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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Andrew Marshawn, senior sports media consultant, columnists for The Athletic, All right, help us understand this carriage dispute. And let's say I don't know anything, which you can say, but help me understand how we got here and how it's settled.

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Speaker 3: Well, how we got here is these disputes have been going on forever. YouTube started YouTube TV in twenty seventeen thirty five dollars per month, the idea of being cables too expensive, So you know, they put this together. It's become pretty popular. Ten million people have it, and.

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Speaker 4: Now as they grow where.

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Speaker 3: They're in competition with Comcast and Spectrum whoever.

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Speaker 4: Around twelve million.

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Speaker 3: Is the biggest places where people get their networks like ESPN, Fox, NBC, etc. They're now eighty two eighty three dollars a month. So what happens is there's fights all the time between over the years between providers like ESPN. ESPN charges around fifteen dollars per month to these entities and then they pass it on to consumers and so they are arguing about the price. When you look at Alphabet, which owns Google, and YouTube. They are a three trillion dollar company. Disney is a two hundred billion dollar company. And so it's I wrote my column yesterday, it's like rooting for the Dodgers or the Yankees.

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Speaker 4: Nobody wins. The losers are people like you have YouTube TV.

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, Dan, how do we make our voices heard? Because ESPN's had their big name talent come out, and I guess campaign that ESPN's not the bad guy in this.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think the point that I would make is the amount of money of these companies make three trillion dollars. You know, that's the market cap around for Alphabet For Disney, it's two hundred billions, So your eighty dollars is not that important to them.

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Speaker 4: So I'm not saying they don't care. I'm not saying they don't care. They do care.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they're insincere and caring at some level. But in terms of this is just pure business. YouTube wants to be treated like the big boys with the like I could pore people with the actualities of it all, but they want to be treated like the other big entities. ESPN is pointing to the fact that they just easily did deals with spectrum and others at the same price point or similar price points, and so that's where the divide is, and so there's no picking who's right. I wrote yesterday, Google's mantra or motto has been you know a couple of things, but one is, you know.

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Speaker 4: Do no evil.

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Speaker 3: It feels very evil that you're paying eighty dollars a month, you did your end, you didn't get your gay teams this weekend or Monday.

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Speaker 4: And then Mickey Mouse.

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Speaker 3: I've said before it's a he's a passive, aggressive little rodent. Now, they do a lot of great things at Disney, but they also are business people, so not always the happiest place on earth.

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Speaker 4: And so there's nobody a root for here.

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Speaker 3: And you know, we went through though where where it's gonna take a little longer now because you had college football on Saturday, you had Monday night football.

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Speaker 6: No deal.

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Speaker 3: So now I don't really expect anything to happen until you know, this weekend or maybe Monday football next week.

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Speaker 2: What's the future of streaming, Like, can you get to a point where ABC, CBS, NBC aren't carrying the marquee events? Is there is that in the linear TV in the not too distant future.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think that. I think if you look at all time.

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Speaker 3: Maybe, but in terms of the short term, next decade or so, we're you're gonna have this. I mean, I think a perfect example would be the NBA just did incredible deals for them for seventy six billion dollars and they're gonna be on NBC, your peacock as well.

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Speaker 4: They're on Amazon Prime and then they remained on ABC and ESPN.

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Speaker 3: So the idea that Netflix or YouTube TV or Apple or Amazon Prime Video is about to take over everything is a misnomer, at least in the near term.

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Speaker 4: Even when the NFL, which is surely going.

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Speaker 3: To opt out when they can at the end of this decade, or at least the threat and to opt out, I don't think it will change. I do think you could see a Netflix get in bigger, or YouTube TV getting bigger, Amazon Prime Video getting more. I think those are all possibilities, But I don't think, and I think it would be stupid of the NFL where to get rid of the model they have with ABC and ESPN.

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Speaker 4: And the networks.

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Speaker 3: And so, yes, those guys are coming, but they're not fully there yet.

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Speaker 2: Andrew Marshawn. He works for the app Athletic. You can also listen to is twice a week podcast at Andrew marshawan dot com. How good month did baseball have?

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Speaker 4: Amazing?

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Speaker 3: I think we all were intrigued the numbers for Fox. Twenty six million people watched on Game seven, which is even if you understand the ratings because of a Canadian team. They didn't get the Toronto market, so the home city market. I think there are another ten million people or so who watched in Toronto. Those don't count for Fox's ratings.

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Speaker 4: So really good. And then the playoffs are always really good Baseball.

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Speaker 3: Look, I've crushed baseball because the way they've done their media deals have been terrible, and they're just they're still bad, and they're pointing towards twenty twenty nine and maybe they'll be able to make it so it's a little less complicated. If you're a Yankee fan, for example, you might go seven days and you might have to have seven different entities to watch your games.

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Speaker 4: It's a problem.

