Love Actually with Debra DiGiovanni
Actually, Caitlin, Jamie, and guest Debra DiGiovanni actually discuss Love Actually's noticeable lack of actual female relationships, among its other barf pile-inducing qualities.
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2016-12-22
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00:00:00 Speaker 1: On the be Dol Cast, the questions asked if movies have women in um, are all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands, or do they have individualism the patriarchy? Zef and best start changing it with the Bedel Cast. Hi, welcome to the Bechtel Cast. My name is Jamie Loftus, my name is Caitlin Durante. And this is the Okay, Caleb start to dope queens. Oh no, that's crap, we funked up. It's okay, let's stop. No, this is great, this is gold. We're keeping it. Our podcast is about the portrayal of female characters in movies. That's true, and that's why we call it the Bechtel Test. We just had a long discussion if we should keep introducing what the Bechtel Test is, and we decided no, no, We're We're done. Aristotle are the man of the operation. He's usually just tied to his chair, but he also does an amazing job. We took the ball gug out of his mouth right and he's like, well, he made a suggestion. He gets to say one sentence every time they see him. And he made the great recommendation that if you don't know what it is. Just go back to the first episode and listen. And in the time it took me to say that, we could have just told you what it was. Well, nobody's perfect. It's almost Christmas, it's Chris it is. It's a Mike's Hard Lemonade day for me, Jamie, I've had a really Christmas e day. Is Mike's Hard Lemonade a Christmas e? No, this is a coping mechanism, I see. But I spent all day chasing around mall Santa's for my job, and none of them wanted to talk to me except South Central Santa, who really gave me a lot of things I need to think about. That's great. No, it's a disgrace with my life and time. It sounds like you're doing very interesting things. Who else today in America or anywhere in the world being cont and here the only one. Well, here's my Mike's Hard Lemonade. To that, without much further ado, I say, we introduce our wonderful guests. Hey, let's do it. She is a comedian and a very wonderful person. I'm so happy. Oh yeah, we love you so much. Debra. We're good. What is your job? What do you what. So I write for news outlet called Inverse, and I'm They're like, only West Coast writer. They let me sort of do whatever, and they were like, Jammian, we think would be really fun if you talk to a lot of mall Santa's. And I wasn't anticipating so many hoops to jump through to talk to them. All there's a ton they don't want to talk to you. I left it my apartment at eight this morning and I went to Glendale. Both the Santa said fuck off. No, I went to South Central that Santa would talk to me. I went to the Grove they said fun would say come on. They even offered me like a really embarrassing consolation price. They're like, you can take a picture with the gingerbread man. Now, you guys fuck off. And then I tried to hit up to Beverly Hills Santa's, who were assholes. And then I have to go to Santa Monica after this if my person is also going to be an ass like I'm going to drive all that way and he's gonna tell me to funk off. Trouble is like malls are always in these like elitist neighborhoods, and they're like these rich It's true, it's true. Yeah, malls are night little dicks, It's true. But the South Central Santa was nice to you, right, he was awesome. Yeah, if you're listening to this, maybe check it out. It will be on in first dot com. And I had a great conversation with him. He's the first black mall Santa ever. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah. So anyways, anyways, that's what said about. Now, No, we're here to talk about the movie love. Actually, oh no, I feel like we're going to get in trouble. Yeah, people love this movie. Like this was my first time watching. Okay, I have avoided I don't know why I've avoided it, but I have because it's a piece of shit. Makes me. PU said, I used to love this movie. Me too. I remember the first time watching and I love this movie. And on every successive watch I hate it more and more. Kids, And like I was trying to put myself in like what if I watched this when it came out, and I think I would have loved it. I love a good one because I loved I love vignettes, love it. But what year was it done to me? I didn't even check two. Okay, so a long time ago, but I have no excuse. I was not young, you know what I mean. I feel like I was eleven, No, no, with a grown woman. I was. It was reason enough that it's like I was like, we're thinking that different, That's what I mean. It's not like three. We could give it a bit of a pass. But now no sor it too recent for it to be this bad. Oh my god. I had a lot of problems, but I was also like sort of horny. The home confusing. How do we launch into this, like with our rage against Yeah, this is a tough one. We usually start by doing just a very brief overview of the story, of which there are around trillion Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, so yeah, this movie is full of just little micro stories. It's a bunch of vignettes, sort of tidy wedding and Harry poorly poorly connected like in the most unbelievable ways. But anyway, tell like whenever this was like mapped out in a room, like there's just a bunch of dudes jerking off. Yeah, they so hard after this, like what we make and Thompson and Hugh Grant brother and sister, but never mentioned it until the very end, I mean some Chronicles of Narnia ship. Yeah, no, And then I was like at the end, I was like, was that supposed to be a twist? Like and they're like, look at this big reveal. It's like, no one gives a ship. He was like, Oh, this movie was bad. So each of these storylines depicts like a separate relationship because this movie is about love, love actually. It's even like man splaining in the title, isn't it actually actually love actually? So each of these stories really, they're all so dumb and they're they're focusing on a specific relationship, most of them romantic, but not all of them. The first one we see is Bill Nigh, whose name is Billy Mac. He's trying to make a comeback as a musician. His manager is his friend, so there's that storyline. They're friends. Yeah, No, we love Bill Knight. We've said this before. Didn't give you, we we forgive you, and we love you all the same because he is, oh Night, He's made a lot of missteps, still him, he's oh yeah, yeah, he's um. Yeah, he's in the worst movie I've ever seen, which is I Frankenstein Star. He's the villain and it looks like he was not briefed on what the movie sinister and then he leave, but he plays a gargoyle overlord. I want it's also the weird octopus villain from Pirates of the Caribbean. Oh yeah, he isn't forgot Okay, Because I was wondering, I was like, did he and Kiera Knightley already know each other because of the whole octopus guy things? Maybe not think this movie came first? Okay? So they were like, oh love actually on the set of Party cool. Another storyline we get Colin Firth's character Jamie. I want to say, uh Jamie, Look isn't Jamie? Oh yeah, he luncle Jamie. He falls in love with Portuguese woman. No, I'm sorry, but we'll get to a second. He gets cuckolded by his brother, so that's another storyline. Liam Neeson is sad about his dead wife and then he accepts on who is in love with a girl at school. Yeah. I've never hated a child more than that child. Next storyline is Emma Thompson. I forget her character's name. She is in a relationship with Alan Rickman. He assistant throws herself at him and then he like kind of strays a little bit. That's a storyline. There's the ugly guy who wants to bang the American ladies. There's the porn standard. Oh my god, I almost blocked that part out almost, Oh god, And that's such a shame because we love him, Martin Freeman. This, I feel like this was the big very beginning, and like he really needed the money for this. Okay, let's give him the benefit of the But that said, I feel like I could have written that storyline like in like a ninth grade short story, like wouldn't it be wild? Yeah? And then you get expelled from school? But right, and then I make actually love yeah okay, the holidays okay, very atheist okay. Uh. Then we have the walking dead guy and he's in love with Pure Knightley even though she's married to his best friend. His best