Club 520 - DeMar DeRozan on Kobe Bryant relationship, losing to LeBron, getting traded for Kawhi

The volume A right, we back at the episode of 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:10.200 Club five twenty podcasts. I'm the house, Miami is DJ 0:00:10.320 --> 0:00:12.720 well special guests in the building. To my left, we're 0:00:12.720 --> 0:00:15.319 gonna introduce my Man's last But to my far left 0:00:15.320 --> 0:00:17.440 we got my dog. BI should be hearing out the prailes. 0:00:17.440 --> 0:00:19.599 How you were nasty, cool and nasty. Let's get to 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:20.400 it another one. 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:22.160 I already know it's about to be episode. My boy 0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:22.520 got the. 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:29.880 Tower long getting a little hot liquor, a little. 0:00:29.680 --> 0:00:34.280 Spotsy, and my little you got the all white song. 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:36.320 I know you watched the show. My Man's normally keep 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:38.440 the all black forces with the white lacens. Y'all rocked 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:40.599 them out in Cali. Man with the white lace, All 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:43.120 black with the white lace. Nasty, I'm gonna take care 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:44.120 of you, bro, all. 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:46.159 Black forces and white saying you just. 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:48.080 Had a good game too at the worst name, I 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:51.479 should have sent him then for the Drew, for the Drew. 0:00:51.520 --> 0:00:55.040 That's wow, you got on the perfect outfit. That's one 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:56.080 of my typical outfits. 0:00:56.080 --> 0:01:03.000 Stinking right there. That's the beautiful I got. 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:07.120 You know what them fourteen thirteen thirteen. That's easy, that's like, 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:09.720 that's on the way all the way. We'll get to 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:13.240 Addy after this period for sure. To about right, my 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:14.840 dog young not your young team. 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:17.600 How you are, man, I'm chilling, bro, I'm so excited. 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:19.840 We got an old non draftee in here. You know, 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:21.240 we got draft at the same time. I don't know 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:24.800 how he's still playing, but don't worry about it. I'm 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:27.080 so proud of it though. Man, we go way back. 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:29.400 So I'm geek to have be a part of this 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:30.200 episode for show. 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:31.920 For Shure Man legend in the building, one of the 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:35.399 coaches to touch a basketball professional score, six time All Star, 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:37.839 future Hall of Famer. We got the man to Martin 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:39.800 Rossan in the building. Appreciate you sliding on this big 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:40.959 dog Man, appreciate it. 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:41.560 I ain't gonna lie. 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:44.200 I've been You're my partner, and tell you, like all 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:46.559 the homies be like, man, you gotta go, you gotta 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:47.960 go on the show. You gotta go on the show, 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:50.360 you know. So I'm hyped to be on here. Man 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:53.680 to me, I call this like the hoops drink chance, 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:54.520 you know what I mean. 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:57.560 Always check it out. 0:01:57.560 --> 0:02:00.520 We always be laughing, sending sending everything to the group chat. 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:02.200 So I'm na have to be on it for show. 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:04.960 Sure, man, glad I have you man crazy order story 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:06.320 and might put it in the chat. We got to 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:08.200 start therapy here with the with the with the with 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:09.400 the bag man. 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:23.320 When p Miller founding, when person found he put you 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:32.240 right on the TV show right away. Bro, How was 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:32.760 that though? 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:32.960 Bro? 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:34.720 How did that even come about? 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:35.440 Man? Bro? 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:35.880 It was? 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:40.680 It was the most random moment ever because at the 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:43.720 time I was playing on AU team, so everybody who 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:45.560 with the P Miller Ballers, we was on another A 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:48.079 team before that, and that was like our last year. 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:51.239 I think we had just one like Nationals and was 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:54.639 breaking up sponsorship and everything. So we was we was 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:55.920 all just trying to figure out what we was going 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:57.720 to do next. Then all of a sudden, you know, 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:01.000 we got word like Master p wanted to have an 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:05.160 AU team. You know, He's gonna have tryouts at at 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:08.080 this high school show up. So in my mind I'm thinking, like, 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:10.520 all right, this is just his team. He not actually 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:12.880 gonna be there, you know what I mean. So we 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:17.600 all show up to the high school pee walking. Then 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:21.160 Romeo walk in with him, like all right, we got 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:24.160 practiced three man weave, four man we five man weave, 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:26.600 and we hoop, so we're doing that. So we just 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:29.560 thinking it's gonna be a moment just that. So he 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:31.800 was like, you know, all right, same time next week. 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:34.400 So it became a consistent thing like oh damn, we 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:37.000 about to were about to play for p oh shit, 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:39.960 he coaching too, Like you know, we were about to 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:41.800 rock out and all of a sudden before we start playing. 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:43.920 He always used to invite us to the house. So 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:46.280 we used to go to his house practice in the backyard, 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:48.320 lifting weights at his house. 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:48.640 In the gym. 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:52.800 Just crazy shit that damn nobody, especially for me at 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:55.960 the time, like I'm fourteen, coming from like Compton. Were 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:59.320 going to the house. He got a tennis court, pool, 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:01.880 wait room, got everything you need. Then at the same 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:04.880 time we watching him record make albums at the time, 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:07.280 rome doing the Romeo Show, So it was like it 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:09.720 was a trip at that time, knowing like we about 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:11.680 to play for this team and he about to be 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:14.160 a coach. Was any other top Dogs on your team 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:17.200 with you? Yeah, Brandon was on that team. We had 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:21.360 a we had a kid named Yeah on that Okay, 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:27.000 we had remember baby Shack, he played on our on 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:29.240 our team, so we had a lot of talent. We 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:32.120 had a lot of guys and you know, we we 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:33.360 we just rocked out after that. 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:36.480 That's hard, b I had a That ship was funny 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:41.320 as fun It was a trip bro trusted. We had 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:42.479 our own bus going to. 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:46.160 Games like we was like we was like on some 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:47.920 like A and one type ship. 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:51.240 No fact, were pulling up the whole gym wade like 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:51.880 it was. It was. 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:55.480 It was in the spotlight early, which is. 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:58.159 Crazy because I met him at a B C D camp. 0:04:58.160 --> 0:05:01.640 He probably don't remember. I was just a young star, buddy, 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:05.400 and don't even worry about it. I was just trying 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:07.200 to make my way. I had no scholarship offer, so 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:08.640 I'm trying to do anything I could do to get 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:10.960 a scholarship. Me and him are on the same team 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:14.880 at ABCD, can't. I'm gunning. I'm going to be a senior. 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:18.160 I'm trying to get some offers here. You're younger. I'm 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:21.040 having a moment. I'm playing good, shining, doing my thing. 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:23.560 I get a couple offers after the first day, like well, 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:27.039 I got like forty but whatever, so I'm having a 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:31.080 good day. The next day, he tapped me on the shoulder. 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:35.080 It's master p I'm thinking he about to be like, yeah, 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:37.200 you nice, so you know. I'm like, he like, hey, 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:40.360 my man, that kid right there can play. Give him 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:42.880 a chance, play with him. He tell me a play 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:45.080 to do, like drive to the middle, throw it up. 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:47.800 He gonna go get it. I swear to god I 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:51.200 did that. I threw it up when we dunked it, 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:53.320 I ain't get the ball no more. 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:58.560 Every I swear everything. I love Bro every play for Bro. Hey, 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:02.039 he was killing I'm like, damn, who is this dude? 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:04.560 And they like he played for Pete Miller. I'm like, Damn, 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:06.479 I don't know nothing. I'm like, but they'll be cool 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:11.279 with master P like saying ice cream. 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:15.280 Look, but that's what I knew. I seen him right there. 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:17.599 And then the scene when we get drafted, I'm like, oh, yeah, 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:18.279 it's different. 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:19.960 Did you play the Pete Millers? 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:24.520 Yeah? I played him. You know. It's crazy fight up now. 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:29.159 It was the time I was playing in him so much, right, 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:32.840 And I don't think I ever talked about this. Romeo 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:34.520 was trying to go to high school with me at 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:36.280 Countin High right, we were. 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:40.000 Trying to I've never told this story. Bro. 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:41.039 I'm glad it's here. 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:42.400 So wrong. 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:44.240 Ron was trying to figure out how to go to 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:47.880 school with me at Counton High. So we ended up saying, 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:49.719 like we're going to get the whole team Pete Miller's. 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:52.359 We made them all blue. Everybody had blue p Miller. 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:54.760 So rome was like, you know, really trying to figure 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:56.080 out how you can go to Contain High. 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:57.240 So we meet him with the school. 0:06:57.560 --> 0:06:59.440 They was like, man, he'd just show off the games, 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:02.880 he get the work once a week, do the work 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:06.480 all that. So we end up having like a practice, 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:09.160 like he came to my high school, had a practice. 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:13.040 I'm talking about every gang member outside of the gym. 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:16.000 Everything we go hoop. As soon as we come out 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:18.240 the gym, the principal was like, yeah, he's not gonna 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:20.480 be able to come here. It was like he was 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:22.160 really trying to go to high school with me, you 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:24.360 know what I mean, Like we was really like about 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:26.680 to sponsor this school to wear Pete Miller's and everything, 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:28.560 but it ended up not working out and everything. But 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:30.960 that was a crazy It was a crazy time because 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:33.320 especially at that time, like you're talking about little Romeo 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:35.520 going to Conte Hide that shu don't even sound right? 