Candiace Cries and Mia Thrives. RHOP Reunion Pt. 1

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Speaker 3: Watch.

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Speaker 4: Come.

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Speaker 5: So, what's going on man next to the housewives of the Potomac people?

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Speaker 4: What are you doing down there?

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Speaker 2: We need to first talk about the scenic assignment.

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Speaker 4: Let's talk about it. Karen Hugo was next to up to Andy.

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Speaker 1: Karen is normally nex to Andy.

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Speaker 2: She's had a very great success rate with that. Giselle, however, Gizelle lost her first chair Karen, and next to Karen was Giselle.

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Speaker 4: So on the other side it was Mia.

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Speaker 1: It was Mia.

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Speaker 4: That's what needed to be We want to talk to Mia. That was right. They did good, That was right.

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Speaker 5: Mia had the most compelling story in my opinion.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but she got she got bumped. Honey, Mia did no Giselle getting bumped?

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Speaker 1: How did you listen?

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Speaker 2: The thing is this, I know Mayri to medicine. The scening assignments aren't a big deal for you guys. But in the world this is a thing, though, Honey, in the world of housewives, it is a may Jer deal, a major deal.

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Speaker 1: So Giselle gave.

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Speaker 2: A great performance this reunion, but a lot of that had to deal with the fact that she had to perform because she lost her seat and.

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Speaker 1: She gagged with she came out.

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Speaker 3: She gagged.

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Speaker 1: She was like, who's sitting there?

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Speaker 3: And Andy goes Karen and she goes, Okay, that's good. It was a gag.

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Speaker 1: But but but I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I thought, I feel like Karen and Jaselle and Candace carry the show.

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Speaker 4: I said that before, So she was Karen on this side.

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Speaker 5: To me, it should have been Jaselle because Mia had a great season. However, we're gonna talk to Candace on this side, and I think Candice should be on the side of Karen Huger, and then we should put Mia on the side of Jaselle.

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Speaker 4: Giselle messy.

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Speaker 5: Karen Huger appears to be what she calls the fence. She's on the fence. She's not on anybody's side.

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Speaker 4: She says what she thinks is right or wrong.

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Speaker 5: The problem with defense is the fence can only see from they side of the fence, so sometime the fence be wrong.

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Speaker 2: Oh no one, but but that to me was the biggest thing that was a gag to the audience. But I also think it was good because this was one of Giselle's better reunion and I think this no one.

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Speaker 3: Should ever feel comfortable.

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Speaker 2: And as much as I love Gazelle and I know you do too, I feel like Gizelle was very comfortable.

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Speaker 5: So you felt like Faj should have been in the first seat on that un married Medicine for us.

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Speaker 4: I'm just asking because I want to know.

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Speaker 2: Let's have a real conversation. Let's have a real conversation. You ready, Yes, If I was producing marit To Medicine and I had to assign seats next to Andy would have been you and Sweet Tea.

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Speaker 4: But she was an ethic feel you see, and it would have went wrong. You see what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Well, No, this is the thing.

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Speaker 2: The first seat does something to a person's personality, their energy. They feel like they have to perform, and that's the reason why Karen gave a great performance, and Mia, who to me is the face of the show, also gave a great performance.

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Speaker 1: And that's the reason.

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Speaker 2: Why I wanted to talk to you just about this reunion because so many things were happening, and I want to.

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Speaker 3: Start with Robin.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Juan Dixon has to be hands down the most disrespectful man I've ever seen.

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Speaker 3: On reality television.

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Speaker 4: I would agree with that.

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Speaker 1: I think it.

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Speaker 2: Is so fucked up that your wife has to stand alone to answer questions about the transgressions that he made in his life that impacted her and her her position on this show.

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Speaker 3: It was sad to see that Robin had.

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Speaker 2: To sit there and answer questions about Wan as the breadwinner, as the person who is on the show for eight seasons.

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Speaker 1: And she didn't do nothing wrong.

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Speaker 2: Robin didn't go out there and she with her ex and don't know who the father is.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Mia, and we love mam and me a baby.

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Speaker 2: But I've said this once and I'll say it again, and I actually like Robin a lot. Robin, if you're listening, that man don't love you. He doesn't love you because I could. The only way it would make sense to me is this, if you did something to him. We've got Gordon showing up for Mia. We'll get to that in a second. Gordon showed up.

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Speaker 1: For Mia, and Mia has laya.

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Speaker 2: Lowis bread and wide with her ex baby okay, and Gordon even showed up to support the mother of his kids.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna try to help I'm gonna try to help one.

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Speaker 5: Maybe one is the type of dude that's probably gonna get real upset. Maybe he's like he's real sensitive. Maybe he just don't want to hear it. Maybe he just like, fuck, y'all, I don't really want to be here. And I'm not gonna support my wife because y'all, I'm not gonna ridiculee me because it ain't none of y'all. Brother tucking business is what I do with my wife. I'm just trying to help her.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 5: I was thinking, like, okay, Robin, okay, I love my man. Right, we probably can be stupid for a man. You've been stupidfore a man before Colos.

