Rumors that Titanfall 3 is Near Complete

<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody, welcome to game Breaking News with me Jeff
<v Speaker 1>Grub your host from giant bomb dot com, and my
<v Speaker 1>name is not coldl Walk. Thank you for tuning in.
<v Speaker 1>In this episode, we're gonna be talking about companies getting
<v Speaker 1>ready for summer game Fest and ease titan Fall really
<v Speaker 1>returning this time. We'll see it's gonna be a good one,
<v Speaker 1>and we have Jason Fonelli on the show. Jason, how
<v Speaker 1>are you doing?
<v Speaker 2>I am treading water, but no, I'm doing I'm doing
<v Speaker 2>all right. Everything's fine.
<v Speaker 1>You know.
<v Speaker 2>We're just keeping our heads above above water as best
<v Speaker 2>we can. Seeing the news titles, the news cycles choose
<v Speaker 2>us up and spits us out. But we're doing good.
<v Speaker 2>Everything's great, having a good time before we get started,
<v Speaker 2>if you don't mind, which would like to show some
<v Speaker 2>appreciation to a member of the community. I gotta I
<v Speaker 2>gotta DM Jen. Jen the man Ochoa slid into my
<v Speaker 2>DMS yesterday or Monday, excuse me two days ago telling
<v Speaker 2>me about an email that hit the BombCast email address,
<v Speaker 2>and I just want to read this. It says, just
<v Speaker 2>want to say that I've really enjoyed Jason Finelli being
<v Speaker 2>featured on some Giant bomb content as of late, I've
<v Speaker 2>never heard of him before a game mess morning appearance
<v Speaker 2>and became a fan instantly. Just want to send some
<v Speaker 2>positive vibes and feedback to the whole crew and Jason
<v Speaker 2>in particular, loving the content, and big ups to the
<v Speaker 2>crew for keeping me entertained throughout the week. I need
<v Speaker 2>you to know whoever wrote that email, how absolutely touched
<v Speaker 2>I was to see that. That is people love amazing,
<v Speaker 2>Whoever whoever sent that, how.
<v Speaker 1>Everyone the community feels though. I get that message all
<v Speaker 1>the time about you specifically, people love you. You fit
<v Speaker 1>in great. I love having you on the show for sure,
<v Speaker 1>So I'm glad someone stepped up and said it.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I just wanted to make sure that the Internet
<v Speaker 2>spends way too much time negatively reacting to things, So
<v Speaker 2>the fact that I got a positive reaction that warrants
<v Speaker 2>its own positive reaction, I had to had to make
<v Speaker 2>sure I took care of that.
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, yeah, that's and that's good. Like he go
<v Speaker 1>out there and tell somebody you like some of their
<v Speaker 1>stuff this week, let's get like that going again a
<v Speaker 1>little bit. There's not much else we could trade on
<v Speaker 1>these days, so let's let's do some of that I'll
<v Speaker 1>do that myself. I'll get out there and tell some
<v Speaker 1>people who's stuff I enjoy that I'm down with them.
<v Speaker 1>Always a good thing, Yeah, that I have with them. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I mean got the news is like I've been trying
<v Speaker 1>to keep up with it, and then I'm like, oh,
<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't try to keep up with it. Doesn't mean
<v Speaker 1>it's not doing me any good. But I saw like
<v Speaker 1>US treasury bonds, right, I'm like, wait, my understanding is
<v Speaker 1>in moments like this, where people are expecting inflation and
<v Speaker 1>they're expecting a weak economy all these other things, typically
<v Speaker 1>these treasury bonds become they go high and demand, and
<v Speaker 1>what's happening right now is that they're not and that
<v Speaker 1>the interest rates on them are shooting up, so like
<v Speaker 1>mortgage rates are going to go up all this other stuff,
<v Speaker 1>which doesn't make any sense with everything else that's happening.
<v Speaker 1>And seemingly the reason is all the countries that we
<v Speaker 1>do business with, right they buy, they or they sell
<v Speaker 1>stuff in this country, and we've started a trade war
<v Speaker 1>with them, and now they so what they traditionally do
<v Speaker 1>is they have all these dollars that they get and
<v Speaker 1>they don't transfer all of that into their home currency.
<v Speaker 1>A lot of times they take a bulk of that
<v Speaker 1>money and they buy US Treasury bonds. So it's like,
<v Speaker 1>we can use these dollars and we can invest it,
<v Speaker 1>and we can get paid back by the United States.
<v Speaker 1>It's one of the safest havens for our money going forward. Well,
<v Speaker 1>now the industry keeps going up because no one seems
<v Speaker 1>to want these things, even though the stock market is
<v Speaker 1>in shambles. So the sign there is like, oh, these
<v Speaker 1>things are splitting apart in a way where something's going
<v Speaker 1>to break. Because if people no longer see the United
<v Speaker 1>States bonds as a safe haven, what do people do next?
<v Speaker 1>Or what is this country next? Really, it sounds like
<v Speaker 1>these other countries are selling off all of their bonds
<v Speaker 1>that they have because they don't want to do business
<v Speaker 1>with us and they want to hurt us. And uh,
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'm definitely I'm definitely coming out of
<v Speaker 1>reading the news this morning, Jason thinking oh, things could
<v Speaker 1>get much worse. So what's going to happen next? Who
<v Speaker 1>the hell knows? It is frightening times.
<v Speaker 2>Like you want to every every news article you read,
<v Speaker 2>you want to think, yeah, the floor, we've hit the floor.
<v Speaker 2>But then you realize, yeah, you might have hit the floor,
<v Speaker 2>but you're still upstairs. You haven't even hit the middle floor,
<v Speaker 2>let alone the basement. Yet. You just don't know. And honestly,
<v Speaker 2>I'm not surprised, because it turns out that people around
<v Speaker 2>the world are not into the living embodiment of small
<v Speaker 2>dick energy. So here we are dealing with this crap
<v Speaker 2>because of what's going on outside of our control. And
<v Speaker 2>and you and I and everyone in the chat from America.
<v Speaker 2>I know lex is floating around in there that doesn't
<v Speaker 2>apply to them, but you know it's gonna hurt us
<v Speaker 2>more than it's gonna hurt the person pushing the buttons.
<v Speaker 2>And that all just makes it even more infiording, yeah, all.
<v Speaker 1>Right, Well, didn't mean to get us started off on that,
<v Speaker 1>but it's like I can't stop thinking about it, really
<v Speaker 1>uh gnawing at me. But let's list say what we
<v Speaker 1>do here.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I see the first I see the first article
<v Speaker 2>you've written here. We're gonna disappoint.
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<v Speaker 1>All right, we have a lot to get into, so
<v Speaker 1>let's start the show with. Here's a story from Insider Gaming.
<v Speaker 1>Titan Fall three is almost complete, says leak, and has campaign,
<v Speaker 1>multiplayer and ex Legends content. Here is a summary of
<v Speaker 1>the story from Insider Gaming. Recent reports and leaks suggest
<v Speaker 1>Titanfall three, a highly anticipated sequel, is nearing completion after
<v Speaker 1>previous cancelations and development rumors, and an Apex Legends leaker
<v Speaker 1>claims the game is almost finished and will utilize Unreal
<v Speaker 1>Engine five, featuring a single player campaign, live service elements
<v Speaker 1>with battle passes in extraction mode, classic titan Fall two
<v Speaker 1>multiplayer modes, returning Apex characters and a weather system. A
<v Speaker 1>potential release has generated excitement given Titanfall two's acclaimed campaign
<v Speaker 1>and multiplayer, along with a possible Apex Legends crossover. This
<v Speaker 1>is in real. I'm sorry, it's not real, Okay, So
<v Speaker 1>let's get into the details here of like what could
<v Speaker 1>be happening at Respawn. There is a skunk Works team
<v Speaker 1>headed up by Titanfall one director Steve Fakuda. He's got
<v Speaker 1>a small team over there that is probably messing around
<v Speaker 1>with like games that have Titans in them, right, titan
<v Speaker 1>Fall one creator over there, messing around with the small
<v Speaker 1>team prototyping stuff the way Respawn has traditionally done. So
<v Speaker 1>does he have something that, like a prototype that has
<v Speaker 1>Titans in it? I would guess. So. I don't know
<v Speaker 1>for sure, but I would certainly assume that that is
<v Speaker 1>a safe thing to think. Now, is that coming? You're
<v Speaker 1>going to get announced in twenty twenty five and released
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty six. No way, no way, if that
<v Speaker 1>Steve Akuda thing it even happens. Because let's look at
<v Speaker 1>what EA has done to RESPWND recently. Cancel game, cancel game,
<v Speaker 1>cancel game, everything except for Apex Legends and Star Wars
<v Speaker 1>Jedi and then that Bitreactor game. They're they're working in
<v Speaker 1>a partnership with those are the only things left that
<v Speaker 1>are really going concerns. Everything else has been canceled, including
<v Speaker 1>what sounded like an incredible Star Wars first person shooter
<v Speaker 1>titan Fall Legends, a previous version of titan Fall three
<v Speaker 1>that was going to be this new mode in Apex
<v Speaker 1>Legends that was going to have single player stuff and
<v Speaker 1>it was going to take like concept from Hades and
<v Speaker 1>apply it to the single player campaign that that you
<v Speaker 1>got from in titan Fall two. Yeah, that stuff wasn't
<v Speaker 1>the works. It's been that's long scrapped, long canceled at
<v Speaker 1>this point, So do not expect an Unreal Engine five
<v Speaker 1>single player campaign titan Fall three with multiplayer, with a
<v Speaker 1>full multiplayer suite with weather whatever that means. I'm not
<v Speaker 1>really sure where this is coming from, Jason, and I
<v Speaker 1>hate to be like, hey, let's rain on the parade,
<v Speaker 1>but don't get your hopes up for Titanfall anytime soon.
