Preseason Pop and Mailbag with Colleen Wolfe

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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're trying not to have an NFC East bias. I'm Greg Rosenthal here in the Chris Westling podcast study. We're trying, we're pushing against it, but I do have Colleen Wolf here.

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Speaker 2: Well, listen, we can only play the cards that we've been dealt. And you know, the NFC has a lot going on it.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of interest in it. We did have like an Eagles heavy show, like an Eagle's deep dive.

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Speaker 3: Last you know what we should tell.

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Speaker 1: I know you were in Philadelphia. We will get to Connie's travels. But it's good to have you back in Los Angeles. My favorite day of the week, Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Hey, I'm so happy that I'm back.

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Speaker 2: Also, I get to do another show just with you that you know what, the first time felt a little weird. Then we kind of found our footing and now it's just like we've been doing this for what eleven years?

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Speaker 1: It was a fun dynamic. You know, we got we got deep. I don't know if we're going to get as metaphysical.

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Speaker 3: What was the feedback on that?

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Speaker 1: It was good? So we'll see if we talk about life and death, we will talk a little bit of news and then we're diving deep into the mail bag. But the fans demanded some mail bag action and we will get to that. Before that, I will remind everyone that Forties and free Agents, my podcast with Daniel Jeremiah is back where we're doing it a couple of times a week leading up to the season. So if if you like this show NFL Daily, please check that out and please subscribe to the Forties and free Agent Feed because I'm working on the big wigs of stop posting it in the NFL Daily Feed. So next show I want to I want to go out on our own and we need to have a strong showing to go ahead and subscribe.

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Speaker 3: All right, I'm subscribing right now.

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Speaker 1: Look, Colleen's doing that. I forget for real as a bit and yeah, and then you get the automatic downloads right away. Forties and free Agents Cool, but you know now we're talking about how those free agents, how those rooks from Daniel Jeremiah's own noggin will help your team. He had a couple actionable items, I would say, in terms of fantasy, not that that's why he was doing it, but of some rookies that he expects to have an early impact. That prised me this week, So we talked NFC West with Daniel and we have an update on one of the teams. The Rams signed Kyrien Williams to a twenty three million dollar guaranteed contract extension, and it's good to see a good player, maybe not a great player, have a contract that is perfect for both sides, Like he was not trying to break the bank, and they're going to use him, I think in a rotation with maybe some more explosive backups. But one of the kind of hardest working really is that event through the league in the last few years.

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Speaker 2: And then especially with Matthew Stafford. And I saw your tweet earlier today about your concern with his back. So if you have any type of stretches without him or stretches with him, just not one hundred percent, then this is a guy that you can lean on. He's so durable, he works so hard, and the offense struggled last year with explosive plays, so this, I feel like is something I mean, despite his production last year, they still sort of struggled.

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Speaker 1: Partly because of him, because he's more of a guy that gets you, like seven when you block for five, if that makes sense. But he doesn't have the big plays like Saquon, but that doesn't mean he's not extremely valuable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and they're trying to be more versatile on offense, but they need to keep these guys around to even get that way.

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Speaker 1: The Rams since Sean McVay has gotten there, have been good. When the running game is good, it really is the different and they always have a sneaky good running game. They were top six or seven in the league and success rate last year. So I like this move and I think he'll feel better. And if they give some more carries to Blake Koram or a Hunter, the rookie behind him, now he doesn't have to worry about it.

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Speaker 2: He has paid and he can He's a pass catcher out of the backfield too, so I mean, look, the more you can do.

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Speaker 1: He is great at that. And yes, I tweeted out like everyone's so cool about this staff thing, like is it okay to be like a little panicked And then I'm not saying I have this sort of power. But almost immediately after I sent that out, like an hour later, Adam Schefter had some report that Matthew Stafford the Rams are not worried. It's just maintenance. I don't think it was a response, but I might not have sent that tweet out if I And it actually did make me feel better that it was like the Rams are fine with this, It's just maintenance for an older guy. And I was just thinking, like I don't know. Sean McVay was saying, like the guy is just starting to walk, you know, a couple of days ago, and it's like a thirty seven.

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Speaker 2: Year old at Also, I do remember last year didn't Jordan talk about and describe Matthew Stafford as like someone when you're trying to.

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Speaker 3: Get out of bed and like it's hard to get out of bed and walk.

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Speaker 1: Around, right. I know he always overcomes it, but some year like he'll stop overcoming it. And the regular season was a little iffy. Also playing at quarterback this season and starting not just in the regular season but the priests season is Joe Burrow, what got to play like a couple quarters this weekend?

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Speaker 3: So good?

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Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy he's gonna be playing in preseason Week one. Kyler Murray is going to be playing in Week one. Good of the preseason.

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Speaker 3: I love this.

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Speaker 1: And then Anthony Richardson less of a surprise, but it is interesting how they're gonna divvy up the snaps. Here's Shanstike in the Colts coach.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Anthony will start on Thursday. The plan is for him to play about a quarter and a half and then get Daniel about a half a quarter. In a perfect world, that's how I wanted to play out. And then the following week in screen Bay, Daniel started, get about a quarter and a half and then Anthon, I'll play about a half quarter.

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Speaker 1: How are you feeling about your Colts? That was one of the questions, but we'll just jump to it.

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Speaker 2: Listen. I want to be loyal to them, but it's a really tough spot for me considering that the quarterback competition is between Daniel Jones and now Anthony Richardson. When I was there last year, it was such a different, amazing experience. Everything was positive, the expectations were high. Anthony Richardson was healthy. Now he's like ready to go.

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Speaker 1: Did you did they send you this year to Indianapolis?

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Speaker 3: They did not.

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Speaker 2: They knew, So that's this is the big difference for me. I wasn't there and I didn't drink the kool aid. So yeah.

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Speaker 1: Also, that camp situation is kind of strange. It's just like next to someone's house.

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Speaker 2: It's in a field and they it's a farm on the other side, and there were angry roosters there.

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Speaker 1: If the if the ball is punted too far, it like goes into someone else's yard. Yeah, it does, and.

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Speaker 2: Then I don't know, like what the like if it's a friendly neighbor or sure, I'm sure it is.

