Keith Sweat

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Speaker 1: R and B Money. Thanks, we are the authorities.

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Speaker 2: R and B.

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Speaker 3: I'm Jay Valentine and this is the R and B Money Podcast.

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Speaker 2: I know you see the marble and all the cool shit.

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Speaker 3: That means I am at a very very special residence because you know, we couldn't shoot this in those studio you know, I had to get on the highways and the byways to come see my player, pot the man.

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Speaker 2: You know what.

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Speaker 3: I would usually do some intro where I'm talking about all the platinum records of platinum status that is in, all of the accomplishments and all the cool shit. But I want to get straight to it because this is my real brother in real life. I'm talking about call me at six in the morning because I'm on the West coast and he's not.

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Speaker 2: Talking shit every morning. He know what, he called me, I pick up.

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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna get to it, Ladies and gentlemen, the amazing, the legendary, the icon himself, Keith Sweat.

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Speaker 2: What's up, Jay?

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Speaker 4: What's up?

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Speaker 2: Long time?

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Speaker 4: No get me on the show?

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Speaker 3: Exactly, yes, long time not getting you on the show. But you you know what, I'm not bringing none of that up, man, because you're here. I know you didn't cancel some other you know what I mean. I'm pretty sure you had some other shit to do.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, you fuck with your player pocket.

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Speaker 4: You're my man.

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Speaker 5: So I you know, we talked about it. I said, Yo, I have to do the show because I'm always running, running, running me like, Man, you're gonna do the show? Yeah, And I said, man, I'm running, running, running, So I said, man, let me. I'm running out of town tomorrow. So I said, man, let me get it. Let me knock it out because I appreciate you. You won't be screaming on me, and said Matt Sweat.

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Speaker 2: But you told me.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: So you know we come from a certain cloth. You know that you're right. You tell me something, I'll hold you to it. I tell you something, You're gonna hold me to it. And that's why our friendship is with the way it is.

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Speaker 2: It's always gonna be that. Appreciate that, man for sure.

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Speaker 3: Man, let's get to it. Man, let's look, let's get to Harlem, okay, because you know, I know I know how you are.

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Speaker 2: I know you.

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Speaker 3: I know you were Harlem, not on your sleep, in your heart, and you know you and I have always talked about that and you know, our shared experiences of where we come from.

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Speaker 2: How was how was Keith in Harlem Man coming up?

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Speaker 5: I mean I was, you know, a young kid, you know, trying to figure it out like everybody else. And you know, when you grow up in the hood, you try to just figure it out, you know. Yeah, my mother raised five kids in the project by herself, so I was the youngest of the boys. So but I took the approach that I wanted to take care of the family. So keep growing up in Harlem was you know, I got into my little little mischief things and uh, you know, I had to figure out what I wanted to be in life and what I wanted to be. That I want to be a gangster that I want to be, you know what I'm saying, a nice kid, whatever I wanted to be. So I had to figure all of that out, you know what I'm saying. So I did figure it out, you know, I mean, I you know, I got myself in.

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Speaker 4: A little trouble.

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Speaker 5: And the trouble that I got myself in, which you know I talk about that in my documentary, is something that you know, kind of straightened me up.

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Speaker 4: And made me move the right way.

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Speaker 3: How did you find your voice or did you? Were you always singing as a kid.

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Speaker 5: As a kid, I always watched you know, I watched all the shows, soul training, all the different type of shows.

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Speaker 4: I watched them.

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Speaker 5: So you know, I watched the Jacksons and all the people growing up, and you know I used to imitate a lot of those young acts.

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Speaker 4: And you know when I realized, like.

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Speaker 5: I say, I was singing out the project window, and you know, to some girls that because I used to live on the third floor in the project, so I used to be singing out the window. You're not put on the dead fhonded reggit and be singing out the window and go who you.

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Speaker 2: Know you saw that reaction earlier. And then my mama came home.

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Speaker 5: Boy, if I hear you singing out the window again, I'm whip your my eye.

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Speaker 2: So that's how, that's what that how it all started.

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Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, how do you go from singing out the project window knowing you got a voice to going to Wall Street?

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Speaker 2: Though?

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, I mean like in life, you know, in which you know a lot of your young brothers and sisters need to take he but the heat of this, uh, you know, my attitude was, you know, you have to also have other things that you're doing just in case the things you desired don't work out, you know, which I try.

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Speaker 2: To teach my sons.

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Speaker 4: You know, Hey, you have to wear more in one hat, right.

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Speaker 5: So if regardless of what your dreams might be, that don't mean you're going to accomplish your dreams.

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Speaker 2: So were you day trading like you were? Literally? I was really?

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Speaker 5: I mean I started with Potential Bach and in the stock room working with the potential base.

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Speaker 2: Then I moved up the paint to pain Webber.

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Speaker 5: Right, and h I met this guy who definitely took an interest in me name Clyde Burrows. I still remember his name, Blackbroker, and he took me under his wings, and that's how it all started with me.

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Speaker 4: On on on full World Trade Center.

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Speaker 5: But I started with Paine Webber Potential Bach and then went to Paint Webber and that's how that all started.

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Speaker 2: Are you doing music at the same time you going to work? Though?

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Speaker 5: At the same time I was doing with this group called Jamila Okay, and we were doing the Chitlin circuit around the city. We would do places like the Mark four Smallest Paradise, the Cellar staurant, which Brad Johnson owned it, you know what I'm saying, and his father, and so I would do the little clubs around it.

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Speaker 4: It's called the Chitlin Circuit.

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Speaker 5: So I was doing the little clubs around that area, and and pretty much that's what I was doing why I was on Wall Street and then you know, because I had the real passion to do music. Yeah, that's what I was doing on my on the time that I was off of work.

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Speaker 2: Wow, so is this funding it for you? Though? Are you like this is working?

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Speaker 5: So I can well, well, doing doing the clubs was more for more entertainment and.

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Speaker 2: Driving because you weren't really making no money doing that.

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Speaker 5: No, No, I was making like he would three through three sets in the club and come up and do one hundred dollars back in them.

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Speaker 2: Days, so thirty three dollars a set, so.

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Speaker 5: Basically or maybe two hundred dollars something like that. But that's when you knew you loved doing what you do, right, you know, because I didn't get into the game for the money. I got into the game because I loved doing what I loved singing. I love being on stage. It had nothing to do with the money. You know, the money just came, but because of your passion.

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Speaker 4: Because of the.

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Speaker 3: Passion, right, how long were you in the group before you decide you want to go on your solo path?

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Speaker 5: Well, what happened is I was in the group of you know, I had probably been in the group for a couple of years, and you know they had you know, during the time, we had another guy named Peter DaCosta who was a single with me.

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Speaker 3: He was a light skinned, pretty boy like you you know, he was the Billy D Williams, like the other man.

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Speaker 2: You got to have a Bill D. So you know, he was he.

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Speaker 5: Was the one, you know, you know what I'm saying. You know, you know, you know during them days, you know that was that was the look, you know, trying to say so, you know, he was the lead. So I wouldn't you know, they wanted me to just make the group you know, one hundred percent, and he's like, yo, you need to quit. Don't what you're doing? Had come to just do you know if you really want to do mere talking about.

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Speaker 2: Get off the get off the stock market. Yeah, just do that, I say, hold.

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Speaker 5: Away to the minute, baby, No, no, that though, that don't pay the bills, that don't.

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Speaker 2: Work right, and are you making good money on the stock is yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but and and but they wanted me. They felt like my overall commitment to the group was wasn't there. And then you know the person that owned Jamila and that was the name of the group. Uh, the bass player was the leader of the group, and his father managed the group.

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Speaker 4: So you really you understand.

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Speaker 2: How that goes. Everything was tied in, tied it in.

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Speaker 5: So they decided, you know, yo, we decided you don't need to be with the group.

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Speaker 2: You got kicked out. I got kicked out. Yeah, it's all good.

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Speaker 5: So I got kicked out, and it devastated me to the point where because that was where I picked up the girls on the weekend. You know, that was your new project, that was my I knew, I knew what it was gonna be. Yeah, yeah, saying oh like that. So I think, you know, that's how you invite people to the club. Hey, hey, they come to the club, I'm singing like that type of thing, right, So they kicked me out the group. So when they kicked me out the group, I'm a person like this and everybody know. And I'm still like that to this day. Don't don't don't mess with me because I'm approval point. So I say, Yo, I'm approval point. I don't need you. I'm still gonna hit and it's gonna be bigger than you ever thought it would be.

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Speaker 4: And that's what happened.

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Speaker 5: So once they kicked me out of the group, it's just that the gentleman just hit me and I just went hard on you know, the music side.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how long did it take you to get a record deal?

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Speaker 4: About the Yeah?

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Speaker 3: From getting kicked off the group about a yeah after And you had been in this group a couple of years, but as a soul artist, get year. Yeah, sometime is meant to be right. You get the record deal, you start working on the project. Could you feel it before you dropped?

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Speaker 2: Make it last forever? Could you feel it like? Yo?

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Speaker 5: Actually, I was working for Suitu Records to producing before I did my own project. I had I was with working with GQ. Okay, before I even you know drab my project. I had worked with Raheem and GQ and we did a song called My Mind Is Made Up. So I was working with the organization Tony Lopez and home with them before I even you know, after I I left your mil I started working with GQ and me and Raheem would write songs together like you know which is still on the end of that.

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Speaker 4: Lucky seven and my mind is made up.

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Speaker 5: So and then I was writing songs, and then I went down to Suture Records, and I was producing song for you know, Sutra Records, which his Mark Adam Levey, which was Mars Leevy's son. But the Fat Boys Wash put the record out by this girl. I wrote this record called All I Wanted my Baby by this girl named Erta Gilliam. And you know, that's where everything really kind of started, you know, because I started as a songwriter and producer because that's what I wanted to be. So that's the initial focus for you after after I, you know, even though I wanted was the soul er, I still was because my pen was crazy or it was crazy. I knew I had to pay crazy pin. I could write like who and come up with and then listen to it like, oh damn, I wrote that that shit hot. So that's what happened. So I started writing. So what made me decide to actually be an artist was when I took a song down there and Adam Levy told me it wasn't a hit.

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Speaker 3: There they go again, somebody is yeah, i'ma proved my point. So that's what happened.

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Speaker 5: And then I end up writing don't Stop Your Love and took it down there and he said that Don't Stop Your Love other than a hit because I took I actually wrote don't Stop Your Love for somebody else, but my voice was order that I met this girl named Judy Hudson, who was who knew, you know, Vincent. She said, oh my god, that record high. So when I finished Don't Stop Your Love, I took it to Judy, and Judy introduced me to Vincent. And that's how that whole thing started off.

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Speaker 3: A record that someone else told you wasn't good, right, that you literally wrote as a demo, so you take it there.

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Speaker 2: They it wasn't, so I said, I'm gonna do this join myself.

