the first song that you wrote here in town? And it doesn't even have to have made an album, but that you thought, oh, I'm getting better, like this is actually good and I'm super proud of it. And do you remember that feeling like actually writing one where you feel like you've leveled up.

00:32:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to think. I feel like I'm really hard to satisfyify myself. You know, it's really hard to like satisfy me for you know, satisfy me. And uh, you know, I'm always just trying to write better and you know, write a better song. But there was a moment in twenty four twenty three. No, it was twenty three where I wrote wind and Whiskey and then wind Up Missing You in.

00:33:29
Speaker 3: The same week and I d on it. Yeah, And it was like the week after my birthday and.

00:33:38
Speaker 1: I just turned twenty four or something like that. And on that Monday, I wrote wind and a Whiskey and then me and my buddy's like, hey, this is this kind of fire, this is this feels good. And then that Thursday or Friday, I walked into a room and I wrote wind Up Missing You. And I think after that week, especially when I started teasing both of them, I was like, Okay, I see some growth. I see some like.

00:34:00
Speaker 3: Some vision on.

00:34:03
Speaker 1: Sound or you know, style or whatever it is that I was that was spending years on chasing. And yeah, I'd say that week was very pivotal for my mindset.

00:34:13
Speaker 2: When you wrote proving me right. How'd you feel about that? Did you think it'd be something? Or do you write so much at times you don't know and later on you discovered to be something or did somebody else tell you it's going to be something.

00:34:27
Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like it.

00:34:29
Speaker 1: The conversation of if it's something is still pretty early, you know, because it came out Friday, so just a couple of days ago ago.

00:34:37
Speaker 2: But but it has to be something of all this stuff that you're writing that you've identified that as the something of what you have coming out, like that's a that's a single. Yeah, so it's got to be something to you.

00:34:48
Speaker 3: No, one hundred percent.

00:34:49
Speaker 1: No, it definitely felt to answer your question, it definitely felt.

00:34:53
Speaker 3: Really good in the room.

00:34:54
Speaker 1: And you know, I out of vision for how I wanted the song to go and what I wanted to say within the song. And I remember Jesse Joe I voice memoed her right before I walked on stage.

00:35:11
Speaker 3: I think it was in like Washington or I was somewhere.

00:35:16
Speaker 1: I was about to walk on stage, and I was doing my vocal warm ups and then I started like humming this this tune and then started singing the chorus of proving me right, and I was like, I don't know what this is, but I'm about to hop on stage. I didn't want to forget it, and then I just immediately sent it to her and no, I want to say a couple of months later we ended up writing the song me her, uh, Chris Tompkins and you know a couple other people, and.

00:35:44
Speaker 2: Luke laired to forgetting Luke claired, Yeah, he's only got like, yeah, thirty five, forty numbers.

00:35:49
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Luke.

00:35:51
Speaker 2: I got I got anybody else I went to, is that anything? But Luke?

00:35:54
Speaker 3: I love Luke great dude.

00:35:55
Speaker 1: And that was my first time working with him too, so it was it was cool to get that, you.

00:35:59
Speaker 3: Know, that song out of that.

00:36:00
Speaker 2: That guy has such a history of writing for well all the number ones, but oh you like doing hip hop style? Yeah, like he's dude.

00:36:08
Speaker 1: It was it was like watching a machine watching him do do his thing, because he was tracking the whole the whole thing, and then he would turn around and say like a badass line and we're like, yeah, that's that's right, and uh so he'd write it down and he's yeah, he's definitely a machine. He's one of my favorite. He's becoming one of my favorite people that i've you know, that I work with, and he's awesome.

00:36:29
Speaker 2: What's the biggest fish I ever caught?

00:36:31
Speaker 3: It's a good quotion.

00:36:36
Speaker 2: I don't think deep sea counts for the record. Growing up with lakes, Okay, when people are like, well I caught I got an albacorp French marlin, I'm like, dude, that ain't the same. Like we're driver fishing, we're hybrid fishing. I mean almost catfish don't count because they're bottom dwellers and you can you can really sit there, you can do you can cheat to catch big catfish.

00:36:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.