friend. Yeah, but then it's still like, isn't this romantic? No, it's horrible per worded. Yeah, that video I can't even Okay, there's more stories? Is there one more? There's the Prime Minister, I mean, perfect casting. How could Hugh Grant not be playing the pri and he falls in love with I don't know if she's an intern, she gets that's what we know. She brings some biscuits, but also sometimes important files. I don't know, we've all had that job. And finally Laura Lenny who's in love with I don't know if he's Italian, I'm not sure. And his name is Carl, a hot barign man named You couldn't even given us a Carlos at the very last, but you Carlo, Carl Carl car so many letters to work with. Yeah, that's it. So those are the you know, that's a different story lines, Hubris, That's what I think about this. But I like, let's lead with the concept of an ensemble movie is so great, but I feel like it's so rarely works. Su I think it's tough. I think it's tough because this is this is huge, This is like this is a whole bunch, Like all the British stars are in this, you know, honestly, Yeah, seriously, Yeah, Yeah, it's it's tricky and again like the vignettes also tricky, and there's a lot, there's too many, like it's just nine or ten. Is just it's a lot to try to interweave. Yes, is probably yes, Yeah, but this is so now. Okay, basically, I think you get by now that we really hate this movie. I think that is you know, you've picked up on that unless you're you know, troubled um. But the movie itself is you know, every every single one, they're just it's just deplorable. It's awful. But then when you go back, because I knew the right away, I was like, this is gonna be fun to talk about because it's so awful. But then when you actually focus on the female characters, it made it like double horrible. Like I just I literally felt sick for a moment when you really go back and and just figure out every So let's let's start from the beginning and just talk about the women, how they're portrayed in this it's so awful. Number one Okay, so well, there's no female characters in the Bill Night storyline. And on Calin Firth and Aurelia. Yeah, first of all, he is cu colded by his by his brother and his wife. Right, so um, but I have just the thing that drives me insane. I already even just you know, everyone we call every cock and that's a new word in our life now. I find it interesting that men even just get a word for when they're cheated on. Do women get a word for when we're cheated on? We don't. Basically that he was cuckolded and women, it's like it's it's a part of life, like that's basically you know what I mean. Boys get a special word because they were cuckled, but no, we just live with it. We call you're exactly right, right, fine, I know you know that doesn't It's just it's always that's always irked me that it's like, oh, dudes get a word for anyway whatever? Um, but y yea and God forbid a man be cheated on? Oh no, So he gets cheated on right away and then goes to his cottage or something. Yeah, And and there's um yeah, and there's a cleaning woman. I guess the maid. Who is she? And she doesn't speak a word of English deeply on a level where like none of us have experienced in our lives yet, you know, and they don't but they don't speak the same language at all, which is me neither. I didn't like it at all. This that I have in front of me describes it as in spite of the fact that neither of them speak the same language, their personnel. These are similar. That's the problem. Because there are so many different storylines and so many characters, there's not enough time to develop anyone characters fair enough. Characters are under developed, and then just the depiction of love and romantic love and relationships is very glossed over because everything that's portrayed as very surface level, and usually the character's relationships are based on like a physical attraction rather than so like, yeah, they were hot, that would have been fair. Like if they would have just like you know what I mean, it would just been a hot weekend of passion, fund right. I think we all would have accepted that and been like, all right, but no, But then they get married and proposed stories like if that had just ended with like he learned some Portuguese and as yeah, I would have been like, that's actually very sweet, where he finds the will to love again and then just moves on with his life. No longer cook because yeah, because this story takes place over the course of five weeks, so in that time he manages to write a novel because it only takes five weeks. I don't know. If you fall in love and propose Mary, that's not too effort cook. That's a free official work for a cook. And you know what, we love calling Firth week you know, lovely, he always you know, he's great, but this is you know, they're just it's just too quick. You know. The whole of the whole thing is that no one gets to stretch the legs, no one gets to really you know, be worthwhile in any capacity in this movie. So he's just stuttering king exactly exactly you've seen. That really drives me nuts in this storyline is where all of his papers fly into the little pond and she just strips down for no reason and jumps in the water, and like the way the camera like lingers on her body and pans up and down. Very gross. But the thing I kept trying to put my head in, like what if I saw this when it came out, because I would have been eleven when this game out? Oh did I not say eleven? Did I say? It's like I think that if I had seen that scene, like you know, when you're younger, I would have interpreted like, oh so that's what you do. Yeah, someone's papers, a veritable stranger's papers about I would have taken it as gospel like the nice time someone drops something, I'm just gonna strip new like and which is gross. And the way it was like like the way that they pan her body and just like come and really like would you you have to save your your maids out for it from getting wet? I mean seriously, like I would maybe take off my shoes in my watch, but other than that, I'm you know, you keep everything. He could get it, yes, exactly yea, and he could be yeah, he can type on a laptop and save it. Yes. And what I really hated I hated the when they go to the her family's restaurant and then the way they like they pick the other sister against her and she's the gross sister. I hated it so much. It was just I found that part just like, oh, is this the comic relief part where there's a un attractive one that should marry for Oh, it's just there's I made notes of all the times that women are reduced to nothing more than either how attractive they are or what they look like, and there are dozen't of course. Yeah, there's one instance in this storyline where Aurelia's father is talking to her other her sister and he calls her like miss Duncan Donuts two thou or two thousand three because she's a heavier woman. And it's just like that's like a Donald Trump comic, frustrating, and there's tons of those. Were like, I'm sorry anyway. Also, um Natalie, who is the love interest of the gods, her father also calls her tubby or bee. That's her And if that woman is fat, like sign me up, Like are you kidding me? There is nothing fat about her. She's a perfect hour glass and she's gorgeous, and they they talk about her thighs the entire character anyway, Yeah, disgusting. So has that happens a lot. Women are just like they're either like objectified or like deeply disappointed. That's all I get. That's all I get. Okay, what's the next one after after Uncle Jamie liam Neeson slash his stepson. Yeah, you know, I will say the only okay, there was only two scenes in this entire movie still that maybe kind of go okay. Three in the beginning when they're at the funeral and he plays her her favorite song, and that's still the only part that I was like because and that's just that's a lovely look, but that's it. But that is all. And then Liam turns into a pitiful excuse of a man and doesn't know how to relate to a child, which I guess I understan dand but the whole thing is just it's just contrived and awful. And that child, oh god, he's just yeah, and how old was he supposed to be and madly in love with I think a girl much older than him. She seemed she did see the way out of his story, out of his leg and that's yeah, exactly supposed to be eleven and she was like seventeen easy but there's no way, and and just super duper out of his league whatever developed, Yeah, very much and really beautiful. And then