Sean O'Malley & Chito Vera's Fight Predictions for UFC 299 in EXCLUSIVE Interviews
Dana White and Hunter Campbell hooked the boys up with Suga Sean O'Malley and Chito Vera for two interviews ahead of their headlining fight on UFC 299. O'Malley gives his fight prediction, the importance of his routine, tips to secret coffee, and how he is able to remain calm among the hype and chaos. Next, Vera explains how growing up in Ecuador shaped him into the fighter he is today and what he learned about the Suga Show in their first meeting. Safe to say the UFC put together another banger of a card! 0:00 Intro 4:45 SEAN O'MALLEY INTERVIEW STARTS 7:45 First fight w/ Chito 11:30 Pre-fight anxiety/breath work 19:15 Sean failed the same drug test as Taylor 23:40 Sean's Fight Prediction 26:45 Spelling Bee 29:07 CHITO VERA INTERVIEW STARTS 33:15 Remaining calm w/ all of the pressure 36:00 Chito's favorite junk food 39:00 Growing up in Ecuador & learning to fight 47:00 Chito will never get jumped 49:00 When Chito realized he could be a professional fighter ---- SHOP: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/bussin-with-the-boys FOLLOW THE BOYS Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bussinwtb/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/BussinWTB Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BussinWTB/ Website: https://www.bussinwtb.com LISTEN iTunes: http://bit.ly/BWTB_Apple Spotify: http://bit.ly/BWTB_Spotify
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00:00:00 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to a bonus episode of Busting with the Boys. We are in Miami, Florida at this very moment, and we just sat down with the main cart event, Sugarshan Omalley versus Cheeto Vera. It is going down Saturday. It is Wednesday now when you're watching this on Thursday, on Friday or Saturday before the fight. This is leading up to this fight. We sat down there. We're gonna get you guys to fight very cool or the interview very quickly. However, we're gonna tell you who we want to not, who we want to win, who we think is gonna win. 00:00:30 Speaker 2: Will We'll start with you well number one. 00:00:34 Speaker 3: We need to shout out to the UFC Dana Hunter for allowing us to be getting to sit down with like the main event. And you can like feel it too, like walking in the hallways and sitting down in here and sitting with each one, like when Cheeto sat down with us. 00:00:47 Speaker 2: Legitimately, my heart rate was like pumping. 00:00:49 Speaker 3: It's like, dude, these guys are about to they're about to go to war on Saturday. 00:00:54 Speaker 2: But listen to both of them. Man, I'm like. 00:00:58 Speaker 3: It sucks because I kind of I'm like rooting for both of them. It's like I was telling you before we sat down to do this, I would enjoy watching kind of the reign of Sugar Shan O'Malley happen because of like the Connor McGregor's, the John Jones of the world who's had like their. 00:01:13 Speaker 2: Long reigns, and it would be cool. 00:01:15 Speaker 3: Does he Shan kind of do the same thing, especially since people have been like, oh, they've been feeding in fights and kind of setting him up, and he's coming off big wins with with a Yan and al Joe. But but yeah, man, and then you got Cheetoh, who we've hung around with at Shane Gillis's comedy in Vegas, so we know him a little bit. We know he's a fan of busting with the boys. He's very like grounded and rooted, and he just knows who he is and is confident in who he is. And you're just like fired up for both. So I'm like torn. 00:01:42 Speaker 2: But if I had to put my money. 00:01:45 Speaker 1: Somewhere hashtag DK partner, hashtag DK partner, who do you got? Let me say this, the opinion I'm going to give at this very moment is going to be based on the interviews we just tad, and to me, Sean was great. He sat down, he answered the questions, but it felt to me that he was doing this interview so he can go focus on his stuff. Cheetoh, on the other hand, seems like present in the moment, taking everything instride as it comes to him, and so it's really just a first impression on the mic. With these guys, I sit in the same boat as you when it comes to I want, like, if either one wins, I'm excited for regardless of what storyline happens. It'd be sick to see Sean do that, but it also starting a formal relationship with Cheeto. It'd be cool to like put that in your back pocket of being like, Okay, i'm gonna root this is the guy I'm gonna root from now on, kind of keeping them on the same playing field. Though I came in here thinking Sean O'Malley Arizona astring. 00:02:53 Speaker 2: Brothers, asting brothers. 00:02:58 Speaker 4: But I'm gonna go with Cheetoh. 00:03:00 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to go with Cheeto, And I got like, if Sean wins, happy for Sean. I still hope it's an amazing fight. Yeah, and I'll just I will now go back to Sean, but I think I'm with you. 00:03:11 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a cheat. 00:03:12 Speaker 1: Ah yeah, I know we had this conversation before, but I legit thought about just switching just now. That's how on the fence I am. That's how much I'm. 00:03:18 Speaker 2: Like in Cheetoh though. 00:03:19 Speaker 3: It's like it's tough to beat a good underdog story, and obviously Sean can have his. He has this kind of underdog mentality about it too. But knowing that this dude was coming in the UFC and talks about, you know, just trying to win a fight so he can live another month in the US, so he can continue to train and kind of do his thing, and knowing he's got the three kids, he's got a he's gonna have a huge kind of crowd on Saturday. 00:03:43 Speaker 2: He's just like, you can't help but to just root for that bro. 00:03:46 Speaker 1: And then just coming in hanging out and he is the underdog, scrappy hair, scrappy beard. Yeah, and Sean comes in the exact opposite, like hair got the perm going the blue and the pink, he got his trunks that he's super excited about. Multiple chains that don't really make sense now, They're not layered, they're just kind of there in the suit with no shirt on. It's like completely different parallels of personality that both excite me. I feel like this is gonna be It's just gonna be awesome. 00:04:10 Speaker 4: I'm like fired up for Saturday, dude. 00:04:12 Speaker 3: I know it's it's it's sick that the relationship with Busting and the UFC has gotten to where we're at UFC two ninety nine and we will be fucking in the action. Hell yeah on Saturday. But I'm rolling with you. I'm rolling Cheeto, going Cheato the. 00:04:28 Speaker 2: Dog, the scrappy dog grew up fighting. 00:04:31 Speaker 1: If you're gonna roll with the boys, hashtag DK partner. Obviously, DraftKings is the place to go for all that. We'll let you guys get in the interviews right now. Obviously I see us enough. Let's get right into these. We appreciate you guys. Please subscribe, unsubscribed, resubscribe all those things, big hugs and tiniest of kisses. 00:04:46 Speaker 2: How are we feeling, dude? 00:04:48 Speaker 6: Well, I've had about four or five ounce chicken without salt and a couple of handfuls of blueberry and about way too much water. 00:04:54 Speaker 2: Yeah, you could work for the most. 00:04:58 Speaker 1: Part is this is this the biggest struggle now is just like the weight thing and knowing you have to cut. 00:05:02 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's it's uh yeah, it sucks, it really does. 00:05:08 Speaker 1: Why do we have to do this? 00:05:10 Speaker 5: Dude? 00:05:11 Speaker 2: The pink shorts incredible? How fired up are you? 00:05:13 Speaker 5: Yeah? 00:05:13 Speaker 6: I'm pumped. Uh. You know, I feel like I was able to get those pink shorts because of the performance I put on against Aljae. I feel like you can't ask for stuff like that if you're you know, if I win a decision. But the fact I went out there and put his lights out and asked for a little favor, I think they came in. 00:05:27 Speaker 2: How was that conversation with Dana Hunter? 