00:36:57
Speaker 1: Biggest fish I ever caught? I think it was like a six or seven foot sturgeon off the Columbia River. Wow.

00:37:04
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean to.

00:37:05
Speaker 2: Catch that because most of the time, if we catch like gar you don't mean to catch them.

00:37:09
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, Me and my buddies would go sturgeon fishers. So to eat the sturgeon, there's a very small window where you can keep them, and it has to be between whatever size.

00:37:20
Speaker 3: I can't tell you.

00:37:23
Speaker 1: I don't think it was in the window of being able to keep them. It's like one day out of the year, one or two days out of the year.

00:37:28
Speaker 2: If that I fund like bad eating.

00:37:30
Speaker 1: No, it's it's some of the best meat in the world. It's it's amazing. It's a white meat tastes great. I'm sure it's it's great.

00:37:38
Speaker 2: You should try. If you ever go to a place and there's people when they say, man, eat perch, I'm like, per terrible. There ain't no meat there.

00:37:43
Speaker 3: I wouldn't.

00:37:44
Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm hungry enough, I would, but I wouldn't go out seeking perch meat. You know, but surgeon fishing is fun. I saw my buddy one time. So what we would do would go down to what.

00:37:55
Speaker 2: Do you think that way you put on scale?

00:37:59
Speaker 3: No, we didn't guess thirty five pounds.

00:38:06
Speaker 2: What test lines you have on your on your run reel?

00:38:08
Speaker 4: Do you know?

00:38:09
Speaker 3: Ah?

00:38:10
Speaker 1: Fifteen twenty oh, so you had to be a bit delicate with it then, Yeah, I remember, I remember a test line wasn't wasn't too strong?

00:38:20
Speaker 2: Is screaming?

00:38:21
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, dude, you sit there and fight those fish are hours.

00:38:24
Speaker 2: You have to wear anything bigger out that's the way. Obviously you know this, But anybody watching or listening, like we used to striper fish a lot, yeah, and strippers were big. I watched my mom catch a forty pounder once. Yeah, I have caught My stepdad was a stripper guy for a while. So we'd go out and catch shad and then we'd just fish with striper and stripper were the biggest. But hybrids, the striper white bass mix, they were the best fighters, okay. And if we'd have we'd have you know, twenty five pound tests or something on and you have some of the fights harder than that. You got to wear it down. You can't just reel it in, can't pop your line. Yeah, when you got the sturgeon in, we're like, oh my god, thinks wait a minute, and we thought it.

00:39:07
Speaker 1: I mean, that's so what me and my buddies would do. We'd go down to the bank of the Columbia River. It was called the Clamor of Marina, and we'd go down there, cooler lawn chairs, sometimes a fire right there on the beach, and we'd cast out, let it sit, put a put it in a put it in a wrod holder, and put a bell on.

00:39:29
Speaker 2: It and just sit there and drink and then then it sit on the bottom. We're having a bobber.

00:39:34
Speaker 3: No, it had sit on the bottom yep. And then yeah, we'd just sit there and wait and drink and if we don't catch anything, we caught a buzz.

00:39:43
Speaker 2: You still exactly.

00:39:46
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:39:47
Speaker 2: What was your greatest athletic performance in high school or college? Like single game?

00:39:55
Speaker 3: That's a good question. Football, I'd say, I mean, there's a couple of.

00:40:03
Speaker 1: Games my senior year, I score like four touchdowns in the first half, and then that I have tolet me out. Yeah, I feel like I would have brought broken a couple more records if I was able to stay in the game longer. I'd say my favorite performance, Uh, probably state championship game my senior year. I end up scoring two or three touchdowns with a pick six.

00:40:30
Speaker 2: And you're playing both ways?

00:40:32
Speaker 3: Yeah m hm.

00:40:33
Speaker 2: So offensively you.

00:40:34
Speaker 1: Played receiver and then defense, I was corner sometimes strong safety.

00:40:39
Speaker 2: Were they just getting you the ball? Was it? We got to just get Tucker of the ball because he's the guy pretty much, so it didn't matter. You're running screens, you're slants, but you're also did you have to have decent speed?

