Amanda Serrano on Puerto Rico’s FIRST undisputed champ, Katie Taylor fights & future of women’s boxing

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Speaker 1: I wasn't taught boxing. I was taught to be a fighter. I am a fighter first, and then yes, I can box if I want.

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Speaker 2: To, but I don't want to. Plus, these girls don't hit that hard, so.

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Speaker 3: Maybe they hit hard.

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Speaker 2: I I will be a little like keep my hand up, but no.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, what up, yartist, Joe Crack the Dawn. Know who it is, your boy, Jada? You know what it is? The Joe and Jada Show. Every show legendary, every show iconic. And we ain't gonna stop.

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Speaker 3: Talk slow form.

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Speaker 5: We ain't gonna stop destroying y'all at the rapidest pace you've ever seen in this space.

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Speaker 3: No ship like that get ahead before even now you're talking myself. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 5: I guess you think of today's guests, You think of a real deal. You think of dominant female year me, You think of dominant female Porto Rican South Pawk, You think of thirty one KO, You think of multiple unified champions, you.

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Speaker 3: Think of multi.

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Speaker 6: Division championship, five time w B A A w B A N Fight.

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Speaker 3: Of the year. That can't be easy.

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Speaker 5: Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for I guess I like a man and the real pill Sir Roder.

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Speaker 2: Who thank you.

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Speaker 1: That sound amazing. You could keep going and going out, your mom your voice. I loved it.

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Speaker 3: It shows made for you to say that. That's why. That's how I know I got good job. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you for having me. It's truly and honor to be here with Big Bro Joe and Jada watch your show. Love it to death, always cheering you on and super powerable for you.

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Speaker 5: Guys, you feel thank you. But it's like you, you like an extended cousin on the show. We talk about you. I know, probably been mentioned in at least twenty five thirty of our show.

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Speaker 2: I know. Sometimes I see it, I'm like, whoa Joe still remembers me?

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Speaker 3: Come on, it ain't too many like you. You know, we talk about Puerto Rico, we talk about so many championship boxes, and then you being a female. Because I don't care, in whatever perspective, whatever game, whatever job, whatever everything, they always it's always harder for a female, no matter what. I don't care what people say. Now women are becoming bosses and everything, but still, but when I see them talk about the legendary boxes, now they giving it up to you. Puerto Rico, the Homeland is saying no, you know, they got to face the Trinidad, you refraid. Oh, all the legends of all and you're on there, Like how does that feel? That is to be acknowledged like that?

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Speaker 1: So surreal, you know, being next to those big names coming from our small island.

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Speaker 2: But we have so many great champions, big champions. It's truly an honor.

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Speaker 1: And man, I wanted to give back to Puerto Rico something that we never had, and that was becoming on disputter chat and I did that. I became the first on the spiritter champion for Puerto Rico because we needed something, We needed to have something over everybody else. And I'm glad I gave that to them to this day when I go back to that while I live in the island, but when I'm there, people are like, man, you're giving us excitement the way Tito used to give us excitement. And I'm like, for real, when I fall on the big stage, they tell me that the streets are empty when my fighters on the streets are empty, and that's something I get, Goose, I'm just thinking about it. I get emotional because like, wow, a little girl from Bushwick. I grew up in Bushwick but born in Puerto Rico. But I stood true to my roots, to my Puerto Rican roots, and they love me, and I'm so glad that I'm able to give them something back.

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Speaker 5: How did it feel to be the first female to headline a fight at Madison Square?

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Speaker 3: Dog Man?

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Speaker 1: That was something I never thought what happened. It wasn't in the it was in the picture. It wasn't something that us girls growing up in the sport or starting the sport, we had something to We see men headlining, We saw like me as a Puerto Rican sole the dol Miguel Coto, but it never was a female doing that. So I never pictured that that would happen for a female. But to do that, it was just something amazing. It was an amazing night.

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Speaker 2: To sell it out, not once, but twice.

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Speaker 3: Shut out the girl you fought, because she ain't no joke, No.

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Speaker 1: Katie Taylor, She's a gold medal Olympico medalist, She's pompful. Power is me Her and Clarissa all Pomfu three on the list. Always always listen. People don't know I only had nine amateur fights. I only bo I started two thousand and seven. I wasn't Golden Gloves in two thousand and eight. That was my last bye as a as an amateur. Only I never left New York. So to be in there with an amazing talented woman, she had over two hundred wins as an amateur.

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Speaker 2: She started when she was five. I started when I was eighteen.

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Speaker 1: So to be in the talks with someone like that, to be competitive with someone like that, you know, some people say that I won. I believe I won to at least of the three fights you want. But listen, just to even be competitive with her and just have my name next to her is truly an honor.

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Speaker 2: And she was a great, a great champion.

