Becca & Rachel Break Down Hometowns and Reminisce on Their Own

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Speaker 1: Welcome back Happy Hour listeners. Now, I know I said this last week, but we're gonna do it again, and we're gonna be doing things a little bit differently because we're not having to guess. Today. Rachel and I just saw we're top on here and give a good old old fashioned recap for you all, which I need to preface it with this. It feels very strange to be doing this and get caught up in the show when everything has gone down in the past week and a half within the franchise. But Rachel, it is a job. We are professionals most of the time, so here we go. But I do have to say, Rachel just showed me she's drinking some bordone with some good old tinfoil on the becca. Do you call this tinfoil? Tinfoil? Oh, I just say foil. I've never heard so. I mean it is tinfoil. I've just never heard somebody use the full name. You gotta give it the problem. Wait, do you say aluminum or aluminium? Okay, the fact that you can't say it it's aluminum. Somebody the other day said aluminium and I thought they were talking about a rocket ship or something that I was like, what the hell are you talking? Where were they from? Yeah? But pro tip here for anyone who loves to drink some champagne stuck up on your board, don't don't put the tinfile on the top. Just stick a spoon in it and it'll keep the bubbles, keeps it fresh, Rachel, before we get into all that we saw go down with Hometowns, you know we will get into I don't even want to say the drama. There was really no drama during Hometowns. But I just want to check in with you as a friend overall. How are you doing? How's your head, how's your heart? Um? You know I was okay initially, I'm not one hundred percent okay now just more like just sad. It's humanity, just like that's really what it comes down to. It's just sad the way people think. And I don't care what side you're on on this. It's just sad. We are so divide, like to be that's linked to a store, worry to be part of a story and then to see how and I lived it. I was in it, you know, so like it doesn't get more truthful to me and the other person, Chris that was involved in it and just to see how people are twisting things and like kind of like adding their own flare to the story. And it's getting so far away from what originally happened. It's just disheartening. The name calling, the accusations, the assumptions, the misconceptions, the stereotypes. It's just it's a lot. It's a lot, you know. But if you think it's gonna make me stop doing the things that I'm doing, you got me f up. All it does is emboldened and empower me. I know my brand, I know who I am, I know what I stand for, and I'm never gonna stop, you know, standing for those things normal I stop doing my job, which at the end of the day, that's exactly what I was doing, my damn job. Yeah, you know what I mean. Well, And to your point, through all of this, you have handled things with so much class, with so much grace. You. I think I said this on the top of the podcast last week, but you are a fighter, and you are such a good friend, and I mean, I'm always inspired by you. I'm always just in awe of you. You and your presence and how you carry yourself and you continue to fight for what is right, and so for me personally, I just I'm giving you a virtual hug and I want you just to know how much I still look up to you and respect you and just keep being you, keep shining. Your support is everything. Thank you, Becca. You're always so sweet. You're always so sweet, and this is why I love you, Rachel Lindsay, I just love you the podcast. We have the good weeks, we have the bad weeks. We have drama, we have zero drama. Whatever it could be, the ups and the downs. You know, we got each other. So I think with that being said, we'll put our little um therapy session assign and just get into it right because you're right at hometowns and I want to say something. Give it to me. The reason we don't have a guest because nobody wanted to recap this episode. M you know why. It was boring with a capital B. It's the most linear episode I've ever seen in all my Bachelor years. There was nothing. I kept, Becca, tell me, if you feel the same way, I kept waiting for something to happen. I kept rewinding it. Oh I must have missed what he said. Okay, I no, you didn't miss anything. Nothing happened, and I mean, I guess that's it's it's almost like they were all the same hometowns, just put in a different parent, a different sister, a different you know, contestant. But it was all the same, the same conversations, the same responses, right, yeah, there it was. It was there was no possess there was no no And it's so interesting because all season I feel like there's been so much trauma and so much cattiness, just heaviness, and I'm like, I just want a normal episode, you know, like I just want the love stories, and now that we have it, we're like, wait, where's the drama? What are we watching? Careful what you ask for? Exactly not it. You know what if Serena p hadn't self eliminated, nothing would have happened. There would have been really nothing at all. And I don't know if it's suited to the fact that like they can't travel home and there's they can't really show where they grew up. It's like it's hard to bring a city in a hometown to Nemacolin. But it was just yeah, I mean at one point, I mean not even at one point. For most of it, I just kind of zoned out, and I was like, oh, you know some pictures, paint