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:42.560 Yeah too much, Yeah, doing the beach somewhere. She really 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:43.120 liked that though. 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:46.000 Yeah he could hoop, he can hoop for like, he 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:49.280 definitely you know, cal hoop, you know what I mean, 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:51.680 he definitely surprised if it was something you stick with, 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:54.800 you know, you know, it all come down the size 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:56.400 at the end of the day. 0:07:57.080 --> 0:07:59.600 His little brother nice though. Yeah, he don't want. He 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:00.000 didn't want. 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:02.400 Yeah, Mercy, Mercy, he gonna be the one to He 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:04.920 going to Houston next year, but he definitely gonna be 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:05.200 the one. 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:06.239 Yeah. 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:08.320 And what's so crazy is people forget like he made 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:12.080 it to the crazy but he used to hoop. What 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:15.400 it's every day Like he will come in who play 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:18.240 for real? Damn they're about to fight you everything Like 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:22.440 he playing like bully ball, shooting threes like he used 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:23.440 to hoo with us all the time. 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:26.960 That's t bro, that's fire. It's the cold moment that 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:32.160 you got to brace early, bro, like the pick they got, Yeah, 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:34.360 they got to do rags and that's a fire album 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:38.240 cover look like, but that was that was at a 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:40.600 video shoot, bro, that's even harder. 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:46.280 Look, no bull ship, I used to miss school to 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:48.720 go to a video shoots. Whoever had a video if 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:51.960 he had a video rum. I would miss school, be 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:53.480 at the video shoot all day. 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:55.680 Because we heard you. It's just a side bar. We 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:59.120 heard you rap today they ain't play that. 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:07.680 Ship said you definitely got bars, So it might have 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:08.319 started from there. 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:14.160 So for sure, Man, But like crazy basketball origin man 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:15.560 going crazy in high school? 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:20.520 Was it a no brainer you was going to USC Man? Yeah, 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:22.520 because I didn't want to leave home. It's crazy. I 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:24.640 took a visit. I took a couple of visits with 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:31.920 the North Carolina, Florida State cal somewhere else. I took 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:35.040 like unofficials. But when I went to Florida State at 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:37.040 the time, that's when all the hurricanes and ship was 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:39.640 going on. So I'm out there, I'm like, Man, ain't 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:41.120 no way in hell I'm leaving home. 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:42.319 I can't. I can't. 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:44.680 You know what I mean, If this ship happened, I'm terrified. 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:47.720 So once once I've seen that happen, I was like, man, 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:49.959 I'm staying home regardless. Then I started looking at it 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:51.960 on some real ship. I started looking at it like, man, 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:53.920 if I go to the NBA, it's a good chance 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:56.400 I'm not going to play home. So let me get 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:59.280 let me enjoy playing home one last time and ship 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:01.800 I do that and get my ascent to Canada, like 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:04.480 you know what I mean, Like I didn't think I'd 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:06.040 go that far, but you know what I mean. But 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:08.440 I wanted to stay home for the most part, just 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:10.160 for the simple factor, like I wanted to be home 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:11.480 one last time for sure. 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:13.240 I mean, you went to USA. It was crazy. You 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:16.920 almost went to USA. I never the year before, but. 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:19.240 Oj Mayo went and when I went on my visit, 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:22.520 OJ happened to be there. They forgot I was on 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:23.000 the visit. 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:25.600 Yeah, you know how that goes. 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:27.599 It was just like, oh, yeah, you come on, we 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:29.840 get you too. My pop was like, yeah, that ain't 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:32.120 the place for you, but nah, it was fun. I 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:35.600 ain't gonna lie. Keep it a real. It's a beautiful 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:39.600 scener some nice US season. It's a nice campus, man, 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:40.840 they have it set up for you. 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:41.320 And you went. 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:45.680 Yeah, But I wasn't tripping on nothing because I was home, 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:47.760 you know what I mean. Like, I didn't even trip 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:49.560 on whatever it was you could show me, because at 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:50.680 the end of the day, I was home. I was 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:52.920 in my comfort already, so I wasn't even tripping on 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:54.560 what you could show me. I'm looking at it like, 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:57.560 let me do this six seven months and I'm going anyway. 0:10:57.480 --> 0:10:59.320 Okay, so you alread had to project it in your mind. 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:00.320 I was out. I was. 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:05.800 I was going, that's hard, yeah, respectful, like the number 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:06.840 three player in the country. 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:08.040 So yeah, I was. 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:09.240 He was on that list. 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:10.360 Yeah I was. I was. 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:13.199 I was going, what was you battling with in high school? 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:15.480 Because I was a year older, so I'm not even sure. 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:20.440 So our class was crazy because we had Tyreekrek was 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:24.520 was the man, Brandon was the man, Drew Holiday was 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:28.080 a man. So we had a solid class of like 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:31.600 from that wing position of dudes that was dogs, you 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:32.040 know what I mean. 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:34.760 So it's three that's in Cali right there there there. 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:36.320 You know what I mean. So just in our state 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:38.240 a loan like it was, it was, it was. It 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:40.679 was a lot going on just from that competitive standpoint. 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:44.360 So I mean, we had we had plenty other dudes 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:45.360 like Scottie Hopson. 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:50.120 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we had We had a lot 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:53.000 of dudes man that that that had a chance that. 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:55.960 You know, either injuries or whatever it may be. But 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:57.840 at the time high school it was, it was it 0:11:57.880 --> 0:11:59.720 was a dog fight. Yeah, I thought Scotty was going 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:03.480 to the me too, me too. 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:07.160 Oh dangn And for us, we always big up in 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:09.080 the end, especially Naptown hoops because we had a lot 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:10.719 of cuz the time. But like we look at it now, 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:13.440 you talk about them areas, y'all. Y'all had the real 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:17.040 ones that O six, O seven eight class nothing but 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:17.880 all pros. 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:20.319 And yeah, think about the year before it was James Harden. 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:24.840 It was like Russell Russ like we had like some 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:27.280 some some dogs. We had a couple of years where 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:29.600 it was like it was it was you look at it, 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:31.960 It's come on, you can't deny it. Like out of California, 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:34.320 even just southern California at the time, it was crazy. 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:36.960 Did you ever come across them though? Like in high school? 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:39.880 Yeah, against I played against Drew. I've been playing against 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:41.800 Drew ever since I was eleven twelve years old. He 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:44.400 was the first. He was the first person I ever 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:48.840 played with. How I learned the word Amberdextrius, I learned 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:51.360 it from Drew Holliday. Okay, somebody was like man. He 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:54.920 he used both hands like how he played now is 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:56.200 how he played when he when he. 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:56.880 Was eleven years old. 0:12:57.240 --> 0:13:03.280 Dang yill, smart, crafty, defensive, like defensively all over the floor. 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:05.120 He was the same exact way. 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:07.560 He cold the cold. 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:10.000 So it's like all those guys played against him since 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:13.920 we was eleven twelve years old. For sure, man Clay 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:19.440 Clay play was my high school class. Oh a, so 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:21.439 you know we had a we had a we have 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:23.720 some dogs facts for sure. 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:26.720 Digital thing one year in usc How was it playing 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:27.960 in college? I mean, you know what I'm saying. I 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:29.600 know it's a little bit of a different place, especially 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:31.959 from high school and that you how was that playing 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:32.440 in college? 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:34.280 And how was it playing at the crib in college? 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:37.080 I ain't gonna lie. My first two months in college 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:39.400 I struggled because it was like, you know, you go 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:42.520 from being a star, being able to do whatever you want, 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:45.280 however you want, whenever you want to where it's like 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:48.520 now you gotta you gotta learn the structure of a 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:51.800 discipline from another level of you know, coach telling you to, 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:54.559 you know, run the offense for twenty five seconds before 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:56.760 somebody shoot, you know what I mean. Like, So it 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:58.840 was a struggle in my first two months. But after that, 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:01.320 once I got it and started clicking. For me, it 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:03.920 was it was. It was simple, it was easy, start killing. 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:07.120 It was cool, just out of family there, you know, ship, 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:10.000 I will, I will playing a game, and twenty minutes 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:11.360 after the game, I'm right back in. 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:13.320 Compting, like you know what I mean, like it was, 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:14.840 it was, it was that every day for me. 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:21.880 And you play with my dog, My dog man really 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:24.840 like he helped me through that whole even before we 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:27.360 play the game. I remember came to my dorm room 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:30.200 and just you know, embraced me. You know what I mean, 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:32.160 that's that's that's that's the o. 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:35.040 G Man, real one dog, tell you a real one 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:36.920 for sure. Facts he told us you it was a dog. 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:38.880 He was like, Man, I had oj the year before 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:42.040 then I had the mark came. He was like, man, 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:45.280 I just played with some dogs. Well and I was like, yeah, 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:46.040 for sure you. 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:49.720 Did, my dog man. That's a good dude, man, for sure. Man. 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:51.840 I got to ask you a question of how true 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:52.240 this is? 