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Speaker 3: And then off the ring, it would be hard for me to be like a professional boxer is when I know I won, and imagine you did diversities that they said, and the winner is and you know you said, you did, you pussy yond neighbors, you did all that shit, and they give it to somebody else. This, you know boxes the command that definitely the first fight, one billion percent, it was her fight. The supporter boxing, right, We've seen too many times we thought somebody won and then they give it to somebody else that gotta be like a no that hurts, that hurts, politics and everything. Yes, we know that. We know.

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Speaker 1: I've noticed that too, because you trained so hard and to have it.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, the whole staying is don't leave it to the judges.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you can't leave it to the judges, because no matter where you're going, you have three judges. You put it on your line, on the line. You're going out there, you're fighting, getting punched and stuff. It's up to three judges that determine if you win or lose. And depending on their opinions, sometimes they're like boxers, sometimes they're like brol Depending on what they like, they're gonna go towards that that person.

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Speaker 3: I used to see this one referee. You definitely know who he is, this black dude back in the day. Every time he rest, I knew some bullshit is going on. Every fucking time he came up in that ring and be like, and the referee, I'll be like, oh shit, we got this dude. He was in on the fucking he was. He was betting hard rock bets a long time ago. I'm fucking telling you, before the ship in bended. He was Every time he was in the ring. I knew something, bro. Every fucking time I watched this guy in the ring, I said, some bullshit about to happen either joint, somebody, somebody stood on the floor too long, he took too long to count. This guy was in on bullshit Like every fight, Like, I be like, yo, this guy right here, you know, I mean, this human is it's whatever. But the point is the thing about you, right Could you are clear a myth that I always wondered about. Could a woman beat the man up? Listen, somebody fuck with you right now? Dude on the corner, Yo, mama got come here being very disrespectful. Could you make this ship out of him?

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Speaker 2: It's one of those guys. If it's not a train, not a train like I think I on one.

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Speaker 3: You might put the paint on one of these guys at bush waking in the corner. It is because sometimes I see the girls frighting, I be like, yo, by the way, they might fuck you up like in real life. Definitely.

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Speaker 1: I love staying like I'm walking down the street and I'm like, only if these guys look at these guys, if they knew I just one punch, I can.

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Speaker 3: Just I was blessing. Let me tell you something. I'm at the Versus watching him and the dip set, and I'm there with my long guy zandays, I'm with three championship boxes and some dudes try to front and take their chair, and I'm like, I'm actually, they probably thought fat Joe with you was there, right, fief. I bet they probably thought Joe Krack was on bullshit. I was like trying to protect them. Literally, they know if these guys pound them out and they the boxes happen to be the nicest guys in the word, Like, no, excuse me, these are tickets, this, this, that, and that. Dude. Nah Son, y'all gotta give up these seat right or wrong? I said, Yo, you know what, man, suppose they are your seats. Man, let's say they are. We keeping them ships anyway, fuck you want to do talking show. They got the fuck up out of it. But I did double favor saved yo. These guys were three champions bro. If they would have let them fist flood them, dudes was underneath the seats. I don't think they can do that. You can't just be there. You can't Mike tysonboy can't touch listen. I don't know about that cruise with that.

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Speaker 1: I never I never had a street fight. I have only four in the rings. God yes, because people know if you can't, they're lucking black.

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Speaker 3: Something that you do.

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Speaker 1: I have to me, they say, I mean, I if they know who I am, then they obviously want to press charges.

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Speaker 2: But I'm gonna ask girl.

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Speaker 3: Your ma and Mike Tyson definitely fifty million dollars in lawsuits. I swear to God, like every time I turned around, every like, Mike Tyson beat somebody up in Brooklyn. The guy won two million. Mike Tyson beat somebody like when we was growing up. What about that guy beat up on airplane?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Wait with that one, because the guy was yeah, the N word, with the R and all that. Like you know, I got on a plane with the pilot and now he was like, oh my god, you're my second celebrity. You know, I was the pilot when Mike Tyson beat up the guy this he said, the guy deserved it.

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Speaker 2: I was just like.

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Speaker 3: Everybody knew or he fucking with Mike too much. And you know that's something that happens with anybody who's in entertainment or famous. The people think they could talk to you like they feel like I bought your CD. I can tell you whatever the fuck I want to tell you.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I'm not big as you guys, but I'm getting that too, and I'm like, okay, thank god. I'm always with Jordan and he's my manager, my brother, so he's always and he's pretty big.

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Speaker 7: So by birthday, Happy birthday, jun Helo, hold on, hold on, speaking of how with all of that stuff, you just say, we gotta rewind.

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Speaker 3: You know what kind of deal she goes?

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Speaker 5: She got a lifetime deal, then she becomes the gent then she runs the front office at that's the incredible y'ally you.

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Speaker 1: Have to you have to think about after you retire. Most likely this is my last year. I'm going for the knockout.

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Speaker 7: Go.

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Speaker 1: Christy Martin has thirty two knockouts, so she's had it over over twenty years.

