Afroman Teaches Us How to Eat Lemon Pound Cake & Win in Court (w. Afroman)

Brief Recess: A Legal Podcast with Michael Foote & Mélissa Malebranche

Michael and Mélissa discuss nuns doing podcasts, a record number of republicans retiring before midterms, Americans loving their gasoline, AI fruit soap opera sex, and interview Afroman to hear all the spicy details about getting sued by the police for defamation, winning in court, and his viral hit song: Lemon Pound Cake.

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00:00:06
Speaker 1: Welcome to Brief Recess. I'm Michael Foote, I'm Melissa Malbranch. Today we're going to be talking about nuns and their podcasts, politicians posturing for the midterm elections, the record number of Republicans who are retiring right now, Americans who love their gasoline, Melissa's Ai fruit, Telenevella's an interview with Afroman, the man behind the titular song Lemon pound Cake, and I'm going to answer all your burning questions from my DMS, so stick around. The only thing I know about the Latter Day Saints is like, what was on the commercial in the nineties. Do you remember that, like the infomocials that would come up? Well, since you've run it now, your algorithm is going to be have you seen the podcast of the Nuns. Let's get into a sidebar with the nuns Podcastle's what's happening with the nuns in America? Because there they taking a break from praying and podcasting. Everyone has a podcast. Now there are these two nuns. I'm obsessed. Are they inhabits and stuff? Yeah, they're in like the full WHOOPI Goldberg. They're doing yes, sister, It's like, are they being cheeky. It's edited to be cheeky. I don't know if they're intentionally being Are we sure that they're nuns? I mean I didn't, I didn't they say they're No, they say they're nuns, and it's like a faith based podcast. Oh okay, but they're they're always like sister tell me, and they tell like modern woman's stories from from the habit. Okay, yeah, I know you have a lot of non trauma from your life, so it probably doesn't hit as hard. It's like whatever. Anyway, So I used to I used to.

00:01:48
Speaker 2: I worked someplace where the office manager had been a nun and she became a nun because she was a lesbian and she was much older.

00:02:00
Speaker 1: And she had said that in her day, like when she became a nun because she was a lesbian.

00:02:06
Speaker 2: Yes, because her family would have expected her to get married. So she was so she was like, I don't know what I'm going to do, but I know for a fact that I don't want to be with a man.

00:02:15
Speaker 1: She was like, I'm a celebrity, Get me out of here house. And she was like, so I'm going to become a nun. Good for her?

00:02:20
Speaker 2: And so you know, I can't remember how long she wasn't nun for, but she said she met her first girlfriend, and.

00:02:29
Speaker 1: I would watch that next heated Rivalry season two. Oh yeah, back in the monastery? What is it?

00:02:35
Speaker 2: There are probably a lot of former nuns had that experience, right right?

00:02:40
Speaker 1: Is there like an is there team at the nunnery where.

00:02:46
Speaker 3: They maybe because that's the.

00:02:51
Speaker 4: Want to watch.

00:02:51
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I remember thinking that was really funny, like, oh, okay, and she was.

00:02:57
Speaker 1: She joined because she was like, I'm too gay. I'm gonna yes, imagine joining the sisterhood to like meet a girl.

00:03:04
Speaker 3: I mean that's a meet cue, isn't it? I would read, Yeah, I mean it's I.

00:03:08
Speaker 2: Am not surprised that, like nineteen fifty six that somebody who was a lesbian or a gay man would be like what am I going to do? I know, I'll be I'll be, you know, particly in a religious order.

00:03:21
Speaker 1: I was hooking up in college with one of the guys who was like in the like religious studies program, but he was just like studying it as like a scholar. And I remember for like was he out? Yeah okay? And I remember for spring break he went to a monastery for like a week, and I was like, I can't talk to my boyfriend. He's in the monastery. Wasn't it like a do you remember if it was a silent retreat? I think it was. I think it was a silent end of mine.

00:03:49
Speaker 2: Did a silent retreat. And he said that like day it was for ten days. Day three, he said he felt like he was losing his money. He said, fuck, but he's stayed. He stayed, and he was really happy that he did it.

00:04:04
Speaker 1: But he was like it was fucking hard, like.

00:04:07
Speaker 2: No books, no, no podcasting, no podcasting, miss us, no podcasting, no no books, no books.

00:04:16
Speaker 1: Oh, because some people move their lips when they read. No, that's probably why they do that. Can I tell you something When I was who was the worst? Remember when you were a little kid.

00:04:27
Speaker 2: I don't know if they If they did this when you were a kid, you would have to read something out loud, and everybody had a turn. So I always read faster, right, because I used to really like to read. So I would figure out where my poor heart, I would figure out where my point was, and I would like hold it and then if some kid whatever, I won't even say the name because I was in trouble, but like if some kid got stuck on a word, I would like, let's say the word was hippopotamus and the friend the kid was like, and I would and so Melissa, you can't do that.

00:05:03
Speaker 1: Sister Teresa was Sister.

00:05:05
Speaker 2: Mary Claire Claire and I would get so mad when the kid would.

00:05:11
Speaker 1: Like, be on a word, and I'm just like you freaking pet Anne. What just correcting all the kids that I would do it all the time. And I remember one time I asked the kids, I freaking know it all. And you still to this day will be like I told you, so, you still are. You've been that girl. You've always been that girl. Yes, even in Sister Mary Claire's class up. And so now I don't oh, I make no, that's who I am. She's gonna correct you, and I'm going to correct you and let the record reflect. Let the record reflect.

00:05:42
Speaker 2: And if you do something that I suggested that you not do and it fucks up, I'm going to say to you.

00:05:49
Speaker 1: I told you Alyssa. I said, that's her all the time. Should we call her, Let's see if she'll answer. She's not going to answer. She's going to be somewhere. That's the thing with Melissa, somewhere. She's not going to answer because you know what, she's probably on a plane.

00:06:05
Speaker 4: Yeah.

00:06:05
Speaker 1: See, all right, she got a third concussion this year. I know she did unbelievable. Asked.

00:06:12
Speaker 2: I was like, why do you keep on hitting your head? And she's like, I know it's not ideal.

00:06:19
Speaker 3: I know it's not ideal.

00:06:21
Speaker 1: So I got it out of her. I had to pull out full litigation strategies just to get the information out of her as to how she busted her head for a third time. She walked into a glass door in Miami.

00:06:34
Speaker 3: It was her glass door in her home, in her house. But let me take concerned about this is it is never her fault. She she was like, my friend closed the door. That door's always open. You leave the door open in your house.

00:06:48
Speaker 1: What do you text? I'm testing one USA immediately which door? Like what I mean? Was it like it was like the sliding glass door to the patio. Oh, and she walked into it hit her head again. And I found out about this because I called her and she was like, I'm driving and everything's really blurry. I was like, unless I get off the rope, pull over I have a neighbor.

