Messy DrewVORCE: Sidora vs Pittman Legal Breakdown

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Speaker 1: Hey, rain Drops on today's episode Reality Crime Stories. Look, I'm not gonna say this is a crime, but a lot of people.

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Speaker 2: Are saying it's a crime against humanity.

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Speaker 1: Because we are going to discuss the latest of day in the messy divorce proceedings of Real Housewives of Atlanta star Juice So Dora and her strange husband Ralph Pittman. So to update, rain Draws, Courtney Parker, Judge, Tyranny and I are going.

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Speaker 2: To discuss this particular situation.

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Speaker 1: As you know, Trany, Tyranny is gonna give us the law. Courtney is gonna give us the mess, and I'm.

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Speaker 2: Going to give.

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Speaker 3: Are giving the mess.

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Speaker 2: Courtiny's here to give a mess.

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Speaker 1: Child, Tyranny's here to give the law and a hobby here, Justice state the facts. Okay, So let me start with my job, Courtney. Okay, facts and nothing but all.

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Speaker 3: Right, change how our roles have changed.

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Speaker 1: Right, right, right in this particular case. Right So, as I was saying, dreus a. Dora was ordered to vacate the Georgia home she shares with her estrange husband Raph Pittman.

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Speaker 2: Drew has to be out of the house by May thirty.

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Speaker 1: First, the judge said that due to the current financial circumstances of the parties, until Drew leaves the home, they will continue splitting the expenses. But this is where things go a little dicey, and I want to start here as there's more development, because we're going to talk about the how much money Drew is saying she makes against Ralph, in addition to how Drew wants rap thrown in jail due to leak text messages, So stay tuned for that. But first thing first, the bomb drop, which is why people are calling this a crime against humanity, is the fact that Drew and Ralph will share joint legal custody of their kids, but Ralph was awarded primary physical custody of the kids during the school year, and Drew will have parenting time on alternating weekends starting in August.

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Speaker 2: Now, Courtney, you and mama and a mama bear.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I was telling tyranny before we started that. As a viewer, right, it's rare for us to keep reading these stories of mothers losing primary physical custody of the kids, not just custody, but.

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Speaker 2: Primary physical custody.

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Speaker 1: So before we get down to the law and nothing but the law of Courtney, Are you shocked by this?

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Speaker 3: I am in the sense of and Tyranny and I have talked about this off camera before because she was like, when I was going through my legal battles with my daughter, I made sure to get both legal and physical I full legal and physical custody. But again, I live in LA I live in California, and it is what we're seeing more of, and what we're seeing in this case is more fathers are now stepping up and getting rid of the stigmas of it's mama's baby. Do you know what I'm saying, Well, I shocked, No, because this is kind of the repercussions and I don't know. This is us situation where I don't know either party. I am just a fan like you watching it happen, not in real time in TV time, in TV real time like everybody else. But when you have someone that is a personality on a reality show such as Drew and all your tea is spilled moment by moment by moment, frame by frame by frame. No, I'm not surprised because the men who are not cast members on this show, or most of them who want to be out of the public SYE have to me a strong defense in saying, I don't want my kids subject to your lifestyle. I don't want them in you know, the public as well as I don't want our dirty laundry being aired out week per week, per week because you want to be this personality. So in Drew's case, I would say no, I'm I'm not surprised, and I gotta be honest, I'm glad that more men. It could never be me, but I'm glad that more men are getting their moments and showing up and being equal parents, and the law is respecting that.

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Speaker 1: So let's let that's a perfect segue for you, tyranny. They are resigning in the state of Georgia.

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Speaker 2: Based on this judgment.

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Speaker 1: The judge said that, look, Drew is able to be with the kids and starting in August.

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Speaker 2: But during the school year it needs to be raped.

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Speaker 1: And the reason why it needs to be rapped is the fact that they were saying that when the kids were in the hands of dreu soidorra that they missed substantial yeah, a substantial amount of time out of school, which is why he has them physically doing the school year. And I want to say that the number that was mentioned was something along the lines of twenty days of school so teary like all of that. In terms of Georgia law family law, is this something that happens where a judge says, based on school year, yeah, buddy, he gets primary physical custody during the school year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because well here right, No, hey, Bran drives. Y'all know, if I say anything, I have to give y'all my infamous disclaimer. I do not speak on open cases, I do not give legal advice, and I honestly do not know the facts of anything that is going on. I can explain Georgia law, and the first thing that I will say, and I have said on this show several times, I think that the way you opened up was really interesting because you said from the viewers standpoint, so from the court standpoint, the standard is always the same.

