Tarik Skubal on trade rumors, Cy Young W, Postseason retrospective

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Speaker 1: Todd bother boy Buster Only tweeted this in the morning from a high ranking executive on the Tigers strategy regarding Trek Scooble, they could wait and be pretty confident they'll get as much in trade return at the deadline next summer as they would now, assuming there's no injury. He's got that kind of impact. Now, Buster added, how it depends where the Tigers are around that time period. And that's the obvious one here is people can say the value is going to be similar. I agree with that. If the Tigers were going to trade him at the deadline, I think he would hold just as much value because he'd be going to a contender for the stretch run and he could be the difference between a team winning a World Series and not. But if you're Detroit and you're sniffing playoff range, you're gonna trade him. That's the thing. If you're moving him, it's got to be now. Chances are the Tigers are going to be contenders this season for a playoff spot.

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Speaker 2: You can't trade him.

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Speaker 1: If you're holding a wild card, you're going to eight Trek's scouble down the stretch.

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Speaker 3: No, not at all. And like they trade him. It's pretty much over for them.

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Speaker 1: Right, but also not just for them in their season. What about for your fans? Hey, guys, we rebuilt for a while, We've had a nice little two year run of the postseason. Now we're in position for a playoff spot again. Who rugged you trading Scooble. That doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 2: You can't do that.

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Speaker 4: It's a hard decision you have to do.

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Speaker 1: If you're gonna do it, you have to do it in the off season. If you're if you're a team that's wishy washy, or you might not be good, you can wait. They can't wait. They're gonna be good.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I would say they're gonna be one of those better teams next year. So yes, of course you're not gonna trade them if they're have in a playoff hunt or or one of the better teams in the division, whatever, what have you. If they're gonna be in the playoffs, it's like, oh, shoot, maybe we should have traded on them. I mean, the school, but like that much will come back.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't I don't see that. But yeah, I think Buster has has a point here. It's now would probably be the best time to do it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're going to do it.

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Speaker 4: If you're going to do it.

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Speaker 1: Otherwise, here's the thing, Kratz, you're just holding on to him and you're getting the compensation pick after the season ends if you guys don't come to terms on money, which he's definitely going to hit free agency if he stays with the Tigers.

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Speaker 2: And it's funny we're talking about him.

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Speaker 1: He's going to join us in like forty five minutes or less actually on the show. So we'll get into a little bit of this. Excited to have Trek join us on the show. We've talked to him multiple times here on FT and also, oh, we have a little something prepared for him before we introduce him. Okay, live studio audience today. Wow, Trek scooble back to backside, young award winner joining us right now.

00:02:56
Speaker 2: Happy birthday man, thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 5: How you doing I'm doing well, Thank you, thank you. Birthdays aren't cool anymore, you know, they're not really cool, especially in this sport. You don't want to get older, Not true, Not true when.

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Speaker 3: You're like thirty, forty fifty. Now, when you hit the thirty range, the zeros are what counts am I.

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Speaker 2: Do you like the zeros?

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Speaker 4: I don't. I don't want the zeros.

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Speaker 3: But when the zero hits after after you know, twenties, when it hits thirty, then after that until it hits another zero. But I just turned whit didn't turn? I turned thirty nine last year. It's like thirty nine. Who cares about thirty nine?

00:03:31
Speaker 1: Well that you're talking to twenty nine right here? But okay, any plans, No, I feel like.

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Speaker 5: I've been doing a lot recently, so probably just gonna make dinner at home. I think my wife will make some tacos or something like that and maybe open a bottle of wine. That's it cool?

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Speaker 6: Is that your go to? Does she does she ask you?

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Speaker 4: Do?

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Speaker 6: I feel like wives, wives, like they pretty much do so much for you during the season that when it's the off season, it's like, alright, bro, like relax, Like we're gonna go out. Like does she ask you what you want for your birthday?

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Speaker 5: She did, and I kind of gave her a like, Hey, I'm kind of tired of let's just hang out at home and getting bed early. You know, I feel like I've been traveling and doing stuff and let's just hang out, make dinner at home and do it that way.