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Speaker 3: And so but the sport as a whole is really doing well. The pitchclock we all know is great. Attendance has been very high, the playoffs are exciting and the best time in the sport. So you know they're gonna have to figure out their media deals. But in terms of this month giving them some momentum going into next year when they add NBC and Peacock, they are gonna be on Netflix for opening Day and then ESPN and ABC. Steal is going to change a little bit. They have momentum as a sport. Now, they got to figure out how to get rid of blackouts and some other things which they know and they're not they're not naive to it all. But that's their next step in terms of growing even more.

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Speaker 2: How is ESPN done bringing in the TNT studio show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's been great. I think I love Charles Barky like you do. I think we were probably too maybe talk to him the most throughout the whole process.

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Speaker 4: When he retired and unretired.

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Speaker 3: And and he did kind of get into that he thought, you know, they didn't tell him.

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Speaker 5: I mean I.

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Speaker 3: Reported from the beginning they weren't acquiring it to change it. I mean, you see what they've done with Pat McAfee. They licensed his show. He does his show the way he wants.

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Speaker 4: Steven A.

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Speaker 3: Smith at this point does whatever he wants. The idea that you're going to bring in those four guys iconic show and change it did not make any sense, and especially if you watched what ESPN's done.

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Speaker 4: So you know ESPN social media people go a little crazy.

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, some other people who have some big audience did kind of question if ESPN would leave it alone.

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Speaker 4: I never thought they would touch it. And so it's the same program.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be off of the air a little bit now till the new year, but then it will be on every week through the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Good to talk to you, Thank you, Andrew. Thanks Dan, Andrew marsha On.

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Speaker 2: I do call Jay Glazer. I do call. I talk to him kind of spiritual guidance. Sometimes I get with Jay Glazer. I'm just like I am. I'm not feeling good physically and Jay Goo hey man, like he's my life coach. I didn't know I needed one, but I got one. Jay Glazer from Fox NFL Sunday joining us from London? Yes, what are you doing in London?

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Speaker 6: Why not?

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Speaker 7: Why would I not be here? London's the trade deadliner? Well, the trade throw down? Didn't you know that?

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Speaker 2: Are you ahead of everything?

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Speaker 5: Do you know?

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Speaker 6: I'm getting ahead for Sunday out here in London?

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Speaker 8: You know?

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Speaker 6: You know what happened. I'm doing our Veterans Day Show, which is the best show we do every year.

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Speaker 7: Right, We're not doing it from a military base this year, so I'm gonna be doing it from Washington, d C.

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Speaker 6: From the Veterans Day Parade. And I said to.

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Speaker 7: My wife, Hey, you know, I'm never on the East Coast during the season ever, so you want to go somewhere Caribbean or something like.

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Speaker 6: It's just as you know, to go from Malibu to Washington, d C. Is you know seven hours? I said, you want to do?

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Speaker 7: And she said, you know, my wife was modeled all over the world and she's never been to London.

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Speaker 6: So she's like, how about London. I'm like done, So We're going to London.

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Speaker 7: So that's why I'm doing the trade deadline from London here and I'm gonna go from here to DC.

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Speaker 2: Awesome. So it's the Veterans Day Show Sunday from DC, the Veterans Day Parade with Fox NFL Sunday. What do you expect to happen today?

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Speaker 6: So no, no, go ahead, So I do look Dallas, it isn't done.

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Speaker 7: I want to make some moves here. Uh, they're brought in the Logan Wilson. They're also still talking about bringing in a pass rusher. Seattle's getting little. They've been aggressive to upgrade most on the offensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 6: You know, everyone's looking for pass rushers.

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Speaker 7: But but you know, for Trey Hendrickson, who a week ago, I would you know, teams are like now they're they're not interested. Now they're more than listening, but they're asking for an awful lot Bradley Chubb's the other guy out there, which which I think Miami is just kind of looking to get his money off their books.

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Speaker 6: They're not asking for an awful lot.

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Speaker 7: So I could see one of these teams looking for a pass rusher like you know Dallas Chicago teams like that, you know, jumping in on a on a Bradley Chubb. And then you know, look, everyone's looking for a corner, but there's really no corners out there. A couple of receivers on Fox that you know, there are teams who were asking about a j. Brown and he was like, no, no shot that they'd be a mutant in that locker room of Ajan Brown went anywhere. So that's not happening. So then after that, you know there's a big drop off. There's like, you know, she Heed from the Saints. I can see him go on the move, Calvin Ridley from the Titans. They're trying to you know, shop around for a third round pick, which is a lot. You know, Myer's out in with the Raiders and the Steelers were interested earlier, but there's not you know, people for trade deadline, they're hoping that okay, we're gonna have a Christian McCaffrey type thing. And even like Garoppolo is big years ago when the forty nine ers did that, or Von Miller with the Rams.

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Speaker 6: A couple of years ago.

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Speaker 7: They're hoping for these big names, but it's just not like that these days. It hasn't been for the last couple of years.

