Nintendo and The Pokemon Company are Suing Palworld Devs

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<v Speaker 1>this for September nineteenth, twenty twenty four. For the next
<v Speaker 1>hour or so, let me help you sort through the
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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Grub. Today, Nintendo and the Pokemon Company. Gotta sue
<v Speaker 1>them all. But first, please join me and welcoming today's
<v Speaker 1>co host of Game Mess Mornings. It's Janet Joe. Everybody,
<v Speaker 1>jan how are you doing?
<v Speaker 2>I continue to be doing terribly. I think I'm sick.
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to admit it. Right, But here we are, Grub,
<v Speaker 2>Here we are. I did go to the FANDOMSF office
<v Speaker 2>because we're moving. Hey, folks, surprise, we're moving. Don't worry,
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<v Speaker 2>for the longest time, and then I realized I don't
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<v Speaker 2>I didn't really have anything to move other than just
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<v Speaker 1>Of How long is is long that you were looking
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<v Speaker 3>Like a good five minutes? Okay, yeah, that's quite a
<v Speaker 3>bit of time.
<v Speaker 2>Jan It's because I saw, like, oh, there's Eric Tay
<v Speaker 2>there's Tam, there's Kurt, there's Lucy, John Luke, Richard Lee.
<v Speaker 3>I'd probably be sitting around over there.
<v Speaker 2>And then the thing is Michael Heim had a desk,
<v Speaker 2>and Michael Heim like is that ign Yeah?
<v Speaker 3>And Michael him had a desk and I did it.
<v Speaker 3>That's pretty fun, It's okay.
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<v Speaker 2>I was very tempted, very very tempted. And then I
<v Speaker 2>suddenly realized that you know that the powers that be
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you would be a good steward of it.
<v Speaker 1>I think it seems like you should go to a
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<v Speaker 3>I flew a jet and oh, yeah you did do that. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>could you could talk about that now? Yeah? I was.
<v Speaker 1>It was a serious vision jet and they didn't tell
<v Speaker 1>us about it. I think it was like kind of
<v Speaker 1>something came together last minute for them to over At Microsoft.
<v Speaker 1>I went there to Grant the Grand went there. I
<v Speaker 1>went to the Grand Canyon for a Microsoft Flight Simulator
<v Speaker 1>event and they're like, we're gonna fly you in a
<v Speaker 1>helicopter over the Grand Canyon, which is actually what what
<v Speaker 1>Vinnie ended up doing. Vinnie was out there, a couple
<v Speaker 1>other folks were out there. Charles Hart went on the
<v Speaker 1>helicopter threw up on himself. I'm sure they'll have that
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<v Speaker 1>but we're also gonna maybe have a jet and you
<v Speaker 1>want to put your name in and maybe you'll get
<v Speaker 1>selected to be on the jet. It's gonna be random.
<v Speaker 1>And I got selected and they're like, oh, and also
<v Speaker 1>once you're in there, you're gonna fly the jet. Like wait,
<v Speaker 1>what what's happening here? I don't know how to fly. Really,
<v Speaker 1>I played this video game the simulator, but that was
<v Speaker 1>it was very exciting.
<v Speaker 3>It was a good time.
<v Speaker 1>If you watch the video, people have noticed he looks
<v Speaker 1>locked in. I was very locked in. I was very like,
<v Speaker 1>I do not want to screw this up because that
<v Speaker 1>feels like death if I screw this up. So I
<v Speaker 1>don't want that to happen. But it was a good time.
<v Speaker 1>It's a fun video, so go check that out. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it was a very dad trip the Grand Canyon Microsoft
<v Speaker 1>Light simulator flying a jet.
<v Speaker 3>I fell in my element.
<v Speaker 2>Jan You were like you were the absolute definition of
<v Speaker 2>locked in and grub. Like. I was like, I watched
<v Speaker 2>the thing because you sent it to me early to
<v Speaker 2>post and then I was scrubbing through looking for a
<v Speaker 2>good face and like it was just nothing but.
<v Speaker 3>Good grub faces. Yes, because so focused.
<v Speaker 1>And like, like what it's very similar to how I
<v Speaker 1>was doing the F eighteen challenge in the video. And
<v Speaker 1>that's the first thing I did because it was a
<v Speaker 1>leaderboard and I'm like, well, I want to race on
<v Speaker 1>this leader board. Yeah, I got locked in for that,
<v Speaker 1>and then it turns out I had another level when
<v Speaker 1>it came to actually flying a real jet. That being
<v Speaker 1>very easy to fly though.
<v Speaker 2>It turns out grub if there may be an opportunity
<v Speaker 2>soon where you were in the Bay area, we should
<v Speaker 2>make the trek down to the Aviation Museum in San Carlos.
<v Speaker 2>It's very fun museum and they have a little virtual cockpit.
<v Speaker 2>It's older now and it replicates like an older plane,
<v Speaker 2>but still pretty accurate, and I think you do very
<v Speaker 2>well at it.
<v Speaker 1>I would enjoy that quite a bit. That'd be a
<v Speaker 1>good time. I am also now after playing quite a
<v Speaker 1>bit of Flight Simulator twenty twenty four, really looking forward
<v Speaker 1>to that game. So we'll talk more about it a
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<v Speaker 2>Everybody, have you ever gotten into flying like those DGI drones?
<v Speaker 3>I know I want.
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I always like find reasons to justify not
<v Speaker 1>spending the money on it, but I really should. So
<v Speaker 1>I've gotten a couple of the really cheap ones and
<v Speaker 1>they don't they don't like trim properly, so it's like
<v Speaker 1>I'll try to like get them to stay steady in
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<v Speaker 2>could remove some of the assisted supports and just go
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<v Speaker 3>I think you would thrive in that eye. I think
<v Speaker 3>you'd be so locked in.
<v Speaker 1>I think I want to. I would like to do
<v Speaker 1>the first person view flying and racing that some most
<v Speaker 1>people do. That would be all fun. That'd be a
<v Speaker 1>good time grub.
<v Speaker 2>I've been saying this to myself for the longest time.
<v Speaker 2>You would kill in like the World Drone racingly.
<v Speaker 1>I would love that, Yes, I would.
<v Speaker 3>I would.
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<v Speaker 1>they were talking about all the different new planes that
<v Speaker 1>got in the game, and there we have the ultra lights,
<v Speaker 1>which you don't need a pilot pilot's license for in
<v Speaker 1>real life, and I'm like, huh, maybe I should get
<v Speaker 1>an ultra light little plane that could I could just
<v Speaker 1>take off on my.
<v Speaker 3>Street just fly away. So it's bad. It's bad. I
<v Speaker 3>gotta not do those things.
<v Speaker 2>But I want to do what we do. Here's what
<v Speaker 2>we do. I've been thinking about picking up a dgi
<v Speaker 2>Osmo mobile, like the little little Jimmy Jam gimbal guy.
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<v Speaker 2>the bridge and be like, hey, we got these two idiots.
<v Speaker 3>One likes cameras, one likes flying stuff. Please.
<v Speaker 1>I did send Dan to go he wanted to get
<v Speaker 1>a Roger ally X and my head just go ask
<v Speaker 1>go ask It's aces right, go ask isis for one,
<v Speaker 1>and uh they send him one.
<v Speaker 3>And they accidentally send him a.
<v Speaker 1>Laptop as well, Like oh no, Dan, luck, it just happens.
<v Speaker 1>It just falls into his lap.
<v Speaker 3>It's very good. So you're right, we got to get
<v Speaker 3>on that train exactly.
<v Speaker 2>I think sometimes I think of Dan Reikert as Jenny
<v Speaker 2>Slate's character from Parks and rec Uh huh.
<v Speaker 3>She just holds her hand out and goes money.
<v Speaker 1>Please, money please, yep, And he's he's a little bit
<v Speaker 1>like slightly more subtle, but not that much and it works.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but he's very charming about it is what it is. Absolutely,
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<v Speaker 1>the morning mess with Nintendo and the Pokemon Company are
<v Speaker 1>suing pow World's developer, Pocket Pair. This is from Kenneth
<v Speaker 1>Shepard at Kotaku. Remember back in January when the Pokemon
<v Speaker 1>Companies said it planned to investigate monster taming game pow
<v Speaker 1>World for intellectual property rights infringement. Well, it looks like
<v Speaker 1>Pikachuan Friends are officially filing a lawsuit against the game's developer.
<v Speaker 1>On September eighteenth, the company and Nintendo released a joint
<v Speaker 1>statement on the publisher's website announcing the lawsuit, saying it
<v Speaker 1>is seeking compensation for damages against Power World developer Pocket
<v Speaker 1>Pair on the grounds of patent infringement. Shortly after its
<v Speaker 1>January twenty twenty four launch, Power World skyrocketed in popularity,
<v Speaker 1>while also raising eyebrows for its monster designs, which seemed
<v Speaker 1>nearly identical to those in Pokemon. Nintendo and Pokemon's full
<v Speaker 1>statement reads as follows, it's going to re recapping most
<v Speaker 1>of that stuff. They don't give a lot of details
<v Speaker 1>in what they posted publicly.
<v Speaker 3>They just say.
