2025-02-18- KSR - Hour 1
Matt, Ryan, Drew, and Shannon talk UK's loss to Texas, injury updates, and take your calls.
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00:00:00 Speaker 1: Comedy Up Broadway in Lexington. Welcomes Dale Jones February fourteenth and fifteenth, Then catch Lucas and Selnik February twenty first and twenty second, and don't miss club favorite Ian Bag February twenty seventh through March first. Comedy Up Broadway opened and downtown Lexington in nineteen eighty seven, and they're still bringing the best in stand up comedy to the area thirty eight years later. Call eight five nine two seven to one joke or visit Comedy Up Broadway dot com day. 00:00:31 Speaker 2: This is Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. 00:00:34 Speaker 3: Now here's Matt Jones. 00:00:37 Speaker 4: Well, welcome everyone. It is Kentucky Sports Radio, Tuesday, February eighteenth. I am Matt Jones here in Dallas, Texas. Where as soon as this show is over, I'm going to be flying back to Kentucky and be there all week getting ready for the game tomorrow against Vanderbilt at home. You give chalon Clock's Puppy Shop full line eight five to nine two eighth twenty two eighty seven. A Vision Auto glass text machine is seven seven two four five two five four In this edition sponsored by the TJ. Smith love. As you call TJ, He'll make them pay. Ryan and Drew are in Lexington, Shannon is in Louisville. Guys. Yesterday was President's Day where I went back and listened a little bit to the show the day after Pope was hired, and it was, I will say, Ryan, just as entertaining as I thought it would be to go back and hear our reactions. A couple things stuck out to me. I forgot how Ryan negative. Shannon the dude was the next morning, like I'd forgotten. Shannon, you you were, I mean we all were worrisome. Yeah, you were pretty negative, and then by the end you were positive. I think you should be studied as to how you changed your mind in two hours. 00:01:50 Speaker 2: Well, honestly, that's how I felt that morning. I go, man, we just ran off a Hall of Fame coach for this guy who hasn't even won a game in the NCAA tournament. But then you hear, you know, Mitch Barnhart come on, and I think of Barnhardt's interview, which I think might be his most important interview he's ever done on KSR that morning to sort of flip the fan base and make everybody positive. 00:02:07 Speaker 3: About the higher I. 00:02:08 Speaker 4: Think it's I think it's one of the best PR things he's ever done. Period. I mean, I you know, I I've never really thought him to be great at PR, but I thought he was that morning. But listening to it, and I did listen to most of the show, Ryan, it really is a fascinating case study in group think being changed in a short period of time. 00:02:29 Speaker 5: I'm telling you something. That show was amazing. 00:02:32 Speaker 6: I was listening to it yesterday and I, even though I knew the result, I couldn't quit listening to it. Every caller that came in. I forgot about this. We were expecting a lot of negative calls. It was positive after positive after positive. I'd forgotten that the kid called in that played for Pope, he was good. Jack Gibbons, that's. 00:02:49 Speaker 4: Right, Yes, I missed that part yesterday. The kid at Georgia that played for him, that's right. 00:02:53 Speaker 6: Yeah, he called in and he was good, giving some updates where it's like kind of a coach he is, and then Jack called in at the end. 00:02:59 Speaker 5: But you yeah, all right. 00:03:00 Speaker 6: Mitch Barnhardt's interview maybe the best thing he's ever done as far as a PR goes, because it was fantastic. 00:03:07 Speaker 4: Well, I don't know if we need that level of pr today, Drew, but there is I think some frustration in the fan base after the game Saturday night. We haven't been on the air since the game. Ryan was on a little bit on the postgame show. But you know, Drew, I think the frustrating part about that game is not even the loss, although you wanted to win. It's that you're up for four minutes to go and then just kind of four minutes of a collapse. I mean not just losing, but losing, you know, by seven points, and just looking unable to do anything in the last few minutes. Mental mistakes, turnovers. It's just I'm not sure that last four minutes Drew could have gone much worse. 00:03:54 Speaker 7: No, that was pretty terrible and hard to watch. I felt good about that game all week. I felt good about that game for thirty five minutes of the game, and then at the end it's just the the flip the switch to off, and everything was going wrong, and it's you know, they're obviously very hurt by not having a primary ball handler. They can't get in the flow of their offense, but that doesn't excuse like that inbounds where you just stare at the ball or giving up offensive rebounds on free throws. There was just like a almost seems like a mental collapse between everyone. They couldn't do anything right. It was just mistake after mistake after mistake. 00:04:25 Speaker 4: Do you think there's just ride like not a leader or something. I mean, I you know the turnover that every everybody focuses on that possession at seventy four seventy or where the Perry makes a turnover, and then on the on the inbound pass. But you know we were there was a seven point swing before that where it just didn't look like Kentucky was able to get off a good shot. I mean Brea you know Breya takes a huge deep three. Now, of course he's made those shots before, so it's hard to get frustrated at the shot, but then not getting the rebound. I mean, Amari played pretty well, but that was a pretty bad rebound to give it. Well, what do you think is the call was the cause there? As it fell apart, I. 00:05:09 Speaker 5: Think you kind of hit on it. 00:05:10 Speaker 6: There was nobody out there to kind of shake, take charge and rally the troops and get them back in line. Because it was just collapsing in front of our eyes, and nobody stepped up and tried to stop. 00:05:20 Speaker 5: The bleeding, you know, not blocking out on a free throw. 