00:40:49
Speaker 3: I was all right, like a four four seven.

00:40:51
Speaker 2: Now that's not all right, that's flying. Yeah, that's flying all right.

00:40:56
Speaker 3: And then defensively those are my prime though I can't do that no more.

00:40:59
Speaker 2: But you've had like seventeen surgeries in the last week. It sounds like, yeah, so you played football, you played, you're in track. You mentioned track.

00:41:06
Speaker 3: You track?

00:41:07
Speaker 2: Yep, you play baseball. Let me guess you played shortstop and pitched.

00:41:11
Speaker 1: If I'm just getting centerfield centerfield and UH pitched a.

00:41:16
Speaker 3: Little bit too.

00:41:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sounds about right. At tracks. Yeah, that's where they put the athletes shortstop, center field and then they always pitch. Did you play baseball college? Did you want to No? Just football?

00:41:28
Speaker 3: Just football?

00:41:29
Speaker 2: What'd you did you playing in college?

00:41:31
Speaker 3: I was a receiver.

00:41:31
Speaker 1: I actually got drafted or not drafted. What recruited to UH? To play strong safety is the original thing? And I are to already signed my papers, like I'm going here to play strong safety for Montana Tech University was the thing. And then I want to say, a couple months before I ended up moving to nash or UH Montana head coach his name is Chuck Morrell. At the time he calls me, he goes, hey, man, I hope you're doing good. We've been and it was like a super serious dude, like borderline scary series. And he goes, we were looking at your film a lot the past week, and how would you feel about playing receiver for us? And I immediately sighed relief. You know, I wanted to play offense and I wanted to be a receiver. And I was like, thanks, coach, I would love to.

00:42:21
Speaker 3: He goes, you got it. Seeing a few sung up, I was like, all right, and so, uh, you know, I ended up playing receiver for them.

00:42:28
Speaker 2: And when you got to to start playing college ball, did you notice the speed was a lot faster.

00:42:33
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:42:34
Speaker 2: Did you take to it pretty quick? Yeah, I'd say, so you didn't get there and get so intimidated.

00:42:40
Speaker 3: Not really.

00:42:40
Speaker 1: I mean my high school, our high school team was very like open offense, like very fast paced, no huddles a lot of the time unless we're up by quite a bit, and then we'd huddle up and kind of kill time. But we'd come out the gate, no huddle, you know, fade post screen.

00:43:01
Speaker 4: You know.

00:43:02
Speaker 1: I so whatever it is, you know, it's just so it's kind of not too crazy for transition. But the the things that go in at surrounding the year, you know.

00:43:13
Speaker 3: Is a lot more.

00:43:13
Speaker 1: You know, you're four am workouts in the winter, six pm film for four days a week. You know, it's like there's a lot that it's a full time job. So that I think that was like the biggest thing that I had accustomed to do.

00:43:29
Speaker 2: That parallel with music, What are people not seeing that actually is extremely valuable in what you do.

00:43:39
Speaker 3: A lot?

00:43:43
Speaker 1: I'd say health is one thing, you know, keeping up on my health, making sure I'm I'm stage ready.

00:43:50
Speaker 3: You know, eating good.

00:43:52
Speaker 2: You can't get sick, Yeah, can't get sick. That's your money, that's your band's money.

00:43:56
Speaker 1: Exactly, that's everybody, you know, just trying to just trying to stay on top of my health and make sure I'm healthy, especially in the thick of touring, and you know, songwriting, people don't really understand how much we really do.

00:44:09
Speaker 3: Right and then like prep for.

00:44:14
Speaker 1: A tour, you know, you got you got rehearsals and you know you'll have two weeks straight of just rehearsals before a tour. Just make sure everything's you know, tie as a button, and we know what to do if this happens or this happens, and there's.

00:44:27
Speaker 3: A lot that goes into it.

00:44:28
Speaker 1: You know or like interviews, and you know, sometimes I'll fly out to New York or LA for a couple of days and just do press.

00:44:36
Speaker 3: For days straight.

00:44:39
Speaker 2: And do you ever do the thing in press where you do so many in a row you forget if you've already told that story in this interview. Yeah, that's happened to me in this in this conversation, probably twice. Now, what did you think you're already told or didn't tell.

