Hour 3 – The Evolution of The DP Show, Matt Leinart

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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for downloading the app. When we say good morning, iHeartRadio, Fox Sports Radio and ESPN Radio some affiliates carrying our program, We appreciate that. Yeah. Yeah, you know, the great fall has happened here with me and the Mother Show. Always come back, Yeah, they do, They all come Now. I'm on good terms. Now, I'm on good terms with the mother Ship. You know, they know I had conversations with them, just you know, just just chatting it up a little bit. No, no, no, that is this a year three?

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Speaker 3: After year two, you're gonna you're gonna un retire from retiring and you're going back to the madre.

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Speaker 2: No comment, no comment, no comment, no no, just you know, I had eighteen years there.

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Speaker 3: It would be ironic if they were like, yeah, you could do the show from home. Oh all of the things that you wanted when you were there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was. I was like nineteen years ahead of my time with the ESPN. It's like, can I do the show from my home when I'm not doing Sports Center? No, that's President setting.

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Speaker 3: That's Fridays. What's the big deal?

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Speaker 2: I know. And then when they said no, No, it's good for morale that when you're in studio. Oh my god. And then I was always like, yeah, mister morale is here. Everybody every day we saw you.

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Speaker 4: Hey, hey, I'm just here raising morale.

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Speaker 2: I know. Oh my god. Why did they say that?

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Speaker 5: I know you're a party in a box back then.

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Speaker 2: No, Todd, you didn't have to come with me to the show.

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Speaker 5: You know what, what is it?

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Speaker 6: Why coun't you just take a little shot that I made and we could just leave it at that. You have to come back with something very defensive.

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Speaker 2: You have to come back with something that was a good line by me, and then we just leave it. I think you were being truthful, and so was I. Yeah, that's all it was. Oh, you can't being truthful. It's truthful.

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Speaker 7: You could be cute and truthful at the same time.

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Speaker 2: There was definitely truth. That's it. Oh man, this.

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Speaker 6: Guy's a miserable You can just go home and do the show.

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Speaker 2: No, you're right, you're right. Those last three years, I was not happy. I wasn't and I felt like everybody had gone from Sports Center, all the people that I'd work with, all the anchors, they're all doing specialty shows and then I'm there and I'm like, you know when you're the oldest guy and you show up at a party and you're like, hey, can you buy us beer? That's how I felt, And it wasn't fair to the other anchors who were there. I just I should have gone after my by fifteenth year there. The last three weren't fun, and the Mothership didn't help, just because everything was precedent setting. I remember saying, Hey, could I get a closet in my office? Now it's precedent setting, and my office was a mess, and I wanted to have, you know, I could hang up my suits and ties in there. And so I asked for another TV because you know, we were doing all these highlight and a lot of times you're doing the highlights, you haven't seen the highlights, so you have to watch more games. And I had three little monitors in my office. And what I did is I went out and I stole two of the TVs from other guy's desk and put it in my office. And I think Jason Jackson and Rhys Davis might I might have taken their their little monitors. Yeah. I know it's good now, but I'm like, hell of it. I'm going to go out and get it. And then I had, you know, one of the people who worked there, electrician, I say, can you hook that up? And he's like yeah. He even said are you allowed to do this? I go, yep, yep, I am yep. I got tenure here, Yes, Dodd.

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Speaker 6: I remember those days, especially out of Friday, when you wanted to kind of do the show from home and PAULI or one of us with their out of suggestion where we got.

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Speaker 5: This trade and this happened?

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Speaker 6: Anyway, what am I going to do with that? But they and we look at it.

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Speaker 2: You to the oh no, yeahs now. But it wasn't a good show. We had the potential to make it a good show. I didn't live up to my potential to make it a good a fun show. I should say. That's why when we started this, it was going to be on my terms. It was going to be close to my home. We were going to have a man cave and we were going to have a small group of people and we were going to have fun. And then we ended up in my attic and I remember somebody from management told a friend of mine, Hey, great career move by Dan. He's working in his attic, and I was like, oh, man, I'm coming after you. I don't know what that meant, but I was like, damn, I will not stop until somebody says, man, you got a great show, but I'm over it. I am. I've moved on. Yes, paulm I don't.

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Speaker 8: Want to go a bumper sticker on you. But you know, everything happens for a reason. If you didn't have those rough last years and they would have acquiesced to some of your requests, they asked us. They said, it would be okay if Dan works a few days romework. Yes, yeah, how about Monday and Friday it gets like a long weekend. Everybody wins like, well, we really need him here. So it wasn't like us. But you could still be there doing whatever maybe and this would have all never happened.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was best that I moved on. That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 8: It's like, if they would have not been hardliners, it all worked out.

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Speaker 3: Actually, when they brought me in for that meeting, Paul was talking about it, I said no, I said, actually, I think it's a huge mistake. Chemistry would be off, the show is going to suffer. And then eventually get canceled. I thinked and really needs to be here.