00:05:23 Speaker 6: Andrew Carr threw one of the stands, bad shots, bad turnovers. 00:05:27 Speaker 5: I mean, it was just a total collapse. 00:05:29 Speaker 6: And I think if Butler was healthy, he may have been, you know, somebody out there and kind of stopped the bleeding a little bit. 00:05:35 Speaker 4: You know, he talked about not having Butler doesn't really hurt you necessarily in less of team pressures intensely, which Texas does not, but maybe Drew it hurts you in the last few minutes because the idea that anyone can kind of get the offense going maybe is not the case when the team is completely locked in, like defensively as Texas was those last couple minutes. 00:06:01 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it was obvious they were missing some leadership. I mean, a Mario is your best player. But respectful to Mario, he doesn't speak like Pope even says that he gave a pregame speech a few weeks ago. Pope said his two sentences and that was it. I mean, he's just not going to be the guy to call everyone in a huddle and get on him about doing things. You know, Kobe Brea, you kind of want him to be that guy, but he was too busy going, oh for six. I don't know if for that moment he's he's looking to rally the troop. Travis Perry, a true freshman, probably uncomfortable in that spot already. They just needed someone to kind of get everybody together and say, hey, we were up five, let's not blow this. But instead it just was one after another, all system failure in the last three minutes and forty five seconds. 00:06:40 Speaker 4: Up five with the ball, I mean, and before the four minute time out. I mean that's a I think our win percentage chance at that point Shannon was eighty six percent on the and that's even on the road, So I mean, you let it slip away? Ultimately, does it Does it matter? 00:06:58 Speaker 1: It? 00:06:58 Speaker 4: Maybe matters a little bit. You were projected to be the three seed. I think if they did it now, it's probably four, maybe even five. The schedule coming up is four winnable games and then two games. It's gonna be really hard to win. But you could also, Shannon, you could lose all those games. Right, there's not a I think LSU at home. I feel like is a without Butler and Robinson. I don't know that you can look at any game and say it's certain, which is why getting that win was such a big deal to me. If they had gotten it on Saturday. 00:07:31 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Alabama, Auburn, I mean, I'm just gonna go ahead. 00:07:33 Speaker 3: And write those off as losses. 00:07:35 Speaker 2: Oklahoma on the road, that's not gonna be easy, Missouri coming up LSU. You feel like that's a you win that game, and you you got to get Vanderbilt Tomorrow night. 00:07:43 Speaker 3: I mean that's a huge game now all of the time. 00:07:45 Speaker 4: Tomorrow night's a huge game. Yeah, huge game. I mean I think tomorrow night, you know, we said this, what was it for South Carolina and they won and won relatively easily. But Ryan, I think, but we had our full roster. People forget during that game. I think Ryan, tomorrow night is massive. I mean, I'm going to assume Butler doesn't play. I think we got to talk about what Robinson situation is going to be for the rest of the year. But regardless, I mean, tomorrow night, Ryan must win, right. 00:08:18 Speaker 6: Especially since you know they got you at Vanderbilt when you didn't play very well. 00:08:22 Speaker 5: At all. 00:08:23 Speaker 6: So now you got them on your home court. Kind of man up man trying to win these games. You gotta, you know, protect your home court, beat a team like Vanderbilt's. 00:08:30 Speaker 4: But do we have enough to win? Do we have enough to win those games? 00:08:33 Speaker 6: Because it sounded like last night Pope said, you know, Butler has not practiced at all, Robinson hasn't done anything since he hurt that. 00:08:40 Speaker 4: So win those games. Yes. 00:08:43 Speaker 7: It just beat Tennessee by eleven in Repperend with that same roster, I think they'll. 00:08:47 Speaker 4: Be all right. 00:08:48 Speaker 7: It's clear though Layton games when they don't have their offense, they are missing a point guard badly. Travis Perry just started the game, played pretty well. Didn't hate him in that role early, but at the end of the game he just he was it. He's not the leader then the floor general they need in those moments when a game's tight and the pressure's on like that on the road, I kind of wondered. 00:09:06 Speaker 4: I kind of thought Pope maybe should make the Noah switch. There were only that. There was only like two instances in that game. I got frustrated with Pope. One was not playing Noah down the stretch. I mean they did it against Tennessee. I think it would have been good to do. And then second, I mean, I don't know how many times I have to say this, Drue, but the line change has got to stop. I mean we got off to what wasn't what was our start? Eight oh six to zero? What was the start it was? And then line change again and the next thing, you know, it's a tie game. Why do we insist on doing that? It has not worked at any point this year. 00:09:41 Speaker 7: Yeah, I can I remember Travis Perry hit into three early to go up nine to two. Texas took a time out. I can't remember if the line change was right there when. Yeah, it was media time coming out. But I mean you were, you were playing well, had a good lead. Even with Travis Perry making his first start, he wasn't hurting you. In fact, I just said he was helping you hit the three to add to the run. And