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Speaker 3: Right, we've all been stupifo a man.

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Speaker 5: But he got a show some kind of for me to stay stupid, he got to at least act like he cares. This man act like he don't like her, This man act like he.

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Speaker 4: Don't respect her.

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Speaker 5: This man act like not even act like he doesn't respect.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't respect her at all, And he.

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Speaker 5: Gives her lame excuses that she just goes for it like she's stupid. And I love Robin too. I just don't think she's dumb. I think she's just trying to save face. It ain't none of I brother taking business.

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Speaker 4: How you live your life.

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Speaker 5: But if y'all gonna put it on TV like this, then the man need to answer to these questions.

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Speaker 4: But the problem is he ain't got no answer. So why come no?

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Speaker 2: He had answers he had this is the thing he had answers on the show. But they all know the answers was a bunch of bullshit and it is what it is.

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Speaker 3: I felt so bad for Robin.

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Speaker 2: At that moment, and I'm gonna say this, at the end of the day, let's let's let's have a real conversation.

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Speaker 3: Robin is a so old income in that household.

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Speaker 5: There's slaying people like that, there's so incomes on married to medicine that we're not saying that we the breadwinners, like Toya saying.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying no.

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Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, Eugenie shows up for his wife. That's my thing.

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Speaker 4: He makes money too, That's what I'm right, what's.

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Speaker 2: My thing If my significant other is on a show having to answer questions about something I did.

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Speaker 1: I lost my job.

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Speaker 3: That was allegedly unrelated from what the show discussed.

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Speaker 2: Right right, If my wife is taking care of me, my two boys, the mortgage, the like bill. If my wife is taking care of all of that, the least I can do so that she can secure her job with her seven figure income. The least I can do is sit on a stool behind her for two hours, max. That's the least I can do to make sure she has a job. And guess what, but she now has no job?

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Speaker 4: What an interesting thing about that?

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Speaker 5: And I think it's horrible, and I agree with you one thousand percent, but you don't understand.

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Speaker 4: Black straight men.

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Speaker 5: Black straight men have so much ego that they don't even want to bend over. Like I've seen some people I ain't gonna say no that on our show that been that don't want to come and they ain't got no income. I'm like, dude, the least you gonna do is come to the scenes. You know what I'm saying, Come on, like you know, but they don't want to come. They feel like they're gonna be ridiculed and were going to somebody. We're gonna talk about it. And to me, if it's been ten years, nine years from me. If y'all gonna talk about me, so what I'm gonna answer the questions. I'm gonna answer them to the best of my capability. Then I'm gonna talk about what you do because your shit don't Your shit stink too? So I don't understand why because one the men don't really they're not feel like I'll tell them.

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Speaker 4: Women, just like Damon said, Listen, I could say.

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Speaker 5: It ain't none of y'all business like, just come up and say that, but support your wife's showing that he gives her no support at all in any way financially, emotionally. You know what I'm saying, That he makes her feel like she's not worthy. And I hate that.

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Speaker 4: For Robin because I love Robin.

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Speaker 5: I don't know whyn from adam Ant, but it looks like on the show he's not a supportive husband in any room.

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Speaker 2: Listen, Robin has allegedly lost her job right allegedly. My heart goes out to Robin because I've always said from day one, Robin is not built for reality television in this magnitude, and the moment I knew that is when a She decided to tell her podcast listeners what she was going through because, let's be real, heavily it's easier for me to talk to somebody on a microphone without you seeing me, versus me having to show you my emotion. That's when I realized Robin isn't built for this. And I was the one, although I was, I was upset, I was the one, right rain drops who said Robin should not get fired because I.

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Speaker 3: At least want to give her the benefit of the.

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Speaker 2: Doubt to show us in real time what she's going through. And she showed up and Ron wantape scenes with her, but.

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Speaker 4: They weren't authentic.

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Speaker 3: They weren't because they.

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Speaker 2: Had a script that was written by Shonda Rimes, directed by Lee Daniels, and scored by Questlove.

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Speaker 1: But the thing is this, Robins.

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Speaker 3: Has been very open about their lack of finances.

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Speaker 4: Or his lack of finances.

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Speaker 3: I'll say theirs because they're well.

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Speaker 2: Look, I wasn't gonna say they were married, but they just got married. You got married to a man who goes to the laundry mad were tied with bleach with quarters. And this man could not sit behind you, but he could sit on the dryer talking to his coworker, who he called beautiful Robin, this man don't love you, he does not like you, he does not respect you, and you lost your job because I'm gonna say this to you. Nine times out of ten, Robin's job would have been secure if one was behind her.

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Speaker 4: I agree that, I agromise you that. I agree with that. I agree with it.

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Speaker 5: But one, my whole thing is her rebuttal is that the stories he tells are so outlandish they have to be true.