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Speaker 5: What is in the best interest of the child.

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Speaker 4: It is never about a gender, a man, a woman, who and what situation is in the best interests of the child. That is always what is going to be the standard that the court follows and leans on. And so again, I guess maybe because you're seeing people get more attention in the media or on social media.

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Speaker 5: And people are becoming aware of it.

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Speaker 4: But fathers have been awarded custody for as long as we've been having children. Again, the public may be be coming more aware of it, but it always has been the standard.

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Speaker 5: Is what is in the best interest of the children.

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Speaker 3: Here's what I find really interesting though, because we talked about stigmas, and every time we hear a father are getting you know, full getting granted full custody, getting awarded child support, it always the stigma of you know, men and particularly black men not taking care of their kids or are being present in their kids' lives.

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Speaker 5: That is a bad stigma.

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Speaker 4: Spatistically, black men show up for their children more than any other race, even statistically.

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Speaker 3: Right, But like I said, we're dealing in terms of stigmas. Is it also could it also be a negative stigma when we hear that fathers are awarded their children, they're awarded custody of their children and even care for their kids, that the mom has to subsequently be a bad mom to lose custody of her kids. I feel like that's something else that we need to address because everybody is like in the comments, how could you what kind of mother are you to lose custody of your kids. So you know, as the same way we look at and we're up in arms about the negative stigmas for fathers who gain custody of their children. Let's at least think about it from the perspective of and I like how you're saying, just legally, what's in the best interest of the child. How moms sometimes get painted as bad moms when they lose custody.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that we also, again we talk about this. I say this.

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Speaker 4: I feel like I'm always repeating myself, but I think that I have to because people truly do.

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Speaker 5: Not understand how the legal systems works.

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Speaker 4: They go on the headlines, so they hear something solationous, They pick up on one fact, and they are now using that coming up with presumptions that just generally would never fly in court. And the court is going to evaluate all of the facts and circumstances of the case.

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Speaker 5: So they're not going to look at one just fact.

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Speaker 4: It's not just going to be okay, so who should have the child in the summer, or who signs up for more summer activities. They're going to look across the board. That's going to be physical custody. That is going to be emotional welfare, that is going to be financial welfare. So again, we are looking to put the children in an environment is that it's most stable for them. We are not thinking about the mother or father. We are thinking about the parents. And again, a lot of times in the public you simply do not have enough facts to know what has been going on because the courts also are very very hesitant about changing something that is already in place. So this may not be anything new to the family or to the children, but if it comes publicly, now your shop. But this is what the children are accustomed to, and the courts generally try not to disrupt their lives as much as possible.

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Speaker 3: So is that could that be because you're not You're not Carlos. Let me ask you this.

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Speaker 4: Question why, Because Carlos is not the messy one today, He's the factual one today.

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Speaker 3: So since I'm the messy one, could that be the reason why she has to leave the marital home and he gets to stay and she's getting kicked out of these because that she's getting kicked out of the house, Yes, she wants him thrown in jail. I still I've got to find out why.

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Speaker 2: No, I can tell you why.

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Speaker 1: She So Rath is known for living in the basement, right, so they are married couple. There were allegations of fidelity because Rath went to Tampa, which, by the way, Ninnie Leeks and I would be in Tampa or May fourteenth. Get out of your basement and come see me and Nini Leagues on tour May fourteenth in Tampa. Ralph, you are more than welcome to join if Drew has the kids on that day.

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Speaker 2: Now, with that being said, see Corney, I took a little only they're out of.

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Speaker 3: School because she'll have them for the summer.

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Speaker 1: He'll be well, they said, August child. But hey, arrangements in advance, all these words. So with that being said, he gets to leave the basement, go upstairs and have all of the house and she has to vacate the home, which to me was interesting because even during all of all of that, they also had to show how much they make. And she is a five season housewife, and in my years producing housewives, if you're on the show for five seasons, you're making at least and when I say the least, the very least, the absolute very least, you're making okay, is twenty thousand an episode, right, and that's being extremely conservative.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it gets real, right the court documents that they submitted, she says she's making twelve.