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Speaker 2: So I'm thirty one.

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Speaker 1: I'm like one more to tell you to the break and I'm like, it'll be silly of me just to hang it up before I do it.

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Speaker 2: So it's right there.

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Speaker 3: And once already going to hard rock bets.

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Speaker 2: Yeah we don't do it, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Score eighty three.

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Speaker 2: But definitely.

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Speaker 1: And then then so you have to start thinking about when I retire, and that's one hundred percent. I'm all about my women, women empowerment, and I want to see these women grow. I want to see the sport of box and grow, continue to grow. We're doing amazing things. We just announced that we signed with ESPN. That was something that's that's a big deal for us for have women showcase on such a great network, so the whole world can see that. So many talented champions out there, and I'm excited. I'm excited to see the sport grow.

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Speaker 3: It's great that you've shining the light on it and taking it to another level, like we went. We just came back from NASCAR. I guess that's where you get the racing shirt from it and all that. It looks.

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Speaker 2: It looks good, looks good.

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Speaker 3: I love it. You want to look like this and that. Yo. But I'm saying we learned about uh African American driver in like the six back in the day and that ship, but we never knew that was crazy son and his grandson, you know, from Virginia. So it was like it was like you know sometimes so so this who are great champions that came before you? But didn't get the spot like a woman's boxing.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you know everyone knows Ley Lolli, Christy Martin. I mean they had their spotlight at the time, but it still wasn't as big as it's gotten now. But look, my sister send it around on Not too many people know. She's the one who inspired me to get into the sport. She was a champion as well. She just retired. She became a Hall of Famer for New York and she's working on the big one where she definitely would be going on it, but at the time she wasn't getting the pay or recognition. I'm super blessed and now that I got lots of money that I can take care of her and give give everything back to her, like well not everything, but back because.

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Speaker 2: She opened the doors for me.

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Speaker 1: But there's a lot of champions that there's a couple of Puerto Rican champions, these girls like I'm Melissa Hernandez. They were great champions, great fighters, but they didn't get that spotlight. And I'm glad that now it's changing a little bit part of a great company, MVP that's helping the women grow beautiful.

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Speaker 3: With that being said, I don't feel about MMA and the money.

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Speaker 5: In the media shining spotlight that they put on that Well, just.

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Speaker 1: In case you didn't know, I am on the feet of MMA.

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Speaker 3: What I did say, Dominic, I'm too all.

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Speaker 1: In one and true by submission by knockout. So that's something I'm proud of.

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Speaker 3: Submission is incredible.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I love it.

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Speaker 1: But I actually went to M m A because at that time my boxing contract, I was already a five or six division world champion, and I was getting my boxing contract was excuse my language, but.

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Speaker 2: It was peanuts.

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Speaker 3: And I saw to the lady the other day that owns the Liberty, it's the Asian LADYE. Her husband owns the next and she owned this I ain't know, but where I was fighting for the girls for the higher pay. You all like, she's down with it, but you know everybody gotta be down with it. Yeah no, So she was telling me, and I was just like, Yo, there's no way the sport could be so big and these girls got to struggle to get paid, like all that ship is underfaked. No it is.

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Speaker 1: And then I saw how MMA was treating the women with more respect spot like more money, and that's why I decided to go to MMA, and actually my MMA contract was bigger than my boxing contract, so I'm like, it just didn't make sense. And it was my pro debut. I was making more money than having a championship fight in boxing, so it was silly. It's silly for me. But then I guess boxing got a little jealous and they wanted me back, so then they stay up the money. So that's what you need to do. You need to, yeah, bargain, negotiate yourself. If you don't love me, I'm gonna go.

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Speaker 3: Somewhere going on out here, man, you know it's going to respect the value. You know. It's crazy is sometimes the reverse happens, right. So I remember one time I told these guys, yo, you know, I don't want to be on this record label no more. They was like, all right, fine, sign right here. Not a problem. I was like, damn, I thought they gave a fuck. They were like, you could leave now, Joe, not a problem, like see you later. I was like, Oh, let the door off it, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

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Speaker 2: But I bet they regret.

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Speaker 3: It, Oh big time. E E mean time I see them, they tell me that shit. Yeah, it's been thirty years. They'd be like, yo, Joe, we should have never let you go, should have been robbing you forever. Hate That's some bullshit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when it close money everywhere, you're getting robbed everywhere, so.

