The Drama of Divorces | RHOBH Recap with Alexis Bellino

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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or scripted as well. Hey, rain Drops, Alexis, Jason, and I are back for another recap of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Season fifteen, episode eleven.

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Speaker 2: Woo.

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Speaker 3: We are eleven episodes and can you believe.

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Speaker 4: That it's gone fast now? It was kind of slowed. I was like, what episode is this? Now It's like, wow, I can't believe we're over halfway almost. I mean, it's sad to say we're coming to the last stretch.

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Speaker 3: I know, it's so funny be going. I fought we just started.

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Speaker 4: It's so weird when we first started, Carlos, you know, it didn't feel like that.

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Speaker 5: Though.

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Speaker 3: You know, listen this, I'll say it.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to say, Alexis, this is no oc bitch because buddy, ohc we were it was boom oc is like the Mike Tyson's Bell May Hills more like Jake Paul.

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Speaker 2: Thought of those analogies. Okay, I'll leave the analogies to you, Carlos.

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Speaker 4: You're good at that, you know, Alexis does.

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Speaker 2: But my mind never would have gone there.

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Speaker 3: I was like.

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Speaker 2: Orange County, like what has pop?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 2: Orange County is neon pink and Beverly Hill is.

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Speaker 4: Like a purple, which, hey, their their cover was a purple, but we're like hot pink because of the pop.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, yes, yes, yes, listen. I won't say this what is happening this season?

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Speaker 1: And I thought about it Alexis after watching this episode which I had moments of scenes that I enjoyed, and we'll we'll get into that if I talk about it. But what I realized about this season is listen, I'm not gonna say it's a bad season. I don't think that's the right word to give this show. I think this is a I would consider this to be eleven episodes in uh transition season. And when I say that, what I mean is it is obvious that something's missing, and I think this season is all about figuring out who stays who goes, And there were a lot of good moments in this, but it is it's not the Beverly Hills. I'll speak myself. It's not the Beverly Hills I'm used to assigned the four.

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Speaker 4: Okay, well, I have a take on that, and I haven't watched a lot of them, you know, I think I watched, like I told you a couple at the beginning, but I hear what you're saying and I agree with you, and I think what it's missing is the like the fact that all these women have so much heaviness going on in their lives. Usually there's only one character at a time that's going through such massive, you know, turmoil.

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Speaker 2: In their life.

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Speaker 4: But there's like, like this episode, you got choked up how many times? I mean with everything between Erica and dorit's part and then it's always heavy and then Rachel Zoe opened up.

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Speaker 2: So it's like, I think it's missing the.

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Speaker 4: Element of just a little bit more stability where the women are in a different place in their lives. I think we have one season where it's like almost all of them and Kyle's even going through divorce, like we've talked about with all the women are going through something kind of heavy, and it's just so it's missing the fact that it's The arguments are kind of hard to deal with because of the fact that there's so much other heaviness going on in everyone's lives.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, for sure, for sure, and it's painstakingly obvious. But listen, let's just get right into the episode. At least it started off with something.

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Speaker 3: Fun to me.

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Speaker 1: So Rachel, Kyle, and Derey they're still in the Hamptons having a girl's trip.

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Speaker 3: They go shopping, okay, and the read is a woman on a mission. Okay.

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Speaker 1: I like to call it mission impossible because I don't think it's possible that the mission can be accomplished based on where her debit card is at. But she's pulling off clothes and in her confessionals, she's like, you know, I'm like, I'm really smart with my money. Responsible, she said, yeah, responsible, I'm really responsible, Thank you, Alexis. And I'm like, okay, I don't know how responsible it is. In one store that isn't like Louis Bautad, You're spending.

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Speaker 3: Over four thousand dollars and then the car doesn't go through.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but okay, I knew you were going to bring this up. Do you believe see? I think she's probably right. She was on the phone with her bank, and I've had security stuff done on my credit cards like that before Florida or whatever. It's like, so I believe her. And I was in my mind, I'm going, oh my gosh, she's already known.

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Speaker 2: For this or this is what the stick is about her. And here she is, and she's got.

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Speaker 4: Her bank being super careful right now telling her you can't spend and are you are you really in the Hampton's and she can't get the security code or what I mean.

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Speaker 2: It's just like it was one of those perfect storms where it's I was like, she's in for it, like she's going to get so abused.

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Speaker 1: So it was I felt bad for her. And listen, rain jobs, I tell you guys, I love to read. I don't dislike her, although Alexi is like, yeah, a plenty way of showing it. Yeah it's true. Well I yes, yes, and listen that's fair. What I will say is I will defend Dury this time. I've been like you, Alexis, as she's applauding. That's why you guys got to watch this on YouTube as well. I have been in situations what I have been in stores, stores where it's not in the city in which I reside, or where you know, the bank and my home address is not on you know, a part of that particular merchant. So long story short, I have been a situation where it has declient and I'm like.

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Speaker 2: Alexis right, so embarrassed.

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Speaker 4: First of all, if it's your credit card, you know what you your max limit is, and you know you ain't close to it if you're good with your money. And then and then if it's your if it's your debit account, you know how much you got in your bank account. So you're like, and mine's tied to my savings, so it's like, there's no way I can have a bad you know anything.

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Speaker 2: So I'm like, I am so embarrassed. I'm like, oh my gosh.

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Speaker 4: And so then I call the bank, but they have high security on me because I have had fraud in the past. So they put like, you know, they just are careful now because they don't want their clients to have fraud on their credit cards and such. So I just felt so bad for her, and I was like, man, I wish I could.

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Speaker 2: Jump through and be like, I've been there, I know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: You know, same here, And that's why for me, I felt the exact same way you felt.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, look, we already think you're broke like a joke.

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Speaker 1: And not me because I know you get paid lovely from the show, but the audience doesn't think you have the money. So for that, that happened to all people her, it was unfortunate. But I will say her defense, it has happened to all of us when you're buying shit that amount a different.

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Speaker 2: State, in a different state.

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Speaker 4: And you know, the bad part is like if it happened to any of the other their castmates, there would be no no upheaval about it. But because it was dereet, now all the women you know are you know, thank god she didn't go over.

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Speaker 2: And say my card. God declined, you know, because they have to wait and watch it now and see.

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Speaker 4: But it's like it's not going to help her image on which sucks about what what the audience does think already about her being broke. That's the part that sucks, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, Yeah, alexis no, I'm not a woman.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I loved all her outfits. She picked those cars.

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Speaker 4: I was like, I will take that, and I will take that, and I was I'm gonna be like I wanted to DM or and be like, can I just purchase everything you just bought off your a like rack when you've worn it once, because you know we only wear things like once or twice.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, just I'll buy all of it.

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Speaker 3: See that's why I love you.

