Hour 2 – Kalen DeBoer Rumors, Ross Tucker

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Speaker 1: You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio Hour two.

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Speaker 2: On this Meet Friday, Dan and the Dani's Dan Patrick Show just went out and inspected the menu. Dylan doing all the cooking here. He'd like to be called a chef. Smoked prime rib, sauteed mushrooms, Prime rib sliders, Cuban sliders, and smoked salmon blt sliders.

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Speaker 3: Oh has it better than we?

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Speaker 2: Stat of the Day brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the program. Once again, I used my announcer voice for this. Someone is guilty, No one is innocent. In the new drama series All Her Fault, a seemingly perfect family's world is shattered when their young son goes missing, streaming now only on Peacock. I'm hopeful that that's my next job where I can just sit people give you a copy and then you just read it and they pay you for it, because I wanted to do that in a world where you could do the movie trailers. That feels like I'm I'm not up to that. Hey, I don't think I could get to that level right now, but.

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Speaker 3: That's my goal.

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Speaker 2: I aspire to be the when you go into the movie theater in a world yes to.

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Speaker 4: I think you're at least at the HBO Max documentary documentaries level of voice.

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Speaker 3: At least. Well, I've been asked to do those things, but you know, I want to do something a little more glamorous.

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Speaker 5: I think the movies. I'll be calling you in a word.

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Speaker 3: But who goes to the theaters anymore?

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Speaker 4: Some of us still do?

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Speaker 3: Yeah more.

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Speaker 6: No, I'm raising my hand. You said, who still goes for you? And I was like, yeah, okay, yep, all right. So I was Utopia last week?

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Speaker 3: Oh, how was it? It was good?

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Speaker 6: Not as good as the first one, as Tolbia to Electric Boogaloo, but not as good as the first one.

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Speaker 5: Okay.

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Speaker 3: It seems like it's kids movies and then occasion like a big movie occasionally.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think child service is gonna come to my door because I took my son to see z Utopia and I also took them to see Bad Boys.

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Speaker 5: Oh, both in the movie theaters. Oh it's the father son experience.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Paulie.

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Speaker 7: If I could find a film or film company that would have you do the trailer, would you give them the first one on the house proof of concept?

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Speaker 8: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you. I mean I shouldn't have to do that.

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Speaker 7: No, I know, but like to grease the wheels.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they should say, oh, we've heard your voice. It's not like, yeah, come on in, put this down on tape and then we'll see let me hear, because sometimes your voice when you're just speaking to somebody, it sounds different than when you actually put it down on tape.

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Speaker 3: Yees, do companies still do movie trailers that way? I don't think so. I don't really think they do in a world anymore.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they do things like Nicole Kidman comes on the screen and then she tells you about something wonderful.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's like she's hosting the movie. Yes she is. She's lovely.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I'm gonna have to find another job, another gig. Yes, maybe I'll be a DJ, maybe making a lot of coin.

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Speaker 3: I can be tiesto.

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Speaker 7: Yes, Paul, have you guys been to movie theaters lately? Because they're really drinks fall criminal?

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Speaker 3: Criminal? The price is criminal. Yeah, criminal is everything.

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Speaker 8: I mean, well, what isn't what's currently appropriately priced? That's like, man, that felt good, I was on it.

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Speaker 3: Nothing.

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Speaker 2: I'm a single thing in the world croco Bell seems like it's still McDonald's.

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Speaker 3: Seems like it's McDonalds.

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Speaker 8: Would cost you fifteen dollars for two crappy cheeseburgers at fries.

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Speaker 3: Well, we're not gonna get McDonald's as a sponsor. Yes, Tom.

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Speaker 4: The chairs have gotten almost too comfortable with the recliner and everything, and it's cold in there, and they check the lights and next thing you know, you're dozing off a little bit. It's like I came here to watch a movie and I'm flowing asleep for the trailer.

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Speaker 2: I think my wife and I think it was a medium drink in popcorn, and I think it was thirty dollars. No, no, I'm like, you know when somebody says all that will be thirty dollars and you're like, no, no, it's just for the drink and the popcorn.

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Speaker 3: And then you're going, how did that happen?

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Speaker 8: That was like one of the worst things about stopping drinking was like, if I was going to buy a ten dollar beer, I didn't really.

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Speaker 3: Care because you're like, that's a beer. I gotta get it.

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Speaker 5: What are you gonna do?

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Speaker 3: I can't watch soccer and not drink a beer.