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Speaker 3: That in itself just shows too though, that it's subjective. Music is subjective right certain ears. And I see a lot of artists that have just come across just at different times, and I'm I'll tell people when they send me music sometimes just like if I don't hear it, I'll tell you I don't hear it. But that don't mean it's yeah, I just don't hear it. Because I think sometimes people bank too heavy on one person's opinion, somebody that they see in a certain light.

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Speaker 2: To me, hearing that part of it and seeing that, that's where.

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Speaker 3: It all kicked off for you though, by literally just being like, no, I'm just not gonna take one opinion. I'm gonna go see what what else this record got. So when you take it to Vincent he hears it.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna actually give the love to Judy Hudson, okay, because she was the secret She was the one working at Suit Record. Yo, I need to take this record to somebody, this record hot. And she's the one that took it to Vincent, who was who had Chelsky Love Yeah, and he had he with hear him under. So yeah, I already I had had that record out. So when I took the Vincent, he said, yo, I won't put this record out. That record hot, you know. So that's how it already initially started for me.

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Speaker 2: But at this point, you don't have the album done.

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Speaker 4: No, At this point, no, I don't have anything done. They gave me.

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Speaker 5: I got a deal with Electra Entertainment based on Don't Stop Your Love because they wanted to do a twelve inch situation with me. Yeah, because because you know, a lot of people had turned me down.

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Speaker 2: They're like, all right, we'll try to sing it.

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Speaker 4: Because ERL.

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Speaker 5: Monroe had pretty pro records he turned me down. Yeah, so I didn't.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know at a record label.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he had pretty pro records. He turned me down. A lot a few people turned me down, you know. So Vincent gave me the shot, and I wouldn't be the keys what I am today if it wasn't for that shot. Because what that shot, what he did was allow me to go to certain people and say, yo, I gotta deal. A lot of people think that I wanted was the one that got the deal. No, it was gonna Stop Your Love because that was the one that gave me to deal with Electra and then other stuff, you know, like I said, which we'll say for the documentary, was the thing that allowed me to come and do what I did and make.

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Speaker 4: My and be known as the keys for that I am today.

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Speaker 5: And you know, like I always tell people, you know, people always look at situations and say to themselves they get mad at the record company, right. I used to be mad at Bencent and Entertainment. And I was like, hold on, wait a minute. He was the only one that gave me the shot that nobody else gave a lot of people forget about that. And I said, yo, when everybody else turned me down, he was the one that took the gamble. And as you get older, you think.

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Speaker 4: About that type of stuff, you say, hold on, wait a minute.

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Speaker 5: If he hadn't gave me the shot to be who I am today, he invested his time and his money.

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Speaker 4: And in the me. Yeah, and it was me.

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Speaker 5: And at that time, when someone does that, you have to All you got to do is show and tell improve that you can do. Be you and do you. You know what I'm saying, Because everybody's not gonna invest in you. Everybody's not gonna take their money and say, yo, I'm gonna put my money. It's like it's like it's like when you go to the crap table and gamble, you put your money down and seven, you can seven or crap.

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Speaker 2: And whatever you do. You know, if you seven, you're good.

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Speaker 5: If you crap out, Hey, but you you got to be strong enough to just move on.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 5: I took that rest, I took that gammel, I moved on to an I'm moving on, Like everybody don't get that that kind of shot.

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Speaker 4: You know, there's a whole lot of people.

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Speaker 5: That would love out here, that would love to get someone to invest in the one time to show the world what they got to offer.

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Speaker 3: Right, But I think that's that's super important that you bring that up, sweat that somebody that invests in you in the beginning. You can't forget. You can never forget that. And I think when it when it comes to the business side of it, right, an artist may get some success and forget that a time.

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Speaker 5: Right And because you got so many people whispering in your hey boom boom boom, what what they should have done?

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Speaker 4: Or what you what you could?

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Speaker 5: But you for are you You're not You're forgetting about all the times you showed up and bagged that person. They just give me one opportunity, Just give me one when nobody else was doing it, you know what I'm saying. So I had to look at that where I was concerned, just like I look at that with the opportunity to I have for.

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Speaker 4: Giving another talent.

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Speaker 5: It's like know the business, learn the business, understanding the business, because there's so many people that don't know the being and don't understand the business. And then you know, somebody like myself and other people get blamed for them not knowing the business or understanding the business. Nine times at the tenant person to make getting money off their first album, right, because you end up paying back the record company for the investment because you haven't made no money for the company. So everything they put out is there, so they they got to recoup. They gotta be cooked. They money, right. So I was fortunate to make money off the first album because I wrote, Yeah, at least seven or eight of those songs on their first album.

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Speaker 4: Then it hit. Then I'm a solo artist.

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Speaker 2: I'm not.

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Speaker 5: I don't have four or five people won't split my money with. So when they hit, I was able.

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Speaker 4: To make money on the tour because Keith.

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Speaker 6: Sweat tell me about when it hit.

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Speaker 3: It tell me about like that the feeling because at this point you a few years in, you working a regular gig, and now you got a hit record and a hit album, like you come out the Gate with.

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Speaker 5: A hit with a hit and so, and then up Michael Jackson out of number one.

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Speaker 2: Come on, man, come on man.

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Speaker 5: So I was when they did that. I was like, hold up on billboards. Yeah, I was like, hold on, I'm not an m J out of the number one spot on. So, and then I still didn't. I still wouldn't quit the stock market.

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Speaker 2: Are you still working this whole time? Right?

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Speaker 5: I didn't quit the stock market. Right then people started coming up to the to the to the Stock Exchange. Asked them before I said, you can't be up here. They was getting finding ways it on the elevator to come to the eighth floor where I was working at on.

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Speaker 3: The on the change, crazy because I's a super fan back then Tonet.

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Speaker 2: And then they would be like, you know, get I said, hold up, you're gonna get in trouble. You can't be up here. Hell you do it.

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Speaker 5: So people would do that and then so that's how all that started.

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Speaker 4: And then eventually Mark Siegel.

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Speaker 5: Who was my first agent, but I see him, he came and he said, man, you got to go on the road and the O shit too hot right now, I mean people want to see you. You have to you can't and you have to because I was number one on Billboard at that point, but still working, right.

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Speaker 4: I said, I ain't even there. I'm shit, I ain't.

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Speaker 2: Even Are you investing the bread into the stock market? Then no, I'm not.

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Speaker 5: I'm what I'm saying what I was in the stock market, and I was fine with my job, right, So you know, I've had about all these one hit wonders and all that shit. So I'm like, man, I'm not leaving this. This is in my cushion. This is where I am. And he said, nah, man, you don't understand.

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Speaker 3: You're huge out here in the street.

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Speaker 5: So he said, you know, man, I'll tell you what. So he gave me a big as advance, so you have to and that's what made you quit, right, No, but I took a lib of absence.

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Speaker 2: He still didn't quit. I took a live of absence.

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Speaker 3: So in your mind, in a sense, did you have as a would say, imposter syndrome, like a this ain't real?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess you could say that.

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Speaker 5: In my mind, I'm like, yo, this is a dream, right, and when I wake up up, this ship ain't gonna be here. So I still had still had his mother from job. So basically all that was a dream. Because my first, my first check that I got, which was a lot of money, I went home and threw it up on the throw it in and throw it on the bed and jumped on the bed.

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Speaker 2: You do the check or you do the cave because the cast you in cash, do it all on the jumped on the bed. How much was it that so it can't tell you what It was a lot, but I threw it all on the bed. I'm getting ready to dive into this money. Did you buy anything crazy? No? No, I was.

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Speaker 4: Never a person that.

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Speaker 5: I never was a person that, just like to this day, like just because everybody else got certain things, you know, I'm not a person even when like I don't know. I made sure my mom was good, I made sure my sisters was good. I mean, but I really didn't buy anything, you know what I'm saying. Bought a little townhouse and that was it. But as far as like going crazy and doing rams and all that, I ain't you shure that wasn't I mean?

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Speaker 3: You say, to this day, as we were sitting in a marble room pretty much a marble house that you have, it's kind of crazy.

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Speaker 2: Sweat.

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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna put that out there. Well, that was crazy. I've never seen marble wall because it's thirty five years later, thirty some years. So I feel like I can do that thirty some year. But it's not borrowed.

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Speaker 2: So okay, okay, speak on it that.

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Speaker 5: Yes, yes, it's very well earned in a very long period of time. And when people are counting my money, they're not counting my accomplishments.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 5: I do movies, executive produced record I do my own tours, promote my some of them not I'm not just the artist, I'm the promoter. I know some of them, right, Candle line.

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Speaker 2: Bag you know. You see I'm following suit.

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Speaker 5: Like so you know real estate, you know. And this is not about me. It's about my legacy and my kids. So everything you see me do ain't got nothing to do with key sweat. It's about the foundation of my kids and their kids and their kids' kids. So this house is paid for, but where does it go if I'm not here to day tomorrow?

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Speaker 4: Who does it go to?

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Speaker 2: To the kids?

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Speaker 5: So people don't understand. So when I do things, it's not like even me going on to and working today. It ain't got nothing to do with me. I've been blessed to have everything somebody could ever want. So when when it comes to me doing stuff, is to make sure they are good and their kids kids are good, and their kids kids kids are good. So you know, I changed the sweat name and made it a name that is it is, it's real, it's you know. Sometimes I tell people when you change sometime we have a curse on our name, and somebody in that family has to change the direction of the family and the name and the value of the name, and and and and make sure. And it's about where you live, and how will you treat other people when and those type of things like if I'm doing something i feel somebody got a crazy spirit, I won't let them in my house because I'm a firm believer that spirits will jump on you. You know what I'm saying, Bad spirits will jump on you. So I limit myself from the people that's around my kids and around me and whatever. You know what I'm saying, I'm very funny about it. If I feel like you know what I'm saying, you keep it from around you. You don't need to be around me. That type of thing and.

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Speaker 2: You have you always been that way, always just sound like a learned thing for you over time.

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Speaker 4: Well, I got a prayer mom. I always had a praying mom.

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Speaker 5: So and everything I do and everything I've done and everything I do to this day is because of her prayers and it and my success don't have anything to do with me, and has I would a lot to do with me having a praying moment, and you know what was instilled in me, and I ain't got nothing to do with because I'm being blessed abundantly because of the things she's told me.

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Speaker 4: I'm a giver.

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Speaker 5: You know, you got people in the world that are given, and you got people in the world that have taken us correct.

00:25:31
Speaker 4: And I'm a giver.

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Speaker 5: Some women, when I'm a get because I'm gonna give it, they look at it as being a trick. No, if you look like you're in a bad situation, I feel like, damn, you could do better for yourself.

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Speaker 2: And I give.

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Speaker 5: And I don't take that my kindness weak weakness, because it ain't got nothing to do with that jet Because just like I can give, I could take and I can move on. I don't have to have you and you don't have to have me, that's.

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Speaker 4: The bottom line.

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Speaker 5: But you know, in our society today and and the way things today with social media, like you got to actually sat where all the good girls at?

