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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: He's Mac McClung. He is a part of the Windy City Bulls and the all time leading scorer in G League history. Were you aware of that record the other night when you put up fifty nine.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a really cool moment.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 5: I think my teammates they were they're like, you're getting this record tonight. So they had my support and they really wanted me to break it. So it was a really cool moment.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: How much could you score in a game?

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Speaker 3: The fifty nine was pretty exhausting, So I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I don't know how much more I could do than that, So I'd probably say that's close to my limit.

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Speaker 2: So you can't go eighty three like Bam out of Bayo.

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Speaker 3: I haven't done it yet, man, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: That's that's incredibly impressive, I think, no matter what the situation is.

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Speaker 3: So that's that was really cool.

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Speaker 2: What are you told? Because we see your abilities, but what do teams tell you when you get a ten day contract or you're brought up for a little while and then you go back to the G League.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's kind of different in every situation. You know, I think, you know, being in a situation where you're fighting to find a roster spot. Different teams need different things, so whatever it is, I try to adapt and do that, you know.

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Speaker 3: And it's been tough, man, A lot.

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Speaker 5: Of times I've I've been told, you know, you're an NBA player, Like a coach I had actually one year, you know, being on a two way year at the bottom of the roster. You made the roster, but you're kind of the guy that goes back and forth. And I had a coach tell me one year, he's like, man, you're an NBA player, Like all you need is an opportunity, and like almost like was laughing.

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Speaker 3: I was like, well, you got to give me that opportunity.

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Speaker 5: Really, I'm just trying to make the most of whatever this situation is. It's it's tough, man.

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Speaker 2: Well you hear about you don't play defense, or you're not good at playing defense, you're not good off the ball, like these are things that have been said. Are those fair? Those fair criticisms?

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Speaker 5: You know, my two games this year when I got called up at the beginning of the year where I got legitim minutes, I was actually leading in the league and steals.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know if I agree with that totally. So it's tough. There's always gonna be something, man.

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Speaker 5: I felt like, that's the thing I've been trying to do in the G League is just show like, oh you said this wasn't that. That's well, that's not the case. And some people are always going to say certain things, man. But I've really got a lot of love and respect from you know, peers in the league that I really appreciate and coaches in the league that I really looked up too. So I think just just trying to find that opportunity in that right situation.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 2: What was your welcome to the NBA moment?

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Speaker 3: I would say with the with the Lakers.

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Speaker 5: That was where I started, and that team was Lebron, Carmelo Rondo, Dwight Howard, and I was just like, I'm this kid from this small talent Gates city.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, what am I in some video game right now?

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Speaker 5: So that that was shocking and something I had to adjust to for a couple of days.

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Speaker 2: Did you get to keep the uniform? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely. I always always try to make sure I keep that and have it. You know, some of my kids hopefully can see it one day.

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Speaker 2: Do you introduce yourself to Lebron or does he say lo to you?

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Speaker 5: I would I definitely introduce myself, And yeah, I don't think he in that situation he would ever have to introduce himself to me. So yeah, it was an honor being just a part of that and getting to see some things.

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Speaker 2: But are you starstruck on the floor when you're playing, like I'm guarding this guy that I grew up watching. Did you have that moment?

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Speaker 5: I think in my first year, you know, you just adjusted that. I think at the end of the day, we're all competitors and you want to win, and you kind of flip that switch once you get on the floor. But there's a level of respect, you know when you're a little kid and you watch someone and they mean something to you. They make you love the game that you're always going to have for those people.

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Speaker 2: Do you think you're too good at dunking that it overshadowed you as a basketball player, that maybe you were looked at as he does that and not maybe being fair to your eyes actual basketball game.

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Speaker 5: I think that that could be maybe something from the outside of eye. But like these scouts and these teams, like their job is to know basketball players. So I think anybody that like knows basketball like that is just something I got to be a part of, and I'm incredibly grateful for I'll lean into it, you know, like that was such a cool thing that I got to do. There's I'm never gonna be like, oh man, I hate dunking now because of that. Like that's a beautiful part of my life. And I think, you know, the people that really love basketball and inner basketball, like that's just a part of me.

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Speaker 3: That's not really who I am.

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Speaker 2: He's Mac McClung, the Windy City Bulls.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 2: But why not be in the Slam Dunk Contest this year?

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Speaker 5: Well, they quite frankly, they didn't really want me in it this year, so that was it was like a they wanted me in it, and then some things happened and uh, you know, it kind of just went back and forth and at the end they kind of didn't want me in the contest. So I'd already prepared. That's why I released those dunks onial media because I'd already prepared. And I was like, well, you know, I teamed up with a company marketing and I was like, well, I might as well make the most of this.

