Brad Garrett (Everybody Loves Raymond, Elio, Christopher Robin)
No need to grab Ray, this week television, voice acting and comedy legend Brad Garrett joins Jim to discuss 30 years of friendship and career history. Stay Toon'd!
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2025-06-22
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<v Speaker 1>If you're a fan of everything we do here at <v Speaker 1>tuned In with Jim Cummings, you could support the show <v Speaker 1>on Patreon for bonus exclusive podcasts, as well as early <v Speaker 1>in ad free access to the show itself, prize drawings, <v Speaker 1>and more. You'll feel the difference, so go ahead and <v Speaker 1>join the tuned In family today at patreon dot com <v Speaker 1>slash Jim Cummings Podcast. <v Speaker 2>Do it now? How you doing out there? <v Speaker 1>It's me Tigger, I am Doc Wayne Duck. It's me <v Speaker 1>Bunkers Deep Bobcat. <v Speaker 2>All right, y'all? <v Speaker 1>Is it Rat your favorite firefly you desire? <v Speaker 2>Hondo, old knock guy. <v Speaker 1>My name is Jim Cummings and welcome to tuned In. <v Speaker 3>Welcome back, everybody to another episode of Tuned In with <v Speaker 3>Jim Cummings in a new studio. That's right, How do <v Speaker 3>you like it? We're here in Las Vegas. I'm producer <v Speaker 3>Chris joined us always by the legend Jim Cummings. <v Speaker 4>How are you doing today, sir? <v Speaker 1>It's another day in paradise. <v Speaker 4>Absolutely an Today we have a very special guest for you. <v Speaker 2>Couldn't make it actor to meet. <v Speaker 3>In voiceover actor, multi talented the amazing Brad Geary. <v Speaker 2>Thank you for trying the day. Hi, thank you. You <v Speaker 2>do that too. The crowd, that is the crowd. I'm <v Speaker 2>used to this. Where's Ray? Yeah, good to see him. <v Speaker 2>How are you? How are you liking Vegas? Oh? <v Speaker 1>It's nice and warm. <v Speaker 2>Yeah this is not this is that's true time, that's <v Speaker 2>true to one hundred and twenty I think fifteen days <v Speaker 2>last summer. Kid, it was. It's just it's brutal. <v Speaker 1>Do you do the egg thing? Just put it out <v Speaker 1>of iron skillet out there? And because I heard that. <v Speaker 2>That, well, well I'm homeless, so okay, so I do so. Yeah, <v Speaker 2>so I make my eggs on the sidewalk and then <v Speaker 2>I sell them or or trade them. You know. It's yeah, <v Speaker 2>it gets great. I should try the egg thing. Yeah, <v Speaker 2>I should try that, because you know, I got a <v Speaker 2>lot of time. And seriously, at this point, it's like, <v Speaker 2>what am I going to do here? It's a fun town, man, <v Speaker 2>It's changed so much. <v Speaker 4>How long have you lived out here for? <v Speaker 2>Well? You know, I'm here half the time, more more <v Speaker 2>so lately because I have my club at MGM, but <v Speaker 2>I still live in LA But I've been working the <v Speaker 2>strip since eighty six. Wow, which is it? Yeah? Eighty six. <v Speaker 2>I started at the Desert in opening for their different people. <v Speaker 1>And yes, open there was a singer. <v Speaker 2>There was, there was a singer never made it, never mad. Yeah, <v Speaker 2>Frank Sinatra, Oh that one who called me Greg Barrett. Yes, <v Speaker 2>that for four years and I didn't have the stones, <v Speaker 2>you know. And my mom came to the show and <v Speaker 2>she says, why are you taking a bow to someone <v Speaker 2>else's name? And then she tip it back leave with <v Speaker 2>the band member. But I said, Mom, it's no big deal. <v Speaker 2>It is a big deal. Your name is Brad. He's <v Speaker 2>calling you. And I went to Jilly, you know, his <v Speaker 2>main bow after a couple of years, and I would, hey, Jilli, uh, <v Speaker 2>can I ask you a question? And immediately he would <v Speaker 2>you want the gig or not? That was Jilly Wow, <v Speaker 2>And I said, of course I want the g I said, <v Speaker 2>but Frank's calling me u A Greg. What is your name? <v Speaker 2>I said, Brad, And he goes, do you want to <v Speaker 2>go correct them? And I said no, no, not really, <v Speaker 2>So for about you know, quite a while, I'm taking <v Speaker 2>about to Greg Barrett, and even backstage he would say, <v Speaker 2>Greg got me more eyes, and of course I would <v Speaker 2>do it. But it was it was fun because it <v Speaker 2>was like him and Sammy and Eliza Minelli would come <v Speaker 2>by and you know, refill the prescription. And it was <v Speaker 2>it was, it was a blast. It was you know, <v Speaker 2>it wasn't the old Vegas like we love, but it was. <v Speaker 2>It was the end of well an era. It was <v Speaker 2>an era. <v Speaker 1>It was an error, man, no kidding. And now you're <v Speaker 1>up on the Vegas Mount Rushmore. <v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know. I'm working. I'm working the food <v Speaker 2>court d MGM. If you're there, come by, get a <v Speaker 2>corn dog for you too, chewy, please come by. I <v Speaker 2>don't think he has a badge to be in here. <v Speaker 2>And it's you know, it's a it's a wonderful business. <v Speaker 2>It's it's humbling, you know because I wasn't a big, <v Speaker 2>big theater for a while. And then Ray took care <v Speaker 2>of that. Thank you. Put him near the food and <v Speaker 2>so it's great. So I'm in the club and he's <v Speaker 2>going to be like in the main theater in a <v Speaker 2>few weeks. So it's going to be it's kind of <v Speaker 2>going to be like life. I atating art. I'm working. <v Speaker 2>It does not sound right, Yeah, well it is with <v Speaker 2>his act because you know he has material, you know, <v Speaker 2>he has material. <v Speaker 1>Let me know that. <v Speaker 2>You know, I just roast people until they complain. And <v Speaker 2>but it's gonna be fun. We're gonna do a little reunion. <v Speaker 4>Oh that's good. <v Speaker 2>See if he remembers me. I've never met him. Looking <v Speaker 2>forward to seeing that. <v Speaker 4>Remind everybody loves. For those of you curious, yes. <v Speaker 1>Yes, and for the three of you who don't know, yes, <v Speaker 1>could before. I don't know. <v Speaker 3>We have some young people watching. Man, you know you <v Speaker 3>never know? No, No, it's it's definitely. I'll tell you how. <v Speaker 2>You know. When the the career is kind of over, <v Speaker 2>people think this is not this happened. <v Speaker 1>Please don't say you start a podcast. No, no, if. <v Speaker 2>It was successful, is this one? I would do it. <v Speaker 2>But people are starting to think I'm Kramer. Why don't <v Speaker 2>you know? Yes, I know, yes, yes, I'm where that hat. No, <v Speaker 2>I know, I know, but no, they really and it's <v Speaker 2>it's yeah, you know, they're like, are you Kramer? And <v Speaker 2>I'm like, yes, you know. I don't even want to <v Speaker 2>get into it, and I'm so insecure I don't want <v Speaker 2>to say no. But it's like the careers at the <v Speaker 2>point they they're not sure how they know you either. <v Speaker 2>With the high school Oh you're you're you're Kramer, you know. Yeah, <v Speaker 2>it's funny. I get that or be Arthur. I get <v Speaker 2>Arthur because of this because his size the ted ted smaller. <v Speaker 2>How old are you? Six eight six eight, six eight? Yeah? <v Speaker 1>I had you at ten for some reason, six ten <v Speaker 1>six ten? What are you? <v Speaker 2>Everyone sixten? <v Speaker 3>Well, that's true, you know, I mean, and is it <v Speaker 3>true that you hold againness book a world record for <v Speaker 3>tallest lead actor. <v Speaker 1>That I don't. <v Speaker 2>I don't pretty cool, I don't know. I think is <v Speaker 2>that really? Well? <v Speaker 4>One in my research I came across. <v Speaker 2>The stat that's a great stat. I think Andre is <v Speaker 2>the john. <v Speaker 1>But the guy. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, well was he a lead though? He was? Well, <v Speaker 2>I'm really not a lead you have. <v Speaker 1>I don't know, Jackie Gleason, I'm pretty sure you are. <v Speaker 1>That was that was That was that was That was <v Speaker 1>cool as hell. <v Speaker 2>You were great. Thank you. Ray had a great line. <v Speaker 2>He goes up, they should call the movie Jackie the <v Speaker 2>NBA Years. <v Speaker 1>Yeah. <v Speaker 2>That was a lot of fun. Yeah, that was a <v Speaker 2>lot of fun. <v Speaker 1>You sounds just like him. Yeah, well you you started <v Speaker 1>in your act, you you did a lot of impressions. <v Speaker 2>When I started out, it was just that's really all <v Speaker 2>that's all I did. When I started out, it was <v Speaker 2>very very you know, my beginning standard was very you know, <v Speaker 2>not that there's an incredible growth, but at the beginning, <v Speaker 2>it was very pedestrian. <v Speaker 1>Well, you were a star search the king of star Search. <v Speaker 2>Star Stears was the beginning. And I know, I'm eighty four. Wow, <v Speaker 2>hard to believe. Yeah, how long have you been doing? Pooh? <v Speaker 1>Yeah about eighty four. <v Speaker 2>Honestly, that's amazing, I think, yeah, I think that's right. Yeah. Yeah. <v Speaker 1>And I was doing Tigger on and off, depending on <v Speaker 1>God rest his soul. You know. Paul Pauline, he was <v Speaker 1>going back and forth to Africa too. It was back <v Speaker 1>during the famine. <v Speaker 2>Who was going to Africa? Paul Winchell during the famine. <v Speaker 1>During the famine, he can't touch great food out of here. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, I don't. <v Speaker 1>And he developed this. <v Speaker 2>How do you you know what he'll take the Yeah, yeah, <v Speaker 2>I mean that can't be good. Yeah, yeah, well he was. <v Speaker 1>And you know, in the Mississippi, because I was a <v Speaker 1>decade on but living New Orleans a long time, there's <v Speaker 1>these things called mud puppies mud guppies, and they have <v Speaker 1>a sort of a lizardy face and a and a <v Speaker 1>tail on the back. They look like mutants. I swear <v Speaker 1>to God, this is a real thing. Look it up <v Speaker 1>and apparently they're nutritious as hell and you can raise <v Speaker 1>them and crap and mud and you spin in the <v Speaker 1>dirt and you throw them and they so he took <v Speaker 1>them over to Africa. I developed as I mean, you know, <v Speaker 1>trigger knucklehead Smith curing hunger. It's a natural progression. <v Speaker 2>And he invented the artificial heart that I knew. You know, <v Speaker 2>I'm very good friends with his daughter, a Wood, who <v Speaker 2>does a lot of boys, and I just love her <v Speaker 2>to death. She makes me laugh, like you've worked with <v Speaker 2>her right, oh many many minutes. <v Speaker 4>Coming on the podcast next week. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, she really Oh she is so funny and you <v Speaker 2>know what she makes me laugh. <v Speaker 1>She's she's so so quick and so I know, and. <v Speaker 2>So like droll. You know. David Copperfield, who uh yes <v Speaker 2>was was uh my lover for a while sitting theater <v Speaker 2>cap theater cap, speaking of caps in theater camp. We <v Speaker 2>had a little uh we did Fiddler together, me and <v Speaker 2>uh uh and he played you know, the butcher and <v Speaker 2>I have you. But he's he's an amazing guy and <v Speaker 2>an old time. I used to open for him, like <v Speaker 2>in the eight out for Copperfield, and he's just a <v Speaker 2>great guy. But he has a magic museum, which is incredible. <v Speaker 2>I mean he's got artifacts and things that nobody owns <v Speaker 2>and he's really into Uh yeah, I hate saying his puppets, <v Speaker 2>you know, which makes you, It makes you wonder, makes you. Yeah, right, <v Speaker 2>it's a it's And he had some original Jerry Mahony's <v Speaker 2>that like April couldn't believe and and he actually gave her, <v Speaker 2>gave her one of the puppets and it was just <v Speaker 2>it was just amazing. Yeah, or sulted to her maybe yeah, maybe, yeah, <v Speaker 2>but it was amazing. But she makes me happy a <v Speaker 2>living Yeah, of course you do so since the eighties. <v Speaker 2>But wow, that's a credible And then you would do <v Speaker 2>Tigger when when when Paul was gone, he was literally <v Speaker 2>the chances of being able to That's how brilliant you are. <v Speaker 2>I mean, two of the most comic and I know <v Speaker 2>you do thousands, but I mean you've but you're such <v Speaker 2>a good actor. Oh thanks man, you really really really <v Speaker 2>are man, And it's just an honor to because I <v Speaker 2>you know, it's funny. I would I only did a <v Speaker 2>few sessions with you, with you in the room in <v Speaker 2>the early days. Yeah, yeah, And I would watch you <v Speaker 2>work and then I'd go home and I put my <v Speaker 2>head in the oven because I would say, this is <v Speaker 2>this is this is not worth it. You know. You <v Speaker 2>just had that way of wherever your mom would sit <v Speaker 2>around and gotta go get a biscuity, know, because it <v Speaker 2>was just it was how'd you break? Can I ask <v Speaker 2>how you broke it? I mean, like, what was your. <v Speaker 1>First Well it was it was right when Disney Channel <v Speaker 1>first started up and they were looking for programming. They <v Speaker 1>were trying to recycle a bunch of stuff, and we <v Speaker 1>had an audition for Lionel the line they were redoing Dumbo. <v Speaker 1>They were redoing Dumb but it was people, and it was, <v Speaker 1>you know, so little people. Some people in like two <v Speaker 1>or three people inside of the elephant costume. <v Speaker 2>It was in costume. <v Speaker 1>It wasn't animated, but they needed yeah, well all sorts <v Speaker 1>of people in. Yeah, in costume. <v Speaker 2>In those days, you could do that, and there was <v Speaker 2>a round up little people. They would do anything. They <v Speaker 2>would do anything you tell anything, go go, you know, <v Speaker 2>I got French draining. <v Speaker 4>In the yard. <v Speaker 2>I go in there and serious is true. <v Speaker 1>No, absolutely, And they they figured they needed Timothy the mouse, <v Speaker 1>but they couldn't. I mean, how how do you do <v Speaker 1>a mouse? <v Speaker 2>You know? <v Speaker 1>So they made him a lion and it was like <v Speaker 1>a four foot lion. Okay, so but it was still <v Speaker 1>the same little guy, you know, Timothy both circus, you know, <v Speaker 1>and he sounded like sort of a little chicagoy mouse guy. <v Speaker 1>And so I did the voice, but they just assigned <v Speaker 1>him lion, all the lion. And that was and fortunately, <v Speaker 1>excuse me, they they did sixty five episode got covid gym. Yeah, <v Speaker 1>very dry and dry in this town. I don't know, <v Speaker 1>you know, my eyes are. <v Speaker 2>We stop at the wet market on the way potato chips. Yeah, <v Speaker 2>but uh, that was like your first big It was. <v Speaker 1>My very first gig and fortunate and I didn't have <v Speaker 1>an agent. I just lucked out and got an audition <v Speaker 1>from a guy. I was working at the video depots <v Speaker 1>and a guy named sal Romeo had just made this <v Speaker 1>terrible B movie. <v Speaker 2>Uh. <v Speaker 1>We were probably you were great. You were great. <v Speaker 2>Thank you You played that one guy. But you know, <v Speaker 2>it's amazing what I have to give the credit. There <v Speaker 2>were five little people inside me. Oh yeah, I didn't <v Speaker 2>do any of the acting. Yeah, and my first marriage <v Speaker 2>that was by the way, really I just hid everything. <v Speaker 2>The French coat, you know, my offices. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, okay, yeah, you don't want you comfortable in <v Speaker 1>that chair, right, there's everyone. <v Speaker 2>Everyone's good, there's a chair here. I have to give <v Speaker 2>birth to that later. So that was your first guy, <v Speaker 2>that was first ko depot. <v Speaker 1>Yeah right, well he gave me, got an audition and <v Speaker 1>I got the job. <v Speaker 2>Was he involved in this? <v Speaker 1>No? No, he just knew a guy, okay, you know, <v Speaker 1>just like a guy. I knew a stories man. I <v Speaker 1>didn't have an agent, and it took sixty five episodes <v Speaker 1>and I went from Megan like I don't know, three <v Speaker 1>hundred bucks a week to make it seven seven hundred <v Speaker 1>bucks a week, really big fat money. <v Speaker 2>Now, so now I'm in the chips. Now you're and <v Speaker 2>when did you quit eight selling the portapes there? Yeah? <v Speaker 2>Yeah right, yeah we might have done that. Yeah maybe no. <v Speaker 2>I one of my first jobs. I'm embarrassed to say it, <v Speaker 2>but one of my first jobs was and this is <v Speaker 2>how I met a good friend of mine, Darryl, who <v Speaker 2>ended up working at TGA Friday TGI Fridays with me <v Speaker 2>years later. This is like the early eighties. I had <v Speaker 2>a job. It was where we had to sell adult <v Speaker 2>videos to like the children, right, but we children don't know. <v Speaker 5>No. <v Speaker 2>Wow, I'm glad you said that. Yeah, so there were <v Speaker 2>these kids and no we would we would have to <v Speaker 2>sell them over the phone. It was phone calling to <v Speaker 2>different video stores. Wow, this is the early eighties. And <v Speaker 2>we would call we go, hey, we had to pick <v Speaker 2>a fee. This is Brad from Supreme Not is that <v Speaker 2>my well yeah, it was really not my real neighborhood. <v Speaker 2>It was it was gun there, Craig. It was gun <v Speaker 2>the gun Tha Garret, Baby, let's have a hand for <v Speaker 2>this guy. <v Speaker 4>Are you serious? Yeah? <v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was Gunther Gunther and uh. I would call <v Speaker 2>and I would say, hey, we're from Supreme Video and <v Speaker 2>we're fine, we don't need any more. Uh. And I said, <v Speaker 2>well we got some new one we have, you know, <v Speaker 2>shower Rangers or or my favorite brother Harry, Harry Poter <v Speaker 2>Patrol was yeah that was good. <v Speaker 4>Or uh yeah, I'll shaving private Ryan. <v Speaker 2>Yeah that was one. What's that smell. <v Speaker 1>Shaving Ryan's privates? <v Speaker 2>Yeah? Another good one. That's a good one. But we <v Speaker 2>us and they're like, no, no, no, we're good. We're good. <v Speaker 2>But I actually I actually did that for Speaking of <v Speaker 2>Video Deep So that's a great story. And it was <v Speaker 2>all in costume. Yeah, that show. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was all in costume. And uh and no, <v Speaker 1>I wasn't in costume, right, but by the time, by <v Speaker 1>the time sixty five episodes were up, I had an agent. Sure, <v Speaker 1>so I didn't have that downtime where you're where you're <v Speaker 1>you're poor, lucky, you know, you're working, you're working now, <v Speaker 1>you're poor, now you have enough to live on and <v Speaker 1>so uh and I was very you know, an knock <v Speaker 1>on wood and yeah, I never saw that's incredible and <v Speaker 1>it's you know what's interesting. We were talking about it <v Speaker 1>the other day in one iteration or another. Mickey Mouse Club, <v Speaker 1>Mickey Mouse Clubhouse, Mickey Mouse, House and Mouse, Mickey Mouse Boy. <v Speaker 1>We got a lot of Mickey Mouse, Mickey Mouse and <v Speaker 1>the Roads to Racers on more Mickey Mouse. And it's <v Speaker 1>still got We just wrapped for the first time since <v Speaker 1>my career started. On the left, I don't have a <v Speaker 1>Mickey Mouse episode on my calendar. <v Speaker 2>Was like a couple of weeks ago, right, Yeah, just <v Speaker 2>a couple you did Mickey No, I was always. <v Speaker 1>Pete, you were. <v Speaker 2>There. You go, pal, How you doing, buddy? Yeah? That <v Speaker 2>big cat. You know I auditioned oo. <v Speaker 4>You did that? <v Speaker 2>Of course I did. Maybe we're we're going to get Jim. <v Speaker 2>I know I have one voice, seriously and two speeds. <v Speaker 2>You know, there was no rain. <v Speaker 1>Seems to be working. <v Speaker 2>It's like I look at my stuff and it's like <v Speaker 2>that's that's just bloat with a limp. You know, it's <v Speaker 2>like it's it's unbelievable. People would go like, a can <v Speaker 2>you do anything different? But it's like you, yeah, it's <v Speaker 2>like a plethora of stuff when you were young, did <v Speaker 2>you know, I mean, were you always doing like did <v Speaker 2>you impersonate people in the family or teachers? <v Speaker 1>Oh, that's exactly what I did. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what I did. <v Speaker 1>God Rest their soul. My uncle Sam and my aunt <v Speaker 1>Grace have been in a lot of cartoons. <v Speaker 2>For real. <v Speaker 1>Uncle Sam was he was all in the dragon or <v Speaker 1>some goddamn Is that for real? <v Speaker 2>Yeah? <v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's how we talked to God Rest his soul. <v Speaker 1>My cousins are so. <v Speaker 2>They did animation. <v Speaker 1>No, no, they just they were just they were in Youngstown. <v Speaker 2>Oh they were meant they were okay, But then now <v Speaker 2>so their voices. <v Speaker 1>And then my grace she wash from Pennsylvania and she signed, <v Speaker 1>that's all I like that. Hey, yeah, I'm gonna tell <v Speaker 1>you what I'm gonna do. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, were you fashion this up. <v Speaker 1>For your aunty honey? <v Speaker 2>Honey? <v Speaker 1>Just get tell them make the same same thing. And <v Speaker 1>that was and she was. <v Speaker 2>She that for them? I mean they had Yeah. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the matter with him. You know. I used <v Speaker 1>to get that a lot. If you're a fan of <v Speaker 1>everything we do here at tuned In with Jim Cummings, <v Speaker 1>you could support the show on Patreon for bonus exclusive podcasts, <v Speaker 1>as well as early in ad free access to the <v Speaker 1>show itself, prize drawings, and more. You'll feel the difference, <v Speaker 1>So go ahead and join the tuned In family today <v Speaker 1>at patreon dot com slash Jim Cummings podcast Do It Now. <v Speaker 3>And you started out doing impressions earlier in your career. <v Speaker 3>I did Bill Cosby. I really want to hear the <v Speaker 3>bill cause yeah. <v Speaker 5>I will see with the people with before before the <v Speaker 5>rape rape. <v Speaker 2>Yes, you can do up doc. You know the story <v Speaker 2>of what he brought me on the Tonight Show. He <v Speaker 2>brought me on the Tonight Show and I was working <v Speaker 2>in Vegas. This is when I started in Vegas. I <v Speaker 2>was opening for Crystal Gale and the d I and <v Speaker 2>he was at the Hilton and he was at the <v Speaker 2>last minute he was supposed to fill in for Carson <v Speaker 2>as a host because Johnny got sick and it was <v Speaker 2>really and he had a show at the Hilton and <v Speaker 2>the you know. <v Speaker 5>Listen a little if the plane gives me to the burbike. <v Speaker 1>I liked the mouth, you look like that's what kills me. <v Speaker 2>And they said, all right, we need a comic. So <v Speaker 2>we were with the same agency, not the same agent, <v Speaker 2>and you know, they were pushing me. And again, you know, <v Speaker 2>I'd done the Tonight Show, nothing great, really, nothing to <v Speaker 2>write home about. I got through. You know, I got <v Speaker 2>one of these and I got one of these, so <v Speaker 2>it was kind of a bush. But so I got <v Speaker 2>a call and they go, Bill, once, I have you <v Speaker 2>on the Tonight Show today today. So I go, okay, <v Speaker 2>they go, you're gonna go. So they go show up <v Speaker 2>at the airport and it's Carson's jet and Carson yep <v Speaker 2>and I get on the plane and you know, growing <v Speaker 2>up he was you know, he was one of my <v Speaker 2>hero especially for stand up And I get on the <v Speaker 2>plane and there's Cosby and this is when the Cosby <v Speaker 2>Show was on, this is the early eighties. And he's <v Speaker 2>holding a calendar section of the Time magazine and he's <v Speaker 2>on the front of it and he's holding it, oh for. <v Speaker 2>And I walk on the plane and I'm a little <v Speaker 2>shaky and there's a huge spread in front of him <v Speaker 2>of fruit and cheese. And I get on the plane <v Speaker 2>and I nod and he goes, kiwi okay. So I <v Speaker 2>sit down and there's you know, and I go, I <v Speaker 2>sit away from me. He goes, please have a zeato, <v Speaker 2>what is it? Se down and I sit down next <v Speaker 2>to him and we take off. It's a forty minute <v Speaker 2>flight and he doesn't say much and very cordial and <v Speaker 2>right before we land because I had my little set <v Speaker 2>set up. Now, usually you work on a Tonight Show set, <v Speaker 2>it takes quite a while, but you know, I found <v Speaker 2>out it literally twenty four hours. So I'm like, well, <v Speaker 2>I know what I'll do. I'll close with Cosby. He's hosting. <v Speaker 2>It'll bring the it'll bring the house down. Other than that, <v Speaker 2>I don't have much, you know, I'm doing my you <v Speaker 2>know Hackey seven eleven jokes. Yeah, with Bubby or whatever. <v Speaker 1>And you had to have like four minutes six six six, <v Speaker 1>and I don't have six now, you know, to be honest, <v Speaker 1>I don't have six now. <v Speaker 2>Forty years later, So we're about to land and he says, hey, Brian, <v Speaker 2>are here, you do it? Im pressure will be and <v Speaker 2>I went yes, yes, and he goes, don't do it tonight, okay, okay, <v Speaker 2>and I was like yeah, yeah, and he goes, I'm serious. Oh, <v Speaker 2>and I go into like I think I'm having an anerism, right, <v Speaker 2>So I'm like, well, I could do Rodney, but I'll <v Speaker 2>tell you you're okay. You know, I was, what's doing <v Speaker 2>Rodney at the improv? <v Speaker 1>Good? <v Speaker 2>When I started out? He was doing Rodney at the improv? <v Speaker 2>And I hear from the back of the room, why <v Speaker 2>don't you get your own fucking act? Okay? And I <v Speaker 2>almost started to cry. I remember, you know, I was nineteen, <v Speaker 2>and I welled up and I went, oh my god, <v Speaker 2>that's Rodney. And he just walks on stage like like <v Speaker 2>right after that, whoa. And I'm like, You're okay, You're okay, <v Speaker 2>all right, good luck with your life, you know. Have <v Speaker 2>We ended up being buddies later later in life, but <v Speaker 2>it was like, oh my god, that was you know, <v Speaker 2>that's something that that's brutal. It was brutal. <v Speaker 1>That is insane. <v Speaker 2>So I end up cut to the chase the Tonight <v Speaker 2>Show and the set's going very average. Okay, well it's <v Speaker 2>going okay. Cos me watching the set and I got <v