<v Speaker 2>No, I agree, And this report didn't pass the smell
<v Speaker 2>tests just reading the paragraph that you've just read it,
<v Speaker 2>and the reason being, I have noticed that the more
<v Speaker 2>Elite promises, the more chance it's wrong. This promise true
<v Speaker 2>on Religion five single player live service extraction classic titan
<v Speaker 2>to multiplayer, returning Apex characters, weather system, potential Apex level.
<v Speaker 2>There's too much here and almost done. That I think
<v Speaker 2>was what it clinched it for me. All of this
<v Speaker 2>is coming and it's almost done. I know it pains
<v Speaker 2>me to say it, because titan Fall two is wonderful
<v Speaker 2>and deserve to follow up. But I am with you
<v Speaker 2>in that if anything is happening, it is nowhere near complete.
<v Speaker 2>It's in concept or prototype, and that's it. I would
<v Speaker 2>agree that they are probably using the as you mentioned,
<v Speaker 2>the Titan Fall, the Titan mechanics or technology for something.
<v Speaker 2>But for all we know, this prototype could adapt that
<v Speaker 2>sort of tech into a Star Wars game. You know
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying. That is a universe that could feasibly
<v Speaker 2>have that sort of tech in it. We don't know
<v Speaker 2>if it's for titan Fall or not. I am not
<v Speaker 2>surprised that this isn't real. I figured it wasn't as
<v Speaker 2>soon as I saw it. Partially because I want titan
<v Speaker 2>Fall three really bad and I'm ready to get hurt again,
<v Speaker 2>and partially because, like I said, it just promised way
<v Speaker 2>too much. I would love to be wrong that this
<v Speaker 2>is something I would love to be wrong about and
<v Speaker 2>I will gladly eat that crow if I am, but
<v Speaker 2>or if we are, I guess, But no, I'm sorry, guys,
<v Speaker 2>I can't.
<v Speaker 1>No, Yeah, I do like want to like talk to
<v Speaker 1>you about, like what is the reason that we don't
<v Speaker 1>get a titan Fall three, Like like what is happening
<v Speaker 1>at a corporation like EA where they did have something
<v Speaker 1>like titan Fall Legends in the works and they couldn't
<v Speaker 1>figure out a way to make it make sense? Like
<v Speaker 1>why is gaming the way it is? Right now? What
<v Speaker 1>do you think?
<v Speaker 2>I think instability from outside forces that we spoke about
<v Speaker 2>earlier be damned. I think just because the last couple
<v Speaker 2>of years, with all of the turmoil and turnover and
<v Speaker 2>things like that, big corporations like this are just sticking
<v Speaker 2>to their best chances, let's say. And as much as
<v Speaker 2>there was a groundswell of support for titan Fall, I
<v Speaker 2>don't remember it selling well, right, I don't remember titan
<v Speaker 2>Fall two selling well, and.
<v Speaker 1>Just that Aloneween Battlefield another YA game, and as Paul Newty,
<v Speaker 1>it was like released right between those, it just never stood.
<v Speaker 2>A chance, right right, And I think that that even
<v Speaker 2>though those circumstances and now we're coming on eleven years
<v Speaker 2>since that actually happened, I believe twenty fourteen. It's just
<v Speaker 2>I think they're too afraid right now. I think, especially
<v Speaker 2>with everything going on, they only want sure things, or
<v Speaker 2>as much of a sure thing as they can predict.
<v Speaker 2>Star Wars Jedi probably as close to a short thing
<v Speaker 2>as they can predict. At Respawn titan Fall legends. While
<v Speaker 2>it would have been appreciated, I don't think it would
<v Speaker 2>have had the impact that a new Star Wars Jedi
<v Speaker 2>game would have had or would have, And that's why
<v Speaker 2>those resources are now being dedicated there. It's not to
<v Speaker 2>say that there will never be a brand new titan
<v Speaker 2>Fall game. Ever, this isn't Star Tropics. They're gonna see
<v Speaker 2>it at some point.
<v Speaker 1>But go to Hell's Star Tropics fans.
<v Speaker 2>But I don't know if or when that's going to happen.
<v Speaker 2>If it's this prototype. If it's a prototype, we're talking
<v Speaker 2>what four or five years? If that could be more
<v Speaker 2>if it's just a prototype. So who knows. But to
<v Speaker 2>answer your question, I just think a lot of these
<v Speaker 2>bigger companies, even looking at someone like Ubisoft and whatever
<v Speaker 2>the hell's going on over there, company like EA is like,
<v Speaker 2>we just have to stick to what we know makes
<v Speaker 2>us money, and that's EA Sports and from Respawse case
<v Speaker 2>Star Wars.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that's That's definitely how it went down
<v Speaker 1>with Titanfall Legends. One is they were looking at, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna bolster Apex Legends with this stuff. Now, let's
<v Speaker 1>look at the timeline. Do we think the amount of
<v Speaker 1>money it takes to make this investment, to make all
<v Speaker 1>this stuff will be returned to us in new support
<v Speaker 1>for Apex going forward. And sure, I dislike as much
<v Speaker 1>as anyone else said the fact that Titan Fall's fate
<v Speaker 1>was tied to that, but that seemed to give it
<v Speaker 1>the best chance, and even that they were looking at
<v Speaker 1>it like, no, what we'd rather do? And this is
<v Speaker 1>in that moment. I think things have probably changed a
<v Speaker 1>little bit, But in that moment they were saying, we'd
<v Speaker 1>rather just sort of keep Apex Legends in a stasis
<v Speaker 1>mode and maybe not maintenance mode, but let it slowly
<v Speaker 1>just like get smaller and smaller updates, fewer and fewer
<v Speaker 1>big investments in terms of new ideas and new stuff,
<v Speaker 1>and just kind of squeeze what we can from the
<v Speaker 1>remainder of the next five to six years from that game,
<v Speaker 1>and then kind of in that time get ready to
<v Speaker 1>make something else and launch something else so we can
<v Speaker 1>follow it up. And that was not going to be
<v Speaker 1>That was never going to be Titanfall, and so yeah,
<v Speaker 1>they decided against Titanfaule Legends in that moment, and I
<v Speaker 1>think if anything's changed, it is them thinking maybe we
<v Speaker 1>could reinvest in Apex Legends in other ways, and it's like,
<v Speaker 1>oh man, why couldn't you just bridge those two things
<v Speaker 1>and come to that conclusion whilst still making Titanfall Legends
<v Speaker 1>and just rework whatever you had to make it make
<v Speaker 1>the most sense. I think all anyone really wanted was
<v Speaker 1>a Titan Fall campaign and some Titans in Apex Legends,
<v Speaker 1>or obviously I want more than that, but I think
<v Speaker 1>I would have happily settled for that. If there was
<v Speaker 1>this titan Fall campaign to kind of get me back
<v Speaker 1>in through the gateway for Apex Legends and then I
<v Speaker 1>go in to the multiplayer mode and there's dedicated Titan modes.
<v Speaker 1>I think that would have been fantastic. But here we are.
<v Speaker 1>We people still are holding a torch for this one,
<v Speaker 1>and I don't blame anyone for that, but it's not
<v Speaker 1>coming back.
<v Speaker 2>I wonder too if the failure of Apex Legends Mobile
<v Speaker 2>may have scared them away of making any big changes
<v Speaker 2>to Apex Legends in general, because they really thought that
<v Speaker 2>that was going to be a huge mobile driver for them,
<v Speaker 2>just as the console version was, and then it just
<v Speaker 2>disappeared like they just fell off the face of the earth.
<v Speaker 2>So I wonder if.
<v Speaker 1>That was on Switch. It was like, you know, Partnight
<v Speaker 1>makes a lot of money on Switch, Apex Legends made
<v Speaker 1>nothing on there, No.
<v Speaker 2>Did not, So I wonder if there if there's if
<v Speaker 2>there is enough anxiety I guess surrounding the core Apex
<v Speaker 2>Legends experience that they don't want to rock the boat
<v Speaker 2>any more than they have to, So that might play
<v Speaker 2>into this as well.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, it's a it's a shame. I loved and Fall
<v Speaker 1>both one and two. I love those games. Played a
<v Speaker 1>thousand hours of titan Fall one. I think Titan Fall
<v Speaker 1>two the campaign is one of the best games I've
<v Speaker 1>ever played. It just straight up is incredible. It's like
<v Speaker 1>Super Super Mario Galaxy two in terms of the inventiveness
<v Speaker 1>and how many cool ideas are in that game. And
<v Speaker 1>I hope that that knowledge because really, what's happened here
<v Speaker 1>Jason with with Respawn, Well, EA has fumbled the bag
<v Speaker 1>and not really been able to take a lot of
<v Speaker 1>these great the great elements that made Respawn special, which
<v Speaker 1>is it's tendency to prototype for several several years, come
<v Speaker 1>up with a lot a lot of ideas, and then
<v Speaker 1>make a game based on all of these great ideas.
<v Speaker 1>That is their their method. They you know, two and
<v Speaker 1>a half years of prototyping, two and a half years
<v Speaker 1>of hard development and product design and all that stuff,
<v Speaker 1>and that really worked and they, like EA, we fell
<v Speaker 1>in love with it for a moment. But of course
<v Speaker 1>EA shortsighted has already abandoned that. So what's happened is
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the people that were key to Respawn
<v Speaker 1>their stocks vested. They they made their money, and they
<v Speaker 1>have used that money as a backbone to support their lives.
<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't know anyone personally, I've never like
<v Speaker 1>asked them about this, but I do know many have
<v Speaker 1>left taken investment from other companies to start their own
<v Speaker 1>development studios. And there are at least like three or
<v Speaker 1>four of these Respawn you know, the coaching Tree Coaching,
<v Speaker 1>Tree of Development studios that are going to come back
<v Speaker 1>with products that I think we're probably going to be
<v Speaker 1>more interested in, and I hope a lot of them
<v Speaker 1>hit very hard. But what we're gonna have to wait
<v Speaker 1>and see. In the meantime. If you're looking to respawn
<v Speaker 1>for more titan Fall, sorry, just not gonna happen. All right,
<v Speaker 1>let's move on here. Xbox Games Showcase twenty twenty five,
<v Speaker 1>followed by the Outer World's two direct, is set for
<v Speaker 1>June eighth, Summer Game Fest. The season is basically upon us.
