The CRAZIEST Hollywood Stories Ever Told on ALL THE SMOKE

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Speaker 1: This is it.

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Speaker 2: I know you gotta be kidding me.

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Speaker 3: Holy, this is a mashal conscience shoot from the big camera.

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Speaker 4: I probably would have been in the movie a lot more if I wouldn't.

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Speaker 5: Love Those are the best sloppy seconds I've ever had in my godden damn.

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Speaker 6: Like, that's another Tuesday.

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Speaker 7: You know, you can't place stuff. He was like, God, he whispers in my ear. Now that's actings.

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Speaker 8: Welcome, Jamie Fox. What was it like working with Leo? To me, one of the most underrated actors of our generation, What was it like being able to team up with him on that?

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Speaker 9: First of all, that that's the homie man.

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Speaker 10: A lot of people don't know like Leo is like a real, real dude, And you know, you don't have to I don't. I don't validate nobody just because they enter the culture.

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Speaker 2: But like Leo stood in line.

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Speaker 10: For the big album back in the day, his best friend is you know, that's a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that that's why.

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Speaker 10: That's why in Wolf of Wall Street when he popped like it, that's really him, that mother fucker, Like he really.

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Speaker 1: On the ship.

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Speaker 11: The motherfucker.

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Speaker 2: He does this thing.

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Speaker 10: Oh man, all the way and the cold part about it was, you know, he knows the.

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Speaker 2: Whole all the scenario.

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Speaker 10: Here we go, Yo, one day, I'm gonna get that motherfucker to do that shit.

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Speaker 6: But he's a real dude.

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Speaker 10: And when he came onto the set when we first did the readthrough, he had problems with the word nigga though, because he was saying and he said, Paula, I can't I can't say this.

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Speaker 6: I just can't do it.

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Speaker 10: And then Satuiel Jackson goes, hey, motherfucker, it's that's another Tuesday. Fuck these niggas.

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Speaker 6: Say that ship, motherfucker said.

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Speaker 10: I was like, so he had to really wrap hisself into that character. And at one point I said, I pulled him to this. I said, Leo, listen, I ain't your friend right now. We back in the day, and if he was back in the day, they would they would kill you hanging out with me talking to me face to face.

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Speaker 1: So you gotta let that shit go.

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Speaker 11: Man.

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Speaker 10: The next day, that motherfucker came into the set and I said, what's up, Leo, Leo, what's up?

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Speaker 9: What's up?

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Speaker 2: Just speak to me when they say action.

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Speaker 10: Motherfucker went in his bag and that's one of the that's one of the coldest performances. You check that performance out and he talks about the performance. I won't I won't say some of the private stuff that he talked about.

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Speaker 9: I won't say.

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Speaker 1: Who it is.

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Speaker 9: But there was this black guy.

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Speaker 10: When he grew up, he used to hang out with and so he mimicked that character for.

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Speaker 11: For for that movie.

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Speaker 10: Man so powerful, motherfucker.

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Speaker 9: Man when he came up to the when.

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Speaker 10: Him and Samuel finally came onto the set, Man, the motherfucker's walking in slow motion with their baps and ship man. Real Hollywood stars, all stars, imagine an all star Samuel Leo. I mean, the motherfucker was going at and so that's why that movie did what it did.

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Speaker 9: Man, we want to welcome Snoop.

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Speaker 12: Chance to move over to your film career. You got a lot of movies. You play yourself a lot bit you and a lot of movies. Starts getting Hudged, which is one of my favorite movies. I laugh at that shit.

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Speaker 13: So you know that nigga, that nigga really hit me in real life and starts getting hutch. I'm gonna take you to the scene. It was the golf course scene, me and Vince Vaughn. So when we were rehearsing, we rehearsing in the scene, it says, well, Vince is gonna say a line and then snoops character hugey bear is gonna interrupt him, and Vince's gonna say, hey, don't you interrupt me? So okay, me and the director Todd Fellers will get an understanding. So it's time to shoot. So now we don't set so nigga like an action, the nigga saying his lines. I'm already and doing my shit. The nigga says something. I'm like, hey, man, that nigga said he slapped the dog shit out of me. No way, nigga, my mama, he slapped the dog shit out of me. So the nigga and me was finn of punch him, right. But the actor in me, I sold it, you sold it. The action in me was like, and I shrugged it off and I went to my next line and I did that ship and I killed your nigga, and they was like cutting. Everybody started clapping and the nigga, Vince Vaughn, hugged me tight as motherfucker said, Man, don't don't kill me.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 13: I just felt the urge man, just feel like I said you to urge you dog here, motherfucking you slapped the ship out of me, because that's what happens when you're on the set of a movie and you're working with real actors. Ship like that just happened. I said, I don't want to be no more real actors. Put me with some niggas, man cleping Hard and some motherfucking body.

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Speaker 8: But what's it like to like I said, so you're transitioning from the streets to a global superstar and then now you're fucking around now you in movies like tell me, what's what's going through your mind during this time?

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Speaker 13: Matt, You know what's crazy because I always from church, my aunt Dad's mama, my Auntie Ellen, and Church. She used to always put us in place. She used to always put us in theatrical ship where we have to either play characters or memorized lines or be somebody famous for black history. Benjamin Banneker, James Washington Carver, all kinds of motherfuckers that we had, Frederick Duncat's. We had to do research on these people. Then we have to become them and we have to act like them. We have to present that. Then when I went to school, I did like certain things in school that certain classes that I took that would give me the opportunity to give a little bit of that. Then when I became a rapper, rappers had personality. When I came out, all of them, it was never a dead dull rapper. Niggas couldn't just.

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Speaker 9: Be yeah, hey, y ain't yeah yeah.

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Speaker 13: Niggas had personality. Look, they had style, they had all that shit that was like flamboyant, like you know what I'm saying, like that shit. So it's like when I got a chance to act, I was like, I never went to act in school, but I'm not gonna blow the opportunity. And my reputation is And you can ask anybody that's ever worked with me on the movie set is Snoop Dogg sit this set and he knows your lines, your lines, your lines, and his lines, and the motherfucker is flawless. I just did a movie with Eddie Murphy, nigga, and I ain't bragging. I'm just giving you some facts.

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Speaker 9: Nigga.

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Speaker 13: When we first hit the set, this is the first day, nigga say action true, My niggas say hold on, let me one more time, action one more time, my damn snoop Dogg. You got a nigga rattled. Damn niggas, I'm supposed to be rattled by you. You understand me. Boom, knock it out the park. Whoop the woo wo woop. Come back to the thing, like, nigga, you a professional nigga the way you and to me, I ain't did nothing but just what I'm supposed to do. What to an onlooker, and the motherfucker's been doing this shit for a long time. The way I do it with ease and the way I get it done, It's like, Nigga, this is what you meant to do. Like certain niggas on the b ball court, they just gifted. Like some niggas got to practice and shouldn't all this lifting weights and all this extra shittness. Some niggas just like, we'll lift you doing right there.

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Speaker 9: That's the dunk.

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Speaker 13: On a nigga. Some niggas just got to do more than others, you know what I'm saying. And then some niggas just naturally got it, man Like it's just like that, Like I look at y'all the niggas that made it to the NBA. Right, how many motherfuckers didn't make it? That was better than y'all.

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Speaker 12: I know a lot of my partners made most of them in jail. They were way colder me.

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Speaker 13: That's what I'm saying is just a matter of the way. You did it at.

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Speaker 9: Ease, and I had the favor, but you did it at ease too.

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Speaker 13: The favor gonna give it to you, but you still got to do it at ease because if you do it reckless, then you're gonna lose favor.

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Speaker 9: Yeah. I almost fucked it off a couple of times.

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Speaker 13: We all almost did it.

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Speaker 9: We're sitting right here, nigga.

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Speaker 13: We perfect combination.

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Speaker 8: What was the best acting experience ords people you got to work with?

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Speaker 9: You felt? Was it?

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Speaker 8: You just spoke on what was that? Probably coming to America too? You was talking about no dolamite. Okay, Okay, that's all the mic.

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Speaker 13: But the people that I had the great experience of working with. One of them was Fred Williamson. That's the hammer played in Super Bowl one. Played at Super Bowl one. He was a start She and Hush too.

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Speaker 9: He was the lieutenant.

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Speaker 13: But he told me because I had a long conversation with him, and I was like, fred, I really want to start doing this acting thing. Heavy, What should I you know, do it? What should I request or whatnot? Because I just want to be good at what I do. He said, look here, young man, let me tell you something. When I started making movies, it was three things that had to happen. Well, I wouldn't fuck with the movie. Got to win all my fights. I got to win all my fights. That's number one. Got to fuck all the pretty girls.

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Speaker 9: I'm gonna get you suck. That's what's number two. And I got to live.

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Speaker 13: All three of them. Things got to happen in the movie for me to be in them. And I looked at every movie this nigga was in and it's the same, and nigga beating up niggas from the beginning, fucking the bad bitch in the middle, and that nigga lives at the end and in that time in the area. But just listen to me in that time and are in real life nigga would get beat up, We're gonna take your bitch, and you're dead by the end.