learning the drums to who the whole thing is about him trying to snag a girl even though like he just he never even just spoke to her, but never even even at that young age, like it was like he never even say I guess think for Uncle James Portuguese is the adult equivalent yeah, yeah, yeah, which again he was able to do in two weeks. Yea, all it takes to learn the drums. I can't believe. I can't believe none of us have written a novel or learned to play the drums. Wow, we've been talking like, I'm disgusted with us. Where is our Maybe it's like in the matrix when you can just like plug in and three. It would be like a floppy disk I missed. I found a bunch of floppy disks in my house when I was visiting home in the most recent time. I was like, we'll just never know. There's a line of dialogue I wrote, also wrote down my favorite lines of dialogue. So as Liam Neeson is lamenting about his dead wife, Emma Thompson says to him, how how how are they related? Again, they don't specify. Okay, okay. He starts crying and she says, get a grip. People hate sissies. No one is going to shag you if you cry all the time, which is like, what now the good message for the kids? Yeah, he's like pouring his heart out to her. Her response is just like to perpetuate this like idea of like the word masculinity, and it wor to be like a funny moment. It's just like I'll only fucking man if he's crying. Yeah, that's my power give you something to cry with me. Yeah, it's like you want to cry. Actually one time promised tears. But even the words sissy, it's like really like it's suddenly it's all. It's just yeah, it's it's ochaic and ridiculous. Anyway, I forgot about that, Like I glossed over that, Like I don't even think I even heard that. The second it is like yeah, because and his wife is barely cold and dead in the ground, and like it's been twenty minutes, and they're like, you should be fine, king already. What Jesus give him a minute, you know. Anyway, and that's another very male thing of like you got to get back out. They're like women, they're like, we're black for a year exactly. You have to cover your face, yea. So okay, are we say that the whole movie is five weeks? Because that's fair, all right. So then at the end two of his vignette, he meets Claudia Schiffer. Of course he does, um, yes, because that makes perfect sense. Um because she's the mother of the of the beautiful, the teacher or something. Yeah. And so then at five weeks of mourning the loss of his wife, he's ready for Claudia. Sure, I mean I guess who knew, I get who wouldn't be Let's be honest. Anyway, Yeah, the next early on two, by the way, that really I think unbelievable. Okay, the next one is Emma Thompson. Again I don't remember. Okay, me neither, but I will say again we'll do a little you know. I love Emma Thompson usually and thank you, and we love of course Alan Rickman as well. Uh, this one it's they're seeing there is repugnant as well. But at the same time, I don't know, like they just they may just because I like the both of them, they felt the least disgusting to me. Um, but I mean, you know the his stories of course, the beautiful young chippy at the office, she's just like so slutty. It's ridiculous, Like it's just the kind of behavior that like at the office. Really with the sitting with the legs apart, it's like, whoa, I mean, it's just it's ridiculous. That reminded me of Margot Robbie in Yes, Yeah, and also what's the movie with Sharon Yes, Yes, I mean ridiculous And this is at the office Okay, the whole story is is that, you know, obviously he's been married to Emma Thompson for a while, they have children, you know, they're a regular couple. And then he is tempted by this the young hot girl, the psychopath, it's going to say, who will clearly go through your trash and never leave you alone. Um, but he falls, you know, he likes but we nothing, nothing happens between the two of them. He buys her a present that should have been for you know, she thinks it's the wife thinks it's for her, it's not. It's jewelry. And he then he gets her Joni Mitchell c d's, which, let's be honest, you know whatever, and it kind of sucks. But so nothing but he but he does think about it, obviously, and that's enough for her. Now I'm going to say this, this is really like you don't go to therapy or try to work it out. He thinks of another woman, and you're done, yes or no? Are we like? That seems to be a bit impetuous. I mean, yes, okay, that was a mental emotional cheat. But I would maybe we have kids, I would maybe think about it. I mean, I would go for some therapy and then figure it out. No, yes, I'm wrong, No, I think she has an appropriate reaction with just to be just be upset when she comes up. But then yes, she pretty really readily just ye oh yeah, I mean she she's broken. And I will say again, Emma Thompson is a fabulous crier. She just did. She's a good crier. And the scene where she goes and cries in the bedroom and then comes back and she's like, all right, let's go to the pageant. I find me too. I did feel that too, because she's a really good crier. Yes, but of yeah, I get it. Yes you'd be heartbroken because you know what your husband's thinking and doing. But I would have gone to therapy after all of these character Yes, therapist if they moved into that family would make a killing killing But I don't know, Like, especially because Emma Thompson's character is introduced as being like so set in her ways and like this is the life path she's chosen and she's sticking to it, it seems almost like out of character about the very little we know about her that she would just be like you know what, fusk However, many exactly she's made this she so big into her family, and it's like she'said and she's this wonderful mother and she takes care of everything and then she's like I'm done. I mean it just it's very like she would do it my mom did, which is just be like you will obey me. Now I'm in charge and you have a very short law. If I'm the cock, that's it. That's it. And they also portray her, you know, as that sort of like pitiful type of oh and she's let herself go and I don't know, like they just really gave her kind of like a schleppy type vibe. The whole thing is like, you know, and we love Alan Rickman, but like what I mean, it's not like you know what I mean, it's yes, you know what I mean, like they are equally matched, that is, you know, it's not at all like shocking, and they just make it so like she's, you know, whatever deserves to be cheated on or something. I don't know. There's a scene where me A, the young assistant that's in love with him, that's throwing at him, takes off all of her clothes and it's just like in a red bra and underwear, and she like and it's like, why is this in the movie? What? And I like, for a second, like, I guess you could argue that it serves to contrast because in the scene shot right before that you see Emma Thompson having taken off her dress. That's exactly what I thought of too, and she's in like a full like slip. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and its evil but yeah, what you know, and what bothers me about that is is guess what. Mia, By the way, Earth is also going to age at some point and she will one day be Emma Thompson. So just get the funk over yourself. Man. Anyway, Oh I got angry there for a second. Does she not? Also does she not also answer the door in the same bra? Am I wrong? Or she wearing the top when she answers the answer? She's wearing it? Okay, Okay, I just feel like she's in that red rob the very She's like one of those cartoon character closets. It's just so red bros. I thought she's the Einstein of Red Brass to dug or something totally anyway, Yeah, professor's name was My mom loves this storyline, and I'm like what mom, But she like so much for Emma Thompson's character. But as you mentioned, like there was sort of like an emotional infidelity that happened. But and that would and that would don't get it wrong, that would it would happen. But if you're married to someone else, you still find yourself attracted. Absolutely. Yeah. And this wasn't like a boyfriend. This was her like husband for Dick. Yeah, absolutely, And you know, and again I were not, you know whatever to each is that one how you think about it? But you're right men and of course women too, but men have a tendency to have a wandering eye a little bit more because you know, they're way more visual than women are. And so yeah, you look at the hot girl at the office, Okay, I mean it gets the