Terrifying Sasquatch Encounters in Daniel Boone National Forest | Jimmy’s New Bigfoot Evidence

<v Speaker 1>Hey, everyone, Miguel Ramirez here from Sasquatch Theory. On today's podcast,
<v Speaker 1>we have Jimmy back on the show from the Daniel
<v Speaker 1>Boone National Forest in Kentucky to update us with all
<v Speaker 1>the new activity that he's had. If you didn't catch
<v Speaker 1>his last interview, I will leave it on the end
<v Speaker 1>screen and in the description down below. Jimmy has been
<v Speaker 1>feeding the deer and trying to get trailcam photos of
<v Speaker 1>really nice bucks, and it turns out that he was
<v Speaker 1>feeding the sasquatch one time. He went up on the
<v Speaker 1>ridge was dumping out corn and these things fired off
<v Speaker 1>and they were hollering. Jimmy was able to get pretty
<v Speaker 1>good video of the vocalizations and it is unlike anything
<v Speaker 1>I've ever heard in my life, without a doubt, one
<v Speaker 1>hundred percent bigfoot. Jimmy claims he was unknowingly gifting these
<v Speaker 1>creatures and when he stopped, he feels like the activity
<v Speaker 1>really intensified. People claim that wood knocking and calling out
<v Speaker 1>to these creatures is not work and it's complete bogus,
<v Speaker 1>but Jimmy has proof in the video that he shared
<v Speaker 1>with me, and he calls out to these creatures and
<v Speaker 1>they respond. Keep in mind that a lot of those
<v Speaker 1>people saying that wood knocking and calling doesn't work have
<v Speaker 1>no idea what they're talking about, and they're just repeating
<v Speaker 1>what they've heard other channels and people say so, just
<v Speaker 1>disregard them and know that wood knocking and calling does work.
<v Speaker 1>I do not recommend it, and I don't think any
<v Speaker 1>children out there listening to this should go out in
<v Speaker 1>the woods and would knock, because you might call one
<v Speaker 1>of these things in. I appreciate all my podcast listeners
<v Speaker 1>on Spotify, iHeartRadio, Apple Podcast, or whatever platform.
<v Speaker 2>It may be.
<v Speaker 1>If you want to see the videos Jimmy shared and
<v Speaker 1>all the trail camp photos, you can check it out
<v Speaker 1>on my YouTube. With all that being said, let's dive
<v Speaker 1>into Jimmy's bigfoot encounters in the Daniel Boone National Forest
<v Speaker 1>in Kentucky. All right, Jimmy, welcome back to Sasquatch Theory.
<v Speaker 1>How are you doing today?
<v Speaker 3>I'm doing good, buddy.
<v Speaker 1>How are you doing excellent? It's a pleasure to have
<v Speaker 1>you back on the show, Jimmy. Not too long ago,
<v Speaker 1>we got together and we did some bigfoot research in
<v Speaker 1>the areas where you've had your past encounters at and
<v Speaker 1>it was certainly a spooky squatchy area in the Daniel
<v Speaker 1>Booe National Forest. When we went there, we could hear
<v Speaker 1>something paralleling us on the Forest Service roads and trails.
<v Speaker 1>And then when we got way back there, I did
<v Speaker 1>a whoop call and it sounded like something called back.
<v Speaker 1>It didn't sound like any known animal. I don't even
<v Speaker 1>know if it was bigfoot. It could have been like
<v Speaker 1>a canine creature, but you could hear him down at
<v Speaker 1>the river and we walked a long ways. But you've
<v Speaker 1>had some activity since our last trip. Can you tell
<v Speaker 1>me about the things that you've experienced since I've last
<v Speaker 1>spoken to you.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, uh yeah, I remember that that evening we went
<v Speaker 3>over there and it was kind of crazy, but uh
<v Speaker 3>I didn't I just you know, showed you all the spots,
<v Speaker 3>you know, where I'd had my stuff happened before. But
<v Speaker 3>what I didn't realize is, you know, I didn't say
<v Speaker 3>too much when in was here, but uh, these things are.
<v Speaker 3>I've had more activity, just as bad, other than a
<v Speaker 3>straight on face to face like I had before. But
<v Speaker 3>uh now it's just uh, you know I was after
<v Speaker 3>you all left, you know, the the orbs started just
<v Speaker 3>started having weird stuff happening to me, and the uh,
<v Speaker 3>the my cameras are there. You know, there's a new top.
<v Speaker 3>You know, sent a picture to yourself. I was getting
<v Speaker 3>orbs and and uh, then one evening my camera went
<v Speaker 3>off and and uh, it's set up to where you know,
<v Speaker 3>if it's something's coming, it's coming to me. And when
<v Speaker 3>I pulled it up, it's a ghost. And I sent
<v Speaker 3>you that picture, and it's just it's been crazy ever since.
<v Speaker 3>But I can't remember. I believe I told you about
<v Speaker 3>the orb and then send just whatever it was moving
<v Speaker 3>up the ridge beside me. Didn't we on the last time?
<v Speaker 1>I think you did. Can you tell me about it again?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well I don't know if it has anything to
<v Speaker 3>do with it, but well I think it has a
<v Speaker 3>whole lot to do with it. But anyway, after I
<v Speaker 3>went by myself back up to some of the places
<v Speaker 3>I told you, it wasn't. Three weeks later, just all
<v Speaker 3>kinds of crazy stuff started happening around here. I mean
<v Speaker 3>I was finding track, rock stacks, excuse me, and tree
<v Speaker 3>breaks and I got a picture of an imprint in
<v Speaker 3>the leaves that I wears I was thirteen and to
<v Speaker 3>have my boot and I put it next to it,
<v Speaker 3>and it dwarfed it. But it all started off. I
<v Speaker 3>was seeing, just seeing and hearing stuff. I was hearing
<v Speaker 3>high pitched whistles, and it was like somebody was looking
<v Speaker 3>at me, you know, trying to get me to look
<v Speaker 3>at you know, because I was hunting. You know, hey,
<v Speaker 3>I'm here, you know, don't shoot. But nothing. I couldn't
<v Speaker 3>see nothing. So one evening I moved my position and
<v Speaker 3>I'm sitting there and I'm looking up to where I
<v Speaker 3>usually hunt, and all of a sudden, this white lot
<v Speaker 3>is it starts out maybe a little bigger than a softball,
<v Speaker 3>but I mean, HiT's a white brig lot and it
<v Speaker 3>just comes up out of nowhere. And I'm sitting there
<v Speaker 3>and I'm looking at it, and I'm thinking, you know,
<v Speaker 3>what the hell am I looking at? And then I
<v Speaker 3>kept I mean, this went on. I probably looked this
<v Speaker 3>thing for anywhere two to four minutes maybe, and I
<v Speaker 3>got out of my little blind and I stood up
<v Speaker 3>and I was looking at it, and I thought, well,
<v Speaker 3>that old man's brought his granson back here to hunt.
<v Speaker 3>And that's why I got out, you know, just to
<v Speaker 3>see if I could see him. When I got out,
<v Speaker 3>I realized I was looking totally in the wrong direction.
<v Speaker 3>This was coming off of a little finger ridge. But
<v Speaker 3>this ball, it started out a little bitger softball or yeah, softball,
<v Speaker 3>and then it went up to maybe the size of
<v Speaker 3>a soccer ball, and it had these rays coming out
<v Speaker 3>each side. I called them rods. They went from the
<v Speaker 3>thickness of that ball down to a point. And I
<v Speaker 3>mean these things were out eight to ten feet, but
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if that's just swear. The light was
<v Speaker 3>bright making it look like that, and I was trying
<v Speaker 3>to figure out what the hell I was looking at,
<v Speaker 3>and then it just I mean, it's quick, it was there.
<v Speaker 3>It's just proof. It went off like it wasn't even there.
<v Speaker 3>And I thought, was that ball light? And I thought, well, god, no,
<v Speaker 3>it's in the wintertime and it was overcast, no rain,
<v Speaker 3>no storms, no nothing. So I got back in the
<v Speaker 3>blind and was sitting there and went I'm thinking maybe
<v Speaker 3>five minutes it went by or something, and I caught
<v Speaker 3>movement out on my peripheral vision. Now on my left eye.
<v Speaker 3>It was on the same little finger ridge, but up
<v Speaker 3>about forty fifty yards from that, I seen what looked
<v Speaker 3>like an upright whatever this was, it was It was
<v Speaker 3>a charcolate brown that kind of have a red tint
<v Speaker 3>to it, and it was moving. I just seen movement.
<v Speaker 3>I didn't really break down to look and see what
<v Speaker 3>it was at that time. It just movement caught my eye,
<v Speaker 3>so I turned and looked, and it went behind a
<v Speaker 3>pine tree that wasn't real big, maybe twelve sixteen inches
<v Speaker 3>in diameter, had never come out to the other side,
<v Speaker 3>and I thought, what where was I looking at? And
<v Speaker 3>then about I don't know, not even ten yards up
<v Speaker 3>and from it it come out again. I seen movement again.
<v Speaker 3>Each time I turned my head, that's when i'd see movement.
<v Speaker 3>When I turned back, he'd go behind a tree. It
<v Speaker 3>had done that three different times going up at ridge.
<v Speaker 3>And that's when I got up and I said, no,
<v Speaker 3>I'm not doing this and I come home and that's
<v Speaker 3>when when I got here, she was all tore up.
<v Speaker 3>While all this was going on, something to come up
<v Speaker 3>and smack the back of the house here that had
<v Speaker 3>mud on it, like something had been thrown. You could
<v Speaker 3>see mud about twelve feet up. It was just right
<v Speaker 3>under the soft I mean, I don't know what the
<v Speaker 3>hell that would have been. And it was just it
<v Speaker 3>was just constantly. I was seeing like smoke, you know,
<v Speaker 3>how you got a peripheral vision. I was just seeing
<v Speaker 3>movie flashes of dark stuff, you know. And I've had
<v Speaker 3>to deal with that my whole life and really never
<v Speaker 3>paid attention to it. But just everything kept escalating up,
<v Speaker 3>and it just kept ramping up. The more I went over,
<v Speaker 3>the more the more stuff it was happening to me.
<v Speaker 3>And I don't know, man, I just and that was Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>that happened right before where you all come down than
<v Speaker 3>after you all left is when it it really got crazy.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you were already having activity before the Ozar
<v Speaker 1>carry man myself came down to Kentucky.
<v Speaker 2>To visit you.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that is strange because when the Ozar carry
<v Speaker 1>man found an Airbnb cabin, I was shocked that he
<v Speaker 1>actually found one that was like right down the road
<v Speaker 1>from you, Like we we all had no idea.
<v Speaker 2>It was just random.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah no, And I mean that, I mean I just
<v Speaker 3>couldn't believe you wasn't you ain't Williams was staying. Was
<v Speaker 3>not even a half a mile from me, just across
<v Speaker 3>the main road. I mean, it was never even knew
<v Speaker 3>they had one over there. But I mean, just things
<v Speaker 3>worked out, and I wish that because I don't. I
<v Speaker 3>don't know if we'd have got anything. But you know,
<v Speaker 3>I never always thought that you what I've seen two
<v Speaker 3>different times have been paralleled, more than I could even count.
<v Speaker 3>And all my dads and brothers have been I have
<v Speaker 3>had these things, encounters with these these things, and I
<v Speaker 3>always thought, like where I live now and around where
<v Speaker 3>people was seeing, you know, and I'm I'm not far
<v Speaker 3>out of town. But I was wrong. These things I
<v Speaker 3>believe in these areas may just as much, if not
<v Speaker 3>more than deep than where we went.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it blew my mind that we went super deep
<v Speaker 1>into the Daniel Boone National Forest. And after we left,
<v Speaker 1>you're having activity at your house, Like behind your house,
<v Speaker 1>is that the Cumberland River back there?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay it is, Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>That's that's wild.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So if you would tell us about these experiences
<v Speaker 1>that you had after we left Kentucky.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, well after you all left, you know, I have
<v Speaker 3>Let's see, I'm trying to think Winians was here, but
<v Speaker 3>this all, this all really took off. And see when
<v Speaker 3>was it I sent you the picture. I'm pretty sure
<v Speaker 3>it was like the first of January, somewhere in there.
<v Speaker 3>I had been, you know, feeding the deer. We like
<v Speaker 3>just feed them and get them on cameras and stuff.
<v Speaker 3>So we go up there. I get out of the
<v Speaker 3>truck like I've done a hundred times before, throw the
<v Speaker 3>sack feed on my back and walk up or to it.
<v Speaker 3>Soon as I took it off, in that bag of
<v Speaker 3>feed hit the ground. I got the first call and
<v Speaker 3>I have got a picture this. I sent you the
<v Speaker 3>exact time that that corn hit the ground as one
<v Speaker 3>of the first growl, scream or whatever it was. And
<v Speaker 3>I'm looking up and I mean, I don't know, it's
<v Speaker 3>just crazy. So I'm thinking, my mind, I just heard
<v Speaker 3>something because of echoing off the river because I'm not there,
<v Speaker 3>And so I poured out and she's in the truck.
<v Speaker 3>So I poured a corn out and I'm going back
<v Speaker 3>down there. But me walking through it had snowed a
<v Speaker 3>little bit and it was everything was frozen. It was crunching.
<v Speaker 3>But as I'm going back to the truck, which is
<v Speaker 3>a far I'm hearing these things and I'm thinking, you're crazy,
<v Speaker 3>you're losing your mind that you're not hearing this. And
<v Speaker 3>the first thing that we heard when I got back there,
<v Speaker 3>right before you hear the first I mean it was
<v Speaker 3>far off, but it was real deep. You hear like
<v Speaker 3>a low grumble or a growl, and then that it
<v Speaker 3>was like right there next to us. Then it was
<v Speaker 3>off in the distance. You heard the big growl like roar.