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Speaker 2: But of all these edge rushers, I don't know if Max Crosby is untouchable.

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Speaker 6: No so Max.

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Speaker 7: Max told me he does want to go anywhere. That's straight from the worst of mouth, which he's told them, and they've also told.

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Speaker 6: Him we're not moving yet.

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Speaker 7: I know it's fun because you put a little thing out the other yesterday with like an eagle symbol, and everybody thought he.

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Speaker 5: Was going to the Eagle.

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Speaker 6: I actually texted one of my guys and the eagles and I.

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Speaker 2: Wish and it's not happening, okay.

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Speaker 7: But I had another team say to me they asked me to ask about Max. It's funny to being an inside because people will ask at.

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Speaker 2: Least me, wait, they're using you as a middleman, because then.

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Speaker 7: It's culpable deniability if they If I've been had teams off say hey, can you offer them this? Because then let's say it's a player and it's not them trying to get rid of player.

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Speaker 6: Right, they didn't call I call.

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Speaker 7: I'm just an inside trying to get, trying to get, but then I have the inside information.

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Speaker 6: But Max, I had A team asked me about.

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Speaker 7: Max and I said, uh, I said, no, he wants to stay, you know, and uh, guys like, man, he's loyal, said, Max is extremely loyal, and they go, that's what we love them.

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Speaker 6: But man, we wish he wasn't.

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Speaker 2: What about Miles Garrett? No untouchable.

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Speaker 7: I've been told the hard no from everybody I've asked. You know, I don't understand. If I'm the Browns and I can get, I think you can. Probably you may be able to get more than what you know Dallas cut from Michael Parsons, they're clearly going, you know, they're still in thoroughs in rebuilding mode, so there's just always a rebuilding, rebuilding mode.

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Speaker 6: I feel bad for Browns fans, I really do.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's speaking of the Browns, and I know there's all this you know, speculation, rumor innuendo, and then somebody says, hey, the Jets should trade for Shador Sanders so let me just ask, is is that something that you think that the Jets would entertain.

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Speaker 7: I don't know what the Jets thinking is, but obviously they have a quarterback issue over there, so I don't know. I don't know where they had him in the draft, and that's another issue. I think there's a lot of teams were looking at Shaudors. You're really high up when you want him the first or second. They didn't, so I don't even know they can consider him later on. Clearly he's talented, right, so he kind of just got lost in that shuffle, but I don't know where he.

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Speaker 2: Was on their board or torp me to say, we're talking to Jay Glazer joining us from of course London, Fox NFL Sunday Insider, and he'll be there for the Veterans Day Parade in DC coming up this week.

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Speaker 7: In the Veterans I'm not going to be in London for the Veterans Day break good. That was totally messed up with.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that would be. That would be ben. Let me speculate on Chris Greer the GM getting fired by the Dolphins. I'll just speculate and then you tell me if I'm off base, because you're keeping Mike McDaniel to the end of the regular season. And I'm wondering if management said or ownership said, hey, we need you to sell off these parts and Chris Greer said, no, I don't want to. I brought all these guys, built this and uh and then they fire him, but they keep the head coach.

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Speaker 7: No, No, I don't think that at all. I don't know why the timing was. It was interesting though, because of the timing of that's.

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Speaker 2: It's a week before the trade deadline when you need GM.

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Speaker 7: Yes, because also all the conversations that he had had Champ Kelly, poor Champ Kelly got the Sunday He's like, I don't really know what conversations really were being at and like, you know, I had one GM just like I'm just gonna tell.

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Speaker 6: Them that Chris and I have disagreed upon right. It was terrible timing.

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Speaker 7: There was definitely a lot of empathy for champ Kelly in there, But no, I don't think that was why they did it.

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Speaker 6: But yes, it has There's a lot of people.

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Speaker 7: Who looking in the league going why because then you have the Madrid game then the bye, so it makes sense there and I do know Steve Russ had a lot of love for Chris Career. I don't know why they decided then, why they had to make that move at that point, because that set things back. Maybe it did, maybe because again there they still got you know, a three for Jail and Phillips.

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Speaker 6: They're gonna move.

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Speaker 7: I think I wouldn't be a surprised if they moved Chubbed today, you know. And then you know the problem also is that now when you're trying to do a trade though, it has to go all the way up to the flagpole, yeah there in Miami. So you know it's different than if it was just Chris Career.

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Speaker 2: Why did they keep the head coach?

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Speaker 6: I think you know, Steve russtill hasn't fitted for that coach.

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Speaker 2: Can he save his job?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I think you know what the reason why? I say, yeah, you remember that year Jim Fossel look like he was done.

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Speaker 7: He's like, I'm putting all my chips in the middle of the table, right, and then they go on this run they go to the super Bowl, right. Remember also the year and this is why I don't do the coach's totsia crap because remember the year also that Ron Rivera. He was supposedly fired, and then he goes to this great run, becomes riverboat Ron they go to the Super Bowl right like you know there was. People have guys fired all the time, and I don't do it because I like to deal in accuracy. I don't need I told you the guys this years ago. I like to be right, and that's why I don't do the minute by minute breaking new stuff anymore, because.