00:05:30 Speaker 6: You know, Hunter made it happen. Hunter is the fucking man. So Hunter made that happen. Yeah, simple bro. 00:05:39 Speaker 3: I I was checking out earlier your most recent vlog with your morning routine, big fan, rocking the Daily Dad, reading the Daily Dad, your morning routine, your your world famous coffee. 00:05:51 Speaker 2: What do you do? You just buy a little frauter for the for the heavy cream. 00:05:55 Speaker 6: Yeah, the fro that's a huge part of froth in the milk. But using that arrow press machine you got. You gotta have good quality organic beans, some good quality organic honey, some organic heavy whipping cream. 00:06:06 Speaker 5: It's all you really need. 00:06:06 Speaker 6: And add a little cinnamon on top if you want. But fuck, I missed that. 00:06:12 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fine. 00:06:13 Speaker 6: I've been doing it for I have like six years, same way, aerow press every morning. It's fucking it's the most I use that as a pre workout. You know, it's fucking I love that. 00:06:24 Speaker 4: Do you do yourselfie? Have somebody else do it? 00:06:26 Speaker 5: You know? 00:06:26 Speaker 4: No, I do it. 00:06:26 Speaker 6: I enjoy doing that myself, So I'll do that for myself probably forever. I enjoy that little bit of the morning routine. 00:06:34 Speaker 1: Yeah, the morning routine, Like how long did it take you to establish it? 00:06:36 Speaker 5: How long you've been doing it for? 00:06:37 Speaker 6: I feel like that's been a build up about six seven years, adding a little something. You know. It used to be like, Okay, I'm gonna start a morning, I'm gonna start a routine. I'm gonna fucking wake up hit a ten minute meditation. That's kind of like where I started a routine. It used to be, you know, when I first started, it was like just the three minute meditation. Learn kind of get into that, and then it went from three minutes to five minutes, five minutes to ten minutes, ten minutes. Okay, I'm gonna do that. I'm gonna do a red light. I'm gonna do the cold plunge. I'm gonna do this that. I haven't been doing the cold punge right now. It's been doing fucking cold but in the summer in Arizona, it's like the cold punge in the morning's nice. But yeah, I built that over up over the last five six years. 00:07:13 Speaker 3: Proh the Sugar Era. How excited are do you about your first title defense. 00:07:20 Speaker 4: I'm very excited. 00:07:20 Speaker 6: It's, you know, before I was champ, I felt like I was a champ. I was making the most money in the division. I had the biggest name in the division, so I felt like I was kind of champ, you know, for the last three four years. But now I'm officially the champ defending the belt. You know, now I'm the main event getting pay per viewpoints. It's it's the highest of levels you get, and it's exciting. 00:07:41 Speaker 1: With your opponent that you have taking technically the only loss and your career even I know, the whole thing. 00:07:47 Speaker 4: Yeah, having it go down the way it did. 00:07:50 Speaker 1: Is this like not only like a you're defending a belt, but this is like a revenge tour as well for. 00:07:54 Speaker 5: You a little bit. 00:07:56 Speaker 6: It is kind of because of what happened in the first fight. But also, you know, I've never lost sleep over that fight. I've never been like that fight's never bothered me ever because I'm in the position I'm in right now because of that fight. I was a comin event on a massive pay per view that fight. If I were to go out there and beat him, you know, I maybe fought someone in the top five. Maybe I wasn't ready at the time, but you know, that fight played out the way it did. I come back fight Thomas Almeida knock him out what seven eight times at one fight. It was incredible. So I wouldn't have been able to have that performance if that didn't play out. So I've never really felt like it was revenge as far as like I need to get that one back. 00:08:30 Speaker 1: Because I don't feel like it's it's not there to me. 00:08:32 Speaker 2: Never. 00:08:33 Speaker 6: You know, I didn't lose because his skills were better than mine that night. It was a freak acent How many times has that happened since that fight, you know, three and a half few years later, not a lot. 00:08:41 Speaker 1: Yeah, with that nerve, Like take us into like what that feels like. It's like you shood on the toilet, score on the phone for too long, and now your legs are fallen asleep or is it one of those deals where it's like a shooting pain, like if you did something to your back, Like how does that feel? 00:08:54 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's uh so years before that. In my second UFC fight, I tore my I had Liz Frank surgery. So in the middle of my of my fights, my foot snapped and uh that was that was a two year recovery. That was horrible in my head boom, I feel like it felt like that. So instantly I'm thinking, fuck my I wasn't thinking it's a nerve and my foot, my foot just couldn't you know. I needed to come back. 00:09:19 Speaker 4: I was thinking my foot to steps and half again. 00:09:21 Speaker 6: But I also before I walked out, I had ankle wraps on and they were too tight, and I was telling them I was having one of my corners. I'm like, will you trying to loosen this up a little bit? Like there felt so tight, So I think when you hit the nerve and that shut off, I got dropped foot, so I couldn't lift my foot up, so I kept rolling it. I think that nerve would have came back, that rap wasn't so tight. You know that's bro science, but that's what I felt like. You know, it was kind of kind of happening. Would that have came back? I don't know, you know it it happened in previous fights to other people where they get that nerve and they kind of roll their foot of come times, but it comes back. I think my raps were a little bit too tight that night. 00:09:56 Speaker 3: How are how are your emotions different this fight compared to the Algo fight. I remember your your post fight you talked about that was the most nervous you've ever been for a fight. How what's the difference leading up to this weekend? 00:10:10 Speaker 6: Yeah, going into a fight healthy compared to going to a fight, you know, compromised, is a big difference. I feel like I was able to get to that you know, confidence state of mind to where I was in there and I was you know, it wasn't bothering me. I wasn't thinking about it. It was you know, the game plans do not let this guy touch me anyway. It was just maxed out because I was dealing with a rib injury, so you know, it was it's definitely different. I'm going into this fight healthy and it's uh, you know, Aljoe to me was the hardest, the biggest test in the division. Obviously he was the champ, but not the champ's not always the hardest fight in the division. He was the hardest fight and the champ and going into there compromised. It was it was I had a lot of mental chatter back and forth that I was able to overcome every time, so that didn't really phase me then. But yeah, I feel really really good going into this fight. The thing about Cheetos, so he's so durable. That's what makes him so dangerous. This is a twenty five minute fight. If I don't put his lights out, you know, and I do a lot of damage, I could potentially gas myself out and then get finished or lose a decision. So it's, uh, you know, there's interesting challenges in this fight, but I feel good. 00:11:19 Speaker 1: And you when you were dealing with the uh going into fighting for your for the belt and you're having all these nerves that you had to break through, Like what is like your process that helps you break through? Kind of that you're because you can be enabled by fear or I just. 00:11:32 Speaker 3: Feel like it because yeah, I'm super curious, because yeah, as athletes, like people will be lying if you don't lay on the pillow and think about, Okay, what if I miss his tackle? 