<v Speaker 3>Basically that was probably I'm gonna say, three to five
<v Speaker 3>seconds long. And then uh, maybe five seconds after that,
<v Speaker 3>across the river, you hear this one fire up and
<v Speaker 3>you get you know what I'm saying. You got the
<v Speaker 3>audio and the video of it. Uh, but altogether, I
<v Speaker 3>think I ended up recording a video was seventeen or
<v Speaker 3>night ten minutes long, and toward the end, I know,
<v Speaker 3>I got excited and everything. But toward the end, when
<v Speaker 3>I'm hollering back, this thing is responded to me and
<v Speaker 3>he had moved closer, and I mean I just couldn't
<v Speaker 3>believe it. And I kept thinking to myself, I knew it.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, all this stuff I was seeing just a
<v Speaker 3>few months ago was you know, wasn't in my head.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, these things are here, and I was feeding
<v Speaker 3>it here before I headed back down to Tennessee to
<v Speaker 3>go to work. I stayed down there during the week,
<v Speaker 3>and so I didn't want to leave, but I had to,
<v Speaker 3>so I go to work. Four or five days later,
<v Speaker 3>we come back and we get here to the house
<v Speaker 3>and we're not in the house maybe thirty forty five
<v Speaker 3>minutes at the most, Miguel, and we're sitting here watching TV.
<v Speaker 3>And I don't know. It's never happened to me, but
<v Speaker 3>we were here in owl so loud it was over
<v Speaker 3>the sound of the TV playing, and I had a feeling,
<v Speaker 3>I thought, And I walk out on the open of
<v Speaker 3>my back door and step out on the porch and
<v Speaker 3>the ridge behind my house is where I hunt, and
<v Speaker 3>up on the very top was the first hoot alcohol
<v Speaker 3>and you could tell they were so they were trying
<v Speaker 3>to mimic one, but it was not an owl. And
<v Speaker 3>there was six of them that started at the ridge
<v Speaker 3>and it worked all the way down and the very
<v Speaker 3>last alcohol was exactly where I feed the deer. And
<v Speaker 3>I thought, you've got to be kidding me. And I
<v Speaker 3>knew it. I knew then. I thought, yeah, so you
<v Speaker 3>know they're still here, and I'll be honest with you.
<v Speaker 3>It under settled me a little bit. It scared me
<v Speaker 3>a little bit because it was dark, but I was
<v Speaker 3>hearing stuff crashing through because it was still cold. It
<v Speaker 3>had been cold for a week or two. I think here,
<v Speaker 3>and so I come back in and step out on
<v Speaker 3>the front porch and where I seen the stuff. That's
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to get into a few minutes about all
<v Speaker 3>the orbs recently. You could hear something moving and it
<v Speaker 3>spooked herned she come back inside and shortly after I did,
<v Speaker 3>and you could tell whatever this was, I mean, it
<v Speaker 3>wasn't right. I come in and get my phone and
<v Speaker 3>I go back out and down the steps on the
<v Speaker 3>back porch and I'm I'm hearing them over on the
<v Speaker 3>ridge where I was hunting at. But I started hearing
<v Speaker 3>the leaves and stuff like something moving through the trees.
<v Speaker 3>And I turned it around and that's when I got
<v Speaker 3>the eye shine and it was probably about eighty yards
<v Speaker 3>from me. And I sent you that video when I pictures.
<v Speaker 3>I'm pretty sure too that was that was unsettling, and
<v Speaker 3>because whatever it was was standing there looking at me,
<v Speaker 3>and I just had a feeling turned around and when
<v Speaker 3>I did, because I was filming off where I was hunting,
<v Speaker 3>and I turned around and these these eyes and there
<v Speaker 3>it's a moonlit night and you can see there's this
<v Speaker 3>light skimm of snow on the ground. But these eyes
<v Speaker 3>are self illuminating and they are huge, and that's uh,
<v Speaker 3>I don't know that. That's just something that's terrifying. And
<v Speaker 3>and then I I have started having the the dreams
<v Speaker 3>and stuff like that. Again, I don't know, but the
<v Speaker 3>only thing I can. I don't care if anybody believes me.
<v Speaker 3>I really don't. But all this kicked off after me
<v Speaker 3>going back up or to where I've had my worst
<v Speaker 3>and encounter that I've ever had in my life. And
<v Speaker 3>then when me and her was up at camping and
<v Speaker 3>we was here in one screen that night up there,
<v Speaker 3>it sat like a siren. I went to those two
<v Speaker 3>places and uh, three weeks later, I mean, the past
<v Speaker 3>two or three weeks ain't been bad here. I can
<v Speaker 3>tell when they're around every dog in the valley raising
<v Speaker 3>haill and you could just tell just something, don't feel rot.
<v Speaker 3>But now it just it just keeps going on.
<v Speaker 1>After that, Yeah, that's definitely spooky activity. And I had
<v Speaker 1>a feeling that you were going to continue having bigfoot
<v Speaker 1>encounters because when I first interviewed you, you told me
<v Speaker 1>the story where you were camping with your family and
<v Speaker 1>this thing came down the mountain, and I remember every
<v Speaker 1>detail about it, and I think you said it was
<v Speaker 1>your uncle. He had the rifle and he was shaken
<v Speaker 1>so bad he could barely hold the rifle, and you
<v Speaker 1>thought it was normal, Like you grew up as a
<v Speaker 1>child thinking that this type of phenomenon was just normal.
<v Speaker 1>And I had the same experience when I had my
<v Speaker 1>bigfoot encounters later on in life, Like after I encountered them,
<v Speaker 1>like it rewired my brain, and I felt like everyone
<v Speaker 1>would know what I was talking about, especially big time hunters,
<v Speaker 1>Like if you would mention bigfoot to them, they'd be like, oh, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I've had experiences too, but like nobody seemed to know
<v Speaker 1>what I was talking about, And it just gave me
<v Speaker 1>that feeling. So I'm sorry you had to grow up
<v Speaker 1>as a child, you know, confused by this, thinking that
<v Speaker 1>it was normal and everybody knew about it, but they
<v Speaker 1>didn't no.
<v Speaker 3>And what made me think that it was normal. My
<v Speaker 3>dad wouldn't really say nothing because he didn't want to
<v Speaker 3>scare me. And you know how it is when you're
<v Speaker 3>camping with you a bunch of your uncles and then
<v Speaker 3>there's any drinking involved, which there was as a kid
<v Speaker 3>growing up that changes. Everybody got older. But it was
<v Speaker 3>just an encounter after encounter. I mean, there was fifteen
<v Speaker 3>of them on my dad's side somewhere, step brothers and sisters,
<v Speaker 3>but all my uncles and stuff. Ever. One of them
<v Speaker 3>had had stuff happen, been chased out of the woods.
<v Speaker 3>Coon dogs got in a fight with something. The coon
<v Speaker 3>dogs hit the river and this thing one of them
<v Speaker 3>tried to come in under the cliff on them. And
<v Speaker 3>it's just, I mean, I thought it was normal, I
<v Speaker 3>really did, and it just I just honestly, I didn't
<v Speaker 3>tell nobody because my uncle he's dead now, Uncle Jim,
<v Speaker 3>he told me, he said, boy, you just keep this
<v Speaker 3>stuff your stuff. He said, they'll think you crazy. He said,
<v Speaker 3>just don't tell no one. And because I was going
<v Speaker 3>off of him telling me what had happened to you know,
<v Speaker 3>nobody would believe him and stuff like that. But I
<v Speaker 3>just stayed away from a lot of these spots. And
<v Speaker 3>like I said, you know, I've got proof that you
<v Speaker 3>know I'm telling the truth because it's dead witnesses, and
<v Speaker 3>it's just I don't know, it's hard to explain me
<v Speaker 3>standing away all them years and I come back here
<v Speaker 3>and then last year three weeks after being last or
<v Speaker 3>actually it was this fall be two years ago, but
<v Speaker 3>three weeks after I come back from going up in there.
<v Speaker 3>This stuff is happening here, and I don't know if
<v Speaker 3>it was done already here, and it just took me
<v Speaker 3>that long to figure out. But one of the first trips,
<v Speaker 3>I went back here behind the house. She'd got me
<v Speaker 3>a crossbow, and there's a huge seater thicket that runs
<v Speaker 3>this bluff. The only way is there's a no logging
<v Speaker 3>road that I was on, but all the game trails
<v Speaker 3>were going right through the cedar thickets, you know how.
<v Speaker 3>The game loved the cedar thickets. So I'm going around.
<v Speaker 3>I get all the way around there to the end
<v Speaker 3>of it, and it's probably a quarter mile long, and
<v Speaker 3>I'd say no more than sixty to eighty yards wide,
<v Speaker 3>and get around there to the end, and something startles me.
<v Speaker 3>A sound died and when I turned around, it sounded
<v Speaker 3>like a tree falling, you know how when they followed yours,
<v Speaker 3>breaking all kinds of stuff, just limbs, And when I
<v Speaker 3>turned around, I was looking to see something, but this
<v Speaker 3>kept falling for like fifteen twenty seconds, just crashing like
<v Speaker 3>a tree falling, and when stuff like this happens to you,
<v Speaker 3>it takes your brain. Your brain's trying to figure out
<v Speaker 3>what in the hell's going on. And then about that time,
<v Speaker 3>about one hundred to two hundred blackbirds come ripping out
<v Speaker 3>over my head. And what I didn't realize some of
<v Speaker 3>them was running through that thicket poured me and stopped
<v Speaker 3>right at the edge, no more than fifty yards from me,
<v Speaker 3>And that scared me to death. I went home. I
<v Speaker 3>called her and I said, I I've just had something happen.
<v Speaker 3>I'm coming home. I can't do this. I mean, how
<v Speaker 3>do you explain the sound of a tree falling for
<v Speaker 3>fifteen to twenty seconds and that's just it's all right here.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, all of this stuff is just right here
<v Speaker 3>at my house.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>So you have a family history of bigfoot experiences and
<v Speaker 1>it was normal in your family growing up.
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, and everybody that grew up down around my
<v Speaker 3>dad and stuff. I remember my dad said when he
<v Speaker 3>was a young kid growing up, there was this lady
<v Speaker 3>that lived by herself. Her husband had passed away, lived
<v Speaker 3>out on the end of a ridge right and right
<v Speaker 3>behind her house, dropped straight off to the river, and
<v Speaker 3>said that he remembers my grandpa talking to other men
<v Speaker 3>and my dad and all his brothers would be there
<v Speaker 3>about how these wood boogers were coming up to steal
<v Speaker 3>her chickens and she was shooting at and trying to
<v Speaker 3>run it off, and they just thought it was normal.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, they were like, oh, yeah, just leave them alone.
<v Speaker 3>You know, they ain't going to bother you. It was
<v Speaker 3>just right around where dad and them grew up. It
<v Speaker 3>was I think normal normally. It was just I don't know,
<v Speaker 3>it didn't bring up strike up any news if you
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying, you know, about to bring up
<v Speaker 3>a conversation. Everybody just knew it was the fact.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, And it's pretty interesting that your families had experiences,
<v Speaker 1>so you did have that you weren't completely isolated. But yeah,
<v Speaker 1>when you talk to other people, they don't see to
<v Speaker 1>know what like what you're talking about. And I've I
<v Speaker 1>actually had an interview on my channel from that same area.
<v Speaker 1>The guy called it the Burnside Monster, and he was
<v Speaker 1>on the show. And you know, this is fairly close
<v Speaker 1>to where you're at. I'm not going to say exactly
<v Speaker 1>where you are, but you know it's the Daniel Boone
<v Speaker 1>National Forest which is pretty darn big. But you have
<v Speaker 1>the shadow person or a sasquatch, I don't know. You
<v Speaker 1>got that on the trail camera, and to me it
<v Speaker 1>looks like the real deal.
<v Speaker 2>What do you think it is?
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, man, I don't know if it's turn normal.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what the hell it is. But you
<v Speaker 3>can imagine, and you can see in the picture it's
<v Speaker 3>right at dusky dark. So imagine sitting in the woods
<v Speaker 3>where you've had all this stuff going on. Your phone
<v Speaker 3>vibrates and you look at it and you can tell
<v Speaker 3>the you know how you set your camera, if you
<v Speaker 3>can tell what's coming to you. Now, that's just it's
<v Speaker 3>not a comfortable feeling at all. And hell, uh that
<v Speaker 3>was all last fall or an earlier part of this year,
<v Speaker 3>and just the last three weeks it's been quiet, but uh,
<v Speaker 3>hell a month and a half ago. I mean, it's
<v Speaker 3>just it's it's just kept going. But I'll back up
<v Speaker 3>before I get into uh, if you want me to
<v Speaker 3>tell you about the orbs outside the house, I can
<v Speaker 3>go into that, or we can talk about something else.
<v Speaker 2>Now, yeah, absolutely, let's talk about it.
<v Speaker 3>All right. Well, I got a big call blaster, so uh,
<v Speaker 3>that's uh bluetooth. And you remember the all of the
<v Speaker 3>audio I sent you and and you sent it to
<v Speaker 3>Ozar carry man, Well, I got some back in some
<v Speaker 3>different ones. So, uh, we go up on the hill
<v Speaker 3>or I don't want to give it away too much,
<v Speaker 3>for I was close to where I was, basically right
<v Speaker 3>on top of where I hunt, and uh, it's a
<v Speaker 3>perfect place. It's a very high ridge bluff's blow and
<v Speaker 3>I just I don't know. I thought I'm gonna go
<v Speaker 3>up there, and I was not expecting this at all,
<v Speaker 3>and I've got a witness to it. I mean, we
<v Speaker 3>parked the truck, turned it off. I'm kind of screwing
<v Speaker 3>around with it because that's the first time I've really
<v Speaker 3>let it play through. I play my call. Man. I mean,
<v Speaker 3>I've never heard of echo run the way these canyons
<v Speaker 3>do and the where the river runs. And I mean
<v Speaker 3>it was just like you had a PA system for
<v Speaker 3>miles either direction, and I hear something but it was
<v Speaker 3>way off, but I know the direction that was coming at.
