The Age 40 Wall: Why You Suddenly Start Aging Faster with Alina Rui Su

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<v SPEAKER_01>And surprisingly, the date that I have left is only five days till today.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Like that's how much day that I have left.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Aging is not linear, especially for people when they're entering to mid-40 and mid-50, they're having a huge acceleration.

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<v SPEAKER_04>And that's what like we're kinda aging like this, and then all of a sudden it takes a turn around age.

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<v SPEAKER_04>What did you say?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Mid-f to mid-50.

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<v SPEAKER_04>It just starts going up.

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<v SPEAKER_01>One of the nurse, Jamie, she did the test and realized that one of her biological age elevation is in her heart.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Everything is 10 years younger, but only the heart is 10 years older than herself.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So she decided to do a CT skin, even though she didn't feel anything.

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<v SPEAKER_01>There's no symptoms, there's no family history.

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<v SPEAKER_01>But after she did a CT skin, she did pick up there is a calcification for when people are doing therapeutic plasma exchange.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Their immune system age has been reversed by 11.4 years old.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah, therapeutic plasma exchange kind of explain that.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yes, new albumin in, which is kind of like changing fish tank water, which is turning the entire plasma exchange process into a shot.

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<v SPEAKER_01>If you can see it, you can control it.

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<v SPEAKER_01>You can act on it.

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<v SPEAKER_01>It's not a defined destiny when it comes to your health.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Your health is in your hands.

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<v SPEAKER_04>How old are you?

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<v SPEAKER_04>No, really, how old are you?

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<v SPEAKER_04>Meaning not your actual age, but your cellular age, because that's what matters.

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<v SPEAKER_04>It's going to tell us how long we live.

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<v SPEAKER_04>It could even tell us if we're going to get a chronic disease or not.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Well, you're going to hear how to test your actual cellular age, but the most accurate test right now that you're going to be able to do to find out that, and we're going to find out all about the science.

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<v SPEAKER_04>I can't wait for this interview because I did the test.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Wait till you hear my actual age.

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<v SPEAKER_04>I'm here with Alina of Generation Labs.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Thank you for being here.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Thanks for having me.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah, well, this is an important question.

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<v SPEAKER_04>I think people want to know how old really I am I, right?

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<v SPEAKER_04>Because I know insurance companies now are looking at these tests because they're so accurate.

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<v SPEAKER_02>Yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_04>And they're looking at going, yeah, okay, we can ask people a bunch of questions, but if we know their cellular age, we kind of know when they're going to die, as gruesome as that is.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Is that true?

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<v SPEAKER_04>True.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_01>True.

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<v SPEAKER_01>But most importantly is after you're knowing your biological age, you'll know which part of your body is breaking down faster, thus preventing the disease from happening.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Okay.

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<v SPEAKER_04>So I and I think that's really cool about this test.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Literally, so you'll find out which parts of my body are the weakest.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Okay.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So and the strongest.

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<v SPEAKER_04>And the strongest, which I that kind of excited me when I saw my results.

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<v SPEAKER_04>And I think all of you are going to want to take this test.

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<v SPEAKER_04>And I think it's very inexpensive.

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<v SPEAKER_04>But so many of these tests have hit the market.

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<v SPEAKER_04>The first ones were telomere testing.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Yes.

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<v SPEAKER_04>And telomere testing, um, we'll talk about it.

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<v SPEAKER_04>There were some drawbacks, there were some inaccuracies.

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<v SPEAKER_04>I'm the guy who tests things and then tests things again and again, and I see the accuracies or inaccuracies.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Okay.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_04>My wife's test, this is what flagged me that telomere testing can't be that great because I think she was probably 50 when we took the test, and she came out to be like under 35.

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<v SPEAKER_04>It couldn't even test her.

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<v SPEAKER_04>So I'm like, there's no way my wife's very flattering.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Flattering.

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<v SPEAKER_04>And then I got the text, something called DNA methylation.

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<v SPEAKER_04>We'll talk about that.

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<v SPEAKER_04>What makes this test so different than all these other um biological age tests, and sometimes referred to as um the uh what's the clock that they call it?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Asian clocks.

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<v SPEAKER_01>What is it called?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Harvard clock.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, there's a bunch of different names.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, that's right.

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<v SPEAKER_01>There's a lot of different names.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_04>So what makes this one so unique compared to these other tests?

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<v SPEAKER_04>Because this is new science.

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<v SPEAKER_04>This is breaking, you know, this is a breakthrough science.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And very great question.

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<v SPEAKER_01>We published this paper as a discovery, breakthrough discovery on the cover of Asian, which is a peer-reviewed scientific journal, very well known in this industry in scientific journal.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And this is called Fail Test of DNA methylation clocks, which is all of the previous model, that they are using a model to predict what her biological age looked like.

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<v SPEAKER_01>But the prediction always is having arrows because they're assuming that you're having one gray hair per day.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Like mathematically, I have a lot of gray hair.

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<v SPEAKER_01>51, 52, 53, that makes sense.

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<v SPEAKER_01>But biologically, you're not having one gray hair per day.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Like you're not aging linearly.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So you might heard about a news that saying aging is not linear, especially for people when they're entering into mid-40 and mid-50, they're having a huge acceleration.

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<v SPEAKER_04>And that's what So, like we're we're kind of aging like this, and then all of a sudden it takes a turn around age.

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<v SPEAKER_04>What did you say?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Mid-40.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Okay, mid-40s, and it just starts going up.

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<v SPEAKER_04>That sucks, right?

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<v SPEAKER_04>I mean, but that kind of explains like why you start getting hurt more, right?

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<v SPEAKER_04>I got this tendinitis, right?

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<v SPEAKER_04>So that's that acceleration.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Exactly.

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<v SPEAKER_04>And is that is that in our clock?

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<v SPEAKER_04>Meaning, is that in our DNA that that happens?

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<v SPEAKER_01>That's what we are seeing after we have collected more than half a million of the data samples, starting from 25 years old to 85 years old.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And what we have found is that when we're putting them into one line, what we are seeing is no matter if it's telomere or inflammation marker, there's no very straight line or there's no a tendency of it's always being increased or decreased.

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<v SPEAKER_01>But what's always consistent is that the expression, which is the noise level of your gene expression, is always changing.

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<v SPEAKER_04>I I want to back up because I I know that we just said a lot of things that a lot of people don't understand.

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<v SPEAKER_04>So for the sake of my I'm gonna bring this so you understand it.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Okay.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Let's let's talk about telomeres first, because that got people's first attention.

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<v SPEAKER_04>It's it was the it was always said that it was the only biological clock that we could look at.

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<v SPEAKER_04>And telomeres, I always describe it it you know, you have a shoelace on with the plastic uh on it.

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<v SPEAKER_04>I don't.

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<v SPEAKER_04>But it's that if you think about a telomere, the end of that shoelace with that plastic, that's your covering that protects the shoelace.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah, but that's also kind of like your telomere, right?

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<v SPEAKER_04>And we measure that in something called basis.

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<v SPEAKER_04>The shorter it gets, the closer to death, right?

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<v SPEAKER_04>And once it hits like around 5,000, you're pretty much a goner.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Is that right?

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<v SPEAKER_01>It's kind of interesting that that's what people have thought.

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<v SPEAKER_01>But from scientific discovery, like I'm coming from research background.

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<v SPEAKER_02>Yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I was doing my research in Harvard Medical School before that in UC Berkeley with Dr.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Irina Comboy, who is the co-founder, co-founder of the company now.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And before she was my professor.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And now we're gonna like that.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yes.

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<v SPEAKER_01>What we have found is interestingly, that's what people have thought that as people are aging, their telomere is getting shorter.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Shorter insurance.

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<v SPEAKER_01>But at the same time, what we are seeing is when people are getting sick or when they're during COVID, their telomere also is getting shorter.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Faster.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Faster.

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<v SPEAKER_01>But after they're recovering, their telomere grow back to longer.

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<v SPEAKER_04>So it's dynamic.

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<v SPEAKER_01>It's very dynamic and it's related to your immune system rather than your aging speed.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Oh.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So rather than it's directly as a measurement tool of a aging speed, we tell it it's more correlated to the immune system, which means in entire aging area, there's a lot of causation versus correlation.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Causation means if A changes, then B definitely changes.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Like if there is rain, then there's umbrella.

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<v SPEAKER_01>But correlation is when there is umbrella, there's rain.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Like that is true on one standpoint from A to B.

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<v SPEAKER_04>But some people use umbrellas for sun.

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<v SPEAKER_04>That's not a perfect causation.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Exactly.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So telomere is a perfect example in this case that scientifically we have discovered that yes, somehow it's related to your immune system, but it's not a great indicator for your biological age.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Got it.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Because it's always dynamically changing.

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<v SPEAKER_04>So I mean, is it a good marker of your immune system or is it not great because it's only your immune system in that moment?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yes, in that moment.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Okay.

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<v SPEAKER_01>It's always a snapshot of the piece that you are seeing.

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<v SPEAKER_01>That's why people are seeing their telomere age is changing 20 years old within a day or two.

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<v SPEAKER_04>And that's why so when I said I wasn't that impressed, when I did the results a month later, I got a very different number.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Exactly.

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<v SPEAKER_04>So then in my brain, I go, eh, I throw the baby out with the bathwater, it's not accurate.

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<v SPEAKER_04>But it's just because they didn't understand.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And similar thing is happening to all of the Asian clocks as well, because they're using a similar model.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Asian clocks?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Why are they calling that?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Hor Hover's clock.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah, yeah, that's what I knew it as.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Yes, hover clock.

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<v SPEAKER_04>That was a guy's name.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yes, it's named after Steve Hovrost.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And he is the first person to create it's this prediction-based clock that's saying that this model can predict your biological age according to your chronological age.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Okay.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Which is think about it like one step back.

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<v SPEAKER_01>If you're actually able to tell my biological age, do you need my chronological age as an input?

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<v SPEAKER_04>No.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Right?

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<v SPEAKER_04>No.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So the real input of these kind of clocks is that they will ask about your chronological age.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And according to this, this is as a baseline.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And they will tell you what is your biological age as a predictor, which is not a thing that's scientifically or biologically makes sense.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Because if I'm telling you that I can predict your HBA1C level, which is to see if you're having diabetes or not, that doesn't make sense.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So we have to create a very accurate measurement tool to measure what is the epigenetic change level in our body rather than doing prediction.

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<v SPEAKER_04>People don't understand epigenetics.

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<v SPEAKER_04>So there's probably needs a little bit of explanation.

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<v SPEAKER_04>I love to explain.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah, exactly.

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<v SPEAKER_04>So people understand genetics because for years we were said, oh, you just have a thyroid condition because your mother had it, father, your genetics.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Yes.

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<v SPEAKER_04>You're gonna get uh you have an increased breast scans because you're genetics.

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<v SPEAKER_04>So we know that genetics can predispose us to good things and bad things.

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<v SPEAKER_04>And that's the hardware.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Exactly.

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<v SPEAKER_04>That's the hardware, but epigenetics is software.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Exactly.

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<v SPEAKER_04>And we learned that it's not so simple to say your mother had diabetes, you're gonna get diabetes too.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Epigenetics means it can change.

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<v SPEAKER_01>It can change, and that's the powerful part of it.

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<v SPEAKER_01>That 80% of why people are aging is because of epigenetic.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Above the genes, more important than your genes.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, it's kind of like epigenetic is the switches on your genes.

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<v SPEAKER_01>It doesn't mean that you have like Apollo E4, then you're definitely gonna have Alzheimer's disease.

