Your Phillies questions: on being "content," the outfield, the rotation

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Speaker 1: Phill Hi, this is Chase U Lee.

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Speaker 2: This is the Phillies Show. Rubin Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd z Olecki. Hi, everybody, It's the Philly Show. It's Friday, Friday morning, January twenty third, twenty twenty six. Ruben, you are on Simon in Clearwater.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry folks for a few folks who I know. Is a nice day yesterday? What fifty degrees?

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Speaker 3: I know you're getting smoked with some serious weather here coming up. I'm in Clearwater. I'm probably gonna get stranded here on Sunday, probably have to come back on Monday.

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Speaker 1: Not sure, but I will tell you this, it's gorgeous here. Be jellous, be jelly jellie.

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Speaker 2: We are. We are preparing for the snow up here. We asked you guys on Thursday for your Phillies questions, and I can tell you we got more questions for this episode than we ever have for any time we've asked for questions. I think that talks about the show, but also just fans have a lot of questions about the Phillies offseason, and so let's jump right into it. And what would what would you guess was the number one topic or the theme of it was are they really content? Or the Phillies really content? So I want to go over some of these questions and get your guys' opinions on them. All right, this is well, start with Intimidator twenty one on X why after having two hundred million dollars available for Bobashett, are they content with what they have? It's a blatant lie. They are not serious about winning, Jim, I'm going to start with you.

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Speaker 4: Well, I actually I don't think they're content. I think that's GM speak. I don't think any good competitor in any field, especially athletics, is content until you're riding down Broad Street holding up a trophy and brushing off confetti off your shoulders. So I think that was GM speak. And I'm kind of a I judge a guy by actions more than words. I mean, they made a play for Bobachett. That told you right there they weren't content with their offense, So I think you'll uh. And as far as having that money ear mark for bow and then not using it elsewhere, part of it went to JT. And I think they'll have other budget if they need to tweaker around the edges. But I'm not content. The fans are not content. And I'll tell you what, I don't think they're content. I think that was gmsp Gruben.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think they're content either.

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Speaker 3: I think it was more of a matter of you know, and I'll speak on behalf of uh, you know, maybe Topper and you know, talking about you know, some of the new players and the fact that they've brought in some they're gonna be bringing in some and using some young players. That's great, But what is the manager really going to say publicly? Is he going to slap the front office in the face and say, you know what, I don't like this team.

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Speaker 1: This is terrible.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's just not gonna happen. I'm sure that the manager and the front office and everybody in that organization would like to have done more war in this offseason. I was surprised, frankly, and I talked about it before the season was over, before the offseason excuse me started that they were gonna have to change things around, and they and they probably should, but they haven't been able to do that. They did bring back two very good players and that they already had obviously you know, people are gonna be saying they ran it back, which is by and large pretty true. The fact of the matter is, though, that they did improve their bullpen. I do think that they've made some changes and they are bringing in a decent young prospect that they're hopeful can can be an everyday player. But I am sure, knowing that front office and knowing Dave Dombrowski, that they would have loved, loved to have done more.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely so, it'll just to give you a kind of a gist of some of the other content theme questions we've got de Volver I r n X. It's clear that the most the Phillies are bringing worst roster into twenty twenty six. Why would they say they feel good about their chances? Jim you mentioned, he already addressed this. He said, are they seeing something we do not? Or is it just GM speak to calm down the heat?

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Speaker 1: Danny c on X.