00:11:40 Speaker 2: What if I the night before game? 00:11:42 Speaker 3: But you envisioned success, but you also at the same time, you're like fighting those demons of like, Okay, don't doubt yourself, like you've put you've prepared, you put in the work. 00:11:50 Speaker 2: But yeah, I feel like we all go through that yeah stuff. 00:11:52 Speaker 6: I think the biggest one of the biggest things is trusting the process and not just saying that, but truly truly trusting the process. Like I'm here for a reason. I've been knocking people out since I was sixteen. You know, I've been knocking people out for thirteen years now, so I know I'm capable of putting his lights out. And another thing is just accepting that if it doesn't go my way. 00:12:13 Speaker 5: Life's good. 00:12:14 Speaker 6: You know I have I'm you know, life's not over. If I go out there and lose, my life's still good. Yeah, I'm gonna get hated on the internet whatever, none that really bothers me. I feel like I've came to accept that, truly accept that, to where it's like I can let go of those thoughts because if it happens, you know, my life, I'm still super blessed, super grateful to be in the position I'm in. And I feel like I've been able to do that early early on in my career just accept whatever happens, life's gonna be good. So like allows me to be able to not constantly keep thinking about, oh, what if this happens. I'm like, what if anything happens, fuck it, Life's gonna be good onto the next And I feel like that's what really kind of allows me to let go of thinking and enter that flow state whatever you want to call it, by not being attach to those thoughts. 00:13:01 Speaker 3: What is something that you've like gravitated towards when kind of cultivating that mindset, because I feel like it's fascinating, right, Like you have the get up you have, but you're also very intentional, you know, the daily day, Like there's some type of stoic philosophy that you also have in there to counterbalance everything how do you stay intentional? How do you stay balanced when wanting to be the celebrity and then also wanting to be the grounded fighter of like accepting whatever outcome that there might be. 00:13:26 Speaker 6: I mean, I would say routine is the biggest one, but also having a three year old princess, like that'll just fu Like what else is there to do? Yeah, I'm twenty nine, making a lot of money of status. I could go out and do whatever I want to do, party, do all that, but at the end of the day, it's like I just want to hang out with you know, hang out with Elena. So that keeps me very, very grounded. That's completely changed my life, and I feel like that's what I don't even know if I have. I like to think of myself as a very disciplined person, but like, man if I didn't have a little princess at home, I might not be the position I'm in. So that that keeps me grounded. 00:14:02 Speaker 2: I love that. And congrats on the three year old by the. 00:14:04 Speaker 4: Way, tossing the hat. 00:14:06 Speaker 2: Yeah we got yeah, yeah, we gotta get you right, So. 00:14:09 Speaker 4: We got on. 00:14:09 Speaker 6: But my girl would kill me right now. 00:14:12 Speaker 1: We got I got two girls. He's got a girl, so yeah, we know that life, dude, it definitely changes. 00:14:17 Speaker 6: Two years old, six and three, six and three, man, I wouldn't There's there's these two little girls at the gym that Atlanta goes and plays with that are like four and two, and I'm like, I it just melts. 00:14:27 Speaker 2: My age is like their full life man? 00:14:30 Speaker 6: So fun more. 00:14:32 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, is there that piece of you that like wants that boy? 00:14:37 Speaker 2: A boy would be cool? 00:14:38 Speaker 6: I mean if I if you know, ten years down the line, you're like, fuck, I got three girls. I wouldn't be mad, you know, having a princess and it's just I don't know, but a little boy would be fun just to kind of get him into sports. I would love I would love, you know if I I would love him to be into sports, and I'm like, I wouldn't want them the box. I wouldn't want the m m a. 00:14:55 Speaker 5: Jiu jitsu for sure. 00:14:56 Speaker 6: Football is probably at like my favorite sport to walk and kind of was growing up my favorite sport, but it's so brutal. I'm like, fuck, I don't know if I would want to be able to I could watch him do that, So I'd probably want to get into like basketball or something. 00:15:10 Speaker 5: You know, some. 00:15:10 Speaker 2: White would be golf, Yeah, golf something I. 00:15:13 Speaker 1: Don't know, dude, football is kind of tight football, I agree. 00:15:16 Speaker 3: I mean it's just sitting here with my low back is just burning right now. 00:15:21 Speaker 2: He's trying to get. 00:15:21 Speaker 6: Stressed a dad watching your your little one fuck get cloked as a running back or something. Yeah, fucking hard and knowing just how you know risky it is with with brain injuries. 00:15:32 Speaker 5: And all that. 00:15:33 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's gonna be an interesting conversation when your son's like, hey, dad, I really want to play football and you're like, yeah, but the head. 00:15:37 Speaker 4: Injuries and he just like pulls up. 00:15:39 Speaker 1: You get smacked in the head like a compilation if you just getting hit a bunch of times in the face. 00:15:43 Speaker 6: Yeah, it'll be a hopefully you know, if across that it will cross it. 00:15:47 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:15:47 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:15:48 Speaker 3: How do you see uh how long do you see the rain going on? What does that look like for like a fighter who you finally because you become the champion, obviously you don't want to get too far ahead, you don't want to you know, do too much. But what does the rain look like for uh Sean O'Malley. 00:16:05 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's very very rare. A rain plays out like an Israel Oita Sonia like I don't remember, like a John Jones. 00:16:11 Speaker 5: I guess as well. 00:16:12 Speaker 6: You know, it's rare when when there's a champ that stays there for multiple years. Uh in the fact, like Alexander Wolkonowski and Izzy we're great examples of that. So I would love to have a rain like that. You know, the pantamweight division is absolutely stacked. There's killers after killers at they're killers. So you know, I would like to have a long, nice rain. But also, you know, you never know. I'm gonna go with the flow. I don't want to say I want to do this and then I wake up one morning I'm like, man, I really don't want to do this, but I also said I did, so I'm gonna I'm just gonna do it. I'm gonna go with how I feel. And if I wake up one morning and I'm ready to call it quits, and you know, I'm so, I'm just gonna go with the flow. 00:16:48 Speaker 1: You talked about your one of your inspirations getting into the sport, and somebody you kind of want to emulate was Connor McGregor. Have your interactions ever been with him. 00:16:58 Speaker 6: I've had one interaction with Connor uh the Dallas Cowboys football game. He was off the proper twelve. I couldn't understand him. His accent was a little thick and he was a little buzzed up. So we had a little conversation. It was loud, hard to understand. He was thicker than fuck at the time. Just on some shit, I think. 