my nails, do whatever I gotta do, but tell me that I guess this is the moment where the love stories really are coming out. Did you long Taxi? I know I did. I said, damn it, Rachel, you spoke too soon. I longed for the days of the cardboard taxi. I tastious hometowns. We might have joked about him, but there was some puzzaz as you say, it was interesting, There was it was fun. There was character to it. I don't know, like even though they were only on the little kink the property, Matt had an opportunity to be bigger and better. It seems like they left the property a bit and it still was just so flat. Even Rachel falling out of the sky onto her face, it still was anti climactic. I don't know, there was just nothing. Nothing did it for me? Yeah, I, oh, you know what. I think this is a good point to just walk down memory lane, because I feel like what we lived was maybe way more exciting than when we saw go down way. Take a step back to the old wonder years, if you will, when you were well, I want to get both into when you were a Nick season for your hometown date and then when you were about stride those So a Nick season, you brought him to church. Correct yes to your frontne, what was your favorite part about showing him around? I was really eager to take Nick to church because even though I wasn't well versed on Bachelor before my season, I figured this was something. Well one, I knew a black person had never made it this far. I'd never had a hometown, so I knew whatever I was doing was going to be very new to this audience. So I really wanted to show him what a typical Sunday was like for me, which was church, which was so much fun. Even I remember the cast and crew were like, thank you so much for taking us to church. It was we had a blast. Like Nick was clapping, he wanted to dance, and I was like, chill out, like you know, like, don't embarrass me in front of these folks. I actually come back here every Sunday. You, on the other hand, could be just a visitor. I don't know where this is going to go. Then we went to brunch at a hotel Zaza, which I don't even know if that brunch is still popping, but it was popping back back in twenty sixteen when I went and which is typically go church, you go to brunch with friends, maybe you watch some football, and then we went to my parents' house because sometimes that's what we do, is Sunday Launch or Sunday dinner. And it was a lot of fun. I the girls had a lot of emotion. I don't remember being that emotional. They all were crying. See what I'm saying. Everything was the same. You cry, you cry, you cry, you have a boring pomebow, you have apart out time that one. Everything was so linear. Oh my god. I wasn't emotional like that. I was just so happy to see my family. Um, and I remember there was a big game on that day. It was Packers maybe and somebody else or maybe it's Packers and I can't remember the big game. Ons was like we keep sticking away to watch the game. But no, my hometown was fun. It was easy. Nick fit in in a very effortless way. Um, we ate a little soul food. We had good conversation. My parents, my family kept it real. I loved it. What about Gars, Well, there's just something to be said for being back where you grew up, like driving down and being able to point out that's my school, that's where I had my first kiss, that's where I got in a car cry. Whatever it might be, there's just something special about that that the past two seasons, it's just lacking. What did I do? So when I brought Ari to my hometown, we went apple picking, which, oh yeah, which is something I grew up doing with my family all the time. And the orchard that I took him to was amazing because not only could we pick apples, but they had the slingshot. I don't even know if this aired, but we had a massive slingshot where you could put the apples in and try to hit the targets. But the day that we filmed, it was freezing. It was snowing. It was so cold. I thought there, I was like, I don't even know if there's gonna be apples to pick, Like art Department's going to really have to show up over time because it was so frozen. Ended up working out. We just sat and drink whiskey in front of the fire and made her muffles. But yeah, I mean, doing a hometown in Minnesota in the winter is not the easiest, but I think it was. I didn't cry. I was so excited to just see my family, like the fact that they you know, there's like so much wait, like stop and go, stop and go and wait. I was sitting out in the car in front of my mom's house for maybe forty five minutes before I could actually meet him to walk up, and I was so aunty, as like I'm quitting the show now, like I just want to run in there. I want to see my family. But it was just special. It was just there's something about being like seeing all of your family's artwork and being at the kitchen table that you grew up where there's crayon and marker stains all over that just make it special. But my favorite part, and this I didn't even realize in the moment until it aired back later. There was a part which, you know, if it is what's the saying, um in hindsight everything is twenty twenty. There was a moment where I was sitting down with my mom talking about, you know, like how this could potentially end and you know, we are falling for each other and could this could have ended an engagement? My mom looks at me, and she just goes, no, that's all she said, Nope, shakes her head, and that I think now because hindsight was probably one of my favorite moments because I think in that moment