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Speaker 4: Which is stupid. It's stupid. He gave you a stupid answer. I remember, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: I remember being an undergrad and my boyfriend at the time used to tell me I used to call him right, and he used to say, you ain't call me, You ain't call me, And I said, I know, I called you.

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Speaker 4: Why you ain't answer the phone? You ain't coming.

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Speaker 5: And then I would talk to my best friend and I would tell my best friend he said he didn't I didn't call him.

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Speaker 4: Maybe my phone didn't go through, She said, the phone went through. Sometimes you would just be stupid.

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Speaker 3: But ho for this, Can I tell you a story really quickly about my business?

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Speaker 4: Please?

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Speaker 1: Please, because we've all listen, we've.

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Speaker 3: All been robbing in our lives before.

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Speaker 2: I never married a wand, but I'm dated a wand before. Okay, long story short, this is a true story, and I was ended and not ever miss it again. When I first started dating the African, we were long distance. I was in New York City, he was in another city. Long story short. We were dating for like a few months heavily, and I kept calling him and he would not ask the phone, and I was pissed. I sent all these nasty text messages. This brother Tucker told me the next morning, Hey, I'm so sorry. I was at a gambling party and a guy came in with a gun and he had us all that gunpoint and I said, oh my god, I'm so sorry that I was bothering you.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Robin, you.

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Speaker 3: Right, We've all been robbing. So I just listen.

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Speaker 1: Robin.

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Speaker 3: I want to say this.

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Speaker 2: You need to cuts off wind because wan go handed Lee calls you your job.

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Speaker 5: I would say that, okay, and we gonna respect her to say that. You know, it looks like he don't like you. He didn't respect you enough to come. And when you're the center of the of the show, you need to come.

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Speaker 4: You just need to.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, but y'all saying he ain't never come. He comes his third season, right.

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Speaker 2: This was the season that mattered because of what he did last season and Robbin's.

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Speaker 3: Robin's profile was at the top.

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Speaker 2: The other person who profile was at the top this reunion was Candace.

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Speaker 4: Okay, her husband Kine Chris.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes again. Candace is the breadwinner. Mia is the breadwinner. You come and support your wife so that that income can come back into the household.

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's hard for.

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Speaker 4: A black man though. I mean, like y'all display to me, this is just me, and I'm gonna say it, and I'm gonna take it back.

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Speaker 5: I got my T shirt. I was gonna put it on, but I ain't had to. I'm gonna say it and I'm gonna take it back. Listen, So I'm gonna say this and I'm gonna take it back. I'm not saying Bravo. I'm not talking about any network. It might be Own, it might be Zeus, Okay, but y'all love to portray a black man either he beating your ass, he cheating.

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Speaker 4: Or he don't have a fucking job.

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Speaker 5: Like why, y'all, you know what I'm saying, Like to me, the black.

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Speaker 4: Man and like doctor Damon, y'all gonna try to taint him.

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Speaker 5: But y'all would love to show or they sassy, show a black man how he should be. And y'all own these reality TV shows would love to make a man either cheating, he ain't got no damn job.

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Speaker 4: This is this is prerequisite he's sassy, or he just you know what I'm saying. Can we see some real black men?

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Speaker 5: Can we see a depiction of what's really well, that's probably what's really out that to men ain't working.

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Speaker 1: But we need.

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Speaker 5: So people can look forward to what a man should be. A man gotta be a provider?

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Speaker 4: Is this we that is you?

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Speaker 2: So listen, And I think that's the reason why we all love Greg Leek's Rest in Peace, right Greg?

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Speaker 3: Because because Greg Lea.

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Speaker 2: Exemplified that and and listen, it is hard for I think any man whose wife is not only the breadwinner.

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Speaker 3: But she's famous.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's why a lot of these men don't want to do the show anymore. Because even with Candace Man, who is a white man, right, this white man doesn't make as much money as Canda does currently because of the TV show, right, so he even showed up after being accused of making another woman feel comfortable. So, as you're watching the reunion, Candace and Gazelle, they have this I'll say it and I'll take it back because I can't find a.

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Speaker 3: The word for it. They have this hatred for each other.

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Speaker 2: It's obvious these two women just do not see it for each other. Now, one thing that Candace was saying, heavenly, she said that Gazelle accused Chris of sexual assault.

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Speaker 4: That strong, now, that's real strong.

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Speaker 2: And at the listen when Giselle made the reference that Chris made her feel uncomfortable.

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Speaker 1: That's one thing.

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Speaker 2: What we can't have is these words being pinpointed as someone who didn't say it.

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Speaker 3: And at the end of the day, Giselle.

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Speaker 2: Never said the words sexual assault out of her mouth. Who said the words, Well, Canvas is the one who said you. She said she left things so uncertain that that was the only conclusion that people came out of it. And people were saying that Gazelle insinuated that now by you being a woman, did you feel that Canvas was right in this regard or that Gizelle was right? I never said it, and I'm not gonna apologize for something I did not say.

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Speaker 5: I think that definitely Gizelle should apologize because I think that the connotation was that the man did someone inappropriate. Based on what I know about Chris and Candace, I don't think he did that.