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Speaker 1: I was literally, literally you took the worst out of my mouth. I was about to ask you. I'm not a woman, so I don't know anything about women's clothing, but I was like, is this shit worth four thousand dollars? Well, apparently, Alexis it.

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Speaker 2: Is, yeah, because here's the deal.

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Speaker 4: And I was going to go back to that too, because just because it's not Louis Vuitton, Louis a time you get one item or one wallet for four thousand, okay, or any of our high end places we like to shop.

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Speaker 2: However, when you were in the Hamptons, because I've only.

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Speaker 4: Been once, but I do know that, I went to a boutique and then I went to a children's boutique. We did my kids were like five when we went five, five and six or something like that.

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Speaker 2: I did damage like that in all the.

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Speaker 4: Kids stores and in the store I shopped in, because they have they have things you can't get here, and you don't know where, what designers they are, what they are, I didn't know how to get them, so I just hurt. One of her outfits might be five hundred bucks, Carlos. Take that divided by four thousand, divided by five outfits.

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Speaker 2: Or maybe she got hat and then she got some other things.

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Speaker 4: I mean, if you really then one of them was addressed to one of them was two pieces sore. Probably more than that. It's really not that much if she got let me hold on a second. Let me do my math real quick, because I can't think that fast. Let's just do Let's just do four thousand dollars was forty five hundred because she bought that after Okay, let's just divide it by Let's say the average outfit was let's just say six fifty. Okay, the ensemble or the hat or you know, there's accessories. Also, she only got six point nine, so seven items in the store.

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Speaker 2: And you me, trust you me. The items in the Hampton's.

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Speaker 4: Stores are not twenty five ninety nine okay, it's like two five and ninety nine. Okay, So I don't feel like deit overspent. I mean, I get where Kyle's saying it's because she's in a not good place to spend that money right now. But at the same time, it's six outfits or seven outfit, six outfits and three accessories.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know. I was right with three.

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Speaker 4: I was like, dang, if I tried that on, I would not be able to say no, I would have to go into some credit card debt for some of those outfits.

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Speaker 3: And is her money?

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Speaker 1: Listen, I will say this. She's a reality star. She's been on the show for more than ten seasons. I want to say, so she she's making money and it's her money, and that's why.

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Speaker 3: Look, I'm on Derte's side when it comes to that.

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Speaker 1: She deserves it, like she was saying in the in the professional she's pretty much a single mom and she hasn't been for herself.

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Speaker 3: And if she wants to treat herself as something, so be it.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, how do we know how when the last time she went to a store was do you know, there's times I go it.

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Speaker 2: I barely go into boutiques because I don't have time.

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Speaker 4: But it's like, when I go into a boutique, there might be one time where you find absolutely nothing, and you're like, you could go into five that day and it's just not your shopping day. I always say, the shopping gods are not on my favor today. Nothing looks good on you. They don't have the right size, they don't have the right whatever. And then you'll go into a boutique like that one day, one day when you've been trying to find clothes for weeks and weeks or months and months, and then you find all the outfits ever and it's like, Okay, well if I would have divided that forty five hundred dollars on the seven times I've been out shopping and found nothing, I mean, that's all my mind was thinking when I was watching the whole scene, and the whole time, I'm feeling so bad for it because I'm like, she's just she's had it rough already.

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Speaker 2: Let's just let her, let her spend some money.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, So deary see, I'm on your side.

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Speaker 2: I loves you. He does. He's brutal, but he loves me.

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Speaker 3: I do, I did, I did, dere I love you and and your fans leave your love. I have your back.

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Speaker 1: Now we'll see what happens next week. Speaking of somebody who they also think I'm harsh on. We got to get into the scene between Sutton and Jennifer Teeley.

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Speaker 4: Oh god, I just love Jennifer and her outfit. Can we talk about her cat purse? Did you see the cat handbag that she's on the table and then there's just twinkies just joining him for the lunch.

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Speaker 3: I love her. I think she's so great. She's you know what's so funny watching her scenes. I feel like.

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Speaker 1: She is so green, which is a compliment because she's so honest about everything. Whereas I know if something is watching the scene and her, you know, watching Jennifer's confessionals, that something is not going to think what she's saying is funny because what we learned this scene, which to me, it took us to have Jennifer Tilley sort of paint the picture for us. Alexis right, Yes, So they're talking about her ex husband. As we all know, Sutton, it's Catholic, so is her husband.

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Speaker 3: He had their.

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Speaker 1: Marriage annulled in the Catholic Church is not recognized anymore, and by default she has to go back to Brown, right?

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Speaker 2: Can I hold your thought on that?

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Speaker 4: First of all, what makes me upset about that is I don't give a darn what the church says. She is legally Sutton Strack if she doesn't want to change her name, the church can't override what the legal document is that she has from you know, the marriage certificate and all that. I mean, or just even what's on her like that's her legal name right now?

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Speaker 2: Am I wrong?

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Speaker 4: Or can the church not go and say, okay, we can wipe you from the church is as Suet and Stracked, But sorry, my license still says it. It's on every mortgage I've had and everything every I don't know. I just it makes me mad because I'm like, for me, I feel like that's just that's just something that shouldn't be possible. I'm sorry to all the Catholic faith and all of that, because I'm Christian and I don't know all those rules and such, but I just think that you should not be able to just take somebody's last name when they have all the legal documentation.

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Speaker 2: For that last name. So I think Sutton should keep it and just be like, I don't care.

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Speaker 4: If I'm not Sutton Strack in the church, I'm still Sutton Strack Brownstrack hyphenated.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, what do you well?

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of it has to do with the fact of how she's recognized as social cirtcles. I don't I don't believe for a second has anything to do with you.

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Speaker 3: Know, oh am, I still your mother? Like what is Sutton? Shut up?

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Speaker 2: That was?

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Speaker 3: That is so stupid?

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Speaker 1: Like stop, like, well, I'm a wrong woman if mother, no, no, no, your your your your your child is not fogers Zelding.

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Speaker 3: Great.

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Speaker 4: I'm in the same situation though, and I'm gonna play Devil's advocate because first of all, it does bother my children slightly, not a ton, and now they're kind of over.

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Speaker 2: But at the.

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Speaker 4: Beginning it did they were like, well, are you gonna take John's last name?

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Speaker 2: Like, you're not gonna have our last name anymore?

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Speaker 4: Like, and my kids are eighteen, eighteen and nineteen, they're adults, but so it does do something to like, you know, but then John's like, but my mom doesn't have my last name and it's fine. I'm like, yeah, And I told my kids, my mom got remarried and doesn't have my last name, you know, and then I got married. By the way, Kenna's gonna get remarried my daughter, and then she's not gonna have Bullino anymore.

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Speaker 3: So.

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Speaker 4: I but at the very beginning, when you're when you're making a transition, I totally got why Sentence had that conversation with her daughter. And you know, I just my kids are totally fine and like whatever, mom do whatever.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I think they would deep down appreciate it if I would hyphenate it. I do.