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Speaker 6: Oh, go ahead, No, No, is it tiring? Like you're the Sion? You want to Sion again? Obviously congratulations, but is it tiring? Because I heard Ryan Howard talked about Ryan Howard won the MVP and he goes, Dude, you get invited to every Tom Dick and Harry's like event, like, hey, come on, come and speak here. And then you still got the regular ones. You still got the one you're going to see at the BBWA, we still got you know, you were just at the MOB Awards. Does it get tiring or now that's your second year you're like, I know which ones to do and which ones not to Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I think what happened was I mean, you go to Vegas, you win the cy Young Wednesday, and go out to eat and more extracurricular stuff, right, and you wake up the next day in kind of tough shape, and then you have the MLB Award show and then you go out after that and enjoy that night. And then one of my buddies' bachelor party was back in Scottsdale Friday and Saturday, so it was like four days of a lot of fun but at the same time, you kind of pay for it on the back end, you know, especially like that Monday that came around. I was hurt, and then I went up to Portland to do some stuff with Nike and just got back yesterday, and I'm like, hey, I'm I'm good for a little bit.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 5: It just so happens to be my birthday today, But it's like I've done enough celebrating the last week to where I don't need to celebrate a birthday alight.

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Speaker 4: Let me ask you this out and shout out, Craig about how.

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Speaker 3: Cool, how cool was that first off and how did you hit them? Because I struggled. I did good on one front, nine did bad. I'm back.

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Speaker 4: I was back and forth with you couldn't use your driver. That's my problem.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, I mean, I don't. That course is beautiful, like it's I mean, it's the nicest. I don't know if golf gets much nicer than that course, right, Like, I mean, I'm sure there can be some like elevated tea boxes to make it maybe look, you know, more beautiful, but in terms of just nice golf, like that course has got to be up there or hold its own with every other course in the world. Like I just that's just my opinion on it. But it's tight and it's it's kind of target golf, and the greens are quick, so if you spray it like I do, it's not very conducive.

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Speaker 4: To my style. But too.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Trek, I want to ask you about the Cy Young Awards. So leading up to the announcement, did you kind of feel like you had it in the bag or like genuinely did you feel like, all right, I look at the other numbers, the other colleagues in the sport that had great years, but I feel like I've got this or were you really sitting there like I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think. I mean, I I knew I had a good year. Obviously, Crochet had a hell of a year two. I mean that's kind of who I thought the race was between was us two And you can make an argument either way. So it's not like I knew I had it in the bag, but I kind of figured I was going to win, you know, when the regular season ended, I was like, Okay, I think that just accomplished my second cy Young Award. But I mean Crochet what he had a hell of a season. I mean, you what he was able to accomplish in Boston and Fenway. They just traded for him, extended him, kind of made him the face of that rotation and kind of the face of the team too. What he was able to do is nothing short of very impressive. And he's gonna, you know what we have in this battle, I think for the next however many years we're doing it and on the field. So he's a great, great player. He's got some of my favorite stuff. I bet he has the best stuff in the big league. It's just pure stuff.

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Speaker 4: Side.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, he's a he's a great player.

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Speaker 6: That was actually what I was going to ask you, because big leige players now is never at your level, but we're always looking at other big league players, like man I wish I could you know, have that swing path. Is there something that you look at Crochet and you're like, man I wish I had this of his?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, his like slider sweeper thing. I don't know what, I don't know what he calls it, but it's like the it's that eighty four to eighty six mone hour slider that's got a ton of depth and a ton of glove side movement. That'd be the easiest pitch for me to add into my arsenal. You know, I don't have a pitch that does that. And my slider's hard. It's you know, anywhere from ninety to ninety two. If I had a breaking ball at eighty four to eighty six lefties, I think, I mean that with that weapon the lefties, you can't even put a lefty in the lineup against Crochet, You really can't. What's the way he throws a fastball and a slider, But yeah, I mean our fastballs are pretty similar. I actually love his change up. He doesn't throw out a time, but I love his change up. And the reason he doesn't throw a change up is because he has a really good slider. So and he's got a cutter too. He kind of has a cutter that plays like my slider. And then he's got the good breaking ball. So I mean, that's the one that I would I would add for sure is that, like if he wants to call it a sweeper, we call it a sweeper. It's kind of like that hard slurve. It's it's really really good.