<v Speaker 1>Patent infringement, and that's where I was like, I'm pretty
<v Speaker 1>surprised to see that, because you don't get a lot
<v Speaker 1>of patent infringement lawsuits between different video game companies, and
<v Speaker 1>for good reason, mostly because it's not gonna it's not
<v Speaker 1>good for the industry when these companies starts suing each
<v Speaker 1>other over patenting game mechanics. Now, we don't know what
<v Speaker 1>mechanics Nintendo and the Pokemon company are talking about yet,
<v Speaker 1>there has been some people looking into it. I think
<v Speaker 1>Steven Totilo's have found at least one patent that I
<v Speaker 1>think Nintendo filed.
<v Speaker 3>In like twenty sixteen.
<v Speaker 1>Nintendo in the Pokemon company filed around twenty sixteen for
<v Speaker 1>the like throwing a poke ball in a three D space,
<v Speaker 1>something along those lines, and that was probably for Pokemon
<v Speaker 1>Go and then the games following that. So you would
<v Speaker 1>be like, well, throwing a ball in a game and
<v Speaker 1>to catch monsters. Wouldn't that go back to the nineteen
<v Speaker 1>nineties and patents, as we all know, only last for
<v Speaker 1>twenty years and then they're gone, they don't matter anymore,
<v Speaker 1>so that would be up by now. Well, no, they're
<v Speaker 1>talking about in a three D space, so maybe it
<v Speaker 1>just goes back to twenty sixteen, so would still be
<v Speaker 1>viable either way. I want to make it clear this
<v Speaker 1>is patent trolling at a certain point, because what they're
<v Speaker 1>really mad about is that the characters look similar, but
<v Speaker 1>maybe not so similar that it's actionable.
<v Speaker 3>Clearly clearly they.
<v Speaker 1>Don't feel that way, or else they would be suing
<v Speaker 1>them for copyright infringement, something that has a much more
<v Speaker 1>stronger standing legally, also something that is more respectable to
<v Speaker 1>a certain degree. There's a lot of copyright trolling in
<v Speaker 1>like music and stuff like that, but patent trolling is
<v Speaker 1>from a game mechanics. Like a lot of these companies
<v Speaker 1>have these patents and they don't sue each other because
<v Speaker 1>they know that like that kind of might start a
<v Speaker 1>war of going back and forth of various companies suing
<v Speaker 1>each other and Nintendo not respecting that is a bad
<v Speaker 1>look and kind of a joke in my opinion. I
<v Speaker 1>don't know, how do you feel about all this?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it feels really scummy.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we've had like a long history of games
<v Speaker 2>now grub where there are like pocket monsters similar enough
<v Speaker 2>to Pokemon, like not just like going back as far
<v Speaker 2>as like digit youm on, but like.
<v Speaker 3>Even the last couple years.
<v Speaker 2>Besides Power World, we have games like Tem Tem Cassette Beasts,
<v Speaker 2>a whole slew of other Pokemon like games that have
<v Speaker 2>similar pocket monsters that you can throw stuff and capture.
<v Speaker 2>And I think it's just because Power World kind of
<v Speaker 2>blew up and has similar enough designs to Pokemon that
<v Speaker 2>they've been biding their time and waiting for some lever
<v Speaker 2>to pull that feels like inappropriate lever to pole to
<v Speaker 2>try and take the whole ship down.
<v Speaker 3>It feels very scummy. You know.
<v Speaker 2>I love Pokemon, as we all know, they should contact
<v Speaker 2>me if they want a color commentator. But that being said,
<v Speaker 2>like I don't really support this because you're right, grub
<v Speaker 2>this this is like the this is the loose Jenga
<v Speaker 2>piece that's going to make the whole tower crumble, because
<v Speaker 2>then as soon as this goes down, who knows how,
<v Speaker 2>like a different company may wind up pursuing the Pokemon company.
<v Speaker 1>Shadier companies, right, yeah, like that are like, you know,
<v Speaker 1>bought some patents from some indie developer and then started
<v Speaker 1>like trolling another company on that kind of stuff. It's
<v Speaker 1>the kind of thing that does happen in a lot
<v Speaker 1>of other spaces. And video games have been built on
<v Speaker 1>copying mechanics from one another from the very beginning. Always say,
<v Speaker 1>like literally when it became video games plural, it was
<v Speaker 1>the second game was just a copy of the first game.
<v Speaker 1>It was just you know, the uh space War, you
<v Speaker 1>know over at Stanford, and then it became our the
<v Speaker 1>arcade game that copied that or the exact lineage. I'm
<v Speaker 1>getting the names wrong, but yeah, yeah, it was one
<v Speaker 1>was copying the other and then they just put it
<v Speaker 1>in arcades. And that's We've had several waves of here's
<v Speaker 1>pac Man. Here's all the pac Man clones. Here's Space Invaders.
<v Speaker 1>Here's all the Space Invader clones. Here is Arcanoid, Yeah, Arcanoid. Yes,
<v Speaker 1>here's the Doom here's the Doom clones. Here's here's the
<v Speaker 1>souls likes. The industry is better off when everyone feels
<v Speaker 1>like they can use all the mechanics they've seen in
<v Speaker 1>other games. I think you, like someone's mentioned for board games,
<v Speaker 1>there's been a case that has established that you actually
<v Speaker 1>can't patent mechanics in board games somehow that you know,
<v Speaker 1>maybe I'm not an expert, maybe that's not exactly true,
<v Speaker 1>but that's what someone mentioned to me, and it's like, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's clearly the way it should work. If
<v Speaker 1>you have a game where you throw a ball at
<v Speaker 1>a monster, you should not have twenty years of protection
<v Speaker 1>from competition. What you should have is reasons to make
<v Speaker 1>your throwing balls at monsters better than the other games.
<v Speaker 1>That would be better for everybody, including you, but it
<v Speaker 1>would be better for the people who buy and play games,
<v Speaker 1>which is actually who we should be trying to protect
<v Speaker 1>in this situation, because you're a giant, multi billion dollar
<v Speaker 1>conglomerate that has no real risk here if people also
<v Speaker 1>happen to like Power World, and you know, just fundamentally
<v Speaker 1>what this is they see the characters in Power World
<v Speaker 1>looking similar enough, which I hey, I agree, they look
<v Speaker 1>really similar all the way, and if you want to
<v Speaker 1>do something about that, like directly, go ahead, But I
<v Speaker 1>mean even that's a bit silly. But they see that
<v Speaker 1>they don't feel that they can get a copyright in
<v Speaker 1>a lawsuit across the finish line, or to be enough
<v Speaker 1>of a threat to a successfully scare Power World's developer,
<v Speaker 1>Pocket Pair into into settling. So they're like, we're gonna
<v Speaker 1>go with the patent case as a threat for this
<v Speaker 1>other issue that we really have, and that sort of
<v Speaker 1>punishment that this punitive style of litigation is silly. It
<v Speaker 1>is a distraction, and it could cause further problems in
<v Speaker 1>the industry.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, not just for like the advancement of like pocket
<v Speaker 2>Monster advancement. But I start to worry Grub after you
<v Speaker 2>brought it up of like maybe there's another shadier company
<v Speaker 2>that has copy wrote like a different type of mechanic,
<v Speaker 2>perhaps like trading of Pokemon, like they found they swooped
<v Speaker 2>that up from an indie studio or even other aspects
<v Speaker 2>of Pokemon's repertoire of IP and stuff like, hey, we
<v Speaker 2>actually U bought this game fifteen years ago. That is
<v Speaker 2>a sleep monitoring app that has like a little little
<v Speaker 2>dudes in it, Pokemon Sleep blowing up. We will Now
<v Speaker 2>you got to stop that, Pokemon.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think there probably is a pharmaceutical company
<v Speaker 1>that has a patent on game of fine health related
<v Speaker 1>like goals in an app, and it's like, well, that
<v Speaker 1>would be may potentially be a broad enough patent to
<v Speaker 1>come after Pokemon Sleep exactly, And it's uh, Nintendo does
<v Speaker 1>like in the long run, doesn't want this because they
<v Speaker 1>would be the biggest target for these sorts of things.
<v Speaker 1>They have a lot of money, yeah, and they have
<v Speaker 1>a lot of different kinds of games, and so yeah,
<v Speaker 1>this just comes back to my fundamental disagreement with the
<v Speaker 1>idea of patenting game mechanics. Game mechanics should be everyone
<v Speaker 1>should feel comfortable to go see a mechanic and be like,
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to put that in my game and I'm
<v Speaker 1>gonna try to make it better, and if I don't, well,
<v Speaker 1>then the game that I'm copying from that does it
<v Speaker 1>better is still going to be just fine. Uh, and Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>that to me sounds like a much healthier space.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>This this doesn't solve like Pokemon's actual problems with like
<v Speaker 2>the designs being pretty much not one for one but
<v Speaker 2>like one for half. And I the thing that I
<v Speaker 2>find hilarious is that this is the Pokemon's Pokemon Company's
<v Speaker 2>way of choosing to not continue to innovate and like, no,
<v Speaker 2>we just want to keep doing this business as per usual,
<v Speaker 2>where like we don't want to have to think about
<v Speaker 2>going multi console, we don't want to have to think
<v Speaker 2>about maybe branching out to PS five or like phones
<v Speaker 2>even We're gonna stay put in what has been working
<v Speaker 2>for us because it has proven to work for us.