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Speaker 2: But I'm just was it you weren't on a roster or is that why they didn't want to in the slam dunk contest?

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Speaker 3: No, I made the Chicago Bulls roster.

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Speaker 5: Maybe a little bit before that, so I don't know they told me that it was It was just it was a weird situation, man. I think they they said a couple guys didn't want to do it if I was in it, and I was like, Okay, well I don't want to ruin that, and.

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Speaker 2: Hey, what what Why wouldn't they want to be in there because they you were going to win.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, man, I feel like these a lot of these guys are really talented, so that wouldn't make sense to me. I mean a lot of things in this league don't make sense a lot of time. I'm just going with the flow, man, I really am just going with the flow.

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Speaker 6: Off.

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Speaker 2: How would you do Michael Jordan in his prime you in your prime slam dunk contest?

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Speaker 3: That's a tough question, Dan.

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Speaker 5: I think, uh, the times have changed, like kind of like in the game of basketball, like everything progresses. So I think if Michael Jordan was in this era, he would probably have so much different dunks and so many creative things. So I mean I would I think I'd be a little crazy to say I'd take over MJ like that. Man, so and I got a lot of so much respect and love for him. I would never say that I'd beat him, but it'd be fun.

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Speaker 3: I would. I would definitely take the challenge. It'd be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: Have you met him?

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Speaker 3: No, never met MJ before. To be super cool.

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Speaker 2: Though, can you leave from the foul line.

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Speaker 5: My my best jumps are off two feet when I was in high school, man, when I was when I was younger, I used to be that long ago Matt.

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Speaker 8: Years to everyone you were you were really you got you got like viral famous in high school, it was like Zion Williamson, this guy you know, Everyboddy wanted to see those videos like did you feel like a star when you were in high school?

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Speaker 3: That was some crazy, crazy times.

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Speaker 5: I was in a town of fifteen hundred people, so everybody already kind of knew me. And it was the cool part about it was when we would travel to different schools, they would like school would like shut down early because people wud be outside waiting for the games, and it kind of felt like we were the kind of like this band that was traveling. It was like me and my best friends. Man, it was such a cool experience. And you know, you go on YouTube and be like, oh, that got two million views last night.

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Speaker 3: It's just it was.

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Speaker 5: It was so weird being from a small town and like getting that attention. Man, But it was really cool for me and my friends.

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Speaker 2: So it was boy band. You were like, you know, new kids on the block or one dimension on what is it one direction?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we weren't that cool, but we were good.

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Speaker 9: Man.

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Speaker 3: It really did make us feel good.

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Speaker 2: So what's the future? What are you twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: Twenty seven years old? The future for me, man, I'm not sure.

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Speaker 5: I've really like kind of going back to this situation and the record and my G League career.

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Speaker 3: Like, all I've tried to do.

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Speaker 5: All I try to do is make the most of wherever I'm at in that moment, and whether that be the dunk contest, the opportunity I was getting with that or being in the G League I've been. I've just tried to make the most of the situation. So I'm not attached to the outcome, but just whatever happens is. I really truly believe I'm not a victim of anything, man, So whatever happens is is how it's supposed to.

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Speaker 2: Be official height and weight.

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Speaker 3: I'm measured at the commun I measured six to two.

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Speaker 2: Okay, maybe it looks better when you're shorter, Like if you're six six doing that, it's not as impressive.

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Speaker 3: Yeah maybe I maybe wish I was six six. That would probably give.

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Speaker 2: Me a But if you're six six, you're not winning the Slam Dunk Contest, but you're playing in the NBA.

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Speaker 3: There we go. Well, that's that's the interesting trade off.

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Speaker 2: Hey, it's been fun. Ben entered ching. I hope you get that true shot where you get to actually play and uh, you know, prove a lot of these people wrong. So congratulations on the scoring record.

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Speaker 3: Dan, I really appreciate it, man, I appreciate you having me on. Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: It's Mac McClung. He is the all time leading scorer in G League history.

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Speaker 2: Yeing head coach of the Yukon Huskies, Dan Hurley on his best behavior so far no technicals? Is this a concerted effort to be on your best behavior here?

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Speaker 9: Not really, I'm pretty oblivious, you know, to the circumstances. But you know, maybe I don't know. I don't think I've ever gotten a technical in an NCAA tournament game. I would have to have my stat group, So I don't know, you know, maybe this time of year. You know, everyone knows that everyone's watching, so you know the referees also got to be careful that they don't give me a week technical.