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Speaker 3: Maybe they're angry that, you know, it's always so noisy, don't.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they get a little taste. Do they get some free you know, season tickets, that's the way to do it. I do think it's interesting that Richardson goes up first in this battle. Now he's been there before, so if you had the guess like, yeah, that would make sense. But generally in these QB battles how it goes is you give the favorite, the guy like they to win the first week, you give the underdog the second week, and then you go back to the favorite and he cements the job the third week, not saying it's over. I think Richardson probably has a little bit of a lead right now. So it's a little interesting item and it's got to make this weekend watching some of the preseason games more interesting. Like Saints they have a quarterback battle. You know, we're gonna have a few more starters than normal.

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Speaker 2: The preseason's back coming to a preseason game near you.

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Speaker 1: It is maybe a trend starters, It is maybe a trend. The Bengals have had it in their head this whole offseason, like we start every season slow, We're gonna change things. We're gonna play a ton in the preseason. See if that helps it.

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Speaker 2: Well, they kind of need to, right, They always lose the first the first game, the first two games. But god, what was I gonna say? Because then I just got distracted by the Bengals. But I was thinking about the Colts because I do like the fact that they have lou Anarumo there. Yeah, and they do have some good defensive pieces, so the defense. Actually I'm up on the defense. But what do you think which version of the Colts has a higher ceiling if they have Anthony Richardson or Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 1: Richardson, okay, even.

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Speaker 3: With like the way that he plays and there's no future.

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Speaker 1: I think starting Daniel Jones is like it's just like admitting you have a problem and trying to manage like your addiction. That sort of like if that makes it, And that's a weird comparison, but it's basically saying, like, we accept our fate and we're probably all going to get fired. I don't think that that's a path forward. And I know I think they have a better chance to make the playoffs than most people would think because they're in that division, because they have a handful of good players, and I think that's just a little more variance in that division between them and the Texans and the Jaguar.

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Speaker 2: They went up to Week seventeen last year like they were one game away, excited to keep some competitive, like they almost won the division with Gardner Minshew.

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Speaker 1: I mentioned the stafford. We'll see over the next week other injury news, and this is the flip side of like we want to take the preseason more seriously, we want to take camp more seriously. The Jets have been like team physical at camp. They're tackling to the ground. Nobody's tackling to the ground anymore. They're tackling to the ground at practice. I can just see the New York Post headlines though, is like are they going too hard because on Tuesday, their rookie tight end who I was all excited about, had won the starting job. Mason Taylor has a high ankle sprain and Tyrod Taylor's knee is getting looked at, which is not a good thing because they really need Tyrod Taylor justin fields, though says he wants to and I think expects to play a lot in the preseason, but sometimes the physical approach is not the best thing. As we're taping, we're getting some breaking news that I might have even had a little higher in the rundown, but it's perfect right here. The NFL has suspended Jordan Addison without pay for the first three games of the twenty twenty five season for violating the NFL's Substances of Abuse policy. This is not a surprise to Vikings fans or completely to Addison. This has been hanging over his head because there was a DUI citation that he had last year and it took a while to go through the courts. He was speeding. He had a couple of speeding tickets too, And yeah, that's that's a reminder that this Vikings offense, which has a pretty easy schedule early in the season, huh, Colleen, Uh huh. You know, Jordan Daddison is one of the best number twos in the league right now. Justin Jefferson is out with a hamstring injury. It's expected he'll be back and he'll be fine plenty of time. But like, let's just say that injury popped up in the regular season or something suddenly, like it's going to be hard to win games with Jalen Naylor as your number one wide receiver and I don't even know who you know what I mean, Well, at number two, that's a big loss.

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Speaker 2: And essentially a rookie quarterback, like a quarterbacks who's in his second year but starting for the first time. And JJ McCarthy, like, you want to have everything available for him. Sam Darnold did, and that's how he was able to do what he did. But now you have someone with no experience and you're down a guy like an important piece of the offense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not correct, and great.

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Speaker 1: There's I don't have any guess of like what they were expecting of the suspension. I think anywhere between one and four would have been possible. So it yeah, sort of on the upper region. It's three. Maybe he'll try to appeal it and get it down to two. But looking at the Vikings early this season, as I mentioned, the defense especially, I think is going to feel good about the schedule early in the season at Bears home for Falcons, home for the Bengals. That's a tough one, and then at Pittsburgh at Cleveland before the bye. Overall a manageable schedule, but no Jordan Addison for those first.

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Speaker 2: I think it's just going to be tougher for Justin Jefferson at that point because he kind of opens things.

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Speaker 3: Up for him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't think they really have a true number two, but they do have TJ. Howkinson at tight end, who's also had some injuries in been in and out of practice. All Right, just a couple of quick items and then we're going to get to Connie's travels. The Eagles had a trade on Monday night.

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Speaker 3: How about that?

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Speaker 1: Shout out to our friends Bo Wolf and Zach Berman on the show last night All pho y. They had an emergency podcast at like eleven pm Eastern. You guys producing this show, thank you guys have it bad. They did an emergency podcast at eleven pm Eastern for a trade of Thomas Booker, their fourth or fifth string defensive tackle for Jacory and Bennett of the Raiders, who was probably their cornerback four. We did a podcast on Mother's Day about Derek Carr retiring. I win.

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Speaker 3: I love spicy Eric so much, need more of it.

00:12:37
Speaker 1: I love it. Great call.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, what are we doing here? It's sure it helps both teams and the Raiders needed some depth after releasing Christian Wilkins, and you know they need some. The Eagles need some experience in that cornerback room too.

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Speaker 1: I kind of like Jacry and Bennett. He is my type of receiver or cornerback who just moves really fluidly and well thought. He had a lot of good reps as a rookie. This is actually a rare trade this time of year. Usually it's guys who like aren't even going to make the team. Both of these guys have an opportunity to have decent sized roles for their new teams. I'm not saying Bennett will, but they'll throw them in the mix and see if he can actually get snaps there. I think it shows a little bit of concern from their cornerback position. To Browns added a sixth quarterback to the roster, which is outrageous because de Shaun Watson still counting he's on their roster. Tyler Huntley is there, which probably says that Dylan Gabriel and or Kenny Pickett and or Shadoor Sanders aren't going to be ready to play in that preseason game. They just need someone to take some snaps in the second half. But I mean, Tyler Huntley might be better than a couple of them, certainly better than Dylan Gabriel. Keenan Allen and the Chargers met. The meeting reportedly went well. It supposedly, in my mind, is going to lead to a signing at some point, but we'll talk about that when it happens. And then Teddy Bridgewater signed with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to you know what, Teddy's going back.