<v Speaker 2>The Power World, y'all got to sell down. We're gonna
<v Speaker 2>take you down. It doesn't feel it makes my tummy
<v Speaker 2>hurt grow.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, yes, Sam, you know. And Nintendo going all the
<v Speaker 1>way back. It's like Zelda, the original Zelda for the
<v Speaker 1>Nintendo entertain System. You can compare that to Rare's Saberwolf
<v Speaker 1>and be like, hey, this game looks a lot like
<v Speaker 1>what Rare was doing, a company you were working pretty
<v Speaker 1>closely with at the time. Did you just copy all
<v Speaker 1>those ideas well, I for one, think it's awesome you
<v Speaker 1>copy those ideas, but your behavior suggests that you think
<v Speaker 1>that is something that should get you sued. And I
<v Speaker 1>don't like when companies do this talking out both side
<v Speaker 1>of their mouths. Thing I want to see you kind
<v Speaker 1>of have some consistency here and recognizing that your what
<v Speaker 1>your lawyer's behavior could do is have ramifications that could
<v Speaker 1>hurt you, for one, but have a detrimental effect on
<v Speaker 1>the entire industry.
<v Speaker 3>It is a bad idea.
<v Speaker 1>We don't and we kind of don't need people being
<v Speaker 1>afraid of of copying games right now. It's just it's
<v Speaker 1>I know, there's like sort of a a handshake friendly agreement,
<v Speaker 1>like don't one for one copy a game, especially an
<v Speaker 1>indie game, And that's like the same sort of thing
<v Speaker 1>we have in copying jokes in the comedian space, where
<v Speaker 1>it's like, hey, if you like, it's not illegal to
<v Speaker 1>steal a joke from somebody, but you know you are
<v Speaker 1>going to get shunned. And I think that's a pretty
<v Speaker 1>decent system, all things considered, and I would I think
<v Speaker 1>that should have applied to like when an indie studio
<v Speaker 1>puts out a game, a bigger company shouldn't come along
<v Speaker 1>and make the same exact game and put a huge
<v Speaker 1>budget behind it, obviously, and maybe there should be some
<v Speaker 1>recourse there. I don't know what that would look like,
<v Speaker 1>but like having a patent on game mechanics doesn't seem
<v Speaker 1>like the solution.
<v Speaker 2>It also feels so weird because I feel like Power
<v Speaker 2>World just wound up being like a small blip on
<v Speaker 2>like the Pokemon radar, and all.
<v Speaker 1>Things considered, it wasn't that big of.
<v Speaker 2>A deal, right, And it's not like this is going
<v Speaker 2>to hamper Pokemon's Pokemon moving forward, Like I've already stopped
<v Speaker 2>thinking about Power World other than when it like gets
<v Speaker 2>brought up in the news that I would assume that
<v Speaker 2>Pokemon would calm down from the initial comparisons and maybe
<v Speaker 2>outrage about it and just chill out. Because how like
<v Speaker 2>two three years down the line, when the next generation
<v Speaker 2>of Pokemon gets released, or like another remaster of an
<v Speaker 2>older game, who is going to be thinking of Power
<v Speaker 2>World or bring up Power World into that consideration, if
<v Speaker 2>not comparing the new Pokemon games to the older Pokemon games. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>and I don't want to saying give Pikachu a gun,
<v Speaker 2>no absolutely, Yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe I am saying that
<v Speaker 2>my diary at night, But I I just wonder, like
<v Speaker 2>I always think that most of the time these sorts
<v Speaker 2>of things happen because a company like Nintendo, a company
<v Speaker 2>especially like Nintendo and the Pokemon Company have massive departments
<v Speaker 2>filled with lawyers, like you know, dozens of lawyers, if
<v Speaker 2>not more than that, and they are on the clock.
<v Speaker 1>And they need to get work done and they need
<v Speaker 1>to come up with their own work sometime, and sometimes
<v Speaker 1>that leads them into situations where it's like, ah, you
<v Speaker 1>know that site's been selling or not something, been distributing
<v Speaker 1>rams for twenty years. We finally got around to it.
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna send them a season to system. We're gonna
<v Speaker 1>be ready to assume if we need to, and that's
<v Speaker 1>just what we're gonna do to And I this is
<v Speaker 1>a case where it's like, I feel like the lawyers
<v Speaker 1>would actually be pretty well aware of the other, like
<v Speaker 1>the other side of like with the other shoe drops here,
<v Speaker 1>and what that could mean for Nintendo in the Pokemon
<v Speaker 1>Company if patent lawsuits become more common, so I think
<v Speaker 1>I would imagine they would probably warn Nintendo in the
<v Speaker 1>Pokemon Company against maybe doing something like this. Maybe I'm wrong.
<v Speaker 3>I could very well be wrong.
<v Speaker 1>There, but I bet this does feel like this is
<v Speaker 1>Nintendo and Pokemon company leadership going. We can't actually let
<v Speaker 1>this one get away with this. It feels like crossing
<v Speaker 1>the line. So lawyers come up with some reason to
<v Speaker 1>sue them, and here.
<v Speaker 3>We are.
<v Speaker 1>The powerld dev Though Pocket Pair did respond, Power Rold
<v Speaker 1>Developers responded to Nintendo and the Pokemon Company lawsuit. This
<v Speaker 1>is from mind Nintendo News. News emerged last night that
<v Speaker 1>Nintendo and the Pokemon Company have filed a lawsuit against
<v Speaker 1>Powerrold developer Pocket Pair, claiming that the company had infringed
<v Speaker 1>on its patents. Today, the small end companies said they
<v Speaker 1>are beginning appropriate legal proceedings and say that at this
<v Speaker 1>moment in time, they are unaware of the specific patents
<v Speaker 1>we are accused of infringing upon, which is strange. So
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if, like when Nintendo like made this announcement,
<v Speaker 1>if that's like we are getting ready to file these
<v Speaker 1>infringement case suits or if they actually had already done it,
<v Speaker 1>because you would figure that by now Pocket Bear would
<v Speaker 1>have that stuff in front of them. Yesterday a lawsuit
<v Speaker 1>was filed against our company for patent a Frenchman. We
<v Speaker 1>have received a notice of the lawsuit and will begin
<v Speaker 1>the appropriate legal proceedings. Blah blah blah.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean what choice do they have? But I
<v Speaker 3>don't know. I mean I think that this probably.
<v Speaker 1>Doesn't actually go all the way all the way to court,
<v Speaker 1>and Nintendo probably will just want them to settle and
<v Speaker 1>kind of like put on this show of like this
<v Speaker 1>is what happens when you come for Pokemon.
<v Speaker 3>Ye.
<v Speaker 2>God, I hate the whole deal of, you know, threatening
<v Speaker 2>legal action to make an example out of a company,
<v Speaker 2>because then, like grub, there's so many Pokemon clones out
<v Speaker 2>there that have like skated by and like had decent
<v Speaker 2>enough popularity or a decent enough audience that, now, are
<v Speaker 2>you gonna scare the advancement of future indie companies? If
<v Speaker 2>not other Triple A companies? What about like monster Hunter?
<v Speaker 2>Like do they go after a monster Hunter because like
<v Speaker 2>you can throw a.
<v Speaker 1>Net like those like yeah, but it's like, yeah, she
<v Speaker 1>don't got my tensas like then some of that stuff
<v Speaker 1>pre date Pokemon. Well yeah, but what if they had
<v Speaker 1>something that was just slightly more ball like and they
<v Speaker 1>threw that, Now, are you gonna sit No, they're probably not.
<v Speaker 1>They're like, but it just begins to feel strange that
<v Speaker 1>like you're picking and choosing your cases here.
<v Speaker 3>Grub, Are they gonna go after robopon next?
<v Speaker 1>You can't touch my robopon the metabots medabots red and blue.
<v Speaker 3>Come on? It wasn't come on, Grub, it was Rocusho
<v Speaker 3>and meta ba version. Thank you.
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you always got my back on my metabots lore. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>we'll see. I think that pocket pair is uh probably
<v Speaker 1>going to realize here pretty soon. It's like we flew
<v Speaker 1>too close to the sun, and you know, for for
<v Speaker 1>you know their responsibility and all this is you made
<v Speaker 1>characters look a lot like Pokemon characters. What do you expect?
<v Speaker 1>And I fully like understand that argument. I just for me,
<v Speaker 1>it's like, well, my problem with that is like, oh, okay,
<v Speaker 1>well that happens all the time in games, and that stinks.
<v Speaker 1>I hate when that happens to people. You feel like
<v Speaker 1>your work was copied. Clearly that's not great. But I
<v Speaker 1>bet Pokemon is going to be fine. Yeah, and then
<v Speaker 1>Nintendo's like, well, we're going to do a patent lawsuit
<v Speaker 1>and that's like, oh, that actually could have ramifications in
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the industry. So one is actually, in
<v Speaker 1>my opinion, worse than the other. Uh, because like one
<v Speaker 1>thing's kind of common scummy behavior and Nintendo's is kind
<v Speaker 1>of could be detrimental to the entire industry.