then you make the big switch. I don't understand because Pope came up in the Patino conditioning where you hear about guys throwing up in trash cans, and that's what Patino's known for, and that's obviously his mentor. But then it's like, can no one play more than. 00:10:14 Speaker 4: Again? To one guy, I just don't understand the desire to put a swarm. We are not good enough to put four reserves in it once, and especially when we're playing well. I just I don't get it, and it has not worked. I would love to see our plus minuses, Ryan, on the second four minutes of each half. It's gotta be minus infinity because we start these halves usually pretty good and then here comes the line. And he's a smart guy, he has to see that analytically. He was asked about it before the Texas game and he was like, yeah, I think we're gonna do it more. And it was the first time I heard a little cow stubbornness any Ryan. And I was like, now, wait a minute. Mark. If the numbers say don't work, don't just double down on it. And it didn't work again in another game. 00:11:06 Speaker 6: I didn't hear that. But I don't like hearing that because, like you said, why not just rotate them one at a time. I know you want to get some guys, you know, get a couple of minutes in, get them, you know, knock the rust off before it's a casing him late in the game, do them one at a time, they'll do all three. 00:11:19 Speaker 5: But he's do you think he's got some. 00:11:22 Speaker 6: Analytics on his side, that's why he's doing this, because he's definitely obvious. 00:11:25 Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, I don't know if he does. If he does, I'd love to see it. All I know is what the score is when they come in and when they don't. But you know, maybe there's something I'm not seeing. I'd love to hear what it is. So let's talk about the injuries. So listening to Pope. Pope with injuries is hard to figure out either because I think he almost sometimes makes them, whereas cal I think used to not make them sound as bad and then they were. I sometimes can't tell, Drew if I think Pope makes them sound worse than they are. So it's hard for me to know. I got the sense listening to though we will see Butler before the end of the year. But when he said Jackson Robinson is not using his wrist at all, and then said he's shooting left handed in practice, I don't know that, Drew, that that was the first really made me nervous. Are you do you think there's a world where we don't see Jackson Robinson again. 00:12:23 Speaker 7: I'm expecting him only because I'm to the point where Pope's injury reports are what you just said, everything is the absolute worst. I mean, he made it sound like Andrew Carr was going, you know, going to the hospital to stay there for months, and then he played two weeks later. There's a video of Robinson dribbling in their walk through yesterday, so he's using it a little and that doesn't mean he's shooting, and he's close. So I just I'm having a hard time interpreting Pope. I did like what he said about Butler that he hasn't practiced yet with love play, but it's a matter of, you know, just him kind of playing through it whenever they do need him. That was a little comforting. That sounded like he might be close to the Robinson. But I don't know, want to expect with Robinson. 00:13:01 Speaker 4: Hard for It's just hard for me to read his his injury. I wonder if he's a little bit of a gloomer doom and gloom. I can't really tell. 00:13:11 Speaker 8: Now. 00:13:11 Speaker 4: He did say kerk Krisa can get a medical red shirt. It'll be interesting to see, I assume Pope's going to want him back. It is interesting though, with the roster bringing him back, you can almost argue we have too many point guards. But after this year, Ryan, we need too many point guards, right because we we can't have another year where we don't get point guards. 00:13:31 Speaker 6: Yeah, we're basically playing our fourth point guard right now. Travis Perry kN Jackson has one. So I kind of agree with you guys about Robinson. 00:13:38 Speaker 4: Man. 00:13:38 Speaker 6: You know, they've said they've got three different opinions, which means they did must not have liked what they heard in the first two opinions, and I think I went and got a third opinion. 00:13:45 Speaker 2: I just wonder, like, even if he does come back, and let's say he does play left hand, is a left hand at Robinson better than. 00:13:51 Speaker 3: What you got on the bench. I don't know. I don't think so. 00:13:53 Speaker 4: I mean, well, first so I can't imagine he's gonna come in. He's not gonna play left hand. 00:14:01 Speaker 5: I can't imagine that. 00:14:04 Speaker 4: But like there is a world where he could play, maybe just not be as good as shooter. I think that could happen. But not Pope throwing in he's shooting left handed was weird to me. I don't know if that was supposed to be like a joke, but like I thought he was joking because I said to people, you're joking, okay, people. 00:14:25 Speaker 7: With me, like pope, we're not laughing at Robinson playing left handed, like obviously he's not gonna go play. 00:14:32 Speaker 3: And then hear it, Yeah that's true. 00:14:33 Speaker 4: I didn't hear it. Yeah, that's a great point. I didn't hear it, So I don't know his tone. Maybe somebody that hurt his tone can be more clear. If I'm nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven, text machine is seven seven two four five two five four. Where do you think about what happens? And then let's talk about what it's going to take to get where we need to be in the tournament. Before the game, we found out we were the number ten overall seed, which looked great. We're not that now. So where's this team gonna end up? We'll I can break very back. It's chaos her welcome back. I have to tell you Shannon the the whole. First of all, that's great pick on a music right there, plane leaving bus on a debt from Dallas'. I gotta tell you, you know me and you were not flyers, right, we don't love it, right? Is that fair to say? Yeah? I gotta tell you, it feels like there's a lot more plane stuff going on right now than I Lie. 00:15:28 Speaker 3: Did something happen with a Delta plane over the weekend? 