STRANGE NON-HUMAN CREATURES ENCOUNTERED IN ARIZONA | IS THERE A CONNECTION WITH CRYPIDS?

<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, and welcome to another Sasquatch Theory podcast. On
<v Speaker 1>this episode, we have David and he had some really
<v Speaker 1>bizarre encounters. I don't want to ridicule anyone, and he
<v Speaker 1>called me to report these experiences on the channel, so
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to remain open minded, and if anyone's had
<v Speaker 1>an experience like this, let me know down in the
<v Speaker 1>comments below. I don't mind taking reports like this, but
<v Speaker 1>I prefer to keep things revolved around Bigfoot. It's good
<v Speaker 1>to theorize and think outside the box, but at the
<v Speaker 1>end of the day, I'm looking for Bigfoot eyesight and
<v Speaker 1>encounters so I can learn more about these creatures and
<v Speaker 1>maybe there is a connection, but I want to keep
<v Speaker 1>things all about Bigfoot, if that makes sense. This is
<v Speaker 1>nothing against the caller, but I want to make sure
<v Speaker 1>that things stay on track with Bigfoot. And if you've
<v Speaker 1>had a Bigfoot encounter, it's okay to share the paranormal
<v Speaker 1>and UFO experiences, but I don't want to us do
<v Speaker 1>UFOM paranormal. All right, guys, With all that being said,
<v Speaker 1>let's dive straight into this next report here on Sasquatch Theory.
<v Speaker 1>All right, David, welcome to sasquatch theory. How are you
<v Speaker 1>doing today?
<v Speaker 2>Great?
<v Speaker 1>Good, good to hear, David, you had some strange experiences,
<v Speaker 1>if you can run me through all of them, and
<v Speaker 1>I'm excited to hear about them.
<v Speaker 2>Okay. My earliest that I recall happened probably about nineteen
<v Speaker 2>fifty eight or nineteen fifty nine. I would have been
<v Speaker 2>about five or six years old. I lived with my grandmother,
<v Speaker 2>who was seventy out in a small little farm in
<v Speaker 2>southern Ohio. So we were surrounded by corn and dirt road,
<v Speaker 2>and across the across the road was a very very
<v Speaker 2>farm pasture for Dery Colson. And it was just you know,
<v Speaker 2>she and I and a bunch of chickens in the yard.
<v Speaker 2>And sometimes I get lonely. Well, one morning, it was
<v Speaker 2>probably about eight thirty nine o'clock in the morning, and
<v Speaker 2>I'm on the front porch and the chickens, which we
<v Speaker 2>would let go out out of the roost at night,
<v Speaker 2>we'd just let them go in the yard, and all
<v Speaker 2>the once the chickens just freaked out and ran ran
<v Speaker 2>across the dirt road and ran into the corn and
<v Speaker 2>ran underneath the house, thinking what's up? You know, something's
<v Speaker 2>coming into the yard, and I looked around the side
<v Speaker 2>of the house, and here comes a little stuffed toy bunny,
<v Speaker 2>maybe about two and a half feet tall, had a
<v Speaker 2>white tmmy blue back and kind of a yellowish or
<v Speaker 2>pinky shove color in the ears. And it had like
<v Speaker 2>a ribbon, a yellow ribbon that was torn and kind
<v Speaker 2>of a tight into a bow that went off to
<v Speaker 2>one side of the neck of the body. And it
<v Speaker 2>looked soiled, and it looked well worn, and it was
<v Speaker 2>kind of dirty, and the bow wasn't right. And it's
<v Speaker 2>kind of like coming towards me, maybe about a foot
<v Speaker 2>and a half two feet off the ground by itself
<v Speaker 2>with nothing around it, coming up to me. And even
<v Speaker 2>though I was a child, and this is this is crazy,
<v Speaker 2>I mean, why would something like this be happening. And
<v Speaker 2>as I looked at it and it was coming closer
<v Speaker 2>and closer to me, I can't tell if it was
<v Speaker 2>a physical voice or if it communicated with me in
<v Speaker 2>my mind. And I kept saying, you know, I'm in trouble.
<v Speaker 2>I need some help. Will you come help me. I
<v Speaker 2>need to find something. If you'll come help me and
<v Speaker 2>we find it, you and I can be pals and
<v Speaker 2>we can play, you know, we'll have some fun, we'll
<v Speaker 2>have some adventure. And it would move like someone had
<v Speaker 2>his hand behind, like a stuffed toy and you move
<v Speaker 2>it back and forth to play with a child or
<v Speaker 2>a puppy like ooh, here comes the body. It was
<v Speaker 2>moving like that, like something was moving it, but there
<v Speaker 2>was nothing. There was nothing underneath it, there was nothing
<v Speaker 2>on the sides, nothing behind it. I could clearly see it,
<v Speaker 2>and I kept trying to get me to go away
<v Speaker 2>with it, and I thought, no, no, I'm not going
<v Speaker 2>to go away with you. And maybe I would have
<v Speaker 2>because I was a lonely little kid, but the way
<v Speaker 2>that chickens reacted and they saw it first, that scared me.
<v Speaker 2>And I wouldn't go with this, with this stuffed bunny.
<v Speaker 2>And you know, I kept trying to get me to
<v Speaker 2>go and kept saying, come on, come on, we'll have
<v Speaker 2>a great time. We don't have to go far. Just
<v Speaker 2>you and me will be pals. I just nah, I'm
<v Speaker 2>not doing it. So finally it stopped and started going
<v Speaker 2>backwards and going around the side of the house where
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't see it. I'm thinking, you know, what's it doing?
<v Speaker 2>Is it going to run up and grab me. What's
<v Speaker 2>it going to do? So I grabbed hold of the
<v Speaker 2>side of the house and I swung myself around the
<v Speaker 2>house and it had turned around, so now I'm seeing
<v Speaker 2>the back of the body, and this time what I
<v Speaker 2>saw it looked like a two and a half foot
<v Speaker 2>maybe three foot dinosaur with spikes down its back, down
<v Speaker 2>its tail, and what looked like maybe where the snout
<v Speaker 2>would have been. I couldn't see it because I'm seeing
<v Speaker 2>it from the rear end. Looked like maybe the snout
<v Speaker 2>had stuck its nose in the back of a stuffed bunny.
<v Speaker 2>It was clear as that it was a slightly green issue.
<v Speaker 2>It was definitely a dinosaur or four legs, walking on
<v Speaker 2>four legs, kind of fat, wodily, and was going around
<v Speaker 2>the other side of the house. And I ran in
<v Speaker 2>the house and I told my grandmother what happened. You know,
<v Speaker 2>she's grabbing a gun and running out the door and
<v Speaker 2>chasing it. She totally believed me, and she was gone
<v Speaker 2>for a bit and finally thought, oh my god, it's
<v Speaker 2>got her, And pretty soon she comes back and we
<v Speaker 2>both stayed in the house for like a couple of days,
<v Speaker 2>looking out the windows, seeing if something bizarre is out there.
<v Speaker 2>And she told me she goes whatever, you know, if
<v Speaker 2>anything ever tries to get you to go with it,
<v Speaker 2>be it a human or not being a you know,
<v Speaker 2>man or beast, she says, never never go with it.
<v Speaker 2>And it's like, well, yeah, I never will. Well, I've
<v Speaker 2>had many, many incredible experiences in my life, and I
<v Speaker 2>was a hospice nurse for seventeen years, and I had
<v Speaker 2>some incredible spirit experiences. But this thing was just so
<v Speaker 2>bizarre I was afraid to share it, so I other
<v Speaker 2>than telling my grandmother, I think, I don't think I
<v Speaker 2>told anybody else until about sixty five years later. And
<v Speaker 2>I went to my first UFO event in twenty twenty two.