<v Speaker 3>So but still, what did Pocket Pair expect? Right?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I your fly too close to the side. I
<v Speaker 2>think they should, you know, for the future of the company,
<v Speaker 2>whatever they plan on doing with Uh, if they continue
<v Speaker 2>to want to make more stuff for Power World or
<v Speaker 2>a different project, maybe don't make cute cute sea wootsy
<v Speaker 2>uh monsters.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean make your make your your sheep look different, right,
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, it's it's it's clear that they
<v Speaker 1>just looked at the damn woo wool loose what are
<v Speaker 1>they called wu Loose, and they're like, we're going to
<v Speaker 1>have our own own one of those, and people like, well,
<v Speaker 1>sheep exists in the real world.
<v Speaker 3>Come on, they were copying.
<v Speaker 1>The wula, they just were, uh, and for their own sake, Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>you you probably want to steer clear of getting that
<v Speaker 1>close to to the Nintendo Sun specifically, because they do
<v Speaker 1>just have an army of lawyers and you're going to
<v Speaker 1>end up a situation like this, it's as for as
<v Speaker 1>much as it's Nintendo bowling the industry. Uh yeah, and
<v Speaker 1>that's not going to change.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I it's I I've started to look at Nintendo
<v Speaker 2>very fondly, uh, with with all the development for like
<v Speaker 2>the PS five Pro and however the Xbox is doing,
<v Speaker 2>and then I remember that they can occasionally be a
<v Speaker 2>big bully like this.
<v Speaker 3>Yep.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, and just says you don't have to defend Nintendo.
<v Speaker 1>I'm just explaining how what's happening.
<v Speaker 3>That's all. Just explaining what's happening.
<v Speaker 1>It's not really defending because again, I don't feel like
<v Speaker 1>we've kind of trying to crucify Nintendo here a little
<v Speaker 1>bit for their behavior because I think it deserves it.
<v Speaker 3>But what I Pocket Pair expect.
<v Speaker 1>I still believe that's true.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>At the same time, Pocket Pair, maybe don't give something
<v Speaker 2>that looks like a Pikachu a gun.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean that that is gonna
<v Speaker 1>be the kind of thing that sets off Nintendo.
<v Speaker 2>Uh.
<v Speaker 1>And if you want to avoid this situation, you should
<v Speaker 1>avoid that. But if you think you're going to, like,
<v Speaker 1>if you want to still do it, you have every
<v Speaker 1>I think you have every right to do it because
<v Speaker 1>at a certain point, I do think it's a bit
<v Speaker 1>of a parody and fair use in some cases because yeah,
<v Speaker 1>legally distinct. It's kind of how describing most of the
<v Speaker 1>characters in Power World. I think Nintendo would probably do
<v Speaker 1>that too, which why they aren't suing them for copyright.
<v Speaker 3>They're suing them for the part. Okay, hear me out,
<v Speaker 3>grub hear me out.
<v Speaker 2>I do want Nintendo to to whoever the fuck owns
<v Speaker 2>the IP to Ghostbusters, though, all right, I cannot stand
<v Speaker 2>anymore Ghostbusters movies.
<v Speaker 3>Did you watch Frozen Empire?
<v Speaker 2>Terrible man got just killed a dude in a vape
<v Speaker 2>shop for no reason.
<v Speaker 1>Well, we gotta leave the dudes some vape shops alone.
<v Speaker 1>Come on, Hollywood, what are you doing?
<v Speaker 2>You know they throw like the little ghost trap that's
<v Speaker 2>like a rectangle, it's close enough to a circle.
<v Speaker 1>Did you give it?
<v Speaker 3>And they're capturing a ghost? Do you think a four out.
<v Speaker 1>Of a ten is a fair score for Ghostbusters Frozen Empire?
<v Speaker 3>I would go, yeah, four out of ten. I was
<v Speaker 3>gonna three and a half. This is not an attack
<v Speaker 3>on Greg Miller, it should be. This is an attack
<v Speaker 3>on Paul Rudd's legacy. Brud, what are you doing, buddy?
<v Speaker 1>He's Rudder list over there. I'm sorry, I'd like to
<v Speaker 1>apologize for my my joke over here.
<v Speaker 3>All right.
<v Speaker 1>PlayStation announces thirtieth anniversary collection including gray Place Station five
<v Speaker 1>and PlayStation five pros. From Chris calling to VGC, who
<v Speaker 1>had just started writing it when I put it in here.
<v Speaker 1>So there's no details here really, It says Sony has
<v Speaker 1>announced the PlayStation thirtieth anniversary collection of consoles, including a
<v Speaker 1>great PS five Digital ANDPS five Pro. I do have
<v Speaker 1>the video over here, though, so I'll get that up
<v Speaker 1>for everybody. Let's just take a look here.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, grub, I don't understand how these big companies just
<v Speaker 2>like step on rakes all the time.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>If this was just the PS five Pro, uh huh,
<v Speaker 2>no one, I there still would have been outrage over
<v Speaker 2>the seven hundred dollars price tag.
<v Speaker 3>Look at this.
<v Speaker 1>This shit is so fucking sexy. And I know I'm
<v Speaker 1>describing Sumer electronics as sexy as kind of embarrassing and cringe.
<v Speaker 1>I can't help it. I think this thing looks hot
<v Speaker 1>as hell.
<v Speaker 3>Is this Kristen? Oh? Is this Kristin?
<v Speaker 1>Okay?
<v Speaker 3>Know who Christen is seen this yet? Did her voice
<v Speaker 3>come through the thing for like half a second? Did
<v Speaker 3>she say Hi, I'm Kristen or something?
<v Speaker 2>And I looked at the video feed and then I
<v Speaker 2>saw the lower thirds of the man saying Hi, Kristen.
<v Speaker 1>I was putting in an opera or the gamer browser here,
<v Speaker 1>because that's where I put all of this stuff for
<v Speaker 1>the news assets, and that's where the music plays before
<v Speaker 1>the show, and I put this video up in there
<v Speaker 1>and it started to auto play before I muted it.
<v Speaker 1>So people were hearing the music and this video, and
<v Speaker 1>she must have said something like hello, I'm Kristen whatever,
<v Speaker 1>and so chat heard that, and then that's why before
<v Speaker 1>the show started, audio listeners and people watching later people
<v Speaker 1>were harassing Jan about Kristin, like we want Kristen back
<v Speaker 1>or something.
<v Speaker 3>This is what they were saying to you. Oh God, well,
<v Speaker 3>I'm glad that Kristen is okay.
<v Speaker 1>Kristen seems like she's doing great. This PlayStation five and
<v Speaker 1>PlayStation five pro so it is the gray of the boo.
<v Speaker 1>It's got the PlayStation thirtieth anniversary like logo in the
<v Speaker 1>crack of the PlayStation five, the PlayStation five crack it's
<v Speaker 1>got the original colorful PlayStation logo. This is this is
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know how limited is this going
<v Speaker 1>to be. I know there was that limited one for
<v Speaker 1>the PS four A little man and then at another
<v Speaker 1>PlayStation thirtyth anniversary logo on the bottom corner with like
<v Speaker 1>a thirty between the sacred symbols.
<v Speaker 3>That's some good stuff.
<v Speaker 1>I am finding myself being much more able of arguing
<v Speaker 1>why I should spend seven hundred dollars on a PS
<v Speaker 1>five pro now seeing this thing, I hope it's not
<v Speaker 1>too Limitedble. This should just kind of be like you said,
<v Speaker 1>get rid of the standard one.
<v Speaker 3>Just sell this. Yeah, Grub, I sell this. Why is
<v Speaker 3>this not just the PlayStation?
<v Speaker 2>God that that dual sense looks so good, Grub, it
<v Speaker 2>looks incredible. I thought the astrobot dual sense controller looks
<v Speaker 2>kind of dinky, but like who knew adding some into
<v Speaker 2>this guy would like.
<v Speaker 1>Oh, we're so back. It's it's really really good. And
<v Speaker 1>see I'll get up the VGC story. Now let's see here.
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna refresh. H what's it called? Grub.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they're going to show this in
<v Speaker 2>the video, but okay, here the USB C cord.
<v Speaker 3>Whoa, it's wait, whoa is it? Oh my god?
<v Speaker 1>Is it a chord with like.
<v Speaker 3>The controller plug thing on it? Okay, let's try to
<v Speaker 3>describe this.
<v Speaker 1>So you know how you would plug a PlayStation, a
<v Speaker 1>dual shock or the original PlayStation controller into your PlayStation one,
<v Speaker 1>and it had that gray sort of uh uh you
<v Speaker 1>know where the plate would handle, Yeah, the handle where
<v Speaker 1>the port would come out of. He put a tiny
<v Speaker 1>USBC part on the end of one of those. So
<v Speaker 1>when you plug it in your PS five, it looks
<v Speaker 1>like you're plugging in a PlayStation one controller.
<v Speaker 3>Oh god. And the PS portal looks cooled down too.
