Hour 3 – Jaxson Dart Is Reckless, Steve Young

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Speaker 3: Well, we didn't get to it last hour, Dan, but I threw an up Jackson Dart should start sliding and getting out of bounds. Yes or no? Unsurprisingly, ninety say yes.

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Speaker 2: Here's Jackson Dart on not changing his style of play.

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Speaker 4: Well, it sounds like a broken record, Jackson, just asking you about the hits and taking them and protecting yourself and things like that.

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Speaker 2: Is there anything you would have done different on that one?

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Speaker 4: No, look like I understand the question, but like this is like this is football, Like I'm gonna get hit if I'm in the pocket or outside the pocket, Like it's I don't I feel like I've played this way my whole entire life. This shouldn't be like any shock or anybody. If you've followed along with my career and I'm we're not playing like we're not playing soccer out here, like you're gonna get hit.

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Speaker 3: Things happen, it's part of the game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll talk to Steve Young about this because with Jackson dark you can't control if you get hit in the pocket, but you can control if you're outside the pocket, and if you can get out of bounds, then get out of bounds. I do like his style. I think it's an aggressive style. But I've seen too many quarterbacks think they can be a tough guy, be a football guy, and they could take on these defensive players, and you can't. I don't care who it is. Now. You do have Cam Newton, you have Josh Allen. Those guys unicorns because they're as big as the guys who are hitting them. You're seeing Laura Jackson run less than he used to, and I think that's a wise decision, Yes, Marvin.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: In the NFL you see a lot of You see a lot of rookie quarterbacks try to unlearn what they've been doing their entire careers, right, holding onto the ball too long, running not running out of bounds. So you have to teach them don't do this like you have to unlearn.

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Speaker 2: Then and that's the hard part, because you get away with this in college. You don't get away with this in the NFL. Devin mccordy, who played at a really high level for the Patriots, joined us last hour and he said, Hey, these guys are so much faster. This is not college. It's so much like you don't have that step that you think you have. And you have a scouting report who is going to go out of bounds? Who's going to take on contact here? And you can tell with body language if a quarterback is going to get out of bounds or not. And when Jackson Dart was running, you could tell he was not going to get out of bounds. Eight seven to seven three DP show email address dpat Danpatrick dot com, Twitter handle at DP show. So the Patriots have now won ten in a row. They've got Buffalo at Baltimore at the Jets, and then they host Miami. They can end up with fourteen wins this year?

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Speaker 5: Is that right?

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Speaker 2: Fourteen wins probably have home field advantage throughout and those superboards would probably change just a little bit there. All righty, A couple of phone calls in here, Moe in Arizona, Hi, Mo, what's on your mind today.

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Speaker 7: Born and Bennett.

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Speaker 5: Funny.

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Speaker 7: I actually took my wife to Hooters for Mother's Day. One day went presently well. I had to stare at wind up staring at all the TVs until you figured out, like, hey, you don't even watch hockey, what are you doing? Called in about Lane kipping. Yeah, I do believe he did talk to God. God told him how much the contract was and then he made a decision.

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Speaker 2: Thank you moo.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Paul, I think this Lane Kiffin contract thing is a bit of a flawed topic. He's going to make a little bit more at LSU and compared to Ole miss it's the money they're going to support to build the program to boy get the players. That's where the money's involved.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when they said that the salary was about the same, it's really about the infrastructure at LSU and LSU football. Nate in La Hi, Nate, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 9: Just a point on a lane tiff view points on lane tiffy thing. Definitely taking advantage of a system that as in college football. But I think for Alas they needed to look at an Wikipedia page and see like history repeats itself. Right, he wanted to coach the game. But then he did the same thing with Florida Atlantic to go I'm sorry to USC or Alabama to go at Florida Atlantic. They wouldn't let him play in the playoffs. And I just think it's a cautionary tale.

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Speaker 5: Y let's see him.

