223 | Preparing Children for Therapist Absences: Maternity Leave and Vacation
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In this episode of the Play Therapy Podcast, I address a question from Melissa in Colorado about how to communicate upcoming absences to children and their parents. Melissa specifically asked about handling maternity leave and vacations that require taking time away from the playroom. I outline my approach for both scenarios, explaining that vacations can be discussed simply the week before, while extended absences, such as maternity leave, need a more gradual, structured countdown to help children adjust to the time away.
I also emphasize the importance of sharing these plans with the child first, as this preserves the trust and relationship built in child-centered play therapy (CCPT). For longer breaks, I recommend a pseudo-termination process to help children prepare for the separation and understand when they'll see their therapist again. Setting clear expectations and explaining the reasons behind any absence strengthens the therapeutic relationship and reassures children during times of change.
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Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Bratton, S. C., Landreth, G. L., Kellam, T., & Blackard, S. R. (2006). Child parent relationship therapy (CPRT) treatment manual: A 10-session filial therapy model for training parents. Routledge/Taylor & Francis Group. Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.
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0 00:00:00,409 --> 00:00:03,079 You're listening to the Play Therapy Podcast with Dr 1 00:00:03,190 --> 00:00:08,119 Brenna Hicks. Your source for centered and focused play therapy coaching. 2 00:00:08,439 --> 00:00:10,630 Hi, I'm Dr. Brenna Hicks, The Kid Counselor. 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,140 This is the Play Therapy Podcast where you get a master class in child-centered, 4 00:00:14,149 --> 00:00:14,930 play therapy 5 00:00:15,119 --> 00:00:17,260 and practical support and application for 6 00:00:17,270 --> 00:00:19,409 your work with children and their families 7 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:20,620 in today's episode. I am 8 00:00:20,879 --> 00:00:23,290 bring a question from Melissa in Colorado 9 00:00:23,709 --> 00:00:28,819 and her question is about when and how to tell kids and their parents 10 00:00:29,110 --> 00:00:32,770 that you are going on vacation or you're going on maternity leave, 11 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:38,180 any kind of leave of absence from the office, how to handle that discussion. 12 00:00:38,189 --> 00:00:41,150 And she was asking for some guidance and tips. 13 00:00:41,750 --> 00:00:43,220 So we're going to dive into that 14 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,740 couple of housekeeping scenarios, please. 15 00:00:46,750 --> 00:00:51,020 If you are in Australia, make sure that you sign up for the APPTA conference. 16 00:00:51,029 --> 00:00:53,580 It's coming up in two weeks, give or take. 17 00:00:53,970 --> 00:00:56,689 So make sure that you get yourself signed up for that. 18 00:00:56,700 --> 00:01:00,860 Also, I'm doing a meet and greet while we're there, a podcast meet up. 19 00:01:00,869 --> 00:01:05,099 So if you would like to participate in that and you are attending the conference, 20 00:01:05,190 --> 00:01:08,940 please go to www.playtherapypodcast.com/meetup 21 00:01:09,220 --> 00:01:10,989 and you can get signed up for that. It's free. 22 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:12,779 It's just so that we know how many people are coming. 23 00:01:13,290 --> 00:01:19,430 All righty. So let's dive into this and the email was actually quite so short. So 24 00:01:19,660 --> 00:01:22,690 I really kind of already covered it, but I'll read a little bit of it. 25 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,180 I'm wondering when and how you tell kids and parents 26 00:01:25,190 --> 00:01:27,529 that you'll be going on maternity leave or vacation? 27 00:01:27,540 --> 00:01:30,620 That is more than one week. I would love any tips that you have. 28 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:35,069 So, Melissa. Thank you in Colorado for listening. Thanks for reaching out. 29 00:01:35,290 --> 00:01:39,230 By the way, if you are a new listener to the podcast, we're so glad you're here. 30 00:01:39,239 --> 00:01:39,870 Welcome 31 00:01:40,190 --> 00:01:43,239 and to celebrate with you all. I wanna let you know 32 00:01:43,470 --> 00:01:48,290 we just crossed the 400,000 download mark yesterday. 