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Speaker 9: Of the movie.

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Speaker 13: These are three things that's happening to you. Black actors, get that part in your head. So somebody had to create a stigma of hold on, we wanna see some superheroes that look like us. That's what the super Fly and the Shafts and the Black Dynamites and the Dolomites, that's where they come from. Because it had to be somebody that set the trend on. You're not gonna do me like that. I'm not gonna be in it. So that's why when I got to a certain point of doing movie, I pulled back from Hollywood because they always wanted to kill a nigga. They wanted me to die in the movie. The last movie I died in. Me and John Singleton had to understand and it was like, look, I really don't want to die in no more movies cause because I just don't like the spirit of that ship.

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Speaker 9: I like to live.

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Speaker 13: He was like, nigga, the way you're gonna die in this movie, nigga, you're gonna live forever.

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Speaker 8: The one and only man. He named three big names that I kind of want to touch on real quick. First, Will Ferrell.

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Speaker 2: What was with the funniest guy?

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Speaker 9: Please tell me how how hard was it to get Will Ferrell?

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Speaker 14: Will Ferrell is the funniest He may be the funniest person on two feet.

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Speaker 15: I'm talking naturally.

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Speaker 6: I'm talking.

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Speaker 14: No, I'm talking, I'm talking showing up from from showing up to work to going home. Nicest guy in the world, but I'm talking. I'm talking a different gear, a different gear with funny. There's nobody, nobody close, no nobody close. He will would show up like everything was a bit. So you you gotta figure out that he's in a bit. Like when you show up at work.

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Speaker 16: He's like, morning, you eat breakfast?

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Speaker 2: All right? I'm like, no, I ain't breakfast. Why not don't I didn't. I didn't want breakfast.

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Speaker 9: You gotta eat breakfast?

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Speaker 2: No, I don't.

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Speaker 9: I don't want to.

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Speaker 15: Not if I want to, you gotta like you know, I'm talking regular.

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Speaker 14: He's in a bit, though, He's just gonna see how long I go back and forth. He went on with this breakfast conversation. He's like, I'm not gonna start till you get something. I'm like, what, you gotta put something on your stomachach, I'm not gonna start working with you t put something your stomach because you're not gonna be your best breakfast.

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Speaker 6: He starts fucking.

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Speaker 1: Greg Wait cast some record.

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Speaker 15: Loading up, like, load him up, load bring this fucking plate.

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Speaker 14: This guy like everything everything on it, pancakes Old Mill.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, get in there.

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Speaker 17: He's fucking funny man.

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Speaker 14: There's nobody, nobody close, nobody close to nobody close.

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Speaker 8: The rock I love your Guys' is dynamic because there's just such a big physical difference. But you guys play off that so well and everything you do.

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Speaker 14: DJ DJ is a a talented guy, and we we get along so well because we find similarities in how we approach the craft, right like we have a mutual respect and understanding for where we've come from, where we are now and when we when we met, DJ was having crazy international success. I was having crazy domestic success, right, So his his his road to becoming that international movie star. It was it was clear like he was on his way on the domestic side.

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Speaker 16: I was crushing.

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Speaker 15: So we we met.

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Speaker 14: I think we met it like a It was an MTV Movie Awards. We met backstage and we talked and he was, dude, we gotta figure it out, we gotta do something together, and we were We were true to that.

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Speaker 15: We try to figure it out.

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Speaker 14: And the reason why because we wanted those two things to combine, and that's what Central Intelligence was about. Central Intelligence was about us coming together and trying to find a comedy that could take us over the water internationally while fulfilling the need for comedy domestically, because at the.

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Speaker 15: Time, you know, comedy was low key. It was low key dying. Like you know, if you if you go look back at that.

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Speaker 14: Tom frame and comedy there there weren't a lot of successful comedies. Uh, you had Wallberg's movies with Farrell that were crushing, you know, you had Me and Hackers movies that we were doing, and you know, the hangovers that came.

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Speaker 15: A couple of times far few and in between were questioned.

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Speaker 14: But the attempt for comedy from so many others it was it wasn't doing well so international. They didn't think that it could translate, especially if you had, like, you know, people of color in it.

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Speaker 15: So our reason for doing that was to show that we're on.

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Speaker 14: The opposite side of that conversation that we could very much do it. Central Intelligence ended up being our reason for continuing relationship. We had a great time filming it, crazy success, and then we went on and kept it going.

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Speaker 8: Welcome to the show, Will Smith, Will appreciate.

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Speaker 7: One of the best things that ever happened to me in terms of acting was James Avery.

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Speaker 9: That was a cold scene. Yeah, James Avery.

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Speaker 7: He was like, nothing was good enough. He was like, Nope, you have too much talent for that. Nope, more nope. And it was like, I'm doing movies and I'm trying to you know, And it was like he made sure that I understood my responsibility to hone my craft as a gift to the world.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 7: He was like, Nope, you're you're you've been You've been gifted too much to play with it, right, And he just kept pushing me.

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Speaker 2: He kept pushing me.

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Speaker 7: He watched everything I did, he commented, he would give me notes on everything, and you.

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Speaker 9: Know, yeah, I talked.

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Speaker 7: I talked about that in the book too, that the the father scene. The father scene was the first time and uh, you know, we had the mom and we were doing the scene and you know, I was, I was blowing my lines. I couldn't get it together. And at the end of that father see James A is hugging me and he whispers, he whispers in my ear. Now that's acting, right, And.

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Speaker 9: I want to jump in front of you. Real quick.

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Speaker 8: You guys had every beautiful woman that was going to be something come through that show.

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Speaker 9: How did that happen? Listen? Every single one came through that show.

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Speaker 11: Listen, it's too much power for one night.

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Speaker 2: That man.

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Speaker 8: Everybody I looked when you when you catch the three runs these days, just say, yo.

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Speaker 9: She was on there. Yeah, and it's like it wasn't on.

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Speaker 7: It wasn't like on purpose, but it was like it's the hot show and it's you know, one of the handful of black shows on and so everybody was unbelievable was coming through on on Fresh Prince. It was it was thank god I was married in my life for sure, ruined my life for sure.

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Speaker 9: If I wasn't married.

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Speaker 2: I knew that.

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Speaker 9: I knew that young too. I knew that young too. That each episode all.

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Speaker 7: Over pla, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, my bad.

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Speaker 2: Oh man.

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Speaker 7: Bring my father My father was. My father was hardcore and I had done something.

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Speaker 18: Uh.

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Speaker 7: He gave me the great the greatest quote, and he was he was furious. I was had girls at work and stuff like that, and he just screamed at me, keep your dick out in people's money.

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Speaker 9: That's a bar. That's a bar. I was like, for real, yo, I kind of touched my soul ship.

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Speaker 7: That's daddy, Yo, Daddy keptn I'm just thinking right now, I know a couple of buthers need to hear that.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I changed it for my kids.

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Speaker 9: It was the right idea. I tell my kids, no fishing off the company. Pier.

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Speaker 12: Did you know what you was doing for the culture doing the Fresh Prince when you were showing up with the Fresh JS?

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Speaker 11: No, I know you didn't.

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Speaker 2: No idea.

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Speaker 7: It's like I was, I was living the culture right.

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Speaker 9: You were the.

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Speaker 2: Culture right Yo?

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Speaker 1: At that time.

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Speaker 2: I was.

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Speaker 7: I was literally calling Jordan's and I was like, Mike, please, please don't give it to nobody, Like, just let me be the first person. I gotta be the first person to work. He was like, man, I don't run that.

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Speaker 4: He was.

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Speaker 9: Sure had.

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Speaker 7: The fours were the Fresh Princes. They called the Forest the Fresh Princess, the fives.

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Speaker 12: Now they did that.

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Speaker 9: I haven't seen it on Fresh Fresh Prince five. Wow, it's four pair. That's crazy. Welcome to the show, risen Man. We appreciate you, thank you, thank you, thanks.

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Speaker 8: But I wanted to know what it was it like working with Denzel and Russell Crowe an American gangster.

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Speaker 19: And I was super cool working with Denzel.

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Speaker 9: First of all.

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Speaker 19: First of all, if anybody could intimidate you as an actor, is Denzel washing? If it was a microphone or some hip hop whatever, whatever, I would have busted to the side as a as a.

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Speaker 2: I would say, as a.

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Speaker 19: Young man trying to be an actor against one of the greatest living actors in the world, I never felt I thought he didn't like.

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Speaker 8: Me, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 6: I thought, like, got do my Denzael story.

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Speaker 2: You'll edit it anyway, You're good.

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Speaker 9: All.

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Speaker 2: So y'all.

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Speaker 19: First, they're like, you know he's on you know first, were on set three weeks before him because they shot the movie that way, right, And so I'm cool with everybody.

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Speaker 9: Now Denzel comes.

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Speaker 19: To set and somebody come up here on my trailer.