moment she knew that it wasn't going to work out, or like it wasn't totally right or there. But yeah, it's just I was best. It's so funny that you say that, because I kept looking for my parents to be like, no, they're saying it, snap out of it, and they were like, he's cool, and I thought, no, you are the reality that it's supposed to check the situation. So I remember walking away being like, oh my gosh, my parents liked him a lot. My family liked him. They were very accepting of him. They were supposed to check me and bring me back to reality, and they were like, no, this is what you want, this is great. And I was completely thrown off about that. It's funny that you talked about waiting outside of your family home. We waited for almost two hours, really my home? Do you know why? Why? Do you know why? Because my sister and older sister, Constance fashion wore a shirt that was moraying on camera and they told her not to wear that shirt. But she picked this outfit out, She's taken the time, the money, and she wanted to wear it, but her on camera doesn't work. She spent two hours upset and like venting and angry over the fact she couldn't wear the shirt until finally she picked out the shirt that she was wearing. Then my sister, against the advice of my mother and my younger sister, decided to announce her pregnancy during My Hometown as well. It ain't about Rachel, It's about my sister. I remember thinking, I remember aut se Nick, and I was like, well, if this ain't show you how the family is, I don't know what else. I totally made the Hall Hometown about herself. I love that only because I feel like that compared to my sister and I, that would have totally been metal totally. But if I would have waited two hours, because you know, it's like everything has to be filmed within a certain time, like you can't go all night filming, I would have been so I would have walked in that house and be like, take your top off, or you're not coming up, You're not coming to the state, Like do what you gotta do. I should have. I should have. Um, okay, who was your favorite? Because we obviously had four hometowns when it came to when we were bachelorette. Don't want to go through all of them. Who is your favorite? Like for me personally when I was lead, now when you were late, Um, I was your favorite hometown? I would say Blake probably was that Betty Who? That was Betty Who? Yeah, there's no I mean honestly, I had more of a hometown. I think with Betty Who like her and I just had a moment We're laying on the floor like rolling around singing, dancing, but I and I don't get I think it's because I don't get completely surprised and shocked ever really in my life. That that was the first time where I was like speechless, like what the hell is my life right now? She's like, you're one of your favorite artists, right she is? And I think it's and I think he knew that because coming back from a date prior to that, we were in the vans, like fifteen minutes driving back to a hotel and I mentioned her, and I think he went to his producer and was like, hey, she loves Betty Who. How can we make this happen? And they the powers that be somehow got her and shout out to Betty who you are incredible by the way. Um yeah, I was blown away. I did not I thought we were going to go to his high school and play basketball or something. I was like, Oh, this would be fun, Okay, I'll do whatever. And then in the fact that it was Betty who, I almost fell over, like I think I drew blood on his arm because I was so shocked because I like spun around and I was like, but I'm so excited. That's pretty awesome. I mean, I would say minus Bryan's and not even because I ended up with him, but it gave me a taste of who he is. And then we did little things that I would love to do in real life, like explore the city. We explored a certain area of Miami, and then he introduced me to a food, a certain Colombian food, and then we were like walking the street and then we stopped and like bought like little shrinkets and stuff. Then we went dancing to live music, which is one of my favorite things to do, and so I was just like, oh, I love just like the flavor of all of this, and it was just a lot of fun. And it felt very despite the camera despiping Mike, and if it was an actual TV show, it felt very real life and it felt very comfortable and effortless. And I was like, yeah, this is I would have hated if he had taken me to like on a yacht and shown me like the more glamorous side of Miami. That's just like all the fluff and you know, just very stereotypical Miami. He showed me the heart of Miami, like us playing dominoes. You listen, I love playing dominoes, like playing dominoes, Domino Park and all of it. Like that to me was like, oh you hear me, you know, Gret. That's why it's always interesting when I watched some hometowns when like somebody will go horseback riding or bungee jumping or like you said, on a yacht, It's like, what are you doing this in real life? Like isn't this supposed to be all encompassing of who you are at home? And so I never understood. Maybe it's just like they ran out of content. I don't know, no ideas, but yeah, I would have loved that day. To just exploring a city and having somebody show you like their favorite go to spots, absolute things. Whose family were you most nervous to meet? Bryan's hands because because of his mom and because of his mom when he had told me he was my first hometown that I had. Um, yeah, between his mom and the first hometown, And I distinctly remember