buying of the gift means something he does, he does, act on it, he does. And also really, I mean I guess and she young, slutty, sexy Mia, she's going for a man like thirty years or senior. Really, yeah, like what's the motive? I mean, wasn't at the same office that Carl works at. I mean she's like yeah the whole time. That was just sort of like you know all due respect exactly anyway, we all have a radic tape A little weird. That's problem with almost every storyline in this movie is that the character's personalities aren't established, so you have no idea what anyone likes anywhere. We're just we're facing it on agent. Looks that's what we're doing, right right. I forgot a line of dialogue that I wrote down that is just what a gem. He's telling his assistant or whatever Mia to plan the Christmas party, and he says it's one of the things to do advise the girls to avoid Kevin if they want their breasts unfondled, which the implications of that are he is the boss and he knowingly has an employee who sexually assaults women, and his advance is just to keep your breaths away from this. Yeah, whatst That is really disgusting. Will I think that his secretary she has to change her panties every five she's just like the yeah from a Yeah, she's just gooping. Yeah, I've totally forgot that line that. I don't know if I even never noticed it Inte neither, but I know I know that that, Yeah, it's just like a throwaway line. But it's like, wait a minute, condoning sucking asshole. Yeah. Anyway, next storyline, when Colin got a X wants to go to America to Wisconsin. They this is my most hated I hate this one so much. It's really dumb. Alright, Akay, let's get into Okay. First of all, you at the beginning called him ugly, and it's so true because he's got like God bless He's friend calls him ugly. He is. He's one of those eyes with too much space, you know what I'm saying, Like it's like the eyes on a bit of a fish with it's on the opposite and you know whatever I mean. Please, I know what I look like. But this boy, this is a little unfortunately. Of course, what saves him, of course in this whole thing is the British accent. And that's the only part that's clever in this whole thing is the fact that he's a British accent and then American women go crazy for him. Now, this is we sometimes do this. I'm not gonna lie. We have moments when we do this because there is something about a British accent that it's so able and it's wrong, and I feel stupid for saying it, but it's true. They have cute and the little and their words in there. And that's the only part about the whole scene, his whole storyline that is actually like, okay, remotely clever. When they're asking him to name things, what do you call this, and it's yeah, exactly, it's all right, that's cute. But of course then he goes to America because he says, and where does he go? Idaho or something? Wisconsin? Okay, So he shows up and he just walks into a diner of some sort and then meets those three women who like they hurt my soul, like I just it was January. That was January jar oh my gosh. Yeah. And then um, the other with the Chris, the Canadian girl what's her name, yeah, Cuthbert yeah. And then um, of course the girl from American Pie Oh, Elizabeth, yes, Shannon, yeah, right, And there was there was one more oh yes, and then that that other one, the third girl who I can I don't know her name anyway, all hot, gorgeous girls and the way they they portray them is just ridiculous. It's just it's it is. It's absolutely really. I think they're all wearing cowboy hats, aren't they. They're like it's like someone google yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's ridiculous. Yeah, it's so stupid, And I think it's meant to be, like sure, they want to balance certain storylines out. Some of them are going to be more comical, some of them are going to be more emotionally. Yeah, but it's like, oh God, try harder. I don't know, like they're so not just even their backstory they all lived together and then they shared it's so gross and they as like absolutely absolutely, like they accidentally sprayed each other with ketchup or something and it's just, oh, my top and they it's just it's so like cue the music, Like the nineteen seventies porn should have happened immediately because it was just ridiculous. But I thought was going to happen like this would be like that sort of and it's hacky and terrible too, but it would have been less offensive if like he shows up and there's two slow any chicks and one is like not like the others, and she's like, I don't fall for your and I was waiting for her to come to yea no, she doesn't know. It just it just gets worse and he just immediately kisses him, and it's just like she walks in. She's just like God, because that's what Americans do, by the way, I don't know if you know that they immediately kiss you on the mouth. I mean, it's just it's it's it's absolutely ridiculous. It's just and the whole like they're back, they're all roommates and they sleep together, and it's just like who taught you about women? Whoever wrote this scene? Like it is just it is some thirteen year old boys fantasy and they put it on the director of this movie because some googling. Anyways, we'll get there. He wrote it to write and directed. Oh he's a yeah. I did fall for that though. Whenever I was a young, younger person and I was living in New York City and there was a British guy in a bar and he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's Australian. Yeah. We had a little bit of a romance on the fact that he was British not that attractive. If he was, that American accent have been repulsive. Once a British navy men offered me m d m A and I was so close to taking it just and he looked like a foot that like maybe I didn't. It's we're suckers. It's awful, but it's true. Yeah. The next one is the porn stand ins, which, first of all, I want to see that's as high production value enough that they hire standing where's where's that porn? It's not on porn hub. That tends to be a full service job. So it's Martin Freeman and a character whose name is just Judy and she's credited in the Oh no, I guess like the gimmick here is that they're shy and they're afraid to like ask each other l even though they're like miming Fallacio and each other and stuff. And she's they're naked, like she's full naked. Yeah, she's like bouncing on his like dick at one point, but they're too shy to actually ask each other for coffee. And oh again, just another like this is supposed to be one of the funny ones and it's just it's yeah, and that sits it and that's all it is, Like that's the whole thing, that's the whole scene. They just every scene we see them in a more graphic sexual position, and them talking about the books they've read, and that's not even They talk about traffic at one point like I don't even know again another and they fall in love. But I do wonder, like I looked at us and I'm like, oh, that's probably kick them one two days to yeah, they probably made a lot of money and two days I know you can't. I was going to say, you can't get mad at anyone here because this is the page check. It's it's always a paycheck. But you know, hopefully you saved that money and you can be more discriminating from you. What I'm learning from this movie is that the people you fall in love with are just the ones who are near you. Oh my god. Oh it's totally a proximity game. Absolutely was this before? Oh my god, we're always in the same room. Everyone loves Aristotle. Everyone loves Aristotle. Was this before? I guess this is way before online dating. Of course there is this two thousand and three. Well, I think it existed, but there wasn't. There was no swipe thing at this pot. I think it was still like there was a stigma around ye yes, dot com, but you were a weirdo in the basement. I remember, yeah, wait, do I have to move my car? What's happening? Okay? Oh oh yeah, you drive a Prius. You know how to drive a Prius. Guys, sorry, guys, more druma than is in Love. This is actually way more exciting than the entire movie. What's going to happen Christmas? Everybody? Okay, I get it. We're real people, still real people. To move it, you know, just like everybody else. What do we talk about now that Aristotle's gone? We can say anything? Oh, maybe this is just a route. Maybe he doesn't my car doesn't have to move. Maybe he just has to poop. He took your keys to go and poop in my car? You pooped in my car? No, I think he went to poop in the bathroom with the