<v Speaker 1>This portal looks awesome. This is okay again, it's it's
<v Speaker 1>it's the gray of the PlayStation one, for the for
<v Speaker 1>the texture of the it is. Once again, this is
<v Speaker 1>I think the standard of the way it is on
<v Speaker 1>the PlayStation five in general. But it is all the
<v Speaker 1>square circle, triangle and X button and then it has
<v Speaker 1>the colorful PlayStation logo everything else. It's the same as
<v Speaker 1>like the PS five, the PS five pro, the PlayStation portal,
<v Speaker 1>but like god, it changes everything. It's like the toothpick
<v Speaker 1>on the toothpick meeting where it's like with a toothpick.
<v Speaker 1>This is I look cool now that they put a
<v Speaker 1>toothpick on the PlayStation five Pro.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they gave it. They gave it a cigarette in
<v Speaker 3>its mouth.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, cigarette and wow from VGC now. The collection will
<v Speaker 1>include special thirtieth anniversary editions of the PlayStation five Pro
<v Speaker 1>and the PlayStation five Digital Edition. The thirtieth Anniversary PS
<v Speaker 1>five Digital Edition will include a console colored like the
<v Speaker 1>original PlayStation, along with a matching dual Sense, a console
<v Speaker 1>cover for the disc drive, which is still sold separately,
<v Speaker 1>a vertical stand, a poster one of thirty possible designs,
<v Speaker 1>an original PlayStation style cable connector housing. So the housing,
<v Speaker 1>justay is something you can like clamp on, four PlayStation shapes,
<v Speaker 1>cable ties, a sticker, and a paper clip. The thirtieth
<v Speaker 1>Anniversary PlayStation five Pro will include the same accessories, but
<v Speaker 1>the dual Sense is replaced with a dual Sense edge. Oh,
<v Speaker 1>this thing's going to be one thousand dollars, and a
<v Speaker 1>dual Sense charging station. Sony says each thirtieth anniversary PS
<v Speaker 1>five Pro will have a number on it, and the
<v Speaker 1>console will be limited to twelve three hundred units. Globally.
<v Speaker 3>No the thirty then, why.
<v Speaker 1>What is wrong with you?
<v Speaker 3>Just sell this perpetually? Why why do you hate me?
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to I don't need a number on
<v Speaker 1>my console. I just wanted to look like a PlayStation one.
<v Speaker 2>Please forget the VGC story at this point. Go in
<v Speaker 2>the GB chat and look what Sean just linked to you.
<v Speaker 2>As far as the box that they're putting this in.
<v Speaker 1>All right, hang on here see maybe they'll show it
<v Speaker 1>out here at the end or something. Maybe I don't
<v Speaker 1>think they do. Okay, all right, we'll bring it up here.
<v Speaker 1>Thenlet's go there the game of Browser. Thank you very much?
<v Speaker 1>Uh all right, yeah, that's uh, that's good.
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I mean are they saying how much this thing is?
<v Speaker 1>Because it's I don't think it's staying here in the story.
<v Speaker 1>But apparently the collection will be released on November twenty
<v Speaker 1>first pre orders begin on September twenty sixth, So.
<v Speaker 3>Try to get one. Yeah, me too, Sony. I normally
<v Speaker 3>like one, Please me too, Sony. Yeah, this looks good
<v Speaker 3>PlayStation please yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I'll roll scroll down so people go to see like
<v Speaker 1>the here's the PlayStation tie ties, here's the clamp the
<v Speaker 1>mix like a PlayStation controller. Uh, yeah, this is some
<v Speaker 1>good looking stuff here. I I guess I'm not surprised
<v Speaker 1>because this is pretty similar to what they did with
<v Speaker 1>the PS four one four was that the how was
<v Speaker 1>that the twentieth anniversary now or yeah? Yeah, yeah, geez?
<v Speaker 1>And that was that was great but also limited and
<v Speaker 1>I thought that looked very good as well. Uh, this
<v Speaker 1>in a lot of ways looks even better. And twelve thousand,
<v Speaker 1>three hundred units globally, so uh, probably gonna sell out instantly,
<v Speaker 1>we'll see.
<v Speaker 3>All right, let's get actually, let's take a quick break.
<v Speaker 1>When we get back, plenty of more headlines, including some
<v Speaker 1>an update on High Fi Rush.
<v Speaker 3>Do that right after this. All right, we are back.
<v Speaker 1>Let's get into it. Crafton CEO says it acquired Tango
<v Speaker 1>for its creativity, even if High Fi Rush too won't
<v Speaker 1>make money. This is from Chris Scullion at PGC. The
<v Speaker 1>CEO of Crafton says the acquisition of Tango game works
<v Speaker 1>with This was designed to add more creativity to its portfolio,
<v Speaker 1>rather than to make big money. Microsoft announced to April
<v Speaker 1>that Tango was one of four with those developers it
<v Speaker 1>would be shutting down and the studio seemingly closed its
<v Speaker 1>doors in gu However, last month, South Korean publisher Crafton,
<v Speaker 1>which also owns PUBG Studio and the Calisto Protocol studio
<v Speaker 1>Striking Distance, announced that it had acquired Tango Game Works,
<v Speaker 1>seemingly rescuing it. And it did that with the specifically
<v Speaker 1>with the purpose of making more high fi rush games
<v Speaker 1>rather than what's the darkness game? What's their horror game called? Yeah, yes,
<v Speaker 1>and so a hi fi rush It's back. They're going
<v Speaker 1>to make more of it, but the let's see here
<v Speaker 1>and now. In an an interview with game developer Chang'an
<v Speaker 1>Kim has explained that the decision to acquire Tango wasn't
<v Speaker 1>necessarily a financial one, but a creative one, and that
<v Speaker 1>having Tango's developers on board would lead to a greater
<v Speaker 1>variety of games, even if they don't make a fortune
<v Speaker 1>from them. Here's some quotes. We wanted to maintain their legacy,
<v Speaker 1>Kim said. Although they did not have a big success
<v Speaker 1>in their games, we saw many creatives worth pursuing. That's
<v Speaker 1>why we wanted to work with that organization. Because the
<v Speaker 1>move is still being finalized, Kim did not tell the
<v Speaker 1>publication how much the acquisition costs, saying that it's not
<v Speaker 1>too expensive or not too cheap either. He also went
<v Speaker 1>on to basically say that, well, we can't acquire Tango
<v Speaker 1>game works based on their financials or their numbers, right.
<v Speaker 1>We don't think High five Rush two is going to
<v Speaker 1>make us money, to be frank, but it's part of
<v Speaker 1>our attempt. We have to keep trying to develop games
<v Speaker 1>in the spirit of challenge taking. Tango GameWorks are creative,
<v Speaker 1>they want to try something new, and we want to
<v Speaker 1>be We want to do more of that. Making video
<v Speaker 1>games is really a hit or miss industry, and that
<v Speaker 1>is risk taking. But having more project lineups is actually
<v Speaker 1>a way to mitigate risks because one of them might
<v Speaker 1>work out. He also goes on to say that, like
<v Speaker 1>he just confirms, like I originally reported High Fi Rush
<v Speaker 1>lost money. He says it had a something like he
<v Speaker 1>says like minus fiscal something like that, minus financial earnings
<v Speaker 1>or something like that. But it lost money. So yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I gues this is a little bit of me doing
<v Speaker 1>I told you so. I feel a little more comfortable
<v Speaker 1>doing that now that everyone has their job secured. But sure, hey,
<v Speaker 1>I kind of like the sound of this. Still while
<v Speaker 1>it might not be great if you're working there to
<v Speaker 1>hear like, well, they don't have confidence that we're gonna
<v Speaker 1>make money. I think having someone be like, we get it.
<v Speaker 1>It's a hit driven business, and we just want to
<v Speaker 1>be in the business of making the kinds of games
<v Speaker 1>you're making. As a creative, maybe that's a little freeing.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, how are you reading this?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it feels like a compl assault where yeah, we
<v Speaker 2>really like this crew. We know that they're not gonna
<v Speaker 2>make money, but we're gonna let them do their thing,
<v Speaker 2>and you know what, we like these wild scallywags of people.
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna say I relate to this sentiment at all,
<v Speaker 2>because you know, I look in a.
<v Speaker 3>Mirror and I kind of see a similar thing.
<v Speaker 2>Just saying, but hey, as a creative, for sure, this
<v Speaker 2>must feel very free to not have that hammer or
<v Speaker 2>that guillotine hanging over your neck. Of like, if you
<v Speaker 2>don't make money, this is gonna drop. Or if you
<v Speaker 2>don't make enough money, or if you don't make like
<v Speaker 2>double the projected sales expectations, then this guy team is
<v Speaker 2>gonna drop and you're all gonna lose your jobs again.
<v Speaker 3>So shouts out to Crafton.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like other than being behind or publishing pubg
<v Speaker 2>I'm not one hundred percent familiar with Crafton's like library
<v Speaker 2>of stuff.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think the only other thing they've really
<v Speaker 1>done is that the Striking Distance horror game, the space
<v Speaker 1>horror game. Oh sure, which they said, yeah, yeah, that's it. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>and like as Paradis and Chat says, I'm not sure
<v Speaker 1>I believe Crafton. I mean, even if we believe them, now,
<v Speaker 1>we all know that it could change in an instant, right,
<v Speaker 1>it takes one quarter for things to go sideways and
<v Speaker 1>or new leadership to come in and they're like, wait,
<v Speaker 1>why did the previous executives buy this studio? They said, what,
<v Speaker 1>they don't care if it made money, What the hell
<v Speaker 1>are you talking about? Like that has nothing to do
<v Speaker 1>with what we're doing now. These things it's corporations. These
<v Speaker 1>things change, New ideas come in. It's like you know
<v Speaker 1>that story yesterday of or this week of the amazonbie,
<v Speaker 1>and like everyone come back to the office five days
<v Speaker 1>a week, and the people are explaining the reasons they
<v Speaker 1>were doing that, because hey, if you do that, a
<v Speaker 1>lot of people just won't come into the officele just quit.