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Speaker 3: Talking about pitch election and throwing pitchers. It seemed like this year, so you significantly went to the fastball and change up against lefties. Was there a cognizant effort of doing that or is that just a feel kind of thing. It was like, ah, well, I'm feeling this today, I'm gonna throw that. But it just seemed like a little bit more this year it worked well, yeah.

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Speaker 5: I think you know, in years past, there's always stuff you look at at end of seasons and stuff you want to you know, get better at. And for me, lefties striking out lefties. It's gonna sound weird, but I don't strike out lefties at the same rate I strike out righties like I just I punch out righties more. And that's because I think might change it more to righty. So we you know, I sat down with the team, our pitching coach, catchers and stuff and develop a plan to get lefties to punch out when I need him to, because they weren't slugging and there wasn't a ton of damage. But there's a lot of ground balls, and in certain situations you can't have a ground ball, you know, with a runner of third base and less than two outs, you have to be able to strike guys out. So as easy as it is to go sink or slider to lefties and just kind of get to the next hitter. There are certain scenarios where you know, Bellinger's in the box and he's a guy that doesn't punch against lefties, but I got to figure out how to punch belly with a run around third, and that was kind of upping force him and change up usage. I think that's that's kind of that's what I get missed to righty's and that's what I get missed to lefties. But it's hard not to fall in love with sinker slider when you know there's no damage and all they do is hit it into the ground. So like the worst thing that can happen is a single or maybe a down the line double or something like that. But you do need to be able to punch out left and adults. And that's kind of where the change up, the out take and change up usage was. Was uncomfortable thrown into lefties and they miss it and it kind of plays up. So that's why I kind of leaned on that pitch a little more this year.

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Speaker 6: I have so many questions for you watching your games in the playoffs, like different stuff from the playoffs, Like, I haven't seen anybody on the losing team that's dominated as much as you have. I mean, I'm not saying that in any other way than a compliment. Like when your team wins the World Series, it will be because you and your team have won the whole way, because you just have carried the Tigers the last two years. So I want to congratulate you for that. But I want to go directly to Game five. Tell me if I'm wrong, but I think you went six innings with thirteen punchies and.

00:11:45
Speaker 5: Gave up one run? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: One?

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Speaker 6: Was it tough to sit there then for nine more innings and watch this team? Were you like were you trying to like move your shoulder around like that's another inning? Like like do you do you go back and do you think? Not second guessing, but do you think man if I had ten strikeouts but gone eight innings, would that have helped you?

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Speaker 4: Know?