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Speaker 4: That's just me. I wasn't there that. It's always three sides every store.

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Speaker 5: However, for Candas to say that it was sexual assault, now that's horrible. Candace, you need to pull that back because I don't think Giselle is a messy, low down, dirty bit.

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Speaker 4: She is.

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Speaker 5: She is that, but sexual assault. She did not accuse that man of that. Now, she was saying that she felt uncomfortable.

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Speaker 1: Hell, we could say the.

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Speaker 5: People on our show made people feel uncomfortable with when they having sex with him, not in real life.

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Speaker 4: But do you say sexual assault? No, that's too far.

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Speaker 2: She did say Chris forced her to come to the room, But still is that I want to know, because I'm not a woman, do you.

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Speaker 4: Think that man forced her to come to the room. Do you really think that happened?

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Speaker 5: He might not man, let me talk to you, you know what I'm saying, or something like let's fix this, let me talk to you.

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Speaker 4: He didn't make her he didn't force her.

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Speaker 5: So sexual assault means there's some kind of assault, meaning you touched me inappropriately and I assaulted you like you didn't want an assault that did not happen.

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Speaker 4: So can please she a word? Smith? She could have used a different word. That's what I'm gonna say about that.

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Speaker 2: Based on all of this, though, Candace and Gazelle were asked by Andy if they're able to reach a conclusion to where they're able to apologize to each other, and while Canvas was trying to explain herself, Giselle was adamant that she's not gonna apologize for anything she did. She did say that she has been receiving a lot of death threats due to Candace calling.

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Speaker 3: Her a colorist.

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Speaker 2: Do you believe Gazelle was receiving death threats due to Candas calling her a colorist.

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Speaker 5: That's possible, but I'm gonna tell you this, I don't talked a lot of shit on my show. I've never received the death threat. You know what I'm saying, quote unquote. I don't know if that's true or not.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I can't speak. I don't think that Gazelle would make that up. However, the people on the table said, a lot of them get that threat. So all of them have given there. I've been over out of TV, damnedar ten years and I've never gotten one. So we're gonna pray through that. But however, some people on our show have gotten them.

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Speaker 4: Some people have had.

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Speaker 1: People American medicine.

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Speaker 5: Yes, some people have had people trying to harass them coming up to their jobs that kind of stuff. But people have called my job, but they've never come up saying you know what I mean. They wanted to sacrifice me if you will.

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Speaker 1: So the thing is this because I want to make sure that I say the right things.

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Speaker 2: So they accuse Chris of feeling on the ass of a woman at the party, and that's why Canvas felt like she couldn't say the word assault.

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Speaker 1: Chris.

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Speaker 5: Did they have that on camera? Because if it didn't happen on camera, in my eyes, it didn't happen.

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Speaker 3: You made the actual action of the asking grass because I.

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Speaker 4: Don't believe that about Chris. I know Chris, I know Candace.

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Speaker 5: Chris is like a guy when your reputation precedes you. I don't see now if Jan did it, I believe you know what I'm saying. I'm just saying, I don't believe the guy that Chris is. I know him. He don't seem like to me. Now, I'm not saying yes or no, I don't know. I'm asking you did they get footage of it? Because if they ain't got footage of it, y'all all need to just shut.

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Speaker 4: The hell up.

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Speaker 5: That's like the mysterious receipts. If you ain't got no receipts, what you have it on camera of him touching somebody ass? Because they got Ashley's husband touching men's asses.

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Speaker 4: But they don't have a Canna's husband Chris. No, I don't believe it.

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Speaker 2: Do you believe that Chris had any sort of desire to do anything with Giselle when they're okay?

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Speaker 4: I don't believe that at all. No, I don't. I think that Jesuzelle is a person.

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Speaker 5: That something happened like he might have said, let me talk to you for a minute, or something.

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Speaker 4: Happened and then she took it all away as he had me in.

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Speaker 5: A room and I felt uncomfortable. I don't believe that that was his intention. I think something happened, however, it wasn't like that, that's my thought.

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Speaker 3: Or would you be able to come back from that, like like if and again this is not on.

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Speaker 4: Our show anymore. No no, no, no no no, You're not back from it.

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Speaker 2: No no no. If if one of your cast maids said that Doctor Damon made them feel uncomfortable, no, I couldn't come back from that.

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Speaker 3: You can come back to that.

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Speaker 1: Would they be dead to you?

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Speaker 4: That?

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Speaker 3: I mean in the sense of like the relationship I could.

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Speaker 4: I could be professional. We're gonna feel and we can.

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Speaker 5: But I would not fuck with you no more like seriously, I would not fuck with you on a real basis. No no, not no, not if you're gonna make that up about my man and we both know it's not true.

00:22:43
Speaker 4: No, I wouldn't. Yes, I still feel with you. I'm not gonna say. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: If Andy asked me, hey, can we get it back together and you know we can move forward, yeah we can because I can do that.