<v Speaker 2>And for the last couple decades, I worked every weekend
<v Speaker 2>because I used to go camping, so I had to
<v Speaker 2>work Friday, Saturday, Sundays, and then I would have three
<v Speaker 2>days during the week off to go camping when everybody
<v Speaker 2>else is at work. And then it was great for camping,
<v Speaker 2>but unfortunately I missed all the kinds of seminars and
<v Speaker 2>workshops and things, and I'm kind of skinna sorry I
<v Speaker 2>did that now. But I went to think and Mesa
<v Speaker 2>Arizona it's called the UFO Congress, and they had a
<v Speaker 2>section of in the morning session, it was called the
<v Speaker 2>Experiencers Meeting, and people got to stand up and tell
<v Speaker 2>their stories. And I was going to tell my story
<v Speaker 2>about the Phoenix Lights which I saw in nineteen ninety seven,
<v Speaker 2>and the first man that stood up, who was also
<v Speaker 2>from Ohio, told my story. I mean almost exactly. It
<v Speaker 2>had happened to him, probably about thirty years after I
<v Speaker 2>had had my experience, and his instead of being a
<v Speaker 2>stuffed toy that he saw, it was the Easter Bunny
<v Speaker 2>and it was cartoon like and it was animated and
<v Speaker 2>it came up and tried to get him to go
<v Speaker 2>away with it, and he wouldn't go, and it scared
<v Speaker 2>him and he said no, no, no, I'm not going
<v Speaker 2>to go, and an off it went. And I was like, oh,
<v Speaker 2>I can't wait to talk to this guy because that's
<v Speaker 2>pretty much what happened to me. Then the next man
<v Speaker 2>that stood up said the same thing happened to me,
<v Speaker 2>and I believe he was also from Ohio, and it
<v Speaker 2>was probably about twenty years ago. An animated rabbit came
<v Speaker 2>to him and tried to get him to go away
<v Speaker 2>with it. And he refused to go, and he kept
<v Speaker 2>trying to get and go. We'll be friends, the exact
<v Speaker 2>same script like I had heard back in the late
<v Speaker 2>nineteen fifties, the same thing going on. So I kind
<v Speaker 2>of forced myself to be the next person to stand up.
<v Speaker 2>My god, I I had the same thing too. So
<v Speaker 2>the three of us got together afterwards, and you know,
<v Speaker 2>shared addresses and shared our stories, and I just kept thinking,
<v Speaker 2>this is bizarre. How why did three men have the
<v Speaker 2>same experience and something taking on the form that a
<v Speaker 2>child would associate with and trust. And one of the
<v Speaker 2>be with and be pals with tried to get us
<v Speaker 2>to go away. So I got on a social media
<v Speaker 2>site and I put my story out there. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>I finally, after sitting on this for six decades, it
<v Speaker 2>was thrilling to find someone that understood what I was
<v Speaker 2>talking about. And anyway, I got I think it's two
<v Speaker 2>hundred and forty replies, and thirty six people contacted me
<v Speaker 2>that had the same thing happened to them as children,
<v Speaker 2>and they were all much younger than I was. One
<v Speaker 2>of them, it was Woody from Toy Story, which came
<v Speaker 2>up to him and tried to get him to go
<v Speaker 2>away with it. Another one it was Captain Crunch, and
<v Speaker 2>it was it was who was popular when they were children.
<v Speaker 2>And you know I saw a stuff, a stuffed toy.
<v Speaker 2>But living with my grandmother and on the farm, we
<v Speaker 2>got one TV channel, and I really wasn't you know,
<v Speaker 2>privy to get to watch cartoons out in the middle
<v Speaker 2>of nowhere, and you know, we were poor. I mean
<v Speaker 2>people used to leave boxes of food and use clothings.
<v Speaker 2>They drive by and leave it on the side of
<v Speaker 2>the road and drive off. I'm sure they were terrified.
<v Speaker 2>I was. We looked look pretty desperate, you know, a
<v Speaker 2>five year old kid and a seventy year old woman.
<v Speaker 2>And the toys that I did get were all used.
<v Speaker 2>It was somebody else's toys. I got everybody's hand me down.
<v Speaker 2>So seeing whatever it is that took on the form
<v Speaker 2>of a stuffed bunny, it knew me as a little
<v Speaker 2>poor country boy. You know, a nice new bunny would
<v Speaker 2>just be odd and a cartoon and animated, you know
<v Speaker 2>bunny that would be terrifying to me. So it took
<v Speaker 2>on the shape that I would associate with. So one
<v Speaker 2>of the people of the thirty six people that contacted me,
<v Speaker 2>not one of them went with the operation or whatever
<v Speaker 2>form it was, whatever whatever the being is that takes
<v Speaker 2>on the form to lure children away. None of them
<v Speaker 2>went with it except one woman, and she hadn't heard
<v Speaker 2>my story yet, and she told me and she this
<v Speaker 2>happened like thirty years ago to her, and she's still
<v Speaker 2>freaking out for it. She ended up traumatized. She did
<v Speaker 2>go with it, and it was Santa Claus. And it
<v Speaker 2>happened multiple times after she said yes the first time,
<v Speaker 2>and then they came and got her again and again
<v Speaker 2>and again. And there was a round hatch in the
<v Speaker 2>back of Santa's sleigh. So instead of hopping in the
<v Speaker 2>sleigh like where Sanna in the presence and the Alps
<v Speaker 2>would be, she had to like scoop through this tube
<v Speaker 2>in the back of the sleigh. And she said, without
<v Speaker 2>hearing my story, Sana once turned around, it is Sanna
<v Speaker 2>out It kind of split open and out came a
<v Speaker 2>dinosaur telle And she described it with the spikes and everything,
<v Speaker 2>exactly the way I saw it back in the late
<v Speaker 2>nineteen fifties, and she went with it. There were many
<v Speaker 2>medical examinations that she had. She's never been able to date,
<v Speaker 2>she's never had a relationship, She stays to herself. It's
<v Speaker 2>just been traumatizing all of her life. So what's going on?
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I'm thinking about contacting all these thirty
<v Speaker 2>six people again and maybe seeing about interviewing them and
<v Speaker 2>get some research going on. This Something wants children and
<v Speaker 2>something for some reason they have to have They had
<v Speaker 2>to have our permission. They couldn't just Navius, couldn't just
<v Speaker 2>run off with us. They needed our permission. And what's
<v Speaker 2>that about. There's a movie came out in two thousand
<v Speaker 2>and two. Some have just recently shared this with me.
<v Speaker 2>It's called Taken. I think it's by Steven Spielberg. It
<v Speaker 2>was a three part TV show and they actually they
<v Speaker 2>have it on YouTube. You can watch it for free.
<v Speaker 2>And there's a part in there where a little animated
<v Speaker 2>squirrel comes in and lures this boy out of his
<v Speaker 2>bedroom and they go into the hollow of a tree
<v Speaker 2>and then the tree turns into a spaceship and off
<v Speaker 2>they go. And it was like, oh my god, I
<v Speaker 2>just get goose bumps, just goose bumps. So that was
<v Speaker 2>my first experience with a non human. I've never seen
<v Speaker 2>it since. Nothing like that ever happened to me. Ever, again,
<v Speaker 2>it didn't come back, at least that I know of,
<v Speaker 2>at least that I remember.
<v Speaker 1>All right, David, I appreciate you for sharing that, and yeah,
<v Speaker 1>that is the first time I've ever heard that, and
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you were able to speak with other people
<v Speaker 1>that have had similar experiences. What do you think was
<v Speaker 1>the cause to this phenomenon?
<v Speaker 2>You know? And I said on this, I suffered with
<v Speaker 2>this for sixty almost sixty five years, because I know
<v Speaker 2>what was real, and it was like an hour or
<v Speaker 2>so before the chickens even came back, even thought about it,
<v Speaker 2>and they were freaking out for days. So you know,
<v Speaker 2>it's crazy as a little boy to have such a
<v Speaker 2>bizarre thing happen. And my only camaraderie is a flock
<v Speaker 2>of chickens Banni ends. So I know what happened. And
<v Speaker 2>I sat on this and said, what on earth could
<v Speaker 2>it be? It wasn't spirits, it wasn't ghosts, you know.
<v Speaker 2>So thank god that man told his story, stood up
<v Speaker 2>and told his truth at that Experiences meeting, because I
<v Speaker 2>never would have said a word because it just sounds
<v Speaker 2>so flipping crazy. But this stuff is going on again
<v Speaker 2>and again and again. I've now online I've run into
<v Speaker 2>thirty six people in different countries that it's all happened to.
<v Speaker 2>And then the two guys experience meeting. Something's going on something.
<v Speaker 2>Why do they need our permission? Who are they? Why
<v Speaker 2>did it look like a dinosaur? I don't know. I
<v Speaker 2>have no answers. I have so many questions and so
<v Speaker 2>few answers. And several people tried to tell me, oh,
<v Speaker 2>it's this, that and the other, and maybe they know.