00:17:15 Speaker 5: But so I didn't. 00:17:17 Speaker 6: I didn't really have you know, that was brief. But yeah, I look up to Connor's He's done really well for himself. I love what he's done. He's my favorite fighter to watch out a press conference, interview, fight. Like, just love everything about Connor. So it took huge inspiration from him. 00:17:34 Speaker 3: How do you look at uh, Probably you're a business guy yourself, like all the business endeavors and everything, and kind of seeing how Connor has he's in the situation that he's in where he's thinking about coming back or his comeback's coming at some point we have no clue when, uh, but like watching his kind of journey with it all and not I guess getting too caught up in all the business and everything else and keeping yourself in check if you want to stay in the fight game, you know, at a high level, like you want to. 00:18:02 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean you definitely, you gotta be all in. You can't be in this sport if you want to stay on top, you gotta be all in. And that's where my head's at right now. I want to stay on top. I want to be all in, and I don't foresee in the near future that I'm not going to think like that. I feel like, you know, you learn from people that do certain things, and uh, you know, he went in all all and the thing is too It's like it was the whiskey business. You know, you gotta drink it to promote it. You can't just you know, promote it. So I think he was, you know, maybe maybe drinking a little bit too much, a little you know, maybe not. I don't know, obviously I'm not him, but uh yeah, you learn for lessons from people like that. I want to you gotta stay in the gym and stay dialed. 00:18:43 Speaker 1: Yeah again, the same supplements as him, dude, Yeah you lee, I don't think illegally it can. 00:18:47 Speaker 3: By the way, yeah, we got too. I'm sure two people who failed for ostering. Taylor failed for oustering as well. 00:18:53 Speaker 1: Twenty nineteen, I had a trace amount in my dusted Yeah, are you serious? And so I don't don't know what your situation was. Like, I'll give you the quick brief. 00:19:02 Speaker 2: One. 00:19:02 Speaker 1: I was working with this nutritus in New York and he gave me whole bunch of supplements to take and then April I took a drug test. May like you popped, and like the way the judicial system in the NFL works is like, unless you can find the batch, you're out. 00:19:16 Speaker 6: You just gave me anxiety. 00:19:17 Speaker 5: Brother, I have that. 00:19:18 Speaker 4: Stuff to do a couple of days before a fight. 00:19:20 Speaker 2: But yeah, what was dude? 00:19:22 Speaker 6: I I it was I when I get drug tests now, I get so much anxiety every single time because the same thing happened to me. 00:19:32 Speaker 2: I tested. 00:19:33 Speaker 6: I was like three weeks out from a fight. They called me that you failed the drug test, and I thought I was getting I didn't think I was. It was serious. I'm like, I don't take anything that Like, there's no way. And it was the same thing. Trace amount picograms, which is like what a trillionth of a gram? 00:19:48 Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like it was taking a pinch of salt and putting in an Olympic sized pool. 00:19:51 Speaker 6: Yeah, so they said I tested for Austrian. I remember just fucking crying. I'm like, there's I'm getting suspended for taking something that I didn't take or at least intentionally, because it was trace amounts, so it had to have been in something I took and we never found out where it came from either. So I got suspended and I was out for a while, and that fucking broke my heart. And uh I got a lot of shit online from it, people saying you all you failed, you saw it. 00:20:17 Speaker 5: I'm like, you do. 00:20:18 Speaker 6: I look like I'm on ship, dude, I'm like one hundred and eight pounds soaking wet. So, uh, you know, Thankfully I don't really get that hate anymore, because I thought maybe that would linger around. But I think for the most part, when when if you if you look into it and it's trace amounts and it's like you saw it came out and said, yeah, I mean there's it's such a small amount, that's it. They actually changed the law, changed the rule because Nate Diaz tested for something. It wasn't austream, but it was something similar, and he tested for under one hundred peacograms, So they changed the after after my case it's which sucks because I still got suspended. But after that they changed it that if it's under a hundred peakograms, it's not as a failed test. But that's crazy. That shit blew my fucking mind. 00:20:57 Speaker 5: I was, Yeah, that's. 00:20:58 Speaker 1: Why I wouldn't take a deep dive during the whole austring thing, like trying to figure out what it's for. It's for osteoporosis, Like it's like not even regular like approved, it's a It was a crazy thing for me that I was like, I don't what was like the appeal process like with the UFC, how did. 00:21:12 Speaker 2: That even work? 00:21:13 Speaker 6: Honestly? Like UFC, I mean I had conversations with them to where I was like, guys, listen, I didn't take anything. They're like, yeah, we know. 00:21:21 Speaker 5: It's such a fuck. 00:21:22 Speaker 6: It's such a small amount that there's just no way you you did. And so they were trust they trusted me, they believed me, and they helped me just kind of get through it, and they you know, how to still you know, abide by the USADA rules and stuff and still just get suspended and stuff. But it actually I got suspended twice for it because it was still in my because I got tested again and it was still in my system, Like that's fucked. 00:21:43 Speaker 4: How far apart were the tests? 00:21:45 Speaker 6: Well, I ended up getting tested like fifty something times that year, so they were there was times that they're test me back to back days and they were all such low levels that it that they were they were confused. They were like, I fucking know what to do, like such a low amount, but it's technically still you gotta we gotta test you and just yeah. 00:22:04 Speaker 2: So you ever figure out what supplement it was? No? 00:22:06 Speaker 6: Never did, And I fucking yeah, every time I get tested now to this day, I get fucking this anxiety because I don't know where it came from. I don't know if someone was fucking with me, Like my head was going there. I'm like, there's jealous people at the gym. Maybe maybe someone's fucking with me. 00:22:22 Speaker 4: Could you imagine that? 00:22:23 Speaker 2: Does that? Yeah? 00:22:24 Speaker 6: You never know. 00:22:25 Speaker 3: I mean even all NSF certified products, like if you still test like it's still ultimately on the they're like, oh, it's still your responsibility because. 00:22:32 Speaker 1: You could you get report these are supplements And they come to me and I'm in a wrestling meet watch and they're like, what supplements you take, and I take a ton of supplements right now. 00:22:40 Speaker 6: They're all NSF certified. I've been very very strict on that ever since that happened. I'm like making sure everything's third party tested. But I mean, you take, you just got to write every single one down when you took it, how much you took. 00:22:52 Speaker 5: I'm like, fuck, it's. 00:22:53 Speaker 1: Wild when you catch hate on the internet for Aean, you suck, You're not that good. They gave you an easy raw because they want to make you like a stuff like that that you can easily brush off. Yeah, but when it comes to failing for a drug test, now it's like, hey, you're a cheater. 