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Speaker 2: Hey you want to meet Denzel?

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Speaker 19: I say, hey, yo, Chell, Yeah, like, you know what I mean, I'm a big fan of Denzel. So they take me over to his trailer and they knock and you don't open the door, and knock again. You don't open the door. They go, oh, oh okay, we'll bring you back. So they take me back to my trailer thirty minutes later, same thing, and now it's the end of the end of my day.

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Speaker 2: I'm about to leave.

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Speaker 19: I got my car waiting, and I'm like, let me just say peace to.

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Speaker 9: Me before I go, and it don't happens. Answer.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 19: Finally, there's a scene in the movie that wasn't written with my character and his character. There was no interaction to my character and his character written in the movie, right. But Russell had insisted that this is the scene where we interrogate him.

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Speaker 2: This is the crew that brought him down.

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Speaker 19: The police would all be there on his ass because this is the team that did it, and he want the whole team there. But it wasn't written. And so Denzel comes to the to the set and he kind of sees it and it's like it wasn't what it was written. So he walks away, right, And so I'm like, and I'm so self conscious everything that's going wrong, I'm blaming myself, right because of like I think at that time, Sam Jackson had an article out with Hodge Rappers doing roles, right, and so I'm like, nobody wants me here.

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Speaker 16: So then we do the scene and he doesn't really.

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Speaker 19: Smile, and you know, doesn't even like you know, really kind of like didn't acknowledge me. And I was just like, you know, finished the saying.

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Speaker 16: I just went back to my trail.

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Speaker 20: I was like, a man, it's crazy, right.

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Speaker 9: And then there was.

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Speaker 19: The premiere and I'm on the line walking, got my wife and somebody comes from behind and give me.

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Speaker 9: The biggest hug and it's Denseil and so.

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Speaker 19: I had a chance to say, yo, why like why do you ain't smile at me or not say yo?

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Speaker 13: You a cop?

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Speaker 2: I was Frank.

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Speaker 9: Lucas fuckers in character the whole movie.

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Speaker 6: I was Frank Lucas. I ain't give two cents about you.

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Speaker 2: I was like, that's a master.

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Speaker 12: My brother t Ip in the buildings, Welcome Dollard.

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Speaker 9: Smoke, my loves great, appreciate you.

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Speaker 12: Oh seven American Gangster with Denzel What that's like? What was that like?

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Speaker 9: Big school That was Big Schools your big boy parands.

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Speaker 21: Yeah yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: That was Big school Man. That was.

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Speaker 4: In Timid Dan. In Timid Dan, like like kind of like damn me, you sure.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Russell Crowe Rizzle uh directed by Richley Scott, same Gladiator for real, Denzel Common uh cheue a tale, Ruby d.

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Speaker 9: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: So many legendary Cuba Good and Jr. So many legendary actors and actresses that that were called upon, and I was included. I was a little overwhelmed. I ain't gonna cap you down. I remember I remember the first well, the scene that I was supposed to be doing with Denzel where were sitting outside in the yard. I want to be like you, uncle Frank. Yeah, we'll actually well they cut from me, like catching a baby something like that, and I sit down and we go through it like a little rehearsal. And then you know why, they setting up the cameras and shit, I'm pacing back and forth, you know what I mean. I'm like talking to myself and shit. And then they'll say, hey, what's up, nigga? You nervous? I say, sh man, kind of bruh. Jer don't wanna just just just don't wanna fuck it up. Just don't wanna fuck it.

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Speaker 9: Up for real?

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Speaker 4: She say fuck it up. He said, hey, listen, let me tell you something. Look around. They coulda had anybody do what you doing right now. They coulda put anybody in this position. They coulda put anybody right here, couldn't they?

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Speaker 9: I said, yeah?

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Speaker 4: He said, they chose you, didn't he? I said yeah. He said do you know why? Do you know why they chose you? I said yeah, I think so. He said, okay, well, if you know why they chose you, get your ask.

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Speaker 1: Anything and do that.

00:24:53
Speaker 4: You ain't got nothing to be nervous about it. And so, you know, after that, we went in there and did the sh you know, did the scene, and I think we one took it. I think it was like one take and a safety you know what I mean. But he really really spoke, man, He spoke life into meat at the time. Because for him to even look at me out of the eye, and you know what I'm saying, respect my craft enough and respect you know me enough as an actor especially, this was one of a lot of you know, a lot of a lot of formal or should I say, first trade actors were looking at rappers who get movies kind of like oh, you know what I mean. So for him to even take the time to pour into me and give me some game right then, that took me a long way.

00:25:46
Speaker 12: How hard you know you've been in comedy now, how hard were you laughing, gonna say it with Will Ferrell and Kevin Hart bro.

00:25:55
Speaker 9: I couldn't keep it straight, faith.

00:25:57
Speaker 4: Man, all Lie, I couldn't.

00:25:58
Speaker 2: Keep it straight.

00:25:58
Speaker 9: Faith.

00:25:59
Speaker 4: I probably would have been a the movie a lot more if I wouldn't last and.

00:26:02
Speaker 9: The camera's on me so much. You know what I'm saying.

00:26:05
Speaker 4: Uh, Man, you can't Kevin Hord funny.

00:26:08
Speaker 2: He can't.

00:26:08
Speaker 4: He can't not be.

00:26:09
Speaker 2: Funny, right, you know what I mean?

00:26:11
Speaker 4: And we'll fair same thing.

00:26:13
Speaker 9: Man.

00:26:13
Speaker 4: You get these motherfuckers together, that ship was just hilarious. It was a lot of shit that they did on days. I wasn't there. I saw the movie. I was like, God, damn, what the fuck? But you know, pushing the limits is where you know what I'm saying. That what made comedy, That's what makes it great. But that was the phenomenal opportunity that that Kevin Hord pretty much man, he pretty much ushered me into that. You know what I mean?

00:26:38
Speaker 12: Uh?

00:26:39
Speaker 4: He said, Man, this guy, this guy right here, this is you all day. I just need you to come and be you. That's it.

00:26:48
Speaker 9: Welcome to the show. Charlie Sheen heard.

00:26:55
Speaker 12: Ricky wild Thing vond one of the great sports movies. Movie characters ever, thank you. Can we talk about the wild Thing?

00:27:05
Speaker 9: Yeah?

00:27:05
Speaker 12: How was it playing the wild Thing? And how did you get into character to play in with the baseball background?

00:27:13
Speaker 22: Yeah?

00:27:13
Speaker 2: Well, I.

00:27:15
Speaker 23: The script was amazing. I mean, the script was it was just you just shoot everything that's on the page, you know. It was it was David Ward directed it, wrote it. He won the Oscar for the Sting when he was like twenty two. Really smart, really really funny, really good dude, a huge baseball fan. You can always tell how much someone knows about the game they're writing about on the page, you know. And yeah, I had one meeting with him and and he was like, well, you you pitched in high school. I'm like yeah, And that was only you know, four years ago, right, five years right? Yeah? And he said, can you give me something that I can because we didn't have computers back then. We had to just use clever editing, you know. I said, well, you can film me. You can film me in a full wind up that that that I guarantee. But I you know, I can't throw ninety eight or one hundred or I'd be doing it for a living. But I can probably get you somewhere in the mid eighties.

00:28:17
Speaker 9: It's still good, not bad, you know.

00:28:21
Speaker 23: So I did a bunch of steroids, right, and uh, because I was only throwing like seventy six at the time, and I had this trainer. This guy was a running back at BUYU and he had a he knew a guy that could get the steroids. And so we're at golds jam and pump, yeah man, and and put literally put ten miles per hour on my freaking.

00:28:40
Speaker 9: Really yeah, how long? How much time?

00:28:42
Speaker 23: With six weeks?

00:28:44
Speaker 1: Holy?

00:28:44
Speaker 9: Yeah? Man?

00:28:46
Speaker 23: Wow, I mean I was a little nutty during the thing, you know, but it was a character though.

00:28:52
Speaker 9: Juice.

00:28:52
Speaker 23: Yeah, but I didn't continue juicing throughout the movie because they brought in a dude named Marty Cove. You know who that is. He's the he's the best, He's he runs on on Cobra Kaine, you know, Karate Kid. He's the he's the other sense at the Evil Dojo.

00:29:14
Speaker 9: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:29:16
Speaker 23: They brought him into audition for Dorn for Corman Burns in the third Base Bank, and uh, I was still, you know, doing the jabs. He was a little bit kind of into whatever wherever his headspace was. And in a bar one night he and I almost got in a fight with like fifteen dudes, and I'm not. I don't get in the fight with one dude.

00:29:42
Speaker 9: He's not.

00:29:43
Speaker 23: That's just not my thing. But Marty kind of was leading the charge that night, and then ward got back to the production and then like literally later on that afternoon, Cormyn Burnson is just walking up, yeah, and he's like, hey, good to see you.

00:29:59
Speaker 9: So he was terrific. He was terrific. Yeah, he killed.