00:26:13
Speaker 2: Yeah? And I don't mean when I where the good people at?

00:26:15
Speaker 4: What the good people?

00:26:16
Speaker 5: And when I say and when I say the good girl, you don't have to do what I say when I say jump, I'm not talking about that. Just look in the mirror at yourself and am I a good person? Am I a good person? What's your values? What's your morals? Morals?

00:26:31
Speaker 2: What type of what will you do?

00:26:34
Speaker 4: And how will you do? What would what?

00:26:36
Speaker 2: What would you do to get over?

00:26:39
Speaker 4: Like if you will go.

00:26:40
Speaker 5: To the extreme, then something is wrong because for no amount of money, am I going to the extreme?

00:26:47
Speaker 2: Right?

00:26:47
Speaker 4: That's just me.

00:26:48
Speaker 3: Now, everybody's not like that. Yeah, no, I got you. Let's get into the records. Get into some of these records. Make your last forever. When you write a record like that, is it a first.

00:27:00
Speaker 2: Listen for you?

00:27:00
Speaker 3: Because as a songwriter, now now we're talking about the from the constructing of records because even that title, obviously we're still talking about it to this day.

00:27:11
Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about it forever.

00:27:12
Speaker 3: You literally put that out in the universe, making it last forever.

00:27:16
Speaker 2: Did you come up with the title first.

00:27:18
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think yeah, because I normally come up with the hook first and then build a song around the hook.

00:27:24
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't let our love in said, don't let our love in take it last?

00:27:28
Speaker 2: Fact.

00:27:28
Speaker 5: So and then I told people every time with somebody talk about it, I said, then I tell you I was gonna make it last.

00:27:32
Speaker 2: Fav I mean, and that's what that why you.

00:27:35
Speaker 5: Still you're still relevant, You're still doing it. I said, I told you I was gonna make it last fail. Yeah, he's spoken into existing so something. And I tell people be careful what you say, because some things you can speak into existence.

00:27:46
Speaker 2: Most things.

00:27:46
Speaker 3: I'm a firm believer in that as well, right, Yeah, yeah, No, I think artists should pay more attention to what they rap or sing about.

00:27:55
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it will come back to bite you in the ass. Yeah, want you.

00:27:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, Triple Plot the first album, change me baby, you know what man?

00:28:07
Speaker 4: Change me?

00:28:07
Speaker 2: All right? That's what I'm not gonna do. I ain't gonna that's that's not And these are physical copies.

00:28:17
Speaker 3: This is not These are not stream full trillion stream that add up to whatever the hell they add up to. This is actually people going to the store buying these records four to five million. Yeah, first album, out the gate, out the gate. Do you get right to the next project or do you renegotiate from a business standpoint after you sell that many records? I'm sure listen, we talked about it. The deal probably wasn't the best renegotiate. Yeah, definitely, because.

00:28:51
Speaker 5: First of all, people didn't understand, Like I didn't even know how.

00:28:57
Speaker 4: Dope I was.

00:28:58
Speaker 5: Hmm, knew I was good, okay, but I ain't know how dope I was as far as writing.

00:29:06
Speaker 4: I mean like I didn't know that.

00:29:08
Speaker 5: Like I knew my first album was a hit because I just like, ooh, this is hot this because you know, I listened to radio. I listened to the songs I listened. Grew up listening to Jackson, del Phonics, Blue Magic, the Spinner is all of them. I grew up listening to that. So me growing up listening to that, I was like, Okay, I can do this. You know, Tom Bell and Filled all the Philadelphia and like Teddy.

00:29:32
Speaker 4: P and all that.

00:29:34
Speaker 5: I grew up listening to them. It's like, okay. Then when I did my first album, I'm.

00:29:38
Speaker 3: Like, oh, hell oh, I'm getting ready to hit them over the head.

00:29:44
Speaker 5: So basically that's what happened. So after the first album, everybody knew what it was for me because the world knew at that point. You know, the record company was saying, at that point, I proved the point, right, So because you came out of nowhere right in the first and I was able to produce him write the first album, which was unheard of by a new artist, you know, somebody who nobody ever heard.

00:30:13
Speaker 3: Do you think you were afforded that because you were already a writer just because you're small signed to a smaller.

00:30:20
Speaker 5: Because for a boutique label, Definitely, most they just like let him do a stand. And most definitely because he heard that I he heard the songs I was writing, So definitely, because I think if I would have just signed directly, and that's what I said, God worked in mysterious ways because the person that signed me was knowledgeable enough and understood the game enough to say, yo, he dope, let let me let him do him.

00:30:45
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:30:46
Speaker 5: And if it would have been signed to directly to a lecture, which what Anita Baker was on and after at the time it was one by Bob krat Now, I believe they would have submitted me songs and it wouldn't I wouldn't.

00:30:59
Speaker 2: Have been able to do the songs that I was able to do.

00:31:02
Speaker 3: And now at this point, you you had a chance to prove yourself right, and you absolutely prove yourself right. Does the business immediately become advantageous for you from a business side after this first album or where you were able to with it, It's like, okay, y'all here, I'm here.

00:31:18
Speaker 2: In the beginning, did it go like here are you now? No?

00:31:22
Speaker 5: I still had to finago. Okay, certain things I still had too. You know, can he do it again?

00:31:29
Speaker 1: Right?

00:31:29
Speaker 3: Type of thing? Sophomore sophomore jinks? Can he do it again? I say, I knew I could do it again.

00:31:36
Speaker 2: And then we jump all the way into this, I'll give all.

00:31:38
Speaker 4: My love to you. I'll give my love to you. You know that that was proof that goes number one right pop? Not just RM b oh.

00:31:48
Speaker 2: It went pop number one.

00:31:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it went pop number one. So that's a whole different conversation, that's a whole different kind of money too. Absolutely, so it went number one pop. Also, that's when I did the tour with I'm Gonna tell You. That's when I did the triple threat to with Johnny, myself and bb D.

00:32:10
Speaker 4: That's when that came out.

00:32:12
Speaker 5: The first tour was Heavy D, Salt and Pepper and myself. That was the first album.

00:32:19
Speaker 3: And uh yeah that was the first two and now you got the triple threat to her second album.

00:32:25
Speaker 2: You just tell me what is album at this? One?

00:32:27
Speaker 3: Four five million two? Come on, man, so out the gate. Hit after hit after.

00:32:33
Speaker 4: Hit, right, not just five hits.

00:32:36
Speaker 2: Ah, I didn't say it.

00:32:39
Speaker 3: I did show him the clip though, and I don't know what that five ship came from.

00:32:46
Speaker 2: He explained it, well, well he explained it.

00:32:49
Speaker 4: Nobody do their homework.

00:32:51
Speaker 2: We made them do their homework.

00:32:52
Speaker 4: Please do your home work because that's in sultant but go.

00:32:54
Speaker 3: Ahead, yeah, because I mean listen, the first album only had eight songs on it, all hit record you why did you only put eight records on there?

00:33:02
Speaker 2: Though? Because that was an odd number. Because I ain't want to do no more I knew. So it wasn't no close composition clause at this It was.

00:33:10
Speaker 5: Like shit, if that if this don't get them ain't nothing gonna get them right, Yeah, they have nothing else to do.

00:33:16
Speaker 2: I'm giving you eight out of eight.

00:33:18
Speaker 4: Well, I don't need to put no more on.

00:33:19
Speaker 3: Now that you're on this second album, you sell all these records again, do you ever have the at what point do you have the moment where you just you're like, damn, this is real. Like I'm really selling a lot of records, selling out arenas.

00:33:34
Speaker 2: This is a real thing for me.

00:33:35
Speaker 3: Now do you have that moment by this time or are you still like, ah.

00:33:40
Speaker 5: No, I still I have that moment at that point, because now I'm seeing the people, I'm seeing the tours, I'm seeing the fact that I can take my mama off the project, give a house. All that becomes reality now at this point, I'm still New York at that point, but I'm slowly you getting to the South, getting to this app I mean, I didn't even know I was gonna move to Atlanta, to be honest with you, And that just happened on a wing when I just have to be on tour and I said, Damn, I can get this kind of house for this kind of money.

00:34:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, coming listen.

00:34:12
Speaker 3: I was driving around today like, man, they still got them three we saw me a rube. I'm like, ruge, you think they still got the houses from three fifty somewhere because we all it's so funny, especially even coming in from California. And I had a brother that went to Clark and I remember him telling me, actually, I take that back.

00:34:32
Speaker 2: He was the Morris Brown which don't even exist no more.

00:34:36
Speaker 3: And I remember him calling home and I was I was a teenage, I'm young.

00:34:40
Speaker 2: You're like, man, it's Atlanta. It's it Atlanta. Is it like Atlanta?

00:34:47
Speaker 3: Like I'm telling you, man, you get the basement, you get the backyard, you got this. You know, the prices of everything in the streets is higher there than they.

00:34:56
Speaker 2: He is here. I'm like, okay, and I have a full understanding.

00:35:01
Speaker 3: Then when I got in the music business, I start taking writers' trips, like when I became an adult and I could, you know, fly to Atlanta.

00:35:07
Speaker 2: And now I'm at.

00:35:08
Speaker 3: Such and such as writer who might got half a hit. I'm like, man, you can afford all this out here right?

00:35:17
Speaker 2: This is my ass. Just couldn't leave California. I was stuck. I love Cali. I was stuck. Man, I ain't stuck.

00:35:25
Speaker 3: I should have brought my ass to Atlanta and bought me some makers and ship man. Yeah, but this this place, man, were you here during the Face era?

00:35:38
Speaker 2: Yeah?

00:35:39
Speaker 3: Were you already here before that? Are you came around that same time?

00:35:42
Speaker 4: The time, the same time?

00:35:44
Speaker 3: So the music scene too, it was building right, Oh yeah, I can't imagine the life.

00:35:51
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was living.

00:35:53
Speaker 3: I was supposed to sign Usher, but I didn't. Wait what I was supposed to sign Usher?

00:35:57
Speaker 4: But I didn't.

00:35:58
Speaker 2: Why not because at the time La beat me to the punch?

00:36:03
Speaker 3: Okay, but so you you got it when you saw it though.

00:36:06
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was gonna and he was a talent show was going on, and he started singing for me, and he.

00:36:16
Speaker 4: Went in there and did this thing with La. Read was and La got him.

00:36:20
Speaker 3: Before I got La was like, I'm signing it now, That's what happened. That's something that I wanted to highlight to it. I you know, because I've had those conversations about you, about being an artist who's always been willing to share their life, which is rare, right, we know this, And I've always had the utmost respect for you because of that, because there are many artists that really want to put other artists on like.

00:36:53
Speaker 2: They may say, oh yeah, yeah, I got I'm gonna start this label. We're gonna But like you were literally discovering artists, what was that for you internally that said, Okay, I gotta really reach back, because that's what it really becomes, especially when you're having a success you're having. It's not like, Okay, I'm on my last leg and I need to find somebody else to get hot. You literally keep sweat.

