2024-11-25- KSR - Hour 2

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Speaker 3: Welcome to our two of Kentucky Sports Radio present it by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back our number two Turkey Sports Radio eight.

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Speaker 5: I'm nine, two eighth, twenty two eighty seven.

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Speaker 4: Let's do a quick look ahead at the week ahead. We got.

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Speaker 5: Kentucky plays tomorrow, Ryan, the game against Western tomorrow is actually at six thirty for Kentucky and Western, it's a little bit earlier tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so our pregame show starts at four. It's kind of a rare four o'clock pregame show for us. I'm for basketball, but.

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Speaker 5: Six point thirty is the game. So just keep that in mind if you're coming that that's actually a little bit earlier of a game. We're gonna be doing shows tomorrow and Wednesday. We'll obviously do pre and post game Tuesday. Then Thursday and Friday we'll run best of but we will be back for pregame Friday night they play Georgia State. That game I think drew is that game at eight. I feel like that game's a little later. No, it's at seven. It's at seven on Friday night, and then the Louisville game is at noon on Saturday. So three games drew over the next six days for Kentucky basketball. Also, the women will play I think the women play Tuesday night as well, the Kentucky women, so they back to play Wednesday as well, two days in a row. Okay, so they play Tuesday and Wednesday, the women's team. So a lot of it's very busy for both teams, definitely.

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Speaker 6: And tomorrow, let's not forget bb and Invitational. I feel like a lot of the fan keeps forgetting. But tomorrow Western in Kentucky. The winner is your BBN Invitational winner on the line on this end state rivalry.

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Speaker 4: That's true.

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Speaker 5: It's a b I see, I didn't think about that, Shannon, The BBN Invitational, it's on the line.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Is there a trophy? Like do we get to see this trophy? Like, if you're going to be playing an invitational, the.

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Speaker 4: Trophy is in your heart.

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Speaker 2: We're not going to run the ladders out there and cut the nets down after be trophy like.

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Speaker 5: This it's more of a trophy like symbolic. It's a trophy of your your your overall happiness.

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Speaker 3: Kind of like it's not a real tournament, it's just a symbolic tournament.

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Speaker 6: Well, no, it's not a symbolic tournament.

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Speaker 4: It's a real turnament. It's a symbolic trophy. It's let's quit.

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Speaker 5: Let's go to the Jackson State game Friday night for a second. Guys, Kentucky wins by fifty. My three biggest takeaways. Number one the crowd. You want to know how people how excited people are about Mark Pope and UK basketball. Go look at that crowd Friday night, Ryan, I think that's as good a crowd as we've had since COVID for a non power conference like, uh, you know, non conference game at this time of year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been The crowds have been great. These non conference games in the past have usually not been near to sellout, and we're seeing it here at the restaurant. Huge crowds here at the restaurant before the game, and it translates everybody goes down to rupt. It's a hot ticket, man. People are wanting to go to the go to the games, watch his team play.

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Speaker 5: Assume the Western game will be the same way, and then the Friday night game of this week people home for Thanksgiving, I think they'll want to come. It's clear to me, Drew that Pope has re energized this sort of attending games. Part of the fan base that had really become an issue, especially before conference play had started, and it seems like that's about gotten so much better with this new coaching Hut.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I've been to all of them, to this last one, so I wasn't a part of the energy there. But we had like a watch party in Texas and there were people trying to get into this bar. We didn't really promote it, and just the fun in there. You know, we're counting down, we're having the race for one hundred just about every game. Well they scored one hundred points and three out of the five games. I mean, they're just throwing in threes. There's the moment where Perry and Noah had the back to back and this We're in Austin, Texas, and it felt like we were in Reparina. We were having so much fun. It was actually what the UK basketball game was the highlight of my entire trip, just because we had so many fans crammed into this one place watching it together, and you go around talking getting the of everyone what they think about the team.

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Speaker 5: Because he got to meet a backstreet he got to he got to hang out with Kevin Richards. That's why you were hanging out with the celebrities. Just go ahead and name drop. You can do it, okay.

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Speaker 2: Kevin Richardon was there, Josh Hopkins with you.

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Speaker 4: It was neat.

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Speaker 6: I was just gonna say, HOI to Kevin Richdon and we talked football with him for like an hour and a half. He's like, you would never think he's a Backstreet Boy. He's just like, why is will Cox not getting the ball this day? You know he's he's having all the same conversations the people that sit in the top row of Crokerfield.

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Speaker 3: Hour and a half, you guys could have written on another Backstreet Boys song in that time. I mean you guys, you practically the sixth member.

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Speaker 6: Kevin is a Kevin's a big time football fan. I want you to introduce him to Roush and Luckett And he's like, what do you mean? I know Raus and Luckett. I was listening to Eleven Personnel on.

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Speaker 4: My way here. Listening to eleven Personnel. You gotta love that? Well very neat all right? All right, so then you got the game.

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Speaker 5: I also thought during the game they continue to put up massive points. But for me, Shannon, the stories the guy throwing the shoe and.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, all right, so he I just want to know what his thought process was.