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Speaker 1: Thousand a month, which as a producer, for me, unless you have a bad lawyer who can negotiate, I've never known a five season housewife on a hit show make less than twenty thousand an episode. That's my experience, so that we always shocked by that. They're also saying that Ralph conversely makes seventy thousand a month, which shocked us because we all been said, well, damn rap, what do you do for a living and are you single?

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Speaker 2: So the thing for a lot of people.

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Speaker 3: Didn't go through my head real quick.

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, hang rout, hey, Ralph, that basement must be a good batchelor path. But with that being said, Ralph does stuff in tech and the money's in tech girls, right. So the thing that was interesting is she did say that due to the oldest son, so she has an older son that she had in a previous relationship. She told the judge that she is fearing that her and her son is going to be homeless, and she is begging him to reverse the mandate where she has to be let out, I mean out by May thirty first, and that's where she outlined that Rap's income is three times more than hers and she's afraid that her oldest son and she will be homeless. So the removal of her leaving the house to me still isn't clear. And Judge, obviously I know you can touch on all the.

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Speaker 4: I cannot touch on this, but I have been sitting here because there is one thing that I want to.

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Speaker 2: Clarify, and just yes, please.

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Speaker 5: That the audience understands.

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Speaker 4: Anytime there is a separation of a marriage, you have to separate the essence. It's hard, it's a terrible time, but that is what the culmination of an end of a marriage results in. Again, the assets have to be split, and it's not that the judge or anyone is kicking anyone out. The judge is determining who is going to have possession. Those are two different things, right. The judge has to give possession of certain assets in the most echable way possible, based again on the facts that may or may not be public. And so I just want to continue to remind people that this is a legal proceeding.

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Speaker 5: It's not a headline.

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Speaker 4: And a judge has a really tough job when you're talking about how are we going to split up? I mean I had a friend she was presiding over a marriage or divorce, and she kept telling the couple, you all have to figure out what you want to do with your dog.

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Speaker 5: They could not. They refused to come up with an agreement.

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Speaker 4: She was forced to give them a week to say goodbye and they had to rehne the dog.

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Speaker 5: But these are the things.

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Speaker 4: Tough things happen when you don't come to the agreement yourself or keiki ki ki with us just here.

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Speaker 5: And you always say.

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Speaker 4: Get a prenum so that you know the rules in advance, so that you can avoid these things where you are putting your faith in someone else. Judges can only do what they can do based on the facts of the case.

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Speaker 3: So it's it's Carlos, do we know if Drew had aprinam?

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Speaker 2: No they did not.

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Speaker 1: They they met, they got married a few months after meeting.

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Speaker 2: And although she.

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Speaker 1: Was an actress, listen as Tyranny knows. Being a judge, it's the same old story, right, we met, we fell in love, we got married A few months later we were in bliss and.

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Speaker 5: In a few months it's more than enough time to get a prenup.

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Speaker 1: People, you know, so that happens, you know that happened between them, and you know she is she is here.

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Speaker 2: But let me ask you this, based on the fact that.

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Speaker 1: Because they're in a situation where the judge has information where he or she is, I don't they didn't mention the.

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Speaker 2: Judge where the judge he or she.

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Speaker 1: Feels like judicial leave the home based on whatever circumstance of the judge felt during the proceedings that we may not be privy to publicly. If DRUSI do or can prove that her income isn't supplemented enough to where she and her son can find a home, does she have a case to stay in the house at least and.

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Speaker 4: A divorce proceeding, there is going to be a separation of assets, a division of assets. The only thing anyone in a courtroom is going to do is separate those so possession is decided.

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Speaker 3: And that just because it's been decided doesn't mean that once the once the divorce is final, that they can't split the proceeds like they have to figure out what they're going to do with the marital assets. But it's just like housing right now. She has two kids. I believe their ages are what like ten?

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Speaker 5: I have no idea what their age.

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Speaker 3: I'm waiting for Carlos to come back on screen.

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Speaker 2: Oh their ages, Yeah, if.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna use this, so I'm just waiting to finish.

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Speaker 2: No, no, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, their ages are ten and eight, so they are minor children. From what I'm gathering on. What I'm hearing is they're out of the she's out of the house temporarily, or she's out of the house until the divorce is final, and then will there be another separation of assets or in the settlement will she get something else or what.

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Speaker 4: Again, I'm not aware of anything related to this case. I can't speak on that case, but I can tell you that there can be a temperate order and they can be a permanent order.