thinking these could be my in laws, so I really want to make a good impression. Yeah, Like I was nervous even walking up. I remember, and it's so weird now to think about it because I go to that house all the time, but I remember standing around the corner we were walking, and then I stopped and I was like, no, no, wait, wait, it's just like give me a second, just give me a second, because I was thinking these could be my in laws, and I didn't really have that same thought with the other ones. Like I was nervous, but I was really nervous from Brian's and he'll and he'll reference that too. Wait who is your top four? Brian, Peter, Eric Dean. Yeah, okay, Eric's was fun too, um, and obviously Dean's was the most awkward, right, But my role in Deans was more of like I wanted to make him feel comfortable because he was so uncomfortable and worried about what I was thinking. I felt it took. It was like a matronly role. I was just like, I just want him to know and it was fine, but I wanted him to know I'm okay, everything's all good, Like let's just go and meet your family. We'll have a good time. And I wanted him to know, like it's okay, We're gonna be fine, nothing's weird, all good. He made it through, and he made it though. It was fine. I actually enjoyed it until it just got like crazy towards the end. Let's just get into it with these ladies. We look I feel like it's not gonna take a song or it's like, yeah, did you have a favorite? Did somebody stick out to you? My favorite would have been I liked Serena's only because I felt like she actually brought a piece of home with her on her date. Like all the other ones didn't feel like anything unique to them. It's like, anyone can go biking, anyone can go skydiving. Well, Michelle's. I actually really did like Michelle's stay the biking. No, not that I forgot about that. I probably dozed off the kids. Oh oh that is Rachel, I totally forgot about. I don't blame you, but the kids was I thought, oh, whoever planned this? This is a really really cute idea. Yeah, that was sweet. That was sweet, I am And honestly, it felt like she didn't exactly know if, like who was all going to show up, like if the entire class is gonna be there. Yeah, I can't believe I cut that part, but no, no, I get it. That part was wonderful. And then yeah, I think Sarna Pee is just because it felt like something different and it was cute. I will say I too. Matt James called the hat that is currently on my head a tobaccan. No, no, Rachel, it's a sled. No, I'm gonna go ahead and say this is something that's with black folks. When Matt said it, I said, yeah, that is what we call this on our head. Is it toboggan? I mean a beanie? Yes, I know, but we also say tobogan So when Matt said it, I go, yes, that's what we say. I did an Instagram poll on my story maybe three weeks ago about this because I always call it a beanie. Canadians called it what a tuc And then somebody, some random person was like, no, it's a deboggan. And I was like, black, is it a Southern thing? Because I don't know, and maybe it's a Southern thing, but when he said it, I was like, yeah, yeah, that's what we call it. I had this whole debate with my uncle because he went and like back in the roots of how it started being called this, and I was like, I just all I knows is debogan is what you put your ass in. We don't know, I mean, except for what's happening right now in Texas. We don't typically use tobogains, so we don't know anything about that. Also, if you're listening to this podcasting you're in Texas, we hope you are safe. We hope that you are somewhere that is warm, that has power. But Becca shout out to Maya. This one's for you, Maya. Maya has given us the definition of a toboggan. It is one of a vast array of words used to describe a nit hat. Because of the freezing condition conditions, toboggan riders are often oh gosh, I cannot read. Because of the freezing conditions, Tobiban riders often wore knit hats to keep warm. These hats soon became noticed toboggan hats, but since at least nineteen twenty nine, the second word has been dropped, meaning they are just called toboggan. Interesting. You'll learn something new every day. Yeah, Also, black folks sing when I think of a toboggan. All I don't know why this pops into my head is care bears? Like that's it. I'd like to show you something alto a second. Okay, what do you have to tell me, Rachel? Okay, since you mentioned toboggains and care bears, I'd like to show you something. Stop. I feel like I had one. I wonder if my mom still has wine. It looks a little disheveled, but this is grumpy. He's from nineteen eighty five. I'm pretty sure he's probably worth something now, well, now now that he's yours, it definitely is Do you sleep with him every night? Yes? When coppers I try to attack him. And this You've mentioned care bears, But maybe that's why I have a love for toboggains. Maybe that's why I called from that because the girls are here. We have Grumpy here with us today. Grumpy, how did you feel about hometowns? His face says it all crickets, I get it. I feel you, man. How did I not know that you slept with the care bear? I talked about sleeping with my blanket all the time, and people give me so much crap for it. But you also have a vice. Okay, Grumpy, Now, if he's really is worth a lot of money, I'm selling him. How does Brian feel about him? He moves him to the side, but he's around. He's around, so he's still here. He's the first man in your life. He's the first man in my life. Nineteen eighty five Rumpy and