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Speaker 5: His shoe comes off, he runs down the court, and he just he just fires it at Brandon Garrison and somehow again not a foul or a technical. I would think you shouldn't be able to throw a shoe during the game, but I guess nowadays shoe throwing is legal during college basketball.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I didn't throw it to the side, just straight up spiked it at him, you know, like as hard as he could.

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Speaker 5: I think he was trying to knock the ball out of his sayings, don't you possibly.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know you could just start taking off parts of your wardrobe on a fast break and try to hit somebody with it and it's okay.

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Speaker 4: Like that.

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Speaker 5: It made national It made Sports Center that night, the shoe throwing. Ryan, did you think they should call it technical for throwing a shoe?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely? You can't row four objects unless you're with Shannon in the wrestling man.

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Speaker 5: Let's say it sounds like a wrestling guy. Foreign objects. That's what busy, That's exactly that's what we call them in wrestling.

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Speaker 2: Next thing, I'm gonna know, you're gonna throw salt in Brandon Garrison's eye or something and get away with it.

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Speaker 5: I would like to see if you did that, like great mood to blow missed, yeah, something like.

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Speaker 6: The green missed?

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Speaker 2: Yeah where that come from?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Blow there?

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Speaker 5: Miss uh So so a big win, win by fifty. Any reason Drew we don't win fifteen to twenty tomorrow against Western.

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Speaker 6: I don't think so. I mean through these fairy well throughout the Duke game that was close, but these these games are just routing people. Like I said, we're getting close to one hundred if not hitting it every single game. Western's got a couple losses already there they beat Jackson State and Lipscomb, but two teams you've already played. But than that they get. They got losses to Grand Canyon and one other that's not a very big team. So I mean they've already they've lost two of five already, and I think they're in for a long night when they get to Reperena tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: And then Duke won at Arizona pretty handily. They were up ten to fifteen pretty much the entire game, one on Arizona's home court. You know, every time Duke wins Ryan, it makes us look better, So every victory they get helps our resume. You know that when I watched I watched some of that Duke Arizona game. You know, Duke kind of dominated them. And if they continue to win, we continue to look I mean, they play Kansas tomorrow night.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm gonna be pulling for Duke, aren't you.

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Speaker 2: I think you have to, like you said, just for the resume building part of it, don't beat Arizona on their home floor, and if they can back that up with a win Racan, that just makes all win over Duke look that much better. So absolutely, I think you have to.

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Speaker 5: It's you know, chit and we might be really good. Like is there possible that we're really good?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: It's hard, Like I think I think we're just sort of conditioned because the players don't look like the players we've had the last few years. But why aren't we just I mean, explain to me why we're not really good? What is the argument for us not being really good?

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Speaker 3: I don't think there is one right now? I mean, how do you argue against what you've seen so far? Over one hundred points every time they play at home, the three point shots that they've knocked down so far this year. Kobe bre A shooting still what seventy five percent from behind?

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Speaker 5: Here, Kobe Brayan went five for eight from three and his percentage went down for the year.

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Speaker 2: We had eight different guys hit a three pointer. The other night. They hit seventeen I think as a team, and eight different guys hit one. That's amazing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we're really good.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think we're hesitant to say because we don't want to get our hopes up.

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Speaker 4: But folks, I think we are actually really good. And I don't know, I don't know how.

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Speaker 5: You can't be really really excited about it now if that's something to not necessarily being excited about the story about Aaron Bradshaw Drew.

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Speaker 4: So, Aaron brad.

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Speaker 5: Has been uh, he's not around the Ohio State team. They're not letting him do practices or anything, and they say that he they're not allowed to talk about it due to federal privacy laws, which I think is an interesting phrase to use. There's a ton of speculation out there as to what it could be. I'm not going to get into it, but there's at least I mean, I think when you hear federal when it comes to this stuff, I mean, just for sort of understanding purposes. If it was an NCAA NCAA issue, they would say it. If it was a crime of like, you know, being charged with something that happened on campus or something like that, that's a state issue. There aren't a lot of issues that are federal, And when you say federal privacy issues, it can really to me only be one of two things. One is a health related issue, because schools have to be careful with that, but usually players would be fine having the school talk about their health, and usually they would use the word health as part of that, So I kind of don't think it's a health issue. And then the other federal issue would be one that's all over sports right now, which is having to do with, you know, the idea of federal jurisdiction over various potential crimes. I don't know that that's what this is, but I will say to you, Drew, when I see that with Aaron Bradshaw, it makes.

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Speaker 4: Me a little bit concerned. What about you.

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Speaker 6: Definitely just kind of came out of nowhere. It didn't expect this at all. You know, he didn't play a whole lot last year, but I was a big fan of that kid. Because he was coming back from an injury. He seemed to have the right attitude. He seemed to be a good teammate on the bench. I was even kind of pulling form at Ohio State even though they're on the schedule. And then to be caught up in a federal investigation. It seems like whatever he has gotten into, he is in some deep trouble. And on my flight yesterday I searched his name on Twitter. That was a whole hour in itself. There's just so many people commenting on it and speculating on it. But Uh, this seems like a big deal.