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Speaker 5: And so on a temperate order.

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Speaker 4: It is basically going to be put in place until the final order. It may change in the final order, or it may actually just stay the same and continue.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's good to know. So this is not necessarily just sett in stone. This is right now. And let's also not twelve thousand dollars a month in Georgia. She can find a place to live. She shouldn't be homeless at twelve thousand dollars a month. It's not like she can't find other accommodations. She might just not be used to the accommodations. But you gotta do what you gotta do to also take care of and provide for your son, your other son, your other child. So if she's homeless, that's, you know, she's that's a that's a personal choice. Not necessarily she doesn't have any money.

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Speaker 2: She might not have one thousand. You can have a cute situation, cute little situation. Yeah, I agree with that.

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Speaker 1: And you know, the thing is what is happening now, And this is the most recent information that came out today, literally eighteen minutes ago. Courtney and tyranny. That's why we're always here for breaking news. So Drew wants Rap thrown in jail. It just keeps getting worse. She asks a judge to put him behind bars for leaking private text messages. In the filing, Drew told the course she's been famous since age eight.

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Speaker 2: Why is that funny?

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Speaker 6: That was an involuntary laugh, just been famous since she was eight Courtney, do you not know this?

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Speaker 3: I literally just found out about her from Housewives, But I have seen several of her.

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Speaker 2: You know, watch the game.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's right, she was on there.

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Speaker 2: She was girl Melody. I'm not she wasn't Girl Melody, the.

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Speaker 1: Girl that was Ti No, but she played like she was.

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Speaker 2: Yeah anyway, and she was t boss.

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Speaker 3: Would you consider that famous though, Corny, Hey, that wasn't my energy coming on. I was, I'm like.

00:23:44
Speaker 2: Trany s trying so hard.

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Speaker 3: Would you consider that famous?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm not in it.

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Speaker 3: I think that's popular or known.

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Speaker 4: It's just because you told her to be messy today.

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Speaker 2: I did not tell to me, Bessie.

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Speaker 1: I said she will be the bestie working about No, my friend, Courtney, that's a that's.

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Speaker 3: A very uh you're you're being very generous with the words famous.

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Speaker 2: But okay, okay.

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Speaker 1: Well, she told the course she's been famous since eight years old and said that her career had yes, and said that her career had been on the rise with the new song and several big projects. She claimed that on June tenth, twenty twenty five, Ralph gave private text messages he stole from her cell phone.

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Speaker 2: I'm putting the air coaster. That's what it says.

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Speaker 1: Okay stole from her cell phone to a media outlet before the divorce was filed. She said they were posted with false narratives purposely meant to place her in a negative light. Drew said Rap also posted her text on social media. She said he was trying to embarrass and disparage her. The paperwork alleged while it is clear and apparent that Rap has disdain for his estranged wife, such disdain does not give Rap the right to publicly humiliate Drew. Drew demanded that Ralph be fined one thousand dollars for every violation of the mutual restraining order in place when the divorce was filed, and asked for him to be thrown in jail for up to twenty days.

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Speaker 3: Well, here's what I will say. Here's what we're not saying out loud. Sounds like Drew as a What I've been starting to do is look at people's representation, and I've read up on the husband's lawyer. She is a you know, bad mamma drama lawyer. Is Rolph's lawyer, Miss Anderson attorney. Anderson is like top notch, top tier and FULLUS closure.

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Speaker 4: Precious Anderson is also my lawyer.

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Speaker 5: Oh, but thats not.

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Speaker 3: Gonna double me that.

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Speaker 2: She represents you.

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Speaker 5: She doesn't my estate planning. Oh how much he charges unbeknownst to me?

00:26:54
Speaker 2: Is she expensive?

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Speaker 1: She's worth every dime five or six worths.

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Speaker 2: Protection one of the day. That's just tyranny your honor. Yes, but that's what.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like I'm like, listen, if she's managed to protect Ralph using your your words, Uh, then you got to see how this thing has played out, and it's played out in his favor. And a lot of times the attorneys who are representing these people, uh don't get enough credit for being exceptional at what they do. So she's she's she seems what I've read about her, what little I know about her, And now it makes total sense if that's your attorney, Tyranny, she seems exceptional, so you know, and not giving any taking away anything from Drew attorney, but it doesn't feel like miss Precious Anderson is one to play with. She is winning in my DJ Khaled's.