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Speaker 9: They're not gonna I'm gonna eat him Alaga.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't produce, he's going to be successful. I truly believe that Lane will be successful. And there's a lot of talent there, and he knows how to coach offense. And we've seen LSU with those offenses, what Joe Burrow had when they won a national title. And if you find your quarterback, you're going to find your wide receivers there. There's a whole lot of talent there. Lane Kiffin had his press conference yesterday and he talked about he wanted to stay at Old Miss to coach in the playoffs.

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Speaker 10: Leaving Old Miss was extremely difficult, and in that we tried every single thing possible to continue to coach the team through the playoffs. I mean, continue jos the players. In the end, that was their decision and we totally.

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Speaker 2: Respect that, Okay, And once again, we don't know those conversation, but if it's true. There was a report that he was trying to leverage that he was going to take coaches with him if they didn't let him coach in the playoffs. Then he told the athletic director, I'm going to I'm going to take my staff with me, or I'm and or I'm going to take players with me to try to get them to acquiesce. And they said no. And as long as Old Miss isn't punished because they lost their coach, that's the only thing here. The College Football Selection Committee, they they may lower Old Miss because without your coach. We've seen them do this when teams don't have their quarterbacks, and that is a big loss to lose Lane Kiffin. As you get ready for the playoffs, let's play the Lane Kiffin game. Oh maybe it's the last Lane Kiffin game that will play for twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 8: DA we played three Lane Kiffin games so far this year. This is the last one here.

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Speaker 5: It is.

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Speaker 11: Four years from now, Lane Kiffen will be.

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Speaker 8: There's four options at LSU, at another college coaching in the NFL working in the media.

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Speaker 2: Who would like to go first? Marvin, I'm going to start with you.

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Speaker 6: He will be at college game day.

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Speaker 2: Wow. Oh, so maybe he takes coach Saban's job after he talked to God. Yep, he talked, he succeeds coach Saban. Dylan, I four years, he's at LSU.

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Speaker 3: Still, it's his final stop.

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Speaker 2: Oh final coaching stop.

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Speaker 3: Final stop. Where else would you want to be? Then, he said to himself.

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Speaker 2: But he said that before at other places. Todd, what do you think?

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Speaker 12: I agree with Dylan? He did six years at all Miss. I can't see why he wouldn't through at least four.

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Speaker 3: With the Tigers.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to say Alabama. Oh specific, yeah, I'm going to Alabama.

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Speaker 3: There will be an opening there soon.

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Speaker 2: We don't know that. No, no, you can't say that. I can't spread these things allegedly. This is in the Gambling podcast, where you can say whatever you want to.

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Speaker 3: Okay, there may be an opening there and then there.

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Speaker 2: There could be there could be yeah. No, uh, Paulie, what are you going with?

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Speaker 8: I think I'm gonna say LSU. Even though the bar is high, he's taking over a wounded animal. I think in four years from now he'll still be there.

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Speaker 2: Todd has reminded me on numerous occasions. He has mock headlines for Lane Kiffin, So Todd, go ahead.

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Speaker 12: Let's roll them out. Bat and Scrooge Kiffen puts Coal in former team stockings for little holiday one.

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Speaker 2: Alright, rebel with a cause.

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Speaker 12: Lane shouldn't lament teaming up with Tigers, keeping the lane thing, the lane thing, No surprise, Lane left swing and ol Miss Oxford tries to match up for it, but to no avail.

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Speaker 2: I like, you know, got some base hits here, Missississi.

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Speaker 12: Coach handles exit poorly and immaturely, Missississy.

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Speaker 2: Calling him Mississi running from rebels.

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Speaker 12: Lane daunts to death Valley Uh three more quick ones a grove situation. Can Kiffin's former team survive loss of Lane?

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Speaker 2: Saban eight?

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Speaker 12: So did Nick nudge Lane to Louisiana? And the last one is Lane in the ass? Oh misthought they had.

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Speaker 2: A long term coach, but they didn't.

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Speaker 11: I was wondering if you're going to go there?