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Speaker 5: Jeff Goodman said in Uh on his little broadcast that he would have more reporting on it in the next day or two. So I think we're gonna hear a lot more. I mean, I think the natural inclination Ryan, when you hear this is to go, okay, we hate it for Aaron. But then also, does any of this go back to Kentucky. I mean, I think that's what if you're a Kentucky fan, Ryan, I think that's what everybody's natural reaction is gonna be.

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Speaker 2: That's what mine was, because when you, like you said, you bring up the word federal investigation into it. I mean, it's obviously it's not an eligibility issue. It's not an academic issue. And many talk about.

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Speaker 5: Like an assault or robbery or you know whatever, because those are are state issues.

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Speaker 4: Federal I mean, let's be honest, Federal is just a hand.

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Speaker 5: When it comes to sports and federal it's only it can only be a handful of things, and one of them I think everybody can guess.

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Speaker 4: And that's what worries me at this point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we all justifiably are a little worried about it is does it go back to his days when he was here?

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Speaker 4: Could it?

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Speaker 2: Could it eventually?

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Speaker 5: Because he's only playing I mean, Drew, how many games has he even played at Ohio State?

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Speaker 4: Three? Maybe if something like that many?

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Speaker 6: They took him out for the last two.

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Speaker 2: He was starting there right before he got in trouble, right, he was pretty big play.

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Speaker 5: Like I can tell you that that if you go back and you look at at a lot of the conversations on this stuff go to games from last season, and that's what that's what concerns me.

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Speaker 4: But we'll we'll wait and see.

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Speaker 5: But with Aaron Bradshaw kid that I'm Withdrew always seem like a nice kid. You know, We'll have to wait and see, but it is a story to watch, and it does look like when we play them in New York at the end of December, it's a good chance we will not be playing against him.

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Speaker 6: Should we offer up our Oakland and Texas A and M games as as punishments just in case, But y'all can kate our entire postseason last year, We'll go ahead and put that on the table now.

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Speaker 5: I think I'm worried there's more than more than vacating on the stake. Who's up next, Mark Anthony, Mark Anthony, go ahead.

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Speaker 8: Good morning, Matthew Andrews. Shannon, Hey, Matthew, I'm a little concerned with the vibe. Thing you're talking about seems to be a locker room vibe, and that's the first since Foop's been here, and I don't like the sound of that. But nonetheless, all that aside, I want Cutter Bowli starting on Saturday. I want him to play the whole game. I think Cutter just throws a better ball. And ever since Brock has been here, I believe he's felt the pressure of being here, knowing that he was brought here to win, and I think it's affected him, and you know, bless his heart, but I think cutters the gas Saturday, win Saturday, and we've done a whole lot to make everybody feel better. So we'll see what happens. And as far as Mark Koch, if you at this point in the season, having seen what we've seen, are still hanging on to that John Calipery thing, you have lost your damn mind. I mean, the man is a coach, Matt and and he's got a plan and he understands the assignment obviously. So oh that's all I got. Fellows, guts.

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Speaker 4: Walk back.

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Speaker 5: It is Kentucky Sports Radio. If I'm nine two eight oh, twenty two eighty seven, Matt Jones, Ryan Lemon, and Drew the Franklin.

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Speaker 2: What Drew the Franklin?

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm Shannon the dude.

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Speaker 2: There are everybody's Uh, Drew got a president this morning. By the way, Matt, what did he get?

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Speaker 6: A nice guy named Matt from Georgetown brought me a waterproof car seat for our road trip, so if me or the car have any water issues, it won't be such the ordeal that it was last time we went a car like that.

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Speaker 4: You need.

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Speaker 6: Very nice of Matt from Georgetown. I'm excited to if.

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Speaker 4: We need that. That's good.

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Speaker 5: I do want to get mad at Ryan Shannon and Billy KSR Parlay. Only one of us got our game right, that was me. All three of you missed your game. Would you like to apologize to people because once again, Drew and I are seemingly the only ones that can get our picks right in this game.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, I'll apologize to you as soon as you guys apologize to me because a couple of weeks ago, I was the only one that hit it and nobody said a word about that.

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Speaker 4: So if we're focused on this, I focused on performance.

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Speaker 5: This week, and USC over UCLA was our only successful game. I would like to note, Drew, you weren't here. I would like to know what Billy wanted to pick is his game. He wanted to pick Army money line over Notre Dame Okay as a fourteen point underdog, and that game was never close at any moment.

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Speaker 4: The whole thing.

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Speaker 6: Did he give like a reason. That's a horrible pick?

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Speaker 4: It was. It was one of the worst picks. I wouldn't even let him pick it.

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Speaker 5: I really said to him, no, you're not allowed to do that, because I thought Notre Dame beating Army they had to cover fourteen. I thought that was the easiest bet of the year. Shannon doesn't know this, but I bet his Christmas present on it. If we had lost, he wouldn't have.

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Speaker 3: Gotten one my Christmas present on it. Now you get too yeah, yeah, double.

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Speaker 4: I mean that was that was easy.