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Speaker 4: I but they are mature an adult about it and just like, no, take his last name, that's your husband. So I mean, that's These are conversations obviously we've had. I've been married four months now, so this was you know, ten months ago that we had that conversation.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, so I kind.

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Speaker 4: Of du'ts Devil's advocate for white setting this feeling that way. It's when it's new.

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Speaker 3: It kind of doesn't call a Catholic advocate.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, another good one. You're on today, you're on.

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Speaker 4: You had your coffee. So anyway, that's just okay, now move on. I'm sorry to interrupt your thought, but I didn't want to know.

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Speaker 3: I love that.

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Speaker 1: But that's the reason why I love doing these recaps with you, because you know, listen, obviously you don't live in Beverly Hills, but you're a life you know, there's there's parallels with some of these women's stories. And that's why I love your your commentary with this, because you show me a different view. I would not have never guessed that your children even would.

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Speaker 4: Question that and guess what they hadn't until it came to the time, like when we were engaged for a year, we were with I was with John for three years, and I was engaged before to another person, and they never brought it up, thinking, you know, are you going to take his last name or anything. It was when we actually were getting we were wedding planning, you know, and then it's like they're like, oh, it's around the corner, and the closer it got, that's when the conversation came up.

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Speaker 2: But it did, you know, And I didn't think I would ever hear that.

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Speaker 4: Question come out of their mouth because I'd been engaged before and it never came up, and then I'd been with John for two years or something and it never came up, and then right before the wedding it comes up, and I'm like, oh, you know, I had to I had to actually take a beat and think, what do I really want to do?

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Speaker 2: What do?

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Speaker 4: What does Alexis want to do? I knew what John wanted, what I knew. My kids were kind of, you know, teetering about it.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, what does Alexis want to do? And so I chose and there you go.

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Speaker 4: So anyway, I felt for something in that moment, and I think now she'll probably look back on it and once it's done, she's probably like, it's no big deal now. But it's, like I said, it's the beginning of it, the beat, starting the process, which is kind of like, oh.

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Speaker 1: This is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show.

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Speaker 3: Okay. When Jennifer Tilley, okay, rebuild that look.

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Speaker 1: When she first missed Sutton, it was married to her now ex husband, right, I believe his name is Charlie or something.

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Speaker 3: Jennifer says.

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Speaker 1: When she first missed Sutton, she was married to Christian and they had this image that everything seems to be okay, and that's how they presented themselves to be, which to me is very on brand for the instract that I've been watching all these seasons of her presidence on the show. Jennifer Dimmerville's I think Sutton isn't really being honest about how mad she is about the situation because Christian started dating one of her best friends, and Lex says, I said, the fuck up?

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Speaker 4: Do you realize when we get to the end of this podcast today, I'm gonna I'm gonna recap with you on all the new information that was brought on this one episode that is like where my floor, my mouth was chin was on the floor, Like like, I'm like, oh my gosh, that's such new information.

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Speaker 2: There's like three or four things of it.

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Speaker 3: Now, which is why this episode wasn't bad.

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Speaker 4: Right, reason right, because we did get to really peel the curtain back and see more into their lives. Here's the comment I wanted to know what you thought about got or no, Jennifer Teely goes, you know the sut and I knew ten years ago was chic cultured board on the board of of the what was it called UH theaters or something like some on some board committee, and I'm like, so as Jennifer implying that Sutton is no longer chic or cultured, like in my mind, I'm like, if you're saying she was and used to be the Sutton you used to know, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Like, I don't think that. I think Sutton is still totally cultured.

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Speaker 4: And and and chic and classy, Like everybody can have a melt down here and they're even the classiest woman. So I was just like, I was like, Okay, Jennifer, you're really going in now, you're going in for it.

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Speaker 1: She And that's why I said to you earlier that Jennifer is honest. Right, She's honest, Henrietta, She's telling us everything, and I know someting doesn't like it.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: I think something will take that as a dis I don't think Jennifer was dissing her.

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Speaker 3: I think this. I think this. I think this.

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Speaker 1: If Sutton was still married to Christian, she would never be a housewife.

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Speaker 3: She would have never applied for this show.

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Speaker 4: Well, he probably wouldn't have wanted it, right, he seems more per Yeah, I don't think he would have wanted it.

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Speaker 1: Oh not at all, even even if she she in my opinion, this is my opinion on whose son Sutton Brown is. Honey, Sorry something, I'll call you some track later. Now, I think she was one of those women who's stuck her nose up in the air, right.

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Speaker 2: Boers, right now we're seeing all of the.

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Speaker 3: Subtrack was like this, Honey.

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Speaker 1: I think she was one of those women Alexis who turned her nose up at women who were reality stars, right.

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Speaker 4: Why because because she was living in that image or putting on that image.

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Speaker 6: Okay, it's all about right, Okay, Okay, Again, at that time where she's she's married, honey, she's married to a man who is managing two hundred billion.

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Speaker 3: Dollar of assets.

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Speaker 1: So she's in these rooms, right, And when Jennifer met her, Jennifer Tilly, who made her money through her husband creating the Simpsons, go ahead, Jennifer there in the rooms together, and I think Jennifer looked at her like, oh, well, she's a woman of you know, great means and all these other stuff. And I think saw Jennifer as like a funny friend. Right when the divorce happened, I think Sutton had to do something to show Christian.

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Speaker 3: That she did not need him anymore, and.

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Speaker 1: She became a reality star, and that's why her first season she told Teddy Mellencamp, I thought you were gonna be boring, and then, oh god, you're also pregnant.

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Speaker 3: She Steve was pretentious.

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Speaker 1: And I think what Jennifer was saying is who Sudden was when I met her as Christian's wife.

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Speaker 3: That's not the sudden. Who is who's throwing back the bottles right allegedly?

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Speaker 1: Who is you know, telling dread argue with somebody who's wallet match yours.

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Speaker 3: Mike, She's looking at her like, that's not who she is.

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Speaker 1: But I'm going to defend Sutton today because if my best friend started dating my ex husband, the father of my kids and did it behind my back, I too would never be the same.

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Speaker 2: Oh Carlos I was.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, I was gonna say, let's give Sutton a break, because when you go through a divorce in general, it's not the it's the hardest thing you've ever done. Think God, her kids were older and you're not worrying about divving up children time. But so yeah, she probably lost it for a little bit and drank a little bit more than she did and wasn't as classy or chic as she was, you know when she was had this perfect life look looking like it was a perfect life. But yeah, you could totally be right that she was just like, see, I can do my own thing, and and she probably needed it.

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Speaker 2: She probably needed something.

