High School Musical 3: Senior Year
We’re all in this together… one last time! Will and Sabrina are watching the final film in the High School Musical franchise, starring Zac Efron, Vanessa Hudgens, Ashley Tisdale and Corbin Bleu.
This film was released in theaters in 2008.
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2026-04-07
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00:00:14 Speaker 1: Sabrina, do you remember your senior year in high school? 00:00:17 Speaker 2: Oh? Like every single. 00:00:20 Speaker 1: Aspect, Oh my god. 00:00:21 Speaker 2: So it was great then, amazing, amazing. 00:00:24 Speaker 3: You're one of those, you're one of those. You're one of those people who loved high school. 00:00:28 Speaker 2: You know what though, what was awesome was for me that was right before I booked The Cheetah Girls. That year i booked, I was working so much, too so and like living the dream of being like in high school on the song team. Like I I mean really was going I can do it all, Like I am doing high school and regular stuff and I'm having like a career because I also had like three pilots, and although none of those got picked up, like it was still like I just was constantly working and things were just it felt like all of the work that I had done leading up to that senior year was like an ability of like you know, like I had to actually miss part of my national competition because I was filming Bold and the Beautiful and like it was just it was just like very memorable for me because it was like big and then it was like kind of let down after letdown, you know, you do pilot doesn't get picked up, then the Cheetah Girls audition came and I auditioned for all of the roles and then kind of didn't hear anything because they were auditioning so many and then towards the end of that summer is when the ball started rolling and the Cheetah Girls happened. So I had a really Yeah, it's like a really reflective year for me. You know, it was like it was it's very cool to think of, what about you, How is your senior year where you know what's on set? Because you know, I know you didn't have prom. 00:01:53 Speaker 3: No, it's kind of exactly the same thing you said. Where my first year at boyt mes World was was my senior year? Okay, I missed ninety percent of my senior year, and thank god, because I hated high school. I hate I hated everything about it. I hated everything about it. 00:02:08 Speaker 2: I so came home my freshman year crying almost every day because I wanted to be auditioning more and all my friends that were doing homeschool were getting all these big jobs and these big opportunities, and I felt like I was missing it because I just couldn't get out of school as much as they could. And you know, they were doing homeschool, And it wasn't until I found the song team the dance team that I like ended up being on my sophomore year that I was interested in high school at all. And then that changed the game because it got me involved in this school, which I think is so huge. When you're kind of just a kind of a commuter kid, you know, like you just go to school, it's a job, you get it done, you leave, it doesn't have that same effect on like being a part of you know what the school is like a big community and like working towards you know, all the high school memories. It's it's definitely a different experience. 00:03:00 Speaker 1: Yeah, we didn't have a song team. 00:03:02 Speaker 2: Try out for. 00:03:05 Speaker 3: Four year leaders in our whole school. Oh, nobody went to the sporting events. 00:03:09 Speaker 2: Small school. 00:03:10 Speaker 1: Yeah, there was like four hundred and fifty kids in my whole school. 00:03:12 Speaker 2: Oh yeah that's my graduation kids. 00:03:15 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:03:16 Speaker 2: Oh wow. 00:03:16 Speaker 1: No, we were known for we were really really good. 00:03:18 Speaker 3: Our school was actually like repeatingly the state champs in soccer and wrestling were very good. 00:03:25 Speaker 2: Wrestling team, so were the soccer games like Big Metal. But still people didn't go and support. 00:03:30 Speaker 1: Nobody went to those nobody went. 00:03:31 Speaker 3: I think I went to one dance one time, and there's nobody there, Like nobody went and did any of that stuff. 00:03:36 Speaker 2: Wow. 00:03:37 Speaker 3: And these are also when you're from a very small town, especially like where I am. Usually a bunch of little small towns get together and all filter there's their kids into one school. We were just from our small town in Connecticut. But the kids you graduated in high school with were the same forty five eighty kids whatever you've known since the second grade, right, Yeah, So it was like if you had beef in third grade, it was still there. 00:03:58 Speaker 2: But it was still as you're graduating high school, you're flipping each other. 00:04:02 Speaker 3: You guys didn't like each other when you were twelve, you didn't like each other when you were eighteen. 00:04:06 Speaker 1: So yeah, it was That's a. 00:04:08 Speaker 2: Good point because my school was like when you got to junior high, it was a few elementary schools that joined together to make the junior high, and then high school was like three or four junior highs that made the high school. 00:04:20 Speaker 1: So if that. 00:04:21 Speaker 2: Happened, like if you had a falling out or just became different from the school, the kids that you grew up in the like elementary school just because that's what's life. Yeah, yeah, you couldn't, and you could kind of find another group of friends from like just your homeroom. You know what I mean? That you meet who sits in the desk next to you, and then that takes. 00:04:40 Speaker 1: Off you California kids. 00:04:41 Speaker 3: Every time I drive by a school out here and I see kids walking outside to go to class, I'm likeugh, we had one big building because it's like snow and weather. Yeah. So my wife whenever I talked to Susan about that, and she. 00:04:52 Speaker 1: Went to school in Mission Vieyo, She's like, yeah, and then. 00:04:53 Speaker 3: You walk outside, you sit on the quad and eat your things out. Oh my god, we were we literally a friend of mine I got a detention for taking an apple out of the cafeteria and eating it in the hallway. Wow. 00:05:05 Speaker 2: So did you ever on the flip side for the very few days that it rains, like all hell breaks loose because like, where are you gonna eat lunch? Now you're eating and you just you feel like you're sopping wet because you had to walk through the rain and now you're like with your food and then you're like sitting in a hallway where there's nowhere to sit. 00:05:21 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, poor poor California kids. 00:05:25 Speaker 2: That's true. That's the opposite of it. 00:05:26 Speaker 1: Like where do we go. 00:05:28 Speaker 2: There's no seating inside to eat. You're literally wake. 00:05:31 Speaker 3: Up in the morning with seven inches of snow on the ground. And they delay the school by a half an hour. So if it. 00:05:37 Speaker 2: Gets delayed, does it get extended. 00:05:39 Speaker 1: No, it's just a shorter school day. 00:05:41 Speaker 3: You almost want delay more than you want cancelation, because if you get a cancelation, they tack it on to the end of the year. Right, So there's times it's like if you had a seriously bad winter, it's like July something by the time you get. 00:05:51 Speaker 1: Out of school. 00:05:52 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's it wasn't good anyway, you know it is good. It is breaking into random song in the middle of high school, which my friends and I used to do all the time. 00:05:59 Speaker 1: Which is what this I brought it right back there we go. 00:06:03 Speaker 3: Welcome back to Magical Rewind, the show that makes you want to grab your friends, your pjs and your popcorn and go back to a time when all the houses are smart, the waves tsunamis, and the rooms spinned around while you try to sing Troy Bolton. Yes, the high schools are musicals Senior year. Yes, oh man, we're back. 00:06:20 Speaker 1: Yes, so class is back in session and graduations. 00:06:23 Speaker 3: Here we are recapping the third film in the Massive Disney trilogy. 00:06:26 Speaker 1: But if the recent rumors are true, maybe it's not the last. 00:06:34 Speaker 3: I want to call it High School Musical four after the Apocalypse. 00:06:37 Speaker 1: It's the remaining members that are still alive. 00:06:40 Speaker 2: I haven't even heard about well, Zach. 00:06:43 Speaker 3: Zach Efron has said in interviews. A number of them have said in interviews, which is always how it starts, they would be quote unquote open to another doing another one. So I mean, when you start hearing that and then the the you know, people like our producers start buzzing and camping outside people's houses, you never. 00:06:59 Speaker 1: Know what's gonna happen. So, yes, this is. 00:07:02 Speaker 3: Two thousand and eight High School Musical three, Senior Year. 00:07:05 Speaker 1: This time it's Personal Times. 00:07:06 Speaker 3: Three, the threequel theatrically. Try saying that debuted in the US on October twenty four, two thousand and eight. That's right, a rare theater d com and the first high school musical to be released this way. But if you're gonna do anything for the channel, this was the risk to take. I mean, this is the movie. To say this movie was highly anticipated would be a wild understatement. It would gross ninety point five million dollars in the first three days, setting a new record for the largest opening weekend for a musical ever. That record will eventually be broken in twenty twelve. Can you guess what movie? No, I don't speak, don't speak German, but I think it's called Less Miserables. 00:07:46 Speaker 1: It's actually fanch lays Lames is the one that be Wow. 00:07:49 Speaker 2: Okay, wow gee? I mean to go against iconic l miss Yeah. 00:07:55 Speaker 1: Gets lay Miss exactly. It's like you know what beat zombies too, Phantom Opera? Yeah, exactly, exact. Yeah, that's crazy. 00:08:03 Speaker 3: Okay, So wait for these numbers, because when all was said and done, High School Musical three or HSM three, grossed two hundred and fifty two point nine million dollars worldwide, which is a staggering number for any type of. 00:08:15 Speaker 1: Movie at this time. 00:08:17 Speaker 3: High School Musical two may have set the record for the most viewers on the channel, a record that will hold until the end of time. But the third film really up the ante and show that the franchise was a brand all on its own and when it did eventually premer the Disney Channel, the first showing still brought in four million viewers. Crazy Production once again returned to Utah to film over forty one days, especially after the state gave Disney a two million dollar tax break, which is the largest they'd ever given to a movie. They used familiar locations that we love to see. It was like being back in school, I shudder, like East High School and the Murray High School, and would film some pickup shots back home in Los Angeles. It should come as absolutely no surprise that the third film started prepping the day after High School Musical's massive premiere, especially since in perfect Disney fas, all the stars were signed to complete a trilogy. But that didn't stop some rumblings about pay and if you're making two hundred and fifty million dollars in the movie, rightfully so. Efron apparently was still offered three million dollars to star and senior year, but was allegedly asking for five million behind the scenes. And the same thing happened to you and Cheeter Girls three rights exactly. 00:09:23 Speaker 1: That's not how it work. 00:09:25 Speaker 3: Now, you might be asking, why did High School Musical three premiere during Halloween Week, and I would say, hey, good. 00:09:31 Speaker 2: Question, great question. 00:09:33 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:09:33 Speaker 3: Well, the movie was originally titled Haunted High School Musical and was going to be a spooky themed kind of musical thing, but that idea was tossed out for a more traditional approach to close out the series. Sabrina, would you have liked to see a Halloween School Musical? 00:09:47 Speaker 2: No? No, no, I mean unless they're going for and this was for the fans, Let's be honest. The third movie was for the fans. If they were gonna go for like a little like an actual dcom. Not that was going to be in the theater, right, and they were gonna do kind of like a fun version, and it was going to actually be an entire like mystery, and you know whatever, Maybe I could go for it. It makes sense, but I don't know supposed to be. 00:10:20 Speaker 3: I honestly see something like Halloween High School Musical as being the movie that comes between two and three and stars like Sharpey and a couple of the offshoots. Yes, and do that for kind of more of the money, but that would be That would have been the way to do it. But not you not with this you're treating together that could have worked. 00:10:40 Speaker 1: You're already writing the lyrics. 00:10:42 Speaker 2: No, yeah, no, but this that's not what this third movie was. This third movie was like honoring the fans of how much they loved these characters, the storylines, the relationships and everything Kenny Artega trying to write with them. 00:11:00 Speaker 3: Also, I'm betting most of our audience forgot this. But Vanessa hudgens future at the Channel was in a little bit of limbo after the second film when racy photographs air appeared online, but she obviously ended up in the film, and Disney would eventually release a statement saying they hope Vanessa quote learned a valuable lesson which any kid hears that, And it sounds like they weren't mad. They were disappointed, which is even worse when Daddy Disney's disappointed. 00:11:21 Speaker 2: It's like Teddy Disney. 00:11:23 Speaker 3: Yes, now we can finally clear this rumor up. I hope Okay magazine at the time reported that the studio was contemplating replacing Hudgens with well Adrian by Loan or Sabrina Brian. 00:11:37 Speaker 1: From The Cheetah Girls. Now did you know of this, Sabrina. 00:11:40 Speaker 2: No, that is fermostly not true. 00:11:44 Speaker 3: I bet you at some level they were throwing other names around. It's Disney, so throwing other names around to maybe bring in a new character or do something. 00:11:53 Speaker 1: So this was a valid rumor. 