00:15:30 Speaker 4: Yeah, flip, yeah, Now nobody everybody was okay, right, But the video is out this morning. I didn't I didn't see a video yesterday, but it's out this morning. And it just flipped over while it was while it was landing, just completely flipped. And yeah, I don't know, I don't know what's going on. Like, rationally speaking, I'm you know, we hadn't had a crash in like twenty years, and they had I get it rationally, Shannon, But I'm not rational about flying, or I wouldn't be so nervous to begin with. 00:16:07 Speaker 3: No, Right, it only takes one and the wrong one to be on. 00:16:10 Speaker 4: That's exactly right. And so then you see the flip, and then I see like they fired all these like, uh, what do you call traffic controllers? I don't understand. You know what everybody thinks about cutting all these jobs in the government, that's a place I say we get more of them, right, I feel like they need as many of those as we have chances. You get it, Shannon, you and I are on the same thing. I just I don't know what it is, but I'm I'm I'm just a little I see about flights right now. 00:16:38 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want my pilots and my air traffic controllers to have a backup and that backup, to have a backup to that back up exactly. 00:16:45 Speaker 4: This just doesn't feel like the time for us to go. I think we can get rid of some of these people, Like I just you know, this is I don't know so anyway. One person writes, Matt, I think you guys are a little overreacting. We're out without three of our six best players. It happens. Well, yes, at the end of the year, Ryan, I think it's fair for us to as we're judging the season, to look at the injuries and all that. But the reality is we have who we have right now, and like there's no like we might as well talk about what we have. I'm kind of with Pope. Pope. After the game, somebody said something like, well, you don't have your guys, and he said, I don't care, no excuses. We're up five with four minutes to go, you gotta win that game. And I agree with him, Ryan, I mean, ultimately, yes, the reason we're not up fifteen is the fact we don't have everybody. But when you're up five with four minutes to go, you can win that game. You gotta go win it, right, That's my point. So even though it's true we don't have all our guys, you still gotta go win that game. 00:17:43 Speaker 6: You do, And like Drew said, that team beat Tennis, a really good Tennessee team without those two guys, and when you had that lead down at Texas, you got to close it out. And there's we're talking about, you know, fifth year seniors, some veterans, some guys that make some really awful, awful mental mistakes late in the game that just can't happen. 00:18:00 Speaker 4: What person rights, Matt, What do you think is the effect of sixty percent or less Andrew Carr? I think that's a huge thing, Drew, especially offensively. I mean, I think what we've lost with Carr is that he was like a guaranteed fifteen points a game. And I've said this a bunch, but really like a guaranteed three easy layups every game, and we lose that now maybe you know, now get one mate, But like I think him being limited, I almost feel like we're down two and a half players when you're talking about him, because I don't think he's I don't think he's yet to get back to what he was pre when the back flared up. 00:18:41 Speaker 7: Yeah, they're missing him a lot. Even though he's out there. He wasn't what he was in the non conference, Like you go back to Duke Gonzaga, those big wins. He made big plays down the stretch, and at Texas he got a big bucket to put him up five with five minutes left, and I kind of thought, oh, oh, Car's. 00:18:55 Speaker 3: Turning a corner. 00:18:55 Speaker 7: Kentucky's turning a corner. 00:18:57 Speaker 4: Let's put this away. 00:18:57 Speaker 7: And then he fouls out a minute later and you don't see him again. So he made the one play, but that was his only real big contribution. Had a bad turnover. It's just you know, it's obviously the back, I mean lines up perfectly statistically with when he stepped out and then came back. But I mean, he's he's half of what he was in the non conference. 00:19:15 Speaker 4: One person rights Matt I was watching the live feed of Pope talking. He seemed very serious to me when he said playing him left handed. I think they're looking of any way to get him on the court. That would be shame an unbelievable thing. If you playing lift and. 00:19:31 Speaker 2: What if he's actually good, what if he's just left handed? He just discovers this out of nowhere. I'm actually left handed. 00:19:41 Speaker 3: I didn't know it. 00:19:42 Speaker 4: Can you can? You all shoot with your off hand very well. 00:19:47 Speaker 7: I'm technically amidextrious a little bit. I can do some things with both shooting of basketball. Probably not, but not that I throw it well. 00:19:54 Speaker 4: But I can. 00:19:54 Speaker 7: If I throw a football right and left, it looks about the same. 00:19:58 Speaker 4: It's good. Ryan. I'm weird in the sense that I dribble left handed, but I couldn't shoot left handed. So I dribble left handed, shoot right handed, kick left footed. 00:20:10 Speaker 5: That's crazy. 