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Speaker 6: People don't care about who's right. They care about who first, and.

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Speaker 7: Even when you're first, everybody' stealing it inside two seconds. So I just want to make sure I'm always right and that the coaching carousel, there's gonna be fifteen twenty names on every year, there's gonna be seven openings, which means at least half of those or three fourths of those were incorrect.

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Speaker 6: So is there a way for him to save his job? There is? It involves winning the table in a really big fashion.

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Speaker 2: What's the future of tu Uh and Kyler Murray In your opinion.

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Speaker 7: I wouldn't be surprised if after this year, you know, they could see if they can get something for Kyler after this year.

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Speaker 6: I don't know what kind of market there would be for Coyle.

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Speaker 7: And then as far as the Dolphins, I can't answer because I don't know who's gonna be the coach next year. If it's Micha l'daniel, those two have worked really well in the past. Mike has a really good offensive coach. There's you can't deny that it's a really good offensive coach. But I can't answer that because I don't know who's gonna be there. But as far as Kyler, there is there's certain certainly cap implications. It was even this.

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Speaker 6: Look.

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Speaker 7: You hear so many things during this trade deadline, and one of them was, hey, man, I'm here.

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Speaker 6: You know Colonels are shopping Kyler. I'm like, there's no way, there's.

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Speaker 7: No way you're gonna be able to do that now with the capital implications. But I can almost see it like, Okay, it's starting to leak out there now, just to set it up for the.

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Speaker 6: Off season to see what's out there.

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Speaker 7: And that's you know the other funny line. I used the stun Fox the other day, but this is real.

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Speaker 6: I got this.

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Speaker 7: I like four or five different gms have the same type of line where they're like, oh, the line for for subterfuge. This here, like everybody here on the draft try to try to do subterfuge with you know, reporters and this and that, right, but they're using it on each other the GMS this year's trade deadline, where guy would be like, man, we're not trying to trade player expert. Can you believe all these guys are calling us about player X, which means, what don't you want to give us some player exit?

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Speaker 2: Subterfuge? Look at you. You go to London and you're using words.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I'm all smart. I't to you with in Oxford.

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Speaker 2: Uh. And you're in great spirits, you're in great health.

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Speaker 6: Great hey, And I like what you said. I appreciate it. Man, Dan, I love you.

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Speaker 7: And you know, listen, I talk to people all the time about checking up on their people when worse, when I'm struggling, I check up on two people and let them know. But I also, at the same time check up on two people and don't let them know. And that's just my way of being of service and that helps me between the ears. And you're one of the guys I reached out to and try and and check up on it.

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Speaker 6: And I know what you went.

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Speaker 7: Through that that your health issues. It's man, it's slnely and it's miserable. And I'm like, I will be there for my dude. And then out of nowhere, right you check up on me. I know last year, out of nowhere, I know, right like Dan, I got the thing for you.

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Speaker 6: You got this place called origins.

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Speaker 7: I went down and did themselves and prevented me from a three level fusion on my back and it freaking regrew the reattached the my torn bicep tendant back to my shoulder, like built a bridge, like tune.

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Speaker 6: You got to try this.

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Speaker 7: If anything, you'll just you and your wife will love going down and you'll have the best time. And it gave you a healing which like to meet you and I have had a bunch of tears on it. That's what a brother should do for the for the brothers. Man, you know, you share healing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, out of nowhere, I called Jay, I said to my wife, I said, I got to call Jay Glazer. She goes, who's Jay Glazer? I said, I go in, who's j Glazier?

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Speaker 6: Don't watch Fox simple.

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Speaker 2: Sun, No, No, she's she's she's a chefty guy, you know. No, she's not. No, not after I explained who you were, and then I talked to you and I said, hun, we're going to Panama for stem cell. She goes anything that will help you and I and she heard your voice and she said, he boys, he always liked that. I said, no, no, you went through a dark period and I remember talking to you and then I called you and You're like, dude, I'm going to Italy. I'm getting married. I've never felt better in my life. I go, wait a minute, what are you doing? And then I mean, helped change my life and got got me healthy. Err And as I've said before on this show, it's not for everybody. It's something that I believe in.

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Speaker 6: It for everybody.

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Speaker 2: Well, I just want to be careful because people have said, hey, it didn't work for me, or you know, they're not going to the right place. But but it is is it helped me and it's a stem cell umbilical cord stem cell.

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Speaker 5: And uh.

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Speaker 2: I went to Panama at a place called Origins. And you know when you go in there and there are famous people in there, Jay, and you're you're going, oh, oh hi, yeah, oh hi, you know, are you all down there to heal right, yes, yes, uh, I know. Are you checking your phone for trade in for I'm getting.