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Speaker 2: Oh I hope I didn't jinx you here for tomorrow night. Yeah. Mick Cronin got one for clapping.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: I was pleasantly surprised. I didn't know what the obviously the prop bets. Well, I'm sure there were lots of them on. I don't know what I went off at, but uh, somebody wants.

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Speaker 2: Some money, are you now, Dan Hurley? Like Danny Hurley? Is that that's a previous wife.

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Speaker 9: No, I think, uh, maybe when I get in my sixties, I'll go back to Danny. When I want to feel younger because I'm old, maybe seventies I'll go back to Danny.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right. Uh, I know that you've reached out to a lot of people. When you consider the Lakers job. You reached out to Tom Izzo, who you face tomorrow night. What did coach say, because I know he was thinking about going to the Cavaliers? Uh the uh? What was that the year that Lebron left the Cavaliers he was going to win and coach? So what advice did he give you on the Lakers job?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, you know, coaches though, he uh he walked me through just you know, his his thought process when he went through uh you know, like the you know, the decision making of of making that move to the NBA and the pros and cons and uh you know he obviously you know at that time, you know, college was very different, and uh, you know, the point that coaching had made to me was, you know, hey, I think you really got to consider it our sport right now. It's uh, you know, it's it's it's so unregulated.

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Speaker 6: It's such a mess. Uh you know that.

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Speaker 9: You know I would have considered this more now than I did back when college basketball you know, wash you know, more regulated. So but I you know, coaches been there for me on lots of different things, you know, And I've studied coach for a long time, Like I have all the great coaches, you know, studied you know, their films as a high school coach, trying to learn you know, favorite practice drills of Tom Izzo, anything on motivation and leadership, culture building. And I've studied all the great coaches and taken advice from all the great ones.

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Speaker 2: Can you see yourself coaching at his age.

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Speaker 9: I can't see myself coaching at his age. But I also can't see myself not coaching. It's like, you know, like when you're part of teams and this is so much for a part of your identity. I always say to myself, I can't believe these guys are coaching in their seventies. Yeah yeah, but then you know, then you find yourself coaching in your seventies.

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Speaker 2: Like Patino, I mean, he's a life.

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Speaker 6: I mean, these guys are.

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Speaker 9: It's incredible to me, you know, like it really is the energy level how they You know, the thing about college you know, college coaching college basketball is like that, you know, the.

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Speaker 6: Head coach drives the organization.

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Speaker 9: I mean they drive a drive it, drive it and are pushing everyone around them to the max. And uh, you know at obviously you know what the amount of years those guys put in and what they achieved and to still be pushing that hard in their seventies incredible.

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Speaker 2: Can you be out coached?

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Speaker 9: I think that's a little bit of a uh whoever won the game out coached the other guy?

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Speaker 6: Thing?

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Speaker 9: You know, I think I think it's more about matchups, especially this time of the year. Yeah, You've got great coaches coaching all sixteen of these teams. Yeah, it all comes down try I think matchups, who's playing their best at this time of year, halftime adjustments and all that stuff.

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Speaker 6: I think it's way way overrated.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Dan Hurley, the Connecticut basketball coach, they got Michigan State tomorrow night. Saint John's getting a five seed after winning the Big East is blank.

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Speaker 6: Crap, you know, I mean, I mean, you know, crap.

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Speaker 9: And then having the you know, the two Big East teams, you know, in the same region.

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Speaker 6: You know, it's probably the same.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that they were hoping that there would be a rematch? I mean committee, Yeah.

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Speaker 9: I mean I think that they're definitely the Committee either got a weird sense of humor or they do a great job of trying to give the people what they want. And I think no matter how this week ends up in uh, you know, in DC, you're going to get an a lead eight game that's going to be you know, it's going to be incredible. And you've got you know, Duke, you know, Rick Patino and Saint John's Yukon in Michigan State.

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Speaker 2: I had somebody ask me this, and I didn't know if they were joking, and I realized they weren't. They said, can Ukon be a Cinderella story as a two seed? I go, no, Well, I'll ask you. Are you a Cinderella story this year?

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Speaker 6: No, I don't think so.