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Speaker 2: Thank you to uh Terry in South Dakota. Hi, Terry, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 13: Hey? First time caller, forty five years a football coach. I just kind of was wondering your thoughts. You know, there's lots of discussion about the state of college football, you know, uh, the movement of players, the movement of coaches, nil, all that, And I'm wondering what your thoughts are. Do you think that there's no structure, really no rules because the NC Double A has been sued and lost so many times that they're a little bit afraid to put in anything with any teeth that might set up something more definite where you know, you can't enter the portal if your team is still playing, you can't leave and go to another school, at least without some sort of a penalty, you know, because they don't really need another lawsuit. Do you think that has anything to do with their lack of ability to have a solid structure.

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Speaker 2: I think it's too big for them. I think the NC Double A should probably do secondary sports that I think college basketball and college football should have maybe an oversight committee. You should have a commissioner. You should have somebody who is the authoritarian and will rule on these things. You know, it's rare when you get an investigation with a school. It's usually you know Dan Wetzel when he was a Yahoo and he'd be like, ah, I got this deep dive, and then all of a sudden, you know, you'd have an investigation. You don't have that anymore. And if college football is going to be the minor leagues for professional football, then maybe have the same kind of structure there. And let's get rid of the student athlete that was coined back in the mid seventies. All the student athletes and all it is always about the student athlete. It's not. It's not about the student athlete. And I think it's business. This is all business. You go to college and if you want to get a degree, you can get a degree. But you might go to college and say, I'm this is one of my majoring in football to go play in the NFL. And you have every right to do that because we don't monitor these other kids who go to college and go, I want to be an electrical engineer, and then all of a sudden, they don't become an electrical engineer and you're like, no, that was wasted. Okay, yeah, I guess you could have gone to college and gotten a degree. These players, they don't care. A lot of these players don't care. They're there. It's a means to an end that I have to go to class, and they're going to go into the NFL. They all think they have a chance.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Paully, the NCAA is like an organizing body that has no authority over the colleges. Yeah, it's not even close to what Roger Goodell does. Roger Goodell works for the owners, but he works for the best for the entire league, to make as much money as possible and to provide for the fans.

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Speaker 11: The nca doesn't do that.

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Speaker 2: Allen in California, Hi, Allen, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 13: Hey?

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Speaker 14: Dan five eight and a Traeger forged two thirty first time, long time, a long, long time. And I remember when I started listening to you guys that I had like two subwolfers in my car, and now I have like two child seats. So but look, with Army and Navy coming up, I went to the game last year with my son, and.

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Speaker 5: I did it actually because of you guys.

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Speaker 14: You know, I think it must have been five or six years ago, at least you spent some time on the show talking about that game, how it's rooting all these traditions and the history there. And after you did that, I spent a couple of weeks learning about the game, and I decided I just have to go and see it. Fast forward to last year and I took my nine year old son and it was one hundred and twenty fifth anniversary of the matchup. My brother was graduated from the Naval Academy and we watched an underdog Navy team fall off a win and it was such a cool and special experience. And we only did it because you talked about it one day, so you know, I wanted to say thanks. And you know, with all these little comments here and there about your eventual retirement, I wanted to call and express some gratitude, you know, thank you and the whole team for being with so many of us in the car. You know, obviously I'm in California for the drive to work for so long, the stories, the guests, everything else.

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Speaker 5: I'm not alone.

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Speaker 14: I just say it's a huge part of our day, So to you and FRITZYC and Paulie. Marvin has been a great addition to the team.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: We enjoy it all and just really appreciate you guys.

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Speaker 2: Thank you Allan, if you get the opportunity go to West Point and that is that's a unique experience when Army plays Navy in Philadelphia or if they you know, wherever they hold it Boltemore, it is great. But West Point, there's so much history there and it's just different. It's a different feel. You could spend hours there just walking around. And when those cadets come in, Man, you'll never feel prouder as an American. You will not wearing good hands with those you know, cadets at Army, Navy, Air Force. We'll take a break. The great Steve Young will join us get his thoughts on a couple of things, including advice to Jackson Dart and how would he feel if the coach at his alma mater, BYU would have to leave to take the Penn State job during the season. We're back after this.