the name fits um. Okay, we have gone down the wrong path between Vitamata, vegament and Grumpy. I'm revealing all the things that I that I love outside of fast donation. I don't even want to like break down these dates, like the activities. I just want to get into, like the families and the conversations. Yeah, following your lead, all four of these what family stock out to whoa, Oh my gosh, I'm pretty into Rachel. I cannot talk stuck out to you the most, or did anyone ask like a really good question. I guess Shell maybe because she was first Michelle. Michelle's family stood out. They seemed to care her whatever she went through in the last relationship. You could tell her family was very much so involved, so she's very close to them. Seems like she leaned on them when she was going through it. They seemed to like really be concerned about that. But also we're very perceptive of how she was filling with Matt, Like the mom was like, I'm paying attention to how he looks at you, and then she was kind of asking the questions before Michelle was even able to talk about it, like she just knew, like they were very much so in sync, they got it. I just like Michelle. She she is very I would have guessed she was a teacher before I knew. She just seems very like she gives off that vibe, very warm. You just seem like you're comfortable with her. There's no airs about her. What you see is what you get. Very things just seemed effortless with her. I like Michelle. Yeah, it felt like watching the way that they interacted, it's not over the top. It's not like in your face. She like her family really truly. Maybe it's the Minnesota kind of reminded me of how mine was like just very even keeled, would ask the right questions like it wasn't you know. They were a little bit hesitant of maybe like how the show was running, but still like open and trusting their daughter. I do like how they were like, we trust her daughter, like, you know, if she's feeling this way, then we'll go with it. We will accept the relationship whatever that might be. Um. I think out of all of the families, I I liked um Serena's sister because she was the first one to call her out and be like, hey, I don't see it with you. There's no pizzas, something's missing. I liked it, which I think it's so easy and granted, like I can't put myself in my family's shoes because I'm the one who went on the show, But I think it's very easy for people to feel like they want this love story to work out and it's like this beautiful, perfect, like extravagant situation where they want they of course want the loved one to find a partner, but the fact that she's like I don't know. You just seem different. It's not like you're you're not all in. I'm glad that she had that moment, because how did her sister and her mom not had that conversation. I don't know if she would have sent herself home, do you No, You're right, That's that is what I was trying to get from my family, like a reality check. Man. I liked Nick, but I thought that they would have checked me like her family checked her. I guess they were like, nah, you look like you really liked this man, which, yeah, yeah, I thought, I absolutely agree with you. If if Serena didn't get that from her family, I don't know if she would have been able to see it. And that's the beauty of hometowns. I think that's the bigger picture. Is your family is your reality check. They're not living in the bachelor bubble. They don't understand what it is to go through this accelerated version of finding your person and falling in love. You can tell I've been watching Gray's Anatomy that I just said my person. I mean, I know Serena pie said's and I actually really don't like when people say that. But I've been watching a lot of Gray's Anatomy shout out to Christina and Meredith Christina Gang and Meredith Grey, who are each other's person's best No, but I liked that Serena would have been my second pick of a favorite hometown, just because there seemed to be of like, let's just like cut the bs and get right to it. Serena, this ain't for you. And kudos to Serena for taking that and then actually saying that's true. Kudos to Serena for being able to like take that in and say, oh, no, I was saying a lot of times you see other families try to tell the contestant, hey, you like I don't really see it, or are you sure, and they just kind of brush that off because of what they're feeling in the bubble. Serena said, I'm gonna listen to my people. My people know me, they get me, and you know, she made her decision thereafter when they sit down and she's, you know, kind of hesitant about how she's feeling with him and he and he just goes, just trust me, just trust me. Was there a disconnect there because I'm sitting there as a viewer being like she's trying to tell you how she's feeling right now. She's like not fully in, she doesn't know how she totally feels. But for you to just say just trust me seems like a very odd response. Correct. Yes, there seems to be a disconnect with Matt and all the women except for Rachel, which it was interesting that he came back and then said all those things because there wasn't a disconnect at that point. Yeah, it was weird. It's like, I don't know if he took it as she was hesitant because she was thinking, oh, he still has through their way. I don't know. I was looking at it like, oh, she wants out and she just can't fully say right now, and he's like still trying to convince her. But I don't even think he was aware that that was happening, Like it was just