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Speaker 2: Do the Phillies really think us fans are that stupid that we aren't going to notice they're running it back? Nick LEBLOCKI on X. You get the gist by now. Why are the Phillies scared to make moves? There's no excuse for this offseason. It's been a continuous trend. Now Steve Garrison on Facebook, are you guys con Are you guys content with the team the way it is because the fans are not mean?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd like to have seen them. You know, we started talking about Boba Shed like on November first, like before the you know, the World Series barely ended. We were talking about what a good fit he was. So you don't get him, You don't augment the lineup, you don't get that right handed back you're looking for. How can you could be content? But at least, at least if they're running it back, they're running back a pretty good pitching staff, a pretty good offense, a team that won ninety six games, not running back a seventy two win team. Right, you know, they're not buried in some type of rebuild. They're still gonna have a chance. They're still gonna be one of the top six teams in the National League. I'd be stunned if not in the postseason. And it's about not making errors and running the base is better, and not pressing and pressing your way right out of October and gripping the bat handle. I'm not doing anything. Leave a ton of runners on in scoring position. It's about performing in October. Yeah, Ruben, go ahead.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, Okay, So Rubin, this is the last one that you could you could kind of maybe answer this. This is from Sean Siffel on Facebook. Does the front office have internal discussions about how unhappy their fan base truly is? I don't mean this sarcastically. Is it something that is discussed. They obviously tried to get Bashett, but when that fell through, it feels like they just paniced to re sign real Muto and then gave up. So generally speaking, do you guys in the office, when you're in your war room or in your office, go, oh my god, man, fans are pod right now, Rubin? As I imagine that is at least mentioned, even if.

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Speaker 1: I think it's discussed.

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Speaker 3: But I don't think that you don't make moves because the fans are pissed off. You make moves because you want to try to make the team better. Your job is to make your team better at all costs and and do what you can within your parameters. You know, it's obvious that you know, Bobaschett was like an added piece and extra piece a special piece. And and you know, as far as you know, as the money is concerned, they'd be willing to like bite the bullet, you know, financially a little bit more on the player like that. But it had to be the right fit for them, you know, the Bellingers of the world and the Tuckers of the world. Putting that kind of money into a player like that, I don't think it was the right fit for them for the money. Bobachhett under the circumstances was and uh And I think that that's why they were making a run at him. I don't know that the JT thing was necessarily a panic move. Was certainly a move that they had to make because they needed that freaking catcher who could who could you know, manage this this ball club.

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Speaker 1: And he's a really good one.

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Speaker 3: I see so many folks on social media talking about his decline as far as you know, blocking and framing and all this. Bs the man is one of the best and most athletic catchers in the game, ok, folks in the game. And he's also one of the most dedicated leaders of this team.

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Speaker 1: That means a lot.

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Speaker 3: You don't put hard to put a price on that did they overpay for him, Yes, do they have the player, Yes, it is important that he's on the on the team, Yes, and uh and I think he does make them a better player. Regardless of his decline offensively, the man is an outstanding defender and he is dedicated to winning baseball games and has proven that he can win.

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Speaker 4: Well said, Well said, I that that word jumped out at me panic sign. It was not a panic signing if you did not have this guy. Look, I would love to have that over Shed. I'd love to have had him both. But you know, if you don't have d T, you're gonna miss him enormously. You can argue that third year is going to be difficult to swallow, but you're trying to win the World Series in twenty twenty six. You need that guy behind the plate. There's more to this game than offense. It's nice, it glitters, it's what you get paid for. But the little things that guy does are pretty amazing. Todd and I went up to Lehigh Valley last night and Topper was up there and he just said, you know, if you have a catcher with bad body langu whige, he can undo your whole team and JT's body language is so good and he never panics, and the team feeds off that, and that's a good thing.

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Speaker 2: That's great.

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Speaker 1: You just say this.

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Speaker 3: Let me just say this because I'm getting on my soapbox. There's no player on the team that is more important than the catcher. Okay, he is involved. If he's an everyday catcher, he's involved in every single play of the game on the defensive side of the ball, and he controlled what happens on the field with your pitcher, it is something that is so essential to the success of a team. You don't have a good catcher, you know, somebody, have somebody who can run a game.

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Speaker 2: You are done.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's the fact.

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Speaker 3: All the teams that have success have guys who can run a game and command that position well. And JT is an important part of what the Phillies' success has been and why they've been successful over the last few years.

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Speaker 2: How many times have you heard a pitcher say I did shake off JT once all game? Or how many times have you heard a pitcher say, I only shook off JT once and that's when I threw that fastball and they got hit into the left field seats and I won't do that ever again.

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Speaker 4: So and how many times does Zach Wheeler say, I've gotten better because of JT real mudo because I can put all my focus on it, executing the pitch, because I know when there's a runner on first base, he's got it.