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Speaker 8: I have to have this, and then you stop drinking and you're buying a ten dollars lemonade instead, and you're like, this is water, sugar and lemons. Why is it ten dollars?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, pulling.

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Speaker 7: I was on a flight last weekend and on the way back, the beers on the flight the drinks were six bucks each.

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Speaker 3: That same like a good deal. Six bucks for a beer.

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Speaker 7: I think that's solid.

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Speaker 8: Six dollars for a can of beer. Yeah, but it is never a good deal. But I used to put in five dollars for ten of them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but on a plane and you have to pay a little bit more, not a good deal.

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Speaker 3: A plane beer is by nature a bad deal.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't like drinking on a plane unless it's free. It's terrible. Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't like drinking on a plane, even when you know, if you're sitting in first class and they go, would you.

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Speaker 3: Like some champagne? And I go, no, no, would you like it doing it?

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Speaker 2: And you know, it can be like eight in the morning, and then I got I had a guy next to me, he goes, uh, can I get a double?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Oh my god.

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Speaker 8: We're like so preconditioned to how horrible the price for everything is that six dollars for a can of beer feels pretty good. That's crazy, Yeah, that's crazy. I remember when I first started going to bars. I went into and I was under twenty one. I wasn't supposed to be in there, but we all went into this one place that we knew would serve underage kids, and we.

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Speaker 3: Were like, this is so sick. Let's go into this bar and a bottle of bud was two dollars, and I was like, this is stupid. What are we doing this for.

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Speaker 8: Let's go back under the bridges that we normally hang out on there and for a thirty pack we all throw him five bucks.

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Speaker 3: Three of us can split thirty beers.

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Speaker 2: Perfect, okay, But twenty five years from now we're going to look back. I can go, man, you could get a beer for six dollars on an airplane, So a two dollars bud, Yeah, that may seemed exorbitant, but that was twenty five years ago.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of the way it's in.

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Speaker 2: Twenty five years from now, we're gonna go man, those were the days six dollars beers. I remember when I first got to New York in the early eighties, and I went to the bar and I didn't make any money. I remember ordering a rolling Rock, and so I'm thinking, Okay, that's a cheap beer. I mean, it was a cheap beer when I was growing up. Then it became sort of a boutique, a bougie beer, like all of a sudden, oh man, rolling around six dollars. And this is back in the early eighties. I said, no, only one, and the guy goes six bucks. I'm like, oh my god, welcome to New York. Yeah, seedon.

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Speaker 8: That's the thing though, that like we don't get, is that it only costs that much money for us. Yeah, when you go overseas, when you go to another country, things aren't that expensive. It's only expensive. So you could get like a bottle of wine here for one hundred dollars, but if you go over to Spain, it's five dollars.

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Speaker 2: Like, oh I I just have to pay for the flight over there.

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Speaker 8: Right, and then after that everything is dramatically cheaper. Everything else remarkably cheaper.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, ah, welcome to the program already in progress. Army is getting six against Navy. You know how I feel about the academies. I was never smart enough to get in there, or maybe athletic enough to get in there, but there was part of me that always wanted to get in there. And I don't know why, because I'm not a military type of guy where I'm going to be like man, I'm going to do push ups and sit ups and get up at five in the morning and go to class and all of the get my hair cut, all of those things. It's all the things that I probably would have rebelled against. But there was something magical about that, and that's why you have this game. It means more than the final score. And how many rivalries do we have left that mean more than just the final score. There's no transfer portal, you know, nil. It is old school and it is still must see TV for me. So Army and Navy. Navy's really good. They're nine and two and Army is six and five. The one hundred and twenty sixth meeting they will be in Baltimore, that'll be coming up this Saturday.

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Speaker 3: It's always great the environment.

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Speaker 2: And I've said this before, if you can go to West Point to watch a game. I haven't been to Annapolis, but I've been to West Point numerous times, or if you can go to the Army Navy game.

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Speaker 3: It's magical, it really is.

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Speaker 2: It's something that is unique in our sports society, and I hope that it remains what we've grown up and expected it to be. And sometimes it's the team that is not expected to win ends up winning eight seven seven three DP show email address Dpadanpatrick dot com, Twitter handle DP show Tampa fans, they're fired up because your watch last night where you blow a fourteen point lead. Now all of a sudden these games against Carolina. The season comes down to playing Carolina two of your last three games. But do not rule out the Saints beating Carolina this weekend in New Orleans. This is one of those where you go, all right, I'm jumping on the Carolina bandwagon.