strange. But then but then when they actually sit down for her to leave, when he said goodbye, it didn't seem choppy. When he's just like okay, well can I walk you out or can you walk me out? There was like no, like I could tell he was upset, But do you think it was because he was gutted or because he was This was one of the first girls who really self eliminated besides Kit, I think that he felt embarrassed that he said, came to her room, took that time extra time to come and talk to her. And then she was like yeah, and she said, you're not my person. She could have just said you don't what, like I'm not ready. She said, it's not even that I'm not ready. I don't see it with you like that was kind of harsh. She didn't say it harsh, but it was like very direct. Loved it. Love that she was so matter of fact about it. She beat around the bush. She was just like, Nope, it's not you. And I think that caught him off guard now and you see that he was kind of like taking it back. There was a silence, and then in the car he seemed upset and then we saw the emotion from him and then my voice kind of goes up the emotion, but the question mark from him, I'm convinced they took that from something else that just didn't flow quite right with me. I said, where is this tear coming from? You haven't given Serena, Pete anything or Brey or Michelle this whole time. He's very dry and I find I find us all very interesting. We've clearly seen him weeks ago tell Rachel that he's falling in love with her, but he won't tell any of the other women that. I mean, what do y'all want us to do with this here? Well? Which is interesting because I felt like when I was the lead, I was very I knew I didn't want to tell anyone I loved them until it was at the very end, like there was one person left. But I had conversations with the team about it because a lot of a lot of the producer had worked on similar seasons. So they're like, Okay, you know, we saw so and so say I love you to two people we saw so it's like, where's the balance? Like usually I feel like if they give one hand, they have to give the other, so it leaves the audience wondering. And right now it's like, yeah, very apparent. He's like, don't want to say it to them, just yeah we said it's Rachel so and early on a first one on one. I don't know, for me, I didn't mind saying I was like my top four. I told all of them that I was falling in love with them because I was, you know, like I had feelings for them and I was falling, but only to one person. I was actually in love with them. But like I did, I I'd love for all of my top four in different ways, and it all meant something different. And for me, I didn't even think about like what that could mean, you know, in the it when making a TV show, I was very much so in the moment. So if I felt it, I said it because I didn't want to have any regret. If I said it to you, I meant it wholeheart heartedly, and I didn't want to go back to my room and think, oh I wish I would have said it. I didn't think about, oh, this could be bad for the person I choose at the end, and I watch it because I wanted you to know that every what you saw was real, and if I chose you, that means I chose you feeling everything and still said, but it's you out of all these people. I wanted to give myself fully in whatever way that I wanted to with each person. Yeah, I wanted I see, and I was so I think I was so scarred from my time on the Bad Shirt, where I knew the kid said it to multiple people. So I was so guarded. But if I was just to go like balls to the walls and say, I would have told Blake like WI two, you know this, and elfhere He's like, I'm in love and I don't care who knows it. That's how I felt. Where the producers were like, maybe rain it in a little bit, like don't give all of your cards away right away two weeks in and then have whatever I mean, obviously we shout how it all went down. Yeah, it's such a weird balancing act. It is a weird balancing act. And you can't and you are kind of like, you know, you can't give too much to each person. You have to keep it. It's just part of it and for their sake, but then also because TV show. But I don't know. I just think it's weird that he hasn't told any of the other women or we haven't seen it. But because they're saying it and he's not saying it back, he's kissing them. Usually at this point they're at least saying it. They're not saying they're in love with you. They're saying they're falling for you, right, But do you think it's can you chalk it up to the fact that he's never done this before, so he doesn't know what it feels like. On the other side, like he's just so lazer lazered in I'm just one woman that he just maybe true, you know, like it's very obvious. It's with Rachel um god who one of the hometowns. He was dead in the eyes. Oh I think I think it was breeze. He was dead in the eyes like there was he was giving her nothing. Oh yeah, she was saying it. She was there, he was kissing her, but there was nothing on those sides. It's all in the eyes, ladies, It truly is. I know the song says it's all in his kiss. It's not. It's in his eyes. Men can't hide it. They don't know how to They don't know how to do that. If you want to know if he loves you, shut so almost said, oh my god, this sport. I cannot handle it. If you want to know if he loves you so in his heart, No, it's kiss that's where it is. Yeah, like is it it is hard? Oh? No, If you wanna know he loves his eyes, I think it's good. No, I know, I'm telling you, but it's really in his eye. It's