00:23:07 Speaker 6: Yeah. 00:23:07 Speaker 1: How is that mentally for you going through that? 00:23:10 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it was that was so long ago now to where I you know, I only remember that when I'm getting tested. It bugs me for a little bit, but you know, it doesn't get brought up anymore. I think that it kind of got It's just yeah, I mean it's I'm sure now people are saying it again that they get brought up here we go. Yeah, I think it's it was such a small amount you sawt of cleared me. I mean I still got suspended but they changed the rule and it was it was looked at as that was definitely a tainted supplement. 00:23:40 Speaker 4: How do you see this fight going on Saturday? 00:23:43 Speaker 6: You know, I keep saying I there, there's potential of being a twenty five minute war. He's never been finished, he's never been dropped. This dude is tough. But I also I put people's lights out, and uh, you know we're in Miami. I got pink shorts when I you know, my hair is gonna be looking good. 00:24:01 Speaker 5: It already is. 00:24:02 Speaker 6: I'm feeling good. It's it's just my time. So I do believe I go out there and put his lights out? 00:24:07 Speaker 5: What round? 00:24:09 Speaker 6: A lot of people are telling me third? You know, I mean last fight, A lot of people when I thought out Joe, I mean you start here, everyone tells you, hey, I think so a lot of last fight was like, hey, I think a second round knockout. Is hearing that from a lot of people? Sure as shit put his lights out in round two? Now I'm here in round three, we'll see. 00:24:26 Speaker 1: Bringing this interview full circle, you start the conversation talking about Cheeto and how he's never been finished and it could go twenty five minutes and all that and so you talk about you might get gassed out and that's how you get finished. How do you like go into this fight? Do you take a little bit off, feel it out for a little bit, not as balancing, not as twitchy, or you kind of like see where he's at and how he wants to approach it, or are you full aggressive, gonna be yourself no matter what. 00:24:51 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gotta be myself. I can't go in there, you know, and I just got to do what I've been doing, and you know, trust the process. Whatever happened happens. But uh, I do believe I'll put his lights out. 00:25:03 Speaker 2: What is the uh visualization process for you? 00:25:06 Speaker 3: Like when you get in the octagon, the cage closes, I feel like I've seen stuff. You're heavy into the breath work, the nasal breathing and everything else. Is that something you lean on, like while you're walking in the ring to kind of keep your emotions at bay until the fight starts. 00:25:22 Speaker 6: All day, all fight day, I mean I try to, you know, kind of be sit with your breath, you know, throughout every day, but fight days is a very breath heavy following day. It just kind of keeps you keeps you in the moment, keeps you ground, that keeps those thoughts slowed down. So yeah, very you know, breathing being where I'm at, feeling my breath into my belly, you know. And if and I do think, which everyone does, it's you know, too sharp, too fast, too focus. Is this mantra over and over and over? Too sharp, too fast, too focused? Following my breath. So it's a it's a mixture between following my breath, saying that mantra, and uh, you know, just just going with the flow. 00:26:00 Speaker 2: Do we appreciate you? Man? Do you have anything else? Now? 00:26:01 Speaker 4: I'm solidude. This is aweso unless you. 00:26:03 Speaker 2: Got a word? Man? Oh yeah, yeah? How how's your spelling? 00:26:07 Speaker 5: Not good? 00:26:07 Speaker 2: Okay? 00:26:08 Speaker 5: Good? 00:26:08 Speaker 2: Okay good? 00:26:08 Speaker 1: Because because I'm I'm basically hooked on PHONEX at this spell. 00:26:13 Speaker 3: How do we do this though, JP, If it's one word, it's not like they can both spell it out loud that's at the same. 00:26:18 Speaker 6: Time, unless unless you just don't say if he's right or wrong? Well, I guess I don't know if that works. 00:26:25 Speaker 4: We both get two separate words. 00:26:29 Speaker 1: So we've been doing this thing at the shop where like, uh, I'm like horrendous at like my tweeting is always a spelling error. JP is always testing me on words and I cannot spell. So we're kind of starting this thing where we're just gonna I'm competing against our guests now in spelling bees. 00:26:45 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just trying to be better. 00:26:51 Speaker 1: Oh fuck, I love that you're nervous because I am. 00:26:56 Speaker 2: All right zero, So. 00:26:59 Speaker 3: Your word is is accommodate, accommodate, accommodate. 00:27:12 Speaker 2: H no, sir, let's get scruples on. 00:27:21 Speaker 5: Oh wait wait. 00:27:24 Speaker 1: Oh d a, these are ticks? 00:27:25 Speaker 6: Right? 00:27:26 Speaker 5: No? 00:27:29 Speaker 2: Right, oh like that? 00:27:33 Speaker 3: Ah, yes, you're missing uh you're missing an. 00:27:38 Speaker 2: M two season two MS. 00:27:41 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, so we both lost. 00:27:43 Speaker 2: Both lost. That's all right, I'll take another word. Let's go. 00:27:51 Speaker 1: I'm sure like on a Wednesday before you fight for your ballad, You're like, I'd rather be doing so much other ship right now? 00:27:57 Speaker 6: This is so gay my journal every day I read him back when I'm in fight camp. I look back on it. 00:28:02 Speaker 4: I'm like, what the said? 00:28:05 Speaker 6: I don't even know how you can read this ship. 00:28:08 Speaker 2: Let's go charcotery. 00:28:11 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I might just skip that one. 00:28:16 Speaker 2: All right, let's go. 00:28:18 Speaker 6: I got zero, I got nothing. 00:28:20 Speaker 2: Let's go and necessary. 00:28:22 Speaker 5: Oh fuck, I. 00:28:23 Speaker 6: Know I text that in a word. I'm like I just played for just. 00:28:26 Speaker 4: Every time I say fuck. 00:28:29 Speaker 2: Necessary, this is embarrassing. That is not correct. 00:28:36 Speaker 4: Correct. 00:28:36 Speaker 2: Let's go. 00:28:37 Speaker 3: I are you gonna take down the bandamweight champion of the world. 00:28:42 Speaker 2: How'd you spell it? No? 00:28:43 Speaker 4: No, you gotta go, you gotta go necessary. 00:28:46 Speaker 6: Cross it out. I just try to sound it out. 00:28:50 Speaker 2: Yeah, n E C. 00:28:52 Speaker 5: E s s hy damn. 00:28:56 Speaker 6: Undefeated is one. 00:28:57 Speaker 2: In twelve one in twelve. 00:29:00 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:29:07 Speaker 4: Starts offt Willie Cheeto. 00:29:09 Speaker 2: Man it is. 00:29:10 Speaker 3: We were just before the uh this episode talking about how we were sitting in the green room before before Shane show, but fast forwarding until today. You got a massive fight coming up Saturday. How how are the vibes? How you feeling right now? I feel like you got a different look every time we see you. Kind of got like the the hispanic Wolverine going on right now. 00:29:31 Speaker 5: Yeah, I like to change them and I really tried to done be the same every fight. And this is a huge, massive moment for my life, for my career. On Saturday night is gonna be my first word title, which I'm fucking excited. Man, I'm ready and I've been dreaming to this my whole life. And there's been ten years with the UFC, and I work my way up to the Wrangkins and I'm here now. So Saturday night, we're kicking some ass. 00:29:59 Speaker 3: You said, you've said before that winning being a world champion seems impossible once upon a time. What does it feel like saying that now? Thinking about that comment, now going into a title fight, your first one in your career. 