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Speaker 2: Okay, just being honest.

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Speaker 3: ESPN often brought me into meetings for my thoughts on things.

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Speaker 2: That's that happened all the time, seeing the.

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Speaker 1: Mood you were in.

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Speaker 6: I had a picket sign and I was marching let it work Wednesday through Friday from home.

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Speaker 2: For God's sakes, Are you being serious? Are you taking it off?

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Speaker 6: I never had a picket sign, but if I thought of it back then, I might have marched across the park and.

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Speaker 2: Say I let him work from home. I don't blame you, man. I came in especially on Fridays because I didn't see my kids, and you know, then I started getting pressure from my wife and then you know, it's like I tried, and we even did an experiment where I said, Okay, I'm gonna do my show from my attic and I don't want you to tell anybody that I'm doing it from my attic. And nobody said a word. And then they were like, I hear you weren't in on Friday. I go, well, did you hear the show? I said, listen to the show, and you tell me if anything changed. Did it sound good? How is morale? All of these things. But everything was precedent setting, even having a closet, and they said, well, if he give you one, then we got to give I go, well, then give other people. I waited ten years to get an office, and I was like, okay, precedent setting, Well, if I give you one, we got to give it. Okay, all right, fair enough, But once again we're all good, smooth sailing dealing with new management there. They've been wonderful and very accommodating the PR department. We love the PR department. Big shout out to the ESPN PR apartment. They watch our show every day. Yes, Martin, Sorry, quick question for the room.

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Speaker 1: Do you guys ever think about if you guys never said yes to Dan when he decided to leave.

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Speaker 2: Well, Todd would still be there definitely, because you know, there there was nobody who was doing what Todd does. There were a lot of producers and assistant producers. But I don't know if because Paul was working for Tony.

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Speaker 8: Stewart, Yeah, in serious satellite radio.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then Seaton was still I don't know if you would still be there. You'd be in management probably in radio, yeah, probably. Yeah, They offered me a PD gig in New York. When I left, oh, because they didn't want you to go with me.

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Speaker 3: They said, well, where are you going? I said, I don't know, just trying to see what else out there. And they were like, we all know where you're going. And they said this isn't for like a quick ten grand or something, is it. And I said no, no, just trying to see what's out there. And then you know there are options. I mean that program director job in New York City is open. I was saying, no, that's right, I'm good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. They came after, came after me. It's didn't want you guys to go fretzy. I mean I just sneak him out in the middle of the night. It felt like, I get you tell them we said hi.

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Speaker 7: I was like, oh, I didn't say I was going to where specifically.

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Speaker 3: I was told that we all know where you're going. Uh, and no one takes kindly if something about like we don't look kindly on going to the enemy and if you leave, you can't come back. Yeah, And I was like, okay, yeah, well see you later.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I remember we were on three hundred radio stations. I mean we're on four hundred. Now we were at three point thirty, and they said, to the ESPN affiliates, you know who had been loyal and I'd been loyal to them. They said, if you continue to take his show, then we're going to drop you as an ESPN affiliate. And I just remember, gosh. This escalated quickly, and I'm just but they wanted, and I understood the logic, as a member of management told me years later, is we wanted to make sure that you didn't survive so other anchors wouldn't get any ideas of leaving. I said, well, you did a pretty good job. Did pretty good job. But you know what, I survived. I swam to the shores from Alcatraz and I survived. Yes, Todd, and I was with.

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Speaker 6: The company fourteen years, And I thought in New York in LA, I'm Connecticut, and I thought there'd be a little different. I was going to train somebody for like two weeks. Next thing I know, I'm like, you can make.

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Speaker 7: Today your last day, and they just I said, really.

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Speaker 2: This is what are you going to do?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, which was fine, but I like, really that's what you're.

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Speaker 2: Well they pulled me off. I said, hey, I'm going to leave, but can I, you know, say stay on for two weeks, give you two week notice, and that therefore, if you want me to have somebody fill in for me and make it easier for the affiliates. And then I think they let me do it for one day and then they pulled me off. They were worried I was going to say something. Yeah, I was like, no fun days.

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Speaker 3: Gosh, those were fun days.

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Speaker 2: And there was there was a lot of clandestine stuff going on, and I wasn't quite sure because I didn't really have anybody who was helping me with this. You know, Paulie was, but he wasn't in there. I needed somebody who I was getting. Second, I was getting like notes, cryptic notes, because nobody wanted to get caught sending me a message or calling me.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, paul we set up a dummy email account Fritzie and I. Fritzy was like taking pictures like a spy movie of his book with his numbers and send them to me because he had no other backup for it. And I still have the email. It's like forty or fifty emails of athlete numbers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we were trying to get all the information out, but then they knew we were trying to get the information out, and it became sort of a you know, we're like whispering. You know, I don't know why we were whispering, but I said, you know, Ton, but you know, get your book out. If they don't own that that's yours, well I don't want you. And we're trying to get old interviews out. And then you know, i'd say to Seating, Hey, go talk to Tim and ask Tim if he'll you know, make a copy for us.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I was burning CDs of old interviews and like, like the very first thing, as a matter of fact, that I smuggled out of there was Soccer Breakdown, the True story.