not at his kiss, it's in his eyes. Like so many people are going to write in and be like, now these are the later stop singing. They're gonna like stop singing. Yeah. The more though that I feel like the longest time, I couldn't tell what Matt James's type was, Like, who is he actually into? I mean, obviously we talked about he's very into Rachel, but I think he's into That's why I think he likes Serena p so much. It's it's like childlike in a way, like their interaction. It's just so playful and lighthearted and fun that I think and maybe and also too, I don't know if that's like the best thing at this point for like a long lasting relationship, but that that's what I'm slowly learning about him, is that he gravitates towards like the fun, giddy playfulness like we saw with him and Tyler Cameron. He always talks about how he loves to play brankstuff people and yeah that was his favorite thing. You'd be surprised. So yeah, there just doesn't seem to be I can't see him getting engaged at the end of It's gonna be honest, like it's I can't see from where we are right now in the show more than ever, I can't see him jumping to engagement. You watched other seasons is just a different feel. If this is your first season watching The Bachelor, then you don't know. But if you watch other seasons, something's missing and I just can't see him like I can't. First of all, this has been a very long season, so thank you for bearing with us and staying with us through this through this long season. But something is off. I don't know what to do. You feel it something's missing that he's not getting engaged at the end of that. No, I totally would agree with you. I can't. I cannot picture him getting down one knee at the end of this. But that's what made it interesting when he went into the Rows ceremony and he's just like Serena Pe went home because she couldn't see an engagement, And that's what I'm looking for. So if you're going to accept this, Rose, just know that that's what's in mind, which we all know that supremise of the show, that's why people come on is to potentially fall in love and get engaged. But that's where I was like, Okay, are his words going to add up to his actions or is it gonna be like is it gonna get down to the wire in that last day and be like, oh now I have to actually put my money where my mouth is, and maybe I'm not quite ready. So yeah, I'm the Meryl Street me. We don't believe you know, Like I got my hands up to my face, I'm standing up. I'm like, I don't believe you at all at this point. Yeah, we got a couple more weeks, so well, speaking of what we think is going to happen, let's get into some predictions here. Okay, because we doing lot predictions that stood. Who do you think of? Stop two are? Oh? Yes, um, as of right now, I'm gonna say Rachel and Michelle because Sree was gone. Yeah, it's clearly Rachel. Yeah, I mean we already we've we've literally said it. We said he was dead in the eyes talking to breathe Serena pe eliminated himself. It's got to be Michelle and Rachel at this point. Yeah, yeah, that's the top two. I mean, other predictions Becca and I have already said we don't think he's getting engaged. It's just too far off the leap. Someone's lacking here unless unless something we got We got fantasy suits coming up. So unless something boom bam happens in the boom boom room, I'm not seeing it. What do you think prediction for this one? What do you think makes him break down that we saw in the teaser When christ I've said it before, I said, he has not shown any emotion with these women, so it has to be something coming from the outside in my opinion, that makes him break down, because that's zero to one hundred, and we have not seen him show that type of you know what I mean, feeling towards them. So something else, I don't know, if it's a mom, what he has, a brother, maybe his brother, I don't I don't know. Something else makes him break down that way. It's not these women. I have a feeling that it's going to happen in fantasy suites were one girl, because there's always somebody that gets sew in their head and they're like, I can't imagine you being with anybody else. I have to leave, or like is on the edge of being like I can't do this I got to see myself out, and that's what I think it might be. I just don't think he likes anybody enough to really break down down that much. I didn't even believe the one tear. It wouldn't even a tear. It was like wetness that was on his face after Serena p left. I think the only one that could do it is maybe Rachel. Maybe Rachel. You're right, because we know he likes her. Yeah. Yeah, is there anybody reading the dude who couldn't hit the room this week? I'm gonna say, Matt MA with Serena, Matt with Serena, MA with Serena when she's having that conversation after he met her family and she's trying to basically say like she's still kind of hesitant and is unsure, and he's like, just trust me, just trust me. That's where I was like, Matt, get it together. She's not that into you. We've all seen the movie. Mmmm it was that. It was that yoga day. Yeah, I'm giving it to the skydiver professional fell on top of Rachel. Did he not look so young when they were sitting in the plane too. I looked at him and I was like, I don't think he's qualified to be doing this right now. Well, and it shows, I've hope he's been bench it benched, suspended, license revoked, you know, I mean it was. It's not funny, but it's like she's given the thumps up. She's having the time of her life. She's like, mad, I'm