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:54.360 You play the part in the US getting their own 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:57.280 pe Kobe's yes, m yes. 0:14:57.560 --> 0:15:00.400 And it more so came from the relations ship I 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:02.960 had with Cold I think you know when I was 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:05.280 like fifteen sixteen, You remember when they used to have 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:09.520 like Steve Nash camp YEP for Kobe Camp, Paul Periods Camp. Yeah, Mari, 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:11.920 I think it was a Mari Mark camp. 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:12.560 Yeah. 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:15.680 So it just started from, you know, my relationship with Cob. 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:18.520 I think it's a picture that that started to go around. 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:20.400 I was a cold camp. Cob was talking to me. 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:22.680 I was sitting like front row. Clay was in the picture. 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:26.120 Were like fifteen, sixteen years old, and you know, ever 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:28.600 since then, like me and Cob had just like a 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:32.280 bond one me being from LA and the connection kind 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:35.240 of just grew from there. Me wearing the shoes and 0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:39.000 you know, I think when the Kobe once came out, 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:42.880 he gave me a pair and I started just rocking 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:45.400 them from there, like Kobe twos. Then you can go 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:47.480 back to, you know, google me in high school my 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:50.200 senior year I had I was the first ones with with. 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:54.880 The Nike. I d Kobe's damn every colorway. 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:57.240 It was to a point like all through high school, 0:15:57.240 --> 0:15:59.560 people tell you like I had so many Kobe's. After 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:01.560 every game I was throw him in the crowd. Uh 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:04.560 he clowned you know, so it was like it was 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:09.200 you out of pocket high school. That's fire hard, Like 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:12.400 you know this was, so it was like, you know, 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:14.160 it started from there. Then you know when got the 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:16.480 s C at the time, I think the Kobe Fords 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:18.479 was it was Kobe Fords. 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:20.760 Was out, and you know it just ran away with 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:21.240 it from here. 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:24.400 But you're gonna tie your shoes though, never have like 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:27.320 how you That's why I know he is trench baby. Listen, 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:32.440 he hooped without his shoes tied brow just like this, 0:16:33.160 --> 0:16:33.760 That's what I'm talking. 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:41.960 But but the thing, you know why though, what like 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:44.320 I played a new shoe every game, so you know 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:46.720 how like most guys gotta break their shoe and everything, 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:49.320 so I like the tight fit. So I gotta put 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:52.480 on a new shoe every game. So I don't I 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:55.080 don't need the time. And it all started and forget. 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:58.160 I got some Jordan Nines when I was like eleven 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:00.440 years old. I got I have had some Jordan I 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:04.159 never told this story. Either have some Jordan Nyn's and 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:06.800 I got them for like Christmas or some shit. So 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:11.679 I wanted to wear them in a game. So my 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:14.440 mom dad was like, man, these your school shoes. This 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:16.440 for school. I'm like, no, I want to look clean 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:18.480 in the game. So it's like all right, you messing 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:20.600 on messing them up, that's on you. So I never 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:24.120 wanted to tie my shoe to put a crease in them. Never, 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:26.280 So I was like, man, I'm just playing these motherfuckers 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:28.760 like I'm just walking around. So it started from that 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:30.720 moment of me never tying my shoe. I was like 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:32.960 eleven years old. I didn't want to fucking my Jordan Yns. 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:37.200 You just hoop and the motherfucker giving you thirty five 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:39.240 forty and he ain't tied shit. 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:41.280 With elite footwork. That's the crazy. 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:43.960 Are the best fits of basketball history and your shoes 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:45.200 ain't tied, and that's crazy. 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:48.200 It's so crazy because it's been so many games. I 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:49.760 would be in a corner in front of the visit 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:53.000 visitor bench. You will, you will hear niggas say this, 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:56.320 niggas shoes ain't tied, like you wouldn't hear it, Like 0:17:56.320 --> 0:18:00.920 like it's niggas, I said here, disrespectful all the time. 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:04.040 Bro, I'm about to I'll never forget San Antonio. You 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:06.399 was in San Antonio. This is when I first noticed it. 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:08.160 Like you've probably been, like you said, you've been doing 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:10.320 it forever. But I first noticed it because I was like, 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:12.439 I'm gonna ask Mark for his jersey. I was like 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:14.840 super proud for I'm ask some nigga for the jersey. 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:17.639 But I was like, man, he oh, nah, I'm a 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:20.200 fan asked for his jersey and I look down. 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:22.800 So I'm gonna ask for some kobees too, I said. 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:24.000 Nigga ain't got shoes up. 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:27.760 I said, man, he's not about to play to night. 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:32.160 This nigga proceeds to get like thirty five. I never 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:33.720 laced this shop, I said, man. 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:36.760 I told the people on the bell, like wig, you know, 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:38.840 he just gave you thirty five. 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:43.040 He ain't tied his shoes any durable though you always play. 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:46.600 You tell your shoes like you do construction, and still 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:48.240 they work for corner. 0:18:51.400 --> 0:18:51.879 Look at me. 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:54.880 I tied my shoes all the way up. What ship 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:56.120 was tied in the brill. 0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:04.120 Was flopping down on the ground tide certainly right now, 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:07.399 that's crazy. 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:10.520 I was doing this ship all right. 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:12.560 Man. 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:14.840 That's the trick. Don't like your shoes. Like your shoes, man, 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:16.640 I don't. It ain't for everybody. 0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:18.439 And I'll be seeing some niggas hurt their ankle and 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:21.000 they tied how they show up all tight like I. 0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:26.080 Never ye, Nigga's lame. Don't worry, bro, I can't relate. 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:28.639 But that's crazy. Like you said, man, you kill usc 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:30.639 Did you get drafted and then you go to Canada 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:32.080 Like you didn't want to go to Floida because that 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:32.480 was too far. 0:19:32.720 --> 0:19:34.000 You go to a whole other country. 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:38.159 Yeah. I think I needed it though, because I was 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:42.600 so stuck on being home and scared to leave home 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:45.159 that I needed that to kind of get me in 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:47.440 an element of you know, a lot of my ways 0:19:48.000 --> 0:19:50.760 I follow now was from me going to Canada my 0:19:50.800 --> 0:19:54.120 first year of being by myself, nobody able to come, 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:56.760 none of my cousins, nobody had a passport, nobody even 0:19:56.800 --> 0:19:59.840 knew who the passport was. Like, I didn't get a passport, 0:19:59.880 --> 0:20:03.200 and so two days before I got drafted, like so 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:05.720 let alone my family got one. So I'm up there 0:20:05.800 --> 0:20:07.800 just by myself, and all I could do was just 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:09.520 focus on who you know what I mean, Like I 0:20:09.520 --> 0:20:11.880 didn't have no distractions. I didn't have to worry about 0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:14.399 people in and out. So it was it was. It 0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:16.960 was beneficial for me, it was. And I had great 0:20:17.080 --> 0:20:18.560 vets too at the time, you know what I mean, 0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:20.800 Like Jared Jack helped me out a lot. 0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:23.320 That was my that was my that was my roll. 0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:26.399 Dog like he was the first person introduced me to 0:20:26.480 --> 0:20:30.520 a lot of ways on how to dress wintertime, with 0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:32.240 to eat you know what I mean, all that, you know, 0:20:32.440 --> 0:20:34.479 So it gave me a chance just to lock in. 0:20:34.600 --> 0:20:37.760 So I was I was definitely grateful for that because 0:20:38.200 --> 0:20:40.159 you know, if I would anywhere else, who knows what 0:20:40.240 --> 0:20:40.879 would have happened. 0:20:41.240 --> 0:20:43.439 Facts, damn, I didn't even think about that. Yeah, your 0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:45.080 first winter, boy, it was different. 0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:47.919 Oh no, it was different because winter hit. I just 0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:51.959 remember getting off the plane one time, it's snowing. I 0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:54.520 got chucks on the park, you know what I mean. 0:20:54.680 --> 0:20:56.080 By the time I get in the car, my whole 0:20:56.080 --> 0:20:58.320 angle fro, you know what I mean. Like I'm like, 0:20:58.520 --> 0:21:01.080 I didn't know what to wear, how to wear win awear, 0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:04.639 you know what I mean. Like, so everything was like 0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:07.000 a new learning experience for me that I needed. 0:21:06.760 --> 0:21:10.119 You know what, I meant to play with one of 0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:12.240 the gods, Cal Lorry. 0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:16.400 Yeah, I was a couple of years later. Yeah that's Cal. 0:21:16.560 --> 0:21:19.000 Like I talked to Cal every fucking day all day. 0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:23.160 He called me early Cal. When Kyle came to Toronto, 0:21:23.359 --> 0:21:25.439 it was interesting because I didn't. I didn't have a 0:21:25.480 --> 0:21:28.159 relationship with him at all. Like we played for a 0:21:28.200 --> 0:21:31.160 whole year together and I never even said a word 0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:39.120 to him. Damn we didn't talk. It was like literally 0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:41.800 no word. We're talking about coming practice. It wasn't no 0:21:42.000 --> 0:21:44.840 like dap up. But none of that ship like like 0:21:45.080 --> 0:21:47.280 it wasn't it wasn't nothing like he he He was 0:21:47.320 --> 0:21:50.720 a type that I was still stuck in the mindset 0:21:50.720 --> 0:21:53.040 of having like a complementality, like, man. 0:21:53.080 --> 0:21:55.800 Who is this nigga? Like what do he? You know? 0:21:56.160 --> 0:21:57.400 He Philly, you know what I mean? 0:21:57.440 --> 0:22:00.719 He coming in with his aggressive manner, doing whatever it 0:22:00.800 --> 0:22:02.960 is he doing, getting on like man. 0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:05.680 Who he too good for niggas? Like I ain't talking 0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:06.159 to him. 0:22:06.200 --> 0:22:08.679 But one thing like I noticed over time was like 0:22:09.160 --> 0:22:11.480 he really put into work and cared about you know, 0:22:11.560 --> 0:22:13.000 the craft, you know what I mean. It was like 0:22:13.080 --> 0:22:15.119 no no funny games when it it was all it 0:22:15.200 --> 0:22:18.080 was all strictly business. And like that next year, I 0:22:18.119 --> 0:22:20.520 respected that more than anything that it made me want 0:22:20.520 --> 0:22:23.160 to be like closer to him, you know what I mean, 0:22:23.200 --> 0:22:25.040 because he a ride and die for you on that court. 0:22:26.280 --> 0:22:28.640 You know that's how that's how the respect came and 0:22:28.680 --> 0:22:32.000 ship next day. Yeah, like next thing, you know, like 0:22:32.000 --> 0:22:34.200 like that that became our roll though, like you know 0:22:34.240 --> 0:22:36.320 what I mean to where like we we we had 0:22:36.320 --> 0:22:38.800 shipped to a t in the game to where like 0:22:39.480 --> 0:22:42.160 he and no, like I come out beginning the game, 0:22:42.200 --> 0:22:44.000 I'm like, yo, I'm going for a first quarter. 