00:37:19
Speaker 3: You don't have to do these deals because we both know what comes along with that. There's an added stress and an added thing when you start taking on artists and their lives.

00:37:31
Speaker 2: So what pushed you toward that to give back?

00:37:34
Speaker 5: Like my mother would say, you a given out of taken so basically, and it also made me feel good to show that I could do.

00:37:41
Speaker 4: The same thing for myself for somebody.

00:37:43
Speaker 5: Else, somebody else, and I could write hit records for somebody else, not just for myself. Yeah, So that was another type of feeling, amazing feeling for me because not only I was able to do it for me, I was able to do it or make somebody else dream reality. So for the I mean, certain things in life make me happy, not everything but certain things just me. That's one of the things that made me happy to give to people that may not be fortunate enough to get on their own by itself, you know.

00:38:18
Speaker 4: And you know.

00:38:19
Speaker 5: Because like that, that's the type of fulfillment for me. I mean, people don't understand that, but that fulfills certain things in me and makes me feel good.

00:38:31
Speaker 4: About me when I look in the mirror.

00:38:33
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Because you might have a whole lot and nay say is saying this and saying that, and it could upset you. But when you know yourself that what you do and what you have done and you don't have to speak about it or say I've done this for you and so on, that for you that's a great, amazing feeling.

00:38:52
Speaker 4: But because people do.

00:38:53
Speaker 3: Know absolutely absolutely, and you look at different you put in a different light. When you're able to discover, develop and and see those type of projects through where you you help people become stars as well, it's just it builds it builds everything up, right, I you know, but I do, like I said, I understand that the other side of you know, the pressures of it, but.

00:39:21
Speaker 2: Where somebody else going I.

00:39:23
Speaker 5: Used to get upset when people I put on it might have said things. And then I smile, and then I look at the position I'm still laying and I laugh because I said, you know, God will make your enemy your footstool.

00:39:39
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

00:39:40
Speaker 5: So I said, okay, cool. If you feel I never did nothing for you, I moved on. That's a battle you have to fight with yourself, and you have to be honest with yourself and look in the mirror with yourself. And you gotta like because I always tell people there's three sides to every story, mind, yours and the truth.

00:40:00
Speaker 4: So you gotta you gotta come to a.

00:40:03
Speaker 5: Point in your life and say, hey, dag, you know, everybody, if you're a real person, you can a lot of things that you do that are.

00:40:15
Speaker 2: Not right will convict you.

00:40:17
Speaker 5: You're looking at your marror, at yourself, and then we'll convict you for real, for real, right.

00:40:21
Speaker 2: So I don't like to be convicted. So I try to do the right thing.

00:40:27
Speaker 5: So you know what other people think it's the right thing or don't think it's the right thing. If I feel I've done everything I could to make it right, then there's nothing.

00:40:36
Speaker 2: No, I'm fine, it's commendable. Tell me about New Jackson.

00:40:49
Speaker 6: Did you know.

00:40:52
Speaker 2: Andy, No, no, no, you know what. I'm there, you're gonna tell me know again? It's not a wedding song. It's not No, how does that even come together? I remember watching as a kid. I'm like, that, don't make no sense that he's singing there you go telling me know again at a.

00:41:12
Speaker 5: Wedding, right, Well, honestly what happened, And I've talked about it in the press so I can talk about it. It's not documentary for him, because the documentary form I wouldn't even.

00:41:24
Speaker 4: Be on it right now.

00:41:25
Speaker 5: But it was supposed to be Let's chill, ah and Let's chill. Like, I'm not gonna blame it on t I'm not gonna I'm blame it on you know, the powers that be at the time. Yeah, you know. I was in the studio with Bnard Bell Teddy. We did Let's Chill. Let's Chill was supposed to go on the movie.

00:41:47
Speaker 4: It didn't.

00:41:48
Speaker 5: I didn't get the master to give it to Mario van Peeples to go into the movie, so they needed a song. So I was singing at the wedding, so I had to. I wrote, there you go tell me, you know getting that same night that said, man, y'all better take that and call of the day, and that's what happened.

00:42:08
Speaker 2: Classic, classic record, classic scene.

00:42:11
Speaker 3: Another hit, another hit, and then they had a shootout, right, everything that went with that scene, it's just it's just it's like a period piece in my life, honestly, like that. I just I just remember, right, like, Okay, that's not supposed to be there. But the song is great and I love the record, okay, And then they had a shootout, and you know Brown has got Baby's guard.

00:42:33
Speaker 2: Then why you have to shootout? Right?

00:42:36
Speaker 3: Were you when you get called to do the movie? Had you seen like any dailies of it anything? So you didn't even know what it was about to be about. I mean, you knew obviously knew the premise of the movie, right, but I.

00:42:50
Speaker 5: Didn't know whatever's gonna do, what it was gonna be about. Nothing. They called me, that's what you on the wedding scene. I didn't know I was gonna be in the wedding thing thing. So okay, cool boom sang.

00:43:03
Speaker 2: Oh man, that is great. And like you said, another hit record. As you're moving it on your into your career, have you ever had moments where you like, can I write another one? Because you've written so many, have you had like have you had those moments as a writer? Never?

00:43:22
Speaker 4: Aw Never?

00:43:25
Speaker 5: I mean because I've always been I've been writing since I was the kids. It's never and I'm always trying to out do myself and I'm always trying to I'll do somebody else.

00:43:36
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:43:36
Speaker 5: On the writing tip, you know a lot of people don't like I can like I can write anything country, you know, I know planning for me, Yeah, I can write anything. So a lot of people don't know that. Yeah, so you know, me being able to just show people aside me that they really don't know. I enjoyed that. That that like I'm oh, lord, I see. I love doing that. I love proving a point. That's what I do.

00:44:05
Speaker 3: To me, it feels like it always goes back to the song for you though, like yeah, you're you're the artist, and you're the vessel who's you know, bringing those those records to life. But it just feels like in the beginning of everything, it starts with the song. For you, you are a songwriter, right, Like we were talking about that one day, Like when you file taxes, what do you put like, what do you put? It's your occupation entertainer, just entertaining. Mm hmmm, because for a long time I didn't know what to put. I didn't know for I had no and then I start putting the songwriter put entertainer.

00:44:42
Speaker 2: You put entertainer. Yeah, I don't entertain as much as you. I don't.

00:44:45
Speaker 3: You know, I pop out every now and then I can't. I can't really put entertainer.

00:44:51
Speaker 2: You know.

00:44:51
Speaker 3: I mean, I if I only sing every two years, I can't be putting out an entertainer.

00:44:54
Speaker 4: Entertainer.

00:44:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, so we got whatever what other? Let me think.

00:44:59
Speaker 3: I'm thinking all the record Man, it's so many of them that I want to ask about, you know what Twisted, Twisted and Nobody because it was coming the same project. To me, they felt like a shift. It felt like a shift in what you was doing musically, like this is just me as a fan at the time, I was like, oh, this is a brand new keyp sweat to me?

00:45:25
Speaker 2: Was that intentional?

00:45:27
Speaker 5: No, it was what I felt like writing at the time or the oh, I don't think. To me, it was the same thing as me writing something just saying right because it kind of something something that you know you. So to me, it wasn't a shift. It was just, you know, we in a whole nother year. Yeah, we did.

00:45:52
Speaker 2: We in the.

00:45:53
Speaker 5: Nineties late nineties, so it was like, Okay, what are we doing now? You know what I'm saying, dude, I don't want to change what people know is Keith Sweat, and so I don't want to go somewhere else that I never went. So I want to people love who people still messing with what I've done before, So I don't want to. You know the problem with most entertainers, they go drastically different and people be like, what the hell is he doing for me?

00:46:22
Speaker 3: I don't but you got to find that happy medium that I feel like you did as fine as stand current.

00:46:29
Speaker 2: But it was still Keith Sweat absolutely well.

00:46:33
Speaker 3: You also have a very distinctive voice like that is that can never be confused.

00:46:40
Speaker 2: It shines through.

00:46:42
Speaker 3: I've never heard you on the song about Who's that?

00:46:45
Speaker 2: That's what. It's no confusion about that.

00:46:51
Speaker 3: And so but I think just for me sonically, you've been able to find your space in every decade, right, which that is hard to do, man st down there impossible, right, So to to see you being able to do that. Man, it's so inspiring, like you know, sweat just really and do you do you do you.

00:47:16
Speaker 2: In staying current and standing the test of time? Do you that?

00:47:20
Speaker 3: Do you attribute that to just you really staying tapped in like you know what's going on?

00:47:26
Speaker 5: Yeah, and and and I contribute that to I really don't listen to radio like that because when I get in the studio and and certain songs hit me or music hit me, I said like, yo, everybody get out the room. I put the headphones on and I'm come out and there's a song there. So I've been gifted enough to go in there and just to write based on what that music says I should be writing. Yeah, so's I don't know how.

00:47:56
Speaker 4: I don't be knowing.

00:47:58
Speaker 2: I don't be knowing how it happens.

00:47:59
Speaker 4: Is just happens. And I don't question it.

00:48:02
Speaker 2: Now you got the gift. Yeah, I don't even question it. They'll be like my team be like what the hell you know?

00:48:08
Speaker 5: Yeah, because you know, I'll go and act like somebody bought me a record and they had they was they had somebody on the song. And when I heard the first two lines, I may cut that mess off. Man, take him up, you mute that ship and give me the track. Yeah, and I freaked the track. I said, now, this is what that shit?

00:48:27
Speaker 4: It sounds like? It was like, oh my god, like that.

00:48:30
Speaker 5: So I mean, I know what, Like I can follow rhythms and patterns in and come up with the song and lyrics and I don't know how it be and hooks and it be in about an hour.

00:48:43
Speaker 2: That's crazy, that is that's a gift, blessing.

00:48:47
Speaker 5: Yeah, my friends went to the to the club one night and they left me in the studio and I had three tracks. They came back off. Three was done in about two two and a half hours.

00:48:59
Speaker 2: Are you still actively every day in the studio?

00:49:03
Speaker 4: Not actively? Every day? I get my old man's rest, did I?

00:49:09
Speaker 5: And then I come down and I feel like it because I can't be in the studio and like I have to mentally get myself together because I'm always on the road. Like I don't mean old man's ress, because I be in the gym running, running like a young boy and doing that type of stuff. So I just need to mentally get my head right because I wear so many hats. I'm the executive producer hat the movie hat the touring hat, the entrepreneur hats, the restaurant hats. Like, I got so many hats that I wear that I try to be good at all of them.

00:49:44
Speaker 2: It's just that sometime you have to take a break.

00:49:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, absolutely, But during this time you weren't taking no breaks at all because you go from your solo project and then you say, all right, I'm gonna do.

00:49:57
Speaker 4: A group because Jill and Johnny with my boys. So you know, Jill never happened.

00:50:06
Speaker 5: Jill never went platinum before ever, and Johnny that's my boy. So I said, I want to do a group. So the record company was against it.