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<v SPEAKER_01>It depends on your epigenetic, which is controlled by your environment, stress level, lifestyle changes, hormonal changes, everything, the coffee that you have drinked, or the alcohol that you have drink last night.

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<v SPEAKER_01>It's all impacting epigenetic, which is controlling your genetic expression.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Even though you're turn off, so you can turn genes on.

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<v SPEAKER_04>We all have genes in our hardware, right?

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<v SPEAKER_04>And for better or for worse, yes.

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<v SPEAKER_04>We all have autoimmune potential, we all have different potentials for different diseases.

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<v SPEAKER_04>But whether it's turned on or not is the key.

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<v SPEAKER_04>And you're saying environmental factors, how we eat, how we exercise, all the good things, bad things we do can turn those things on and off.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yes.

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<v SPEAKER_04>So this newer test is looking at what's turned on and not.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Exactly.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Okay.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So this test is choosing 460 genetic markers, like we call it as CPG sites.

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<v SPEAKER_01>That's crucial for all of the aging process.

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<v SPEAKER_01>If any of these genes are changing, that will change your entire homeostasis, your cell-to-cell communication, metabolism.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So these 460 genes are handpicked by us.

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<v SPEAKER_01>That any of these genes' expression is changing.

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<v SPEAKER_01>That means you're having a traumatic aging.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And these 460 genes, 15 of them is representing your brain age, 17 of them is representing your heart age, 10 of them is representing your reproductive system's age.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So now we can see you as a whole body, like the dashboard for your car as you're driving the car.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Before the car is breaking down, you might hear some noises.

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<v SPEAKER_04>And we will be telling you that the knee, the shoulder, yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Right.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Where is the noise coming from?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Like, is it the brake?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Is this the engine?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Is it the knee?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Is it the heart?

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<v SPEAKER_04>These gin, these things that are turned on and off, that is really the aging clock.

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<v SPEAKER_04>That's right.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Meaning that's giving us a whole look at all the parts in the car and the engine.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Is it safe to say telomere testing is I'm looking at the age of this car and I notice that the tires are pretty worn.

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<v SPEAKER_04>So I'll make an assumption that there's a lot of miles on this car.

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<v SPEAKER_04>But this, and and that could be accurate or not, though, because what if they got different tires?

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<v SPEAKER_04>Exactly.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Okay, but this is looking at all the parts in the engine.

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<v SPEAKER_04>So a good mechanic would be like, listen, I know they're telling you there's a hundred thousand miles on this car, but I'm telling you there's more because they're looking at the transmission going, this thing's worn out.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Yes.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Is that is that a good analogy?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Every single part's in the body.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So instead of just telling you that, hey, you look like 18 years old, we'll tell you that which part of her body is the most vulnerable part that's more having potential to breaking down, and which part of her body is the youngest.

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<v SPEAKER_04>I I just there's a funny joke, because here we are in LA, right?

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<v SPEAKER_04>And you know, a lot of people are doing a lot of body work.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Yes.

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<v SPEAKER_04>You see all these, you know, people with all these, you can't tell women's ages anymore.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_04>But this is look at Chris Jenner.

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<v SPEAKER_04>I mean, you could you can get a new paint job on the car.

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<v SPEAKER_04>You can put new wheels on it and wow, this car's brand new.

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<v SPEAKER_04>But we look in the engine and all the parts and go, yeah, not so much.

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<v SPEAKER_04>And that's what this test does, right?

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<v SPEAKER_04>It looks into the inner parts.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And especially in beauty, people always have been injecting a lot of things in on their face.

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<v SPEAKER_01>But now people have realized that beauty is really inside out.

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<v SPEAKER_01>If you're having a very plastic face, but very tiring atmosphere in your body is kind of sending out the tiring signal, then you can tell that this person is odored and normally does.

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<v SPEAKER_01>But if it's very young energy, it's very healthy, it's very vibrant, you're functioning as you're a young body.

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<v SPEAKER_01>That's where we want to get everyone else is getting into this stage.

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<v SPEAKER_04>So now, okay, telomere testing.

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<v SPEAKER_04>This is based on something called DNA methylation, right?

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<v SPEAKER_04>There was some DNA methylation tests out there that many people have used in the past.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Um, how does this one differ?

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<v SPEAKER_04>Because I know some people are gonna say, well, I did DNA methylation tests, but this is really new science.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Yes.

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<v SPEAKER_04>So tell us the difference of the this one versus those.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So the core difference is how we are measuring the DNA methylation is different.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So previous model, it's caught.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Let me back up.

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<v SPEAKER_04>DNA methylation, is that kind of the switch?

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<v SPEAKER_04>Yes, exactly.

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<v SPEAKER_04>So we're looking at how many switches are turned on for better or for worse.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Um that's part of it.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Okay.

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<v SPEAKER_01>There's two things that's coreally different compared to what is the breakthrough that we re we recently happened in scientific.

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<v SPEAKER_01>One is that how we are picking the genes are completely different.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Before, people are using tens of millions of the genes trying to understand what's happening in aging.

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<v SPEAKER_01>But after spending two decades of science led by Dr.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Irina Comboy in UC Berkeley Comboy lab, she's the brain, she's the brains behind.

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<v SPEAKER_04>She is the brains behind.

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<v SPEAKER_04>You're pretty brainy yourself.

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<v SPEAKER_04>I'm not knocking you here, but um but yeah, we'll we'll talk about her.

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<v SPEAKER_04>But finish your point.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yes.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Sorry.

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<v SPEAKER_01>She discovered that through 20 years that in half a million of the data sample from 25 to 85 years old, that these 460 genes should never change.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So she handpicked these genes, which is reducing all of the noise that's predicting how is it happening?

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<v SPEAKER_04>What do you mean by noise?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Great point.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Remember, I was referring to the car noise that before the car is breaking down, you are actually starting to hearing noise that either coming from the engine, from the brake.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Now we can see what is the noise level in your body, which is referring to the standard deviation.

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<v SPEAKER_04>That is a good thing because when I hear a noise in my house or my car, I always go, What is that?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_04>And it because it's an indicator to me something's broke.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Exactly.

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<v SPEAKER_04>So it's good analogy.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And it's not yet broken yet.

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<v SPEAKER_04>All right.

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<v SPEAKER_01>You're just hearing something as a very early signal before things are turning into disease being manifested.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And what we are measuring is called standard deviation of the gene expression, which is in human terms, that means how random is our gene expression is.

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<v SPEAKER_01>When people are young, in around their 25 years old, we're seeing this gene expression is very tightly regulated and tightly controlled, like a very strong army.

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<v SPEAKER_01>If you're saying A, it's doing A.

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<v SPEAKER_04>They're in step.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Boom, boom, everything's working good, right?

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<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah, okay.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And as people are growing older in their 85 years old, these gene expressions are becoming very noisy and very random.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Out of step.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yes, out of step.

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<v SPEAKER_01>People don't know what to do.

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<v SPEAKER_01>When you're telling A, they're doing B, D, F, G, they're doing random stuff based on this code expression.

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<v SPEAKER_04>And so that starts to create noise.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yes, and that starts to create noise.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So noise is basically randomness, which is entropy that we're creating in our body, which is in in the entire universe that we are seeing.

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<v SPEAKER_01>This is law of thermodynamics as a second law.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And that's what we are measuring in our body.

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<v SPEAKER_01>How noisy is your gene is being expressed.

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<v SPEAKER_04>So a noisy gene is not a good gene.

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<v SPEAKER_04>We don't like a lot of noisy genes, right?

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<v SPEAKER_04>Meaning, like, oh wow, that means you're starting to squeak, starting to get noise, you're starting to age prematurely.

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<v SPEAKER_04>These end up in bad cells.

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<v SPEAKER_04>So it's aging you prematurely.

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<v SPEAKER_04>And you probably see that on people's face and skin.

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<v SPEAKER_04>And but internally, you know, you're not able to see what your liver, your kidney, your immune system looks like.

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<v SPEAKER_04>But now all of a sudden your immune system is misfiring.

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<v SPEAKER_04>That could end up in autoimmune, yes, hyperimmunity.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Yes.

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<v SPEAKER_04>That can end up in low immunity, confusion static.

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<v SPEAKER_04>I think everyone gets that.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And what a powerful point about this test is we're seeing there's a lot of real life case studies that has been returned after people are doing this test.

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<v SPEAKER_01>One of the nurse, Jamie, she did the test and realized that one of her biological age elevation is in her heart.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Everything is 10 years younger, but only the heart is 10 years older than herself.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So she decided to do a CT scan, even though she didn't feel anything.

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<v SPEAKER_01>There's no symptoms, there's no family history.

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<v SPEAKER_01>But after she did a CT scan, she did pick up.

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<v SPEAKER_01>There is a calcification starting to be forming in her cardiovascular system, which is a part of the aging process, a very signal, early signal.

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<v SPEAKER_04>For fun, let's because I think everyone has a really good background now, right?

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<v SPEAKER_04>I think, right?

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<v SPEAKER_04>And um, let's look at, let's look at my test.

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<v SPEAKER_04>I'm gonna give it to you because you know exactly.

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<v SPEAKER_04>So on just, and I don't know how important this marker is, but it kind of told me I'm aging five years, pacing under my age.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Yes.

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<v SPEAKER_04>My wife was six.

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<v SPEAKER_04>She's gonna want to say that.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Why didn't you tell?

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<v SPEAKER_04>Because she beats me on all these tests, okay.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Um, and but my friend Dr.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Katie said, Oh, wow, that's pretty good.

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<v SPEAKER_04>That's very good.

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<v SPEAKER_04>I was disappointed.

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<v SPEAKER_04>I was like, well, shoot, I wanted to be 20 years, you know.

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<v SPEAKER_04>But, anyways, but um in but I thought it was remarkable because some of the things that I saw that were under were important things.

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<v SPEAKER_04>And um, I thought my wife's was really good, actually.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Yes.

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<v SPEAKER_04>But anyway, so look at that and tell us what you see.

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<v SPEAKER_01>First of all, your biological age is 5.2 years younger than yourself, which means you're dramatically younger than your chronological age.

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<v SPEAKER_01>You don't need to look at your passport age anymore.

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<v SPEAKER_01>This is your biological age.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Okay.

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<v SPEAKER_01>This is how much your biological age.

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<v SPEAKER_04>I wanted it to be younger than that.

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<v SPEAKER_01>You will be able to.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And that's the power of it.

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<v SPEAKER_01>This is your baseline.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And after six months or quarter, you can do another test.

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<v SPEAKER_04>And I'm gonna do that because I said that.

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<v SPEAKER_04>So not interesting.

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<v SPEAKER_04>I put these things in called cell factors, and um, and I'm gonna see because evidently it changes epigenetics, and I'm gonna see what it is.

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<v SPEAKER_04>There you go.

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<v SPEAKER_04>I'm gonna report it.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Yes.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So any of the if you're using peptides, supplements, stem cell, anything, yeah, you can do your protocol according to what's causing you aging right now.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So let's see what is your youngest organs right now.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah, yeah, let's hear.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, because I it's your immune system, which is 8.9 years younger than yourself.

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<v SPEAKER_04>I think that's a if I had one to choose, would that be the one?

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<v SPEAKER_04>I would want my brain or my immune system to be number one.

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<v SPEAKER_04>So totally.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And then it's your respiratory system, which means you're having a very strong lung capacity.

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<v SPEAKER_01>You're doing fitness, clean air exposure.

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<v SPEAKER_04>There you go.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So we're able to pick up that.