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Speaker 2: Very first thing. I was like, I gotta get Soccer Breakdown. We're taking that work in three two.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh we might need we probably need this Barry Brown's interview.

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Speaker 4: Oh look Lebron from two thousand and two, are get that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I better burn that to a ced Oh my goodness, good times. Yeah. But I will say when we did the show in my attic, that's what that's what made this show what it is today because we all had to pitch in and you know, there's it wasn't glamorous. It was in the attic. There were two bedrooms that we made into a studio, one side for the dan Nets and then one side for me. And you know, you got dogs and cats and you know, kids getting off to school. I mean my wife, you know, always cooking downstairs. Paulie goes that banana bread. You go there, some good smells coming up to send it upstairs, and I say, hun, is that banana bread? Yeah, you can bring some up. But it was it brought us together and made us so much stronger.

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Speaker 6: Yes to you also hit things like you're not wearing that to school?

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Speaker 2: Like, wait, we're not supposed to be hearing some of this very personal stuff.

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Speaker 8: Yes, paul and my computer would be have different things on it.

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Speaker 2: Different people who are using my son. Yeah, my son would come up there and he'd play like, I don't know, World of Warcraft, World War crawfd Halo was a big one then, yeah, And I'd be like, hey, dude, you uh, you've been up on Paulie's computer. Oh why I said Paulie doesn't play Halo?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Jack two two four nine seven is like a World of Warcraft account right now.

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Speaker 2: For incidents I remember we had a kit and who got stuck in the wall the best. You just hear this mirror, I go, where is that cat? And then all of a sudden there was a paul hanging out of the wall.

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Speaker 3: They were getting a call from like our affiliates being like, you guys keep getting knocked off the air or anything.

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Speaker 2: It looks fine. You see a cat paw batting the wires. The number of times I would see Paulie and Or's seat and I've under the desk and and I go, everything okay, Yeah, everything's okay. And they were trying to who knows what they were, you know, we were just trying to stay on the air. But I just remember it was it was chaos, but it was fun. Yeah, Paulie.

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Speaker 8: Two things, We should clip this segment and play it our last week on the air, and just to have it back. There were a number of times where we were knocked off the air because of technical issues and I didn't know, and I'm like, a you know, Ventriloquist going to Seaton. Are we on the air. He's like huh uh, I like, don't say anything.

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, I'm just you know, attaining a nation there. Oh my god, that was wild. That that last year at the Mothership and then the first couple of years outside it was wild, and I thought godly, and my wife said, hey, whatever, whatever you think, you did not fail. I'm like, I can't fail these guys. And then she said, you already won. You're at home. Oh yeah, okay, you know kind of one. Yeah, but she's right. I had to come home and I'm you know, we're lucky that we survived. How did I get on this topic?

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Speaker 3: Oh you mentioned affiliate?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because there are Yeah, you're right, there are ESPN affiliates who do carry the show. I'm very grateful for that. Thank you. About to lose the ESPN is just finding out that ESPN fil it's a carrying this show. No, but thank you, thank you for all of our greater feelage. How about we take a break here, Matt Liiner said, to join us. Let's see the history, the tradition, the excitement, the passion, the drama, the fight usc Notre Dame Saturday on NBC and Peacock. We're back after this Dan Patrick Show.

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Speaker 2: A couple of phone calls while we wait for Matt Lainer to join us. You know that Michigan win was huge because now you have Notre Dame and then they have Oregon, so usc you know, you could easily look past that game, I guess since it was a home game with Michigan, but they didn't. They played really well. Now you've got Notre Dame and then you've got Oregon. David in Ohio. David's back. What's on your mind? David?

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Speaker 10: Hey, Dan, I had an I team report real quick. I was watching the show yesterday. Yeah, and it looked like when Dylan was doing IM measuring your you guys just height, he was just kind of ballparking it. Didn't really use any logic to it. When they when I got measured round of a kid, my mom brought out the ruler and uh, you know, flatten my head just to see what my heart was. It looked like he was just kind of ballparking it. Maybe he had too many white soles or I don't really know.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, all right, well I think we're gonna stay with those heights. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: See, yeah, I think we mentioned that in the moment that Dylan was just eyeballing it and that it was completely unscientific, although I'm sticking to my results like they're scientific.