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Speaker 5: So I don't know why he why why he ended up picking that. There's some breaking news.

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Speaker 4: Shits Okay, here we go running on a Macy's the store.

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Speaker 5: Macy's is delaying their earnings for one quarter because they found an employee hit up to one hundred and fifty four million dollars from the company. That's prompted an investigation and is delaying the company's quarterly earnings.

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Speaker 4: One hundred and fifty four million dollars.

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Speaker 2: You think after you had a couple million missing, you would have started looking into it then. To let it get to one hundred and fifty million, that's insane.

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Speaker 5: How would you even go about doing that one hundred and fifty four million dollars through? I mean, like, I don't know how Macy's is big, but one hundred and fifty four million, that's more than a rounding air setting. It over the course of three years, was able to hide one hundred and fifty four.

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Speaker 6: Million, that's insane. I mean, that's not just a little bit that's missing from the books. How did Mike Ryan said not after even if twenty five million. How does that not have a red flag? Numbers are down just a little bit. One hundred and fifty four million is crazy.

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Speaker 5: And I don't think that's just working at one store out in Oxmore Mall, Shannon.

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Speaker 4: That must have been somebody like high up in the company.

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Speaker 3: Right, I would think so.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you're in charge of that kind of money, you would have to be high up in the company.

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Speaker 5: Unbelievable. Also, rest in peace. Ryan to Chuck Woolery. That's right, cut Chuck Woolery. He of Love Connection and Scrabble, and he was one of the He was the original host by the way of Will of Fortune.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know that that he I learned that yesterday, went and watch it.

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Speaker 4: I did not know that he was the host of Will of Fortune before.

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Speaker 5: Pat Sajack from Ashland, Kentucky, yep, Boyd County, his own Chuck Woolery.

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Speaker 4: He passed away Ryan at eighty three years old.

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Speaker 2: One of those guys that never seemed to age. You'd seem, you know, look the same today as he did twenty years ago. He was doing some of these shows, Love Connection, Fristwith especially, but yeah, Eastern Kentucky guy, very proud of his Eastern Kentucky roots.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. He uh.

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Speaker 5: He finished his career seemingly like a lot of people do, by doing a right wing podcast. That's how a lot of the folks, uh end up sort of transitioning. But in his heyday, in his heyday Ryan, when he was on Love Connection, Yeah, he's probably one of the more known people in America, don't you think.

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Speaker 2: I think so. You know, you think of back when we were growing up watching TV. There's certain talk game show hosts that you remember, and he absolutely seemed to be on the best ones all the time.

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Speaker 4: You used to say, Shannon, like, that's your dream is to host a game show? Right? Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, dream job?

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: The price is right, especially, but I mean Will of Fortune, how hard would that be?

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Speaker 4: It's well, did they did you read?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 4: How did he end up getting replaced? Done that?

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Speaker 3: It was a contract dispute. He wanted more money, they didn't want to pay it. So then he said, all right, I'm going somewhere else and they brought in Pat Sajak.

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Speaker 4: Wow, regranted that, right, I would think so. For all of his game.

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Speaker 5: Shows, Will Fortune was the one that was the most successful.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, that's the easiest game show hosting job except for deal or no deal. You just go open the case. I mean, other than that, that's the easiest.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Actually the easiest job are the women that hold the cases.

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Speaker 3: Well, they got to hold some of them, got to hold that case for an entire half hour. Those cases are probably heavy. You think about that, it's a lot of labor.

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Speaker 5: You have to think that's a very good point. All right, who's up next, Robert? Robert, go ahead, Robert.

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Speaker 9: Hey, guys, I'm I'm over fifty, so I'll probably agree with the previous caller route that appreciates what Soups did. But to me, this pass is not sustainable. So I want to promote what I think is the ideal solution, even though it's probably not attainable. Is that Mitch convinces Jimmy Sexton or whoever student's representatives to take a longer term contract. Stay uk is the defensive coordinator and we go down and get some are all at Tulane Because it seems like.

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Speaker 4: Ever gonna happen, that's never gonna happen.

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Speaker 9: I mean, I know, I know, let's be.

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Speaker 4: Honest, I mean, let's be honest. Would you do that?

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Speaker 5: Would you take somebody that you sort of mentored and that worked under you, and then you would allow them to be the boss, and you would take a demotion.

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Speaker 9: No, but if stoops to me between the Tony up, the leaving for A and M, and the barking at the moon about the way the world is now, this isn't He doesn't want to do this, And and I sympathize that he went through a really you know, important family issue this year. I don't think people are properly putting that in perspective that may also affect his mentality, but.

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Speaker 4: He is not.

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Speaker 9: He taking this as far as we can go, and it's time for someone else to take it.

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Speaker 5: I don't dis I mean, I don't necessarily say you're wrong. I'm just saying there's not gonna be a world. And I appreciate the call where he's gonna come and work, stay at Kentucky and work for the person that he used to have working under him.

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Speaker 2: That's just not it's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 5: That would be like me saying, Billy, come host the show and I'll produce it. Like I'm just not gonna do that, even if it would be the right thing. He's just not gonna do that. I mean that just people just they don't do things like that.