cricket. That's yeah, that's a good cover. I'm not gonna take to take you a long time and seriously, wow, wows, I'll use that one one time. I really will love. Actually, do we have anything else to say about that? The chable one? I think, yeah, I don't think I had any other nuts on that one. Do we have left we have? Mark? I think? Is this character's name the guy from Walking Down. This is like the iconic who doesn't speak. Does how many words you say in the whole movie? Heeping? Yeah? I know that this one. They're trying to make this one so romantic and it's supposed to be, like it's not. It's just creepy parodied like this, just like because that scene became so iconic somehow, where he's like, it's a rip off of say anything basically, like, but it's also a rip off of you know, subterranean homes like blues. Basically, that's what that is. That's Bob Dylan with It's a Bob Dylan video where he just stands with the yeah and that's his whole song, like and it's so early seventies. I met Richard Curtis, the director, it was like, it's oh much, but I'm saying, this is the whole case, the whole thing. It's Cure Nightly and her lovely husband and you know we see them right it's at the wedding and we find out that Um Walking Dead is best friends and he's also taken the wedding video and then she goes to see it and the most the most exciting thing about this whole scene is that she mentions banoffie pie. Have you had Boffell? I didn't know. God, it's caramel banana pie. Everybody look into it and get into it. That's the only That's what I have to tell you from this whole movie. But Affie, my stuff just lift. What do you get so romantic? I tell you know. There was a little place, um, there was a little place in the grove actually that um called Simple Santa. Yes, it's called Simple Things. It's in the you know, it's in the Yeah, it's it does fabulous sandwiches. But they used to do a bonoffy pie there that Oh my god. A friend took me and I've I've it's one of those ones that I had like three years ago and I still think about it sometimes, one of those of you're just like, but yeah, anyway, So that's the highlight of that scene. My favorite part of the entire movie is when they played Titanic and it's just the other movie happening in this movie, because that's the best. I can't Titanic because I feel like that would be a three hour special because I think it's beautiful, dude. My favorite part of okay, quick Titanic. I have read the script to Titanic like the way James Cameron wrote it, and he is a perfect There's a scene, the sex scene in the car. I remember because I read it when I was like thirteen. I was like, it says like, and this is so like Victorian romance novel. He says like Jack gets on top of Rose and she flourishes under his welcome weight. I was like, whoa what flourishes under his welcome I was like, who has ever flourished under someone's welcome That sounds like your first day at wait watchers. Here's my welcome way. It's just so great. That's so gross. Oh I love that little that's scene. We never would have known that, but now we go. No, I might be the only person besides James Cameron. Yeah, that's that's nice anyway. Okay, okay, so what did you what do you have to say about this one? Because this is a you know, well number one. So they show him being really mean to her, Yes, she doesn't. He pretends like he doesn't like her. Yeah, and I'll get into that Khaki ship like come on, yeah, it's god. Yeah, their their wedding and Laura, Lenny's there because guess what, guys, they're all connected. Yeah, and she sees him like staring at them dancing like the Mary couple dancing, and she's like, do you love him? And he's like what. She's like, you know, it's not maybe might love him. I just want to ask a question. And he's like absolutely not, no way, no way in hell, gross no. And it's like, okay, you're he's well, he talking very being dismissive of the fact that he might be that she was suggesting that he was in love with her husband because it's two three, Yeah, queer eyes. So there's a few other instances of like some subtle homophobia. I sort of assumed that that would be the case for any two thousand three movie, and feel like these are the waning years where people make gay jokes in mainstream films and it's like, this is funny. We cap out and I now pronounce you Chuck and Larry two hour Engage. It always bugged me that there was no like a depiction of a gay yeah characters. Yeah, statistically there would be yeah, absolutely to yeah, but we don't see that, right, So he yeah, he's being very dismissive that someone suggests that he might be gay. Horrified. Yeah, he's very, very disgusted by it. Now I feel like that is more like this whole thing, like he loves his best friend's wife is more of a cheat than Alan Rickman even buying a present for what I mean, that would that would and your I would be like, we're not friends anymore like you he I mean he is. He is obsessed over his best friends, right, and and the way she reacts because she like granted, she like extends in all of branch and it's like, oh, let's be friends, but it doesn't seem like she is. But she kisses him right after he does the whole thing. He shows up at the door and says, you know, I'll always love you, and then she runs out and she's like, this is you know, because you missed out, So she gives him a pity kiss, but it's still like honestly, it's still more and she's just been married. They're like, they're like three weeks married, you guys are, but like I got we don't know when I saw that scene where like when kier And Nightly kisses him, like you bet you just want the attention the only but that's the only thing I could think of, because they don't like she doesn't seem to particularly. She's like, I want to be friends with my husband's friend, even though I know he's declared as that. Wouldn't you be like come and wouldn't you be like no, stop and then go away. I'm okay, maybe I'm stupid, but I would go in and I would say to my husband, your best friend just totally hit on me and told me they loves me. And I would tell scary video of me on our wedding day that we I think we paid him to do the video. He only took footage of me, I mean. And then all she says is, oh, I look very pretty. Okay, first of all, take it down or not tonight? Like you know what I'm saying, But you know, but I don't know. I don't know if other women would keep that quiet, but I would. I would be like, yeah, I would you keep acquired? Would you tell your husband? No? I would. I wouldn't tell I want to put that scene on YouTube with horror movie playing and be like that would that would be scary for me? If I'm like that was four three years later, he rapes her like there's no way. Okay, maybe that was a jump that, but she's dead somewhere and that's all we know. And don't like, don't kiss that man, because now he's never going to let it go. I know, I just I just think the kiss was super super unnecessary, right, well, the way, like the way his love for her is also I know, well it's like also extremely cartoonishly represented because he loves her so like why why why number one? Number two? If when he knows that his best friend is marrying her, he needs to work on himself and get yes, he needs to do something. Yeah. The fact that he just allows himself to keep loving her from in absolutely is borderline insane. Yeah, he's insane because again we know that they're trying to make this this big romantic like unrequited love, and it's like, no, it's it's really not. It's it's weird. And you're right, he's a grow man. Get over it, you know, seek some therapy and and find yourself your own girl. And if I can't get over it, then stop hanging out with them. Yeah, exactly, move Like I just I tried to contextualize this with anyone i'd ever dated friend, and I just like I would tell someone right away. I would be so freaked out, like and I I, and this is what's so like damaging, and I feel like it results in all these creepy love moves from men in real life. Is like that, this is like, oh, this is how you do it exactly. And then someone saying like sends you a creepy mix tape about your feet and you're just like, what the fund is this? And they're like, oh, I thought you'd like you Like, No, I don't like it. It's about my feet. That's just a little slice in my own life. There's it's not specifics. Oh my god, I do love that. I love that scene where like he runs outside and he's like blowing off the steam because she just discovered that he loves her. And they're like, I