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Speaker 2: I think he's the best NFL analyst in America. He's a Hall of Famer. He's Steve Young, three time super Bowl champ. Back on the program. I thought about you with Byu, with your head coach and perhaps maybe trual interest with Penn State. So let me ask you the question that old miss Lsu have had to deal with. How would you feel if you're a head coach? What happened to take a job while the seasons still going on?

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Speaker 5: Well, first of all, something's really wrong that allows for this kind of madness, you know, So we got to fix that. I don't know, you know, I don't know how to fix it. They got to fix that. It's insane. It would be super painful. I mean, there's a there's a symbiotic kind of beautiful thing going on between you know, everything by U and Klane and what he's doing, and there's like and I think he has the love for it too, So the pain would be a pretty extreme I suspect that everything's being done on the other side to try to make sure that everything gets you know that he stays. But I guess in some ways, Dan, it's cool that you know b Yu. Then there's the Big twelve and obviously super competitive and looks like they can do something. Really you know consistently pretty well that the Penn State wants our coach. I mean, that's a that's a cool thing too in some ways, So I mean, but don't be confused. It would be like ripping. They'd have to rip him. They're gonna have to rip him from our bloody hands. You know. That's the kind of I think about it.

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Speaker 2: And I also thought about you last night, knowing we were going to have you on when Jackson darts running the ball and he decides that he's not going to get out of bounds a little earlier, and his philosophy or his mindset is, Hey, I'm going to continue to do this. I'm a football player. It's not soccer. What would you say to Jackson Dart Well?

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Speaker 5: Some of it. I think as a quarterback, you have to give your teammates a sense that you're in for it all and you know, and you got to you got you're not the toughest guy on the team because you know, there's always someone dupper. But everyone needs to trust that you are going to be good for it physically, mentally, emotionally, and that's what in the locker room is vital. So I think he's trying to build that kind of you know, and that's smart, but it's also it could be stupid, like you have to be able to be able to say that and be that and then yet protect yourself and be you know, you don't have to ram into the linebackers for no reason. You don't have to look for an extra yard when it doesn't matter, and you know, get out of balance. And everyone on the team would say, Jackson, you appreciate your toughness. We appreciate the way that you want to, you know, represent but you got to stop and and and you got to stay healthy and as a pro player, you really need to learn how to do that. I love when emm it's meant to just say no when the journey is over and then get to the ground and be done and move on. And I think that that's something he's going to have to learn. Well. He tries to let everybody know I'm tough, and you know there's a there's a a fine line that he needs to find.

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Speaker 2: Well, you can show your t oftenness by being out there for seventeen regular season games. That that's really difficult to do, just to stay healthy for seventeen games. I don't need to add to the degree of difficulty here.

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Speaker 5: But he's young, he's trying to set he wants to be around for a long time. And so in the locker room, because you've got to understand, Dan, everybody in the locker room has to go and ram into somebody. And to get that inspiration and have the quarterback be somebody that's willing to put himself at risk is somehow inspiring in some ways. So it's like it's again, I get you and and being healthy is the most important thing. And I think that that's why I say Jackson can be healthy for seventeen weeks, take care of himself, be smart, and give off the representation he's, you know, a tough guy and to be counted on and trusted. So he's just young. He's trying to figure it out, and he's being a little you know, over zealous, and he needs to to figure out how to avoid stupidity, Like stupidity is just you're right, the locker room will they don't like stupid either. So it's like you gotta be you gotta have it all.

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Speaker 2: Okay, But take me back when you're beginning your career in San Francisco, you want to prove that you're a tough guy. But part of this was learning how to go through your progressions right. So you didn't run as often as you did. So I don't know how many designed runs you had with San Francisco.

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Speaker 5: Not a lot, I mean, but that's what Bill watsh I mean, he's I'd scramble around and run for a first down or even a touchdown, and I go the sidelines. He goes, what are you doing? But I'm like, why, I'm scoring. I'm scoring. He goes, yeah, but noh knows where to going, Like, you know, that's fine right now for once, but what are we gonna do like for the rest of the And so it's really the same. It's the same thing that Jackson's got to figure out is the game is sophisticated passing from the pocket. That's quarterback. Now today's quarterback. You have to threat the line of scrimmage with your feet and you have to go get those free yards. They're everywhere, and you know, I wish I played today. I keep telling that you that over and overs like it would be awesome. But again, you've got to develop the sophistication in the pocket and yet move the football, yet win games yet you know, so this transition into the pro game and becoming a player that people can count on as a quarterback, it's not for the you know, faint of heart, and it's got all kinds of angles on it, and you're bringing up the really important ones.