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Speaker 2: Matt Lioner Funks Big Noon Kickoff Analysts former USC quarterback official Height and weight Matt Official, Hide and wait for me, Dan.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Uh, I'm about six four and three quarters about two sixteen.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't there a time when quarterbacks could be too tall? Like if you were six six. Yeah, didn't it like we kind of looked at you, was it brock Osweiler, like there.

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Speaker 5: Were blacks brock os I was like six eight. I think that was a tall I mean the tall when I was playing the tallest. There were a bunch of kind of us big old statue guys right like me, Carson, Me, Carson, Brady Peyton. I can't believe I'm putting myself in the same sentence.

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Speaker 4: But as far as far height, we were all like we were all literally the same height.

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Speaker 5: You know. Ben Roethlisberger was the biggest one Dan and I think when we played that he was he was like six six and a half to sixty but built different.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, it's a I.

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Speaker 5: Don't know, I feel like it's a different, different type of body.

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Speaker 2: Now, So when did you realize that these quarterbacks were better than you? That you come from USCA, you went a Heisman, then you get to the NFL, and that's when you know things change as far as being a starter or being a backup holding on a roster spot.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean there's nowhere I always say this like you could when you were in college as a quarterback.

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Speaker 4: When I was looking at a defense.

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Speaker 5: You could always pick on players, right, you could always you know, there was a week Link. There was a couple guys here and there that probably were draft picks or good NFL players, I think as a quarterback position, so it was it was you know, you could obviously have some success. Then when you get to the NFL, there really are no week Links. There's guys that are better than others. But that's when it becomes your skill set. That's when it becomes how much mentally you're ahead of the game. Can you read a defense, the anticipation, the accuracy. Accuracy is always a big one for me in the NFL. For I mean to answer that question, I think my rookie year, I thought I was fine.

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Speaker 4: I played well.

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Speaker 5: I really believed, and then probably year two and year three, when we had a different system, I lost a little bit of confidence. That's when I kind of felt like, Okay, my skill set, like I don't have the strongest arm, I'm not going to run as much. Where can I have the advantage? And for me, it was always mental. I always felt like I was naturally just very smart and I could read it, even the pick up things very quickly. I would just say, the biggest thing is confidence. When you lose your confidence as a quarterback, kind of all hell breaks loose, and at least it did for me.

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Speaker 4: So I think kind of a couple of years in. But it's funny.

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Speaker 5: I was actually I was actually just talking to Arion Foster yesterday, my old teammate in Houston, and we were kind of talking about that was my sixth year in the league, you know, kind of washed the second second through five, people kind of forgot where I was. Kubix signs me and I tell the story all the time. It was the best I'd ever felt as a quarterback ever, Like USC felt great, but ever I was like, holy crap, like I can play this position at a high level, Like this was the Shanahan system and all those things, and I got my confidence back, and Aaron and I were just talking about. Aaron was like, dude, I feel like if you would have stayed healthy because I broke my collarbone the first start back, we would have made a deep run in the playoff, like we lost to Baltimore or Baltimore.

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Speaker 4: But it was the best I felt.

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Speaker 11: Dan.

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Speaker 5: So look at the end of the day, I think, you know, we're seeing a resurgence of all these players, which is really cool, and the fit is just so important.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, what advice would you give a rookie quarterback?

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Speaker 5: Oh gosh, that's a good question. It's so different now because a lot of these guys are just thrust in right away and it's just like, go play. I do think in a lot of ways. I'll get to that answer a second. I do think it a lot of ways. A lot of these offenses now are geared toward these players coming in in college. At the high school level, I see all it's wide open. It's RPO is now in the college. So a lot of these young players I think are way more prepared than a guy like me, or at least in that era where a lot of us would sit, we'd back up, you kind of wait your time. I still I still think being a sponge is the biggest thing and asking questions and don't think you know everything. A lot of these kids come in and they are advanced and they think they kind of know everything and they just don't, and and game reps and experiences is a way to get better. So the advice is to go in and be a sponge with the locker room ask questions, soak up everything, get with their coaches as much as possible. The most I ever met with my coach my coaches was in Houston with coach napp Rest and Peace, who passed away. He was phenomenal and he taught me that position like I'd never been taught before. So those are things you just got to you gotta you know, it's not necessarily first out late. It's just go in there and soak up all the information, ask questions, retain it, and go out and execute it.

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Speaker 2: We're going to South Bend. We're gonna be there Thursday and Friday.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it's a doozy, buddy.

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Speaker 2: How do they treat you when you go to South Bend?

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Speaker 4: South Bends? They're not mean?

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Speaker 5: I mean, gosh, I when I was in Illinois a couple of weeks ago, I thought, I mean, honestly, I thought I needed security.

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Speaker 2: Dude.

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Speaker 4: Why I thought I needed well, I was. I was also hyping up the crowd a little bit.

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Speaker 5: I was, you know, telling, obviously we're gonna kick their ass and all this stuff, and and uh we did not. We did not win that game.