00:20:11 Speaker 4: So I don't know why that is. But if you asked me to swing a golf club or shoot a basketball or throw a ball left handed, I can't do it. But if we were to just play basketball and I was dribbling up the court, I would dribble it left. So I but you know, some people, some people, maybe he can do it. I don't know. 00:20:26 Speaker 6: And you know, these these high level basketball guys, they can use their off hands often just as good as they can use their dominant hand. So he can probably use his left hand better than we think. But I don't know if he can step out and knock them three. 00:20:38 Speaker 4: Shoot and shoot threes with me. I don't know about that, all right, I want to before we go the phones, I do want to talk for a second about the flooding in the mountains. Governor Basheer said this morning, fourteen people have passed away. I was talking to somebody who does work in that area that said the death toll will be less than the last one, but that the long term damage may be just as bad, if not worse, because it hit a wider swath of area. You know, there is flooding from Pipeville all the way down to Clay County, and there's flooding in other parts of the state. Right, I mean, there are a couple of people who lost their lives in Hart County and just all kinds of places. So while the death I mean I think forty five people passed in the flooding in twenty twenty two, it's fourteen. I bet that number one increase. But the actual long term toll may be just as bad, if not worse. And you know, not only are our prayers to everyone that's involved, but this will be another case where I think the state we will have to step up for our fellow people. We're going to try to find ways to help. I think it's one of the things you have to kind of assess with people what the need is. But in the immediate term, I think the the Appalachian Regional Health those folks are kind of taking care of immediate needs. If you're looking for someone to donate, I know UK Athletics put something out, but Ryan, it's obviously a terrible scene. Then you have some bitter cold and snow coming late tonight and tomorrow that will not make it any easier. So I hope everyone a will check on your neighbors, especially if you live in those places. But also, Ryan, pray for these folks because this will be a rough night, tonight and day tomorrow upcoming. 00:22:35 Speaker 5: It's awful. 00:22:36 Speaker 6: I mean, it's just devastating again for that area down there. And you know we've seen the stories where you know, schools again getting flooded, nursing homes getting flooded, people have to make water rescues. And now you're right now the temperature is going to be in the teens the next couple of days. 00:22:49 Speaker 5: It's awful, it is. 00:22:51 Speaker 4: So please check on your neighbor and just check on things you can do, and we'll be keeping you up to date on here as well. We'll take a break and be right back. This KSR TJ. 00:23:00 Speaker 3: Smith, personal injury attorney called TJ. He'll make them pay now. 00:23:05 Speaker 2: More of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. 00:23:08 Speaker 3: Here's Matt Jones rulter back. 00:23:12 Speaker 4: It is Kentucky Sports Radio eight five nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven. The text machine is seven seven two seven seven four five two five four h Ryan. One person writes, Matt, do you think with all the injuries we've had there's something to be said about trainers or the way Pope prepares the team? No. I think the injuries are fluky. I think injuries in general are fluky, but especially the ones we've had, falling a weird way, back, pain, et cetera. I think it's just it's just one of those things. I also think, you know this is we've played how many games this year? Dree twenty seven. I mean, just for sake of argument, that's twenty That's what thirty percent of an NBA season. These dudes play more games like this. They're not hurt either because of what how Pope trains or doesn't train injuries to some extent. Now, if this happened every year, year after year for seven or eight years, I think you'd ask yourself. But for the most part true, I think these injuries are random in all unique circumstances. That just happened, you know. I mean Kurrs was a non like Curs was like just the way he landed. It happens, you know. 00:24:24 Speaker 7: Yeah, we didn't see Robinson's that happened in practice, but it's obviously very bad. Kurrs we saw in real time. We knew what happened immediately. That can't be prevented in Lamon Butler. His is because Texas A and M came and played a football game in rap Arena, and then he had to try to give it a go against Tennessee and they also tried to play college football instead of a basketball game. He just got completely roughed up in those two another right in front of our eyes in car. He's just an old man. 00:24:48 Speaker 4: I mean they're all. 00:24:49 Speaker 7: Four completely different. Two of them we got, we saw exactly what happened. 00:24:53 Speaker 5: The thank goodness the ankle doctor left or you know we any ankle injuries? 00:24:57 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, how about that the ankle doctor though, I mean we miss him. Maybe that's somebody we should have counted. 00:25:04 Speaker 2: And he left, and now we have zero ankles turned zero. The tracker has zero. The guy that was here, they're supposed to help all that we had, like twenty last year. 00:25:14 Speaker 7: Knock on, wo chanon. 00:25:15 Speaker 4: You just see you just never believed in the the oh guy I felt. I felt good about the ankle guy. Now is he? Yep? 00:25:23 Speaker 3: Let's go to bluegrass? 00:25:24 Speaker 4: Bluegrass? How are you? 00:25:27 Speaker 9: What's going on? Fellas? Yeah, you all said prayers go out to my neighbors here. It's it's pretty bad up here in Floyd County, Fellaws. 