00:30:04
Speaker 23: Yeah, he was great. But so yeah, the thing that was difficult about Major League is that I didn't have the the luxury of a like, you know, four or five days between starts, and I would throw some nights one hundred and fifty hundred and sixty pitches just low oh man, yeah, just all the different coverage, all the different pieces, and then the next day I have to come back and throw eighty five or one hundred more. And it was just like, care, Yeah, can we have scheduled?

00:30:39
Speaker 9: Can I get a day off? Thank you?

00:30:41
Speaker 23: But they can only have the stadium the specific.

00:30:44
Speaker 9: Amount of times. But that what stadium was that.

00:30:47
Speaker 23: That was in Milwaukee, Yeah, so would that have been Miller, would have been that been County?

00:30:54
Speaker 9: I think Miller is new or right, So it was probably the older ones, right, was it County County Stadium?

00:30:59
Speaker 2: But there was.

00:30:59
Speaker 23: One scene where they literally had like thirty two thousand people in the stands. Whoa, you know, I mean it wasn't sold out, but the way they filmed it when when when we run out, I didn't run out, but when the team runs out and you could you could feel it. I mean it was like, whoa, yeah, I love it. But when I come out of the bullpen for that, you know that classic moment. It was like three in the morning. There was like sixty people left. Everybody's falling asleep. It was yeah, there was. They had cutouts of people like right on the edge of frame. They like squeezing everybody in.

00:31:37
Speaker 9: It was a trip and watching now and check that out.

00:31:40
Speaker 23: I don't think anybody walked out any relief picture walked out to a song prior to that didn't mean.

00:31:50
Speaker 9: You set with that. I think that translated.

00:31:53
Speaker 23: So it is it is such a just to see that that then becomes a part of the game. And then I'm watching I watch a lot.

00:32:00
Speaker 12: Of baseball baseball. Have you have you heard of banana baseball?

00:32:04
Speaker 23: I have, indeed yeah, yeah, those guys are all about it, aren't they.

00:32:08
Speaker 2: Damn.

00:32:10
Speaker 9: But just.

00:32:12
Speaker 23: If you just any game, any game, no matter who's playing, at some point someone's going to quote something from Major question. A guy throws one of the backstop and then one of the announcers.

00:32:26
Speaker 8: Going to say, just a bit outside also speak about because it went from Willie Mays Hayes to what you m call it?

00:32:32
Speaker 9: To Omar to Omar good, excuse me to Omar. Yeah, so when was that switch that was after the second one?

00:32:39
Speaker 23: That was for the second Okay, yeah, everybody came back except Wesley.

00:32:44
Speaker 9: What was do you know? I think he was blatant by then. Yeah. He was fast.

00:32:49
Speaker 23: He was fast.

00:32:52
Speaker 9: He he cahoop too. Remember from White Man Can't Jump?

00:32:55
Speaker 1: He could, he could.

00:32:55
Speaker 23: He could mimic things, okay, because he never played. But he did something though, that is really really hard to achieve. He could hit a pop up like at will because he has to pop up once in spring training and another time during a game. During the game he does this the push ups again, right, and trying to teach somebody to hit the bottom of the baseball. That's that's like not easy because intuitively you want to hit the center of the baseball right, But no, he was terrific, And if they brought the dude in, I just I couldn't get my mind around. Well, no, just pretend it's the same guy. And I was like, but isn't that kind of aren't we told.

00:33:44
Speaker 9: All black people don't look the same?

00:33:46
Speaker 23: No, it was, it was, and this is nineteen ninety four, But still I wasn't down with it. I thought it would have been better for the story. Also if he's just something happened to him, or he you know, got arrested in a foreign country and he couldn't make it back, or something just more creative. And then then just another dude shows up and you know, we have to go out and find a new center fielder, right, rather than what they landed.

00:34:17
Speaker 9: On right right?

00:34:18
Speaker 2: You know?

00:34:19
Speaker 9: Interesting?

00:34:20
Speaker 23: But no, it Major League is a career highlight for me and is just a gift that keeps giving. There was a time when I would go to baseball games in any state in the country and buy a shitty ticket and just get get inside the stadium. And then it was just the first security guard He's like, oh, what are you doing way up here? And then suddenly I'm down into the thing. And then after the game like kind of start wandering the hallways, you know, like you see the signs to the clubhouse and then they're like, hey, what are you doing here?

00:34:52
Speaker 9: And then and then.

00:34:54
Speaker 23: And then you're in with the players. Yeah, it was like it was a backstage pass to Major League Baseball, all access paths and it was that was cool. That was some fantasy shit. No, that was in the script.

00:35:09
Speaker 9: The script.

00:35:10
Speaker 23: Yeah, yeah, everything was on the page, which is like mind blowing that David just saw all of this stuff.

00:35:18
Speaker 9: You know. Welcome to the show, Ryan coueger Man, thank you for your dying bro having.

00:35:24
Speaker 8: Yeah, Sinners different, different.

00:35:29
Speaker 9: I didn't know what to expect, you know what I mean.

00:35:31
Speaker 8: When we got we got a chance to see it a couple of weeks ago, we couldn't stop talking the whole way home. I mean, where where did that the idea of Sinners come from? Obviously out April eighteenth, make sure you check it out. Robert Johnson. We did a little studying on him. We dug in on that there's some urban legend to him. But talk to me about the thought process and you putting that project together.

00:35:52
Speaker 3: It came from from from a lot of different angles, man, but the most focus angle Levey was probably with my uncle James, uncle James Edmonston. So like, so like, Bro, where I came up. You know I'm from. I'm from essentially two places in the Bay, which is like it's like sacrilegious to say where we're from. But but but it's my reality, you know what I'm saying. Like, like, my whole family's from Oakland, and I was born and raised there up up until I was about I want to say, my wife forget me and my wife is here.

00:36:24
Speaker 24: Bro.

00:36:24
Speaker 3: I think I was either ten or eleven years old. But in the nineties, Auckland was getting expensive and they couldn't afford to buy a house where I was from time I was ten or eleven, They bought a house in a city called Richmond, which which is you know, give or take ten ten fifteen minutes from North Aukland. I was where I was living at before, and they bought the house and we basically had been there since. You know, some my little brothers barely remember Oakland, you know.

00:36:50
Speaker 2: What I'm saying. But for me, it was home.

00:36:53
Speaker 16: And it actually kind of saved me.

00:36:55
Speaker 3: Bro when the funks kicked up when the beefs kicked up, Like my ouaklah mummies knew knew me as having moved to Richmond, and then my Richmond hommies to this day they considered me from Oakland, you know what I mean, you know what I'm saying. So so it kind of saved me from a lot of you know, from a lot of from a lot of how bad it got, but a lot of my formative years, like my like I would say, my humility, you know what I'm saying, I learned from Richmond.

00:37:17
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

00:37:18
Speaker 3: Oaklands many things that ain't a humble place, man, you know, you know what I'm saying, Like like, uh, but Richmond is you know, you know what I mean. It's a little it's a little like a slightly slower lifestyle, but it's also like it's also like arguably more dangerous, you know what I mean. Like and my uncle, right after we moved to Richmond, my uncle bought a house like like maybe a ten minute walk in Richmond from from.

00:37:43
Speaker 9: Where we was from.

00:37:43
Speaker 3: So that was my only other family I was in Richmond, so I used to be out there. My parents was cool with me walking to his house and that was when I got old enough to have a little bit of independence for me. Like I would walk and walk down there to his house and sit up under him, you know, just to get off from under the under the house and his thing. He was off work, you know, and he was a World War two ved and he worked in the steel meal and all types of you know, but you know he had he had a more chill job in that era.

00:38:08
Speaker 9: And when he got off.

00:38:09
Speaker 20: Work, he liked to uh.

00:38:11
Speaker 3: Either watch or listen to on the radio the San Franscot Giants. He would spinning blues records on vinyl, and he would drink all Taylor whiskey, you know what I'm saying, And if if the wishy was cold enough and the song was good enough, I might get a story about Mississippi, you know what I mean.

00:38:27
Speaker 9: And each one of them.

00:38:28
Speaker 3: Stories was crazy, Like like I thought that my uncle was g you know what I mean, from the from these stories and like like he had to, he had to. He came to California on the run, you know, you know what I'm saying, because he had got into it with his with his white boss or something, you know, you know what I'm saying. And had to had to flee in the in the middle of the night. And and that was was kind of like my introduction to blues music. I didn't think of it as my own. I thought I was my belonging with something that belonged to my uncle.

00:38:54
Speaker 9: You know what I'm saying.

00:38:55
Speaker 3: And you know, fast forward to me getting a football scholarship and then deciding to go to film school. You know, these decisions, they took me away from my family, you know what I'm saying.

00:39:04
Speaker 2: You know how it is.

00:39:05
Speaker 9: But you're missed a lot of things.