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Speaker 3: I'm right there with you.

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Speaker 2: That's when it, you know, that's where it gets dangerous when you're expecting them to win, because as a Carolina fan, you hope they win. Now you start to expect them to win, that's when the rug gets pulled out from underneath you. But they're favored by two and a half in that game against the Saints. Heisman Weekend by the way, Fernando Mendoza will win the Heisman. I voted for him to win the Heisman. I voted for Jeremiah Loves and Diego Pavia third. That's my ballot. I checked with heisen Folks. I said, oh, look, I'm gonna reveal my ballot, and they said it's fine.

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Speaker 3: They didn't want me.

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Speaker 2: To reveal it before all the votes were in. But everything's in and all the votes counted. Julian Sayan from Ohio State will also be there and you could vote for three, and so I did. Mendoza that's the best story of the year Indiana football.

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Speaker 3: What he did.

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Speaker 2: Transferring in played extremely well, might be the number one pick in the draft. Jeremiah Love I thought was wonderful for Notre Dame, and Diego Pavia was a great story. Has been a great story since he transferred to Vanderbilt. So that'll be coming up this weekend. There's nothing new on the Michigan coaching situation, and even Sharon Moore is probably going to have his arraignment this morning, but no other details and even the coaching situation Kaylin to Bore. Now, there's a lot of people who have their lists. Who's the favorite Vegas has this as well. Now there's no reports whatsoever. Kaylin de Boor's name is not going away, and I know he can say whatever he wants. He had to address it yesterday, but his name is not going away. And I don't know if there's more to it. And the only reason why I say this is when it was brought to my attention a while ago that his family wasn't happy in Alabama. Now, once again, I don't know if it's true. He said, hey, we love it here, you know, saying all the right things. But his name came up for Penn State, and now his name is coming up for Michigan. When he took the job, I said to him, do you know what you're getting into? And I think he was surprised at the question, because you don't know what you're getting into unless you've lived that. There's no way you're following Saban where we want national championships. We don't want playoff berths. You open up and you lose to Florida State. Now all of a sudden, they were talking about his buyout, and maybe he realizes what this landscape is and maybe realizes it's not for him. Lincoln Riley's name has been brought up a couple of times. Now, once again, there's no reporting Lincoln Riley. His name is on the short list with Michigan, whether it's true or not. He's got the number one recruiting class coming in. I was told yesterday his people reached out to Michigan. Once again, I don't know what that means. He's got a big buyout at USC. It feels like, you know, you turn the corner there, you got a good recruiting class, you played some pretty good football this year. But once again, try to figure out what coaches want, don't want, what athletic departments want, the ads want, the governor wants. And you know, I said there was going to be chaos. There's more chaos than we thought there was going to be in college football. But when I told you that a few weeks ago, maybe it was a month ago, that there would be chaos in college football, and there has been and it's not over yet.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Pay, it's just a fascinating to even discuss this, that you would leave Alabama by choice or leave the SEC by choice, that the conference that stirs the drink in college football, Michigan is fantastic. I wonder if it's one of those things he just saw earlier the season that I can never replace Nick Saban and I know it and I'm aware of it.

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Speaker 3: If he wins a national title, Okay, it's a temporary band aid. We need another one. I mean Nick one, numerous ones. But I think you don't know.

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Speaker 2: You know, somebody brought this up to me a while ago because I thought about leaving ESPN and I was going to go to NBC, and back then people didn't leave ESPN. And then I thought, man, I love it at ESPN, but I had this opportunity. I was going to make twice the amount of money. I was going to work half the time. And I remember somebody saying, do you know what you're getting into? And I go, uh, yeah, but I didn't. And then I said, no, I don't want to leave ESPN. Like I was comfortable there and it was less money, but I love the environment of it. I love the everyday work. I love the people that I worked with. It was great, it was fun, but it was almost like, well, if you don't go now, and I was like, I don't know what that network thing is. And Dick Ever saw genius at NBC Sports was like, come on in, what do you want to do? And I said, well, you got Bob and he goes, yeah, but there's enough to go around. And I kept thinking, I don't know if I like, I want to work every day. And then I got cold feet and I said, I'm not going to do it. And you know what he said. He said, you made the right decision. I said, why do you say that? He goes, because you've got to stay wherever you're comfortable.

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Speaker 3: If you're comfortable there, then stay. Don't take it.