0:22:44.160 --> 0:22:46.399 I'm getting to it. It's I bet I get the 0:22:46.440 --> 0:22:47.000 second half. 0:22:47.040 --> 0:22:49.040 Like we played off each other so much like that 0:22:49.160 --> 0:22:52.119 because we was you know, from the friendship and understanding, 0:22:52.160 --> 0:22:53.800 like we just wanted to win that bad. 0:22:54.000 --> 0:22:56.880 And what's so crazy is like y'all historically like built 0:22:56.920 --> 0:22:59.240 a franchise up there. You know, you had Vincent teammate 0:22:59.280 --> 0:23:01.240 up there, but which'll did and the Raptors Jersey is 0:23:01.320 --> 0:23:02.840 up there starting the test of time. 0:23:02.920 --> 0:23:05.560 Yeah for sure, And that just one thing I definitely like, 0:23:05.960 --> 0:23:08.760 you know, hold my hat too, because it's like you know, 0:23:08.800 --> 0:23:11.040 we we you know when I first got there and 0:23:11.040 --> 0:23:13.240 nobody gave a shit about it about it, you know 0:23:13.240 --> 0:23:15.040 what I mean. People would come to Toronto knowing they 0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:17.840 was getting to win, like that was automatic. I like 0:23:17.880 --> 0:23:20.760 to have a time every time, like every time, like 0:23:20.800 --> 0:23:23.040 it was a thing like bro like it was it was, 0:23:23.240 --> 0:23:25.040 it was it was a thing. Like I remember, we 0:23:25.119 --> 0:23:27.840 used to play either Saturday or Sundays. We used to 0:23:27.880 --> 0:23:30.600 have early games on the weekend, like a twelve o'clock 0:23:30.640 --> 0:23:33.320 twelve thirty game, and we were so bad. We used 0:23:33.320 --> 0:23:35.600 to be like, man, we could get whoever we playing 0:23:35.640 --> 0:23:38.399 because we know they without the night before. Damn, you 0:23:38.400 --> 0:23:40.479 know what I mean. That's how bad. That's where we 0:23:40.560 --> 0:23:42.760 had to start from and fight a way out of that. 0:23:42.920 --> 0:23:46.159 So you know, I definitely probably myself on just you know, 0:23:46.280 --> 0:23:48.840 changing and shifting the culture to have it like a 0:23:48.920 --> 0:23:50.600 you know, a winning mentality there for sure. 0:23:50.720 --> 0:23:52.879 Yeah, yeah, I start smacking shit boy. 0:23:52.960 --> 0:23:55.639 Yeah, I remember that group. I used to want to 0:23:55.640 --> 0:23:57.600 be on that. Yea, I've seen so bad. It was 0:23:57.680 --> 0:23:59.360 you a mirror. 0:24:01.040 --> 0:24:01.440 Uh. 0:24:01.520 --> 0:24:04.399 Y'all had like this cool ass team, like y'all was 0:24:04.440 --> 0:24:07.320 fresh as fuck. Y'all always remember one game y'all had 0:24:07.320 --> 0:24:08.359 on Jordan Six's. 0:24:08.680 --> 0:24:10.639 I'm like, shit, I won't play on this team. 0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:13.800 They look like they young. We smacked y'all, we get 0:24:13.840 --> 0:24:15.360 the hell out of them. But I was like, they 0:24:15.359 --> 0:24:19.200 look cool, like they look like they have a good time. 0:24:19.320 --> 0:24:19.560 Man. 0:24:19.680 --> 0:24:21.440 I was like, damn, I want to play on this team. 0:24:21.640 --> 0:24:23.760 And then to see y'all go from nat to all 0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:25.840 sudden like, oh, we about to go Toronto. We gotta 0:24:25.840 --> 0:24:28.320 play this nigga, Kyle are about to be taking charges. 0:24:28.800 --> 0:24:31.520 We got to send the double for debo. Bro. You know, 0:24:31.640 --> 0:24:33.680 he get to this mill round just about to get crazy. 0:24:34.359 --> 0:24:36.359 And so to see y'all take it from there to 0:24:36.480 --> 0:24:38.080 like I'm having fun looking at y'all like, y'all you 0:24:38.119 --> 0:24:38.600 had fun. 0:24:38.760 --> 0:24:41.800 Yeah, they real contenders. It's crazy. 0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:44.359 Sure what year did the city really get lit? 0:24:44.400 --> 0:24:44.640 Though? 0:24:44.800 --> 0:24:47.119 So we're you know, Drake and everybody pulling up to 0:24:47.160 --> 0:24:47.600 the game. 0:24:48.240 --> 0:24:52.080 Drake, Drake will always come, but he was you got 0:24:52.080 --> 0:24:54.200 to think about early on. That's when he just started 0:24:54.280 --> 0:24:56.040 to blow up too, you know what I mean. So 0:24:56.520 --> 0:24:58.480 I think when it really started taking off was that 0:24:58.560 --> 0:25:01.080 first year we went to the place we played, Brooklyn. 0:25:02.240 --> 0:25:07.639 I think that was like twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen. You know, 0:25:07.680 --> 0:25:10.480 we we end up started having like the Jurassic Park outside. 0:25:10.640 --> 0:25:14.359 That was hard, all the fans standing outside. We just started, like, 0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:18.400 you know, they started like this whole rebranding outside ind 0:25:18.560 --> 0:25:20.560 and we just took care of everything on the floor. 0:25:22.480 --> 0:25:24.960 So I want to say around thirteen fourteen when it 0:25:25.040 --> 0:25:26.200 really really took off. 0:25:26.119 --> 0:25:27.919 And you could tell, like they had that one like 0:25:27.960 --> 0:25:30.000 the logo on the floor that was like three D. Yeah, yeah, 0:25:30.000 --> 0:25:33.360 I had the Camo jerseys and shit, ye really. 0:25:33.160 --> 0:25:35.680 They really started to change and rebrand everything, you know 0:25:35.720 --> 0:25:38.520 what I mean, team wise and brand wise, and you know, 0:25:38.560 --> 0:25:40.159 we kind of took off with it. And you know, 0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:44.000 obviously like when when Drake got behind it, and you know, 0:25:44.040 --> 0:25:46.600 we everything kind of just fell in line, honestly. You 0:25:46.600 --> 0:25:48.800 know with the winning, you know, winning always saw saw 0:25:48.840 --> 0:25:51.119 of everything. But you know, we I think we just 0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:53.640 started to gain anybody respect because at that time when 0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:56.200 we played Brooklyn in playoffs, that's when they had Joe Johnson, 0:25:56.760 --> 0:26:01.879 Paul KG, Darren Williams, like they had a squad. We 0:26:02.200 --> 0:26:04.440 took them to seven games. That was my first playoff 0:26:04.480 --> 0:26:06.720 series and most of the team, like we were young. 0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:09.400 So to take them to seven that lose by ship 0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:12.040 at one point, you know, we that gave that gave 0:26:12.119 --> 0:26:13.440 us a swagger we needed. 0:26:15.880 --> 0:26:16.240 Years. 0:26:17.080 --> 0:26:19.280 They was I ain't gonna lie. Was tough to play 0:26:19.320 --> 0:26:22.320 bro y'all was y'all was cold, like man. 0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:25.320 It was was so crazy because that next year that's 0:26:25.359 --> 0:26:29.600 when them niggas was nice. I think we were we 0:26:29.600 --> 0:26:31.840 were the only ones beating y'all. Y'all would beat us. 0:26:32.440 --> 0:26:35.080 I remember getting to the playoffs. I remember because that 0:26:35.160 --> 0:26:37.920 next year, I'll never forget them. Niggas was nice and 0:26:38.000 --> 0:26:41.840 we all we I think we would beat them, Lisa 0:26:42.680 --> 0:26:45.159 three out of four times. So I remember going to 0:26:45.200 --> 0:26:48.800 the playoffs. We played the Wizards, and we was like, 0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:52.640 we're gonna beat the Wizards. We want to play Atlanta 0:26:53.160 --> 0:26:55.960 because we match up well with them, beat them, blah 0:26:55.960 --> 0:26:57.959 blah blah. But we end up getting swept by the Wizards. 0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:01.520 That's what y'alla. But yeah, we was like them niggas 0:27:01.560 --> 0:27:03.479 was nice, but we knew we could beat them. Like 0:27:03.520 --> 0:27:06.280 that's that was our mindset. Before we played the playoff game. 0:27:06.320 --> 0:27:08.160 We was like, all right, we got the Wizards first, 0:27:08.200 --> 0:27:10.800 lets line up so we could play Atlanta second round. 0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:11.960 We get into the conference final. 0:27:12.280 --> 0:27:15.080 I remember I had made a defense for y'all. I 0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:18.520 was like, we're gonna trap him on everything we gonna make. 0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:20.600 We knew Kyle can shoot, we knew Cay can score, 0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:22.880 but we was like, t ross the rest of them, 0:27:23.000 --> 0:27:26.320 they gonna have to fucking hoop. But we already knew 0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:28.080 we was gonna beat whoever we was playing the first round, 0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:30.639 don't even know who we played. We played Brooklyn and 0:27:30.760 --> 0:27:34.680 we swept them, and we like, we're gonna play Toronto. 0:27:34.960 --> 0:27:37.680 We I didn't think John was gonna beat them. Listen, 0:27:37.760 --> 0:27:41.679 I didn't either. We got swept. We got crazy, bro, 0:27:41.840 --> 0:27:43.320 we got ours beat. 0:27:43.760 --> 0:27:44.640 That is crazy. 0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:45.400 I didn't. 0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:47.719 We marked Toronto on that game. We was like, we're 0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:48.520 gonna play Toronto. 0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:50.320 We did. We did the same ship. 0:27:50.440 --> 0:27:52.680 Yeah, but we had The thing that was fucked up 0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:55.320 is that we knew if we played in Toronto, like 0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:58.840 I knew, like we played in Toronto, they might get 0:27:58.920 --> 0:28:01.919 us one of them games, because Toronto was tough to 0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:04.000 play at that time. Like and the way I was, 0:28:04.119 --> 0:28:09.200 my life was set up times. Toronto was one of 0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:12.000 my favorite cities. That was number two at the Miami. 0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:14.000 So I was like, I know, I ain't gonna be 0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:15.960 ship one of them guys. But then this might become 0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:17.560 Dinnis might play that game. 0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:18.520 You might come to play. 0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:22.119 But but then when they got swept with D C 0:28:22.359 --> 0:28:24.960 wasn't my ship. I mean DC was cool, but it 0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:27.600 was I can focus in DC a little bit. I 0:28:27.640 --> 0:28:29.320 couldn't focus in Toronto games. 0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:29.960 Yeah. 0:28:30.840 --> 0:28:34.439 Yeah, that was one of my weaker weaker cities. 0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:35.200 Yeah, for sure. 0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:37.400 It was so crazy as both y'all had popping teams 0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:39.080 at the time. But the problem was there was this 0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:42.200 person in the East, hard person to get around at 0:28:42.200 --> 0:28:42.560 that time. 0:28:42.760 --> 0:28:45.440 That yeah, Bro, I mean, I mean, I know J 0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:47.720 T said it plenty of times. I said it plenty 0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:50.600 of times, but yeah, that motherfucker was impossible to me. 0:28:50.960 --> 0:28:53.040 That's just what it was like, you know what I mean, 0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:57.280 Like it just it just you know ship it was. 0:28:57.320 --> 0:28:58.760 It was no other way around it. 0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:00.800 You don't think y'all could have had more peace and 0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:01.920 could have gotta done. 0:29:01.840 --> 0:29:02.760 Bro, No, you can do it. 0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:07.000 I'm be honest. I'm being honest. Like, no, Bro, Bro 0:29:07.240 --> 0:29:09.920 was just like at that time, like it's unbelievable. I 0:29:10.000 --> 0:29:13.800 always I have arguments with people because it's like they 0:29:13.840 --> 0:29:15.840 asked me what bron was the best, and it's like, 0:29:16.240 --> 0:29:19.760 my that Miami bron in that second Cleveland bron Y. 0:29:20.640 --> 0:29:23.240 That's my first time when he first went back to Cleveland, 0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:24.760 that nigga was Bro. 0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:28.120 It was it was bro. It was he controlled everything 0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:31.280 from top to bottom. Man, Like it was when you 0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:34.640 stepped on that floor, it was like it was it 0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:35.120 was tough. 0:29:35.160 --> 0:29:38.200 Bro. You gotta he wanted the Greats for a reason. 0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:40.960 You know what. I Listen, man, I've never won a 0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:42.080 playoff game against them. 0:29:42.160 --> 0:29:42.520 We know. 0:29:42.760 --> 0:29:45.040 I've been in fourth series with this man. I got 0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:46.320 swept four times. 0:29:47.320 --> 0:29:47.959 It's crazy. 0:29:48.000 --> 0:29:49.800 I got a couple wins. 0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:53.880 One time we was up thirty. I swear always up third. 0:29:53.920 --> 0:29:55.520 That's played for the Pacers, the only way I played 0:29:55.520 --> 0:29:58.480 for the player. We up thirty. Game three, I'm like, 0:29:58.720 --> 0:30:00.280 I finally beat this dude. 0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:00.480 Bro. 0:30:00.960 --> 0:30:04.760 He walking in half. Tom said, we're good, We're good, Yard. 0:30:04.800 --> 0:30:08.600 I keep their head up. They were down eight in 0:30:08.680 --> 0:30:10.400 the third quarter. I looked at them. 0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:11.240 Myself, it's. 0:30:12.840 --> 0:30:16.480 Gonna beat us Spring. I'm doing everything about power. Look, Paul, 0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:19.120 shoot the ball man, take us home. 0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:21.000 I just want one win. I knew he wasn't gonna 0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:22.200 beat him, but damn, I just want. 0:30:22.080 --> 0:30:25.520 To Speaking about Lebron being tough, who's one of your 0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:27.680 tough matchups one on one. 0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:32.120 Outside of you, of course, outside of Bron, Like just 0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:37.760 one on one h ooh he had that two yeah 0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:39.240 kill bro. 0:30:42.440 --> 0:30:44.280 D Wade. M hmm. 0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:46.840 But I think somebody that was like, really really tough 0:30:46.920 --> 0:30:49.720 that I like, I couldn't like like I had to 0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:52.760 go head to head with was was Joe, Joe Johnson, 0:30:53.720 --> 0:30:56.960 Daniel Johnson. Like I remember, my first Playoff series was 0:30:57.080 --> 0:31:01.640 Verse Joe, and I got like every bit of io Joe, 0:31:02.880 --> 0:31:03.720 especially at the time. 0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:05.080 I'm young, and you know, ship. 0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:08.080 Part of the part of the way I play now 0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:11.920 is because of Joe, of how how slow he played 0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:14.080 and he was in his body getting to the buck 0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:16.040 getting to a spot, getting to the bucket, you know 0:31:16.040 --> 0:31:16.200 what I. 0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:18.480 Mean, Like, damn, I'll see that now. Yeah, you feel 0:31:18.520 --> 0:31:20.320 me like a lot of a lot of like a 0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:21.080 lot of that ship. 0:31:21.440 --> 0:31:23.600 How I play now I get from fucking Joe, all 0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:28.320 that methodic driven getting to a spot, like bodying all that. 0:31:28.440 --> 0:31:30.520 I got that ship from Joe because I never forget 0:31:30.600 --> 0:31:33.840 my first Playoff game. I went home that it was 0:31:33.880 --> 0:31:36.840 an early game. I went home that that evening and 0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:39.000 I was I was in pain. It felt like I 0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:42.400 got jumped by ten niggas, just like banging with them 0:31:42.440 --> 0:31:44.320 the whole game, you know what I mean, Because that's 0:31:44.360 --> 0:31:45.320 how physical he was. 0:31:45.360 --> 0:31:48.720 And just getting to a spot. So Joe was always tough, 0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:51.040 Like Joe, Joe definitely was tough for me. 0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:54.720 Did you always have that mini in your game? Was 0:31:54.760 --> 0:31:57.160 that always your go to the MIDI because you didn't 0:31:57.200 --> 0:31:59.760 be the best mini to me? Six rip Himmelson. 