00:39:06
Speaker 3: You know, you're on the road, you miss your birthday, you miss a wedding. You know next you know, you missing funerals, right, you know what I'm saying. I was in La working on Creed especially all the twenty fifteen is with my uncle's health took a time for the worst when he got diagnosed with turning of cancer and and I'm in Philly, away from him, and I'm in La finished up the movie. When I get to the call that he died, you know what I'm saying, And man, bro it brought me down because I felt guilty, you know.

00:39:32
Speaker 16: What I'm saying, Like it's like, man, what is this what is this job?

00:39:35
Speaker 9: Bro?

00:39:35
Speaker 3: That's that that I'm you know, I'm fucking around with an editing software in a computer. Bro, My uncle is don I'm not even able to be there with him, you know what I'm saying, And that guilt associated with that, Bro, I missed so much from that house, bro, Like like bactually everybody from that house passed away, man, Like the only og that's left my is my auntie, Auntie Wendy, you know, And I missed. I missed all all of the last moments with the people because I was because I was pursuing my dream, you know what I'm saying, right, And I would find myself playing all blues records when I thought about Mom, and I was listening to him in a different ear, like now that he was gone. Like I'm studying the music and getting into it heavy, and sometimes I'm listening to it in the dark, and I feel like he right there, He right there listening with me, telling me about the records. And you know, you got a game, bro. We talked about Nick twenty twenty one. I'm listening to a lot of golf.

00:40:32
Speaker 12: You know.

00:40:32
Speaker 3: He gets murdered, and I'm in the South working on Panther two, I'm seeing cotton farms for the first time in my life because I'm in Byron Georgia. You know what I'm saying, uh, And I'm thinking about this thing that happens to us as gangster rap fans, that we sadly become a custom to of an artist being monumental and influencing our lives and rapping about navigating the same things you navigating. And they succumb to it, right like like you said, you got Park right here on your hand and up there. Before Park got married, it was a dude named Seagram from from the six ninth Ville in Oakland. Who's Who's who was like the first gangster rapper. You know, Hemry was gangster, but he wasn't making gangster rap, right, you know what I'm saying. But Segrim was making that you feel me like you put you put Seagram on. And he got signed with Jay Prince to rap a lot and he got married, you know, basically right.

00:41:25
Speaker 2: When he was getting on.

00:41:26
Speaker 16: And then you know, and then he got part you know, and then you got.

00:41:30
Speaker 3: Mac dre, you got Johnny Cash, you know, you got the Jacker, You got countless young dudes.

00:41:37
Speaker 16: You know you know what I mean, Rest peace, Kenny Cherry, can he clutch the hood?

00:41:42
Speaker 2: Rest in peace?

00:41:43
Speaker 3: Tateway from the Ridge. You know what I'm saying, This is constant like this, this this flood of bodies. You know what I'm saying, that's lost and and with with Nip and Doff. It hurts so much because that was my age. And I thought that they made it out, you know what I'm saying, Like I thought that beat, you know, twenty five twenty seven, you know, they rapping luxury rap now about their businesses and their kids, and then boom boom.

00:42:05
Speaker 9: You know what I'm saying, back to back.

00:42:06
Speaker 3: It put me in a mode of of of studying the musician, you know what I'm saying, and and and and the type of music that was coming out that my uncle listened to.

00:42:16
Speaker 9: You know, I.

00:42:16
Speaker 3: Interrogated it, you know what I'm saying. And and and that was really where you know, where the idea came from for the for the movie. It was all of those things, and coming off of spending so much time making you know, two comic book movies in a boxing movie, and you know, I wanted to make something original. You know, I was really from my soul, you know, and about what I'm interested in before it was too late.

00:42:41
Speaker 9: That's interesting because hearing you break it down, you can feel it. The movie.

00:42:46
Speaker 3: Definitely in louvig Bro his father, you know, he from Sweden, brought his father went to name him Albert for Albert King. His father was that heavy of adulta blues fan, you know.

00:42:57
Speaker 9: You know what I'm saying.

00:42:58
Speaker 3: And when I researched the music and I was like, I really got into like, well, my uncle loved it so much, you know what I'm saying. I realized that this was this was maybe our country's greatest contribution to the arts.

00:43:09
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

00:43:09
Speaker 9: Delta blues music.

00:43:10
Speaker 16: This music became, it became rock and roll.

00:43:13
Speaker 9: It became R and B, it became a different genres.

00:43:15
Speaker 2: It became you know, you can.

00:43:16
Speaker 16: Everything that's that's that's cool now. It has been cool for the last.

00:43:20
Speaker 3: You know, sixty years. You know, it started right here with these with these people. You know, you know what I mean that concept I said, this is a massive concept. I gotta shoot this.

00:43:28
Speaker 2: On the big cameras.

00:43:28
Speaker 3: I gotta bring all my homies that that that that really are really good at this filmmaking thing. I got to bring them to the South so we could we could spend six months making this, you know what I'm saying, And that's what we did.

00:43:40
Speaker 9: Where the vampire twists come from.

00:43:42
Speaker 16: I love horror movies. People didn't know that about me, you know what I'm saying.

00:43:45
Speaker 3: I was actually it was actually like it was actually a point of side this man, when I realized, like I've been making movies over ten years and people still don't really know me, you know what I'm saying.

00:43:54
Speaker 9: But that's your fault not to cut you off. You don't like, you don't like this. This is not your thing. I mean before it wasn't like you don't like that. You like you like being behind the scenes.

00:44:02
Speaker 16: Like God, God bless you can feel right right right right, that's.

00:44:07
Speaker 8: One thing I always expect, Like you never because it's like the first like I've been asking you ship since I started this ship to sit down, you know what I mean, And that's just and you're like, it's not not right, it's not really it's never really been your thing. And I like that you are giving the world an opportunity to see this, you know what I mean, Because I got a chance to you know, get a little snapshot of it, and like your mind is like the way you think and the way you carry yourself is dope, And I'm glad you're opening up to people.

00:44:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean this project, this project is definitely worthy of you, bro from from my standpoint, like.

00:44:38
Speaker 16: You know, and it needs the context.

00:44:42
Speaker 9: Welcome to the show, Ben f that's just.

00:44:48
Speaker 1: Mind Jordan's.

00:44:49
Speaker 25: You know, I knew him a little bit, just in the sense of you know, when you're you know, you're run across somebody at events and of course you know it's like it's like me, god, you know, trying to like suck up to the guy and everything, and then you know, just just in so much admiration of him. And when we got hold of this story, you know, knew him well enough basically just calm up and go, hey, look like I got a hold of this script. I like to make the movie, but I have too much respect for you and what you mean, Like, I'm not gonna do anything that you're not down with. So if you want to give me a couple of hours, sit down and tell me like what's real, what's not and what you care about, you know, And he was like all right, cool, come out to my golf course. So blew out there sick, you know what I mean. Damn, it's good to be Michael Jordan. It turns out, Oh it's great. Yeah, and nobody's there, so him and his boys. It's just like that thing, you know, And he I went waited for my man to finish, you know what I mean. They're like, Michael, be like soon, and I was like, I'm not going. And when he got done, he was like, so, what what is this?

00:45:55
Speaker 9: You know?

00:45:55
Speaker 25: And I said, look, it's the story of your Nike deal basically, and you know happened around then, and here's I had sent him a script and I kind of talked him through it a little bit. And it's interesting, of all the people I talked to for that movie talking about humility, like, he was the only one who was like, look, I talk about what I was I can't.

00:46:14
Speaker 11: Do as Mike's voice is so deep, I can't do it. But it was like it it gives a little extra intimidation, like, hey, look what's up? Okay? He was like, I can only tell you what I was there for and what I know to be true.

00:46:25
Speaker 25: I'm not going to talk about what happened when I wasn't in the room, which everybody else is like, this is what happened, this is what happened.

00:46:31
Speaker 11: He was the only one. I was like, I know what I know, and I don't know what I wasn't there for. Here's what matters to me.

00:46:36
Speaker 25: And he talked about his folks, and he talked about you know, Chris Tucker's character obviously, and he talked about like what was critical in terms of like, and I don't want to give away anything because it was the private conversation, right, but I was like, okay, cool, are you like? So these are this is the shit that I'm not you know, I'm gonna take that as gospel and then go do it. And I was like, but Mike, I don't want to. I'm not gonna put you in the movie because you're such a like an icon. As soon as I show somebody and try to be like that's Michael Jordan, you're just gonna.

00:47:11
Speaker 11: Be like, no, it isn't.

00:47:12
Speaker 9: You know.

00:47:12
Speaker 11: It just can't show a silhouette. You're like, no, it's not him. And so he was like, I don't know if you liked that or not, you know what I mean?

00:47:19
Speaker 25: But he was like, all right, okay, cool, yeah, no, Biola David's gonna play my mom.

00:47:24
Speaker 11: I was like, oh, okay, cool, I guess we better write her a good part.

00:47:28
Speaker 9: What was the process is trying to get her? Because I'm sure it wasn't very easy.

00:47:31
Speaker 25: No, I mean, if iow is somebody that I really look up, I think she's like the very best, you know, and that that absolute top of the best actors in the world. And she knew I felt that way because I had a little part with her in Suicide Squad and I was.