<v Speaker 1>So it's a good way of laying people off with
<v Speaker 1>and having to actually lay people off. And it's like
<v Speaker 1>these companies always will pull levers at any time whenever
<v Speaker 1>they need to.
<v Speaker 3>They don't care.
<v Speaker 1>So obviously we know in a year everything that's said
<v Speaker 1>here could be completely irrelevant and have no bearing or
<v Speaker 1>material effect on the future of this studio. That said it,
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I like hearing this better than the
<v Speaker 1>studio better make us money or else they're going to
<v Speaker 1>be out on the street. You kind of by saying this,
<v Speaker 1>they are manifesting a little bit.
<v Speaker 3>I hope, right.
<v Speaker 2>I hope also the whatever profit Tango Game Works is
<v Speaker 2>able to create for Craft and is just going to
<v Speaker 2>be like a net positive across the board of like, hey, right,
<v Speaker 2>we're happy that we have another studio with like a
<v Speaker 2>proven track record of making great games that, let's to say,
<v Speaker 2>break even so we can continue doing that, yeah, and
<v Speaker 2>existing in the game space rather than just having like
<v Speaker 2>a couple of titles that are hit or miss.
<v Speaker 1>Right. And And this is like it very much flies
<v Speaker 1>in the face of how Microsoft works. Where when this
<v Speaker 1>company was under Microsoft, my understanding is they would you know,
<v Speaker 1>the leadership of Xbox was very used to setting very
<v Speaker 1>high expectations because it was their belief that, like, let's
<v Speaker 1>believe in these studios so much that they have to
<v Speaker 1>like really crack the you know, the whip to like
<v Speaker 1>try to deliver on those expectations so that like they will,
<v Speaker 1>they won't leave anything out on the on the field.
<v Speaker 1>They'll they'll put everything into this and with the hopes
<v Speaker 1>of one of these things will break out. And it's like, well,
<v Speaker 1>that didn't seem to work out too well for a
<v Speaker 1>lot of projects and a lot of ideas and a
<v Speaker 1>lot of services. So maybe like being like, let's let
<v Speaker 1>the creatives just be creative, say that that the reason
<v Speaker 1>we acquired you was to be creative. That's the job
<v Speaker 1>you're doing now. Your job is not to come up
<v Speaker 1>with a business plan for this company. Your job is
<v Speaker 1>to make something cool, and that's what we're gonna pay
<v Speaker 1>you to do. Maybe there's gonna be something there. I
<v Speaker 1>have no idea, but it sounds good to.
<v Speaker 3>Me, you know.
<v Speaker 2>Wishful thinking is that Crafton knows their part to play
<v Speaker 2>in the equation and to not meddle too much into
<v Speaker 2>the creative aspects and be like more of a publisher
<v Speaker 2>and help along with like advertising and getting the game
<v Speaker 2>in front of multiple eyes, or like helping the team
<v Speaker 2>get the resources they need to perhaps bring the game
<v Speaker 2>to more platforms. From the jump, we've seen grub across
<v Speaker 2>the board how console exclusivity is ultimately hurting games and
<v Speaker 2>hurting titles, and those publishers are kind of kicking themselves
<v Speaker 2>in the butt about those numbers being low when they
<v Speaker 2>know releasing games on a limited platform is going to
<v Speaker 2>give you limited numbers. I don't understand how these big
<v Speaker 2>gigantic publishers still don't see that.
<v Speaker 1>Yep. I think it's uh man. I think Microsoft has
<v Speaker 1>kind of burned themselves on the oven enough times. They
<v Speaker 1>are beginning to learn that, and that's why they're changing
<v Speaker 1>some things. But that means they have to like change
<v Speaker 1>so much that that is also causing a backlash, Like there's.
<v Speaker 3>No easy way out of that.
<v Speaker 1>But these third party publishers now like, yeah, they are
<v Speaker 1>they have really learned that.
<v Speaker 3>If square X has learned that, everyone has.
<v Speaker 1>Still Yeah, we'll see, I mean, we'll see what they learn,
<v Speaker 1>especially once Tetsya ni Mura leaves. Tetsia Nimura says he's
<v Speaker 1>planning to retire in a few years time. And wants
<v Speaker 1>to finish Kingdom Hearts four. This is from my Nintendo News.
<v Speaker 1>Legendary Square Inex developer and producer Tetsia Nimura has said
<v Speaker 1>in a new interview with Japanese site Young Jump that
<v Speaker 1>he plans to retire in a few years time. Mister
<v Speaker 1>Nimura says that he wants to have the longer way
<v Speaker 1>to Kingdom Hearts four wrapped up by then, and that
<v Speaker 1>his intention with Kingomarts four is to conclude the story.
<v Speaker 3>You finish the story?
<v Speaker 1>Do you believe he's going to finish the story?
<v Speaker 2>I don't believe him because the story is so freaking
<v Speaker 2>convoluted at this point.
<v Speaker 3>Even as a fan of the series, I think.
<v Speaker 1>It will finish the story in the same way Metal
<v Speaker 1>Gear solid for finish the story, which is there are
<v Speaker 1>going to be a lot of really clever retcons and
<v Speaker 1>and for fans, I bet they'll come away being like
<v Speaker 1>he pulled it off, and everyone out looking out at
<v Speaker 1>it from the outside like what is going on in there?
<v Speaker 3>But hey, there?
<v Speaker 1>I respect that beside of Kingdom Hearts, king Mart's four
<v Speaker 1>is being made with the intention of newcomers to easily
<v Speaker 1>jump in. Oh there it is, and there's jan in
<v Speaker 1>front of the Kingdom Hearts sign.
<v Speaker 3>I forget why you told me why that was there,
<v Speaker 3>but I forget they made it for me. That's why.
<v Speaker 3>Uh do you uh?
<v Speaker 1>You ever get a little scared when you hear a
<v Speaker 1>game like a sequel is being made with the intention
<v Speaker 1>of being easy for newcomers to jump in.
<v Speaker 3>No, not at all.
<v Speaker 1>I get a little bit like, I'm not like gatekeeping
<v Speaker 1>in a way, and what I'm saying like, I feel
<v Speaker 1>like the games work for certain reason, and whenever the
<v Speaker 1>developers get in their heads about like God, we should
<v Speaker 1>try to make it easier, or we should try to
<v Speaker 1>make it more appealing or whatever, I think they end
<v Speaker 1>up sanding down that not just the rough edges, but
<v Speaker 1>the interesting edges sometimes, sure, And I'm like, there's probably
<v Speaker 1>some other Like if you make something that people just
<v Speaker 1>can't ignore, the people who are newcomers will just manifest
<v Speaker 1>reasons to get in there and check it out. And
<v Speaker 1>I think that's been kind of at least in most scenarios,
<v Speaker 1>that's been the best case. But I don't know who
<v Speaker 1>knows that's what's going to happen here.
<v Speaker 2>I take it with a grain of salt when it
<v Speaker 2>comes to anything Final Fantasy or Numur.
<v Speaker 3>Related, because.
<v Speaker 2>Specifically with Kingdom Hearts, I feel like there's been the
<v Speaker 2>continuing conversation of like, well, we got to we want
<v Speaker 2>to bring more people in, We've got to get more
<v Speaker 2>people in. Yet the interest or hatred is already deeply
<v Speaker 2>embedded in the culture at this point. Grub that the
<v Speaker 2>people that have been curious will eventually check it out,
<v Speaker 2>like you said, And I think if Kingdom Hearts continues
<v Speaker 2>to operate in the ven diagram of in between Final
<v Speaker 2>Fantasy and Disney Adults, then there will always be an
<v Speaker 2>onboard ramp for people to eventually check it out and
<v Speaker 2>get into it right.
<v Speaker 1>And I think I am definitely thinking of Final Fantasy sixteen,
<v Speaker 1>a game that I do believe Numro worked on. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>maybe not, did he, I can't remember either way, I
<v Speaker 1>believe he did. Either way, the whole mantra of that
<v Speaker 1>game from Square Nix was this is going to be
<v Speaker 1>the Final Fantasy. They'll be very easy for everyone to
<v Speaker 1>get into because we're gonna make an action, We're going
<v Speaker 1>to get ready to turn based. And I think in
<v Speaker 1>hindsight now it has looked like that maybe didn't work
<v Speaker 1>out the way they hoped it it would, And at
<v Speaker 1>the same time, a lot of other RPG franchises that
<v Speaker 1>have gotten more into their bullshit, like Persona and some
<v Speaker 1>other stuff, those are growing. So it's like, I feel
<v Speaker 1>like you need to own your bullshit and that's the
<v Speaker 1>best strategy, at least in video games. But who knows,
<v Speaker 1>maybe they are going to actually end up doing exactly that.