00:07:08
Speaker 2: I have a neighbor who I can't remember why. Oh, he was upset because our building, we live in a condo, our building would not let him get an e bike.

00:07:17
Speaker 1: Oh because they explode or whatever. And he said, the right, that's why.

00:07:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I don't. E bikes explode a little bit like the lithium battery. Yes, yes, wow.

00:07:31
Speaker 2: And so he said that the reason why he wanted an e bike was because the DMV. Wait, wait, wait, the DMV was going to take away his driver's license because his vision was going. No, when I tell you, this man is still driving his car and I keep on looking at him, like, what are you doing?

00:07:51
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, it's going to be flying down the road on an e bike. Maybe I don't know what's worse. All of it is dangerous. You needship with uber or or something. Get off the fucking road. But I remember.

00:08:06
Speaker 2: Thinking before before my dad died, I was like, at some point, we're going to have to take his keys away from him and my you know what I'm saying, like, just you know, he wasn't by the time he passed away, he wasn't. Yeah, he wasn't there yet. But I remember just like looking at my dad. I was driving behind my dad once we were both going back to my parents' house.

00:08:28
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, man, man man, oh h oh, here we go. I remember driving around with my grandma and and I don't even think I knew how to drive yet. And I remember being like, this isn't how it's supposed to go. I don't think this is right. I don't think this is how you're supposed to park this car. I remember being like ten and being like that, that's not the way. You do know how that works. I don't want to be a backseat driver, however, Yeah, yeah, that's not how. I did have a yah Yah, but she was my great auntie was Yaya, but my grandmother is my grandmother. But Greek people have yayas, yeah, and Yaya. Towards the end, my mom would have to teach me how to make Yaya's cocktails because what was Yaya's cocktail? It's usually vodka water with ice, but towards the end, vodka, like just vodka and water with ice, yeah, in a bieball. But and I was I was little, and so they would have me as the bartender. And so because they wouldn't have to pay you, so, but Yaya. What they would do is, towards the end she couldn't drink. She wasn't supposed to drink that much on all their medications. They would have me just put a little bit of vodka on the top of the glass of water so that when she sipped it tasted like vodka, but it was really mostly water, mostly water.

00:09:42
Speaker 2: I have a relative who does that with her husband. She adds water to the wine so that he water sit down, water down.

00:09:52
Speaker 1: And I'm like, he doesn't, doesn't he know? And she was like no, there's a TikTok this week that really sent me to Jupiter. This girl was like, I know, they're watering down the gasoline at the they're watering down the gasoline with her on because it tastes different.

00:10:07
Speaker 5: Oh bitch, this is what I'm saying. Girl, like I weep for our nation, Like what is happening? She was like, it tastes different than the war, Like it's funny.

00:10:26
Speaker 1: But I'm also like, sugar, what did she really? I think she was really joking. Oh yeah, you see that show My Weird Addiction where she's eating the sofa cushion and she was, I didn't. And they're always, they're always the doctor is always sitting across from them like this. I have to tell you my strange addictions. Yeah, yeah, the doctor sitting across I have to tell you. The sofa cushion. If you keep eating it, it is gonna you're gonna have kidney failure and you'll die. And the person's always like shocked. I couldn't munch, munch, munch, nibbling away. What do you mean the cup of bleach I drank this morning.

00:11:08
Speaker 2: This is not a show that I watched, but my friend watched it and she made me watch a couple of episodes with her. But the one episode that I will never forget was this woman her husband had passed away and some of the ashes spilled and she started eating it.

00:11:25
Speaker 1: Okay, we're going to take a break. To god, I know it's fucking gross.

00:11:29
Speaker 2: And her whole thing was like she was afraid to like run out, don't like throw it away, Like I don't know what happened. The urn or whatever tipped over and she like tried to sweep it up and was like, I don't.

00:11:42
Speaker 1: Know, Okay, I don't know. If she's said I don't. I don't remember. Ashes tastes like ash whatever. Ash tastes like a man.

00:11:49
Speaker 2: People are not okay, that's not as why people are not. I mean this, why are you eating your sofa?

00:11:54
Speaker 1: Yeah?

00:11:55
Speaker 2: I mean like, what's what is happening right? What is happening in the home.

00:11:59
Speaker 1: What's happened? What's happening in the home? Nothing good? What's happening in my home? Actually this is not helping because my stomach is already a little bit weird. Why because Brad cooked and that's the thing, and this his last rites okay, because he was like, oh, I want to make a red sauce, like like like pasta. At two in the morning, I'm texting Charmaine I don't feel good because I called her when he was cooking, because I was like, please help me, Please keep me from going in the kitchen to fix whatever. He we know he's not doing it right right, And she was like, don't go in there. No, he would never watch anything I'm a part of. Go ahead. So she's like, don't go in there and and interrupt his flow. And so at two in the morning, I was texting her. I was like, I don't feel good. Is it something. Something is a miss in the what what do you think he did? I honestly don't want to know. I want to just recover and move on with stomach to be better. Okay, that's why. That's why I'm drinking a full fat coke and crackers today. That's what I've been eating. When was this last night?

00:13:11
Speaker 6: Oh?

00:13:11
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, what's going on in the home? What's going on in the home, Bradley? What'd you put in the sauce? I don't know. Let's take it put in the gravy. This is your algorithm is showing what's happening in your feed. Because the news has been freaky, deeky, wick, wicked and wild. It has It's been Action Park DC. Bless you, it's been an Action Park DC. It's allergy season. Actually, we've got to sneeze in the studio or.

00:13:39
Speaker 2: Maybe they feel uncomfortable so they sneezed. Stop anyway, go ahead.

00:13:50
Speaker 1: I feel really left out. I can't take sneeze. Yes you can. Oh, that's terrible. That was the best I could do.

00:13:57
Speaker 6: That.

00:13:57
Speaker 1: You need to work on. I'm gonna have at some point during recording the show one week, I will real sneeze because I went to the allergist. They did the test, everything, they left and came back and they were like, oh my god, they had to like do triage because my whole arm was like swollen. They were like, you're allergic to every type of tree pollen. And I was like, you didn't want to ease into it.

00:14:23
Speaker 4: You didn't do it.

00:14:24
Speaker 1: They do the whole thing. You want to do everything.

00:14:26
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know.

00:14:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I have to take crazy allergy medications. But anyway, speaking of things I'm allergic to, we should talk too, we should talk about what the Senate approved legislation to fund all of DHS except ICE and CBP. And then the House was like, no, they just like shut it down really fast. Are we surprised? I wasn't surprised that we're still in a shutdown, Like that's not surprising to me. There was a flurry of activity where I just imagine like papers flying like running. Sen it quickly passed it, and then they were just bolted to the airport to leave for the week for recess. So they bolted to the airport and then sort of like it seems like they just left a turd on the door doorstep of and lit it on fire. Yeah, they did, like at the at the House and the House.