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Speaker 4: No, South End is South End is is fine.

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Speaker 5: I don't think they're they're you know, if I'm at that, I was at that game a couple of years ago in South Bend, and you know, a couple of booze. I wouldn't expect anything less from those guys, though.

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Speaker 2: Nobody tried to push you and say, oh, you know, here's a bush push for you.

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Speaker 5: I mean I get that. I get that all the time. You know, oh you cheated your bush.

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Speaker 4: I'm my guys, this happened. I think it was.

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Speaker 5: This is a twenty year anniversary. I think that's a twenty year round versus.

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Speaker 4: Like, guys, guys, come on, can we get it?

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Speaker 1: Can we?

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, Brady Quinn, I know he's a frequent on the show. Brady was like, come on, guys, can we move past this? But again, that's this week. I'm sure we'll talk about talk about it on Big Noon this weekend. But you're gonna be there. I mean, that's a big one. I mean, playoff elimination game for Notre Dame. With already two losses. USC can lose this and obviously still went out and make a playoff. I imagine a ten and two USC team is in, but they still they still have Oregon on the road.

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Speaker 4: They still in there.

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Speaker 5: They have a much difficult, much more difficult path and schedule than Notre Dame.

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Speaker 4: Notre Dame wins this. I think they're coast into a ten and two playoff spot.

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Speaker 2: I really do you know. I go back to that play with the Reggie Bush play. Didn't you have the fourth down completion to Dwayne Jarrett? Yeah, that was fourth and nine, and people don't focus. I think the the the Bush push over shadows that fourth down play that converted.

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Speaker 5: Well, there's a there's a couple plays the fourth down for sure. The fourth and nine, well, it's third and twenty, and I remember there's a great clip. It's me and Sark and Pete on the sideline, and the whole thing was right, just get half back. If it's not there, check down to Reggie, let him go get some yards and at least fourth and nine is manageable, you know with our guys and anyway, and I've told the story, but it was one on one and throw it up to Dwayne and again that ball an inch. Either way, it's an incomplete we lose the game. It was just one of those plays, right, we executed at a high level. I say this all the time Dwayne was not fast. Then god, he got hawked at like the twenty yard line. Because if we score right there, there's still a minute. Let Brady gonna lead him down, they're gonna win the game. So he gets hawked at the twenty. The one hidden play in that day and that I always say, there was a third down and four or five down there. Reggie picked up the first down with a run. We barely got a yard. If we don't get that, it's fourth down and one from like the seven yard.

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Speaker 4: It's just a much different thing.

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Speaker 5: So that's the other play that I think a lot of people forget about is Reggie got to converted a first down that stop the clock, move the change, we can huddle up and execute another play.

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Speaker 2: Well you yeah, I'm humble that and I and it stays in bounds. Yeah, we lose and then you lose.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, god, yead Dan, there's a lot you know, there's a lot of ifs in that game, but we haded a win in so it's all that matters.

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Speaker 2: Do you hold that over Brady Quinch hen?

00:25:23
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Well listen, Brady, I love Brady's like a he's like a brother. You know we love each other. We we Uh. He's a great dude, but he is a Notre dame through and through guy. We all know that. I think he cares a lot more about this than I do.

00:25:39
Speaker 4: But you know, sometimes you just gotta you just gotta keep him in check a little bit.

00:25:43
Speaker 8: You know.

00:25:43
Speaker 4: I always say like, hey, buddy, I know three to.

00:25:45
Speaker 1: Zero gets you.

00:25:46
Speaker 4: But listen, they've beaten us, six of them.

00:25:48
Speaker 5: They've owned us pretty much the last decade, so there hasn't been a lot for me to say to him. And again, I think this weekend is another. This is just a really tough game for us to go on the road and beat a team like that, who I think is one of the hottest teams in the country. So we'll see.

00:26:03
Speaker 2: Talking to Matt Lioner the Fox Big Noon Kickoff crew in an arbor. It's Washington and Michigan coming up this Saturday. You're also working with Abbott again. This is season that you've worked with we give blood drive. Tell the audience more about that.

00:26:19
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is awesome. I think we talked last year about this as well. Thanks for having me on to promote this a little bit. Yeah, Abbot's teamed up with the Big Ten again and really just last year, this campaign and this blood drive saved about sixty thousand lives. There's already been over one hundred and ten thousand lives saves with blood donations and we're only halfway through the season, so we've already doubled that, which is almost double that, which is amazing. So basically what it is is the school in the Big Ten, all eighteen schools, whatever school donates the most blood wins a million dollars to advance what is it, student and community health for their school, So there's a big incentive. There's also prizes in between and all those things. But there's a massive blood shortage in this country. Someone needs blood every two seconds. One blood donation can save up to three lives. So Abbott has done an incredible job. It's been awesome to partner with them. Dan last year was a success. This year's even better and we're only halfway through so and it's a fun way to sort of compete with other schools. And I'm wearing the USC polo today because our team, I believe USC finished last in this last year. So encouraging everybody but especially Trojan fans to get out there and donate.

