8 Actors Who Were Told They’d Never Make It In Film + Best Uses of Coffee In Movies + Movie Review: Cherry (Apple+)

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So what I have at the list of eight actors that I found that at one point in their career they were told they just weren't cut out to be an actor, that they would never make it in movies. And the whole reasoning that I came up with this idea is when I was learning about Paul Bettany, who I think I've developed some kind of a man crush now with. I love Paul Bettany for some reason. If you don't know him. He plays Vision in the Avengers movies and now in One Division, which we have both finished and really loved. And while we were watching that, we were wondering how it connected back to the movies, like was he ever supposed to be Vision? And that's when we went back and watched Age Voltron, which is the first time you see Vision. But the thing about Paul Bettany is he was never supposed to be Vision. So I was like, all right, I think there's something here of finding out why, how that happened in his career and in other instances with other actors, what this has happened. So I have eight people and I have ranked them by how much they're worth now, so I'll give you their net worth. So just to know that these people went from at one point being told they would never make it and now ranking them is being the most successful, which I think this is something a lot of people can relate to now, like even me doing podcasts and doing stand up comedy and stuff. Like that. There was really never anybody who told me I couldn't do it, but there was people who kind of discouraged me of like, you don't really talk a whole lot, You're not really in that space to where I could see you doing that, Maybe you should do something else. So I think for me, I feel that sometimes of like you don't always have to have all the characteristics and check all the boxes when it comes to being what other people see like a certain career path, because me, I never thought i'd be in anything where I have to speak because I don't speak a whole lot to people in social situations or just in general, or just in general. When it comes to this podcast, this is where I talked the most, and we do forty five minutes episodes every single week where that's what I do for the entire episode. But if you pick me out of a group when I was in high school, I said maybe four words of the entire year. So you would never expect like that kid could go on to do a podcast. Guys later in life, I think that's how many of you said on our first date to oh the first day, Yeah, that's probably true too, but there you go. Well from a first day barely speaking to now we are happily engaged about to get married. So just because in the very beginning of something you don't think you'll get there, eventually you you can. Don't give up on your dreams. Don't give up on your dreams. That's what this episode is about. That's what I wanted to encourage. So let's start first with Paul Bettany, who has been a part of the Marvel comic universe since two thousand eight, so he was really in this in the very beginning, and he started out as the voice of Jarvis in Iron Man movies, and it was director Paul Favreau who wanted him to be in that, and he was trying to be an actor at the time. He was in a bunch of other movies but was never really a star. And he got that role basically because they were looking for somebody with little to no personality whatsoever. They're like, hey, we need a voice for AI system. I think you would be the perfect for this, which a bit of it is kind of like a slap through the face of like, hey, you have no real personality, I think you would be great at this. But he did a really good job in that and at that time it was never said that he would later play the real life Vision who came an Age of Ultron down the line. So he was just doing the voice of Jarvis and that was his role. Did great at it made some money, and I think the other great part about it is that he did get in so early. That's really what kicked off Marvel was having that big Iron Man movie, which led to all the other movies. But it wasn't until they were making Age of Ultron they were like, Okay, we need somebody to now play Vision. And at that time, Paul Bettany was, you know, still acting and doing other movies, but he was kind of at a low point. He wasn't getting many roles. And there was one meeting in particular where he went to meet with the casting director and this producer of this movie told him that he would never work again in Hollywood. They were like, dude, I think you're done. You're never gonna be in anything again, so you're probably just quit now. And it was after that he left that meeting completely dejected, was sitting on a sidewalk on Sunset Boulevard when he got the call and they were like, hey, we want you to be Vision in the next Avengers movie, and that's huge. And now he's worth un estimated twenty million dollars. So that's amazing that it went from him. I mean, he still had the role and he was still successful in that sense, but he was trying to be an actor. And now he just did the most expensive TV show ever wand Division, and it's going to go on to do a lot more great things. So that is the first one up. You think that's pretty inspiring. Inspiring, that's first one up. Next up we have Mark Ruffalo at number seven. The crazy thing about Mark Ruffalos he said he went on eight hundred auditions before he ever got an acting job. Like, eight hundred auditions is insane. I think after about if I was trying to be an actor, I would say about twenty auditions, I would be done. Yeah, I would not do eight hundred. That's insane. Like, like, I know, people trying to make it in music and trying to go out to Los Angeles could be actors. And it's a really hard thing to break through. And it's hard to have that kind of determination of like being told no and no and no again and again, but knowing that you would someday reach that goal. Like I was talking about earlier, I think with me having the position I am now working as a producer and the writer on the Bobby Bones Show, that was also a thing I kind of had to chase in. That wasn't the first radio job BY went after, Like I interviewed and when after a lot of other radio jobs just to try to get in that I was told non for mainly because I was so quiet. I remember doing like an on air audition for another radio station. It was a sports station, which could you imagine me doing? And I had to They were looking for are sir, And I had to do like an audition table what I would do on the sports show. And I'm not I like football. I'm a fan of the Dallas Cowboys, but