33 00:01:49,010 --> 00:01:51,459 So congrats to all of you, pat yourselves on the back. 34 00:01:51,470 --> 00:01:54,089 Give yourself a high five whatever you need to do to 35 00:01:54,239 --> 00:01:57,470 acknowledge your commitment to CCPT across the world. 36 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,069 Really, really excited about that. 37 00:01:59,370 --> 00:02:01,930 When we hit 500,000, we're gonna do something big. 38 00:02:01,940 --> 00:02:03,389 I don't know what that looks like, but 39 00:02:03,589 --> 00:02:06,029 we hit 300,000 not too long ago. 40 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,470 So I feel like it's actually gonna come quicker than I think 41 00:02:08,690 --> 00:02:11,300 so. I better get brainstorming if you have an idea. 42 00:02:11,710 --> 00:02:14,949 Oh my gosh. If you all are like avid podcast listeners to 43 00:02:15,289 --> 00:02:18,589 other people, I know you're all avid podcast listeners to me. 44 00:02:18,839 --> 00:02:22,529 If you listen to other people and you have ideas that you've seen or 45 00:02:22,539 --> 00:02:25,970 heard that people have done when they kind of hit milestones in the podcast. 46 00:02:25,979 --> 00:02:29,339 Shoot me an email. I'd love to know what your thoughts are because 47 00:02:29,710 --> 00:02:33,300 I'm not a podcast listener. I know shame on me, but I'm not. 48 00:02:33,550 --> 00:02:38,479 So let me know if you have an idea what we can do for the 500,000th download. 49 00:02:38,660 --> 00:02:42,110 That's a big deal. So let me know brenna@thekidcounselor.com. 50 00:02:42,119 --> 00:02:45,970 You can also send me questions for the podcast if you want to do that as well, 51 00:02:45,979 --> 00:02:50,000 or you can just say hello or you can shoot me a picture of your dog. 52 00:02:50,009 --> 00:02:50,759 I don't care. 53 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,470 I like to hear from y'all. So reach out brenna@thekidcounselor.com. 54 00:02:54,979 --> 00:02:56,000 Now, I'm literally, 55 00:02:56,009 --> 00:02:59,039 I should not have said that my inbox is going to be flooded with pictures of dogs now, 56 00:02:59,050 --> 00:02:59,699 but it's ok. 57 00:03:00,050 --> 00:03:00,619 All right. 58 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,899 So Melissa in Colorado, thank you for this. So here are my thoughts. 59 00:03:04,910 --> 00:03:08,149 You're kind of asking two separate questions and I want to 60 00:03:08,559 --> 00:03:10,100 handle them a little bit differently. 61 00:03:10,580 --> 00:03:13,690 So the maternity leave scenario is different than vacation. 62 00:03:14,009 --> 00:03:15,949 And here are my thoughts on vacation first 63 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,309 because that's obviously going to be a shorter 64 00:03:18,910 --> 00:03:23,229 skip in amount of time and therefore we can handle it a little bit differently. 65 00:03:23,669 --> 00:03:26,710 So the week before you go on vacation, in other words, 66 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,770 the final session that you're going to have with the child 67 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:31,649 before you go on vacation 68 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:33,940 at the end of the session, 69 00:03:34,869 --> 00:03:37,589 you let child know first. 70 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,899 So typically parent is already there because you're, 71 00:03:39,910 --> 00:03:41,740 you would assume you'd be in the lobby at that point. 72 00:03:42,229 --> 00:03:46,490 So a parent is probably going to overhear, but you always start with the child first. 73 00:03:46,500 --> 00:03:48,490 So you get down on their eye level. 