00:11:55 Speaker 2: You never heard this rumor because other people Jensen just like nope, wrangled up. 00:12:01 Speaker 1: Nope. 00:12:01 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not gonna lie. Not that I would think that I would do. You know that I would ever want to replace Vanessa because she is this brand. But it would have been very cool to be a part of this franchise and for me work with Kenny Ortega again. You give me that opportunity and I'm jumping on it. But but you never heard this, no, And I mean I was so close with Adrian during this time too. There was no This was not something that okay was thrown around. 00:12:33 Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough. Well there we go. Rumor dismissed. And you know that Disney was serious. 00:12:38 Speaker 3: About this movie because High School Musical had a budget of thirty million dollars. That's two thousand and eight money, So that's eighty trillion dollars now, which was a huge sum considering it doesn't have dragons or zombies in it. Also worth noting a reality competition show called High School musical Getting the Picture had also aired on ABC in July, and it had created a nationwide talent search to in a record contract with Disney. Plus, they're original song would be heard during the end credits of High School Musical three. It was hosted by Nick Lache and the winner was someone named Stan Carrizoza, who you know, of course, went on to win fourteen Grammy Awards. 00:13:10 Speaker 1: I'm kidding, I have no idea where he is. 00:13:13 Speaker 3: Plus, kids all over the country are now performing High School Musical in a new format in their high schools. It's been licensed and sold as a school musical for years, and it is a very popular pick. 00:13:22 Speaker 1: Obvious to see why. 00:13:25 Speaker 3: That, you know, also makes sense because well, musically, let's talk about the soundtrack, which sold just under three hundred thousand copies in its first week, eventually selling one point three million copies in total in the US and three point five million worldwide, which ironically is three point seven million more than My album. We've talked about this before, but even though this was the last official film of the trilogy, it went on to be one of the company's biggest franchises. A spinoff starring Ashley Tisdale Sharpay's Fabulous Adventure was released direct to video in twenty eleven, and a mockumentary TV show debuted nine years after High School Musical. 00:13:59 Speaker 1: The musical the series, which is. 00:14:01 Speaker 3: One of the greatest titles ever on Disney Plus, and that series gave the world Olivia Rodrigo right, he gave us all. 00:14:09 Speaker 1: Driver's licenses and credit where credit is due. 00:14:12 Speaker 3: The third film got mixed to positive reviews from critics, and in my opinion, that's kind of a win for a Disney movie. The overall consensus on Rotten Tomatoes, where it lingers around sixty five percent, is that it won't win many converts, but it's bright, energetic, and well crafted and a nice closure for the series. And as Sabrina you said, it is truly a swan song to the fans. 00:14:30 Speaker 1: Yes and yes. 00:14:31 Speaker 3: For years and years and years, a High School Musical four has been rumored, and even Zach Efron recently saying he'd be interested, But it's just that a rumor for now. I even lean into the microphone for that. By the way, I'm debating who I want to play. I'm not sure yet. I think I want to play Sharpei, but I don't know. So you obviously knew about High schoo Musical three coming into the week we both did. Were you excited to watch it? Had you watched it before? Did you know this going in? 00:14:58 Speaker 1: What happened? 00:14:59 Speaker 2: This is what? Like I said, I had never really seen the second one, but I remember because it was playing on the channel. You would see things, you know, around us so much. I knew that it happened around a pool, all that kind of stuff. This one, I the only thing I know was from the title that it was around their senior year. Had no idea, didn't know if they'd be back in the you know, the high school, didn't know if they were going to all be taking a euro trip. Like I had no idea, no idea. So I was excited to see where they were going to take it and you know, see how it was going to Knowing it was on such a gonna be such a bigger scale than what we had seen this far, I was excited to see what Kenny Ortega had in the works for us. 00:15:41 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:15:41 Speaker 2: What about you? 00:15:42 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I obviously knew about this movie, and it was you know, it's one of those things where high school a couple of these dcoms broke the mold and just became the lexicon, became, you know, in the zeitgeist of the world, and High School Musical is obviously one of them. So of course I knew there was a High School Musical three. Didn't know anything about it other than it was senior year, but of course I knew it was there. A big shocker here by the way, High School Musical three and everything to do with the franchise is currently available to stream on Disney Plus. It can start it now, or you can start it after hearing us six and one half dozen of another or a dozen of one. Six plus six is twelve of twelve plus six is eighteen, and that's when you can vote. 00:16:18 Speaker 1: So can I get a dozen everything bagels toasted with cream cheese? Listen, I don't know. 00:16:21 Speaker 2: It's on you, it's going on. 00:16:24 Speaker 3: It's a great question. It's a great question. It's a great question. Now, yeah, I don't know, but we can vote. Now, climb into your treehouse and contemplate the future, because here comes the synopsis. Troy and Gabriella face the reality of graduation as they struggle with whether to stay together or pursue separate futures, all while the Wildcats channel their emotion into a spring musical that captures their fears and dreams about life after high school. Sabrina, let's get right into it, early thoughts. What you think high school musical? 00:16:54 Speaker 2: Three man? I okay, Okay, here's the thing. I thought some of these songs were some of my favorite songs of the franchise. Wow Okay, which I get you ahead in the game, I thought was gonna always be my one and only fave. But you know, there were some the musical elements and aspects of this. Once again, the whole time I just had a big smile on my face when they were doing when they jumped into the musical aspect because Kenny or taket that he just knows how to freaking do this and not do it like there. How his is different. His is more of an old school what he did with this was more of an old school musical vibe. Like yeah, in the sense of this was like there was so many but that was also sort of the only thing that jarred me a little bit. We were in song and dance to many so many times. I agree with you, and I didn't think it needed it because we weren't on a stage. We weren't really on a stage, right. However, when he does jump into that element of the like the things I love him for, like newsies, he the visuals, there's just so much of like, oh my god, this man is like I just want to be a part of his brain. So that outweighed. But there were moments where I was like, holy, we just finished a ballot. Yea, yep, that's that that I will say is the god honest truth from me and I, you know, and we'll we'll talk through it and maybe I'll feel a little bit better once we get through it, or I have a feeling. Will you're going to make me feel worse about it? 00:18:44 Speaker 1: No? 00:18:45 Speaker 2: No, no value? How abou you? 00:18:48 Speaker 1: Okay? So here's the thing. 00:18:50 Speaker 3: If you're in on high school musical, if you're in for the love story, if you're in for the cheese factor, if you're in for the back to back facing the camera kind of we're awesome. 00:19:02 Speaker 1: If you're in for that you loved. 00:19:04 Speaker 2: This, this is it, then this is a movie for you. 00:19:06 Speaker 3: It's the pinnacle of what you could possibly have. So I had to be in it' high school musical. If you're in You're in, so in that sense. 00:19:16 Speaker 1: It's taking the cheesiness. 00:19:18 Speaker 3: That is high school musical and heightening it even more. Some bangers in this movie. There are some great songs that get completely and totally muddled by the sixty two other songs that are. 00:19:31 Speaker 2: In this That's what I was bad, is it? That's right on the nail. 00:19:35 Speaker 3: And we will, we will, We'll get into it when we get into the length of this movie. 00:19:38 Speaker 1: This movie was way too long and there was way too many songs. 00:19:42 Speaker 2: Did you check the time before you started? 00:19:44 Speaker 1: No, because I checked. 00:19:46 Speaker 2: The time because I was I was limited on the time that I had, and I went, oh my god, I'm so glad I started right now because I was thinking somewhere around ninety minutes. No, no, shocking off, shocking off. Yeah, And I feel like how we cut some of these routines out, we'd be a lot closer to what we needed to be for the time. 00:20:06 Speaker 1: I agree with you one thousand percent. 00:20:08 Speaker 3: Now that being said, having worked with you long enough and kind of being able to get understand a little more of what goes into the dance sequences and stuff, because you're kind of look at this, look at this, seeing things like the one one thing that amazes me now because you have me, it's like me with you when you're going like the rules now totally so with you kind of explaining things to me, I'm seeing like the levels where it's this is happening on the floor, while this is happening in the catwalk, and this is happen. So I'm kind of watching the stuff that the genius that is keny Ortega is doing with these things, and. 00:20:41 Speaker 1: Those things are incredible. 00:20:43 Speaker 3: I'm so watching these big dance numbers and especially the big ones in that we talked about high school and the idea of being in that Murray High cafeteria where it's the multiple level high school cafeteria, using that as a dance floor. All that stuff is obviously phenomenal. But I remember me be two songs, and I like the two songs that I remember, but it was like the entire everything it was like you it was like, wait, they're not actually. 00:21:09 Speaker 1: Going to another song? 00:21:10 Speaker 2: Are they? 00:21:10 Speaker 1: Are they going into another song? So that threw me a bit. 00:21:13 Speaker 3: Overall, though if you're in on high school musical, you know it was great for fans. I can see this is exactly what the it was like a bunch of fans who knew how to sing and dance got together and Kenny went, what. 00:21:25 Speaker 2: Do you want? What do you want to what do you want? 00:21:27 Speaker 1: What do you want me to do for you? What do you want me? 00:21:30 Speaker 3: And they all went, I want try to do this, and I want Gabrielle to do this, and for some reason, I want there to be a treehouse and I want there to do this, and then I want a basketball thing and I want the guys and it's like, okay, I know and. 00:21:40 Speaker 2: You know what that is like after I hope you feel get that feeling from the interview that we did with him that he is such a he's so grateful for when people understand like and love his work. That like people loving this brand and this franchise that he molded. That is actually I can see and hear him as he's going through the script and going, no, we need to do this. They the fans want this, Like I swear, it gives me chills, just because he's such like that man and that grateful for what they've given him. He got it and he wants to give them everything that they want. 00:22:17 Speaker 3: So yeah, well, speaking of that, when you take a high School musical. Your second thought could easily be the director. Of course, we're talking about the legendary Ko himself, Kenny or Tega, former guest on this very podcast. Ortega is a first ballot Disney Hall of Famer literally who began his career as a choreographer for Michael Jackson, Olivia Newton John and Madonna, three people even I've heard of. He turned that into working on cult movies like Xanadu and other memorable dance sequences in films like Pretty and Pink and Dirty Dancing. 00:22:43 Speaker 1: Then when he linked up with Disney, well. 00:22:45 Speaker 3: History was made as he transitioned into directing with I mean, come on Newsi's Hocus Pocus, Cheetah Girls Too, high School Musical. And now he's in charge of the Descendants franchise. So he is a legend and couldn't be a nicer human being. So go back and listen to our interview with him. He's great and put at stories. Man did he did? He like me a lot? But oh god, does he love you, Sabrina? And it is so funny to watch and it stars Zach Efron as Troy Bolton, a relatively unknown before these movies. Efron has recently focused mostly on comedies like Seventeen Again, Neighbors and Ricky Stanicky. 00:23:20 Speaker 1: I Think Is What It Is? 00:23:21 Speaker 3: Never Saw That, but also showing off his acting chops in the wrestling biopic Iron Claw. Vanessa Hodges plays Gabrielle Montez, another unknown. She had a massive breakout with these films that would become not only the spokesperson for companies like newt Regina, she appeared in movies like Spring Breakers and Bad Boys Rider Die. Her and Efron would become one of the generation's favorite celebrity couples. But she since married retired baseball player Cole Tucker. Who my god, if he's not a baseball player, he has to be a race car driver Cole Tucker and they have. 00:23:50 Speaker 1: Two kids together. 00:23:51 Speaker 3: And Ashley Tisdale known now as Ashley French, plays Sharpey Evans, a standout character from the movies. Ashley apparently was part of a a very toxic mom group. But on the acting side, she already appeared in Seventh Heaven, Smart Guy and Still Standing by the time of her first high school musical, and now her voice acting. 00:24:08 Speaker 1: Career is really your main focus. Props love it. 00:24:11 Speaker 3: She plays Candace on Phineas and Ferb and was Sabrina on Sbreeena and the Teenage Witch the Cartoon and has worked on Skylanders, Academy, Ginger Snap's Family Guy, and a little show called Kim Possible. But it was recently announced that she could return to traditional acting for a CBS parenting sitcom currently being developed called Your Only Young Twice Now let your Mind go with where That's Gonna Be and Lucas Grabile plays her scene stealing sidekick Ryan. He's also a very busy voice actor and plays young Lex Luthor on Smallville and on the dcom side of things. 