<v Speaker 2>People have feelings, people have thoughts, people have opinions, but
<v Speaker 2>if it's not validated, I would rather keep everything into
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I would rather not know than to
<v Speaker 2>think something wrong and not seek anything forward. So I
<v Speaker 2>don't know. You haven't heard of this, I've I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>I've never saw I didn't see a ship around. If
<v Speaker 2>my grandmother saw something or encountered something which she was
<v Speaker 2>running around chasing it with a gun, she never told me.
<v Speaker 2>And you know, maybe if she did see something, she
<v Speaker 2>didn't want to frighten me. I wish I would have
<v Speaker 2>talked about it more with her later on, but I
<v Speaker 2>mean she didn't live a whole lot longer after that,
<v Speaker 2>so it's a big question mark. And maybe some of
<v Speaker 2>your viewers have had something similar to this and and
<v Speaker 2>can shed some light on it. I would appreciate some insight.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, I appreciate you for sharing that. And what
<v Speaker 1>else have you experienced in your life?
<v Speaker 2>The next I've had many spirit stories. My parents were
<v Speaker 2>open to everything. So if there was a psyche in town,
<v Speaker 2>my mom took me and we would go to Kentucky
<v Speaker 2>and Tennessee and go to the snake handling churches, you know,
<v Speaker 2>anything unusual. My parents were you know, took me and
<v Speaker 2>I was open to things, and I think I think
<v Speaker 2>I developed such an open attitude and paying attention to
<v Speaker 2>the little things I think sometimes makes you more and
<v Speaker 2>more aware of some of the big things. But for
<v Speaker 2>UFOs and non human entities. My next goes many years later,
<v Speaker 2>and that was in nineteen ninety seven when I was
<v Speaker 2>I was lived in Phoenix, Arizona, and I worked in NISA.
<v Speaker 2>I was hospice nurse. I worked and attend bead end
<v Speaker 2>of Life hospice unit and I was supposed to get
<v Speaker 2>off around seven thirty at night. I had had three
<v Speaker 2>deaths towards the end of my shift, and then the
<v Speaker 2>night nurse was a little late so I didn't get
<v Speaker 2>out on time, which put me at the absolute best
<v Speaker 2>location I could have been to see what I saw.
<v Speaker 2>So I'm heading from Mace, Arizona to Phoenix, Arizona. I'm
<v Speaker 2>going down right Interstate sixty, and it was under construction
<v Speaker 2>at the time. In fact, there was no pavement whatsoever.
<v Speaker 2>It was just dirt, and I probably should have taken
<v Speaker 2>side streets, but there was no one on it. I
<v Speaker 2>thought it'd be faster. So as I'm driving, I was
<v Speaker 2>probably about in Tempe, right between Mason and Phoenix, and
<v Speaker 2>every time it came to an overpass, instead of driving
<v Speaker 2>under it, you had to exit, go over the overpass,
<v Speaker 2>and then get back down on the freeway due to
<v Speaker 2>the construction. So this one place when I got off,
<v Speaker 2>there was this huge hell of construction debris, and I
<v Speaker 2>drove up on it and someone said maybe I was
<v Speaker 2>supposed to drive around it. But it was getting evening.
<v Speaker 2>It was probably about eight fifteen eight thirty or so,
<v Speaker 2>and as I'm on top of this construction hill, there's
<v Speaker 2>a nearby freeway street light very close to me, and
<v Speaker 2>freeway street lights are much taller than like neighborhood streetlights
<v Speaker 2>and much brighter had like five or six bulbs on it,
<v Speaker 2>and it was probably about two feet above me. So
<v Speaker 2>I'm way up there on the overpass and on this
<v Speaker 2>hill of construction debris, and as I look out the window,
<v Speaker 2>I see this massive boomerang shaped thing coming towards me,
<v Speaker 2>and I slam on my brakes and I get out
<v Speaker 2>of the truck. I have my brights on. I've got
<v Speaker 2>the nearby street light. As a craft is coming closer
<v Speaker 2>and closer and closer, and it's very low, and the
<v Speaker 2>lights on the bottom of the craft look like lava
<v Speaker 2>was dripping down. It looked like a liquid fire and
<v Speaker 2>it would drip down in strands, maybe three, four or
<v Speaker 2>five strands at a time, thick and sticky looking, and
<v Speaker 2>it would flow down maybe four six eight feet and
<v Speaker 2>then form a huge drip and stop, and then the
<v Speaker 2>drip would go back up and more would come down,
<v Speaker 2>kind of like an upside down lava lamp, but it
<v Speaker 2>was more liquid. It was a very bright orange. It
<v Speaker 2>was like orange crush orange. And as the stuff dripped down,
<v Speaker 2>it looked like it was yellow. And it's just like
<v Speaker 2>when I was a kid, we used to pull taffy
<v Speaker 2>for fun, and when you pull it and it gets thin,
<v Speaker 2>the color changes. That's what this stuff was doing. And
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't like the light was coming from my viewpoint.
<v Speaker 2>There was light up in the the opening at the
<v Speaker 2>bottom of the craft, but this stuff was actually making
<v Speaker 2>its own light. And as it came closer and closer
<v Speaker 2>to me, the ground was orange. I was orange. Everything
<v Speaker 2>was orange from the light that emitted from this stuff.
<v Speaker 2>And I'm thinking, you know, it looks hot. You know,
<v Speaker 2>I was concerned that I'm going to get burned. I
<v Speaker 2>didn't know if I should jump back in my truck,
<v Speaker 2>if I should get behind my truck. Is the gas
<v Speaker 2>tank going to blow up? You know? Is this the end? What?
<v Speaker 2>And as it got closer, I realized there was no heat.
<v Speaker 2>So I just stood there and all look. It looked
<v Speaker 2>like a city floating in the air. It my guess,
<v Speaker 2>would be a mile to a mile and a half wide,
<v Speaker 2>and it was a perfect boomerang the angle of a banana.
<v Speaker 2>And I know people see it as a V shape,
<v Speaker 2>and to me, it wasn't V at all. The very
<v Speaker 2>tip of the left wing went like right over my head.
<v Speaker 2>Had the craft fallen to the ground, I could have
<v Speaker 2>taken two steps and kicked the tip of the left wing,
<v Speaker 2>and I see other people drawing it like the like.
<v Speaker 2>The wing came to a point and it was rounded
<v Speaker 2>vertically and horizontally, and I felt confident I could have
<v Speaker 2>hit it with a rock. It was that low. And
<v Speaker 2>plus I'm up about street light, freeway, street light high.
<v Speaker 2>I'm just going to guess that the tip of the
<v Speaker 2>tip of the left wing was about three feet over
<v Speaker 2>my head, and with the light from the brights of
<v Speaker 2>my truck and from the street light, I could clearly
<v Speaker 2>see the bottom for a couple hundred feet and it
<v Speaker 2>was a solid piece of machinery. There was no rivets.
<v Speaker 2>There was no bolts, service, no scenes, there was no screws.
<v Speaker 2>It was one piece of material and it had thousands
<v Speaker 2>of oval shaped indentations. They were probably a couple feet wide,
<v Speaker 2>and they went from from the tip of the wing
<v Speaker 2>all the way as far as I could see towards
<v Speaker 2>the bottom. Thousands of them. They were kind of scattered
<v Speaker 2>every which way. They all went in the same direction,
<v Speaker 2>and I would say it was like a gun metal gray.
<v Speaker 2>The material was about twenty percent reflective and maybe about
<v Speaker 2>eighty percent matt There was a little bit of a
<v Speaker 2>shine from it, and then the nearest light I could
<v Speaker 2>see just a bit up into it on the other side,
<v Speaker 2>and maybe up a couple inches. Inside the opening, it
<v Speaker 2>was like a canister, like a canister lamp. There was
<v Speaker 2>maybe about a two three inch silver lining, and out
<v Speaker 2>of that's what flowed. What I saw was lava. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure it's not lava, but it looked like lava.
<v Speaker 2>It was a liquid fire with no heat. It gave
<v Speaker 2>off no odor. It didn't blow my hair, it didn't
<v Speaker 2>blow dust in my face. So whatever its purpose was,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. But every one of the openings in
<v Speaker 2>the of the craft had this stuff coming out, and
<v Speaker 2>I focused on what was closest to me because I
<v Speaker 2>was concerned about it being hot, until it finally, you know,
<v Speaker 2>came up on me. But looking straight up, I could
<v Speaker 2>see the tip of the left wing. But to see
<v Speaker 2>the rest of the craft, because it was low and
<v Speaker 2>I was elevated, I didn't even have to move my
<v Speaker 2>head to see it. I just had to raise my
<v Speaker 2>eyes just a little bit, and I could see the
<v Speaker 2>whole bottom of this massive craft, just gently meandering, taking
<v Speaker 2>this time, just floating right over right over my head
<v Speaker 2>and as it passed. There's a video somebody did. It's
<v Speaker 2>called the Prescott Witness and they did a computer generation
<v Speaker 2>and he and I are the only people that I
<v Speaker 2>know that saw this, and they put it in the video.