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Speaker 4: To do to get, you know, to not be so thinking so much about you know, soaking in her wallow or war worries or whatever.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, yeah, Now listen, it's it's hard to be married to somebody for sixteen years, have three children with this person, and the slore alleged that you were hanging out with is dating your husband? Because for me, it was sort of like, were you two flirting behind my back?

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Speaker 4: Was there always something you'd always wonder? Was there always something there? Am I an idiot? All these family trips we would take together, or what we would do together, or when you would come over to my house and hang out, is my husband googling you, you know, googling at you the whole time? Or God, I don't know, I'm having trouble with words today. I didn't have enough coffee. But anyway, like like just always looking your direction, I mean.

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Speaker 2: That is so hard Carlos.

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Speaker 4: Have you ever oh you said that in the gay community, it doesn't matter if y'all flip around and everybody just dates.

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Speaker 2: I used to write the proper word for now.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yes, yes, like.

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Speaker 2: Everyone's sharing each other.

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Speaker 3: But like it's a small it's a small community.

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Speaker 2: I get that. But in the hetero world, it's like I want to. I mean I can't.

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Speaker 4: I don't even know a friend right now that I can think of off the top of my head that I can go, oh, yeah, this happened to someone I know, because that's just so.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, people thought you as Shannon were friends when the whole jockey Oh I.

00:25:27
Speaker 4: Know, but oh my god, hello, I mean I know, but now didn't. And I never filmed a season with her either until season eighteen when they brought me in as the villain. But so no, but you know, I don't just because I live in the same town as her and she happen to be on a TV show that I never watched and I didn't know his name barely. It's like I can still date him. I don't look at that as being like it's your friend. It's like knowing someone that works at Neiman Marcus and dating their ex husband is different than dating someone's friend that's in your circle, is what I'm trying to say.

00:26:00
Speaker 3: Hold, I agree, Yeah, because.

00:26:03
Speaker 4: We're older now, so it's like at forty five and fifty and sixty years old, you know, there's but there's there's a lot of people that have dated other people by that age, you know, when they're single.

00:26:14
Speaker 2: So okay, anyway, you want some more tea?

00:26:17
Speaker 4: Yeah?

00:26:17
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I love tea. I want some coffee too, though, Do you give me that?

00:26:22
Speaker 3: Well, baby, I'm about to fill your.

00:26:24
Speaker 1: Your come up not with folgers, but with spicy grounds coffee grounds, honey, So give it Sutton.

00:26:37
Speaker 3: Okay, Soton's as Christian? Can you believe this?

00:26:40
Speaker 1: Alexis Christian filed for divorce on Sutton's birthday?

00:26:49
Speaker 2: No, he did not.

00:26:51
Speaker 1: Without telling her, and then came to her birthday party with the cake.

00:26:57
Speaker 4: It is worked found out the next day that he had filed on her birthday.

00:27:01
Speaker 2: How did she find out? Did he put pup out of the cake? Like he had the cake opened up and it's here's here's your divorce papers.

00:27:08
Speaker 3: Sign him now, please, here's.

00:27:11
Speaker 1: A gift free a last Okay, well.

00:27:14
Speaker 4: He should have had to make a guy pop out of the cake and handle the divorce.

00:27:18
Speaker 3: A little bit better. Okay, No, So.

00:27:24
Speaker 1: To answer your question the day after, so remember, he filed for divorce on her birthday, which to me, that man don't like you, and that's fucked up again almost unsigned, that's fucked up.

00:27:36
Speaker 3: He doesn't like you.

00:27:37
Speaker 2: Here's with someone that's just not kind.

00:27:39
Speaker 1: It gets worse, so he followed her birthday unbeknownst to her. The day after her birthday, he called her en route to Florida and told her she needed to get an attorney. He had moved out, so they were separated, but she didn't think that they'll be separated forever.

00:28:00
Speaker 3: And that's why she says.

00:28:02
Speaker 1: She cries all up the time because although they were separated, to file on her birthday was a strong message to her.

00:28:13
Speaker 3: And then to tell her the day after her birthday, Oh, get a lawyer.

00:28:19
Speaker 1: But then after you file, you show up through her birthday party with cake. That's a nasty man.

00:28:26
Speaker 4: Hey, he doesn't I don't know him, and I hate to speak about someone I don't know, but he doesn't sound kind at all. And then he dates her best friend or her just even even if it's not, I don't think it's probably her best friend. But a girl in the circle like that's one of Yeah, I mean, how much worse can I get? And by the way, does this girl think that he's a stand up guy? If all this occurred, and I mean, is she I mean, I would, I would have the flags going off in my brain.

00:28:52
Speaker 2: I'd be like a little red flag.

00:28:54
Speaker 3: Good point, no, good point.

00:28:56
Speaker 4: Everyone thinks they're going to change the guy, You're never going to change him. Once a cheaters, probably always a cheater. I mean, and I know he's not a cheater, but I'm just saying it's the same kind of thing. It's like he did he has this. You know, we just named five things, and god forbid. If he's actually a really good guy and we're sitting here, you know, talking about this right now.

00:29:13
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

00:29:13
Speaker 1: It's all about character. The moment you file on your wife's birthday, dude.

00:29:18
Speaker 4: That's well, and show up with a cake and then call her the next day. There's three hundred and sixty five days in the year. You don't have to pick.

00:29:24
Speaker 2: The one day. You don't have to pick Christmas. You don't have to pick her birthday. You don't have to pick Valentine's Day, aning of.

00:29:29
Speaker 4: The days of the year, the forty five, the forty five holidays, stay away from them, you know.

00:29:35
Speaker 3: Ah, I'm a ghost.

00:29:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, But to me, the reason why that scene was necessary to me is because we were able to get gain some insight. The only thing I want to do, which look, she's not going to do it because she does want to give the woman any satisfaction, right, But it's a lot of whammies in that one situation that I would have love for her to say. Obviously that hurt me. I mean, granted she said seizes ago that that's why she cries a lot. That's that's fucked up. Before the record, I do want the rain drops to know they were separated.

00:30:11
Speaker 4: So so you said separated because you were reading all that information you had, uh did a good job of datelighting.

00:30:17
Speaker 2: So when they you said he'd moved out, So he had.

00:30:20
Speaker 4: He had physically moved up separated, but they his stuff is not in the house any longer.

00:30:24
Speaker 3: He had moved on.

00:30:25
Speaker 1: Well, she said he moved out and they were separated, but she did not think the separation would last forever.

00:30:32
Speaker 4: Well, and again, a lot of people hope that you can get Yeah, and again.

00:30:36
Speaker 1: What and again that doesn't make him a bad guy. His character flaw to me. That makes him a bad guy to me is following on her birthday that's fucked up.

00:30:47
Speaker 2: No, one hundred percent, and then to further with that, bring the cake. And then to further that the day.