00:50:18
Speaker 3: Oh they fought that. Yeah for it, that would seem like an They fought that, and I had to fight back. So they ended up going through Electure. Yeah okay, they thought. No, they fought Electure for it.

00:50:30
Speaker 5: I won't you know this is this part where you say boom boom boom what you say and you won't tell the story. I'm not gonna tell it. Who ford it? They It was like, you're not doing nothing. I said, I don't you talking to like that, y'all. I'm doing this. If you don't like it, you don't like it. But I bet it happened. So you see that it happened, right.

00:50:53
Speaker 2: It absolutely happened. Another multiplat the Marvel.

00:50:56
Speaker 3: Right my body, and they tried to take dit for it, but Jell said, yo, and that was all y'all.

00:51:03
Speaker 4: That was Keith Sweat.

00:51:04
Speaker 2: I did, hey man, once again being a giver. Being a giver.

00:51:12
Speaker 3: But so much has been given to you for being that type of person, right, It always, it always comes back.

00:51:18
Speaker 5: That's why I feel I'm still relevant all these years later, because God has blessed me abundantly because of the things I've done to give, because you know, I mean, and that I contributed to.

00:51:31
Speaker 4: Him, not nothing else but him.

00:51:34
Speaker 5: Now, I mean, it's like I said, it's not I can't take the credit because you know, there's a lot of people that came out when I came out that's not relevant at this point. So for him to have to make me knowledgeable and to have him still have me.

00:51:50
Speaker 4: Headlining after all these years, it's amazing.

00:51:53
Speaker 3: I'm glad you mentioned that because that is something that's so important to an artist and to the longevity of an artist. What made you start really paying attention to the business of the road and touring because most artists are just like, Okay, I'm gonna get my friend in my back in there.

00:52:15
Speaker 2: Cool.

00:52:15
Speaker 3: But you started to start looking at the gate, start looking at the merch How much is this back line? Can I buy these buses? Can I buy these sprinter vans? Like what kicked in for you? Or you were just like you know what? This is now another ancillary business.

00:52:34
Speaker 5: For me because even at the first album, I bought my own SSL board, even after the first album, so because I felt like, if I'm gonna spend my money in studio, own it on my own, my SSL boards. So for fifty four channel in put SSL.

00:52:49
Speaker 2: Board, how much was that back then it was.

00:52:52
Speaker 5: About close to three on thousands, and put it in my house. And then that's why I did the Silk album. At my my album Matt Cut Close album.

00:53:02
Speaker 3: And now you're charging back the studio because now you're the studio.

00:53:05
Speaker 5: Yeah, because I felt like I'm not going into the studio and spend that kind of money when I can put this board in my house and you know.

00:53:14
Speaker 3: And back then you couldn't get in the studio for less than fifteen hundred a day twenty five hundred the day South studios.

00:53:19
Speaker 5: I would spend all the time and then I would have the speaker come up to my bedroom and listen to the mixes.

00:53:24
Speaker 4: So I knew it.

00:53:25
Speaker 2: But the mix is gonna sound like because I had man put the.

00:53:31
Speaker 5: Speakers up in my house. So I'll tell my end of that mixed the song. Now, no turn that base to turn that base down?

00:53:36
Speaker 2: Are you making you're really making bedroom music? Yeah? Yeah, so this was this was gonna sound in your bedroom. This guy is gonna sound Yeah. So that's what I did.

00:53:44
Speaker 4: That's genius.

00:53:45
Speaker 2: That's genius.

00:53:46
Speaker 5: And the THESG album there I did, the old school album cut Close, Yeah I did.

00:53:53
Speaker 2: Then you took that same mindset to the road.

00:53:55
Speaker 3: Though, right, if I'm gonna be on the road, I need to own these I bought.

00:54:00
Speaker 5: I bought that first, I bought the key Voice, and I was buying stuff like I'm a person that if I'm gonna spend money on it, I'm gonna buy it. Yeah, because like most people, right, when you don't think like that, that means you don't you're telling yourself you're not gonna be here for for a year. When you're doing things like that, you're telling yourself you're gonna be here for some time.

00:54:24
Speaker 2: Right, I'm gonna be able to get the use out of this.

00:54:25
Speaker 4: Yeah.

00:54:26
Speaker 5: So, And I tell people, you know, it's like, if you're only thinking I want now, that means you ain't thinking about five years from now. You don't think you bought going to be here five years from now, or you don't think you're gonna be in the game five years.

00:54:36
Speaker 4: I man that whatever the case is.

00:54:38
Speaker 5: I feel like everything like me buying a red camera, me buying my lights, me doing everything I do for me, it's I'm gonna get the use oude of it.

00:54:48
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna ready for nobody else because I'm gonna end up using it more than yeah, just buying it for yourself, right, so.

00:54:56
Speaker 4: You might as go buy it and own it and now you're good.

00:54:59
Speaker 3: Why I was hounding you so much to come on this show because the things I know about you, because you've let me into your life, in your circle, and you know, I feel like I'm a confident of yours that you know you call me, you tell me you like, hey, Jay, pay attention to this or that. I kind of got tired of just telling people. Make keev Man. They mentioned whoever else y'all want to mention. But when I look at you, you are what it's supposed to be as an artist, businessman, business person, right Like I can look at everybody's accomplishments and yeah, that's cool, it's cool you did that. Okay, cool, cool, cool? Do you own your masters? Are you promoting your own shows? Have you figured out how to really run your own program for real?

00:55:52
Speaker 2: Right? And yes?

00:55:53
Speaker 3: And I think most people think, Okay, if I'm learning all those things, I don't need nobody.

00:55:57
Speaker 2: You don't think like that. You're like, no, no, I need the right people.

00:56:00
Speaker 5: But still gotta have the right team in position because at the right time you want them to do certain things. Even though I wear a bunch of hats, I still have my team and I'm still the bottom.

00:56:12
Speaker 2: Line, I'm still the last say, but.

00:56:16
Speaker 5: You give them the opportunity to be the last thing, to see how they can move without you having to say boom boom boom boom boom.

00:56:24
Speaker 4: Yeah.

00:56:24
Speaker 5: You got some people that can do that, and you've got some people that can't do that. So you have to entrust in certain people to do things and get things done because you really it's only twenty four hours in a day, and you can't do everything yourself, so you really got to, you know, confide in certain people and hope hopefully they will get certain things done. The problem with some people that go broke or whatever, they get the wrong team, or they don't they're not they don't want to know what's going on in their lane or their business, and they don't do enough research or they don't do enough finding out. Okay, house this being run, who's doing this, who's not doing this? Just like something came up, and not to mention or throw anybody under the bus. You know, I'm behind the eight ball on some things that I should have been in front of the eight ball on, you know. So my attitude is like, yo, don't let that happen again. Don't let it happen again. Because I designed my things to be on point. There's a method to my madness. Like I move in a way like, yeah, I jumped from one thing to another, but because I feel that because the one thing I jumped from was supposed to be already handled, right, So when I jump onto something else, I'm thinking like that was being handled. I wouldn't have jumped from that to that if I didn't think it was being handled.

00:57:51
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's how I am.

00:57:53
Speaker 3: It's part of why you're still here. It's part of why you're still relevant. It's part of why you.

00:57:57
Speaker 2: Still printing money.

00:57:59
Speaker 3: People ask me, but man like gow Sweat, I said, man, friend money friend money man, you know, and and just how you've gone about your business man and what your what your name means to us, especially the ones that really know you in his name like.

00:58:17
Speaker 5: It's a one, right, I hope you know that. Yeah, No, your name is your name is a one, like I know, thank you, Bobby, I mean Joe, I mean a pleasure. I mean, I don't think all all of I mean, I don't think there's nobody that don't give me my props or what I deserve. And the people that don't give them to me they don't know me, or they don't know my business or and they shouldn't. You know what I'm saying, because to me, I don't. I'm not trying to sell myself to people. That's not that I don't feel as relevant to my life. You know what I'm saying. I'm not trying to prove a point. If if the point hasn't been proven by now, there's nothing to prove.

00:59:07
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm fine. I'm fine with where I am in my life.

00:59:11
Speaker 5: You know, one thing about in life, and I tell people you have to be happy with yourself and you and you know, everything ain't for everybody, and everybody ain't for everything. I don't need what everybody else has to make me happy.

00:59:24
Speaker 4: I ain't got to.

00:59:26
Speaker 2: Be seen here, here, here.

00:59:27
Speaker 5: That's why you don't see me everywhere. Because I don't want to be everywhere. I don't want to be seen everywhere. That's just not me. I'm an introvert, yeah, you know. And because I'm an introvert, I'm happy with staying home watching TV or.

00:59:43
Speaker 2: Something like that, you know, even by myself thinking of two be because now you have movies everywhere, you know.

00:59:49
Speaker 5: But I'm just saying, I mean, but before that, I'm I just like being in my space. And you know, because I'm gonna be honest with you to the world, I've accomplished more than I ever thought I would ever accomplish in life anyway. So at this point, I'm fine, you know what I'm saying, Because I did something that I proved the point to my mom. I was able to take care of her, so sometimes people are never satisfied and they always want more and warm right because they never satisfied. When do you become satisfied? Why is it that?

01:00:25
Speaker 2: So that was never your drive?

01:00:26
Speaker 5: Now that's never my drive because you can't take none of the shit with you.

01:00:30
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

01:00:31
Speaker 5: The only thing I care about is like, how make sure my kids are good and my kids kids are good or whatever. But in terms of me doing whatever I can to get whatever I can and throwing it in people face.

01:00:45
Speaker 4: Look what I got, Look what I got, looked with it.

01:00:47
Speaker 5: I think that's whack When somebody do that and throw it in people face. It's like, Yo, these are the same people that help you get what you got it while you're throwing it in their face.

01:00:56
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

01:00:57
Speaker 5: And I'm a firm believer that you know you it's insulting for me to see somebody bragging about all the things they got and the people that has helped them get it. They starve and and they ain't got nothing, and people are bragging about what they got. That's kind of whack to me because you throw way that in their face. Look what you did for me? Yeah, you know, that's kind of like not good.

01:01:20
Speaker 2: No, I respect that. I respect that.

01:01:30
Speaker 3: What was the shift for you to get into film and film and television?

01:01:35
Speaker 5: One thing my son acts, okay, like I don't want him begging nobody.

01:01:39
Speaker 2: For no role, Like I'll help create it.

01:01:42
Speaker 4: So don't beg nobody for no role.

01:01:45
Speaker 5: I create a road for you, and I do the movie for you, and you know you and that now once I do that, you take it to a whole another level of yourself, right like I mean, And this giving opportunity, still giving, even though he's mount still giving you opportunity to show what you could.

01:02:02
Speaker 4: Do right now.

01:02:04
Speaker 5: That's I'm not gonna hold your hand, but now that I'm giving you a platform to stand on, show me what else you could do.

01:02:13
Speaker 4: Take that and run with it.