00:24:43 Speaker 1: He's also in Return to Halloween Town. 00:24:46 Speaker 3: Another former guest, Corbyn Blue, friend of the Pod, plays Chad Danceforth. It should be dance Forth, but it's dan Forth, which is odd. He continued a career around music, seen in movies like Sugar and Camp Hideout and starred on Broadway's In the Heights. 00:25:01 Speaker 1: He is also a. 00:25:01 Speaker 3: Dancing with the Stars runner up and welcome Jemma Mackenzie Brown to the franchise as tr Gold. 00:25:08 Speaker 1: She's an English actress and singer HMS three. 00:25:11 Speaker 3: It just sounds like a boat, it doesn't It like I was on the HMS three was her first movie. 00:25:18 Speaker 1: Quite an intro. 00:25:18 Speaker 3: There was an audition at her acting school and she was picked two flight to Los Angeles to try out. 00:25:23 Speaker 1: The rest is of course history now. 00:25:26 Speaker 3: Bart Johnson aka Coach Bolton, actually interviewed Gemma for his Get Your Head in the Game podcast on our magical rewind feed. 00:25:33 Speaker 1: It was such a great interview, so go check it out. 00:25:35 Speaker 3: She talked about the whole audition process, meeting the cast for the first time, and of course working with Kenny or Tago. 00:25:40 Speaker 1: Really check it out. It's a lot of fun. 00:25:42 Speaker 3: It's worth pointing out she plays Sharpay's personal high school assistant, and yet Tisdale is nine years older than her. 00:25:49 Speaker 1: She could have babysat for her. 00:25:50 Speaker 3: Seeny Gomez was reportedly offered the role but turned it down, and Ali Lohan also auditioned for the part. Monique Coleman plays Taylor, while best friend of the show, Bart Johnson is Coach Bolton. We know that. Yeah, So if you have not yet checked out Bart's incredible podcast, which we just said, get your Head in the Game. It celebrates everything high school musical. He talked to everyone from Vanessa Hudges to Casey Strow to the background dancer turned Dancing with the Stars pro Britt Stewart, you should seriously check that out. It's available wherever you get your podcasts. 00:26:21 Speaker 1: On our feet. It's like family, so yeah, check it out. 00:26:26 Speaker 2: We love Bart forever. 00:26:30 Speaker 3: Yeah, we love you Bart. We're happy that we're family, and we. 00:26:34 Speaker 1: Know High School Musical is beloved. But is it short? 00:26:40 Speaker 3: We hear it magical, rewind applaud ninety minutes and only when there are ninety minutes longer is a massive issue. Shorter's fine, but still kind of side eyed. Where does this third movie fall when it comes to. 00:26:53 Speaker 1: Timing taking a breath? 00:26:56 Speaker 2: Taking a breath? 00:26:57 Speaker 3: High School Musical three senior year is one hundred and twenty minutes. My actual senior in high school was one hundred and eighteen. 00:27:05 Speaker 1: So holy, this is unbelievable, disgusting. 00:27:10 Speaker 3: Kenny or Taga, I don't blame you because you can do no wrong and you're amazing, but somebody's let us down. There is a whopping full thirty minutes past the target. I could have watched an entire movie than an episode of Mash and still had eight minutes left. Let's just cut the podcast. Now, let's stop it two hours. Why does this movie have to be two hours? The answer is it doesn't. Yeah, but I guess we're in too deep now. Writing wise, by the way, there's been no change here. It's still Peter Barzokini, who before High School Musical One really only had the Wesley Snipes film Drop Zone, which was great to his name, and now he has more money than he can spend in one lifetime. 00:27:48 Speaker 2: Hey, it's Sabrina Bryant from the Magical rewind podcast. 00:27:51 Speaker 4: Get ready for three energetic Nights of Magic this April at the Disneyland after Dark Disney Channel Night enjoy special after hours access to Disneyland Park with themed entertainment, character sightings and amazing photo ops. You'll be able to cheer on your favorite team at the High School Musical Zombies pep Rowley, learn the dance moves at Descend Dance, and Seeing your Heart Out at Disney Channel Rocks, a concert celebrating your favorite Disney Channel hits. Plus there's exclusive merch them food, and even early park entry to the Disneyland Park starting at six pm, three whole hours before the event begins. I'll also be there recording a few podcast episodes at Disneyland After Dark Disney Channel Night on April twelfth with High School Musicals Bart Johnson and April fourteenth with Christy Carlson, Romano from Even Stevens and Kim Possible. Don't miss out on this unforgettable night of Disney Channel Magic. Select nights are still available, so make sure you get your tickets now. 00:28:52 Speaker 3: All right, So let's do this right here, right now. Don't walk away or I'll scream. I want it all now or ever. Because the boys are back and as always, we're all in this together. Let's get into high school Musical three senior year. So we open with some real intensity here. Troy is covered in sweat again. Given the fans what they want, can we open with Zach Effron Sweaty. Troy is covered in sweat on the basketball court. The Wildcats are losing to the Knights by almost twenty points with less than twenty seconds left in the second quarter. 00:29:19 Speaker 1: He screams, let's go and the ball is inbounded to him. 00:29:22 Speaker 3: The gym is packed and the students are going crazy. The Wildcats run defence, but the ball is stolen by the Knights and they score an easy layup, Troy blows another shot, and the first half comes to a close. The defending champion Wildcats are getting smoked. They returned to the locker room pretty defeated. Coach Bolton knows they're in trouble, but he's not ready to give up. He tells him there are sixteen minutes left in the season, and that means seniors only have sixteen minutes left. As Wildcats make him count, he leaves, and then the captains, Troy and Chad, take control and reiterate the same thing about the sixteen minutes. 00:29:50 Speaker 1: It's now or never. 00:29:51 Speaker 3: They repeatedly scream Wildcats and return to the gym for what might just be the quickest half time in history. 00:29:56 Speaker 1: It was three minutes, tops. That's not the way halftime. 00:29:59 Speaker 2: Oh wait, okay, I already have questions? 00:30:02 Speaker 1: Do it? What do you got? So? 00:30:04 Speaker 2: Okay, now, I'm this might just be really ridiculous. I don't know basketball that well, okay, sixteen minutes is a halftime or is a half? 00:30:15 Speaker 1: Well, it's two you've got four? 00:30:18 Speaker 2: Not in high school? 00:30:19 Speaker 1: I do Wait a minute, No, that can't be right. It should be a half hour, right. 00:30:22 Speaker 2: This sixteen minute thing, and it was set so many. 00:30:24 Speaker 1: Times not too many minute quarters, is. 00:30:27 Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. I feel like they're at least fifteen minutes each or but like then it's like, okay, so if this was their quarter break, they don't get to leave and go to the locker rooms. Already like trying to dissect this, and then I'm like, wait a minute, Sabrina, I'm googling. Who cares, just get into this. 00:30:47 Speaker 1: I'm googling. You need to know all this stuff. It's the rules. No, that is right. 00:30:50 Speaker 3: High school basketball games in most US states consist of four eight minute quarters. 00:30:55 Speaker 2: Six minutes, sixteen minute half. 00:30:58 Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow, oh that crazy. Yep, So that's what I got. 00:31:01 Speaker 2: So they were right there, we go okay, right, yeah, I mean I had to have been because they messaged. That was said over and over again, right. 00:31:09 Speaker 1: And we all just googled, meaning once again, we're all in this together, got it? 00:31:14 Speaker 2: Okay, So sixteen minutes I did like Bart already. I loved chimes like his. I loved his little pump up speech that. I was like, I'm gonna clock that one. Yeah, for a future for my girls, like you know you won't. This is it. 00:31:30 Speaker 1: It's a uniform. Leave it all in the field people. 00:31:32 Speaker 2: Yep, here we go go have fun. 00:31:34 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:31:35 Speaker 3: Okay, so the gym is still exploding with fans and we get a song about having only well sixteen minutes left. The band and the cheerleaders, led by Martha are going off, and once the third quarter begins, the Wildcats are a change team. 00:31:46 Speaker 1: Troy and the team are on fire. 00:31:47 Speaker 3: As a song It's Now or Never continues, Troy sings in between dribbling and playing defense, and it's eventually fouled hard and throw it to the ground. As he gets up, one girl just appears in the crowd. It's Gabriella. She jumps up out of nowhere in the middle of the thing, and I gave it. 00:32:12 Speaker 1: I literally stood up and gave it a standing ovation because I was laughing so hard. I'm sorry, but it was. 00:32:17 Speaker 3: Such a reeking of cheese moment where she pops through the thing and it's like and trueau and I was like, yes, we are back in the high school musical world. 00:32:27 Speaker 1: It is the cheesiest, most ridiculous, awful. I love this moment. It is amazing. 00:32:34 Speaker 2: Okay, but here's the thing. They started this first moment of the movie and showed you exactly where they were going. They weren't trying to veer away from the formula that is old school, very intense. I mean, this was an intense routine. Then yes, she shows up out of nowhere. They am mad, like the whole room just drops and it's just them and it's okay, Like this is it. This It sets it up for what the rest of the movie is. 00:33:12 Speaker 1: And it's like. 00:33:13 Speaker 2: Get in or get out because there are so many high school musical fans, we don't need you. If you don't like it, get out. 00:33:21 Speaker 1: And it's time to leave. 00:33:23 Speaker 3: I would I would be shocked if the theater did not rrupt when she stood up in the middle of it. 00:33:31 Speaker 2: Yes, and it wasn't up. This is what they came for. So this is this is setting the tone. I'm glad they did it here. Then like two musical numbers later getting into that, like the drama and the flinging of the hair and the this and the that. No, they did it right from the start. It locked you in and it was like get in or get out. I'm not kidding. These are for only these are for the major fans, or not. 00:33:58 Speaker 1: If you're not it, I literally, that's not a joke. 00:34:02 Speaker 3: I literally stood up by myself in my room clapping. I gave it a full laughing myself standing ovation because it when. 00:34:12 Speaker 2: I'm in I'm already you're talking about what they're doing. He pulled stuff that they do at the Super Bowls, like oh okay, we all have signs now and it's like up on the stands and I'm like, holy cow, yes, Kenny, Yes, Kenny there, hey girl, yes. Tell him to get his head in the case. 00:34:33 Speaker 1: So she croons out his name. 00:34:35 Speaker 3: She tells me he can do it. She believes in him, and he admits it's all he really needs. And he's right, because the Wildcats are right back in the game, now only down by a point. With a minute left, the Wildcats call it time out and Troy suggests subbing in Rocketman. His dad, slash Coach, is shocked, but goes with the idea, then calling for a very energetic kid at the end of the bench. 00:34:54 Speaker 1: He looks just like Troy, but taller. This is Rocketman. Then we jump right back into our nowur net. 00:35:00 Speaker 3: For the last play, Troy is triple teamed off the inbound so he passes to Rocketman, who looks terrified to get the ball, but he shoots from underneath the basket and scores. 00:35:08 Speaker 1: And I was like, who the heck is this guy? And why do I care? 00:35:11 Speaker 2: Crap so close to not even right on the point. Now he literally is like this. 00:35:18 Speaker 1: Yeah it was. 00:35:20 Speaker 3: I was waiting for like his dad to come and pick him up, like when you're a kid, like, oh, you can do it, Champ, and like hould him up to the basket. 00:35:26 Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh So the crowd goes wild, and then Troy'll head. 00:35:30 Speaker 3: Up by the fans, which seems kind of like a real f you to Rocketman because he just won the game, but nobody cares. And that night, despite the big win, Troy and chat are pushing his stalled truck down the street he's been saving for a new fuel pump. They eventually arrive at Troy's house to the location of the big victory party with a DJ dancing in a popcorn machine. He says hi to Gabriella, while Coach Bolton is chatting with a U of a recruit who apparently likes to attend kids parties. It seems like the school wants both Troy and Chad for the RedHawks basketball team. Rocketman's there too, and apparently he's being foisted upon us, and they're like, this is a new character. 00:36:03 Speaker 1: You're gonna like him, We're gonna keep puting him in stuff. 00:36:05 Speaker 3: It was like, okay, and we quickly realized that he's going to be a problem. He's a possible criminal, even because he looks just like Troy but wants to be Troy and has even photographed his room so he can make his look the same. And I am rooting for a single white female type of horse. Been off between these two where eventually Rocketman steals zach Efron's face and wears it like a mask. The party's really popping off now. But Troy and Gabrielle are up in his treehouse alone. Had we seen the treehouse? 00:36:32 Speaker 2: I didn't remember the tree house at all. 00:36:34 Speaker 3: They've been together for four years now or three years now, whatever, it is a third year together, and she's like, wow, I've never seen your treehouse. 00:36:42 Speaker 1: It's like, have you. 00:36:43 Speaker 3: Never been to his home in the three years you've been together. You've never seen the giant, giant pirate ship. 00:36:51 Speaker 1: Themed treehouse in his backyard. You never glanced out outside. 00:36:56 Speaker 3: It was such a weird thing to focus on the fact that she'd never seen. 00:37:02 Speaker 2: The tree because it's like, was the treehouse built recently? 00:37:06 Speaker 1: Are you did you make a high school tree She's a. 00:37:09 Speaker 2: High school senior with a brand new treehouse. 