00:47:46
Speaker 11: Like, hey, you know, I think you're a genius and I'd love to do something with you. And she was kind of like, yeah, you know, and.

00:47:53
Speaker 25: And and so you know, I was just like I knew that I could use the fact that Michael wanted her. It was going to be in a hell of a lot more than that I wanted her. And I was like, hey, vi, all the look we wrote this, you know, for you and everything, and uh and Mike did say that the only way we can do it is if you play.

00:48:11
Speaker 9: And so she was.

00:48:14
Speaker 1: She came and did and did it.

00:48:16
Speaker 25: She was amazing and her husband, Julius Uh was great to He played Mike's dad.

00:48:22
Speaker 11: They play husband and wife.

00:48:23
Speaker 25: And he was like because he because I asked Michael, like, what's the like, I'm trying to find an actor play your father, like and I know, you know his father passed away and a lot has been said about how close they were and all that stuff, and he and.

00:48:35
Speaker 11: I was like, how do I who do I look for? And he was like, my dad had the best personality of anybody in the world.

00:48:41
Speaker 25: And like when he told me that, I remember being like he moved me, you know, and so and and then when Julius, I was like, this is just a dude who's so proud of his son.

00:48:51
Speaker 11: And that's what I loved about.

00:48:52
Speaker 25: Like what he did with that because she was a little more cynical, she kind of knew and saw maybe kind of do some of the bullshit.

00:48:59
Speaker 11: And I love the idea. But he was just so fucking.

00:49:03
Speaker 25: Proud of his son and just love everybody dracking his son and making videos and shit and just happy. And it was beautiful and cutting that against like the the clips of like, you know, his father's you know, being killed.

00:49:16
Speaker 11: Ultimately, I made it really really.

00:49:18
Speaker 25: Powerful, like you watched this guy who's you're not gonna live through the story to see his son become this you know who he became. And but but those two were really the anchor in the heart of the movie, and that that was definitely what Mike he He was not like sweating the corporate details of the fucking and you know he didn't.

00:49:36
Speaker 11: He was like, look and he said what he said.

00:49:38
Speaker 25: But he what mattered to him was like the certain key key people, you know, and and that we got you know, Marlon and Chris to play them was cool. And Chris of course like knows everybody, you know what I mean, Chris, guys who's like, you can be you know, you can't bring up a name.

00:49:57
Speaker 8: Jesus Now he's friends of the two major mics excuse me, Jordan and Magic and Michael Michael Jackson, Michael Jordan.

00:50:07
Speaker 11: And he's like, yeah, I'm at Ali, you know, like Mama Ali, Like who the fuck?

00:50:11
Speaker 1: Don't you know? He is amazing?

00:50:13
Speaker 11: He's because you just like him and cool and oh.

00:50:15
Speaker 22: Yeah, I'm cool.

00:50:16
Speaker 11: Mandela. I was like, what, it's the craziest thing in the world. But he's Christmas brilliant movie.

00:50:25
Speaker 9: I love him. How was it playing Phil Knight? You know, it was a little bit like, did you talk to him?

00:50:33
Speaker 22: I didn't want to talk to him first.

00:50:34
Speaker 25: I didn't want to get him to do anything with Nike because, you know, I was aware that like people are gonna be like, oh, this is like a Nike propaganda thing or.

00:50:41
Speaker 11: Whatever, and I didn't want to.

00:50:43
Speaker 22: We didn't get any shoes or gear from them. We didn't get shipped from you know.

00:50:47
Speaker 25: We got like the some of the stuff off eBay that was like the old waffle the shoe and stuff. And so they hadn't seen the movie at all and really know about it and kind of heard about it after we were done, and then they asked to screen it. And that's when I was like, oh shit. I was having a lot of fun, you know, playing Phil and kind of fucking with him, and so we went up and they were like, yeah, come up and show.

00:51:10
Speaker 11: Fill the movie. It's like okay, And all of a sudden I was like, oh man, did I go too far with fucking round?

00:51:16
Speaker 9: Then sue us and.

00:51:18
Speaker 25: Ship and they asked us to come up there, and we showed the movie in Portland, but not at Nike. I think they like rented out this whole movie theater down the street and we showed it, and Phil showed up and his kids, his wife and then like the.

00:51:34
Speaker 11: General counsel from Nike, and.

00:51:38
Speaker 25: So I introduced it and I remember being like, look, this is about the spirit of the company. And Phil, remember everybody likes to fuck with the boss, so you gotta have a sense of humor about that. And to his to his credit, he really did, you know. He was like, yeah, you know, you could take exception with this moment. In that moment, everybody has their thing. But it was actually really moving. When the movie was over, I walked in there and I saw like I was like, I shouldn't have done that thing where I stole.

00:52:04
Speaker 1: The candy at the movie.

00:52:06
Speaker 25: I was like, what am I fucking idiot? I don't even think about this. I walked out there and everyone was quiet and and nobody would say anything until Phil said something, and so I was kind of waiting. I said, so, all right, you know, what what'd you think? And Phil was like, well, I have some notes. I was like, gosh shit, all right, all right, well it's locked, but you know we can if you have some caveats, I can talk about them in the press or whatever.

00:52:30
Speaker 11: And and he said, first thing, he said to me, he was like, we were friends, and I thought, for a minute, looked like the d was about to cry.

00:52:41
Speaker 25: He'd like he because the truth is like that group kind of scattered after that, and because of the success of the Jordan thing, you know, son, he went to Adidas and Bateman's character also left, and you know, success brings success, but also sometimes people arguing about who's credit and he gets credit everything. And we didn't include that any of this stuff at the end of the movie, but I got the sense and he didn't say that that there was like, yeah.

00:53:06
Speaker 22: There have been acrimony, there have been competition.

00:53:08
Speaker 25: And when he saw it because what we did go to great lengths to copy exactly was like the office and the look and all that stuff, and he was like, you know, Phels, he's older now and he was like and he seemed like he was almost about to cry.

00:53:19
Speaker 11: He was like, we were friends.

00:53:21
Speaker 22: We were just friends trying to do something like he got lost in the nostalgia of.

00:53:26
Speaker 1: Like ye, he took him there, took him there, and uh, you know, and.

00:53:31
Speaker 11: Then all everybody else was like, oh yeah, great movie.

00:53:33
Speaker 26: Great.

00:53:33
Speaker 11: So he had to break the ice.

00:53:34
Speaker 9: Yeah he did. Interesting if you were doing a bio pick up Michael Jordan. You think anybody who would you think will play him? Is there anybody that you can come to mind?

00:53:42
Speaker 25: It's so difficult, man, because you know, part of it is, I mean there's great actors like look, you know, like I mean, it's funny, but like I think Michael B.

00:53:54
Speaker 11: Jordan's one of the one of the great actors.

00:53:56
Speaker 1: I love him.

00:53:57
Speaker 11: I think he's just like this, like this the generation. Like, I just think he's spectacular.

00:54:02
Speaker 9: I think he's.

00:54:03
Speaker 25: Amazing in centners. A guy is just unbelievable. You know, he's been a friend of mine for a while, and so you know, he's a he's a first name that comes to mind just because he's actually too he yoked, right, he has that like magnetism and charisma, you know.

00:54:24
Speaker 11: And I didn't, you know, I didn't know.

00:54:25
Speaker 25: I wasn't around Jordan, So I don't know how much of it was, how much of the intimidation level or the toughness or whatever, like, because when I was a fan watching them, so I just saw what the other fans saw. And back in those days, you know, there was more of a filter that was getting put on. I mean, you guys know a lot better than me, obviously, but that's the sense I get. So Jordan remains kind of a mysterious figure to me too. Yeah, probably he seems to not be interested chasing ship.

00:55:00
Speaker 9: It wasn't thank you, Yes, Fast and Furious. Ten. We say ten like the first thing that come to your mind, number ten. The first thing that comes to my mind is.

00:55:16
Speaker 2: What the fuck?

00:55:18
Speaker 9: What fuck? Right?

00:55:20
Speaker 5: I mean, listen, I can only be honest, and I say that because me and ty Reese both came in at two Too Fast, Too Furious, so we didn't even start the franchise.

00:55:28
Speaker 9: We got lucky. Rest in peace to John Singleton.

00:55:31
Speaker 5: John Singleton takes you know, he's known for taking ice Cube and certain people from the music world, ty Reese and throwing them in movies and then all of a sudden they have a whole career. He took me and and and put me in Too Fast, Too Furious. Tye had already done Baby Boy with him, and it changed the entire direction and trajectory of my of my life. Because I was on tour with eminem at the time, and I remember it like it was yesterday. I got the call from John Singleton. He's like, I want you to try out for this part. I'm backstage about to go on in like thirty thirty minutes, and he's like, I'm sending you the side right now. I'm like, I'm thinking to myself, like, why the fuck is this such a rush? Like can I get a day, you know to look over these sides and stuff? And I read the sides and did everything? Come to find out later, John Rule was supposed to get the part, and I don't know what happens.