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<v SPEAKER_04>I'm very genetically, I can go far.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Like you know, my coach always said, Dan, you should run marathons.

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<v SPEAKER_04>And I was like, I don't want to run that.

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<v SPEAKER_04>I want to sprint.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Well, I can see that because a very good immune system also means you're having a good rest, good stress management, very good balanced nutrition, and very strong pathogen defense.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So if I'm choosing one of the factors of what's causing aging mainly, it's gonna be inflammation and immune system.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So that's very good for you.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Good.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Oncogenesis is also very good.

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<v SPEAKER_01>That means no cancer in my future.

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<v SPEAKER_01>No cancer.

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<v SPEAKER_01>That's huge.

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<v SPEAKER_04>See?

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<v SPEAKER_01>It's very good.

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<v SPEAKER_01>That means your cellular defenses of DNA repair mechanism is very good in your body, which is preventing you from getting cancer.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So very strong.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And now let's see what is your top aging risks, which means I get to this.

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<v SPEAKER_04>I was making Dr.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Katie really jealous.

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<v SPEAKER_04>She's off camera, by the way.

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<v SPEAKER_04>And we keep this in.

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<v SPEAKER_04>She's off camera, so I was just trying to make her a little jealous.

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<v SPEAKER_04>She's actually Dr.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Katie's the one that led me to this technology.

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<v SPEAKER_04>And uh, and so I I'm appreciative of that.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, there you go.

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<v SPEAKER_01>There's more than thousands of doctors that's using this test already, not only on themselves, also on their clients, celebrities.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So we're seeing Kim Kardashian is doing this test, all of the family is doing the test.

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<v SPEAKER_04>I see why.

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<v SPEAKER_04>That's it's really exciting.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Okay, what are my negatives?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Okay.

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<v SPEAKER_01>One of them is muscular system and Fibrosis.

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<v SPEAKER_04>I like, okay, I just told you.

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<v SPEAKER_04>I don't want to brag, okay, but I'm 60 and I for my 60th birthday, I 60 push-ups.

00:22:07.839 --> 00:22:09.680
<v SPEAKER_04>My son was like, Dad, you could have done more.

00:22:09.839 --> 00:22:11.200
<v SPEAKER_04>I did 20 pull-ups.

00:22:11.279 --> 00:22:12.640
<v SPEAKER_04>I can do one-arm push-ups.

00:22:12.960 --> 00:22:14.400
<v SPEAKER_04>How did that come up the worst?

00:22:14.559 --> 00:22:15.359
<v SPEAKER_04>I don't understand.

00:22:15.680 --> 00:22:20.720
<v SPEAKER_01>Usually right after you're doing exercise, your body does create noise, especially in your own.

00:22:20.880 --> 00:22:21.039
<v SPEAKER_01>Dr.

00:22:21.119 --> 00:22:22.480
<v SPEAKER_04>Katie, I exercise that muscle.

00:22:23.039 --> 00:22:24.000
<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah, she did tell me.

00:22:24.240 --> 00:22:24.400
<v SPEAKER_04>Yes.

00:22:24.720 --> 00:22:31.039
<v SPEAKER_01>So exercise, right after exercise, does actually create more noise in your body, especially in your muscular system.

00:22:31.279 --> 00:22:31.359
<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah.

00:22:31.920 --> 00:22:33.039
<v SPEAKER_04>Because you're breaking muscle down.

00:22:33.200 --> 00:22:33.359
<v SPEAKER_04>Yes.

00:22:33.759 --> 00:22:35.440
<v SPEAKER_04>So that it that's amazingly accurate there.

00:22:35.599 --> 00:22:36.640
<v SPEAKER_04>So it picked up that stress.

00:22:36.799 --> 00:22:36.960
<v SPEAKER_04>Yes.

00:22:37.279 --> 00:22:39.599
<v SPEAKER_04>So maybe not exercise before you you do that.

00:22:39.680 --> 00:22:40.240
<v SPEAKER_04>And Dr.

00:22:40.319 --> 00:22:41.599
<v SPEAKER_04>Katie probably told me not to do that.

00:22:41.680 --> 00:22:42.319
<v SPEAKER_04>I probably didn't listen.

00:22:42.400 --> 00:22:42.799
<v SPEAKER_04>But okay.

00:22:43.200 --> 00:22:44.400
<v SPEAKER_04>So let's cut that one off.

00:22:44.480 --> 00:22:45.119
<v SPEAKER_04>What's next?

00:22:45.440 --> 00:22:53.440
<v SPEAKER_01>And the rest, as you see, it's all green, which means it's all very good, but we're still picking the top five aging risks for you.

00:22:53.599 --> 00:22:58.880
<v SPEAKER_01>So whenever that you're choosing your protocol, this is going to be helping you to guide your targets.

00:22:59.039 --> 00:22:59.279
<v SPEAKER_02>Okay.

00:22:59.519 --> 00:23:03.599
<v SPEAKER_01>The next one is tissue regeneration and inflammation regulation.

00:23:03.839 --> 00:23:04.079
<v SPEAKER_04>Okay.

00:23:04.160 --> 00:23:06.640
<v SPEAKER_04>And here's the thing that I hate about that one.

00:23:06.799 --> 00:23:07.119
<v SPEAKER_04>Okay.

00:23:08.079 --> 00:23:13.039
<v SPEAKER_04>In the last year, I all of a sudden get start getting these tendinitises.

00:23:13.279 --> 00:23:15.920
<v SPEAKER_04>I got patella tendinitis, never had it before.

00:23:16.079 --> 00:23:19.359
<v SPEAKER_04>I got like golfer's elbow, like, you know, who gets that?

00:23:19.440 --> 00:23:19.599
<v SPEAKER_04>Right.

00:23:19.759 --> 00:23:22.319
<v SPEAKER_04>You know, actually, this one that I healed that.

00:23:22.400 --> 00:23:24.000
<v SPEAKER_04>And then I got tennis elbow, right?

00:23:24.079 --> 00:23:26.480
<v SPEAKER_04>This, you know, these the itises that we call.

00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:32.640
<v SPEAKER_04>And then all of a sudden, like my sits muscle, uh, super spinace got a little inflamed.

00:23:32.799 --> 00:23:35.680
<v SPEAKER_04>It's like that sucks because that's what that said.

00:23:36.000 --> 00:23:36.160
<v SPEAKER_04>Yes.

00:23:36.480 --> 00:23:36.640
<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah.

00:23:36.799 --> 00:23:42.559
<v SPEAKER_04>So I have to turn that gene off because that means that my tendon connections are not recovering.

00:23:42.799 --> 00:23:43.279
<v SPEAKER_01>Yes.

00:23:43.599 --> 00:23:52.640
<v SPEAKER_01>And that means if you're choosing anything starting from if it's peptide, supplement, or lifestyle changes, it's going to target inflammation.

00:23:52.880 --> 00:23:54.160
<v SPEAKER_04>Here's the best part about the test.

00:23:54.319 --> 00:23:54.559
<v SPEAKER_04>Okay.

00:23:54.640 --> 00:24:04.559
<v SPEAKER_04>So because of the test, it said it suggestions were um take GHKCU, which is a copper peptide, which helps the thing.

00:24:04.720 --> 00:24:06.079
<v SPEAKER_04>BPC157.

00:24:06.240 --> 00:24:06.480
<v SPEAKER_04>Exactly.

00:24:07.119 --> 00:24:10.240
<v SPEAKER_04>So I started taking those more consistently instead of random.

00:24:10.480 --> 00:24:10.880
<v SPEAKER_04>There you go.

00:24:11.039 --> 00:24:12.799
<v SPEAKER_04>And already, you know, it's helped me.

00:24:12.880 --> 00:24:14.400
<v SPEAKER_04>So it gives you suggestions.

00:24:14.559 --> 00:24:14.720
<v SPEAKER_04>Yes.

00:24:14.880 --> 00:24:19.119
<v SPEAKER_04>Like here was my number one weakness, which is exactly what I was feeling for the last year.

00:24:19.200 --> 00:24:20.880
<v SPEAKER_04>And then it gave me suggestions, which is great.

00:24:21.279 --> 00:24:29.920
<v SPEAKER_01>The core about this test is it's a GPS for your longevity or health journey that will tell you that, hey, this is the direction that you should go.

00:24:30.079 --> 00:24:37.519
<v SPEAKER_01>Instead of trusting 30 supplements in your closet right now or different peptides that you see on the news, do this because this is what's going on.

00:24:40.480 --> 00:24:41.279
<v SPEAKER_04>Just some basic things.

00:24:41.359 --> 00:24:44.880
<v SPEAKER_04>I literally did everything that it's saying because I was like, that makes sense.

00:24:45.039 --> 00:24:46.000
<v SPEAKER_04>That actually makes sense.

00:24:46.079 --> 00:24:49.440
<v SPEAKER_04>Uh, even down to like um, I think it, you know, zinc.

00:24:49.519 --> 00:24:51.759
<v SPEAKER_04>I I, you know, anyway, I'm doing everything it said.

00:24:51.920 --> 00:24:56.480
<v SPEAKER_04>How can people I we're we're moving on, but people write what how do we get them to take the test?

00:24:56.640 --> 00:24:57.680
<v SPEAKER_04>How do we, yeah.

00:24:57.839 --> 00:24:59.599
<v SPEAKER_04>So how do we we'll make it available?

00:24:59.759 --> 00:25:01.920
<v SPEAKER_04>See, because everyone's right now going, I want to take this test.

00:25:02.000 --> 00:25:02.160
<v SPEAKER_04>Yes.

00:25:02.400 --> 00:25:02.799
<v SPEAKER_04>I would be.

00:25:03.039 --> 00:25:04.960
<v SPEAKER_01>Well, you can order the test directly online.

00:25:05.039 --> 00:25:10.799
<v SPEAKER_01>Just go to generationlab.com and we're gonna have a special code for the podcast, whoever is listening to the podcast.

00:25:10.960 --> 00:25:21.039
<v SPEAKER_01>And it's a very simple test that you guys will be seeing that it's a self-collection blood kit that you will attach this device on your arm.

00:25:21.200 --> 00:25:25.920
<v SPEAKER_01>And after five minutes, it will collect a blood about 0.5 milliliter in this tube.

00:25:26.240 --> 00:25:26.880
<v SPEAKER_01>It was so easy.

00:25:26.960 --> 00:25:28.240
<v SPEAKER_01>I it was like it, right?

00:25:28.559 --> 00:25:32.000
<v SPEAKER_04>And then it was like I looked down and it was like literally filling up and took it off.

00:25:32.079 --> 00:25:32.319
<v SPEAKER_04>It was it.

00:25:32.640 --> 00:25:33.039
<v SPEAKER_04>There you go.

00:25:33.119 --> 00:25:33.279
<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah.

00:25:33.359 --> 00:25:33.519
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

00:25:33.599 --> 00:25:35.839
<v SPEAKER_01>And after this, everything is already pre-printed.

00:25:36.079 --> 00:25:37.519
<v SPEAKER_01>There is a label behind this.

00:25:37.599 --> 00:25:42.319
<v SPEAKER_01>You can put it in the label and drop it to any of the USPS blue box.

00:25:42.400 --> 00:25:42.480
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

00:25:42.640 --> 00:25:43.279
<v SPEAKER_01>And that's it.

00:25:43.519 --> 00:25:50.480
<v SPEAKER_01>After about three weeks or so, you'll be getting a result and you'll be matched with a doctor to actually go through the result with you.

00:25:50.559 --> 00:25:52.799
<v SPEAKER_01>So you know what is the next step and what are you gonna do.