00:30:52
Speaker 4: After the birthday, tell her to get an attorney, and then further after that to date a girlfriend that's one of her friends. I mean, that's just too an, you know what I mean. It's not like, oh there was one one wrong thing, Carlos, that's like five that do show ye character. So yeah, button, you know, and you know, it's kind of like I feel like Kyle thinks that, like Mauricio and her are separated, and I feel like neither of them are actually filing. So I'm thinking one of them or both of them probably think that it's not going to be a forever thing.

00:31:21
Speaker 2: Sutton probably felt that.

00:31:23
Speaker 3: No, I'm laughing, listen.

00:31:25
Speaker 1: I want to say this, and you could disagree like you like you do when you when you feel it. I laugh because I thought you was gonna say the obvious to me, which is Kyle thinks the separation is temporarily, while bitch Mauricio is like, this is permanent.

00:31:45
Speaker 2: No, you know why I don't think so. You know why I don't agree with you, and I knew you were going to probably think that.

00:31:50
Speaker 4: You know why I don't agree with you is because Mauricio hasn't ran to the courthouse either, now has he?

00:31:56
Speaker 6: Carlos Huh, Because he's actually a good person who has character.

00:32:02
Speaker 4: But if you're not gonna wait for her to go go do it, she'll never do it.

00:32:05
Speaker 1: No, I think listen, I think this, and I'm sorry, ladies, I'm gonna tell you how man think Mauricio has his cake and he's eating it too, right because they.

00:32:16
Speaker 4: Don't just share the money. They're not splitting assets. He's doing everything the kids are. It's like we're still married. But like at the same time, if he does find someone that he falls.

00:32:25
Speaker 3: For, he's not.

00:32:26
Speaker 2: He's not.

00:32:27
Speaker 4: You think he's just gonna have a jiggleo a playboy the whole time.

00:32:31
Speaker 3: Yes, that.

00:32:34
Speaker 2: Even miss a beat with that.

00:32:36
Speaker 1: Maurizio is the Leonardo DiCaprio of reality television.

00:32:40
Speaker 3: He will be a forever bachelor.

00:32:44
Speaker 4: But Leonardo has girlfriends for like fifteen years or like a long time, like doesn't he or does he?

00:32:48
Speaker 3: Is he? Oh?

00:32:50
Speaker 2: They're like in and out three year, three year, three months.

00:32:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, it's like a rotation.

00:32:55
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, your three year contract is uh so.

00:33:00
Speaker 2: He's got a three year maximum?

00:33:02
Speaker 1: Yes, I think Mauricio. But to me it makes sense. It's sort of like, look here we are. I am not about to split my assets that the money that he and cow have to split.

00:33:18
Speaker 3: Is so what's the word I'm looking for. It's it's so.

00:33:26
Speaker 2: Mingled.

00:33:27
Speaker 1: It's called mingo and and the amount is so massive that it's gonna take a while for it to be figured out.

00:33:36
Speaker 3: And I think this.

00:33:37
Speaker 1: I think Mauricio's character shows that he will never do anything Gada stop. He will never do anything to embarrass Kyle. That's my opinion. I think he is a he's a girl dad, And I think I think Mauricio will never do anything that will lose the respect that his.

00:34:01
Speaker 3: Daughter's half of him.

00:34:03
Speaker 4: Well, honey to shay On that he already has. His daughters were humiliated that he was hooking up with people in the valet lot and such. Sorry he lost there. You saw his daughters they were already they were they said that, but it's sane, like, come on, now, they lost a little respect for him, did they Did they lose love for him? Heck no, but they lost the respect for him a little bit. They're like, Okay, no, mom, this is he's gross. That's grossing me out, Like kind of stop, I just gotta call it. I mean, we're on a recap. I mean, people, we got a recap, so you gotta there were no one's ever gonna want to listen to us.

00:34:45
Speaker 2: But then we get we get we.

00:34:46
Speaker 4: Get ridiculed because we're speaking too much of the truth and it's like, well, let's we gotta be truthful. Yeah you.

00:34:53
Speaker 3: Shp so no.

00:34:56
Speaker 1: As we this listed as Alexis intimated earlier, this episode to us had three bombshe of revelations. We talked about the first one, which is his ex husband dating her former friend. We now have to get into the Erica Jane Thera pissed meeting where she talked about how she's being sued for twenty five million dollars and that Tom left her with a ten million dollar tax bill. Before I get your thoughts, Alexis, I want to let the audience know why this twenty five million dollar lawsuit is even happening, so she is set to hit to federal trial regarding over twenty five million and allegedly fraudulent transfers from her and strange husband Tom Derawdy's law firm to her company, EJ Global. The lawsuit claims these fonts covered luxury items and personal expenses. So that's the reason why she's enrolled in this lawsuit because once again they're saying that the money he stole he transferred to her company, and that that money that he transferred to the company was used for her to live his lavish lifestyle.

00:36:28
Speaker 2: I mean, I have a question for you.

00:36:29
Speaker 4: I don't know if I know the answer, but like I am so just I had heard that rumor, but I hadn't read it in the press or anything about that Erica was going to trial. And I think the reason they're filming that scene is because it's coming up, right, That's what's bothering Erica is like it's around that she's going to the trial. But I'm just so beside myself about it, and I so, what happens Carlos or do you even know? This is probably an attorney question only, but what happens when she's left with basically thirty five million dollars of and she doesn't have the money.

00:36:59
Speaker 2: What do they do? Like are they taking her checks?

00:37:01
Speaker 3: Like?

00:37:01
Speaker 4: Are they going to start taking your checks? And she's gonna have to live in poverty, like she has to be.

00:37:05
Speaker 2: Able to live.

00:37:07
Speaker 3: So this is this is the thing.

00:37:09
Speaker 1: What I do know is because it's the money was transferred to her company and not to Erica Jane the person.

00:37:18
Speaker 2: Oh, she can bankrupt the company.

00:37:19
Speaker 3: Thank you that there you go.

00:37:21
Speaker 2: Thank god, she.

00:37:22
Speaker 1: Could file for bankruptcy not have any personal liability.

00:37:27
Speaker 2: It's just still no great thing. I mean, it just gets her out of the hot water. But it's no great thing.

00:37:31
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no.

00:37:32
Speaker 1: And listen, depending on the judgment from the core, we don't know, because you fought for bankruptcy, if you still have to pay it back. But the thing is, it's a lot of this is unfortunate because he's the one who did the activity. It's not like it's reverse right, It's not like she stole the money transferred to his account like and to.

00:38:01
Speaker 2: Go even further, it's not like she even knew it was happening. This was all behind her back.

00:38:05
Speaker 4: It's kind of like the Judicies situation, Teresa's situation, it's like or Judee, but it's she had no clue and then she still has to serve prison time. Erica had no clue and she's got forty thirty five thousand dollars of debt behind her name.