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Speaker 3: It's great.

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Speaker 2: I was so surprised last year when he signed with who was he with last year in.

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Speaker 1: The Troy at the end, Yeah, and he came in for a couple of plays.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like I remember when he came in and I was like, wait, Teddy Bridgewater, how long has Teddy Bridgewater been still in the league. This doesn't make sense because he had just won that like high school coaching championship wherever he was before. Yes, and I loved that they signed him, like that's kind of a great idea just in case.

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Speaker 1: And now he's back and he's in an amazing situation with the Bucks where he can be the backup to Baker Mayfield. I'm thrilled about this. As a huge Teddy fan, Dan Campbell was talking about possibly signing him too, back to the lines if it didn't work out there, but he had Okay. Dan Campbell in a press conference said he talks to Teddy Bridgewater every day and I was like, really, I mean I don't have to talk to mind my mom more than not even close to every day, and him and Teddy are talking every day. I want that sort of male friendship in my life.

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Speaker 2: I mean, listen, are they texting or talking? Because I think that that could be a little bit talking different. That's that's incredible.

00:15:08
Speaker 3: Then. I don't know how Dan Campbell's managing is to.

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Speaker 1: People inside the NFL love to talk on the phone. They're not. I feel like maybe it's the generational thing, but they're just like they'll call a bunch of people and have like a one or two minute conversation. It's It's one of the things I'm most jealous of. Like executives and people in the NFL, they're able to have like extremely quick conversations. I'm not able to do that.

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Speaker 3: Just every phone conversation is a long.

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Speaker 1: Maybe not lots of night or like when someone comes into the office in hard Knocks, like they wrap up so much in like eighty seconds. I've never had a situation where I've walked into an office or if I had an office, someone walked in and like gotten in and out in like nineties. That's what you gotta do, Greg, That's my goal for the second half of my life. Okay, assuming I have a half to go, I mean, that's a waste.

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Speaker 3: I think. I think you do.

00:15:55
Speaker 1: I bring it back more than a half and more breaking news that is not breaking to the people listening to this, because you know we're taping ahead of time. Shoulder Sanders, who I just talked about, is expected to start in the Browns preseason. Oh, they're gonna give him some real run. And Joe Flacco, they figure, hey, we know, we know what we got.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited to watch Sador. Yeah, to see I want to see what that looks like.

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Speaker 1: More pop and by all accounts, people there like he's made a lot of the best throws in Browns camp, He's flashed. He's obviously to me, a more talented and I would guess just better football player than Dylan Gabriel, who's their third round pick, and he's the fifth round pick. If you just flipped them, that'd be fine. It would make more sense to me. I'd like to see him more than Kenny Pickett. Of course, to me, rolling with Flacco and chaudor that that to me seems like your duo.

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Speaker 2: I would imagine everything that went down at the draft too, just makes like lights of fire under him.

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Speaker 3: Well, just from a competitive standpoint.

00:16:57
Speaker 1: No lies told. You know, you know who's competing out there on streets.

00:17:00
Speaker 2: Who's that? Connie Wolf?

00:17:03
Speaker 1: Connie Fox. You're you're out, you're traveling. You did the inside training camp thing. You did it so fun this year, flew all around. Why was it more fun this year?

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Speaker 2: I don't know why it was more fun this year. Maybe because there was only a couple locations that were unbearably hot and as in just Philadelphia, but I was there twice.

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Speaker 3: It was so god awful, Judy.

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Speaker 2: I was there one day with Judy Batista, and I felt a little nauseous from the heat. I know that the Eagles ended up like moving their practice up even because.

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Speaker 3: It was just so hot, but I mean, come on, that's part of training camp.

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Speaker 1: What were some of your big takeaways, okay, from your time on the road.

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Speaker 2: Big takeaways were, First of all, I'm sitting at the bar in Philly Hotel bar, just trying to get some food, and I hear someone behind me talking and I say to myself, it sounds like Big Dumb, but like Colleen, come on, not everyone in Philadelphia sounds like Big Dom. And then I look to my left and he's like Colleen, and I'm like Dom. And so that was super fun because I've known him since two thousand and eight, so he's been my guy. And he brought me over to the table that had like the whole Eagles, all of like the head scouts, uh and personnel guys.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Dave Caldwell was there, former.

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Speaker 2: Jags GM now with the Eagles, Yeah, from way back when. So got some interesting background on a lot of different things. That's all I can say right now.

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Speaker 1: But for the Eagles, Robin Elbow's talking with Big Dom in a Philly bar behind the scene. Now it's possible, like is he just in every I feel like that's a feature of Philadelphia. You just go to a bar and there and Big Doms is there well, and for you, it's like if you go to Disney World, like you'll see Mickey. I feel like that's what Big Dom is in Philadelphia. We actually had a question as part of our mail back Big Dom, so we might as well just let's just do it here. We'll throw it up because it shows the picture of Big d look at you on the Eagles website and it is an outrageous picture. The question is from a great listener, Brad Beatson who his question was about Big Dom and it was will Big Dom add another title before the season kicked off? And he didn't mean Super Bowl title. He will get another ring, they'll have that that well, I guess he got the ring, but they'll have the ceremony with the banner before week one. But his title right now is Senior Advisor to the General Manager slash Chief Security Officer slash game day Coaching Operation.

00:19:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the game day coaching operations.

00:19:44
Speaker 3: That was a new title.

00:19:45
Speaker 1: That was added just this year, right to avoid more fines.

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Speaker 3: Right exactly. So I'm not gonna lie.

00:19:52
Speaker 2: I think that he has a lot more influence on things than people might think.

00:19:57
Speaker 1: Wow, maybe slash like pizza maker some like that.

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Speaker 2: More than that, but he could probably he knows some people that can make them Me and pizza okay, Yeah. And you know, if you need anything taken care of at all, he could probably help you out.

00:20:12
Speaker 1: You want to crass all right? What else did you learn on your trip? So?