think it's an Enya song or something, and it's so the music is so dated, and he's just like he keeps like spinning around. He's like, do I go back doing? And he like stomps around and then like, oh god, it's so dumb. I just I was like, who can relate with this? Just like yeah, I don't know, it's it's rare, it's and then well, the other thing is like shows how insane, like the fact that he just treats her like absolute garbage, which is the whole thing. If you're if you're watching that's what younger exactly, if young boys are watching this, they are you know, they don't have a chance. So okay, so you like a girl, so twitter like garbage to hide your feelings and lie to your best friend and then follow her and spy on her, and it's just the whole thing is weird. The whole thing is weird. It's like, oh, I hope, I hope young men aren't watching this or young women. To be honest, yeah yeah please yea god. I kept put myself in like if I watched that scene to I was not a man to do this for exactly. I want him to spin around to a yeah yeah, but you don't know, probably at eleven you would have, like, seriously, at eleven years old, you might think he loves to be so much, and it's it's so deluded and crazy. I used to watch a ton of these movies. I loved Matthew McConaughey when I was younger, Like the Wedding planner is my face. I was like, I want to plan matth, you know. I was like, this is how it happens and that's so plan Oh my god, that was a quote. I'm so so Harry. It's so it's so awful gross. Okay, what next one? So the next storyline after that is uh, Hugh Grant of the Prime Minister and his caters, like not too dissimilar from the secretary thing. It's just like, oh, you're inferior. What I am is that is that his thing is niche first of all, when he dances, and is this the one that he dances? Right? That makes I wanted to cry that. I was like so sad for him and this. I was like, really, they make him dance in the office and they're to be cheeky and he's also yeah, but oh my god, and when you actually watch him dancing, you're like, this is the whitest, yeah, most horrible. What is like here? What is like something good he's done? I don't know, can you think of one? Honestly, I always confuse Colin Firth and Grant. I'm like, like Colin first the good, but you don't know. I think I think I think he had like there's an old British movie that apparently he was amazing in and then we all just don't know about it. There has to be because you know, even even Three Weddings and a Funeral, it's really nothing same written by the same guy as Actually God, no wonder also that either I didn't like it either, by the way, and everyone loved that movie, and I was just like, I don't see why everyone's going so crazy over that movie. Never liked it. So I think that that's why Hugh. That's why I think Hugh Grant is in this movie. It's because it's the same writer. Because of this man. Yeah, seriously, there anything else anything. Most of his career have been like rom com. Yeah, absolutely well. He was also in another Richard Curtis movie, Notting Hill Julie Roberts, which is another weirdly sexist Britain every Oh no, that's saying that. Um let's see. He was in Bridget Jones. Oh yeah, he's been in every Richard Curtis movie. That's Oh my gosh, Richard Curtis. He was in Cloud Alice. I don't know if he's ever done anything good. He was in Sense and Sensibility the one with Kate Winslet. Oh that's right, that's maybe that was his jumping off point. But it's like I just don't every time I see him, like, why are you? Why do we know you? Yeah, why do we know you? Why are you around? Like you're not. You could usually you could be like, oh, Kean isn' ship because he was in the Matrix, right, but like he is, like what, yeah, how did you do it? Like there's never been Oscar buzz around Hugh Grant, Like that's never happened. Anybody's just British American women just gobbled enough, which Britain is a calling Firth or Hugh Grant, who is in that Amanda bind movie from two thousand to call What a Girl Wants okay, because I love that movie that I wanted okay, never saw it. I think we don't watch any of the same types of that I've only seen like okay movies and I've seen The Jinks eight times. That's like I watched it last week and it's like, well, because that news came out where he released to stevement Robert, he was like, yeah, everything I said in that series, I was high on meth. I was like, oh, I gotta watch it again, and I did and I threw mathighs. I'm going to his trial anyways, oh my god. Really well, he's like being tried in Pasadena in February, and so it's in my calendar. I want to go. Anyone can go. It's like, you can go. I'm gonna get dug In Donuts and go real early. Oh god, if you should follow you around with you if ever you guys want to come, though, like might be into that. I was trying to. I was like, right, I was like, and then we can just like have a chat. But it's hard to not like, I wouldn't want to reach out to the wrong person and say, do you want to go to Roberts trial with me? Because because he is probably a murderer. Well he is a murderer, absolutely with killed them, of course a murderer. Anyways, February's interesting romantic time of yeard. We can all get horny for he wears a neck brace. Now pure yeah okay, sorry. So most of the jokes on this storyline, or just mentions of anything, are that she is fat. Yeah, this gorgeous girl is fat. Her boyfriend broke up with because she's fat. So basically what they're telling everyone in the world is fat women don't deserve love. And again, please just look at her for one minute. She is not fat. Yeah, it's like she's like the Hollywood Yeah really, and and then it's you know, then the whole thing is that you know, he's the prime minister and she is an underling, and you know they hook up, and that's I'm pretty sure against the rules. But I don't know what goes on. So well that evolved like the heatero romantic relationships, it's almost always between like a man in like a lot more power. And then that's subordinate because none of the women, yeah, none of the women in this movie. If if we even know what their jobs are, it's usually a cleaning lady. Laura Lenny. I think she's the only one that seems to be that we don't even know what her I just assume that she was on the same level as Carl. Yeah, that's yeah, that's it. But it's like, what is Carl creative? He was like a graphic design Yeah, somebody, I don't know. It was big. It's weird. Yeah, yeah, it's a lot like the men, like Alan Rickman is the boss or whatever company that is. There's a male prime minister. It's all these men in like positions of power and authority. And then it's a bunch of women who are like homemakers or cleaning ladies or maids. Yeah, and it's another like I was anticipating so many like super basic rom com trupes. I'm well versed in round Concert. It's like, it's weird that I haven't seen this movie, but I was expecting, you know, with this many storylines. I'm like, oh, there's going to be like a like a herald and mod kind of thing. They're going to invert it and there's going to be one younger man older but that never nebit. It's the same thing over and overno thing. There's no Yeah, there could be a lesbian couple. Why not have that, right, let's throw this and like there. But they had so many opportunities to do it and they had to do it, and they just like, Nope, it's just going to be a bunch of straight white people. I bet they thought they were using each other. I bet they thought they were so progressive to have like an interracial marriage. You know. It was another high five. Yeah, he's only going to say like three words the entire movie, and he's the cock and he's the but you know with a white guy, like absolutely, oh yeah, the one interracial marriage is ruined by a white male psychopath. I'm just thinking about the Prime Minister one again. And then of course they bring in the American Billy Bob Thornton. Am I wrong? And depiction of Americans are terrible? But not at all? But if you need to choose someone to depict a sleezy American, can he your go to? He is your go to? He does the job, and just play the president. Am I wrong? He does? Okay, so I didn't. Basically that is a that was foretelling. We didn't know this, but that was basically he's Donald Trump in it, Like he's basically much more attractive and less stupid and disgusting and horrible. Let's not go there. I can't right now. Yeah, I got music, um, and yeah, and he makes a move, he grabs her ass or something