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Speaker 9: I think we've been uh, you know, consistently, you know, consistently great the whole year. You know, we haven't always yeah, we we haven't performed in the championship moments. So it'll be interesting to see how we respond this week. But uh, you know, we we played uh or we had as good a non conference wins as anyone in the country. Uh, and then we went nineteen and three in the Big East, so you know, and then uh, you know, we won our first to you know, first two tournament games, but the figure points. So I do think we're you know, we're kind of coming in, you know, a lot quieter than we did in twenty three and twenty four, and that's probably serves us pretty well.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious about the future of the mid major here, Dan, because I don't know if these last two years are an aberration, or is that the future of the blue Bloods are are going to take over and mid majors are not going to be what they used to be.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I definitely think that.

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Speaker 9: You know, I think it's gonna get tougher for mid majors because I think more high majors are going to spend more money in this offseason, so I think it's going to get even tougher. I think to make the NSAA Tournament, and then I think it's going to be tougher for the mid majors. But then I also on the flip side, I think you're going to see even more international players coming into college basketball. I just think the inventory is going to grow as it makes more sense for international players that can make more money in college in America. And then that I think is just going to create more inventory of talent that the mid major you know, ends up with better players and they could maybe you know, win more of these early conference games.

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Speaker 2: But I wonder, though, if you would rather get a transfer who has proven or you got a high school kid.

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Speaker 9: I mean, in the perfect world, I'd rather have the high school kid. And I think the way that we try to do it is a majority of our team we want as homegrown boys that we developed a relationship with we have a culture, We got a real connection, you got a real fabric of a team, and and that's supplement with with what you need in the portal or or at least you know, in most cases have multiple years with the transfers, so it doesn't feel so transactional and it doesn't feel like you're just putting together a mercenary squad.

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Speaker 2: What's the most money? Somebody has asked you for.

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Speaker 6: Four and a half million?

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Speaker 2: I think, how does that conversation go?

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Speaker 9: It doesn't actually go out with me because I I'll meet with the agents to talk about the vision for the player, you know, on the official visit with the with the transfer or the high school player. They could sit in on you know, how we plan to develop the player, how do we use them in the system or whatever. But once we get to uh, you know, any type of negotiating, that just goes to the GM Tom Moore and then uh he just kind of walks in and out of the boardroom telling me where where the negotiations going? And then you know, uh yeah, I try to stay out of that. I don't, you know, the negotiations get personal.

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Speaker 2: How would you do coaching the Yukon Women's team, And how would Gino do well coaching the men's team?

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Speaker 9: Well, I think Yo Gino would obviously do better coaching the men's coaching the women because you know, you know, because Gino's maybe you know, the best coach of all time. So, uh, I would be I don't I would be more relaxed, obviously, I wouldn't be.

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Speaker 6: I would enjoy I don't know.

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Speaker 9: They've won twenty seven or twelve, don't know, thirty games this year by twenty five points or more.

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Speaker 6: I don't know how I would handle that.

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Speaker 9: I don't know what type of stress I would create, and uh, you know what type of tension could I create there? It would probably make me crazy. I would long for a brutal loss at.

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Speaker 2: Some point, you would You would probably consult your wife a lot more.

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Speaker 6: I would uh yeah, uh, she she would.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, she'd have a lot to say too, and she'd be constantly monitoring me.

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Speaker 2: You you would have to find somebody to yell at. And it'd be hard to find somebody to yell at on the women's team, Yeah, it would be.

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Speaker 9: And you know, and I don't know, I I or the officials are female or I mean, it's it was that half and half, you know, I just it'd be an adjustment week, different world.

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Speaker 2: Will you watch the games tonight?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, we'll keep these guys up and do video.

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Speaker 9: It's it's you know, the game's gonna start for us close to nine, you know, so we but but last week we played it at I think we started our first round game at ten thirty Eastern times, so our body clock is used to playing late at night. But yeah, I mean only in years that I get eliminated early do I not watch? I you know, I refuse I I boycott the tournament in years where we're not in contention.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand that. You know, why why put yourself through the agony of watching somebody and you go, we're better than them.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: And it's like, you know, when you're a little kid or something, and if you didn't get invited to a birthday party or a pool party or something in your neighborhood, and then what are you going to do?

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Speaker 6: Go up to the fence and listen to the kids flashed around in the water. No one's doing that.

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Speaker 2: Is there something you're you want to tell me that you didn't get invited to the pool parties in the neighborhood. Did anybody have a pool in Jersey City?

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Speaker 6: There was one.

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Speaker 9: There was one up at the top of the block, right down a couple of houses down from Darren Savino, buddy of ours coaches at UCLA, And there was literally one pool in this like probably two block radius.

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Speaker 6: And uh uh on the way.