<v Speaker 2>It looked like a multicolor missed waving like a fish
<v Speaker 2>tail behind the craft in different spots, and it glowed.
<v Speaker 2>It was like rainbow colors and different stripes. It looked
<v Speaker 2>like something out of Disneyland. It was very pretty and sparkling.
<v Speaker 2>And I think, you look, eat breath and is there
<v Speaker 2>any odor? I felt nothing. I felt nothing on my face,
<v Speaker 2>no tingling. I didn't feel heat. I didn't feel nauseous.
<v Speaker 2>You know, my eyes weren't burning. And I'm a nurse,
<v Speaker 2>so you kind of pay any to pay attention to
<v Speaker 2>this stuff. And after the craft passed over me, I
<v Speaker 2>just had this enormous, overwhelming feeling of gratitude and joy
<v Speaker 2>and happiness. And it felt like the best friends you
<v Speaker 2>ever had in your life just went by and said
<v Speaker 2>you know, I love you and hello, just checking on you.
<v Speaker 2>And I didn't hear a voice. I just had this
<v Speaker 2>incredible feeling. And as I stood there and watched it
<v Speaker 2>passed down through southern Phoenix and then into Chandler. I
<v Speaker 2>just stood there and cried for like ten solid minutes
<v Speaker 2>and just kept saying thank you, thank you, thank you,
<v Speaker 2>thank you. I don't know what it was. I don't
<v Speaker 2>know who was in it. I don't know who had
<v Speaker 2>their hand on the staring wheel or who had their
<v Speaker 2>foot on the pedal, but that was absolutely the most
<v Speaker 2>amazing thing to see. And it flew effortlessly, and with
<v Speaker 2>the lights that I had on it, the street light
<v Speaker 2>and then the headlights of my truck, and then coming
<v Speaker 2>the other way was the orange lava stuff giving off
<v Speaker 2>this glow. I mean, the whole ground and all of me.
<v Speaker 2>When I looked down, I was completely orange from the
<v Speaker 2>light that this stuff gave off. It made shadows, these
<v Speaker 2>little givots in the bottom of the craft, oval shaped,
<v Speaker 2>kind of like the bowl of a spoon. It was
<v Speaker 2>like that, but a big And as it passed overhead,
<v Speaker 2>the shadows moved. Because as the craft moved, you know,
<v Speaker 2>I'm seeing light from a different angle, the shadows moved
<v Speaker 2>with it. So some people have said that maybe it
<v Speaker 2>was a hologram, but why would the shadows look different
<v Speaker 2>as it moved coming towards me In front of me,
<v Speaker 2>over me, and then it was as it headed south.
<v Speaker 2>So it was solid and it wasn't flares, it wasn't fire.
<v Speaker 2>It was a liquid. And I've not talked to one
<v Speaker 2>other person that saw the lava. I'm the only person
<v Speaker 2>that I know of that saw that, and I don't
<v Speaker 2>know why that is. I did talk to a man
<v Speaker 2>that probably saw in about four minutes before I did,
<v Speaker 2>because he was a farther a little bit farther north,
<v Speaker 2>and one of the canisters, one of the openings of
<v Speaker 2>the craft went right over his head, and he said
<v Speaker 2>he could look right up into it. He saw the
<v Speaker 2>little silver ring the lining that I saw, but he
<v Speaker 2>said what looked like way up inside the craft was
<v Speaker 2>substance spinning like a cotton candy and a machine. So
<v Speaker 2>I'm wondering if I saw lava, if something was forming
<v Speaker 2>at that point and it came out when I saw it,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. But it went over a lot of
<v Speaker 2>people's heads, and no one else is describing that, but
<v Speaker 2>everybody else is looking up at it. I was elevated
<v Speaker 2>pretty high and it was pretty low at least where
<v Speaker 2>I was, so I'm seeing it mostly horizontally versus looking
<v Speaker 2>up vertically. So maybe that's why I saw the lava
<v Speaker 2>stuff dripping down. I don't know, And I mean it
<v Speaker 2>was just like I barely made it home. It's like,
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, what is this. I didn't know who
<v Speaker 2>to go to. I mean, who do you call on this?
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know anything about move On. I didn't know
<v Speaker 2>there was UFO groups. I hadn't had no idea. So
<v Speaker 2>I sat on it for quite a while and it
<v Speaker 2>was interesting. A couple years later, I was working with
<v Speaker 2>a social worker and he had been in North Phoenix
<v Speaker 2>when the craft went right over his car, and he
<v Speaker 2>was heading south, so he didn't see it coming upon him.
<v Speaker 2>But he had stopped at a red light and had
<v Speaker 2>his windows down, and he was listening to the radio,
<v Speaker 2>the music on the radio, and the car stopped next
<v Speaker 2>to him, and he could hear the crickets chirping and
<v Speaker 2>the motor running and the music, and he said, all
<v Speaker 2>at once, everything went silent. He couldn't hear anything, couldn't
<v Speaker 2>hear his own car, couldn't hear the music, couldn't hear
<v Speaker 2>the crickets. And that's when he saw. Then the craft
<v Speaker 2>had come up behind him, went over his head and
<v Speaker 2>was just heading south and cleared his windshield and he
<v Speaker 2>could see the craft flying over his head. And after
<v Speaker 2>the craft passed his car all at once, he could
<v Speaker 2>hear the engine again, he could hear the radio, and
<v Speaker 2>he could hear the crickets. So I've always wondered after
<v Speaker 2>hearing that, was it truly silent or does it have
<v Speaker 2>like a mute button that it can silence itself. Maybe
<v Speaker 2>it's very noisy, you know, maybe there's a message it's
<v Speaker 2>getting it out, but we can't hear it. I always
<v Speaker 2>wondered about that. I've not talked to anybody else that
<v Speaker 2>had an experience like that, So again a lot of questions,
<v Speaker 2>you know, why did I see lava and other people didn't?
<v Speaker 2>And why did I see a boomerang and most people
<v Speaker 2>saw a V shape. I don't know, but I saw
<v Speaker 2>it about eight thirty and I know later on supposedly
<v Speaker 2>there was a siding with flares or people supposed was
<v Speaker 2>flares around ten o'clock at night. Another friend of mine
<v Speaker 2>lived on the other side of the valley, out in
<v Speaker 2>West Valley, by the Air Force base, and she says
<v Speaker 2>she saw from the craft from a distance, and she
<v Speaker 2>said two jets took off from the Air Force base
<v Speaker 2>and chased it. So I didn't see those, but I
<v Speaker 2>was on the other side of the valley. That was amazing,
<v Speaker 2>absolutely amazing. I think about that probably, you know, five
<v Speaker 2>or ten times a day now for the past twenty
<v Speaker 2>seven years, you know, to be so close, I could
<v Speaker 2>have hit it with a rock. And I found some
<v Speaker 2>old news broadcasts are on YouTube, and there are several
<v Speaker 2>other people. I said, one kid said he could have
<v Speaker 2>hit it with a tennis ball, and other people saying
<v Speaker 2>that it just flew right over rooftop high So the
<v Speaker 2>craft seemed to have cheated its elevation depending upon where
<v Speaker 2>it was. And I've never heard anybody say a bad
<v Speaker 2>thing about having that experience or seeing the Phoenix Lights.
<v Speaker 2>It seems to be either neutral or a positive experience
<v Speaker 2>in everyone's life. So anyway, I'd love to hear more.
<v Speaker 2>I'd love to know who it was. We'll see, We'll see.
<v Speaker 2>Have you ever talked to anybody that saw the Phoenix Lights.
<v Speaker 1>I have not personally, but I've seen videos of them
<v Speaker 1>on YouTube, and it seems like there's a lot of
<v Speaker 1>UFO activity in Arizona for some reason, and I think
<v Speaker 1>that might have something to do with like the underground bases,
<v Speaker 1>or it just could be something from another planet.
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know. Plus also we have really good weather here.