<v Speaker 1>You and I were talking already, starting to get emails,
<v Speaker 1>and we're starting to talk about like GB at night
<v Speaker 1>and stuff over here. So it's coming. This is from
<v Speaker 1>Salamano at Gamoka. Oh yeah, sleep there, but for sure
<v Speaker 1>I will snuggle. Xbox Games Showcase twenty twenty five air
<v Speaker 1>on June eighth at ten am Pacific time one pm Eastern.
<v Speaker 1>Microsoft announced it will be immediately followed by a special
<v Speaker 1>Deep Dive direct into the Outer Worlds too. You will
<v Speaker 1>be able to watch it on YouTube, Twitch, and Facebook.
<v Speaker 1>The broadcast will feature an upcoming look at titles from
<v Speaker 1>across Xbox Game Studios, as well as new titles from
<v Speaker 1>third party partners across the world. This year, the show
<v Speaker 1>will be digital only in over forty languages. Oh okay,
<v Speaker 1>so they're not doing an in person thing, that's what
<v Speaker 1>that means. Okay, Yeah, for sure, man. So it's basically
<v Speaker 1>just like a Nintendo Direct. Now, interesting, I didn't see
<v Speaker 1>that part before. I put thro us of this news
<v Speaker 1>here and included that last line with.
<v Speaker 2>M Yeah, and they and they actually specified that includes
<v Speaker 2>like the media watch party that was at the what
<v Speaker 2>the Academy of Motion Pictures last year. They're not doing anything, right,
<v Speaker 2>It's just a digital show this Sunday, Sunday, Yeah, Sunday
<v Speaker 2>of Summer Games festive time slot. Just nothing in person yep.
<v Speaker 1>So they Yeah, I am. I'm excited for these. I'm
<v Speaker 1>always excited for these. I think Microsoft has really nailed
<v Speaker 1>their especially their Summer Game Fest showcases the last couple
<v Speaker 1>of years. Last year's was really good. They still have
<v Speaker 1>tons to talk about, even though despite the fact that
<v Speaker 1>they have started releasing their games more frequently, and it
<v Speaker 1>feels like they are hitting that cadence they always promised.
<v Speaker 1>They you know, Perfect Dark isn't here, Fable isn't here.
<v Speaker 1>So that's there's plenty of stuff to talk about. Uh.
<v Speaker 1>The focus on Outer Worlds too also is in surprising.
<v Speaker 1>That's one that they I think they My understanding is
<v Speaker 1>they move that up. They like delayed another game and
<v Speaker 1>I can never remember what it was they got pushed
<v Speaker 1>out of this year and Outer Worlds two got moved
<v Speaker 1>up into this year. Uh. And so that game must
<v Speaker 1>be looking real shit hot for them to put so
<v Speaker 1>much emphasis on it and give it its own, you know, attention.
<v Speaker 1>But also Obsidian has been good to them about I think,
<v Speaker 1>you know, did what it needed to do, and I
<v Speaker 1>think they're ready to like be like, no, this is
<v Speaker 1>a big deal. And my expectation, my expectation always was
<v Speaker 1>for this game is that it would be a major
<v Speaker 1>revamp or major like not reinvention of what the Outer
<v Speaker 1>World was, but a realization of all the promises that
<v Speaker 1>they couldn't get away with the first time with the
<v Speaker 1>first game, as they were just getting development for a
<v Speaker 1>new open world space RPG off the ground with a
<v Speaker 1>who who was the publisher at the time. It was
<v Speaker 1>Take Two's indie label, right, Private Division. I think that's
<v Speaker 1>Private Division, right, It's like, so there were definitely some
<v Speaker 1>like shackles on them and now that stuff off. They
<v Speaker 1>have a proven franchise here. My hope is this really
<v Speaker 1>can be the fully realized idea of what they were
<v Speaker 1>going for. So I'm excited about all this, how about you?
<v Speaker 2>I agree one hundred percent. I like that. I like
<v Speaker 2>that we're talking about Summer Games Fest in general, honestly,
<v Speaker 2>but it's nice to see that they're going to do
<v Speaker 2>the same thing they did last year, Digital or Live whatever.
<v Speaker 2>I do agree that the last couple of years we
<v Speaker 2>really have changed the conversation around them when it turns
<v Speaker 2>in terms of games for their systems, haven't we There
<v Speaker 2>was a time we were talking about what's Xbox got.
<v Speaker 2>Now that conversations completely flipped to the other side, what's
<v Speaker 2>going on over at Sony right, And even this year
<v Speaker 2>things have started strong with avowed South of Midnight reviewed well,
<v Speaker 2>so they have, and Doom is still to come right
<v Speaker 2>before between now and Summer Games Fest. That's the end
<v Speaker 2>of the most awesome. It does look awesome, So there's
<v Speaker 2>a lot a lot to be excited about both the
<v Speaker 2>things we do know. As you mentioned fable, I think
<v Speaker 2>someone to mention contraband is that still a thing what's
<v Speaker 2>going on there? There one more that you said that
<v Speaker 2>is alluding years of war e day. You didn't say that,
<v Speaker 2>but that's another one. And then there's always the stuff
<v Speaker 2>that we don't know about. Is this where oblivion get
<v Speaker 2>shadow dropped? Jeff? Is this where we finally see that
<v Speaker 2>damn bird and bear again, which you can't see but
<v Speaker 2>as off screen here? I want some banjo. I'm it's
<v Speaker 2>saying it for months now. I love this time of year.
<v Speaker 2>It really makes me smile, and I am just as
<v Speaker 2>excited for the things I know are coming from Xbox
<v Speaker 2>as I am for the things that aren't, and I
<v Speaker 2>am looking forward to be wowed on juneith.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, yeah, I think for me, I'm definitely most excited
<v Speaker 1>to see Perfect Arc. I think that last last time
<v Speaker 1>we saw that, it looked really really cool, a lot
<v Speaker 1>of great ideas. Just looked like, let's have a futuristic
<v Speaker 1>spy sci fi game and and then work backward from okay,
<v Speaker 1>well what would like what would be something cool you
<v Speaker 1>could do? And it looked like they had fifteen ideas
<v Speaker 1>for that. So I'm very ready to interact with that
<v Speaker 1>world and not treat it like a just another shooter
<v Speaker 1>or something like that. Treat it like, you know, an
<v Speaker 1>evolution of maybe some m SIM stuff and some other elements,
<v Speaker 1>but all their stuff like really could be very big
<v Speaker 1>for them. So yeah, there is a long list of things.
<v Speaker 1>And you know there's always like games I heard about
<v Speaker 1>a few years ago, like the the Wu Tang Action RTT. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>the Wua group. Yes, I would love to see if
<v Speaker 1>that's still real, no idea. If that's the case, that
<v Speaker 1>would be very cool thing to see. Yeah. Uh, well
<v Speaker 1>Killer Instinct, Yeah that could show back.
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, how did I forget that one?
<v Speaker 1>Oh?
<v Speaker 2>I need that?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And so yeah, I'm just I'm at a point
<v Speaker 1>where I'm excited for what Microsoft has coming and uh
<v Speaker 1>and at this point it's like we're past the point
<v Speaker 1>of them having to make the Xbox make sense. Now
<v Speaker 1>it's just about the games, and I'm like, I'm glad
<v Speaker 1>they sort of pushed through that pain of Okay again,
<v Speaker 1>we're not trying to necessarily sell you sell you an
<v Speaker 1>Xbox anymore. If you want one, we are going to
<v Speaker 1>have one. That's great, But really it's just going to
<v Speaker 1>be about, Hey, we're one of the biggest publishers now
<v Speaker 1>and we have this great you know, crew of developers.
<v Speaker 1>Let's take advantage of that. And I'm looking forward to
<v Speaker 1>seeing what that all means.
<v Speaker 2>And let's not forget everything's an Xbox now, so they
<v Speaker 2>don't want to sell you a console. They could. You
<v Speaker 2>can just buy the game pass and play these games
<v Speaker 2>day one on your phone and your PC or whatever
<v Speaker 2>the heck you want to do it. So I agree
<v Speaker 2>with that one hundred percent. Console, especially now with you
<v Speaker 2>know that that big tea word that we're about to
<v Speaker 2>talk about with a different company. They're not worried about
<v Speaker 2>consoles at the moment because everything's in x YEP.
<v Speaker 1>As far as Oblivion shadow dropping, I still think that's
<v Speaker 1>happening this month. I think that'll happen probably later this month,
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, still this month and when it does shadow drops,
<v Speaker 1>so I guess some what like in what I don't know,
<v Speaker 1>but we'll see.
<v Speaker 2>Can I can I just ask that that doesn't happen.
<v Speaker 2>Can we get it from May first? Because I just
<v Speaker 2>got a game for review a couple of days ago
<v Speaker 2>that I am you not review for one site, feature
<v Speaker 2>for another, and a guide for a third. I need time?
<v Speaker 2>Can you just hold it off for a minute? So
<v Speaker 2>I can get this stuff done and then I can
<v Speaker 2>drop myself into oblivion for a while.
<v Speaker 1>I think I think Phil's listening, so he'll probably make
<v Speaker 1>your which come true. We can see what we can
<v Speaker 1>do here, I Phil, all right, let's see here. Razor
<v Speaker 1>pausing sales in the USS as tariff fears grow. Let's
<v Speaker 1>get back into this. This is from Jordan Midler over
<v Speaker 1>at VGC. Razor has paused sales for several of its
<v Speaker 1>products as fear around tariff's shake the tech industry. As
<v Speaker 1>the impact of US President Donald Trump's trade war is
<v Speaker 1>felt across the technology space. Razor is the latest company
<v Speaker 1>to make the move, seemingly in response to the economic uncertainty.