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Speaker 2: Do you think you would rush for ten thousand yards in today's NFL.

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Speaker 5: Over a career. No, no, no, because I think the game again, it's not like it's not a numbers, it's not a totality. You're not gonna you know, you're not gonna run for one hundred and twenty yards a game. It's like, that's not the game today. The game is still a sophisticated passing from the pocket. But again those spitting out and even Justin Herberts realized that think about the players that you know. Joe Burrow realizes that you have to especially in the biggest games, your legs are going to go win the football game, especially because it's a closers league today. It's not you know, you're in the third quarter of the ten point lead, like things are looking pretty good. It's like, no, you got people come back from that in two minutes in today's game. So it's like the NBA, you have to be a closer and in that way, that's with your legs. And so it's not ten thousand yards, it's really vital, important difference making two thousand, five, three thousand yards, you know what I mean, it's not the numbers aren't going to be like that.

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Speaker 2: Steve Young, Hall of Famer and former ESPN NFL analyst, What do you see when you look at Drake May.

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Speaker 5: Someone who gets it? I mean as a quarterback, That's the best way I could say it. The game makes sense to him. Twenty two people on a field running around, crazy, chaotic. His brain obviously slows down instead of speeds up. The more crazy it gets.

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Speaker 2: It's ill teachable to slow the brain down down.

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Speaker 5: That's a genetic It's like you think about it, Dan, the normal human reaction is you know, tension pressure. You know, your heartbeat goes up, your brain diminishes, it gets focused more. But you know, you don't have the you don't have the presence. Think about when you're under people are screaming at you. Like the pressure diminishes you. It makes you, it focuses you, but it diminishes you. You don't you're not as present. It's not like you're in your backyard hanging around playing ball. But Patrick Mahomes for whatever reason, that's that's how his body reacts to it. And I think there is to be really good in the game, that has to be a genetic blessing, so that as things getting worse and crazier, your brain somehow says, ah, no, we're good and uh and there's a piece to it and uh. And I think that people always say, well, what makes a great quarterback? I think that's probably the number number one or number one a number one being a condition that you have to have and I don't I don't think you learn it. I think you can get better at it. I think things can calm down over time. But I think it's just a genetic reaction to kind of the the thing that's happened in front of you. And that's just the pressure that happened, you know, the physical reaction.

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Speaker 2: Well, Gretzky, you would talk about how the game slowed down. Yeah, and you're talking about hockey, but like, how do you how do you slow down hockey where you're taking And he talked about taking snapshots like it'd be like a quick picture here, quick picture here, quick picture here, and it allowed him to kind of understand, you know, the situation.

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Speaker 5: I love that that makes sense to me. That's what That's what it feels like. And I think that that's why. That's why the when people, you know, when you're forced to retire at a young age, no matter what it is, even if Tom Brady's forty five, you so have half your life left, you just you miss it because it's something that is intuitive to you. It's like, you know how hard it is, you know how difficult it is to be good at it or even great at it, and yet like it all makes sense, you know, and like nothing else in your life can make as much sense. Like I you know, the day you retire, the next day you wake up, you're like, what are you good at? Nothing? You know?

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Speaker 7: But what do you what?

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Speaker 5: Are You're great at? This thing? That is amazing and So that's the Wayne Gretzky what you just said about him is that's that's the beauty of when it all kind of slows down and makes sense to you, despite how insane it all is, is the coolest thing in the world. That's the best.

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Speaker 2: How good are your Niners?