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Speaker 3: You never stopped getting robbed. So you know, I've done got my heart broken. One thing about money and a turn of honest people bad Like you know what I'm saying. When you give someone too much controller, your money and so much trust and me, believe it or not, I got fucked so many times in my life. Pause dead, I still trust. Yeah, you know that. It's just in my nature to trust. I just let you what they say. You give you enough rope, you hang yourself and then I'm just like, all right, that's it. Once I know you done for life. And let me tell you something man, I noticed about all Right, We're gonna keep focused. But one thing is this. Guys, when you as a member of a team and you're no longer a member of the team, you did something. And I'm not talking about fat Joe and terrorist Spak. I'm talking about anybody. Because I see guys who used to be down with somebody, now their new profession is going around YouTube doing these interviews talking about who they used to be or who they was, and Niggas is fifty five sixty years old talking about how they held it down to junior high. Ohheno, No, No, when you're not down, that's how you start the shit. That's how you start the shit. Then I get the beef with everybody in the thirty section at all. I'm not talking about me, said, listen, guys, here's a rule to the streets. It's always been a rule. If you're not down, no more. We will never mention you again when we're sitting in the car. We don't even call you by your name. If you if you ever come up, it calls SCRAMs or fans or or you don't. You are nameless forever and it doesn't have nothing. I'm not talking about me. I watched the interview on YouTube this morning with the guy was like, Yo, they don't mention me. Then, how about you're not down and you're telling stories about forty years ago when you's down, you're not even like what do you did you have? Do you get that? Like you from Bushwick? You're in Porto Rita. You definitely must have been up on chink chair roll or something like they had to like you had to get somebody who was cool with you before it ain't cool with you. Ain't got that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that never ends.

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Speaker 1: The lucky I've been around, my family have been blessed, so they've always kept me in check.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a watching chadda. I don't go out there and god, that's not what I do.

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Speaker 3: Obviously.

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Speaker 1: You see me on social media, you see me in my press conferences. I'm not the person. I'm not the loud person. I do everything I have to do. I handle my business in the ring or in the cage, and I go out there and I be the best version of myself, the best me.

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Speaker 2: So I do my talking with my hands in the ring.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. Hip hop is different though, bro, Like I'm like, hip hop is fucking crazy. Like I watched these people. You ain't hang out with the person in thirty years or twenty years, Like, Yo, this shit is insanity to me. I don't know. I don't, I don't, I don't.

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Speaker 1: But is that now everybody with my same last name where related with cousins, Like it's not even if you're you're a celebrity, it's always it's going to happen. People are gonna talk stuff if you're doing good, if you're doing bad, and they always yeah.

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Speaker 3: But what I can though, what I keep seeing the same guy say, is why they don't mention me. They won't see me every dude, you want one, you don't want one, don't do that. Don't do that, listen, don't do that. You don't want one. Listen with because these guys they love that ship, they love.

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Speaker 2: That you can't give it.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm just sitting there looking at some other guy who allegedly was down with some other guys, and he's like, Yo, they don't mention me when I see them tell the story that. How about listen breaking news headline. You're not down anymore. You can see that with the rats and the mafia, like the rests. Yeah, once a gangster. No, Papa, you told like you gotta go over there. There's another sex way. No, no, there's another section in jail. You can't be in the with the real guys. Don't get fuck how many niggas you killed? You told you out? Yeah, it can't be here, you know. So that's another game, right anyway, Let's leave that at first.

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Speaker 3: What kind of music do you listen to when you're training?

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Speaker 5: And do you listen to different music when you're training for m M A and when he's training for a fight.

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Speaker 8: No.

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Speaker 2: Mine, My music is very dong and and some rap. It depends on.

00:25:17
Speaker 1: The person the rapper that yeah, so that gets me going to be boxing?

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Speaker 3: Right? You just standing there? I don't want to say, like a man, but damn you tough man. You in there and I watched pause from the back. You just like boom boom, like a fucking machine, like ping pink pink, pink, pink, pink. And you the reason why you're successed so successful is you give everybody a great show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's one.

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Speaker 3: Of the worst things. When we watch a fight. We get hyped for a fight and they scared for twelve rounds running around wrestling and scared the throat. You go up in there and you sacrifice every day.

00:26:02
Speaker 1: That's one thing You're never going to see that from me. I'm an entertainer first, and I want to go in there. You guys are spending your money to come see me or you your time is valuable as well, So you're spending your time watching me fight. I want you guys to leave and say, my god, that was a fight. I don't like I spend a lot of money on my office, but I don't mind them getting dirty or bloody. It's funny because I am the complete opposite of what you see in that ring. I'm like, I'm a sucker. Outside of the ring, I'm a cry baby.

00:26:33
Speaker 2: I don't know.

00:26:34
Speaker 1: Once I go through those ropes, I'm a different person. I'm the real deal in those ropes. And that's what you're going to see. And now with this record that I'm trying to break, you're going to continue to see that because I have to get those knockouts because I need I need to break that record.

00:26:48
Speaker 2: So that's what I want.

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Speaker 3: Don't knockout soon. I even see you sometimes in the crowd as a fan being frustrated have fights and see you see boxes, you know, and they and they ain't putting in that work. And now I'll see you. Sometimes I watch on TV or I get the fight and I see Amanda in the crowd and I'm like, she's like, man, you better fuck this.