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Speaker 6: What's your mindset in that moment? But also thinking about that game afterwards and since.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that game was, I mean it was. It was one of the greatest games in postseason history. Really in a winner go home Game five, Game seven type scenario, obviously we know runs are at a premium, especially in a game five game, especially against the manners. So I'm trying to do what I can to keep our team in it and then just and limit runs with the run that I gave up was a frustrating run because it was like a kind of like a flare down the left field line double and Josh Naylor, being the guy that he is, he's I mean, he's a great baseball player. He knows it's loud. Steals third and the next one's f eight and we're down one zero in like the fourth inning or so. So I'm just trying to keep the game where it's at. And however I get outside get out. So obviously the strikeout was you know, my stuff was good that day, so the pitch coown's going to get up, you know, kind of regardless of what I was trying to do. That's and in the postseason, like you can't really pitch. I mean, you're pitching the contact, but at any point guys are gonna jump in and that could be the difference in the game, you know, just because every run is magnified, every out is magnified. So just trying to keep the game where it is and obviously, I think the strikeout was that. I mean, if you look at Game one against Cleveland, I also think I struck out fourteen, but I was able to pitch in the eighth just because they were really efficient strikeouts. And I mean the Manners are a good team. They slug, They really do slug. They had, you know, top five guys with twenty plus bombs, two with fifty plus. It's like that, I mean any at any point they can run the ball out of the yard. So just knowing the lineup, knowing the game, knowing the situation, knowing runs or at a premium, you just try to grind as best you can and every out it's it's even more draining than a regular season out. You know, one out the postseason feels like an inning in the regular season, just based on how meaningful all the game is. But yeah, I mean later later into that game, it's like the eleventh inning, I had kind of come down from the adrenaline and stuff, and I'm in the dugout and I'm like, I wonder if they'd let me re enter this game, or if there's some little changes that we could to use, just because it's been like, I mean, this game was so long. There's two seventh inning stretches during the game. It was I mean it was a ton of fun. Obviously we come out on the wrong side of it, but just watching that game and living that game, it was it was almost worse. It was worse just watching it than playing in it, you know, just because you have no say or any control of what's going on out there.

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Speaker 6: All right, because you brought that up, I'm gonna jump ahead to my other question and get back to the Guardians question. My question is did you watch the World Series?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Did you see what Yamamoto did and could you have done that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I mean that's what he did. I mean not only like just throwing back to back days, but also the performances, like the performance and the outings that he strung together were incredible all postseason long.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 5: Without that guy, I don't they don't win the World Series, you know. And I would love to sit here and say I'd be ready to go, you know, game one against Cleveland and Game three. I was ready to go Game three, you know, I was like, hey, I'm good to pitch if we need it. But back to back, I mean, in that situation, you put me in his shoes. I'm gonna I'm gonna argue as best I can to be out there and then be thrown in that situation for sure, whether those decisions are made, you know, you got to look out for the health of players too. I don't know. I would love to be in that situation though, and I know I would do everything I could to petition my way into the game. They I mean, they needed him obviously the game goes into extras and stuff, But I can't see myself sitting on the side and not at least giving it a go. I don't know. The impressive part was it wasn't just back to back. His stuff was as good as it was the day before, you know. And I'm like, if I throw one hundred pitches the next day, I don't know if I'm going to be ninety seven to one hundred. You know, I could get out there and maybe throw ninety two ninety four, But he was ninety five to ninety eight coming out ninety five to ninety eight with his splitter. That's great. Yeah, I mean, that was incredibly impressive. I would love to be in that situation to to petition to be able to go out there and pitch. Just see what happened that in that role? Man it game seven. Uh, you got nothing to lose, just give it me.

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Speaker 6: Got Yeah, for sure, you got a bunch of You got a bunch of bachelor parties and golf outings to do in the offseason. That's the only thing you got to do some put some ice on it and keep going. I'll take you back to the Cleveland game. And because Aj' is not on here, I'm sure sure he would ask you the flip between the legs was the fact that you flipped between the legs and it became an air which led to another dribbler, which led to another dribbler. What was more distracting to come back from the fact that they weren't hitting you but they were still scoring runs, or the fact that you made that play and you were like you even how I don't know if you have a huge glove or what it is, but you always hold your glove one certain way, and you were like, well was I doing? Like how did you recoup? How did you regroup after that play in such a big moment?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I think I mean that whole inning was very not one ball was hit to the infield dirt, which is incredible, and they scored two runs, which is insane too. It's just the game of baseball. That's just you know, that's baseball. But I mean that play, you're just trying to get an out any way you can and they end up throwing. I think they tried to bunt four times in a row, four at bats in a row. That and obviously the Rye situation happens that inning too, and that was probably the most I don't know if like rattling experience, but just like you don't even feel like you're playing the game anymore. It's like you get when when you see something happen like that live, and especially when you feel responsible for it. It it makes the game not as much about playing baseball, but it kind of humanizes it in a way to where it's like, hey, is this guy gonna be okay? Like in life, not just the game of Baseball's he actually gonna be okay? And I think that was probably the toughest part of that inning, was just like I have no idea what's going on with him. He gives the thumbs up, but like, is he really okay? Especially when you talk about like that part of the face, Like I mean, you're talking about if it hits him somewhere different, like it he could go blind in one eye and now it's sudden his career is over and I have to live with that the rest of my life. So that that was one of those situations that was pretty tough for me as far as between the legs. I mean, I've tried it twice and it hasn't worked twice, And when you're out there competing, you're like, hey, don't do that again. But I might do it again, and AJ's not going to be a fan of that. He's like, hey, because I did it in Miami. He's like, hey, never do that again. And I was like, yeah, like no doubt if it worked it it would have worked. If it doesn't, I'm not going to do that again. And then you get that situation and you do it again. So yeah, I I've always you know, I was talking to torqu and like I did third times at time, It's got to work one of these times. So yeah, I mean he was trying to make it out. But that whole inning was was was wild for sure.