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Speaker 2: I don't absolutely. So if you're watching us on YouTube, we're almost at ten thousand subscribers, please hit the subscribe button and help support the show, and of course go to the Philly showshop dot com. But Jimmy, you mentioned the Lehigh Valley event last night was great. We went up there, saw some friends, chatted a little bit, great event, a lot of fun. We talked to Toper for a little bit, talked to Tom McCarthy was up there. Uh talk with those guys, and yeah that and Preston Mantically was up there and yeah, that was a great little comment by Robbie that during a Q and A about JT body language, no panic, that's why he's so important. And JT when they did announce him being re signed, there was in that audience at least there was one big loudhoot. Somebody was a real big JT fan in that audience. So I want to mention that. All right, So all the other questions pretty much fit into like two buckets. The rest of the way, about the outfield and about the starting rotation. Where do you guys want to start? Well, ask a few on these any preference.

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Speaker 4: Get the uh, We'll get the painful stuff out of the way first, go with the outfields.

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Speaker 2: With the field stuff. Okay, So this is from This is from Aaron Wheeler on Facebook, and I think you know one of us can answer this question in one sentence. Being this late into the offseason, could you see the Phillies just keeping net Castiano's for a trade to be facilitated, you'd have to eat almost all of his twenty million dollars. And I'd rather just have him platoon and left with Brandon Marsh At this point, he will be a zero. That would be I would say, there's a zero.

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Speaker 1: That's bad happening.

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Speaker 2: Don't forget.

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Speaker 1: I would not want him to to platoon. He would be miserable, miserable in platoon.

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Speaker 2: Okay. This is from George David on Facebook. What do you think the price point would be to bring back Harrison Vader? Would it significant? Would it be significantly less than the ten million dollars that his mutual option than his mutual option at the end of the season. You guys have any thoughts on Harrison Vader possibly coming back.

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Speaker 1: I have thoughts on Harrison Vader coming back.

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Speaker 3: I don't want him back unless it's really cheap, because I want them to hold powder for something that they really need later on at the trade deadline.

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Speaker 1: I like Harrison Bader what he did for that.

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Speaker 3: Team, but I don't want him back on this team because I need to give Justin Crawford an opportunity. Number one and number two. You got to hold some powder, as far as some numbers are concerned. Uh, for five million dollars, Yeah, for six million dollars, Yeah, something like that.

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Speaker 1: That's not gonna affect what I can do at the trade deadline.

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Speaker 3: But frankly, I mean, if you want to infuse some youth into this team and find out whether or not Justin Crawford can play in the major leagues and be effective, then I don't sign. Then I don't sign batter and I think we'll be unhappy if he comes back on a on a deal that's less than the number that he turned down.

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Speaker 4: And Todd, you and I were talking about this yesterday, you kind of need to if you're going to inject Justin Crawford in there, you need to find out if he can play center field. And uh because if he plays left field this year, and you know, you get Batter to play center, but he moves on as he's gonna be able to go back to center. So find out now if he can play center field and if you have to move him to left field in the future rather than vice versa. I mean, all along we've had an eye on Batter. He's wanted a three year deal, but I think we've said all along, if it's an inexpensive one year deal, then maybe. But I think that there is a real desire to see what this kid can do in center field. Unless he comes to spring training and it's really clear that he's not a center field or he can't play center field, which I don't think is going to happen, then you could maybe get better if he's still out there. But I do believe they want to see what Justin Crawford could do in center field. Test them there right away.

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Speaker 2: I absolutely agreeing. King Diddy Iddy says, why do you think why did the Phillies think Adolei Scarcia is an upgrade batting average to twenty seven last year batting average two, twenty four and twenty four. Not a World Series type of outfield, And I think a lot of it is because they needed somebody relatively inexpensive to replace Nick Cassianos. Listen, they want to move on from Nick. I mean that tells that says a lot. Gonna eat twenty million dollars to move Nick Castianos out of the clubhouse. They don't want him back. He does not want to be back. They wish it wasn't at this point. They wish he was a very productive player and happy to be here. But they just want to move on from Nick Castianos. And so that kind of tells you a lot that they're they're willing to do that. They're hoping that he can bounce back.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Garcia Garcia fit. I mean he had had that ten million dollars salary slot. I guess you'd call it where Kepler was, So he fits that. They're taking a chance that the power is going to be there. They need a right handed power back. They're taking a chance that he could come close to what he did in twenty three. I don't know if he can. He's been you know, you know, offensively bad the last two years with ops is in the mid sixes I and that's not going to help you if he interests you along at any point. He's a better defender in right field, and they're taking a taking a flyer that the bat can come back, you know, we'll see. I mean last year the out field was near the bottom defensively and below average offensively, and it's not improved this year. So I think it's gonna be an area that they continue to look to improve throughout the season. Maybe not right out of the gate, maybe not right now, but definitely throughout the season. It's it's gonna be under review.