00:38:19
Speaker 1: Now it's horrible, it's it's it's sad and man for the ten million dollars tax.

00:38:25
Speaker 4: Bill, well I'm adding that to the twenty five million, so that's thirty five thousand.

00:38:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, So but you know, are brilliant. Yeah, to see.

00:38:35
Speaker 2: Her vulnerability and just finally break down.

00:38:38
Speaker 4: It's like, you know, she does seem so stoic and so strong and then you actually have to see that it's crushing her. You know, she probably doesn't sleep much, keeps you awake at night, you.

00:38:47
Speaker 3: Know, one of the moments.

00:38:50
Speaker 1: And we'll get to the part that continues what was for Bill last week, But before we get to that, I thought Erica Jane was so real and honest in this.

00:39:03
Speaker 3: Scene when she was like, but when is it going to get better?

00:39:08
Speaker 1: And I think it's easy for people who aren't in it to say no, it will, but look where you at now. You should be grateful for these things, and I do subscribe to that right. I always try to find the things to be grateful for in the midst of a turmoil. I will also say it's easier said than done.

00:39:27
Speaker 3: I look at her and when you when you really take a.

00:39:32
Speaker 1: When you sit back and you look at who we were introduced too. It was this vivacious pop singer that was flying private glamor retainer. She lives a fabulous life, and I think she lived it. I will go on record, and I have gone on record, and Rika J knows personally I feel this way because we talked about it. I will always go on record saying I don't believe she knew what was going on.

00:40:05
Speaker 3: Oh I think.

00:40:06
Speaker 1: I think, like most women who marry wealthy men, she just thought, like his business is good. Aaron Brockavish movie is about what he did, like the money's rolling again. I married a successful guy and then to know what he was doing behind the scenes. I don't think she knew, and I think it's hard for her to try to move on from that life. And I thought this stuff she was saying was so real.

00:40:37
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I agree, And I think what the audience needs to kind of keep in mind with this and why they probably you know, I think even everybody that talks to her probably is like, oh, but she's fine.

00:40:49
Speaker 4: It is because when you're filming, she can put on a smiley face, put on the cutest outfit, you know, get her glam squad in to do her hair and makeup, and film that short two hour scene or five hour scene, whatever it is. But then it's the rest of the time that she's probably distraught and hurting, especially at night time when you're going to bed and you're laying your head on the pillow and it's dark, and your mind starts racing and you go through all these things and you think about how awful that was for your husband husband to do that to you.

00:41:14
Speaker 3: You know.

00:41:15
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's like everyone can think, oh, she's fine and she's moving on just fine, and then you see that scene and you're like, reality that she's not fine, and the you know, when the room gets quiet, I'm sure she's not fine. She has a great therapist. I really liked her therapist. Her therapist what to say.

00:41:33
Speaker 3: No, she's good, she's good, she's good.

00:41:35
Speaker 1: So she also revealed in this scene that she did tell Denise about her domestic violence situation too. The one thing that came out of it that was new information was when she did tell her therapist about it, she made it seem like she was talking about someone else because there was so much shame around it, which again is so relatable to a lot of women men who have been in that situation before. And I thought that was another layer of honesty from Erica where I also could see her point of view, like you first want to talk about it as if your friend is going through it, just to get the advice without judgment, until obviously she revealed her therapist that it was her who was going through it. But I agree with the therapist too, like not that you released, it is.

00:42:30
Speaker 3: Now your time for healing, but Erica crying about.

00:42:35
Speaker 1: When is all of this going to be over, going to have a break, And then the therapist said, Honey, I hate to break the news to you. As long as you're in this life, you're never gonna have a break. And I just thought that was like the harshest truth and the reality of the situation, like as long as you're breathing, I can't I'm not going to promise you alike without turmoil or pain is going to happen, but it's about how you get through it.

00:43:05
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's it's probably, you know something Erica can't even process hearing that at this point right now, because I feel like when you're I feel like it's kind of like if you have a sudden death, like my parents died slower like I knew, but like like imagine, like I picture it like this.

00:43:19
Speaker 2: If you're a god.

00:43:21
Speaker 4: For abud, I don't even to say, someone you love the most in the world gets into a car crash and that instant and they're gone. It's almost like your numb at first, and and like you can't even like process at all. And then it's like you start, you know, really grieving after the fact. And I feel like Erica didn't really like I feel like she was numb and she was kind of like that didn't just that didn't happen to me. She was like in denial almost because it was just like it hadn't registered yet. So when you actually verbally speak it out, like the therapist said, then it's like okay, and then it's like the you know, the water gates open and she starts bawling, and then it's like, okay, now I can now it's out, and now is when the healing does start. And I did love when the therapist said, girlfriend, your closer, not all going to ever always be folded and everyone's healthy and everything's fine, and you're not worried about this or that. There's always something. I swear it is like every time John and I turn around. Right now, we're in one of those cloud moments when it's like what we turn around and like his his audi starts smoking and I have to take my audience to get the service on it.

00:44:20
Speaker 2: This is this week, okay, on Monday. So I have a Tuesday appointment.

00:44:23
Speaker 4: Had it book for a week because I need a rental car for my you know, my kids are using the other ones.

00:44:27
Speaker 2: So so then I have this appointment on Tuesday.

00:44:30
Speaker 4: So he calls me on his way here to my house and he's like, my car just started affuming.

00:44:34
Speaker 2: I gotta go back, and I go few, it's new. What are we doing? So he goes back and he goes skip the loaner on.

00:44:40
Speaker 4: Tuesday, okay, takes my my spot okay, because I'm like, well you need my spot where siding.

00:44:44
Speaker 2: I'll do get another one for next week. So he goes and takes my spot.

00:44:47
Speaker 4: It's coming down to my house Tuesday night, okay, because I'm working down here.

00:44:50
Speaker 2: He's working there. Comes to my house Tuesday night, that car starts shaking.

00:44:54
Speaker 4: Like dude, He's like, He's like, Lex, I'm five miles from my house.

00:44:57
Speaker 2: I have to turn around. I can't even drive the car. All the lights just came on. I've got to go back.

00:45:01
Speaker 4: Audi had to come toe that car and bring him another one for Wednesday.

00:45:05
Speaker 2: All of this happened in twenty four hours. I'm like, what is going on with our cars?

00:45:09
Speaker 4: Like, I'm scared to get in my car every time I get in now, But it's going to happen.

00:45:15
Speaker 2: I know. It's always something, and.

00:45:16
Speaker 4: It's like, right when you get where you feel like everything's calm, there's something new happens, and I just so I feel for Eric on that though, but we have to be realistic here.

00:45:24
Speaker 2: Her level of what's occurring is on a different scale.