aside from that, I don't follow sports. I know a little bit about it. I listened to the Sore Loser's podcast, and I get my knowledge from those guys, which isn't the most reliable source of sports information, and that's the extent of my sports knowledge. So I had to go essentially look up sports stories, read some headlines, and then give a solo podcast as my audition. Needless to say I did not get the job, But that's what happens. You apply for jobs knowing you might not get that one, and you have to keep going it at it again and again and again, just trying to get better and knowing that someday you'll get it. And a lot of people told me, like to take try other jobs, but I was like, no, I see it in my career path that I someday will work for the Bobby Bones show. And it happened. And it's sticking with something like trying so hard to achieve that that I think is when you will have success. So like Mark Ruffalo, I auditioned for a fraction on the job before I got the one I wanted. But that's that's crazy for him, and to know how I mean, also in the Marvel universe and now he is worth an estimated thirty five million dollars, not bad. So that's Mark Ruffalo at number seven. And I think earlier I called him Paul Fabrow. I combined Paul that dude, it's John Fabrow, the director who has directed so many things, and I think it's somebody we greatly under appreciate. And he'll probably be a later episode that I do just in honor of him, but anyway, that's Mark Ruffalo at number seven. Coming in at number six is John ham who actually didn't make it until he was twenty nine years old, basically because he was kind of at a weird point where early on in his career he was told he was too young for some parts, and then later in his life he was told he was too old for younger parts. But now we kind of have John Hammond that like older, good looking guy position now, so I think he's kind of found his spot now. But yeah, twenty nine years old. I think there's a lot of actors that we think about that we kind of remember them whenever they had their breakthrough role and then sometimes can't see them as any other age because I can't really imagine like a young John Hammond anything right now. But he is now worth an estimated forty million dollars, So pretty nice for somebody who got started later in life, because I think that's the harder thing to do once you're older. They want people who play younger roles. You know, they get what year old to play sixteen year old, which is always weird. So I think for him a great time to have come into his own Do you like John him? I found he's like kind of Some people like him, some people not so much. I mean, I've never watched Madman, so the only thing I can think of him and his Bridesmaids his character on Bridesmaids. But I think he plays the part well. Yeah, I think he's great. At number five, we have Jennifer Lawrence, who at one point was told she was too feminine to be in a movie, which is a weird thing, and I think it's kind of like a creepy Hollywood thing of like a jerk director or a jerk casting person telling them that she didn't have it to be a movie star. What does that even mean? I don't know. They told her that she was too plump, which is a horrible thing to tell anybody. Pretty awful, right, I'm making a face that no one can see, but I'm just like in shock. What is that? How would you put into into words that face you were making? Disgust? Yes, she says at one point, when she was much younger, starting out, she was told by the producers of a film to lose fifteen pounds in two weeks. That's disgusting. That is disgusting. That's horrible, that's awful. I'm just thinking, like, as a girl, if somebody ever told me that, I would be so upset. Yeah, she went through some pretty harsh stuff early in your career, but it led her to getting an OSCAR nomination by the time she was twenty years old, didn't have to listen to those producers, and now has a net worth of one hundred and sixty million dollars. I think she's the one laughing now. She is the one laughing now. I think if I were her, I would do something petty and like send those guys a what are those fruit baskets called edible arrangements? Which are the worst gift you could send somebody? Really, I think they are because they're so huge they are you can't really eat the fruit. Also, chocolate doesn't go on every fruit. It does. I think it goes on strawberries and grapes everything else. I like, you never had a chocolate covered grape covered banana. I don't think that's they're delicious because they're cold and the chocolate hardened, so they're they're like a little like it's like ice cream almost again. Vigil a visual look of disgust. But chocolate covered grapes, I'm just stuck on this, Okay, But edible arrangements are a terrible gift because they're so huge, and the ratio of fruit I want to eat versus fruit that is inside of an edible arrangement is totally off. So at the end you're dealing with this huge, giant thing of cantaloupe basically and trying to get it into your fridge. So I feel like, if there's somebody you kind of like but don't they like, and you have to send them a gift, get him an edible arrangement, that should be their tagline. Let me know that edible arrangements will never become of this podcast. I guess those are one of those companies that forget her an actual brand and not just like a thing anyway. They should market their things as being the petty is gift for the person you like, but not really the gift you have to send send him an animal arrangement. All right, let's get the number four. We have Scarlett Johnson, who at the age of eleven years old, actually missed out on the part of Jumanji that ended up going to Kirsten Dunns, and then three years later I was able to get a starring role in the movie The Horse Whisper. But I think looking at Scarlett Joe Hansen and how talented she is and how many movies she's done that are so I would say, I feel like I use the word iconic and just throw that around a lot. I think people really right now and throw that word around a lot. But she's in so many big movies that you forget how dynamic of an actor she is. And looking back on how many just huge projects she's been in, I think she's somebody who would go down in history as being one of the greatest. I think it's all and I never associate her with being like a childhood actors or being young. But to have that kind of drive to bounce back from something like that at such at such a young age, I think it tells a lot about her because I can imagine getting rejected for something at a level I can only it must be so weird to be a childhood actor. I feel a lot of them have like an early