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Speaker 7: Call actually now saying guy asked me, what do you think about Quinn Williams?

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Speaker 6: Last second here might have a shot? So great, dude, love the guy, don't know her.

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Speaker 2: The Jets selling well, they warn't.

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Speaker 7: They were kind of like, hey, you gotta make us a huge offer, blow us out of the water. But you know, maybe somebody's willing to do something like that. But I think that's just the interpretation of one team. That's that's what you got to go through.

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Speaker 2: Quentin Williams would be a great pick up for something.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know if that's really going to be.

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Speaker 2: But Chub's going to get traded, you think so?

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Speaker 6: No, I think Cowboys Chubs early on the block, so.

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Speaker 7: He has a better chance than I think Williams. I'm just saying quinnin as of the other day was like a hard no. And now it's kind of like, hey, maybe we can make a run of them.

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Speaker 6: Can we make a run? And guys will ask me like what kind of.

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Speaker 7: What kind of guy? They last me, what kind of guy is you know what? Like you go back to the stem cell I've trained. I was one of the first guys in the NFL to fight professionally in mixed martial arts and twenty two years ago, and before we really knew how to we just beat the hell out of each other.

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Speaker 6: And then I Fox made me stop fighting.

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Speaker 7: I started coaching guys, and I've started training NFL players in MMA, and I've trained hundreds and hundreds so as a results, and then also like my training partners are Randy Gature and Chuck Ladell and guys like this, And I got everything working against me.

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Speaker 6: I'm five foot seven, Jewish guy said, I got everything working against me.

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Speaker 7: But as a result of wrestling all these football players man and training with these guys in spar and I've ruptured twelve discs.

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Speaker 6: In my back.

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Speaker 7: I don't have an L four L five And Dan, that's like you had heard me, Like I had a doctor.

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Speaker 6: Doctor walkins out here.

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Speaker 7: He's like, Jay, there's no more epidurals, there's no more tortos. No, like we either got to do a three level fusion or we're putting a rod in your back. And for me, I just thought life was gonna be over. Like people keep asking me, why do you keep like training and sparring and doing this. I said, I'd rather kill me than I die from not doing it. And I went down just on a I threw a flyer up on that stem cell. And the next day it's supposed to take like good, you know, sixty days, ninety days, whatever.

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Speaker 6: I was a super responder.

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Speaker 7: Day two, I got out of bed and my wife was like, oh my god, you're standing straight up. You're five to seven again. But as the first time I had been paying free in twenty something year. I first ruped through my back in two thousand and one or something like that, and man, it's just changed my life.

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Speaker 6: So I'm glad I was able to give you healing.

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Speaker 2: Man, I really give me the NFL player you think could professionally fight like ufc oh Man.

00:23:54
Speaker 7: There's a bunch of First of all, Kyle Long, but you'd have to get down. We have to fight in Japan with his no weight limits, was so nasty. Deshaun Golston safety, Oh my god. And then a guy that I've trained recently last couple of years, Derwin James.

00:24:11
Speaker 5: Man.

00:24:11
Speaker 6: I love Durwin.

00:24:12
Speaker 7: Derwin is so athletic and he just picks everything up and move and some athletes it takes a little while from them pick things up.

00:24:20
Speaker 6: Other guys, man, they pick it up. I'll tell you what. The other interesting thing.

00:24:23
Speaker 7: I've also trained a bunch of performers, right, I'm trying to training that Jonas brothers and like whiz Khalifa and stoop Dog Demie Levado. Though they pick things up really well because they could pick up several steps, they could pick up five steps in a row, and their hits move great and they can connected with their footwork. Everything starts from the ground up. We're NFL players and like I have a wrestling background, we're meat ats. You know, It's just we don't we're not able to think that far ahead, but we can.

00:24:48
Speaker 6: Get like that. It's pretty interesting. You think Derwin James, I'll take her.

00:24:51
Speaker 2: Do you think I could take a Jonas brother?

00:24:54
Speaker 6: I think you would. Uh, you'd get choked out pretty fast. But that's just me.

00:24:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the new one improved me right with the stem cells. It I'm going after Joe Jonas. I don't think he could take me. My best to your your wife, thanks for joining us and save travels back for the Veterans Day.

00:25:15
Speaker 6: I love you, man, love to see you doing better.

00:25:18
Speaker 2: Thank you. It's Jay Glazier. He'll be back on Sunday, Fox NFL Sunday the Veterans Day Parade. That's their biggest show. And uh joining us from London.

00:25:27
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to listen live. All right, before I get to Reggie Miller, he was on the Rushmore podcast and Reggie was asked the mount Rushmore of dunkers. He said, Michael Jordan, Vince Carter, and Dominique Wilkins, and then came the fourth.

00:25:55
Speaker 2: One said the fourth is very difficult.

00:25:58
Speaker 6: It's very very difficult.

00:26:01
Speaker 9: I will go with I do like Okay, okay.