00:15:20
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:15:21
Speaker 1: And then I mean, I think a lot of what's happening in DC right now is people are just doing really petty things at our expense as citizens, so that they have talking points in the midterm elections. Yeah. So they did this, left it with the House knowing they probably would never approve it, and then they were the House Republicans were like, we don't approve We're not going to improve this whatsoever.

00:15:45
Speaker 2: So we're in the same situation and it's and travel is getting worse for people, right.

00:15:50
Speaker 1: I guess it did score some political points for the campaign trail for Democrats in the midterms to be able to say, look, they didn't pass. They were we're given the opportunity to reopen the airports and they didn't, and they chose to say they chose not to. And they all did have to go on the record. I mean, they have a press conference and said like, we are absolutely not agreeing to all of this. But I don't know, what do you think about it? Because I have very specific opinions because it's like ice funding.

00:16:14
Speaker 2: And again, I just think that every day something new happens that tells me that these people don't really care about what happens to the people in this country, right, They're so focused on winning getting their way that there is no compromise.

00:16:32
Speaker 1: Like for me, it just feels so profoundly selfish. Yeah, I think it's like, hey, it's very selfish. It's like, every single time we come up against this, it's like we are again in a place where the system that was set up hundreds of years ago is not serving us in modern society. And we have congressmen and men and women who are been in Congress forever, or Susan Collins who is a Democrat and supposed to be a Democrat but then votes every time we try yeah, and has like a she literally has a magat with it. I was reading today that Republican a record number of Republicans are retiring before the midterm elections. ABC reported on this. Since nineteen thirty, there's almost one hundred years. There have never been this many Republicans retiring before a midterm election. Why what do you think that's about. I think they know they're about to get walloped, they're about to get dog walked in the midterms, and I think that everyone's trying to save face rather than spend all the money to lose and then be a big, fat loser. They're like, all right, I'm going to wait five years and run again in twenty what would it be twenty thirty. Let's just wait and see it's easier to do that. Go on the speaking circuit. I want to write a book.

00:18:02
Speaker 2: I wonder if people will remember what they didn't do. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, do you know you had the opportunity to put the country back together again at the very least, you know the airport's running appropriately again, and instead you decided not to because you're being petty. And now you realize you're probably not going to win, so you're going to quit. You're not going to run again. You're not going to quit, but you're not going to run again. And now that this sort of things have settled down, then you're going to go back and try and run again.

00:18:34
Speaker 1: I will say the one thing, yeah, that people do not forget in this country, and it may seem really weird to you and me, gas prices. If you had some sort of effect on the gas prices as a politician, they will eat you up. No, crumbs absolutely gobble you up, miss Piggy. What if it say about no? I mean literally, if it's like a quarter, They're like, get him. What did it say about though?

00:19:08
Speaker 6: That?

00:19:08
Speaker 2: Like that's gonna be the thing, Not kids being killed in school, not gun control.

00:19:15
Speaker 1: No, the gas Americans. If you fuck with their gas prices, they snap off the nails, they take off the earrings, macline on the base, they take the folding chair, laplancha, they go, they go luccharto on you if you fuck with the gas prices even a little bit. Did you see that interview with the woman at She was at the pump and she was like this like a local reporter was interviewing her and they were like, so what do you think about what Trump is doing in Iran? And she tore into this man. If you could say something the president's tump, he was gonna hear you right now, what would be? You're a worseless tile of this woman. I think I want to say it was in Philly or Pittsburgh.

00:20:04
Speaker 3: It was.

00:20:04
Speaker 1: It was definitely one of these cities in America where they will beat you to death with a sock filled with batteries, you know, like it's one of those towns. And so she was like, and I voted for him three times and I She's like, and that's my bad. Oh I did see her so on me. She's got the sunglasses on and she's next to her aunt. Yeah, yeah, it's like this woman. But it's true, that is what I think. We're in a bubble, right, Like we live in New York, for sure. Most of the people we know are on the coast. Yes, a lot. There are a lot of people in America who fifty cents at the pump is a huge deal. They've got to drive to work, they've got to drive to pick the kids up. Like people really really care about the gas prices. They do.

00:20:58
Speaker 2: They do in American's love cars, right, and they spend so much time in their cars. And you know, now the things that let's say you couldn't afford to go on, like a vacation where everybody gets on a plane and goes someplace, but you would like drive to your grandmother's house or take a road trip. And now that is it's cost prohibitive.

00:21:17
Speaker 1: You can't. They can't do it like they used to. And also, like there's something about the inconvenience of transport, whether it's the subway, the bus, the car, the bike. The second it's like remotely interrupted. It is the thing we're doing to get to the place. It's like an It is not joyous. Transportation is never any type planes, whatever. It's a means to an end. We're trying to get to a place to do a thing. It's usually to make money, because we're all stuck in a capitalist healthscape, right, Like, it's never it's very rarely for pleasure. I mean, you're going someplace because you have to go. So when that shit gets interrupted, are a little bit more expensive, you're like, are you fucking now? It's just it adds to it. It does my bike. Someone locked my bike to their bike accidentally. Oh no, town and soho. I know this is different than the plight of working class America spending more money at the pump. But I did someone bike. That's how you get around, and that's how I get around everywhere. Yeah, and so all weekend I went. So I went to this party on Thursday night and I tied up my bike. Have you been visiting your bike? Did you get your bike bike? Melissa? I've been visiting it. Yeah, and I've been putting flowers at a spare site. Like, Yeah, I've had to go back like three or four days in a row, because in New York City, your bike survives maybe twenty four hours chained ab outside. Then people start taking shit off it, so the wheels are gone and things just start disappearing. I mean, you should have just gotten a bolt cutter. It's a giant. It's it's a huge I would need like an actual electric saw to get through this lock. Okay. So and so I've been going every day. You still don't have it back. I've been biking. I finally got it back yesterday, but it was four days without my bike, and.

00:23:08
Speaker 2: I was just showed up and it was untethered, like the person had taken the lock off.

00:23:13
Speaker 1: My lock was still locked, but they went over my lock and left it there for days. I was like, this person has some nerve and they and they don't go anywhere, and they don't where are you? Yeah, don't you have anything to do? I finally got it back, and then I get a text message from the girl who sells me my glasses okay at the store. Yeah, she sent me a photo of me trying to unbuckle my bike. So instead of being helpful, she was just recording yours.

00:23:45
Speaker 7: This You.

00:23:48
Speaker 1: Just like me picking a fucking lock on the size, sitting on the sidewalk, and so were you crying? I was like, you just saw me on the street and kept going. I kept going, Yeah, anyway, that's my algorithm for this week. Wait, what's in your algorithm? Photo for me? What is in my algorithm? You didn't say, Well, well, like a disease. It's been infected by someone who's sending me Ai fruit videos Melissa, the only Ai fruit videos I want to see?