00:25:53.119 --> 00:25:54.079
<v SPEAKER_04>That's that's cool.

00:25:54.240 --> 00:25:56.960
<v SPEAKER_04>I didn't do that part of it because I knew I was gonna be here one time.

00:25:57.359 --> 00:25:57.759
<v SPEAKER_04>So yeah.

00:25:57.839 --> 00:25:58.799
<v SPEAKER_04>So um okay.

00:25:58.880 --> 00:26:00.079
<v SPEAKER_04>Is it do we go through all that?

00:26:00.240 --> 00:26:00.400
<v SPEAKER_04>Okay.

00:26:00.480 --> 00:26:01.119
<v SPEAKER_04>Yes, okay.

00:26:01.279 --> 00:26:01.599
<v SPEAKER_04>It's maybe.

00:26:01.839 --> 00:26:02.319
<v SPEAKER_04>I wanted more.

00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:04.000
<v SPEAKER_04>I was like, look at it more.

00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:08.240
<v SPEAKER_04>Um, so what was uh that was what was my next week at weakness on there?

00:26:08.480 --> 00:26:09.279
<v SPEAKER_04>It's metabolism.

00:26:09.440 --> 00:26:09.759
<v SPEAKER_04>Okay.

00:26:10.000 --> 00:26:12.319
<v SPEAKER_04>Anything that's such crap, metabolism.

00:26:12.400 --> 00:26:12.880
<v SPEAKER_04>What do you mean?

00:26:12.960 --> 00:26:13.599
<v SPEAKER_04>Tell me about that.

00:26:13.920 --> 00:26:16.720
<v SPEAKER_01>Let me ask you something that's related to metabolism.

00:26:16.960 --> 00:26:20.000
<v SPEAKER_01>Are you eating regularly every day?

00:26:20.319 --> 00:26:20.960
<v SPEAKER_04>What's that mean?

00:26:21.119 --> 00:26:21.839
<v SPEAKER_04>Like regularly.

00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:24.480
<v SPEAKER_01>Do you do intermediate fasting?

00:26:24.559 --> 00:26:30.000
<v SPEAKER_04>Like uh I I mix purposely mix it up because people do intermittent fasting daily too much.

00:26:30.160 --> 00:26:30.559
<v SPEAKER_01>Uh-huh.

00:26:30.720 --> 00:26:33.519
<v SPEAKER_04>So, you know, I make sure I don't do too much of that.

00:26:33.759 --> 00:26:34.079
<v SPEAKER_04>Okay.

00:26:34.319 --> 00:26:37.200
<v SPEAKER_04>Um, but uh are you too busy to eat lunch?

00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:41.759
<v SPEAKER_04>Or yeah, I mean sometimes I probably my travel schedule screws me up here.

00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:42.400
<v SPEAKER_01>There you go.

00:26:42.559 --> 00:26:43.279
<v SPEAKER_04>Because I travel so much.

00:26:43.599 --> 00:26:44.799
<v SPEAKER_01>That is what we are seeing here.

00:26:45.039 --> 00:26:47.920
<v SPEAKER_01>And processed processed foods.

00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:49.519
<v SPEAKER_04>What kind of foods do you eat?

00:26:49.759 --> 00:26:51.200
<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah, no, I eat very, very healthy.

00:26:51.440 --> 00:26:52.319
<v SPEAKER_01>All right, that's great.

00:26:52.559 --> 00:27:01.279
<v SPEAKER_04>Then it seems like it's mainly still in the green, it's still better, but it's look it's assessing my you know, weaknesses regardless.

00:27:01.599 --> 00:27:06.880
<v SPEAKER_01>Yes, because you're performing so well, like if people can see your result, it's basically all green.

00:27:07.039 --> 00:27:11.440
<v SPEAKER_01>Like it's all green except for muscular system, where you just exercise.

00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:12.319
<v SPEAKER_01>That's the reason why.

00:27:12.480 --> 00:27:16.160
<v SPEAKER_01>So it's all being very good, which means you're performing very well.

00:27:16.240 --> 00:27:23.599
<v SPEAKER_01>I would say you are definitely in the top 10% of all of the test takers that we have done thousands and tens of thousands of the tests out there.

00:27:23.759 --> 00:27:28.079
<v SPEAKER_01>So, what has been like how does this test help you after you are taking it?

00:27:28.400 --> 00:27:29.920
<v SPEAKER_04>Well, I mean, like I said, right?

00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:36.319
<v SPEAKER_04>It it helped me because in the last year, my itises, um, I've noticed I never had tendinitises.

00:27:36.480 --> 00:27:39.359
<v SPEAKER_04>I never had patellotinitis, or at least it didn't last.

00:27:39.680 --> 00:27:39.920
<v SPEAKER_04>Right.

00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:43.680
<v SPEAKER_04>It's like if you got an injury, uh, it would just go away.

00:27:43.839 --> 00:27:44.160
<v SPEAKER_04>That's right.

00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:45.759
<v SPEAKER_04>Now I'm like, it's not going away.

00:27:46.000 --> 00:27:54.799
<v SPEAKER_04>Like, you know, every time I pick up a suitcase, I blame my wife for all of it, actually, because it was like every time I lifted a suitcase, it was like she packs these 80-pound bags.

00:27:54.960 --> 00:27:56.480
<v SPEAKER_04>I'm not kidding, 80-pound bags.

00:27:56.559 --> 00:27:57.759
<v SPEAKER_04>She's shaking her head over there.

00:27:57.839 --> 00:27:58.400
<v SPEAKER_04>She knows this.

00:27:58.559 --> 00:28:00.000
<v SPEAKER_04>And I would like to injure my shoulder.

00:28:00.319 --> 00:28:01.519
<v SPEAKER_04>Then it was like, that's how I injured.

00:28:01.759 --> 00:28:03.920
<v SPEAKER_04>It wasn't playing golf or tennis, unfortunately.

00:28:04.079 --> 00:28:05.759
<v SPEAKER_04>It was lifting my wife's suitcases.

00:28:05.920 --> 00:28:09.039
<v SPEAKER_04>Anyway, so it's like, but before it would heal, no problem.

00:28:09.119 --> 00:28:10.319
<v SPEAKER_04>Now I notice it wasn't.

00:28:10.720 --> 00:28:11.599
<v SPEAKER_04>That was what that showed.

00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:12.720
<v SPEAKER_01>Tissue regeneration.

00:28:13.039 --> 00:28:13.200
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

00:28:13.279 --> 00:28:18.640
<v SPEAKER_04>But how it helped me to answer your question is as I got more serious about the things it told me that might help.

00:28:18.720 --> 00:28:18.880
<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah.

00:28:19.119 --> 00:28:20.000
<v SPEAKER_01>And what to do next.

00:28:20.079 --> 00:28:20.240
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

00:28:20.400 --> 00:28:23.680
<v SPEAKER_01>Because we're seeing that BPC 157 is being recommended as a medication.

00:28:24.079 --> 00:28:25.839
<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah, so now I'm taking it like this.

00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:26.400
<v SPEAKER_01>Yes.

00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:29.119
<v SPEAKER_01>And it's able to be helping you muscular systems.

00:28:29.440 --> 00:28:30.720
<v SPEAKER_04>And that's a peptide, by the way.

00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:30.880
<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah.

00:28:31.119 --> 00:28:38.240
<v SPEAKER_01>It's a peptide that accelerates muscle healing, repair following injury, or exercising like due due to the injuries.

00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:47.119
<v SPEAKER_01>And it's also accessing, accelerating the healings of various tissues, including tendons, ligaments, which is what you're experiencing right now.

00:28:47.359 --> 00:28:49.680
<v SPEAKER_01>And it's having anti-inflammatory effects.

00:28:49.839 --> 00:28:53.119
<v SPEAKER_01>So we explain every single why we are recommending this to you.

00:28:53.440 --> 00:28:53.680
<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah.

00:28:53.759 --> 00:28:54.079
<v SPEAKER_04>Okay.

00:28:54.240 --> 00:28:56.240
<v SPEAKER_04>So when should I retest?

00:28:56.559 --> 00:29:02.960
<v SPEAKER_04>And if I do these things, right, what you know, can I make a difference in my result?

00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:04.960
<v SPEAKER_04>And that's, you know, that's what people are going to ask.

00:29:05.279 --> 00:29:05.519
<v SPEAKER_01>Yes.

00:29:05.680 --> 00:29:10.240
<v SPEAKER_01>We are seeing people are seeing dramatic effect within 90 days.

00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:15.200
<v SPEAKER_01>So we recommend people to do it even 90 days or 120 days.

00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:17.119
<v SPEAKER_04>Okay, so three months, six months.

00:29:17.440 --> 00:29:18.160
<v SPEAKER_01>Three months, six months.

00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:18.400
<v SPEAKER_01>Okay.

00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:24.160
<v SPEAKER_01>That's going to be the period of time that starting from now, you can do the protocol that we have recommended for you.

00:29:24.240 --> 00:29:26.640
<v SPEAKER_01>That's targeting your aging root cost.

00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:35.119
<v SPEAKER_01>And after this, we're seeing, for example, when people are doing therapeutic plasma exchange, their immune system age has been reversed by 11.4 years old.

00:29:35.359 --> 00:29:38.319
<v SPEAKER_04>So yeah, therapeutic plasma exchange kind of explained that.

00:29:38.400 --> 00:29:42.079
<v SPEAKER_04>It's, you know, literally exchanging all your plasma out.

00:29:42.160 --> 00:29:44.640
<v SPEAKER_04>They take your blood out and put like new blood in.

00:29:44.880 --> 00:29:59.039
<v SPEAKER_01>Yes, new albumin in, which is kind of like changing fish tank water, that you're removing all of the chronic inflammatory factors and cell cytokines out of your body, that's preventing your body from healing and cellular regeneration.

00:29:59.119 --> 00:29:59.279
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

00:29:59.440 --> 00:30:00.799
<v SPEAKER_01>So that's what we have been seeing.

00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:10.319
<v SPEAKER_01>And similar to that, after people are injecting stem cell, if you guys have been seeing Kim Kardashian and Kylie has been posting on Instagram that they recently got stem cell should be.

00:30:10.559 --> 00:30:16.960
<v SPEAKER_04>Raphael Gonzalez, he's my stem cell guy, which I've done natural killer cells from him and stem cells.

00:30:17.119 --> 00:30:17.440
<v SPEAKER_01>Yes.

00:30:17.680 --> 00:30:19.759
<v SPEAKER_04>And so it does, it makes a difference.

00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:27.680
<v SPEAKER_01>And we're seeing a 10.4 years old after reversal in brain age, 4.9 years old reversal in reproductive system age.

00:30:27.759 --> 00:30:33.359
<v SPEAKER_01>And this is all celebrity data that you guys know, but I can't say the name because it's HIPAA compliant.

00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:33.599
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:41.920
<v SPEAKER_01>So we are seeing a dramatic effect that people are able to be reversing their biological age according to the protocol that they have been choosing, according to the recommendations.

00:30:42.160 --> 00:30:46.559
<v SPEAKER_04>I was impressed with the protocol because uh other tests have done that, like give recommendations.

00:30:46.640 --> 00:30:50.000
<v SPEAKER_04>And it's always like eat more fruits and vegetables, exercise more.

00:30:50.079 --> 00:30:51.440
<v SPEAKER_04>It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.

00:30:51.519 --> 00:30:52.559
<v SPEAKER_04>Like I paid for that.