big role that they're known for, and then they're always trying to like chase that same kind of success. I think that's a very rare thing that we've ever seen somebody do. But for her to be successful so early on and to not let something like this keep her from doing that, I would have quit eleven years old. You see somebody else get the biggest part in the movie that you wanted, that you were so close to getting, and then having such a successful career after that, I think that would be a hard thing to do. That. I think that's pretty cool. And now she is worth and estimated one d and sixty five million dollars, so she's doing pretty well. Basically everyone from Marvel is baking. Yes, they make so much money from just one movie. They're they're fine. Coming in at number three, we have Salmahayak, who was told that leading roles would be impossible for her because of her age and nationality and things you can't say. So she was told that she, like like an actress in her mid thirties, would never have a leading role, and now she is one of the highest paid not only actresses, but Mexican American actresses, which for me, it's hard to find people who are Mexican American in film, like it's a weird thing to not have somebody that represents who you are in a movie without it being a thing. Like I think she has done that very well. But yeah, she said people would tell her over and over again, but she never let it get her down. And that I mean at even one point she said she like almost started to believe these people that it wouldn't happen. And I think she's just a unique actress and she's done, again, so many great things that I find it crazy that somebody would tell her that. And not only that, I think she's inspiring new younger generations now, Like actresses who are getting their start now probably grew up watching some of her movies and be like, hey, there's somebody who did it before me. I could do that too, So I think that's cool. And she is worth and estimated two million dollars. That's a lot of money. That's a lot of money, and she can't even fathom like checking your bank account, just like seeing that many zero. I mean, do you check one bank account of the thing. We've had this conversation before. It has to be multiple. Probably don't just have like all two million. He's probably got like some investments, probably got a couple of saving us accounts. But just like, even with that much, imagine how much you keep in your checking account, I know, just to open that one day and be like, oh, I'm still good. I'm ready to have to open your bank account like you don't even have to check it. That's true. They probably have busin this managers who just tell them, hey, you're doing all right. You could buy that second house. Oh man, could you imagine just you're not like me like checking right now. Do you think somebody like that even carries not only do they carry cash, but do they even carry a method of payment? Do you think they wouldn't? I don't know. I don't feel like they would need to go around and then be the one paying for things like I don't think that's in pictures of like celebrities like shopping on like Rodeo drive. So you don't think they take their amex Rodeo driven. Some celebrities, Yes, somebody like Salmahia two million dollars. Is that a point to where if she does go shopping on Rodeo Drive, I feel like she has somebody with her who makes that transaction. I don't feel like she goes and pays for herself herself. Interesting, let's get her on the line, all right, coming in at number two, it's Harrison Ford. So Harrison Ford started acting in his twenties, but he felt like he really wasn't getting any major roles that he wanted. So it wasn't until he was thirty five that he got Star Wars. But at that time, he was actually working as a carpenter, wasn't even full on acting, and he was working for somebody else working on the Star Wars movie. And that's kind of how he got that job. Was like, Hey, this guy would actually be great at this, and then went on to be Han solo in Star Wars, then went on to be Indiana Jones and is now worth a whopping three hundred million dollars. Now I can for sure say that Harrison Ford and go into a store and buying his own things. No, he's just buying planes. Doesn't he fly like the same plane? He does fly planes? Remember when he survived that plane crash wild And it's crazy. That's why I want That's the only reason I want to see the new Indiana Jones movie, because I want to see what he's like at that age doing in Indiana Jones movie. And then coming in at number one. Before I get to this one, who this person is worth also an estimated three hundred million dollars huge a list actor. But before I get to that one, there is one person who not an actor, but he's a huge director, and it's Steven Spielberg. And he was rejected from film school early on, didn't even go to film school, got accepted by another school, but dropped out to pursue directing, and now has won three Oscars, seven Golden Globes, eleven Emmys, and is worth three point seven billion dollars. I didn't realize he was worth that much money. Like, I know, he's done basically every huge movie and it's probably the biggest director of our lifetime. But the three points seven billion dollars with a B, that's in an insane amount of money. That's yeah, that's I can't. I'm like wrapping my head around that three point seven billion. The only time I'm able to wrap that around my head is whenever there's like people who will do like things on TikTok where they put like big piles of rice next to each other, and it's like, this represents a million dollarge. This is a hundred million and then they pour out like an entire sack of RYE said, that's a billion dollars. That's the only way I'm able to visualize it, because a billion dollars is an insane amount of money to where it feels like money is not even a thing. TikTok for education. It's a visual thing. You gotta believe TikTok for that. So that is the only way I'm able to put it into my head. And there's also a website of like how to spend Jeff Bezos money to where you basically buy all these outlantish things and it equals not even a fraction of his net worth. So I did not realize he is worth that much money. But crazy that at one point I couldn't even make it in film school. So all you aspiring directors out there, you don't need film school. I hear that a lot. Like again, people on TikTok who are working now as directors are like, you really don't need to go to film school. You need to go out just shoot things, get the experience. Nobody is going to care if you have a degree in film. I feel like there's a lot more tools now too for people to