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Speaker 9: To the park where my where my dad and mom would put us through the drills, me and my brother, the jump rope, the ball handling drills, the shooting drills.

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Speaker 6: In the heat of summer.

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Speaker 9: We had to kind of dribble past that pool while they were splashing around, barbecuing, listening to music in like June, July, August.

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Speaker 6: So no scars.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but how many titles did those people win?

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Speaker 9: I mean, I don't think. I don't think they Uh yeah, sports wasn't their deal?

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Speaker 2: Was your mom putting you through drills with your dad?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, because during the week, my dad, you know, he was a probation officer, you know, so during the summer, my dad didn't teach it Saint Anthony, so he didn't get the summers off. So you know, either me and Bob would write up the plan for today or my dad would have the workout written, now do you be brown box drills the agility warm up. I mean we would make chalk, you know, exes on the on the court so we could do our agility work. My mom would have a whistle and she would put us through the paces as the neighbor as people would be looking out at us in astonishment. Neighbors.

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Speaker 2: So your dad probation officer, I'm gonna guess, pretty tough to get away with stuff in your teens.

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Speaker 6: Yes, scare, I mean, yeah, you knew.

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Speaker 9: I mean he just going up in Jersey City, you know, the things that he did, just as a kid that was raised in the street and as an outside dog, not an indoor dog. And uh, I mean he uh you know, and then being the probation officer kind of driving around with him when he would go on house calls trying to find uh, you know, I guess his clients that had not come in to take uh, you know, the the urine test or what have you? Just seeing grown men scramble as the Dodge Caravan was driving down Martin Luther King Drive.

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Speaker 6: You know you you you know you can't get away with stuff.

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Speaker 2: But I wonder that had you been raised in the suburbs as opposed to where you're raised. Would you be how different would you be or would you be different as a person, as a coach player.

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Speaker 9: I would be a lot different. I think the you know the advantage of growing up you know where we grew up, growing up in the city, growing up in North Jersey, Jersey City.

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Speaker 6: Uh, you know.

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Speaker 9: I just think you've got a real versatile, relatable way about you.

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Speaker 6: You know, you like you could, you.

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Speaker 9: Know, communicate with a with a very diverse group of people from all different types of backgrounds. I mean Jersey City, I think, next to Queens is the most diverse city in America. So, uh, you know it's you you develop, uh, you know, a connection to all people. You're comfortable out on the street corner, but you're also you develop a comfortability uh in the boardroom.

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Speaker 2: Great to talk to you. Do you have big plans for today?

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Speaker 6: Uh?

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Speaker 9: Just uh the final prep. I mean this is actually a good time of year, Dan, because the practices are short, the hay is in the barn and uh and you feel a lot less pressure this year. You feel like, get to this weekend. You're back in contention. You're you know, you're playing one of the best teams in the country in Michigan State. Uh, you know, let's uh, it feels like a lot of pressure is off. Let's let's let it go.

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Speaker 6: Rip.

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Speaker 2: Did you just come on because you were bored today?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? I do. I need I need time filling right now. Needs distraction.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, hopefully I provided one for you. Thanks, great to talk to you, Good luck tomorrow night.

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Speaker 6: Appreciate you.

00:25:09
Speaker 2: That that's Dan Hurley or Danny Hurley, depending on how old he is.

00:25:13
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Speaker 2: The numbers tonight Duke by six and a half over Saint John's, Michigan by eight and a half over Alabama, Iowa State minus three and a half over Tennessee, and Yukon minus one and a half against Michigan State.

00:25:39
Speaker 12: Uh.

00:25:40
Speaker 2: Let's see. Somebody was asking me if Seattle's going to get the franchise expansion franchise they still own Sonics. It seems like they would want to, you know, re embrace the Seattles super songs. But what about Vegas? Because this is truly an expansion team. So what is the name the nickname for Vegas going to be? I don't know if anybody's seen any names out there, but I don't know. I guess you're gonna play off gambling. You're gonna play off cards. I don't know.

00:26:20
Speaker 10: Yeah, Pauling the Golden Knights the hockey team. What's that based off of the owner?

00:26:26
Speaker 2: I think went to West Point and it's about the Golden Knights of West Point.

00:26:31
Speaker 10: I could see the NBA, even in this gambling era, trying to avoid anything racy for lack of a better word, with the name of the team, like the high Rollers.

00:26:43
Speaker 2: Well you have the Aces of the WNBA. Okay, and that's a good You don't want to be the joke. Somebody suggested the Jokers. I go, no, no, you don't want your team calling being called jokers. But then you have to trade for Joker and get him in there.