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Speaker 5: I mean, how well are they coached? I mean they lose all their stars on defense, especially, they have people out most of the season on offense. And you know, also Mac Jones is a guy that everybody wants in the league, just like sam Donold was look at. You know, it's like, let's just tip our cap to the coaching number one, and let's tip our cap to the culture of the place, locker room leadership. Obviously, they've got guys in the room that pull things together. And so how good are they good enough to threaten and make people? Really you can talk about a tough out and they're going to be in the playoffs. I think you can almost count on that. And so who wants to play the forty nine ers? I don't know nobody. So you know, that's that's for where they where they are with the personnel and what's happened, it's pretty remarkable. I think we've got to tip our cap to to really everyone an organization right now to be nine or four.

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Speaker 2: Is Christian diccaffrey a Hall of Famer already?

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Speaker 5: It feels like it. I mean, he's a He's a guy that's Roger Craig. Roger Craig is the first guy that I can remember that kind of took the role of running back and then expanded it. And that's what Christian now in the game today. How many times I talk you about the world changes and how open the field is and how you know the innovative minds are the ones that dominate today. That you know, those innovative minds led by Kyle, Sean McVay, you know, Danny Reid and you know Sean Payton went first ones to kind of really do it all. You need players to go fulfill that innovation, that that new space and that is not an iback running downhill. It's a fact that can do kind of everything and line up everywhere and every week come up with something a little new. The coach has come up, you know, that has figured out that you can go and you know perform like yeah, hand it to me that oh yeah, you want to You need somebody do that. I got you. Uh, And that's why to me, the game changes all of things about people that change the game, and that when you write the book, you can't write the book without their name in it. And uh. And you can't write the book about the game today and running back without Christian mccaffany.

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Speaker 2: There was a moment in the Steelers Bills game where Aaron Rodgers reacted and it looked like the receiver went the wrong way and it was supposed to be you know, maybe an in cut and he but Tony Romo pointed it out. He's like, oh, the receiver went the because Aaron's reaction. How often does that happen or did that happen to you where you might change the play or there's a subtle nuance with it. You got to pick it up a signal or a word and they end up running the wrong route.

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Speaker 5: Well, first of all, communication out to receivers, especially in audible, especially you know that was at a home game, so that's a little different. But you know you're in a dome and you I remember, yeah, I'd signal at that Jerry Wright signal and he'd be like what what And You're like, you know, he give a signal and he's like, I don't have to understand, you know, and like he said off and then I throw in the ball even like what we're supposed to do, and I'm like, I don't know, but I could just tell where you're going. So I think the thing that happens on the field very rarely does a guy turn right instead of left, you know what I mean. Like, but the subtlety of the route, especially and especially when you're coming back the ball protecting a quarterback from interceptions because he as you throw a football, you need people that understand that you need to be the first one to it despite the fact that the route might say, the line might say a certain thing. It's all those kind of small, you know, adjustments, and that's why I you know, the West Coast offense really started this process, and now I think Peyton Manning really extended it by communication with the receivers that made it so that no matter what happened, there was an adjustment that both knew and subtleties. And now the game is very much about that. And that's why Aaron Rodgers a third Blurrish for so long. So I think Aaron expects himself to be perfect and he expects everyone around to be perfect, and so some of that reaction is pretty natural.

00:31:22
Speaker 2: Which quarterbacks under the most pressure to win a Super Bowl this year?

00:31:30
Speaker 5: Well, in some ways, you know, Lamar Jackson because and Josh Allen, I don't know. Wow, okay, already we have a list. Uh, I'd say Josh Allen just because Lamar's like, they're not they're not they're not full full force yet. So but the Bills and where they've been and how they how they've been really representing the NFL in excellence for a while. Josh is special. He does things in the game is he's perfect for He's the prototype Patrick And so yeah, I don't pressure is a funny thing because I don't think he feels that necessarily. Just feels like that's the next mountain to climb, and we got it and I'm climbing it. And that's why how you It's not like I have this weight on me and I can't wake up in the morning and I feel like, you know, it's more I can't wait to get to that mountain that I haven't been able to climb, and I'm i'm I'm I'm going to get there. This time, I'm gonna I'm gonna be at the top. I'm gonna take the picture, you know, the top of Everest with the flag, the camera in by four minutes of Fame. It's happening. And so I think I would say Josh is the one that probably feels that the most.