00:24:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, which Ai fruit videos do you need to see?

00:24:25
Speaker 1: Actually?

00:24:25
Speaker 4: None? Yeah.

00:24:26
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, I don't think there's any.

00:24:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know I'm not alone. Last week, for some reason, all of a sudden, I started saying.

00:24:35
Speaker 1: I know, we're not alone. We stand in solidarity with Melissa.

00:24:39
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, I started seeing like these weird AI vegetable soap operas. Now a lot more have come out, and I'm losing interest. Like I will say, so it did last very long season two. Yeah, yeah, but describe for.

00:24:54
Speaker 1: The people at home who have taste, You have no idea what this is? Fuck off? So the one that I saw that really pulled me in. I hit myself. It was a broccoli and the broccoli.

00:25:10
Speaker 2: The broccoli was an old woman who's sixty years old, because she keeps on saying, oh my god, I'm sixty years old, who had an affair with a carrot and she has a baby.

00:25:22
Speaker 1: And my question was, how can a carrot and a broccoli have a baby? And the baby is a broccoli like wild.

00:25:32
Speaker 2: Specie, And for some reason she's she's like really embarrassed that she's had this broccoli baby. This, yeah, this broccoli baby, and she throws it in the dumpster.

00:25:41
Speaker 1: In fantasize, Yes, in fantasize, but the.

00:25:44
Speaker 2: Broccoli baby is rescued by the old homeless potato woman.

00:25:52
Speaker 4: Imagine.

00:25:53
Speaker 1: I'm just imagining the backstage casting call homeless potato woman seeking voice for homeless potato whe I don't.

00:26:02
Speaker 2: Know, it's just and now they're getting like more like spicy, right, So like there's a banana who's having a threesome with some black beans. Oh and this is what happened either, So I can't remember if it doesn't matter, I can't remember if the banana wait, I don't remember if the banana is male or female. But it doesn't matter because then the spouse of the banana, who I think is a strawberry.

00:26:31
Speaker 1: Thank you for using the gender neutral term. I wouldn't want this to ever get well, whatever doesn't matter.

00:26:37
Speaker 2: I would have never want us to get canceled for the ai fruit. And somehow the strawberry and the banana get into it. She throws I think the banana gets thrown out, and now the strawberry is having an affair with the beans.

00:26:51
Speaker 1: This is the days of our lives. Yes, and let me tell you the reason why it's getting spicier is because you're interacting with it. And now this ai bot is creating more and more insane shit. It's absolutely wild. A couple of beans and a banana. It's three beans, that is, that's polyamory.

00:27:09
Speaker 2: I mean that's but also like the beans are like very muscular.

00:27:14
Speaker 1: For some reason, I feel like this is like this is vegan porn, Like I feel like the vegans are watching this and getting off so fucking weird. But I can't stop watching it.

00:27:23
Speaker 2: Although I did say I put it to the side and it's enough because the beans, the three beans and the banana was too much for me.

00:27:31
Speaker 1: It was too much for me.

00:27:32
Speaker 2: So that's what's been in my algorithm. I need something else. I want something else.

00:27:38
Speaker 1: We'll get you. I'll start sending you something. Lastly, I do have an update on the needles. Okay, I'm riveted. I went back to the store because I saw my niece. She took me to the Slime Museum of New York. Actually, no, put some respect on their name. Slime Institute. Okay, sorry, Yeah, I know there's a lot of reasons sarch happening at this slime people. Yes, And so before we went, I was like, you know what, let me check the store for the need the needle. Let me go back to the local toy store. I get there and there's a new sign on the door. Oh, Michael, what does it say? It says, if you're reading this, No, it's what does it say, there's a nuke aimed for your face? Shut up? All right? No new sign it says we still don't have the needles. No one can find the FedEx box. We've called them multiple times, like no, long, now it's not Now it's not a sign on the door. Now it's a missive Like what is going on.

00:28:46
Speaker 4: The whole thing?

00:28:47
Speaker 1: There's a whole thing because people are still harassing this woman for these needles. And I asked my sister and she said that my niece has her driving all over Long Island looking for them, and they're nowhere to be found.

00:28:58
Speaker 2: You know, when I was a kid, if we played with rocks, well yeah, literally, no one give a shit about us. But like when I was a kid, if I wanted something, granted, nothing ever went this crazy. I mean Cabbage Patch kids, but I don't know. My parents would just say no, and I'd be like, okay. It's like, you know, I've had this conversation with people. I grew up in a house with guns, and the guns just listen, my dad used to hunt.

00:29:24
Speaker 1: Okay, sorry he went from being told no to guns, well, yes, because I'll tell you why.

00:29:29
Speaker 2: And because my dad used to go hunting and his rifles were in his closet. They were not locked up, the bullets were right there. And my dad said, was this in New York or okay? Here here and in Haiti but here and he said don't touch it.

00:29:47
Speaker 1: And I didn't touch it. Like you know what I'm saying.

00:29:50
Speaker 2: My parents would say no to stuff and I'd be like okay, and now, when I got older, I would argue with them. But when I was a kid, no no, I said, no, okay, and I would cry. But like whatever, my mother never would have taken me in the car trapesing around the streets of Long Island to look for this fucking slink.

00:30:10
Speaker 1: It's the new generation. Slinky, slinky slinky. Melissa sent me a photo of her confirmation this weekend is crazy.

00:30:21
Speaker 2: I had braces and straight hair, and it was one of those pictures where you know the double picture where there's like you're looking straight and then the other you was looking that way, and.

00:30:34
Speaker 1: It was like modern photography. I think it was. I think it was for my confirmation, the ghost of you looking over the shoulder. It is so funny. It was so funny for your confirmation. Yeah, all right, let's take a break. This is under Oath. We're going to get into a deep dive on an awesome topic in the news right now. I'm really excited we have Afro joining us. It's going to be so such a great interview. Afroman is the Grammy nominated musician for his song Because I Got High. It's about life in a hot air balloon. It was released in two thousand and two, and he's back now with his titular song Lemon pound Cake, which is not about running a small bakery. It is not, it's not. He joins us today to discuss how a local sheriff's department rated his house under false pretenses and then tried to play the victim and sue him for defamation. And it's a case they recently lost, very famously all over the headlines last week. So we are thrilled to welcome Afroman too brief recess. Yay, Afroman. I have to tell you my birthday is four twenty and the number of people that forget to wish me happy birthday because they're so high. I'm looking at you, Grandma.

00:31:58
Speaker 6: I think I just my drop at fortnite too, just after this conversation.

00:32:02
Speaker 1: That's a good idea. Please do.

00:32:06
Speaker 4: Well.

00:32:06
Speaker 1: Congratulations on your winn in court. We wanted to talk to you a little bit today about your win. I just can do a quick update for everyone. Afroman. His home was broken into by police who were conducting a raid based off false information. Isn't that right?