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Speaker 4: But I'm not fake. But my old thing is I'm not fucking with you like that. No more. Were not in You're not in my circle.

00:23:00
Speaker 2: That whole situation between Canvas and Gazelle is tricky because were you offended when you saw.

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Speaker 3: Gizelle laughing while Kansas was crying.

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Speaker 4: I did not feel like Candace's cry was authentic.

00:23:14
Speaker 5: It was like she was doing a quad number. What She's trying to have a dramatic scene and she was trying to get up a cry. Maybe it was something that really made her upset before, but at that moment she could not get it.

00:23:24
Speaker 4: And my whole thing is if you can't, my whole thing is, don't fake it. You know what I'm saying? She getting the thing?

00:23:29
Speaker 5: Wait a minute, let me think of something because in my acting classes, I learned that if you put yourself in the space, you can bring.

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Speaker 4: Quad. I'm just telling you the truth. Like they do do that they trying to get a tear. If the tears, I'm out, don't do it.

00:23:46
Speaker 3: I'm out.

00:23:47
Speaker 2: What in the Tasha Smith School of Acting Academy are you?

00:23:57
Speaker 4: And then give me.

00:24:02
Speaker 5: Wait a minute, so I get Gazelle and what she was doing, because it was like she was trying to have a dramatic moment, which will maybe really was a moment for her.

00:24:16
Speaker 4: Stop the till did not drop. Did you see a tear? Because I didn't see it at that time.

00:24:21
Speaker 2: Let's have a real conversation for me, because listen, I love Listen, I love Cannons, I loved Gazelle, and I always keep it running out of what Now before we finished, you said that somebody told.

00:24:35
Speaker 1: You it acting class.

00:24:36
Speaker 5: That that I'm assuming that's what they learned because they do it like they stop, like when somebody said something, either you got to react, reaction to it or not.

00:24:45
Speaker 4: But for you to stop and say, wait a minute.

00:24:50
Speaker 5: Wait, come on, y'all, come on. And I love him, y'all know King, it's my girl. Can't say my truth, Okay, tell you true.

00:25:01
Speaker 2: I love Gazelle, I love Kansas, I love Rob and I'm all the girls me too. Listen, there's been moments of Kansas crying that has been super authentic.

00:25:11
Speaker 1: In my opinion, based on me watching B M F and Mary J.

00:25:16
Speaker 2: Bloch's performance on Power, I can sit here and confidently say Candace was digging gold for a tear.

00:25:27
Speaker 1: She thought about her her mama cussing out Chris.

00:25:32
Speaker 4: I'm gonna hear yeah, so yeah.

00:25:35
Speaker 2: Kansas was thinking about the scene in the Notebook. Canda was thinking about Kate Winslet and the Titanic. Kansas was really trying to get the tear drop to appear and list say, I'm al's gonna be real. Gazelle clocked it and clocked it good.

00:25:51
Speaker 4: I'm already with the tear teer teer.

00:25:54
Speaker 5: I would have slapped the hell out of Jasel. Jeselle made me mad. Fuck Candy because Candy was working hard trying to get her tear out.

00:26:00
Speaker 1: She wasn't working hard.

00:26:01
Speaker 2: And I love Candace, you know I love you. About to be honest, now ze clock the baby.

00:26:08
Speaker 3: In the words of favorite Parts, you are winning.

00:26:12
Speaker 2: That was That was a win for Jazel because even I was like, because I'm gonna tell.

00:26:17
Speaker 3: You what to tell you what messed up? Candace?

00:26:20
Speaker 1: Candace, that wasn't nothing to cry about.

00:26:22
Speaker 5: Sis like that I really don't like and I'm not saying this is true, allegedly true, or not to go through the thing of saying that okay, because Jazelle and Jaselle is.

00:26:33
Speaker 4: A low down, dirty bitch and I love her too.

00:26:36
Speaker 5: I had to say that my husband, you know, not forced, but made me go in a room and I feel uncomfortable to me.

00:26:42
Speaker 4: I don't think that happened that way. I think that maybe she was in a room but she led it up to that. But Jaselle is a mean girl. She's just mean.

00:26:50
Speaker 5: She don't give a damn like Jasea cal and I love that about her because that's great reality TV. However, you got to think about the person on the other side of she was giving that to you out of curse.

00:26:59
Speaker 4: Just last out, Giselle would have got you are a bitch, Jaselle, just like she said, you are a bitch. I bet Youzille ain't crying. I bet you have asked us laughing. When I saw a fam you homecoming, I told.

00:27:12
Speaker 5: Her, I said, Jaselle, you ain't shit girl, you ain't gonna be she said it, she started laughing.

00:27:21
Speaker 4: I love Jaselle too, like Giselle is who she is and she don't give a damn.

00:27:25
Speaker 5: I don't know where that comes from. I got that bed too, but if I'm gonna be there, I'm gonna own it.

00:27:30
Speaker 4: And the chips followed it. Think what you were made of me? But I love that about Jaselle.