74 00:03:48,500 --> 00:03:52,779 If that means you bend over, you squat, you kneel whatever you have to do, 75 00:03:52,940 --> 00:03:54,570 you get down on the child's level 76 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,970 and you just very clearly and concisely say 77 00:03:58,199 --> 00:04:00,830 I wanted to let you know I'm going on vacation next week. 78 00:04:00,839 --> 00:04:04,740 So I won't play with you next Wednesday or whatever their normal day is. 79 00:04:04,979 --> 00:04:07,410 But I will see you the week after and then I'll be able 80 00:04:07,419 --> 00:04:09,570 to tell you all about what I did when I was gone. 81 00:04:11,119 --> 00:04:12,899 So it's just that simple. It's, 82 00:04:13,139 --> 00:04:15,949 I won't see you next week because I'm going on vacation, 83 00:04:16,769 --> 00:04:18,869 but I'll be able to tell you about it when 84 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,220 I come back and I'll see you the following week. 85 00:04:21,730 --> 00:04:24,489 So as long as they understand that they're skipping a week, 86 00:04:24,619 --> 00:04:26,779 taking a week off and why 87 00:04:27,570 --> 00:04:29,660 that eliminates any confusion. 88 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:31,769 It makes it easy for the child to understand. 89 00:04:31,779 --> 00:04:35,440 If they ask questions, you can answer them. Sometimes they say, where are you going? 90 00:04:35,450 --> 00:04:40,040 Are you going on an airplane? What are you going to do? Are you going to take pictures? 91 00:04:40,049 --> 00:04:40,070 So 92 00:04:40,299 --> 00:04:43,660 sometimes they're curious and you can engage in that conversation. 93 00:04:43,959 --> 00:04:48,250 But other times they just go ok. And then other times they go, oh, 94 00:04:48,519 --> 00:04:51,779 and then you reflect, oh, you really wish that you could see me next week. 95 00:04:51,790 --> 00:04:53,980 But we're only going to take one week off and then 96 00:04:53,989 --> 00:04:55,910 I'll get to play with you the Wednesday after that. 97 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:58,190 So you just make it really clear. 98 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,540 Now, if mom and dad were not present for that conversation, 99 00:05:01,709 --> 00:05:05,160 then you make sure as you say goodbye to mom and dad 100 00:05:05,429 --> 00:05:06,660 that you let them know. 101 00:05:06,670 --> 00:05:06,920 Hey, 102 00:05:06,929 --> 00:05:09,970 I just want to let you know I won't be here next week because I'm going on vacation. 103 00:05:09,980 --> 00:05:11,299 So we'll skip a week. 104 00:05:11,359 --> 00:05:13,380 But you always make sure that you share that with 105 00:05:13,390 --> 00:05:16,859 the child first because your allegiance is to the child, 106 00:05:16,869 --> 00:05:17,859 first and foremost, 107 00:05:18,329 --> 00:05:21,070 ok, maternity leave a little bit of a different scenario. 108 00:05:21,079 --> 00:05:24,869 So most often maternity leave is going to be at least six weeks. 109 00:05:24,970 --> 00:05:28,109 My therapists have gone on maternity leave for three months. 110 00:05:28,329 --> 00:05:28,950 So 111 00:05:29,239 --> 00:05:30,500 I understand that 112 00:05:31,089 --> 00:05:33,000 that's a much longer break. 113 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,130 So we handle it a little bit differently 114 00:05:35,250 --> 00:05:40,410 as soon as you are about five weeks out from your maternity leave. 115 00:05:40,570 --> 00:05:42,790 That's when you want to inform parents 116 00:05:43,250 --> 00:05:45,420 and that's when you want to inform children because 117 00:05:45,429 --> 00:05:48,589 you are essentially going to do a pseudo termination. 118 00:05:49,519 --> 00:05:53,170 In other words, if you're going to be gone for six weeks or more, 119 00:05:53,959 --> 00:05:57,200 the child is going to interpret that as an eternity. 120 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,820 So even if they're going to wait for you and many people will, 121 00:06:01,559 --> 00:06:06,309 some will drop off and not come back. And that's just the nature of taking a, 122 00:06:06,429 --> 00:06:06,440 a 123 00:06:06,850 --> 00:06:08,420 longer extended break. 124 00:06:08,730 --> 00:06:09,940 Some will wait for you. 125 00:06:09,950 --> 00:06:14,369 But in either scenario, you want to have a proper termination process, 126 00:06:14,519 --> 00:06:17,980 even if it's just for maternity leave and they'll return. 127 00:06:18,084 --> 00:06:22,364 So you might not do to the extent that you would normally do the termination, meaning 128 00:06:22,734 --> 00:06:24,984 the giveaways and the certificate and all that stuff. 129 00:06:24,994 --> 00:06:27,084 But you still want to do the countdown 130 00:06:27,434 --> 00:06:29,575 and you still want to help the child process the 131 00:06:29,584 --> 00:06:32,184 fact that you are going to be taking a break. 