00:32:22
Speaker 4: Yes, sir.

00:32:22
Speaker 1: Thereafter, because they destroyed your property and ate your cake, you wrote an album inspired by that experience, right, you really turned lemon into lemonade actially, right, yes, And so could you tell us a little bit more about that, tell us about your experience and your court case and sort of what happened.

00:32:42
Speaker 4: The cops right in my house.

00:32:44
Speaker 6: You know, they have authority and power and I don't have any They took advantage of that authority in power and they e vandalize the place. And then they were kind of cheerful and unapologetic about the destruction they left, right. It kind of brought a little delight to their souls that they that they destroyed my house. Even though they didn't find nothing, they kind of got to kick and destroy and everything. So anyway, I know you need police in society. I mean, society needs a scarecrow. The bad man needs to wake up and know that there is consequences for his bad actions. So even if a police officer didn't do anything, we need like a society scarecrow.

00:33:34
Speaker 4: Sure, police officers at the.

00:33:36
Speaker 6: Same time, you know, when people do wrong, they need to be checked. Yeah, I thought about everything. They didn't want to help me with the damages, so I make money wrapping, so I didn't want to spend my because I got high money paying for police damage. So I thought I would write an album about the police officers and let my story about them hey for their damage that they brought to my house. That was my solution. I didn't want to go down to the police department and throw trash cans up against the door and get arrested in the lawn and get taken in the jail and get epstein. So I thought the most positive, constructive thing I could do was to make money off the situation. I thought about my life, and I thought about how I sung my way through all my problems. I was going to clean my room, but then I got hired. You know, like, that song is not funny. I made it funny after I put it on a piece of paper. Yeah, and I let everybody laugh at my heartache and my disappointments. And it turned funny with strength and time. But it wasn't fun at first. But I remember how that song helped me get through those bad times. So in other words, in my life, I have rapped and sung my way through my problems. So this is like another little thing, you know. Okay, all right, I'm gonna just make a little song about these cops. And they got songs out there like F the Police and I'm Gonna kill it.

00:35:07
Speaker 4: Ic got cockyled. I didn't. I have never said F the police. Man.

00:35:12
Speaker 6: Police officers take pictures with me all day long. They come over me with slices of lemon pound cake, they smiling, you know, you know, hey, hey, hey, So I never said fuck the police, and none of that. I called them out by name. I found out who they were, and I didn't even say fuck them. I just said, you know, you really like my mom's lemon pound cake. Look how you're looking at it, you know. And I sold the records. They got a lot of they got a lot of attention, not that much money. It's hard to make It's hard to make money off of records in you know, this side of two thousand. You know, I was the first rapper to go viral, but that was the beginning of artists getting ripped off. Like yeah, the reason why I didn't go platinum is people didn't have to pay for my record.

00:35:58
Speaker 4: The whole world had it, and the body nobody want to. They was like file share.

00:36:02
Speaker 6: And they was just laughing at me in the street, like I got your whole album free, dude, like you anyway, blah blah.

00:36:09
Speaker 4: So it didn't make that much.

00:36:11
Speaker 6: Money record wise, you know, but I.

00:36:16
Speaker 4: Think it paid for the damage.

00:36:18
Speaker 6: The cops gave me about fourteen to thirty thousand dollars worth of damage to my house, And last time I looked at my royalty statements two three years ago, I think I had them sold about like twenty five thirty thousand dollars worth of lemon poundcake.

00:36:37
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know this, but you don't. If the police damage your house while they are trying to execute a search warren or are searching for evidence or something, a lot of them, most people don't get that money back. So in this case, you sued or they sued you because you made this album about them, and then you just won this case in court. Yes, so you just won. I think it was last week. What has life been like seven days?

00:37:07
Speaker 6: Right?

00:37:07
Speaker 1: How do you feel like?

00:37:08
Speaker 2: What's the feeling like once once that sort of judgment came in and you realize that you had won.

00:37:14
Speaker 1: How did you feel?

00:37:15
Speaker 4: So many different ways?

00:37:17
Speaker 6: You know, like I felt like everything was a was one of those weird lessons in disguises, like the Lord works in mysterious ways, like the whail threw up and Jonah was just in NINEV. You know what I'm saying, It's like some stuff like that, Dude.

00:37:34
Speaker 1: Like I can't do It's some old Testament shit.

00:37:37
Speaker 6: I'm not I'm not an angel. I'm not super religious.

00:37:42
Speaker 1: The Book of Afroman, Yes, I.

00:37:44
Speaker 4: Guess you know.

00:37:45
Speaker 6: God, you know from what I read and hear, God infinite Jesus to see if he could give the average human being faith. You hear what I'm saying, right, Yeah, So he had to test drive Jesus before he sent him into the public. So he made Jesus, he got baptized, and then he said Jesus was led by the spirit into the wilderness. I don't know if you guys are familiar with that little sentence. I'm not a part of the Lord's prayer or the daily prayer we supposed to pray. Is you guys have probably heard that. Everybody stand up.

00:38:19
Speaker 4: They go, our father, Jesus told us to.

00:38:22
Speaker 6: Pray like this, our father, who aren't heaven. Okay, it says all that stuff. Now there's this one key part. He goes lead us not into temptation, but deliver us for me.

00:38:35
Speaker 4: Okay, now that line right there.

00:38:37
Speaker 6: I believe that line right there stops you from getting into mass shootings.

00:38:40
Speaker 4: It stops, it stops, you know, it gets.

00:38:44
Speaker 6: You out of that wrong place, wrong time, and you don't get in the earthquake, you don't get on that bad airplane, right.

00:38:49
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

00:38:51
Speaker 6: So I really believe that God must have led the cops to my house. It was just too much stuff was falling in my hand. Like if you look at my lick, I'm Lisa Video.

00:39:01
Speaker 4: I can't pay.

00:39:04
Speaker 6: A woman that's my enemy to say those things, like to really set.

00:39:08
Speaker 4: Me up that good? Like are you serious?

00:39:10
Speaker 1: Yeah?

00:39:11
Speaker 6: Yes, Like my only witness was the ex CoP's wife.

00:39:15
Speaker 4: Like this is like this is like, well.

00:39:18
Speaker 6: This is this is the masturbation material right here.

00:39:22
Speaker 4: I don't believe.

00:39:23
Speaker 1: For people who don't know the case, this dude on National.

00:39:27
Speaker 6: TV talking about it, he don't know if I flipped his life or not.