<v Speaker 3>So I waited a second or two. I mean, this
<v Speaker 3>all happens within thirty to forty five seconds of me
<v Speaker 3>turning the truck off. I hit that thing again and
<v Speaker 3>when it blasts off this time, no, whatever it is.
<v Speaker 3>It was a moonlit and I and you could see
<v Speaker 3>about about approximately where this thing was. I got a
<v Speaker 3>response back, and I mean it was a loud vocalization
<v Speaker 3>and I was fumbling around and I still need to
<v Speaker 3>send those audio things so you can plug them in
<v Speaker 3>and bleed them through. But yeah, that was that was crazy.
<v Speaker 3>Done it to truth? Well? No more tu or three times?
<v Speaker 3>It was flowly four or five times. I got several responses.
<v Speaker 3>And then you know how kytie is when when we
<v Speaker 3>were down there, you could play a call on how
<v Speaker 3>they'll you can tell when they're answered to you, coming
<v Speaker 3>to you. I got that response. But it sounded like
<v Speaker 3>they was a pack of twenty five of them at least,
<v Speaker 3>if not more. They were over. It sounded like they
<v Speaker 3>were fighting and ripping each other apart. They wouldn't yeping
<v Speaker 3>and howling and carrying on like they do. I mean,
<v Speaker 3>these things were fighting. And what they were fighting, I
<v Speaker 3>have no idea. And it was across the lake from me,
<v Speaker 3>and I said, yep, I'm done with this, and I
<v Speaker 3>turned around because I wasn't facing out like I should
<v Speaker 3>have been, So I went down the road and turned
<v Speaker 3>around and come back to the house. This was on
<v Speaker 3>a Friday night or Saturday night. Well, get up Monday morning.
<v Speaker 3>I have to get up at four and leave at
<v Speaker 3>four point thirty. And so Monday morning I go out
<v Speaker 3>and go down the steps, and I don't know why
<v Speaker 3>I don't. I don't never look that way because I've
<v Speaker 3>got the little solar lights that light up my sidewalk,
<v Speaker 3>my concrete sidewalk. Always. They were looking there and I
<v Speaker 3>hit the key fob on the truck, you know, light
<v Speaker 3>it up because it's dark, and I don't know, something
<v Speaker 3>just caught my eye. I don't know if it was
<v Speaker 3>a peripheral vision or whatever, but anyway, looked over and
<v Speaker 3>they I thought it was dear eyeshow and there were
<v Speaker 3>six or seven they were I thought eyeballs at first,
<v Speaker 3>I really did, but the longer I stared at him.
<v Speaker 3>This went on for probably ten to fifteen second I
<v Speaker 3>was looking at them, and I realized, no, they ain't
<v Speaker 3>to them side beside. I couldn't really judge how high
<v Speaker 3>they were off the ground. I know once I started
<v Speaker 3>looking at them, and I ruled out it was in
<v Speaker 3>the deer. They were way higher than what of deer's
<v Speaker 3>eyes would be. But they wasn't together in sets of twos,
<v Speaker 3>if you know what I mean. And they were like
<v Speaker 3>a light blue and a light green, and they were
<v Speaker 3>kind of scattered a little bit, but no more than
<v Speaker 3>fifteen feet apart. All of them wasn't but the farthest
<v Speaker 3>one to the right was They were all the size
<v Speaker 3>of I would say, easily a golf ball, but the
<v Speaker 3>farthest one to the right was a light green. And
<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden, I can stand in front of
<v Speaker 3>God right now. This thing takes off going up through
<v Speaker 3>the trees. The leaves were starting to grow pretty good.
<v Speaker 3>This is just a month and a half ago. This
<v Speaker 3>thing takes off and just starts floating up. I could
<v Speaker 3>see it going up through the leaves and you can
<v Speaker 3>see the tree limbs where you know, you could see
<v Speaker 3>the city lights and everything. And it goes up and
<v Speaker 3>just goes up into the sky. And I said, hell, no,
<v Speaker 3>I'm not doing this, and I just kept hitting my
<v Speaker 3>Keith Fobin got in the truck and left. Tuesday morning,
<v Speaker 3>I get up and go out there there again. I
<v Speaker 3>didn't really try to count on how many balls of
<v Speaker 3>life they were. I ignored it and went to the truck.
<v Speaker 3>The third morning I went out, I would not look
<v Speaker 3>that way. I just had a creepy feeling. And then
<v Speaker 3>it was probably just me spook not knowing what it was.
<v Speaker 3>But Thursday morning, when I went out, I got to
<v Speaker 3>the truck and I thought, you know what, I'm going
<v Speaker 3>to look over there, and when I did, there was
<v Speaker 3>one single orb there. And that was just two days
<v Speaker 3>after me coming off the mountain up here call blasted.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you feel like hall blasting triggered this activity?
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I know it did, Yeah, because like I said,
<v Speaker 3>I had them when I was up here, when I
<v Speaker 3>seen the first big orb and you can see where
<v Speaker 3>Mudd been slung against the house. And I mean, it's
<v Speaker 3>not me just talking about this, you know. And I've
<v Speaker 3>told you before I thought it was normal. And when
<v Speaker 3>I talk about this stuff, they're not stories to me.
<v Speaker 3>A story is something you make up. If you have
<v Speaker 3>a true encounter, you know you and God knows the truth.
<v Speaker 3>And but I just you know, here again one starts.
<v Speaker 3>It seems like every time I start trying to dabble
<v Speaker 3>and research or just kind of do a little bit more,
<v Speaker 3>it just seems like these things will start popping up
<v Speaker 3>but after the I want to back up a little bit,
<v Speaker 3>before the orbs, but after all the alcohols and eye shine.
<v Speaker 3>It went on for ture or three weeks. I mean,
<v Speaker 3>it was crazy around here, and I could tell when
<v Speaker 3>they were around. Every dog in this valley was raising hell.
<v Speaker 3>And you go outside and there would be no sounds whatsoever,
<v Speaker 3>but these dogs just raising hell, and I could just
<v Speaker 3>tell that they were around. And just two weeks ago,
<v Speaker 3>we went fishing, brought my boat back and my nephew said,
<v Speaker 3>oh my god, what was that. That's what you mean?
<v Speaker 3>He said, don't you hear that walking up there? And
<v Speaker 3>I said, yeah, I forgot about that. But back to
<v Speaker 3>the orbs and stuff, and it was just it was
<v Speaker 3>all for me, all for me going up there. But
<v Speaker 3>I don't, I don't know how to explain it all, man,
<v Speaker 3>I really don't. I mean, people need to realize these
<v Speaker 3>things are they're not made up, and people ain't doing
<v Speaker 3>it to seek any fame or glory, because I damn
<v Speaker 3>sure ain't done it. And I'm just I thought it
<v Speaker 3>was normal. And I've sent you all the stuff. I've
<v Speaker 3>got three audio clips I need to send you, but
<v Speaker 3>I really don't, I really don't know how to explain
<v Speaker 3>everything that's happened. And oh, yeah, a couple of weeks ago,
<v Speaker 3>and I can't remember the same evening, me and my nephew,
<v Speaker 3>same one. It's fishing and uh, a rock thirty feet
<v Speaker 3>out from the mank because splash, it hits no trees
<v Speaker 3>hanging over, So you tell me where or not unless
<v Speaker 3>a meteor fell out of the sky. And this ain't
<v Speaker 3>This ain't the first time this has ever happened. It's
<v Speaker 3>happened to me and my dad before. But my nephew,
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it was just a splash. Nobody around, there's
<v Speaker 3>no houses around. We're up in a feeder creek. Uh,
<v Speaker 3>no trees overhanging. So what's the size of a baseball
<v Speaker 3>that hits the water?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that is strange.
<v Speaker 1>I often wonder like what the connection is with the
<v Speaker 1>orbs and the sasquatch activity, But in my opinion, it's
<v Speaker 1>certainly connected. And do you think that you were seeing
<v Speaker 1>eye shine or orbs or orbs and eyeshine?
<v Speaker 3>You know, I've never really thought all of that, miguil h.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I've never even because the only thing
<v Speaker 3>I was taken away that it wasn't a year they
<v Speaker 3>were too far apart. Now that's got me thinking.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, it seems like they've targeted you, like you're
<v Speaker 1>on their radar. You've been marked by them, and they're
<v Speaker 1>just following you throughout your life. Obviously it doesn't happen
<v Speaker 1>every day, but sometimes it happens a lot more than others.
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know, I do feel like it's strange,
<v Speaker 1>Like you sent me those videos of those vocalizations that
<v Speaker 1>were amazing, by the way, and like right after that,
<v Speaker 1>I told you I was going to send you my
<v Speaker 1>audio recorder. I sent it, and then you ended up
<v Speaker 1>having surgery and it was a pretty serious surgery. So
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it was strange that this build up
<v Speaker 1>happened right before you were going to go.
<v Speaker 2>Through all of that.
<v Speaker 3>And I don't know, yeah, because I feel like it's act. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>I do too, because I couldn't get out there and
<v Speaker 3>I'm still you know, I'm able to go to work,
<v Speaker 3>you know, and it was just it was a life
<v Speaker 3>change in surgery, that's for sure forever. And uh, but yeah,
<v Speaker 3>I honestly wondered why too. And then then I've heard
<v Speaker 3>other people on their talk about their encounters and stuff.
<v Speaker 3>For just different things that they always seem like they
<v Speaker 3>were people that had some kind of a disability or
<v Speaker 3>this or that or whatever. It was, either physical or
<v Speaker 3>mental or whatever. A lot of people was having encounters
<v Speaker 3>and I don't know if there's anything to that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it certainly seems supernatural. Now, these dreams that you had,
<v Speaker 1>you want to elaborate on them, kind of what happened
<v Speaker 1>in your dreams? You can either sum it up or
<v Speaker 1>you can tell me pretty much everything that happened.
<v Speaker 2>How do you feel about that?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know if I want to tell everything
<v Speaker 3>in my dreams, but I don't know. It's messed up, man,
<v Speaker 3>It's uh yeah, yeah.
<v Speaker 1>So do you feel like they got into your dreams
<v Speaker 1>or like maybe you've got like a supernatural message from
<v Speaker 1>the other side or even God possibly.
<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, I don't. I don't know what it was.
<v Speaker 3>But I've had dreams about these ever since I was
<v Speaker 3>a kid. You know, these things chasing me, and I
<v Speaker 3>don't care how damn fast you are either any dreams,
<v Speaker 3>you're on your own two feet. You can't outrun them.
<v Speaker 3>And that'll coincide with what I've seen across the road
<v Speaker 3>of just a few months back. But the speed of
<v Speaker 3>these things are it's just hideous. Uh, the fastest thing
<v Speaker 3>at the fastest thing I've ever seen in my life
<v Speaker 3>cross the road. But anyway, in the dreams, it was
<v Speaker 3>just I can't really make it out, but it's like
<v Speaker 3>he's It's like, what what made it surreal to me
<v Speaker 3>is I woke up and I could still feel it
<v Speaker 3>on my back. It's like when it's whatever it was
<v Speaker 3>touched me went plump through my body. When I woke up.
<v Speaker 3>It was five minutes after and I could still feel
<v Speaker 3>the tingling and burning sensation. And I even woke her
<v Speaker 3>up and asked her to look if it was a
<v Speaker 3>mark on my back. But these things had come to
<v Speaker 3>me and uh told me pretty much what they are
<v Speaker 3>and where they're from. And uh, and you know, and
<v Speaker 3>I can't I can't say that. Uh. I know. When
<v Speaker 3>I woke up, I felt a feeling and you know,
<v Speaker 3>if everything's that way or there, but you know, it
<v Speaker 3>was like they were They didn't like show me a video,
<v Speaker 3>but it's just the way I felt was what was
<v Speaker 3>it playing in my brain and the way my body felt.
<v Speaker 3>But it was like it come up to me and
<v Speaker 3>laid its hand on my back. And it was when
<v Speaker 3>I woke up, I still had the same feeling as
<v Speaker 3>in the dream, but it was like they were they
<v Speaker 3>were from the Bible, and I don't. I mean, there's
<v Speaker 3>more of it to it, but I just don't know
<v Speaker 3>if I want to really get into all of it.
<v Speaker 3>It's hard to talk about it. It's not it's kind
<v Speaker 3>of embarrassing. People think you freaking crazy, but I don't care.
<v Speaker 3>But these things were part of the Nephilum uh, and
<v Speaker 3>they are here for an agenda, and I don't. I
<v Speaker 3>really don't want to go anything past that. But yeah,
<v Speaker 3>that's uh. They they've they revealed theirself to me. I
<v Speaker 3>don't know what they are. I really don't, man, And uh,
<v Speaker 3>but I can tell you what I've seen is not
<v Speaker 3>no not no monkey. Excuse me, it's not no monkey
<v Speaker 3>that's been passed over, that stayed hidden for all those years. No,
<v Speaker 3>they're they're not. And all these people that's pushing that
<v Speaker 3>agenda forward is full of shit. Excuse my language, but
<v Speaker 3>they are. You listen to all these people that come
<v Speaker 3>on these shows and given counters. I can read the
<v Speaker 3>bs from the truth, but ninety nine point nine percent
<v Speaker 3>of them all say they're human like like I did.
<v Speaker 3>Are they are? They? Do they look like apes? Yes?
<v Speaker 3>They they some that probably can too. I'm not saying
<v Speaker 3>that they all don't. I'm just saying what I've seen
<v Speaker 3>and listened to so many other people. They have too
<v Speaker 3>many human characteristics. They're not built like us. They're they
<v Speaker 3>don't have a neck. They're massive. The one I seen
<v Speaker 3>thirty yards was hell. This thing was four feet wide,
<v Speaker 3>at least eight nine feet tall, eight hundred to one
<v Speaker 3>thousand pounds, and its arms were seven or eight feet long.
<v Speaker 3>And imagine something like that chasing you off side of
<v Speaker 3>a mountain and you can and you could hear it,
<v Speaker 3>you could ye oh god, yeah. I just I don't
<v Speaker 3>know what they are, man, I really don't. But I
<v Speaker 3>know when you are, you and the ozar carryman come down.