00:27:31
Speaker 4: It's for a great cause and can go a long way, obviously.

00:27:34
Speaker 2: So what's the best thing in your office aside from the Heisman trophy?

00:27:39
Speaker 5: Oh you got, Well, you can tell I'm a Kobe fan. So that's my mama mentality. And this is a signed jersey by Kobe saying to Matt, I don't.

00:27:52
Speaker 4: Know what that says.

00:27:52
Speaker 5: I can't read it, but from Kobe, Kobe's my favorite player of all time. You know, I gotta do the Heisman. I got to do a little bit of a Heisman flag, but I got the Kobe jersey. Dan, my favorite player, had a chance to get to know him, you know, just outside of sports. He's Orange County, was in Newport Beach and we had a lot of mutual friends, and I hung out with him a couple of times, barbecues and all that, and obviously I think, you know, like everybody affected us when he passed. But he's he's my goat man. So any any Kobe memorabilia I got, that's probably the best thing.

00:28:21
Speaker 2: So Okay, if you have to get out of the house and you can grab either the Heisman or the Kobe.

00:28:28
Speaker 5: Jersey, well I got two hands.

00:28:30
Speaker 4: Dan taking one of each.

00:28:34
Speaker 2: The heisman can feel replaced.

00:28:36
Speaker 5: And I don't think it can. That's actually a good question. I don't think I can replace my heisman trophy. I mean, I could get like a fake replica. But if I lose that, baby, I'm done.

00:28:44
Speaker 4: It's over.

00:28:45
Speaker 2: I'm taking that, Paully, can you check on that. If Matt something happens to the heisman.

00:28:51
Speaker 5: Yeah, let me tell you something about my office right now. Okay, I'm in I'm in the garage. Okay, so my wife took our office in the house. I'm in the owner of my garage in this little space.

00:29:02
Speaker 4: And I'm looking out here.

00:29:03
Speaker 5: I got I got crap everywhere, Dan, So that's that's how I'm living.

00:29:07
Speaker 4: But I got a nice.

00:29:07
Speaker 5: Little I don't have the setup that you have. You know, you got your you got your great stuff up there. But I'm working with what I got over here.

00:29:13
Speaker 2: Man, Did Penn State have any other option then to fire James Franklin.

00:29:18
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a great question. Well, I love James no In personally. I think he's fantastic. It's it's one of those things where I just feel like there was there was starting to be one a little bit of this panic kind of losing the fan base for the first time, I think this year, especially when you see a guy like Kurt Signetti, who I know is a name that's being thrown in there.

00:29:44
Speaker 4: But you see a team.

00:29:45
Speaker 5: Like Indiana winning right, these types of games something that James just hasn't been able to do in his tenure. Now he wins ten games every year. He's a fantastic coach. I think there's four or five coaches in the country that have consistently done that, whether they want the title or not, and that's that's James like.

00:30:01
Speaker 4: So he's been fantastic.

00:30:03
Speaker 5: But I just feel like there are Penn State's looking at the landscape and saying, gosh, if if Indiana can do this, if if if Landing can build this Oregon team out there, because Penn State's got unlimited resources too, they really do, I mean, they have everything, then then why haven't we been able to do that? So and I think there just finally was a little bit of this disconnect with the fan base for the first time. Uh and the brass So look, this is kind of the nature of the Beast. It's crazy if you think about this, They're one play away from beating Oregon a couple of weeks ago and maybe being the number one team in the country right now, and again that win might you know, give them momentum, but you lose to UCLA and then you lose at home again to two of statistically right now, some of two of the worst teams in the Big Ten. Look, I think that's what they thought had to be done. James will bounce back on his feet. I think the interesting thing is just who's going to get that job. Obviously you see the names that are up for it. But it's a fantastic job. I mean they've won, you know, ten games every year. You can win a national championship there. You have resources, you have a great administration, you got great fans, they have a huge renovation for the stadium. So everything is aligned up there for them to win a championship. And I think that's the reason why this happened is just because they haven't been able to do that.

00:31:17
Speaker 2: Good to talk to you again, Safe travels there to ann Arbor and good luck with it's Big ten dot org. Backslash Abbott for more information on donating blood.

00:31:26
Speaker 4: Thank you, matesome, Thanks Dan, good to see you, buddy.

00:31:30
Speaker 2: You know we were thinking about this talking about this yesterday. How do you feel if you're Northwestern that all of a sudden that was the tipping point, Like, Okay, you lost on the road to Ucla. Oh you lost to Northwestern. Now we're going to fire you. And it's like, I guess, is that a backheaded compliment?

00:31:49
Speaker 11: There?