<v Speaker 1>And this sentence here doesn't mean what I think it means,
<v Speaker 1>but we're correct, Mber, Yoshi P. Yeah, Yoshi Pi, that's
<v Speaker 1>what I was like. Yoshi Pi definitely oversaw sixteen. He
<v Speaker 1>was on the final Fantasy seven Remax series, which doesn't
<v Speaker 1>seem to have any of those issues, So who knows,
<v Speaker 1>Maybe maybe he'll be able to pull it off. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>it's got numror issues with a convolute story, but again,
<v Speaker 1>that might be a feature not a bug for a
<v Speaker 1>lot of people. Yeah, Kingdom Hearts four, do you when
<v Speaker 1>do you think you're gonna be playing that?
<v Speaker 3>God?
<v Speaker 2>When I'm married and I have two children and I've
<v Speaker 2>somehow finagled buying a house.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so never yeah, Ever, ever, some of us don't
<v Speaker 3>get happy endings, folks. I'm sorry, Yeah, sorry, Jan.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we'll see King Marks three kind of like surprised me,
<v Speaker 1>Like that actually came out. What's We're gonna move on here, sue?
<v Speaker 1>But what's the temperature check on Kingdom Hearts three?
<v Speaker 3>These days like a head.
<v Speaker 2>Of people feel I'm I'm someone that really liked it.
<v Speaker 2>I don't understand why a lot of people didn't. I
<v Speaker 2>mean I understand why people didn't like it. Sure that
<v Speaker 2>being said, Hey, we found out that Donald Duck is
<v Speaker 2>the most powerful wizard final I like that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, let's jump down to X Defiant. Absolutely
<v Speaker 1>not dying, according to Ubisoft. This is from Alex Hopley
<v Speaker 1>at Game Reactor. Ubisoft's Call of Duty Challenger X Defiant
<v Speaker 1>got off to a great start in its beta and launch,
<v Speaker 1>but player numbers have dwindled significantly since that hype began
<v Speaker 1>to die down. This has led to claims that the
<v Speaker 1>game is dying just months after launch. However, in a
<v Speaker 1>recent post explaining the game's roadmap, the developers have chosen
<v Speaker 1>to clear the air. Here's a quote. I just want
<v Speaker 1>to quickly address the status of the game, I e.
<v Speaker 1>Is the game dying. No, the game is absolutely not dying.
<v Speaker 1>The game is doing well. We just wanted to do better,
<v Speaker 1>from tackling packet loss issues to giving players more progression,
<v Speaker 1>new events, and more. The future does look brighter than
<v Speaker 1>some would have you believe for X Defiant according to
<v Speaker 1>the story. Yeah, I mean, it's so hard to gauge
<v Speaker 1>like how some games are doing because expectations versus reality,
<v Speaker 1>And it was the game overperforming. Now it's in line
<v Speaker 1>with what they were expecting. All that's possible. I don't know.
<v Speaker 1>I think they probably did have higher expectations for X Defiant.
<v Speaker 1>I would hope, though, at the same time that they
<v Speaker 1>were building a game that could survive and maybe even
<v Speaker 1>thrive with a wide range of possible like daily concurrent players,
<v Speaker 1>and maybe they're still well within that range.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>It's I I feel terrible grub because it every time
<v Speaker 2>X Defiant comes back in the news, I have to
<v Speaker 2>play the mental game of like what is that?
<v Speaker 3>Which one has that come out yet?
<v Speaker 2>And which one is that Fancy's colorful Call of Duty
<v Speaker 2>right right? And then like I feel bad about like that.
<v Speaker 2>I have a negative association when I realize, oh, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>it's the Ubisoft game, and then oh okay, then the
<v Speaker 2>expectation comes of well how long is this going to
<v Speaker 2>last yeah, and then seeing a headlining like this is
<v Speaker 2>not necessarily inspiring.
<v Speaker 1>To look at a positive light Yep, definitely. It's I
<v Speaker 1>feel like whenever a studio feels the need to say
<v Speaker 1>this not necessarily not necessarily a great sign, kind of
<v Speaker 1>let the game do the talking for it.
<v Speaker 3>But I don't.
<v Speaker 1>I don't think x difine is at risk of evaporating
<v Speaker 1>like a concord.
<v Speaker 3>That doesn't seem to be the case.
<v Speaker 1>And I will say that I do feel occasional interest
<v Speaker 1>in as someone who did spend a lot of time
<v Speaker 1>with Call of Duty, being like, I want to go
<v Speaker 1>play Call of Duty, but maybe one without the baggage
<v Speaker 1>that could still be X Defiant. The issue is I
<v Speaker 1>do feel the sort of negativity of a lot of
<v Speaker 1>other people like either not knowing or caring about it.
<v Speaker 1>And so if I was like, Hey, Giant Bomb Crew
<v Speaker 1>and Seleck, should we play X Defiant this week?
<v Speaker 3>I'm not.
<v Speaker 1>I'm like never going to really push that point because
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, that doesn't seem like a good use of
<v Speaker 1>our time. I don't think people would be on board.
<v Speaker 1>So it's and I think a lot of people are
<v Speaker 1>probably feeling that similar feeling of do you want to
<v Speaker 1>try to convince your friends to come by ex Defiant
<v Speaker 1>with you when they are all probably gonna be like,
<v Speaker 1>we're already playing war Zone, dude, what are you talking about.
<v Speaker 1>So that's a it's a tough, uphill battle for every
<v Speaker 1>game in the space, but I think especially for a
<v Speaker 1>bigger one from a bigger publisher that maybe needs a
<v Speaker 1>certain level of success to justify ongoing cost of producing
<v Speaker 1>a game like this.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think, folks at home, you should just introduce
<v Speaker 2>themed weeks for your friend groups.
<v Speaker 3>It's fun exactly.
<v Speaker 2>You started building excitement of like, oh shit, infrastructure week,
<v Speaker 2>structure week.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then I get excited even if they don't
<v Speaker 1>know what infrastructure means.
<v Speaker 2>It's great exactly exactly. And see people are still talking
<v Speaker 2>about B week make success. Hey, that nine to one
<v Speaker 2>one show made a whole season about man.
<v Speaker 3>They saw, they saw where all the excitement was that
<v Speaker 3>whole infrastructure week.
<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna be wearing a hard hat, a high
<v Speaker 2>vis vest, and that hold a clipboard clipper the whole time.
<v Speaker 3>I almost said it wrong. Sorry, folks.
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm gonna get I'm gonna get all my
<v Speaker 1>Dicky's clothing out and it's gonna it's gonna be real good.
<v Speaker 3>Ideah, it's gonna be good stuff.
<v Speaker 2>That being said, in all the goofing around X to Fine,
<v Speaker 2>I do hope that it succeeds, because I think there
<v Speaker 2>is the space for a COD alternative, especially with Battlefield
<v Speaker 2>not really having a space in the gaming environment right now.
<v Speaker 3>I think.
<v Speaker 2>Me as an outsider to COD, it just feels very bloated,
<v Speaker 2>and it feels like a system that is like way
<v Speaker 2>too ingrained that you have to have it.
<v Speaker 3>It starts to feel like a destiny.
<v Speaker 2>Where I don't know where anything is, so I'm just
<v Speaker 2>gonna stay away from it, and that the fan base
<v Speaker 2>occasionally will feel too rabid or at least a hardcore
<v Speaker 2>audience behind COD that maybe I would check out an
<v Speaker 2>X Defiant down the line, Grubb, if you put into slack,
<v Speaker 2>let's go play X Defian, I'd be okay, Yes, yeah, I.
<v Speaker 1>Know, you'd be okay, yes. I was thinking, like, you know,
<v Speaker 1>it was what would Sean thinking you said it in
<v Speaker 1>chatter and he's like, no, We're gonna put do more
<v Speaker 1>oops all nikkis and call of Duty. I'm like, well
<v Speaker 1>that does sound fun too, and that I play that
<v Speaker 1>out in my head, I'm like, okay, I'm down for
<v Speaker 1>more Call of Duty at the same time, so.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all right, let's.
<v Speaker 1>Clean up a few other things here. Minecraft is going
<v Speaker 1>to be dropping PlayStation VR support next year. There's a
<v Speaker 1>report from Wall Street Journal. PlayStation five has sold twice
<v Speaker 1>as well as the Xbox series sn X something I
<v Speaker 1>think we've talked about a bunch of times. Now what
<v Speaker 1>do we even say there anymore? A duh? And then
<v Speaker 1>I like this one. Yeah, you want those games, right,
<v Speaker 1>so here you go. Now, let's see you clear them.
<v Speaker 1>That's the name of a game. There's two of them.