<v Speaker 1>While tariffs haven't officially been cited as the reason, several
<v Speaker 1>Razor products were suddenly or have suddenly been made unavailable
<v Speaker 1>for pre order, and a statement to the Verge, Razors
<v Speaker 1>public relations relations manager Andy Johnston said, we do not
<v Speaker 1>have a comment at this stage regarding tariffs. Handy's over
<v Speaker 1>at Razor now, the Blade sixteen laptop and several other
<v Speaker 1>laptops that were recently available for pre order have been removed.
<v Speaker 1>At the time of writing, direct links to those pages
<v Speaker 1>were which were previously available now lead to an air message.
<v Speaker 1>A laptop stand, which was supposed to be available now
<v Speaker 1>in the US, is missing from the firm's website, despite
<v Speaker 1>being available in other markets. Production of Razors products is
<v Speaker 1>largely largely centralized in nations that have been severely affected
<v Speaker 1>by tariffs, resulting in the products being far more expensive
<v Speaker 1>to bring into the United States. And it's like it's
<v Speaker 1>getting worse every day. Right. They definitely make stuff in
<v Speaker 1>territories that would be I think hit by the Chinese tariffs.
<v Speaker 1>So those were thirty four percent one day, one hundred
<v Speaker 1>and four percent the next. Now just today China and
<v Speaker 1>that they went up because it's a trade war. So
<v Speaker 1>it's every country they're going tit for tat China in
<v Speaker 1>the United States, and China raise their terrists on the
<v Speaker 1>United States in response in that tit for tat battle.
<v Speaker 1>And so the expectation is now that China has raised
<v Speaker 1>it again after the one hundred and four percent, is
<v Speaker 1>Trump going to back down? Of course he's not. So
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be even higher here pretty soon. It's
<v Speaker 1>just going to get completely out of hand. And really
<v Speaker 1>it's that's gonna be between China and the United States.
<v Speaker 1>One country's gonna have to blink first, and the idea
<v Speaker 1>that it's going to be China is absurd because they
<v Speaker 1>are built to like with stand pain like this, and
<v Speaker 1>they've also been preparing for moments like this. They've been
<v Speaker 1>trying to be more self sufficient and things like that.
<v Speaker 1>And also, you know, just like our country, their government
<v Speaker 1>doesn't care about their people, so you know, there's no
<v Speaker 1>difference there. I think, pretty similar, but I think China
<v Speaker 1>is much more used to doing that as opposed to
<v Speaker 1>the United States, where I think in a few months
<v Speaker 1>all the republic guns that are still cheery and all
<v Speaker 1>this stuff actually will begin to break if it gets
<v Speaker 1>really bad, if all their constituents are saying, I can't
<v Speaker 1>afford food. So it's gonna yeah, we'll see who blinks first.
<v Speaker 1>My bet is on the United States, but who knows.
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, like a company like a Razor is just
<v Speaker 1>straight up not selling products in the United States, pausing sales,
<v Speaker 1>and obviously they're waiting for this all to shake out,
<v Speaker 1>but really it just feels like it's gonna keep getting worse.
<v Speaker 1>So maybe there's no recourse here and they just have
<v Speaker 1>to pick and choose a handful of products to sell
<v Speaker 1>at a super high rate. I don't know, Jason, I
<v Speaker 1>don't know what to do here.
<v Speaker 2>I I don't know that I blame them for doing this,
<v Speaker 2>but like, oh, yeah, what are we supposed to say here?
<v Speaker 2>Like where this is all? This is all above our
<v Speaker 2>pay Gray, this is not what we normally you know,
<v Speaker 2>are we're talking about on this show or any other
<v Speaker 2>news articles that we're writing and stuff like that. It's
<v Speaker 2>just it's it's it's completely unprecedented. I it's it's mine
<v Speaker 2>bottling the kind of things that we have to deal
<v Speaker 2>with in the current moment, all unforced errors. To let's
<v Speaker 2>be honest, it started in November. That was a big
<v Speaker 2>unforced error that with you know, however, many millions of
<v Speaker 2>people caused that error, and now we're dealing with all
<v Speaker 2>of this. So I would I love to say that
<v Speaker 2>this is just all going to go away soon? Yes?
<v Speaker 2>Do I think in my head that's going to happen.
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to put it at a maybe because I
<v Speaker 2>think you said months for the Republicans to start caving.
<v Speaker 2>I think it might actually happen sooner than that, because
<v Speaker 2>you're waiting for people to say I can't afford food,
<v Speaker 2>but we're Americans. We're more angry when we can't afford
<v Speaker 2>video games. So if gamers start rising up, like when
<v Speaker 2>the PlayStation's place doubles because of the one hundred and
<v Speaker 2>four percent tariff for that or it goes up halfway
<v Speaker 2>or one point five because of the fifty percent tariff
<v Speaker 2>in Vietnam and Cambodia, people are gonna get pissed and
<v Speaker 2>they're going to start calling and emailing and yelling and screaming.
<v Speaker 2>I I don't I don't know. I don't know when
<v Speaker 2>this is going to end, if it is even going
<v Speaker 2>to end. It. I hate being at a loss for words,
<v Speaker 2>especially on a video show like this, but how else
<v Speaker 2>can we almost can we describe it?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? And it's uh, it's going to continue to be whiplash,
<v Speaker 1>Like the markets are are going back up today. They
<v Speaker 1>were up four percent yesterday and then finished the day
<v Speaker 1>down one percent, So it's like the volatility is like
<v Speaker 1>and that like I think if it has happened before,
<v Speaker 1>it hasn't happened since like the eighties, But I think
<v Speaker 1>that's never happened before where the market was up at
<v Speaker 1>four percent at one point in the day and then
<v Speaker 1>finished the day down one percent, So like the volatility
<v Speaker 1>is going to continue, and so that's going to cause
<v Speaker 1>some confusion because it's like if like you know, today
<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh, good news, it's all in the green
<v Speaker 1>h and that is probably based on whether it's accurate
<v Speaker 1>or not, this idea that all these other countries other
<v Speaker 1>than China are rushing to beat down the door of
<v Speaker 1>the White House to have negotiations to get tailor made
<v Speaker 1>deals done for trade with the White House. But you know,
<v Speaker 1>someone in Chad just pointed out the EU is approving
<v Speaker 1>a reciprocal tariffs as countermeasures to this, and so that's
<v Speaker 1>you know, our over I think if you put the
<v Speaker 1>EU as one block, that's actually our largest trading partner
<v Speaker 1>after Canada and Mexico and you know terms in you know,
<v Speaker 1>China's definitely up there as well. And so it's like, okay,
<v Speaker 1>China and the EU both are not playing ball, They're
<v Speaker 1>not stepping, they're not standing down. They are going to
<v Speaker 1>go tit for tat. So really it's the bad news
<v Speaker 1>is going to swing back the other way here real soon,
<v Speaker 1>and it's just going to continue to be this mess
<v Speaker 1>of whip whiplash feeling of the markets not knowing what
<v Speaker 1>to do one moment to the next, and so that
<v Speaker 1>is going to enable confusion and kind of I think
<v Speaker 1>what it's going to give Trump the opportunity to do
<v Speaker 1>is continue to do stuff however he wants, because no
<v Speaker 1>one's going to be able to make heads or tails
<v Speaker 1>of it. So he's just gonna keep making things worse.
<v Speaker 1>And if you are a company trying to sell a
<v Speaker 1>product here, I do not know what you do I
<v Speaker 1>have I think I think they don't. Think that's why
<v Speaker 1>Razors pausing it. If there was a way to keep
<v Speaker 1>selling these things and make it make sense, that's what
<v Speaker 1>they would be doing. There is no way to do that,
<v Speaker 1>you know. And that's a big company like Razor that
<v Speaker 1>has a taught supply chain controls a lot of the
<v Speaker 1>things that's making kind of had some insight into, you know,
<v Speaker 1>there could be future problems. We should diversify our where
<v Speaker 1>we're making stuff. There are dozens of smaller vendors that
<v Speaker 1>have not been able to prepare for this, have been
<v Speaker 1>and are in much worse situations. I mean, I mentioned
<v Speaker 1>it on the BombCast yesterday, but the guy that runs
<v Speaker 1>retro Tink, Mike g He's a lot of these things.
<v Speaker 1>We're not gonna be able to sell these products anymore.
<v Speaker 1>And these are like upscaler products for old video games
<v Speaker 1>things like that, but they could be expensive. They're hard
<v Speaker 1>to make. They require very specific components and a lot
<v Speaker 1>of specialized hardware. And you know, the the FPGA consoles,
<v Speaker 1>Analog and the one from tech Udon, those are going
<v Speaker 1>to like he's got the pre orders for that PlayStation analog,
<v Speaker 1>it's got pre orders for that analog three D the
<v Speaker 1>N sixty four FPGA console are probably gonna have to
<v Speaker 1>cancel those because those are now going to cost upwards
<v Speaker 1>of twice as much for them to bring here into
<v Speaker 1>the country now, you know, So what could happen here
<v Speaker 1>right is manufacturing comes back to the United States. That's
<v Speaker 1>not what they're talking about either, Jason. The most common
<v Speaker 1>thing that now these companies are talking about is finding
<v Speaker 1>ways to launder their products through other countries that have
<v Speaker 1>slightly lower tariffs, like India, but like India's got twenty
<v Speaker 1>percent tariffs. What we'll do is we'll ship it to India,
<v Speaker 1>maybe slap a sticker on it there so it's manufactured
<v Speaker 1>in India. We do like one thing and then send
<v Speaker 1>it to the United States. So yeah, the return of
<v Speaker 1>glorious manufacturing to the United States has always been a joke.
<v Speaker 1>That's and it's not we know, that's not what he's
<v Speaker 1>really He doesn't care about that, And if anyone does
<v Speaker 1>care about it, it's Peter Tiel, because he wants to
<v Speaker 1>build factories here entirely by robots, and that way they
<v Speaker 1>can just get infinitely wealthy of going forward and all
<v Speaker 1>the manufacturing does happen here, but no one fucking works
<v Speaker 1>and can buy anything.