00:31:49
Speaker 2: They take down coaches, Yes, Northwestern, we take down coaches.

00:31:53
Speaker 11: All right.

00:31:54
Speaker 2: Let me take a break. Last call for phone calls. What we learn once in store tomorrow after this.

00:31:59
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00:32:10
Speaker 2: I was talking to Seaton during the commercial break and I decided to get a popsicle. Well, the problem is, I didn't finish my popsicle. So I've got a half eaten popsicle right here. It's a bold mid show break snack. I have a popsicle. Yeah, I know. I was just kind of looking through the refrigerator and I thought, you know, about a popsicle.

00:32:31
Speaker 8: You got to know that's taken more than two minutes to take down.

00:32:34
Speaker 11: I know.

00:32:34
Speaker 2: And then you can't place a popsicle anyplace like once you have it, once you start, then you can't do anything with it because you.

00:32:41
Speaker 8: Put on the desk, it leaves a spot. And she put on a napkin it sticks.

00:32:44
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I've got my popsicle here all right. Uh, yes, it's got a budget.

00:32:51
Speaker 6: Your time a little better. We talked about this off there.

00:32:53
Speaker 2: Thank you, Tod Zach and Knoxville. Hi, Zach, what's on your mind today?

00:33:00
Speaker 4: Why are you just gonna.

00:33:01
Speaker 8: Stand there, sit there holding it the whole time?

00:33:03
Speaker 4: Yeah?

00:33:04
Speaker 2: Just keep eating it?

00:33:05
Speaker 8: You want like an assistant, like like Morris Day had Jerome next to him holding the mirror.

00:33:11
Speaker 2: No, because everybody has jobs to do.

00:33:14
Speaker 8: Come guys, im back with some time.

00:33:15
Speaker 2: No, No, those guys are working. If you're watching on Peacock, you know Mario Anthony. Uh, well they're not doing much. Then we have a kidnamed Matt. We still don't know what he does. He just shows up and sits in there. Uh, there's Tyler, he's not doing anything. Got my dog back there. Rob's over that. Rob's usually work and Dylan might be back there. There's Dylan. He not doing anything either, raised back there too. So well, they gave me the impression that they were working. Hey, Zach, what's on your mind day?

00:33:51
Speaker 12: I was gonna say, maybe Dylan can take a break from looking like he's forty to hold your popsicle. I was just going to say that it sounds a little bit like Mark Cuban in the latest episode of Pablotry finds out with this whole passing Liane thing. He gets presented with fact after fact and just uses mental gymnastics to come up with a different outcome than everybody else has and also wanted to shout out you on your episode of Pablotori finds out with him and Levatar. That was good, y'all, chop it up and worth a listen.

00:34:27
Speaker 2: Thank you, Zach. Yeah, I had fun with those guys. Pablo tre Yes, Don.

00:34:32
Speaker 6: Well, I can't do physical gymnastics.

00:34:34
Speaker 2: I'll take that.

00:34:35
Speaker 6: I'll do mental gymnastics.

00:34:36
Speaker 2: Jeremy and Long Beach. Hey Jeremy, what's on your mind today?

00:34:41
Speaker 1: Hi?

00:34:41
Speaker 6: Dan?

00:34:42
Speaker 7: Thanks for taking my call. First time caller, a longtime listener six foot in a fluctuating one to seventy five, and I wanted to bring up the topic. This seems to be a reoccurring issue with the playcock in the NFL, And like last night was a perfect instance where you had Chicago late in the game, the fourth quarter, ten thirty six on the clock, they were at their own forty five and the play clock hits zero and it takes at least half a second for the referee to make the call. And I don't understand why this day and age, with the technology we have, why there isn't just like a simple buzzer they could keep in their pocket or have around their neck or something that when that clock hit zero, then it triggers and they immediately blow the whistle. Because last night was a critical play and it led to a fifty five yard touchdown that completely changed the complexion of the game. And sorry, Paulie, I'm not ripping on your Bears. I'm not a fan of either team, but this just seems to be a reoccurring issue in the NFL and it leads to big plays at times.

00:35:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've talked about this before. I forget who we had on who said that, Like, there were so many times when the ball is snapped and it feels like it's being snapped right after right as it gets to zero zero, it's got zero's across the clock. I forget who brought that up. That it's almost like they give you or maybe it's different on the field. It was they had some excuse as to how they're able to not call this, and they give the quarterback the benefit of the doubt. Yes, Todd, I've wondered if.

00:36:12
Speaker 6: There's an edict from the commissioner or someone saying, no one likes to lay a game penalties. Let's move things along. If it's half a second, three quarters a second, even one full second, wink at it. We can't just stop it every time. It just immediately hits, which they should, you know, if you're going to be technically correct.

00:36:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, but nobody likes holding calls either, like you can't go you know, we're going to draw the line with delay of game penalties, but you know holding go ahead interference. Yes, it's too way too many flags.