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Speaker 1: Here's the reality.

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Speaker 3: Okay, had had Harrison Bader taken the ten million dollars, you wouldn't have a dolls Garcia. You would had Harrison Bader playing center, you would have Martian right, and you'd have Crawford and left. But had he taken it, they wouldn't have a dollars Garcia. Simple that simple math. And and I think they had to, you know, try to look for a low risk, high reward guy with an ex SU's an excellent defender. So he's got some pluses and he's got some serious power, and they're hopeful that you know, Kevin Long Kaylon could do some work with him to make him just an overall better hitter.

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Speaker 4: And guys, Bader could move soon here because Bellager's off the board and he was kind of he's kind of net in the packing order, so he could move before the snowstorm hits.

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Speaker 2: We'll see, and it sounds like I mean, of course, isn't that surprised, But Bader is still looking for a multi year deal. You know, we said one year after Bader he's not looking for a one year deal right now. Okay, one question about like just the general offense from dumpster fire on X. The Phillies need right handed power badly. Au Haniel Suarez is a free agent. Alec Bohma is a free agent at the end of the season, most likely won't be back. Why can't you trade Boem and signed Suarez short term? It makes too much sense in his mind? Is that anything that you know, You've gotten a lot of questions about au Hanyo Suarez. You know, hey, go out and get a big bat.

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Speaker 4: You know, the power makes a lot of sense. I mean, he hit almost fifty home runs last year. You know, it's right handed bat. There's a lot of you know, he would have made a lot of sense last uh last summer if you could have done something. It's it's hard to fit him in. He's more of a DH but played him third base. It's just a lot of strikeouts. And do you want to inject more strike couts into a high strikeout lineup. I think that's the thing that they're pondering. But the power is is more than intriguing.

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Speaker 2: Agree.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I've got some background noise here, guys, and I apologize for that because they're they're blowing some leaves over here.

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Speaker 4: On the field.

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Speaker 1: But I will tell you we're doing something. You might have to cut this out, Todd anyway.

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Speaker 3: The coin the matter is that you know, Lehoniosare is, while he's a very very good power hitter, he's not as.

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Speaker 1: Good a hitter as Alec Poe. Alec Bohm is a much more pure hitter.

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Speaker 3: And I think they're hopeful that Alec Bohm can can go back to that one hundred RBI type season that will help them win baseball games.

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Speaker 4: He hit under two, he hit under two hundred in Seattle over like fifty five games down the stretch. It showed some power, but he hit under two hundred.

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Speaker 2: Correct. If if you love, if you love swinging miss and Chase in the Phillies lineup, then you really would like to add a you han you and I'm not. That's the point is that you'd be living getting rid of one of your best, high contact, high average guys for more swing and miss, more chase, more power, but more swing and miss, more Chase. And if you hate that, if that makes you mental, then he's probably not a great fit for you. Okay, a couple more, we'll wrap this up. This is from David Jay on X what is their back who are their backup starting pitchers or what is their backup starting pitcher plant and the event one of the regulars goes down for an extended period. Rob Thompson has said a few times, uh recently in recent days, Zach Wheeler is hoping to be ready by opening day. Not sure that that's gonna happen, but yeah, if what happens, if Lazarda goes down or so many tweaks, a hammy, or a couple of guys go down in spring training. That is something I think they really need to try to address because the options that they have if one or two of those guys goes down is kind of scary. You have Alan Ron Hell, Geene Cabrera, you know, a couple other guys, but nobody that you go, Okay, you don't have you don't have Andrew Painter waiting in the wings because Andrew Painter is probably going to open the season in the Phillies rotation. Are you guys concerned about the rotation depth right now?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely? And I think more will be coming in here as sprint training really bears down on us. I think, you know, they've talked about continuing to kind of you know, add around the fringes and around the edges, and I think that really is going to be in the starting pitching area. I expect them to add somebody who can be a swingman and pick up some innings in rotation. Should they need Taiwan Walker, you know, probably your number five star. Very becomes very important.