00:37:15 Speaker 3: It was it was really that was a weird moment for me where I was like, what, she's never seen the huge treehouse in the backyard. Yeah, so anyway, uh yeah, they okay, so there's you're they're up in the treehouse. They talk about you of a and how it's always been his dad's dream that he goes, you know, and plays basketball there. Gabrielle has also been set up to go to Stanford by her mom, so they're going to different schools and most likely they'll meet other people and we'll never speak again, because that's unfortunately the way high school and college works. They wish their senior year would just slow down a bit. And then we get into our next song, a duet ballot right here right Now, which was a love track. 00:37:49 Speaker 1: Sabrina, what do you think of the song in the treehouse? 00:37:52 Speaker 2: H Of the many songs that they have together throughout this movie, this was my least memorable. 00:38:02 Speaker 1: I don't remember the song at all. 00:38:03 Speaker 2: I don't remember it. 00:38:04 Speaker 1: Busy concentrating in the treehouse. 00:38:09 Speaker 2: About about there though, Yeah, so this one I did not. Honestly, I remember a little bit of it. And I also remembered thinking too while I was watching it, like listening for Zach's voice, going, well, he's really sounding like great he like I mean for somebody who didn't wasn't wanting to do the first or didn't do the first voice work in it. Now we're to the third. 00:38:36 Speaker 1: Movie, like he's killing it, props man. 00:38:39 Speaker 2: So that's probably what I was thinking. 00:38:40 Speaker 1: More so, same thing with you. I don't remember the song at all. And now, but don't worry. We've got seventy two more. 00:38:46 Speaker 2: We're good guys, don't worry. You will talk about some ballads between the two of them. 00:38:50 Speaker 1: We will. 00:38:50 Speaker 3: And now it's the next day at school and there she is. It's time to welcome back Sharpey. Who man make an entrance? 00:38:56 Speaker 1: Oh he pulls up. 00:38:58 Speaker 3: And a read convertible. She says, fabulous. Ever, she steals every movie she's in. 00:39:01 Speaker 1: She really does. 00:39:02 Speaker 3: It says so on her personalized license plate. All the boys lover and so do we. She b lines to Troy to flirt and then makes her way to a painted pink Sharpei locker, which it may I remind you, is still there at Eastside High School in real life. You can see pictures of it all over social media, which is brilliant. Sharpey puts on her Tiara and then meets a girl named Tierra or Tiara depends on where you're from, who is a transfer from London looking to fill her vacant personal assistant job. And so just like that, we've got another new character. 00:39:30 Speaker 1: I'm there, you go. 00:39:31 Speaker 3: I'm waiting for the Tiera and Rocketman spin off. Troy is on his way to class when he stopped by Rocketman. The creep wants Troy's locker now and this season is over, so they're like, okay, but you got to get a restraining order on this guy. 00:39:44 Speaker 1: I'm sensing bad things in the future. 00:39:47 Speaker 3: And in the classroom, Troy gets a love note from Gabriella because again, like all the movies, the main characters have every class together. Meanwhile, classmate Taylor has an announcement. The Senior Trip Committee is meeting and prom is just around the corner. Then it's Sharpay's time speak. She's decided maybe on doing a one woman show for the spring musical, but to avoid that, Kelsey the composer, signs up the entire homeroom for the play, which seemed like, Yeah, don't just sign me up for a play. But at the first rehearsal everyone reveals they can't actually be in the show. No one has the time, but Gabriella, with the help of Troy, convinces the group to do it. It's their last chance to have fun together. And like you said with his singing, what I noticed in this movie is how much better Vanessa Hudgens was as an actor. 00:40:27 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:40:28 Speaker 3: Then she was in the first one, and she wasn't bad in the first one. She was cute and she was kind of doing the part. She wasn't exactly what she needed, but she was very good in this movie. Yeah, she really. 00:40:35 Speaker 2: Wast a very like mature as. 00:40:40 Speaker 3: Uh. Now they're talking about how the show that they're gonna put on will be about their final days at east Side. They're gonna call it senior Year and play themselves a little kind of weird fourth wall break, which was fun and for the first time in Eastside history, Juilliard is looking for four students for a scholarship Sharpey, Ryan Kelsey, and Troy. 00:40:59 Speaker 1: Apparently nobody cares. 00:41:00 Speaker 3: Ebrielle and her singing Juilliard will be sending reps to see the show, but Troy just laughs because he didn't even apply. And now we're back in the awesome cafeteria where Sharpey, tr her assistant, and Ryan are stressing about the musical and Juilliard. She thinks Troy did in fact apply and it's just playing dumb. And that leads us to our newest song, a huge iconic duet for Sharpey and Ryan called I Want It All and ode to their Broadway in Hollywood Dreams. Big dance number here too, a lot of budgets spent, actually probably maybe the most expensive number in the franchise history. I'm not even gonna ask you what you think about this. I'm going to go first. This was by far my favorite. I can remember the song, it was engaging, The dance number was incredible. 00:41:37 Speaker 1: This was this stole the movie for me. What did you think? 00:41:40 Speaker 2: I was just I mean, I loved it. I loved the aspect that you know. This iconic cafeteria was turned in to a whole Broadway set that was very cool to see the cafeteria dress differently, Yep, the details like if you looked up on the top when they were in the Broadway aspect on the right hand side, there's just this giant wall, sure of sharpey, like the cossuming, you know. Of course, all the visuals. The choreography itself was so on point. And what I love the most is getting to see Ryan Sharpay's brother Yeah pop out of the screen more than he ever has for me, Like, I was just like, oh okay. Vocally he was like it was just everything for his character was like four steps up than what they've done before, and he was wonderful. I really loved it. And of course Ashley Tisdale geez Luise like. 00:42:33 Speaker 1: She kills it. I mean, she really kills it. 00:42:36 Speaker 2: You cannot take away her talent. You could talk about whatever you want to talk talk, but when that girl gets on her gets in her game level, there is no stopping her. Look. 00:42:45 Speaker 3: When we were growing up as child actors, you would hear managers, agents, everybody. 00:42:51 Speaker 1: They would always talk about it. They have it. You would hear that all the time, and it was one of those things where nobody could describe it. You just knew it when you saw it. 00:42:59 Speaker 3: And she has she just does she The second she comes on screen, there could be five, literally five hundred other people in the screen. Your eyes are on her the whole time. She's phenomenal. She can sing, she can dance, she has it. Whatever it is, she's got it. I honestly, with the way the choreography was and the way they that Kenny staged a lot of this movie. And I'm gonna ask a stupid question because I've already read all the materials so I know the answer. 00:43:25 Speaker 1: Was there ever a talk. 00:43:26 Speaker 3: Of this movie being three D? Because this looked like this was stage to where the multiple levels, people jumping out like they wanted to do, pointing at the screen like they wanted this to be three D at some point, I guarantee you there's a conversation on some level. 00:43:43 Speaker 2: Definitely an era around this in two thousand and eight that every I feel like there was a step up three D? Right, It wasn't there? The one with the big rain. I know there's probably no that's step up. 00:43:58 Speaker 3: To the streets. 00:44:02 Speaker 1: That was the big final number. 00:44:03 Speaker 2: Okay, so disrespectful, Yeah, so knock it off. Okay, all right, topology. 00:44:10 Speaker 1: Accepted this time. 00:44:12 Speaker 3: Okay, but let's be easy, Okay. 00:44:17 Speaker 2: God, but there was that moment where, yes, I think now that you're saying that, I that didn't jump out on me when I was watching this at all, but now that you're saying it, I could only absolutely see how this could. 00:44:31 Speaker 3: Have been also been high school musical three D? 00:44:38 Speaker 1: Yeah, did you see what I'm saying? Like everything? So I was like, I wonder if they were ever talking at any level. 00:44:44 Speaker 2: Okay, this is like out of my realm, But wouldn't you have to have specific film and everything. You shoot it on. 00:44:51 Speaker 1: A three D camera, you shoot it on a three D. 00:44:53 Speaker 3: But that's why I'm wondering if at any level it was ever discussed making this three D and if maybe in Kenny's mind he thought it was going to be three D and so he kind of staged some stuff like it was and they're like, no, we're gonna do two D and he's like, well, I'm not changing it because my choreography is awesome, so freaking awesome. 00:45:07 Speaker 1: Yeah, yea exactly. 00:45:15 Speaker 3: Now, with the scholarship hanging in the balance, Sharpei wants Ryan to make sure they get Kelsey's best songs by any means necessary. And now it's the following day and we find out that Gabriella may not even be at East High for the musical. She's up for Stanford's freshman honors program, a secret she's even kept from Troy, and right on time, Troy calls her. He's on top of the school, back in that weird roof greenhouse thing and needs her help right away. He has two options for promp tuxedos and makes her pick. He's never been to a dance, let alone a prom, so he asks her to be his date because the prom theme is last Waltz. She shows him how to waltz and we get our next number, another love ballot centered around them waltzing and ending in an absolute downpour of rain. Can I have this dance? What do you think of this wet one, Sabrina? 00:45:58 Speaker 2: This one was my favorite of all theirs. 00:46:00 Speaker 3: Okay, the favorite ballad or the favorite song in the entire movie. 00:46:03 Speaker 2: No, the favorite ballot, the favorite duo ballad of our kids here and when I tell you it was whimsical. The choreography was amazing, it was romantic, it was it moved so brilliantly, and them together looked like they've been almost like, you know, because it's obviously more towards like a ballroom dancing style, and also like a little bit more like old school singing in the rain, like that kind of stuff. They looked like they had been dance partners for years, like they've been training for this moment for so long. Vanessa's footwork was unreal. I mean I was watching it and I felt like I was watching something that you would have seen on Dancing with the Stars, like Scott's. How good this was? It was so so good and it blew me away. I was like, wow, Like my level of respect for them as dancers now, not just I've had, you know, I've always loved them, but as actual dancers was like, just to the next level, that's great. Yeah. I loved it and it was it was cute, and it was every again. It was everything that I needed for I'm sorry, it was everything I need. I just went like check. 00:47:22 Speaker 3: I thought they missed something kind of big here if I'm what, and it might be just a new thing maybe, but I thought his asking her to the problem was very kind of happening. 00:47:33 Speaker 2: Yes, I didn't understand that. I thought that was literally going to just be like an allude. 00:47:37 Speaker 1: To the which never happens, which it was never happened. We're going together, right kind of thing. 00:47:44 Speaker 2: Actually, later on, when we see how someone responds to someone else sing it, I was like, that's how I would have responded if my boyfriend, Yes, right, I made a prom that way, I would have been like, no, you can try that again. 00:47:58 Speaker 3: That's not I thought this was going to be some big promposal and they're the couple, and it wasn't. I was just like, it was basically like, we're going together, right, It's like, yeah. 00:48:05 Speaker 2: Okay, I got here's the tickets. Yeah, I'm like, oh cool, who you going with that? 00:48:10 Speaker 1: You're right? 00:48:11 Speaker 2: It was just do you know what she's wearing? I see what you've got picked out? I wonder what she's gonna hold? 00:48:16 Speaker 1: Did you match with her? 00:48:17 Speaker 3: Because so yeah, that to me, I thought they did something. 00:48:20 Speaker 2: But yes, did you get into the actual musical aspects of it? You forget about it and you're like, all right, fine, agree, you're still the best YEP. 00:48:28 Speaker 3: So she of course says yes to the world's worst promposal in every language. She says it, and then the bell rings before they can kiss while getting soaked, and in the boys locker room a just showered Rocketman. They're foisting this guy on us. We're gonna like Rocketman and his friend realized their clothes have been stolen. Troy and Chad took them to these senior lockers, but won't reveal the locks. Combos They've got to earn those lockers. This turns into a choreograph chase through the school a music rehearsal. Ryan is going full Bob Fosse as Rocketman and his friend running wearing only a towel. 00:48:58 Speaker 1: Ending into tensions for all involved. 00:49:01 Speaker 3: Later on, Troy drops a Gabriella off at home and is jeloppi. She compliments his musical skills and wonders why it's so hard to admit how much he loves the stage and this I didn't need any of this storyline. Troy has now been in forty two musicals. He's an entertainer. We know he's an entertainer. He knows he's an entertainer. The idea that he's still struggling with whether or not I like it is ridiculous. 00:49:23 Speaker 1: Obviously he does cut that out. 00:49:24 Speaker 3: There's ten minutes of the movie Gone, because it's of course he now whether you're going to pursue that in college? 00:49:31 Speaker 1: Hey, am I going to do sports? Or am I going to be an entertainer? 00:49:34 Speaker 3: Okay, that's valid whether you like it or feel comfortable on stage. 