kind of make their own yea movie with inexpensive equipment and just put things together on their own and edit. You don't think you need necessarily a fancy education for that. Yeah. I was looking at a thing of the approved cameras by Netflix to make movies and TV shows, and one of the cameras on that is like three thousand dollars, which is still a lot of money. But if you're trying to make it in film as a director, it's not that much to spend to invest in yourself. You can do it. Go out there, buy your video camera. I wanted to be a director at one point. I think I'd still like to do that at some point anymore so now I'm into the writing aspect of it. Like in high school, that's what I wanted to do. I wanted to make movies, horror movies, music videos, That's what I wanted to do. I mean, you're still very talented with like video making. Like any time we've gone on a trip, you make like a recap video when you were touring. You would put a lot of stuff together. I have an aspiring cinematic eye, I would say. I wouldn't say that in public, I would only say that linked LinkedIn. I have a caring cinematic guy anyway. At number one is Brad Pitt, who, like every other actor, he kind of struggled out in the beginning, and he was working a lot of odd jobs. He moved furniture, he I think at one point worked at like a chicken restaurant where he actually dressed up in the chicken suit. But there was one point early on his career where he auditioned for this movie called The Accused, and after his audition, a few seconds of silence went by, and the casting director told him, have you ever thought about acting classes? Could you imagine now having to audition as Brad Pitt and somebody telling you you're not that good? No, Like, that's crazy to me. And I think he's at a level now to where he doesn't have to audition for movies. Anybody at his level they don't have to go in and prove that they can still act. They only have to kind of have projects that have already been determined for them. So if somebody's making a new movie and they want Brad Pitt, they'll kind of write it for Brad Pitt, and whether or not he takes it or not, it's kind of up to him and they'll find somebody else. I think that's what you kind of see a lot more now, but Brad pitting out there auditioning anymore. He doesn't have to prove his acting skills. But even Brad Pitt at one point was told, hey, man, you need to get a little bit better. So that's another thing, is you gotta practice. You gotta go out and train, rehearse, put in the work to be better. I think I get questions from people like how to start a podcast. Just start a podcast and keep doing episodes. You're gonna be terrible in the beginning this podcast. When I first started, it was that great. I struggled to more so behind the scenes of like how am I gonna do this? How am I going to speak for an entire episode by myself? And it's tough. You just gotta keep doing it. You'll get better eventually, and know that all your work won't be your best work. I think that's what I struggle with, Like I know that I can try to make every episode as fun and entertaining as they can, but sometimes I'm gonna suck a little bit and i gonna have the best idea, or I'll have a good idea and it won't execute the same way. Just keep doing it, keep going, be a bat, be a Brad Pitt in this life. I think I got that out of that second time, right right, Yes, okay, thank you. Anyway that has been actors who were told at one point you can never be an actor. I think you could be an actor? Yeah, absolutely not. You don't think you could. I after I read the Matthew McConaughey book, I thought I could be an actor. I feel like I have something in me that I could like check into. I think everybody does that really really if were you ever in any kind of acting thing as a kid, Oh yeah, I've told you that. I went through like a phase in the second grade where I thought I wanted to be like a filmmaker. The second grade, there you go, And the second grade me was like looking up, n y uh really, but there you go. Let's talk about now the best uses of coffee in movies. We're both big coffee lovers, so I wanted a way to bring coffee to the podcast because it's a way that we bonded early on in our relationship of going out to do something because we don't really I don't really drink and it's not really a thing for me to like go out for drinks. So I think early on going out and drinking coffee was kind of a way of like it was kind of became our thing for a while. That was our third day it was coffee. Yeah, I think I actually at that date, which I am vegan at that point, I was so like just wanting to have a good day, to make a good impression, and wanted to try what you recommended. I think I drinks some with milk. I for sure did. That's how much I was wanting everything to go right that I for sure drink something with also almost missed a flight that day. There's a lot of things that day. Look at all the things I sacrificed you. Okay, you almost made me drive you to the airport too. Well, anyway, it all comes back to our love of coffee. So let's talk about these favorite coffee moments in movies. The first one comes to us from Thor when he tries coffee for the very first time. I know that's great, right, what was that was delicious? Well you could have just said so, No, I mean a nicely. I'm in no disrespect, all right, look, no more smashing. Do you do you remember the first time you had coffee? I think I was in high school. Oh so that late? Yeah, okay, I maybe tried it before then, but the first time I ever like drank a coffee beverage, and even then it was a frappuccino. Did you like the taste of coffee on its own? Why not? It was bitter? Yeah? I think I was. I guess it's an acquired taste. And I remember early on when I would try it, Like my dad survived off coffee. He's a truck driver and he would just take a giant thing of coffee every day and I would see him drink. Again, I would try it and I didn't like it, And I think it wasn't until yeah, probably in my teenage years. Really more so once I started college, like probably eighteen or nineteen years old, where I survived off of coffee. It's an acquired taste. I feel like a lot of things like that are Like I didn't like wine the first time I tried it, and also with coffee, I think it's having it's curbing that how caffeine affects you because early on it'll hit you a lot quicker and you feel that ultimate Like before, when I drank coffee, I would say it felt like like God patted me on the head and the buzzer gave me I knew that was good coffee, to where I was like, okay, I feel a lot better now. And that's what I kind of searched for for a long time, that feeling of