00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:56.480
<v SPEAKER_04>Your stuff was like, I mean, cutting edge the fact that they even mentioned peptides.

00:30:56.640 --> 00:31:04.720
<v SPEAKER_04>Like a lot of my wife's things, I put her on alpha, thymus and alpha one peptide, and it's an immune modulator.

00:31:04.880 --> 00:31:06.480
<v SPEAKER_04>And it's because of her result.

00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:09.759
<v SPEAKER_04>It was like, you know, so can't wait to redo her test too.

00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:10.400
<v SPEAKER_01>Exactly.

00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:23.200
<v SPEAKER_01>What we are, all of the results and the recommendation is built on an AI algorithm that we have built in-house, and it's all collecting the data from PubMed and Clinical Trial, which is the most cutting-edge data.

00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:34.640
<v SPEAKER_01>And on top of it, because we are partnering up with more than 300 clinics all around the world, mainly in the United States, with more than thousands of doctors, and they are telling us what they are doing right now.

00:31:34.720 --> 00:31:34.880
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

00:31:35.039 --> 00:31:40.720
<v SPEAKER_01>Some of them are doing methylene blue, some of them are doing peptides, stem cells, therapeutic plasma exchange.

00:31:40.799 --> 00:31:44.480
<v SPEAKER_01>So we're always having the most cutting edge protocols that you'll be able to do.

00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:45.359
<v SPEAKER_04>That's impressive, yeah.

00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:58.640
<v SPEAKER_04>You know, this company right now, um, it's really exciting because I I think it's um you are in the like top 1% maybe of companies, funded companies in the world right now, right?

00:31:58.960 --> 00:32:00.880
<v SPEAKER_04>I mean, that's that's a big deal.

00:32:01.039 --> 00:32:08.799
<v SPEAKER_04>So, meaning you have the attention of a lot of really important people and they're you know flooding money into this company.

00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:10.319
<v SPEAKER_04>I mean, how how did you get there?

00:32:10.400 --> 00:32:12.000
<v SPEAKER_04>What how did that happen?

00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:14.240
<v SPEAKER_01>Well, first thing is from investors.

00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:18.240
<v SPEAKER_04>And by the way, congratulations for you because you're under 30.

00:32:18.319 --> 00:32:21.680
<v SPEAKER_04>And to do that is like that, that is remarkable.

00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:22.240
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:32.079
<v SPEAKER_01>I mean, it doesn't really matter for what is the chronological age or the biological age is when you're doing something that's truly important that can impact billions of people.

00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:35.039
<v SPEAKER_01>And that's the reason why we started out Generation Lab.

00:32:35.359 --> 00:32:49.359
<v SPEAKER_01>And it was a big moment for me, even thinking back in a younger days, why I've gotten into this journey is because my grandfather was an entrepreneur and he passed away in his early 50s.

00:32:49.759 --> 00:32:52.640
<v SPEAKER_01>So I never got to actually meet him in person.

00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:59.599
<v SPEAKER_01>But I've always heard about the story that how much he has helped people with his business and the money that he has donated for the village.

00:32:59.920 --> 00:33:07.119
<v SPEAKER_01>I'm coming from a small village in the north of China, and that's how um I've been growing up from the story.

00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:08.720
<v SPEAKER_04>How long have you been in this country?

00:33:08.960 --> 00:33:09.359
<v SPEAKER_01>10 years.

00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:12.640
<v SPEAKER_01>So I moved to the United States when I'm 15 years old.

00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:22.319
<v SPEAKER_01>It's a one-way ticket that I bought here because I really want to smart create something that's able to be helping the entire humanity with the limit of time that I have.

00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:22.799
<v SPEAKER_03>Yeah.

00:33:23.039 --> 00:33:28.880
<v SPEAKER_01>So very fun thing that I did when I was very young is that I started to calculate my death state.

00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:31.680
<v SPEAKER_01>Because I know I realize that everyone is gonna die.

00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:36.559
<v SPEAKER_01>And now everyone approximately is getting 30,000 days in their life.

00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:38.240
<v SPEAKER_01>That means you're 30,000 days.

00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:39.440
<v SPEAKER_01>30,000 days for an hour.

00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:41.839
<v SPEAKER_04>83 years old.

00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:44.720
<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah, that's a that's a sad number, actually, in reality.

00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:44.960
<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah.

00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:45.359
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:52.720
<v SPEAKER_01>And surprisingly, the date that I have left is only 9,865 days till today.

00:33:52.880 --> 00:34:00.960
<v SPEAKER_01>Like that's how much day that I have left, reducing all of the time that I'm gonna sleep and also the time that I have passed.

00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:06.240
<v SPEAKER_01>So yes, I am like 20 something, but I only have 9,000 days left.

00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:08.719
<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah, when you look at it that way, you live them differently, don't you?

00:34:08.960 --> 00:34:10.159
<v SPEAKER_01>Yes, very differently.

00:34:10.400 --> 00:34:16.079
<v SPEAKER_01>So that's when I also decided I started my first company when I was in UC Berkeley.

00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:18.239
<v SPEAKER_01>Uh it's also a medical device company.

00:34:18.400 --> 00:34:24.880
<v SPEAKER_01>And after that, I went to Harvard to do my PhD with full scholarship with George Church and David Sinclair.

00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:32.880
<v SPEAKER_01>And after that, I decided to drop out because I see there's so many breakthrough technologies in the lab, but there's nothing and you did that to to for this.

00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:35.360
<v SPEAKER_04>You just said, screw it, go, let's move on.

00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:36.480
<v SPEAKER_04>We got something here.

00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:38.079
<v SPEAKER_01>We have a limited amount of time.

00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:39.599
<v SPEAKER_01>Like the clock is ticking.

00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:42.400
<v SPEAKER_01>I don't have time to waste any seconds of my life.

00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:46.320
<v SPEAKER_01>That I need to create something that's truly valuable for people so they can actually use it.

00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:52.079
<v SPEAKER_04>I mean, but I mean, to get the amount of money that you all brought in and you know, be in that top 1% like that.

00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:54.559
<v SPEAKER_04>I mean, how did I mean how did that happen though?

00:34:54.719 --> 00:34:56.639
<v SPEAKER_04>I mean, that that's like that's extraordinary.

00:34:56.880 --> 00:35:02.000
<v SPEAKER_01>It's a combination of science, business, and the team that we are seeing.

00:35:02.159 --> 00:35:09.920
<v SPEAKER_01>So from science, think about what Excel as the top firm investment firm has been investing.

00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:16.000
<v SPEAKER_01>Facebook, Stripe, Slack, Bumbo, it's all category-defining companies.

00:35:16.239 --> 00:35:18.400
<v SPEAKER_04>I was stunned at how until Dr.

00:35:18.480 --> 00:35:20.159
<v SPEAKER_04>Katie brought me this, I didn't hear of it.

00:35:20.239 --> 00:35:21.440
<v SPEAKER_04>So this is really early on.

00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:22.800
<v SPEAKER_01>This is very, very neat.

00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:26.320
<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah, but like all that, all that big money, it's not early on for them.

00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:26.960
<v SPEAKER_04>They heard of it.

00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:29.119
<v SPEAKER_04>But I'm in my space, I'm just shocked.

00:35:29.199 --> 00:35:31.360
<v SPEAKER_04>I bring it up to people and they're like, they never heard of it.

00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:32.239
<v SPEAKER_01>So they will.

00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:33.039
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, exactly.

00:35:33.119 --> 00:35:34.239
<v SPEAKER_04>That's why I'm doing this, honestly.

00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:36.320
<v SPEAKER_04>I think it's really, really amazing.

00:35:36.719 --> 00:35:37.280
<v SPEAKER_04>It's very exciting.

00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:38.000
<v SPEAKER_04>Technology.

00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:42.000
<v SPEAKER_04>And I've I've been following this, I've been touching my cellular age for many, many years.

00:35:42.480 --> 00:35:46.239
<v SPEAKER_04>And I I have to say, this is you know, by far above and beyond.

00:35:46.639 --> 00:35:47.760
<v SPEAKER_01>This is the golden standard.

00:35:48.159 --> 00:35:48.639
<v SPEAKER_01>That's it.

00:35:48.880 --> 00:35:57.119
<v SPEAKER_01>And for Excel, the reason why they backed us is because they believe that we are going to be defining this industry as the golden standard.

00:35:57.199 --> 00:35:59.679
<v SPEAKER_01>That how does people measure their biological age?

00:35:59.840 --> 00:36:00.320
<v SPEAKER_01>How do they train?

00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:02.719
<v SPEAKER_04>And I think this is gonna impact insurance companies.

00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:04.719
<v SPEAKER_04>This is gonna impact you know everything.

00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:08.960
<v SPEAKER_04>Um, it it really is, it's it's absolutely a game changer and all that.

00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:09.679
<v SPEAKER_04>So, Dr.

00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:12.719
<v SPEAKER_04>Arena, um, she was your professor?

00:36:12.960 --> 00:36:14.480
<v SPEAKER_01>Yes, she was my professor before.

00:36:14.719 --> 00:36:15.599
<v SPEAKER_04>At Harvard or Berkeley?

00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:16.159
<v SPEAKER_04>Berkeley.

00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:16.800
<v SPEAKER_04>Berkeley.

00:36:16.960 --> 00:36:19.199
<v SPEAKER_04>And okay, so tell us her role.

00:36:19.280 --> 00:36:20.800
<v SPEAKER_04>I mean, she's the brains behind this.

00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:22.639
<v SPEAKER_04>Give me a little bit about her background.

00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:23.599
<v SPEAKER_04>How did she do this?

00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:23.920
<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah.

00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:27.840
<v SPEAKER_04>Because this is like, I mean, what gave her the ability to figure this out?

00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:28.400
<v SPEAKER_04>Totally.

00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:34.559
<v SPEAKER_01>So if you have heard about blood exchange about 20 years ago, starting from 2005.

00:36:35.039 --> 00:36:39.599
<v SPEAKER_04>You know, I remember early on they they took two rats, an old one and a young one.

00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:42.159
<v SPEAKER_04>They sewed them together, connecting their blood supply.

00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:43.199
<v SPEAKER_01>And that's her work.

00:36:43.360 --> 00:36:43.760
<v SPEAKER_01>First time.

00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:44.480
<v SPEAKER_01>Is that her work?

00:36:44.639 --> 00:36:45.119
<v SPEAKER_01>That's her work.

00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:46.960
<v SPEAKER_01>She is the inventor of that work.

00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:47.519
<v SPEAKER_04>Okay, yeah.

00:36:47.599 --> 00:36:48.880
<v SPEAKER_04>And the old rat got younger.

00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:49.440
<v SPEAKER_01>Exactly.

00:36:49.599 --> 00:36:52.719
<v SPEAKER_04>But here's the crazy thing the the young rat did start to develop.

00:36:53.199 --> 00:36:53.360
<v SPEAKER_04>Older.

00:36:53.679 --> 00:36:53.760
<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah.

00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:54.079
<v SPEAKER_04>Yes.

00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:54.719
<v SPEAKER_04>Exactly.

00:36:55.039 --> 00:36:58.639
<v SPEAKER_01>So she is the author of that paper, the developer of that technology.

00:36:58.960 --> 00:37:00.000
<v SPEAKER_04>I want her blood.

00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:04.960
<v SPEAKER_01>And it's the first time that we discovered that aging is reversible.

00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:13.280
<v SPEAKER_01>So she is called the mother of aging of longevity, because she literally pioneered the entire field that aging is reversible.

00:37:13.599 --> 00:37:15.119
<v SPEAKER_01>But how do we measure it?