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Speaker 4: We'll be right back, TJ.

00:23:34
Speaker 5: Smith, personal injury attorney, call TJ.

00:23:37
Speaker 4: He'll make them pay.

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Speaker 5: Here's Matt Jones walk back in his Kentucky Sports Radio If I'm nine, two eighth twenty two eighty cent. We will be at the bar tomorrow, uh for those of you that are in town for Thanksgiving, and the pregame show will start at four o'clock. Today is also the start RNE of the Maui Invitational. I think the game to watch tonight is I'll see at nine o'clock on esp and U number four Auburn against number five Iowa State. Those are two of the top five teams in the country are gonna be playing tonight. Yukon is in this tournament. North Carolina is in this tournament. But actually, I don't know how this ended up. A first round game, number four Auburn against number five Iowa State to open the tournament up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a good chance to check out Auburn, Who's going to be really really good this year. See how far long they are right now. So I love this. That's why I wish Kentucky would play in these tournaments. It gives us something to do on a holiday weekend. Hopefully we can get back to that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a lot of tournaments going on out there were a couple of I saw your Vanderbilt Commodores. For reasons unknown to me, Shannon, we're on ESPN last night playing against Drake.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, they put the Charleston Classic finals in the big time programs on ESPN. That's what they do. Everybody else has got to be on the computer.

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Speaker 4: But why would anyone want to watch Charleston.

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Speaker 3: Watch it Wasn't was the Charleston Classic. It was Vanderbilt, I know.

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Speaker 4: But Van Dy Drake, what is it? Why is that game on ESPN?

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Speaker 1: The championship game?

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Speaker 3: What else you gonna put on Sunday night on a ESPN. There's nothing else going.

00:25:09
Speaker 4: On anything else in the world.

00:25:11
Speaker 3: Their first loss of the season last night, Uh, Drew, I.

00:25:14
Speaker 5: Don't know if you did you see the story about the middle school in Cincinnati or in Tennessee and the University of Cincinnati.

00:25:21
Speaker 4: Did you see that?

00:25:22
Speaker 6: I caught the headline, But there's probably some details I don't have.

00:25:24
Speaker 4: So there's a high school.

00:25:27
Speaker 5: There's there's a middle school in Tennessee called Cheatham High School, which I like the name.

00:25:32
Speaker 4: We just cheat, that's what we do.

00:25:34
Speaker 5: And uh So at this middle school, I guess their nickname are the Bearcats, and they had the logo that was the exact same logo as Cincinnati. Now Cincinnati, I guess owns the trademark for the logo. So they basically sent a letter to the middle school saying, you gotta get rid of the logo. Now, let me take a step back here for a second. People have to understand the law of trademarks. In order to keep a trademark, you have to defend it. Drew, you understand what I'm saying, meaning like, if you find out other people are using your logo, you have to either tell them to stop or enter into an agreement with them, because if you don't, then people will say, you're not defending your your trademark.

00:26:19
Speaker 6: What's the point of having a trademark if you're not taking care of it.

00:26:21
Speaker 4: Yes, exactly, that's what the courts say. So what a lot of.

00:26:24
Speaker 5: Schools will do is if they see a high school is using their logo, which happens all the time. They'll write them a letter and say, listen, we own this logo, but if you'll give us a dollar, we'll let you use it. Does that make sense, because that way you can say we defended it and we entered into an agreement for them to use it.

00:26:46
Speaker 4: Cincinnati did not take that tax.

00:26:48
Speaker 5: As a matter of fact, they said, no, we're not gonna We're not gonna do it for a dollar.

00:26:53
Speaker 4: You just have to stop using it period.

00:26:56
Speaker 5: Now to me, Drew, that's kind of lame of Cincinnati, right, Like, that's.

00:27:02
Speaker 4: Kind of lame.

00:27:03
Speaker 5: It's a middle school in Tennessee. Why not just let them use the stupid logo?

00:27:07
Speaker 6: Yeah, especially a middle school.

00:27:09
Speaker 4: Come on, it's a middle school in Cincinnati.

00:27:13
Speaker 5: But they say it all right, So then I guess the middle school tries to change the logo, but Cincinnati doesn't think they change it enough. So then they wrote them and said, not only can you not do you have to change the logo, you are now no longer.

00:27:30
Speaker 4: Able to be the bear Cats.

00:27:33
Speaker 5: Now, to me, at that point, Ryan, they're being real jerks, right, Like, it's one thing to say don't use our logo, it's another thing to say, you can't even be the bear Cats little Tennessee middle school.

00:27:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, why are you picking on the Cheatham Bearcats? Go pick on somebody in your own size.

00:27:48
Speaker 4: I mean it's a middle school. Shit, give them a break.

00:27:51
Speaker 2: It's a middle school.

00:27:52
Speaker 3: Nobody's gonna confuse Cincinnati Bearcats for the middle school.

00:27:56
Speaker 5: So they say that to him. So now since this little middle school is like, well, what do we do now? I mean, we don't have the money to fight this with Cincinnati. We probably could keep the name bear Cats.