<v Speaker 2>It's because that's just what they actually give a shit about.
<v Speaker 2>They don't care about anything else other than growing their pockets.
<v Speaker 2>And it's just it's it's getting much. It's getting harder
<v Speaker 2>every day to keep composure, you know what I mean.
<v Speaker 2>It's just I want to scream, but I can't because
<v Speaker 2>I got two little kids and don't understand what the
<v Speaker 2>hell's going on and I and my wife does a
<v Speaker 2>very good job of insulating herself from this. I wish
<v Speaker 2>I had her resolve to do so. I can't, obviously,
<v Speaker 2>because I got to cover it.
<v Speaker 1>But it just.
<v Speaker 2>Kills me. I just I just want to play video
<v Speaker 2>games and have fun.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well, I mean, let's Let's go to Combo Breaker
<v Speaker 1>right and have fun there. Oh no, the event director.
<v Speaker 1>This is from a Jason Finelli at game Spot. The
<v Speaker 1>gaming world has been turned upside down in recent days
<v Speaker 1>thanks to the US President Donald Trump's tariffs on dozens
<v Speaker 1>of countries around the world. Nintendo was forced to delay
<v Speaker 1>pre orders of the upcoming Switch to console in both
<v Speaker 1>the United States and Canada, while Razor removed its entire
<v Speaker 1>line of gaming laptops from direct sale in the United States.
<v Speaker 1>Now we can add annual conventions to the list. As
<v Speaker 1>the event director of one prominent fighting game tournament has
<v Speaker 1>weighed on how the event could be affected moving forward.
<v Speaker 1>Rick the how do try her?
<v Speaker 2>Is?
<v Speaker 1>How you say that? Who acts as both Yeah, Tryer,
<v Speaker 1>who acts as both general manager of EBO and the
<v Speaker 1>event director of Combo Breaker in Illinois, took the Blue
<v Speaker 1>Sky to comment on the tariffs, saying that of all
<v Speaker 1>the ways Combo Breaker could bleed out over the years,
<v Speaker 1>mortality mortally injured by tariffs is an absurd surprise. And
<v Speaker 1>response to a reply on that post, Tryer explained on
<v Speaker 1>how these tariffs have wreaked havoc on the event. Here's
<v Speaker 1>a quote from him. The event has discussed at length
<v Speaker 1>that our sustainability is rooted in an annual merchandise line.
<v Speaker 1>Tryer said in the reply, merchandise coming in right now
<v Speaker 1>has forty nine percent to one hundred and four percent markups.
<v Speaker 1>That's the tariffs. There's no sales potential in shirts with
<v Speaker 1>an MSRP of ninety US dollars, so the line is
<v Speaker 1>likely burned expenses, very bad reality to be in. I mean, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>there's I'm gonna sneeze. No excuse me, there's no getting
<v Speaker 1>around that, right, That's just there's or the tariffs or
<v Speaker 1>the like. They're having to raise prices to the point
<v Speaker 1>where this whole enterprise becomes uneconomical. And I mean, of
<v Speaker 1>course these things are going to have ramifications, but I
<v Speaker 1>think we're only beginning to see just how many waves
<v Speaker 1>this is going to cause throughout the rest of the economy.
<v Speaker 2>Right. Yeah, Now, I do want to specify that they
<v Speaker 2>have not actually announced any changes to Combo Breaker yet, Nora.
<v Speaker 2>Have they announced any changes to Evo, which Rick Thire
<v Speaker 2>and It's fire two hs will be uh with Evo.
<v Speaker 2>He's general manager of Evo. Nothing has been nothing has
<v Speaker 2>been changed. They're still on the schedule. They're still happening,
<v Speaker 2>and so we don't know how they're affected by that yet.
<v Speaker 2>But I want everyone watching this and everyone who finds
<v Speaker 2>this article to show it to people who may not
<v Speaker 2>think that the tarifs will affect them, and I want
<v Speaker 2>you to say to them, this is an event. Every
<v Speaker 2>event you may go to, every venue that hosts it,
<v Speaker 2>every store that you shop at, every online retailer that
<v Speaker 2>you go to, is going to be affected this way
<v Speaker 2>in very similar fashions. Now ninety dollars T shirts perhaps not,
<v Speaker 2>but everything on every shelf in every business in this
<v Speaker 2>country is going to see markups like this. This is
<v Speaker 2>just but one small example that highlights the very real issue,
<v Speaker 2>and that is honestly why I wanted to write this article.
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to make everything the guy says, newsworthy
<v Speaker 2>because and I don't really want to put a bunch
<v Speaker 2>of a dark cloud over the event. Right, common Breakers awesome,
<v Speaker 2>EVO is awesome, But this stuff needs to be highlighted.
<v Speaker 2>It needs to be shown how people that you may
<v Speaker 2>not realize are being affected are being affected by this.
<v Speaker 2>When I saw one hundred and four percent markup, it
<v Speaker 2>immediately occurred to me how much of the clothes I
<v Speaker 2>wear are made in those countries, the shoes I have
<v Speaker 2>on the more importantly, the clothes my kids wear.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it goes deeper than that, right, So let's say, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>we do want to try to get away from buying
<v Speaker 1>products from other countries for whatever reason, I don't. I
<v Speaker 1>don't care about it. I like buying stuff from other
<v Speaker 1>countries because I imagine someone's getting money for the first
<v Speaker 1>time for working a job and they able to make
<v Speaker 1>their life a little bit better. I think that's a
<v Speaker 1>good thing. But whatever, let's say we did want to
<v Speaker 1>do that, and let's say I want to get super
<v Speaker 1>extreme about it, and I'm gonna grow grow on my
<v Speaker 1>own food, Jason, and that I'm gonna do it. I
<v Speaker 1>don't wanna buy it from anyone else. I'm gonna grow
<v Speaker 1>my own food in my backyard. Okay, Well, where's the
<v Speaker 1>hose coming from that I'm gonna water the plants with?
<v Speaker 1>Where are all the tools gonna be made? All like?
<v Speaker 1>And that's me doing it myself. Imagine a corporate or
<v Speaker 1>like a factory farm where they have to get all
<v Speaker 1>these products at a mass scale. All of the equipment
<v Speaker 1>that goes into the tractors, like not, maybe the detractors
<v Speaker 1>are assembled here, but where do a lot of the
<v Speaker 1>parts get manufactured overseas? For sure, every little thing that
<v Speaker 1>comes into this country gets tariffed. So ever, the hose,
<v Speaker 1>the tools, the parts for the tractor, all that stuff's
<v Speaker 1>going to cause price. So even if you're talking about
<v Speaker 1>an apple that gets made here, that also has to
<v Speaker 1>go up in price because the cost involved in producing
<v Speaker 1>that apple are gonna go up. This it's just terrible policy.
<v Speaker 1>It's that simple. And why does it happen because he
<v Speaker 1>doesn't understand anything. He just doesn't understand how any of
<v Speaker 1>this works, and he doesn't care to. Obviously, he's got
<v Speaker 1>now CEO's going to see him, and he's got other
<v Speaker 1>countries calling him up, being like, hey, this seems like
<v Speaker 1>a bad idea. What can we do? Get a go away?
<v Speaker 1>And he's just excited that they're kissing his ass. That's
<v Speaker 1>what he said yesterday.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, yeah, it's it's we have we have given
<v Speaker 2>the controls to a child, like I mean, there's no
<v Speaker 2>other there's no way run it. We've given They've given
<v Speaker 2>the controls to a child who has never been told
<v Speaker 2>know his whole life and if he has, he hasn't listened.
<v Speaker 2>And the times he has been told no, he you know,
<v Speaker 2>screamed at, screamed and cried that it was, you know,
<v Speaker 2>a sham, and people just believe him. And it's just
<v Speaker 2>as bad that everybody in his circle enables him. Takes
<v Speaker 2>one person, one person be like, yo, dude, what's going
<v Speaker 2>on here? I the canary in the coal mine for
<v Speaker 2>me is had to deal with my dad. Right to
<v Speaker 2>my dad, whenever things were happening in government or finance
<v Speaker 2>or whatever, he always had an explanation. There was always
<v Speaker 2>a way where he could say, look, I know it
<v Speaker 2>sounds bad, but it makes sense and here's why. Right
<v Speaker 2>for the first time he has said I have know,
<v Speaker 2>goddamn Phil, what's happening. I've no idea how to explain this.
<v Speaker 2>And that to me from a personal level, was like
<v Speaker 2>we are now in some sort of unprecedented, unprecedented crazy
<v Speaker 2>time and there is no way, as we said earlier,
<v Speaker 2>to be able to comment or predict on it, because
<v Speaker 2>we don't we've ever seen it before. And I only hope,
<v Speaker 2>I only hope that it doesn't last long enough that
<v Speaker 2>things like Combo Breaker and things like all the events
<v Speaker 2>that we like to go to, all the games that
<v Speaker 2>we liked them. All these things don't disappear because of it. Now,
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's going to happen to. I don't
<v Speaker 2>think it's going to happen to like Nintendo, They're not
<v Speaker 2>going anywhere. I'm talking about the smaller community run stuff
<v Speaker 2>like a combo breaker and things like that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I think, you know, the only way to
<v Speaker 1>fully understand what's going to happen is believe him when
<v Speaker 1>he says the crazy stuff he says. So when he
<v Speaker 1>said he was going to tear if everybody and everyone
<v Speaker 1>didn't take him seriously, well we should have taken him seriously.
<v Speaker 1>So what else has he said? Well, maybe we should
<v Speaker 1>get Greenland, maybe we should have the Panama Canal back,
<v Speaker 1>maybe Canada should be the fifty first state. Like, how
<v Speaker 1>do you distract from all this stuff that's happening. I
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I believe him. I believe he's going to
<v Speaker 1>do this stuff now and so too at least. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it's going to get way worse unless something happens. You know,
<v Speaker 1>I have my wish for stuff that happens in twenty
<v Speaker 1>twenty five, But who can say, all Right, let's see here,
<v Speaker 1>Let's take a quick break. When we come back, let's
<v Speaker 1>talk about how powerful that switch to really is according
<v Speaker 1>to the experts. We'll get into that right after this.