00:27:01
Speaker 10: You don't want the Las Vegas Dealers. That's a lot of You don't.

00:27:05
Speaker 2: Want the Vegas Craps, right, brought to you by Dude wipes yourself the case in the Vegas Craps. Huh yeah, yeah, Todd, you got any names for the Vegas expansion franchise.

00:27:17
Speaker 12: The Dice could do all kinds of things with two dice and light it up and do all kinds of I think, marketing things with a pair.

00:27:24
Speaker 2: Of dice, right, the Veggas Dice.

00:27:27
Speaker 13: Yes, marm this may be frisky Fritzy esque. The show Boys.

00:27:33
Speaker 10: The Showboys sounds weird.

00:27:36
Speaker 2: It sounds like some creepy website you're on.

00:27:40
Speaker 13: Stay out of my personal life, but I.

00:27:42
Speaker 2: Was looking over your shoulder. Yes, Todd, the Las Vegas.

00:27:46
Speaker 12: Gentlemen's Club like they have the Washington Commander's Club.

00:27:49
Speaker 2: We were talking about real names, Todd.

00:27:51
Speaker 12: I think they're card to be fun. But Adam Sill already got a next one of those things recently. Can't do the Magic City things, so we definitely can't call it the Las Vegas Elements.

00:28:00
Speaker 2: No, no, I can't do Olympic Garden or anything like that.

00:28:05
Speaker 13: Good Times though, Spearmint Rhinos.

00:28:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Rhinos, yes, Mark.

00:28:10
Speaker 13: Maybe something like from one of their old XFL the Outlaws or something like that. I don't know.

00:28:16
Speaker 2: I haven't seen any names.

00:28:18
Speaker 10: And yes, Pauline, I've got kind of a rando betting site. They have the Mirage, the Jokers, the Outlaws, the Scorpions, the venom, the diamonds, the diamonds.

00:28:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that, Yeah, I should have been for the Las Vegas A's right, the diamonds, Las Vegas Diamonds, the ex calibers. Thanks so yes, Marvin.

00:28:44
Speaker 13: For me and Paulie. More important than anything team colors, Like, hmm, what do you.

00:28:50
Speaker 10: Do because you can't look like the Brooklyn Nets with black and white, though no one will confuse you because nobody watches the nets.

00:28:58
Speaker 2: But then are the Oakland A's the Vegas A's are they going to continue their green and gold colors? I'm guessing the Raiders kept their colors, Yeah, pauling.

00:29:11
Speaker 10: Based off I got an article from Sports Business Journal. It's just a speculative article that says they wouldn't be surprised if they went a total different direction with their uniforms, which allows them to do a's throwback weeks and nights like most teams would do.

00:29:24
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:29:25
Speaker 14: Part of the thing that's tricky for Las Vegas is a lot of names that would be perfect for them are already taken. So, like, you have the magic that would be great for Las Vegas already take it the heat, then the desert Oh, that's already taken. The aces, well, you already got an aces. If the good names are already taken, you could be like the Neons or something.

00:29:42
Speaker 12: Yes, can they go into business with the sphere and be the Sphears and do something? Maybe there's something marketing wise and you can.

00:29:49
Speaker 2: I ain't catch something there kind of a tough nicknames. Let's go watch the Spears outlaws. Yeah, the Golden Nuggets.

00:29:58
Speaker 13: You got the Denver Nuggets. You've got the Golden Knights, the gold money.

00:30:01
Speaker 3: All right to do that?

00:30:02
Speaker 2: I like that? All right, Okay, you're rallying.

00:30:05
Speaker 13: You probably wouldn't have the Golden nuggets if you have the Denver Nuggets, though, I'll probably be a problem.

00:30:10
Speaker 2: Good call, Tome. It seems like you're excited that something I did, but you know it was better than the other suggestions you had.

00:30:19
Speaker 13: So now that I think about, you can't have two nuggets.

00:30:21
Speaker 2: No, you can't.

00:30:22
Speaker 13: I don't even if the Golden nugget even exists.

00:30:23
Speaker 2: All right, Uh, Cuba in Arizona, Hi, Cuba, what's on your mind today?

00:30:33
Speaker 6: So VP?

00:30:34
Speaker 2: Heany Cuba?

00:30:36
Speaker 7: Hey man, just call and give you some corduroy love his haters on you but uh even got a couple of corduroy hats man.

00:30:42
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I'm getting I'm getting criticized for my corduroy. I'm giving you love? Oh okay, Oh well that's what I was worried about. Am I getting uh like social media hate for my corduroy? Mhm, Baker and Bozeman Hi Bakery.