00:44:54
Speaker 1: The story about me moving here? I feel like I just, you know, told that so much that it's kind of just repetition.

00:45:00
Speaker 2: You brought that up. I did. I did to be fair, That's my fault. Yeah, that's on you because I didn't say you said you know your mom brought you down? Yeah, I followed you.

00:45:09
Speaker 3: Yeah. Halfway through, I was like, I've told this story so many times. He doesn't want to hear this, But that's just part of it.

00:45:16
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00:45:31
Speaker 2: What's been the best part about the year, because you really popped off this year, like it's been crazy, And I wonder sometimes if people understand what's happening to them while it's happening. Do you understand what's happened to you in the last year or are you just so in it that you only partially.

00:45:45
Speaker 1: Do They're I'm starting to know now that I got some time off, and I kind of I can breathe for the first time in ten months. But there was a huge portion of this year where it's like I wake up, I work out, play the show, write a song, whatever it is that I'm doing throughout the day, and it's just like all these all these crazy things would happen around me, and I'm just like, all right, what's next, what's next, What's next, and kind of just focusing on the task at hand instead of being able to like celebrate what I just did or what what we just accomplished. But now that I got some time off, and I'm really, like, like last night, I was I was laying in bed just thinking about how crazy this year has been and how crazy my life is now compared to a year ago or two years ago even, and you know, it's just it's wild being able to sit there and think about, damn, this is really really cool, and it's everything everything I've ever wanted.

00:46:36
Speaker 2: I got three questions left. Did you buy a house yet?

00:46:39
Speaker 3: I did. That's big, It's amazing, amazing.

00:46:44
Speaker 2: I never I.

00:46:46
Speaker 1: Never would have thought it would have happened this quick where I can, like, you know, by my buy my first piece of property and you know, take care of my family the way I am, and you know all the blessings that come with it that you know make my heart happy in full and just having my own place.

00:47:01
Speaker 3: To call mine.

00:47:02
Speaker 2: You know, if you learn how expensive furniture is.

00:47:06
Speaker 3: It came furnished. Oh it came furnished, all right.

00:47:09
Speaker 2: Flex Yeah, fully furnished house. What more gets his house is furnited?

00:47:15
Speaker 3: Not even know the guy? His name is Chuck.

00:47:17
Speaker 2: He classic Chuck hooking up with Chuck?

00:47:20
Speaker 3: Does he goes? I just I'm trying to get rid of the property. You can keep all the furniture.

00:47:23
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, perfect, Well yeah, well you'll learn then. Yeah, furniture sucks to buy. Yeah, because you're having an adult a little bit now, you know, you're not having to go full adult mode yet, but you're Furniture sucked. Refrigerators suck, car tires suck. There are purchases they just aren't fun to make because you feel like You're spending all this money on things you don't really use except use them all the time. They're just not dynamic to you.

00:47:44
Speaker 3: You just don't think about.

00:47:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, first time I bought a refrigerator was like, I'll just take one of those little ones, and then you realize you actually need a real life adult those like dormy. I know that's what I'm like. I'm I live this small place with my whole life, all right. Two questions left the Brunette World Tour. Do you get nervous about tickets and venue selling when it's your show.

00:48:06
Speaker 3: A little bit?

00:48:09
Speaker 1: You know, especially like the moments before it goes live or the pre sale goes live. I definitely bother my team more than they would want me to, like, Hey, how do we feel, how are we looking? Should we do this venue instead of this venue?

00:48:22
Speaker 3: Kind of thing?

00:48:22
Speaker 1: And I definitely did a lot of that, But then they're like, no, just trust process, trust us. And it went live and what would you say? Eighty five percent of it sold out pretty much the first two.

00:48:34
Speaker 2: Days sold out. Oh man, that's so lucky.

00:48:36
Speaker 1: And now it's sitting at like ninety seven percent sold out. And by lucky I mean fortunate for you. You've earned it.

00:48:42
Speaker 2: God dang, you don't have to stress out about that.

00:48:44
Speaker 3: I know, very very blessed.