00:45:28
Speaker 1: Okay, It's un imaginable, And that's why I appreciate her being so vulnerable because she's not that's not who we know her to be. Right, she keeps thinking close to her chest, but I love the freedom of her at least trying to show us like, this is what's going on with me, and I'm being honest about it because that wasn't always the case. But I think she's doing an excellent job letting us in.

00:46:01
Speaker 3: I love it.

00:46:02
Speaker 4: It definitely helped us get to know her more, which was is what the audience loves.

00:46:06
Speaker 1: So now onto the final and third revelation.

00:46:12
Speaker 3: Where am I going? Right?

00:46:14
Speaker 2: We're on to Rachel.

00:46:17
Speaker 3: Alexis so rain drops.

00:46:21
Speaker 1: Kyle will you will remain my favorite housewife?

00:46:26
Speaker 3: You will?

00:46:27
Speaker 1: However, Rachelseau, Ronald Blaus, I mean the the the.

00:46:37
Speaker 3: The honesty I can list. This is a good thing. But Kyle, I love you. Rachelseeau is so fucking good on this show.

00:46:52
Speaker 1: And in her first season, not only is she talking about her divorce, my girl revealed that she cheated on Roger, her now ex husband, but back then it was her boyfriend. How she fooled around with this model he was so hot, pretty buch.

00:47:10
Speaker 3: She had to do it.

00:47:11
Speaker 1: She admitted it, and and the fact that Roger proposed to her the next day.

00:47:19
Speaker 4: And I love Kyle's This is why Kyle should always say your favorite Kyle gets on her confessional and goes something like, well, is that how you.

00:47:27
Speaker 2: Really want to start a marriage. Like, I'm like, Kyle will go there, Kyle will go there.

00:47:33
Speaker 3: Don't go there. That's all I love her, that's all I love her. She'll go there.

00:47:37
Speaker 4: Rachel, Oh my gosh. Not only does she admit that hurt, didn't hurt? Okay, maybe I'm wrong about this when they were having that dinner, didn't, she kind of admit that her her ex husband or seem to be x husband, also cheated on her.

00:47:51
Speaker 2: That's one of the reasons why.

00:47:52
Speaker 1: Okay, so well, pretty much, I'm I'm grabbing that she's dropping.

00:47:57
Speaker 3: I'm picking up what she's dropping.

00:47:59
Speaker 2: I was thinking.

00:47:59
Speaker 1: Also, yeah, Roger allegedly cheated on her and the woman he cheated on her whip. They're together, which is why she don't mind her son's not liking this woman.

00:48:14
Speaker 3: Right, I don't have to.

00:48:15
Speaker 2: Stay there if she's there, you don't have to stay there.

00:48:17
Speaker 3: Exactly exactly. She's like, you can leave.

00:48:20
Speaker 2: And they're not enough to be alone yet.

00:48:23
Speaker 3: Oh, she's like, Mommy will or to your uber to come back home.

00:48:27
Speaker 2: And I will hire the nanny to come back to be at your.

00:48:30
Speaker 3: Husband exactly, please, like, this is what we're doing. The thing is this. She was so honest about the fact that she met this man.

00:48:41
Speaker 1: He was an investment banker and she's in her twenties and she's trying out to be like this this amazing stylist working with these big time celebrities, working twenty hours today, and he pushed her like, do it be great. I'm not jealous of all of this. I'm pushing to do it. Ultimately, they're business partners and she's thinking like, Okay, this is our live we're best friends. And then she kept saying something happened and.

00:49:08
Speaker 3: The reason like, but was the thing that happened?

00:49:12
Speaker 2: Fill us in, like, don't leave it, give us some info here.

00:49:16
Speaker 7: Yes, and she's like, well, we had an argument, and then she talked about a phone how she never snooped ever in their tenure of being in a relationship and marriage, but she decided to do it.

00:49:29
Speaker 1: So what I what I gathered was she saw a message that he was you know that pretty much revealed that he was cheating on her. They argued about it, and she broke up with I mean, she didn't break up with them, but obviously she's upset about it. But the thing that I also got from it was and this is my ladies, sometimes men would try to humble you. When she said that, he pretty much said, I like this new person that I am today, and I'm glad we went through this because I wouldn't not have wanted to be in this marriage being the old Roger instead of being this new man that I am.

00:50:14
Speaker 3: And this is what I like, And how pretty much he wanted her to find this out. Yeah, but alexis shaking.

00:50:27
Speaker 4: I mean, it's all these people that are you know, dating people that are in the circle, Like.

00:50:30
Speaker 2: Does she know the girl? Does she? Is she familiar with Roger's girl? Just like the whole I.

00:50:35
Speaker 3: Don't think I think Rachel would have told us that.

00:50:38
Speaker 5: I don't.

00:50:38
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't think so, which is why she's so angry at him.

00:50:42
Speaker 2: But she did catch it in the phone.

00:50:45
Speaker 4: Yes, and he and the guy, the girl she the girl that Roger cheated.

00:50:51
Speaker 2: On her with, is his current girlfriend.

00:50:53
Speaker 1: Now, that's why I believe, yes, which is why she doesn't like her.

00:51:00
Speaker 3: I didn't.

00:51:01
Speaker 4: I didn't gather that when I was watching it, so I yeah, wow, I missed that. But Okay, well it's just it's just one more dust, I mean, here we go.

00:51:12
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, it it it again.

00:51:16
Speaker 4: It. I love the vulnerability though, and the honesty that's coming on, and that these women are showing us that, yes, they have these posh, amazing lifestyles and fabulous lifestyles and still they should all be so happy and so like, you know, like so look at their life and say, okay, we do have a good life. But yet they're showing that even those girls are going.

00:51:37
Speaker 2: Through it right now.

00:51:38
Speaker 3: R Yeah.

00:51:41
Speaker 1: And the fact that they were doing the haptains, you know, reflecting on the fact that it was the one year anniversary of her and Roger split. And look, this will always tell people when you're together with somebody for that long. I want to say, it was like thirty three years, more.

00:51:57
Speaker 4: Than half of her life or half, yeah, more than half of Yeah, it's a.

00:52:01
Speaker 1: Long time, which is why he feels like I'm not the same person you met, which is true because you grow into something else. But that's why I believe every five to ten years you have to redate your partner. You have to, like because as humans, we do evolve, and before it becomes to a point where you're stepping out and all of that really try to figure out, Like, like, I'm gonna tell your story and I'm not gonna say names, but I have a friend who is going through something where she's with this her husband for a long time, and she's like, I want something else.

00:52:50
Speaker 3: He did nothing.

00:52:51
Speaker 1: Wrong, not cheating, but they were together for so long that she's like, is it bad that I just want something else?

00:53:01
Speaker 2: Well, Carlos, it's it's Mauricio and Kyle. Neither of them did anything wrong.

00:53:06
Speaker 4: They were together forever. They just needed to change the flavor a bit. And you know, I could see that because you either grow together. And the key to that is you can't if someone wants to change a little bit, Like, say, five years from.