00:27:35
Speaker 3: Don't be trying to make That's the thing.

00:27:38
Speaker 2: One thing about you and I we can love you and still be honest about our opinion.

00:27:44
Speaker 1: And that's that's my opinion.

00:27:46
Speaker 2: When it comes to that I looked at it, it was like you got that one, baby, because I didn't.

00:27:53
Speaker 3: I didn't feel it.

00:27:54
Speaker 4: I didn't feel it.

00:27:55
Speaker 3: I didn't feel it at all.

00:27:56
Speaker 4: But you know, when you when you tell the truth like we do. The people say on my show that I'm loyal.

00:28:01
Speaker 1: To no one.

00:28:02
Speaker 5: No, I'm just telling you my honest thoughts in a situation like I'm not gonna lie for you, I'm not. I love kandas Kennis is my girl. We're gonna do lunch when she comes back, but I'm not gonna last say that. It didn't look like she was trying to push out a cry. That's just true te to me.

00:28:17
Speaker 4: That's what I saw. Allegedly. I don't know, maybe she was really.

00:28:20
Speaker 5: Crying, but for the show where the way it looked, it didn't look authentic.

00:28:25
Speaker 3: Do you think how did you feel about canvas props?

00:28:29
Speaker 4: What do you mean?

00:28:30
Speaker 2: Oh?

00:28:30
Speaker 1: Bring it up?

00:28:31
Speaker 4: You know what? Honestly I think that that I love the antics.

00:28:36
Speaker 5: However, I don't believe no props because I could easily.

00:28:39
Speaker 4: Screensaw some shit, put somebody name on it, and put some shit up. I don't believe shit. That's why I say when we get in a portion, And I don't know what the fuck to believe. I don't know. I've learned on reality TV they say that where there's smoke, there's fire.

00:28:53
Speaker 3: No it ain't.

00:28:53
Speaker 4: People make shit up and it don't be no smoke, no fire, So I don't know what to believe of that.

00:28:58
Speaker 3: The props do not help me.

00:29:00
Speaker 4: I think it's cute.

00:29:01
Speaker 5: Maybe for show for TV, it might be some good antis, but for me in believing, no, they don't help me believe allowed today to test, don't help me believe shit. I'm gonna believe what I believe based on a person's character.

00:29:11
Speaker 4: In my mind, No, I agree with that. The thing.

00:29:14
Speaker 2: The thing I want to talk about about props and I'll move on from it is props to me are outdated. The the icon Kenya Moore, that was Kenya Moore, creative prosper reunions and and no one will ever do a better job than Kenya.

00:29:34
Speaker 1: Kenya had a.

00:29:35
Speaker 3: Fan accept and a bullhorn.

00:29:38
Speaker 2: And what I want all reality stars to know is this, do not try to be a student. When Professor Moore killed it, buried it six feet under, put a roset pedal on top of that motherfucker, and have Willie Watkins narrated, we we should.

00:29:56
Speaker 1: Be done with props.

00:29:58
Speaker 4: It's not, it's not. It's not fun anymore.

00:30:01
Speaker 5: Honestly, I thought they they did away with props. They said you can't bring props. That's what I was told one year.

00:30:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's not.

00:30:08
Speaker 3: It's not doing what y'all think it is.

00:30:12
Speaker 1: It's it's it's not now.

00:30:14
Speaker 3: Look, okay, see is right, See is right? See is right? See's right.

00:30:18
Speaker 4: I did it on Love and Marriage, Churnsville on Housewives First.

00:30:22
Speaker 5: What's the name of the one that went from Housewives to Love and mayor Churnsville and DC.

00:30:27
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, now, Moniques Binder is iconic. I'm a I'm a that, I'm i'm a. Monique's Binder is legendary. It's iconic, and I okay, I will say that. See in real time, I'm gonna tell y'all the truth. Moniques Binder should be the last prop on the set because no one can tap Moniques Binder. And the reason why Moniques Binder worked is because she literally had information.

00:30:54
Speaker 4: That was good.

00:30:55
Speaker 1: So that's that.

00:30:57
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Okay, you know what a girl's.

00:31:00
Speaker 5: Coming to reunion look like to me, they too prepared. I would do a jaselle. My old thing is I'm never prepared. I'm sitting there and whatever come to me, I'm gonna answer like you. I'm not goinna bring no props. I'm not gonna bring no old text messages because I don't believe that shit. No way, So nobody but people gonna believe. I'm not gonna bring no drug tests. I'm not gonna bring no no, no.

00:31:19
Speaker 2: No.

00:31:21
Speaker 4: Light detected, none of that. We're gonna have conversation that we're gonna have pure reads. That's all we want. I don't want. I don't care for all that other stuff. My old thing is we grown less. You could talk to me.

00:31:30
Speaker 3: Yeah no, I think a lot of people are too prepared.

00:31:33
Speaker 2: I think I know some people who allegedly hire people to help them with reunions.