01:02:15
Speaker 5: So that's my thing, you know, in terms of getting it's more like you know, people that I've invested in or they film I invested it was more so to help them, not to help me, but more so to help them. So that's why I get into a lot of films, because I try to help people and accomplishing their dreams and.

01:02:36
Speaker 4: Putting on screening what their vision is.

01:02:41
Speaker 3: That's right, I do It's a different type of power in being able to greenlight something right.

01:02:45
Speaker 5: Right, so I'm able to somebody say, yo, I'm short. Boom boom boom, I got an amazing film. I look at the film, I'm like, okay, who will you have attached to it?

01:02:55
Speaker 4: Okay, I need the money to go ahead.

01:02:58
Speaker 2: And there how many films you got?

01:02:59
Speaker 4: Now?

01:03:00
Speaker 2: About five or six you got? You got one out now right, yeah.

01:03:04
Speaker 5: Secret between us with Michael John White, Lisa Aarondale and and uh.

01:03:10
Speaker 4: A few people. Yeah right, yeah, things behind that's some way out.

01:03:15
Speaker 2: What else behind you? Back then? You got?

01:03:17
Speaker 3: Okay, you got bags too. Let's talk about the bag. Let's talk about platinum status? Man, what made what made you get into that to say, okay, you know what I want to do luggage?

01:03:25
Speaker 2: I want to do bags. I on do luxury, high end.

01:03:27
Speaker 5: Things because the bags that I was getting didn't they didn't fit you, they didn't fit me, and you know they were not conducers.

01:03:36
Speaker 4: But what I want.

01:03:37
Speaker 2: You know, you got your computer, yeah, I pad.

01:03:40
Speaker 4: Your phone. You know, I'm like, yo, this is just for shure.

01:03:42
Speaker 5: I need a bag that really, yeah, you know, can facilitate everything that I want because you know, we travel, we go overseas, we do whatever. You're like, Yo, you need a bag that you don't want to want five bags when you want condense? Yeah, condense everything, you know, as much as you can. And you want the bag that still looks like right.

01:04:02
Speaker 4: So that's why I met it.

01:04:04
Speaker 2: And then candles. You got George too. You know, listen when you talk, I listen. You got George too.

01:04:13
Speaker 4: You know, we be on the floor, George kund of slippers the mind.

01:04:17
Speaker 3: See now man, but you standing in fringe, man square, Geors out, you know, but I got I look like I'm giving people more candle here we go, but I feel.

01:04:30
Speaker 2: Like I'm giving people more wax. Mine is marble like the walls and the floor. But as you mileless.

01:04:36
Speaker 3: But as you see, mine got that song I give all my love to you, you know.

01:04:41
Speaker 2: For mine also has the Valentine logo on Oh, but mine have music and no the stones in it. I can't beat him.

01:04:55
Speaker 7: I can't beat him. He's gonna join him. Let me tell you can't us to man. I'm selling this way Canada's oh man, this is great?

01:05:06
Speaker 2: What other what? What? What other businesses? Am I missing?

01:05:10
Speaker 4: What the restaurant.

01:05:11
Speaker 5: Yeah, the restaurant I forgot twisted pie, twisted pie, twisted twisted pie.

01:05:17
Speaker 2: P y E not p i eh. Okay, p y E. Don't get it confused with the p I E with the p y E, you know. And I hope the p y ts get a nice Yeah you hear me talk. Yeah, I'm here. Where where's that restaurant.

01:05:35
Speaker 3: At It's in Douglas still in Atlanta, Okay. And how long have you had the restaurant?

01:05:38
Speaker 4: It's about three years now.

01:05:40
Speaker 2: Are you going to do more franchises? Definitely franchise, franchise black.

01:05:44
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't have to fantasize.

01:05:49
Speaker 2: Man.

01:05:51
Speaker 3: This is why I ain't just so listen because this episode is y'all just seeing how we hang out and how.

01:05:58
Speaker 2: We be on the phone talking ship. This is this is amazing. Man.

01:06:03
Speaker 3: Your career is inspiring. And I'll continue to say that because it's a true feeling of mine. You know, as I as I look at you know, obviously I've I've moved into different spaces and pivoted and those things, but I look at it like, in whatever facet of this industry, I gotta do it like sweat. You're literally a person I think of when I'm making certain decisions, and I wanted to tell you that, Like, something may come.

01:06:35
Speaker 2: Up and I'm like, who is Sweat do this?

01:06:40
Speaker 3: How could how would that make sense in the realm of the Valentine because you know you're the sweat.

01:06:46
Speaker 2: I'm the Valentine. So you know.

01:06:48
Speaker 3: I'm letting the people know. Man, I'm not mad. I'm learning from the best. And I also want to thank you. During the pandemic, we will be on the phone. You'll be giving me ourtips.

01:07:01
Speaker 2: You're like, yay, yeah, this is I.

01:07:03
Speaker 3: Ain't gonna say the names of the companies, but you'd be like, do some research on that company. I appreciate you, man, that's all good. Help me make a couple of dollars. Man, that's rights. And did you holler?

01:07:16
Speaker 2: I'm always gonna holler. I'm always yeah, nigga governor dollars, so you can holler. Man. You see how I'm on his crat every week.

01:07:27
Speaker 3: But yeah, man, we you know, I know it's gonna you would be here all night if we talked about all your accomplishments, man, And I don't want to hold you too long, but I it's some things that I it's some segments.

01:07:37
Speaker 2: Man, I need you for man, Ruben, what we got over there? Man? What we got?

01:07:42
Speaker 4: Come on, Ruben, don't move too slow?

01:07:47
Speaker 6: Yeah?

01:07:49
Speaker 2: Your top five man. You want to know something? Sweat fun Yeah, singers, allaby songs? Oh thank we got to know lord? Are you going there wrong? This shore? Everbody what they want to know? Yes?

01:08:28
Speaker 1: You curry?

01:08:39
Speaker 2: Oh boy, come on, Sweat, we need to know something Marvin.

01:08:44
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, hold on, hold on, let me set up for you this Keith Sweats, Top five R and B singers, marm and Gay okay, Teddy Pindergrind Lou, the Vangos. Yeah, oh, let me think, Let me think. I won't make sure I'm doing it right now. We have three, that's three. I know I'm keeping it. I gotta make sure. Eddie Libert yeah, yes, sir. And Philip bay Win, Yes, sir, that's a.

01:09:18
Speaker 2: I respect it. Okay, okay, okay, okay.

01:09:21
Speaker 4: It takes some food to learn that love. Don't love nobody he could say.

01:09:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, cold like everybody I mentioned it was cold? Yeah yeah, flat Foot Yeah, Top five songs, Oh my god, come on your song, your song, guys, wet.

01:09:41
Speaker 4: Let me think. Let me.

01:09:42
Speaker 5: Thank well, it's something I said, Philippe. It takes a fool. Okay, we know that Teddy turned out the lights. Stevie Wonder very superstitious.

01:09:55
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love that song. You love that song.

01:09:58
Speaker 2: Love that song.

01:10:00
Speaker 4: If for winning five reasons.

01:10:02
Speaker 2: You're a false little guy. Uh what.

01:10:14
Speaker 4: Oh oh jays leave once? No, that's uh, that's spenders like let me think, Let me think, let me think. What's going on?

01:10:27
Speaker 5: Marm and Gate. Yes, sir, that's perfect for this time. Yeah, what we're going through. What's going on?

01:10:35
Speaker 3: We need more music like that, We need more socially conscious music, man, and we need people taking that chance two.

01:10:43
Speaker 2: To give that to the world.

01:10:45
Speaker 6: Right.

01:10:46
Speaker 5: I mean, and you know the younger the younger brothers that came after that, they have phenomenal But I always look at the people that open doors for everybody, and the brothers that I name I feel opened the doors for me to be who I am, and Johnny and Jerald and just you know, so I always got to look back on those brothers, even though it ain't the ones the younger people might know, those were the ones that were essential and.

01:11:16
Speaker 4: Impact for in my life, that made me or allow me to be the singer I am today.

01:11:23
Speaker 3: Speaking of your brothers of LSG. How you feel about the fact that y'all inspired TGT.

01:11:30
Speaker 4: I didn't even know it was that. I didn't even know TV.

01:11:34
Speaker 2: You knew y'all inspired TGT did. Yeah, I fired y'all that I inspired them. That's good.

01:11:41
Speaker 5: That's that's a blessing. Now I'm listen, let me say this to you. There's nothing in this game or industry that hasn't been done already. It makes me feel good when people will take something that was done by someone else, especially myself, and take it and run with it, meaning that I did a good job in creating it, where they want to create something that's just as good or better from that.

01:12:14
Speaker 2: Yeah.

01:12:14
Speaker 4: So I'm not mad at anything like that.

01:12:17
Speaker 5: I'm I'm more like appreciate, appreciative of it, you know, because it's like you're actually giving me my award and saying, yo, man, we want to do this because y'all inspired us to do this.

01:12:35
Speaker 3: So and even even you know, the like the shows and the tours that you've been a part of, like now seeing the R and B tour, Raymond and Brown, you know what I mean us You're and Chris how is it for you to see that happen? The two guys top of their game say, you know what, we're going to roll together.

01:12:57
Speaker 4: Well, as you know, I've been trying to get brothers do that.

01:12:59
Speaker 2: For that's why I asked.

01:13:01
Speaker 4: I know it, and it's good that they could figure it out. I just wish.

01:13:08
Speaker 5: That some R and B artists could figure it out. And it shouldn't always be about the money. I know it's about the money, but that's why I come in as a promoter or whatever, so I can make it where let's do it together. And that's why I say I wish more brothers would think a certain way whereas we invest in ourselves, because then you could.

01:13:32
Speaker 4: Do it to it like that because all the money is I was on the back end.

01:13:35
Speaker 2: Right.

01:13:35
Speaker 5: If we get more people to think like that, you'll actually make more money. You just won't get your money up front up front, and that's always the tricky part, right, But you will get your money because if you put a tour together, that's phenomenal.

01:13:54
Speaker 4: You're gonna win.

01:13:55
Speaker 5: Because I was telling them and nobody better steal my idea because I was to you, if you're still my idea, anybody take trying to take my idea. Right now, I'm gonna put it out there right here on camera.

01:14:05
Speaker 2: I can say it and.

01:14:06
Speaker 3: He'll put you in because right now it's right here, because everybody know it was my idea.

01:14:13
Speaker 2: He's my idea. I'm glad I did that. It's my So don't till my ship. You're gonna tell us what I did? Should I tell him? Little? Because it's here. That means it's solidified. I'm right.

01:14:37
Speaker 3: That means if somebody take it, the floor is yours you thank you so knowing this is my idea and I'm padding this. So basically, this is like I came up with it. This is a pattern right here on this show, right am I right room?

01:14:55
Speaker 2: Okay?