00:53:19
Speaker 2: Now, I'm not gonna be the same Alexis if John.

00:53:21
Speaker 4: If John tries to hold me back from where I'm changing and growing into, it's not gonna work.

00:53:25
Speaker 2: He's got to let me do it and grow with me. Vice versa for me with him. But he's not going to be the same in five years, you know.

00:53:33
Speaker 4: And who knows what endeavors we're gonna want or what new hobby we're gonna want to start, and you can't hold the person back. So I just wonder if it's that or if it's I mean, do they just get bored of their partner?

00:53:42
Speaker 2: You know, Like that's why all of it.

00:53:44
Speaker 4: I think the redating is very fabulously said, like you got to redate your started over, like act like you just met.

00:53:50
Speaker 1: Again, totally, totally and again, it's just it's just a thing that is super honest when it comes to how rights are in this life. And that's why for me, I encourage married couples or even if you're not married in a relationship, really reassess your relationship maybe a couple of years, just to make sure you guys on the same page and and really have like these deep, honest conversations, because it's not always to the point where it's like, well, you know.

00:54:19
Speaker 3: I'm stepping out. And I think with Roger, I think Roger just.

00:54:25
Speaker 1: Wanted something different and and and he didn't let Rachel in on that.

00:54:30
Speaker 4: You look at Rachel and you're like, how could you want anything different than the most fabulous person that ever existed.

00:54:35
Speaker 2: It's like, I don't get it.

00:54:36
Speaker 4: It's like, Okay, what did he possibly need accept a younger girl with a girl younger that he's daying.

00:54:41
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I assume.

00:54:42
Speaker 1: He he has exiled himself out of the limelight.

00:54:48
Speaker 2: What do you mean, like.

00:54:50
Speaker 1: He's not out there publicly like you know, listen, you do be in situations sometimes when you know the guy is doing interviews on BLO podcasts, like he's.

00:55:02
Speaker 2: Just you're saying, he just went he went dark. He's gone.

00:55:04
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's just like he's going to live a normal life, not the Hollywood life.

00:55:08
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really hard to do.

00:55:09
Speaker 2: It's really hard to get out of the limelight even if you want to.

00:55:12
Speaker 4: I mean you have to kind of really like, I did he move out of LA, because if he's still in LA, it's really hard to get out of that whole like scene and have paparazzi and people around your business all the time.

00:55:22
Speaker 3: You want to gag one more time, you probab. Let you go.

00:55:24
Speaker 2: God, Yes, I love gagging. I mean I don't really only with you.

00:55:26
Speaker 3: Well, I'm.

00:55:30
Speaker 2: Only this kind of gagging.

00:55:36
Speaker 3: You racey girl.

00:55:37
Speaker 2: I love you about vomiting. What are you talking about? Oh you okay, mister, get your head out.

00:55:44
Speaker 3: Of the bag. I love it too for other reasons.

00:55:48
Speaker 2: Okay, some more team before I go get my coffee.

00:55:51
Speaker 1: Okay, you wouldn't know about his last Instagram post.

00:55:56
Speaker 2: Is he still public? Uh huh, Well he hasn't gotten out of the line like that much if he's still publish.

00:56:01
Speaker 1: Okay, yes, yes, okay, okay. For context, his second to last Instagram post was June eleventh, twenty twenty five.

00:56:13
Speaker 3: Okay, Oh my.

00:56:14
Speaker 4: Gosh, let's do the mouth on that. That's a year. That's almost a year ago. No, that's it's five it's six months ago.

00:56:21
Speaker 1: No, July August, it's eight months ago, right, so eight months ago.

00:56:28
Speaker 3: That was his second last posted, second to last.

00:56:32
Speaker 1: Now, his last Instagram post was that hold on what was that post?

00:56:36
Speaker 3: Okay?

00:56:37
Speaker 1: So the second to last post was reflecting on my trip to Israel last month with my family and friends in the most special place on earth. It was very emotional to bear witness to the aftermath of October seventh and spending time hearing from former hostages and their families. I am moved by the entire nation of Israel. Okay, wow, that's June eleventh. Now, this is December, July, six months after that. Rachel is on the real housepots at Billy Hills.

00:57:09
Speaker 4: Okay, this is December.

00:57:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is this is two months ago.

00:57:16
Speaker 2: Okay, so we were already recapping two months ago, or had we were?

00:57:19
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, it's what he says. It's a picture of Rachel Zoe with the title of a magazine saying Rachel's Oh. Brand gets snapped up by Gordon Brothers. He captioned, congratulations to Rachel, our entire team and anyone else who has supported us on this journey.

00:57:48
Speaker 4: Oh, okay, hold on, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta take that in for a second.

00:57:54
Speaker 3: So is he you want to see it? Sure?

00:57:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love a screenshare.

00:57:58
Speaker 4: So he's basically taking credit it for her for everything too.

00:58:04
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, how do I see? Okay, okay, it's a picture of Rachel. I don't see.

00:58:09
Speaker 4: Oh oh, it's not coming up. Hold on, well it's not coming up, but I'm gonna have to go to it now. Anyway, it's a picture you're saying, it's a picture of Rachel, and it says we are proud of you, and and yeah, okay, here it comes here, it comes here, it comes Oh boy.

00:58:24
Speaker 2: Rachel Brand. Zoe gets stepped up by Gordon Brothers. So is he part of that brand? I'm sure he was.

00:58:30
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so she sold it and that means that he gets a piece of it.

00:58:36
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, they have so much money, I don't think it really matters.

00:58:39
Speaker 1: Well no, but again again, he's a man. That was a message to the audience. As much shit as she's talking about me, I want to remind you, guys, I'm part of her company.

00:58:53
Speaker 4: He's like, I'm not such a bad guy because I helped build that business and I got I got fifty percent of that, you know, eight million dollars.

00:59:00
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, I got.

00:59:03
Speaker 3: I know.

00:59:03
Speaker 2: I see what you're saying.

00:59:05
Speaker 3: Oh okay, okay, so that you have it, that you have it.

00:59:08
Speaker 1: But listen this episode. I will say this once again. I enjoyed the revelations. I enjoyed the moments. I still want to see more, but I I enjoy the revelations and the runability. So congratulations to the Real Housewives of Belly Hills for this episode.

00:59:31
Speaker 2: I agree. I thought it was great.

00:59:33
Speaker 3: All right. So Rain Johns, Alexi Johnson will be.

00:59:38
Speaker 1: Tom Christer, Alexis Jason and I will be back next week for another recap of Belly Hills, Alexis, I love you, sister, and I'll see you soon.

00:59:47
Speaker 3: Hye bye, Blue Thang Guys.

00:59:53
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01:00:02
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01:00:04
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