00:48:46
Speaker 1: It's sold out to the point where we had one night in London. Now we had to move to three in the same venue, and the first two sold out, the second ones pretty.

00:48:57
Speaker 3: Much like some of the only tickets left.

00:48:59
Speaker 2: Oh all three hold up, never mind, haang, flex got furniture and all sold out. This is just you're comfortable now and now I just don't want this out.

00:49:05
Speaker 3: There is how my life rocks? Oh gosh, no, not even uh but no, I'm just it's very blessed. And I don't know. That's That's the only way I can explain it. It's just it's it's not me. I'm just.

00:49:19
Speaker 1: You know, I'm I'm not the hand. I'm just the vessel kind of thing. It's it's amazing, all right.

00:49:25
Speaker 2: Final question, what question do you get asked in most of the interviews that you know is going to come up every single time? And you're like, I know it's going to come up, so let's just go ahead and do it.

00:49:36
Speaker 3: How'd you get here?

00:49:37
Speaker 1: You know, when you move to Nashville kind of thing? And I kind of fell into that. But uh, that's definitely when I get often.

00:49:44
Speaker 2: Do Youah, it's just a bad But do you have a quick version of it that you tell if you're just not not feeling good?

00:49:49
Speaker 3: The one I told earlier? Yeah, yeah, I try to keep it short.

00:49:54
Speaker 1: It's just, uh, it's just a story I've had to tell for like three plus years now, ever since I started doing interviews like this.

00:49:59
Speaker 3: What It's not that I get irritated with it. It's just it feels like a repetition.

00:50:06
Speaker 2: Have you told the pod part of it? Ever?

00:50:07
Speaker 3: What do you mean? No, I don't actually see.

00:50:10
Speaker 2: You give me the nuggets that you're tired of giving, and I take and I extract new information from the old nuggets. I'm basically the recycle center. You bring me your old trap, and I turned it into good stuff. I love it. That's amazing, all right, Good to see it, Tucker. Congratulations on the next number one, the last number one? Three, two? One? Great song? Why'd you pick that one? Because you're such a good writer?

00:50:32
Speaker 3: Think you?

00:50:32
Speaker 2: And that was a cut? An outside cut? What about that song though? Made you go dang. I've written a bunch of great songs, but I think I'm gonna cut that one.

00:50:42
Speaker 3: It felt the most radio hisk at the time to me in a sense, and.

00:50:51
Speaker 1: I wanted to follow up, wind up with something that kind of felt like it was in the same vein, just to kind of lay the foundation in a sense. But I don't know, it just felt right. It was just a feeling that I hadn't then my team had the same feeling.

00:51:07
Speaker 2: Then let's wrap on this because you've set it up here, brag about one more thing, but seriously, like, say something really cool. I don't like no, no, because you got me a cut with a couple good one. I like it. It's been good. Like, tell me something else that's just going awesome in your life right now. I just uh, don't stumble, let's go. I'll commit to it. I just got a new septic at my house and they just they just finished that off. That's big news this morning.

00:51:35
Speaker 3: Actually, this is big wow, grown up stuff.

00:51:39
Speaker 2: You know, you're not on like city septic.

00:51:42
Speaker 3: Personal I like relying on other people, you know.

00:51:46
Speaker 2: But septic's not relying on other people. That's just living in the community. I get my own water. I don't need I don't need the plumbing.

00:51:54
Speaker 3: That's all right.

00:51:55
Speaker 2: You guys, you're listening or you're watching. The Brunette World tour kicks off in February. But he doesn't need you. Hes already got people going to a show. He's already sold out. Yeah, uh no, go watch Tucker. It's really cool to watch even how much better you've gotten live think because and that just comes with just just reps honestly, but even like the show you're playing here at the Rhyman too. I mean you've played our you played our show way back in the day. Just to kind of watch the growth of you as a songwriter and an artist, it has been really cool to see, man, Thank you man. And also like how many abs do you have? Like if you were to count to your abs, how many do you have?

00:52:30
Speaker 3: Not too much right now I'm kind of slack and it's it's off season right now.

00:52:34
Speaker 2: That's bull trap all right. There he is, Tucker web More. Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production.