00:31:39
Speaker 4: And then it falls flat because you don't never know what doctor heavily gonna say to you now what I did, and you didn't know what to say.

00:31:48
Speaker 2: Yeah no, I think that's old. So we gotta get into the moment of me backstage. Let me tell you something I don't care about. Sierra's prayer, Porsia's prayer. MIA's prayer needs to be a part of the ten Commandments. And I'm gonna tell you why now She'll not or thoushuld not what heavily do what Mia did to that man. I don't know too many chicks that has their husband in the same dressing room as them, and they they they new boot on facetied telling their husband to say hi to.

00:32:37
Speaker 1: Their new boot.

00:32:38
Speaker 3: It looked like one big, happy, dysfunctional family.

00:32:42
Speaker 1: And I am here for all of it. Mia is the.

00:32:46
Speaker 3: Baddest chick in the game. Baby City girls up, baby, you can't even be mad.

00:32:52
Speaker 4: She did her shit. She ain't lying. She doing it in his face.

00:32:56
Speaker 2: He see it.

00:32:57
Speaker 4: She ain't lying about it. It's right there. Ain't gonna allow it. Then, what can we say about it?

00:33:03
Speaker 5: You cannot say to me a liar. The girl tried to throw it under the bus. The girl Wendy said, well, baby, we heard through the great band.

00:33:13
Speaker 4: Did they say that they don't even know who that baby daddy is?

00:33:16
Speaker 5: She said, no, we do, we don't know, She answered, she she owned it, like bitch, No, you know it is a question whether my child is his or not?

00:33:24
Speaker 4: So what so what I got this bitch.

00:33:26
Speaker 5: Don't worry about this, Okay. You trying to make some problems over here. I got this, Okay, I got this taken care of. So Mia, you get the crown for the baddest bitch. Okay, it ain't training no more, it ain't. It ain't the city girls JT and and and and body may Beyonce, damn it. You could sing all the country songs you want to.

00:33:48
Speaker 1: It's not.

00:33:51
Speaker 4: Mia is the queen. Okay, she did it and she I don't know. My other thing is I can't see how man don't lose his damn mind and just and just tear to set up because.

00:34:02
Speaker 5: If I was Gordon, I wouldn't have come. Gordon had a right not to come.

00:34:07
Speaker 4: That's my thought.

00:34:09
Speaker 3: No, it's crazy because of this reason and this reason alone. It's insane that Gordon lost her how he got her, and that.

00:34:21
Speaker 2: To me is what's so interesting, because you hear a lot.

00:34:24
Speaker 3: About that with women.

00:34:26
Speaker 1: Girl, you're gonna lose up how you got whatever?

00:34:30
Speaker 2: Right, Gordon is facing his faith with that because she was already whipped ink when Gordon met her at the Strip club and bought her a car. Was he he was married at the time, as well. Correct, and he was married at the time as well. So the really the thing is this, and this is some advice for y'all in the comments. When your relationship starts off frauduland right, you can't escape karma and you can't escape the law of attraction, right who you attract it was going to be detached.

00:35:09
Speaker 1: Baby.

00:35:10
Speaker 3: If you attract.

00:35:11
Speaker 2: Somebody that already has someone and you do too, what do you think your faith is going to be? So Gordon listen, and I think Gordon's a sweet guy. I don't feel sorry for Gordon at all at all.

00:35:27
Speaker 3: You left your wife for a woman you met at the strip club.

00:35:33
Speaker 4: But he loved her.

00:35:35
Speaker 1: You don't love anybody.

00:35:36
Speaker 3: Who's shaking their tail feather for a dollar.

00:35:39
Speaker 4: Yes, he did. He loved her. He loved her obviously he loved her. He yells her like he loved her.

00:35:46
Speaker 1: He love her.

00:35:47
Speaker 4: He loved it.

00:35:48
Speaker 2: They know.

00:35:48
Speaker 5: May no man gonna go through all of that bullshit will leave. He loves me a dirty drawl. That's that I ain't gonna compare to.

00:35:54
Speaker 4: People I'm talking about.

00:35:56
Speaker 3: When he bought her the car.

00:35:58
Speaker 5: I'm telling you he was smitten with her. Like to me, I think I'm I'm a believer in love at first sight. He was strongly in favor of her. He was smitten with her. You don't just buy a bitch of car. I don't think he's just buying any bitch of car. I think he really, really, really liked, he loved. It was love at first like, that's gonna be my bitch, And she played him, and I has she revealed that she's been talking to this dude the whole time, because that's what I'm seeing.

00:36:26
Speaker 3: So it was reveill last night that.

00:36:31
Speaker 1: She definitely cheated.

00:36:35
Speaker 2: She she and Ink had sex while she was still married to Gordon a couple of years ago.

00:36:42
Speaker 4: We know that. I'm saying, how long have they been married.