00:39:30
Speaker 1: So basically, I just need to set it up so people understand what you're talking about. Afterman, for people who aren't familiar with your case in the trial that they held in the defamation suit, a defense to defamation is the truth, right, If you're telling the truth, then you cannot sue that person for damages because they're not making things up about you. Therefore it's not defamation. So what Aferman had to do as part of his defense was he had to call these people who he wrote songs about, and the assertions he made in the songs he then had to defend by proving the truth of what he was saying. So, for example, in the song what is it lickham Lo Lisa, he had to as part of his defense, call certain witnesses to attest to the truth of the lyrics of those songs. So that's what you're talking about, right, yes, sir, Okay, why do you think people were so drawn to the Because I think people were really drawn to this case and it really took over headlines, and I honestly think it's because of one of these situations, the situation we're in in this country where there's so many times where the little person, not to call you a little person, but the person up the David and the Goliath, the average person the David and Goliath does. The David does not win because they're up against a giant institution and they get the and they don't win for that reason. But you won like they issued you. They were trying to take the you know, sue you for damages because you wrote the album. They were the aggressor in the situation. They worked down your door. They did thirty thousand dollars worth of damages to your home for a search warrant that was based off a tip that was erroneous. I don't think there was any truth. There was no truth to it, right, And then they were going to leave you with a bill, and then they took you to court because you made this album about them and claimed defination. Afreman, Let me ask you this, how do you feel?

00:41:24
Speaker 6: Right?

00:41:24
Speaker 2: You know, since this happened, a lot of the sheriffs have retired or they've left or they moved away. Do you feel like, how do you feel that a part of the reason why they've done that is because I mean you basically dragged them.

00:41:39
Speaker 1: You dragged them, right, you drag them.

00:41:41
Speaker 2: You showed exactly what they did, how they did, and they are I mean obviously humiliated, right as they should be.

00:41:49
Speaker 1: What was like, what was the goal?

00:41:52
Speaker 6: Like? The goal was to raise money and paid for the damages. Personally, I thought they was tough, bad ass conson they didn't give it. I have never care. I have never seen a cop care about what I say once he left. Yeah, these are some real super sensitive poor sports. These other police officers are making fun of these guys, dude, like, and I'm not. Yeah, so the key, makey was My key was to pay for the damages. Yes, so I was trying to make the songs juicy enough for people to give.

00:42:27
Speaker 2: A damn to VI, right, I mean so, I mean, I feel like, even though I'm sure it was, you know, such a pain to have to go through this in the first place, but it feels like it's worked out in your favor, Like it's gotten so much more attention because of this case.

00:42:43
Speaker 4: I hate to keep getting religious. I hate it. I really do. I really want to stay nuture. Just gotta be God right.

00:42:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I hear you, or some sort of karmic retribution, Dude.

00:42:55
Speaker 4: I drank Code forty five. I chase every woman. I see. I'm not no, but this cut to be cut.

00:43:02
Speaker 6: I've been trying to boost my followers for for for years.

00:43:08
Speaker 4: I've had two hundred thousand.

00:43:10
Speaker 6: I've had two hundred thousand people on Instagram for like the last ten fifteen years.

00:43:16
Speaker 4: I go crazy when it. When I finally get that slow ass thousand, I'm like, oh my.

00:43:20
Speaker 6: God, it just put up a number due to watch eight hundred thousand people get on my situation in four or five days.

00:43:29
Speaker 1: That's incredible. It is incredible.

00:43:31
Speaker 6: I can't do that. I didn't do that by myself. Like God sent me these people, he gave me a story. That's that's interesting, that that that people are financially involved in, Like like this is I've tried everything. I've tried everything. I wear different suits every night. I started doing the Running Man forward and backwards.

00:43:52
Speaker 4: I played it.

00:43:54
Speaker 6: I have tried everything, and that's why I try everything. I thought I was at my low. I don't know if y'all ever seen trading places there you have it's like when it's like when the dogs started being on the guy and it started raining, Like it's like that was my.

00:44:10
Speaker 4: Part of the movie, Like they took down my door. I'm powerless. My raps ain't taking off no more.

00:44:18
Speaker 6: I thought about buying a silence, sir and getting an address. I was feeling less than a man like. I was feeling less than a man like. I was like, why can't these guys you know, you think about slavery, you think about disrespect, and you want to you want to if that gonna stop, you know, maybe I need to give up the ghosts. And and you know, you know what what do I do? You know, because they get to walk around with their guns but I don't.

00:44:44
Speaker 4: And then I.

00:44:45
Speaker 6: Realized how their ar fifteens couldn't.

00:44:48
Speaker 4: Hurt me, but my jokes just kill them.

00:44:51
Speaker 1: Yes, that's my silly little cake.

00:44:54
Speaker 4: Song retired and sensitive acts.

00:44:58
Speaker 1: Yes, you know what I'm saying.

00:45:01
Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know.

00:45:02
Speaker 6: What, here go God again? How many other people have they done this too?

00:45:07
Speaker 1: Countless right? Count platform who.

00:45:11
Speaker 6: I won everything in that court? They didn't make me pay for those people's hot dogs?

00:45:16
Speaker 4: Soda? Is it nothing?

00:45:17
Speaker 1: Did the police have to pay for your legal fees? Now that you won in court? Are they paying your lawyers?

00:45:25
Speaker 4: We get it, we get it.

00:45:28
Speaker 1: So again, just to go on with what you know, Melissa, stop trying to host this interview talking about neither of us that's.

00:45:38
Speaker 2: Talking to I was just gonna say, like like what you've been saying, like like we say, look at God, right, like look at this thing that just fell into your lap. You couldn't have possibly if somebody had made a movie about this, we wouldn't believe it.

00:45:51
Speaker 6: Coples, you don't understand and be like, yeah, he called me off the town cake and I'm mad about it.

00:45:56
Speaker 4: I get hundreds of takes every day. I can't pay nobody to be.

00:45:59
Speaker 6: That Like this is like it's like super Troopers or something. It's like police Academy is something goofy, Like I can't pay for that, dude, Like what.

00:46:09
Speaker 1: A script didn't you call? You called the police chief's ex wife to the stand as a witness.

00:46:15
Speaker 6: Uh, he wasn't the police. He was just like a regular. Uh. Yeah, his name is Sean Grooms. I got a song called Sean Grooming Grooms and he.

00:46:24
Speaker 4: Blamed her force on me to find out.

00:46:28
Speaker 1: What what did you ask his ex wife on the stand? What did your lawyers ask.

00:46:32
Speaker 6: If she had an restraining order against him? And all kind of good stuff, you know, and just let him know. The bottom line is he's a liar, and a liar shouldn't have police authority or power.

00:46:45
Speaker 4: He's a liar. Back character.

00:46:46
Speaker 6: One other cop was married to an ex convict thief. Now they say birds of a feather.

00:46:51
Speaker 4: You can finish the rest of that. You know what I'm saying.

00:46:55
Speaker 6: Then another cop, you know, all the people in the town, they say he's a statute to rapist, but he's a sheer and can't nobody do nothing about it? And then his brother, you can go look it up right now, is a convicted pedophile that got fired from the people's police department.

00:47:12
Speaker 4: He's the chief of police over there.

00:47:14
Speaker 1: Okay, we have we have live fact checking and that has checked out to be true.