like the caffeine, the alertness, and the overall just feeling of like all right, I'm ready to serve my day. And now we're just so accustomed to it that it's like I can't functional thought of I cannot. Yeah, I think I recently scaled back a little bit and noticed that it kind of affects me. We don't even really talk to each other that much before we have coffee. You're right, I never I didn't think i'd be one of those people like I need coffee before I can have a conversation. Oh yeah, I don't want to speak to anyone before, but I kind of do coffee alright. Coming next is from Elf. You did Becngratulations world, the best cup of coffee. Great job everybody. It's great to meet him, and I love that scene because we say that a lot, like we're the best cup of coffee. I love that scene because he I also just want that kind of positivity, yeah, to have, like I just think everything is the best, the best, it's the best. But also I love I even like not so great coffee. I think there's a joy in that too, Like I like going to a diner and just getting coffee, and that feeling of like the kind of the act of drinking coffee too is also just the thing for me, Like it doesn't have to be the best coffee, but if I'm having it a you know, a diner, it has a bit of a more appeal to it. Or also I like gas they and coffee, Like on a road trip, I like stopping it like a seven eleven or just some random truck stop and getting a coffee. And I think it's great, you do love gas station. I don't know why. I think it was also back to my dad, like going on trips with him. He was a truck driver, and as a kid, I would go with him and he would go in and get coffee. But I was so young that I didn't want coffee. And I think now I associate going on road trips and getting a coffee of like being a kid again. I now I'll get to enjoy that like a full circle moment. So coming in next is from the Green Hornet. Where's my wheep? Oh? Make for coffee? Oh make for coffee? We's someone explained to me where the worst night of my life? Your coffee is normally made by Kato, who the hell is that he works on your father's cars and and makes his coffee. You fired him and everyone else who works for your father yesterday here now, So in this movie, he had just this cup of coffee delivered to him everything day and it was perfect and had a little leaf in it, and then he fired that guy and the person who made his coffee didn't know how to make it. Do you feel like I don't feel like so much with a coffee we make, there's an art to actually making it, because I think we've gotten to the point to where we just find the coffee we like to buy and make it home. That I don't think there's necessarily an art to what we like to drink. But sometimes I think we go to Starbucks so much that it's weird. How like we know instantly whether it's good or not. We do. You can talk by the color. We have a rating system. We do have a rating system entire than an eight. It's a great day. And I think we've gotten to the point so much at Starbucks for us, they know us and they already know our order. Did you have that early on? Like somebody just knowing your order? By how many times you go into a place? I did. In high school there was a Starbucks like three minutes from my school, So I would either go in the morning or like fed an off period like a would go to school late. I'd go, or in the afternoons. My friends and I senior year would go, and my favorite barista, Ellen made me the best frappuccino every day, so much so that for graduation my friends got me like a reusable Starbucks tumbler and had Ellen and the other barista sign it and write my order like on the cups. That's how much I went. That's a lot. Yeah, that's the whole extra level of what I did. I've been gold level at Starbucks for like eleven years now. Nice, thank you? All right. The next use of coffee in a movie and one from one of my favorites is Men in Black. I got some coffee with some coffee, No, thank you, I'm fine. One cinnamon. Well, I don't tell me. We only got that powder stuff with creaming, and I hate that stuff. Black guy. So that's the theme in the movie when he's first getting Will Smith joined the Men in Black and it's all the aliens making their cup of coffee. I think I remember my worst cup of coffee ever, and I think it's one that we shared together, because then this clip is complaining about the decap stuff and the worst cup of coffee we ever got. Was that a place we were going to and we thought it was going to be fantastic, and we also thought it was We also almost went to another place, but there was a line like this place is way less crowded, like let's give it a chance. We were going to a place where the intention of getting a great cup of coffee. That place had a line out the door. So we're like, all right, we'll go to this place. I've heard about it. And we went there and at first we were like, man, this is great. We both got like a large and for two and I think at that time I was still getting like Latte's, so I was like, wow, a large latte for like two fifties. It was so cheap, so cheap big drinks. Were like, it's gonna be the best. First sip we were like, okay, it's good, and then I think by the second sip we just kind of looked at each other and we were like, we're not finishing this. Were like, no, And I don't like wasting food. You hate waste. I hate wasting food. I hate wasting a drink. If I go, especially if like go and buy something, I'm going to finish it, whether it's terrible or the best thing. Ever, I don't like wasting food. I think it comes for me as a kid. If I had the food, I would eat it. And now I just have a thing to where I can't throw anything away. I think I've gotten a little bit better because of you. If I have to throw anything away, well, you've also taught me like if you don't like it, don't eat it, don't finish it. It's I mean, I'm not encouraging food waste. I'm not, but like, if you buy something and you really don't like it, don't force yourself to eat it. Like you also accidentally bought real meatballs at Trader Joe's one time. You're a vegan, I'm mostly vegetarian. We weren't gonna eat them. Yeah, it happens, It does happen. But that was a bad cup of coffee. This cup of coffee, we were like, we couldn't even finish it. And the place was so cool that we just like sat there and hung out for a while. It was a great place attempting. I feel like we took like a selfie like before we like with our coffee right eye, like this is gonna be so great. That cup of coffee it just hit it was. It was really bad. Yeah, that was for sure the worst cup of coffee I've ever had. Yeah, it's very rare that I get something and don't finish it. I think in the last three