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Speaker 2: Because you feel like you need to. That's the next step. He goes, you'll get that next step. And then I eventually did. And I worked at NBC. But I went there when I wanted to go there, not when I thought I was supposed to go there.

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Speaker 3: And maybe Calein de Boor is like, I can't pass up Alabama? Well you can, you can.

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Speaker 2: He came out of nowhere, and that's why I thought, man, you don't know what you're getting into.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Marvin, Alabama wins the national title. Kaylen de Moore will be the college version of Nick Sirianni where great, you won, now win again. Your team is too good. You guys have to keep winning because you'll permanently be on the hot seat.

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Speaker 5: There.

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Speaker 2: YouTube, Subscribe, hit that thumbs up icon and comment away. I can't go a week without talking to Rons Tucker. I can't end my week without talking to Ron Tucker. It's a Meet Friday, Ross Tucker The Ross Tucker Football Podcast. You can follow him on social media at Ross Tucker, NFL. He's in the booth for the Jets in the Jags Sunday kickoff at one eastern on CBS.

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Speaker 3: Okay, sell me on this matchup here, Ross.

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Speaker 9: Well, first of all, welcome to my lovely hotel room in Jacksonville, Floorda.

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Speaker 5: I'm about to go to production meetings and Dan.

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Speaker 9: I don't know what they're doing these days, but the desk is so small I can't put the microphone on the desk, so I'm holding it here like I'm a Bob Barker something.

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Speaker 3: It looks like you're doing stand up here.

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Speaker 5: Like Fritzy.

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Speaker 9: Maybe I'll tell you on the matchup. I got two things for you. Number one is the Jacksonville Jaguars are good. The Jacksonville Jaguars are legitimately good and in fact their first place in the af South. But nobody's talking about him. I mean, everybody's talking about the Texans and their defense and all these games they've won in a row, and everyone's talking about Philip Rivers and the Colts. The Jaguars are just down here in Northeast Florida, just winning games, winning a bunch of.

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Speaker 5: Games in a row, playing really well on both sides of the ball.

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Speaker 9: They got a great chance to win double digit games for the first time since twenty seventeen. They have a legit good squad, so that's number one, and they took it to the Colts last week. From the Jets perspective, man, it was bad last week against the Dolphins. It looks like Brady Cook, the undrafted rookie free agent, is gonna get his first NFL start, which I love, Dan, I love you know, There's not that many people in the history of the world that can say they start an NFL game. I like, he's getting this opportunity. Who knows, Maybe he's awesome, maybe he plays great. For my sake calling the game, I hope he plays great. I'm looking forward to meeting him tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Okay, are you you're looking forward to that more than you are Philip Rivers? Maybe playing against Seattle.

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Speaker 5: Yes, because that's the game I'm doing.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yes, yes, but no I am.

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Speaker 9: I mean, like everybody else fascinated by the Philip Rivers thing. You know, a lot of teams Dan over the years have reached out to me to come out of retirement. But I just didn't think it was fair to my wife and daughters to reset my.

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Speaker 5: Hall of Fame clock.

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Speaker 9: Oh you know, I mean they've been waiting seventeen years already, and so for me to come out of retirement at forty six and have to make them wait five more years, right for me to be eligible, I mean twenty two years is asking a lot of my family and friends to wait for my Hall of Fame induction.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's what makes you Father of the Year. Unbelievable. Why do you, offensive Lineman go sleeveless in cold weather.

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Speaker 9: It's a mindset thing. It's a mentality thing. Sleeves are soft. There's no other way around it. You are sending a message to the other team that you are soft, that you're not tough enough if you wear sleeves. I played in Buffalo, a bunch of games, played New England a little bit. You absolutely positively cannot wear sleeves. Plus, by the way, it does give them something to grab. And if you're really that worried about the cold, you can put a thin layer of asaline on your skin, which, by the way, does help protect your skin. You know, ironically, Dan, this is the truth. Okay, the coldest game I ever played, and I believe it's one of the five coldest game and games in Bill's history. You're gonna appreciate this. It was at Cincinnati, it was at the Bengals. I had no It was two thousand and four, look it up. I had no idea it got that cold in Cincinnati. I come out before the game and Chad Ocho Cinco is like, hey, buddy, you better put a long sleeve shirt on, because I was sleeve list. It was freezing. Here's how cold it was, Dan after the game. You couldn't take a hot shower to start because it stung your wind burnt skin that bad. You started with a cold shower, then you worked your way up to like lukewarm, and then you got to a little bit warm. Otherwise I don't understand the science, but the hot water on your frost bit wind burnt skin, it was like it would sting unbelievably painfully.