00:25:36 Speaker 4: Yeah, So when you say pretty bad, I mean give hang on just bluegrass. When you say pretty bad, give people give me an example. What talk about if. 00:25:44 Speaker 9: You know now that the water's gone, the mud is everywhere, like homes that just got built back are just destroyed again. Like yeah, it's it's down hardening. Fellas, Like really it's it's it's as bad as you can think about mud and and when water comes in your home, it's just done, you know, it's just you gotta start over. 00:26:05 Speaker 4: It's just some people. There's some people who had just rebuilt their homes from the last one and it happened again. 00:26:14 Speaker 9: Yes, sir, yes, Matt, Like just I'm talking about months ago, got fit finished and that's all yeah, like yeah, pretty bad, pretty bad. But let's I guess this might be a little bit more positive. I don't know, but let's go. I'm watching this Texas game, and I couldn't happen to think back at when Mark was talking to you, when Polk was talking to you about having this whiteboard of you know, and there's all intricate pieces to make this team what it was going to be. And remember when the whole coaching staff went out like their hair was on fire to get Butler because he was that winner and he was that dog. I think when you start taking those pieces away, you've got a lot of two stars out there and three stars that know. 00:26:59 Speaker 4: You you do You're you're exactly right. 00:27:02 Speaker 6: You know. 00:27:03 Speaker 4: We talked to Bluegrass about how the sum was greater than the the hole was great in the sum of the parts, but then you take some of those parts away, and that hole comes comes down quite a bit. 00:27:14 Speaker 9: Yees, So we're I think we're kind of lucky we are where we're at right now, Philas. Even if we go let's say we win two more, then we're probably what we thought we were to begin with. 00:27:24 Speaker 4: Right Well, it's hard to say I appreciate the call because Ryan, I mean, on the one hand, let's say we only won two more, we'd be nineteen and twelve. That's probably not as good as I thought we'd be. But I also didn't think the SEC was going to be as good as it is. I mean, even after the game against Texas, Ryan, we're still a three seed in Lonardes thing. Did you see that? We only went down from ten to eleven? So, I mean, you know, we could there's a world where we end up twenty and eleven and lose in the second round of the SEC tournament and are like a four seed or a five seed. I mean, that's a real distinct possibility because of the strength of the wins that we have on our resume. 00:28:12 Speaker 5: That's it. 00:28:12 Speaker 6: You know, we're all disappointed by some of these losses, you know, Vanderbilt in Texas and Ohio State, and some of these losses we should have won. 00:28:20 Speaker 5: We forget about. We've got some really, really, really good wins this year. 00:28:23 Speaker 6: I just with six games left, I won't be shocked if we win three and loose three, I won't be shocked we win to lose four. 00:28:30 Speaker 3: I mean, I think it can go either way. 00:28:32 Speaker 4: I it was interesting to me when you watch the NCAA tournament thing Saturday, Drew Bubba Cunningham, the North Carolina AD mentioned our injuries in saying that we're a three seed, so clearly that is going to be something they look at. He mentioned it on the show. We're still projected even after Saturday as a three seed. A lot of the teams that were booked around us in that NCAA thing all lost as well, so I think that was part of it. And then if you look at the SEC tournament, you know, unless we collapse, we're probably gonna be an eight or and nine either way, Like, unless we collapse, like it's gonna I think hard for us to get to seven six. I think the other teams that are ten and lower are gonna lose more games. So I think we're kind of playing Drew to see are we getting to buy and playing Thursday at one or are we playing Wednesday at one. It almost looks like that's gonna be what it is. 00:29:29 Speaker 7: Yeah, of all the seeds to be a fringe either or it's that's the direct line of Wednesday or Thursday. So hopefully it's an eight. After the game Saturday, I had to tell some people to go to bed. On our message board, they're talking about the nit fans just need to realize that Kentucky's record is really good. They've been calling them a lock in the tournament for weeks. That Texas game barely impacted the tournament seeding, if it did at all. And if you lose to Auburn, Missouri, and Alabama, that's not really gonna hurt you that much either. Those that's two top five teams and then Missouri in the top fifteen of the net. So as long as you handle business tomorrow against and maybe win that Okla one in home Oklahoma, those three, the other three really aren't gonna hurt you too bad long term. Cougie's in the tournament. Now, it's a matter of where you're see gonna be. I think they'll be fine. I think they still gotta win. 00:30:16 Speaker 4: At least I still think they gotta I mean, I don't think they can lose all these games, all right, so I think they gotta win. Like, I think they gotta win tomorrow. I think tomorrow's a big game. I think if you win tomorrow, then I'm gonna be like, Okay, fine, but if we were to like, look, if we were to not win another game, that might be different. But if we win, but I tomorrow to me is the But you make a really good point. We could lose to Auburn, Alabama, Missouri and really not hurt our seat at all if they lose those games, because because those are all teams that are ranked ahead of us, so a three is uh yeah, Well I said that, admitting. 00:30:54 Speaker 3: I'm sorry I was answering the phone. 