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Speaker 1: Voice, Yeah, So can you shed any legal light on this notion that is it illegal in the state of Georgia to lead text messages for the sake of embarrassment.

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Speaker 4: So remember we talked about this before when we're talking about slander and libel. Yes, one of the key components is going to be that the statements have to be false. So you have to start with their two. They actually have to cause damage that you can quantify, and you have to prove that they were put in probably.

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Speaker 5: Marketplace or the third party.

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Speaker 4: So there's going to be tenants of the law that has to be proved.

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Speaker 5: You have to be able.

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Speaker 4: To show the harm and quantify it. And if I think that, you know, it's worth noting that if you're currently going through a divorce proceeding, the divorce judge could possibly address it if it's already a part of the proceedings, because remember family law, divorces go through civil law. If a crime has happened or a law has been broken, that now brings it into the criminal hemisphere. That's going to put it on two different tracks. Not to say that if you have a pending criminal charge it may or may not affect your divorce proceeding or vice varsa. But if it is a criminal charge per se, it is going to be in a different jurisdiction.

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Speaker 3: Got it. And I know you can't answer this, but it feels like these are just tactics to prolong to get things in your favor.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, and I don't know that it has any real bearing on the judgment that was just rendered for her to still vacate the house and him still have custody.

00:30:35
Speaker 2: Of these kids.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think that again, we have to always remember that, like I just said, civil criminal, two different tracks. Even if you're in a civil manner and you're talking about splitting up economics versus accusations of abuse, the judge is still going to deal with those tactics separately because the division of assets is very separate their conduct. So the judge may deal with them one at a time or together, but there's always going to be a resolve for both issues.

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Speaker 3: Separately and in two separate courts.

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Speaker 4: Correct now, it can It could possantly be with the same judge if it falls within the parameters of the divorce proceeding. But a judge can address conduct without addressing the finances, and vice versa. The judge can address the finances without addressing the conduct.

00:31:39
Speaker 5: The judge can just say I'm going to address this.

00:31:42
Speaker 4: First and then we will come back and address this going to be the perfect is interesting.

00:31:49
Speaker 2: You better cook tyranny.

00:31:51
Speaker 1: So but that's why I love having on this because a lot of people are questioning.

00:31:56
Speaker 2: Like the why, the why, the why, the why the why. And the main thing that I'm learning.

00:32:00
Speaker 1: From the University of Tyranny is the fact that there is so much information a that we aren't privy to just based on the proceedings that is happening number one, number two, not everything is done in one big and one big finalization order beings on the process. So that's why it is interesting in what you just outline, which is the judge could be saying I'm gonna deal with this first and then deal with that later and then and so on and so forth. Because I need to remind them rain drops Jordan rap are still legally married, they're not divorced, and there is a restraining order that is in place, which is why more than likely he's in the basement, she's upstairs, and why now that he has primary physical custody.

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Speaker 2: And again, I could have this.

00:32:52
Speaker 1: All wrong and stop by do judge if you if you're able to, because there is a restraining order that is mutual.

00:32:59
Speaker 2: That also could mean while she has to lead.

00:33:01
Speaker 1: The premises due to him not having primary physical cussin.

00:33:06
Speaker 3: To be able to roam.

00:33:06
Speaker 2: Could that be the case, judge.

00:33:09
Speaker 4: So again I can't speak on their case, but I could just tell you that again, a judge is going to take all of those things into consideration, right, because you have to deal with each issue as you moved through the divorce proceedings.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I love about everything that you've said and everything that you've taught both Carlos and I and the rain drops is it really allows us to understand the position of a judge and it not being emotional like it really so you've always said, it's just based on the facts. It's just based on the facts. We as the audience and people who are getting this little slithers of information, we are react, and nine times out of ten we're reacting to the emotions that we're seeing, to the tears that were being shed on the screens, to the comments. You know, I'm very trigger happy when it comes to the comments on what I agree. But it really does put into perspective the law and order of things and the order of things is Hey, there, there's this couple. They're on the you know, they're going through a divorce. There are restraining orders in place, and there are children involved, and so we have if we're solely looking at it from family law perspective, we've got to do what's going to be in the best interests of the children. The only emotions that are being taken into consideration are that of the stability and well being an emotional state of the kids. The parents are expected to be parents, The adults are expected to be adults, and then handle the other affairs unemotional if at all possible. Uh, and just get to the facts of the matter that are you know, that are still be in the best interests of separating as cleanly as possible. I like that you keep reminding us, and it just clicked for me that this is not about how we feel about a thing, It's about the facts stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and listen, a lot of people are basing their bias on the show. Listen, Rap isn't painted as a good person on the show based on the power of just him and Drew. You know, it has nothing to do with production. The producers is based on the fact that the moment they got on the show, we were told that he was in Tampa doing who knows what.