Speaker 2>like I got like one of those yeah, but it <v Speaker 2>was it wasn't great, it was okay. It was like, <v Speaker 2>you know, I knew people were looking at me going <v Speaker 2>it's got great cadence, you know, because you know, nothing <v Speaker 2>really is, and I know I got thirty seconds to finish, <v Speaker 2>and you know, the act really didn't build mm hm. <v Speaker 2>So I'm like, I'm going to do Cosby. Yeah, okay, <v Speaker 2>pull it out. And the place goes nuts and he <v Speaker 2>is stone. So I wasn't called over, nor did I <v Speaker 2>deserve to be. I get on the plane. I gotta <v Speaker 2>fly back with him. Oh really yeah, because we both <v Speaker 2>have a show perfect and you know right away, I'm <v Speaker 2>like a good chance he's really gonna touch me now <v Speaker 2>because you know it's a it's a win win. And <v Speaker 2>I'm on the plane and not a word, not a word, <v Speaker 2>and I'm saying yeah, the sphincter was like the sphincter. Gun, Yeah, <v Speaker 2>you're saint sphinx, yeah, sphincter. Yes, you always had a <v Speaker 2>way of doing it correctly and not a word for <v Speaker 2>the forty five minutes and uh, you know, I'm not <v Speaker 2>saying anything. And we landed at the Karen here at <v Speaker 2>the private and these two limos come up and I said, <v Speaker 2>thank you for having me. I really uh huh just a. <v Speaker 2>That's when I was. That's when the drinking really got heavy. <v Speaker 2>And double therapy you double. <v Speaker 4>Oh god, that's sober for quite a while now. <v Speaker 2>Just celebrated twenty eight years graduation. Thank you. I don't <v Speaker 2>recommend it. It's been it's been very lonely and both No, <v Speaker 2>it was thank goodness, goodness, yeah, great, thank you man, <v Speaker 2>thank you. Yeah. I had to had to. Yeah, but <v Speaker 2>that's a beautiful thing. My god. Yeah, let's jump over this. <v Speaker 2>I may I may take a tipperah yeah, recover just yes, exactly, <v Speaker 2>just I missread. <v Speaker 3>Just let's jump over to your voice acting career, so God, <v Speaker 3>if I'm not mistaken. Two stupid dogs? Was that your first? <v Speaker 4>That was? <v Speaker 2>That was? <v Speaker 1>Uh? <v Speaker 2>Do you know Donovan Cook who was the director so talented? Yeah, yeah, exactly, God, darn. <v Speaker 2>I'm sure you worked. <v Speaker 1>On that, yes, Pete, yeah, yeah, my my, my old Yeah. <v Speaker 2>He was in Three Musketeers. <v Speaker 1>Well I think he produced it. <v Speaker 2>You're right, you're right. Anyway, Mark Schiff the comedian played <v Speaker 2>the small stupid dog, and again, you know my range. <v Speaker 2>It was like don't need it, which is e or <v Speaker 2>which is bloat on percocet, which is you know it's <v Speaker 2>a little yeah, but two stupid Dogs was was actually yeah, <v Speaker 2>that was my favorite. Was Hanna Barbara you remember them? <v Speaker 2>And uh absolutely, Joe Barbara. I'll I remember he you know, <v Speaker 2>I have a I was young. He walked in and <v Speaker 2>he heard me do a couple of lines and he <v Speaker 2>called Donovan over. He goes, were there other people? Yeah, <v Speaker 2>for a wider net, and Donovan fought for me, and <v Speaker 2>and that was that was fun to this day. I <v Speaker 2>don't know, you know, I had this because he's so <v Speaker 2>talented and really funny writer. And there was a thing <v Speaker 2>where the dogs it was I was like a big <v Speaker 2>sheep dog and and and Mark Shift was the docs <v Speaker 2>and and we were really you know, we were two <v Speaker 2>stupid dogs. And we would do something where we would <v Speaker 2>eat something or shoe on a shoe and then one <v Speaker 2>of us would throw up a corn cob okay, perfect <v Speaker 2>full full, and you know we would ask, you know, <v Speaker 2>you know this is happening a lot, Donovan, what does <v Speaker 2>it mean? It's not important? Take forty you know, okay? <v Speaker 2>And then one day he said, because one day I'm <v Speaker 2>going to tell you because I'll run into them every <v Speaker 2>few years, or we'll text or email out of the blue. <v Speaker 2>And I've always you know, and I go, I know <v Speaker 2>the corn cob meant something, and you know where my <v Speaker 2>mind goes, not good? Ye, yes, And I said, could <v Speaker 2>you just tell me when? Yeah, one day, one day <v Speaker 2>I'll tell you. So if Donovan, if you're listening, I <v Speaker 2>want to know what the corn cob meant. <v Speaker 1>Oh, you're over. <v Speaker 2>There, that's a camera. I don't work much. I keep <v Speaker 2>looking at my guy over there because he's he's hitting <v Speaker 2>the ball pretty heavy. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, you can hear that sounds. <v Speaker 3>I wanted to also ask you do you have a <v Speaker 3>musical background, because Entangled as hook Hand, you had a <v Speaker 3>little musical number and I'm curious. <v Speaker 2>Well, I'm not sure how you're asking that. It's funny. <v Speaker 2>I was incredibly off key. And Alan Minken is that <v Speaker 2>his name? Alan, please don't correct me, okay, because I <v Speaker 2>know you sing. When they of this entangled, I go, uh, <v Speaker 2>you know, I'm kind of tone deaf and I'm not <v Speaker 2>a good singer. And he's like, that's what we want, <v Speaker 2>and I said, well perfect. So I go in there <v Speaker 2>to lay it down and I'm, you know, really nervous <v Speaker 2>because I've had this song for a week. It was <v Speaker 2>a great song, and uh was it? Everybody? You got <v Speaker 2>a dream? I got a dream. I got a dream, <v Speaker 2>that's right, and I'm happy to teach you how to do. <v Speaker 2>So I'm like, oh god, God, I just hope there's <v Speaker 2>not many, you know. And I go there and they <v Speaker 2>have the Disney Wire, which I know you've done so <v Speaker 2>these incredible singers the chorus, but I really don't sing. <v Speaker 2>I wish I could. I think every comedian wan you sing? Yeah, <v Speaker 2>right right? Okay? What was Can I get a little sure? <v Speaker 1>What would you like to hear some today evening? <v Speaker 2>That will be a stranger? <v Speaker 1>That's it? <v Speaker 2>You know, I think that was really bad, just a little. <v Speaker 2>I love that. I love that. You know. I lost <v Speaker 2>my virginity of that song too, Yes I did. <v Speaker 1>Wow, I lost your virginity too. <v Speaker 2>It's gotta be around it somewhere. <v Speaker 1>Christ Oh, don't try this at home. <v Speaker 3>By the way, of course, you guys both worked on <v Speaker 3>Christopher Robbin. <v Speaker 4>Of course you were you guys ever in the studio <v Speaker 4>together for that. <v Speaker 2>Never Jim doesn't allow that. I know people know that <v Speaker 2>about Jim. He goes, nobody, nobody over five eight. <v Speaker 1>Well, you know, well, you would come on and you <v Speaker 1>were so you were bone dry and which was superb, <v Speaker 1>and you're like the perfect Igor. And my favorite, one <v Speaker 1>of my favorite lines in the movie is a tigger <v Speaker 1>comes on and he gets introduced or something and he <v Speaker 1>has to launch into the tigger song and you know <v Speaker 1>who who and you turned to the little girl and <v Speaker 1>he goes. He does that a lot, and it was <v Speaker 1>just it was like boom. It was it was like <v Speaker 1>get that out of my neck. <v Speaker 2>Okay. <v Speaker 4>Did you know like Jim originally auditioned for e or Oh, <v Speaker 4>I'm sure. <v Speaker 2>And after that I may lose it. <v Speaker 1>No, no, no, no, but that's true. That is true. <v Speaker 1>You know I I uh when when at what point? Way, <v Speaker 1>I mean way back before. <v Speaker 4>Like before you even had Pooh or Tigger. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, before really well, you know, they they said because <v Speaker 1>Pooh was gone for I think it won the Academy <v Speaker 1>Award in sixty five, and then we started the series <v Speaker 1>eighty yeah for Winnie the Pooh and Tigger two, winning <v Speaker 1>the Poo in the Day for eyor uh and uh <v Speaker 1>and Winnie the Pooh. It was the three shorts because <v Speaker 1>they made three shorts, they put him together to make <v Speaker 1>it over. Then it was like seventy two minutes put together, <v Speaker 1>so then they could could release it as a movie, <v Speaker 1>which they did. That won the Animated Oscar for that year. <v Speaker 1>Then that took twenty years off. You know, you went <v Speaker 1>an Oscar. Okay, well that's enough. But I was glad <v Speaker 1>because it gave me a chance to grow up. And <v Speaker 1>then I used that twenty years to get older and uh. <v Speaker 1>Then I went and auditioned, audition for Gopher Pooh. I <v Speaker 1>didn't feel good about Owl. I might have tried an owl, <v Speaker 1>but Pooh and Ticker. Anyway, I came home and I <v Speaker 1>called my agent and I go, well, so what do <v Speaker 1>you audition for Pooh? Tiger? Nailed or I am e <v Speaker 1>or really yeah? Yeah, and and and she says, you're kidding. <v Speaker 1>I said, no, no, no. <v Speaker 2>You have to know your pool is no. <v Speaker 1>But I thought it was okay, you know. And and <v Speaker 1>so she calls me up a week later, as they do, <v Speaker 1>and she goes and this is prior to you being <v Speaker 1>e or obviously, but he said, well, I have bad <v Speaker 1>news and I have good news. I said, give me <v Speaker 1>the bad news. You're not or yeah, you're gonna be <v Speaker 1>kidding me. I'm notty, what do you mean, I'm not here? No, <v Speaker 1>they gave it to Peter Cullen, and I go, you <v Speaker 1>lose to Peter Cullen. You shut up and go you know, <v Speaker 1>of course, lick your wounds. You know. She's however, you <v Speaker 1>are Winnie the Pooh and Tigger. I said, you had <v Speaker 1>you had a yeah you had or yeah, you know, <v Speaker 1>you know. <v Speaker 2>I mean, wow. So I did your I auditioned for <v Speaker 2>your in the eighties for for a Valentine's Day. <v Speaker 1>Oh okay, yeah yeah. <v Speaker 2>And then I did like a couple of games, and <v Speaker 2>then things got busy and stand up and I was <v Speaker 2>on the road and there were a couple of sessions <v Speaker 2>I couldn't do unfortunately, and then uh, I think Colin <v Speaker 2>got Peter but optimist Brian optimist. Yeah, yeah, it was incredible. <v Speaker 2>I did one of the early transformers on TV when <v Speaker 2>it went TV. Did you do it? <v Speaker 1>Yeah? I did a couple of them. <v Speaker 2>You did? <v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was after Bernard Schleppie, I think Yeah, Smegma, Smegmazoid. Sorry, <v Speaker 1>smeg Mazoid. I can't. <v Speaker 2>I always loved Sure, sure the chasidic transformergzoid. You're standing <v Speaker 2>on my side burn Yes? <v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh man, man, who has more fun than this? <v Speaker 2>Yeah? We're lucky people, aren't we doing what we loved? Yeah, <v Speaker 2>we're very lucky. <v Speaker 1>That's what I always say. It's the stuff that used <v Speaker 1>to get me kicked out of class. Yes, and did <v Speaker 1>you know? I mean I don't. I hope I didn't <v Speaker 1>ask you this, but but when did you know that <v Speaker 1>you were going to you know what I'm gonna do. <v Speaker 1>I'm gonna grow up and I'm going to do this <v Speaker 1>this this well. <v Speaker 2>You know, I know it sounds like cliche or trite, <v Speaker 2>but it seems like people. Uh yeah, I was very odd, <v Speaker 2>you know, if you I know, that's hard to believe. <v Speaker 2>I know that's hard to believe. Yes, give me a <v Speaker 2>moment to smell my fing well you sing, But you <v Speaker 2>know I was like I was like six feet of thirteen. <v Speaker 2>I couldn't catch a ball. I couldn't throw, I couldn't <v Speaker 2>make a layup. I looked like Wisa Manelli if she <v Speaker 2>was putting a stretch machine. I had like short hair. <v Speaker 2>I had dark circles under my eyes. I looked like <v Speaker 2>a when I was four, Like I saw pictures of <v Speaker 2>what I was four. I had these bags under my eyes. <v Speaker 2>It looked like I was holding down three jobs as <v Speaker 2>a four year old. I always looked like I was, <v Speaker 2>you know, help me, help me. So I was bullied <v Speaker 2>all the time. And you know, people that knew me, <v Speaker 2>they're like, you're a giant. Just close your eyes and swing, <v Speaker 2>you know. And you know I was bullied by teachers. <v Speaker 2>This is how ball. Yeah. So I was like teachers. Yeah. <v Speaker 2>So it's like, yeah, I'm telling you, Oh, here it goes. <v Speaker 2>You know, look at them swanda down the hall. You know, <v Speaker 2>because I had a little you know, I had a <v Speaker 2>hump in those It was only a thirteen year old <v Speaker 2>with a hump from slouching. But I used my humor <v Speaker 2>to kind of you know, but my humor was kind <v Speaker 2>of you know, a little abusive and zetzi because it <v Speaker 2>would turn the attention onto the perpetrator, you know what <v Speaker 2>I mean. But if you can make a bully laugh <v Speaker 2>and people like, there's no way you could be bullied. <v Speaker 2>You're a giant. But as we know, the bigger they <v Speaker 2>are all right, thank you. And also, you know, how <v Speaker 2>was your childhood? Did you have a good one? Do <v Speaker 2>you ever get it? Yeah? So when you have parents <v Speaker 2>that are kind of struggling to parent, you try to <v Speaker 2>make them laugh because you know they're not happy, and <v Speaker 2>you know I had that. Unfortunately, I bombed in front <v Speaker 2>of my parents and they would boo, which was rough <v Speaker 2>during passover. Yes, you know, it just passed the herosis, <v Speaker 2>but it was. But I think that's where a lot <v Speaker 2>of it was. And I found that was really the <v Speaker 2>only thing I did that created you know, obviously attention <v Speaker 2>and stuff like that, but but I knew early on. <v Speaker 2>It's like I when I started, and you probably ran <v Speaker 2>into this. You know there were class clowns, but when <v Speaker 2>you can make the teachers laugh, yeah, that was kind <v Speaker 2>of where you go, wow, this is more than you know. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I always wanted to be the class wit <v Speaker 1>as opposed to class clown because we had a clown <v Speaker 1>and you know, and he would do tricks with his <v Speaker 1>boogers and I said, okay, he's the clown. He Pitpy <v Speaker 1>Balario is he's the closest name Pippy Valerio. No, it <v Speaker 1>wasn't it was Pitpy Valario. <v Speaker 2>It was no one's name Pippy Balerio vv Valerio. <v Speaker 1>See so now it makes sense. <v Speaker 2>Let me turn up the miracle here. You got me? Okay, <v Speaker 2>Pippy Valeria. <v Speaker 1>And he would make booger sculptures. So he won, He won, <v Speaker 1>He just won. I didn't want to compete, so I <v Speaker 1>would say things. He would do things. <v Speaker 2>You know that's hysterical. Okay, that's kind of where I was, <v Speaker 2>stuck somewhere between Pippy and the class wit. Okay, I would, yes, yes, <v Speaker 2>I would force people to make booger sculptures. See. I <v Speaker 2>was kind of the I was the heavy. That's a trip. <v Speaker 2>Where did you grow up again? <v Speaker 1>Johnstate, Ohio? <v Speaker 2>Really? Yeah? All right? <v Speaker 1>Man home of Boom Boom Mancini yep yead O'Neill And <v Speaker 1>now me, I guess so, And I think. <v Speaker 2>It's a great place to be first discovered there. Who <v Speaker 2>was Chlamydia? Oh? Yes, yes, great singer, incredible stripper. Ye <v Speaker 2>Chikuterie is going to be a jiggles if you can <v Speaker 2>catch him. <v Speaker 1>If you're a fan of everything we do here at <v Speaker 1>tuned In with Jim Cummings, you could support the show <v Speaker 1>on Patreon for bonus exclusive podcasts as well as early <v Speaker 1>in ad free access to the show itself, prize drawings, <v Speaker 1>and more. You'll feel the difference, so go ahead and <v Speaker 1>joined the tuned In family today at patreon dot com <v Speaker 1>slash Jim Cummings podcast. <v Speaker 3>Do it now, Well, let's let's fast forward because we <v Speaker 3>haven't thought about. Everybody loves Raymond. So that's got to <v Speaker 3>be a life changing The most popular show on the <v Speaker 3>TV for years, for years. <v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I got lucky, Yeah, I got lucky. Auditioned <v Speaker 2>uh for for Raymond? <v Speaker 1>Well they got lucky too, Man, you knocked it. <v Speaker 2>Out of the park's absolute. <v Speaker 1>You crushed it, crushed it. <v Speaker 2>Thank you. I owe that to Ray and Phil Rosenthal <v Speaker 2>who ran the show. And how many statues, Well they <v Speaker 2>took two back because they caught me at the MGM <v Speaker 2>and they went, he can't have those. But yeah, you <v Speaker 2>crushed it. Thank you. You know again, amazing writing. It <v Speaker 2>all comes down to the writing. I think for the <v Speaker 2>I mean the ensemble was you know we got lucky. <v Speaker 2>You know, you got Peter Boyle, you got you know, Roberts, Patty, <v Speaker 2>you know, and dumb and Ray who Uh. You know <v Speaker 2>what I do love about that man is is he's <v Speaker 2>so multi talented. I mean he finally directed, wrote, and <v Speaker 2>started his movie about Queen's which was so I mean <v Speaker 2>we always knew he you know that he could definitely direct, <v Speaker 2>and of course, right but you know, so much comes down, <v Speaker 2>you know, to the writing and you know, me and Ray, <v Speaker 2>you know, we were sitting there during like our first <v Speaker 2>table reading, We're going, you know, I can't believe Peter <v Speaker 2>Boyle is you know, playing our dad, and he goes, <v Speaker 2>all right, can yeah he was young Frankenstein and you're yeah. <v