literally falling for you. And then the next thing they show is this man falling on top of her with his whole way. Sorry, this is what you do for a living. How many planes have you jumped out of? How many times have you done this? My goodness of a show hired you to do your job and you've failed. Well, you know, they could only have so many people in quarantinaemicole, and so they actually asked the chef to come fill in that day. Have you literally have you seen have you seen The Dark Knight Rises? No? You have it? No, I'm not a big movie watcher. I'm not either. I am not either, but my god, Becca, if there's a trilogy to watch, it's I've seen the Dark Knight. It's the Dark Knight. No, it's the Dark Knight Begins, I think, or something like something like that. And then it's a dark Knight is dark, dark, Knight rises. There's a point, oh my gosh, when everybody thinks Batman's dead. I don't want to give too much away. And Alfred the one who's been taking care of Batman ever since his parents were gunned down in the streets, and he says he trusted me. I failed you and I failed you. It trusted me. That was Rachel with the skyty that was essential. She trusted you and you failed her. Oh my gosh, can you imagine? No, Like, I've been skydiving before and really oh and I love it. It's so fun. But but the landing, like, I mean, all you're supposed to really do is like stick up your legs and you know they'll landing Nason smooth. But but it's not easy. But I cannot There was like there was not even legs up or anything like. That guy was just like straight roller like what is it called steam rolling down? Me? Was he was okay? Right? Like he think? So she broke he broke No, she broke his fall. He landed on top of her to be okay. That is awful. Like this man needs to go back to training. I'm not quite sure. Let's they should have brought Indean for this one, bringing the professionals people, did they sign disclaimers? I'd be more than happy to represent you everybody. Um, Okay, somehow I don't know this was I'm going to go ahead and give this award as the most boring episode I've ever seen since I've been watching The Bachelor. And somehow we were still able to talk about this episode for over fifty minutes. That is what you call professionalism. Well, I also think you sing for about twenty minutes of it, So thank and I'll be back next week for more tunes. Everyone, please send in your karaoke request to Rachel. She will try to cover as many as she can. I will throw some in there as well. I will maybe bring out my tambourine, my harmonica, whatever you want. We are here to entertain you. Yeah, I mean, I think that is it. I'm very proud of us. I must say, I'm very proud that we come from this episode. Honestly though, I am looking forward to next week for Women Tell All because I feel like, not even for the drama, but just to get into some more conversations about the women, their thoughts on what I feel like, what they lived through. On the show versus what was portrayed. I think it's going to hopefully be one Women to All that has a little bit more depth and from what we can take from the women that we've had on the podcast so far, it doesn't seem like it got crazy, Caddy. It's just hopefully more insightful if anything else, which is probably something very much needed at this time for vaternation. So you guys, stay tuned for next week. We can't wait to have the Women to All episode. And while we've had the pleasure of speaking to some of the ladies from this season, we're eager to hear from some more who we haven't gotten to speak with yet. Yes, and next week we are veering off the path. I know you guys, you come here, I'll be honest. You don't want to hear Becca and I talk. We've seen your reviews. You want the guests, and we know there was no guests this week. But guess what we have next week. Not a contestant on the show, not a former lead, not someone I don't know. If have you ever heard on your I don't podcast whatever it may be, where you listen to things I don't know, if you've ever heard from this person. So you're getting a Bachelor Happy Hour special here next week, Four Women Tell All to recap, we have a very special, very funny guest that we've really been waiting to have on this podcast for quite some time, and that is the hilarious, the talented Amy Schumer. That's right, she's a huge fan of the show. She's been keeping up with all the drama this season. We're so, so so excited to have her here on her take on everything that's gone down this season. But also the Women Tell All You guys, I don't know any other podcast that's bringing you guests like Amy Schumer. I'm gonna brag on that for a second. Try Echa. I cannot wait. I feel like I have to send her some bordone before she hops on. But like I feel like I haven't been this excited did to have a guest on since we didn't listen to your Heart when we had some awesome musical talent. So I can't wait to bring her on. I feel like I'm just going to sit there and just like La, I probably won't talk. I'll probably just laugh the entire time. So apologies in advance everyone, But in the meantime, if you have any questions for her, please send them into us. You know where to find us. It's at Bachelor Happy Hour on Instagram and app, Batch Happy Hour on both Facebook and Twitter, and always, as always, please don't forget to subscribe. If you want to keep listening to us week by week, you can find us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, The Wondering App, or wherever you are listening right now