00:20:16
Speaker 2: I loved my trip to Denver with the Broncos. That was really enlightening. They really love their running back, their rookie running back RJ.

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Speaker 3: Harvey.

00:20:29
Speaker 2: They're super high on him. Evan Ingram Obviously he's looking really good too. But they think that this team is of course, like incredibly good. And you never know what's going to happen. But based on last year, I talked with a couple of the very high up ranking members of the Broncos and they just gush about Bonnicks first of all, and now you have all of like Courtland Sutton now that he's got his deal in place and he has such a great connection with Bonis.

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Speaker 3: I don't know there's.

00:21:08
Speaker 1: Man, now, it's just happening. Jordan had a big thing that maybe they could win the Super Bowl last week, and then Sean Payon actually is trying to speak it into existence. Literally on Monday at the podium, he said, this team can win the Super Bowl.

00:21:22
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, so he told me that too.

00:21:23
Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: But I think their first preseason game is against the Niners. So their whole thing is start the preseason, their first game here against the Niners in Santa Clara, and end the season Santa Clara for the super Bowl.

00:21:43
Speaker 1: And it'll be Drake Greenlaw and Tallanea who fung a revenge game for the preow. It won't be you know, too much revenge being taken in early August, but I'm sure those two would love to be in their former home stadium. Yes, for the Super Bowl. All right, I'm uncomfortable, but maybe that's just how I'm wired that if everyone is two in one someone, I'm like, oh, they're not cool anymore.

00:22:07
Speaker 2: But and Jade Baron their crown pick. He apparently crushed it at the Rookie Show. If anyone about that, he has an incredible personality and he went in front of everyone and sang.

00:22:24
Speaker 3: Dreams and nightmares.

00:22:26
Speaker 2: So did a little meek Mill and like they said, absolutely, like just brought the house down.

00:22:31
Speaker 1: I think the correctterm would be wrapped. I don't think you'd like sing a meek Mill song.

00:22:36
Speaker 3: Okay, well he's an artist, Greg.

00:22:41
Speaker 1: Any other nuggets from your trip.

00:22:44
Speaker 2: Let's see when we were in When I was in Ashbourne with the commanders, a very funny moment when we were talking to Deebo Samuel. I was off to the side because I was like, you guys, there was three of us. Oh, I wanted to like share the interviews. So I was just watching off to the side and it was Mark Ross and Mike Garrifolo interviewing him. So he comes and he sits down, Deebo does, and Garifolo goes to, like, you know, dap him up, give him a little fitzpound and he's like, ah, sorry, man, like I jamm my finger today.

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Speaker 3: And so then Mike does the whole interview and at.

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Speaker 2: The very end he goes, yeah, when Deebo came over here, I went to go give him fist pound and he was like, ah no, like little jam finger.

00:23:29
Speaker 3: So I hope your finger feels better. Devo's face was like.

00:23:35
Speaker 1: Like gave him a death stare and yes, I want to find this clip. Oh it's so good. It's so good.

00:23:42
Speaker 2: And Garifolo's like what what was I not supposed to say that? And so I'm like dying laughing in the background, and Deebo is still just like staring at him, like what the hell? Man? So they cut away and then finally Debo gave him a fist pound but like left air Folo hanging, so it really looked like he did not.

00:24:04
Speaker 3: But it was quite awkward and he was not happy.

00:24:07
Speaker 1: People get worried about the injury stuff. Also, you don't want to mess with the guy who was nicknamed Deebo, Like that was exactly not It wasn't born Debo, he became Debo.

00:24:15
Speaker 3: Right, That's that's how it works.

00:24:17
Speaker 1: Do not cross that man that was Connie's travels.

00:24:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure there were other things that happened.

00:24:23
Speaker 1: But Philadelphia, you know you talked Big Dom we'll get in.

00:24:27
Speaker 3: A slightly stupid concert.

00:24:29
Speaker 1: What is that? I don't even know who?

00:24:30
Speaker 2: Slightly stupid? It's like a there's sort of like a reggae ish band.

00:24:35
Speaker 1: Should I should know this? I don't know this. I'm going to learn about it. But first we're going to take a little break and we're gonna come back and we're gonna get all your questions in the mail bag. It's nice to you travel, but it's nicer you're back here.

00:24:48
Speaker 2: I feel better, keep tracking anchored here, back.

00:24:59
Speaker 1: On NFL daily, And yeah, Tuesday is my favorite day, especially this week we have some really good, meaty shows. I feel like this is just a nice refreshing palate cleanser in the middle of the week. We take from of your questions I was getting. I was getting more questions. What do you guys got to do? A mailbag? And so here we are.

00:25:17
Speaker 3: I love a mailbag.

00:25:18
Speaker 1: The first one, the first question kind of bummed me out, but I needed to talk to my friend Walter. Wasn't aware of him before this this tweet or whatever you want to call it on Blue Sky, but he's a Lions fan and his question was so sad. We have to lead with has the Lions window closed? I mean, oh man, First of all, I don't really believe in windows anyways for good organizations, of which the Lions are one. I know that's hard to believe because you know the ownership's not totally different or whatever, but they're good. Secondly, they've improved every season significantly. They won fifteen games last year and we're still in the divisional despite like all the injuries in the world and all the excuses, like the offense still kept making it.

00:26:05
Speaker 3: Happen number one seed in the NFC.

00:26:08
Speaker 1: I would I would go as far to say, as if this season doesn't go as well, and you're getting a vibe from the Lions like, well, we don't care as much about the regular season now if you could just fast forward us to the playoffs and we're eleven and six and we're the five seed, Like, we'll take that because all that matters is the playoffs. And that's a dangero. It's a little bit of a dangerous place to be. But if they did take a step back this season because the schedule sits up and everything, it's like, no, I think the window like why would the window be even remotely closing anytime soon? The coach the front office are awesome, Like, there's so many good young players on the roster. I know Jared Goff isn't the youngest quarterback, but he's not the oldest either, Like, but.

00:26:45
Speaker 2: Also he's kind of like the offensive coordinator a little bit on the field, So right, like it's that's a good thing.

00:26:50
Speaker 1: It's wide open, is my point. Like, Yeah, there's gonna be ups, there's gonna be downs, but you got to get over the old Lions thing. I guess that's that it's hard to overcome.