<v Speaker 2>We don't have a whole lot of clouds usually, and
<v Speaker 2>we don't have all those pesky trees, you know, blocking
<v Speaker 2>the view at least. You know, where I am in
<v Speaker 2>the valley in north and south of Phoenix, it's pretty
<v Speaker 2>much desert, so you can go out and just see
<v Speaker 2>horizon to a horizon, So that and who knows what
<v Speaker 2>else is going on out here, And speaking of underground basis,
<v Speaker 2>that's that's my next one. I had quite an interesting
<v Speaker 2>encounter in the desert once probably about this would have
<v Speaker 2>been about twenty ten. And I used to go camping
<v Speaker 2>every week for like nearly fifty years, and in Arizona
<v Speaker 2>it was nice. And you know, when it's hot at night,
<v Speaker 2>you want to go camping up in the mountains, and
<v Speaker 2>then when it's cold, go camping in the desert, so
<v Speaker 2>you can just camp around out here. So I was
<v Speaker 2>camping in a spot in Arizona. I wasn't all that
<v Speaker 2>far from the Navajo Reservation and not all that far
<v Speaker 2>from New Mexico, and it's a spot I had been
<v Speaker 2>in multiple times. It's very flat. There's just something about it.
<v Speaker 2>There's just a good feeling there. And I had gone
<v Speaker 2>there off and on for probably twenty years, never had
<v Speaker 2>a problem, never had anything bizarre happen. And one night
<v Speaker 2>it was it was about two in the morning, and
<v Speaker 2>it was such a huge full moon. I mean, I
<v Speaker 2>could have read by it. It had that much of
<v Speaker 2>a glow. And I'm sitting in my truck and about
<v Speaker 2>four feet behind the tail gate of my truck comes
<v Speaker 2>as being It's about eight feet tall. To me, it
<v Speaker 2>looked like an insect. It could have kind of ant like,
<v Speaker 2>very very thin, walked on two legs, had two arms,
<v Speaker 2>The elbows were very low. It was about around the waist,
<v Speaker 2>so the upper arms were longer than what a humans
<v Speaker 2>would be. Had about a foot long, thin neck that
<v Speaker 2>kind of went forward, and then a huge oval head
<v Speaker 2>and then off the jawline. It looked like a four
<v Speaker 2>foot tube that came to a point. And I couldn't
<v Speaker 2>make out the hands or the feet because I'm looking
<v Speaker 2>at it and the moon's on the other side, so
<v Speaker 2>I'm seeing this thing mostly in silhouette. But you know,
<v Speaker 2>it was bright, incredibly bright, and it was struggling. It
<v Speaker 2>looked like it was walking in water. It looked like
<v Speaker 2>every step that it took took one hundred percent of
<v Speaker 2>its effort, and it struggled to move one leg in
<v Speaker 2>front of the other. And I was walking by my
<v Speaker 2>truck and it's stopped right behind my truck. I'm staring
<v Speaker 2>at it, and this freaky neck turns almost ninety degrees
<v Speaker 2>and it stares at me, and I'm thinking, this is it.
<v Speaker 2>I'm done? You know what do I do? And I
<v Speaker 2>just stared at it and just waited for it to
<v Speaker 2>make a move, and it didn't. It stared at me
<v Speaker 2>for a little bit, and then it turned its head
<v Speaker 2>forward and it continued on very slow, almost painful to
<v Speaker 2>watch it walk. It was such a struggle and got
<v Speaker 2>out of my view and I thought, oh my god,
<v Speaker 2>you know what the heck is this. So I get
<v Speaker 2>in my truck and I take off. I'm out of there,
<v Speaker 2>my camping here falling out of the back of my truck,
<v Speaker 2>and I just got the heck out. So I swore
<v Speaker 2>I would never go back, but then I knew I would.
<v Speaker 2>So it was a couple months later I got the nerve,
<v Speaker 2>I just need to go back. I just need to
<v Speaker 2>revisit this place. And I went back and exactly where
<v Speaker 2>the spot was, and I looked around, and of course
<v Speaker 2>there was nothing, so you know, if there was any tracks,
<v Speaker 2>they were long gone. But it was a nice day
<v Speaker 2>and I kind of went two miles down. It was
<v Speaker 2>a dust road, dirty, there was a dirt road. Then
<v Speaker 2>it turned into a dust road out in the middle
<v Speaker 2>of nowhere. I'm, you know, miles and miles a couple
<v Speaker 2>miles from any nearby town or anything like that. So
<v Speaker 2>I found a place would be nice to park and
<v Speaker 2>just figured out hike around a little bit. And when
<v Speaker 2>I got out of my truck, I heard all of
<v Speaker 2>this massive digging sounds like it sounded like earthly digging,
<v Speaker 2>sounds like diesel engines, maybe about fifteen of them going
<v Speaker 2>at once digging, and like backoes picking up dirt and
<v Speaker 2>earth movers bouncing the little thing trying to get the
<v Speaker 2>dirt out of the shovel and struggling, and trucks backing
<v Speaker 2>up going b B be. But there was absolutely nothing
<v Speaker 2>out there. There was no one. There was no other car.
<v Speaker 2>And in fact, I even got back in my truck
<v Speaker 2>and drove around a bit to think where is all
<v Speaker 2>this coming from? And I went back to that spot
<v Speaker 2>where I heard the digging, and I stopped my truck
<v Speaker 2>and I got out, and I kept hearing it, and It's like, wall,
<v Speaker 2>where is this? And so I get on my hands
<v Speaker 2>and knees and I put my ear to the dirt.
<v Speaker 2>It's like, you know, could it be underground? And it was.
<v Speaker 2>It was very loud. There was massive digging going around
<v Speaker 2>going on under the ground. I thought, well, this is weird.
<v Speaker 2>You know's who's digging out in the middle of nowhere?
<v Speaker 2>And as I stood up, what wasn't there forty five
<v Speaker 2>to sixty seconds prior? It was two huge white trucks
<v Speaker 2>in front of me, pointed towards me, and they were
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know what make they were. They were
<v Speaker 2>very big and they were they glowed almost luminescently the
<v Speaker 2>bumpers and the chrome was so shiny it the reflection
<v Speaker 2>of the sun on it hurt my eyes. The windshield
<v Speaker 2>was onyx black and it did it reflected nothing. And
<v Speaker 2>the white truck, I've never seen a white like that.
<v Speaker 2>It was showroom clean, but it almost glowed. The white
<v Speaker 2>almost glowed. I'm thinking, oh, I'm in trouble. I shouldn't
<v Speaker 2>be hearing what I'm hearing underground, and I better get
<v Speaker 2>out of here. So as I turned to get back
<v Speaker 2>in my truck, I look behind me and there's two
<v Speaker 2>more trucks just like it behind me, pointed towards me,
<v Speaker 2>and thinking, oh my god, you know, yeah, what am
<v Speaker 2>I going to do? So I just, you know, mac nonchalant,
<v Speaker 2>and I get in the truck and I start driving
<v Speaker 2>down the dust road, and I kept looking behind me
<v Speaker 2>to see if they're following me, and they weren't, And
<v Speaker 2>finally get into a paved road and thinking, okay, you know,
<v Speaker 2>everything's going to be all right. And as they get there,
<v Speaker 2>there's two more trucks waiting for me, one pointing north
<v Speaker 2>and one pointing south. So whichever way I turned on
<v Speaker 2>the paved road, there would be one the truck either
<v Speaker 2>to pull in front of me or pull behind me.
<v Speaker 2>So I ended up going south, and as I did,
<v Speaker 2>the truck pointed south took off right after me, and
<v Speaker 2>the other truck turned around and was right behind that truck.
<v Speaker 2>And I was heading down the road, a two lane road.
<v Speaker 2>I was going ninety miles an hour, and one of
<v Speaker 2>the trucks was trying to pass me. The other was
<v Speaker 2>right on my bumper, and I'm swerving back and forth
<v Speaker 2>because I thought if the one, you know, comes upside
<v Speaker 2>to the side of me, they would they could push
<v Speaker 2>me off the road and I could wreck. I'm you know,
<v Speaker 2>looking in the review mirror and looking in the side
<v Speaker 2>mirror and trying to drive between two lanes and keep
<v Speaker 2>the one behind me behind me, and they keep the
<v Speaker 2>other from passing me. And I noticed there must have
<v Speaker 2>been a lot of bugs out there, because there's like,
<v Speaker 2>you know, splats of orange and yellow bugs. I'm probably
<v Speaker 2>hitting crickets or grasshoppers or something like that all over
<v Speaker 2>my window. I'm hitting a lot of bugs. But when
<v Speaker 2>I look in the rearview mirror and I look in
<v Speaker 2>the side mirror, they're not hitting a single bug. Their
<v Speaker 2>windshields are absolutely dust free, dirt free, bug free. There
<v Speaker 2>wasn't a spot of bug on their windshield. And you know,
<v Speaker 2>I've got probably three hundred bugs I snacked or something,
<v Speaker 2>you know, a couple hundred bugs on my windshield and
<v Speaker 2>there they're not getting any And as the one truck
<v Speaker 2>is trying to pass me, I look down at the
<v Speaker 2>time and you know, if you're in the desert for
<v Speaker 2>a minute, you're covered in dust. There was not one
<v Speaker 2>bit of dust on the tire. There was not a
<v Speaker 2>bug on that front of the truck. I couldn't see
<v Speaker 2>anybody inside. The windows were absolutely one or percent black.