00:28:08
Speaker 4: There are hundreds of schools with the name Bearcats. Fine, we'll do something else.

00:28:13
Speaker 5: So they send out a letter to their families and go, hey, we're gonna try to think of a new name because Cincinnati's being mean. If you have suggestions, let us know, all right. So I see the letter, somebody sends it to me. I post it. Now here's where the story gets great. Drew Xavier. You know, Xavier hates Cincinnati. Xavier decides, you know what, let's come and play the good guy.

00:28:37
Speaker 4: Yep.

00:28:37
Speaker 5: Xavier comes in and says, you know what, you can use Musketeers if you want, and if you do, we'll sell your t shirts on our site and we'll give you the money so that you can change your logo and pay for all the things you need to do, and we'll give you free support to help you make the transition.

00:28:57
Speaker 4: Drew, how awesome is that?

00:28:58
Speaker 5: And what a needle in the eye of the Cincinnati Bearcats.

00:29:03
Speaker 6: Yeah, that is such great roving by Xavier. But I still want to focus on how much Cincinnati, what are you doing? That's like, it's such an embarrassing look picking on a middle school and you've just now given Xavier's such a good, feel good story that they're gonna help this middle school and taking as far as to help them design the new logo and anything they need to get you all on the right track away from the Bearcats. We're gonna help you out.

00:29:23
Speaker 4: Shannon, I feel like you have to love the pettiness. No, I do. You're right there, don't you.

00:29:28
Speaker 2: I do?

00:29:28
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, what better way to stick it to your rival than to just basically assist and help them get a new logo and a new mascot.

00:29:36
Speaker 2: I love it.

00:29:36
Speaker 5: It's great, But Cincinnati's the lamous rhyme for doing this. I mean, I legally, I understand you have to protect your copyright, so Again, what most schools will do is they'll say, okay, either we will license you the logo for a dollar, or maybe you need to change it to be a little different. But Cincinnati not only makes them change it, they also say you can't even use the name, which I'm not even sure if legally they're allowed to do that, but.

00:30:04
Speaker 4: They threaten them.

00:30:05
Speaker 5: This middle school doesn't have the money to go try to defend itself with legal fees. To me, Cincinnati is the pettiest universe. That's something that's one of the pettiest things I've seen a college do. Cincinnati, you should be ashamed of yourself on the other side of the border. What a petty thing for a middle school in Tennessee.

00:30:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, the PR people at Cincinnati or the market people whoever, they need to be fired. And the people with Xavier need to get a raised their PR people. That's a brilliant move by them to step in like, hey, it's a middle school. Middle school in tennesse not even in your own state.

00:30:41
Speaker 6: It seems like a lot of middle schools use NFL logos like any team that's the Patriots. I feel like they just have the New England mark the same what's the place.

00:30:49
Speaker 5: What the Patriots will do is they'll when they find it, they'll send them a letter and say, give us a dollar and you can use it, because legally that's what they need to do in.

00:30:57
Speaker 4: Order to protect themselves. Yeah, but they should do that.

00:31:01
Speaker 5: But banning them from using bear cats, I'll never cheer for Cincinnati. That's the lamest thing I've ever seen a school do. I cannot think of a lamer action by a school then.

00:31:12
Speaker 4: Going after a middle school over.

00:31:14
Speaker 5: Their logo, not even the logo, their nickname, shit, just their nickname.

00:31:20
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it's very petty. I just hope the Denver Broncos never find out about Bullet East logo because it's the exact same logo Borough, exact.

00:31:30
Speaker 4: Middlesborough with Georgia Tech. I mean, we all need to be you know, we all need to be saviors.

00:31:34
Speaker 6: Should bring that middle school to their big rival games.

00:31:37
Speaker 5: They should get the whole sex should They should let them come to the line shootout and throw the chili right and his face?

00:31:45
Speaker 4: Alan next? Alan, go ahead? Alan?

00:31:49
Speaker 2: All right?

00:31:49
Speaker 8: Uh?

00:31:50
Speaker 4: Real quick.

00:31:50
Speaker 7: Regarding Mark Stukes, how about this as an alternative. Uh, there's been a lot of talk about how hard coaching is, especially in the SEC these days, a transfer portal n I L and all that student's definitely talked a lot about it. What about a new position within the athletic Association for just focusing on football and I L.

00:32:11
Speaker 5: I'm not going to do that. Why again, folks, why? First of all, why would he want to focus.

00:32:16
Speaker 4: On the n I L. He hates it. He does job. He hates the.

00:32:22
Speaker 7: Boat part of the job.

00:32:24
Speaker 4: Yep.

00:32:25
Speaker 7: But it's a fact of life these days.

00:32:27
Speaker 4: I understand. But you want him to stop coaching and do the part of the job he hates.

00:32:33
Speaker 7: I would love for him to continue coaching. I think he's the greatest thing that you're saying.

00:32:38
Speaker 4: You're saying, well, they already have that.

00:32:40
Speaker 5: They already have a person, Eddy Grant is the person in charge of it.