<v Speaker 3>I ain't going to give the place where we went
<v Speaker 3>visiting to Daniel Boone. There was something parallel on us
<v Speaker 3>at one time, on both sides, and it was obviously
<v Speaker 3>and it ain't no deer. Deer don't follow people around
<v Speaker 3>side of the hill. They don't do it. And when
<v Speaker 3>you made that call, if you'll remember, everything was kind
<v Speaker 3>of weird and creepy till then, but when you made
<v Speaker 3>that call, it seemed like all hell broke loose until
<v Speaker 3>we got out there and then storms were blowing in.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, and that storm came out of nowhere. We were
<v Speaker 1>definitely being paralleled. There was definitely some strange vocalizations in
<v Speaker 1>that area, and we were just running out of time.
<v Speaker 1>It was just strange how that storm just moved in
<v Speaker 1>out of nowhere and we had a bucket and walk
<v Speaker 1>miles back to the vehicle. But yeah, to sum up
<v Speaker 1>the dream, basically, you were told that these things were
<v Speaker 1>the Naphelom and God told us to get ready. I
<v Speaker 1>mean that That's pretty much what it comes down to.
<v Speaker 1>And that is strange that you had this super ultra
<v Speaker 1>realistic dream and you woke up with the same feeling
<v Speaker 1>like something had actually touched you.
<v Speaker 3>Well, I've yeah, there's only one another dream that was
<v Speaker 3>more eye opening, and that and I don't want to
<v Speaker 3>get into that, but that happened when my dad had
<v Speaker 3>had a stroke and me and her were staying at
<v Speaker 3>my mom and Dad's helping with my dad and my
<v Speaker 3>mom and and uh, I don't know what the hell
<v Speaker 3>that was that night, but when I woke up, I
<v Speaker 3>found it from my toes to the hair on my head,
<v Speaker 3>but that dream there. When I woke up, I was
<v Speaker 3>still caught up in a dream, but I knew I
<v Speaker 3>was awake, but I still had that feeling like it
<v Speaker 3>was in the center of my back, right with my spine,
<v Speaker 3>and I could feel it plumb through to my stomach
<v Speaker 3>on the front side. And I was asking her to
<v Speaker 3>have a red mark on my back and she said no,
<v Speaker 3>so but yeah, the dream was altra real. Uh, I don't.
<v Speaker 3>It was just a different dreams or dreams, you know,
<v Speaker 3>some are different, I guess, but this thing here was
<v Speaker 3>just like I was somewhere else, I know, you know,
<v Speaker 3>and ever dreams people's were like. That was literally like
<v Speaker 3>I was somewhere else. And then when I and I
<v Speaker 3>hardly ever sleep on my stomach, but I was flat
<v Speaker 3>on my stomach when that dream happened.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, God gives us messages through dreams. And my brother
<v Speaker 1>that was recently diagnosed with cancer, he kept saying that
<v Speaker 1>I kept having a dream that this happened, that I
<v Speaker 1>had cancer, and you know, he ended up having cancer,
<v Speaker 1>and you know, it's definitely strange. I actually had a
<v Speaker 1>dream one time I thought about my friend that I
<v Speaker 1>graduated with We went to school from kindergarten all the
<v Speaker 1>way through high school, and it was years after I graduated.
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen her. I haven't thought.
<v Speaker 2>About her at all.
<v Speaker 1>And just one night I had this really vivid dream
<v Speaker 1>of her and it lasted hours, like she was just
<v Speaker 1>standing there, and I woke up and I was like,
<v Speaker 1>what the heck? Why do I have this dream of Brittany,
<v Speaker 1>Like I haven't thought about her in years, And it
<v Speaker 1>was just weird because it was a vivid, real dream,
<v Speaker 1>Like it wasn't like your regular cartoonish dream where just
<v Speaker 1>random things are happening. But I don't know, I just
<v Speaker 1>kept thinking about it that morning and I opened up
<v Speaker 1>my phone, opened up Facebook, and I was scrolling through
<v Speaker 1>it and I saw a post from her that she
<v Speaker 1>had cancer, and like it just hit me, like whoa,
<v Speaker 1>Like this is weird, Like one of my good friends
<v Speaker 1>got diagnosed with cancer and I just had like this
<v Speaker 1>vivid dream of her for no reason. So I felt
<v Speaker 1>like that was a message from God. But yeah, I
<v Speaker 1>do feel like the supernatural will contact you in dreams
<v Speaker 1>to warn you of an event to come or something
<v Speaker 1>that's already happened.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean just like you said, you know how
<v Speaker 3>some dreams when you have them, they're so cartoonish and
<v Speaker 3>they bounced around. It's like, you know what in the
<v Speaker 3>world You're trying to make sense, but how can that happen?
<v Speaker 3>But no, this dream here was how do you explain
<v Speaker 3>when you're having a dream and you wake up? And
<v Speaker 3>what woke me up? Was this thing come up behind
<v Speaker 3>me and touched my back. And when it did, I
<v Speaker 3>feel it go plumb through me. But what was weird
<v Speaker 3>about it? When I felt that, I woke up immediately,
<v Speaker 3>But when it touched my back revealed everything and it
<v Speaker 3>was like it was it didn't like play a picture
<v Speaker 3>for me, but it was like I knew everything for
<v Speaker 3>me waking up, or me it touched me to me
<v Speaker 3>waking up, if that makes any sense. I knew the
<v Speaker 3>message I was supposed to have got was instantaneously. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>and it's just stuff like that.
<v Speaker 1>It was definitely a message. And I don't feel like
<v Speaker 1>it was a coincidence.
<v Speaker 3>No, And I've told multiple people, I mean, I never
<v Speaker 3>asked for none of this, And I'll be honest with you,
<v Speaker 3>and I'll be frankly audience with you. If if I
<v Speaker 3>had to do it, over the encounter I had. It
<v Speaker 3>was it was fifteen feet from me and my two uncles.
<v Speaker 3>Excuse me, I can't stop coughing. You can just see
<v Speaker 3>the silhouette have a fire in the lantern only shines
<v Speaker 3>out so far. But that and there's the other down
<v Speaker 3>I had when I was by myself. If I could
<v Speaker 3>take those back and it never happened, I'd do it
<v Speaker 3>in a heartbeat, because you don't never get over nothing
<v Speaker 3>like that. And you realize, you know, you've always and
<v Speaker 3>you know, when you're a kid, you know, and you
<v Speaker 3>hear monster stories or watch horror movies and stuff like that,
<v Speaker 3>all the stuff like this ain't real. Well, imagine being
<v Speaker 3>a seven year old kid and realizing that everybody has
<v Speaker 3>lied to you. But when you're twenty one, twenty two
<v Speaker 3>years old and you're staring one face to face it,
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I just it missed me up for
<v Speaker 3>my whole life. I'll never get over it.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I can only imagine. I'm sorry that that happened
<v Speaker 1>to you, and I can definitely relate. I've had encounters
<v Speaker 1>and it'll definitely change you. So you guys were camping,
<v Speaker 1>you were with your family, and it got dark what
<v Speaker 1>do you think triggered this thing coming down the mountain? Like,
<v Speaker 1>what exactly happened.
<v Speaker 3>Magil Buddy, I can't tell you because my dad there
<v Speaker 3>was so many of them. But back when I was young,
<v Speaker 3>this was in the mid seventies, the whole month of July,
<v Speaker 3>all my dad and my brothers. My dad was working,
<v Speaker 3>but he'd go out, but mother and uncles. I don't
<v Speaker 3>even know if they had jobs back at the Tabor,
<v Speaker 3>if they was just river booms or whatever. But we'd
<v Speaker 3>go way back in the middle of nowhere and down
<v Speaker 3>in on the river and stay the whole month of July.
<v Speaker 3>And we had been down there two weeks and uh,
<v Speaker 3>nothing had happened. And then and I never will forget
<v Speaker 3>talking to that. It was on a Friday night. Anyway,
<v Speaker 3>my dad had an old red scout down on an
<v Speaker 3>international scout and it was rough, mudholes everywhere. You had
<v Speaker 3>to climb soude of the mountain to come out, and
<v Speaker 3>it's just as bad coming back in. But they had
<v Speaker 3>left going to get him. They'd made an arrangement, and
<v Speaker 3>it was after dark and in the summertime, so you
<v Speaker 3>would have been between ten or eleven and they hadn't
<v Speaker 3>been gone for a little while, and me and my
<v Speaker 3>uncle Lanny, which was my dad's youngest step brother. I
<v Speaker 3>was just seven at the time, and he was probably
<v Speaker 3>just roughly I would say, anywhere from fourteen to sixteen
<v Speaker 3>year old. And we were goofing around and my uncle
<v Speaker 3>Jim was there and I heard him say, boys, shut up,
<v Speaker 3>I hear something. We wouldn't listen, and man, he jumped
<v Speaker 3>all over us. He said, boys, I said, shut up.
<v Speaker 3>And man, when he said that, you could hear it.
<v Speaker 3>You could tell it was a pie. It was on
<v Speaker 3>the ridge above us, on the side of the mountain,
<v Speaker 3>and the only way I can describe it, it was
<v Speaker 3>a It was a roar slash scream. It sounded you know,
<v Speaker 3>if you've heard him on TV or been to the zoo,
<v Speaker 3>how lying how powerful that is. But it was like that,
<v Speaker 3>but not the sound. And you could hear some racket
<v Speaker 3>between them. And then I could see him and he
<v Speaker 3>hadn't grabbed his gun yet, and so with you know,
<v Speaker 3>we're like walk that, and you know, down on the
<v Speaker 3>river you hear all kinds of stuff. And then it
<v Speaker 3>wasn't I can't remember time because I was just a kid,
<v Speaker 3>but it wasn't very shortly after that heard another one,
<v Speaker 3>but this time it come off running off side of
<v Speaker 3>the hill and you could hear it had let sound
<v Speaker 3>like an elephant running down the hill where somebody drove
<v Speaker 3>a truck off side of a cliff. And it's tearing
<v Speaker 3>up and why it's doing this. HiT's hollering and screaming
<v Speaker 3>as it's it just sounds like hell coming at you.
<v Speaker 3>And then it comes down about so far and just
<v Speaker 3>stops and it goes dead quiet. And by that time
<v Speaker 3>me and Uncle Lanney were over there by the fire
<v Speaker 3>and we positioned at ourself with my uncle between the
<v Speaker 3>fire and us. And my uncle's got that old mouser
<v Speaker 3>and he's holding it, and I can I can still
<v Speaker 3>remember him shaking sabad. It had a strap on it
<v Speaker 3>you can put over your shoulder, and I can still
<v Speaker 3>remember it. Or something was clinking, I don't know what
<v Speaker 3>it was. And then all of a sudden it started
<v Speaker 3>doing again. But before it started screaming, it was breaking limbs.
<v Speaker 3>I mean it never throwed anything, but it was I
<v Speaker 3>mean breaking big limbs, you know, like a tree's falling.
<v Speaker 3>And it got clopped, and all of a sudden, here
<v Speaker 3>it come this time hed it run right off into
<v Speaker 3>camp fifteen feet away from us. And you know how
<v Speaker 3>you can put a tarp up in your camp. This
<v Speaker 3>thing when it come down, I remember that. I remember
<v Speaker 3>it being off to where the tarpad had kind of
<v Speaker 3>covered not covered it, but you know, casting a shadow
<v Speaker 3>on You know how a lantern, a lot and a
<v Speaker 3>fire only shines out so far. But the river, if
<v Speaker 3>you're standing looking where we were, the river was to
<v Speaker 3>the left, the road was in the middle, and we
<v Speaker 3>were to the right, right beside the road. And it
<v Speaker 3>wasn't a road where people travel. That thing run down
<v Speaker 3>right next to the road, and there was a patch
<v Speaker 3>of trees. And when it run down there to then
<v Speaker 3>patch of patch of trees, Miguel, there was not just
<v Speaker 3>three or four of them moving, there were eight to
<v Speaker 3>ten trees. Hit looked like a tornado was in them.
<v Speaker 3>They wouldn't quivering or swaying. These things were looked like that.
<v Speaker 3>There was like a tornado sit in the middle of
<v Speaker 3>I mean they were moving eight, ten, twelve feet in
<v Speaker 3>all directions. It was the ungodless looking thing I've ever
<v Speaker 3>seen in alive. And the limbs falling out, fresh leaves
<v Speaker 3>falling off of it, and after that it goes deathly
<v Speaker 3>quiet again. And I, you know, and me and my
<v Speaker 3>uncle Lanny were feeding off my uncle Jim. If you've
<v Speaker 3>ever seen somebody terrified, you imagine being a kid looking
<v Speaker 3>at it. To you was a grown man, and my
<v Speaker 3>uncle Jim had probably just been in his early twenties,
<v Speaker 3>and me looking at him, and I I just couldn't
<v Speaker 3>believe that in that man's face. And then all of
<v Speaker 3>a sudden caught movement and that thing had stepped right
<v Speaker 3>up and you could see the silhouette of it. Could
<v Speaker 3>not make out no facial features, but that thing was
<v Speaker 3>just standing there. And all this had been going on,
<v Speaker 3>and it took about forty five minutes to an hour
<v Speaker 3>for them to get off the river back to the
<v Speaker 3>top of the mountain to pick up my dad, and
<v Speaker 3>then that long to come back. And they had been gone.
<v Speaker 3>We me and my uncles had talked through the years, God,
<v Speaker 3>every time was around each other, we talked about what happened,
<v Speaker 3>and my uncle Jim said he estimated they had been
<v Speaker 3>gone no more than thirty or forty five minutes. Well,
<v Speaker 3>they didn't even have time to get to the top
<v Speaker 3>of the hill and back down. So all this took
<v Speaker 3>on for at least an hour of this going on,
<v Speaker 3>and when that thing come forward to show itself, there
<v Speaker 3>was another one to the left. But let me back
<v Speaker 3>up before that, all that was going on. When that
<v Speaker 3>thing come running off the second time, Uncle was hauling.