00:35:46
Speaker 2: He has denied that he was cheating.

00:35:48
Speaker 1: She says he did, and we have seen them having this very tumultuous marriage. And Andrew so Door has a lot of fans. I love Juice Door. She's a friend of mine. She's been on my podcast. I've been very encouraging to her, saying how she needs to walk away from the situation to better her life.

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Speaker 2: I'm not against Ralph because of that. I have met Ralph. He was nice to me, and I only judge people based on how they interact with me. I'm not married, I'm not in god bedroom.

00:36:19
Speaker 1: I don't know all the details, and so I can only base things on what I am aware of, what I see with my own eyes. The thing with Ralph is, unfortunately, Yeah, people are like, he you're a nasty man for taking the kids away from her, and I get that base on just the society we live in where mothers are harolded as being the best parent out of the bunch. However, the judge made a decision based on facts that he or she saw. That we are privy to some, but we're not privy to all. And I think in that we have to.

00:37:00
Speaker 2: Respect the judge's decision.

00:37:03
Speaker 4: And I think that you want to always remember like the father can speak for himself, the mother can't speak for herself, right the court. When children are involved, it is our job to speak for the children. The children has to have a champion.

00:37:21
Speaker 5: What is best for the children.

00:37:23
Speaker 4: So I understand that headlines emotions will charge people and drive them to want to defend certain adults or certain parties.

00:37:34
Speaker 5: But again we cannot lose sight of that.

00:37:37
Speaker 4: We have to take into consideration the well being of children, right yeah, yeah, And.

00:37:46
Speaker 3: In this respect, the truancy in keeping kids out of school for twenty plus days, that's concerning. That's concerning.

00:37:57
Speaker 5: And in Georgia, you know, truancy charges can be brought against the parents.

00:38:06
Speaker 2: Explain that to us, please, So if.

00:38:10
Speaker 4: Your child is a minor child and does not go to school, you can be charged with truancy. The social worker is going to reach out to you, the school will file charges against the parent, and that is a real crime.

00:38:27
Speaker 2: Is does that crime sometimes include jail time?

00:38:31
Speaker 4: It depends on the jurisdiction, Okay, because like do you know again, it can include a fine and or jail time depending on the jurisdiction.

00:38:45
Speaker 3: Because I only know about this, and Carlos you may have experienced some of this when you have when you're running large productions, especially in scripted, you have to kids can only be out of school for x a number of days, and if they are out of school, then you have to legally, at least here in California, you have to have a tutor, a certified tutor, home school and homeschool you have to go through so many hoops to make sure that the child is learning. And it's the same with rules and unions, and there's a lot of this is my corporate executive studio executive hat on, but there are a lot of variables that have to be in play in order for minors to be able to even be with their parents.

00:39:53
Speaker 4: So the goal is not to prosecute parents. The goal is to have children in school right. And that doesn't mean that, oh my gosh, you lose your kid misses twenty days and now all of a sudden you know you're going to jail.

00:40:09
Speaker 5: It's an alarm like sometimes children are sick. You know, there's a thing of.

00:40:13
Speaker 4: Excused and unexcused absences, So that may exceed it, but that means that the school is getting involved to address it because as long as the children are minor, they are required to attend school.

00:40:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is unfortunately going to be ongoing. It literally is getting messier by the moment. And look, my heart goes out to the families, of course, Drew and rap and I say that the kids, but most importantly because you know, the kids are minors in this situation, and this is something to where in a perfect world, he as, you will want your parents get along for the sake of your welfare. Unfortunately that doesn't seem that does not seem to be the case. Right now, Before we end, I do want to read what Drew Sodora posted about what she's going through so that people, you know, my audience are the Reality fans, so they can understand exactly how she feels about it, because she did release a statement and I want to be able to read that because listen, I feel like at the end of the day, when you are a mother, despite mistakes you may have made intentionally or unintentionally, this this.