00:32:45
Speaker 7: Yeah, but but I don't understand what you what you want him to do.

00:32:51
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I'm I'm I'm missing it. What what what do you want him to do?

00:32:57
Speaker 7: I'm thinking divide and conquered as far as coaching or responsibilities these days, and having somebody in a that instead of assistant coach position, somebody equivalent to a coach taking over the NIL because Stoops has got the relationships and overall people are just pointed this year. But he's got a great reputation at Kentucky. And then you make room for a new coach, an up and coming coach, to come in and take over just the coaching duties and focus on But again, he's.

00:33:30
Speaker 4: Not going to do that.

00:33:31
Speaker 5: I mean, why in the world Mark stops the part of you're asking that Mark Stoops stopped the part of the job he likes, which is coaching football, and take over the part of the job he hates, which is in I l why would he do that?

00:33:49
Speaker 7: Well, if he continues the coach the way he is, that's not gonna last long.

00:33:55
Speaker 5: But he has all the leverage. And that's the thing we have to remember. And I called he has all the leverage. We have the University of Kentucky has no leverage with Mark Stoops. Mark Stoops has a pretty much a fully guaranteed contract, or at least a substantially guaranteed contract, and he gets it no matter what, unless like he were to break a rule or something.

00:34:19
Speaker 4: So we can't, I.

00:34:20
Speaker 5: Mean, we don't have the ability to force him to do anything. And the idea that he would say you know what I hate about coaching now raising money, But you know what I'll do full time raise money.

00:34:33
Speaker 2: Like that would be Shannon.

00:34:35
Speaker 5: That would be like me quitting doing the radio just so I can read the commercials.

00:34:40
Speaker 3: Yeah, Steves isn't doing that.

00:34:43
Speaker 2: He's not gonna do it.

00:34:44
Speaker 5: Yeah, He's just not gonna do it. So, I mean, he has all of the all of the leverage. And that's just the reality that we find ourselves in DraftKings. If you want to get ready for the Male Invitational or other Thanksgiving Feast week week tournaments, go to DraftKings promo coach ks our bet five get one hundred and fifty dollars in bonus bets. Let's look at a at the Monday night football game tonight, Ryan, it looks like it is Ravens Chargers Ravens by two and a half on the spread.

00:35:15
Speaker 2: Who you got, Yeah, that's the Hardball Bowl, the brothers fighting against each other tonight. So I'm going with John and the Ravens tonight.

00:35:22
Speaker 4: Go with John.

00:35:23
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take jim I think at home Jimmy Harball will cover the two and a half and probably win the game. What about you, Drew, I'll go Raiders, but the Chargers have found some Raiders aren't in the game.

00:35:37
Speaker 6: I say Ravens. The Chargers have one like five out of six, so they've they've figured something out. But I still Ravens are still my Super Bowl pick, even though they've taken a couple of losses recently. I think they can win and cover tonight.

00:35:47
Speaker 4: All right, what about you, shit?

00:35:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, Lamar will be in the game, and I think it's just hard to ever bet against him. So I'm gonna go with the Ravens on this one.

00:35:54
Speaker 5: All right. Well, if you listen the other night, they all picked the Steelers. I picked the Browns and I was right, And tonight they're all picking the Ravens that I got the Chargers. Either way, go to DraftKings, place your bet and get it in on DraftKings. Please gamble responsibly one hundred gambler. If you have a problem, be you very careful and go to Draft Kings. We'll take a break very back to Kentucky Sports Radio, Cincinnati, Ohio. We also got rid this week of Jonathan India. Jonathan India Drew is the only player for the Reds that was there the whole time.

00:36:31
Speaker 4: I've had season tickets.

00:36:33
Speaker 5: He was I think it was his second year when I first had season tickets, And basically they've turned their whole roster over except him. He's the only guy that, to my knowledge, is still there from the beginning. Hunter Green came right after, and then everybody else has come after.

00:36:50
Speaker 4: So they traded him this weekend.

00:36:52
Speaker 5: So the last vestige of my first year of season tickets is gone. Yeah, you know it's for they got like the trade. They got a guy named Brady Singer. They needed another picture. But so now all of my Reds connections from the moment I first bought my tickets are out the door.

00:37:10
Speaker 6: True, seems like you haven't even had them that long. How many years has it Beene, She's the only guy the whole roster. I mean, they're all becoming.

00:37:20
Speaker 5: Most of the team's young, and they were all in the minors when I started going.

00:37:24
Speaker 6: I know you're you're excited about the future with Ellie and everything, but is this kind of do you feel like the closing of a book on an era of Yeah?

00:37:31
Speaker 5: I thought he was I never thought I mean, I never thought he was as good as everybody else did.

00:37:36
Speaker 4: But he was fine. I liked him.

00:37:38
Speaker 5: You know, he was uh sh And he's a perfect example of how I don't let political affiliations get in the way of my fandom because he was like Maga before they were Maga.

00:37:47
Speaker 2: Oh really you know, oh.