00:30:55 Speaker 4: That's all right, don't you worry about it. I just wanted to make fun of you. Who's next to Todd? Todd? 00:31:00 Speaker 10: Go ahead, Todd, Andy, Good morning, Matt. I just want to say, have the prayers for the people affected by these floods and go on, Matt. I appreciate y'all being honest about Kentucky basketball. The good and the bad, and get to my point roal for a second. I want to say that when Pope was announced on that Sunday, that made a big statement to Barnhart and then because of what Big Blue Nation had gotten sick of. And I'm troud of what Pope did. But y'all keep hitting the nail on the head about the lineup. We had a lead going against Florida. He made wholesale substitutions. We were coming back against Clemson Vandy, I think we should have won. And against Texas the other night Perry Noah Williams, O Way and I can't remember the guy at number fifteen was our best line up on the floor. Oh but but I felt, yeah, we gave the game away. That's what hurts the worst. I know we got the injuries and we're doing the best we can. But if we can see it, you can see. Yet I don't know why these coaches don't see it. Cal was the world's worst. I still it's a it sticks. 00:32:05 Speaker 4: In my crawl. 00:32:05 Speaker 10: Last year, Dellingham hit three three threes against Kansas and Cal pulled him. I don't know how many games he lost with a ten point lead or more. And I'm not comparing him to him. And I'm glad we got Pope. I'm glad it's a change, but I'm just if you get a chance to talk to him, ask him why they make these wholesale substitutions. These boys should be playing more than three minutes at a time. The other schools, like Duke and them, they play eight man rotation for years. You know, they got better players. Maybe they're not as big a drop off coming off the bench, but these guys should be playing more than minutes than they should. 00:32:43 Speaker 4: I feel I agree. I totally agree with you. I appreciate the call, and I especially don't understand it right at the beginning of the game, like the game just started. They can't be tired yet, right, So I mean that, I know, I just I don't get we have so we have a number of games where first and second half we start out like wildfires and then take the guys out. And the thing is the other team leaves their starters in, so we're playing starters versus second team. Let's at least go as long until they make substitutions. Like, I don't understand our desire to be I would get it if at the end of the game. We were wearing the other team out, but our guys look worn out at the end. So you know, I don't I don't really know. A State Renovation isn't just for go to kitchens, baths, and basements. They also bring top quality craftsmanships to decks. So if you're looking to upgrade, rebuild, or create a new outdoor space for this spring season, get a deck or renovate your home with a State Renovations. They're locally owned by KSR listeners. A lot of you have called them and they they think you don't get like a little KSR house community. Visit a State renos R e n os dot com, learn more a State renos r e ns dot com, and turn your house into a home with Estate Renovations. We'll take a break and be right back to Kentucky Sports Radio. Well we're back. It is AF I'm nine two eighth twenty two eighty seven. I'm gonna do something Shannon here that you're not gonna believe. Okay, not just you, No, not just you, but most of the listeners won't believe. I'm gonna take up for Donald Trump off this text message. 00:34:27 Speaker 5: Anon, Yeah, how about that? 00:34:30 Speaker 4: When person writes Matt, I'm kind of mad I voted for Donald Trump. I live in eastern Kentucky and I'm a Republican, but I was mad that he was riding around the daytone of five hundred while our floods were happening. I think the president should have been more considerate. Now see, I'm agreeing with the liberal for the first time. You're actually not because I actually disagree with you. Like, I don't care if he went to day Come at five hundred or not. But I always hate when this happens, Shannon, When when like some disaster happens and people get mad at presidents for like not being in their office, What did you really want Donald Trump to do? Honestly, all he could do is you think, do you think he knows which which also he should do? But not in the moment right then he's that's a like, that's a that's as you're in the way. So like the same thing when the floods happened a couple of years ago, people are like, oh, Joe Biden, you don't want Joe Biden there, and you don't want Donald Trump there. They'd be in the way, And honestly, he is not the one that we want making those decisions. He doesn't know how to manage a flood. We want the people in the jobs to do it. So I think it's a little different when you're like a mayor or even a governor. But the president, what's he gonna do, Shannon, He's not gonna do anything. He can't do anything in that moment. So I don't care if he today to a fiver or not that that's irrelevant. But like I do think we sometimes if we don't like the other the president, are like, why aren't you doing? They're not gonna be able to do anything like the people who are the experts, they're the ones working anyway. So I don't know why we expect somebody to like I felt the same way in twenty twenty two when people go on about Biden not being there. They don't need to be there. They'll be in the way. Shit, that's the reality. 00:36:14 Speaker 2: He can see the situation, he can see what the you know, the damage done without being there, what's he. 00:36:18 Speaker 4: Gonna even do? He doesn't know what to do. You just hire the people who know what to do, and then they do it right. They don't know I mean, so yeah, I think that's an unfair criticism that we always put on politicians that we don't like. Now the mayor and like the may like when the when the fires happened in California and the mayor of LA wasn't there and that's a bad look. But the president, like what are they? 00:36:40 Speaker 3: And those people are already there, they live in that community, you know, I think, and but. 00:36:45 Speaker 4: Sheer, I think that's something he does really well, is he's like in the office and doing presscom. That's what the governor. That's a governor role. I think the president, I just think that's a little bit different. 