0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:00.920 You know my my. 0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:07.280 Rookie year, Alex Alex English was my one of the 0:32:07.280 --> 0:32:14.600 assistant coaches. People who don't know those jerseys. So this 0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:18.160 a little like just a just just a little like 0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:22.240 you know, fun fact like people don't know. I used 0:32:22.280 --> 0:32:26.560 to always like sit and listen to Alex talk, and 0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:30.520 you know, you look him up. He was top fifty 0:32:30.600 --> 0:32:34.120 greatest of all time. And he used to show me 0:32:34.880 --> 0:32:38.000 how he used to score at the elbow all the 0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:41.680 time by just one dribble pull up, shooting over mother, 0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:44.280 one dribble right, one dribble left, whatever it may be, 0:32:44.680 --> 0:32:47.720 I'm shooting over these like And I was so amazed 0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:49.960 by how simple he kept the game and was able 0:32:50.080 --> 0:32:53.280 just to get buckets. And that always stuck with me. 0:32:53.320 --> 0:32:55.320 And he was just always once you master this and 0:32:55.400 --> 0:32:58.080 get great at these positions on the floor where no 0:32:58.200 --> 0:33:00.920 matter what shot you shoot, knowing that nobody could block it, 0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:04.520 you're gonna become unstoppable. And that ship always stuck with me, 0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:07.280 and I always paid attention to that, like, man, whatever 0:33:07.320 --> 0:33:08.960 I do, I gotta make sure I get I gotta 0:33:09.000 --> 0:33:12.640 get this anything within a three. I gotta get that 0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:14.480 ship together. And that's how I looked at it. 0:33:14.800 --> 0:33:17.479 And that ship is more than that ship is my bucket. 0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:20.120 Every time every time you shoot that ship, bro, I'm like, 0:33:20.200 --> 0:33:23.520 that's good. You started faking everything. He's still gonna hit 0:33:24.400 --> 0:33:27.240 that ship is amazing, Brocause what's so amazing about it? 0:33:27.400 --> 0:33:30.400 They tried to take that shot out the game and 0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:32.920 like for you to still like master that shot like 0:33:33.720 --> 0:33:34.320 it was a year. 0:33:34.560 --> 0:33:37.080 Like it was a year where like they came to 0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:39.600 me and said, you have to shoot more threes, like 0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:42.120 you gotta do this and this, And it was like 0:33:42.760 --> 0:33:45.840 I'm like why, Like I really like it was a 0:33:45.960 --> 0:33:48.720 year when I was a straight dickhead when it came 0:33:48.800 --> 0:33:51.960 to that, I'm like why, Like nobody can stop me 0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:52.640 doing this? 0:33:52.840 --> 0:33:54.520 Why do you want me to stop doing this? You 0:33:54.600 --> 0:33:57.120 know what I mean? Analytics? I hate it. 0:33:57.280 --> 0:33:59.960 Like when when that analytics shit started coming in a game, 0:34:00.160 --> 0:34:02.840 it used to make me so mad because not just 0:34:02.920 --> 0:34:05.880 for myself, even early on in my career, I used 0:34:05.880 --> 0:34:08.040 to look at it like, Yo, what you're telling people 0:34:08.160 --> 0:34:10.960 that what you're telling these youngest that's coming up that 0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:13.239 need to learn the fundamentals of the game. You know 0:34:13.280 --> 0:34:17.120 what I mean, it's inside out, not outside in how 0:34:17.160 --> 0:34:21.399 the game is played, like understand because yes, you feel 0:34:21.440 --> 0:34:25.880 me Like yeah, So it's like it's like that's my 0:34:26.400 --> 0:34:29.279 philosophy to where it's like, yo, it's bigger than just 0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:31.759 me how I view the game, to where it's like 0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:34.960 I want people to understand, like this is the art 0:34:35.000 --> 0:34:37.960 of basketball. This is the art of what the game 0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:41.080 was built on. Like everybody can't be a Steph Curry, 0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:44.200 and that's fine. Steph is Steph for a reason. Everybody 0:34:44.280 --> 0:34:48.359 can't be everybody can't, but everybody can master spots when 0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:51.360 it comes to this game and build off that. Everybody's 0:34:51.360 --> 0:34:53.640 not gonna be shooting thirty thirty five footers every every 0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:55.520 time that you do it the best. 0:34:55.440 --> 0:34:59.680 Though, Bro averaging, Damn, they're a dub over dub all midies. 0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:03.000 That's crazy. Bro, you didn't don't have no three. Bro 0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:05.080 when I played too bad. Let's take a track. 0:35:07.120 --> 0:35:07.360 Let me. 0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:11.600 Freak thump me. 0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:18.880 Bro, don't shoot threes. 0:35:19.440 --> 0:35:22.920 Don't shoot threes and cold though ship is unstoppable. 0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:25.319 I want to talk about Shoo three. I've seen him. 0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:27.520 Want to beat the Paters a couple of years ago 0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:28.799 off of NICs Ass three. 0:35:29.040 --> 0:35:30.840 Oh yeah, but I'm saying he got it now. 0:35:30.960 --> 0:35:34.160 Yeah, But I never wanted to like abuse it, like 0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:37.160 like I seen Jordan's say some Ship a long time ago. 0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:40.160 It's like I never wanted to get comfortable with the 0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:44.479 three because it takes my aggressiveness in the mid range 0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:46.359 and get into the basket away, you know what I mean. 0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:49.239 It's easy to fall a victim, especially with me, like 0:35:49.360 --> 0:35:52.160 I try to be I try to practice perfection when 0:35:52.160 --> 0:35:53.480 I go out there and play in a sense of 0:35:53.640 --> 0:35:57.000 like I'm not gonna shoot bad shots, and I'm like 0:35:58.640 --> 0:36:01.360 I have a goal in my head always shoot above 0:36:01.440 --> 0:36:03.319 fifty percent no matter what, you know what I mean, 0:36:03.560 --> 0:36:06.960 Like I never want to be forty percent shoot Like, 0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:09.920 I really try to master my spot so when when 0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:12.279 in game it becomes it becomes natural to me. 0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:16.279 No, you you can tell that you like love your 0:36:16.400 --> 0:36:19.279 craft though, Like I was the one I ain't gonna lie. 0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:22.040 I played around with my craft. I had a good time. 0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:25.399 Like ship, I'm a hoop. I just loop naturally. That's 0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:28.080 what we do in Indiana. It wouldn't like, hey, go 0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:30.120 to the gym. It's like ship. I just naturally can 0:36:30.200 --> 0:36:33.000 hoop like I could tell like when I I even 0:36:33.040 --> 0:36:35.440 like I watch you on YouTube with Dribble too much. 0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:36.560 I watched that. 0:36:36.719 --> 0:36:41.160 I'm like, yeah, I wish I would have Like I 0:36:41.239 --> 0:36:44.359 ain't trained with nobody. I trained with my niggas trying 0:36:44.360 --> 0:36:48.520 to rebound quick like you know, ain't read the. 0:36:48.560 --> 0:36:55.640 First job you want the first stretch for it. I 0:36:55.960 --> 0:37:03.720 was you get my own rebel down Georgia. 0:37:06.480 --> 0:37:08.799 He's with George Hill in high school. Man, Georgia will 0:37:08.840 --> 0:37:10.360 average thirty yeight he everage fat. 0:37:12.120 --> 0:37:14.279 No let the SiGe for you. That was been like 0:37:14.400 --> 0:37:25.719 this too. This is about the orn. It's still crazy, man. 0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:27.800 But one of my favorite parts about your game is like, 0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:29.960 obviously you go crazy in the league, but to see 0:37:30.000 --> 0:37:31.839 you go back home and play in the drew every 0:37:31.880 --> 0:37:33.960 summer and like really get to it, like y'all really 0:37:34.000 --> 0:37:36.239 be battling that also congrassed by the wait you know 0:37:36.239 --> 0:37:41.160 what I'm saying, But for whole fans, like like we 0:37:41.239 --> 0:37:43.200 love basketball, to see you hoop in the summer, like 0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:45.280 for y'all to really pull up there and really go crazy, 0:37:45.360 --> 0:37:46.319 that ship is fire man. 0:37:46.920 --> 0:37:49.920 You know it's crazy for me, Bro, It's like It's 0:37:49.960 --> 0:37:53.480 a sentimental thing because you know, my dad used to 0:37:54.040 --> 0:37:56.120 take me to Julie when I was like when I 0:37:56.239 --> 0:37:59.279 was young, even before I started playing to where. I 0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:01.279 just remember when day he picked me up. I mean 0:38:01.360 --> 0:38:03.879 we left the house one day and he's like, man, 0:38:04.000 --> 0:38:07.320 bring bring your basketball shit. He took me to Juliet 0:38:07.400 --> 0:38:10.680 I was fourteen, fifteen years old, said go out there 0:38:10.719 --> 0:38:16.080 and play grown ass men. I'm like, what I guess 0:38:16.160 --> 0:38:18.440 my dad told everybody, all the growning don't take it 0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:21.239 easy on me, go out there, give him the work. 0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:23.440 And I had to compete, but it gave me a 0:38:23.560 --> 0:38:25.560 mental edge when I go out there and play with them. 0:38:25.600 --> 0:38:28.719 When I go play people my age, it's like fuck 0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:31.040 that these these motherfuckers can't fuck with me. I'm playing 0:38:31.040 --> 0:38:34.960 against grown men that they kids sitting on the sideline, 0:38:35.000 --> 0:38:37.879 you know what I mean. So it was always something 0:38:37.920 --> 0:38:40.960 that was like made me feel good because it gave 0:38:41.000 --> 0:38:44.000 me like an internal confidence that I could do this. 0:38:44.760 --> 0:38:48.040 Then it's in a hood too, like all the hood 0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:50.560 motherfucker's coming out here and all the old heads and 0:38:50.640 --> 0:38:52.600 they and they respecting you and taking you in. So 0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:56.399 me getting in a position of being somebody that people 0:38:56.520 --> 0:38:59.239 look up to like it's like mandatory for me to 0:38:59.320 --> 0:39:01.600 do it, because it's like, you never know that one 0:39:01.719 --> 0:39:04.040 kid that's sitting in here, I could be his hope, 0:39:04.200 --> 0:39:05.400 just to want to make it out, you know what 0:39:05.440 --> 0:39:08.399 I mean. It's motherfuckers in here who probably never even 0:39:08.480 --> 0:39:10.120 been to the Stables Center, you know what I mean 0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:13.040 being able to see a basketball game. They can come 0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:15.759 out here for free and watch me play like it's 0:39:15.800 --> 0:39:17.400 something I take serious too, you know what I mean. 0:39:17.400 --> 0:39:21.880 I remember, I remember I brought one of my old teammates. 0:39:22.120 --> 0:39:23.839 I think it was Jared Jay. I think I brought 0:39:23.880 --> 0:39:27.160 him playing to Julieu one one time with me years ago. 0:39:27.840 --> 0:39:29.200 In the middle of the game, I think we was 0:39:29.200 --> 0:39:30.640 about to get in I'm about to get a fight 0:39:30.760 --> 0:39:33.239 with somebody and all this. Jack leaned over and said, 0:39:33.320 --> 0:39:35.960 why are you taking this ship so serious? And to me, 0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:38.200 it's like, Yo, this ship is serious to me. You know, 0:39:38.840 --> 0:39:41.839 it's like it's like my rep on the line for here, 0:39:42.120 --> 0:39:45.960 Like I don't play around with this so like that's 0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:47.640 why when you see me playing it, like I take 0:39:47.760 --> 0:39:48.399 I take that ship. 0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:54.840 That's that's why I ain't never play I take it. 0:39:55.880 --> 0:39:59.120 It's heavy, like even even out of the day, like 0:39:59.120 --> 0:40:00.000 I'm hooping out of the day. 0:40:00.120 --> 0:40:02.319 It's like, you know, niggas on the other team talking shit, 0:40:02.360 --> 0:40:04.279 and it's like, you know, I don't look at it 0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:06.160 like nigga, you know who the fuck I am? Like, yeah, 0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:08.560 talk your ship, but I'm I'm gonna show you why 0:40:08.600 --> 0:40:11.480 I come here all the time, you know for sure. 0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:13.680 Man, It's crazy because like y'all don't have some moments 0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:15.399 in there, but one I don't think get spoken enough. 0:40:15.520 --> 0:40:17.759 I think it was maybe last year before that, bro, 0:40:17.920 --> 0:40:20.440 you and Brian Yeah on the NBA ad. 0:40:20.560 --> 0:40:20.680 Bro. 0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:23.800 Yeah, we all watched the Kobe We all watched. But 0:40:24.040 --> 0:40:25.920 to see that happen in the progression of the drill 0:40:25.960 --> 0:40:29.120 for y'all had that moment, that's hard. It inspires people outside, 0:40:29.320 --> 0:40:31.320 like everybody looked at like we can't wait to see that. 0:40:31.480 --> 0:40:34.000 Yeah, and that it was crazy, Like even shout out 0:40:34.000 --> 0:40:36.640 to Bron doing that. You know, he definitely a real 0:40:36.680 --> 0:40:38.960 one for that because you know, he hit me like 0:40:39.000 --> 0:40:41.279 it was the middle of the night, probably like it 0:40:41.400 --> 0:40:43.200 was like a week before I had I had played 0:40:43.239 --> 0:40:44.799 in and Brian had hit me. Was like, man, what's 0:40:44.880 --> 0:40:46.680 up when you're playing and Drew again, I'm like next week, 0:40:46.760 --> 0:40:49.400 I'm like fucking come fuck me, like come fuck with me. 0:40:49.920 --> 0:40:51.560 So all right, man, I'm gonna come fuck with you. 0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:54.600 So I'm thinking like he probably forget that, he got busy. 0:40:55.239 --> 0:40:58.600 It was like a night before that. The following week, 0:40:59.200 --> 0:41:01.200 it's like we're time to get blah blah blah. Alright, 0:41:01.239 --> 0:41:02.960 bet I'm pulling up and I think I had tweeted 0:41:04.320 --> 0:41:07.520 like Debo and like the Crown or whatever. Pulled up 0:41:07.600 --> 0:41:10.440 and just to see how like electrified the city was. Bro, 0:41:10.719 --> 0:41:12.759 just to see like little like my thing. I'm big 0:41:12.880 --> 0:41:15.440 on looking in the crowd and seeing like kids reaction, 0:41:16.080 --> 0:41:18.800 you know what I mean, seeing those like like like 0:41:19.880 --> 0:41:22.120 like they've just seen a ghost. Like to me, that's 0:41:22.160 --> 0:41:24.520 the ship that makes it feel like, Yo, this ship 0:41:24.640 --> 0:41:28.160 is always bigger than basketball because these these kids carrying 0:41:28.239 --> 0:41:31.880 this shit like forever, you know what I mean, Like 0:41:31.960 --> 0:41:35.359 they're gonna remember this moment. And for Bro to do that, man, 0:41:35.440 --> 0:41:37.400 that shit was like that shit was amazing, you know 0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:40.719 what I mean, especially like, you know, shit twenty years 0:41:40.800 --> 0:41:43.640 in years, four years, how big is to come out 0:41:43.680 --> 0:41:47.560 there in the in the hood and who and the 0:41:47.680 --> 0:41:51.160 game was cracking too, Like it was like they took 0:41:51.239 --> 0:41:53.120 us down to the wire like they was out there 0:41:53.200 --> 0:41:56.160 talking shit all that. So, man, that shit was a 0:41:57.200 --> 0:42:01.880 probably you know, my second favorite fame favorite mote moment 0:42:02.200 --> 0:42:06.000 outside of when Cole play Cob always gonna be my 0:42:06.120 --> 0:42:07.040 number one whenever. 