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Speaker 2: My takeaway from that story is Ocho Cinco didn't know your name's.

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Speaker 5: That's probably factual.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yes, do you think Ocho Cinco knew a lot of the starting with guards? Now, hey guess what, Ocho Cinco, we won, you lost, So maybe you should have known My name.

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Speaker 3: Don't you know? Didn't you know that the coldest game?

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Speaker 5: And right now Chargers Chargers playoff.

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Speaker 10: Game, Dan Fouts, I know, Okay, I still wasn't thinking that when you come down from Buffalo this Cincinnati's like Northern Kentucky, I mean Cincinnati like people have a fake Southern accent some of them.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but is Buffalo really cold or does Buffalo just have a lot of snow?

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Speaker 3: Both?

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Speaker 5: And Buffalo has a lot of wind.

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Speaker 9: There was a game, Dan, I'm not kidding you where our kicker was Ryan Lindell, and I'm on the field goal extra point team. And let's say it was like a thirty eight yarder. He kicked the ball. It probably got to like the goal line, and then there was a huge gust of wind. It blew back like a boomerang and landed three feet from my feet, and the refs were still underneath the goalpost going no good, like, yeah, no kidding, buddy, it almost hit me, No kidding, It was no good.

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Speaker 2: How do you explain the Tampa Bay Buccaneers?

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Speaker 5: Wow, that was that was rough?

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Speaker 9: You know, I've never seen so many things that happened last night. A team had nineteen penalties and they won the game. You know, the Bucks are up by two touchdowns late. It feels like they're finally gonna break out of this funk. You know, it makes these two.

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Speaker 3: The penalties were declined.

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Speaker 2: I think the NFL record is twenty three penalties, so they were called for twenty two, but three of them declined.

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Speaker 5: Unbelievable.

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Speaker 9: And then Kyle Pitts, who hasn't done this in years. They have no Drake Lundon. Kyle Pitts all of a sudden, the guy you should be most worried about, I guess he comes out, lights him up. Kirk Cousins for some reason, has Todd Bowle's number. Just a devastating loss for the Bucks, the only saving grace and it doesn't make him feel better about it right now. But they play the Panthers two out of the last three weeks. You know, if they beat the Panthers head to head in both those games, they're still gonna win the division.

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Speaker 5: And last night, I guess becomes irrelevant.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but is there a bigger picture here that maybe you do sneak in because it's the NFC South, But you know, moving forward, how long is Mike Evans going to be able to play. Is Todd Bowle's job safe even if you make the playoffs.

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Speaker 9: Well, people are gonna ask that anytime there's a collapse like this, and I think big picture, it's hard to picture the Bucks having any chance whatsoever in the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: You know, I would have said earlier.

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Speaker 9: In the season, Hey, Dan, they got Baker, they got those receivers, they got a puncher's chance. You know, they can win shootouts. They're not really playing that way. Baker's not playing as well as he did earlier in the year. Even as they're getting guys back to health, they don't look quite the same on the offensive side of the ball, and they're light years worse than like the Rams and Seahawks. I mean to me, those are easily the two best teams in the NFL right now, and it's right now hard to picture anybody from the NFC, you know, knocking those two teams off. I guess the Eagle have the talent to do it, but certainly they're gonna have to play a lot better than they have been to have a chance against those two teams.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Ross Tucker and the Ross Tucker Football Podcast, and he'll be in the booth for the Jets and Jags. That'll be Sunday on CBS at one eastern. You know, the finger pointing, maybe it's time to sit down Jalen Hurts and still not sure.

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Speaker 3: Was that a fair question to ask?

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Speaker 5: Nick?

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Speaker 3: Sirianni, have you thought about benching Jalen Hurts?

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Speaker 5: I think it is a fair question to ask, and I think it's fair to answer it the way Sirianni. Did you know?

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Speaker 9: The thing about Philadelphia is there's not only a very high standard, but there's a track record of backup quarterbacks playing really well. You know, the first time they ever won a Super Bowl was their backup quarterback. Now that was because Carson Wentz got hurt, but Nick Foles went in there and led them to.

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Speaker 5: The super Bowl.