00:31:04
Speaker 7: Happy already Speaking of your cordroy love, listen a little fuel that Corroy love with a gorgeous chocolate brown corduroy Levi's jacket. I just emailed the photo of it to Kyler the moderator. If you want to see it, I'd like I'd like to offer that jacket up in exchange for a game used ESPN tie. You said you've got seventy five of them laying around doing nothing.

00:31:25
Speaker 2: How about a swap? All right, we'll do that. Baker, thank you, uh Zach and Knoxville Hi Zach, thanks for holding what's on your mind today?

00:31:34
Speaker 3: Thanks for taking my call. DP.

00:31:36
Speaker 15: I always pictured Marvin, you know, with the Jake Moscow jersey on when he's up there.

00:31:40
Speaker 10: At the Pearly Gates.

00:31:41
Speaker 15: But I just wanted to ask you about that NBA expansion we already have quite a few teams that go into the season and remain irrelevant. Do you think that it's a good move to move into expansion right now?

00:31:56
Speaker 2: Well, we've talked about that, and we had Tracy McGrady on He goes, I don't know if we have enough players to expand, and he does make a really good case there. I mean, if you look at some of these rosters, then I could give you names and you go, what sport that you know? They just wouldn't ring if they'd ring hollow, and you'd be like, I have no idea who that is. I follow it and there are times when I go, I have no idea who that guy is or who he plays for. I do not. But man, you look at the money. It's between seven and ten billion dollars. This is the entrance fee, and that money will then go to the other owners. The other owners are going to make probably somewhere around I don't know, four hundred five hundred million dollars for not doing anything. You imagine you show up one day and you look in your bank account and it's got four hundred and fifty million dollars. He didn't do anything. Man, great to be an owner Chris and Syracuse. Hi Chris, what's on your mind?

00:33:09
Speaker 1: Hey?

00:33:09
Speaker 4: Thanks for getting me in.

00:33:10
Speaker 1: Dan.

00:33:10
Speaker 4: Hey, I got a few things to throw at you, and also a possible mock headline to be written on your casket.

00:33:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess.

00:33:17
Speaker 4: Vegas can't go with because of the Chicago Bulls. They can't go with the pit Bulls either. You were talking about the Pirates center fielders. Non error Now MLB says it has to be a physical error, not a judgment error. When your judgment tells you to put your glove in a certain spot and the ball bounces off the heel of your glove, that's an error. Just like when your judgment tells you to run forward after a ball instead of backwards. Running is a physical activity, it's an error. And I have to disagree with Robbie Hummel saying he's never seen a coach only having four players on the floor. Let's not forget about that other Husker coach, the legendary Normandale and Dan, you guys were talking about having your few in the man cave on your beloved basketball court. The casket may read former Western Kentucky hilltopper finally passes.

00:34:11
Speaker 2: Nice it's eastern Kentucky. We weren't even western Kentucky. They were good. They were eastern Kentucky. It's very good, Thank you, Chris. Caleb Williams has submitted four trademark applications related to the name Iceman, a logo name, and silhouettes that mimic Caleb Williams pose as he rolls left, jumps and completes a pass. So George Gervin the Iceman, he has a problem with this because he is filed for a trademark. He had Iceman and Iceman forty four. That was his jersey number. So four days after William's application was filed, George Gervin his trademark application was also I guess submitted. But he's been called the Iceman and that was first used in UH nineteen seventy nine. I actually have the Iceman poster and ice is he's sitting on a block of ice and he's these basketballs you know, look like their ice as well. It's a great, great poster. But I sent me that autographed a couple of years ago. But I guess there is a soccer player in Chelsea, right Satan, Yeah, call Palmer, and he's called Iceman. Well, no, they'll call him Cold Palmer.

00:35:49
Speaker 14: Oh, but his celebration was that sort of like I'm freezing kind of thing, because like every time he scores a goal, he's like that was too cold.

00:35:56
Speaker 2: Okay, So Caleb is imitating this soccer player Cole Palmer. Yeah, okay, So when Palmer scores, he gives you the old shivers like whoo, and so they call him Cold Palmer. Okay. I think Chuck Liddell, former MMA fighter, wasn't he known as Iceman. There's a lot of guys who were laying claim.

00:36:16
Speaker 10: To this little naval pilot, Val Kilmer.

00:36:19
Speaker 2: Val Kilmer the original Iceman. Oh j yeah, I believe what else, Paul?