years or so, that's the only time I've done it. Because even if I don't finish mine, you'll drink I will. I will drink yours. To where I would say, we get larger cup of coffees than most people do. We go, we drink more and we probably get a biggers than we do, all right, And that kind of brings us to our last clip here from Role Models, one of my favorite scenes ever. Good morning, Can I take your order? Can get a tall large black coffee, large black corfee? Do you mean a Venti? Yeah? The biggest funny that Venti is large, Venti is twenty Yeah, large is large. In fact, tall is large and grande is Spanish for large. Venti is the only one that doesn't mean large. It's also the only one that's Italian. Congratulations for stupid and three languages. I always think it's funny when people like I early on was intimidated by the star ordering system because now I get the Venti, but it feels weird for me to have a longer order at Starbuck, which I've never had. But I remember I was like, will they really get mad if you say large or they correct you? Will they still do that? I don't think. I feel like they do. They know what they know what you mean, right. It sometimes feels weird to go in and ask for a Venti and it just I don't know, you never had that feeling. I can switch back and forth pretty easily. Really, Starbucks is the only one that does sizes like that, and we're like, some places will ask you an ounces. Yeah, that's true. That's most coffee places. But I think there's some people who just refuse to say VENTI. And especially now that there, I think that we can order on the app from them. Again, I don't want this to sound like a Starbucks commercial, but we just use it so much. But I think I have a weird form of anxiety of ordering anything with like a long amount, especially to a drive through. That's hard for me. You also, if they mess up your order, you won't Oh I won't. I won't take it back. I will tell the story about the time we got to fight in the drive through, one of the if you do. We don't fight very often. I say we bicker more than anything. But one fight that we got in was because, okay, keep in mind this is last year. I was like still fairly like early to being here, I didn't really leave the house much, so like really the only thing left the house for was caught. I was like a dog like being let out of the house. That was like my field trip of the day. I loved it, like, I really enjoyed it. So we go through the drive throom, we order, they hand us our cups. I'm like, oh, this doesn't say that it has vanilla in it. You look at the cup, tell me, no one has vanilla in it, and I'm like okay. Then you get yours. We drive off and you take a sip and you're like, Nope, this doesn't have vanilla in it. And I think I like gave you a death glare because I was like, of course it doesn't have vanilla. I didn't want to have your back because I felt like, at that time, what are they gonna do spitting your drink? They really can't do that right now, they really can, But I felt it was rude to send something back, and also like, what's the rules on sending things back? Now? Can you give it back? Do they just make you a fresh one. I just felt pressure to give something back, and I don't like to correct people when you comes to messing with people's food or anything like that. I'm just like, I'll take it as it is because I don't want to send it back at the risk of them doing something to it. I've always been like that. We didn't speak the rest of the way home. We didn't speak for I was so mad. But then we went back the next day. I had the same guy shout out to our star Books barista who remembered us, and I was like, hey, I think I got your coffee wrong last time, so like I forgot vanilla. He's like the drinks around me today always right in the world. So shout out to our barista that remembers us. Yeah, that's a story about in case anyone was wondering if we're normal, we do? We do? We are not. So that has been our coffee conversation and we reveal that one of our finds that we've had over coffee. I hope you guys enjoyed this coffee talk, which you have now been dubbed the coffee Queen. I hear Hillary, our friend Hillary from the Bobby Bone Show dubbed me the coffee Queen because she was going to Starbucks yesterday and she doesn't drink coffee that often, and she texted me and she was mobile ordering and she saw that the drink that she wanted had three shots of espresso, and she was like, can I handle three shots? And I was like, on an empty stomach, probably not. I was like, that's more of a pro move. Should I should say? When I was in college, I guess even know still recently in grad school, I would get coffee at shut Up Summer Moon, and the large coffee that I would get had four shots of espresso, but I learned that they would add a fifth one for free, so I was up to drinking. I've shots of espresso in my coffee. I wouldn't recommend that. Yeah, I feel like it. I could probably drink three coffees in a day and be normal. There's some three coffees some mornings and then like still going to an afternoon coffee, counting out my hot cup of coffee. I drink three and be normal ice coffee in the afternoon, and I'm good. But I think one more from that is where I hit that, like I've had too much caffeine. That's where I'm at, Like that ectra, like it feels like my heart's fluttering a bit. That's the kind of feeling I get when I go above that. Right now, I am drinking as we record this podcast, a cold brew from Highbrew our favorites, our favorites, and they're based out of Boston, Texas, and I feel like this has the right amount of caffeine. We now have Highbrew set up on like an auto delivery. We get a case of twelve every two weeks. Yeah, that is our favorite. I don't really like hand coffee aside from Highbrew, because I like, well, I am vegan, so I don't drink anyone milk. I also never really like coffee with milk, and I just like the coffee taste, so I think Highbrew has the best when it comes to that. I found those when I was starting grad school and I would take one in my backpack and like drink it during class because I hadn't been in school for two years and I forgot how long two hours is? You need that coffee. You need that coffee. So this has been a coffee conversation tied in of movies. I hope you guys enjoyed that. Now let's get into our movie review of the week, which we are talking about the movie Cherry with Tom Holland. It's available on Apple Plus if you have a subscription, which when it comes to streaming services, it's a pretty affordable one. It's only five bucks a month. But there's also not a whole lot on there, so you have to consider that. But before we get into our review, here's