00:41:46
Speaker 3: It's tricky too because as a child outside of that marriage, so you're separating siblings. So yeah, it's this is not great. It's not She's not a bad mother from everything that we could see. So separations are hard, you know, Divorces are hard, especially when you have humans, you know, like children involved, because nobody wins. He doesn't win by not having their mother in the house. She doesn't win by not having the father in their lives there. It's gonna show up in one way or the other. I don't view it as a win that I had full legal and physical custody of my daughter because there's still things like donuts and dads that he wasn't there for. So it's there are things in variables, And like Tyranny says, if there is a way when things are good to better prepare for when they get tricky, then that's what you should do. Ask those important questions. It's like, what kind of parent are you? How is disciplined? Like everything needs to be discussed. You just brought up a good point. And Carlo, since we are both for baby lovers, what happens to the animals?

00:43:15
Speaker 5: Like all of those things.

00:43:17
Speaker 3: When you're falling in love and getting involved, you just have to have the real grown up conversations past the infatuation to just handle the business. But what did miss Drews say?

00:43:31
Speaker 5: And I just want to say, raindrops.

00:43:33
Speaker 4: You really have to also be patient with the court system because just think about an onion.

00:43:38
Speaker 5: It's just like an onion.

00:43:39
Speaker 4: You know, the court proceedings are layered and the court is going to peel it back layer by layer by layer. So you're not going to get all of it at one time. That's not going to be how court handles a case responsibly.

00:43:56
Speaker 5: They're gonna deal with one layer at a time.

00:44:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, very good. Note she just said. Some details regarding my divorce have recently become public, although the process is not yet finalized. During this time, Ralph and I are committed to co parenting and doing what's best for our children, whiles certain things are beyond my control. My focus remains on showing up every day as the best mother I can be. Living the public eye comes with challenges, but I'm choosing to move forward with grace, growth and intention. My children on my priority, and I'm committed to leading with love, peace and positivity. There is no ill intent towards anyone, just a continued focus on healing, evolving, and becoming the best version of myself.

00:44:50
Speaker 2: I thought that was mature.

00:44:51
Speaker 1: So rain Drops, we will update you as more information comes according any words.

00:45:02
Speaker 3: Now you know this, this part is hard. Tyranny and I are working on a new podcast called The Empty Nester and these are going to be parent things that come up when your children go away. And we were just talking about this on on what terms do you find yourself an empty nester? And so this is where my heart does break for Drew because she unfortunately the challenge of being a celebrity and famous, as she would call herself, is that you live a lot of your life out loud and in the public's eye. So I hope it resolves and resolves.

00:45:51
Speaker 5: Well, that was really sweet and shady at the same time.

00:45:55
Speaker 2: She can't help herself.

00:45:58
Speaker 1: Carney could not help herself. She literally cannot help herself. But that's why we love Courtney and that's why we love Tyranny Drops. We will start doing specials when it comes to some of these crime stories. So when there's our breaking news like what we just did today with Juice of Door rap Piment, because this has been crazy since last week and there's more information that came out, like I said today, which is why we want to hop on so you know where to find us to get all of the facts and just Tyranny's expertise drops, yes, and where can so when does the podcast The Empty Nesters launch, Courtney that you and Tyranny are just.

00:46:42
Speaker 3: Launch on Mother's Day, that is our new day, and tell them I can find it.

00:46:50
Speaker 4: And I am going to have plenty opinions about that because that is my first role, my most important role is a mother.

00:46:59
Speaker 5: And the transition has been really, really, really difficult for me. I had a hard time.

00:47:06
Speaker 4: I'm really just coming out of a little mini depression over it, and I felt like I went from being depressed to angry because I felt like people don't talk about this enough, Like I didn't feel really warned, right.

00:47:20
Speaker 3: Not.

00:47:22
Speaker 2: What happens when the children leave the nest?

00:47:25
Speaker 4: Yes, you just you hear about people just constantly talking about how they're going to get their lives back, They're going to do this, They're going to travel, they.

00:47:33
Speaker 5: You know, people have these positive outputs that I didn't experience.

00:47:37
Speaker 4: I've lived a full life with my children, and it was like one of the most unnatural things that's happened to me in life.

00:47:44
Speaker 5: Right. I didn't like it.