00:36:40
Speaker 3: I don't know statistically if we look at it this year or what, but there's a flag thrown on almost every play.

00:36:46
Speaker 2: It feels like there's another one. That's why the Chiefs didn't have a penalty.

00:36:50
Speaker 3: It's okay, well one that's impossible, but going the other way is way worse, especially because some of the rules don't even make sense us in Florida.

00:37:01
Speaker 2: Hi Chris, what's on your mind?

00:37:03
Speaker 11: Hey Dan? Thanks for having me on. I'm still thinking about yesterday's show. Toward the end, you guys were talking. I think the topic was like really good bands that you never got or that you don't personally like, and I have a nomination for that. But before I get to it, Fritzy drove me crazy with his comments about Bob Dylan. And I get where he's coming from because him and I, I think, are about the same age. I'm just turning fifty in December, and as a child, I didn't think much about Dylan either. But when you become older and you have kids, and especially if you've gone through some stuff, you listen to those songs and like songs like hard Rain is going to Fall. That man is a genius. And not only is he a genius, he was writing those kinds of songs in his early twenties. They were so wise for his age that I can't believe it. So I just kind of wanted to mention that if flumped, you know, especially with him fancying himself as a singer, if you want to stick with Hall of Oates and the shiny, happy pop stuff you can, but I would encourage you to take another look at Dylan and then last thing, just to close it down, my nomination will be Warren von c.

00:38:06
Speaker 2: Oh Warren Zevon. Well, but Warren wasn't a huge artist. I mean he had were Wolves of London, lawyers, guns and money, but I don't know how many. I don't think he had best selling albums. But I when that were Wolves of London comes on, uh, it's great, lawyers, guns and money. The bleep has hit the fan, yes, Pauling.

00:38:31
Speaker 8: For me, Warren Zvon's the opposite category, a person, an artist you didn't know much about and discovered later and said, oh, this guy's legit and got into his stuff.

00:38:41
Speaker 2: Final results of the pole questions.

00:38:44
Speaker 3: People are wondering what would happen if Todd ate a popsicle mid segment?

00:38:50
Speaker 2: He would lose your mind. If it was called the Todd Fritt Show. It was called the Todd Fritz Show. Right, he did do whatever he wants. Patrick, That's what people are missing. I don't I don't want this go to waste. I thought I had more time and I realized I didn't, and then I thought, I don't want to throw it away. So that's it. I mean, I got it. There's no food in the studio the I know, thank you? Ton.

00:39:13
Speaker 3: Who was the MVP OTN last night? Blake Snell, Jon Robinson, DeAndre Smith, Swift or other? Right now, it's actually a tie between Bijon and Blake.

00:39:24
Speaker 2: How about that?

00:39:25
Speaker 3: Better playoffs to watch baseball or football? Football are winning that one and most likely to make the playoffs? Bears, Cowboys, Vikings. The Vikings have fifty six percent of that vote.

00:39:37
Speaker 4: And that is wrong.

00:39:41
Speaker 2: According to you? Right is the wrong? Okay?

00:39:43
Speaker 11: All right?

00:39:45
Speaker 2: How about this dange sports history.

00:39:47
Speaker 8: I'll just give you one. Nineteen ninety Joe Montana passed for four hundred and seventy six yards and six touchdowns in a game. Five of them were caught by Jerry Rice in one game nineteen ninety.

00:39:57
Speaker 2: On this date, Steve Bartman, Steve Burton.

00:40:03
Speaker 8: It should be on this date.

00:40:04
Speaker 2: Alex Gonzalez, Yes, yeah, he got a hall passed man oh man, huge, huge here. All right, let's go round the room. What we learn on the program? Todd? Would you learn today, Matt Line?

00:40:18
Speaker 4: It's all time favorite athlete Kobe Bryant and his office.

00:40:21
Speaker 6: Is situated in a small corner of his garage.

00:40:22
Speaker 2: I said, see, what did you learn Duane Jarrett today?

00:40:28
Speaker 3: That's a blast from the past.

00:40:29
Speaker 2: Yeah. Did he played for Carolina? Ye your second round, droft pick. I thought he was going to be a guy in the NFL. Marvin, Would you learn.

00:40:38
Speaker 1: You stole monitors from Rhesce Davis and Jason Jackson?

00:40:41
Speaker 2: I did, criminal I did, Paulie.

00:40:43
Speaker 8: Would you learn there is just nowhere to set your popsicle?

00:40:46
Speaker 2: No, I got it right here. Todd Wood, I learned that a young QB to get the blog quickly he heard.

00:40:50
Speaker 6: He says, you need for process things fast like Matt.

00:40:52
Speaker 2: Jones does on the road to South Bend. We'll be talking to you on Thursday and Friday. Have a great day, everybody,