Speaker 2>But right away I was like, I'm gonna love this guy. <v Speaker 2>But he uh the same humble, uh, you know, self <v Speaker 2>effacing dude that that that got the pilot. I mean, <v Speaker 2>nothing changed him. He's just he's a good a good <v Speaker 2>guy and we still have fun. And you know, we <v Speaker 2>knew how lucky we were, and I knew how lucky <v Speaker 2>I was. You know, I auditioned for it. I didn't <v Speaker 2>have an agent at the time. <v Speaker 4>Either I believed it or not. <v Speaker 1>Yep, well that's a miracle. <v Speaker 2>It was a miracle I had. I had a couple <v Speaker 2>of great managers at the time. That really just I said, <v Speaker 2>I read the script and I just immediately knew a <v Speaker 2>way to go with it. And that was a different <v Speaker 2>way because you know Ray's show. I mean, when he <v Speaker 2>made the pilot, he was living across the street from <v Speaker 2>his folks, right, his brother just moved home with his <v Speaker 2>parents again from the NYPD after divorce. Ray was like, <v Speaker 2>I can only write what I know, and this this <v Speaker 2>is my story. Wow. But Richard who was who I <v Speaker 2>played his brother was a cop obviously, and he was <v Speaker 2>a shorter guy and kind of scrappy. You know. They <v Speaker 2>were thinking of like Danny DeVito wish type of guy <v Speaker 2>that was over well. I mean, you know, again I read, <v Speaker 2>I came back and I read for the network. But <v Speaker 2>I just felt like, what if we play this guy <v Speaker 2>so beaten, you know, he's he's coming second his whole life, <v Speaker 2>you know. And I had a little acting little tidbit <v Speaker 2>I would use the beginning, I said, Ray was an <v Speaker 2>only child, but they forgot to tell Robert, you know, <v Speaker 2>And it was like this was something that kind of <v Speaker 2>just stayed with me, and it was a fine line <v Speaker 2>of plain beaten. You know, there's a lot of him, <v Speaker 2>for sure, but there's a way of playing beaten without <v Speaker 2>always being the victim. And I love when they would <v Speaker 2>write stories where Robert would have the upper hand, you know, <v Speaker 2>which was rare because he wanted the life that everyone <v Speaker 2>around him had and that you know, and and Peter <v Speaker 2>and Ray wanted to be that single guy out there, <v Speaker 2>you know, catching a robber and having a woman in <v Speaker 2>the draguzzi. So that was the only thing I had <v Speaker 2>over them that I could kind of use. But you know, <v Speaker 2>it was it was I just knew immediately who I felt, <v Speaker 2>and I was worried because I was going a different <v Speaker 2>way than what they wanted. They wanted like a real <v Speaker 2>scrappy guy. And I said, you know, can I try something? <v Speaker 2>They were open to it, and and I got really lucky. Man, <v Speaker 2>you got to you gotta be ready. It's like I <v Speaker 2>when I talked to young actors, You got to you <v Speaker 2>got to be ready. You know, everyone wants an agent <v Speaker 2>and a manager before they've developed their craft, right, I <v Speaker 2>mean yeah, very very different. Social media. Everyone's a star <v Speaker 2>and everyone's on TikTok and it's really weird now, and <v Speaker 2>it's weird and it's sad and it has very little <v Speaker 2>to do with honing your craft. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's a lot of creates, a lot of <v Speaker 1>false hope. <v Speaker 2>I think that's a great look. <v Speaker 1>Look how many likes I got? <v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, does that translate? Yeah, yeah, that's a very <v Speaker 2>good point. I remember a few years ago social media <v Speaker 2>blew up and the networks were getting you know, oh, <v Speaker 2>this person has you know, four million followers, and they <v Speaker 2>give him a pilot and they wonder why they can act. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, and yeah, so it's yeah, well it's sure different though. Yeah, <v Speaker 1>you go from twenty seconds to twenty minutes. <v Speaker 2>The big jump. It is a big jump. <v Speaker 3>What's fascinating to me is you did such a good <v Speaker 3>job creating that character, Robert, that they brought him into <v Speaker 3>other films and television shows which I've never really seen. <v Speaker 3>We were talking about it earlier, and the only other <v Speaker 3>character I can think of who like plays a character <v Speaker 3>is like Ron Burgundy, Will Ferrell, you know, he'll have <v Speaker 3>him do little stand up stuff. And what was that <v Speaker 3>like where it's like, we want this character in this <v Speaker 3>show or this movie. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, you know, I didn't do a lot of that, <v Speaker 2>but there was a few. There was a little crossover. <v Speaker 2>But the thing is is after the show's over, you know, <v Speaker 2>they always want a type of guy like that, because <v Speaker 2>you know the businesses. It's it's like all these things <v Speaker 2>that you've seen, all these reboots, none of them work. <v Speaker 2>And they don't work because it's lightning in a bottle, <v Speaker 2>as you know, when you ever show that clicks and <v Speaker 2>you can't get everybody back thirty years later and expect <v Speaker 2>the magic because the magic was that time it was <v Speaker 2>being done and the synergy of those new writers. I mean, <v Speaker 2>we had these writers that came from all you know, <v Speaker 2>a lot of them were stand ups, and they were <v Speaker 2>just so incredibly funny. You know, we're after every take, <v Speaker 2>you know, every after every take, every all the writers <v Speaker 2>gathered the director, they go let you others and these <v Speaker 2>writers have four or five six different you know, blows <v Speaker 2>that we call it before, you know, for the end <v Speaker 2>of the scene or one liners at which you're like, god, <v Speaker 2>they're all good. So a lot of people have asked me, boy, <v Speaker 2>there must have been a lot of improv in that show. <v Speaker 2>There was really none, because you know, no, there wasn't. <v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, we would once in a while try, <v Speaker 2>but the right was when it's that great, you don't <v Speaker 2>dare improv because you got the gold. You know, once <v Speaker 2>in a while we puts around. You know, Ray had <v Speaker 2>a great way of coming up with a different one liners, <v Speaker 2>as they all did. But what's great is people thought <v Speaker 2>it was a lot was improv because there was that <v Speaker 2>chemistry with the cells and you know, we were able. <v Speaker 2>Anyone could hit it over the fence, any one of <v Speaker 2>those actors. And you know what was great is it <v Speaker 2>was really a support system. I know that sounds cliche. <v Speaker 2>I mean we were close. We were all very different people, <v Speaker 2>coming from very different avenues of the business, but we <v Speaker 2>there was a closeness about it, and that comes from <v Speaker 2>the top. And and well yeah, and I you. <v Speaker 3>Know, I'm really curious about one thing. And this is <v Speaker 3>a little more personal question, so forgive me, but. <v Speaker 2>You ask anything. <v Speaker 3>There was a point in time where you held out <v Speaker 3>for a higher salary. I'm curious what specific moment triggers <v Speaker 3>that where it's like, oh, I'm not doing this anymore, <v Speaker 3>I need to get paid more. Like is there a <v Speaker 3>specific moment like do you find out like oh Ray's <v Speaker 3>getting paid this or like this show is so popular, <v Speaker 3>Like where's that moment in time where it's like, you <v Speaker 3>know what, I'm not doing this anymore unless you guys <v Speaker 3>give me what I deserve. <v Speaker 2>Well, you know, you got to be very very very careful, <v Speaker 2>you know when you take a stand. So when you <v Speaker 2>when you take a stand. And the stand I took <v Speaker 2>was for the supporting cast. You know, I was like, <v Speaker 2>I'm either going to end up, you know, a really <v Speaker 2>ridiculous martyr or they're going to see the difference. You <v Speaker 2>know what when Ray was making is A is a <v Speaker 2>co creator and the star and that was you know <v Speaker 2>in those days, that was unheard of. It's never been <v Speaker 2>matched to this day for a sitcom. I didn't know that, yeah, <v Speaker 2>and totally deserving. What I was looking for is you know, <v Speaker 2>it was an ensemble and there was a supporting cast, <v Speaker 2>and I was you know, when I started, I was <v Speaker 2>at at the very bottom where I deserved it to be. <v Speaker 2>I had approved. I didn't expect, you know, to get <v Speaker 2>what Peter and Doris were getting starting out. But after <v Speaker 2>a certain amount of years and after it being a huge, <v Speaker 