01:14:55
Speaker 3: You know I know I know how to choking. I ain't gonna do it. I ain't gonna say I tell you that you're where I was going with it. Boy, Oh lord Jesus, there's already a few of them get anyway, So I ain't gonna say nothing more. All right, So we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna get into the vote tron. Okay, where you build us the ultimate R and B singer top to bottom? Will you give us the vocals.

01:15:26
Speaker 2: Who vocals? M hm?

01:15:28
Speaker 3: They look the performance okay, performance style. Who's gonna kill that stage? Who's gonna put that fly ship on? You know, listen, I don't know. I don't know if y'all be paying attention. I've never seen sweat not fly. This is he just so y'all know.

01:15:44
Speaker 2: He changed off his five years to I've only been here for thirty.

01:15:47
Speaker 3: No, and if I take one and if I take one off up and keep one on, that means I'm thinking and don't disturb me.

01:15:55
Speaker 2: They know me? Am I right or wrong? I walk around to have the one shoe of sweat?

01:16:00
Speaker 4: What you doing?

01:16:00
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, don't leave me get leave me alone? Goddamn it.

01:16:06
Speaker 3: It's on the drip and then the passion of the artists. Who's gonna make you feel it? So we're gonna start with the first thing.

01:16:14
Speaker 2: Who's your singer, Who's who's the who's the vocal for this ultimate R and B singer?

01:16:21
Speaker 4: Because I named a bunch of them in the beginning.

01:16:23
Speaker 2: One of them can be, yeah, one of the one of your time for her.

01:16:25
Speaker 5: It could be the vocal whoever you wanted to think about, who had the range who had range, yeah and everything else. And you know who's so do back then. It's sad that I can't think because you know, there were so many. It's so sad it still would be Marvin because Marvin had the silkid's voice to Marvel's the vocals, Marvin is the vocal.

01:16:52
Speaker 2: Now, who's a stage performance who put on the show? Not Usher and Chris Usher Brown and Chris Yeah, yeah, yeah, if I attitude, I can't even do that so that I get.

01:17:07
Speaker 3: I can amerge him Chris stage Usher and Chris who put on the fly ship, Keith Sweat.

01:17:16
Speaker 2: Come on, I'm thinking to myself, if he don't name himself.

01:17:20
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get Keith Ahead Sweat Sweats, the sweat drip and the passion. Who got the passion? Who's the most passionate artist that you can think of?

01:17:36
Speaker 2: That?

01:17:36
Speaker 6: You know?

01:17:36
Speaker 2: Like I believe it?

01:17:38
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.

01:17:40
Speaker 5: I think Luther had that. Luther had that yeah when I yeah, have that like like he made you feel that. I gotta say Luther, yeah, every word, every word. That's a crazy artist. Marvin vocals, Chris and Usher, stage, Keith Swat to swag, the drip and Luther Vandross's passion. Yeah, that's that's gonna be a tough one to be. That's gonna that's gonna be a tough okay' you know.

01:18:12
Speaker 3: Since you are a songwriter, throw that curveball who writing the songs for that artist?

01:18:18
Speaker 2: Me and Tank, that means that it's gonna be timeless. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love that. I love that.

01:18:26
Speaker 5: I gotta vinced think because you know that's my man anyway, man, that's my boy.

01:18:30
Speaker 6: No, I know, I know.

01:18:31
Speaker 4: So you know me and Tank because Tank is for people that don't know.

01:18:35
Speaker 5: Tank is phenomenal writer. You know, I'm just as dope, absolutely hope. So it's kind of like together. We haven't never written nothing together.

01:18:43
Speaker 2: But oh my god, the word on the streets is that you and Tank both cheated at Versus.

01:18:58
Speaker 4: Cheated. Yeah, how we cheating because.

01:19:00
Speaker 3: Y'all got y'all heads, But then y'all got the hits of others as well.

01:19:06
Speaker 4: I didn't cheat.

01:19:09
Speaker 2: I was at that versus too.

01:19:12
Speaker 4: Bob didn't Bobbie single addition songs.

01:19:15
Speaker 2: This is okay, so are we? That's fair? That's fair?

01:19:18
Speaker 3: So and Johnny is part of LSG. So I didn't cheat, you know, because Bobby Definitely. I'm like, that's when I said, hold on, you're gonna go there, we can go ahead it And you had the classic moments the same as Tank Tank turtleneck.

01:19:32
Speaker 2: You had the sh rock this ain't tea this tennesc Yeah. So you know, you know, we just entertainer. Yeah, now I had a I had a great time.

01:19:45
Speaker 4: That's just entertaining.

01:19:46
Speaker 3: Man.

01:19:46
Speaker 5: We like like, I love entertaining. I love doing things that everybody else is not doing. I think I loved like here my people tell you. I think every day about what else can I do the to shock the audience because most people that never saw me unimpression that I come out there, don't do what I do, and then when they see me, they be, oh my god, I had no clue. So I like to put that shock shock value on people.

01:20:18
Speaker 3: And so you got you got some you got something new. That's that's about the shock some people. Man, what's what's what's next?

01:20:24
Speaker 5: Well, I dropped the new record with Good Luck Part two with Calvin Richardson, George and Cupid and Roy and Chip Anthony.

01:20:34
Speaker 4: That dropped the day with the video and you know my Afrobeat the album I'm dropping.

01:20:41
Speaker 2: Man, when when is that? When is the Afrobeat the album coming.

01:20:44
Speaker 5: As soon as I finished one or two more songs and she but the song one song came out already with Clinton King Maddie.

01:20:53
Speaker 4: But I'm getting ready, fool lord, I'm getting ready hit people.

01:20:56
Speaker 3: Is that your Is that your main focus right now musically? Define really get in that space afore definitely. And you know, I got a record that I'm working on that's going to be impactful to the world. I'm should have wore my T shirt called thank Love. It's a record I'm working on called thank Love.

01:21:12
Speaker 5: Once I get all the people on the right people on it that I want, and I'm released it, and that's going to be very impactful to what's going on in the world today, because it's very important that like back in the day when everything was going on in the wall and stuff, Marvins put the song he put out What's going on right and all that. But it just seems like there's a lot going on. But a lot of people look at us as artists. They listen to our music, but we as artists, we have a voice, and our voice is not being used in the way that it can't be used. I don't mean we need to be very political on things, but there are certain things we can do and say musically that will impact people and help.

01:22:04
Speaker 4: People absolutely, and a lot of things are not being done.

01:22:08
Speaker 5: We're too busy worrying about certain other things, didn't worry about what's really going.

01:22:13
Speaker 4: On in the world.

01:22:14
Speaker 5: A lot of a lot of us are not even being not knowledgeable about what's going on because they're so caught up in social media and looking at other things, and we're not even looking at what's going on. You know what I'm saying because sometimes in life, you know, some people will dingle this in front of your face so you won't see this, and we have to learn how to look at what's real and what's not and how our focus is being taken off of this. Are they doing something by doing something completely now? Yeah, So I'm just saying that. That's why, you know, I mean, you know, but musically, you could say a lot of things that that will affect and touch people, and people will understand what you're saying because you know, that's we were all built on music.

01:23:07
Speaker 2: That's what you ain't gonna know where without it.

01:23:10
Speaker 5: It's everywhere right there, you go everywhere so once we as brothers and sisters understand what we need to do as a family, as a unit, as a whatever to change certain things in the world. We don't have to beat people over the head to change the world. Sometimes things are done in a different way and can be done in a different way.

01:23:35
Speaker 3: That's my attitude, great attitude. How do you feel about sampling? What's your what's your thoughts on sampling?

01:23:44
Speaker 4: Yeah, as it is.

01:23:46
Speaker 2: Plus I'm slampling my stuff for my apple.

01:23:49
Speaker 4: Me the album.

01:23:52
Speaker 2: But are you cool with letting other people say with if people.

01:23:56
Speaker 5: Slam with my stuff, I want to hear what these sampling and if it's dope, I'm gonna let it go. If it ain't, they ain't gonna be it. Because everything shouldn't be sample every all. My sample should not be on certain records because some records it's dope, some workers it's whack.

01:24:12
Speaker 4: And I have the right to say, right, you can't add sample my song.

01:24:17
Speaker 2: So have you thought about like catalog acquisitions or any of those type of things?

01:24:23
Speaker 3: Are you Where does your mind go when it comes to that, because that's obviously in our business now that's been a big thing over the last few years where people just like okay, twenty x fifteen x on on what the number is yearly to you know, either self piece or whole of your catalog. It depends that you got your choice to say yes or no. But if you do a catalog deal now they control that.

01:24:49
Speaker 5: Well, it depends on where you at in your life, right. I can't talk about how people financially. A lot of people do things because that's where they at financially, so they are a lot to do with whether you can hold off from doing that or whether you can. Sometimes people have to do that because that's where they are in their life, and I can't knock that because you know, you know, that's that's their idea of the option. You know, I mean, I don't know, you know, they might have to take care of their family, or they might have loved ones they want to take.

01:25:18
Speaker 4: Yeah, why they're alive or whatever the case is.

01:25:21
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. So if you can hold on to it, fine, If you can't, I mean, you know, to each his own. That's how I feel, honestly, because you know, I mean, if you build something that that's precious, and I mean because everything you know, you try to build any life from having a house and the house of praising.

01:25:45
Speaker 4: Yeah right, that ain't no different from that.

01:25:49
Speaker 5: At a time if you want to sell out and sell out because you might want the money to use it for something else or an investment, whatever the case is. You know, I don't know, So it depends on that person.

01:26:01
Speaker 3: And I you know, listen, I don't ask those questions to people that don't got the catalog. That's why I asked you, because you got a real catalog and I'm sure you get a lot of heah, But I'm gonna say this to you.

01:26:12
Speaker 5: If you know, I want my kids to always have an amazing life, and if my catalog can give them an amazing life instead of me holding going to it and I can do certain things where they can have an amazing life and live their life, of course, I'm gonna do what I gotta do in terms of because see, what's the point of me doing that? I leave hre there tomorrow. They don't get it. It's just sitting there. They don't have an amazing life, and they you know, like life is supposed to be enjoyed, right, because you can't take none of us.

01:26:44
Speaker 2: With you for sure.

01:26:46
Speaker 3: So what he's saying, is you catalog companies, He gonna need that heavy bag if he gonna even.

01:26:53
Speaker 4: Think about it.

01:26:54
Speaker 3: Don't cost sweat talking about a couple of dollars here and there, because that ain't gonna make him holor you're right on hollow.

01:27:02
Speaker 2: Dollar gotta be right, the dollar gotta be right. And new music all day long.

01:27:10
Speaker 5: So that's a whole other catalog stream. Yeah, yeah, so it ain't nothing going nowhere. I'm shooting movies. I put the catalog in the movie. Another catalog.

01:27:17
Speaker 2: So everything is gonna be what it's gonna gonna be right.

01:27:21
Speaker 3: All right, So we got we got, we got one more segment, one more segment. Man, play this record. I ain't saying no nigga, A saying no name, saying no names, ain't saying no name.

01:27:40
Speaker 2: What you did, don't say? She ain't saying no.