0:42:07.160 --> 0:42:10.200 But what when Brian did that ship man? That ship 0:42:10.680 --> 0:42:11.680 that was some real ship man. 0:42:11.960 --> 0:42:14.640 Let me ask you this then, because I remember I 0:42:14.760 --> 0:42:17.200 said that I said something out of pocket about Cold, 0:42:19.239 --> 0:42:22.200 because I said what I say. 0:42:22.320 --> 0:42:25.359 James, Remember said James Harden was better. 0:42:27.719 --> 0:42:30.040 I said, James Harden scored a little better than Cold 0:42:30.120 --> 0:42:30.760 was out of pocket. 0:42:32.480 --> 0:42:36.800 No, like James Harden scored that most. I've told somebody 0:42:37.200 --> 0:42:40.960 this multiple times. The run James had, it's crazy. Come on, bro, 0:42:41.280 --> 0:42:45.399 The run James had was fucking like that ain't even 0:42:45.440 --> 0:42:46.319 a video game. 0:42:46.920 --> 0:42:47.520 Was crazy. 0:42:47.800 --> 0:42:50.600 That ship was like some fucking like space jam. Yeah. 0:42:50.840 --> 0:42:54.080 I mean, because like if you didn't watch the game, 0:42:54.880 --> 0:42:56.920 you just knew when you checked the box score it 0:42:57.080 --> 0:42:58.640 was gonna be something fucking crazy. 0:42:59.520 --> 0:43:02.320 Forty forty forty five. 0:43:02.800 --> 0:43:06.759 Fifteen to sist ten rebounds Like that run he had, Bro, 0:43:07.120 --> 0:43:10.360 that ship was fucking incredible, and how he did it. 0:43:10.520 --> 0:43:13.120 The ship looked like it was with no effort. 0:43:13.280 --> 0:43:14.120 That's what I was saying. 0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:17.239 You see what I'm saying, So I got what you 0:43:17.400 --> 0:43:20.160 was coming from from. From from that standpoint, I think 0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:23.440 people react people's people is just so sensitive when it 0:43:23.520 --> 0:43:26.800 comes to like certain people, certain ship. You really just 0:43:26.880 --> 0:43:30.160 sit and think. Bro, that run James had BRO was 0:43:30.239 --> 0:43:33.560 the most incredible ship like we we I ever seen. 0:43:34.880 --> 0:43:36.360 Like it was crazy. 0:43:36.440 --> 0:43:39.520 He would just literally come down court by by by 0:43:40.000 --> 0:43:44.320 three five step three by by by hes he it 0:43:44.400 --> 0:43:47.759 was it was fire like come on like it was incredible. 0:43:47.920 --> 0:43:51.400 And don't forget Nigga was winning fifty games in the West, 0:43:51.760 --> 0:43:54.160 in the West, and that's crazy who he was going against. 0:43:54.160 --> 0:43:54.279 Bro. 0:43:54.360 --> 0:43:56.960 He had to go against that prime warrior situation and 0:43:57.040 --> 0:43:58.440 he was still going crazy. 0:43:58.400 --> 0:44:01.360 Going Bro, that's the only thing I said. But I 0:44:01.440 --> 0:44:04.160 got killed for that. But I think Kobe is phenomenal. 0:44:04.360 --> 0:44:06.400 Like it's nothing like I know to love you and 0:44:06.480 --> 0:44:09.359 respect you for coch but I just at that moment, 0:44:09.400 --> 0:44:11.719 I'm like, what I had to play against James Bro 0:44:11.880 --> 0:44:14.320 that but that that ship was different. 0:44:14.440 --> 0:44:15.719 Yeah, Bro, that's the thing. 0:44:15.960 --> 0:44:19.560 Like it just like listen, you said, Kobe is my 0:44:19.719 --> 0:44:23.399 goat all that everything, but it's like it's real, is real? 0:44:23.520 --> 0:44:26.880 The ship James was doing. I don't think we ever 0:44:26.960 --> 0:44:28.680 see that. All you want, we. 0:44:30.640 --> 0:44:32.879 They try to they try to erase it with with Luca. 0:44:33.040 --> 0:44:35.480 Obviously we know Luca, he liked it. But I'm like, nah, bro, 0:44:35.600 --> 0:44:38.080 James had to do that against teams in the West 0:44:38.120 --> 0:44:38.879 one it was I mean. 0:44:38.800 --> 0:44:41.200 Them teams in the Rockets weren't that great. It was 0:44:41.239 --> 0:44:43.200 a lot of James, Harden and everybody else just kind 0:44:43.200 --> 0:44:46.640 of saying the corners of these series that man was on. 0:44:48.080 --> 0:44:50.480 When I see when I seen somebody reguards to him 0:44:50.680 --> 0:44:52.120 and stand behind him. 0:44:52.160 --> 0:44:55.879 Stand behind gas, behind their back, I said, I don't 0:44:55.920 --> 0:44:57.359 know what the is going on right here? 0:44:58.080 --> 0:44:59.239 This is bad basketball. 0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:02.320 But he that special where you can't even't know what 0:45:02.440 --> 0:45:04.560 to do. Yeah, like you gotta go. I don't. I'm 0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:08.840 trying something totally different. I'm just staying behind you. That's crazy. 0:45:09.120 --> 0:45:11.240 Speaking on COVID, did you pull some of your feetwork 0:45:11.400 --> 0:45:11.799 from him? 0:45:12.760 --> 0:45:15.480 Yeah, I definitely got a lot of that came through 0:45:15.719 --> 0:45:19.840 through conversations with him of just breaking down like he 0:45:19.960 --> 0:45:21.880 was a big soccer fan, so he used to always, 0:45:22.480 --> 0:45:26.440 you know, incorporate how soccer players move, how to use 0:45:26.480 --> 0:45:31.000 their footwork to get leverage, quickness, and he always used 0:45:31.040 --> 0:45:33.560 to tell me to watch you know, certain players like 0:45:33.719 --> 0:45:36.440 you know, I came obviously the way he moved, but 0:45:36.680 --> 0:45:41.560 also like the smaller guards, like like a fucking like 0:45:41.719 --> 0:45:44.520 Andre Miller for example, you know what I mean, legend 0:45:44.880 --> 0:45:48.160 not the fastest, not can't jump the highest then that, 0:45:48.360 --> 0:45:51.440 but he knew how to maneuver in small places to 0:45:51.560 --> 0:45:53.440 be able to get a shot off or get to 0:45:53.520 --> 0:45:54.440 the bucket and everything. 0:45:54.560 --> 0:45:56.200 So I used to I used to start. 0:45:56.280 --> 0:45:59.520 I started paying attention to like a lot of of 0:45:59.640 --> 0:46:02.320 the D and them players in a sense that you know, 0:46:02.400 --> 0:46:05.440 probably don't have the big notoriety as everybody else, you 0:46:05.480 --> 0:46:07.920 know what I mean. And took a lot of stuff 0:46:07.960 --> 0:46:10.600 from him. Another person who helped me with my fullwork 0:46:10.960 --> 0:46:13.640 shit was like Sam could sell you know what I mean. 0:46:13.719 --> 0:46:16.879 When I was fifteen, like used to be around Sam, 0:46:16.920 --> 0:46:19.560 and Sam always used to preach to me about certain 0:46:20.080 --> 0:46:22.480 ways how to shoot the turn around, how to get 0:46:22.480 --> 0:46:24.680 your feet leverage a certain type of way, you know 0:46:24.680 --> 0:46:26.680 what I mean. Learn from him, and learn from fucking 0:46:26.960 --> 0:46:29.360 Catino Mowgli how to get your shots, you know what 0:46:29.400 --> 0:46:33.399 I mean. It's certain players that I took so much from, 0:46:33.920 --> 0:46:36.800 like incorporated. But Cole wasn't one to put the like 0:46:37.760 --> 0:46:41.840 the the notion in it too. You know you master this, 0:46:42.800 --> 0:46:44.880 Like basically, he always used to tell me, learn how 0:46:44.920 --> 0:46:46.280 to play in a phone booth. 0:46:46.800 --> 0:46:47.279 You know what I mean? 0:46:47.440 --> 0:46:49.439 If you could be if you know how to master 0:46:49.560 --> 0:46:52.080 how to create shots from a phone booth, you're good, 0:46:52.320 --> 0:46:53.920 you know what I mean. So he used to talk 0:46:53.960 --> 0:46:55.840 a lot of fucking codes. He used to take some 0:46:55.960 --> 0:46:58.480 time to figure out. But when I figure it out 0:46:58.520 --> 0:47:01.799 and the light bulb off, I know I had something. 0:47:02.000 --> 0:47:04.719 Yeah, they don't just spoken enough. How good your footwork is? 0:47:04.840 --> 0:47:04.920 Bro? 0:47:05.040 --> 0:47:05.799 So I had to ask. 0:47:06.000 --> 0:47:08.360 And that's the fire part. When you hear players like 0:47:08.440 --> 0:47:10.480 you and your caliber speaking like you. When you hear 0:47:10.600 --> 0:47:13.600 people like yeah, it's cool to but like now, but 0:47:13.680 --> 0:47:15.640 you always speak on the players like okay, everybody may 0:47:15.640 --> 0:47:18.359 not speak on his name, but like I learned something 0:47:18.400 --> 0:47:20.480 from this player that's pivotal to my game. 0:47:20.600 --> 0:47:24.160 That's like Tony Parker. His footwork was crazy. It's crazy, 0:47:24.239 --> 0:47:26.160 but it's like my hole on and off the court. 0:47:26.760 --> 0:47:29.600 No, no, it's just just on the court. On the court, 0:47:30.320 --> 0:47:31.000 shout to TP. 0:47:32.920 --> 0:47:35.279 I learned from all the motherfuckers, man, Like I really 0:47:35.320 --> 0:47:37.919 became like a student of the game and just watch 0:47:38.040 --> 0:47:40.839 motherfuckers rather if it was a slow motherfucker fast mouth 0:47:41.080 --> 0:47:43.640 quick and just try to take take ship from him 0:47:43.760 --> 0:47:46.399 from him and try to incorporate it, you know, into 0:47:46.480 --> 0:47:46.839 my game. 0:47:47.280 --> 0:47:50.640 You one of the best scores, like you, like we're 0:47:50.640 --> 0:47:53.960 talking about phone booth scores, like you mellow on those guys, Kobe, 0:47:54.719 --> 0:47:57.279 Like y'all can get y'all shot off at any point, 0:47:57.480 --> 0:47:59.359 Like I always say that, Like that's why I said 0:47:59.360 --> 0:48:01.360 when we was gonna play, gonna send doubles. But it 0:48:01.520 --> 0:48:04.320 was like, it don't matter where you at on the floor. 0:48:04.600 --> 0:48:07.239 I know you can get a shot off, like that's 0:48:07.520 --> 0:48:09.760 you know, but you it's never a shot clock violation. 0:48:10.560 --> 0:48:13.440 Like with me, I used to get shot ced like you. 0:48:13.640 --> 0:48:15.480 I'm like, he ain't getting no shot clock violets. You 0:48:15.560 --> 0:48:17.840 know how to get a shot off, That's that's like 0:48:18.719 --> 0:48:21.320 tough to do. That's what I think about you, James. 0:48:21.920 --> 0:48:26.360 Same thing with Melo cole kd y'all le scores. Like 0:48:26.520 --> 0:48:28.120 when I hear people talking about one of the least 0:48:28.160 --> 0:48:30.560 scores in the league, your name should be talking about 0:48:30.560 --> 0:48:31.040 a lot more. 0:48:31.719 --> 0:48:34.160 I appreciate that because you know it's definitely one thing, 0:48:34.360 --> 0:48:39.040 like you know that you know, they get overlooked for 0:48:39.120 --> 0:48:40.680 whatever reason, you know what I mean. I heard somebody 0:48:40.760 --> 0:48:42.879 on the podcast say some ship I wouldn't to score 0:48:43.000 --> 0:48:45.480 and all this, and it's just like, you know, it's like, 0:48:45.600 --> 0:48:48.760 come on, how many points you up? It's only probably 0:48:48.800 --> 0:48:51.400 I think thirty people in the history basketball got more 0:48:51.440 --> 0:48:51.880 points than me. 0:48:52.000 --> 0:48:56.320 So it's like, come on, balance me, like you know 0:48:56.360 --> 0:48:56.680 what I mean. 0:48:56.840 --> 0:48:58.759 So it's like, you know, it's it's one of those 0:48:58.840 --> 0:49:01.200 things like when it comes to it, like you just 0:49:01.680 --> 0:49:02.440 check the facts on. 0:49:02.480 --> 0:49:03.640 It, you know what I mean, when it comes to that, 0:49:04.360 --> 0:49:07.120 and that's crazy thing to say about you. Yeah, I 0:49:07.560 --> 0:49:12.040 put that up. That's why I'm he's buckets around, you 0:49:12.080 --> 0:49:14.080 know what it is. That's the crazy ship to say 0:49:14.120 --> 0:49:15.840 about Broun. It's like, Broun don't really score, bro, he 0:49:15.920 --> 0:49:17.719 got the most buckets ever. How you're gonna say the 0:49:17.760 --> 0:49:19.400 nigga not to score. He got the most buckets ever. 0:49:19.680 --> 0:49:19.799 Bro. 0:49:21.880 --> 0:49:24.400 People just say that just it's just show me how 0:49:24.520 --> 0:49:26.920 stupid they are, you know what I mean, Like, come on, man, 0:49:27.800 --> 0:49:30.719 you get buckets, bro, that's you got buckets your whole career. 0:49:30.800 --> 0:49:34.040 Though it ain't like it's just ain't like you always 0:49:34.320 --> 0:49:36.200 that's the ship that throws me off, like y'all like 0:49:36.400 --> 0:49:39.239 like it's something new, like you always got buckets. Like 0:49:40.160 --> 0:49:42.120 it's kind of funny when I because when I heard 0:49:42.640 --> 0:49:45.960 somebody said on the podcast, I was like, huh, like 0:49:46.040 --> 0:49:47.839 come on if you would to say, yo, he don't 0:49:47.920 --> 0:49:49.600 pass like you don't get assists like that. 0:49:50.280 --> 0:49:56.840 I'm like, when you're gonna look at the status, it's like, 0:49:57.120 --> 0:49:59.319 how bro, you know how people play in this league? 0:49:59.320 --> 0:50:02.400 And he so he topped in the league like. 0:50:03.239 --> 0:50:06.040 Like it didn't even want like I couldn't even like 0:50:06.440 --> 0:50:07.200 comment on it. 0:50:07.320 --> 0:50:10.120 I just thought it was like it was beyond funny 0:50:10.200 --> 0:50:12.719 to me, Like it's just like I guess anybody with 0:50:12.800 --> 0:50:15.359 a microphone can say whatever whatever they want to these day. 0:50:15.760 --> 0:50:17.600 That was crazy your bucket. 0:50:19.560 --> 0:50:23.280 I gotta ask, how was that transition going from Toronto 0:50:23.800 --> 0:50:24.719 to San Antonio? 0:50:25.400 --> 0:50:26.040 Man, it was. 0:50:27.840 --> 0:50:30.520 Tough because obviously everybody know like I wanted to be there. 0:50:30.920 --> 0:50:34.719 I wanted I wanted to stay there everything you know, ship, 0:50:35.000 --> 0:50:37.200 you know, that was that was home. So you know, 0:50:37.880 --> 0:50:43.520 getting traded the way with down, you know, that part 0:50:43.640 --> 0:50:46.560 hurt more than anything. Then you know, when I finally 0:50:46.640 --> 0:50:49.520 calmed down and realized, like, shit, I'm going to San Antonio. 0:50:49.920 --> 0:50:52.600 Damn what they say about City Born blah blah blah. 0:50:52.600 --> 0:50:54.800 It's like, yeah, I'm playing for Pop. It's her like 0:50:55.080 --> 0:50:57.120 fucking coach Pop, Like you know what I mean? And 0:50:57.880 --> 0:50:59.560 what's crazy? When I got traded, I didn't talk to 0:50:59.640 --> 0:51:02.800 nobody for like fucking two weeks. I wouldn't answer my phone. 0:51:02.960 --> 0:51:07.520 I was mad as shit, like I'm I was. I 0:51:07.680 --> 0:51:10.520 was in my feelings. I was like, man, I was, 0:51:10.760 --> 0:51:12.759 I was. I was hurt and I ain't gonna lie. 0:51:13.200 --> 0:51:15.040 But Pop had called me out the blue and just 0:51:15.200 --> 0:51:17.120 was like, look, we didn't trade you. 0:51:17.200 --> 0:51:17.960 We traded for you. 0:51:19.000 --> 0:51:22.040 Like and when I let let that sink in, I'm like, god, damn, 0:51:22.120 --> 0:51:26.120 he got a fucking point like all right, Like and 0:51:26.520 --> 0:51:31.520 just to like be underneath Pop, to hear like the 0:51:31.680 --> 0:51:33.920 game from him, the way he just took me in 0:51:34.040 --> 0:51:37.840 and accepted me more than just a basketball player, like 0:51:37.960 --> 0:51:40.400 to help with the transition, Like I like, I cherished 0:51:40.440 --> 0:51:43.480 that shit forever, man, because it was something I needed 0:51:43.600 --> 0:51:46.560 in my career at the time, because I'm looking you know, 0:51:46.600 --> 0:51:49.040 I'm looking at the game one way my whole time, 0:51:49.120 --> 0:51:51.400 and you know, my nine years in Toronto, I'm thinking, just, 0:51:51.840 --> 0:51:55.280 you know, just go out there, shoot the ball thirty times, 0:51:56.080 --> 0:51:56.719 try to get a win. 0:51:56.840 --> 0:51:59.359 If I don't, if I don't, if I shoot bad, 0:51:59.360 --> 0:51:59.960 at least I try. 0:52:00.520 --> 0:52:03.279 With Pop, it was more so like how can you 0:52:03.400 --> 0:52:07.319 make everybody else around you better and with that make 0:52:07.400 --> 0:52:10.560 it easier on myself. So Pop always used to tell me, 0:52:10.680 --> 0:52:13.839 give me three and a half quarters of playing this way, 0:52:14.560 --> 0:52:17.480 the rest is you. And with that it made the 0:52:17.600 --> 0:52:20.239 game more fun because now I'm getting everybody involved, making 0:52:20.280 --> 0:52:22.839 it easier doing this. But when it was time to win, 0:52:23.000 --> 0:52:25.360 it was like, go win the game, you know what 0:52:25.400 --> 0:52:28.239 I mean. And it gave me a different outlook on 0:52:28.400 --> 0:52:33.000 just how to incorporate use the game, use your teammates, 0:52:33.239 --> 0:52:35.879 get everybody involved, and find the rhythm of the game 0:52:36.000 --> 0:52:39.080 that way. Like my first my first shoot around with Pop, 0:52:39.600 --> 0:52:42.560 I remember he said, man, tomorrow, you the point guard. 0:52:43.080 --> 0:52:45.520 I ain't never played point guard day in my career, 0:52:45.560 --> 0:52:47.319 and it's like he telling me I'm the point guard. 