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Speaker 1: Is there a Spencer Turnbull out there? Is there one? Because that's the priority right now.

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Speaker 3: If I am the general manager, I am hell bent on bringing more starting pitching in somehow, some way, right now, they see how it lines up, they see Wheeler coming, they see you know, Painter being the guy.

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Speaker 1: If you're a free agent, everybody knows it. There's a five guys that are already in the rotation.

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Speaker 3: But if I'm a starting pitcher, I'm thinking one of these guys gets tweaked, I got a chance to step right in. So it would be a really appealing place for me if I was a if I was a free agent out there who's sort of on the fringes, and I think that's got to be the priority for Davim Browski right now.

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Speaker 1: To me, it certainly would.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean Walker Buehler is still out there, you know. I don't know if they look at him as a swing guy the bit. The really good swing guy to get would be Nick Martinez, who's been incredible in the bullpen and been pretty pretty effective in the rotation. So let's see. Got some questions about this. This is from Mike C on Facebook. The Phillies weren't interested in Freddy Peralta. I think they were interested in Freddy Peralta. I mean, who wouldn't be interested in pretty Peralta. But they don't have the package of prospects that could have landed them Freddy Peralta without unless you wanted to give up Miller Crawford, you know, and then where are you there? You're kind of home.

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Speaker 4: That's got two top one hundreds. They got two top one hundred prospects for you know, Freddy Pearlton's a good pitch. I'm sure there was interested, but I just don't think they have the wherewithal in prospects to get them, or they do, but they don't want to give them up. You know, you need those guys. You need to get some young guys in here. Crawford, Miller, Painter, those guys have to get into this aging lineup real soon to bring the average age down and balance out your payroll a little bit and sustain this thing. You need some young players. That's one of the reasons Boba Schett was, you know, so intriguing. Aside from the very productive.

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Speaker 3: Bat lest we forget John Duran was traded for some young players that would create depth for this team. When you start trading for players over time. I went through it through in nine, ten and eleven. There's not an unlimited amount of prospects down there are that are super appealing, and so if you don't have a ton of those players you wish you did, then it makes it very difficult for you to make these kind of moves because you don't have ten top one hundred prospects and no one's gonna want your thirtieth prospect on your list. It's it's not gonna happen, and it's difficult to create that depth. And uh, you know, at this stage, the Mets had a little bit more for you know, for their team, and so for that one year deal, and the Mets are.

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Speaker 1: Desperate for pitching, no pitching, and they're really desperate to get him, so they had to make that move.

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Speaker 2: One other off outfield question I wanted to jump back to it I missed. This is from Zach Hopkins on X. How long of a leash do you think Justin Crawford will have assuming he breaks camp as the opening day center fielder. Does this also effectively block Johann Rojas from a major league spot? How long of a lee I think they got to give Justin Crawford a very very long runway. I mean, if he just if he's hitting two fifteen at the end of April, everybody, you gotta like, relax, take a deep breath, calm down. They got to give him more than a month. I mean, if he's hitting one twenty, that's something different maybe, But they got to let this guy's They got to see if he can play and hit his you know, produce at the big league level.

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Speaker 4: Agree, I mean, okay, he's going a new time to adjust' gonna need time to believe that he belongs here. All young players need it. I think if you can go out there and really play some good defense for you contribute there and and just don't look overmatched in you're at bats, you know, don't you know, look like you're lost in the in the surf, you know, out at the beach and during a storm. So that's where they're gonna have to really read him and communicate with him and know where he is mentally and just let him breathe and let him adjust to the level and let it let it come out. But you can't make a judgment in a week, can't make a job. I don't think he can make a complete judgment in a month. You've got to run him out there. That's why you bat him at the bottom of the order and have quality at bats. Don't chase and see what happens.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a combination of things.

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Speaker 3: If he really looks overmatched defensively and overmatched on the offensive side.