00:26:10
Speaker 2: Okay, NICs bringing Reggie Miller. Reggie, you'll be on the call the Clippers and Oklahoma City coming up tonight.

00:26:18
Speaker 5: Okay, I said it, and Dick with it.

00:26:25
Speaker 2: No, you're not. You left out, doctor.

00:26:27
Speaker 5: J I said it, and change it right now.

00:26:38
Speaker 2: You panicked, Red, You don't panic.

00:26:42
Speaker 5: I didn't panic. I thought, first of all, we all had to have come to a consensus. So that was my list. Shack had an entirely. He had power dunkers on his list to omit arguably the founding fall of the dunk It's a slight omission from my end, but I wasn't going my current events. Zach Lavine. In my opinion, if you've seen some of our dunk contests over the last ten plus years, he's right up there. Yes, Doctor J should be in there, and arguably he was at the end of the day, because all four of us that had this roundtable discussion had to agree on the top four. And yes, people, Doctor J did make the mount rushmore of dunkers.

00:27:36
Speaker 2: Because I want to know what you do in a game. There's a lot of guys who can dunk in a contest. I don't care very true, because you know, if that's the case, I'm taking Mac McClung.

00:27:50
Speaker 5: That's probably as bad as take as Zach Lavine.

00:27:52
Speaker 2: On my end, No, no, no, I'm going to take Mac McClung over Zach Levine. The greatest dunkers between those two well showmanship.

00:28:02
Speaker 5: Because if that's the case, you could put Aaron Gordon in there as well. Because Aaron Gordon and Zach Lavine, those two dunk contests between those two guys could have been the best ever.

00:28:13
Speaker 2: I just want in game dunkers, Sean Kemp in game dunker, Dominique in game dunker, Mike Vince Carter in game dunker, Doctor J in game dunker.

00:28:25
Speaker 5: You can make a case for Zaquabne. We would have to go on We would have to go on YouTube for a few hours and try to find some of those, but we could find a couple of them well.

00:28:37
Speaker 2: And then Shaq didn't like your take though on your fourth dunker there, But.

00:28:44
Speaker 5: Again he was going with power dunkers Kenyan Martin. I mean, he didn't sell he put himself in there. But this is what I'm up again, going against the big fella.

00:28:55
Speaker 2: Okay, let me get to a serious topic here with Yahn Morant, because this feels like this is there's no turning back here. It feels like Jahn Moran's checked out. Now, if you're Memphis, what do you do? Where do you send him? Or do you see that maybe there's hope that he reconnects and re engages here or is that ship sum I.

00:29:19
Speaker 5: Believe the ship has sailed, and I think the only way you're going to be able to turn course is if you get a new coach in there, because if they keep the current administration, jaw has checked out. I didn't like the comments or the body language after that Laker game, and listening to the comments last night after the loss at home against Detroit, it was almost even worse. Body language tells me everything, and just looking at it, he has checked out. And you know, I look at their roster. The oldest player on their roster is thirty two year old Contavious Caldwell, Pope champion when he was with Denver, and he's thirty two and he's still fairly young. There is no one on that team to go to John and say, dude, yeah, you got to get it together. And I think that's been a theme over the last five to ten years looking at some of these rosters is not having veterans on them. I know this league is getting younger, but to me, John needs someone pull them aside, show him some clips. I mean, because this is a bad look. And if you're Memphis, I think you start filding calls unless you're going to fire your coach, and then that's that's a bad precedent, right.

00:30:53
Speaker 2: But who wants John Moran?

00:30:56
Speaker 5: There are a lot of themes that would want John Moran. Would you what what do you give up for him?

00:31:03
Speaker 2: Okay, if I'm the Hawks, what if what if the Hawks said, We'll give you Tray Young for John Moran?

00:31:09
Speaker 5: I would seriously think about it.

00:31:12
Speaker 2: If I'm Memphis, I would do that in the second.

00:31:15
Speaker 5: If I'm If I'm the Hawks, I don't know if I do that. Tray Young is a walking double double.

00:31:23
Speaker 2: Oh, I agree, I would. If I could get Trey Young right now for John Morant.

00:31:28
Speaker 5: I would absolutely do it. If you're mid fit.

00:31:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, if I'm Atlanta, I probably wouldn't do it. But I'm trying to think of other teams where you're gonna go he'll fit in like he doesn't fit in. You kind of have to fit in with him. It feels like. And he's an unbelievable talent, But are you going to send him to Detroit or Houston?

00:31:50
Speaker 5: I don't know he would. He would certainly have to change the way he plays, and I don't think he can't. Theodore. I love John Morant, but again, looking at that Laker game and looking last night in that Detroit game, the efforts not there, the hustle's not there, that the on the court, showmanship that we're used to seeing from Jaw is not there. He has lost his love for the game. And once you do that, I don't know if you can ever get that back in that situation. So what a new lease on life, a new place, a new destination that's is that going to clear things up? A new coaching regime? Is that gonna switch it up again? Both ways? If you ask for a trade or they trade him, he wins. It sets a bad precedence. If you fire the coach and it makes it look like he's a coach killer, that sets a bad precedence. There's gonna be no winners in this situation.