<v Speaker 1>All right, thanks for sticking with us. Let's get right
<v Speaker 1>back into it with. Digital Foundry says Nintendo switch To
<v Speaker 1>is roughly at PS four level system not too surprising,
<v Speaker 1>but it's nice to kind of get them in on
<v Speaker 1>there and having a good look at what's going on
<v Speaker 1>under the hood there. This is for my Nintendo News
<v Speaker 1>who is relaying this from Digital Foundry. The knowledgeable, tech
<v Speaker 1>focused team at Digital Foundry have been examining the Nintendo
<v Speaker 1>switch to in the recent analysis and have concluded that
<v Speaker 1>Nintendo's next generation system is roughly on par with Sony's
<v Speaker 1>PlayStation four console. This means that we will be treated
<v Speaker 1>with a PlayStation four visual experience in the palm of
<v Speaker 1>our hands with third party titles Citrus Final, Fantasy Seven, Rebirth, Hogwarts, Legacy,
<v Speaker 1>and Cyberpunk at twenty seventy seven. The leaked specifications before
<v Speaker 1>the console was revealed hinted that we should spect around
<v Speaker 1>PlayStation four levels of hardware power. Nintendo Switch two launches
<v Speaker 1>allegedly on June fifth. Here's the quote from them, and
<v Speaker 1>there's like some extra stuff we can sprinkle on top
<v Speaker 1>as we get to the end of this. But they said,
<v Speaker 1>broadly speaking, it's helpful to think of the switch to
<v Speaker 1>as kind of, like, you know, roughly a PS four
<v Speaker 1>level system in terms of comparable titles, but it can
<v Speaker 1>do so much more in terms of storage, spoke, graphical features,
<v Speaker 1>and possibly the CPU is also faster the presentation in
<v Speaker 1>PS four levels or thereabouts for Final for Final Fantasies
<v Speaker 1>seven remake, so broadly speaking, quite comparable to PS four,
<v Speaker 1>if not actually a bit more of a favorable experience
<v Speaker 1>compared to the PS four And then they said switch
<v Speaker 1>to as a first generation ballpark, so to speak, PS
<v Speaker 1>four is a very good comparison point. I think, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>And I think what they're really getting at here, Jason
<v Speaker 1>is not actually just explicitly saying the switch to is
<v Speaker 1>as powerful as a PlayStation four. They're saying PlayStation four
<v Speaker 1>games are what you should expect in terms of quality
<v Speaker 1>on switch to two. And then it should actually be
<v Speaker 1>quite easier for some developers to get their games running
<v Speaker 1>even the RPS four level on the switch to because
<v Speaker 1>of improvements to storage, and specifically that CPU. You know,
<v Speaker 1>I have an old video on my YouTube channel where
<v Speaker 1>I talk about where I basically just trash the Xbox
<v Speaker 1>one and the PS four as a terrible generation for
<v Speaker 1>hardware because it was specifically because those CPUs were essentially
<v Speaker 1>out of netbooks. They were just the cheapest CPUs they
<v Speaker 1>could find at the time that really made any sense,
<v Speaker 1>and they were not really catering to games in any
<v Speaker 1>real way. They certainly were not catering to the future
<v Speaker 1>of what could be possible in games. And thankfully that
<v Speaker 1>got all turned around with the PS five and the
<v Speaker 1>Xbox series X and S, which all have very nice
<v Speaker 1>CPUs in them. So that CPU alone is going to
<v Speaker 1>make quite a bit of a difference. And then I
<v Speaker 1>think also the like memory bandwidth should be quite a
<v Speaker 1>bit better on the switch to compared to a PS four.
<v Speaker 1>So just kind of across the board, developers are used
<v Speaker 1>to making games four PS four and Xbox one. Still
<v Speaker 1>a lot of them still do that, especially on the
<v Speaker 1>ND side, but kind of across the I mean, ea,
<v Speaker 1>just in the last few months, for did Star Wars
<v Speaker 1>Jedi fallen order to or survivor excuse me, to Xbox
<v Speaker 1>one and PS four, and so the studios are used
<v Speaker 1>to this and the switch to coming through and be
<v Speaker 1>like hey, and now also include us. I don't I
<v Speaker 1>don't think studios are going to bat an eye at that.
<v Speaker 1>What do you think?
<v Speaker 2>No, I don't think so either. I think when we
<v Speaker 2>talk about how Nintendo tends to be a generation behind
<v Speaker 2>and in terms of technology from Xbox in PlayStation and
<v Speaker 2>while that has its inherent disadvantages by being you know,
<v Speaker 2>not as technically impressive, things like this are actually a
<v Speaker 2>very interesting boon. Like these companies, as you said, are
<v Speaker 2>ready to already ready to develop. They just have to
<v Speaker 2>figure out Nintendo's specific architecture and how to develop for
<v Speaker 2>that architecture. Once that's done, their machines are already in place.
<v Speaker 2>It's not like a brand new PlayStation five where there's
<v Speaker 2>that onboarding time that Mark Cerney talked about in that
<v Speaker 2>one road to PS five article video back in twenty
<v Speaker 2>twenty road to what I remember what he calls it
<v Speaker 2>a time something I don't remember, but basically to get
<v Speaker 2>up to get the teams up to speed. How it
<v Speaker 2>used to be years, then it was months, and then
<v Speaker 2>they're trying to have it like one month or PS
<v Speaker 2>five for Switch To, it might not be that long.
<v Speaker 2>We could be talking about a month or two months
<v Speaker 2>before they're fully firing because of this PS four slightly
<v Speaker 2>maybe a little above architecture that it has, and I
<v Speaker 2>think that is a smart way to do it. Nintendo
<v Speaker 2>has always cared more about gameplay experience over flashy graphics,
<v Speaker 2>even though they do achieve that sometimes, particularly in first party.
<v Speaker 2>So if you're making it easier for the third parties
<v Speaker 2>to get on board and Final Fantasy seven, Rebirth, Cyberpunk
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty seventy seven, and another game that shall not
<v Speaker 2>be named pun intended are examples that you were named here. Sure,
<v Speaker 2>I think they're already off to a good start. Let's
<v Speaker 2>start seeing the annual sports games we already mentioned MADD
<v Speaker 2>and FC were coming. Let's see if maybe MLB the
<v Speaker 2>I would love to see in MLB the Show on
<v Speaker 2>Switch Too. I think that would be awesome as long
<v Speaker 2>as they keep getting those annual titles. I think the
<v Speaker 2>Switch Too is in a good spot.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean motion is relative, right, so as the
<v Speaker 1>industry advances and was like moving like a forward by
<v Speaker 1>getting bigger, better CPUs, GPUs, better graphics and Nintendo was
<v Speaker 1>staying behind. Really it's been compressed because the front runners
<v Speaker 1>have had to kind of be like, well, there's not
<v Speaker 1>much more we can do. We can only squeeze so
<v Speaker 1>much more out of these new processors. We have hit
<v Speaker 1>diminishing returns very hard, and so the industry has kind
<v Speaker 1>of moved towards Nintendo in a way where now they're
<v Speaker 1>here making a system that's PS four level that you
<v Speaker 1>can hold in your hand, and clearly that's going to
<v Speaker 1>be good enough for a very long time. Like that is,
<v Speaker 1>I think the industry will be happy to continue making
<v Speaker 1>games at a PS four speck so they can keep
<v Speaker 1>budgets under wraps and under under control to a certain degree.
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, you're going to have exceptions to that with
<v Speaker 1>your rock stars, your naughty dogs that have unlimited like
<v Speaker 1>you know, a number of checks in their checkbook where
<v Speaker 1>they can just write blank checks for every thing, and
<v Speaker 1>their games will cost two hundred to three hundred and
<v Speaker 1>fifty million dollars, if not more. But that's that's a
<v Speaker 1>couple of studios. Now. The vast majority of studios are like,
<v Speaker 1>can we get something done or thirty to sixty million
<v Speaker 1>dollars and if we do that we should maybe be
<v Speaker 1>aiming at the widest possible audience, not maybe we definitely
<v Speaker 1>should be. And that is going to mean originally it
<v Speaker 1>did mean just PS four. Let's just make sure it's
<v Speaker 1>on the PS four. And now as the PS four
<v Speaker 1>really is kind of aging out, the switch to will
<v Speaker 1>be there to kind of catch that group of developers
<v Speaker 1>that are ready to keep doing at that point. And
<v Speaker 1>that's like not even getting into the specifics of the
<v Speaker 1>switch to itself. You said the developers have to get
<v Speaker 1>up to speed. You know, we've already heard from a
<v Speaker 1>couple of developers I think for Axis was saying that
<v Speaker 1>they really liked working with the switch to for Civilization seven,
<v Speaker 1>Like they were like, we had a really good experience,
<v Speaker 1>and you know, at this point we don't. You can't
<v Speaker 1>really take all that at face value, maybe a grain
<v Speaker 1>of salt. The ones that are complaining probably aren't allowed
<v Speaker 1>to say anything for one thing, and two wouldn't want
<v Speaker 1>too cause they don't want to piss off Nintendo. But
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna, like, in this moment, choose to hope that
<v Speaker 1>the switch to is easy to work with, because I
<v Speaker 1>think that'll be a really good thing for Nintendo. To present.
<v Speaker 1>It's like Switch To a lot like the Switch one.
<v Speaker 1>What can we do here make it easier to work with?