00:49:38 Speaker 1: We've seen this already. We know you like it. 00:49:40 Speaker 3: We know you're comfortable on stage, Matt, you don't need anymore. Hey, yes, no, I do love it, but I'm going to concentrate on basketball when I get into college. Legitimate conversation. Gee, I don't know if I really even enjoy this anymore if I want to do that. It's like, come on, dude, the ship sailed. We've seen you do, guess, and just. 00:49:58 Speaker 2: So like recognizable too, Like every kid that's now, you know, dance their whole year, their whole life, going into college, baseball their whole life, you know what I mean, or you know, played any kind of sport that they've had to train forever when they get to their sophomore junior year is going. I don't know if I want to do that in college. I kind of don't want. You know that. That is so like like Moose in Step Up three. 00:50:29 Speaker 3: It's true he does he want to be an engineer, does he want to be a dancer? He chooses them both, Sabrina, Okay, anyway, we've got to we've got to talk about it. 00:50:41 Speaker 2: We probably need to review these movies. 00:50:44 Speaker 1: I can talk about it right now. I'll do a breakdown of them all right now. 00:50:47 Speaker 2: I would need to see them one more time before we did, so. 00:50:53 Speaker 3: Yes, anyway, it's because of Troy's dad and Chad, of course, that his future of playing ball at u of A is kind of in flux because he doesn't know which one he wants to do. 00:51:04 Speaker 1: It's really his dad's dream. 00:51:06 Speaker 2: Uh. 00:51:07 Speaker 3: And so the thing that he lets Gabriella know is that he is in fact listening to other offers. So he's telling her kind of everything going on, and she's still keeping a lot of secrets from him and Gabriella though she does admit she's doing the same with Stanford. But before she can reveal her other ideas, they're interrupted by her mom, who made snacks. Then next day, is this the first time we've seen Troy's mom? Oh, but she was gone in the first two movies. 00:51:31 Speaker 2: Right, that is what I'm thinking. But but was she just like so in and out like she does different. This one could have been a recast and I'm trying no idea she went. I did not recognize her at all. She definitely didn't play the same heaviness of like what Bart played as Coach Bolton. So she was kind of a dismissed care character that I agree. She could have been a different character in one, two, and three and I wouldn't have known. 00:52:06 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't. I was like, why did I? Yeah, she was in every movie, but not as much as copol. 00:52:12 Speaker 2: It's the same after Wow, now I feel psychology to the actor. Well, anyway, I'm so sorry. She was great. 00:52:19 Speaker 3: It's just the way it was, the way she was written. She's just kind of a forgettable character. It's not her. 00:52:24 Speaker 1: Yeah. So anyway. The next day at school, the yearbook staff is hard. You know. It was my favorite character's movie, The Mom. The mom loved her. 00:52:34 Speaker 3: The next day at school, the yearbook staff is hard at work when Troy and Chad visit their respective girls and prospective prom dates. But Chad's date, Taylor, needs a big invitation to say yes, or at least just ask her. Troy, so at lunchtime, students pour into the cafeteria as Troy hands Chad flowers to approach Taylor, and embarrassed Chad stands on a table and gives in, yelling his proposal, and she finally happily accepts. 00:52:57 Speaker 1: This turns into her next song, A Night to Remember, a bit. 00:53:00 Speaker 3: Of a panic attack about getting ready for the pressures of proms. Sabrina, this is another big Kenny or take a beast? What did you think of this one? 00:53:06 Speaker 2: This one was very cool to me. I thought it was really creative because it brought us into the idea of this as an actual real musical. 00:53:15 Speaker 1: In this ye it's a Broadway play. 00:53:17 Speaker 2: It's a Broadway play. The sets. At first, I was kind of like, what's going on? I didn't really quite understand it until the when I when it clicked in was when they were on that big set. It was three levels. The guys were or at least two levels. The guys were at the door with the moms, the girls were up top with the windows, and I was like, this is cool, very creative. It was pretty seamless. That kind of brought us back into what the storyline, which is them making a high school musical show about their last year. So I really liked this one. I liked it. Again. We're flying through them pretty quickly, so I've got a kind of job, you know, I've got to jog my memory of where. Yeah, which, but it's yeah, I did love this one the go Isy. 00:54:05 Speaker 3: First I was like, well, that's weird. They're opening the doors and kids are playing the parents. Why don't they have the actual parent? And then I was like, oh no, because this is the musical they're doing at school. 00:54:15 Speaker 1: And that's when I was like, oh my god, that's actually brilliant. 00:54:18 Speaker 3: But it's going in and out of the actual musical they're putting on at school to their actual school, to their home life. Very well done, very very cool. Yeah, very clever. Now it's Disney, it's high school musical. No mention of sex on prom night? Do you think that's okay? Do you think talking about the pressures of prom night? Maybe having a moment of what prom can mean for some people? How some people make bad decisions on prom, how some people make informed decisions on prom. It just it was never mentioned, And part of me is like, it's high school musical. 00:54:53 Speaker 1: You don't need that in here. Just let them have a musical. 00:54:56 Speaker 3: And there's part of me, that's like it could be kind of a teaching mom So I don't know which way to go. 00:55:01 Speaker 1: With that much. 00:55:02 Speaker 2: I don't think the prom because the because we had the musical, the prom, and the future, like there was so many of them, Like the prom wasn't as big of a story like character. It didn't like this wasn't built around going to the prom. This was built around the high school like show, and the prom was also happening, and the graduation was also happening. I just didn't think, like, where will we just said we wanted to cut stuff out now, but. 00:55:33 Speaker 3: Again cut out Troy not knowing if he wants to be on stage after his thirty seventh play and think it. 00:55:38 Speaker 2: I don't think it. I didn't miss it out. 00:55:40 Speaker 1: Oh I don't disagree. 00:55:41 Speaker 2: I didn't miss it at all. And I didn't think it was necessarily needed. I was kind of weirded out that at this point, we haven't seen them kiss. I need a smooch. What's happening, Like, we haven't seen them kiss. So that's that was a little bit like no smooch, Yeah not yet, not yet, but we get a good one later we do. 00:56:07 Speaker 3: It's revealed that this number was actually part of the East High musical. Also, Rocketman is named an understudy alongside his rival and subject to some sexual tension. Sharpey's assistant Tierra Gold there's a possible new couple alert in Yearbook. Now, Gabriella reveals to Taylor that she was indeed accepted to a three week Stanford freshman honors program, So she's telling her friend but not her boyfriend, and is now invited to early orientation, but she doesn't seem a hundred percent in and unfortunately, a nearby Tierra Tiara heard the Stanford news and reports back to Sharpey about the development, because if Gabriella accepts, she'll miss the musical. Meanwhile, Ryan approaches Kelsey about the big Troy slash Gabriella song, which seems to just be called just Want to Be with You. We get a few bars of it and then jump right into the actual rehearsal in our Newest number. Very paired down now with Ryan's looming presence, Sharpei arrives to see what Ryan has learned so far, but Ryan only reveals he's taking Kelsey to prompt Sharpey thinks he's going undercover. 00:57:01 Speaker 1: But we think he might actually like her. 00:57:04 Speaker 3: And she's super cute and so is he, and the two of them together rooting for them. We're now at an auto junkyard and ooh, this is where the movie took a turn for me, tra this is. 00:57:16 Speaker 1: So disney like. 00:57:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, Troy and Chad have brought the crap truck in for a new radiator cap and they're looking through parts. Troy wonders if Chad is so sure of his future and argues for having more interest than just basketball, and this turns into our next song, The Boys are Back, a. 00:57:32 Speaker 1: Real anthem for just being bros. 00:57:34 Speaker 3: If I saw one more back to back and standing at the camera, Oh my testosterone, what do you think of this very loving song about being male besties in an auto graveyard? 00:57:44 Speaker 1: What did you think about this? 00:57:44 Speaker 2: And Marina, this is my absolute face. 00:57:48 Speaker 1: You loved this, didn't I knew it? I knew it. 00:57:52 Speaker 2: I loved it. I'm not afraid to say it. You got zach Efron Corbyn Blue killing it. By the way, the dancing skills were unreal, the amount of sets, the creativity. Yes, they did a lot of back to back, but I was in every single time. This was like. This to me was like, oh my gosh, I want to see a real life version on a stage of this performance, like this is it, this is done, done done. I loved this one. I have to say loved it. 00:58:32 Speaker 1: I did too. It's the she it is reeks of cheese. This this, this. 00:58:37 Speaker 3: Entire dance segment should have been sponsored by Velveta. 00:58:40 Speaker 1: That being said, I was in. I love seeing how. 00:58:45 Speaker 3: Again it's the mind of Kenny Ortega, where you see everyday objects is different, so like using the tire and like rolling over the tires and doing stuff like in sequence totally. 00:58:54 Speaker 2: I loved the young moment of them, like thinking like it brought nostalgia exactly when they were besties, when they were little, and. 00:59:03 Speaker 1: Chad come in as a little It's very cute. 00:59:05 Speaker 2: The only thing I can at all say, why did we have to put a bandana on Troy Bolton? Why did there need to beat He's never worn one even on his wrist or as a scar. 00:59:26 Speaker 1: It's the best. 00:59:28 Speaker 3: Looks like he's like a survivor, remember, because he's nice. There you go, the one that's. 00:59:40 Speaker 2: Yes him. The steering wheel that they used like that went, I mean, there was it was just like I rewound it and watched it three times, like it was so good. This was Kenny Ortega, Like, this was not a because you know, I love these big numbers, but what I loved about this one is it brought more of classical vibes in the sense of like this wasn't like a full blown like hip hop like we see like the ones I love from Zombies, Right, this wasn't that style of dancing. It was like more like a newsy style of dancing with a little bit of edge to it. Yeah, I watched it three times. It was so good, and I'm as soon as we're doing I'm gonna go watch it a couple of mo because it's so so good. 01:00:22 Speaker 1: Once I got it. 01:00:23 Speaker 3: Once I got it, it got a standing ovation for me at the end some laughter involved. But this was absolutely a dance number made for eleven year old girls. 01:00:35 Speaker 2: Yes, and I can't think about talk about we already said it, but think about at the premiere night of this movie, what happened in that theaters have gone my god, there were Braswyan there and it wasn't the little kids, it was the mom's in the song. Everyone went why. 01:01:01 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they ended like back to back looking at the camera, and they got a standing ovation. 01:01:05 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Those two guys too committed to it in the opening routine and in this routine, like. 01:01:13 Speaker 3: They know what this is. Yeah, they're not apologizing for it. They know what high school musical is. They're not trying to pretend that it's anything but a musical for twelve year old girls. It's a fantasy for twelve year old girls. And they're like, I'm this is what we've got. 01:01:28 Speaker 2: It works, so all right, so good. 01:01:31 Speaker 3: So it ends, and Troy admits he's not sure what he'll do if he gets, you know, the Juilliard scholarship. Similarly, Gabrielle isn't sure about missing the musical for the early Stanford program. She may even want to stay in Albuquerque next year, taking classes at u of A and then transfer later. Taylor thinks she's only thinking about Troy and selling herself short, which she is. She promises there'll be other guys, as does Gabriella's mom. 01:01:53 Speaker 2: This is the first time I realized that you of a University of alb Quoque. I forgot that's where they were the whole time. I'm thinking you of a like in Arizona. 01:02:05 Speaker 1: Like of Arizona. 01:02:06 Speaker 3: Ya, No, it's versity of Albuquerque, alboqu or QUEI thank you very much. On the other side of town, Troy and Chad's families are having dinner together, planning out the upcoming u of a basketball season. 01:02:19 Speaker 1: But Troy obviously has a lot in his mind. 01:02:20 Speaker 3: He spends the rest of his night in his treehouse that magically appeared out of nowhere that nobody's seen, knowing he could definitely end up letting his parents down. This leads to a reprise of right here, Right Now, with him and Gabriella facing the same dilemma at their respective homes. The next day, It's Gotten Again sixty two songs in I'm blowing right past It. The next day at school, Troy rushes to his locker and gets a jump scare from Sharpey. She sneakily reveals the news about Gabriella and how she might miss the musical for Stanford. He admits in you nothing about it, and Sharpey encourages him to let her go. He wouldn't want to be the reason she misses it. 01:02:51 Speaker 2: She says, Niggae, Oh, she is so. 01:02:53 Speaker 3: That night, he surprises Gabriella with pizza and chocolate covered strawberries at her house. He admits he's disappointed he didn't know about the stamp program and learning it from Sharpey, which is like, dude, at. 01:03:02 Speaker 1: Least let me know. 01:03:04 Speaker 3: But she reveals her idea about possibly staying in Albuquerque for an extra year, and Troy isn't sold. She has to go to Stanford, which I love this storyline. It's like, you can't not go to Stanford. Yes, Yet she wants to just slow everything down. They both have a lot to think about, and this leads to yet another song. And this is when I was like, oh, they're coming every thirty seconds now. Gabriella solo walk away a power ode to her dilemma with Troy and knowing all good things have to come to an end. And then mere seconds later her house is for sale. They're moving away. What the just happened? This is not how real estate works. What's going on? 01:03:37 Speaker 2: But I don't know. That's one of my pretty seasons, Like wait did like but I also at this point go, okay, I'm looking at it. We're like only halfway. I cannot stop and rewind and try to figure out what I missed because I got to get through this movie. Now you didn't miss an I miss something like how did her house is for sale? And then I'm trying to think of her backstory of how she got to Albuquerque? Is she a military kid? Like I had to take like pause for a second and go, what's going on? 01:04:06 Speaker 1: Yeah? I don't, I don't get it. 01:04:09 Speaker 2: The house is now for sale. That wasn't said at all before. She was just gonna go early. Why does that mean that? 01:04:17 Speaker 1: I don't? 01:04:18 Speaker 3: I don't, And then all of a sudden, it was it was the same thing I'm watching, and I'm like. 01:04:21 Speaker 1: Oh man, she's got to decide what that Wait, she's in the truck. 