<v Speaker 2>I don't recall hearing their motor either. Of course, my
<v Speaker 2>little Toyota is just, you know, doing everything it can
<v Speaker 2>trying to outrun these trucks. But they almost glowed. They
<v Speaker 2>were beyond showroom clean, and they almost looked like cartoons.
<v Speaker 2>They almost they were illuminated. There was something not real
<v Speaker 2>about them, but they looked real. And I'm driving and
<v Speaker 2>driving probably about ten minutes. There was a turn off
<v Speaker 2>to an old abandoned house, and I thought, well, maybe
<v Speaker 2>if I pull in there they think that's where I leave,
<v Speaker 2>then they'll leave me alone. And as I start to
<v Speaker 2>pull in there, they slowed down at the same time,
<v Speaker 2>and together they made a U turn and went back.
<v Speaker 2>So as I never went back. I have never been
<v Speaker 2>back in all these years, and I've just recently decided
<v Speaker 2>I need to go back. You know, I'm old, my
<v Speaker 2>health is failing. What are they going to do? And
<v Speaker 2>I want to go back and take some pictures and
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what's going on there, but something's going
<v Speaker 2>on underground in the desert. Was it? Is it human?
<v Speaker 2>Is it something by the government for national defense? Because
<v Speaker 2>the sound sounded completely one or percent human machinery. It
<v Speaker 2>didn't sound like rayguns or anything. But at the same time,
<v Speaker 2>those trucks just did not look natural. And then what
<v Speaker 2>was that eight foot in like the you know, about
<v Speaker 2>two miles from where I heard the digging sounds? So
<v Speaker 2>is it alien? The human? Is it alien? Is it?
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what There's got to be a connection
<v Speaker 2>between it, and why would they chase me and not
<v Speaker 2>an eight foot ant? I don't know. I just have
<v Speaker 2>too many questions. I don't know what it was. But
<v Speaker 2>by the time I got home, I was sure that
<v Speaker 2>there was going to be, you know, trucks, there's white
<v Speaker 2>trucks in front of my house. It'd be a bullet
<v Speaker 2>or something, and there wasn't. And I've had no repercussion
<v Speaker 2>after that. No one's trying to threaten me, no one's
<v Speaker 2>asked me questions. I don't know. And I kept my
<v Speaker 2>mouth shut quite a while on that, and then finally
<v Speaker 2>came forward about it. Because something's going on underground. People say,
<v Speaker 2>look to the skies. I say, look underneath your feet.
<v Speaker 2>There's who knows what's going on under there. So that
<v Speaker 2>was my camping strip, one of my two camping stories.
<v Speaker 2>Have you ever heard anything about that or have anybody
<v Speaker 2>describing a being like that?
<v Speaker 1>No? I haven't, and that's very interesting. It makes me
<v Speaker 1>wonder if the cryptid creatures that people are seeing possibly
<v Speaker 1>come from underground. And it seems like there's an entire
<v Speaker 1>network down there and something dark and deep going on.
<v Speaker 2>Some of the natives out here, I know the Hopie
<v Speaker 2>have you know, the ant people, but they tend to
<v Speaker 2>be small, like a foot tall from the stories that
<v Speaker 2>they tell. This thing at eight feet at least. And
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what the long tube was, If that
<v Speaker 2>was part of its face, Was that a part of
<v Speaker 2>what it's wearing. I don't know. And is it normally
<v Speaker 2>walking like that, because you know, being on Earth or something,
<v Speaker 2>it's it's a struggle to move or was it wounded?
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. That was a It was terrifying at
<v Speaker 2>the time, and now I'm just I'm more and more curious.
<v Speaker 2>So I decided, you know, I take my little cell
<v Speaker 2>phone and I'm going to run back there and just see,
<v Speaker 2>you know, hopefully, hopefully I don't Hopefully I don't regret it.
<v Speaker 2>But one other time on a camping trip, and I
<v Speaker 2>was not too far from where this happened, and I
<v Speaker 2>was going to meet some friends around six o'clock in
<v Speaker 2>the morning. At the time, I was working night shift,
<v Speaker 2>so I'm wide awake at night and I go to
<v Speaker 2>the site where we're going to meet and for the
<v Speaker 2>hike in the morning. I'm probably there about three or
<v Speaker 2>four in the morning, and I figured I just, you know,
<v Speaker 2>maybe get a couple hours sleeping in my truck. And
<v Speaker 2>there was a big parking lot. And as I was
<v Speaker 2>driving through the parking lot and probably driving a little
<v Speaker 2>too fast, and I get to the spot and I've
<v Speaker 2>been there many many times, and I turn around and
<v Speaker 2>back into the parking spot. So the my bright headlights
<v Speaker 2>are shining on the other side of this there's parking
<v Speaker 2>on either side of it's like a little road, and
<v Speaker 2>the bright lights shine on three beans standing there. They
<v Speaker 2>look like they're in spacesuits. They look like gingerbread men.
<v Speaker 2>That's the shape. They were kind of pudgy, they were plump.
<v Speaker 2>They were like an off silver maybe slightly reflective, and
<v Speaker 2>it looks like they had little indentations all over their
<v Speaker 2>outfits that they were wearing. There was a tall one
<v Speaker 2>about five and a half feet tall, and then in
<v Speaker 2>front of it was two smaller ones, maybe about three
<v Speaker 2>or three and a half feet tall. They looked identical
<v Speaker 2>except for the shape, and everything was smooth with slight
<v Speaker 2>pitting from head to toe. They had shoulders, they had arms.
<v Speaker 2>They were human looking except in these silver suits. And
<v Speaker 2>over where the eye and the face would be was
<v Speaker 2>like the size of an envelope, a rectangle, and it
<v Speaker 2>had a slight indentation and then something going around like
<v Speaker 2>a frame, and it looked woven like a a brick
<v Speaker 2>of ramen noodles. So I couldn't see what was going on.
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't see any eyes or any face. It was
<v Speaker 2>just the outfits that I was able to see. I
<v Speaker 2>saw no craft, and I'm sitting there in my truck
<v Speaker 2>with my bright shining on them. They're probably about twenty
<v Speaker 2>feet ahead of me, and they're standing there staring at me.
<v Speaker 2>So we're just having a stare down. And after maybe
<v Speaker 2>about thirty forty seconds or something like that, in Unison,
<v Speaker 2>the two smaller ones turned to the right and start
<v Speaker 2>to walk off. The bigger one just stood there and
<v Speaker 2>stared at me. And when the small ones turned, instead
<v Speaker 2>of looking plump, now they look about half an inch thick,
<v Speaker 2>so they look like stick figures. And as they walked off,
<v Speaker 2>they looked like stick figures like a cartoon would and
<v Speaker 2>to walk away. And that's just that, I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>That scared me. And I put the car my truck
<v Speaker 2>in forward, and I took off and I left the
<v Speaker 2>parking lot, and I kept thinking I should stop and
<v Speaker 2>say if there's a craft, and I thought, no, you know, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>they didn't attack me either're kind of letting me go.
<v Speaker 2>They they didn't threaten me, but they weren't welcoming, and
<v Speaker 2>I just ended up going back home. I just abandoned
<v Speaker 2>my friends for the morning hike and just got the
<v Speaker 2>heck out of there. But had they been standing sideways? Well?
<v Speaker 2>When I drove into the parking spot, I came from
<v Speaker 2>behind them. I was on the right side of them
<v Speaker 2>as I drove by, and then I turned around and
<v Speaker 2>parked in front of them with my brights on them,
<v Speaker 2>So maybe they didn't have a chance to turn sideways
<v Speaker 2>when I when I pulled into the parking spot, because
<v Speaker 2>if they had been sideways and all of them looked
<v Speaker 2>half an inch thick, they would have just blended right
<v Speaker 2>in with the brush and the shrub in the desert.