00:26:59
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure that's this is the first time that they've been experiencing success since ever when.

00:27:07
Speaker 1: Like since before the merger, before since like it wasn't really the NFL and they're winning some titles in the forties or whatever. H Literally, this is the greatest Lions era ever, like in the modern era, so quit far, just the last couple of years. But like, yeah, I don't believe in that window stuff.

00:27:24
Speaker 2: No, but I think that they do have a point to be concerned about the coordinator turnover. But like, also you have John Morton, who he was with the team before, but this was before they were experiencing like this success. I think he was there in twenty twenty two and then he was under Sean Payton, who is an incredible offensive mine. So this is not like he was going around to different RANDO teams and learning from other people who don't really have the experience. And also Kelvin Sheppard as a DC, who knows how that's going to go. But he was already in the building and he already has a picked.

00:28:06
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson wanted to take him. They all wanted to take him with him. Maarreon wanted to.

00:28:09
Speaker 2: Take it exactly so he learned under him, So I wouldn't be so worried about that.

00:28:15
Speaker 1: The important thing here is the players are awesome. Right the offensive line, there's some questions, but you still have Pine Sewell and Taylor Decker who you love. You still have Jamison Williams and I'm on Rye like these rookie receivers. You still have Sam Laporta, you still have like maybe the best backfield league. You have Aiden Hutchinson, everyone's going absolutely crazy about. You have a lot of young players, including Brian Branch like in the secondary, like just nothing to worry about. It did register to me though, that the NBC crew doing the Hall of Fame game. Sometimes you can pick up a little something from what Chris Collins were said, you could tell, but what by what he said from his conversations with the Lions that they are sick of hearing about Ben Johnson that they don't that they probably think Ben Johnson's impact on the Lions. I'm guessing this is Dan Campbell was like a little overrated and like everyone thinking that they're all gonna fall flat on their face because oh, big brain Ben Johnson's gone, Well, I'm Dan Campbell and I got my big muscles and we're gonna win some games, So don't worry. Walter.

00:29:08
Speaker 3: Is this the new Tom Brady or Bill Belichick debate?

00:29:12
Speaker 1: That is funny, But yeah, I'd rather have all the players and.

00:29:17
Speaker 3: Ed Johnson and his big brain and Dan Campbell.

00:29:20
Speaker 1: Not that they didn't all get along, but I get that. I think they probably are sick of those questions. There were a lot of these types of questions, and so let's go to the question about Micah Parsons, and it was what would a trade for Micah Parsons look like? This is from meat Breath, and he suggests Arizona because they got some cap room and they'd be aggressive. Yeah, and they're I think at the right time of the team build. That makes sense. I haven't dove too deep into this because I just don't think he's going to get traded of like the types of teams that are going to trade for him, because I just don't think the Cowboys are going to listen. But if they were, just to answer the question, what would it look like, I think the Cowboys would really want a player back that mattered, yes, And so I was trying to think of different teams. I don't know how the Bills could make the money work, but like, could you do Greg Russo a first and a third or something like that, or if you're there, I don't think that's enough. If you were the Bears, could you do Montes Sweat a first and a second like something like that where a legitimate player is actually coming to the back to the Cowboys in addition to draft stock, because I know people look back at these old trades calling like and compare them to like Khalil Mack got this.

00:30:36
Speaker 3: That's exactly what I was thinking. You got two first rounders.

00:30:41
Speaker 1: I and I know the cap has gone up, but Kleiar Mack wasn't making forty million dollars a year. The percentage of the cap for these top pass rushes is even crazier now that you have to pay Michael Parkson's that much money. I think that brings the cost down just so slowly. And by the way, I just gave you like a plus very good starter plus first round pick play like that's that's still a lot, you know what.

00:31:03
Speaker 2: The Ravens, maybe that would be potentially interesting if pursued him, But.

00:31:10
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that you would have to do.

00:31:12
Speaker 2: I don't know if they would go for anything less than two first rounders.

00:31:16
Speaker 1: I agree with that. I guess when I think of like a guy like a Russo or a Sweat, that's like a borderline first yeah, right there, and to me, it should be at least that much because you're kind of guaranteed, you know that they're already good players. The Ravens is spicy, But again, I said this on the first show about Mica. I just don't think they're going to want to trade him for picks when those picks like aren't going to help you this season. That's true, you want to win this season. Dave asks a sad question this time of year. But when I often think about it was just who's the worst team you got any picks?

00:31:47
Speaker 3: The worst team, I guess it would be the Titans.

00:31:50
Speaker 1: Right they're in the mix there in the in the in in Las Vegas the favorites to have the worst record in the league. Now, this is a little bit different than worse team because you have to take into account schedule.

00:32:02
Speaker 3: Is it in the AFC South, No, it is.

00:32:06
Speaker 1: The Browns and the Saints are tied for the most likely teams to be the worst, and the Titans weren't even third. It might have been the Panthers. They're up there. They're kind of like a sneaky could be bad team. There's not a lot of really obvious bad teams. My choice is the Browns.

00:32:26
Speaker 3: You'd go with the Browns.

00:32:27
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:32:28
Speaker 3: God, they have six quarterbacks right now.

00:32:31
Speaker 1: It's comically bad and the quarterbacks is the biggest part of it. And I know they have Miles Garrett and Denzel Ward like they have some players, but the skill positions are not good. The offensive line, which has been good, has real big questions now at tackle. I think they have problems all over the place, which is kind of why I can't believe that Andrew Berry, their GM has apparently so much job security. I don't really believe it, though. I think if they go four and thirteen their schedule, they're gonna change schedule. Stuugh schedules rough like.

00:33:01
Speaker 3: They have the Lions in there and the Vikings. Obviously their own division.

00:33:05
Speaker 1: Is so tough. Yeah, it's a bummer to think about. But I think the Panthers are a sneaky choice for this option too. Yeah, because everyone thinks it's on the up because it gots better, but get got better last year. But you know, I think it's a pretty thin roster overall.

00:33:20
Speaker 2: I don't know.

00:33:21
Speaker 3: I think that they're going to get a little bit better, I hope.

00:33:23
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't think I'm gonna pick that, but I think it's possible, like some team could just completely blow up, like the Dolphins a bit on my raider is like a team that could just completely blow up. I don't you know, they'll probably take.