01:04:23 Speaker 2: The house is gone, and she's gone, and she's so. 01:04:27 Speaker 1: Is coming to Stanford with her? 01:04:30 Speaker 2: That's what I mean, Like, I doesn't make it. Yeah, okay, okay, so we that made me feel better? 01:04:35 Speaker 1: Okay, good? You know we're both lost because I didn't do it. 01:04:38 Speaker 3: And so the next day at musical rehearsal, it's announced that Gabriella is no longer available, but the show must go on Sharpay and Tierra will split up her parts. That night, Troy's pouting while playing basketball at home when he's joined by his dad love a good Troy coach Coach Bolton scene was waiting for this. They talk about Gabriella for a bit, but then Coach Bolton reveals he knows about Julliard and the fact that Troy is talking to other schools and he isn't happy being left in the dark. Troy pushes back, he isn't a little kidneymore and I wanted to say it like that. He makes he gets to make his own decisions. Now he storms off, just as an actual storm is rumbling. 01:05:15 Speaker 1: People, We've got a metaphor. 01:05:17 Speaker 3: Troy drives off to the high school gym in the middle of the night to put on his Wildcatch jersey and he wants to expose his buff arms and our producers are freaking out, and then he starts to sing our next song, the guitar Jam Scream. This one involves him on the court, dodging basketball like rain drops and stressing about his future in a rotating locker room. What did you think about this song, Sabrina. 01:05:39 Speaker 2: Well, I have a little tidbit about this song that I've heard from interviews with Chucky Clay Powell, which please, Chuck you come on our podcast here because we have so many could ask you a million questions about a million things with this. I saw a lot of his influence within a lot of this choreography because he's he is a phenomenal choreographer, and I saw a lot of his style into this, and this was one of the routines. One thing though, that I know he talked about and I'm not sure because he actually did Bart's show. He was an interview on the show as well, and I'm not sure if it was said on this interview or not, or if I've heard it from a different one. He's done where the when the balls are coming down in this court scene and he's like having to kick him. That was all choreographed and that was chucky having he was up on a rig having to throw the balls and give it to the side. Yeah, isn't that a cool like thing? 01:06:32 Speaker 1: To think of? 01:06:32 Speaker 2: How they were doing that and filming that. It was. I will say Zach committed to this. He did, he went full blown. I think his commitment and the idea. It was also executed better than when we found ourselves on the golf course. 01:06:49 Speaker 1: No, it was not that golf course scene. 01:06:54 Speaker 3: Will forever live redfree in my head, when you're singing yourself in a puddle. 01:06:59 Speaker 1: Nothing beat that for me. 01:07:01 Speaker 2: Ever, for me, this was a better execution of it. I liked this solo routine for him much better. I thought we kept changing locations of where we were in the school so much, which was very cool, very creative, right, And you know, I liked it. Did I do I remember at all what the song sounds like? Not at all at this point. Too many, I'm drained a little bit many, and we already got my favorite song. So that's a hook line and sinker. I'm not sure how much better it's gonna get, but yes that. I loved the rotating that they had. That was very very cool and very hard to do, and I thought he did it amazingly, Like I thought, Zach looked so great in this performance, and I really liked it. I just wish I would have I could remember the songs at this point. This is getting a little bit too many of them at this point in the movie, But I liked it. 01:07:59 Speaker 1: Such fan service. 01:08:00 Speaker 3: You need an angsty Troy by himself, like like you need a Gabriella. Uh, you know song about just a ballad, sobfest, you also needed angry Troy, sweaty basketball running. 01:08:13 Speaker 2: On, Yes, you needed it, and this one I think levels up. I think it leveled up from the thing in a big way. In in a great way as well. So what did you think you like? 01:08:26 Speaker 1: Again, it's there. 01:08:27 Speaker 3: It's so cheesy, but but again, that's what they're there for. That, that's what the audience is there for. The young kids watching this are there to see Troy losing it and he needs to be angry and angst filled and in a weird place. I mean again, you harken back to the golf course thing. So yeah, I mean they they saw all the stuff that worked in the first three, the first two, and they heightened them for for three. 01:08:52 Speaker 1: And you know, that's what you're supposed to do. I can see why the audience loved what was going on, So yes, it was there. We go. 01:09:01 Speaker 3: The track ends in a very sweaty Troy, this guy's been sweaty forever, ends up in the theater, only to see the theater teacher, Miss Die also there. Late, she's trying to figure out the show now with Gabriella gone, and she admits she's the one who sent in Troy's Juilliard application. She thinks he's a natural, and she tells him to trust his instincts. She also tells him she's had a crush on him since he was a freshman. I'm kidding, that would have been weird. The next day rehearsal, while Gabriella studies at Stanford, Troy is getting to know his new musical partner, Sharpey, and it is not going super great. It's just not the same without Gabriella. She was the glue keeping it all together. 01:09:36 Speaker 2: I love the one liners too, like it's easier to do this with you. 01:09:41 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. 01:09:43 Speaker 2: The one liners they throw out about her are so funny. They're just so so funny. 01:09:48 Speaker 1: There are some good there's some decent laughs in this movie. There are. 01:09:57 Speaker 3: At home, Troy has picked up his tucks and is showing a off to his mom when Gabriella calls. 01:10:01 Speaker 1: They need to talk, and, as any man knows, you love hearing those words. Promise in two days. But she's gotten used to Stanford. 01:10:08 Speaker 3: She doesn't think it's smart to start and stop by coming home, which is a complete in total one adye from her not wanting to leave two days ago. She thinks she's run out of good byes. She loves him, but she's never coming back, news that Chad calls lousy while also encouraging Troy to snap out of it. It's like, hey man, it's been an hour, get over it. But Troy, who will now go to PRAM alone, isn't so sure he can. It's just like, I'm never coming home, Troy. I've been gone thirty six hours and I don't have any more goodbyes. Yeah. 01:10:39 Speaker 2: This conversation between Chad and Troy is so on par of like two boys talking about their high school girlfriends and they're about to go off to college. He literally says, you don't take them with you? 01:10:51 Speaker 1: No, exactly, I know the number of girls you're gonna meet it college. 01:10:55 Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't. You break up lasted through the summer, baby, have someone to chat with for a couple of weeks. Yeah, then you find your next girl, probably by the end orientation, and you're good. That is such an actual conversation guys have, and I made me just want to ooh Chad, ooh. 01:11:16 Speaker 1: Chadhod she's the one who bailed. How is in Chad's fault. She's like, I don't want to see you anymore. 01:11:21 Speaker 2: Oh so it's oh wow, she don't mean it. 01:11:25 Speaker 3: We will talk about this off, Mike, Sabrina, we will talk about this off, Mike. 01:11:30 Speaker 1: Uh so funny. 01:11:31 Speaker 3: So back at Stanford, Gabrielle sees Troy's truck, then is surprised to spot Troy standing well on a. 01:11:37 Speaker 1: Tree wearing his tuxedo. 01:11:39 Speaker 3: This would also be a great scene to start a horror movie about him trying to kill her because he can't have her. But in this movie, he says he took a wrong turn on the way to prom and she says he looks handsome. He calls his problem wherever she is, and they have their final dance to a reprise of Can I have this Dance? It ends with what Sabrina has been asking for the whole time, a big passionate kiss. 01:11:57 Speaker 1: It's a bit horned up for a DCM if you ask me, and. 01:12:01 Speaker 2: He says, this is a theater movie. It's in the theaters. I thought it was great. It didn't freak me out like our girl Christy Carls, which will always always be the standard. 01:12:16 Speaker 1: It is just Christy tonguing down the guy that she's yes. 01:12:19 Speaker 2: But this was like what I loved about it too, because I was a fan of them as a couple, like a real life couple, and it was like when they were doing I'm like, oh, like they really do actually kiss. 01:12:28 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't take so natural the chemistry. 01:12:32 Speaker 2: A door one just made me go, man, I really did love them. They're both happy, I know, but like in this moment when they were together, Oh wow, such a sweet moment. 01:12:42 Speaker 3: And again, you cannot fake that kind of chemistry. It's now the big night of the musical and Rocketman gets a text from a rocketman. 01:12:48 Speaker 1: This guy's still gets a text from Troy. 01:12:51 Speaker 3: He's been driving all night and we'll try to make it to the second act, which means a terrified Rocketman finds out he's going on just as the Juilliard Scouts ride. The lights then dim and our show Senior Year begins. Kelsey and Ryan kick off the first song, last Chance and upbeat number, involving cheerleaders and basketball players and a theater full of friends and family who go absolutely in sane like they're watching the first ever Mattine of Hamilton. Meanwhile, Sharpey has no idea she'll be sharing the stage with none. 01:13:20 Speaker 1: Other than Rocketman. And do we know why they call him rocket Man? 01:13:24 Speaker 3: We never get int why they call him rocket Man? Ever, no Rocketman, and we're supposed to. 01:13:28 Speaker 2: I don't know if this is like Kenny Ortega, is like owe to uh Elton John John or what you can do a better rown? So random? 01:13:38 Speaker 1: It's so random anyway. 01:13:40 Speaker 3: The Juilliard rep seem impressed with Ryan run off the bat, but Sharpey is too self absorbed to even congratulate him when he walks off stage. 01:13:47 Speaker 1: And now it's time for the big Troy and Sharpey song just want to be with You. And when it's time for Troy to enter, there's a giant pause. Even Juilliard knows there's a problem. 01:13:56 Speaker 3: But then Rocketman enters to save the day, dressed like Steve Tyler if he was a pimp. 01:14:03 Speaker 2: This isn't even this kid's style like that. I don't know what was that. I didn't understand it for one second. 01:14:10 Speaker 1: Me neither sharpe is weirded out. 01:14:12 Speaker 3: But it's, you know, playing like a comedy, and the audience frankly loves it. And as Sharpei furiously returns to her dressing room, Troy and Gabriella arrive. They bump into each other, and Sharpei finds her assistant, Tiara Gold in the dressing room, ready to steal her boss's role and position. Frankly, in the drama department, Sharpei has been double crossed. Back in the theater, though, Troy and Gabriella have taken over, now belting out just want to be with you how it was supposed to be performed. Even Julliard is all year Okay, so I'm sorry before I go any further. 01:14:42 Speaker 1: So they're just singing the same exact song over again. 01:14:44 Speaker 3: Yes, so now it's two songs, and it was a comedy version and the regular version, but the audience loves it. Okay, I'm just making sure i'd got that right, Like I think this is exactly the same song. They're just doing it again, okay. So they're singing it how it was supposed to be performed. Even Julliard is all ears and clapping along, but Sharpei is still in her dressing room, talking to herself in the mirror like an insane person. 01:15:02 Speaker 1: She is not done yet, and then we. 01:15:05 Speaker 3: Get her reprize of a night to remember now with Sharpey and tiar are both on stage playing the one role battling it out, and this is also a big hit with the audience. 01:15:12 Speaker 1: What luck. 01:15:13 Speaker 3: But it was very funny to see them kind of trying to one up each other. Juilliard has now left their seats and met with Miss de Just as the finale number begins, all of the seniors are on stage in cap and gown and they're introduced one by one. First up as Kelsey, who is revealed she wins. She won the Juilliard scholar That's amazing, she's the recipient. 01:15:31 Speaker 1: That makes sense. She did great, great pick. 01:15:33 Speaker 3: And then Miss d announces a remarkable adjustment by Juilliard. Another senior is being offered the scholarship. It's Ryan Evans for his choreography rightfully, so he killed it. 01:15:44 Speaker 1: He's the little Kenny or take up. Sharpey will also. 01:15:46 Speaker 3: Be returning to East High next year to help run the drama department, which of course infuriates Tiara, who thought she was going to be taking over. Troy is then singled out as someone who has to make a decision and I was like, really, you got to call this guy to the front of the stage in front of the entire school and. 01:16:01 Speaker 2: Everybody musical at the. 01:16:04 Speaker 3: Choose the rest of your life now, Troy right choose it. In front of everyone, he announces that he's chosen basketball and theater. What the audience goes absolutely bet like it's the Beatles on Ed Sullivan. 