<v Speaker 3>We's climbing his back. He's haulering. Boys, get off, I'm
<v Speaker 3>going to have to shoot. Go in the tent. I
<v Speaker 3>remember running into the tent watching him just go, you know,
<v Speaker 3>scan from about ten o'clock to two o'clock with that rifle,
<v Speaker 3>you know, because he was just trying to follow the
<v Speaker 3>sound of me and Uncle Lannie's on her hands and
<v Speaker 3>Tee's looking out of the tent, and we hear something
<v Speaker 3>coming up behind us and he put his hand on
<v Speaker 3>Uncle Lanney put his hand on my back. He said,
<v Speaker 3>don't move, and you could hear it was by a pedal.
<v Speaker 3>Whatever this was sneaking in. But this thing that was
<v Speaker 3>over closest to us by the road was keeping my
<v Speaker 3>uncle occupied while this was coming up. He never heard
<v Speaker 3>what we heard in the tent. And finally when it
<v Speaker 3>snapped on a twig, pretty i'd say, no more than
<v Speaker 3>ten fifteen feet behind us in the tent, we come
<v Speaker 3>ripping out there about knock him down. Man, he's maddering
<v Speaker 3>hell at that point because he's scared to death. You know.
<v Speaker 3>We're trying to climbing and me he can't shoot. And
<v Speaker 3>about that time, the one behind the tent screamed and
<v Speaker 3>he swung that gun around and then it was gone.
<v Speaker 3>And then the other one beside the road. And I'm talking,
<v Speaker 3>if you take it, put us in the center and
<v Speaker 3>you go ten o'clock to two o'clock. Of these distances
<v Speaker 3>between like going to the left and going to the right,
<v Speaker 3>are no more than twenty five yards away. And when
<v Speaker 3>these things were screaming in the hauling, I remember covering
<v Speaker 3>my ears as a kid, and I was, you know,
<v Speaker 3>just thinking it was a it was a true mountain nightmare.
<v Speaker 3>I'd left that part out. But when he turned back
<v Speaker 3>around and focused to the one, that's what it was.
<v Speaker 3>The one that come into sight was the one that
<v Speaker 3>after the second one acknowledged its presence when it screamed.
<v Speaker 3>And they went back and forth or three times, and
<v Speaker 3>then the one come forwards, how it was, and my
<v Speaker 3>uncle dropped his gun when that thing stepped forward, and
<v Speaker 3>you could hear thinking back on it and stuff we
<v Speaker 3>talked about. You could hear the other one kind of
<v Speaker 3>trying to position itself around toward that one. But that
<v Speaker 3>old scalp my dad had was really loud. And about
<v Speaker 3>that time the lights hit the treetops. We were kind
<v Speaker 3>of in a little bitty saddle and there was a
<v Speaker 3>no I have sixty seventy yards behind us. It kind
<v Speaker 3>of topped off and leveled off on the river bank
<v Speaker 3>right by right by us, and that saying when them
<v Speaker 3>lights hit that, that's when the thing in front of us,
<v Speaker 3>next to the road, it tore off across the road.
<v Speaker 3>My uncle and all of them seen it. They seen
<v Speaker 3>it cross the road and it hit the river. And
<v Speaker 3>when it hit the river, it sat like a car
<v Speaker 3>fell out of the sky. And the one that had
<v Speaker 3>worked its way around towards the first one that come off,
<v Speaker 3>excuse me, it took off running up. You could hear
<v Speaker 3>it running up like parallel on the road, running up there,
<v Speaker 3>just breaking crap all the pieces and man, my dad,
<v Speaker 3>now pull in there. God, I'm screaming and crying. We
<v Speaker 3>all three were, I mean, and I remember still this day,
<v Speaker 3>them flashlights them looking around. You can see where the
<v Speaker 3>leaves had been shook off those trees and small branches.
<v Speaker 3>They went over next to the river and there was
<v Speaker 3>an actual track where that thing had stepped at the
<v Speaker 3>edge of the river bank had slid down only one track
<v Speaker 3>and it was huge, but it was a step where
<v Speaker 3>it slid down to the river and over to the
<v Speaker 3>left of that probably twenty yards was I think two
<v Speaker 3>or three canoes tied up to the bank. So when
<v Speaker 3>they had topped the hill and spook it, but we
<v Speaker 3>never heard the scout coming was what we could never
<v Speaker 3>figure out the whole time, because when they left, you
<v Speaker 3>could hear them go for I don't know, ten minutes,
<v Speaker 3>five ten minutes, you could just hear it, you know,
<v Speaker 3>echoing up the river valley. But no, that that's when
<v Speaker 3>it all started for me.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's terrifying. I mean I've had a lot of
<v Speaker 1>encounters and experiences, but you you've had some really and
<v Speaker 1>tons encounters, and I can only imagine what you went
<v Speaker 1>through and how you guys felt, like, did you guys
<v Speaker 1>stay the night after that or did you guys leave?
<v Speaker 3>No, we stayed, dang, yeah, and stayed for the following
<v Speaker 3>two more weeks. And and see, this was what was
<v Speaker 3>crazy finished staying. Like I said, we'd been there or
<v Speaker 3>two weeks and ended up staying two weeks. I had
<v Speaker 3>to come out because I got in the bad patch
<v Speaker 3>of pulls and I mean got up my eyes, my mouth,
<v Speaker 3>and I went back down and stayed. But the reason is,
<v Speaker 3>and didn't know this. Two years later my dad and
<v Speaker 3>then were used to it. And my uncle's I mean, Miguel,
<v Speaker 3>I mean I need to I could write a book
<v Speaker 3>of people, don't. I mean, you don't even know all
<v Speaker 3>the stuff that happened to my dad real briefly, it
<v Speaker 3>was my dad and his neighbors and three or four
<v Speaker 3>of the boys, and he had two boys now, went
<v Speaker 3>out on the river coon hunting started storming, and they
<v Speaker 3>found no abandoned house. Something got in a fight with
<v Speaker 3>the coon dogs. The coon dogs hit the river going
<v Speaker 3>back across toward where they lived, and whatever it was
<v Speaker 3>was roaring and screaming, and there was no bear in
<v Speaker 3>there at that time. And this old mining house, my
<v Speaker 3>dad and his two or three brothers, and the neighbor
<v Speaker 3>had his two boys there, and my grandpa took them
<v Speaker 3>all upstairs and they said at the top of the steps,
<v Speaker 3>and Dad said that he can remember whatever it was
<v Speaker 3>would come inside the house. It never would vocalize inside
<v Speaker 3>the house, but it was tearing it all to hell
<v Speaker 3>and would leave. And it done it all night long,
<v Speaker 3>and they stayed there till daybreak. And he can remember
<v Speaker 3>my dad and that guy talking them old timers, and
<v Speaker 3>the only thing they had was a car by lot
<v Speaker 3>for a mining light, you know what I'm talking about,
<v Speaker 3>And god, dim things ain't much brighter than a candle.
<v Speaker 3>But he could hear, he said, you know, for dad
<v Speaker 3>passed away. They talked about it so many times that
<v Speaker 3>they could hear the over conversation and them talking of
<v Speaker 3>whatever it is, we can't let it get to the boys.
<v Speaker 3>And both of them sit on top of them steps
<v Speaker 3>all night long till the daybreak, and it's just it's
<v Speaker 3>just that and too many more. I mean, hell, I
<v Speaker 3>could tell this stuff for two days straight.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it sounds like you have a lot of experiences,
<v Speaker 1>and we definitely have to get back together and do
<v Speaker 1>more research, hang out and talk about everything else that
<v Speaker 1>you've experienced.
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, that's spooky.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I can't imagine what what you guys went through,
<v Speaker 1>especially your family, and you know, this was normal to
<v Speaker 1>them and eventually it became normal to you.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, yeah. What was crazy is I heard some
<v Speaker 3>stories until I started coming hour would open up about
<v Speaker 3>it and maybe like, oh yeah, well yeah, this has
<v Speaker 3>happened to us, and that you know, they just kip
<v Speaker 3>it to their stiff. You learned how to do that,
<v Speaker 3>and that's what I'm saying. Growing up, I just thought
<v Speaker 3>this was normal because I listened to my dad and
<v Speaker 3>allfice brothers till their encounters, and I thought, hell, everybody
<v Speaker 3>lived a life like this. I don't know, Like I said,
<v Speaker 3>I didn't ask for none of it.
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's like a generational type of thing, like you
<v Speaker 1>hear about generation and curses. But like, I don't know,
<v Speaker 1>it seems like it's in your blood man, Like these
<v Speaker 1>things are attracted to you and your family, and obviously
<v Speaker 1>they came back because you've had so much happen. We
<v Speaker 1>went down there and did research and the activity continued.
<v Speaker 1>You also told me about this encounter, this road crossing.
<v Speaker 1>Can you tell me more about that?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, uh, all right, this is right. This is right
<v Speaker 3>after the vocalizations. The vocalizations I sent you would have
<v Speaker 3>been that had have probably been right around the first
<v Speaker 3>week or two of January, because I have my surgery
<v Speaker 3>January the twenty nine, so it was a week before
<v Speaker 3>I had my surgery, just a couple of weeks after
<v Speaker 3>I had all these vocalizations. I'm driving a not four
<v Speaker 3>miles south of me. I'm going down through there and
<v Speaker 3>there's a vehicle coming at me. I'm in the vehicle,
<v Speaker 3>are no more than two hundred yards apart, and there's
<v Speaker 3>a long sweeping turn. But coming from the right side
<v Speaker 3>of the road up out of a ravine was a
<v Speaker 3>huge black, just blur that went across the road, and
<v Speaker 3>it was closer to the truck that was coming toward
<v Speaker 3>me than I was it. But when it crossed the road,
<v Speaker 3>we were probably a hundred to one hundred and fifty
<v Speaker 3>yards apart. But this thing was at the time all
<v Speaker 3>like I told you earlier, I didn't know. You know,
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if everybody does it, but sometimes you'll
<v Speaker 3>have those floaters in your eyes when you first wake
<v Speaker 3>up or whatever. But when it happens so fast, that's
<v Speaker 3>what I thought, And I hit my brakes in the
<v Speaker 3>truck as I passed it. He's on the brakes, and
<v Speaker 3>then I'm realizing my my brain's catching up with my thoughts.
<v Speaker 3>No this thing. I could see it running, but it
<v Speaker 3>was huge, and the speed of it was I don't know, man,
<v Speaker 3>it was paranormal fast. If anybody's ever seen those videos
<v Speaker 3>of where people catch these ghosts and stuff, how fast
<v Speaker 3>they move, that's this thing was like that, and even
<v Speaker 3>faster because it crossed the of the pull off lane,
<v Speaker 3>my lane, and then a fast lane and a slow
<v Speaker 3>lane going north, and then the pullover lane and the
<v Speaker 3>guardrail and that thing come across matter of maybe a
<v Speaker 3>second and a half. I know it wasn't two seconds,
<v Speaker 3>but where it had went across the guardrail, that's a
<v Speaker 3>cliff line. So where did this thing go? But I
<v Speaker 3>know I wouldn't the only want to see it, because
<v Speaker 3>the other truck hit their brakes too, and I remember
<v Speaker 3>pulling over and like hitting the rouble strips. They was
<v Speaker 3>on their breaks and then they let off, So I
<v Speaker 3>don't know what the hell that was. It was upright,
<v Speaker 3>and it was it was just like a huge shadow
<v Speaker 3>person top. Like I said, that truck was closer to
<v Speaker 3>it than I was. I was probably eighty yards from it,
<v Speaker 3>and he would have probably been seventy yards from it.
<v Speaker 3>Just a little bit closer than me, maybe something like that.
<v Speaker 3>But it happened so fast, it just it made you
<v Speaker 3>wonder if you've really seen something. But I know what
<v Speaker 3>it was. I just I couldn't get my brain to
<v Speaker 3>wrap around it.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, So they probably got a really good look at it.
<v Speaker 1>And it seems like this thing crossed the highway intentionally,
<v Speaker 1>like it wanted you to see it.
<v Speaker 3>Well, you said it, not me, And that's exactly what
<v Speaker 3>I thought, Miguel. When I went down through, I thought,
<v Speaker 3>hell of all the people that travel this road going
<v Speaker 3>north and Southwark, and this thing done it to me.
<v Speaker 3>And just you know, a week a little over a
<v Speaker 3>week later than from all the vocalizations I mean, and
<v Speaker 3>then after I have my surgery and stuff, I go
<v Speaker 3>call blasting and that's when all the orbs and stuff happened.
<v Speaker 3>So they're still here, and I don't understand. I know
<v Speaker 3>they're here, and where your other guest had his encounter.
<v Speaker 3>Oh that's just well, I really don't. I can be
<v Speaker 3>there very very shortly, is all I'm going to say.
<v Speaker 1>As the crow flies and man, yeah, it's definitely strange
<v Speaker 1>because you were pouring out corn and that trail camera
<v Speaker 1>caught your reaction when you heard those vocalizations, and you
<v Speaker 1>even spoke to the neighbors nearby, asked them if they
<v Speaker 1>heard anything strange, What do they tell you?
<v Speaker 3>Yes? I actually I drove around the lake and after
<v Speaker 3>and then when when that happened, This was a week
<v Speaker 3>after they would They had come a good snow and
<v Speaker 3>they were six or eight inches on and it took
<v Speaker 3>it takes me forty five minutes to drive around. And
<v Speaker 3>we're driving around through there, and I see this man
<v Speaker 3>and woman and two young teenage children, a boy and
<v Speaker 3>a girl, and so I pulled up talking to him
<v Speaker 3>and stuff, and I said, I know you all gonna
<v Speaker 3>think I'm crazy, I said, but I'm going to ask
<v Speaker 3>you a question. I said, a little over a week ago.
<v Speaker 3>I gave him the date and time of when it happened.