132 00:06:32,195 --> 00:06:34,375 So that conversation is a little bit different. 133 00:06:35,054 --> 00:06:38,845 So I'm not going to be working for a little bit after I have the baby. 134 00:06:39,730 --> 00:06:42,200 But when I 135 00:06:42,309 --> 00:06:43,040 am, 136 00:06:43,739 --> 00:06:48,049 you know, six weeks after having the baby or eight weeks after having the baby, 137 00:06:48,339 --> 00:06:52,320 I'm going to come back. So I'll get to play with you in X number of weeks. 138 00:06:52,959 --> 00:06:54,609 But that is 139 00:06:54,980 --> 00:07:00,410 after you've already done the 54321 countdown. So that conversation is 140 00:07:00,829 --> 00:07:02,679 so I'm gonna be having a baby soon. 141 00:07:02,690 --> 00:07:06,640 So I'm going to see you five more times and we're going to play together five more 142 00:07:06,649 --> 00:07:10,290 times before I take a break to stay home with the baby after the baby is born. 143 00:07:10,660 --> 00:07:13,010 And then you do the same thing for the four week, the three week, 144 00:07:13,019 --> 00:07:14,570 the two week and the one week mark, 145 00:07:15,070 --> 00:07:18,730 then you have your final session, it's a termination of sorts, 146 00:07:18,739 --> 00:07:20,450 even if they intend to come back 147 00:07:21,059 --> 00:07:23,859 and you let them know that you will reach back out 148 00:07:23,869 --> 00:07:25,899 as soon as you're able to play with them again. 149 00:07:26,369 --> 00:07:28,399 And then that will 150 00:07:28,950 --> 00:07:32,260 reset. So that when they come back, they, 151 00:07:32,700 --> 00:07:34,119 you know, still have the relationship, 152 00:07:34,130 --> 00:07:36,320 but they're kind of building up the momentum again. 153 00:07:37,410 --> 00:07:39,709 And it's really important that 154 00:07:39,959 --> 00:07:41,980 you let the child know 155 00:07:42,529 --> 00:07:45,350 why every time you're going to take a break. 156 00:07:45,529 --> 00:07:49,649 So if it's a vacation, if it's a surgery, if it's, even if you're sick, 157 00:07:49,769 --> 00:07:53,059 if you are going on maternity leave, whatever the scenario is, 158 00:07:53,070 --> 00:07:55,859 the child needs to know why you're not going to be there. 159 00:07:55,869 --> 00:07:59,190 That's really important because that preserves the relationship and the trust 160 00:07:59,790 --> 00:08:01,970 and you want the child to hear it first. 161 00:08:02,279 --> 00:08:05,619 You never want child to hear it from a parent or caregiver. 162 00:08:05,739 --> 00:08:07,609 You want them to hear it directly from you 163 00:08:08,410 --> 00:08:11,820 because that preserves the relationship and the trust and the bond 164 00:08:11,940 --> 00:08:12,989 that has been built. 165 00:08:13,619 --> 00:08:17,720 So I hope that that is helpful to all of you because we inevitably 166 00:08:17,970 --> 00:08:20,190 go on trips, we take vacations, 167 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,570 we sometimes have medical procedures or someone in our family 168 00:08:23,589 --> 00:08:26,519 has medical procedures and we become a caregiver for, 169 00:08:26,529 --> 00:08:27,880 you know, a week or so for them. 170 00:08:28,350 --> 00:08:31,679 And it's always important that we handle that appropriately. 171 00:08:31,859 --> 00:08:34,308 We just wanna make sure that expectations are clear. 172 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,599 That is the most important thing kids can handle anything 173 00:08:37,619 --> 00:08:40,179 as long as they know what the expectations are. 174 00:08:40,289 --> 00:08:42,929 So we wanna be really clear and concise 175 00:08:42,940 --> 00:08:46,619 when we give the explanation and the expectations 176 00:08:46,909 --> 00:08:50,609 and then we are able to take that break and start right back up again. 177 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:52,539 All right, Melissa in Colorado. 178 00:08:52,549 --> 00:08:56,299 Thank you so much for the question and I really appreciate you all reaching out 179 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,409 with the things that you're wondering about and curious about. 180 00:08:59,609 --> 00:09:03,059 As always, I love y'all. Have a great week. We'll talk again soon. Bye. 181 00:09:03,780 --> 00:09:07,760 Thank you for listening to the Play Therapy Podcast with Dr Brenna Hicks. 182 00:09:07,770 --> 00:09:09,919 For more episodes and resources. 183 00:09:09,929 --> 00:09:14,840 Please go to www.playtherapypodcast.com.