and yeah, and then and then he's of course he stands up for her because he loves her, and well that was enough for you Grant to be like, she shouldn't have a job with me? Anymore. Yeah, because he walked in on like like yeah, he like he fired devotes her or whatever for that publishment for the President of the United States hitting on you exactly demoted girl who didn't ask for this and who was the one being assaulted, but yeah, you get your job taken away and away. If I were her, I would have been like, yeah, American president sucked me right now. I don't care if the Prime minister's in the next room. If he walks in, I'll be like your next buddy. After this, we're gonna fun. Let's have a three sum and then any kalin. I'm just in control of my sexuality. I would be like, can I just like escape through a window, or like hide under a curvet or call this c I a yes, someone get Billy bobbed from my body? Well I would, I mean, I would only do that his welcome wife, I am not. Oh my god, that language. He was still married to what's her name, the director of the hurt Locker, Catherine Bigelow Bigelow, I'm like, is this does she flourish under his welcome away? He always hated him. I always hated James anyway. Terminator two is a fantastic movie. Okay, everyone everyone has a good link. But I don't get him as a man. He seems like it's just like a dork, doesn't he just really like dork is his word? Yeah, like a dork who read a lot of fame fiction when he was younger. And now he's like, now you can make hot people do what I want. Yeah, Like, there's no way he didn't write fan faction, Like, there's no way. Right, I don't like Avatar me neither. Okay, on the next one, so there's well, there's a couple of I think we're on, we're not. There's a cup lines of dialogue. The Prime Minister is talking to one of his staff members. Yes, and he's like, oh, you know Natalie who works here, and she's like the chubby girl. I know. Okay, first of all, she's the one who introduced Natalie. I know, you know what her name is. And then he goes, what I call her chubby Yeah, and she's like there's a pretty sizeable ask this huge thighs and it's like you're talking about someone you work with to the minister, the Prime Minister, you have time to documentary diploma. Seriously, this is what we do at that. This is what we're doing in the whatever house they live in, you know that, Yeah, and this is that, this is this is what we're talking about that and then and it's a woman and woman also like tearing down another woman that way. It's like really in that moment, I was like, what's this movie made? During like Lewinsky air but it was years after you had no reason for it. And then at the very very end, whenever the Prime Minister is coming out of the gate at Heathrow because you know, why don't they have an air force one equivalent anyone, anyone? Why is he just walking out like they talk about Heathrow Airport Like there's that happens at the very beginning. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know if they if they bring it back. But he's like walking and she like runs and jumps into his arms and he goes, oh god, you weigh a lot. Yeah, her weight just commented on and she really did. Was never the big man. I mean seriously, he easily you know, caught her. It's just gross. And also you're right, like no that would they wouldn't like have shot her down or at least billy clubbed her down. I mean seriously, you can just run up to the come on again, why is he not using a private jet? And like whenever he knocks on like a hundred different doors. She works for you. You have her tax form somewhere with her address on. Also, you the prime minister. You can figure out where anyone lives. Why did he go? It was so stupid? Oh okay about it. The last storyline is Carla, which the thing that really bugged me about this is that she puts the needs of another man before her own. That drove me crazy. And I know it's her brother and stuff and the crazy. Yes, he's he's mentally ill, but he's at a he's at a hospital, he's cared for. He's not just sitting by himself at home. He's at a hospital with attendance. And yet she has to be the one to give over her entire life. And yes, okay, are we awful people? I don't know? Are we? Probably? No? I mean, you have to like fulfill your life and desires. Come on, sometimes there could have been some sort of balance struck because like all this, this whole fucking movie is about like women having to sacrifice their dignity or like Meg extreme compromise to meet like a philandering person in like Beyond the Middle, and so like when you see her do that, like she's the only female character, you're like, oh, she has a job that isn't nine dollars an hour. And then it's like, oh, nope, she's stuck too. I was really excited, like whenever she starts making out with this guy who she's been pining over in like a probably kind of creepy way, but like we've all done that. They don't, we don't. They don't reveal that she like spies on him or anything. Everyone in the office as a crush. She keeps it together. Yeah, it's not like a Mark video. No. Yeah, and she's not mean to him, you know, she's like, hi, Carl, Carl apparently tried to keep it together. It's cute. She's actually does it pretty well. It's cute crush. But then as soon as they like start making up and getting and then like she's like, no, my brother's calling, even though he's in a hospital on other people take care of them. I have to talk to him. I have to choose this moment to talk to him on the phone and not have you inside. She's half naked. She's half naked inside exactly, and she's like, I have to take the call now, like let it go, turn off your ringer and you know what I mean, come on eighteen minutes later. That's how we gotta do. Say you were in the tunnel and that's love. But yeah, it's it is. It's just very much just like give over And is that love? Really? I mean that's you know, that's she loves her brother so much that she gives up her own desires. I mean, not right, And I will say again what the three things that I enjoyed this movie is the ending when they're at the airport and everyone they do the montage with the song and everybody, you know, then you're they're watching people greet each other at the airport. Literally probably I think the only thing that makes you just go because it's not it is watching people greet each other at the airport is lovely. It is it is. It is coming to running into each other's someone who is almost never greeted at they ever, never never my entire life, and just like Nell and trudges out and I'm just I'm just sweaty and where's my bag? And don't touch me and yeah, yeah, yeah, right, like it seems nice. I've never ever to It's it's fantasy. It's never seen it happen. I've picked someone up from the airport before. Yeah, yeah, but you never like park your car and go wait if they're like gate right, you just will did but really about my feets? Never again. So the thing is is that this movie is about relationships, yet there are almost no women on women relationships. Yeah, there's no friend relationships in this and I have cataloged all of the instances where women talk to each other and or are near each other. Given given the number of women in this movie, it's absurd how few there are. Yeah. So the first one we see is Emma Thompson talking to her daughter about the Christmas pageant and how she's a lobster that technically passes the bed. It last ten to fifteen seconds, but it does, it does pass. The next one is when they were in the British White House. Whatever, I can't I'm at a loss for some reason. Natalie kind of turns to the older housekeeper woman. She's like, oh, did you see what I did? In referencing the fact that she swore in front of the Prime Minister. It's barely audible and it lasts about two seconds, but it does it count if she doesn't respond. Really, these are just instances where they actually they're near each other and talked to each other, just don't know. It depends because yeah, it's like we we've we've gone through this whole thing to every were like which version of the backtle sy story using? Because I don't think that that other has she doesn't have any. Either way, the point that I will be arriving at is that the movie is two hours and fifteen minutes long, and there's lemon then like three minutes of women interacting with each other during the entire thing. You know what else, even even with the Bill night his story is about him being his best friend, his manager, which