01:27:54
Speaker 4: Well, ain't nobody shipped to me.

01:28:01
Speaker 2: It could be funny. Then it could just be funny, you know.

01:28:04
Speaker 3: So so yeah, this is where you tell us a story funny or fucked up? Are funny and fucked up?

01:28:10
Speaker 2: The only rule to the game is Keith sweat the sweat himself. I can't say no names.

01:28:18
Speaker 5: So so what happened is like there was a show and the show was hot. It was that was they was grooving, they was doing their thing. And then I walked on stage and the crowd just went crazy and they thought they were screaming for them.

01:28:44
Speaker 2: Wait, you walked on stage while somebody else was performing and.

01:28:47
Speaker 5: They thought they were screaming the crowd when and they thought they were screaming for them. And they looked and turned around and looked at that me and said, oh ship that I can't tell you sweat.

01:28:59
Speaker 2: You walked on somebody else stage, man, I mean somebody a performance show man. Somebody told me to do it. Somebody told me, go on, just go on stage, just go and walk on the stage.

01:29:10
Speaker 5: And I did it, and the cross and they thought everybody thought they thought they were screaming for them.

01:29:16
Speaker 4: And they about me and they oh this nigga.

01:29:19
Speaker 2: Here, Oh no, yeah, that's fucked up and funny.

01:29:24
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I don't I don't know. I didn't want to walk on the stage. They told me to walk on the stage. I was minding my business, so you know.

01:29:37
Speaker 2: What.

01:29:38
Speaker 4: The no, I ain't gonna tell you about the stage.

01:29:40
Speaker 5: The other story that I was called on somebody else stage, and I was singing and they cut me off on the third songs. They said, man, if I let him sing that third song, it's gonna be a rap. They cut your mic, yeah, because like I had to it was not my tour for somebody else. Yeah, And I was killing it and they cut my BA. They said, yo, sweat, if we let you sing one more damns, it's gonna be this concert over. Niggas ain't gonna be able to come on behind you, boy let. I said, Man, all right, cool, no problem. But I can't tell that either. That's not that's not good to tell.

01:30:17
Speaker 2: I get it. Listen, I've seen I don't I've seen it with my own eyes. Yo. I've been on the road.

01:30:21
Speaker 4: You know what the amazing thing is.

01:30:24
Speaker 5: And I just you know, and I tell people that I can walk on anybody stay, whether it's the Millennial Tour, whether it is Masterpiece hip Hop, whatever, and the crowd will give me.

01:30:40
Speaker 4: Nothing but love. They'll go crazy. And I'm blessed to have that.

01:30:45
Speaker 5: I don't you know, like that that still like posles me to this day, that I can walk on a hip hop show, like when I went out and did bumby thing at the rodeo and and not when I walked and I came behind everybody but Ludacris, and they were in Banana. They were sixty thousands or better and they weren't Banana's out there.

01:31:13
Speaker 3: That's the thing too that I saw with my own eyes was all the different races, all the different colors of people that rock with key sweating, especially on the West coast.

01:31:25
Speaker 2: Right. You know, I'm a West Coast Julio Glaciers.

01:31:29
Speaker 3: Your Spanish crowd, it's different because I've seen you in the Bay. Well, you know, we got the mixed up. You know, we are melting pot up there, your La crowds though.

01:31:42
Speaker 4: The Spanish, what did you?

01:31:43
Speaker 2: What did you?

01:31:44
Speaker 3: The Latinos, the Chicanos, the lowriders like your music is like the soundtrack of their life.

01:31:53
Speaker 2: Don't don't dumb, don't like man. And when I got to see that, I think I came to you. And what's the Greek. I remember looking at the crowd.

01:32:05
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh shit, this is a whole Spanish Latino crowd going crazy to your music. Like your music has reached so many people, man, that feeling has to be incredible.

01:32:26
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean.

01:32:28
Speaker 5: To me, like when I came out, I had all the gang bangers and they probably go in the game bang you listen in the Key Sweat.

01:32:39
Speaker 2: I mean, well, you know in the Jack City they did have a shootout after you say, but I ain't got nothing to do it, you know, I mean smaked the music. Smaked the music, man.

01:32:47
Speaker 5: So I mean, you know, yeah, but it's always been like that and it's never stopped. And that's the whole thing that I'm amazed that, you know what I'm saying. It's like it's I've been blessed, you know, definitely been blessed.

01:33:03
Speaker 2: He's still going to test of time and you've absolutely done it. And I man, I just want to say thank you, thank you.

01:33:09
Speaker 4: I appreciated five hits. Only I only have five hits.

01:33:12
Speaker 3: And my man, five times what five times zero five? Let me stop playing now.

01:33:20
Speaker 5: But no, you know, for you know, I'm happy that, you know, I've they been able to, you know, give the people the music that they wanted to hear. You know, maybe I'm happy, jes you know, to be able to still do what I'm doing and doing it in a big way. So I mean I'm on tour right now, so I called R and B Lovers too with myself Joe Jenuine cut clothes through here. May sure y'all come and check it out if you need to go to keysweat dot com. Come on and see these dates dot com. I just dropped a new song called Good Love Part two Calvin Richardson, King George Fid, Roy Anthony, myself, Chip Roy Anthony. To make sure y'all go Good Love Part too. Go listen to it now the videos out, You're gonna love it, I promise you. Then the Apple Beat the album is dropping. You want to hear that I'm saying, plating my own stuff.

01:34:18
Speaker 2: I want my question?

01:34:20
Speaker 4: What's up?

01:34:21
Speaker 2: Is my good friend keV on stage? Safe? If he see you? Man, you're not? Yeah, you ain't gona put him in the trunk? Nah? He don't. You know he didn't do it?

01:34:29
Speaker 5: Man, I mean, but you know, I'm just saying he's good. Knowledge. Knowledge is But let me say this to you. Knowledge is key. So when people talk, know what they talking about. That's all I ask people to do. You know what I'm saying, do your homework. Like like if I'm gonna speak on something, I'm gonna do my homework, you know, because knowledge is key, you know what I'm saying. And then and because I'm never gonna speak on somebody or what somebody doing unless than I do my research. Yeah, that's the whole key, you know. And I know he probably was having fun.

01:34:59
Speaker 2: I'm mad.

01:34:59
Speaker 4: I'm not even tripping on that like that for real, for real, I'm just you know what I'm saying.

01:35:03
Speaker 2: I laugh. It's funny because I laugh at well, I be threatening him for you don't do that.

01:35:09
Speaker 4: Don't do that.

01:35:10
Speaker 2: You know what sweat do, don't do that, don't do that.

01:35:12
Speaker 1: No.

01:35:13
Speaker 2: But seriously, I'll be just laughing.

01:35:15
Speaker 5: I'll be a lot of things that used to bother me back in the day just make me smile right now because to me, it's like they just don't know.

01:35:23
Speaker 2: You don't know.

01:35:24
Speaker 4: If you don't know, you don't know.

01:35:25
Speaker 2: Yeah.

01:35:26
Speaker 5: So I mean because there's things that I don't know unless I do my research. So like, you know, I don't you know when I watch things like that, when I call you and be saying, who this dude talking that? Man, I kind of be like, man, pick that nigga on the fall right now, let me let me, let me have a conversation with her. Man Like dude, what's wrong with you? Stop making like I'm too old for you to rebringing my name up. Bring one of them young dudes's names of it. Leave me alone. I'm you know what I'm saying, like, I ain't.

01:35:55
Speaker 2: Got time for that mess.

01:35:56
Speaker 4: Man.

01:35:57
Speaker 2: You know what, that's just me at this point in my life. That's just me. If I ain't bother you, don't bother me, leave me alone. Keep my name at your mouth.

01:36:04
Speaker 5: I feel better when you do that, you know what I'm saying, because I still get a little irritated when you're speaking like I don't like. I don't like to be spoken on, especially if you was just speaking out of content text.

01:36:17
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I just like, come on, man, why you gotta bring my name up? And there's so many other people names you can bring up.

01:36:24
Speaker 2: Leave me alone.

01:36:25
Speaker 3: I ain't bothering you. I'm not bothering nobody. I'm doing what I love and doing my thing. If I stop bothering you, you're gonna know it. People don't bother sweat now. I'm happy. I'm I'm I'm happy. I'm content. You know what I'm saying. I'm blocking people.

01:36:49
Speaker 2: You block I ain't never blocked. Nobody's blocking people.

01:36:53
Speaker 5: I'm blocking if you, if if you, if you, if if you feel like I feel there's a pressure.

01:36:59
Speaker 3: Heat cook on on me, I'm blocking you. If I feel like there's a pressure cooking on me, I'm blocking you. Man, if you're somebody that's been blocked by Keith sweatna, I mean you're not blocked from watching let me let me chase your son.

01:37:16
Speaker 4: Bad energy is not good.

01:37:18
Speaker 5: And if I feel like you've got bad energy, what's the point of me holding what's the point that you letting?

01:37:24
Speaker 4: You even call me? Yeah?

01:37:26
Speaker 2: Like, don't I want?

01:37:27
Speaker 5: Like when I see your numbers? Like, yo, all, I already know what that this is gonna be about. It's about bad energy. Don't even call me. I'm good. You could be flys hell No, I respect that, Like, but you be fly by yourself. Don't call my phone, leave me alone. You know that's just how you know what I'm saying. Once you get to a point that you fly, then everything around me then you outding me. Baby, you don't need me. You fly, so you don't need me to be around you. You don't even need to talk to me. You don't need you A good morning, goodbye. You know what I'm saying, kiss my butt, don't need lock. That's healthy for you. You don't agree.

01:38:13
Speaker 2: I agree.

01:38:14
Speaker 5: It's healthy when you get certainly like it's healthy when you remove or healthy things about your life. Right because you know you have somebody in your life it will blame you for everything and it won't take responsibility for nothing. Nothing that's unhealthy because like there's nobody perfect and somebody you know, I'm not perfect. If I'm in a relationship with somebody, I got my fault, so you're gonna tell me you faultless.

01:38:44
Speaker 4: I don't get out of here with that.

01:38:45
Speaker 2: I ain't hard working, I don't know something, so just ain't right man.

01:38:49
Speaker 3: Back to the music, Yeah, yeah, you know, make it last for every candles, Yes, yeah, you know, platinum status, bad.

01:38:58
Speaker 2: And don't give me trust what we are and don't get it twisted. They put it to a pie. Okay, man, Like.

01:39:06
Speaker 3: I said, sweat, thank you, this is this has been amazing. Thank you, super appreciative man. Boy man, you always showed me love since the day I met you. Thank you always, man, and I can't thank you enough appreciate it. So I'm Jay Valentine and sweat. I'm you know what, Go ahead, Valentine.

01:39:27
Speaker 4: Be sweat and this is all and be money man.

01:39:30
Speaker 3: We finished, and I hope he ain't got no more questions if he wanted to ask me, take you got some to take to call me to ask a question.

01:39:42
Speaker 2: I got that