<v Speaker 1>These are the games that are This is a developer
<v Speaker 1>making those games you see in the mobile game ads
<v Speaker 1>where it's like someone like pulling the pins out and
<v Speaker 1>the lava falls down on the guy and you're like,
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, how can you be so stupid? How
<v Speaker 1>can you play games so bad? I'm gonna go download
<v Speaker 1>this and try it myself. And then that's not really
<v Speaker 1>the game. The game is, you know, Ebony, and it's
<v Speaker 1>like some princess being like, hey, hello, my lord, now
<v Speaker 1>build your kingdom. This game is actually all of those
<v Speaker 1>games you see in the ads and just that, and
<v Speaker 1>there's two of them, so like as those games have
<v Speaker 1>changed in the ads, like now it's so just running
<v Speaker 1>on a field going through gates. Actually, don't know if
<v Speaker 1>that's in one of these ones, but that's the ones
<v Speaker 1>I see in ads now, and I will like, I
<v Speaker 1>just want to play that game. And then of course
<v Speaker 1>you get in there and it's like that's ten seconds
<v Speaker 1>and then the rest of the game is building up
<v Speaker 1>your base. Again, it's very frustrating. But this is now
<v Speaker 1>coming to consoles. It's gonna be on PlayStation I think
<v Speaker 1>Xbox and and the Switch and it's a as a
<v Speaker 1>collection of both one and two of Yeah, you want
<v Speaker 1>those games, right, So here you go. Now, let's see
<v Speaker 1>you clear them. Which is a beautiful name.
<v Speaker 3>Sure, I'll play this. I'm all for that group. All right.
<v Speaker 1>Poll question, let's get to the pole question from yesterday.
<v Speaker 3>Got it right here? Actually, maybe I gotta frame it
<v Speaker 3>up proper. There we go.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, are you happy with the alleged Nintendo switch to renders?
<v Speaker 1>We got playing responses here, Let's.
<v Speaker 3>Go work our way up from the bottom.
<v Speaker 1>Only three percent are very unhappy, three percent are unhappy.
<v Speaker 1>Fifty say me, thirty percent say happy and thirteen percent
<v Speaker 1>say very happy. This is probably the like everyone acknowledges
<v Speaker 1>that this is not bad in any way, but I
<v Speaker 1>was like a little like, Okay, I guess I don't
<v Speaker 1>know what I wasn't I was definitely hoping for exactly this,
<v Speaker 1>So why am I disappointed? I tell you, I'm cured
<v Speaker 1>of that because I saw some people like being hysterical
<v Speaker 1>about it on Twitter. I'll being like, Nintendo used to innovate.
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe they're doing this, and it's like, did
<v Speaker 1>you forget like the Super Nintendo, the you know, the
<v Speaker 1>Game Boy Color, the Game Boy Advance after the Game Boy,
<v Speaker 1>the three DS after the DS, the WU after the Wei.
<v Speaker 1>This is what they always do. So I'm cured of
<v Speaker 1>that insanity. I'll say that after seeing people being completely unreasonable.
<v Speaker 3>But I I sympathize.
<v Speaker 1>With people who are man about this. How do you feel, jan.
<v Speaker 3>I it? Yeah, I'm okay.
<v Speaker 2>As long as it works, as long as I don't
<v Speaker 2>get joy con drift, and as long as it got
<v Speaker 2>game good you know grub, I'm okay.
<v Speaker 3>Hey yep.
<v Speaker 2>Also, I'm just hoping it's not gonna be five hundred plus.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, God do.
<v Speaker 1>We uh, have we done a poll about what they
<v Speaker 1>think the price is gonna be.
<v Speaker 2>We didn't do a poll, but we did like a
<v Speaker 2>temperature check around the room. Yeah, during the BombCast, and
<v Speaker 2>I think you said four hundred to four fifty, and
<v Speaker 2>that feels.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm like dialed in on four hundred now, where
<v Speaker 1>it's like, I know they could get away with five
<v Speaker 1>hundred if they really wanted to, but I think they
<v Speaker 1>come in at four hundred. They probably will still make
<v Speaker 1>a profit because the chip they're gonna end up using
<v Speaker 1>probably is relatively old from Nvidia at this point. They really,
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure, got it very efficient to produce those now,
<v Speaker 1>and they want they want families. That is their bread
<v Speaker 1>and butter, and they own that space, and it only
<v Speaker 1>feels like Sony is going further away from that. Microsoft
<v Speaker 1>is kind of a non factor in that. So why
<v Speaker 1>give it up? I mean, and I know they could like, well,
<v Speaker 1>let's put the screws to them, if the families don't
<v Speaker 1>have any other option, let's charge five hundred, But then
<v Speaker 1>that starts to like, no, they'll just take that money
<v Speaker 1>and put it in other places in their entertainment budget,
<v Speaker 1>not towards other video games. You're just gonna scare them away,
<v Speaker 1>so just go with four hundred. But I know every
<v Speaker 1>time I have that conversation, it's like, that's not how
<v Speaker 1>they make these choices. They make the choice based on
<v Speaker 1>what they think they can get away with. So we'll see,
<v Speaker 1>all right, new pole question here in a second, just
<v Speaker 1>a simple one, but I'm curious. But in the meantime, Jan,
<v Speaker 1>what do we have happening on the website? Where can
<v Speaker 1>people find us all that good stuff?
<v Speaker 3>Jeff Grub?
<v Speaker 2>We got game Miss Mornings popping off tomorrow as well.
<v Speaker 2>But for the rest of today, we have an episode
<v Speaker 2>of Voicemail Dump Truck driving over to your neighborhood later
<v Speaker 2>in the afternoon.
<v Speaker 1>That's not what dump trucks to Hong Kong.
<v Speaker 2>Tomorrow we have a fun filled BCR where Grub will
<v Speaker 2>be talking about his adventures flying through the Grand Canyon
<v Speaker 2>with Microsoft Flight Simulator. We'll also be talking to one
<v Speaker 2>to More who's saying about his time playing the new
<v Speaker 2>Dragon Age game, The Vailguard, as well as a upf. Tomorrow,
<v Speaker 2>gonna do a good old classic regular decular grab bag
<v Speaker 2>full of different games and uh, if you hey, folks
<v Speaker 2>at home, we got some We got some good content
<v Speaker 2>every week, but this week in particular, please check out
<v Speaker 2>Grub flying a plane. I've never seen a man so
<v Speaker 2>meant to be with a machine before.
<v Speaker 3>Uh.
<v Speaker 2>It was like, you know in that Pixar movie Soul
<v Speaker 2>where Jamie Fox talks about like seeing someone just like
<v Speaker 2>in the zone and like you see their soul like
<v Speaker 2>just like vibing.
<v Speaker 3>That was Grub behind the top of it.
<v Speaker 1>I felt very in tune with that that piece of
<v Speaker 1>machinery definitely.
<v Speaker 2>And as well, if you missed it earlier in the week,
<v Speaker 2>please go check out the Cologne, Germany travelogue documenting our
<v Speaker 2>times at a chocolate museum and when we went to
<v Speaker 2>It's really good the I'm not tooting my own horn here, Grub,
<v Speaker 2>but I do think it's very telling that the vibes
<v Speaker 2>are immaculate.
<v Speaker 3>If me editing it and.
<v Speaker 2>Having to watch my coworker repeatedly as I edit this,
<v Speaker 2>and then I just watched it again myself, it's a
<v Speaker 2>fun time.
<v Speaker 3>If you want to.
<v Speaker 2>If you miss hanging out with your friends folks at home,
<v Speaker 2>go watch this video your we're your group of friends.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, it's a good time.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Dragon Age Vailguard.
<v Speaker 1>Previews did pop off here like as we started the show,
<v Speaker 1>they look very positive, very excited. Tam did go for
<v Speaker 1>game Spot. Ben Boum wasn't invited, who knows why, but
<v Speaker 1>Tam were for games too, and yeah, people are like
<v Speaker 1>got to play for like six or seven hours and
<v Speaker 1>they're saying stuff like that, like Britney Bombacher saying it's
<v Speaker 1>the game that it should be in twenty twenty four,
<v Speaker 1>Danny Pania says it's his hype is through the roof
<v Speaker 1>ham put out. He says he's very impressed and it
<v Speaker 1>could be special. He's got his preview up on GameSpot
<v Speaker 1>dot com. Now, yes, I'm gonna go read it right
<v Speaker 1>after this, and you all should too.
<v Speaker 2>Speaking about game Spot, star Players is back, Lucy James
<v Speaker 2>played DJ Hero with acclaimed dj Z and I guess made.
<v Speaker 3>Fun of him for playing as a widow maker no sorry, no.
<v Speaker 1>Window maker and tracer and she said, so you're annoying,
<v Speaker 1>which is a good burn. Overwatch fans will all appreciate that.
<v Speaker 1>All right, we'll talk about that Dragon Age stuff like you,
<v Speaker 1>like Jen said on the BCR tomorrow, I'm sure if
<v Speaker 1>I think Tam might still be on the show tomorrow
<v Speaker 1>next week, I think you're missing, so maybe I'll talk
<v Speaker 1>to him a little bit on there as well. Thanks
<v Speaker 1>for watching, everybody, Jan thank you so much for hanging
<v Speaker 1>out with me today and talking about video games.
<v Speaker 3>Man, I really appreciate it. It's the only way to
<v Speaker 3>start a Thursday grop.
<v Speaker 1>Thank you all for watching, Thank you for listening. You're
<v Speaker 1>the best audience in gaming. Until next time, have a
<v Speaker 1>good one, take care of yourself and goodbye.
<v Speaker 3>Ah