00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:16.719
<v SPEAKER_01>Because aging is not a disease.

00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:18.480
<v SPEAKER_01>We can measure diabetes now.

00:37:18.719 --> 00:37:20.320
<v SPEAKER_04>But aging can be a disease.

00:37:20.559 --> 00:37:21.760
<v SPEAKER_04>Yes, aging can be a disease.

00:37:21.840 --> 00:37:23.679
<v SPEAKER_01>It's actually a root cause of every single disease.

00:37:24.239 --> 00:37:30.480
<v SPEAKER_04>Remember, when you look at every root cause of all the worst diseases, whether it be cancer, heart disease, all the top killers, it is aging.

00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:31.119
<v SPEAKER_04>It is aging.

00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:32.639
<v SPEAKER_04>Is the at least the predictor.

00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:33.039
<v SPEAKER_04>Yes.

00:37:33.119 --> 00:37:33.199
<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah.

00:37:33.360 --> 00:37:39.519
<v SPEAKER_01>And it's crazy that no one is directly addressing that, but just addressing the symptom that's happening after.

00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:47.280
<v SPEAKER_01>It's kind of like when people are throwing eggs on top of the like a very high place.

00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:50.800
<v SPEAKER_01>People are just trying to catch the egg as people are throwing down.

00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:52.960
<v SPEAKER_01>Why don't we just tell that person stop throwing eggs?

00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:53.840
<v SPEAKER_01>Stop throwing eggs.

00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:55.760
<v SPEAKER_01>Just stop doing it.

00:37:55.920 --> 00:38:03.440
<v SPEAKER_01>And that's when we realize that okay, there is a way for us to reverse the biological age, not only on mice, but actually on human.

00:38:03.679 --> 00:38:05.519
<v SPEAKER_01>But how do we quantify it?

00:38:05.679 --> 00:38:11.519
<v SPEAKER_01>Because there's so many things out there that's claiming that they can reverse your age or make you become younger, young again.

00:38:11.760 --> 00:38:12.800
<v SPEAKER_04>Now it's measurable.

00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:14.159
<v SPEAKER_01>Now it's measurable.

00:38:14.320 --> 00:38:19.199
<v SPEAKER_01>And without the measurement tool, we're never able to be developing every longevity therapeutic.

00:38:19.679 --> 00:38:21.519
<v SPEAKER_04>From her some of her original work, right?

00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:22.239
<v SPEAKER_04>The blood, right?

00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:33.280
<v SPEAKER_04>And figuring out that there's certain uh proteins and factors that keep the body healing and recovering and young people and this and that, and sharing that, those factors with an older rat, right?

00:38:33.599 --> 00:38:36.559
<v SPEAKER_04>How did she end up figuring out this technology?

00:38:36.800 --> 00:38:37.199
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:51.840
<v SPEAKER_01>So that's the root cause of where everything started out from 2020, that people after doing plasma exchange started out from Peter Teo and Brian Johnson with their son.

00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:55.119
<v SPEAKER_04>So Brian Johnson is a billionaire who claims.

00:38:55.199 --> 00:38:58.960
<v SPEAKER_04>I mean, his goal is to live 180 years old or something like that.

00:38:59.039 --> 00:38:59.280
<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah.

00:38:59.519 --> 00:39:02.079
<v SPEAKER_04>And um, he has the money and the ability to do anything.

00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:03.599
<v SPEAKER_04>Uh, did he take this?

00:39:03.920 --> 00:39:08.159
<v SPEAKER_01>Um, can't claim, but he did the plasma exchange.

00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:19.599
<v SPEAKER_01>And after that, people have been approaching us in Berkeley Academic Lab, Comboy Lab, that named after her, saying that can you tell how much he got younger or older?

00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:23.920
<v SPEAKER_01>And there's multiple blood samples that we are doing after people are doing different therapies.

00:39:24.159 --> 00:39:33.199
<v SPEAKER_01>But the interesting thing is they're asking us from the lab to tell them what is their biological age based on their chronological age.

00:39:33.360 --> 00:39:40.480
<v SPEAKER_01>Like basically, it's a necessary input that you have to have in order to have a biological age prediction.

00:39:40.639 --> 00:39:48.800
<v SPEAKER_01>And Irina was thinking about if there's actually a way to measure your biological age, why do you have to have a chronological age as an input?

00:39:48.960 --> 00:39:49.920
<v SPEAKER_01>It doesn't make sense.

00:39:50.320 --> 00:39:55.840
<v SPEAKER_01>And that's where the paper is coming out that we need to have a true measurement to like a waste delt.

00:39:56.239 --> 00:39:59.679
<v SPEAKER_04>Did she start she obviously knew a lot about telomere?

00:39:59.920 --> 00:40:03.440
<v SPEAKER_04>Um, she obviously knew about some of these other DNA methylation tests.

00:40:04.159 --> 00:40:10.559
<v SPEAKER_04>So, how did she take you know that technology and what did she do to make this technology so much better?

00:40:10.960 --> 00:40:22.960
<v SPEAKER_01>First is what she proved is all of the tests out there is basically nonsense because they're predicting your biological age based on a thing that's not even relevant to your biology.

00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:25.840
<v SPEAKER_04>So they were using more of an algorithm?

00:40:26.079 --> 00:40:35.199
<v SPEAKER_04>Algorithm and mathematical predictions instead of actually looking more directly at what switches are on and off.

00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:35.920
<v SPEAKER_01>Exactly.

00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:36.559
<v SPEAKER_04>Got it.

00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:37.119
<v SPEAKER_01>Yes.

00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:42.639
<v SPEAKER_01>So it's a difference between a predictor tool versus your weight scale in your bathroom.

00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:47.920
<v SPEAKER_04>It should be something that as soon as you're I can predict your weight by looking at you, but it's still a prediction.

00:40:48.079 --> 00:40:48.320
<v SPEAKER_01>Yes.

00:40:48.480 --> 00:40:52.239
<v SPEAKER_04>It's pretty accurate, maybe, but I can actually put you on a scale and get more accurate.

00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:58.639
<v SPEAKER_01>And we can tell which part of our body exactly is creating that noise, which is faster or slower.

00:40:58.800 --> 00:41:05.280
<v SPEAKER_01>And it's a much more accurate way to see things, thus you can reverse it in a more effective way.

00:41:05.840 --> 00:41:06.000
<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah.

00:41:06.239 --> 00:41:10.000
<v SPEAKER_04>Is there anything that um throws the accuracy off?

00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:17.039
<v SPEAKER_04>Well, like you said, I mean, my muscle came out because I exercised, but what shouldn't people do before they take the test?

00:41:17.519 --> 00:41:24.320
<v SPEAKER_01>So what we are seeing is if people are traveling a lot, they're going through a jet leg that will be impacting the test result.

00:41:24.480 --> 00:41:29.920
<v SPEAKER_01>Similar to that, if you're exercising right before you're doing the test, you're doing that.

00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:37.599
<v SPEAKER_01>And we recommend to do at least two hours of fasting before you are doing the test because your metabolism will be impacting.

00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:39.760
<v SPEAKER_04>What could throw off the test, right?

00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:42.800
<v SPEAKER_04>Because I I when people get it, I I want them to hear from you.

00:41:42.960 --> 00:41:46.800
<v SPEAKER_04>I mean, so meaning if you're drinking a lot the night before, is that going to throw off the test?

00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:49.119
<v SPEAKER_01>That won't, but don't do that.

00:41:49.360 --> 00:41:58.880
<v SPEAKER_01>If you're creating a baseline as a before and after, then baseline can be like your worst state because you will be able to reverse it and you'll be able to improve it.

00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:03.840
<v SPEAKER_01>So we'll be seeing how much you have improved within 90 days or 120 days.

00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:12.960
<v SPEAKER_01>And you can see that you can actually control your biological aging speed and how much you are being able to reverse is truly dependent on you rather than a doctor.

00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:16.639
<v SPEAKER_04>Be careful with don't do it when you just got done traveling or in jet lag.

00:42:16.719 --> 00:42:21.119
<v SPEAKER_04>Don't do it after a big exercise or anything, and maybe even any stress, emotional stress.

00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:21.760
<v SPEAKER_04>It's that well.

00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:25.360
<v SPEAKER_04>You don't want to create extra noise, you want to get an accurate baseline.

00:42:25.599 --> 00:42:25.920
<v SPEAKER_04>Got it.

00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:26.880
<v SPEAKER_04>Okay, we got it.

00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:35.760
<v SPEAKER_04>I I think a big question is is like, you know, you kind of said it, but you know, what's really made you and got you into this, right?

00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:36.880
<v SPEAKER_04>Why are you doing this?

00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:38.480
<v SPEAKER_04>And what is your ultimate goal?

00:42:38.559 --> 00:42:40.719
<v SPEAKER_04>Where do what do you want to see come out of this even?

00:42:40.880 --> 00:42:41.039
<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah.

00:42:41.440 --> 00:43:03.920
<v SPEAKER_01>So as we are realizing everyone who is on the earth is only having 30,000 days and this clock is always ticking, unless there's someone that can fix this thing that making every single life on earth that's able to be living healthier time in a longer standpoint, then everyone is still playing a limited amount of time games.

00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:10.480
<v SPEAKER_01>And we're losing our loved ones, we're losing our families, we're losing people constantly in our life.

00:43:10.800 --> 00:43:11.519
<v SPEAKER_04>Unnecessarily.

00:43:11.760 --> 00:43:12.400
<v SPEAKER_01>Unnecessarily.

00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:17.679
<v SPEAKER_01>And because that we're not detecting things early enough, and this is purely preventable.

00:43:17.840 --> 00:43:18.000
<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah.

00:43:18.320 --> 00:43:19.360
<v SPEAKER_01>That's what we are seeing.

00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:22.480
<v SPEAKER_01>One is to detect things earlier than it's supposed to be happening.

00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:22.880
<v SPEAKER_03>Yeah.

00:43:23.039 --> 00:43:27.360
<v SPEAKER_01>And second is we should create a therapeutics that's targeting longevity.

00:43:27.599 --> 00:43:32.000
<v SPEAKER_01>And that's actually what we are spinning out as the second product very soon in generation lab.

00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:33.039
<v SPEAKER_04>What is it?

00:43:33.280 --> 00:43:34.000
<v SPEAKER_04>What is the product?

00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:38.320
<v SPEAKER_01>Which is turning the entire plasma exchange process into a shot.

00:43:38.639 --> 00:43:38.960
<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah.

00:43:39.119 --> 00:43:39.679
<v SPEAKER_04>Oh, wow.

00:43:39.840 --> 00:43:40.719
<v SPEAKER_04>Like that simple.

00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:42.079
<v SPEAKER_04>Yes, that's simple.

00:43:42.320 --> 00:43:44.400
<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah, this see, this is exciting stuff.

00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:44.719
<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah.

00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:46.800
<v SPEAKER_04>And I I want to be at the forefront of all of it.

00:43:46.960 --> 00:43:52.480
<v SPEAKER_04>You know, I always say that if you can't measure something, then you don't have people's attention.

00:43:52.559 --> 00:43:59.599
<v SPEAKER_04>You know, it's like um, meaning if people can't see themselves aging, then they don't tend to do something about.

00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:03.519
<v SPEAKER_04>It right because they look at themselves in the mirror and they see themselves every day.

00:44:03.679 --> 00:44:05.840
<v SPEAKER_04>They don't see themselves aging, right?

00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:08.400
<v SPEAKER_04>It's like they don't see themselves the way other people see them.