00:47:18
Speaker 6: So yeah, brother, that's not defamation. And see that's why they were trying to They were trying to sue me and shut me up and steer me and intimidate me.

00:47:27
Speaker 4: But I told the truth and what did the truth crew?

00:47:30
Speaker 1: It set me free?

00:47:31
Speaker 6: Yep, the deal and all of these rivers are just leading back to the ocean of God, and it's like it's got to be a blessing from God.

00:47:39
Speaker 1: What's next for you? What are you working on? Now? Where are you? Where are you headed next? You're in Texas? What's on the horizon for Afro man?

00:47:47
Speaker 4: I'm gonna run it down to you here, no, please, here you go? All right?

00:47:51
Speaker 6: First of all, the album's coming out. You know, I am a rapper. First things first, McDonald always got to serve you.

00:47:56
Speaker 4: The Big Mac with the tope. You know we're gonna come with the Macburry and the mac rid.

00:48:00
Speaker 6: We don't do everything, but first we're gonna take care of business.

00:48:03
Speaker 4: We're gonna keep the Big Mac number one, number one.

00:48:05
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make an out not to April nineteenth anywhere you get music.

00:48:09
Speaker 6: After that, the lemon pound cake line is coming. You know what I'm saying.

00:48:13
Speaker 4: I would like to get a big chain.

00:48:15
Speaker 6: I would like to get a big chain that professionally knows how to do it. But if they don't step up, I'm gonna move on with a with a little man, and I'm gonna make him.

00:48:23
Speaker 4: A big man.

00:48:24
Speaker 6: We're gonna big together. The limit pound cakes come together. In the Afroman's signature Freedom of Speech American dream suit is.

00:48:32
Speaker 1: Cuddled Beautiful all wear one on the show.

00:48:35
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, it's coming after this suit, you know, just more of it everything. The Afroman Superhero cartoon. If you see the battle Hymn of the Police Whistleblower, I got my super hero character. He's singing the last part of my song as I lose my voice and he's dropping down. But it's a superhero. This super hero is uh, he's gonna he's gonna save society against bad cops. So when cops, I'm gonna have cartoon cops like, hey, we're gonna steal your money and plant drugs on you.

00:49:11
Speaker 4: You're going to prison.

00:49:12
Speaker 6: I'm gonna have like these these these these these bad.

00:49:15
Speaker 4: Cops and then they're gonna be like is it a bird?

00:49:17
Speaker 2: Is it a plan?

00:49:17
Speaker 6: And this afro Man, and then the bad cops gonna the bad cops are gonna be like afro Man.

00:49:22
Speaker 4: They're gonna have guns and stuff. They're gonna start shaking.

00:49:24
Speaker 6: Afro Man, Please don't wrap about us like kids.

00:49:27
Speaker 4: Please, don't give us your emotional decess. Don't give us humiliation.

00:49:32
Speaker 1: Don't wrap. They know they know what will happen.

00:49:35
Speaker 6: I'm gonna start rapping and they're gonna run away, and then all the community they're gonna be like, thanks afro Man for saving us from the bad cop.

00:49:43
Speaker 4: It's coming, brother, Well, thank you so much for turnings.

00:49:46
Speaker 1: Thank you.

00:49:47
Speaker 4: I can't wait for this disguise the limit.

00:49:51
Speaker 1: We're so happy for you.

00:49:52
Speaker 2: Like this just feels like you know, the little man got ahead, do you know what I'm saying?

00:49:59
Speaker 1: Like it's I think.

00:50:00
Speaker 6: I thank God he used the foolish to confirm the wise. He worked in mysterious ways.

00:50:05
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he let me.

00:50:06
Speaker 6: He let this go down so he could use me to bring worldwide attention to corruption in government period.

00:50:16
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they can all see it.

00:50:19
Speaker 6: I did it with rap music, no money, just a little just a little goofy drunk wrapper.

00:50:26
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you so much.

00:50:27
Speaker 6: Closed the government to the world, and now all the scholars and the little man can use his freedom of speech to acknowledge there.

00:50:37
Speaker 4: Is a problem.

00:50:38
Speaker 6: Use his freedom of speech to address the problem. Use his freedom of speech to solve the problem.

00:50:45
Speaker 1: Amen. Hey, hey, oh so great. It's really nice to talk to you. Thank you so much. Thank you afro Man for joining us on brief research. Take care please. Thank God God gave us like a low Lisa woman going down on another woman. Thank you God for like Lisa. He was just like, and I'm not religious, here's another story about God. It's like so weirdness. That was actually that was it was.

00:51:25
Speaker 4: It was fun.

00:51:26
Speaker 1: It was fun and he's, oh my God, he's kind of cute, like God. Like, I was just like, he's adorable, right, It was like I don't like God at all, but let me quote him multiple times. You sent me here and this whole situation was his doing. Yeah, it's got to be good. It's got to be good, big mark.

00:51:47
Speaker 4: In the middle.

00:51:48
Speaker 1: We got to keep it number one, the big back will always be number one on the menu. I'm gonna start saying that I love that. I love that. Love that was great. No, I love it because it You're right, it is like it like it feels like the little man finally a fucking win.

00:52:05
Speaker 2: And you know, and what he was saying, you know, not every not every rapper becomes jay Z right, you know what I'm saying, So like this idea that this rapper who's known form making like jokes, and he said that he'd been struggling.

00:52:18
Speaker 1: She was like a one hit wonder, correct, and this you know.

00:52:21
Speaker 2: It must be a terrible thing, right when the police come barging into your home. It's scary in all the things. And he took this terrible situation and look at what he's done. He's revitalized his career totally.

00:52:35
Speaker 1: And I think, like, like he said, they do this to so many people and we don't hear it. We never hear about it and they never get their bills paid. Nothing ever happens and there's no accountability. So I think this is like one of those rare times in fucking life and society where it feels like the bad guy's got what was coming, especially because.

00:52:55
Speaker 2: We know, like many times, far too many times the police have barged into someone's home and the person there gets killed. Right, So thank god this didn't happen to him, and he was able to take a scary, terrible situation and like make it really funny. And now he's got new followers and he's probably going to go on tour and do all this really cool stuff.

00:53:17
Speaker 1: I really want a big mac, I think I do.

00:53:19
Speaker 2: I want like some lemon pound cake. I love lemon pound I love lemon pound cake. I love a lemon dessert.

00:53:26
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll be right back. Let's get into the dams. I'm still so sick from whatever Brad fed me. No, I'm sorry. Uh, this is tales from the Dams. Let's talk about all the crazy things I'll send us on the internet. You send me some really good stuff, and I have been better at keeping track of who sends me what and following up. And I'm asking people you know, can we read this? And then CJ gets involved, so we're being really official. I'm happy to hear that. Friends, What do I always say?

00:53:53
Speaker 2: While Michael is a lawyer, he is not your lawyer, so get your own.