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Speaker 4: Definitely.

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Speaker 3: My question to you is you had a little interaction with with a fan the other day, Rock and I think it was a white Yankee had if I recall remember that video, the guy came up to you asking me to sign it. We're showing right now. I'm curious, you know, the Yankee guy. I'm curious why you just wouldn't just sign it. Isn't that something?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know. If I'm not trying in any hat. That's not a Detroit hat. It just so happened to be that was a Yankee hat. I'm like, you got nothing else on you, you know, It's just I don't know, It's uh, it was a funny interaction too. I mean that guy took it well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And you can see all these fans they want you to come to their team, and you hear all these rumors and speculations going on, and it's got to be hard.

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Speaker 4: You know, you're a really good picture.

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, you know, every other day it seemed like there's a trade talk about you going somewhere else. Man, it's got to play a little bit in your mind about this whole scenario.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no doubt. I think with the way social media is, it's hard not to see things about yourself especially when it's talking about trades and kind of all those hypotheticals. But you know, at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter. It's not going to impact who I am day to day basis. It's not going to impact, you know, the way I'm gonna work out or the way I'm gonna throw or prepare to get my body ready to go for another season. So it's it's all out of my control, you see it. I think as a player, you don't really like, I mean, unless you want to be traded, but like that's a whole different situation. But it's not like I want to be traded, So it is it does kind of like, you know, hey, why am I in this? Why am I in these conversations to begin with? But at the end of the day, it doesn't It doesn't really impact anything that I'm going to do day to day, and I try to just stay off of it and I look at it. I mean, that's kind of how I've handled it at the trade deadlines in years past, and it seems to work for me.

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Speaker 6: Who does it bother the most? Because like, I'm sure there's family that they read it and I remember telling and I know Todd said it like family, stay off of Twitter, stay off of the and it's all that stuff. Who is the toughest time with it?

00:22:03
Speaker 5: Your wife?

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Speaker 6: Family, Like, and do you have to tell them? Don't talk to me about it. I just saw it on Twitter. Can't even go on Twitter without you know, seeing anything about it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think my wife gets it. I think that she's pretty good about it. I think it's probably like my mom and my dad like, hey, where are you gonna play next year? It's like I'm a I'm a tiger. That's kind of how you guys will find out at the same time I find out if I'm getting actually traded. So I'm like, don't look into any of the stuff that you see. Definitely, don't comment, don't don't take to social media and say anything. Please, don't make a story out of nothing. So it's probably my family more so than me. But my wife gets it. You know, my wife gets it. She's you know, there's not a ton of factor truth behind any of these things, especially I mean even contract stuff. It's like I don't really know where they come up with these numbers or that narrative they create these NARRAI is it's I mean, it's part of the media job.

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Speaker 3: Though.

00:23:02
Speaker 4: I get it.

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Speaker 5: I mean I get it. But if you're you know, in my circle, you know that that's kind of how we handle things, or how I'm going to handle things.