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Speaker 9: So I think there are going to be people there that have said, Okay, it's been four or five games now for Hurts where he hasn't played well. Tanner McKee has lit it up every time he's got an opportunity. This is the window for the Eagles. This is where they have the great receivers, the great tight end, the great running back, the awesome defense, the offensive line. This is the window and maybe McKee gives him a better chance to win.

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Speaker 5: I don't believe that.

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Speaker 9: I highly doubt they would bench Jalen Hurts for a million different reasons. But I do think, you know, if Hurts has two more games in a row where he has five turnovers, you know, then it might be a more legitimate question. I don't think that's gonna happen. He typically doesn't turn it over. And I had a much different takeaway dan from that game Monday night to everybody else. I mean, Hurts had five turnovers. AJ Brown had two or three drops. They had a couple of devastating penalties, one took a touchdown off the board. Jake Elliott misses a forty eight yard field goal. If any one of those things doesn't happen, they still win the game. So they would have won a game at the LA Chargers, a good team with a quarterback having four turnovers, you know, they moved it better. Hurts through for two point forty, could have been three hundred. Saquan ran for one to twenty. I actually came away from that game better than I did against the Bears and the Cowboys, when for six quarters they couldn't do anything offensively. You know, turnovers are high variants. They're not gonna happen all the time. Just not being able to move the ball at all because you can't do anything on offense. That would be more concern to me than sort of a flute game where the quarterback has a bunch of turnovers.

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Speaker 2: More important game Lions Rams, Packers, Broncos, Patriots, Bills.

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Speaker 9: So the most important of those three games in terms of a team making the playoffs is Lions Rams. The Lions really need to win that game to make the playoffs and have a chance. I think in terms of the Super Bowl, I'll say probably the Patriots and the Bills. You know, if the Patriots win that, man, they got a great chance to be the number one seed. Two home games in New England. And I'll tell you the difference in my mind, Dan, between the Broncos and the Patriots. The Broncos are a good team, winning close games, really good defense. The Patriots have an MVP caliber quarterback. You know, he hasn't done it in the postseason yet, but if you're talking about winning big games in the postseason, I don't have a lot of doubt about Drake May right now, and I think they would be the favorite in my mind, if they're the number one seed for just Drake May to play well in two home playoff.

00:28:42
Speaker 5: Games, go to the super Bowl. Now, if they lose.

00:28:44
Speaker 9: This one to the Bills, then it's gonna be a battle just to win the AFC East, and that's gonna leave some doubt about whether or not Drake May and the Patriots are ready to beat these type of teams in the postseason.

00:28:59
Speaker 2: Well, Vegas is already saying that they doubt the Patriots and they doubt the Broncos. Yeah, because Buffalo Road team favored, Packers road team favored.

00:29:11
Speaker 9: And I think so much of that is just the quarterback and because the Broncos and Patriots have no recent playoff pedigree. You know, I always wonder about stuff like that. Dan is like, how much of that is the pros, you know, the guys like Steve Ezick on my even Money betting podcast, And how much of that is just the public saying I don't care what I'm taking Jordan Love and the Packers over bo Nicks and the Broncos, or I don't care what their record is, I'm taking Josh Allen and the Bills over Drake May. I think if you look at it, people talk about public and non public teams. When I look at the betting line, a lot of times it feels like people are just betting on quarterbacks. I mean, the Chiefs are last I checked, five and a half point favorites over the Chargers. Despite all evidence to the contrary. People are still going to put the money on Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs.

00:30:07
Speaker 2: I would too, but you're right, there's only a couple of quarterbacks. And speaking of quarterbacks, Joe Burrow got dark on a Wednesday with that press conference and what he was saying, and I brought it up in the moment, it felt like you get to that Andrew Luck. And Andrew Luck was twenty nine. Joe Burrow just turned twenty nine, and all of a sudden, what you've done for most of your life you're not enjoying anymore.

00:30:33
Speaker 3: And do I want to continue to do this?

00:30:35
Speaker 2: And all the injuries and the rehab and you know, not being in big games anymore. What do you take away from that in the moment, something or something larger?

00:30:49
Speaker 5: Multiple things.