00:27:14
Speaker 1: I'm kind of biased because I fight the way I like to watch fights.

00:27:18
Speaker 2: I love to go in there.

00:27:19
Speaker 1: You know you're you're putting everything on the line, Yes, but you want to go out there and put a show like I want to see that.

00:27:25
Speaker 2: I want to see one.

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Speaker 1: Get knocked down, get up and not the alle down Like actually that's that's take a dream fight for me. Like I get knocked down and I get back up, and I knocked the girl down and we go back and forth. Obviously I win, but you know, and when I became on disputer Champion, I fought a Mexican Arica Cruise. This girl, she's obviously a Mexican fighter, but I always said, I want to fight where we're just going back and forth, back and forth. I saw Jordan, that my trainer, and he was like, you're nuts. I said, no, that's the fight. I want afford it to be on disputed something. The first coming out of Puerto Rico. I wanted to be that fight. I could have boxed that girl easily, like she just she was just flat footed and come forward like I could have out boxed easily. I said, no, I'm gonna go the total toe with that girl and I would show Baldiqua, Puerto Rico and Mexican fighters they bring the best out of each other.

00:28:20
Speaker 2: And I did. It was a ten round wall.

00:28:22
Speaker 1: We was both bloody, and I became on disputer that night and my outfit was all bloody down to my sneakers.

00:28:30
Speaker 2: But people remember, people remember that.

00:28:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. One of my favorite boxes of all time was Diego Corral Beach.

00:28:38
Speaker 9: It was.

00:28:41
Speaker 3: Rogotti. These are guys that they hit the floor and they get back up and knocked you out. Then you knock them out again, and they knocked you out in there. That's the real.

00:28:52
Speaker 1: Ship now is everything is a business now. These people they want they babysit thereunder fitted records. They don't want to take her chances I have. I have four losses down on my record, but listen, I'm still number one, one of the powerful pound best female fighters. People love to see me fight because I wasn't taught boxing. I was taught to be a fighter. I am a fighter first, and then yes, I can box if I want to.

00:29:16
Speaker 3: But I don't want to.

00:29:17
Speaker 2: Plus, these girls don't hit that hard, so they hard. I I will be a little like keep my hand up.

00:29:24
Speaker 3: But but no, Yes, shout out to that Gaget told me you were him spar when y'all was KidSing. Yeah, he said you want Yeah, he said you won't come up. He said, he was like, oh my god, I better wash it with this girl. This girl, you let him up.

00:29:41
Speaker 2: Yeah he knows, he knows, but I can't find him.

00:29:45
Speaker 3: Now, you're crazy, he was.

00:29:47
Speaker 5: No.

00:29:47
Speaker 3: I always said to myself, I said to myself, because I don't sleep on nobody. You know, almost got beat up by Roy Jones one time. You can't be a great storyteller if you don't tell the way. And of course I gotta say the truth. Broy Jos came to me, He's gonna knock me out. I was grabbing his wrists like this, like chance, don't knock me out, cham chill. I knew what he was gonna do. And it wasn't even gonna He ain't had to go like that. He just found real quick he'd have put me out. I got it, you know. And so I always watched and I said, damn, man, you know what a female could knock a dude out? I don't care, like it's there like like, let me leave that. You think a female boxer ever knocked her husband out, like caught him cheating or some wild ship there and put him out, right, Ain't nobody bragging about that ship? Right? The losses with what you gotta say, the losses with the way, I don't think nobody. I think motherfucker like yo, she was laying lea though she put me out the but she smoke yo. Oh, but you gotta you gotta be careful, you know. And hip hop were almost like boxes. We gotta have an undefeated record. The many you on camera getting your ass what you don't like that rapping no more? It's over. You ever knew that? Yeah? I never got my ask? All right, I no no mo thing is. I had be for fifty cent for six years, and I knew wherever I seen him he was gonna fight or worse every day. I knew I could be on World Star. He might be on World Star. That's a different type of waking up in the morning. But that's a different kind of Christmas. It's like, and I fat Joe, he cocked Digel fifty cent. I'm like, yo, man, wherever I see him, the shit gotta get. What do you want to do? Your James were putting you on the fucking couch next show James cock Diesel. They don't like that. They don't like that.

00:31:52
Speaker 5: That's a flag these people crazy. What's the one thing you want? New fans did understand about female box.

00:32:03
Speaker 2: Listen, we're we're here. We put in the work just like the men do.

00:32:08
Speaker 1: We sacrificing our lives, our brain, our bodies, and we want to entertain you guys. We want to go out there and we want to be able to make some money like the men. We want to be able to showcase our skills like the men. But now, little by little, I'm so glad that I opened a lot of doors for these women. You know, because of me, MVP, they took a chance with a woman. They weren't sure what women can do. I went out and I proved that women are marketable. We can't fight, we're champions, we're talented. So now I have a whole, my whole rocess over forty.