2>huge success, and I waited, I waited around, didn't seem <v Speaker 2>like it was coming, and I said I'm going to <v Speaker 2>take you know, I'm going to take a stand, and uh, <v Speaker 2>you know, you do it alone, and you do it <v Speaker 2>in a vacuum, and it's very, very dicey. <v Speaker 3>Because everybody kind of like focuses on you. Then Ray, <v Speaker 3>it's like, oh. <v Speaker 2>There's there's no question. <v Speaker 1>But I knew it takes a little gland. <v Speaker 2>It takes a little gland. And if I was on <v Speaker 2>a drama, I would have been killed. But at the <v Speaker 2>end of the day, I knew they weren't going to <v Speaker 2>get rid of Ray's brother, and whatever I would get, <v Speaker 2>Peter and Doris would get, and we were all in <v Speaker 2>it together. And then one day I find out they're back. <v Speaker 2>They went back and they said we got to go <v Speaker 2>back and I said, well, okay, and they said I <v Speaker 2>was the lone wolf in it, and everyone's like, dude, <v Speaker 2>you know. And I had, you know, the network calling <v Speaker 2>me and they said, you know, you're being written out <v Speaker 2>of the show, you know. And I said, God, I <v Speaker 2>I find that hard to believe, you know, And they said, yeah, <v Speaker 2>tell us right now me too. Do we write you <v Speaker 2>out or are you coming back? And I said, well, <v Speaker 2>I'm saying this with one gratitude. Write me out and <v Speaker 2>they did, and I dropped a little crab cake in <v Speaker 2>my pants. I'm not going to lie. There was one <v Speaker 2>episode of the two hundred and eleven I'm not in <v Speaker 2>Wow yet one and and you know what, it's okay. <v Speaker 2>It's okay because everyone involved, I knew got it and <v Speaker 2>I understood the fear, and I know where you know, <v Speaker 2>Doris and Peter were and they're like, you know, we're <v Speaker 2>a little up there, we're a little older'n we're gonna <v Speaker 2>call it. And I said, okay. And I mean they <v Speaker 2>called me and they go, you know, honey, you're not <v Speaker 2>in this, and I went, I get it, I get it. <v Speaker 2>But you know, at the end of the day, you're <v Speaker 2>alone in it. At the end of the day, it's <v Speaker 2>about everyone else, as it should be. And that's okay. <v Speaker 2>And it was a real good business lesson because I <v Speaker 2>remember I got a call from you know, Les Moonvis, <v Speaker 2>who was incredibly kind of the show head of the network. <v Speaker 2>He supported that show and believed in it. You know, <v Speaker 2>when we were on on Friday nights, we were getting killed, <v Speaker 2>we were getting killed on Friday nights, and less believed <v Speaker 2>in the show. And he was great to everybody. And <v Speaker 2>he says, I'm going to put you on after Cosby, <v Speaker 2>and he did, you know before the you know, before <v Speaker 2>before everything including me doing him on the tonight show. Yeah, yeah, yeah, <v Speaker 2>he said, we're going to put you I believe in <v Speaker 2>the show. And he put us on after Cosby, and <v Speaker 2>of course people saw it and and uh, you know <v Speaker 2>that was the thing. So everybody kind of stepped aside, <v Speaker 2>and less Moonvish called me live from the US open <v Speaker 2>uh and he goes uh. He goes, you know, we <v Speaker 2>got to figure this out. And this is after and <v Speaker 2>they were filming that episode. He goes, we got to <v Speaker 2>figure this out. And I said I'd love to. And <v Speaker 2>he goes, you know, this isn't looking good for for you, <v Speaker 2>And I said, I get it. I get it. I said, <v Speaker 2>but if you look at what I'm asking for, and <v Speaker 2>I know we're not going to close on that. I said, <v Speaker 2>if you look at it and you take it over <v Speaker 2>nine years, it's what I started at. Yeah, and he goes, uh, <v Speaker 2>I get that. I get that. And I said we're <v Speaker 2>not remotely near the lead money, nor should we be. <v Speaker 2>And I said, I think whatever I get, Doris and <v Speaker 2>Peters should get. You know, well, they're already back. And <v Speaker 2>I said I know, but they deserve it. They deserve it. <v Speaker 2>And he was amense and you know I was back, <v Speaker 2>but it was you know, I won't lie to you. <v Speaker 2>You know my dad, God rest his soul was you know, <v Speaker 2>death of a salesman. That was my father. He was <v Speaker 2>in sales his whole life. His life was not great, <v Speaker 2>his childhood sucked. He was in sales his whole life. <v Speaker 2>And he said something to me, because you know what <v Speaker 2>we are in a sales We have to sell. Except <v Speaker 2>for you, we have to sell ourselves every day. You <v Speaker 2>your soul. But we're constantly you sell, That's right, we're constantly. <v Speaker 2>I don't care, you know, unless you're the big, big, <v Speaker 2>big boys and women. You know, you're constantly having to <v Speaker 2>prove it. <v Speaker 1>Absolutely. <v Speaker 2>My dad said something I'll never forget in business when <v Speaker 2>when he was going through a time, he goes, you know, <v Speaker 2>in business, man, remember one thing, you got to know <v Speaker 2>who's got who, and the key is to make a <v Speaker 2>deal that works for everybody. And then when it works <v Speaker 2>for everybody, it's a home run. But you got to know. <v Speaker 2>And I remember when I was I was served legal <v Speaker 2>papers because I was in breach for not showing up <v Speaker 2>on the show. My dad was fighting cancer at the time, <v Speaker 2>and I'll never forget. He was on his couch, sprawled out, <v Speaker 2>really having a rough day, and I was sitting right <v Speaker 2>on the floor next to him, and I was like, <v Speaker 2>and he went, hang in there, hanging there. It's going <v Speaker 2>to work out. It's an amazing show. They're good people, <v Speaker 2>They're going to do the right thing. And you know, <v Speaker 2>where a lot of parents would say, you're never going <v Speaker 2>to make this money again, go back. And he looked <v Speaker 2>at me, a guy that worked seven days a week <v Speaker 2>his whole life, he said, wait it out. Waited out. <v Speaker 2>And I never ever forgot that he was able to <v Speaker 2>see it all works. But it was. It was. It <v Speaker 2>was really cool, you know, and I felt it could <v Speaker 2>be a win win, and and CBS was great, and <v Speaker 2>and HBO, who was involved in it at the time, <v Speaker 2>they were great. Ray was great, Letterman's Company was great. <v Speaker 2>A lot of people were involved. And you know, it's <v Speaker 2>the way you do it. You know, there's no reason <v Speaker 2>for it to become an f U match. You know, <v Speaker 2>you have to understand it is business. It is the <v Speaker 2>business of show, you know. And they were and I <v Speaker 2>understood where they were coming from, you know, and they <v Speaker 2>were like, you know, who were you before the show? <v Speaker 2>And I said, absolutely, but i've However, the last five years, <v Speaker 2>I think i've you. <v Speaker 1>Know, yeah you you earn't your stripes? <v Speaker 2>Yeah, but those days in TV are over, totally, totally over. <v Speaker 2>It is now a very different game. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, boy, it really is, isn't it. There's there's nothing well, <v Speaker 1>I don't do they even I mean, what's it's the <v Speaker 1>latest big sitcom? <v Speaker 3>I guess we're talking about that not too long ago, <v Speaker 3>the big modern family, Modern Family. <v Speaker 4>And now I feel like show. <v Speaker 3>The only real sitcoms per se left are like cartoon <v Speaker 3>ones like Family Guys, Simpson's. <v Speaker 2>It's one of the toughest genres, as you know. And <v Speaker 2>I think audiences have become so sophisticated because television is <v Speaker 2>what film used to be in my opinion, as far <v Speaker 2>as the quality, I mean, some of the shows that <v Speaker 2>are out today, oh my god, are better than most <v Speaker 2>of the stuff of the theater. Because in TV, the <v Speaker 2>streamers are now starting to leave the creatives alone. Here's <v Speaker 2>the keys to the stage, give us eight episodes. Let <v Speaker 2>me know if you need anything. So all the great <v Speaker 2>creatives who are tired of being beaten up by the <v Speaker 2>studios and noted to death. Do this do that where <v Speaker 2>you have attorneys and accountants give the notes on shows. <v Speaker 2>Those days are over. And now that's why you look <v Speaker 2>at TV and you go, wow, look how amazing he committed. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, doing making a pretty good splash out there, no <v Speaker 1>qui his cowboy. <v Speaker 2>Hat, Yeah, no question. I mean, you know, look at <v Speaker 2>the stars that are on TV, Coral and Aniston and <v Speaker 2>Reese Witherspoon and Lord we were. <v Speaker 4>Just talking about that show four seasons. Have you seen <v Speaker 4>that show? <v Speaker 2>It's terrific. <v Speaker 4>Yeah, it really is so well done. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, so well done. Yeah, oh my god. <v Speaker 1>If you're a fan of everything we do here at <v Speaker 1>tuned In with Jim Cummings, you could support the show <v Speaker 1>on Patreon for bonus exclusive podcasts as well as early <v Speaker 1>in ad free access to the show itself, prize drawings, <v Speaker 1>and more. You'll feel the difference, so go ahead and <v Speaker 1>join the tuned In family today at patreon dot com <v Speaker 1>slash Jim Cummings Podcast. <v Speaker 2>Do it now? <v Speaker 4>All right? Well, now time it comes the time in <v Speaker 4>the podcast, we're going to play a little game. Are <v Speaker 4>you Are you up for it? <v Speaker 3>It's a voice swap game. I'll explain la against this guy. <v Speaker 3>It's not going against. It's not going against. There's no <v Speaker 3>you got to keep your shirt. <v Speaker 2>Thank god. Fortunately, yes, thank god. <v Speaker 3>So how it works Jim Jim will say a line <v Speaker 3>of one of his characters, one of his famous characters, <v Speaker 3>in his character voice, and then you'll repeat that line <v Speaker 3>but in one of your character voices. <v Speaker 2>I only have two voices, so let's do too. Then okay, <v Speaker 2>there you go. Okay, so I'm in large. Yeah that's okay. <v Speaker 1>Well I'll throw a little dark wing duckcatcher. <v Speaker 2>Ah, there we go. <v Speaker 1>I am the terror that flaps in the night. <v Speaker 4>How about his blow? <v Speaker 2>I am the terror that flaps in the night. Yes, <v Speaker 2>I'll terror. <v Speaker 1>It gets no respect. <v Speaker 2>You really do the face? <v Speaker 1>I know, the face is what's really puts over there. <v Speaker 2>You're okay, all right? You know I would have that day. <v Speaker 3>You know, we see that with a lot of people <v Speaker 3>when they do impressions, they really morph into the person. <v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's fascinating to watch. <v Speaker 3>I mean James Arnold Taylor, you know James Arnold Taylor <v Speaker 3>man his impressions and he'll go through and like you <v Speaker 3>just see the contortions in his face with every little <v Speaker 3>character because he does this one man, you know, sixty <v Speaker 3>second little thing where he just goes from you know, <v Speaker 3>character to character to actor to the actor and he'll <v Speaker 3>transition mid sentence and it's just fascinating. <v Speaker 2>He was Harry Jim Carrey's yeah, Oh. <v Speaker 3>Absolutely, okay, And now we'll do the voice swap backwards. <v Speaker 3>So let's let's do a line is e or and poo? <v Speaker 4>How about that? <v Speaker 1>Oh okay, legs for remembering me, Thanks for remembering me <v Speaker 1>and bringing the honey. <v Speaker 2>God see that. That just that's amazing. I hear you <v Speaker 2>do that, and I go, I'm gonna be okay. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's a he's comfort food for the soul is <v Speaker 1>and we need it now more than ever, don't we? Yeah, <v Speaker 1>more than what you said? <v Speaker 2>What has happened? <v Speaker 1>I know too much? Bouncing too many bound And. <v Speaker 3>Then I have one more written down from the movie planes, <v Speaker 3>your character Chug and the specific wheels. The specific line <v Speaker 3>is corn. It gives you gas. Corn, He gives you gas. <v Speaker 3>Who is one of your characters who would say that? <v Speaker 3>Who has a who's the gassest character? <v Speaker 4>Tas? <v Speaker 2>Okay? <v Speaker 4>Corn? It gives you gas? <v Speaker 1>Well had that deep corn? It gives you gas. <v Speaker 2>Complete with. <v Speaker 1>Lost a little air on that one. <v Speaker 2>Sorry, gang, How lucky is your grandkid? Oh yeah, I <v Speaker 2>mean I mean I know you're he one. <v Speaker 1>No, God, a couple of months. <v Speaker 2>Oh not even not even Yea, it's going to be <v Speaker 2>grandpa and you're going to have all these and it's good. <v Speaker 2>You're gonna be the fave. Yeah, it's going to be. <v Speaker 1>It's gonna be a beautiful. <v Speaker 2>Taz Who did Taz before you? <v Speaker 4>Wow? <v Speaker 1>Blank? Yeah, he's You know. <v Speaker 2>I want to say something real quick because I know <v Speaker 2>you've always been incredibly humble and and truly truly wanted greatness. <v Speaker 2>Well you know what it is. You know what it <v Speaker 2>is because we know the ones that that don't have <v Speaker 2>any of that that wonderful grace which you've always had. <v Speaker 2>But when you came backstage I'll say this real quickly, <v Speaker 2>uh to the green room at the comedy clubs and uh, <v Speaker 2>the comedian John Dacrosso was was on the show who <v Speaker 2>has has done some voice work and is really talented <v Speaker 2>with with when you walked in and he knew you <v Speaker 2>immediately immediately, and he was like this this he goes, <v Speaker 2>this is one of the great he goes, because this <v Speaker 2>is my mel blank. And he said that and it's <v Speaker 2>really there's no question, no, no, no, And he got emotional. <v Speaker 2>He's a great guy, he's a great stand up. It's <v Speaker 2>a funny actor and he but when you walked in, <v Speaker 2>because I didn't want to tell me because I knew, <v Speaker 2>we knew you. And when you walked in, I watched <v Speaker 2>his face. I was the guy with the crazy must <v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, did you go get the bar at an hour? <v Speaker 1>Monopoly guy? <v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, the monopoly exactly. But it's just great to <v Speaker 2>see the reaction of people when they when they know that, <v Speaker 2>and it's it's You've been such a gift to so <v Speaker 2>many of us and always a mensch. And when I <v Speaker 2>started out, you were in one of my first sessions <v Speaker 2>that I think we did with Bill Cop Yeah. <v Speaker 1>Possibly two Stupid Dogs, Yeah yeah, or one of those. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, and uh Eke the Cat, I think you were <v Speaker 2>in the Yeah yeah, and what that goof Troop? I <v Speaker 2>was goof Troop? Yeah, we repeating that. <v Speaker 1>And in the movie movie another. <v Speaker 2>Movie, I was Tank, which is like you know, yeah <v Speaker 2>and you repeat of course. But uh, just thanks to <v Speaker 2>be so great on and off stage, man, God, thank you, <v Speaker 2>we love you and that and a lot of people <v Speaker 2>that knew I was doing this podcast, are like, please <v Speaker 2>tell Jim what he means to it, you know, and <v Speaker 2>and everything. It's very true because I was brand new <v Speaker 2>and you were always so kind, and you know, you're nervous. <v Speaker 2>You walk in around these legends and you're even though <v Speaker 2>you know we're in the same age ish, you know, <v Speaker 2>you you have heroes early on. <v Speaker 1>I'm much older than him, by the way, just for <v Speaker 1>the record, in the lot, yes, bless. <v Speaker 3>That seems like a very natural end. Thank you so much, <v Speaker 3>so much, Thank. <v Speaker 2>You, Craig Barrett. Ladies, I tell you he once said, <v Speaker 2>that's that Jewish. There's a tall drink of water. I <v Speaker 2>could knock him out. I did it with Sammy, right, smokey. <v Speaker 2>He called Sammy smoky. He called Tammy smoky. Yeah, I know, yeah, <v Speaker 2>smoke Yes. <v Speaker 4>I'll just do a little outro here. <v Speaker 2>Sure well. <v Speaker 3>Thank you everybody for tuning in to another episode of <v Speaker 3>Tuned In with Jim Cummings. Today we were joined by <v Speaker 3>Brad Garrett. Thank you so much for being here. Serve <v Speaker 3>really appreciate it. If you're ever in Vegas, stop by <v Speaker 3>Brad Garrett's Comedy Club overally MGM here the show, come <v Speaker 3>check it out. Absolutely If you're a fan of this content, <v Speaker 3>be sure to like and subscribe. It helps the YouTube <v Speaker 3>algorithm find you more videos like this. And if you <v Speaker 3>like this content so much, be sure to subscribe to <v Speaker 3>our Patreon, where you can find bonus content, additional interviews <v Speaker 3>that nobody else gets to see, not even here on YouTube. <v Speaker 4>You can even see a. <v Speaker 3>Little bit of a pre show credits, you know, a <v Speaker 3>little sneak peek behind the scenes. If you want some merchandise, <v Speaker 3>go to Jim Cummings Closet on Shopify. And I think <v Speaker 3>that just about does it. We will see you in <v Speaker 3>the next one. Oh, before I forget, Before I forget, <v Speaker 3>do you have anything that you want to advertise or <v Speaker 3>plug it all? No, No, it's all over, it's all right, amazing, <v Speaker 3>all right, Well, thank you very much. <v Speaker 4>That was great
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