is they gave that to the men to which is so unlikely, Like, of course men have friendships, but it's like we all know you know where then where Yeah, you would assume that you would give that, but no you can't too. That's like I mean, it's like a broken trust of male friendship, but it's still like a very strong male bond that's established and they don't get they don't make obviously we know, we've already established there are no lesbians, there's no homosexuals, there's nothing. But they don't even they don't even represent like female friendship, which is all. I can't believe that that's discussing two hours in fifteen minutes. Yeah, there's a few more. There's um, I guess, I guess, Ugly Colin. He probably has the most girls talking to each other. That scene does lass longest, But at no point did they ever actually talked to each other each other. They're they're talking to him beside each other, and that wasn't in furious because I was waiting for that, yeah, until I was like, oh, there's going to be a small but there isn't. It would have been the sexy one came in and said, what are you all doing? You idiots? Let's go back to college. Yeah, I want to put the girl and like the other girls, didn't it to be like guys are because she's not wearing a tummy shirt, like she has proper underpants on. She's wearing a flannel and briefs. And she's like, we've got model you in you just described me. But anyway, literally it's time to go to model you. We gotta go. There's a scene where Laura Lenny asks me to turn down the music that lasts about four seconds. It technically passes the test, I think, but maybe not even There's a scene where the woman is introducing Aurelia to Colin Firth, being like, this is your new cleaning lady, but doesn't pass the test because they don't talk to each other. She only talks to Colin Firth about her. There's the we get a few different shots of Bill little NIE's music video, which is just women. There's just a shot of a woman's breasts. At some point there's a woman who did maybe playing the drums, and her legs are just like completely spread eagle for no reason. And then the rest of the women are just like licking their lips the entire time. That's how it so they are. Those women are near each other, but again they don't they don't speak. They're mostly salivating over themselves. Old man Richard Curtis is a perfect I feel so strongly about how much I dislike him. The more we read about him, the matter I get. Yeah, I want to hear what you find. Can I ask is this basically? Is this the average for every movie that you've discussed so far a very bad. I think that a lot like some that we do, don't pass, but they're usually older and they usually have far less female characters, So I think this is probably this is a lot of female characters and just barely passes. They're scene where Emma Thompson is talking to Natalie when they're at like the school play, but there does not pass the test because they are talking about the Prime Minister who's standing right there. They're just seeing where Natalie is talking to. She says something to her mom whenever the Prime Minister shows up at the door, and she's just like, too much detailed, mom, that's a line it. Emma Thompson talks to her daughter after the school pageant about being an orange lobster. I guess that passes, but like it kind of happens sort of off screen even and then Aurelia's sister tells her not to marry Colin for us, she's just like marry someone else, and it does not pass because they're talking about a man. So in the two hours and fifteen minutes this movie lasts, there's thirty seconds where women are passing the Bechdel tests. Having a conversation where they're talking about something other than a man. Every single other scenes or conversation is either two men talking to each other or a woman talking to a man, or even less frequently, two women talking to each other, but it's about a man. So it's pitiful attack having Can I can I talk about Richard Curtis a little because I need to execute him immediately. Okay, So a brief rund out of what he's written Four Weddings in the Funeral. Haven't seen it. It's probably not good to probably, and I don't remember very well. I just remember not liking it. He's a co writer of Bridget Jones Diary, which is an adaptation but is consistently very condescending to the protagonists of like she's kind of fat and kind of dumb, like and that's the whole character. So that was his and her friend. Yeah, it's just I don't know if you worked on a sequel. Space and then love actually awful. Uh. And then he did this movie that I did see for some reason, called The Girl in the Cafe and it has Bill Night and a very young woman fucking each other and it's supposed to be nice. Uh. And then he did that movie about pirate radio that is all men and slutty women, and that was in two thousand nine. And then he wrote war Horse, which I think is very funny, just because like who knows, I'm I don't want to see war Horse, but I don't think it doesn't sound like a feminist master. And then the last one I haven't seen. It's a movie called Trash. And that is how I feel about Richard Curtis. He's a cock. He is sixty years old, and I hope that he contracts something. He's a vile man. He would have infected my eleven year old brain with some funked up ship. Oh god, Okay, I feel better. We gotta wrap up so because I have to go to work downstairs. A nerd nelt but we is there any final, any final thoughts about this movie that we want to know. I'm not surprised. I knew, like when we when you suggested that. When I saw it on the list, I was pretty exciting, so I was like, oh, this is gonna be good. But I have to tell you when you break it down like that, I'm actually a little shocked. I don't I don't know why. I just don't love it. I am. I mean it is, but even just like hearing like thirty seconds it's it's it's shocking to me. I didn't realize how bad and it's it's super bad. I want to watch it again, just because I was like pulling away by how much I didn't like it. This is one of those movies it just does not hold up, but it is really beloved, like it is a beloved Christmas movie. They put it up there with you know, like every oh we watch sound to music, it's a wonderful life and love actually, And I'm like, well it's yeah, it's a crazy cap yeah, and as there's like the other movie I always associated with, like oh, this one doesn't hold up, but they loved it at the time is American Beauty. But I feel like people are a little more forthcoming with like, oh that movie is pretty perverted and like, but people loved it at the time. Love actually, almost like people people still stand by it time. Yeah, I'm saying like, I feel like we're gonna people are gonna be like, how could you say that about Yeah, they love this movie. I think it's just because it's it's under the veil of Christmas and people hot over it looking at hot straight people. But yeah, but I don't think any surprises here. I think this is we sort of knew coming into this and each episode by rating the movie and in the context of its portrayal of its female characters on a scale of zero to five, nipples five being five being very good, your best number of nipples to have. Yeah, good, dispair tire. So yeah, I'm gonna give it half a nipple. Yeah, Yeah, that's it, okay, just because I don't feel like giving it a complete zero because some of these actresses, you know, they got paychecks, so I'm assuming all of them got probably not as big as the male counter, but I hope they gave some of it. I give it a half nipple, as Will did did nipple. I give it also I'm gonna go also with a half nipple, and it belongs to ugly Colin. Yeah. Simple. It just had so many opportunities to portray women so much better than it did, and it just failed on every single front. Rest in peace, bury it burn it by forever um. So yeah, thank you so much for being here. Wonderful. Where can people find you online if they want to follow? Yeah? This comes out this week. Oh yeah, my full name on Twitter, because you can find everything out on Twitter, you know, and it's I can't believe I didn't do like a little moniker, but it's my full name. It's I'm sorry for that, but yeah, there we go. It's good, it's good, it's easiest. Well, I'm now eight minutes late. I'm kinda thank you so much. Yes, thank you so much for being here. Fuck love. Actually, actually I got a Santa to attract under Santa, Happy holidays everyone, all right,
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