00:32:48
Speaker 3: Women, and I'm great gardener.

00:32:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's part of attained. She's a beautiful girl in and out the ring. You know, she does her thing, and you know the future is it's right for her and all the girls on the team.

00:33:02
Speaker 3: Yeah. Who's some of the other young up and cooming female boxes. Who's the girl you mentoring you mentioned?

00:33:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, I managed to alis. She's twenty years old. She's turning over nine knockouts.

00:33:13
Speaker 2: She reminds me.

00:33:14
Speaker 3: Before you, before she was probably never even had a fight. You was on you saying, yo, she's gonna be a chip.

00:33:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw be putting a beat on. She's still coming back.

00:33:25
Speaker 3: I'm yo, man, I wish you could live fast, But man, I wish you could be sixty beat man. Oh my god, I wish man the boy. Let me tell you, boy, she don't play that ship man. And Yo, you know she loves sneaking. She took it easy today.

00:33:42
Speaker 2: On us with I'm trying to try to be like big bro here, you know.

00:33:48
Speaker 3: And it's sort of collection and all that. Yeah, Jordan, and I'm onto you like I've been told them. I was like, Yo, Reggie, this the girls she fights Jordan's, but.

00:34:00
Speaker 2: Need to give them another call.

00:34:03
Speaker 3: Man, we wait them last. I swear to God that didn't it happen? Make it happen, Reggie, tell me about it. Rag y'all got to give it that ship like do a fucking pe with or something like. She deserves it. You be you be fighting this legal Well it is now.

00:34:20
Speaker 2: If it wasn't, I made it.

00:34:24
Speaker 3: She's going to ring with Jordan's.

00:34:26
Speaker 1: Twenty nineteen, I started my first time worring. You know what's so funny, it was that it was a beautiful thing. As a kid, I was never poor, I was never I had a beautiful family. My dad always worked to make sure we had food on the table and a boof over my head. So my first pair of Jordan's was in twenty nineteen the Concours eleven, and that was the first time that I fought with them.

00:34:49
Speaker 2: Was that same sneaker that I fought with a made history.

00:34:53
Speaker 1: Became a seven division world champion in thirty five seconds with those sneakers on.

00:34:57
Speaker 2: So it's like cool, like my first pair of Jordans, I wore them in a fight again.

00:35:01
Speaker 5: To Jordans, deale Man Jordan's family reach out to people's doing.

00:35:06
Speaker 3: The right thing. I'm told them already. You know, I've been showing them for the job. Like I'm like, look, she walks in the ring with the Jordans, just the one and.

00:35:15
Speaker 2: The Jordan's that you buy in the store.

00:35:18
Speaker 5: Nah.

00:35:20
Speaker 3: He was just let me tell you to me and this guy, oh, we have a serious problem with sneaches. Like the first thing we did we see each other. He was like, yo, I caught these. I caught those. You heard these are coming out? These are over here. We did. We went to la and lost our mind all Star weekend. He's in one store. I'm in one store. He's in one store. I'm in one store. He's in one store, and were just getting sneakers. We buying sneakers.

00:35:45
Speaker 2: I love watching Listen, I'm not definitely not a sneakerhead.

00:35:50
Speaker 1: I have lost I just love sneakers and I've been by ever since Diaversts twenty nineteen. I just been into them, into Jordan's and now I'm going over to Adidas Balance. But your collection is amazing, Like it's like pound for pound number one, number one, and I'm like, even going through the elevator.

00:36:11
Speaker 9: To see Purple Ray, Purple Ray, I think one nigger. Sorry not, he's not even close to my whole collection.

00:36:23
Speaker 3: That I have. Yeah, but you want to know why. It's the love. And let me tell you something about collecting sneakers. Just buying sneakers. You never know in the future that sneaker might turn into something worth ten twenty thousand dollars. There's plenty of sneakers I've bought dead. We bought them when they first came out, and four years later they worth seven thousand, ten thousand. Like it just be like a jewel that everybody want to get their hands on.

00:36:53
Speaker 2: You need to take me shopping one day. I need to get a couple of jewels.

00:36:57
Speaker 3: Got the retirement, I got you.

00:37:01
Speaker 2: That's that's he definitely definitely inspired me.

00:37:04
Speaker 3: You need them Pink and Max. They just came out for the girls. The Pink and Max. You need the air Max ninety five. The pink joints came out for the girls. They ain't come out for the Well. I got them, oh Brigan, I got hi yesterday, got the girl's size. They don't need come out and girls. Damn how I get them? I got them. They got girls with feet. That's your side, that's great, But I get so upset they these I thought were gonna be girls and they came out for guys, and I get so upset because y'all get the fly colors, the women get the Flyes colors. I'm going and they be like nahs for girls. I'm like, yo, my man, like I can't get them. Shit. Guys were smaller feet, they lucky, like, may what do you what's man? Eight and a half? Nine? No, you used to bene and a half? Now you you know your feet lose weight for a nine and a half to eat news way well feet that he had. How hard is that? When I when I see fighters getting ready to get weighing and all that, and they got to lose an extra two to three pounds.