00:30:13 Speaker 5: It feels like a dream. It feels like I used to just think about this moment my whole lefe and come on, keep winning, keep trying to figure it out, keep try to both. And now that I'm here, I'm I'm just extremely grateful with the opportunity because not everybody get to fight for a world title. There's so many fighters that fought through the years. I never get to break to the top ten, never get to break to the top five. I'd even better never go to fight for a world title. So I'm I'm just full of Joe, and I'm happy and I'm gonna make it happen. 00:30:45 Speaker 1: When when you sit here on Wednesday knowing that you're finally fighting for a title, and you're fighting at somebody that you've technically beaten. Where are your nerves are compared to like your usual fights, Because this is the biggest fight of your life right now. 00:30:57 Speaker 5: This is everything is more magnified. Like you go to bed just thinking about it, you wake up thinking about it, you wake up in the middle of the night thinking about it. And it's how you handle it. I mean, there's everything is just more it's bigger, it's more extreme. It's just this is the biggest moment of my life and I'm gonna make it. I'm gonna make it happen, and I'm gonna I'm just let it go by. I'm enjoying the moment. I'm happy with what I am today and on Saturday, I'm changing my life. 00:31:28 Speaker 1: How do you temper the expectation like like a like week one in the NFL, it's always like you get excited because you're out of camp and then you're so excited to go play. It's a different opponent. They have this phrase like you're gonna blow your load too early and then you're going hardest hell in practice on Wednesday. By the time of the Sunday, your legs are a little more tired. Like man, I kind of left lest some rounds. 00:31:46 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, ill feel you. This fight was announcing in November. So we plan camp really good. We start, we start slow, we start picking up the base and the Pretty much the last two months, I've been in top shape. I've been My running times were great, my sparings were great, and we just keep bringing new sporting partners every week, new sporting partners, new sporting partners. Like I had my time to do my distance running from since November, so I was running fifteen miles every Sunday. I was just prepping my diet god down in early which I have never had a problem in the past, but I just tried to figure that how it can be better. My hyperbaric, my seabag protocols. Everything was just dial in and it's gonna pay it off. It's gonna pay it off because I did everything leading to this point that I'm looking back and I'm cool with everything I did. 00:32:44 Speaker 3: How do you keep that that slow burn, as Taylor was referring to, with like now we're just a few days out, so you've had the time to train a camp and being the week of it's like I'm sitting here in my heart rate is sitting in ninety eight right now, Like my heart's beating, just thinking like, yo, this fight's coming and we're still a few days out, but like knowing that, you know, I've listened to one of your recent interviews to where you were talking about when you first came in, you're just trying to win a fight so you can pay another make it another month in the US before going back, And now you're sitting here and it's like, how do you resist the earth to you know, not get over hyped by come fight night. 00:33:18 Speaker 5: I feel like meditating. I'm visualizing a lot when I'm on my own, when I'm on my solo time, when no one's around me, I just that's my time to like cool down, kind of like put all my emotions togethers just close my eyes and just see the good, see really bad the scenarios to see how I can react to it. And then I like to what I really like to see is my feet on the campus when I entering the catch the first time and just be like that feeling makes me feel like very nervous, and then I go, Okay, it's okay, it's okay, You've been here before, just do it again. And I've feel like this week is it's just slow. Like we train, but we don't train too much. We hit the meat, we grapple a little bit, but it's just to keep the sweat going, the flood blowing, and like like you said, like don't burn the candle too quick. You just gotta like just relax because emotions, even if you don't train and you're doing everything properly, your emotions can burn you. So just just making sure I keep the same circle. Not new energies, no new souls, this far from from this close of fight. Just keeping the right people around me. That also helped me to stay nice and calm. 00:34:35 Speaker 1: When you're talking about your camp and protocols and how all that stuff works earlier, what. 00:34:41 Speaker 5: Is like your go to protocol? 00:34:42 Speaker 1: Is there something you do on a day to day basis regardless, there's no wavering from what I do well. 00:34:48 Speaker 5: I do a nice but almost every morning as soon as I wake up, and then there's all there's a few ways to do with mix it up with eyes and saua, depending on what you want, if you want recovery, if you wanna boost the station, if you want to like release stems or whatever. So I do all that I have that at home. I just bought a hyperbolic chamber for my home too, so I don't have to drive to get in the chamber, so I can spa and go straight to recovery and then the SIVA to get my card better promote more red blood cells. All that is like I do that year around with or without fight. There's protocols that are from art of camp. There's protocols when you are in come to like go to a top shape, and all that plays a big influence on my life, like help me to recovery. And for me, it's all about my brain. I want my brain to be the best when I retire. I wanna be able to take care of my family, to be able to see my kids grow. So and the way I fight, I fight pretty fucking hard, so I need to be I need to be good. So all that really helped me just to add another gear to my game. 00:35:58 Speaker 1: Hey, without everything not that too. Staying on top of that brain stuff. 00:36:02 Speaker 2: You take a lot of pride in that. 00:36:04 Speaker 5: I take a lot of pride in my hard work and everything I do leading to fights, and the way I eat. Everything I put in my body is like it's just everything comes from the from the earth. I don't do nothing, process nothing with chem because I don't really cheat and I don't even miss eating like ship. I'm just ice cream. 00:36:27 Speaker 1: Everybody misses ice cream like I, but believe it or not, I don't really. 00:36:31 Speaker 5: I do like once every two months I eat like like I give myself like one of those things like if I if I eat a bag of dry mango, I'm. 00:36:40 Speaker 4: Cool, solid like health Yeah, Blizzard bro like that's. 00:36:49 Speaker 5: Dry pen apple. I can I can eat that every day. 00:36:52 Speaker 4: I've never Yeah, he's just he's. 00:36:57 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:36:57 Speaker 5: Drive food is the ship? 00:36:59 Speaker 1: When you were eating like ship it what was like your go to? Like I got it this is I. 00:37:04 Speaker 5: Would breakfast McDonald's almost every day when I was in Mickey No, what was it was the muffins right, yeah, the that with fries nine in the morning in the morning when I get it right. 