<v Speaker 3>I said, did you all hear anything screaming over here?
<v Speaker 3>I said, because I've got it on audio. And what
<v Speaker 3>was so funny about it wasn't really funny, but it
<v Speaker 3>was as soon as I said that, and it left
<v Speaker 3>my lips. Those kids and the parents were looking at
<v Speaker 3>each other, back and forth, back and forth. And then
<v Speaker 3>the guy said, well, yeah, actually my boy and girl
<v Speaker 3>was playing outside in the snow, and this was going
<v Speaker 3>and they come in and running inside telling her mom,
<v Speaker 3>and they all four heard it. They said, well, what
<v Speaker 3>was that? And and so I just I just said, well,
<v Speaker 3>I know what it was. I said, you all don't
<v Speaker 3>think I'm crazy. And so I told him it's bigfoot.
<v Speaker 3>I said, I've heard these things before. I said, people
<v Speaker 3>think you're crazy when you talk about this stuff. So
<v Speaker 3>I kept talking, going on and on, and then right
<v Speaker 3>before we left, the guy said, you know what, He
<v Speaker 3>said that that kind of makes sense because right across
<v Speaker 3>from me as a boat ramp on the other side
<v Speaker 3>of the laye. He said, just last year, and he
<v Speaker 3>said the past few summers. He said, we've lived around
<v Speaker 3>here four or five years. He said, every summer we'll
<v Speaker 3>go down or night fish. He said that there's vocalizations
<v Speaker 3>rocks being thrown into water, and he said it runs
<v Speaker 3>a mouth there at nighttime. He said he won't go back,
<v Speaker 3>but he said last summer. And after it happened, he
<v Speaker 3>waited till right in the middle of the day, and
<v Speaker 3>he walked around this little footpath. He said, probably about
<v Speaker 3>a half a mile or so, maybe a little further around,
<v Speaker 3>and he said that he walked up on what I
<v Speaker 3>call a kill sot. He said, there was bones everywhere,
<v Speaker 3>all in one spot. And it wasn't cattle or nothing
<v Speaker 3>like Eddie said, you could tell it was deer. What
<v Speaker 3>he has to may to be either dogs or coyodies
<v Speaker 3>and all that he said that I mean, he said
<v Speaker 3>it was just bones everywhere. And I told him, I said,
<v Speaker 3>that's a kill sot. You know, bear don't draw their
<v Speaker 3>same prey or cowdies down to the same spot every time.
<v Speaker 3>And it's been documented that these bigfoot sasquatch supposedly do this.
<v Speaker 3>That's what people find all the time, just bones in
<v Speaker 3>one area. And then that was in January, right before
<v Speaker 3>having surgery. So when I go up here call blasting
<v Speaker 3>oh month and a half ago, that's that's exactly where
<v Speaker 3>I got my vocals from. Because when I went up here,
<v Speaker 3>I had the guys story in the back of my head,
<v Speaker 3>and I know the way the land lays around here,
<v Speaker 3>and that's exactly where I was pointing in blasting to
<v Speaker 3>and that's exactly where I got the call responses from.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's wild.
<v Speaker 1>And this area where you heard the vocalizations is this
<v Speaker 1>close to where you and your family were camping years
<v Speaker 1>ago when this thing came down the mountain.
<v Speaker 3>No.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you've had activity all throughout like Kentucky, like
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, the Daniel Boon National Forest and just a
<v Speaker 1>lot of experiences and encounters when you're camping or white
<v Speaker 1>tail hunting. It just seems like they're attracted to you,
<v Speaker 1>like you get in there, you hunt or whatever, like
<v Speaker 1>when you get engaged with the outdoors, like they'll come out,
<v Speaker 1>not every time, but throughout your life.
<v Speaker 3>No, and that's what you know. People think, oh, well, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>he's lying it And it don't happen all the time.
<v Speaker 3>It's random and you never know. You never know when
<v Speaker 3>it's going to happen. But I know I put one
<v Speaker 3>thing together and uh ever, every time ever, and I
<v Speaker 3>can think about it, every single time that I have
<v Speaker 3>had an encounter, there was a water source no less
<v Speaker 3>than a half a mile away ever one.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so they stick close to the water. It seems
<v Speaker 1>like they're physical creatures they're out there, but also there's
<v Speaker 1>something supernatural behind them as far as like tagging you.
<v Speaker 1>You know you're marked. They follow you around. You see
<v Speaker 1>these orbs, strange things that are taking place either inside
<v Speaker 1>your house or I don't.
<v Speaker 2>Know, just I don't know.
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's all connected, but at the same time,
<v Speaker 1>I don't really know. But I've seen similar things myself,
<v Speaker 1>so I feel like it is. But you know, I
<v Speaker 1>can't convince people of that until they see it themselves,
<v Speaker 1>and they'll be like, dang, Jimmy and Miguel were right.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I'm not going to lie to you, Mgel.
<v Speaker 3>When I heard people's encounters or stories or whatever you
<v Speaker 3>want to call them about orbs and Bigfoot, and I've
<v Speaker 3>heard some outlandish ones and I call them b is
<v Speaker 3>from the get go. But then you could to me,
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, if you've really had an encounter, you
<v Speaker 3>could tell when people are telling the truth. But I
<v Speaker 3>thought bigfoot and an orb, yell, okay whatever, No, sir, buddy,
<v Speaker 3>I got proved wrong. If anybody's got a story, you know,
<v Speaker 3>I like listening to just to just to see because
<v Speaker 3>there's more than we realized. Because I got proved wrong
<v Speaker 3>about the sin and an orb and then one of
<v Speaker 3>these things afterwards. Because I can, I mean I can.
<v Speaker 3>I can tee the color of its hair. I've never
<v Speaker 3>seen its face. It was a side of profile of
<v Speaker 3>it moving away and it wasn't as big as the
<v Speaker 3>first or second one I had, but it was still
<v Speaker 3>just as big. But the the hair wasn't red, but
<v Speaker 3>it was a brownish red tint. Not liking the rangu
<v Speaker 3>and tain color, but close, but I mean just huge.
<v Speaker 3>I'm not And you know when people talk about having
<v Speaker 3>these encounters, they try to estimate the weigh that three
<v Speaker 3>or four hundred pounds. Hell know, what I seen, buddy,
<v Speaker 3>was eight hundred to one thousand pounds. Either they didn't
<v Speaker 3>see something like I seen, or they seen a juvenile
<v Speaker 3>because like this one after the ORB, I mean, it
<v Speaker 3>was wasn't as big, but it's still been anywhere from
<v Speaker 3>six seven pound.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that thing is a beast. Yeah that's terrifying. And
<v Speaker 1>I can definitely relate. After I had my encounters, I
<v Speaker 1>felt like I could sniff people out, like, oh, this
<v Speaker 1>person's full of it, or this person's telling the truth
<v Speaker 1>because it's an intense encounter and he's describing details. But
<v Speaker 1>I'll be honest, like when I used to hear people
<v Speaker 1>talk about the cloaking, and this is even after I
<v Speaker 1>had my encounters, I'd be like, yeah, right, b us,
<v Speaker 1>and one big thing that would turn me off about
<v Speaker 1>that was like the super super blurry photos that people
<v Speaker 1>would show the paradolia and they'd like circle red. I'm like,
<v Speaker 1>I don't know about that. But then I had experiences
<v Speaker 1>out in the woods where something invisible, like a big
<v Speaker 1>bipedal invisible being is walking in the woods. It just
<v Speaker 1>sound it just sounded like a giant lumberjack, like someone
<v Speaker 1>who's like seven or eight foot tall walking on two feet.
<v Speaker 1>And I mean this is in the middle of the day,
<v Speaker 1>during the wintertime, and you could hear paralleling us. And
<v Speaker 1>this happened with several differ from people at several different areas,
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, well, I guess there is truth behind
<v Speaker 1>the cloaking and I got proved wrong.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, uh yeah, And I'm telling you, I don't know
<v Speaker 3>about you, but there's nothing there's no such animal down
<v Speaker 3>here that can do that and it be just a
<v Speaker 3>normal flesh and blood. There's more to these things.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you had an experience at the land between the
<v Speaker 1>Lakes when you were bow hunting with a friend, and
<v Speaker 1>you said you experienced the same thing, like something by
<v Speaker 1>petal was walking through the woods. You could even see
<v Speaker 1>the leaves being flipped up into the air as it
<v Speaker 1>was walking.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah that as soon as you said that, that made
<v Speaker 3>my hair stand on my arms. And I was by myself,
<v Speaker 3>and I mean that that was messed up, buddy, I
<v Speaker 3>mean that was that that that was messed up. I
<v Speaker 3>could tell when it left the road. There was no
<v Speaker 3>road to come up there, and there's no settlement that
<v Speaker 3>had been out there, and I kept looking for somebody.
<v Speaker 3>I thought somebody's walking up on me. And you know, hell,
<v Speaker 3>three days in row and then I finally told one
<v Speaker 3>of my buddies to go back, and he's like, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>I ain't killed nobody anyway, I'll go with you. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>he liked to lost his mind. Yeah. Uh, I think
<v Speaker 3>we covered that on the first interview, didn't we.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, And man, it's just a strange thing. There's a
<v Speaker 1>lot of things that are attached to the Sasquatch, and
<v Speaker 1>it's not just this unknown primate that lives out in
<v Speaker 1>the woods, like you're dealing with a whole other animal,
<v Speaker 1>a whole other being, a hominid like this is definitely supernatural,
<v Speaker 1>and I do I feel like the time is ending
<v Speaker 1>or building up towards something. Yeah, people have been seeing
<v Speaker 1>this stuff before, the Native Americans, but like something huge
<v Speaker 1>is building up, like this is not normal, and I
<v Speaker 1>do feel like these things are, if not the neph One,
<v Speaker 1>like something that was created in those days.
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know.
<v Speaker 1>Somebody on a podcast mentioned it the other day, like
<v Speaker 1>when you experience this activity, it just feels ancient, like
<v Speaker 1>there's something ancient about it. And I agree, like there's
<v Speaker 1>definitely like this ancient feeling when you're experiencing this activity
<v Speaker 1>or when you see them face to face, it's like
<v Speaker 1>this is way out of the norm.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Like I said, man, I can't wrap my head
<v Speaker 3>around it. I didn't ask to see it, and I've
<v Speaker 3>learned how to deal with it. And I swear every
<v Speaker 3>time I want to dabble a little bit, it just
<v Speaker 3>pops up right in my face and I'm like, okay, Bud,
<v Speaker 3>you need to back off, you know what I mean?
<v Speaker 3>And uh, yeah, I can't explain it. I'd like to
<v Speaker 3>take you just a physical world.
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, for sure.
<v Speaker 1>It seems like there's other dimensions here, portals, gateways, whatever
<v Speaker 1>you want to call it. I would like to take
<v Speaker 1>you out to the killing fields here in Missouri and
<v Speaker 1>camp out and see if we experience something. Because you
<v Speaker 1>got sasquatch in your blood, just like me.
<v Speaker 2>So I don't I know.
<v Speaker 1>I feel like if we were together something would happen.
<v Speaker 3>Well, I promise you something will pop off because of
<v Speaker 3>either when she was time she was with me, or
<v Speaker 3>my nephews. The same nephew. Now, they've been several encounters.
<v Speaker 3>He hasn't seen one or nothing like that, but they've
<v Speaker 3>been a bunch of crazy stuff goes on. It scares
<v Speaker 3>him to death. And he's in his late twenties and
<v Speaker 3>he just you know, has heard everybody in my family,
<v Speaker 3>whether it be big foot or paranormal. You know. They
<v Speaker 3>even by oldest daughter. She's terrified. I try to get
<v Speaker 3>her to go, but she says, they ain't no way,
<v Speaker 3>I'm going with you, dad, But it I don't know, man.
<v Speaker 1>I hear a lot of people say I just want
<v Speaker 1>to see one so bad. Like then they get out
<v Speaker 1>there and they look. But I'm thinking, in the back
<v Speaker 1>of my mind, I'm like, I don't know if you
<v Speaker 1>want that. There's a lot of weight on my shoulders,
<v Speaker 1>and I know you've carried this weight as well, and
<v Speaker 1>it's just like it's not something that you want.
<v Speaker 2>To deal with.
<v Speaker 3>No, the not the two that I had face to face.
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, if I could have seen one going through
<v Speaker 3>the woods or strolling across the field or running across
<v Speaker 3>Uh yeah. The second one. When I seen it, it
<v Speaker 3>come out from behind the tree and looked at me
<v Speaker 3>so confused. It's on our first thing video we've done.
<v Speaker 3>It was so confused. And I was uphill. It's off
<v Speaker 3>the back side of the mountain. I was uphill, like
<v Speaker 3>on a two to one slope, only thirty yards away.
<v Speaker 3>And I mean I could see the wrinkles this thing's face.
<v Speaker 3>I could see everything, but I could not take my
<v Speaker 3>eyes off of it. But after a thing had reached
<v Speaker 3>to the ground with this left han, it took never
<v Speaker 3>took its right off the thing. But when it's stood
<v Speaker 3>back up, excuse me, when it's face melted. And when
<v Speaker 3>I mean melted, I mean when from a confused look
<v Speaker 3>to where just all the life out of it's face
<v Speaker 3>just dropped. And then when it started morphing back and
<v Speaker 3>one of me. Morphing is just changing shape, and it
<v Speaker 3>starts showing its teeth, and I could see its chest
<v Speaker 3>going in and out, and it was working itself up.
<v Speaker 3>I mean that that messed with me for years. Buddy,
<v Speaker 3>the knightmares did. And then I took off trying to
<v Speaker 3>dig my way to the top of the hill, in
<v Speaker 3>which I did come off the backside, and this thing
<v Speaker 3>come after me. Hell man, you don't want to encounter
<v Speaker 3>like that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, that is terrifying. I've had them parallel me,
<v Speaker 1>but I haven't had an intense encounter like that. I
<v Speaker 1>had one charge through the woods at me, but I
<v Speaker 1>was standing on my back porch of my house. I
<v Speaker 1>did a big foot call in this thing tore through
<v Speaker 1>the woods.