01:16:18 Speaker 1: Troy has made his decision. 01:16:21 Speaker 3: But UC Berkeley has offered Troy the opportunity to play basketball and perform in their theater program. And so that's where he's going to be attending. And it's only thirty two points seven miles from Stanford and his inspiration, Gabriella Montez, who's really pissed because she already has a side piece. 01:16:37 Speaker 1: He twirls her as place. 01:16:39 Speaker 2: She didn't want to come home. 01:16:40 Speaker 3: She did want to come home, Yeah, exactly, she met somebody else who can sing and dance even better. 01:16:46 Speaker 2: Uh that's plays the drums. 01:16:48 Speaker 1: He plays the drums, he sings, he dances and plays football, not basketball, Troy. 01:16:54 Speaker 3: Yes, so, uh god, I was so emotional at this point from one of our producers. Oh my god, I love how into that they get. It's sober okay, So he twirls. Gabriella is very happy, but as Chad is announced he's nowhere to be found. Troy runs off to find him alone in the gym, shooting hoops, but it turns out he's not mad. He's actually excited to play Berkeley in November. They share a competitive smile and a fist bump. They should have just stood back to back for no reason. Just as Troy's dad enters telling them to get back on stage asap, they hug for a final print. I'll see lit of approval for the decision. We jump into the big outdoor graduation ceremony where Troy is giving a commencement speech, wrapping everything up with the bow. East High has created friends forever, and they really are all in this together. Once a wildcat, always a wildcat. By this point, I'm sure our producers were sobbing messes, just crying hysterically. And then we get one final number which was a massive yet they're saying correct, just crying hysterically. Oh my god, one massive final graduation song with a ton of moving parts and all of our characters together for a big finale called High School Musical. This is real send off for what is unkniably the biggest hit in Disney Channel history. So, Sabrina, what did you think of the last track? And Kenny O'tega's just banger for the finale? 01:18:20 Speaker 2: I mean again, so you know, I loved what they chose to do with the big with having the two gowns, and that really aided in them having some very fun visuals while they're in the seats where they have East having Ian and h and then they do the Wildcat like all of that stuff. It's just everything that they're done is it's so thought out and so well placed and so the energy of it. And you could tell what I love the most with this number was the actors celebrating this brand like this was them celebrating like the years of success that the high School Musical brand has had, and they look like they were having the time of their lives filming this, and that they were all so grateful for everything that this brand brought them. And for me having to be able to see that as an audience member and knowing like that these kids work their butts off but they got so much was just it was a really amazing way to wrap up this franchise. I loved it, hands down. 01:19:27 Speaker 3: I agree, because they we literally end with a fourth wall breaking curtain call where the stars all walk out, they get a close up and they bow and it's very nice. Yeah, it's a great way to end the movie, if not the franchise. Who knows that there's going to be a high school musical for this time? 01:19:42 Speaker 2: It's personally for now and at this point in their careers. That was it like, Okay, we're going to do a third one. Yep, that's what we said we would do, and now we want to move on to other things in our careers. That was definitely the sentiment of where these actors were at this point. However, I loved that that you could tell they were still very, very great for what they musical. 01:20:02 Speaker 3: Brought them and they took a big bow and that is our movie. 01:20:05 Speaker 1: Oh wait at this point. 01:20:07 Speaker 3: So oh that at this point the new kids had signed contracts for multiple pictures in the show. 01:20:11 Speaker 1: Jemma said, okay, so interesting. We just got that little tidbit that. 01:20:14 Speaker 3: So Rocketman and Gemma and the newer characters that were felt were being foisted upon us, I'd sign multi picture deals to go do the new high school musicals, which then they did the high School Musical, The Musical, The musical the show the musical the musical? 01:20:28 Speaker 2: Are they in the Are they in the the show? Are either of those characters in the show? 01:20:34 Speaker 1: We're going to find out seconds. 01:20:36 Speaker 2: Who's going to be the first one? 01:20:37 Speaker 1: No? They're no interesting? 01:20:39 Speaker 2: Wow, so geez, Okay, that's crazy. 01:20:42 Speaker 1: People probably didn't want to see that. So it's supposed to happen right after this movie and it didn't. Okay, well that makes sense. Let's do some real reviews. 01:20:56 Speaker 3: I've got the one star review, and if you thought the movie was, this review is wait for. 01:21:02 Speaker 1: This review one star from Owana Ta here we go. Bear with me. 01:21:09 Speaker 3: My roommate is watching this movie right now, forcing me to listen to the dreadful dialogue and songs. Why would anyone like this pathetic excuse for a movie. There's no originality in the script, no humor, no nothing, so I wonder why the success the movie is predictable. The actors aren't that great, and the main character, who I believe is supposed to be some big jock, is wearing more makeup than a five year old girl who. 01:21:28 Speaker 1: Just discovered her mother's makeup kit. 01:21:30 Speaker 3: The characters are incredibly boring and totally lack complexity, and when did high school teenagers behave like that, because most definitely they don't act this way nowadays. Unless you're under eleven, there's absolutely no reason to waste two hours of your life watching this. Actually, I wouldn't even allow children to see this movie because. 01:21:46 Speaker 1: It totally distorts reality. One star. 01:21:50 Speaker 3: Uh, you spent an awful lot of time talking about something you didn't like, right. I disagree with most of what you said. 01:22:01 Speaker 2: So there, What do you have for the. 01:22:04 Speaker 1: Five star this week? Sabrina? 01:22:05 Speaker 2: The five stars opposite very short and weird. Still five star is from Jeremiah, You losers? What were you expecting, miss Saigon? Five Star? 01:22:21 Speaker 1: I still don't get it. 01:22:22 Speaker 2: I don't get it. I don't know. If this was like a response to other people's. 01:22:27 Speaker 1: It must have been that. 01:22:29 Speaker 2: I don't know. 01:22:30 Speaker 1: I don't know. 01:22:30 Speaker 3: Anyway, we now come to Sabrina's favorite part of the program, a feature game that we play every single. 01:22:35 Speaker 1: Week that lets us know that we're stupid. 01:22:38 Speaker 2: Uh. 01:22:38 Speaker 3: The one this week is called Teacher Teacher. So High School Musical may have launched Zaffron and Vanessa Hudgens into superstar and but let's give it up for the real MVP. The wildly underappreciated. Miss Darbis aka Miss d brought to life by actress Alison Reed, who is a veteran of a chorus line in Oh God, you ever see that movie? 01:22:59 Speaker 2: She was, Yes, which role did she play? 01:23:02 Speaker 3: She was the lead? 01:23:03 Speaker 1: She was the main star. 01:23:04 Speaker 3: Trying to get into the into the chorus line. 01:23:08 Speaker 1: She was yeah, wow, yeah, she was great. Oh yeah, go watch again. She was incredible. 01:23:14 Speaker 3: Wow. 01:23:15 Speaker 1: Yeah she was Cassie. 01:23:16 Speaker 2: She was cast. 01:23:17 Speaker 1: Wasn't Cassie the lead lead? Wasn't she? 01:23:20 Speaker 3: Yeah? 01:23:20 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's the one in the red dress that has the like, Yeah, she's the lead. She's wow. Oh my gosh, that's amazing. 01:23:26 Speaker 1: Wait were you in a chorus line, Sabrina? 01:23:28 Speaker 2: I did a chorus line for Hollywood Bowl? Okay, I did Val? Do you know what song val is? 01:23:34 Speaker 1: No? Which one is it? 01:23:36 Speaker 2: It's called Tits And oh I do know? 01:23:40 Speaker 1: Great? Did you love doing it? 01:23:42 Speaker 2: Loved it? I still most favorite things I've ever done was. 01:23:46 Speaker 1: As a kid. 01:23:47 Speaker 3: I still remember watching that movie and a thinking how great Michael Douglas was. But be the song I can do? That was still one of my favorite. The guy, the actor who did it in the movie was so freaking good and just ripping all over the stage and also doing like some martial arts moves. 01:24:03 Speaker 1: It was awesome. But anyway, we're off on try. We're trying to do a feature game here. 01:24:09 Speaker 2: Flowed Away's cool. 01:24:10 Speaker 3: Let's watch Step Up three? Anyway, So okay, I'm gonna start this over. 01:24:14 Speaker 1: People. You do not have to cut any of this. But the Wildcats hype, No one ever talks about the. 01:24:18 Speaker 3: Drama teacher who kept the chaos and on track and helped Troy realize his passions in the end, which got us thinking, what about all the other overlooked teachers across movies and TV? So we're gonna get the name of a teacher and we have to pick a movie they appeared in from the list of options three, we had a five wins, and then we make the honor roll. 01:24:33 Speaker 1: Who are we playing with today? 01:24:34 Speaker 2: You got MIKAELA. 01:24:35 Speaker 1: Hey, Michael, are you still crying over the end of High School Musical three? 01:24:39 Speaker 5: I am so emotional, like every single time I watched this movie like chill like I. 01:24:48 Speaker 1: So wait. 01:24:49 Speaker 3: I have to ask you then, as a super fan, what was your favorite like dance and singing number of the of three? 01:24:55 Speaker 5: Can I have this dance is probably going to be my first dance wedding song. 01:24:59 Speaker 1: Think, wait, can I have this dance? That's what you're gonna dance? Oh my god? Are you gonna get? Are you gonna get? Troy Bolton? Then Gabriella Montes to sing it for you. 01:25:11 Speaker 5: If that could happen, will that would be a dream, but I doubt that would actually. 01:25:18 Speaker 2: Let's be playing on a screen behind her as. 01:25:22 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what. I'll play Troy. 01:25:26 Speaker 3: I'll play Troy, and Sabrina will play Gabriella and we'll sing it for you for your first wedding dats. 01:25:30 Speaker 2: There you go, We'll do that. 01:25:32 Speaker 3: The problem can actually sing, so that's gonna be a problem. Okay, so three out of five we make the odd role. The first character name Dewey Finn. Is that a teacher from A She's All That B School of Rock C Election or D Ferris Bueller's Day. 01:25:49 Speaker 2: Off B School of Rock. 01:25:52 Speaker 1: I'm gonna agree with you B School of Rock? 01:25:54 Speaker 2: Correct? 01:25:55 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, number two, Terrence Fletcher. Is it a whiplash B stand Deliver see Varsity Blues or D Mean Girls. I've never seen whiplash, which makes me think that maybe it's Whiplash. 01:26:12 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Varsity Blues. 01:26:14 Speaker 3: It's a yeah, that's right. Whip Whiplash is the drumming movie with what's his name? 01:26:23 Speaker 1: JK. 01:26:23 Speaker 3: Simmons won the won the Academy Award for it. Yeahs not Miles. 01:26:29 Speaker 1: What's the guy? Yeah, Miles. Isn't his name Miles the Miles Telford. I think his name is top gun Teller. 01:26:36 Speaker 3: Yeah. He was apparently phenomenal. Apparently it's absolutely insanely good. I have to watch it. It's some of the best acting performances in like the last decade. 01:26:44 Speaker 1: Apparently. 01:26:45 Speaker 2: Wow. 01:26:46 Speaker 3: Number three principal McGee is that a Carrie B Billy Madison see Grease or D Ten Things I Hate about You Sabrina. 01:26:56 Speaker 2: D Ten Things I Hate about You? 01:26:59 Speaker 1: I'm gonna agree. 01:27:02 Speaker 5: No, it is Greece. 01:27:05 Speaker 2: It was like good oh man, Okay. 01:27:09 Speaker 3: Number four mister Hall A breakfast Club B Kindergarten cop C Clueless or D Fast Times at Ridgemont High. Mister hand was Fast Times. Mister Hall, that wasn't the principal and breakfast club was his name? 01:27:28 Speaker 2: Mister Hall B Kindergarten cop was it? Yeah, mister hall. 01:27:35 Speaker 3: Okay, you think that was Schwarzenegger and Kindergarten cop, I'm gonna say, I'm mister hand was I'm gonna say A no, I'm gonna say C clueless. 01:27:46 Speaker 2: C clue, Yes it is, damn it. 01:27:50 Speaker 1: I already read all right, and number. 01:27:53 Speaker 2: Five I already lost number five? 01:27:56 Speaker 3: Leu Anne Johnson? Is that a Napoleon Dynamite? B? Dangerous Minds? See super Bad or d Donnie Darko? 01:28:03 Speaker 1: What do you got? 01:28:05 Speaker 2: I Luienne Johnson super Bad? 01:28:15 Speaker 1: Okay, I actually know this one. 01:28:16 Speaker 3: It's be Dangerous Minds because she was a real teacher and she wrote a book about this and they based the book on her life, so be. 01:28:23 Speaker 2: Yeah, will is correct? 01:28:25 Speaker 3: Wow? Yes? Oh? 01:28:27 Speaker 2: Can we talk about this list of movies right here? 01:28:30 Speaker 3: Like? 01:28:30 Speaker 2: Can this be one season of Magical? 01:28:35 Speaker 1: So good? 01:28:36 Speaker 2: Holy cow? 01:28:37 Speaker 1: Can we do a Sabrina Cease please? 01:28:42 Speaker 2: Oh man? Okay, yes, I'm gonna try to fly through them. So the first thing I just put was looking for familiar faces, like because there was like a whole, like just giant gym nasium of all of our people, and you're just like looking at looking out and I kept going, oh yeah, bart check, oh yeah, Casey check. Oh yeah, and it's like everyone, you know what, everyone Corb and all of the ones We've interviewed, all the ones Bart's interviewed. It was just so great to see everyone on screen. So I loved that, you know, I loved that first thing I thought, and I didn't even care, and I thought you were going to ask me about the cheerleaders because they were not cheerleading at all. They were definitely just dancing. But it was okay for me because I loved everything about it. How amazing was Sharpay's locker? You just bru breezed right over that. That was the coolest that that moment felt like a moment that I'm sure was this generation's clueless closet moment. For me, I could see, like thess clueless closet moment of what I always dreamed of having as a closet was this girl's locker, Like right, I mean, that was just so amazing. I don't know if I put this down if I did the tidbit in any of the other movies, but you know that that little dog that she has was Fanny's actual dog. 01:30:00 Speaker 3: Yes, I think I knew that, Okay, all right, didn't he tell us that I don't. 01:30:05 Speaker 1: I can't remember. 