00:30:50
Speaker 9: I would say number one is Joe Burrow has always struck me as a guy that absolutely loves football, like loves it, So it's a little bit startling to hear him talk like that, and I would say unexpected, you know, I will say it's rehabbing is not fun and losing is not fun. So I do think that there's a point where you say, Okay, I'm getting the crap beat out of me. I've already made plenty of money, we're losing. I don't want to have injuries that really adversely affect the rest of my life. Those are all possibilities, Dan, I tend to think that Burrow would want to go somewhere else or force his way out of Cincinnati before he would retire. Now that's a tough organization to force your way out of. Obviously, we've seen it happen before with Carson Palmer, and maybe he's just mentally beat down. But I think the Andrew Luck thing was more of this physical and mental exhaustion. I don't get the sense that Burrow's there yet. I think he'd probably rather go somewhere else and see what it's like somewhere else before where he would hang him up.

00:32:02
Speaker 2: He loves football because he came back, he rehabbed to get back to this point in the season. Yeah, that tells you an awful lot about him. But then that, you know, contrasts that with the way he sounded on Wednesday. That sound like somebody who was beaten and broken, and you know, if they win that game against Buffalo, is he having fun still? It was you throw two interceptions and you lose in Buffalo, and what am I doing here?

00:32:32
Speaker 5: Every aspect of it was strange. Maybe he's just having a bad day. I mean.

00:32:35
Speaker 9: Someone asked if it was team related to personal He said all the above. You know, you never know what's going on with guys, you know, behind the scenes or personal or whatever. It's hard to extrapolate too much from it unless he actually spells it out. And maybe there will be reports after the season that he's unhappy looking to move. It's funny because one of the first things I read prepping for you know, this game on Sunday was the Jets should do whatever they can to call the Bengals and try to trade for Joe Burrow.

00:33:06
Speaker 5: You know, and by the way, they absolutely should.

00:33:10
Speaker 9: I mean, they should call the Bengals and say, hey, is he really that man?

00:33:15
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow feels bad enough. That's not that's not fairer and you can't go. Hey, I got good news. We're gonna send you to the Jets. Do you love football now a little bit more?

00:33:28
Speaker 9: Hey, maybe he could be the one to break this this playoff street for the Jets.

00:33:31
Speaker 2: He'll be in the booth for the Jets and Jags. Make sure you tune in early because we want to see you when you welcome us into the game. Right, you get your camera time.

00:33:41
Speaker 9: That's a terrific point, Dan. For one o'clock games, we do our on camera open at twelve fifty three, yep, and then there's like a commercial and then so I just don't I know everybody right now is putting the note in their phone at one o'clock to see me on TV. Put it in for twelve fifty My mom and or wife are devastated when they forget about that. They literally, Dan, only watched the first two minutes of the game to see me on camera.

00:34:12
Speaker 5: You did a great job. The game didn't start yet.

00:34:18
Speaker 3: That's all I'm going to be watching as well, just to let you know.

00:34:21
Speaker 9: Listen, I need to talk to the folks at CBS and the analytics folks.

00:34:25
Speaker 5: I'm thinking that the ratings, Oh yeah, for that.

00:34:28
Speaker 9: Two minutes when I'm on camera twelve fifty three to twelve fifty five. I mean that's probably why they put me on the New York market this week.

00:34:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, your meat Candy, I mean you're there everybody. Everybody wants to see you. Thanks for joining us, Bud, have a great weekend.

00:34:42
Speaker 5: Of course, man Sea.

00:34:43
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00:35:00
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00:35:11
Speaker 2: It's Army versus Navy. Army is six point underdog there that'll be played in Baltimore. It's gonna be chilli there, Lions at the Rams. Matthew Stafford is the current favorite to win the MVP. Jamiir Gibbs is the seventh NFL player to have fifteen hundred yards from scrimmage, thirteen touchdowns, three receiving touchdowns through the first thirteen games of the season.

00:35:40
Speaker 3: The last to do that a former Rams running back Paul Stephen Jackson.

00:35:49
Speaker 2: Todd Gurley, Oh so Manly, so Burly Bills at the Patriots. The Bills are one and a half point favorites. It started at four and a half. That's a big swing. Packers at the Broncos, both teams allowing under twenty points per game. And then also Basketball Spurs in the Thunder is Wemby back coming back? Maybe this weekend for this game? The Thunder are twenty four and one, the Spurs are seventeen and seven. Man, how about Stefan Castle his last outing put up some big numbers there, So SGA against Wemby. That'll be sliding into the weekend. Brought to you by the great folks at King Sawaiian. Make that watch part of your tailgate special. Pick up a pack of Kings Hawaiian this weekend. Who had the best week in sports? Todd, I'll start with you.