00:32:43
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford a dinosaur. Is this the last of the pocket passer?

00:32:51
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yes. And way I say that is there's you have to threaten the line of scrimmage. There's too many free arcs. Matthew learned the game in a more sophisticated era, and so he takes advantage of that. He learned it when no one was open. The middle of the field was patrolled, and you know the death zone, you know, plats weren't open all the time. People could hit the quarterback however they wanted to do. He learned, and so he's been taking advantage. He's he's abusing, that's it. He's abusing the game today because and that's why Tom Brady wanted to play forever. That's why Peyton wanted to play forever. That's why Drew Brees wanted to play forever. You know, because they knew that they had a sophistication that they could take advantage of it. And so yes, Matthew is the last of those guys that are around, and I was Aaron Rodgers. Those two of the last that have been around in a more sophisticated era. And now you know, but Aaron I was still the landscript. So it's not the same. But the dinosaur is. I'm somebody that's going to throw the ball so you know, spectacularly from the pocket. But I just can't get those yards. It'll it'll eat you up over time. You can't. You might you might be good, you might be great if you can't win Super Bowls and and and dominate. If you're going to start in twenty twenty five as a rookie and not somebody that can look at those yards. It's just it's it's too hard. You've made the degree of difficulty like an Olympic dive. Like it's it's you know, it's what the fight? What's the hard dive? I can't remember how they do it? What? Uh?

00:34:24
Speaker 2: What's I look in your office and it doesn't seem.

00:34:28
Speaker 5: Well that's Christmas time. Let me what will we work? It's like Santa Santa's workshop. Just let it, let it happen. Why you have to start getting personal and like trying to dig at me, man, I'm just trying to get stuff done.

00:34:41
Speaker 2: I'm just looking at you know. There's no football related stuff there. I didn't know you're what's right off my head?

00:34:46
Speaker 5: What what is this record?

00:34:48
Speaker 2: Okay, got a helmet, that's one thing.

00:34:51
Speaker 5: Well, all it's a museum. You want me to be like an you're trying to dine a store me. I see what you're saying. It's like we want a museum. Am So we come in in a wax figure like, No, my house is not. If you walk through my house, you would not know I played. I'm not going to burden my kids with that. Like you know, this is a that's a helmet signed by all the Hall of Famers. Seems kind of special. So we'll just wing that one out.

00:35:14
Speaker 2: But yeah, but when when your daughters, when they have boyfriends who come over, those dudes want to see what you're what you got here? Let's not kid anybody, Well I got the shotgun for that. I got I got that up on the wall. Okay, all right, okay, so you got your little shot there Okay, all right, you got a little helmet there. Well, that's that's great. Congratulations on a wonderful career. Thank you, thank you for what I could have been Dodgers.

00:35:46
Speaker 5: I mean that's where I really yeah.

00:35:48
Speaker 2: I mean, well you know my research staff they had you playing for the Dodgers. What I could have been, bro, I could have been, It could have been to before Tommy, thanks for joining us as always, you're the best buddy. That is Steve Young all of famer. I think he's the best analyst covering the NFL. Always great to have him on. We'll take a break. We're back after this. Last call for phone calls? What we learn? What's in store tomorrow? Right after this.

00:36:20
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00:36:32
Speaker 2: Last call for phone calls? What we learn? What's in store tomorrow? Hoping this voice sounds a little better tomorrow, little choppy Today, College football rankings. Tonight we'll talk to Chris Fowler, the voice of college football. He'll join us on the program tomorrow. Uh Tony in California, Hi, Tony, what's on your mind today?

00:36:57
Speaker 15: Hey, how's it going?

00:36:58
Speaker 5: Guys?

00:36:58
Speaker 2: What's up?

00:36:59
Speaker 5: Hey?