00:33:33
Speaker 2: It to it, and I think that they are really going to implode the Dolphins, Like that's not even a question in my head. I'm I'm worried about how spectacularly they're going to.

00:33:46
Speaker 1: Honestly, wow, yeah so that they think you think they could be one of the worst teams in the league.

00:33:50
Speaker 2: I don't know, one of the worst, but they're they're not going to be any I think they're just going to keep getting worse, they do have.

00:33:57
Speaker 1: A lot of talent. The one thing with the A East is I think the out of division schedules are are pretty good. Okay, but you and you get the Jets twice, you get the Patriots twice. Patriots, you know, are okay, but yeah, they're not any world beaters. But I feel you I agree with you on that one. The next question is from Josh, what chance is there that Travis Hunter is better than Brian Thomas Junior?

00:34:22
Speaker 2: Immediately, immediately, No, he's so good, but he's he's taking on so much learning the playbook, going to all of the meetings for both sides. If you heard him describe what his schedule was, I couldn't even I got lost immediately.

00:34:43
Speaker 1: Like he he's now doing the thing where he's practicing on both sides on the same day. So he's graduated to.

00:34:47
Speaker 3: That exactly, which I mean.

00:34:49
Speaker 2: He must just be such a genius to be able to take all of this information in retain it, and then be able to differentiate in such a quick nature of like the game. The game moves so fast, and it moves so much quicker when you go from college to pros. So I think that there might be a little bit of a learning curve. Maybe eventually and maybe even this year eventually. Okay, that Travis Hunter is better than Brian Thomas Junior, but not right out of the gate.

00:35:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, when I read immediately, I think by the end of the year maybe, But that's a good point. He's talking maybe more September. I was really high Brian Thomas Junior because he just moves different. I'm not a scout, but you watch a guy that big move the way he moves, and I was just like, I think this is probably gonna work. Yeah, and it really did. That said Travis Hunter is a way but was a way better wide receiver prospect coming out of college. And what you said about the game going so fast and his smarts, I think that's such an awesome point because that's what stands out to me watching his tape in colleges. The game seems to go so slow for him, whereas I think he processes just a natural football intelligence in addition to all the study that he obviously must do at a way that is next level, you know, on top of his athletic gifts, and you hear from training camp like things are starting to slid down. I love that they released the the depth charts and he's a starter at wide receiver and a backup at cornerback. Right now, it's just like, it's so cool, so cool.

00:36:19
Speaker 3: I do love that, but it's just so impressive.

00:36:21
Speaker 2: He was talking about how just from being around the game for so long and playing from the time he was so young, that it's all just such second nature. But I think to myself, Okay, but there's so many other players that have also just only been playing football from the time that they could almost walk. And it's this is not like this is literally never one to one comparison.

00:36:43
Speaker 1: It's never happened, at least in the current modern NFL. So I'm going to answer the question what chance percentage wise? And I didn't have a Brian Thomas junior this year in terms of like a prospect that I was just so high on felt higher consensus. I felt so because it was Travis Hunter, and like everyone thinks Travis Hunter is amazing, I'm not on an island there, but I do think he's the type of amazing that it's going to translate immediately, And so I'm putting the percentage at like sixty WHOA really, I just think I truly believe he is going to be incredible, Like he is going to be a top you know, ten to fifteen receiver by the end of the year. When he says immediately, I'm thinking during the rookie year. But yeah, I think he'll be right there and that they'll just have one of the best combinations.

00:37:27
Speaker 2: I think that I'm actually trying to Maybe he doesn't get.

00:37:31
Speaker 1: The volume because he has to play defense and all that stuff, but I do think he's.

00:37:34
Speaker 2: Ooh, this is interesting because they have the Panthers first, and then the Bengals and then the Texans.

00:37:42
Speaker 1: At AFC South schedule. There's a lot of good eating in the defenses you play, except for the text.

00:37:46
Speaker 2: All right, I'll say thirty percent even that's high.

00:37:48
Speaker 1: I mean, Brian Thomas Junior is awesome, but we're I'm just a big believer in Travis Hunter. Clive asks who are the top five coaches of the last twenty five years? So I prepared for this one. I did some re search. I think Belichick and Reader won two in that order.

00:38:04
Speaker 4: Yea.

00:38:04
Speaker 1: But if you wanted to make the argument how big of an impact Reid made on offenses in his time with Philadelphia, like I could even listen to that. After that gets tricky. I went Sean Payton, Mike Tomlin, and then.

00:38:19
Speaker 3: What about like Bill Parcells.

00:38:21
Speaker 1: Well, he's not really the last twenty five years. I mean, he did coach within the last twenty five years, but his peak was before that. So some guys got a little cut off. There were good like Marty Schottenheimer his career I would have considered for this list, but his peak is before two thousand, even though he had some good teams after that. So I'm only considering the last twenty five years. So the fifth spot, I thought about Pete Carroll, I thought about John Harbaugh. You could have either Shanahan Mike Shannan would be on this list if you could count the eighties, but you can't. I don't think it's crazy to think about Sean McVay there. In terms of impact and just how good he is. I think I would maybe even take him over Pete Carroll and John Harbo. The numbers, you know what the numbers would tell you, like wins, playoff appearances, playoff wins, win percentage, all that, Like John Harbus should be on this list.

00:39:07
Speaker 2: Well, I was thinking about John Harball. I mean, and then if you could just put a last name on there, Shanahan, Harbor.

00:39:14
Speaker 1: That's fair, that's true. So kick Tomlin out and then we put Shanahan the family in Harbor And sorry, mcbabe, Yeah, you haven't been around as long exactly.

00:39:24
Speaker 2: So, by the way, when you brought up Marty Schottenheimer, when I was with the Cowboys and Oxnard, we were talking to Shaddy and he was saying, we found out that he used to for years and years and years and years carry this card in his wallet, and the card he had written on there that his goal was to be the youngest head coach in the National Football League. Wow.

00:39:50
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he said that.

00:39:51
Speaker 2: Eventually he took it out when he realized that wasn't going to happen, But he said it was such a blessing that it didn't happen because he wouldn't have been ready, and now he's in such a better spot. But I just thought that was so interesting and also adorable.