00:37:21 Speaker 4: And you don't miss it. 00:37:21 Speaker 5: But checking this out, I didn't know that wasn't healthy when I was when when I was growing up, I thought that was that. 00:37:28 Speaker 2: Was just yeah. I was like, I'm let's go on the body. 00:37:33 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go ten. You want to stop real quick, let's go with joint McDonald's And thinking that's normal. But now I'm like I passed by MacDonald's. I'm like, funck you when I heard my life. Yeah, dude, going. 00:37:46 Speaker 3: Back to where you talk about visualizing and stepping in the octagon, your feet hitting the canvas, the gate closing, how do you what. 00:37:53 Speaker 2: Is the what is the protocol of the preparation? 00:37:54 Speaker 3: There is a focus like focusing on breath work and not getting too high in the moment because clearly it's going to just the peak of every you know, every match you've ever been in. 00:38:04 Speaker 5: I feel like you just have to like one that when does God start fighting, you just have to use that fire to almost warm you up instead of just like feeling it here because on that moment we all feel weak, and that moment will feel like, oh I'm not ready, Oh I don't want to be here. But as you your mind playing tricks and you and then you go like, you know what, this is part of the deal, this part of the what happened before I fight? So and then when you start warming up, just like I personally just get mean, I just go sweep the sweep the fleet the was it switch? 00:38:39 Speaker 2: The switch there? 00:38:41 Speaker 5: You rather? I lost my English for a second and then I just go I'm mean, I'm red. I'm like, I don't care. I mean, I know I'm ready to do that. And that just comes like early, ten minutes before I do the walk, i just go pop and I'm cool. I'm like, right now, I don't give a fuck about nothing. I'm just I'm just going. 00:39:04 Speaker 1: How are you able to achieve that, the ability to flip the switch? Like, was that a thing that you had the minute you stepped in the octagon for the first time, the minute you found martial arts or was that a deal that over time and learning. 00:39:15 Speaker 5: I feel that was fighting on the streets since a very early age, Like I was the smallest guy in the room, the skeennest one, and I used to no one will pick on me, but I would be like a little fucking monkey's poking everybody. And I will get a slap sometimes and I will be like, ah, fuck you. And I used to learn how to fight early because I would start fights for no reason and I got my ass kids so many times, and I just kept coming. I kept coming, kept coming, kept coming, And probably that really helps. 00:39:48 Speaker 3: Do you even think about the first fight with with Sugar, knowing that it ended in the first round, the way it did well. 00:39:55 Speaker 5: I rewatched it, and the things I remember from being in there is just like there's one thing the world can see, the coaches or people on TV. It's just like you can. You can feel your opponents soul and energy when you're in there. And the thing I can say, he don't have a heart energy, He don't have a heart, so like you can see through him and he's a great athlete, that doesn't mean he cannot beat you. That's why people sometimes fall into like, oh, you're not that good, and boom they get punched. I'm not thinking like that, but I'm also feeling you and you're not a hard motherfucker. You're the one that will crumble if you have to. And that's something I know you're saying. 00:40:37 Speaker 1: His foundation is not as solid as he seems, not at all when you with his tactics as far as being on the microphone, how do you mentally? Does that phase you in any way, shape or form. 00:40:48 Speaker 5: I don't. I'm not a big reader of opinions or comments, and I'm not a guy that like to engage in social media. Like I'm not the guy that will be like, for example, let's see two weeks from now, you guys are hanging out with him, and I feel offended of that. Most guys that feel like that there are pussies because they get they get they get to they get too quick on a on the like, oh I thought we were cool, but you're hanging and they go on line and like, fuck those guys. I don't do that. I like, I just don't do that. And when someone is talking shit to me or like saying something about me, I'm just like, cool dude. But I guarantee you this. If we're in a clothes room and you took ship that close, I'm gonna I'm gonna fight you. I don't care who you are, what you do. But also, in the other hand, I've been cool to everybody. I'm not trying to start nothing with no one. But if you took shit and we're close enough, we're going. 00:41:43 Speaker 2: But if you so. 00:41:44 Speaker 1: Social media is one thing, but Sean himself, how when he's your opponent that you're gonna be going up against and he's he's saying some nasty things, how do you compartmentalize that when you're going in the octagon with him? 00:41:56 Speaker 5: I really ignore it all. I really don't. You will never see him engaging with him online. I never reply hit and there. I would throw a nice fucking body shirt. But I don't have time, Like I got cool things to do, bro, Like I got a lot of fun things around my life that I just don't have the time to engage with anybody. And then when it's five time, doesn't matter what you say, I want to kill your regardless if you were nice, if you were a bad guy, doesn't matter to me. 00:42:24 Speaker 3: Yeah, do you ever feel the noise, like the external stuff, like when you are the underdog or like with Sean winning the belt, it's gonna be the sugar air and everything else and you're the first title defense. Do you ever hear any of that noise or feel any of that? 00:42:39 Speaker 5: I try my best to say away from the nose, aways from the cloud, because all this is temporary. All these one day will be gone. There will be new guys, new fighters, new champions. So I do my best and enjoy the moment and making sure I invest my money right. The rest it will just pass by, like a few years from now will be nice and hour. 00:43:01 Speaker 1: It seems like you got your head on straight, like understanding that just because this is your time now, doesn't mean in ten fifteen years, like unless you make a big dan, you'll be essentially forgotten, like we all are in our sport. How do you like being present? Is that something you've always had the ability to possess or is that something you've learned with success and failures? 00:43:21 Speaker 5: A little bit of both. I was I wasn't the guy that was too attached to like, oh that's pretty for the club and that's pretty like to hung out with these guys. Like somehow, for some reason, the cool guys always called me out, he come join the group or come to this party, come to And I also grew up with other guys that were like willing to do anything to be part of that. And I'm like, that's probably the reason you will never be part of that. And to me, it's just I just think like this, I want to win because I feel I'm a winner, and I want to make a chill load of money because I want to invest it, and then after that I want to kick it. I I probably would do something like this, join you guys, but like I'm not the boys. I'm not too worried about like I mean, it's the word is fucking now with all the fame and weird TikTok and everything is illegal and fuck that. So I'm not I'm not really trying to be part of that group. I'm trying to be more in this group. 00:44:21 Speaker 3: Yeah, how's your how's your family feeling? When it becomes the weak of the fight. 