00:36:24
Speaker 10: Actually, the timeline would be George Gervin. First, the George Gervin's company, Gervin Global Management, thought they had the nickname trademarked already. They found out they never did. They The confusion was a death of a business associate who was tasked to do this years ago and he didn't get it done. So when Caleb Williams went in to do this, he had the green light to do it, it was not already trademarked. And when they realized that they scrambled the Gervin people to get Iceman and Ice forty four trademark. The nickname was not self given by Caleb. Kind of the press did it after he did the Palmer thing. Yeah, but he already took the logo, and it's kind of making maybe a clothing line out of this or other things.

00:37:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're talking about jerseys and hats and sports equipment. I wear posters, trading cards, sweatshirts. Mmmm, George Gervin is Iceman?

00:37:17
Speaker 6: Yeah?

00:37:17
Speaker 14: See, I'm looking a little deeper into the George Gervin situation. You know who had the rights to it, that was supposed to do it on his behalf and didn't.

00:37:25
Speaker 2: Alec Baum's parents.

00:37:27
Speaker 13: Damn it.

00:37:28
Speaker 2: No, that's I'm confusing my stories.

00:37:31
Speaker 3: Wow.

00:37:32
Speaker 2: Wow, yes, Okay, this.

00:37:34
Speaker 10: Is the question for the room. If you were the judge in this case and had to decide, how would you make your decision?

00:37:42
Speaker 2: I would say Iceman, you're the original Iceman. You get it. Cord jerned, but he did make he thought he had trademarked it. It's not like he all of a sudden go oh my gosh, I got to trademark that. He did think that he was filing the trademark papers. There was a death and they weren't able to He did not realize that I would. I would give it to Iceman. Yes, some people.

00:38:13
Speaker 10: Use nicknames of people from the past. But if I refer to you by your nickname and it's more well known than your actual name, I think it's yours, Tiger Woods. No one calls him Eldrick. No one says, hey, George Gervin was on TV today. You say, I saw Ice Gervin on a TV show. Yeah, I think that would be the default judgment. No one goes Iceman Williams of the Bears. Yeah, No one says that yet.

00:38:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Gervin has you know, he's got some kind of documentation. He's got a poster that says Iceman on it. I would just bring the poster to court find him. I'm saying here it is that there's me. Yes, I do.

00:38:52
Speaker 14: I think there's something too. If you bring all of them into court and line them up and ask the jury which one of them is Iceman and they point to George Gervin, They're like, okay, that's clearly you win. You get the patent.

00:39:03
Speaker 2: You do you do a focus group and you bring the focus group in and say, all right, uh, you line up Chuck Lddel, you line up Ice Gurvan, you line up Caleb Williams and go, okay, who is Iceman? And you point, Now, if I'm if I'm Gervin, I'm wearing my uniform, I'd be wearing my San Antonio Spurs jersey. Yes, Martin, that said Ice on the back.

00:39:26
Speaker 13: Yes, yes, it doesn't say Ice on the Chicago Bears uniform.

00:39:30
Speaker 2: Now it doesn't.

00:39:31
Speaker 13: One is iceman. The other one is the guy that pretends to be cold.

00:39:34
Speaker 2: I would I would come in and do a finger roll like I would do the little Gervi and finger roll there, maybe grows hair back, get a fro back. Yes, Pauli.

00:39:47
Speaker 10: It's like if I said, oh, I saw I was watching NFL Network and LT was being interviewed, I'm referring to who.

00:39:54
Speaker 2: Well, that's different because that could be Lawrence Taylor, led Danian Tomlinson, right, But the those are just initials.

00:40:01
Speaker 10: I wonder if either trademarked that for clothes or merchandise.

00:40:06
Speaker 2: I don't know, but Abdul Carter also wanted to be called LT as well. It's weird. He wanted his number. He'd like to be called LT as well. I think he's changing his number again. Is Abdual Carter changing his number? Or did I make that up.

00:40:23
Speaker 9: To?

00:40:24
Speaker 1: No?

00:40:24
Speaker 2: No, no, no, he can't do fifty six. But I don't know. For some reason, I thought maybe he was changing. He was changing something. All right, let me take a break. It's time for sausage and peppers. We also have our little batting helmets with ice cream in it, the nacho cheese dip. We have crab dogs. Is that what it is? Oh boy? You guys don't come in sick on Monday or with his stomach ache, all right, Todd, we'll try to avoid that, all right, Everything in moderation. That's the problem.

00:41:00
Speaker 13: It's very easy to say those words.