00:56:27
Speaker 9: I don't want to misspeak.

00:56:28
Speaker 5: But however it happened, they came to me and that those are the best sloppy seconds I've ever had in my god damn life. Yeah said I got the part. You called me the next day. It was like, you got the part changed my life. So when I say bring it it full circle, when I say, god damn, too fast, too furious, you come back in five so years have passed.

00:56:49
Speaker 9: So then it did you know what I'm saying?

00:56:51
Speaker 5: And then it did three and four and then you just get this call we want you to come back, and I'm like, oh shit, all right, that's a surprise.

00:56:58
Speaker 9: And then you go six seven, eight nine. What you just say?

00:57:06
Speaker 5: There's one part of ten. That means it's more than this father, right, are you kidding? It's the gift that keeps on giving. Bro, When you say ten to me, I was happy at two. That's basically what I'm trying to say. So to be in seven of them is it blows my mind man, Like now we have lifetime memories with every single cast member, Like it's this is a quarter century of our lives. So our families hang out with each other, our kids know each other. Me and Ben's youngest daughters are like best friends, birthday parties, I've spent Thanksgiving, you know what I mean?

00:57:41
Speaker 9: Like it's that, it's that real.

00:57:43
Speaker 5: And while we're on it, just so that y'all know and y'all could ask ty reach the same thing. I put my cast up against any cast in movie history in terms of when you yell cut in the movie and the camera goes off of who really fucks with each other?

00:57:58
Speaker 9: Truly, nobody can with us when it comes to that, all of us.

00:58:04
Speaker 12: But you start talking about two now we're at ten, Like how crazy has has each movie got?

00:58:10
Speaker 9: And like do you do your own stunts? That's a good ask question. Let me ask, so let me break this ship down. Ask first one.

00:58:18
Speaker 5: That's a good question because because people people really need to know. So your first your first question was before you said you did your own stunts, was what.

00:58:26
Speaker 9: Was it how the movie gets crazy? How crazy do they get each movie?

00:58:30
Speaker 5: So what I was gonna say was that's one of the things that we seem to defy stereotypically, because you know, as sequels go on and on, before it was like sometimes they will get worse and worse. Arguably, these have gotten better and better to the point where it's like people just trying to understand how the hell we keep doing this shit? And I also hear people say all the time, why do y'all keep doing these movies? That's the dumbest fucking question in the world. I'm gonna tell you why, because no matter what industry we in podcasts, music, movies, it's all about a bottom line. It's all about how much you spend compared to how much you make. We're making billions of fucking dollars every time, bro, And I'm saying that like, I'm just giving you my heart. I'm not trying to brag nothing. So when you say why do y'all keys? When some of y'all keeps saying why the fuck do y'all keep shooting these movies? Let me tell you why, Because if you spend two hundred million and you make a billion, who the fuck is you gonna tell the stop shooting movies when you make it eight hundred motherfucking million dollars every time? How I need people to stop asking that question, even if you don't like it, even if you don't want.

00:59:39
Speaker 9: To watch it, stop asking that goddamn question. That is the answer.

00:59:45
Speaker 5: Because there is a person who's a CEO and a whole bunch of executives that work at an office, and they say, we just made eight hundred million dollars, We're going.

00:59:53
Speaker 11: To make another one.

00:59:54
Speaker 9: That's why it's part two period shit and the second part of stunts.

01:00:01
Speaker 5: When we first started in Too Fast, Too Furious, and on the first one, they used to let us do our own stunts, I meaning they would have like we would be driving the cars and everything, and they would have duplicate cars waiting just in case we wreck one of them, and then we getting the other one and just keep going, you know, seat belts strapped up everything safe. As the budgets continue to grow, they said, get the fuck out of them damn seats.

01:00:27
Speaker 9: And we're gonna replace you with stunt men.

01:00:29
Speaker 5: And no, we don't do our own stunts anymore to a degree, like we do little stuff, but the big shit we just leave to the stunt.

01:00:35
Speaker 9: You wouldn't have did that stunt in real life when you was franking the jawn.

01:00:38
Speaker 5: Without hell nah, absolutely not Nah. That was falling off a damn falcony. I don't play like that.

01:00:46
Speaker 9: I like to do crazy shit, but you know, jumping off balconies is not one of.

01:00:49
Speaker 12: These things, not at all. You speak Holly of ven Diesel. What makes him the face of the franchise?

01:00:59
Speaker 5: That's another good question, because y'all are asking questions that like people don't ask one, and then number two, that's going to allow me to tell you shit that other people don't fucking know. Then is one of those people that he's okay with not getting the credit? And what I mean by that is what makes him so special. He's a producer on these films. When I tell you this man eats, sleeps, breathes, shits fast and furious everything.

01:01:31
Speaker 9: But it's like other people will kind of get the credit. He just stays behind the scenes.

01:01:34
Speaker 5: But he's involved in every element, in every detail I'm talking about to my character, to Tyese's character, not just his character. He's looking out for everything, and he's looking out for the heart of what makes this franchise, you know, just the heartbeat of it. Because you know, you can see all these flying stunts and all this craziness and people can say it, but if you really think about when you watch these movies, why people keep coming back to the theater, there's a certain element of heart. And I know people joke about the family, and that's saying family all the time. But he is so in tune with making sure that there's heart moments that leave you even subconsciously wondering why you want to keep going back and watching this fucking movie and why you are just.

01:02:21
Speaker 9: So tied to it.

01:02:23
Speaker 5: And that's what in action, besides that action, besides all the besides the stuff that's on the surface. What I'm saying, he's he gets way beneath the surface and understands what makes the human fiber and people tick.

01:02:38
Speaker 9: That's why he's so fun. Welcome to the show, alan Q. You appreciate your time.

01:02:47
Speaker 12: I did a lot of legendary movies, especially in our culture. Let's talk about three of those movies. Minister Society one. The process of doing that. I mean, I come from it, just that whole movie. It was just it wasn't just exciting to our culture, but it told so many people's stories, the way a lot of people was living, you know what.

01:03:08
Speaker 9: I mean.

01:03:08
Speaker 12: To see that on the big screen, to see it played out like in real time, like how rich shit really gone?

01:03:14
Speaker 9: Like that really did a lot for our culture. Talk about that, the process of that movie.

01:03:17
Speaker 24: I think the important thing I remember at the time we were selling that is you remember the show Cops.

01:03:22
Speaker 2: That's what we saw.

01:03:24
Speaker 24: We saw on the news every night, young black males running from the cops. The helicopter point of view. I remember at the time Spike Lee talking about and he was right when Ciskel and Ebert didn't like one of his films, he said, I don't make my films for you, and make it from my community, right, and he was correcting that Menace was different. I felt we needed to make it for white people. I felt black people would appreciate it and know it. But again that word understanding, I think we made that so you can see how that kid became that one of the news you're looking at and humanize them. It's hardcore as menace is. You got to humanize, you know, these these these children, their children, you know. And that was the number one reason we made that film, was just to get an understanding so we all weren't looked at like animals and as brutal as the film was. Also, like people were in the culture, like if you were lucky enough to make a black film back then, it had to have a message. It had to be kind of sweet and have this good ending. You know, you didn't really have much control over your material. And we grew up on noir film. We grew up on Scorsese and de Palmer and all that hardcore shit. So we wanted to make a statement. It wasn't a message film. It was making a statement and it was a cautionary tale as well. And we knew we didn't want it to end pretty. It's part of the reason too. And Dear Mama, I grapple with like I we have to be careful about not making Tupac's death sexy, because there's nothing sexy about getting shot. There's nothing sexy about dying prematurely. So that was what Menace was about. And now it's a full circle moment with dealing with the Tupac thing, because it really enough, he kind of became that for better or worse. He embodied it for a reason and he went out like that.

01:05:14
Speaker 9: You know, can you speak to real quick?

01:05:18
Speaker 8: I was fortunate enough to before John Singleton past got a chance to go to the Poetic Justice twenty five year anniversary and we watched it with him and everything. But I thought what was really dope was after he told us who possibly could have played the other characters and who are there looking at? Can you talk to us and in a society about who possibly could have played other roles or who you guys were thinking roles were for.

01:05:37
Speaker 24: First of all, I got to give a shout out to Tyron Turner because he's mad at him, and I don't Tyrone. I'm acknowledging it right now.

01:05:44
Speaker 9: He was a raw talent.

01:05:45
Speaker 24: I saw in a Jennet Jackson video, Rhythm Nation video. I saw him on an episode of America's Most Wanted. He played a blood even though he's from a Grip neighborhood.

01:05:53
Speaker 11: So who is this?

01:05:54
Speaker 2: This dude was going bananas?

01:05:56
Speaker 24: I find out. He's from that, so he knows that. So we fought real hard to get him. That was the only right I start with tying, because we didn't have anyone in mind for that role but him. We were just obsessed with him. Old Dog was written for Easy E. And I gotta I gotta carefully say this because ice Cube has stated a few times that we offered him that role. I don't know who offered him that role. God bless him, because.