00:23:13
Speaker 1: It's content, and you know, the next thing that pops up, it runs wild. People love to follow it, and it's annoying, of course for you to be part of it because it involves your name, but for everyone else, it's like it keeps baseball at the forefront, you know, two hours a day.

00:23:29
Speaker 4: But you know, I get it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's it's the media's job to create narratives and to create content for for baseball. I get it. I'm not gonna sit here and complain, but it's just not there's not a ton I get it. At the end of the day, I get it. It's it's the job of the game. And yeah, I'm completely on board with it.

00:23:53
Speaker 1: All right, So let me ask you a question about another picture in the big who actually just got traded because they did bring up your name the other day. It's not like the very beginning of your career was perfection. We've gone over that, right, You weren't a top draft pick. You dealt with some injuries earlier in your career.

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Speaker 2: Now look at you.

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Speaker 1: So we've been backing up a guy like Grayson Rodriguez who gets traded from the Orioles. He's twenty six years old. You've seen him pitch and his stuff. We haven't seen him a ton yet. Right, He's given us two seasons like one hundred and twenty istionings each and then he missed this past season. We have him on the show tomorrow. He's got a big personality to what would your advice be to someone like that? And also for fans to understand, you know how it can sometimes take some time to figure out things and also just figure out your body. For someone like grayce And who said he had been dealing with I think it was some type of debrim in or chips or something. He just got cleaned up and it had been a problem for three four years.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think his stuff is definitely, I mean, it's as good as it gets in this game, right, there's not you know, it's ninety six to one hundred. It's a good change up, it's a good slider. I think he's got a bigger break ball too. He might even have two different versions of the heater. But I mean my advice is just figure out a routine for him that works to keep him on the field, you know. And that's that's what changed my career was you know, I had a rough start to my career. I pitched, I was healthy until twenty twenty two. I pitched, but I just wasn't really like my routine wasn't really me. I guess I felt like I was a little too run down on every day I pitched, or you know, I was probably worried about a lot of the wrong things, or you know, I might have worked too hard, you know, to where your body's kind of always in the red. You never feel like ready to go, or you feel tired earlier into games and you should be. So that's something that when I got hurt came back rehab my routine, I kind of changed a lot of things and changed when I work out, changed you know, how I throw throwing programs, all that stuff, ploball stuff, and you know, tinkered with things through that process of when those eleven months were huge for me and established a really good routine. And now that I've been on the field the last two and a half years. I mean, you can argue that, like it's been the most productive pitcher in baseball the last two and a half seasons coming back from injuries. So I think this the routine matters a ton. You know, figuring out your body matters a ton, and and hopefully you know the bones first. Stuff that he's dealing with right now is a quick fix and you can kind of hammer back your routine and get back to feeling normal and healthy. And when he's healthy and pitching, I think his stuff is plenty fine. So you know that he's going to be a good pitcher in this game, you know when he's on the field, And I think that that's what matters. At least that would be my advice is figure out what works for you treatment wise, routine wise, nutrition wise, and just play the game, because when you're out there on the mound, the stuff is as good as it gets in the big leagues.

00:26:52
Speaker 1: I'm with you. Yeah, good stuff, man, Well, good catching up. We appreciate it. Congrats again, Happy birthday, Congrats on back to back SIG Awards. Enjoy a little downtime and rest in the holidays and the whole deal. Uh and then yeah, we'll catch in in January at the awards.

00:27:08
Speaker 5: Yes, sir, I appreciate you, guys.

00:27:09
Speaker 2: I felt like this was fitting for today.

00:27:11
Speaker 1: So we write for the Roar blog, which you can look up and we'll post a link on some socials. We wrote building the perfect MLB starting Pitcher And the face of this article is the guy that we just spoke to, and that's Trek Scouble. Okay, we went off stuff Plus and we wrote a little bit about the top pitches by stuff Plus indicate just like best pitch stuff wise right, treks Google, best fastball, Trek's Google best change up. You got those two right off the jump. Okay, best sweeper Garrett Crochet for sure, or slider which he just said he did. Best curveball by stuff Plus was Framber Baldees and best location plus hitting his spots. I don't know if you guys saw down on the sheet already, correct.