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't have noticed them at all. So I wonder,
<v Speaker 2>is that a camouflage technique that they have, being able
<v Speaker 2>to turn sideways. I talked to someone else and she
<v Speaker 2>said she heard from a senator US senator about forty
<v Speaker 2>years ago that had an encounter and said it was
<v Speaker 2>exactly the same thing. The same thing happened to him,
<v Speaker 2>and when they turned sideways, they were just a fraction
<v Speaker 2>of an inch wide. So was it something that the
<v Speaker 2>spacesuit did? I mean, I don't know if it's spacesuit.
<v Speaker 2>It was they were wearing something. I don't know if
<v Speaker 2>they're from space or what, but it was just I
<v Speaker 2>didn't hang around to see if there was a craft,
<v Speaker 2>and I went back there to take some pictures. I
<v Speaker 2>did report that to move on, and I went back
<v Speaker 2>and took pictures of where they stood, and of course,
<v Speaker 2>you know, I didn't see anything. I don't know what happened.
<v Speaker 2>So those are my four my my one UFO story,
<v Speaker 2>and my three encounters with non human and it was interesting.
<v Speaker 2>My grandmother, my grandmother, and her brother. My grandmother was
<v Speaker 2>born in eighteen eighty nine, and she and her brother
<v Speaker 2>and several other of the old time people in the
<v Speaker 2>hollow where we live would talk about seeing little people
<v Speaker 2>in southern Ohio and they would be wearing clothes from
<v Speaker 2>the seventeenth century, and they would see them like a
<v Speaker 2>foot tall, around in the corner in the woods, and
<v Speaker 2>they would talk about it. They had all seen as
<v Speaker 2>I never did see them, but it was so real
<v Speaker 2>to them, and they would warn me, you know, if
<v Speaker 2>I was ever out in the woods or something and
<v Speaker 2>sol of them, you know, just take my look, but
<v Speaker 2>don't approach him and don't talk to them. And I
<v Speaker 2>never did, so I was wondering what was that. I
<v Speaker 2>don't know. But my grandfather, or my dad's father, he
<v Speaker 2>reported a UFO in the local newspaper in nineteen nineteen
<v Speaker 2>and it was in northern Ohio, and when I was
<v Speaker 2>a kid, we'd go visit him and he had it
<v Speaker 2>cut out and it was in a scrap book and
<v Speaker 2>he saw a cigar shaped craft flying right over the houses,
<v Speaker 2>right over the tree tops, and after a while it
<v Speaker 2>just kind of meandered over the town and then it
<v Speaker 2>took off in a zip and it was gone. And
<v Speaker 2>he was a high school principal at the time, and
<v Speaker 2>you know, he was a well respected person. And I
<v Speaker 2>would love to find the old newspaper somewhere and find
<v Speaker 2>that clipping. But his son. My dad was in the
<v Speaker 2>military from nineteen forty five to either nineteen fifty two
<v Speaker 2>or fifty three. And in nineteen sixty five, we were
<v Speaker 2>my dad was driving, my mom was in the front seat,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm in the back seat, and We're going by
<v Speaker 2>right Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio. At that time,
<v Speaker 2>we had to live kind of close to there. And
<v Speaker 2>I'm in the backseat, you know, reading a comic book,
<v Speaker 2>and my dad points out a building to my mom
<v Speaker 2>and says, that's where we stored the flying saucers and
<v Speaker 2>the alien bodies. And he went on to describe them
<v Speaker 2>the craft, described the bodies, and described the room. The
<v Speaker 2>room was built in a special way that you wouldn't
<v Speaker 2>notice that space was was being missed. And he's telling her,
<v Speaker 2>you know, this is where it is and this is
<v Speaker 2>what happened. And I peep up and say, I want
<v Speaker 2>to see the flying saucer, and my dad didn't realize
<v Speaker 2>that I was listening and quickly changed the subject. He said,
<v Speaker 2>only special people get to see that. Let's go get
<v Speaker 2>ice cream, and you know, of course I was all
<v Speaker 2>for that. But over the years, my dad went out
<v Speaker 2>asked me, do you believe in flying saucers? Do you
<v Speaker 2>believe in UFOs? You know, I don't know. I didn't
<v Speaker 2>really care, and I would ask him, you know, what
<v Speaker 2>do you think and he would always say, oh, they're
<v Speaker 2>out there. And I wish I had pushed for more information.
<v Speaker 2>I really wasn't into it. I really didn't care, but
<v Speaker 2>I could tell he wanted. I think he was trying
<v Speaker 2>to get me to ask that he could tell whatever happened,
<v Speaker 2>maybe in the military, whatever it is that he had
<v Speaker 2>to do. So that was a big missed opportunity. And
<v Speaker 2>he died before all the roswell stuff kind of resurfaced
<v Speaker 2>in the late seventies and the early eighties. It became
<v Speaker 2>a hot topic back then. And I know my dad
<v Speaker 2>during the war was in for a while at least
<v Speaker 2>in New Mexico, because he used to talk about being there.
<v Speaker 2>So I wondered, did he have something to do with
<v Speaker 2>Roswell or the Kingman Crash, and there was a crash
<v Speaker 2>up there, And in nineteen seventy seven I got to
<v Speaker 2>go to the king some natives at the I think
<v Speaker 2>it was fifty two or fifty three, something like that
<v Speaker 2>when the crash happened. They had seen it, and years
<v Speaker 2>later they had told their children where it was. And
<v Speaker 2>years later a friend of mine who was a very
<v Speaker 2>much into Native American culture and became friends with them.
<v Speaker 2>They said, you know, we'll show you where our fathers.
<v Speaker 2>They took us here and showed us where the crash was.
<v Speaker 2>So we took the hike and went up there. I
<v Speaker 2>just went for a hike. I really couldn't care less,
<v Speaker 2>but it was quite a track and you could see
<v Speaker 2>where something had fallen into the side of the mountain,
<v Speaker 2>into the rock. And according to them, there was five craft.
<v Speaker 2>They crashed in Kingman, and then one made it farther
<v Speaker 2>south and crash somewhere else. But their fathers had seen
<v Speaker 2>the military come and get the craft, but among great
<v Speaker 2>big trucks and take them back to Nevada. So, you know, unfortunately,
<v Speaker 2>I think that government really learned how to cover up
<v Speaker 2>stuff by then. So who knows who knows. That was exciting.
<v Speaker 2>But after the Phoenix lights, that's when I became interested
<v Speaker 2>in UFOs, and then the things that I saw in
<v Speaker 2>the desert, those two beings, and then this thing as
<v Speaker 2>a child, oh whatever that was. I've certainly been paying
<v Speaker 2>attention more and more into what other people are seeing,
<v Speaker 2>and I think so. I think my number one interest
<v Speaker 2>is I want to know answers to what I saw.
<v Speaker 2>I know a lot of people, you guys in the Bigfoot,
<v Speaker 2>and I've never seen Bigfoot. Is it related to these things?
<v Speaker 2>Is everything related? Are they connected? I don't know. I
<v Speaker 2>think everything is just supposition. You must be the expert,
<v Speaker 2>you tell me.
<v Speaker 1>I'm no expert, but I wonder myself what exactly could
<v Speaker 1>be going on. And I theorized there could be a
<v Speaker 1>connection with Sasquatch and the aliens and UFOs, but I
<v Speaker 1>haven't found any evidence of that other than just hearing
<v Speaker 1>people's accounts about them having like a human hybrid program.
<v Speaker 1>And that's the only thing that really leads me to
<v Speaker 1>believe that possibly these crypti creatures could be like an
<v Speaker 1>offspring of humans and aliens inter breeding. But other than that, no,
<v Speaker 1>I'm no professional, and I'm just really trying to figure
<v Speaker 1>out the truth, just like anyone else.
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of supposition in this. I mean, so
<v Speaker 2>many people have a belief and I don't. For whatever reason,
<v Speaker 2>it makes sense to them, and they'll say, you know
<v Speaker 2>that there's hybrids and all that stuff, But do we know?
<v Speaker 2>I mean what I would again, I would rather be
<v Speaker 2>in the dark than to believe the wrong thing. And
<v Speaker 2>I wonder if anybody really does know? Does the government know?