00:38:18
Speaker 2: Lucky, I never had to.

00:38:20
Speaker 1: I never lostnything on the scale, like I never lost anthy of my titles. I've always come in professional. I always make sure I do what I have to. But it's very hard, and it's funny me going up in division is a lot harder than me losing weight.

00:38:33
Speaker 2: I'm a small girl.

00:38:34
Speaker 1: I went down to I want want to title, I want fifteen, but going up to like one thirty, that's a little rough for me because I walk around at want thirty five and once I start training, the weight just comes off so easy, and I have to go after the gym, stuff my face.

00:38:50
Speaker 3: And eat and it is so you got to do the reversal. Yes, you gotta worry about JN. You gotta work out there.

00:38:57
Speaker 1: And to me, that's hard because when you feel so stuff and sluggage, you don't perform the same way and you're steel heavy. Like I feel my best featherweight one twenty six, and that's where I am the championnified champion. So to me, I'm undefeated a featherweight and I want twenty six. But when I go up, I'm taking chances, and those girls are going up as well, they'll drop down and they'll make the way, but then the day shooting back up after.

00:39:22
Speaker 3: The weight something I'm never understood, right, and you could you can let me know because this is your life, right. Obviously you can't take a three hundred and fifty pound guy to fight one hundred and fifty pounds fight, But is it really make a difference four pounds and five paids when they're like, yo, I gotta go with five pounds to come down from It does.

00:39:42
Speaker 2: Because listen from one twenty six to one thirty five.

00:39:45
Speaker 3: I don't know.

00:39:46
Speaker 1: I'm not a fox, but what they do, they they're straining themselves. They're making that weight the day of the way, and they make whatever weight they have to make. But then after that you start eating, you still walking up, you start you get all that weight. So okay, when I fo Katie Taylor, the fight was that the first time was at one thirty five. I weighed in what one thirty three? Well thirty three she weighed and wan thirty four. But I'm a natural featherweight. So the night that we checked in, like we did the mock weigh in, I was one thirty two. I lost the pound from from the way into she went on the scale, she was about one forty something right, one fifty five.

00:40:26
Speaker 2: So she she goes up.

00:40:28
Speaker 1: So the night of the fight, and that's just like there's like three that's like tree and then she eat to your four more meals. So the night of the fight, I'm going in there fighting a girl one hundred and fifty five pounds while I'm one hundred and thirty three pounds.

00:40:43
Speaker 3: Wow, So that makes a difference. That's crazy.

00:40:46
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:40:46
Speaker 1: So that's why I always say I'm the best. I'm the Queen had feather weigh I got.

00:40:52
Speaker 2: It's hard.

00:40:53
Speaker 1: That's where I feel my best at Every time I go up, I'm taking a chance, and not too many people, not too many girls or men are men or taking those chances or take making those sacrifices to be great. You know, I'm the first and only seven division world champion, and to me that's a bigger accomplishment than any other thing, because it's not easy going up and down and wait, and especially winning in higher weights, where I feel like the definitely.

00:41:18
Speaker 3: Side you never ducked nobody, because you know, somebody going seven divisions and winning. That's another thing. You know what I'm saying about boxes where boxes, you know, Duck other people. You know, maybe I don't know the game, but when they heard Ali was fighting everybody, you know, the boxers was fighting people back in the Yeah.

00:41:42
Speaker 2: No, I'm telling you now.

00:41:43
Speaker 1: Now it's a business, like even for me now at this part of my career, like towards the end, Joe, you know, I fought in the beginning of my career for for peanuts, Like there was championship fights, like I tied with Cao becoming a full division world champion for four that's the lowest fifteen hundred, fifty hundred dollars for a world title, one thousand, five hundred for And you have to remember that these sanctioned fees, they take a percentage of the trainer fees, the cut man, all that. So by the time I'm looking at my account, I got like two hundred and fifty dollars.

00:42:25
Speaker 3: Remember W Tank. I used to do shows with Wo Tank. We used to get five hundred dollars a show. They had thirteen dudes breaking all five hundred dollars. I'm over here with five hundred out like this ship was crazy. I was like, Yo, how are these guys gonna make it like this? Shit? It ain't nothing but McDonald's after that.

00:42:46
Speaker 2: But now lucky I can. I can eat at expensive restaurants.

00:42:49
Speaker 1: Before I couldn't. Exactly before I had to go to the dollar menu. But it's it's amazing how it became like full circle. So now that I'm in this part of my career.