<v Speaker 1>If that was a focus, that's really going to help
<v Speaker 1>the Switch to. I think keep a lot of the
<v Speaker 1>momentum that the Switch one had, and then DLSS on
<v Speaker 1>top of that could be even better. Which you know,
<v Speaker 1>we have not really seen developers just come out and
<v Speaker 1>be like, here's what what d LSS is enabling. But
<v Speaker 1>I'm also thinking that it's just something that just happens
<v Speaker 1>on that console, Like every game on the system probably
<v Speaker 1>just has DLSS at a certain point, and if it doesn't,
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of games coming to it very soon
<v Speaker 1>that like already have it on PC that would just
<v Speaker 1>be able to take advantage of it. So yeah, I'm
<v Speaker 1>still excited for this thing. I hope one day to
<v Speaker 1>buy one.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, me too, And I hope it doesn't cost me
<v Speaker 2>the same as a car payment, but you know or no,
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, a mortgage payment. Car payment would be nice. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I I I don't know, man, I just it's hard
<v Speaker 2>for me to get fully excited until I have all
<v Speaker 2>the information right. Like once, once they pulled the pre orders,
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, man, I was so excited for
<v Speaker 2>that after our targo.
<v Speaker 1>From the UK yesterday. Did you for posted not? And
<v Speaker 1>couldn't get it in my cart fast enough?
<v Speaker 2>Oh man. So that's a window into what's going to
<v Speaker 2>happen when it finally hits here, no matter what price
<v Speaker 2>it is, Honestly it could be eight hundred bucks and
<v Speaker 2>I still think it's going to be tough. Yeah, I'm
<v Speaker 2>fine with this technology report. I'm not playing switch To,
<v Speaker 2>like I said, for top of the line graphics or
<v Speaker 2>you know, visual fidelity. I'm playing switch To to be
<v Speaker 2>a monkey and bash a bunch of mountains, put holes
<v Speaker 2>in mountains, and go on a bonanza. So it works
<v Speaker 2>for me.
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's get through the rest of these stories.
<v Speaker 1>Grow fast here. Nintendo switch To GameCube controller has one
<v Speaker 1>major limitation. This is from Darren bonf Use at GameSpot.
<v Speaker 1>A new GameCube controller will launch alongside the Nintendo Switch
<v Speaker 1>to console in June, but don't expect this device to
<v Speaker 1>work on anything but classic GameCube titles. While the NES,
<v Speaker 1>Super NES and Genesis controllers can be used on more
<v Speaker 1>games than just the ones they were intended for, depending
<v Speaker 1>on the inputs required, the GameCube controller will be the exception.
<v Speaker 1>That's according to the disclaimer from the GameCube Classics reveal
<v Speaker 1>trailer from the Nintendo April direct as spotted by VGC,
<v Speaker 1>which reads, the controller is only compatible with the Nintendo
<v Speaker 1>GameCube Nintendo Classics. The fine print reads, Now this is
<v Speaker 1>only worth bringing up because it's really weird because if
<v Speaker 1>you have the like the I think it's the GameCube
<v Speaker 1>controller adapter, and you can plug that in your switch somehow,
<v Speaker 1>I think over USB. I think that was made for
<v Speaker 1>other devices, but I think it works on switch. I
<v Speaker 1>don't know exactly how it works, but I know Dan
<v Speaker 1>has done it recently where he plugged in a shoot
<v Speaker 1>WaveBird into his switch using this adapter to play Metroid
<v Speaker 1>Prime Remaster, which is not a GameCube classic game. It's
<v Speaker 1>a updates a switch game, a Switch version of a
<v Speaker 1>GameCube game, but a switch game. And it just automatically
<v Speaker 1>mapped that original GameCube controller to all all the right
<v Speaker 1>controls so you could play it with that. So what
<v Speaker 1>the hell has happened? Like, are people not gonna be
<v Speaker 1>able to really use this for Super Smash Brothers Ultimate?
<v Speaker 1>That's good, people are going to want to do that.
<v Speaker 1>That's very strange.
<v Speaker 2>And is very strange. I don't know why they wouldn't
<v Speaker 2>I get I guess maybe they were afraid that the
<v Speaker 2>abnormal layout of the GameCube controller might cause general issues,
<v Speaker 2>or they are.
<v Speaker 1>They if they buttons in a different spot for sure.
<v Speaker 2>Right, the Nintendo is the kind of company where if
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't translate one hundred percent perfectly, if it doesn't
<v Speaker 2>work one hundred percent perfectly to their expectations, they just
<v Speaker 2>don't put it in at all. And I think that's
<v Speaker 2>where a lot of these weird decisions come from. And
<v Speaker 2>this just sounds like it's in that range of it's
<v Speaker 2>not going to map perfectly every single time, so we're
<v Speaker 2>not going to try it at all. That is weird.
<v Speaker 2>It's very weird. I would rather have the opportunity to
<v Speaker 2>at least try. But excuse me, I guess it's the
<v Speaker 2>controller adapter that you mentioned. That's what we're going to
<v Speaker 2>have to do. Yeah, real weird. I think I think
<v Speaker 2>they just lost me. Like I was, I was gonna
<v Speaker 2>get one of those, but like, what's the point if
<v Speaker 2>I could just use the normal joy cons? And like,
<v Speaker 2>I don't the the GameCube experience is not defined by
<v Speaker 2>its controller. Its controller is different and it's and it's
<v Speaker 2>interesting to hold. But if I can control the wind
<v Speaker 2>Waker the same way using the joy cons while I'm
<v Speaker 2>playing in you know, handheld mode, what the hell do
<v Speaker 2>I need the GameCube controller for?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? This this is weird because consbat is this is
<v Speaker 1>this true? It has a z L button, so ZL
<v Speaker 1>would be the extra left bumper button, which is not
<v Speaker 1>on the original GameCube controller. That why what what? What? Why?
<v Speaker 1>Would I guess maybe for using the menu interface on switch.
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's going to be necessary for that. I don't know. This,
<v Speaker 1>this is very strange. All right, Mario Kart World will
<v Speaker 1>bring back the franchise's most iconic track. It appears just
<v Speaker 1>from any mccooat game Spot. Really, people have been just
<v Speaker 1>like coming through these trailers, fine and everything. People saw Pauline, right,
<v Speaker 1>and the Donkey Kung Bonanza yes or whatever wild, Yes,
<v Speaker 1>some cool stuff. It's like young Pauline. I think it's Pauline.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>And then Mario Kart World. People have spotted what looks
<v Speaker 1>like Rainbow Road, which they have not shown off yet.
<v Speaker 1>I guess spoilers. But if you weren't expecting Rainbow Road
<v Speaker 1>in Mario Kart World, I don't know what to do
<v Speaker 1>for you.
<v Speaker 2>That's on you.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's just that's a weird thing to not expect.
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, but they're clearly holding stuff back. I wonder
<v Speaker 1>if there will be other hidden tracks that they aren't
<v Speaker 1>showing off, or like maybe the map like goes beyond
<v Speaker 1>the current borders. Maybe not, but at the very least
<v Speaker 1>they're holding some things back. And then Disney Illusion Island
<v Speaker 1>starring Mickey and Friends is coming to PS five, Xbox
<v Speaker 1>Series and PC on May thirtieth, alongside the Cash update.
<v Speaker 1>This is from Sal Ramano at Gamatsu. Publisher, Disney Interactive
<v Speaker 1>and developer De La Las Studios will release side scrolling
<v Speaker 1>full four player cooperative platform or Disney Illusion Island starring
<v Speaker 1>Mickey and Friends for those aforementioned consoles, as well on PCVA, Steam,
<v Speaker 1>gog and Microsoft Store on May thirtieth for thirty dollars,
<v Speaker 1>alongside the Cave Adventuring Scavenger Hunt Cash starring Scrooge McDuck.
<v Speaker 1>The company's announced a physical addition will be available on
<v Speaker 1>May thirtieth into North North America and June twenty seventh
<v Speaker 1>in Europe. This is that you know, long time it's
<v Speaker 1>been a Switch exclusive. You can only get it on switch.
<v Speaker 1>Now it's coming to PC and all the other consoles.
<v Speaker 1>I like this game. It is a four player Metroidvana
<v Speaker 1>with no real combat, so it was really good to
<v Speaker 1>play with the family. I was a big fan of it.
<v Speaker 1>So glad. It's glad other people are going to get
<v Speaker 1>the chance to play. I was actually getting worried that
<v Speaker 1>it's say, oh, that looked like a failed experiment and
<v Speaker 1>they're just going to like let it languish on the switch.
<v Speaker 1>But nope, it looks like it's going to make the jump.
<v Speaker 1>So that's very cool.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what I've played of it, I agree. It was
<v Speaker 2>perfect to play with with the kids because normally metro
<v Speaker 2>Vania's are really tough. Yet I know where you're going
<v Speaker 2>about comment this thing. They adapted immediately. The biggest the
<v Speaker 2>biggest fight we have was who was going to be Goofy,
<v Speaker 2>which I'll take that. If they can get through the
<v Speaker 2>game and figure out who's going to be who that
<v Speaker 2>that works for me. I love the Scrooge McDuck is
<v Speaker 2>get in love. Anytime I see Duckdale's of Scrooge McDuck,
<v Speaker 2>I am in that's that's really cool. I'm glad there's
<v Speaker 2>an expansion in general for this. I'm glad that there
<v Speaker 2>are they are, like you said, going to go through
<v Speaker 2>with it. It's just not just going to sit there. Did
<v Speaker 2>they change the name too, starring Mickey and Friends? I
<v Speaker 2>don't think was always there?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't. I don't remember that.
<v Speaker 2>I wonder if that's like the new version, like how
<v Speaker 2>they changed between Illusion Island and then Mickey and Friends.
<v Speaker 2>But you get cool, I dig it.
<v Speaker 1>All right, that's going to do it for the headlines.