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Speaker 1: It might be a shorter leach, But I think they got to give him some runway. And it's really important.

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Speaker 3: That he plays a decent, if not at least an average center field if he's really struggling offensively, because you don't want those things to affect each other, what have you. He can't have a combination of a guy hitting a buck fifty and also struggling defensively. That's not gonna help the team. That's not gonna help anybody. And if that's the case, which I've seen with Dave Dombrowski did with a catcher with the with the Boston Red Sox, uh several years ago where and I'm brainlocking on the on the switching and catcher when I was a coach there. I mean, he was there for about a week or so, and he struggled offensively and defensively, had no way to to really help out the team a really strong prospect, and ended up making him a left fielder. They got him out of there within two weeks because it was just it was it was too much of a I mean, too important a position.

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Speaker 1: In at the catching position. And I have to remember the name.

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Speaker 4: Was trade for yes, oh swineheart.

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Speaker 1: It was it Waslake Swihart, Is that right?

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Speaker 3: I really liked him a lot, good athlete, but but defensively he was just sort of overmatched and uh, great kid, but he never he you know, it was just too detrimental to the team. And centerfield is in a really important position.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna close with this since everybody we started the show by everybody, a lot of questions about you know, how upset fans are? I got too? These are more comments. I really think this. I have his card on X. Can everyone just take a breath. This is a ninety six win team last year, even with Wheeler going down, NOLA completely ineffective, not having a closer until August, and the majority of our lineup barely hitting their body weight for a lot of the season. Everything's going to be fine. I mean, how about that? You know that this is shocker on So yeah, Craig Grove on X, is all the negativity about the Phillies off season warranted? If the Bashett thing wouldn't have happened.

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Speaker 1: I e.

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Speaker 2: He signed JT signs in December at the winter meetings or Bobachett signs early. Would the fan base be more content? Would you guys see it differently? I believe so. I believe there would be a little bit of Look at the Mets did a lot of exciting things. The Philly is the only thing they really did was bring back Schwarburn, JT. You know they they you know they got Brad Keller, they traded Strom, Castillas is gone. Did they really get But I agree. I think the fact that they were so close to Bashett has people just and I get it. I get that frustration. You wanted to you wanted a great player, you wanted an injection of life into the lineup and and all that excitement. But I think there is some truth of that there.

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Speaker 4: There's still plenty to like about this team. Plenty to like about this team.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: I'm not surprised by this comment. It's really it's kind of cool.

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Speaker 3: But I will say this, the fans would have been pissed off regardless, because the fans have an expectation now of this team that is pretty grand. Yos and that's okay because it's a really good team and they were expecting to you know, over the last few years, David Browski's brought in like a sort of a big name player. It's Turner, it's Harper, it's shorter, it's you know, it's somebody Lozardo who people didn't realize was a really big time player. So their expectation is that it's much higher than that, and I think they would have been pissed off regardless.

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Speaker 2: There we go.

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Speaker 4: That's what the word fan comes from. Fanatic. You know, they're people are fanatical, they're emotional. You know, they's spent a tough stretch, the Eagles going out, Phillies lose out on but shed people are emotional. They want to see a winner.

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Speaker 1: So it is ever enough until they win a World Series, my friends. That's how it works in Philadelphia, and that's the reality.

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Speaker 4: And they're not satisfied until they do that. You know, the owner's not satisfied till you do that. And I'll tell you what Dave Debroski said, he was content. That was GM podium zoom speak because he's gonna keep trying to do something to to win World Series. Because this is a guy. I mean, they all want to win a World Series and it could be a lot worse. I will tell you two weeks here, three weeks before spring training, there are a lot of clubs out there that would trade rosters with the Phillies tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: There's a long time the truth.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So absolutely all right, Rubin, enjoy clear water. Jim and I are going to get the salt ready, go to the store, get the eggs and the bread and the and the making chili.

00:28:35
Speaker 1: Make some chili on Sunday or the left. And there's nothing left.

00:28:38
Speaker 4: There's nothing left.

00:28:39
Speaker 2: There's nothing left. So all right, everybody, enjoy your weekend. We will be back next week.

00:28:44
Speaker 4: Smell you litle always.

00:28:45
Speaker 1: Now you're Jimmy.

00:28:46
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