00:36:45
Speaker 5: Gordon and Neil, because I think they've been fucking excuse me, baby, sleeping together the whole damn time, even when Gordon Gordon Gordon never had some money, because I'm under the influence that he has some money, so they used him for the money. I would be surprised that Mia was giving this other man the money, some of the money, and he was she was still sleeping. That's what it's giving like. And then when he lost his money, bitch, just like what I'm gonna say, Porsche, I'm gonna say it when you ain't got no money no more, we don't got no use for you. If that's the relationship, I'm just saying, I ain't got nothing to way.

00:37:18
Speaker 2: I never thought about this. You you kind of get you low key gagby you. Really you really I never thought about this. You think, Wait a minute, are you saying to me? When Mia and Ink were together and Gordon bought me a car, Ink said, well, shoot, get it because I could drive that car too.

00:37:42
Speaker 1: And so when Mia said I'm gonna marry him, you're.

00:37:46
Speaker 2: Alleging that Ink said marry him and all the money that Mia was making her and Ink or on the side spending it. So this whole time, you're saying that Mia and Ink were in on this game of taking the money.

00:38:03
Speaker 4: That's what I believe. I don't know shit.

00:38:05
Speaker 5: I'm just speculating, just like you saying, but to me, that's what it's giving. Then you say, somebody say on your show, the guy in't when you ask him a question, he said, no, I ain't never touch me, or why she was making that's what he's supposed to say. They were playing a game together. They were using this old man for his money. They let him marry and you don't know the game. The game is wicked out here.

00:38:27
Speaker 4: My whole thing is she is a stripper. He bought you a car, bitch.

00:38:30
Speaker 5: I can't buy you no car. You better get your car. You better get your car, girl, you better get it. And you want to gone and marry her. We're not gonna mention the baby. The baby is, you know what I mean, Somebody did a DNA's taste somewhere. The baby be looking like the person when it's in a messed up relations situation. The baby always looked like the daddy some kind of way. So I ain't seen the baby, but I guarantee you if the baby, it probably looked like That's why they're saying it it's probably baby, because nobody would even thought of it. That baby looked like ink. And I ain't even seen the baby, Mia. And you can't be mad at me because me, I ain't lying to none of y'all chicks. She's telling the truth.

00:39:10
Speaker 4: I was with him. That baby might not be yours. I told you what I did. You can't be made. She told the truth. She did. She apologize though, like baby I'm sorry.

00:39:20
Speaker 2: That I you know what I mean.

00:39:21
Speaker 4: I let you on. How long were they married? Oh?

00:39:25
Speaker 2: I want it's been like fifty How many years have been married, rain drops?

00:39:29
Speaker 3: I want to say like fifteen sixteen years? He long?

00:39:31
Speaker 4: Oh my god? Until the money ran out.

00:39:34
Speaker 5: That's when the problem started. There's always the money. When you get a woman because she's beautiful at the strip club with your money, you need to keep your money, just like I say anybody I know Gail, Gail. You know this whole story about Gail and her husband, and you.

00:39:48
Speaker 1: Know they were married for eleven years. Heaving lead, thanks, rain drops.

00:39:52
Speaker 5: I'm saying that these women who get these men based on the money, when the money is gone, they gone.

00:40:00
Speaker 2: What. I'm still stuck on this true romance Bonnie and Clyde type of relationship.

00:40:09
Speaker 1: I'm still stuck on.

00:40:11
Speaker 3: I never looked at it that way? Did Mia and inc set this up the whole time? And they never they never broke up.

00:40:20
Speaker 5: I'm saying they probably weren't together consistently, but I'm telling you that he was always on her speed dial whenever she needed some sex or somebody to talk to. He was always there for her when she met him, and she said, Okay, this old dude, he got some money, he owned all this right here.

00:40:36
Speaker 4: He about to buy me a cop, girl, get that cop. We're still gonna be together. You know what I'm saying. I'm gonna date other people too. You know what I'm saying. It's an open relationship. You married so, but we love each other.

00:40:45
Speaker 5: We have an understanding and if you're there for me, if I need you, I'm there, and if you need me, I'm there.

00:40:50
Speaker 2: Now.

00:40:50
Speaker 5: The mucked up part of it is that when the man ran out of money, because they would have still been together and going good.

00:40:58
Speaker 4: That's not you don't think.

00:40:59
Speaker 2: It was on incidence that the moment Gordon lost his money, Mia lost her mind.

00:41:06
Speaker 4: What do you think? I'm a woman.

00:41:08
Speaker 5: I understand how women think. I love my man, rich of poor, you know, sick of help. But these girls ain't shit. You'll think these men ain't shit. Oh, get get a real bitch, Get a real bitch. Come on, now, stay there for the money. Some people are there for the money. Yeah, you ain't like that's surprising.

00:41:26
Speaker 1: No, I'm really.

00:41:29
Speaker 4: Me. Are you shocked? I ain't shocked.

00:41:32
Speaker 1: I'm gagging. I'm acting okay. Wow, Mia, I mean, now, it's so interesting.

00:41:42
Speaker 4: That's my thought. What you're thinking. It's an expert.

00:41:45
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