<v Speaker 1>Let's get to the poll question that we posed to
<v Speaker 1>everybody on Monday after I got those prints per blue
<v Speaker 1>Prints reviews, not plints. That's a different game blue Prints reviews,
<v Speaker 1>although maybe I'll start calling it plints. YE asked her, Hey,
<v Speaker 1>are you more excited after after those reviews? And sixty
<v Speaker 1>nine percent of respondents said yes, they are more excited
<v Speaker 1>after seeing all the reviews. Thirty one percent said no,
<v Speaker 1>there's some people in the comments, so hey, where's the
<v Speaker 1>what is blue Princes button? I'm like, well, you know,
<v Speaker 1>if you don't know what blue Prince is, you could
<v Speaker 1>just no. That would that should be a response that
<v Speaker 1>you're not more interested in it. But yeah, it feels
<v Speaker 1>like this game is catching that wave right now and
<v Speaker 1>will hit very hard here when it comes out later
<v Speaker 1>this week. I think it's out tomorrow. I want to
<v Speaker 1>say it's Outrerow.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I am on day eight, slowly making my way through,
<v Speaker 2>and the elegance of this game's design is absolutely out
<v Speaker 2>of this world. And when I say that, I mean
<v Speaker 2>it's complicated enough that you or I are looking for
<v Speaker 2>every little piece of meta lore and where it goes
<v Speaker 2>and what have you. And my six year old, who's
<v Speaker 2>been homesick the last two days finally went back to
<v Speaker 2>school today, is like, Daddy, put this room here, because
<v Speaker 2>you want to make a dead end, Daddy, you can
<v Speaker 2>get the whole back. So she's building this house with
<v Speaker 2>me just based on how the pants go. She don't
<v Speaker 2>know what the hell's going on on the outside.
<v Speaker 1>I show her the box.
<v Speaker 2>Uh thing and she's like, how do you know that box? Lies?
<v Speaker 2>I said, you have to read the messages and put
<v Speaker 2>them all together. Damn it didn't She solve one.
<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's awesome.
<v Speaker 2>All by herself. I said, this is what this says.
<v Speaker 2>One of them was blank, so it was a little
<v Speaker 2>bit easier, but this is what this says. This is
<v Speaker 2>what this says, and this one's blank, where do you
<v Speaker 2>think it is? And she went and she pointed at it,
<v Speaker 2>and there they were. The gems couldn't maybe smarter than me,
<v Speaker 2>and she's six years old. So yeah, you can vote
<v Speaker 2>for yes. A's a one hundred percent true every single
<v Speaker 2>platitude this game has received it deserves, And if you
<v Speaker 2>are not excited to play it yet, what the hell
<v Speaker 2>are you waiting for?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Dan, I think Dan finally got credits last night.
<v Speaker 1>I I've been I been continuing to play long after credits.
<v Speaker 1>I've got more days now, I think than I had
<v Speaker 1>that it took. Then it took me to get to credits.
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, uh, or I'm getting close to like day
<v Speaker 1>ninety or whatever, so it's close. But I just discovered
<v Speaker 1>something like I made another breakthrough and it played a
<v Speaker 1>cut scene that I wasn't expecting. But I was playing
<v Speaker 1>on the steam deck and the cut scene broke so
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't see anything, and I'm like, ah, no, okay,
<v Speaker 1>close the game, don't save. I need to go play
<v Speaker 1>this so I could see it pursued on the PC.
<v Speaker 1>So and of course now I'm trying to get that
<v Speaker 1>run again. So I could see this thing again, and
<v Speaker 1>I have not been able to get the RNG to
<v Speaker 1>work with me, so I could see it again. So
<v Speaker 1>it's oh, oh, man, get to there eventually again. And
<v Speaker 1>that's just like one of the many mini puzzles I'm
<v Speaker 1>still working on. There's so many things that I'm like,
<v Speaker 1>I saw this safe earlier and I got confused, so
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'll check back in once I learned some more.
<v Speaker 1>I still haven't learned more, so I'm like, I must
<v Speaker 1>be missing something, and it's like, oh, it's time to
<v Speaker 1>check all my notes. And really, that's just a bunch
<v Speaker 1>of screenshots of the in game notes again. So yeah,
<v Speaker 1>might be time to start actually writing things down, I think,
<v Speaker 1>but I'm yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Also, if you do play the game, for those of
<v Speaker 2>you in the chat are going to get it tomorrow,
<v Speaker 2>beware the Room of Mirrors or whatever it's called. That
<v Speaker 2>mirror room. I hate that room so much. I thought
<v Speaker 2>it was a bunch of switches, a bunch of mirrors.
<v Speaker 2>I thought I was gonna hit the button, it was
<v Speaker 2>gonna let me through. It opened one up, one on
<v Speaker 2>the whole other side, and dead end.
<v Speaker 1>I was doing so well, I got all the sides
<v Speaker 1>on that and then I'm like, and I was able
<v Speaker 1>to hit the button in the middle, and I still
<v Speaker 1>don't know what. I'm like, wait did that do something?
<v Speaker 2>Like?
<v Speaker 1>What's what I'm like? Looking around? I couldn't figure it out.
<v Speaker 1>So yes, that's that's that game. But Sambodice is asking,
<v Speaker 1>is is it overwhelming? I think at certain points, but
<v Speaker 1>there's always you can always like go work on something
<v Speaker 1>that you understand more so I think you kind of
<v Speaker 1>like weave your way around any problems. So no, I
<v Speaker 1>don't think it's ever overwhelming. And it's fun to like
<v Speaker 1>get a group together in discord and like share like
<v Speaker 1>tiny little hints, like the littlest things like hey, have
<v Speaker 1>you looked at this? And so am I looking at
<v Speaker 1>the right thing? That sort of thing.
<v Speaker 2>In the beginning, I will say, the hardest thing is
<v Speaker 2>budgeting your steps, yeah, making sure you have enough steps
<v Speaker 2>to go backtrack when.
<v Speaker 1>Resource management, Yeah, enough steps, And then getting enough keys
<v Speaker 1>and gyms so that you can open the locked doors
<v Speaker 1>later in the run, and if you have enough gems,
<v Speaker 1>getting certain rooms that you really want that have a
<v Speaker 1>gem cost attached to them, not like you'll have options
<v Speaker 1>that aren't that don't have a gem cost, but some
<v Speaker 1>of the better rooms will and if you don't have gems,
<v Speaker 1>you just like, oh, I can't even select that thing
<v Speaker 1>even though I really need it. So I'm going to
<v Speaker 1>get a gat end here. So yeah, it's all about
<v Speaker 1>playing your cards right so that you can kind of
<v Speaker 1>manage the what's it called in like the in Hearthstone,
<v Speaker 1>the power curve or whatever, the economic curve. I can't
<v Speaker 1>remember how people talk about in terms of card games,
<v Speaker 1>but yes, Mattith curve. Yeah, you sort of just want
<v Speaker 1>to balance your resources gingerly over time. It's the whole
<v Speaker 1>thing you learn, but you get pretty good at it.
<v Speaker 2>Yep, yep.
<v Speaker 1>All right, we've got a new poll question. We'll get
<v Speaker 1>to it here in a second. Jason Fonelli, tell people
<v Speaker 1>where they can find you on the internet.
<v Speaker 2>I am at Big Man Finelle on my Blue Sky.
<v Speaker 2>You can see that blow me there Big Man Finale
<v Speaker 2>basically anywhere and everywhere, but I'm mostly active on Blue
<v Speaker 2>Sky these days and the occasional Instagram story. Like I said,
<v Speaker 2>Game I got code to review two days ago. I'll
<v Speaker 2>have a bunch of coverage on that leading up to
<v Speaker 2>its launch. Very excited about all that, writing news for
<v Speaker 2>game Spot and yeah, just getting ready for Summer games
<v Speaker 2>Fest when we can all hang out in high five.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, looking forward to it, looking forward to seeing in person.
<v Speaker 1>In the meantime, new poll question, if you can't afford
<v Speaker 1>to switch to, what do you want to say to Nintendo?
<v Speaker 1>I'll keep playing Switch one, thank you, which is apparently
<v Speaker 1>something that Doug Bowser was telling people yesterday. Or drop
<v Speaker 1>the price. I wonder what's gonna win. We'll see.
<v Speaker 2>I'll keep playing Switch one. That's very up there with uh,
<v Speaker 2>don't you all have phones?
<v Speaker 1>Yes, don't you have phones? Or dull don Matrik he
<v Speaker 1>We have a product for people who can't play the
<v Speaker 1>Xbox One because it's always conected to the Internet. It's
<v Speaker 1>called Xbox three sixty. You know what. That's what I'm
<v Speaker 1>gonna do instead of getting a switch to, I'm gonna
<v Speaker 1>go back and play some more Xbox three sixty. All right.
<v Speaker 1>That pole question is gonna go up on YouTube dot
<v Speaker 1>com slash at giant Bomb under the community tab. There
<v Speaker 1>you'll be able to vote. We'll get the results of
<v Speaker 1>that here on Game Breaking News and discuss it as
<v Speaker 1>part of the Power Block tomorrow. Speaking of the Power Blocks,
<v Speaker 1>stay tuned. Over Grub is up next with Light Club returns.
<v Speaker 1>Pepo's dead, so what's the point anymore?
<v Speaker 2>Praears up for people.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, pears up. We'll get in there and figure that out.
<v Speaker 1>And then right after that, me, jan Dan and Mike
<v Speaker 1>are gonna be playing Monaco two and my understanding is
<v Speaker 1>we're going to be playing it like simultaneously against kind
<v Speaker 1>of funny So it's gonna be a head to head back.
<v Speaker 1>That'll be at three pm Eastern noon Pacific time, So
<v Speaker 1>stay tuned to the Power Block. We're gonna get all
<v Speaker 1>that right after this. In the meantime, Jason Finelli, thank
<v Speaker 1>you so much for hanging out with me today and
<v Speaker 1>talking about video games. Man, I really appreciate it.
<v Speaker 2>Always a pleasure, my man. Enjoy it, enjoy the rest
<v Speaker 2>of your day, and mourn Pepot correctly and however you can.
<v Speaker 2>And I hope over Grub is a resounding success.
<v Speaker 1>Five booms for Pepo. Absolutely all right, everybody, thanks for watching.
<v Speaker 1>Until next time, have a good one, take care of yourself,
<v Speaker 1>and goodbye quarterback all right, p Po