01:30:06 Speaker 2: I don't think so you don't think I must have told you then, because that was definitely like a big deal, like this dog was like featured and done so cute and in both this movie and the last movie rocket Man. Now, not because of anything with this actor in any sense, but I would like an opportunity to recast him and put Mitchell Musso in that great Was he too old? 01:30:33 Speaker 3: He would have been too old though he's supposed to be a freshman. I guess maybe back in the day it would have worked two thousand and eight. 01:30:40 Speaker 2: He probably would have looked into you just don't make him a freshman, you make him choice backup, you just make him like a junior. He's right around that same age. He could remember Hannah Montana was after like Cheeah girls in high school musical like that was like, yeah, he would we were a little bit younger, so he would have been aged fine, maybe not a freshman, but he would have been so funny and shout out again, Mitchell, we'd love to have you on. 01:31:04 Speaker 1: Get on here, Musha. 01:31:06 Speaker 2: Oh man. Okay, I had to make comments of things I wanted to say about these so the Sabrina a little okay, kind of sad that Sharpay shows up in a convertible and then her brother, who's his her twin, her brother Ryan shows. 01:31:23 Speaker 3: Up in like a moped, like, oh no, their parents hate him? 01:31:28 Speaker 2: Why do they hate him? 01:31:29 Speaker 1: He's the he's not the good kid. Their parents hate him? 01:31:33 Speaker 2: Oh my god, though was the saddest thing. Okay, I had a your my stand up just had just died over? Was yours was Gabriella rising above mine was Patrick? And although I loved this routine or this this performance when Zach is going through and then he ends up in he ends up in the theater, right, and like I love it. He jumps on these ropes and you're like, that's such a cool idea because especially like when you're on like a sound stage and they've got all these ropes and stuff that things come down and whatever, and he jumps on the ropes and he's using them and then he like faces the ropes and he just like plunge dives into a bath. You can't even talk. It was just one step too far. 01:32:40 Speaker 1: He jumps in and. 01:32:41 Speaker 2: He's literally like on the ropes and he just like are just yes, he's full eggs. Oh that was the part where I literally just like lost. It was so good. I literally, oh god, it was amazing. And then again her house for sale. I just need to know what scene was cut that made it where that didn't make sense at all because it's never brought up again. We have no idea where she's living, where her parents are if everyone's okay. 01:33:18 Speaker 1: No, it's like, what the hell's happening? Yes? 01:33:21 Speaker 2: And then okay, so did you see the get in the picture Winner and what they got? Did you? Did you see that at the end? Okay, you have to watch the credits. So I remember this two hours Sabrina, I know, I remember this. This was basically at this point just playing on my TV. I just didn't turn it off and waiting for bloopers because they had some good bloopers. It was cute at the end. 01:33:47 Speaker 1: Oh I don't even know that. 01:33:49 Speaker 2: Okay, So it's a music video. It's like in the gym. It's it's using their set, but it's with this this guy and like a couple of these other like Pete like answers are in it, and it's like this like but it's just playing while the credits are going, and I remember this comp this uh uh, what would that be considered like this like enter to win type situation. 01:34:13 Speaker 1: Like it was a competition, competition. 01:34:15 Speaker 2: Talent show. I guess yeah, it'd be blowing up. I mean, this wasn't a chance to be on high school musical theory like it was. So it was promoted and so big, and then it kind of made me sad because I was like, he got like a music video, which is great because you see him on his own, but it's during the credits like I would have thought he would have somewhere he could have been rocket Man or like a small, small, tiny tiny part or like right next to right in between you know, Troy and Chad during one of the moments of their dancing or something like that. It was very strange to me that it's just kind of like how big this competition was promoted and then it was like just a little like video that's like going as the credits are going. It doesn't really makes sense. It's not introduced or anything, it just happens. So that kind of made me go, what, like that was like a missed opportunity for them to do something a little bit bigger than what I think they could have with this giant competition the right with the g one, and that was it. I mean to the point where I didn't even really understand. I didn't put that two together until I started reading like the like producing in the background stuff. I was like, Oh, that's what that was. I remember that. Yeah, because otherwise it's just random because it's not Troy. 01:35:28 Speaker 1: No, it is certainly not Troy. 01:35:30 Speaker 2: It was not Troy. 01:35:31 Speaker 1: Here we go. 01:35:32 Speaker 3: Now comes to the portion of our program where we're going to rate the film we just saw, and because it's High School Musical and it's the third one and probably the end of the series, we're going to go one to ten, okay, and we're going to make ten the biggest one this time in deference to High School Musical. Our options this week one to ten quickest Halftime's ever, one to ten f us to Rocketman, Single White, Rocketman's weird roof, Greenhouses, one to ten houses for immediate say, one to ten storm metaphors, one to ten high school horror movies, or one to ten Stephen Tyler pimps or pimp Stephen Tyler's even one. 01:36:09 Speaker 1: Are there any other you'd like to throw on the list? There? 01:36:11 Speaker 2: I think one to ten back to back moments. Oh, I love that back to back back back, back. 01:36:17 Speaker 1: To back bros. 01:36:17 Speaker 3: One to ten, back to back bros. Sold I think you start this week. Can you score us on our one to ten back to back bros? How many back to back bros? 01:36:26 Speaker 1: Do you give this? 01:36:28 Speaker 2: Oh? My gosh, you know it's no surprise. I loved this movie. I thought it was so great. It gave me every single thing that I needed for this movie to have. I loved how it was such an ode to the fans. I loved that you you could feel the vibes that were on set throughout this whole movie. This was such a feel good, all around experience. And Kenny Ortega nailed this. There was not one moment of any of the routines that felt like, ugh, Nope, that wasn't it. Even the plunge back to the arch. Yeah, Zach's commitment to it sold it. So all right. This was brilliant. This was to me just like Kenny on his absolute A game. And I was there for it for every second except I would say, why I would take off a point is it was just too many times? Like you said, it got muddled a bit with the big numbers got a little muddled because there were a few too many small, insignificant ones. And so I'm giving this a nine. 01:37:49 Speaker 1: Trying to remember what you scored it. 01:37:50 Speaker 2: No, no, I'm saying I was like, should I do a nine point five? I'm giving this a nine point five? Okay, back to back Bro moments, moments, back to back Bro moments. 01:38:04 Speaker 1: Okay. Yes, I loved it. 01:38:09 Speaker 2: And seriously, just kudos to every single one of the actors in this movie. Every single one of them brought it and it was amazing. What about you will? 01:38:24 Speaker 1: Okay, let's be honest. 01:38:27 Speaker 3: The movie is too long. It's it's too long. There's too many songs. It does muddle. They start to blend. One ballad goes into the next ballad, all that kind of stuff. That being said, if you're in on the high school musical world, this is exactly how you wanted it to end. You wanted a long thing. You wanted a movie that just kept going. 01:38:52 Speaker 2: Why not long enough for that? 01:38:53 Speaker 1: Exactly? 01:38:54 Speaker 3: You wanted more songs you wanted So I get where they were going with this. It was a wonderful ode to the fans. Yes, and I completely intone. So if you're look if you walk in to High School Musical three having never seen a high school musical, and you're judging it just as a film. It's not gonna judge that high. You're gonna judge it five or six. Some of the story doesn't make any sense. The songs are every thirty seconds. It's like, what the hell is going she sold her house that fast? 01:39:25 Speaker 1: What I mean? 01:39:26 Speaker 3: So, but if you're in the high school musical world and you're a fan, and this is what you love, this was made for you, this. 01:39:34 Speaker 1: Is what this is. 01:39:35 Speaker 3: I mean to the point where the entire cast at the end walks to the front of the screen and looks at you and smiles and bows and says thank you for being here for three movies, like you couldn't ask for more as a high school musical fan. 01:39:47 Speaker 1: Right. 01:39:47 Speaker 3: So, and I like the first couple, you know, again knowing they're cheesy, but there's a commitment to the cheese, meaning like if you'r I find it cheesy as a fifty year old man, obviously I'm going to find a cheese he has a fifty year old man. But I can't watch these movies as like a fifty year old man. I'm trying not to. So if you're a fan of high school musical, it hit on all cylinders. I mean, Kenny Ortega is a genius. The dance numbers and everything he has happening are magical. You're watching them on different levels. You saw it in The Cheetah Girls, he directed for you. This is happening on the top, this is happening in the middle. It takes your eyes everywhere. They're colorful, You're toe tapping along with it. I'm standing up and clapping while I'm laughing for some of the cheesier moments. It's fully enjoyable. So while it's a little lower than you, it's not that much lower than you. And I'm gonna give it a nine bro moment standing back to back whatever the hell we called it, because this is back to back romans. Because again, if you're a high school musical fan, this is. 01:40:48 Speaker 1: What you want. 01:40:49 Speaker 3: I mean, you want the freaking Zach Effron is sweaty eighty percent of this movie and half of the time for no reason at all. 01:40:58 Speaker 1: The room is spinning for no reason at all. None of this makes sense. 01:41:01 Speaker 3: But then Ashley Tisdale walks on camera and she steals it and you're like, my god, she's so funny and she's so good and the choreography is good, and you're back with the characters you like again and seeing, so I'm in it is what it is. They commit to it every second that it's there. Right this, to me, this is gonna be such a weird analogy. High School Musical to me, is like Disneyland if you go strictly as an adult and all you're gonna do is complain about how hot it is and how much money it costs and how much of course it's gonna suck. If you do that same trip, but you bring a little kid, it becomes magical again. So I imagine if you sit and you watch High School if I had, like, you know, a young daughter who's ten or eleven years old, and she discovers high School Musical and you sit down and you watch this with her again, you discover the magic again of something like this, right, so, I you know it is what it is. 01:41:59 Speaker 1: It's school musical. It's in the freaking title, for God's. 01:42:02 Speaker 2: Sakes, So yeah, can saying it's like get in or get out like this is this is that kind of movie? Like it truly? And if you get in, you're gonna get it like. 01:42:13 Speaker 1: It's just it was. 01:42:16 Speaker 2: It was done exactly the way it should. It's done better than one of a lot of these reunion movies that keep coming out of great movies where they're like leaving out major characters that are such a huge aspect of the heart of the movie. Things like that. That's not what they did here. Now, the whole cast came back. They all did it. They all committed, they didn't care, and it was like everything and that's why this movie did what it did when it out. 01:42:44 Speaker 3: Hey, do I like to sendence zombies better overall as a as filmmaking and films, Yeah, I do. 01:42:50 Speaker 1: I think they're They're more in depth. 01:42:51 Speaker 3: I can also see that those wouldn't exist without High School Musical and the Chevy Girls and movies like that. 01:42:56 Speaker 1: So right, it was. It was. 01:42:59 Speaker 3: It should have been ninety three minutes long, ninety four minutes long. They should have cut out three of the songs. Other than that, it's is, it is what it is, and it was fun. Yeah, So thank you everybody for joining us for this ultra I love how we just kept talking. 01:43:12 Speaker 1: It's way too long. This episode is way too long. 01:43:14 Speaker 3: Talking about a movie that was way too long, and that's exactly how it should be. 01:43:18 Speaker 1: Our next movie. 01:43:19 Speaker 3: We're sticking to the musical genre, guys, because you know me, I'm the musical guy. Yeah, it's gonna be twenty tens teen drama starstruck. 01:43:28 Speaker 1: I know nothing about this. 01:43:29 Speaker 3: I'm oh God. I'm hoping it takes place in space, but I'm guessing it's not. It's available now to watch on Disney Plus. So get ahead, start and meet us back here next week. And don't forget. We have an absolutely full, two packed library of high school musical podcasting here at Magical Rewind. Tons of cast interviews and an entire breakdown from coach Bolten himself, Bart Johnson where he talks to Fanessa Hudgens, Kenny Ortega and so many vital pieces of the cast and crew. 01:43:51 Speaker 1: Seriously, go check it out. It is so worth it. 01:43:53 Speaker 3: Just search for Magical Rewind wherever you get your podcast and check it all out. And for more info, you can follow us at Magic Rewind Pod on the Magic Instagram machine, or just fax us. 01:44:03 Speaker 1: We'll give you that number later. 01:44:04 Speaker 3: Thanks everybody, Bye bye,
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