00:32:55
Speaker 2: Talking to Reggie Miller, Reggie will be on the call with Terry Gannon and it'll be Oklahoma City bus. Is Kawhi playing?

00:33:03
Speaker 5: I have no idea. I saw him tweak that ankle with a little over two minutes left in that fourth quarter. I looked at the Clippers have always taken, as you know, a cautious approach. I don't even if he wouldn't have rolled that ankle. You know, they usually don't play him in back to backs, though he did come out this summer and said he wanted to play back to backs, and I think that's what they were gearing up for. But after seeing that now again, he finished the game, but it was only two minutes left in that fourth quarter where they ended up losing by one last night to the Heat, I don't think he will play because they will take that caution approach because they need Kawai come March April May. So I think they'll they'll take the cautus approach and probably not play him. From a selfish standpoint for NBC, yes, I would love for him to play tonight, going against the defending champs who are undefeated, but I just don't think they'll take that approach.

00:34:02
Speaker 2: Game time is eight pm Pacific on NBC and Peacock. Is Kawhi's career a disappointment?

00:34:12
Speaker 5: No? Are you kidding me? Two rings, two finals MVP? Are you that was a joke? Right? No?

00:34:21
Speaker 2: Because he couldn't he when he played, he was great. But I think when I say Kawhi Leonard, people don't talk about two rings and two finals MVPs. They talk about a guy who had load management, almost the face of load management.

00:34:37
Speaker 5: I will also say this, he believes on the all time team with me the top seventy five team as well. How could that ever be considered a disappointment? Well, by time, you can win any chip, two finals, MVPs with two different teams, well two different teams.

00:34:57
Speaker 2: But if I say his name that what comes up is that how much he plays or doesn't play? First bowel hall.

00:35:06
Speaker 5: Of Famer, this first ballot Hall of Famer and win healthy when healthy and playing and engage which he is come playoff time. Man, that dude is a tough out. Yeah, I would say I would take that career. Please give me that caller.

00:35:25
Speaker 2: No, you can still have a great career. But also wonder what could Mike Trout is going to be a first ballol Hall of Famer? So what if, right like show be Kobe and Shack together? What if?

00:35:41
Speaker 5: What if?

00:35:43
Speaker 2: Great when they played? But what if? So you can have those questions, but that what if?

00:35:50
Speaker 5: Those what if that you're saying for Kobe and Shack they still have three rings together?

00:35:56
Speaker 2: They should have had six.

00:36:00
Speaker 5: They could have. I mean you could have made the case the same thing for keeping the Bulls together for.

00:36:06
Speaker 2: One more year?

00:36:07
Speaker 5: Right for one more ye? Yeah? What what if?

00:36:17
Speaker 2: I also want to ask you about your did you have a power forward?

00:36:21
Speaker 5: Uh?

00:36:21
Speaker 2: Your four power forwards for the amount Rushmore? Did you have that?

00:36:25
Speaker 5: Is there? We did?

00:36:27
Speaker 2: Okay? Uh, Marvin, you want to set this up? Is this the fourth power forward? Yes, Marvin, Yes.

00:36:34
Speaker 10: So Reggie and Shaq were on the Rushmore podcast, and so Reggie's four Reggie's first three, excuse me, was Tim Duncan, Karl Malone, and Kevin Garnett. And he says his fourth, his fourth isn't shocking, but who he says could have been one was a little surprising to me.

00:36:49
Speaker 2: All Right, play it.

00:36:51
Speaker 11: I'm gonna go with sir Charles. I easily could have put Dennis Rodman in that list. I easily could have done that on my Mount Rushmore.

00:37:02
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, do you have with Yeah, it's not bad. I would have put here here.

00:37:13
Speaker 5: Here's here's the argument. Here's the argument that was going on in the room. Because obviously Yanish probably can and should be he could be on my list. Absolutely. I've told people before, I told the basketball Godsmith, I've said this perfectly. If I come back, if the basketball gods could bless me with Janni's talent and my jump shot, I would be the greatest player to have ever played the game of basketball. Usually just give me Yannis and my jump shot and then leave me alone. No one would ever be able to touch me. So yes, he could have been on my Mount Rushmore. But the argument was going with because Ari Manuel, it's his podcast. He was on with Chips. That's why Dennis Rodman entered the conversation. And people are like, Dennis Rodmin is probably only the grandest rebound. How could he? We're looking at total effects on games. He changed series, so we started putting numbers up like what did Charles avagsch Akinson? What did carl at? Those numbers dropped because we're looking at the defensive side too, So that's why Dennis Rodman I could say I could easily slot them in there. But yes, the honest could be. The honest was on a lot of other people's top four and arguably should be. Again, give me his talent in my jump shot and don't say anything else to me.