0:52:47.440 --> 0:52:50.040 But I think that whole week, I think I averaged 0:52:50.120 --> 0:52:52.880 like like damn near thirteen fourteen assists, you know what 0:52:52.920 --> 0:52:53.160 I mean. 0:52:53.239 --> 0:52:56.200 But he'd do shit like that to challenge you to 0:52:56.280 --> 0:52:58.160 show you that you can do it, you know what 0:52:58.200 --> 0:53:01.600 I mean, and that that was something definitely needed for sure. 0:53:01.640 --> 0:53:04.000 You heard a lot of good reviews from players about 0:53:04.040 --> 0:53:06.000 coach Propert. Then it's so dope to see now like 0:53:06.600 --> 0:53:09.400 he got wimby. Yes, like we know he's gonna be 0:53:09.440 --> 0:53:11.759 for sure anyway, but he got popped. Like he's the 0:53:11.960 --> 0:53:13.120 next superstar for sure. 0:53:13.560 --> 0:53:16.440 For sure, he definitely gonna learn. I mean, you see 0:53:16.440 --> 0:53:18.400 it now, even just how he was playing the Olympics, 0:53:18.480 --> 0:53:21.840 like the way he played in the championship game, you 0:53:21.880 --> 0:53:24.239 know what I mean, Like he's still a kid, bro, 0:53:24.680 --> 0:53:26.239 But I guarantee you he was on the phone with 0:53:26.320 --> 0:53:28.640 Pop that night this you know what I mean, Pop 0:53:28.719 --> 0:53:31.400 giving him some type of you know, inside and knowledge 0:53:31.480 --> 0:53:33.080 on how to carry that. Now, watch how he beat 0:53:33.120 --> 0:53:33.440 this year. 0:53:34.760 --> 0:53:36.680 It's about to get spooky. And he got feet on there. 0:53:36.760 --> 0:53:44.319 Yeah spoky, bros. Yeah, this shit looked like a video game. Nah, bro, 0:53:44.480 --> 0:53:47.800 Like I've never like we played them this year. I 0:53:47.960 --> 0:53:51.359 swear I had a drive to the lane. He I'm 0:53:51.440 --> 0:53:53.600 on one side of the key, he on the other side. 0:53:53.960 --> 0:53:56.640 I stopped for the layup and pulled it back out. 0:53:57.320 --> 0:53:59.239 He was on the other side of the key. He 0:53:59.360 --> 0:54:02.000 wasn't even like but I just knew he had the 0:54:02.120 --> 0:54:04.640 recovery length to be able to fucking block whatever I 0:54:04.760 --> 0:54:08.439 throw up. Crazy, I'm talking about you. You just looking 0:54:08.520 --> 0:54:10.759 in an eye, Bro, you gonna know like he he 0:54:11.800 --> 0:54:12.319 gonna be one of. 0:54:12.320 --> 0:54:15.239 The ones for sure. Oh yeah, we never seen nothing 0:54:15.320 --> 0:54:18.359 like him? No, hell no like KD. 0:54:19.000 --> 0:54:21.000 What I seen KD I was I've never seen nothing 0:54:21.040 --> 0:54:24.600 like seven can do all that stuff. He four or 0:54:24.640 --> 0:54:25.840 five inches tall and KD. 0:54:27.280 --> 0:54:27.960 What a handle. 0:54:28.800 --> 0:54:29.600 That's crazy. 0:54:30.200 --> 0:54:31.560 Obviously you are student in the game. Who are some 0:54:31.640 --> 0:54:33.680 of the young players in the league that you know 0:54:33.719 --> 0:54:35.399 what I'm saying? Take a notice or take a liking too. 0:54:36.760 --> 0:54:40.360 That's a hell of a question because I think you know, 0:54:42.719 --> 0:54:44.520 like how young are you talking? Like? Whatever? 0:54:44.600 --> 0:54:50.440 Whoever, let's do John, Okay, Like those guys, I think 0:54:50.920 --> 0:54:53.080 they're gonna carry this lead to you know where it 0:54:53.160 --> 0:54:54.440 needs to be. You know what I mean when you 0:54:54.520 --> 0:54:57.600 look at the job the Lucas, it's all those guys 0:54:57.920 --> 0:55:01.239 they like beyond special man, Like you know, I'd be glad. 0:55:01.280 --> 0:55:03.320 I'd be glad when you know John get back healthy, 0:55:03.760 --> 0:55:05.520 he get back on the floor, because you know, the 0:55:05.600 --> 0:55:08.239 game is that much more exciting when those when those 0:55:08.239 --> 0:55:10.759 players are healthy, you know what I mean, Like, you know, 0:55:10.840 --> 0:55:13.000 I hate that he wasn't out there to do, you know, 0:55:13.280 --> 0:55:15.120 to be a part of you know, all this, Like 0:55:15.960 --> 0:55:18.279 it's it's amazing to see just being a fan of 0:55:18.440 --> 0:55:20.759 like all these guys that come in to lead that 0:55:21.160 --> 0:55:23.480 you know, you see him as kids one year and 0:55:23.560 --> 0:55:27.280 the next year fucking you know, they hold swag change 0:55:27.360 --> 0:55:31.000 you see, you know what I mean, They carrying their. 0:55:30.600 --> 0:55:31.400 Their own aura. 0:55:33.080 --> 0:55:36.520 So you know, my favorite players is obviously like John 0:55:36.640 --> 0:55:39.759 Luca fucking you know, I don't know if JT is 0:55:39.880 --> 0:55:41.360 Jason still a fucking and. 0:55:43.360 --> 0:55:44.400 That's one of my favorites. 0:55:44.600 --> 0:55:50.360 And from Compton Listen, I don't know him personally like that, 0:55:50.880 --> 0:55:52.759 but the times I didn't play it. I remember I 0:55:52.800 --> 0:55:56.719 played against ant this year and like the dog he 0:55:56.880 --> 0:55:59.400 got in him. I remember jump ball, He's still right 0:55:59.480 --> 0:56:01.520 next to me. He he guarded me. I'm like, yo, 0:56:02.440 --> 0:56:05.480 Like he take on all these fucking challenges and I 0:56:05.640 --> 0:56:07.800 respect that from a young and like that, you know 0:56:07.800 --> 0:56:10.200 what I mean, Like like you see the dog in 0:56:10.320 --> 0:56:12.400 him and obviously you see it with the Olympic team and. 0:56:13.880 --> 0:56:16.959 What he gonna be come next season. Is like that ship. 0:56:17.200 --> 0:56:18.960 I know what playing in the Olympics do for a 0:56:19.040 --> 0:56:22.200 player like that, shit takes you to a whole another 0:56:22.680 --> 0:56:26.160 level mentally, physically, emotionally, like you feel like you that 0:56:26.440 --> 0:56:30.360 especially being around them those other eleven guys. So like 0:56:30.719 --> 0:56:34.120 those like definitely and one of my favorites. So I 0:56:34.200 --> 0:56:36.160 think those guys gonna carry the league to where it 0:56:36.239 --> 0:56:37.279 needs to be for sure. 0:56:37.520 --> 0:56:39.040 Man, you know what I'm saying. Obviously, you know a 0:56:39.120 --> 0:56:41.480 new situation is summer Congress on that as well. Appreciate 0:56:41.480 --> 0:56:43.359 you're playing with another young dog as well. I don't 0:56:43.360 --> 0:56:45.040 know if it's too young the Fox. 0:56:46.120 --> 0:56:48.600 Yeah, I mean that was part of the reason, you know, 0:56:48.719 --> 0:56:52.680 even making making that decision the Fox. In my career. 0:56:52.840 --> 0:56:57.919 Man, they do that fast listen, fastest ship, fastest ship. 0:56:58.200 --> 0:56:59.680 Like he put me on the bench. 0:56:59.760 --> 0:57:02.560 Man. See, that's the first time I said, you know, 0:57:02.600 --> 0:57:03.759 I think I want to come off the bench. 0:57:03.880 --> 0:57:04.040 Man. 0:57:04.680 --> 0:57:10.439 They want to come against man. I was like, yeah, 0:57:10.440 --> 0:57:13.400 I think we'll come off the bench. I was like, yeah, Minnesota, 0:57:13.440 --> 0:57:15.240 I think you could probably start Jones. 0:57:17.400 --> 0:57:20.800 Nah, yeah, I think that situation, you know, I came. 0:57:21.040 --> 0:57:23.320 It came out of nowhere after you know, season was over, 0:57:23.360 --> 0:57:25.640 when free agency hit. You know, I know it was 0:57:25.720 --> 0:57:27.880 a bunch of other options, but you know, when I 0:57:28.000 --> 0:57:31.040 just sat back and like realized, like, you know, what 0:57:31.200 --> 0:57:34.400 the team needed, what they had, what they was fighting for, 0:57:34.520 --> 0:57:36.920 and how bad they want to win, you know, it 0:57:37.080 --> 0:57:38.640 just fit the mold that you know, I want to 0:57:38.720 --> 0:57:40.680 be a part of. And you know, just being able 0:57:40.760 --> 0:57:43.720 to play with those guys, you know, I'm looking forward 0:57:43.760 --> 0:57:47.400 to it. You know, a monk, sir, hurry. You know, 0:57:47.480 --> 0:57:49.640 it's it's a lot of it's a lot of those 0:57:49.720 --> 0:57:53.240 guys that that that's special, you know, and and I 0:57:53.360 --> 0:57:54.800 really want to be a part of that. I feel like, 0:57:55.120 --> 0:57:57.520 you know I could, I definitely can help. When did 0:57:57.560 --> 0:58:01.160 your game start transitioning? Because to me, I could be wrong, 0:58:01.200 --> 0:58:02.840 but I feel like when you first came to the league, 0:58:03.680 --> 0:58:04.600 he was a high flyer. 0:58:04.880 --> 0:58:07.080 I was, yeah, and then you turned it. I'm not 0:58:07.240 --> 0:58:09.480 saying you dumbed your game down, but you brought to 0:58:09.680 --> 0:58:12.160 like ship, I'm gonna shoot these minies and when what 0:58:12.440 --> 0:58:15.040 you're that like, I'm abo to stop dunking on niggas 0:58:15.040 --> 0:58:16.360 because I'm trying to I ain't trying to be like 0:58:16.800 --> 0:58:20.200 Jeff T and these be all fucked up wanted to 0:58:20.280 --> 0:58:21.720 keep going years and years. 0:58:21.800 --> 0:58:25.280 You know what I mean? What's what's crazy? Twenty thirteen? 0:58:25.440 --> 0:58:32.640 No shame he trying to dunk on everybody. Jeff had 0:58:32.680 --> 0:58:36.240 hots my life like motherfucker, you. 0:58:36.240 --> 0:58:37.680 Know what I'm saying. But he didn't want to stop. 0:58:37.760 --> 0:58:42.360 He didn't know he was a jabblwalking through his whole career. 0:58:43.200 --> 0:58:43.560 What's up? 0:58:45.320 --> 0:58:50.560 What's crazy? That's a great question. Twenty thirteen. I had 0:58:50.600 --> 0:58:55.760 tored my growing I like off the bone. It was 0:58:55.840 --> 0:58:58.840 like six six, seven games in the season. I just 0:58:59.040 --> 0:59:01.800 trying to turn the corner with the ball slipped toward 0:59:01.880 --> 0:59:06.480 my whole groun, and like I was so worried because 0:59:06.480 --> 0:59:09.000 I'm like, man, we're finally getting good. I think the 0:59:09.080 --> 0:59:12.760 year before I had made All Star. So I'm like, man, 0:59:12.880 --> 0:59:15.200 funk I'm trying to do. I didn't want to be 0:59:15.280 --> 0:59:17.880 a one time All Star type of nigga, you know, 0:59:18.560 --> 0:59:19.320 like like. 0:59:22.240 --> 0:59:28.280 To tell your story. I know niggas gonne share the shark, 0:59:28.440 --> 0:59:33.200 tell your side of the story. 0:59:41.960 --> 0:59:47.280 This is about the ad. 0:59:47.440 --> 0:59:47.640 Y'all. 0:59:47.760 --> 0:59:49.320 Come on, man, tell your story. 0:59:49.440 --> 0:59:49.560 Bro. 0:59:49.840 --> 0:59:53.600 I'm bad, jam bad, Bro, my bad. I ain't I 0:59:53.640 --> 0:59:54.760 didn't even think about it, bro. 0:59:56.600 --> 1:00:05.480 Listen. That was funny, that's good. I didn't want to 1:00:05.520 --> 1:00:06.880 be a one time All Star. 1:00:06.960 --> 1:00:10.200 At the time, I was so thirsty, like I was 1:00:10.320 --> 1:00:13.320 so mad at getting hurt to where it was like 1:00:13.440 --> 1:00:17.040 six seven game in the season. So when I tore 1:00:17.160 --> 1:00:20.120 my growing, I'm thinking they talked about surgery and all 1:00:20.160 --> 1:00:21.720 this shit. So I'm like, man, hell no, I ain't 1:00:21.720 --> 1:00:23.800 trying to miss the season all this shit, so I'm 1:00:23.840 --> 1:00:27.040 doing it whatever I possibly can to see how fast 1:00:27.120 --> 1:00:29.120 I could get back. So I ended up doing like 1:00:29.200 --> 1:00:31.880 the PRP shit, you know, rehab. I think I missed 1:00:31.880 --> 1:00:35.080 twenty two games. So I kind of rushed myself back, 1:00:35.200 --> 1:00:38.360 thinking like, fuck it, I can still make All Star. 1:00:38.520 --> 1:00:40.560 We still was winning, let me, let me get back 1:00:40.600 --> 1:00:43.280 out here and started killing. So when I started back playing, 1:00:43.480 --> 1:00:46.160 I wasn't right for that next probably like two years. 1:00:46.400 --> 1:00:47.040 Nobody knew. 1:00:47.080 --> 1:00:51.560 I never said nothing, so that made me scared to 1:00:52.840 --> 1:00:56.720 jump run fast, and that's when I started paying attention 1:00:56.760 --> 1:01:01.360 to theygas like fucking Joe Johnson, fucking I remember. I 1:01:01.400 --> 1:01:04.160 remember during that time, I sat there and watched those 1:01:04.200 --> 1:01:08.720 two years of Michael Jordan playing for the Wizards. I said, oh, 1:01:10.440 --> 1:01:13.360 I swear to god, I watched Jordans every game Jordan 1:01:13.400 --> 1:01:14.480 played in a Wizard jersey. 1:01:14.720 --> 1:01:15.280 I'm like, yo, this. 1:01:15.680 --> 1:01:17.920 They said both his knees was fucked up, he couldn't move, 1:01:18.440 --> 1:01:21.080 blah blah blah. So I'm I'm watching him from the 1:01:21.120 --> 1:01:24.280 standpoint of like, how is he doing? What he doing? 1:01:24.360 --> 1:01:27.880 He's still averaging twenty plus, still getting forty, but he 1:01:28.680 --> 1:01:30.920 not yoused. He not athletic no more. He not the 1:01:31.040 --> 1:01:34.240 old Jordan. So I watched so much in him. So 1:01:34.360 --> 1:01:36.160 when I came back and started playing, I try to 1:01:36.200 --> 1:01:40.200 play more that way to where I started to kind 1:01:40.240 --> 1:01:43.320 of like master playing that way. And by the time 1:01:43.400 --> 1:01:46.760 I got more healthy, my athletic ability and all that 1:01:47.040 --> 1:01:48.240 was in case of emergency. 1:01:49.600 --> 1:01:52.600 So he's listening. He was watching niggas jump off the 1:01:52.720 --> 1:01:56.480 rope and w w he watching the real field. 1:01:57.080 --> 1:02:02.040 I want to enjoy my life. I like wrestling and ship. 1:02:02.920 --> 1:02:05.000 He watching m J. I don't thought m J was 1:02:05.080 --> 1:02:07.240 done looking at. 1:02:07.600 --> 1:02:19.120 Different I'm done. I'm looking like Jordan. He looking at 1:02:19.160 --> 1:02:20.200 the footwork. 1:02:34.720 --> 1:02:37.240 Crazy now. 1:02:37.320 --> 1:02:39.600 But I wanted to talk about because I always want 1:02:39.720 --> 1:02:41.920 I'm bro. I'm a fan bro for real. So I 1:02:42.040 --> 1:02:44.880 watched everybody talk so highly of you, like Kobe White, 1:02:45.000 --> 1:02:48.360 no younger Dayling Terry talk about how the leader you 1:02:48.680 --> 1:02:52.920 was in Chicago, and it's like damn to hear him 1:02:52.960 --> 1:02:54.920 speak about you like that, Like, bro, Tuck is under 1:02:55.000 --> 1:02:57.200 his wing. He talks the ropes and didn't see like 1:02:57.320 --> 1:02:59.840 Kobe White, you know, had an up and down for 1:03:00.240 --> 1:03:02.720 and then you get there and all sudden you see 1:03:02.840 --> 1:03:06.400 him start growing and becoming basically to me, he's gonna 1:03:06.400 --> 1:03:07.000 be one another star. 1:03:07.120 --> 1:03:08.840 I see, I see him being an All Star. This 1:03:08.880 --> 1:03:11.720 shit no question for me. 1:03:11.920 --> 1:03:12.000 Bro. 1:03:12.480 --> 1:03:14.840 It got to a point to when I start realizing, 1:03:14.960 --> 1:03:18.040 like you know, I'm I'm getting older, especially when motherfucker 1:03:18.080 --> 1:03:19.080 started calling me old head. 1:03:19.560 --> 1:03:20.480 Damn shit, you know what I mean. 1:03:20.520 --> 1:03:22.680 That's why I started like I was dodging that ship 1:03:22.760 --> 1:03:26.080 for for a long time, like niggas calling me o 1:03:26.240 --> 1:03:29.200 g oh yeah, like until like I just finally like 1:03:29.400 --> 1:03:31.760 accepted it in a sense to where it's like, y'all, 1:03:31.760 --> 1:03:34.240 I really fuck with these young dudes, bro, because it's 1:03:34.320 --> 1:03:37.120 like I really won't. I really want to see everybody 1:03:37.640 --> 1:03:39.560 be successful and win, you know what I mean, Like 1:03:40.080 --> 1:03:43.440 think about it, bro, Like sometimes I have moments where 1:03:43.480 --> 1:03:45.280 I just sit up here and be like I'm from compting. 1:03:45.320 --> 1:03:49.160 I damned there made three hundred million dollars from playing basketball, damn, 1:03:49.960 --> 1:03:50.520 you know what I. 1:03:50.560 --> 1:03:59.800 Mean, Like like they're like that ship. Let me. 1:04:03.400 --> 1:04:06.280 It's like it's like when I have those moments and 1:04:06.360 --> 1:04:10.080 think about it, it's like, how how much of everything 1:04:10.160 --> 1:04:12.840 I learned, the fails, the success, and everything that I 1:04:12.920 --> 1:04:16.120 could give to these young guys that probably don't know it, 1:04:16.240 --> 1:04:18.160 you know what I mean, the good the bad on 1:04:18.360 --> 1:04:20.960 and off the court. And I really I really put 1:04:21.040 --> 1:04:24.000 my all into all my teammates that I play with, 1:04:24.200 --> 1:04:27.080 all these young dudes, because you know, I remember being 1:04:27.200 --> 1:04:30.360 so blind when I was young, not knowing you know shit, 1:04:30.400 --> 1:04:32.880 I remember I was a motherfucker going to the hotel room, 1:04:33.520 --> 1:04:36.360 order fucking chicken tenders and wings and call it a 1:04:36.480 --> 1:04:39.440 night to where it's like evens even now, it's like 1:04:39.760 --> 1:04:41.680 I take all these young dudes to go eat at 1:04:41.760 --> 1:04:45.000 these restaurants so they can see and understand something different. 1:04:45.560 --> 1:04:48.200 It ain't just hotel food that you can eat, you 1:04:48.240 --> 1:04:50.640 know what I mean? Like I try to like expose 1:04:50.720 --> 1:04:53.520 them to so much more that the world have to offer. 1:04:54.240 --> 1:04:56.240 Don't just be stuck in this one place. And you know, 1:04:56.360 --> 1:04:59.720 once you free up a motherfucking mind to that aspect. 