00:36:46
Speaker 4: I'm going with Fernando Mendoza takes down Ohio State. Now they're the number one team, they win the Big Ten and he'll be getting a special trophy tomorrow night.

00:36:53
Speaker 3: So it's all good for Fernando Seaton.

00:36:56
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm actually gonna say Indiana Hoosiers football at the best week. They beat Ohio State, picked up the first Big Ten title in a very very long time, that the number one seed in the College Football Playoff, their quarterback is about.

00:37:09
Speaker 3: To win the Heisman.

00:37:11
Speaker 8: I don't know how you have a better week than that, especially if you're Indiana Marvin.

00:37:15
Speaker 5: Make it three for three.

00:37:16
Speaker 6: Indiana football won the Big Ten men those Heisman winner tomorrow night, number one seed in the college football playoffs.

00:37:22
Speaker 7: Paul, I have to call it audible. Now all mine are taken. I will go for the second week in a row. Pat Fitzgerald at Michigan State's the chaos across the state is probably going to help him.

00:37:32
Speaker 5: They got a four.

00:37:33
Speaker 7: Hundred million, four hundred and one million dollar donation for the athletic department. Michigan State needed a regroup and not that they wanted what happened at Michigan happened, but it helps them.

00:37:44
Speaker 2: But I wonder if that job had been open a month ago. Is Pat Fitzgerald, former Northwestern coach, going to be one of the guys on the short list? There would Matt Campbell have taken that job over Penn State. Yeah, there's still a lot unfolding at Michigan here, but you know that's part of the off Off the field. They still got to get a coach. So, yes, you got drama there. Now you've got to get a coach now, and the question is can you get a coach? Is that coach coaching in the playoffs? Which makes it trickier because you've got the transfer portal.

00:38:25
Speaker 3: I do have the lines.

00:38:27
Speaker 2: Alabama is a one and a half point favorite at Oklahoma, Miami is a three and a half point underdog at Texas, A and M. Tulane is a seventeen and a half point underdog at Old Miss. James Madison a twenty one and a half point underdog at Oregon.

00:38:43
Speaker 3: Dave and Charleston, Good morning, Dave. What's on your mind today?

00:38:49
Speaker 5: Hey Dave?

00:38:53
Speaker 3: Bye, Dave. Chris in California, Hi Chris.

00:38:59
Speaker 11: Hey Dan? Are taking my call?

00:39:00
Speaker 3: Yeah?

00:39:01
Speaker 11: Hey, So I got a couple of things. But I want to do a pile of the face bet with Toddy. But first off, I came across a Instagram reel that Seaton put out a few weeks back, and it was his son about his soccer, you know, growing up playing soccer and he was going to Europe and I just wanted to say, you know, congratulations Seaton, and that's so exciting for your family. And it's really cool that you put that reel out because I had no idea. So hopefully you can keep us up to date on that. And then neadhead James Vanderbeek. Okay, first off, the reason the Packers are favored is because we you hear, that's hot, that's how you're for your We we have just as good a defense as Denver does, and we're gonna throw all over that team. I hate to say it. So that being said, my pie of the face that was hot? Is they straight up Packers beat Denver. I'll take a pie of the face if if we lose, and if we win, I want you to not have to give Damn his pie of the face. So it's a win win for everyone.

00:40:13
Speaker 2: Oh okay, all right, So then I would win. If the Packers win, you would win, but I wouldn't have to take a pie of the face.

00:40:23
Speaker 3: But then you do have a bet with somebody.

00:40:25
Speaker 4: Do you already have a straight up Bronco Packer?

00:40:28
Speaker 2: Well, would you take that bet that I'm removed from getting a pile of the face with our bet on the Raiders and the Broncos.

00:40:35
Speaker 3: Straight up with the Packers and the Broncos.

00:40:37
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, we have some fun with that.

00:40:39
Speaker 2: Go Pack, go, go Pack go.

00:40:44
Speaker 3: That's the that's their chant ton.

00:40:47
Speaker 9: Yeah.

00:40:47
Speaker 4: I think we're hopefully we'll be mile high saluting all over the Packers. We we the denver Borough number eleven in a row.

00:40:54
Speaker 5: Hopefully. Wow, we.

00:40:57
Speaker 3: Most must win game of the weekend.

00:40:59
Speaker 5: Have that for you?

00:40:59
Speaker 2: Come out up new poll question and Shaq will stop by as well. Fritzie Seaton, Marv Paulie, yours truly in the b RGS Final Hour on a meet Friday after this