00:38:41
Speaker 2: I think Kevin McHale would be higher than Dennis Rodman.

00:38:47
Speaker 5: His name was highly disgusted. We agree with that. I agree with you on that.

00:38:52
Speaker 2: Okay, I want to run this up the ladder at Peacock and NBC the next round of interviews with Michael Jordan. I would like for you to do the interview.

00:39:02
Speaker 5: Okay, how do you say that? Not that, It's like, I would love to do it. And this is the premise. We just both walk in a room and sit down and rolling.

00:39:16
Speaker 2: No no exchange, no exchange.

00:39:20
Speaker 5: None of that, none of that. Walk in, sit down, look at each other and just go whatever comes out comes out.

00:39:30
Speaker 2: I love it that.

00:39:33
Speaker 5: Look. I want to do it. I'm low man on the total pole over there at NBC right now we're rolling out these features with the great Mike Tarico, who's done a fabulous job interviewing MJ. But yes, I would love to have a have an open dialogue to your door with MJ. Because there's certain things I would love.

00:39:59
Speaker 2: To you, like, uh, you know, talk about revisit, revisit Okay, I'd like to.

00:40:09
Speaker 5: Forget like I don't people act like I don't like MJ. I love MJ. But when you go against a brother for as many years as I did, you you built up a certain disdain. Can you say that? Can I say that you built up a certain tolerance and there was always mutual respect. I'm trying to I'm carefully trying to script my words here.

00:40:36
Speaker 2: You don't want it to get back to Mike, And he said, what did you say?

00:40:39
Speaker 4: No?

00:40:40
Speaker 5: Good, Look, it's only going to get back to Mike. Mike hears and sees everything. He'll always get back to him. But I just want him to know how much I do respect him. But let's just walk in a room together and just talk.

00:40:53
Speaker 2: Phil Jackson. Phil Jackson has a book that's coming out and it talks about the exchange that you and Mike ad where you were talking trash to him, and then I think Phil says, Mike scores like five or six baskets in a row and saying, don't you ever don't you ever talk bleep about me or to me again? Is that true?

00:41:16
Speaker 5: Unfortunately, but you were willing.

00:41:24
Speaker 2: To stand up to Mike, and not many guys did.

00:41:28
Speaker 5: I had an unfiltered mouth, and maybe it was my upbringing in a military family, being a military brat and getting my butt beat by my older sister and older brothers all the time. I had diary of the mouth. And you, I just could not stop. And I didn't care who you were or what your accomplishments were. I felt I was always the best player, knowing I was didn't know I wasn't, but you gotta have that belief. And he look, he put the fear in a lot of people. And trust me, there was times when I was like this dude, but I didn't love him, respect him. Damn. I also hated him too. I did.

00:42:19
Speaker 2: If he would have asked you to join the Bulls, would.

00:42:22
Speaker 5: You stop it? Stop it? Please stop that.

00:42:27
Speaker 2: Like later in your No.

00:42:30
Speaker 5: No, there's just no way. There's absolutely no way. And I know people are gonna be like, well, yeah, that's why you don't have any rings probably so it's true. Yeah, well I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna. I'm not. I can't do that. That goes against That goes against everything I was taught from Magic and Michael Cooper, and that goes against everything. If you can't beat him, you just go in the corner and sit down, just go away. Then if you get hey, that's it.

00:43:00
Speaker 2: What if Magic called you and said, if Magic said, hey, would you.

00:43:03
Speaker 5: Like to story?

00:43:09
Speaker 2: Now that's different. I'm playing for the Lakers.

00:43:14
Speaker 5: Different the Lakers twice a year.

00:43:17
Speaker 2: All right, I'm running this up the flagpole at NBC the next time that Tarico's gonna sit down. Mike comes in and then Tarico goes, hey, uh, I gotta go. Reggie's going to do the interview.

00:43:33
Speaker 5: Oh my god, the fireworks. Some of the things that would be said, you will understand, like Mike and I and our good friend Jack Hayley, God rest his soul, who's looking down on us smiling. We hope like we used to be locked in a room playing TNK, talking shit and just talking basketball. And there were some things that were said in the In these it was trust me, just have him walk in, Have me walk in and just sit down so I won't look at him.

00:44:08
Speaker 2: Do you need to bring the Davis brothers with you if.

00:44:11
Speaker 5: You walk in, Well, he's gonna bring him.

00:44:15
Speaker 2: If he brings Oak, he's bringing I'm bringing down.

00:44:19
Speaker 5: All right, we'll let the muscle handle each other out and then he and I can handle our business.

00:44:25
Speaker 2: Reggie will be on the call with Terry a Gin and tonight the Clippers maybe with Kawhi against OKC eight pm Pacific on NBC and Peacock. Thank you, Regg, talk to you later.

00:44:37
Speaker 5: Well. You are truly the best. Love you, Dan