a little bit of Cherry. I have this noise. It'll suck one day, it'll go quiet. I don't imagine that anyone goes in for a robbery if they're not in some kind of desperation. They've been at this a while now, and it's no secret when my face looks like good talking. Well, one thing about robbing banks is your mostly robbing women. So the last thing you want to be is rude, ma'am. It's nothing personal. So I'm excited about this movie because I think Tom Holland is kind of on that brink of being an analyst actor. He already had the Spider Man movies under his belt, and I don't think he's really a house whole name yet in Hollywood, but he is pretty close. And I think what he's trying to do is differentiate himself from just being Spider Man, from just being Peter Parker to being an overall legitimate actor, which I think already is. But I think it's that next level. Is kind of doing things to show his range and to show he can be a dramatic, powerful actor. We saw that in Double All the Time last year, and now with this one. I think I was excited because I thought it was gonna be a full on war movie and we were going to be able to see that kind of raw, gritty side of him, which I think we did get a little bit of. But this movie was not exactly what I was expecting. It kind of felt like three movies in one. Like the very first beginning of the movie is almost like a love story drama. You get the story about him and I guess it, there's a lot of character building in that, but it felt like a whole different movie, trippy at times. The visuals were back and forth, which were to me visually kind of like intriguing. It made me want to watch it, but I think they were a little bit what distracting for you? They were distracting, And I want to say to the movie actually kind of started with the end of the movie. It does and then goes back, so it's one of those where it gives you the end and then you're kind of like working up to that wondering how, yeah, how it gets there, which I thought was a cool point because it kind of manete to where you understood it. You're wondering how he ends up in that position, and then as you're going and watching the movie, you're like, how is it going to get back to that and you do learn that, so I think that was pretty cool that they did that. But then it gets to when he's just in war and it takes place in the early two thousand's, and that's a pretty I mean, it's it deals a lot with PTSD is overall what the message of the movie is. His character goes to war. He signs up because he was in a relationship wasn't going so well, she was going to move away. He decided to sign up for the army, goes to war and see some pretty horrific things, and it's told in a way to where I felt like really humanized that aspect of war, because I guess because they did so much character development in the beginning of the movie to where you learn how he went from just being a normal person, maybe not having the best life and having some difficulties to go into war and seeing what is just unimaginable and just so horrific and real. But what actual people go through when they go to the army and come back, and it talked about and showed what they deal with. Again in this instant, it's very to an extreme because he gets up and he comes back and starts doing drugs. But I think what they're trying to show is the effects of what it's like to be in the army and to experience things like death around you every day and to be able to or be expected to go deal with that and come back and be normal. So a lot of this movie speaks to that. Do you think that was kind of a hard thing to watch? It was? I mean, it's it's sad. I don't really know what else to say other than that, I don't want to give too much away. Our rule of this podcast is we don't spoil movies. We like to just talk about them and discuss them and whether or not you should go watch them. But yeah, I thought it was hard to watch. And I do think the movie went on a little bit too long because by the time it comes back to him dealing with the PTSD, it feels more like it shifts to like just a straight up, like crime kind of thriller. Did you feel that? And this movie is directed by the Russo brothers, who also did a lot of the Marvel movies, and I think it shows and you can feel their present in this movie because it is such a dynamic movie and it feels so different it looks so different and it's very entertaining in a way that you can tell that they were going for something here. I don't know that it exactly got there for me, Like I was expecting a full on kind of like well, I was expecting a full on war drama movie and to see a really kind of stellar A plus performance from Tom Holland that I think just due to how it kind of shifted a lot that I don't think I got there just yet. I think it was great. I think he's really kind of shows his range in this movie, but not exactly what I was looking for. So what would you rate it? I would give it three and a half out of five banks. Okay, I would go a little bit higher than that. I would go three point seven five. How could I rate this without ring anything? I'll say, pills of ecstasy? Is that fair to say? Sure? It was something that I would say you should probably go watch, like I think it's worth it if you have the Apple Plus subscription. I think the overall message of the movie is an important one, and when I haven't really seen tackle like that us and it's a noteworthy movie to go see to learn about that and to see the effects of that, and I know it takes a whole higher level than I think we were all expecting to see. But I think that's also what makes this movie pretty cool. So if it would have kind of dove in a little bit more into his character and not get so outlandished, I guess towards it, I think that's what kind of kept me from writing to a little bit higher. It shifted into being a different movie at one point, is how I felt that it took just a little bit away from me. So we'll leave it there. That's what we think about, Cherry, And finally let's get into some movie news. The biggest thing I think we both saw was that Disney CEO confirms that Black Widow is still scheduled for a May seven release. I think that's pretty exciting. I don't know if it will be a full fledged release as in the regards of like that they're going to have the same amount of box office numbers, because right now, movies are going into theaters like the Disney movie that just came out a couple of weeks ago made about under ten million dollars at the box office, which is the highest grossing in a very long time for the United States. And what we're seeing now is like overseas, movies are starting to be a thing again. They're