00:44:28 Speaker 5: They're nervous, man, there, I can feel it, but usually it is what it is. You get into a fist fight, dude. You know, the family get nervous. But by now they're kind of experience with it. They know how to handle it. But I get it. It's still hard for them. 00:44:44 Speaker 2: I mean, it's for the belt. 00:44:46 Speaker 5: It's big, bro, it's big. And my kids are excited, My wife is excited, my my family from sometimes they don't really travel for a fight because it's expensive. This time, family, the whole fi. You should have a good crowd, is I believe if I will have a crazy crowd, dude, like just in immediate forty eight credentials that never happened in the past. So it's gonna be a big, a big day. It's gonna be a big day. 00:45:13 Speaker 2: How many kids you got? It? 00:45:14 Speaker 5: Had three, three boys, girls, boy in the middle of two girls and decide two girls. 00:45:19 Speaker 1: We got a girl dad on our hands. Folks, before having kids the mindset of the brain and everything, and then now, like, is there a different feeling going into the octagon. I know you flip the switch, but knowing that, like, hey, I got kids, that I worry about my head and making sure everything's all good, I never crossed your mind. 00:45:36 Speaker 5: I feel like having kids, what really what brought me to where I am today? Like I feel if I wouldn't have kids, I would probably be drinking beer right now and smoking cigarettes. But like, yeah, but like my kids really brought me. Sometimes they say the kid came with the bread underneath the arm. I feel they, especially my daughter, my first daughder, I feel when I had heard my whole life is I just put my head down and just work until today. I don't want left, I don't want right. I don't lose focus. It's just I just feel like it's hard to let down your kid. You don't want to be a loser. When you have kids, you gonna be a loser on your own and no one will say nothing. But I don't want my kids to have a sh did that or a loser that. So I believe. That's really my That is my main reason. That's that's my real reason why they do things. 00:46:28 Speaker 2: Man, We appreciate you. Do you have any other got one more? 00:46:33 Speaker 5: I love ye? Yeah? 00:46:38 Speaker 2: We actually we have this one as well if you want that, if you if you want. 00:46:40 Speaker 5: To, well that my song. I got upset. 00:46:44 Speaker 2: That's all right. 00:46:47 Speaker 5: Yeah, this is dope. Thank you guys, You're very welcome. 00:46:49 Speaker 3: The daughters are the daughters, I'm sure are ranked ahead of your son like he's got he's Yeah, it. 00:46:58 Speaker 4: Looks solid on you, b Yeah. 00:47:00 Speaker 1: With with the hair obviously, last time I saw you, you have the shaved head, clean cut. We keeping like this for the fight. 00:47:06 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go just like that. 00:47:08 Speaker 2: Bro. Really, I'm not gonna break it, not gonna. 00:47:10 Speaker 5: Do nothing you can. Yeah, I'm gonna go loose in there. 00:47:14 Speaker 1: Sometimes you got a guy with the hair kind of all over the place. It gives that like psychotic look that you kind of want. 00:47:19 Speaker 5: Yeah, I look crazy with my hair, his old weird going and all that. 00:47:25 Speaker 1: Yeah, hypothetical. Sean walks in here right now, How do you how are you operating? Just kind of keep yourself. 00:47:31 Speaker 5: I will have sent up just in case you will do what I will have stunned up case bringing Sean. 00:47:41 Speaker 1: You gotta make sure you can't slipping. 00:47:43 Speaker 5: You something something. You know what happened with Leonelle was and mysveield. Leonelle was just walk to misfield thinking that when I give it, give you to a hug. He went boom. 00:47:54 Speaker 1: That's not happening to you, dude. You're watching history making sure you don't repeat it. 00:47:59 Speaker 5: I mean, I don't like that type of history of my end. Yeah that's what if I have. 00:48:03 Speaker 4: Due Yeah, moving that thing around. 00:48:06 Speaker 5: Some put like coins on my socks on the street fights, and. 00:48:12 Speaker 2: Would that be your move? You got to get the coins in. 00:48:14 Speaker 5: The socks, like fifty cents if you if. 00:48:17 Speaker 3: You knew the next day you're about to get in the street fight, like you knew, like I'm going after this cat right here. 00:48:21 Speaker 5: I make sure I have I don't have big shoes, like like those barefoot shoes. Yeah, I will have something like that. I will make sure you have a short shortage, not. 00:48:32 Speaker 2: Tea any kind of weapon close by. 00:48:35 Speaker 5: I'm not a big weapon guy, but if I see balls, I might fucking throw it. 00:48:38 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:48:39 Speaker 1: I feel like if you're at a bar and someone's talking ship, you go to the bathroom real quick, take your sock off. 00:48:44 Speaker 5: Yeah, probably just suck you're right there. Yeah, like sometimes you gotta just go quick. Do you feel the runner? 00:48:55 Speaker 1: I know we're running at a time, But if you when you were fighting all the time as a kid, when at one point where you're like, oh, I. 00:49:01 Speaker 5: Could do this professionally, I didn't know. One of my my neighbor which is still my friend today, he was trying you and he was like a white belt with forest stripes. Back then, if you have forest stripes and a wie beal, you were already a fucking killer because you youtu was was really big. But also we're like twenty blue belts in the whole country, fifteen purple belts, no brown belts, and just one black belt. So back then, if you have a blue belt, dude, you were a weapon. And this guy went like, dude, stop getting in trouble. 00:49:29 Speaker 6: Dude. 00:49:30 Speaker 5: You've been in yel like three times already for no reason. Stop drinking a business. Stupid. Also, I grew up trying to act like I was part of the Jackas movie, so I we will film myself and stupid shit. I hope we could find those biders because I have some crazy footage to there, but whatever, I don't have that. My homemaie game is like, yo, dude, come with me. One day, it was a Thursday and it's like, I'm like, how much is the month for It's like, no, you do the first the first free class and see if you're like, say sixty bucks. I'm like that, can you give me sixty give me a check for sixty bucks? I get there, give you a check for the whole month. He was like, do you You probably won't come back anymore. I never stopped coming until today. I turned my whole life that When I started training there, slowly started hanging out with my friends. They were like, dude, what the fuck we have a huge party to and I was like, no, doe, I got your you tomorrow. They used to call me pussy gay everything. I was like, dude, this is cool because when I find you, I was like, oh my god, I can be something with this. And then I started watching UFC Strike. I was like, I'm going to fucking do something. And people used to laugh about me back in the day because I was a crazy domas. 00:50:38 Speaker 1: What was the first time he came to the States. 00:50:41 Speaker 5: First time I came as a kid with my dad when I didn't get in trouble when you're in school. So he gave me like as a present, he sent me to a cruise with my family, with the wealthy side of the family, Disney Cruise. Yeah, and I thought I was fucking out. I was the coolest man on earth. But I didn't speak in the English, so I was just like like speaking in Spanish to people were like, huh, but like that was my first time, but I don't. I don't really have many memories. I was like ten years old, so I don't really remember much. And then my actual first time was when I came for training. I left, uh, I was already married and I had a kid, and then us sent me to a Bukurkee to train for to like the tryouts before the Ultimate Fighter. And that was it. 00:51:27 Speaker 4: No, that's awesome. 00:51:28 Speaker 5: We appreciate you, man, Thank you guys. Yeah you guys. 00:51:30 Speaker 2: Good luck man, thank you, appreciate it for you, Thank you bro. 00:51:35 Speaker 5: That for the hard boy. Absolutely