<v Speaker 2>Is a government in control? Are they in control of
<v Speaker 2>the government? Is there really really a good reason that
<v Speaker 2>the government wants to keep silent about this? Maybe there
<v Speaker 2>truly is something awful going on that we are being protected,
<v Speaker 2>or is it something wonderful and they just want to
<v Speaker 2>keep it to themselves. I don't know, but I do
<v Speaker 2>believe the government knows a lot more than than what
<v Speaker 2>they're sharing. And it's just why you know what's going on?
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I have I have a I guess
<v Speaker 2>I could share. It didn't happen to me, it happened
<v Speaker 2>two a co worker of mine. And if you don't mind,
<v Speaker 2>I'll just go ahead and tell it and just get
<v Speaker 2>it out there. I'm seventy. My health is failing I'm
<v Speaker 2>not going to be around a whole lot more, and
<v Speaker 2>I certainly don't want to have this stuff lost and
<v Speaker 2>not get to share it. Years ago, I worked in
<v Speaker 2>a facility. It was hospice. Everybody was dying, and we
<v Speaker 2>had this nurse that came down from Denver, Colorado. And
<v Speaker 2>this would have been about nineteen ninety, so she was
<v Speaker 2>in Colorado in the late nineteen eighties and she was
<v Speaker 2>living with her boyfriend up there, and she was a nurse,
<v Speaker 2>and he was doing some sort of construction stuff and
<v Speaker 2>he came home from work just freaking out and said, Oh,
<v Speaker 2>I'm in so much trouble. I don't know what to do.
<v Speaker 2>And he said that he was working underground. And he
<v Speaker 2>was working underground where I don't know if it was
<v Speaker 2>at the time where the Denver Airport used to be
<v Speaker 2>or where the Denver Airport is now, but he was
<v Speaker 2>working several levels underground, and somehow he got lost or
<v Speaker 2>or just you know, was scoping out the place and
<v Speaker 2>went down to areas where he wasn't allowed to go,
<v Speaker 2>and he ended up in this huge hallway and they
<v Speaker 2>had huge doors, and he said he could barely reach
<v Speaker 2>the door handles because they were so high up in
<v Speaker 2>the air. The doors were so big. I thought, well,
<v Speaker 2>this is odd, you know, why would they build something
<v Speaker 2>so big? And it was door after door after door.
<v Speaker 2>They were very, very large, and the hallways were tall
<v Speaker 2>and wide. Well, one of the doors was open and
<v Speaker 2>it was a thick door, and he went in and
<v Speaker 2>it was a restroom, just like a normal everyday restroom,
<v Speaker 2>but it was giant, and there was like six or
<v Speaker 2>seven stalls with huge toilets. He said, the toilet was
<v Speaker 2>so big it was like eye level to him the
<v Speaker 2>seed of the toilet would be, but it looked ceramic,
<v Speaker 2>like what regular toilets would look like. There was a
<v Speaker 2>sink with fawcet, a giant fawcet. There was no mirror
<v Speaker 2>in front of the sink. There was no urinals. It
<v Speaker 2>was just toilets and a sink. And he was looking around,
<v Speaker 2>say why is this so big? And pretty soon here
<v Speaker 2>comes security and they're yelling at him and grabbing You're
<v Speaker 2>not supposed to be here, get out, get back to
<v Speaker 2>where you're supposed to be, and they escorted him back.
<v Speaker 2>He got in a lot of trouble, so he went
<v Speaker 2>home that night. She came home a little bit later
<v Speaker 2>and they talked about this, and he was really really scared.
<v Speaker 2>You know, what's going on? Why is there giant toilets
<v Speaker 2>under underground mile you know, level several levels underground. So anyway,
<v Speaker 2>the next day she had to go to work before
<v Speaker 2>he did, and he went later. When she got home
<v Speaker 2>at night, his his She gets in the house. His
<v Speaker 2>keys are still in the house, His dog's there, his clothes,
<v Speaker 2>everything's there. But he's not there, and his jeep's gone,
<v Speaker 2>and you know, finally she thought, you know, maybe he
<v Speaker 2>just went somewhere. Well, finally, he never showed up that night,
<v Speaker 2>didn't show up the next day, didn't show up the
<v Speaker 2>next day. So she's calling friends and family, calls the
<v Speaker 2>police missing persons, and they find his jeep out way
<v Speaker 2>out of town, abandoned. But it's just weird because his
<v Speaker 2>car keys are still in the apartment. She waited for
<v Speaker 2>a year hoping he'd come back, never heard a word.
<v Speaker 2>So he disappeared the night after he saw the giant restroom.
<v Speaker 2>And after a year then she finally came down to
<v Speaker 2>Arizona and just started her life over again. So you know,
<v Speaker 2>that's third hand, But she would tell me this again
<v Speaker 2>and again and again she would have like PTSD reaction
<v Speaker 2>talking about it. It just frightened her so much. And
<v Speaker 2>I just wonder, you know, what was that about? Why?
<v Speaker 2>You know, are there giants underground there? You know? Are
<v Speaker 2>all these tunnels connected? And I've heard about the tunnels
<v Speaker 2>in New Mexico, you know it were they digging tunnels
<v Speaker 2>where I heard? Is it? Is it all connected together?
<v Speaker 2>I don't know who's under there. I don't know. I
<v Speaker 2>don't know.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's hard to say, and hopefully we find out
<v Speaker 1>one day in the future, but I doubt we ever will,
<v Speaker 1>and I think it's going to remain a mystery, but
<v Speaker 1>we have to keep an open mind that possibly it's
<v Speaker 1>connected to all the strange activity that people are experiencing
<v Speaker 1>on planet Earth. But yeah, David, I appreciate you for
<v Speaker 1>sharing your experiences and your encounters with me. And we're
<v Speaker 1>getting towards the end. But yeah, you did a great job,
<v Speaker 1>and I really appreciate your time today.
<v Speaker 2>Great, Thank you so much the pleasure of talking to you.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thank you, And if you ever experience anything else,
<v Speaker 1>feel free to contact me.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, sounds good, all right, You take care, good day,
<v Speaker 2>Yeah you too, Okay.
<v Speaker 1>All right, David, thank you very much for sharing your
<v Speaker 1>experiences with me, and I believe you there are things
<v Speaker 1>out there on this planet that we just do not understand,
<v Speaker 1>and maybe they do come from another planet, or possibly
<v Speaker 1>they're coming from underground, or maybe both. But the story
<v Speaker 1>about the stuff Bunny talking to you, that was a
<v Speaker 1>little bizarre, and I'm not discounting it, but it's just
<v Speaker 1>out there, and I believe that it is demonic activity
<v Speaker 1>because demons can possess people, animals, and even objects. So
<v Speaker 1>I think that is something evil and I'm glad you
<v Speaker 1>didn't follow it. I'm glad you didn't listen to it
<v Speaker 1>because you possibly would have went missing and you would
<v Speaker 1>have never been seen again. So yeah, your instincts kicked
<v Speaker 1>in and you avoided the situation and got out of it.
<v Speaker 1>It's really hard just to figure out what Bigfoot is,
<v Speaker 1>so when you try to add UFOs, aliens and the paranormal,
<v Speaker 1>things really get jumbled up and confusing. As if Bigfoot
<v Speaker 1>is not confusing enough, we start theorizing on other things
<v Speaker 1>that are unknown, and it really leads us down other
<v Speaker 1>rabbit holes and confuses us even more. So I like
<v Speaker 1>to look for physical evidence, such as tracks, hairs, and
<v Speaker 1>I want to capture these creatures on film, Like it'd
<v Speaker 1>be really cool if they came back to the property
<v Speaker 1>and showed themselves to me and I could film it,
<v Speaker 1>and then we'd have another Patterson Gimmelin film two point
<v Speaker 1>zero out there for the people to see. And I
<v Speaker 1>think that would be good enough. I mean, it would
<v Speaker 1>never prove the subject, but it would add on to
<v Speaker 1>the pile of evidence that's out there for the people
<v Speaker 1>to see, and it would just add to more home speculation.
<v Speaker 1>The skeptics would have more food for thought, and it
<v Speaker 1>would just never be proven unless you have a body.
<v Speaker 1>But even then would it be proof. I don't know.
<v Speaker 1>But I appreciate everyone for listening today, and if you
<v Speaker 1>have a cryptid or bigfoot encounter you'd like to share
<v Speaker 1>with me, please contact me at Sasquatch Theory at outlook
<v Speaker 1>dot com. And I appreciate everyone for listening. Take care
<v Speaker 1>and be safe out there in the forest.