00:37:49
Speaker 5: Yeah, like he was like he was bigger, but I still liked him. You know, they like that doesn't matter for baseball. What would bother me is that he just I didn't think he was good enough to play to play second base, and then he wasn't good enough to be a d h And it was just but he gave a good a good number of years and uh, you know, it's a little sad, Shannon.

00:38:10
Speaker 4: I've been watching him from the beginning and now he won't be a rich.

00:38:13
Speaker 3: And turning over the roster for the Reds has worked out so well, So I'm happy.

00:38:17
Speaker 4: He's gonna work out. We're gonna be good. This is the year we're gonna be good.

00:38:19
Speaker 3: Like you're a season ticket holder, do you want to see a change? I mean, we always talk about season ticket holders going I'm not gonna buy tickets next year.

00:38:26
Speaker 5: Well, I mean we did have a change. We got a new manager, right, Terry Francona. I'm excited about that.

00:38:32
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, I'm excited they're gonna be young, that they've got the potential.

00:38:35
Speaker 2: To be good.

00:38:35
Speaker 5: They need to go get one or two more hitters this sofseason. If they do, then I'm gonna come in predicting a World Series again like.

00:38:41
Speaker 2: I have, Just like some pitching.

00:38:44
Speaker 3: Maybe somebody to catch.

00:38:45
Speaker 4: It, you know, maybe Ryan.

00:38:48
Speaker 5: The high school playoffs provided some huge upsets this weekend. Right, So, Boyle County four straight years of winning the state title, they were ranked nationally, hadn't lost a home game in the playoffs in a deck and they lose it home to your boys from Covington Catholic.

00:39:03
Speaker 2: Covington Catholic at Boyle County. Boyle County apparently scored the go ahead touchdown, but the guy fumbled the ball and it went through the end zone, so CUFCAT took over, ran out the clock. So excited. I would not have predicted that, but it was an exciting win for Cuvecat.

00:39:19
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, one of the few times we've had a nationally ranked team. I saw an interesting stat about Sayer in Lexington there Drew Sayer. If they were to make the state championship, would it be the only team in history where the state championship game was closer to their campus than the regular season games. Because they play so far away from the school that Kroger Field is actually closer to them than where they normally play their home games.

00:39:48
Speaker 6: That's a good point. They're out there by cornbread help.

00:39:50
Speaker 4: Yeah.

00:39:51
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean Chad Pennington, the former NFL quarterback, kind of just started up SAYA football and here we are talking about him making a run at state. So he's got good things going for the school in downtown Lexington. You just never really thought of him as a football powerhouse, but he's got them winning games.

00:40:05
Speaker 2: Yeah. Knocked off Pipel last weekend pipe friend our.

00:40:09
Speaker 5: Friend of the KSR KSR pregame show, Max Duffy, assistant coach at Lexington Christian. They went all the way out to Mayfield and it got so crazy that fans at Mayfield were trying to fight the coaches and players.

00:40:25
Speaker 4: Wow.

00:40:27
Speaker 5: Yeah, So they had to Max and them were out in Mayfield. They had to get escorts from the police off the stadium because Mayfield fans were trying to jump the fence and fight the coaches.

00:40:39
Speaker 2: Wow.

00:40:40
Speaker 3: I feel like Max could probably hold his own if he had to get involved in a brawl. But man, that's crazy.

00:40:45
Speaker 4: Isn't that nuts? Ryan? I'd love to have seen how that ended up haden.

00:40:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, the stories that are coming out there are not very nice about what happened down there. The fans got that little out of control. SE's some really bad games.

00:41:00
Speaker 4: Very nice. What does that mean?

00:41:02
Speaker 2: It was ugly, lines were crossed, lines were crossed.

00:41:06
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, it sounds like Shannon. He won't say the details.

00:41:09
Speaker 4: He said that bad.

00:41:10
Speaker 2: You can't say the details. It's pretty bad. I think some stuff that was being said that I'm not going to repeat.

00:41:19
Speaker 6: Not about Max though, not about Max. Wow, I don't.

00:41:24
Speaker 4: Bring it down and not Shannon. Good grief. I was like.

00:41:28
Speaker 5: Ryan, getting this all all sad. I guess we'll go to the phones before Ryan. Ryan makes any of us more cry.

00:41:35
Speaker 4: Go ahead, Randall, Randall, go ahead, Randall.

00:41:38
Speaker 10: He man, I was gonna talk about Aaron Brian Shaw he I hate to hear the news about him, and you know, being a former Cat. But you know, on the pausive side, I think you will, you know, bring a lot of other players in the league and stuff with the you know, more gambling in the sport and stuff like that, you know, no realizing that it could be trouble for them if they were to you know, shape points or anything like that.

00:42:06
Speaker 4: Yeah.

00:42:06
Speaker 5: I mean, if there's any player that doesn't realize that now they need to because it's uh, you know, there have been playing multiple NBA players banned for life. Basketball is a sport where it's the easiest to do, so you gotta be really careful, right.

00:42:21
Speaker 10: And as far as like the Cats, I mean, if they go undefeated in non conference before they go into conference, uh, I mean, what would you see their losses?

00:42:32
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00:42:58
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