00:36:59
Speaker 15: Aytn Hey, So just give it some perspective on Louisiana. So I grew up in San Diego and then I went to college in Louisiana. Different kind of place, Lane Kiffin. Total, no brainer to go there, man. Louisiana's it's the place to be man as far as cars college football goes. But I went there. He kind of got to layoff the guy for the God quote. Man, I went there from San Diego. I know looking back that God brought me there to get saved and also introduced me to the religion of college football.

00:37:32
Speaker 2: Okay, you're welcome, play made. Thank you to Than's pay off. Yeah, we know. LSU's a great place. Nobody's denied that. Once again. He's gonna win there. It may win a national championship. It's just the mess of leading up to it. That's all he can go. He can make as much money as he wants. I couldn't care less, but you know, there's some casualties left in his wake. That's all. Dave in San Diego, Hi, Dave, what's on your mind today?

00:38:05
Speaker 13: You're doing?

00:38:06
Speaker 5: Thank you?

00:38:06
Speaker 16: For taking my call. Then I just want to make one quick point that I haven't heard anybody really talk about. And if you're a coach, changing jobs in Kiffen's is an example, but it works with all these guys. The big thing is recruiting, right, So one of the things if you're getting kids in from the portal or the high school kids and all this commitment time and they make these dates. No one's talking about the fact that most universities right now are getting close to the end of their semester the holiday time they come back. If you can't get guys enrolled transfers in time, then you're kind of out of luck in terms of recruiting. So these coaches sometimes it doesn't time out when they want to take a job. But their whole point is that they got to get the best as players they can, not to mention, put their staff together.

00:39:06
Speaker 1: There's going to be in this.

00:39:08
Speaker 2: Yeah we got, Yeah, we got that. We've talked about that. I understand college football needs an overhaul. You just need you need to look at the bigger picture here. What makes the most sense for the future of college football. You know, it's like with college basketball. Hey, let's expand it, Okay, how much more do you expansion do you have? With the march madness where it dilutes. It used to mean something when you've made the tournament. Now if you don't make the tournament, it's like, what's wrong with you? And then you know you have Jim Beheim He goes, they should expand it to ninety six. Well, yeah, you're saying that from a coach's perspective, But I still think and I'm okay, if you want to have more, you know, play in games or first round games. I mean, they don't even acknowledge them as real games, you know, the way they label them. You know, the first four, it's just these are the first games. You know you're kind of in, but you're not really in.

00:40:05
Speaker 6: Yes, Mark, nothing more annoying than Team sixty nine coach getting upset. You had four months to make the tournament. He won seventeen games, euro upset.

00:40:15
Speaker 2: Paulie. This day in sports History.

00:40:17
Speaker 11: Got a couple for you.

00:40:17
Speaker 8: In nineteen sixty three, MLB got rid of oversized catchers, missed mits. I found some pictures.

00:40:23
Speaker 11: They used to be like eight inches bigger than they are now.

00:40:26
Speaker 8: Dan Marino nineteen eighty four with the Dolphins through his fortieth touchdown pass of the season.

00:40:30
Speaker 11: That was a record at the time.

00:40:31
Speaker 8: And let's see Clyde Drexler of your Rockets became the fourth NBA player to reach two thousand career steals.

00:40:38
Speaker 11: How about that for Clyde.

00:40:42
Speaker 2: On this date in nineteen ninety five, Patrick Waugh is in a blowout and he allowed nine goals in a loss to the Range or the Red Wings here. Mario Tromblay was the Canadians coach and Roua demanded the trade. He ended up with the Avalanche and on a Stanley Cup that same season, so they left him in like, we're gonna teach you a lesson, mister Todd, what did you learn if he was a currents Old missplayer.

00:41:08
Speaker 12: Devin mccordy would vote to keep Layane Kippen as head coach throughout the playoffs for the Rebels.

00:41:12
Speaker 2: Dylan, what'd you learn today?

00:41:14
Speaker 3: It's too soon to hat Drake Man the Patriots.

00:41:17
Speaker 6: Marvin, you think Joe Burrows the best passer in the league?

00:41:20
Speaker 11: Paul Steve Young has no memorabilia in his office.

00:41:24
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. We'll talk to you tomorrow. Dan Patrick Show