00:44:08.639 --> 00:44:10.639
<v SPEAKER_01>It's a process that everyone is going through.

00:44:10.880 --> 00:44:11.679
<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah, exactly.

00:44:11.840 --> 00:44:13.920
<v SPEAKER_04>But this allows you to actually see it.

00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:16.880
<v SPEAKER_04>And if you see it, then it will create an action.

00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:18.079
<v SPEAKER_04>Here's the analogy.

00:44:18.239 --> 00:44:20.960
<v SPEAKER_04>I go to dinner with people in our space, right?

00:44:21.119 --> 00:44:23.039
<v SPEAKER_04>And I watch them drink tap water.

00:44:23.199 --> 00:44:26.480
<v SPEAKER_04>And these are people that are in our space, healthy people, right?

00:44:26.639 --> 00:44:38.239
<v SPEAKER_04>And I always say, if I could prove to you that there were estrogens, hormones, you know, in all the toxins and show you right now what was in that water and you saw this, would you drink it?

00:44:38.400 --> 00:44:39.280
<v SPEAKER_04>They said, absolutely not.

00:44:39.360 --> 00:44:41.280
<v SPEAKER_04>But I'm like, well, I it's in there.

00:44:41.679 --> 00:44:42.079
<v SPEAKER_04>It's in there.

00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:45.039
<v SPEAKER_04>But if I had a test and goes, look how many heavy metals are in there.

00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:46.800
<v SPEAKER_04>People would go, yeah, I don't want the water.

00:44:46.880 --> 00:44:47.119
<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah.

00:44:47.280 --> 00:44:50.719
<v SPEAKER_04>But because you can't see it, you don't make an action step to not do it.

00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:54.800
<v SPEAKER_04>This test allows us to see what the heck's going on inside of us.

00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:56.000
<v SPEAKER_04>And I believe you're right.

00:44:56.079 --> 00:44:59.360
<v SPEAKER_04>I think it's going to drive people to action to actually do something about it.

00:44:59.599 --> 00:44:59.920
<v SPEAKER_01>Totally.

00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:03.440
<v SPEAKER_01>If you can see it, you can control it and you can act on it.

00:45:03.599 --> 00:45:06.559
<v SPEAKER_01>It's not a defined destiny when it comes to your health.

00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:09.599
<v SPEAKER_01>Your health is in your hand, that you are the one who is.

00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:11.920
<v SPEAKER_04>It's going to make people do it something.

00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:12.960
<v SPEAKER_04>So that's a great goal.

00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:13.440
<v SPEAKER_04>All right.

00:45:13.599 --> 00:45:18.800
<v SPEAKER_04>So this is this is going to be fun because now you're going to get to look at my wife's.

00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:19.199
<v SPEAKER_04>Okay.

00:45:19.360 --> 00:45:21.199
<v SPEAKER_04>So my wife was six years.

00:45:21.920 --> 00:45:25.360
<v SPEAKER_04>And um, so what's what's good and bad about my wife's?

00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:26.079
<v SPEAKER_01>Okay.

00:45:26.400 --> 00:45:29.760
<v SPEAKER_01>So it seems like your wife is also doing pretty well.

00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:41.679
<v SPEAKER_01>The rate of aging is 0.9, which is normally it's one, but she is 0.9, which is optimal range for the age group that she is in right now.

00:45:41.840 --> 00:45:45.280
<v SPEAKER_04>And this seems like it's she was like 6.2 years.

00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:50.880
<v SPEAKER_01>She is 4.5.7 years younger than her calendar age.

00:45:51.119 --> 00:45:51.599
<v SPEAKER_04>We were close.

00:45:51.760 --> 00:45:52.239
<v SPEAKER_04>We were close.

00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:53.599
<v SPEAKER_01>Very close.

00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:56.719
<v SPEAKER_01>She is actually way better than you.

00:45:56.880 --> 00:46:00.079
<v SPEAKER_01>She has a lot of blues, which is much younger.

00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:01.519
<v SPEAKER_01>But I hate that.

00:46:02.079 --> 00:46:02.639
<v SPEAKER_01>Let's see.

00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:04.800
<v SPEAKER_01>What is her best systems in her body?

00:46:05.119 --> 00:46:07.760
<v SPEAKER_04>I think it was her um her brain was one of the ones.

00:46:08.000 --> 00:46:09.119
<v SPEAKER_04>And that's where I was really jealous.

00:46:09.199 --> 00:46:09.360
<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah.

00:46:09.599 --> 00:46:11.840
<v SPEAKER_01>Digestive is also very good one.

00:46:12.079 --> 00:46:16.400
<v SPEAKER_01>Oncogenesis, whatever that you guys are doing, it's preventing you guys from getting cancer.

00:46:16.639 --> 00:46:17.679
<v SPEAKER_01>It's a very good thing.

00:46:17.840 --> 00:46:20.159
<v SPEAKER_01>I'm sure that eating great food is helping.

00:46:20.320 --> 00:46:21.840
<v SPEAKER_01>She has very young heart.

00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:24.079
<v SPEAKER_01>Metabolism is also very good.

00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:25.760
<v SPEAKER_04>No doubt.

00:46:26.000 --> 00:46:29.280
<v SPEAKER_01>But the core aging risks that she is having her lungs.

00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:30.079
<v SPEAKER_01>Is her lungs.

00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:31.360
<v SPEAKER_04>And she wondered why.

00:46:31.519 --> 00:46:31.840
<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah.

00:46:32.000 --> 00:46:32.960
<v SPEAKER_04>It's like, yeah, so.

00:46:33.280 --> 00:46:35.360
<v SPEAKER_01>Did she spend a long time in space?

00:46:35.840 --> 00:46:36.239
<v SPEAKER_04>No, no, no.

00:46:36.320 --> 00:46:37.039
<v SPEAKER_04>I figured this out.

00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:37.920
<v SPEAKER_04>I figured this out.

00:46:38.159 --> 00:46:41.119
<v SPEAKER_04>My wife is the worst shallow breather.

00:46:41.360 --> 00:46:53.519
<v SPEAKER_04>And it's like, and I what I had found out, I interviewed a guy, John Dillard, and he was like, some women after pregnancy, the you know, like the baby pushes up and their diaphragm is stays up.

00:46:53.679 --> 00:46:53.840
<v SPEAKER_03>Yes.

00:46:54.159 --> 00:46:54.719
<v SPEAKER_04>That's my wife.

00:46:54.880 --> 00:46:56.639
<v SPEAKER_04>I will listen to her gasp for air.

00:46:56.719 --> 00:47:00.159
<v SPEAKER_04>Like she'll be sitting there, and I hear, I'm like, like, I look, I'm like, oh my gosh, your guess.

00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:01.519
<v SPEAKER_04>She shallow breathes.

00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:05.679
<v SPEAKER_04>It's like, so now I have her doing these breathing things.

00:47:05.840 --> 00:47:07.360
<v SPEAKER_04>That's why her lungs showed up.

00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:09.199
<v SPEAKER_04>She is the shallowest breather.

00:47:09.440 --> 00:47:15.199
<v SPEAKER_04>So that's the only thing I can think because she she doesn't have any pathology outside of her being a very, very shallow breather.

00:47:15.280 --> 00:47:15.840
<v SPEAKER_04>Could that be it?

00:47:16.079 --> 00:47:16.800
<v SPEAKER_04>Yes, definitely.

00:47:16.960 --> 00:47:23.360
<v SPEAKER_01>Because we are seeing women, especially after their pregnancy, their biological age is getting way older than themselves.

00:47:23.760 --> 00:47:26.000
<v SPEAKER_01>But we are seeing people are able to be reversing it.

00:47:26.320 --> 00:47:36.559
<v SPEAKER_01>But yes, it's a great thing that she realized that and the test is showing exactly what her lifestyle is and how she is acting based on the test.

00:47:36.719 --> 00:47:38.239
<v SPEAKER_01>So whatever that you're doing.

00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:40.159
<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah, it's working.

00:47:40.239 --> 00:47:46.480
<v SPEAKER_04>But my wife's funny because she's the she's the one that always thinks there's something wrong and there never is, right?

00:47:46.559 --> 00:47:48.320
<v SPEAKER_04>Meaning like she doesn't ever get sick.

00:47:48.639 --> 00:47:51.760
<v SPEAKER_04>Like she got she got COVID and never had a symptom.

00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:56.159
<v SPEAKER_04>Like she uh she lost her sense of smell for a little bit, but she never had a symptom.

00:47:56.320 --> 00:47:58.800
<v SPEAKER_04>You know, I was you know, in bed for three days.

00:47:58.960 --> 00:47:59.840
<v SPEAKER_04>She never had a system.

00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:01.599
<v SPEAKER_04>Like she doesn't get sick, she's amazing.

00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:03.840
<v SPEAKER_01>Well, she also has a very strong immune system.

00:48:04.000 --> 00:48:04.320
<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah.

00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:06.239
<v SPEAKER_01>I assume that's why.

00:48:06.480 --> 00:48:11.119
<v SPEAKER_04>So some more fun questions is like, what is the best test you've ever seen?

00:48:11.360 --> 00:48:16.719
<v SPEAKER_01>Well, the best test that I've ever seen is a actually an investor's test.

00:48:16.880 --> 00:48:20.559
<v SPEAKER_01>And he was an athlete who run long marathon.

00:48:20.719 --> 00:48:25.280
<v SPEAKER_01>All of the markers that we are seeing, like this graph that you're seeing, is all blue.

00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:25.599
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

00:48:25.760 --> 00:48:26.639
<v SPEAKER_04>It's like all blue.

00:48:26.880 --> 00:48:27.360
<v SPEAKER_04>All blue.

00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:27.599
<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah.

00:48:27.760 --> 00:48:31.760
<v SPEAKER_04>Blue is the green is great, but blue is like you're gonna live forever.

00:48:32.320 --> 00:48:32.719
<v SPEAKER_01>Optimal.

00:48:32.800 --> 00:48:33.119
<v SPEAKER_01>Yes.

00:48:33.360 --> 00:48:34.880
<v SPEAKER_01>It's it's crazy good.

00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:35.360
<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah.

00:48:35.519 --> 00:48:37.360
<v SPEAKER_01>And his result is all blue.

00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:46.800
<v SPEAKER_01>And we can literally see that he is about 60 years old chronologically, but biologically, he performs like a very young athlete.

00:48:46.960 --> 00:48:48.719
<v SPEAKER_01>Like he thinks very brilliantly.

00:48:48.880 --> 00:48:52.719
<v SPEAKER_01>And he is the um early investor, the first investor off Canva.

00:48:52.880 --> 00:48:54.800
<v SPEAKER_01>Now it's becoming a billion-dollar company.

00:48:54.880 --> 00:48:57.519
<v SPEAKER_01>So he thinks very fast, he acts very fast.

00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:00.559
<v SPEAKER_01>That's a very good result that that I've been seeing.

00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:01.679
<v SPEAKER_04>Man, yeah.

00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:04.000
<v SPEAKER_04>Every girl out there wants to meet this guy.

00:49:04.079 --> 00:49:05.199
<v SPEAKER_04>He's gonna live for forever.

00:49:05.280 --> 00:49:07.280
<v SPEAKER_04>He's gonna have no health problems, and he's a billionaire.

00:49:07.360 --> 00:49:08.480
<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah, this is really wonderful.

00:49:08.719 --> 00:49:16.400
<v SPEAKER_01>Both you and your wife is also having a very good reproductive system stage, which means if you guys want kiss, it's easier.