<v Speaker 2>I mean it was.
<v Speaker 1>Snapping treesches, and it was zigzagging its way towards me,
<v Speaker 1>and it sounded like a bulldozer was moving through the woods.
<v Speaker 1>And it just stopped right at the edge of the
<v Speaker 1>woodline and everything got quiet.
<v Speaker 2>I was like, holy shit, what is that?
<v Speaker 3>Yep, you know when I'm talking about Then, until somebody's
<v Speaker 3>heard one of these run through the woods, you can't
<v Speaker 3>explain it. Oh yeah, mine tries to rationalize, you know,
<v Speaker 3>it was some kind of animal. But you know, and
<v Speaker 3>if you've hunted in the woods a lot like I have,
<v Speaker 3>you have you know what things sound like. Even deer runoff,
<v Speaker 3>even when bears run off, I know what they sound like,
<v Speaker 3>but when you hear one of these running you you
<v Speaker 3>can't figure it out. You know, there's something something just
<v Speaker 3>not right.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, And I was happy to see you get back
<v Speaker 1>out in the woods when you show me that photo.
<v Speaker 2>Of that big buck.
<v Speaker 1>I was like, all right, Jimmy's back out there. So
<v Speaker 1>that's good. You haven't been scared to go back in
<v Speaker 1>the woods. Some people never step foot in the woods ever. Again,
<v Speaker 1>they never go hunting or camping, and they just can't
<v Speaker 1>do it. And I'm sure it does mess with you.
<v Speaker 1>It messes with me too, like you almost lose like
<v Speaker 1>the passion to hunt.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right McGill. And like I said,
<v Speaker 3>I stayed away from those areas for fifteen twenty years,
<v Speaker 3>and I went back up there and got more what
<v Speaker 3>I bargained for. Scott Carpenter that it was from just
<v Speaker 3>right down Tennessee there close to where working Maryville. He
<v Speaker 3>was a great guy and he he you know, died
<v Speaker 3>of a brain tumor a brain aneurysm or something. I
<v Speaker 3>can't remember, but he said they were from the Nephlemon
<v Speaker 3>and they're real.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>They It seems like every day that they keep figuring
<v Speaker 3>out that stuff that was in the Bible Israel. Well,
<v Speaker 3>if if that's the truth, then why can't they comprehend
<v Speaker 3>You know that these things are real. It talks about them.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And that's how it was when Jesus was alive.
<v Speaker 1>He would do all these miracles right in front of people,
<v Speaker 1>and even high status people, and it's just like they
<v Speaker 1>couldn't accept it, they couldn't believe it. And that's what's
<v Speaker 1>happening today with these bigfoot encounters. People are seeing these things,
<v Speaker 1>they're telling others and they're just being dismissed, like, oh,
<v Speaker 1>it must be a bear or you're seeing things. These
<v Speaker 1>things don't exist, and it's like the build up is
<v Speaker 1>happening and people are either looking the other way or
<v Speaker 1>they're embracing it.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly what I've what I've encountered and witnessed and
<v Speaker 3>stuff is has been horrifying. But they would They would
<v Speaker 3>be one thing that would keep me out of the
<v Speaker 3>woods for the rest of my life. And that would
<v Speaker 3>be if I ever had a dog man experience of
<v Speaker 3>that would be the end of it for me. I
<v Speaker 3>couldn't deal with that.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I told myself, I see one, I'm done.
<v Speaker 3>Uh Yeah, And I know we can sit and laugh
<v Speaker 3>about it. And and I mean I've heard several people
<v Speaker 3>Martin Groves and was one of the most terrill that
<v Speaker 3>was on the uh the confessionals with Tony Merkel. Now
<v Speaker 3>that one right there was in the Daniel Boone not
<v Speaker 3>no more than an hour's drive from here, now that
<v Speaker 3>right there? Uh and that yeah, let's see, Kyle was
<v Speaker 3>that boy's name.
<v Speaker 2>They are out.
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if I have, but I feel like
<v Speaker 1>when we did that investigation in the Daniel Boone National Forest,
<v Speaker 1>the vocalizations that we heard were definitely encrypted. But like
<v Speaker 1>the first thought that came into my mind was canine.
<v Speaker 1>Like it sounded canine.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah it uh, I mean because I know you were uh,
<v Speaker 3>we were being parallel al on both sides. And I
<v Speaker 3>don't know how far we went down in there, but
<v Speaker 3>it was a long ways and uh, and somehow we
<v Speaker 3>got turned around and I don't know, I still ain't
<v Speaker 3>figured that out. But when you made that call, I mean,
<v Speaker 3>it was immediately a response. And then all the way
<v Speaker 3>back we were hearing responses and people and I know
<v Speaker 3>you have you can distinguish the real owl from when
<v Speaker 3>something's trying to imitate an owl m and that was
<v Speaker 3>the same way, and that not behind the house here
<v Speaker 3>when there was six of them. And you know something,
<v Speaker 3>I just put two and two together. I counted six times,
<v Speaker 3>and them things hollering down that ridge And that's how
<v Speaker 3>many orbs I seen out here across the road.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is strange. Those vocalizations too that we heard.
<v Speaker 1>They came from the river and it was the same
<v Speaker 1>way later on you heard these things by the river
<v Speaker 1>when you when you were hearing these vocalizations, I remember
<v Speaker 1>you telling me that what I got on video does
<v Speaker 1>not do it justice, like it was completely different in person.
<v Speaker 1>What do you think they were saying? What were they communicating?
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, but I tell you what in still
<v Speaker 3>I can, I can go back when we was hearing them,
<v Speaker 3>but I swear, Miguel, it sounded like it was just
<v Speaker 3>a part out of Jurassic Park. They were two tone
<v Speaker 3>pitches that thing would scream out, but it was dual
<v Speaker 3>tone pitches you could hear. You could hear one tone
<v Speaker 3>start out, then you could hear the second. When come
<v Speaker 3>in that way, and what was on the recording, it
<v Speaker 3>was not what we heard in real life. And I
<v Speaker 3>couldn't figure that out. It was a dual tone pitch
<v Speaker 3>started out as one, and I mean it just it
<v Speaker 3>sounded like something out of the movie. And I mean
<v Speaker 3>it just up that canyon at River.
<v Speaker 1>Canyon, m Yeah, and it's sounding prehistoric. Like I remember
<v Speaker 1>when we were at the Airbnb cabin, Joe or the
<v Speaker 1>Ozark carry man, he was showing you or telling you
<v Speaker 1>about the Saint Louis County, Minnesota cause and you ended
<v Speaker 1>up recording something that is very similar. And this thing
<v Speaker 1>sounds like an elephant, a lion, and a freaking dinosaur
<v Speaker 1>all in one.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Like I said, I've got the auditor two videos
<v Speaker 3>of it to prove it, and my trill camera took
<v Speaker 3>the exact time stamp. As soon as the bag of
<v Speaker 3>corn hits the ground, I hear something in front of
<v Speaker 3>me and it's got me. I've got I've got my knife,
<v Speaker 3>pulled my knife out in front of me. But I
<v Speaker 3>raised my head up and I'm looking straight ahead, and
<v Speaker 3>I thought that was weird. I mean it was like
<v Speaker 3>they was they was saying, here's the food or I
<v Speaker 3>don't know, I don't know. Yeah, I mean it's definitely
<v Speaker 3>strange pictures and video.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean it's strange. As soon as you start
<v Speaker 1>pouring out corn right there at the trail camera where
<v Speaker 1>you've gotten the orbs, the shadow person or possibly a sasquatch,
<v Speaker 1>they vocalized. I feel like they were directing it towards you,
<v Speaker 1>or communicating with one on one another, like let's triangulate
<v Speaker 1>around this guy. I don't know, like something was getting
<v Speaker 1>ready to happen. I guarantee you if you camp there
<v Speaker 1>that night, they would have came in.
<v Speaker 3>Uh yeah, I don't know about that. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Well the cool thing is, well, I don't know if
<v Speaker 1>it's cool, but you got access to where you heard
<v Speaker 1>those vocalizations, so you can go in there and check
<v Speaker 1>it out. It's definitely strange that they found a kill site,
<v Speaker 1>and I interviewed a guy from Colorado who found the
<v Speaker 1>same thing. I mean there was like elk and ducks
<v Speaker 1>and all kinds of like skeletons left behind, and it
<v Speaker 1>was a huge till site.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and Miguel, you could tell he was hesitant of
<v Speaker 3>saying anything until I said, well I know what they are.
<v Speaker 3>I said, You're gonna think I'm crazy, I said, but
<v Speaker 3>I don't care. I've seen him, I've heard him. I said,
<v Speaker 3>it's bigfoot sasquatch. You you could see his brain was
<v Speaker 3>like putting two and two together. Kept talking. He said, well,
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't going to say that. And he said, but
<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you. He said, for the last three or
<v Speaker 3>four years, every summer when we go down our fish
<v Speaker 3>and we get run out of there from vocalizations and
<v Speaker 3>rock being thrown in the lake, and then he goes
<v Speaker 3>around there and he said, and I was getting ready leave.
<v Speaker 3>He said, well, I'll tell you one more thing. He said,
<v Speaker 3>there's a foot trail and he said, I'll show you
<v Speaker 3>how to get there. Tell you actually is what he said.
<v Speaker 3>And he said it's around there, about a half a
<v Speaker 3>mile or so, he said. And I walked up and
<v Speaker 3>he said. It wasn't on the trail, he said, was
<v Speaker 3>off the trail, not far off the trail. And he
<v Speaker 3>said there was bones and he said, I mean hundreds
<v Speaker 3>of bones. I said, do you want He said yeah,
<v Speaker 3>he said, not like I'm not saying like we're a
<v Speaker 3>deer to a died. He said, I mean there was
<v Speaker 3>hundreds of bones just scattered out, but they were in
<v Speaker 3>one spot.
<v Speaker 1>And these things were munching on critters and it kind
<v Speaker 1>of reminds me of like when people eat frog legs
<v Speaker 1>or lobster, like all the leftovers that you know that
<v Speaker 1>are left after you eat. It's like these things are
<v Speaker 1>doing that with deer and turkeys and all kinds of critters.
<v Speaker 3>And uh, I don't know if you remember, but when
<v Speaker 3>I got back after feeding a deer, it was like
<v Speaker 3>if I didn't, if I wasn't up for averature three
<v Speaker 3>days feeding him, you would just hear crazy stuff at
<v Speaker 3>night around here? Do you think the all calls? Oh,
<v Speaker 3>go ahead, sorry, yeah, the all calls at night. We
<v Speaker 3>was sitting here and she said, tell me you hear that?
<v Speaker 3>I said, yeah, what was it? She said, that's alcohols.
<v Speaker 3>She said turn the TV down. And I mean they
<v Speaker 3>were in front of the house, behind the house, and
<v Speaker 3>when I go outtare. As soon as I went out
<v Speaker 3>the back door, the first one on the very part
<v Speaker 3>of the ridge sounded off. It was like a who
<v Speaker 3>and then it went from back when all the way
<v Speaker 3>down I was counting them, and then the last one hollered.
<v Speaker 3>I was looking straight ahead and it's exactly where I
<v Speaker 3>feed the deer, And it was like, are these things
<v Speaker 3>telling me that? Now I know this sounds stupid. But
<v Speaker 3>I've got the pictures and I've sent them to you
<v Speaker 3>of them deer there with multiple multiple orbs around them.
<v Speaker 3>Are these are these things coming in there eating that
<v Speaker 3>corn too?
<v Speaker 1>I think it's possible, That's what I was getting ready
<v Speaker 1>to say. Do you think like somehow you created like
<v Speaker 1>a gifting situation and when you feed them they react,
<v Speaker 1>and when you also don't feed them, it kind of
<v Speaker 1>ticks them off. And maybe that shadow being, if it's
<v Speaker 1>a sasquatch or a shadow person, maybe they're cloaking and
<v Speaker 1>coming in and grabbing the food and the cameras and
<v Speaker 1>picking it up.
<v Speaker 2>But I don't know.
<v Speaker 1>That's just the wild theory of mine. Who knows, but
<v Speaker 1>oh man, it's freaky.
<v Speaker 3>Well if you remember of all of the and maybe
<v Speaker 3>when you do this you can puss up some of
<v Speaker 3>the stuff and if you need me to rescind them,
<v Speaker 3>my can. But uh, there's one picture when I was
<v Speaker 3>having all the orbs, and if you remember, there's one
<v Speaker 3>like somebody turned on a flashlight and you can see
<v Speaker 3>right there there's nobody there with the flashlight. Explain that. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, it's got the deer lit up.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I noticed that and it's a good quality photo too.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you got some awesome fines from the rock
<v Speaker 1>stacks that you've taken photos of that shadow being the orbs,
<v Speaker 1>like this is high quality stuff. Even that photo with
<v Speaker 1>your granddaughter. You can see that hand like that's that's spooky.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, everything that you've sent me, it's like, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot more going on here, that's for sure.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's not. I got more than just if you
<v Speaker 3>call it a story, you know what I'm saying. No, man,
<v Speaker 3>I want to accounts with you and dude some research.
<v Speaker 3>I'd like to get to meet David and everything, because
<v Speaker 3>so many things that happened to him, you know, I
<v Speaker 3>can sure relate to with the rocks and the bluff
<v Speaker 3>charging and so can you. Just to see if I
<v Speaker 3>don't know, just to see if if if it is me,
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.