00:43:01
Speaker 3: In a relationship in in like because we ain't never see you booed up, nothing like that. You ain't never doing that when I retired. Oh yeah, but when you retired you might get nowhere. Of course, I mean way I stay. I didn't say anything, not because she's been so dedicated that that's the one takes.

00:43:24
Speaker 1: Dedication and us still the greatness require sacrifice. I sacrificed my life to this get it, and obviously I think it's worked.

00:43:33
Speaker 2: Look where I'm at right now, I'm on the Don Show.

00:43:37
Speaker 3: I'm not no real guilt talking to you your face. If you never want to be in that's on you. But I'm I've seen that.

00:43:45
Speaker 2: But I've seen it. I've been around it.

00:43:47
Speaker 1: And even as a younger teenager being in the gym watching these men and they having girlfriends and they being stressed out. Even my sister and Jordan, her husband, her husband is her trainer, was our trainer, it's our trainer. And sometimes they will have arguments and my sister would be upset or you.

00:44:06
Speaker 3: Know one I had a friend that was a box that you had a girlfriend and yeah, I've seen it drive some nuts. So the training camp to come back in town.

00:44:17
Speaker 1: Boxing with boxing brings me all the same emotions and so I'm happy, I'm sad, I'm crying, I'm I'm excited. So I think when i retire, then I'll have time for myself. I'll be able to fight long in the sunset, maybe with a blue.

00:44:31
Speaker 3: Things and maybe maybe you'll be eating the cocaanut on the beach opinion cocaut on the beach and a not like that. M v P. The m v P Women Boxing is coming on ESPN when it starts, so.

00:44:51
Speaker 1: Excited it starts well, the debut starts April or fifth or six, I'm not sure in the UK, but that's on Sky Sports, but it's going to be on the e ESPN app. But the first official on ESPN ESPN is April seventeen at the Garden and that's where Alicia Bomb going a headlining the friendly.

00:45:11
Speaker 2: Her titles so Super excited for her.

00:45:13
Speaker 3: And another question I just thought about, right, aren't you like the highest paid one female boxer ever for a fight?

00:45:22
Speaker 2: I am, I am, I'm the first.

00:45:27
Speaker 5: Yo.

00:45:30
Speaker 2: It's truly an honor. Listen.

00:45:32
Speaker 1: I was the first female to get a million dollars. And I say the first because it was a Katie Taylor fight. So my team came back to me and said, we're going to give you a million dollars. We were so excited, so happy, so proud of that accomplishment that my manager, Jordan' said we have to announce this because we have to show women that we can do it.

00:45:52
Speaker 2: We broke that Barry, we broke that stilling. Let's do it. So when Jordan did that, Katie Taylor was like, wait, wait, wait a minute.

00:46:00
Speaker 1: How much you're getting because she wasn't getting that much, She wasn't getting that much.

00:46:05
Speaker 3: Hurt to go.

00:46:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was a champion. I was a contender. But so the Hot team was like, okay, we'll give you the mill. So we both end up getting a mill that that fight, that night.

00:46:18
Speaker 2: That was April.

00:46:19
Speaker 1: I mean, some people claim that they're the first, but in my calculations, in my calendar, April comes before.

00:46:28
Speaker 3: You know.

00:46:31
Speaker 1: I'm so so proud, so proud of that that moment, and look at we're getting. Not that wasn't my only fight with I mean a million, I made millions. I'm a mostly millionaire, and I'm.

00:46:43
Speaker 2: So proud of saying that.

00:46:46
Speaker 3: You know, you know what's crazy is or what's not crazy, but you know what's the biggest blessing? And I think me and Fever was talking about this what our lost feed a lost, that feeding somebody is the biggest thing you could do while you're on earth. So not only you didn't just say this is for me, I want all the money, I want all of this. You opened up the lane for other females to come after you to eat and not get taken it so they don't have to get paid fifteen hundred for their champions. Yeah, and that is big. And so I believe that that's the type of stuff you get judged with because when you die, they're not gonna say, damn Fajo was looking fly hell on his shit. They gonna say, y'all, he fed some people, man, He opened the doors for some people. He took care of his people, his community. That's where it's hat man, And so that's beautiful that you just didn't want to say, y'all. I want to be the only you know, there's people like that. I want to be the only one to eat. I don't want nobody to eat. I want to be there. And so that's commendable that you're opening the doors for the woman.

00:47:59
Speaker 1: That's something I can and I love. I'm a ladies lady. I love empowering women. They always say empowered women, empower women, and that's what I'm going to continue to do and I love it. I love seeing these girls, bro, Like I have another girl, Crystal Rosato, Puerto Rican girl. She for her pro debut, she made more money than I did at my championship level. So just to see that, I'm like, man, look look how far we've come. Look what I'm able to give to these young ladies.

00:48:28
Speaker 3: That's a beautiful thing, yo, This thing that that ain't this it's cracking. Kiss. Make some noise for the real deal, a man that's around now.