00:49:16.880 --> 00:49:19.039
<v SPEAKER_04>God knows my time in.

00:49:19.280 --> 00:49:20.960
<v SPEAKER_04>It's very easy for you guys to have kiss.

00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:26.079
<v SPEAKER_04>Well, but I'll tell her that if she wants to have a child, she knows she's in menopause successfully.

00:49:26.239 --> 00:49:27.440
<v SPEAKER_04>No hormones, no nothing.

00:49:27.519 --> 00:49:28.480
<v SPEAKER_04>So she is very healthy.

00:49:28.719 --> 00:49:29.760
<v SPEAKER_04>You are doing a great job.

00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:30.239
<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah.

00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:34.400
<v SPEAKER_04>Okay, another fun question is um, what's the worst test you've ever no?

00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:34.960
<v SPEAKER_04>I'm kidding.

00:49:35.039 --> 00:49:37.840
<v SPEAKER_04>Um, well, you've probably seen some really bad tests, but that's not fun.

00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:38.400
<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah.

00:49:38.559 --> 00:49:42.559
<v SPEAKER_04>Um, but uh the other fun question, I had another one in my head.

00:49:42.639 --> 00:49:43.039
<v SPEAKER_04>Hold on.

00:49:43.199 --> 00:49:46.480
<v SPEAKER_04>It was um, oh, the the best system.

00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:50.079
<v SPEAKER_04>Like if you had to choose, like measure how many systems does it measure?

00:49:50.239 --> 00:49:50.639
<v SPEAKER_01>19.

00:49:50.800 --> 00:49:50.960
<v SPEAKER_01>Okay.

00:49:51.119 --> 00:49:53.760
<v SPEAKER_04>Out of all the 19, what is the best one?

00:49:53.840 --> 00:49:54.320
<v SPEAKER_04>Do you think?

00:49:54.480 --> 00:50:01.519
<v SPEAKER_01>It's personal, maybe, but for me, it's really inflammation because chronic inflammation is the root cause of aging.

00:50:01.840 --> 00:50:02.159
<v SPEAKER_04>I agree.

00:50:02.239 --> 00:50:02.880
<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah, mine was good.

00:50:02.960 --> 00:50:03.760
<v SPEAKER_04>Mine was a top three.

00:50:04.079 --> 00:50:04.719
<v SPEAKER_04>Yours is very good.

00:50:04.880 --> 00:50:06.480
<v SPEAKER_01>You yours is definitely a top three.

00:50:06.559 --> 00:50:11.679
<v SPEAKER_01>And chronic inflammation is definitely the root cause of every single aging, and it's very hard to get rid of.

00:50:11.840 --> 00:50:18.559
<v SPEAKER_01>Now people are doing blood exchange in order to get the chronic inflammation out, and there is drugs that's targeting chronic inflammation.

00:50:18.639 --> 00:50:20.400
<v SPEAKER_01>So that is the core cause.

00:50:20.559 --> 00:50:27.199
<v SPEAKER_01>If I'm picking top three, it's gonna be inflammation, immune system, and it's either cardiac or brain.

00:50:27.440 --> 00:50:28.719
<v SPEAKER_04>I yeah, I think I had those three.

00:50:29.199 --> 00:50:30.559
<v SPEAKER_04>You had those three in the brain slides.

00:50:30.880 --> 00:50:32.000
<v SPEAKER_04>But I had I had cardio.

00:50:32.079 --> 00:50:32.239
<v SPEAKER_04>Yes.

00:50:32.400 --> 00:50:33.840
<v SPEAKER_04>I had cardio, I had those three.

00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:35.440
<v SPEAKER_04>So maybe I'm better than my wife.

00:50:35.599 --> 00:50:35.760
<v SPEAKER_04>Okay.

00:50:36.239 --> 00:50:40.239
<v SPEAKER_01>And these are the core systems that, if any of these are breaking down.

00:50:40.400 --> 00:50:45.760
<v SPEAKER_01>Like we're seeing people with a younger brain or younger immune system.

00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:50.000
<v SPEAKER_01>When these two are dramatically decreased, they're living longer and healthier.

00:50:50.159 --> 00:50:53.599
<v SPEAKER_01>If these two are dramatically increase, they're dying faster.

00:50:53.840 --> 00:50:54.000
<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah.

00:50:54.079 --> 00:50:54.320
<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah.

00:50:54.400 --> 00:51:00.000
<v SPEAKER_04>So yeah, you mentioned like I I kind of wanted you to expand on that anti-aging drug that's coming.

00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:02.320
<v SPEAKER_04>You know, it's is it something natural?

00:51:02.480 --> 00:51:03.119
<v SPEAKER_04>Is it a drug?

00:51:03.199 --> 00:51:03.840
<v SPEAKER_04>How does it work?

00:51:03.920 --> 00:51:06.079
<v SPEAKER_04>And how long till we have something like this?

00:51:06.239 --> 00:51:06.400
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

00:51:06.559 --> 00:51:10.079
<v SPEAKER_04>And you say it's going to impact these epigenetic switches like crazy.

00:51:10.320 --> 00:51:10.639
<v SPEAKER_01>Yes.

00:51:10.800 --> 00:51:13.760
<v SPEAKER_01>And it's not a gene therapy, it's natural.

00:51:14.000 --> 00:51:15.679
<v SPEAKER_01>Things that's already in your body.

00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:20.800
<v SPEAKER_01>And it's also already being used in a lot of clinics.

00:51:20.960 --> 00:51:22.000
<v SPEAKER_01>And that will be launched.

00:51:22.239 --> 00:51:22.960
<v SPEAKER_04>Is there a name for this?

00:51:23.119 --> 00:51:24.079
<v SPEAKER_04>Are we allowed to say?

00:51:24.239 --> 00:51:24.639
<v SPEAKER_01>Not yet.

00:51:24.880 --> 00:51:25.119
<v SPEAKER_04>Okay.

00:51:25.280 --> 00:51:25.519
<v SPEAKER_04>All right.

00:51:25.599 --> 00:51:26.400
<v SPEAKER_04>But it's being used.

00:51:26.639 --> 00:51:28.719
<v SPEAKER_01>But it will be launched within uh a year.

00:51:28.880 --> 00:51:31.119
<v SPEAKER_01>So it will be coming out in 2026.

00:51:31.280 --> 00:51:33.199
<v SPEAKER_01>We're very excited for this drug is being launched.

00:51:33.679 --> 00:51:34.400
<v SPEAKER_04>Is it affordable?

00:51:34.639 --> 00:51:35.360
<v SPEAKER_01>It is affordable.

00:51:35.519 --> 00:51:36.000
<v SPEAKER_04>Oh wow.

00:51:36.159 --> 00:51:36.320
<v SPEAKER_01>Yes.

00:51:36.639 --> 00:51:40.960
<v SPEAKER_01>And you, as a doctor, will be able to be prescribing this to a lot of users.

00:51:41.119 --> 00:51:45.760
<v SPEAKER_01>We're seeing this drug will be the next higher impact drug even compared to GLP1.

00:51:46.000 --> 00:51:47.199
<v SPEAKER_04>Will you will you come back?

00:51:47.280 --> 00:51:49.679
<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah, I hate GLP1, but that's okay.

00:51:49.840 --> 00:51:51.440
<v SPEAKER_04>Um, what do you think about it?

00:51:51.599 --> 00:51:52.960
<v SPEAKER_04>I mean, because I GLP one?

00:51:53.119 --> 00:51:53.199
<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah.

00:51:53.280 --> 00:51:53.519
<v SPEAKER_04>Uh-huh.

00:51:53.679 --> 00:51:54.719
<v SPEAKER_01>Well, my dad is taking it.

00:51:54.800 --> 00:51:54.960
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

00:51:55.119 --> 00:51:59.599
<v SPEAKER_04>For I mean, I I think for diabetes certain conditions, it's absolutely applicable.

00:51:59.679 --> 00:52:08.960
<v SPEAKER_04>But the what I don't like about it is uh average people are taking it to lose weight and they're losing the wrong weight oftentimes and they can't come off of it too much.

00:52:09.119 --> 00:52:09.360
<v SPEAKER_04>Exactly.

00:52:09.599 --> 00:52:10.719
<v SPEAKER_04>So that's what I don't like about it.

00:52:11.119 --> 00:52:17.440
<v SPEAKER_01>That's why if you just want to lose weight, okay, use GLP1 if you really cannot do exercise.

00:52:17.679 --> 00:52:29.840
<v SPEAKER_01>But if you want to use it for an anti-aging purpose or try to be healthier and live longer, then do the test first to understand whether metabolism is the reason why you're not like having a better biological age.

00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:34.559
<v SPEAKER_01>If it's your brain or your inflammation, then GLP1 couldn't Yeah.

00:52:34.639 --> 00:52:38.800
<v SPEAKER_04>And I mean, and the test is going to show you what's again more of the cause.

00:52:38.960 --> 00:52:39.199
<v SPEAKER_04>Yes.

00:52:39.360 --> 00:52:43.599
<v SPEAKER_04>And focusing on that instead of just taking this thing that is causing other issues.

00:52:43.840 --> 00:52:45.840
<v SPEAKER_04>Oh gosh, what was I asking right before that?

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<v SPEAKER_04>Uh it was such a good thing.

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<v SPEAKER_01>No, mitochondria and skin is the two other functions that we're having on the test.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah, okay.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So there will be more and more functions that we're adding into.

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<v SPEAKER_04>So what does that mean though?

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<v SPEAKER_04>Like mitochondria and the skin?

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<v SPEAKER_04>Like, so you're adding those.

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<v SPEAKER_04>So we're gonna be able to look at our mitochondria health, which is our energy production.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Yes, and then we're at the skin age.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Oh, that's gonna be a big one.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Exactly.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, that's because everyone knows that there's wrinkle that's already formed on your face.

00:53:13.119 --> 00:53:18.719
<v SPEAKER_01>But even before the wrinkle is forming, we can tell what is the age of your skin.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Thus, you can start to prevent these wrinkles from forming by looking at what is the collagen level that has been boosted.

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<v SPEAKER_04>So you're gonna be looking at these switches on your collagen.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Exactly.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Saying, hey, there's a lot of noise here.

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<v SPEAKER_04>You're about ready to start aging on your skin.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And there is a way that we can tell how much your skin age has been reversed by what lifestyle have you been changed, what supplement or food or different skin's skin creams that you have been used, how is it actually impacting your biological age towards your skin?

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<v SPEAKER_01>So that's something that we're very excited to launch.

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<v SPEAKER_04>All right, Alina, will you come back on when that is released?

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<v SPEAKER_04>The uh the the anti-aging medication that's gonna move the needle because we're gonna hear it here first.

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<v SPEAKER_04>So I can't wait for that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We're very excited.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah, and and you know, I I I think we'll have Dr.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Kate and my wife on that show.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Awesome.

00:54:10.800 --> 00:54:14.559
<v SPEAKER_04>Because I want two women on that show, and we're gonna like just have at it, it'll be great.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Yes.

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<v SPEAKER_04>All right, well, thank you.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Thank you for being here.

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<v SPEAKER_04>What a show.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Listen, like and share.

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<v SPEAKER_04>People want to hear this information.

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<v SPEAKER_04>Listen, it's not just a number, as you heard.

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<v SPEAKER_04>This is about something that makes us literally change the way we do things, which is gonna change our health in general, not just our biological age.

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<v SPEAKER_04>But yeah, that's awesome.

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<v SPEAKER_04>So, what a goal it is.

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