<v Speaker 1>I think you'll find out some really interesting things when
<v Speaker 1>you come out there and sit around the fire and
<v Speaker 1>talk to us, because he's had a lot of stuff
<v Speaker 1>that he hasn't told on the documentaries, and there are
<v Speaker 1>similar things that you've told me that you haven't told
<v Speaker 1>on the documentaries. So I think we would definitely be
<v Speaker 1>able to relate and definitely be able to experience some
<v Speaker 1>activity out there. And like I said, it seems like
<v Speaker 1>we've been marked and maybe if we get together will
<v Speaker 1>experience some activity. And it seems to be that way.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's the truth, buddy, I'm telling you. I don't
<v Speaker 3>know if it's where it's the aura that people it's
<v Speaker 3>a vibration. But I mean, I could honestly write a
<v Speaker 3>book and the paranormal stuff is crazier than the encounters
<v Speaker 3>with sasquatch.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, I think you should write some books, and I
<v Speaker 1>think they would be very beneficial to the research that
<v Speaker 1>people are trying to seek out. They need to learn
<v Speaker 1>more about these things. And what you encountered was definitely
<v Speaker 1>real and it was definitely spooky. That one that you
<v Speaker 1>saw when you were rattling the deer antlers and you
<v Speaker 1>mentioned that it was wrinkly looking. Did it look like
<v Speaker 1>an old Native American, like an elder, like how leathery
<v Speaker 1>and wrinkly like their skin is?
<v Speaker 3>Oh? Yeah, it was. It was more of the browridge
<v Speaker 3>was it was so I just I remember when it
<v Speaker 3>first came out, I was just I was like in
<v Speaker 3>my brain, my brain had completely shut down and looking
<v Speaker 3>back on it now, well, when it come out of
<v Speaker 3>the first thing it was in my mind, it's just
<v Speaker 3>my own personal faults and fears. Was it was demonic,
<v Speaker 3>it was the devil, but it was just had a
<v Speaker 3>Neanderthal look. The browridge was so prominent. I could just
<v Speaker 3>you know, close my eyes and slow myself down and
<v Speaker 3>see it. See the wrinkles the eyes I said, had
<v Speaker 3>I could see wats around the very outer edges, but
<v Speaker 3>the center of it, well, you know when you kill
<v Speaker 3>a deer, how their glass looks like a mirrored silvery Look,
<v Speaker 3>that's what the reflection was like. It was given off
<v Speaker 3>but didn't have a snout, didn't have a conical head.
<v Speaker 3>It had a big, prominent jawnline, big ol'd white, blocky teeth,
<v Speaker 3>just massive in the traps they looked like logs, and
<v Speaker 3>the shoulders looked like bowling balls. But the arms, honestly,
<v Speaker 3>besides its face when it changed and melted, really the honestly,
<v Speaker 3>the most freakish thing about it was how big the arms,
<v Speaker 3>how long the arms were, and how big the and
<v Speaker 3>long the hands and fingers were. I mean, it was
<v Speaker 3>not merrish, hideous, just.
<v Speaker 2>It was an abomination.
<v Speaker 3>Exactly that's yeah, I couldn't have said it any better.
<v Speaker 1>Were the fingers like as big as round as like
<v Speaker 1>brought worst like huge?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah, maybe not as fat as that, but if
<v Speaker 3>they were seven or eight inches long, I ain't even
<v Speaker 3>counting the palm. I'm talking just the fingers. This thing
<v Speaker 3>could palm of watermelon. Made an example before it could
<v Speaker 3>have said it's palm on the very tip top of
<v Speaker 3>my head, and its fingers would have been below my chin,
<v Speaker 3>and the head way bigger in the basketball. I don't
<v Speaker 3>even think you could have put its headify gallon bucket.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Their heads are like the size of bison.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yes, and you tell me that that something that
<v Speaker 3>most of them I won't mention no names, but most
<v Speaker 3>of them mentioned that they're just a prime aate that
<v Speaker 3>ain't been discovered. That's a bunch of hogwars. I don't
<v Speaker 3>believe that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And how do you feel like, Like, what does
<v Speaker 1>it make you feel like when you talk to researchers
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, I just want to hear about bigfoot.
<v Speaker 1>I don't care about any of the other stuff, like
<v Speaker 1>orbs or anything else. Like all these intense apearances that
<v Speaker 1>you've had along with it, Like, what do you think
<v Speaker 1>about that? Do you feel like they're not doing the
<v Speaker 1>research justice or what?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they only hear what they want to hear. Now,
<v Speaker 3>I would never shoot anybody down before when I heard
<v Speaker 3>their encounters. And I'll be honest, like I said, when
<v Speaker 3>even I heard the Native Americans, they were the ones
<v Speaker 3>that really put the Orbs and the Bigfoot together. If
<v Speaker 3>they say, if you've seen bolls of lots in the
<v Speaker 3>woods at night, get out and you know. And I
<v Speaker 3>never did this discount the Indians because I believe what
<v Speaker 3>they say. They've been here longer than we have. But
<v Speaker 3>some of them I heard, I was like, man, are
<v Speaker 3>you talking about out there? They really are? But no, nope,
<v Speaker 3>I know what I've seen now. And I don't never
<v Speaker 3>judge nobody else's encounters just because nerves don't match mine.
<v Speaker 3>Don't believe they're not telling the truth.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, I mean the people that think it's an
<v Speaker 1>undiscovered primate. I can't be mad at them because maybe
<v Speaker 1>they only heard like Rock Clyde whoops and some you know,
<v Speaker 1>some sticks being broke out in the woods, you know,
<v Speaker 1>which does like line up with primate activity. You know,
<v Speaker 1>they will stack rocks, they will bluff charge you. They
<v Speaker 1>do strange primate calls. So there is that, but when
<v Speaker 1>you really experience like next level stuff, like there's just
<v Speaker 1>no going back.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And you know, like I said, am I saying
<v Speaker 3>that they ain't that type out there? No, I'm not.
<v Speaker 3>They probably is and probably are, but I'm just saying,
<v Speaker 3>well I've seen was no waight was no primate? No way?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, So if the OSAR carry man myself get back
<v Speaker 1>out there, what what's the game plan?
<v Speaker 2>Like? What should we do?
<v Speaker 1>What do you think will put us in the center
<v Speaker 1>of this activity to where we can document something, whether
<v Speaker 1>it's on the audio recorders, the thermal devices, this new
<v Speaker 1>thermal night vision drone that I'm getting, I mean, anything
<v Speaker 1>that we can get. What's the game plan?
<v Speaker 3>Oh? Well, the only thing you got this is just
<v Speaker 3>comes where I live and we'll go across. We can
<v Speaker 3>go right here and cross the lake. I know where
<v Speaker 3>they're at.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what I said.
<v Speaker 3>Where we was at the Daniel Boone huh. And I
<v Speaker 3>ain't gonna say the other place that we went because
<v Speaker 3>I don't want other people knowing. But if you remember,
<v Speaker 3>I was a screenshot of that Google mapping where I
<v Speaker 3>live and where we went the way it crow flies
<v Speaker 3>ain't fifteen minutes.
<v Speaker 1>Oh wait, yeah, we me and Joe actually found that
<v Speaker 1>spot on the Bigfoot Mapping project. We saw a few
<v Speaker 1>icons there, so we're like, hey, Jimmy, let's go here,
<v Speaker 1>and You're like, okay, let's go. I mean we went
<v Speaker 1>to several areas in the Daniel Boone. You took us
<v Speaker 1>to your areas where you've had experiences at and down
<v Speaker 1>there by the graveyard. But the spot where we heard
<v Speaker 1>the canines that came from the Bigfoot Mapping project. And
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to say where that's at, but it
<v Speaker 1>just seems like where we were staying at at the
<v Speaker 1>air BnB where you live at, right up the road,
<v Speaker 1>like that was the hot spot, and we went way
<v Speaker 1>deep into the woods. I'm looking for these things and
<v Speaker 1>it's like the whole time.
<v Speaker 2>Man.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Well, like I said, I've I've had stuff that
<v Speaker 3>happened there, but I just didn't It's not that I
<v Speaker 3>wasn't trying to hide it from him, So I was
<v Speaker 3>just I really pretty much talking myself into believing that
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't real. And I kept thinking that, kept thinking
<v Speaker 3>that until it kept getting shoved up in my face,
<v Speaker 3>and then you can't deny when you get videos and
<v Speaker 3>pictures of it, you can't deny that. Then.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, it seems like if you got a firearm
<v Speaker 1>or a bow you're out there hunting, you're gonna take
<v Speaker 1>these things off.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, where your other guy was on and had his encounter,
<v Speaker 3>I know exactly where that's at.
<v Speaker 1>He kind of described it the same as like when
<v Speaker 1>you were camping when you're a kid, Like these things
<v Speaker 1>like rushing you and they're all around you and they're
<v Speaker 1>hooping and hollering, like that's what he said in the podcast,
<v Speaker 1>Like that's kind of what was going on with you,
<v Speaker 1>except a lot more menacing.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I don't know what pissed this thing off.
<v Speaker 2>For too long.
<v Speaker 3>Uh yeah, but and I uh, you know, hearing all
<v Speaker 3>my uncles and my dad reassured me that it was
<v Speaker 3>just a mountain liner, it was a bobcat, or it
<v Speaker 3>was this, or it was that. And then two you
<v Speaker 3>got older, did I realize they was lied through their
<v Speaker 3>teeth to me because I was just a kid. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>I mean it just it's just I can sit here
<v Speaker 3>while we're talking and just thinking so much stuff, man,
<v Speaker 3>that has happened to me and I don't know, but
<v Speaker 3>there's more to Loft than what we realize.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, absolutely, without a doubt. Okay, Jimmy, well, do
<v Speaker 1>you have anything else that you'd like to share?
<v Speaker 3>Now? Man? That that about that about covers it. And
<v Speaker 3>of course we uh, we'll keep in touch and anything
<v Speaker 3>new happens. I know probably won't be tonight, but here
<v Speaker 3>in the next night or two, I'm I'm wanting to
<v Speaker 3>go back up there and tall blast, but this time,
<v Speaker 3>when I do, I'm gonna be ready. I just couldn't
<v Speaker 3>believe the last time I done it, how fast it
<v Speaker 3>fired back at me. I could not believe it.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Deely, unexpected?
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I mean I just told I was just
<v Speaker 3>going to go out and plead with the tool. I
<v Speaker 3>didn't know I was gonna get a response back that fast.
<v Speaker 3>But no, man, I'm glad to be back on the show.
<v Speaker 3>I can't wait till you and Nosart harry Man to
<v Speaker 3>come back. And I definitely this summer before this fall
<v Speaker 3>comes and it gets rough and stuff, I promise you
<v Speaker 3>all come after you just get with David and I'll
<v Speaker 3>come out there and we'll spend three or four days
<v Speaker 3>out there at this farm and I guarantee you something
<v Speaker 3>will stir up. No, yeah, it always seems to follow me.
<v Speaker 1>I guarantee you you will see the orbs out there,
<v Speaker 1>that's for sure. I don't know if Bigfoot's going to
<v Speaker 1>come in, but you will see the lights. And yeah,
<v Speaker 1>when you do come out, you will definitely have a
<v Speaker 1>comfortable place to stay. We'll pull up the camper up
<v Speaker 1>there so you'll have everything you need, and I'll stay
<v Speaker 1>in my tent and I think we'll we'll be able
<v Speaker 1>to do some pretty good research out there for sure.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, man, I'm excited. I can't wait. But as always,
<v Speaker 3>Buddy H, thank a lot of you and H doing
<v Speaker 3>the right thing, and don't let any of the haters
<v Speaker 3>try to tell you otherwise.
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that, and thank you so much for telling
<v Speaker 1>your encounters and experiences here on the channel. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>I really don't know what to say, Like, I'm extremely
<v Speaker 1>grateful and thankful for everything you've done.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I wouldn't be able to do without people
<v Speaker 2>like you.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. No, well, just thanks for having a platform for
<v Speaker 3>people like us. That's all we ask, and not none
<v Speaker 3>of the bogus bullshitters.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely well, send me anything that you haven't already. And
<v Speaker 1>anything that you come across in the future, definitely document it,
<v Speaker 1>even if you question it at first, like take a
<v Speaker 1>picture of it.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I will, Buddy, I promise.
<v Speaker 2>All right.
<v Speaker 1>Sounds good, and you take care of yourself.
<v Speaker 3>All right, you too.
<v Speaker 1>All right, I'll talk to you later. Man, See buddy, yep,
<v Speaker 1>see latter man?
<v Speaker 3>Fine, all right.
<v Speaker 2>Everyone.
<v Speaker 1>That was Jimmy from the Daniel Boone National Forest in Kentucky.
<v Speaker 1>And I consider Jimmy one of my close friends. There's
<v Speaker 1>not very many people that understand me that have had
<v Speaker 1>the same experiences and e sighting encounters as myself, but
<v Speaker 1>Jimmy has. Jimmy knows what it feels like to be
<v Speaker 1>paralleled by these creatures, to be bluff chair arch by them.
<v Speaker 1>To know what it feels like when one of these
<v Speaker 1>things slaps the side of your house. But not only that,
<v Speaker 1>it goes far beyond just an unknown primate, an undiscovered
<v Speaker 1>creature living in North America. Jimmy knows what it feels
<v Speaker 1>like to experience a supernatural activity. I talk about the
<v Speaker 1>giant ale that I've seen and the orbs, the cloaking,
<v Speaker 1>and Jimmy can certainly relate. He's seen the same things,
<v Speaker 1>and we're not talking about paradolia here. We're talking about
<v Speaker 1>eight to ten foot creature that's invisible walking through the
<v Speaker 1>forest and you can really feel its presence, the orbs.
<v Speaker 1>It's definitely supernatural. The Native Americans have talked about it
<v Speaker 1>for generations and they say to never pursue the orbs
<v Speaker 1>or else you will meet your demise. What did you
<v Speaker 1>guys think about the vocalizations and also the trailcam photos.
<v Speaker 1>The shadow person or the cloak sasquatch on the muddy
<v Speaker 1>trailcam is definitely freaky, to say the least. I plan
<v Speaker 1>on getting back out there with Jimmy here this winter,
<v Speaker 1>so stay tuned for that in the future. I appreciate
<v Speaker 1>everyone for listening, and until the next one, you guys
<v Speaker 1>be safe out in the forest.