showing older movies, so like movies like Avatar have now ranked up in or above the Avengers now in the overall box office growth. So you're seeing movie theaters start to be a thing again. So I think this is a good sign. But I don't know if May seventh is still going to happen, even though they say it's going to them might hold out for like an a round July fourth, and I don't know why they maybe an audience. I don't know why they don't just give it a new date that we know won't change. May still a little too soon. Yeah, May is still a little bit too soon. I think that's right on the brink of when we could have a bunch of people in a movie theater. Puts your back a month, and I do want to see that movie in theaters, is why I'm saying that. I think that movie deserves a full relate, especially after being delayed so long. I think we should have that one in theaters. Also in movie news, Matt Reeves, the director of The Batman, has announced they have finished filming, And this was one of the first movies I got delayed so much from COVID. Back in September, they got pushed back, which ended up pushing back the release date from what was supposed to be this year June, and it's now coming out on March four. That's a long time, but I am glad that they're done filming the movie. It is coming out soon and I don't think it'll be delayed anymore. Just cool. And now they finally finished that movie. They've been working on that one a long time. So excited to see that one, even though I didn't get to see it on my birthday this year, sad. And then finally in movie news, we're talking about him earlier, Steven Spielberg has announced that he's making a biopic about himself. I mean, if I was Steven Spielberg, I think the only person I would trust to direct a movie about myself would be myself myself. Like, if you're the greatest director in a really long time, probably ever, Yeah, who else would you think to direct your own movie? Would you direct a movie about yourself? I don't really want a movie written about me. If you made about me, if you had to pick somebody to play you in a movie? Who would it be? You did once say I looked like Jessica Bible with glasses. I do. I think she'd be great to play you. Who's the other actors do you like? From Montree Hill? Sophia Bush? I would probably pick her for you love her. She'd be a great Kelsey. She's all my hair inspirations. Anytime I get my hair done, I just take my stylistic pictures make me I do. I screenshraw like six pictures and I'm like, pick one of these, surprised me. I would never do that because I feel like there's not a celebrity that really looks like me, So I would just be picking like an attractive guy and like, hey made look like him, and like your hair doesn't match him. You just want to look like him physically. So I would never do that. I would just take older pictures to me. Whenever my hair was like how I liked it, I'm like, do that again. That I can do for people that don't know. Your hair takes a lot of precision to get the way you want it. You stress a lot before you go to a haircut. What picture do I show them, because I mean my hair, I feel like I asked for the same thing every single time, but they do it differently because I don't have a designated hair Burson in to Starbucks and getting a different drink sometimes they get different ways. There you go turn this back into the There you go back into the coffee. And then finally, what we do every single week is to give a shout out to one of you guys who listen. And all you have to do is tweet me on Instagram. Actually, you tweet me on Twitter at Mike Destro, you d m me on Oh my gosh, I cannot speak today. It's all the coffee I've had. This is like my grandpa that doesn't know any like forms of social media, and he's like, tweet me on face Graham, and I'm like, I'll send you a text, follow me on the ticker Talker. But anyway, you can tweet me on Twitter at Mike Destro or same. You can d m on Instagram, or send us an email movie Mike d at gmail dot com. And this is actually an email we got from Lori. She says, hey, Mike b teamer here. I'm older than most of the listeners and b teamers, and most of your movies that you critique or review you are newer, including the ones you recommend on the show. There are so many classic epic films of other generations, and I think you could recommend some. So she actually gave me a list of movies, a lot of that I've actually seen. I just haven't had a reason to bring them up on the show before. So I think in the future I will recommend and also go back and watch some old classic movies. I think there's some very early movies that are very influential that I haven't seen. I've only known from references of There's and other movies or another TV shows. Because the first one she mentioned is Casablanca, that I don't think i've seen, or I saw so long ago that I don't really remember what it's about. Like I know the overall story of that movie, but I don't think i've actually sat down to watch it since I've been doing a movie podcast. So maybe I'll review with some classic movies, some old black and white movies. One on, Eddie from The Bobby Bones Show loves classic movies. His favorite channel that he watches that Turner Movie Classics. I don't know why he loves those. That's a great idea to bring any on to talk about his black and white movie. I don't dislike black and white movies. I just never really had a reason to go back and watch like old specific movies for a reason. But I think we found one now, So appreciate that email, Lorie. Thanks for the suggestion. All we'd love topic ideas do you guys have, so feel free to send those in um at Mike destro on all platforms. Thanks for listening to this episode, especially the people who download and listen to new episodes every single Monday, because that's when those episodes come out. And I think there's a whole kind of movie game now that listens on Mondays. Like I see those tweets, I see those comments come in that you listen, and it makes your Monday, So that means a lot to me. But that being said, the episode does come out on Mondays, so you will see later today, depending on when you're listening, that the Oscar nominations came out, and we will get to those next week. We'll talk about predictions and about what we think about those coming out. Really excited about those because it's been a weird year in movies. I wonder what will be nominated and how they'll kind of scale that, So look forward to that on next week's episode. Thanks for listening, Thanks for subscribing. We'll talk to you next Monday. Anything else you want to say, Kelsey, I think I've said it all. You said it on with that said later