00:36:56 Speaker 3: Who's up next, John, John? 00:36:58 Speaker 4: Go ahead, John, I was glad to see you. Con over to the right eye now, Matt on this hang on, hang on, hang on. 00:37:09 Speaker 9: I got that. 00:37:10 Speaker 4: That's called that's called that's called being fair and magnanimous on every other issue. I could have a different conversation, but I'm talking about this because it affects Eastern Kentucky. 00:37:20 Speaker 8: Ohe oh, I missed that. 00:37:22 Speaker 10: I'm sorry. 00:37:23 Speaker 8: A couple of things. It's interesting that h Yeah, it's interesting that Jackson's risk was hurting the South Carolina game. He obviously had X Ray's MRIs and everything, and I'm sure they consult the doctors and they probably said it's not gonna hurt him to go ahead and play or fell he fell. 00:37:43 Speaker 4: Again, and he fell again. But you remember, I mean there's a fell. He heard it when he came back in. That is because and then he went out and didn't come back in because we said maybe they shouldn't have put him back in because we were up twenty. But yeah, he came back in and hurt himself again. 00:38:01 Speaker 8: I didn't I didn't know he fell again. I thought it was just from breaking his wrist from shooting. Also, you know, it's obviously the word is out on running was off the three point line. It's like, are we gonna gonna go ahead and take the layups that they're offering this or you know? Or or did he have his scheme to get his more open shots. 00:38:22 Speaker 7: I don't know. 00:38:23 Speaker 8: So it's gonna be interesting to see what happens there. 00:38:26 Speaker 4: Appreciate its calling true. I don't know if the guys we have can take guys off the drift like that would be I mean, Lamont Butler and Jackson Robinson would be two of the guys that if they had pressed down on us could get to the rim and finish. Probably is we don't have those guys, and I'm not sure our other guys can actually take advantage. 00:38:43 Speaker 7: Yeah, and it's obvious that Kobe Bray is struggling to get his own shot when they've jammed up this offense recently. You know, late in the game, he was just crossover a crossover, going off a screen, trying to get it. He'd step back. 00:38:54 Speaker 3: But to go over four. 00:38:56 Speaker 7: You know, I can go ahead and say what you like. I usually say, but you gotta have Kobe Brad to win basketball games. But just Kentucky as a team only hitting four in that game. I know their credit was six. They hit away and Perry hit two meaningless wounds in the last thirty seconds. Before that, there were four for twenty two. And I know we can debate everything that went wrong, but for me, if Kentucky went four for twenty two from three in a game, I don't expect them to win. 00:39:17 Speaker 4: It's just the three matters so much. All year. 00:39:20 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean all. 00:39:21 Speaker 4: Year you've been I mean, you've been dad on when we when we make four threes, we ain't beating anybody, especially on the road. 00:39:27 Speaker 7: It's lazy to just say did you hit threes or not hit threes? But that's the way Kentucky's offense is designed. That's kind of how it goes. 00:39:34 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're right. Who's next, Steve, Steve, go ahead, Steve. 00:39:38 Speaker 11: Hey, how y'all do good? Okay, I'm I'm a yeah, I'm a I'm a good fank KSR. Listen as often as it can, you know, Matt, I think part of the problem we have in this County three is we don't really look at this what causes things. We look at the aftermass and say, well, somebody will leave something. But that I'm talking about young the flooding, I mean, what caused that. Well, you know, we don't want to go there necessarily, but it's it's like so many things. If you don't affect go for the root, cause you're not going to save eastern Kentucky, you're not going to help us at all. We gotta get more proactive. 00:40:23 Speaker 4: And that's all, by the way, I totally agree with you about that. And people who care about the mountains and I'm one of them, and you're one of them. And there are people of all ILKs on the far right and the far left who all care about the mountains because all of a lot of us have have roots there. We do at some point soon have to have like a real conversation about what I mean, we can't do anything about the past, but about the future of rural Eastern Kentucky. And this is rural America in general, and we have to be honest about it, and we can't. We have to what is now because you're exactly right. You know, we've had these kind of once in a lifetime storms, but when you have two of them in three years, it's all of a sudden, not once in a lifetime, and we have to start really thinking about what are we going to do going forward. 00:41:13 Speaker 11: Yeah, it's kind of funny when you have one hundred year floods every fifteen years, you know, five years for that matter. You know, it's uh. But anyway, Eastern Kentucky needs are helped. I hope that I haven't heard of anything going wrong when people could donate to Eastern k people. If there is one out of like to well there. 00:41:33 Speaker 4: Is there is, there'll be more. Just I'll have probably more information on that tomorrow for you. Okay, I mean, I know, like, thank you so, but there will be there will be stuff. I think it's important in this moment to kind of figure out where needs are and make sure you use the right organizations. But we should have more on that Tomorrow. We'll take a break and come back out number two. This is KSR
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