1:05:00.000 --> 1:05:02.000 It helps them with the confidence to help them with 1:05:02.080 --> 1:05:05.560 the preparation. Especially with me, It's like all these all 1:05:05.600 --> 1:05:08.280 these young niggas everybody I play with, see me after 1:05:08.360 --> 1:05:11.240 a game if we on the road, first thing I do, 1:05:11.320 --> 1:05:12.400 I get on the phone with my kids. 1:05:12.440 --> 1:05:14.640 I'm talking to my kids, hearing about my kids. They 1:05:14.760 --> 1:05:17.120 doing this. I'm showing them the responsibilities. 1:05:17.160 --> 1:05:19.560 I still take take care of it on a daily 1:05:19.640 --> 1:05:23.040 base and still be the first one on the bus, 1:05:23.160 --> 1:05:25.240 still be the first one in the meeting, first one 1:05:25.280 --> 1:05:28.160 in the gym, doing all this. And it's like any 1:05:28.440 --> 1:05:31.960 any logical person who sees that will understand, like, damn, 1:05:32.080 --> 1:05:34.360 that's that's thinking about it. Bro, I'm going to six 1:05:34.480 --> 1:05:39.760 year sixteens crazy like still doing it to this level. Like, 1:05:41.120 --> 1:05:43.240 you gotta be consistent. So I try to give the 1:05:43.360 --> 1:05:45.760 game to all these youngins as best as I can. Bro, 1:05:46.200 --> 1:05:47.400 You not every single day. 1:05:47.560 --> 1:05:48.680 You're doing a hell of a job. 1:05:48.840 --> 1:05:48.920 Bro. 1:05:49.640 --> 1:05:52.640 To see I'm just what I'm watching them as players grow, 1:05:52.880 --> 1:05:55.600 and it's like, and they giving you that credit, It's like, damn, 1:05:56.080 --> 1:05:58.360 BRO figured it out. But then to see your game though, 1:05:58.880 --> 1:06:00.600 like to see you when we first in the league 1:06:00.640 --> 1:06:02.240 to where you are now, You're like, yeah, he put 1:06:02.280 --> 1:06:04.400 in the work and that time, and like you said, 1:06:04.960 --> 1:06:08.680 three hundred million, they pay off, Bro, that work and 1:06:08.760 --> 1:06:10.439 to see I know what you're gonna do in Sack 1:06:10.560 --> 1:06:13.520 with that same group, with them young guys who they 1:06:13.600 --> 1:06:15.840 got a great team, You're gonna do the same thing. 1:06:16.600 --> 1:06:18.880 I see him having another great year and making some 1:06:19.000 --> 1:06:20.040 noise in the West, for sure. 1:06:20.280 --> 1:06:24.000 It's crazy more years in the league, Bro, like for sixteen, 1:06:24.120 --> 1:06:26.000 but we can see you playing another five six years 1:06:26.560 --> 1:06:29.400 level Like, that's the dope part about it and everything 1:06:29.440 --> 1:06:30.840 that we learned. I think the best part that we 1:06:30.920 --> 1:06:32.960 get to meet people and you see the difference of 1:06:33.000 --> 1:06:34.720 people who pouring too that team. That's the points it 1:06:34.800 --> 1:06:37.040 showing people more this outside of that. Those are the 1:06:37.040 --> 1:06:39.200 ones you see that get the respect they get to 1:06:39.320 --> 1:06:41.160 their careers and others kind of more sage. It's like, 1:06:41.560 --> 1:06:43.600 all right, the kind of fall by the wayside. So 1:06:43.640 --> 1:06:46.320 it all makes sense, man, it all makes sense for me. 1:06:46.520 --> 1:06:49.680 Like, Bro, I always told myself, like, fuck the media, 1:06:49.960 --> 1:06:53.280 fuck with people p and a gotta say after games 1:06:53.320 --> 1:06:55.480 and all this. I always took the heart like if 1:06:55.520 --> 1:06:59.480 my my peers respect me, all that matters. You feel 1:06:59.480 --> 1:07:01.240 me like that's the only thing that matters as long 1:07:01.240 --> 1:07:04.440 as I could walk in the gym and motherfuckers know, like, man, 1:07:04.600 --> 1:07:07.320 like I fuck with d R D. Man, he gonna 1:07:07.320 --> 1:07:09.960 compete or you gotta bring it like that's that's what 1:07:10.120 --> 1:07:11.040 matters to me the most. 1:07:11.320 --> 1:07:12.320 You got that for sure. 1:07:13.520 --> 1:07:16.200 Off basketball a little bit, man, I want to ask 1:07:16.200 --> 1:07:19.080 you about Kendrick Ryan Man, what you're thinking about the 1:07:19.640 --> 1:07:23.840 he came back, He put the city back, I mean 1:07:24.200 --> 1:07:24.880 the head man. 1:07:24.920 --> 1:07:27.840 I know, Drake your guy, but yeah, but I think 1:07:28.160 --> 1:07:30.520 you know, even not my guy. 1:07:30.600 --> 1:07:33.680 But I think for me being on the inside, it's 1:07:33.840 --> 1:07:37.280 never like it's not a surprise for me, right, I mean, 1:07:37.520 --> 1:07:42.200 like it's it's like like I see Bro or talk 1:07:42.280 --> 1:07:45.440 to Bro, like it's it's a normal thing, you know. 1:07:46.080 --> 1:07:49.280 So it's like when you know a person and it's 1:07:49.360 --> 1:07:53.080 like he he probably somewhere sitting in the room with 1:07:53.280 --> 1:07:55.680 sage lit right now, not knowing what the fuck is 1:07:55.720 --> 1:07:57.720 going on on the outside world of things, you know 1:07:57.760 --> 1:07:59.800 what I mean, because he just he in tune or 1:07:59.840 --> 1:08:00.480 whatever it is. 1:08:00.880 --> 1:08:03.000 He like he living his life, you know what I mean. 1:08:03.160 --> 1:08:07.040 So like as a fan, you know, you you hype 1:08:07.040 --> 1:08:10.960 to see it, But from my standpoint, you know, like, no, bro, 1:08:11.120 --> 1:08:13.760 that's that's that's bro. So it's like when you see him, 1:08:14.280 --> 1:08:17.519 it's kind of like you know, you see j T 1:08:17.720 --> 1:08:19.880 go who in a Big Three, and it's like you're 1:08:19.880 --> 1:08:23.160 really not surprised, you know he yeah, you know what 1:08:23.200 --> 1:08:26.400 I like. So it's really not a surprise if you 1:08:26.479 --> 1:08:28.800 go see him fucking going out there killing motherfucker's in 1:08:28.840 --> 1:08:29.640 the Big Three, it's like. 1:08:30.680 --> 1:08:32.320 Did you know he was gonna be a star or 1:08:32.400 --> 1:08:34.320 had a feeling before, because of course you heard he 1:08:35.400 --> 1:08:39.240 always was like different in ahead of his time and 1:08:39.479 --> 1:08:43.720 and kind of like was a visionary with how he 1:08:43.840 --> 1:08:46.240 approached and looked looked at things, you know what I mean, 1:08:46.320 --> 1:08:49.040 And he always had that and a lot of times 1:08:49.120 --> 1:08:51.200 I think as as just like a man. 1:08:51.280 --> 1:08:53.840 You see the growth and the failures that he he 1:08:53.960 --> 1:08:56.080 took and had to accept and grow from, not just 1:08:56.600 --> 1:08:59.560 fuck it just being about the rap part of it, 1:08:59.680 --> 1:09:01.960 you know personally, you know, and you see the growth 1:09:02.400 --> 1:09:05.640 in an individual, and you know, like we all know 1:09:05.720 --> 1:09:07.640 he nice when it comes to you know, rapping, but 1:09:08.200 --> 1:09:10.000 you know you've seen the growth from it, and you 1:09:10.080 --> 1:09:11.519 know he put it in his art, you know what 1:09:11.520 --> 1:09:13.240 I mean. I know a lot of people you know, 1:09:13.360 --> 1:09:15.320 want to hear more from him all that, but to him, 1:09:15.360 --> 1:09:18.360 it's like, you know, he put his life, he put 1:09:18.479 --> 1:09:22.599 his life out there for us to understand, and sometimes 1:09:22.960 --> 1:09:24.920 niggas got to go through ship to be able to put, 1:09:25.200 --> 1:09:27.800 you know, our life out there and speak about some ship. 1:09:27.920 --> 1:09:31.439 So to me, it's just like, you know, it's cool 1:09:31.479 --> 1:09:34.040 to see him out there, but it's more so like 1:09:34.680 --> 1:09:36.320 cool just to see him, you know, and. 1:09:36.520 --> 1:09:40.200 And in the in the hill space mentally, you know 1:09:40.240 --> 1:09:40.519 what I mean. 1:09:40.680 --> 1:09:42.479 Is that first album Top five. 1:09:42.680 --> 1:09:43.559 The first one one? 1:09:45.600 --> 1:09:50.080 Yeah, yeah, good, but that even that, it's like that's 1:09:50.120 --> 1:09:53.080 such a storyline of you know what I mean, you 1:09:53.240 --> 1:09:57.400 inside like so you do, but it's like that album. 1:09:57.320 --> 1:10:01.760 Like the breakdown of it, it's like you walk Street. 1:10:02.600 --> 1:10:05.320 So it's like like vision and ship like when I 1:10:05.439 --> 1:10:08.120 hear it, like I know exactly, like it's certain ship 1:10:08.560 --> 1:10:10.760 he even say where it's like I may get it 1:10:10.840 --> 1:10:12.400 more than everybody else, you know what I mean. 1:10:12.560 --> 1:10:16.479 But it's like it's definitely in my definitely my tip five. 1:10:16.600 --> 1:10:19.040 What was that like though at that concert, Like yeah, 1:10:19.840 --> 1:10:22.960 like you all y'all on stage, y'all on the whole 1:10:23.120 --> 1:10:23.880 cality together. 1:10:24.320 --> 1:10:26.080 I mean, it was one of those things. I know, 1:10:26.160 --> 1:10:28.800 people get so caught up and looking at the whole 1:10:28.880 --> 1:10:30.559 beef part of it and everything. 1:10:31.320 --> 1:10:32.320 It's bigger than that though. 1:10:32.439 --> 1:10:37.880 It's so much bigger than that, because like it's a 1:10:37.960 --> 1:10:40.800 lot of those dudes I know had problems with another dude, 1:10:41.880 --> 1:10:44.080 this hood, didn't get along with this hood, or or 1:10:44.200 --> 1:10:46.280 it was it was some type of tension or friction, 1:10:46.520 --> 1:10:49.080 or you haven't seen these sets of people around, this 1:10:49.200 --> 1:10:52.479 set of people in X amount of time, and for 1:10:52.600 --> 1:10:54.639 it to be a moment to be able to share 1:10:54.840 --> 1:10:59.479 be shared in LA in the forum, to bring out 1:10:59.600 --> 1:11:03.479 all of artists from like you know, from home, to 1:11:03.640 --> 1:11:06.760 do that with no problem, no issues. Everybody get in 1:11:06.800 --> 1:11:10.040 there with no arguments, no fights, no scuffles lead there, 1:11:10.200 --> 1:11:13.439 everybody get home. It was like it was just a 1:11:13.520 --> 1:11:17.600 different type of fucking like appreciation for one another, you 1:11:17.680 --> 1:11:19.280 know what I mean. I know it's so easy to 1:11:19.280 --> 1:11:21.960 get caught up in the whole beef part of it 1:11:22.040 --> 1:11:25.839 and all that, but for us, it's just like it's 1:11:25.920 --> 1:11:27.120 bigger than that, you know what I mean. 1:11:28.040 --> 1:11:30.000 Music, if music could bring us together, it. 1:11:30.120 --> 1:11:33.560 Just show you how powerful we are as people that 1:11:33.600 --> 1:11:36.559 if we just put all the fucking egos and all 1:11:36.640 --> 1:11:38.760 that sensitive ship to the side, like we really could 1:11:38.800 --> 1:11:40.800 come together and do something special, you know what I mean? 1:11:41.640 --> 1:11:43.799 That was a moment too man like not even. 1:11:48.200 --> 1:11:48.479 To do that. 1:11:48.560 --> 1:11:50.840 Brow lights get niggas that can go crazy in the 1:11:50.920 --> 1:11:57.360 city like there to Toronto, bro, but that ain't speak even. 1:11:57.200 --> 1:12:01.120 That, Like just how great the I know it's so 1:12:01.320 --> 1:12:03.880 easy when people get caught up in the size and 1:12:03.960 --> 1:12:04.240 all that. 1:12:04.400 --> 1:12:08.160 But it's like, I don't think Drake. 1:12:08.000 --> 1:12:11.080 Still the phasing ship that Drake then did over what 1:12:11.320 --> 1:12:17.479 the last fifteen years, nothing nothing could ever take. 1:12:17.360 --> 1:12:18.360 That away, you see what? 1:12:18.960 --> 1:12:21.400 Like I know, like I said, it's always easy when 1:12:21.960 --> 1:12:23.920 I look at it from be honest with you, I 1:12:24.040 --> 1:12:25.960 look at all this ship like I really come from, 1:12:26.120 --> 1:12:29.600 like the hood I come from, like niggas losing their 1:12:29.680 --> 1:12:33.160 life over some dumb shit over dice games, Like I 1:12:33.240 --> 1:12:35.600 didn't have an uncle get killed by that was a 1:12:35.640 --> 1:12:38.400 blood that got killed by a crypt. Another uncle that 1:12:38.520 --> 1:12:41.519 was a crypt that got killed by blood and like it, 1:12:41.680 --> 1:12:44.720 and it fucked up my whole like childhood upbringing to 1:12:44.800 --> 1:12:50.840 where it's like y'all letting songs divide and create and 1:12:50.880 --> 1:12:53.880 make people so sensitive to where it's like to me 1:12:54.000 --> 1:12:57.240 it's like, come on, man, like we it's like watching 1:12:57.280 --> 1:12:58.679 a fucking action packed movie. 1:12:59.160 --> 1:13:01.120 Nobody really, you know what I mean. 1:13:02.160 --> 1:13:04.439 To me, I hated how it started because they're just 1:13:04.520 --> 1:13:08.280 two totally different artists. To me, I didn't I get Drake, 1:13:08.360 --> 1:13:11.160 and really it's just Kendrick, like you said, it really 1:13:11.360 --> 1:13:14.320 comes from kind of more respected. 1:13:14.680 --> 1:13:18.519 Yeah, but it's like, I think you can't just never 1:13:18.640 --> 1:13:26.479 discredit like Drake. Drake. Drake is like Drake. You was 1:13:26.560 --> 1:13:27.880 in the city when Drake. 1:13:28.040 --> 1:13:32.160 Really, yeah, I see, yeah, I've seen from from the 1:13:32.320 --> 1:13:36.200 beginning to to so where is it the star? 1:13:36.400 --> 1:13:39.080 You know, Like, I don't think it will ever be 1:13:39.200 --> 1:13:41.960 another Drake. That's just that's just what it is, you know. 1:13:42.080 --> 1:13:44.360 And ain't nobody ever fought against that many people bro. 1:13:46.760 --> 1:13:48.280 Drake him, Kendrick him. 1:13:48.360 --> 1:13:51.320 To the end of the day, it just comes down 1:13:51.360 --> 1:13:54.160 to being that, like both of them the big dogs 1:13:54.200 --> 1:13:57.280 at what they do, and why about that being respected? 1:13:57.400 --> 1:14:00.200 Everybody got spared one day. But that's list. 1:14:00.640 --> 1:14:04.320 Hey, in my neighborhood, the two toughest niggas have to 1:14:04.360 --> 1:14:07.960 get down. One gotta lose. That don't make them less 1:14:08.000 --> 1:14:09.840 than the other one, you know what I mean, It's 1:14:09.920 --> 1:14:12.479 just be more respected because ain't nobody else gonna get 1:14:12.479 --> 1:14:14.040 down with one of these one of them niggas. 1:14:14.840 --> 1:14:17.479 That's just so. That's that's my view. 1:14:17.600 --> 1:14:20.400 Everybody who don't come from the streets or understand the 1:14:20.439 --> 1:14:22.600 street part of it may not look at it like that. 1:14:22.760 --> 1:14:25.280 It may getting their feelings or be sensitive about certain ship. 1:14:25.479 --> 1:14:27.599 For me, I look at all this ship, like bro, 1:14:28.200 --> 1:14:29.599 ain't nobody hurt this ship? 1:14:29.720 --> 1:14:30.000 Is this? 1:14:30.439 --> 1:14:35.120 This is it was good watching fucking the matrix. See 1:14:35.240 --> 1:14:38.160 I told you about Lebron and Brownie. This is the matrix. 1:14:38.200 --> 1:14:44.639 Man, let's get up before Now that's hard. I think 1:14:44.680 --> 1:14:45.960 it's dope and ship right. 1:14:46.160 --> 1:14:49.479 What you think about like seeing bron I got the 1:14:49.760 --> 1:14:52.479 upmost respectful bron but be able to see his son 1:14:52.520 --> 1:14:54.559 in the league with them play on the same team that. 1:14:54.760 --> 1:14:57.400 You know how the league work. Yeah, it's gonna be 1:14:57.479 --> 1:14:59.720 a moment where Bronni and Broun in the game, but 1:14:59.800 --> 1:15:03.920 the same time he's starting. I ain't say he's starting, 1:15:03.960 --> 1:15:04.960 but it's gonna be a moment. 1:15:05.080 --> 1:15:07.599 I told everybody it's gonna be a highlight or little 1:15:07.640 --> 1:15:10.599 bron You're gonna throw brown alive and the ships gonna 1:15:10.600 --> 1:15:11.000 go crazy. 1:15:11.120 --> 1:15:13.479 That's gonna be everywhere. You know it's gonna happen though, 1:15:13.520 --> 1:15:14.840 right for sure, that's. 1:15:14.720 --> 1:15:17.880 What I'm hoping. I'm watching a game with me too. 1:15:18.360 --> 1:15:19.799 I'm gonna lie, I'm gonna recorded. 1:15:20.240 --> 1:15:23.760 I don't want it to be against the Kings, but 1:15:23.880 --> 1:15:26.840 it's definitely a moment like come on, bro, like damn 1:15:26.880 --> 1:15:27.320 with everybody. 1:15:27.600 --> 1:15:30.600 None of us never seen no ship like that, so 1:15:30.960 --> 1:15:33.719 for to be an opportunity for that to happen. Ship, 1:15:33.760 --> 1:15:36.320 if I had a son, I want like if my son, 1:15:36.880 --> 1:15:40.160 if my son, now, if my my son two years old, 1:15:40.240 --> 1:15:45.000 so you cook, But if I had my son was 1:15:45.120 --> 1:15:48.439 in that position, I will I will want the same thing. 1:15:48.600 --> 1:15:51.200 For sure. They do nothing. 1:15:51.760 --> 1:15:53.720 I gotta start having kids at fourteen that we ain't 1:15:53.760 --> 1:15:54.120 pushing that. 1:15:54.880 --> 1:16:08.559 But if you're trying to leave, what a good circle, man. 1:16:08.600 --> 1:16:10.200 We're about to get the fuck up out of here. Man, 1:16:10.320 --> 1:16:12.479 biged out. We appreciate you sliding on this man, best 1:16:12.479 --> 1:16:14.759 of luck this season. Were definitely gonna be watching the Kings. 1:16:15.120 --> 1:16:17.160 Be here. Tell the people that can grasp and march at. 1:16:17.120 --> 1:16:19.639 Shop Club five twenty dot com. Baby, were out of here. 1:16:19.960 --> 1:16:22.920 Thanks, you know what it is. Club five twenty The 1:16:23.120 --> 1:16:23.519 volume