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Speaker 6: Chaz Zarta was on there.

00:28:02
Speaker 4: Really Yeah.

00:28:03
Speaker 1: Interesting, So there's your there's your perfect picture from twenty twenty five. If you're going off that's that. I know it's something only sat out there, but it's a good one. It's more modern statistic. We like it, and you can check out that article on the Roar blog, part of the bet MGM blog that we contribute to. It's called building the Perfect MLB Starting Picture. We took starting pictures so we didn't look at pitches from relievers.

00:28:26
Speaker 6: You know what else, it does the same thing we're talking about Grayson Rodriguez this whole time.

00:28:31
Speaker 5: They're monsters.

00:28:32
Speaker 6: I guess Hazel's Zardo's not that as big, but yeah, they're the mom stars. Like Crochet is a avatar scooball, I mean, aj sat next to him, He's.

00:28:45
Speaker 4: Like, good night. This is a big dude. That's the other thing that's, oh my god.

00:28:52
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't we don't need we don't.

00:28:55
Speaker 5: We don't need that.

00:28:56
Speaker 6: That's that's I'm so glad I don't hit anymore. But like that's when we talk about like eyes have potential and like could be elite pitchers. Size matters, it does.

00:29:05
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, mass equals gas Ce Sabathio.

00:29:09
Speaker 1: M h Fan Ravaldas ain't small. He's a big boy too, I don't. I mean he's not as tall as.

00:29:15
Speaker 4: Tall, but he's he's small, a big doll.

00:29:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got he's got to build.

00:29:23
Speaker 1: I think my guess is he's probably like six feet Yeah, he's listed five eleven to thirty.

00:29:30
Speaker 4: Whoa, that's fair Jesus.

00:29:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's up for grabs. He's a free agent.

00:29:38
Speaker 1: We're swinging it around looking at betem jam futures for the American League representative in the World Series in twenty twenty six. A lot of these numbers are are not favorable enough for me to dip my toes in Tigers at twelve to one odds.

00:29:54
Speaker 4: That's that's just it's not.

00:29:56
Speaker 1: Chunky enough for me, guys, And we'll see what happens, of course with or boy that we just spoke to, Trek Scougle.

00:30:02
Speaker 4: But that's where there's a chance he gets de Yeah, that's where you like. Do I even try.

00:30:08
Speaker 1: If he doesn't. The Tigers are still going to be active this offseason, and I like them. I think this is a good team. This is a top what five.

00:30:16
Speaker 4: Team in the American League. Yeah, thank you, yes, m Yeah, I could see that.

00:30:25
Speaker 2: Tough to put money down like that.

00:30:26
Speaker 1: If when I'm playing futures like this, Kratz, I'm more looking at win total over unders, postseason, et cetera. I mean, you gotta really be bold and go out there and I know you're getting twelve to one.

00:30:37
Speaker 2: That's great, But I think I see.

00:30:40
Speaker 1: I think during the season you'll be able to get numbers, you know, either at that range or even better. Right if they go through a skid, say early on, but you really at that point have Schooble there and they did some things you liked in the offseason, that's the time to pounce.

00:30:53
Speaker 6: For me, for sure, I don't like this number, especially when you sit there in the AL Central where the Guardians came out essentially came out of nowhere and ended up winning the Al Central. Like if I'm looking for value, which I'm looking for if I'm going to be putting anything on futures, just in the AL Central, like give me some of that Royals cash, Like there's to me twelve hundred and twelve to one is not enough right now for me for the Tigers, who have been to the playoffs and really have been one pitcher away in the last two years from making a deeper run. But you know, I think that I think that value because the Royals are still trying to win, and I think you could probably get them at like a I'm not even gonna say a number because I'll probably be wrong, but much much bigger number, talking like twenty five to one or.

00:31:43
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