00:53:59
Speaker 1: It's this one. I actually love this. This is just a good let's read some reviews. This is from last week's episode about the Epstein Files. Red Rose tells us the ongoing studio lighting changes are interesting to observe. It's Michael's fault. He's so vain. Oh, it's one hundred percent. I don't give a shit.

00:54:18
Speaker 6: No.

00:54:18
Speaker 1: Nick explained it to me and he really did a full breakdown for me at the lighting of how it reflects of certain boards and like how they use certain lighting and some studios and others. So I'm on the journey as well, and I'm enjoying it. I know you are.

00:54:32
Speaker 2: This is from Mandy. She was talking about the America's Next Top Model with Johanna laundry chair girl here, an active hippopotamus and pity potomatous lover. I need this podcast in my life. Thank you for the last the serious business, the tea, and the strong reality based perception of the world. It's warts and highlights. She likes pipulls. Piples are so cute. I love them.

00:54:58
Speaker 1: My sister had pippoles for many years when I was in college, and they were so snuggily, so nice, spooning on the sofa. They were really, really cute.

00:55:08
Speaker 2: When I was a kid, there was a pitbull in my neighborhood whose name was Cupcake, and Cupcake would would like lay down and like display and like beg for belly rubs.

00:55:18
Speaker 1: They're really sweet dogs. I've gotten more and more. It's not that I'm hoping something happens to Jack, but he is getting older. Actually I do need to fetch about this for a second, Okay, because I love Jack my dog. Yeah, my thirteen year old. She know he's not very nice, but he's he's getting old and he's demented. And is he demented? I think so? Does he sund down? Yes, okay, but I love him? No, Yes, of course. It is following me around, panting everywhere I go. And I'm reading about how dogs when they're older follow you around because they can't see or hear anymore, so they like smell you. They just kind of are turned. They're getting more like nervous about being alone. Yeah, and it's and it's sad. Yeah, it's also annoying. It's on mine He's tippy tap dancing with his long claws on my last fucking nerves some days, and I'm like, I don't know how y'all caregivers do it. I don't know how nurses do it. I don't know how people in these jobs do this, because I'm like, this is just my dog, and I get to leave the house and like go live my life and come back. But oh my god, leaving today, does he cry?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 1: Oh, he's just following me around, like looking for a treat or whatever, just like trying to make sure I'm home or not or whatever. And then and it's it's most of the time it's really sweet, but today I was like, I'm actually gonna lose my shit. You need to get away from me, leave me alone for one second. I can't go in the other room without him following me, and it breaks my heart. The dog. It's also very frustrating. It's really frustrating. But I know one day I'm gonna like wish you were following me around and that I'm annoyed by him not being there. But on the other side of that coin, I've also been really excited about potentially adopting another dog once Jack crosses the Rainbow Bridge, which will probably be years from now. He's still thirteen, is like actually kind of young for that breed, and he's showing no sign of slowing down. He still goes on like four walks a day for like a twenty thirty forty minutes sometimes. But I'm like falling in love with all these other dogs as I'm like looking around on the end, I'm like, ooh, I'm actually really excited.

00:57:29
Speaker 2: Andrey really wants a dog and I won't get one, but but I look at them and they're so cute, especially the ones who like need homes.

00:57:37
Speaker 1: The Dodo. The Dodo is like the worst thing. They just I can't it just really cute, and I know, but I love it.

00:57:43
Speaker 2: Just this homeless dog who all of a sudden finds their home and now they're beautiful and I love I.

00:57:49
Speaker 1: Saw one and it was like, we're going to test her out for the weekend, and like before the video was even over, there like there's no way they're taking the dog shopping. I was like, there's no way you're sending that dogs a sweater? Yeah? In credit card debt? Okay? Oh. From the Boomer Banks episode, Nicole Phillips says, Melissa Michael so perfectly pared as host. That makes every guest feel like such a natural fit for them. And I'm always obsessed with Melissa's jewelry. Nicole, what do you think of this? I love that? What do you think of this? I love this? Where'd you get that? States?

00:58:27
Speaker 4: Oh my god?

00:58:28
Speaker 1: All right, let's get into some questions. We got a clip from CJ.

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Speaker 7: I have a quick question regarding actual dual citizenship from the US to Canada. My son's great grandfather was born in Canada, and I know that they had voted on Bill C three to allow those descendants to apply, but the extension temporary measure expired on March nineteenth. So at this point, does my son have any way to apply for Canadian citizenship due to his great grandfather being born there, thus being a naturalized Canadian citizen?

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much? Okay, so this is actually I'm really glad this came up because I'm actually doing this. Brad's great great grandmother was Canadian, so I was like, Boots, like, let's do it just for fun, like, let's have Canadian passports if we want them, why not. So I'm actually in the middle of doing this right now. So I'm glad glad you called in because I actually know a lot about this. I'm in the middle of it right now. And I think whoever gave you that March nineteenth extension deadline might have been wrong, or maybe we're talking about different things here, But from my understanding, the C three Bill is in full effect right now. We're almost in this ol air in April twenty twenty six, and there is no extension deadline that sort of felt that you are you have since passed, so I think you should still be able to file for citizenship by descendant in Canada. You're just going to have to prove that that just that chain of descendant, right, So you're gonna have to get the birth certificate of whatever. I guess it is his great grandfather who is Canadian, So you'll need that birth certificate to prove right that they're indeed related. Okay, Yeah, so that's sort of how that works. And then you follow it there. And I called. I had to call, and.

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Speaker 2: I talked to it was a super nice person. Of super nice Canadian.

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Speaker 1: So I'm so stupid. I'm so stupid. I called and this person had the craziest fucking accent accent and I was like, wow, Michael, like you're so ignorant. You didn't know that Canadians have these extreme accents. She was like hello, and I was like, huh, that is so obscure. Part of Canada? Is this person from? And she was like, oh yeah, I just went through this to me, so from from Ireland?

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Speaker 6: All right.

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Speaker 1: I was just like, probably an immigrant from something. There's also immigrants in Ireland. They're not all from canadamgrant. Immigrants in Canada. Not everyone in Canada's Canadian. For example, you, Michael, you're applying for Canadian citizenship, your stupid bit. You're applying with Brad or is Brad applying and I'm applying for Brad. No, no, no, I understand, I understand. Lord only knows what will happen if you. So then if Brad gets it, I will then apply on through him for me to get status. But I'm doing the whole thing no, because he wouldn't be able to. All right, Well, thank you so much for sending in your dams. Thanks you for sending in your messages. We've got some more. We'll get to them next week. This was really fun. Thanks for joining us. We'll see you next week, and before then, I'll see you in court, not me. This has been an Exactly Right production recorded at iHeart Studios, hosted by me, Michael Foot and me Melissa Albrant. Our producer is CJ. Ferroni. This episode was edited by Nicholas Galucci.

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