00:40:07
Speaker 1: So when Sean McVay got hired by the Rams, however old he was somewhere that day, Brian, Shaan that mother. Sorry, I don't know why, I just was imagining I should have gotten Himer with his backwards because well, Sean McVay was like thirty one of them. Sean McVay still you.

00:40:25
Speaker 3: He's a baby.

00:40:26
Speaker 2: I don't know how old he was, but I should have asked him where he put the cart? Did he throw it away? Did he put it in the little special box?

00:40:33
Speaker 1: It could be viewed as a sad story, but he got there, and I think he's got to do as good job as he can do.

00:40:39
Speaker 3: I sneaky liked the Cowboys.

00:40:41
Speaker 4: I like his baggage.

00:40:46
Speaker 1: Mark asked Greg, you frequently cite all these team specific podcasts you listen to, but are you're also an avid reader who is said to have a healthy work life? Who is said that? Who says that? How many hours are in a Greg day? Wow?

00:41:00
Speaker 3: Yeah you know what, Mark? Absolutely, I want to know this.

00:41:04
Speaker 1: I don't know how work balance not as healthy as I would like it to be during the season. Okay, I mean I definitely do my best.

00:41:11
Speaker 3: Now, are you kids like me?

00:41:13
Speaker 1: Audio? I do listen to audiobooks, not that much. I would say, like one out of seven books I read is an audiobook.

00:41:21
Speaker 2: What was the book that you had on tape when we picked up Steve Smith and me and a bunch of other people from the network jumped in your car.

00:41:30
Speaker 1: Yeah. That was a biography of the author Jean Reese, who I really love. I usually don't get that dorky that like an academic Jean rees She's amazing, like I think, like British slash sort of Jamaican author and very depressing. But it was about her life. Yeah, it was like like early early last century. I would say, okay, great, Yeah, yeah, that was embarrassing. Not the Worklate, I've kind of cut out, like you have to some things go. TV and movies have taken a big hit.

00:42:05
Speaker 2: Oh man, I never kind I never watched it kind of gone.

00:42:09
Speaker 1: And then the deepest specific podcast I do listen. Like there's very little time when I'm like just doing like in my life where I'm not listening to a podcast. I feel like I'm like when I'm around the house, I'm always listening to a podcast. Or are you going like the grocery store, I'm listening to a podcast. If I'm doing any sort of like like the pulse, I'm just saying I'm like brushing my teeth, or you're going outside and then you do the one point five speed or whatever.

00:42:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just there's never a time where you're just in silence.

00:42:37
Speaker 1: There's not a lot of that, because that's where that's my favorite show. The conversation that we had a few weeks ago comes in where you start to face the void.

00:42:46
Speaker 3: See, I love I like to sit in the void. It's comfortable.

00:42:50
Speaker 1: I do sometimes. And that is what I read about off It. I mean, like that's sort of the number one subject I would stay say of literature in general, is like everyone's to die sometimes. Yeah, I think that's like the number one topic I love. Do you think. I mean, it's not always directly that, but I do think it's talking about the human experience, you know, of having that knowledge while you live, because it's kind of like the thing that makes humans so unique. That and apparently that we can gossip about each other behind like each other's backs, with no other animals are able to do.

00:43:27
Speaker 3: Oh god, I never thought of that.

00:43:30
Speaker 1: Well neither did I. But I'm reading slash listening to the very popular book Sapiens because the Oh yeah, our friend Chris Westling, who this podcast is named after, carry that book around and loved that book. It was recommended to him by Henry Hodson. I found this out just over the last couple of weeks. I mentioned Akeisha, I finally picked up He loved that book so much. It really blew his mind, and I always wanted to read. I was like, eventually I will read it, and now I'm reading it. I like to read books sometimes that he was in you feel that I might try it on too. That's very like, you know, academic and stuff. But I just read. I read. I read novels.

00:44:13
Speaker 3: I just like books.

00:44:14
Speaker 2: When like Anthony Bourdain's telling me about what kitchens are like and how he got into the BIS and all of the crazy stories.

00:44:21
Speaker 1: But I also would say, with that time stuff, I don't know how old. Uh Marcus who asked? But to paraphrase Mike Gundy, the great Oklahoma state head coach, like I'm a man, I'm forty, and uh, I feel like your forties. This is an idea I've been Okay, they are your prime and I agree. I don't mean like physically obviously, but I do think it's probably the decade you're peaking in the sense that you can handle the most and do the most, like all things like family, work life. I think you're just sort of ready for like, if you're like, you're like going up and like now you're in it more than any other time. That's how I feel in the middle of my forties. I'm saying I can handle it better than I ever that I certainly would have been in my thirties or twenties, or even in my fifties.

00:45:16
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to do my twenties or thirties over again. I'm much happier where I am right now. I feel like I could handle things way better.

00:45:26
Speaker 1: I totally agree. I've always like getting older. At some point that'll probably that'll probably stop. No, why there's the there's the movie. Yeah. I think my dad, for instance, is having the best time of his life right now, and so is my.

00:45:38
Speaker 2: Dad for Yeah, this is this is what we could all do. We don't have to complain again getting about getting old.

00:45:44
Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting to take this big of detour. But you know the movie, you know, the movie Garden State, Yes, which is somewhat famous for I think rightly being not as rewatch it Like when you watch it now, you're like, oh, this didn't age well. Natalie Portman, Natalie Portman, Zach Braf. There's some things that are problematic about it. But there is a part of the book where he's talking to her or I forget, or she's talking to him I think it actually is, and she's talking about you're in it. You know, you're in it right now, which is like a lot's happening in his life, is personal life and everything, and that is like a time in your life when a bunch of different things are happening and you're almost like alive to everything around you in a way that almost feels uncomfortable.

00:46:23
Speaker 3: Those are the moments where you grow the most.

00:46:26
Speaker 1: I feel like the forties are the closest to you're in it as like a time of life. At least that's been my experience. Yeah, especially you know the kids are now ten and thirteen. It's like it's just all happening.

00:46:37
Speaker 2: That's why people have midlife crisis when they turn forty, because they're like, oh my god, I'm in it and this is not what I want it to be when I was in it, So got to make some change.

00:46:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like my five tattoos I've gotten in life like five years, it says you're right now.

00:46:51
Speaker 3: My nose fears last year, Like what are we doing?