00:47:46
Speaker 4: I still don't like it, but I've adjusted better, and you know.

00:47:51
Speaker 5: Literally not to drag this all.

00:47:53
Speaker 4: When Courtney called me one day and wanted to talk about something, She's like, what are you doing?

00:47:57
Speaker 5: Are you busy?

00:47:58
Speaker 4: I'm like, no, I'm laying on the sofa depressed, like not doing anything because I don't know how to deal with being in this house alone without my children.

00:48:09
Speaker 5: She was so shocked that I was so honest.

00:48:12
Speaker 4: I was just really angry about it, like why didn't anybody tell me it was gonna be this hard?

00:48:18
Speaker 3: And that turned into a whole waiting Textell moment because I was like, wait, finally I can say this out loud, because they don't. They don't teach you how to be a parent, and they don't teach you how to let go.

00:48:33
Speaker 5: They don't, and how are you supposed to let go?

00:48:39
Speaker 4: Like, we come from a culture of people, you know, at the beginning of the time, all families basically stayed in a try together. There were babies, there were mothers, fathers.

00:48:50
Speaker 5: And elders. Those are your roads.

00:48:52
Speaker 4: Now there's the statistic that say you see your kid, let's than thirty times in life after they turned eighteen.

00:49:00
Speaker 5: That kisses me off.

00:49:03
Speaker 4: Like, I really I don't want to get on the soapbox today, but I am really.

00:49:11
Speaker 2: Your podcast so that.

00:49:16
Speaker 4: You will see a very opinionated Tyranny about this because I have a lot of opinions about empty nesting.

00:49:24
Speaker 1: Yeah well, Courtney, where can they find you and this podcast and support it.

00:49:29
Speaker 3: It's gonna be It's gonna launch on YouTube and then audible. We're in still talks right now of who's gonna have the audio versions of it. But wherever people uh find their podcast, Tyranny and I will be on talking shop about empty nesting and the tools that help you navigate being on your own and remembering you.

00:49:59
Speaker 5: And this is not just a gender thing. There no men who are equally struggling.

00:50:07
Speaker 3: Married couples who are going through it. My sister and brother in law going through it as their first their firstborn leaves the nest.

00:50:17
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, well listen, this is why I'm glad you guys are Ben doing this because the beauty of this is is one of his kind. So congratulations on this and I really can't wait to listen to it.

00:50:28
Speaker 2: So rain Drops.

00:50:30
Speaker 1: Once it's official, please follow my Instagram page two for updates because I'll be making sure the links in my bio for the girls.

00:50:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, thank you Carlos for giving us a year. People don't realize. And I said this at the first one and I'm going to say it at this one, and I know we'll be doing some pop ups here and now. But so rain Drops, please support anything this man does because Carlos King has allowed his platform has given opportunities, jobs, just advice and friendship to countless people, including myself, including Tyranny. You're a champion for not only women but for people in this very very very very very difficult industry. And so just kudos to you for always being honest, always being transparent, always leveraging your celebrity and your brand and your brain.

00:51:36
Speaker 4: You're brilliant man telling our stories no matter what the story is.

00:51:42
Speaker 5: That is a rarity.

00:51:44
Speaker 4: You know.

00:51:44
Speaker 5: We are colorful people who are not given the opportunity as often for our stories to be told.

00:51:51
Speaker 4: And so yes, definitely kudos to you. I think we should have a rain Drop party in Tampa.

00:51:56
Speaker 1: Yeah listen, and obviously you're more than well to come to any day that we have. But no, Courtney and Tierney, thank you guys so much. This has been a great great, great time for her for me as well. I've learned a lot according to law school, and she's two years of hitting me because I'm definitely looking into that myself, because I am in love of all of the legalities of the stuff we talk about.

00:52:22
Speaker 2: So I love you too, thank you so much.

00:52:25
Speaker 1: And listen, Cortney Parker called me a celebrity, so like, that makes me happy.

00:52:34
Speaker 3: You're a celebrity, yes, but.

00:52:39
Speaker 4: Housewives, I think you are.

00:52:44
Speaker 3: I would have been on a high note. I wouldn't have reacted the way that I reacted. Carlo said, well, you know I'm famous, and Drew, if you're watching, I was, Shay, that was surprise.

00:53:03
Speaker 2: But I am duh, I'm done. I love you guys so much. Have a good weekend, lady,