00:46:54
Speaker 1: It does feel great and it's a fun day. I want to get another. I want to get are here. All right, let's let's I through a few more. Let's let's do a speed round and then say goodbye. What former current NFL player would have the best energy to join the CEU next Tuesday team?

00:47:08
Speaker 3: Great question, Jordan Mylotta would be great.

00:47:12
Speaker 1: Oh that's a good one. Yeah, this is from John by the way, John Byrne, I immediately thought of like, well, people we knowsh Lynch would be fun, like Steve Smith. I don't know him personally, but you do. Yeah, I feel like he's someone we actually maybe we get him. I think Kobe Turner, who we've had on the show, I feel like adds a nice sunny vibe. We did a show with a Mina Kimes and him too, so now we've met him twice and just feel like I know him a little bit. Yeah, he would add a nice vibe. And then people I don't know. C J. Stroud to me is such a ball knower and has just a great ballner. I think you would add a lot of knowledge. But also goodbye, like he's unique. Jay R. Alexander is just out in left field. He would be fun. And then I thought someone that I like but it wouldn't fit would be Todd Bowles. He's too serious.

00:47:57
Speaker 3: Oh, I just for some reason I thought threw me off there.

00:48:04
Speaker 1: Who would be a really funny person to just have on this desk every single week? And it'd just be Todd Bowles over there. I don't know it's being like he'd be cool. I think he's chill, but it just would be I don't know if it work.

00:48:16
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure, but who knows.

00:48:19
Speaker 1: Like Shroud I think would be great.

00:48:20
Speaker 2: Stroud would be good, I think too. MJD's always I love MJD. Joe Thomas, like the guys we've worked with. It's an unfair advantage, but we know that it would be great. So yeah, MJD would be would be amazing. Charlie Weber asked how much concern should there be for the Packers cornerback room. Maybe this happened after the Nate hob surgery.

00:48:40
Speaker 1: Maybe not. Their top cornerback by the way, is undergoing surgery and is expected to potentially be back for week one. I have no concern. Actually, I feel better about that room now than I did at the beginning of camp because of the reports coming out, and I think they have a pretty good group. They brought back one of their former players as well to kind of fill in while Nate Hobbs is out. But I'm not that concerned. Is calling in on the Colts. We hit that judging on reports out of camp, what free agent has had the will have the biggest impact. It's a really good question, you know. I was thinking about, like my list of free agencies. Yeah, I hope it's Milton Williams. We haven't heard a lot about Milton Williams, but they could really use a pass rush on him. Combining with Christian Barmour would be big.

00:49:24
Speaker 3: That would be awesome. I like that one. Yeah, I don't know. I feel like this is something I need to marinate in for that.

00:49:31
Speaker 1: That's a tough one. I should I want to think about that from you on that if you counted Zac Bond because technically he actually you know, got to that's true, that that would.

00:49:41
Speaker 2: I'm also I'm still on the last one. I'm like ed Reid would be an amazing ad to a two stations.

00:49:45
Speaker 1: Edid is like two on his own planet that I don't think integrate him. Could you into the rest of the group. Uh, you know what's a great pick up was the Colts Tarvarius Ward. I think is a sneaky answer for this.

00:50:00
Speaker 2: Also the guys maybe that the Broncos brought in that we mentioned earlier, like Drake Greenlaw, that could be one.

00:50:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, coach Finstock asks, and he's one of the best follows on Twitter, I mean on a blue sky. Rather, how far can the Rams go with Jimmy g playing quarterback? Not very far. I think that would really make them a no. A team that's not going to make the playoffs. Win some games, But I think that's a big enough problem that it's not going to happen. The next question from Brett, let's give britt Drake me a competent offensive line. What's his ceiling? I think it could be a ceiling is like a top ten.

00:50:34
Speaker 3: Quarterback this year they're making the playoffs.

00:50:38
Speaker 1: That's his ceiling. But I mean that's pretty Yeah, you're talking about ceiling. I mean physically, Yeah, that was a great rookie year. Like why can't like Justin Herbert was a top ten quarterback as a rookie year.

00:50:48
Speaker 3: Stefan Diggs there, now he looked good.

00:50:50
Speaker 1: Uh, huh, he has they have other issues. Yeah. There was another Patriots question where he was like, Massachusetts is panicking. What's happened with Carlton Davis and Morgan Moses? Did they strike out in free agency? I was like, don't panic. Don't listen to the sports radio in Massachusetts. It's just stupid.

00:51:07
Speaker 2: They spent so much money. Don't in the offseason.

00:51:10
Speaker 1: Don't none of that. Like, Okay, Morgan Moses is like being wrapped up. Who this doesn't matter. Our last one is from T Shane and he asked Justin Fields has been dreadful, and Jets skided, I don't know if that's totally true. If he's awful in two weeks, should we explore a move for Kirk Cousins.

00:51:26
Speaker 2: Oh, that honestly feels like something that coulden.

00:51:31
Speaker 3: It's dark though kirk Cousins gets sent.

00:51:34
Speaker 1: Be patient. Wait, it'd be too far off of what I think Aaron Glenn wants to do. So that the the Blue Sky name of this gentleman who asking said Jets should tank for Leonoris and I think that's fine. Don't be trying to win one or two extra games with Kirk Cousins. Just see how this works and if it doesn't work out, you'll have a high pick.

00:51:54
Speaker 3: And you think Cousins is going to want to go there.

00:51:57
Speaker 1: I think he'd like to play football again and go Penix gets hurt. That's not happening. We'll be doing this again. You're back next week. We're getting the whole crew back together. Jordan rod Reeg. We already have the plan for next week.

00:52:10
Speaker 2: We do.

00:52:11
Speaker 1: We're going to do a rerun of our very popular show last year. I can fix Him, So think about who, uh, who's going to get fixed? Not coldplay style like I can fix him?

00:52:23
Speaker 3: No, this is fun. That's a great one.

00:52:25
Speaker 1: So what we're doing that next week, looking forward to that and looking forward to our next show. We will be back on Thursday. Ollie Connolly and I are going to talk about the most interesting defenses in the league night, not ranking, just like who we want to talk about that. We're going to go deep on it. Really excited about that. Colleen Wolf is the absolute best no you are when she's back off the road, Football's back