01:06:22
Speaker 9: They were going off of Boys in the Hood, right, Yeah.

01:06:24
Speaker 24: We never We never considered ice Cube because because Boys in the Hood and we had this Easy thing at the time. But that doesn't mean he didn't get contacted by our casting agents. But in our minds, we wrote that for Easy because we were with Easy while we were putting that script together, and that's who we were looking for.

01:06:43
Speaker 2: Easy.

01:06:45
Speaker 24: That's another story. You know, Cube had had been gone for a year, Dre was leaving when this was happening, and him and Jerry were very controlling. So that's I had to get kind of get out from underneath that. And so now we have to find a new guy, and we're looking for the easy look, you know, bulky typical, and we can't find odog and then the casting director says, I'll bring you I'll bring in the guys that that I didn't want you guys to see. And that's when Lomrenez Tate walked in and and he didn't looked He looked like a disney kid at the time. But once I said action, he he was right there. He was what you saw in the film.

01:07:26
Speaker 9: He was.

01:07:26
Speaker 2: He came with that.

01:07:27
Speaker 24: I can't act like we gave that to him or you know, he came with that uh a Wax which was m c a that was supposed to be m. C ran first met with him several times, but Easy and Jerry were blocking that, you know, so thank god because uh and Tupac was meant to play Sharif the Muslim, which became the challenge for him. You know, he didn't he signed on because he was our homeboy and he got the movie Greenley. They said, if we're not going to green light the movie unless you get a platinum recording artist, I go fly up to Oakland and he agrees to do it. But at the time that people have to understand too, like we were so close. The thing, the real misunderstanding where we're all like Accountable is. We were meant to be making movies with Tupac. So you can imagine when he tells me one day he's in pre production on Poetic Justice. He goes me and John Singleton agreed, I'm only starring in John Singleton movies. We're gonna be like Scorsace and de Niro. He gets like that, he gets really once he starts a relationship with you, he gets he's fire. It's all passion. So I'm sitting there kind of hurt too, like damn, and he goes, no, I'll still do I'll do the supporting role. I'll still do that. But I'm only starring in John Singleton movies. So that's what happened there.

01:08:54
Speaker 9: Welcome to the show, maw. Did you get to keep all them suits because they was fitted?

01:09:03
Speaker 6: Did you get to keep stacking joints all fitted just for me?

01:09:05
Speaker 9: Bro right?

01:09:08
Speaker 6: Week before rap, week before No, season six, No, let me take the board?

01:09:15
Speaker 27: Season six, Courtney, will let me go do a movie? I still had three episodes to do. You know that Who Done It? The final sixth episode where the Who Done It's right? And I know a lot of the fans were mad, like wait, who done It's better the reality of the who done it? Is better to be the ghost still living. But obviously we learned that who done it were just about who did it? What a conclusion? Being their ghost is not a lot. I can say it now still hurts a week before stat like rap rap, pack up the New York apartment, rap, rap, because I know the fate of my character.

01:09:47
Speaker 6: Remember the world.

01:09:47
Speaker 9: I know the faith but you knew already.

01:09:49
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I had three episodes, but this is after that.

01:09:53
Speaker 27: I had three episodes left when Courtney did a really cool, solid and let me go do a movie. I did a movie with Nate Parker American Skin. To lose some weight, real real quick. Had to gain the weight back and then finish three more episodes of Power. We are now finished the sixteenth episode of season six and a half. I call it that because prior years, except for season one Stack, we were ten episode season one eight so final season sixteen, so season six and a half. Frank Fleming, Who's phenomenal. He was the show's clothing designer. He was the costume designers what you call it, So he designed the look of the show, the whole thing. He was the costume designer as much as someone is given the credit up being a set designer. He was the costume designer for all thirty five to sixty characters, guest stars included. He called me, he said, Oh, I don't know if you ever realized how many suits we bought that were never used, that they had tags on them, Homie, so some I hadn't even done the nip chuck. They're all yours, oh, I said. He said, they're all yours. This my rap gift to you.

01:11:01
Speaker 9: Damn wow.

01:11:03
Speaker 6: So I said, when can I come in?

01:11:04
Speaker 9: He goes, what your what are your?

01:11:06
Speaker 2: What's going on?

01:11:07
Speaker 27: I said, Jay and I packing the New York apartment. We have bought the spot in Denver, which you knew, Matt. We were hiding out in Denver so doing the thing and the thing, and Chauncey was excited about me coming back to Denver. Stack Chauncey billup shout out to Chauncy, like really excited. Champ told me he was gonna stay in Denver if I in.

01:11:24
Speaker 2: Fact really came back.

01:11:25
Speaker 11: That nigga left.

01:11:28
Speaker 6: Champ, you left me, Homie, but I was prepping to move, and.

01:11:32
Speaker 2: Uh, I went bro.

01:11:33
Speaker 27: I was so excited that, and I from, there's so many suits, bro. I was like, wow, I felt so complimentary.

01:11:42
Speaker 9: You deserved it.

01:11:43
Speaker 6: It was so many suits. She said, Okay, I got them. I said, are you?

01:11:47
Speaker 27: Are you doing or you? He said, no, you I can. He said, I know your measurements. So pick out five, I said. He said no, no, no, you're getting seventy five suits. But pick out five that you could use right away for future things, interviews, whatnot. And then I'll get those done the way that all the other suits. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, man.

01:12:06
Speaker 9: That look you got so.

01:12:07
Speaker 6: Within that space.

01:12:10
Speaker 27: Of those five suits being made and the other seven years so floating.

01:12:17
Speaker 7: No.

01:12:18
Speaker 6: I called Frank and I said, are you mailing him? You said you were mailing him, they were shipping him. He said, oh, I said that it wasn't.

01:12:25
Speaker 9: Ship one of them moves.

01:12:27
Speaker 2: Huh, oh it was his ship.

01:12:29
Speaker 9: No, not Frank, not Frank.

01:12:31
Speaker 27: No, Frank was right, he was right, almost in tears, right, I said, Frank, I never got those suits.

01:12:38
Speaker 6: Crickets on the phone. Frank has offered me to buy some of those suits. Years have passed, obviously spent five years since that show.

01:12:47
Speaker 27: It so hurt him that he is offered to buy some of those suits, some of them either oswald and or tom Ford, whatever suits I got from that show, or whatever suits I had gotten or been gifted to where to either promote power and or any other thing, and stack those suits just happened to not be returned from the closet.

01:13:08
Speaker 11: The entire.

01:13:10
Speaker 6: Rolodexum suits.

01:13:13
Speaker 9: Never got Wow, Thomas Man.

01:13:19
Speaker 8: You got you special because you just made a motherfucking suit story so suspenseful and had everybody on that I tell about suits, and he just had me running like.

01:13:28
Speaker 9: God, damn, what have these suits?

01:13:33
Speaker 1: But but I had to tell you that way.

01:13:36
Speaker 27: I had to tell There's no other way to tell you the story, man, because I wanted it to be known that the benevolence involved in that was that Frank had called and said, I have all these.

01:13:45
Speaker 6: Suits you and I can't not tell that story because Frank was a g for setting those suits aside for me. So for me, it is the thought that counts. As corny as that may sound, that's real. He really really was like I got these suits for you, bro, and so he and I.

01:13:58
Speaker 24: I don't know.

01:13:59
Speaker 27: You can use the word ghost all you want in many facets in life but in this regard it's pretty apropos. I guess the ghost took them because I never saw those suits again. On that's a real story, bro. And if I could, if I could elongate the pat less stack, gotta putting the motherfucker suits on you.

01:14:16
Speaker 12: Pimping, Yeah, Clean, I told you six seven, Yeah, I would have put suits with different right, clean Bro.

01:14:24
Speaker 8: Early in the morning on the show too, that nigga suited up at seven am like that, waking up early that early to be.

01:14:33
Speaker 9: Making Tom kill this nigga, he's gonna kill his first.

01:14:42
Speaker 27: I always wonder, I always you know, I know, y'all give credit to Spike Lee for being such a part of the basketball movement and hip hop becoming so synonymous with basketball.

01:14:51
Speaker 6: Spike has a lot to do with that.

01:14:53
Speaker 27: You think about Michael Jeffrey Jordan and his commercial, there's a lot, you know, the relationship there. Power was such a BEAUTIF loved showing the hip hop culture. I always wonder what you guys experienced was either coming outro in terms of almost exiting stage left as NBA greats and still playing when Power was rocking. I always wonder what it what the buzz was for the NBA in terms of players watching it.

01:15:20
Speaker 9: Fucking with it, man, A lot of as soon as the game over.

01:15:23
Speaker 8: You seen the new show of Power you showed to them mad because I wanted to binge watch it.

01:15:28
Speaker 9: I don't want to know when to talk about it because I don't like just watch one is not enough for you.

01:15:31
Speaker 8: I like to watch at least two, three, four s fall asleep on you know what I mean, so and then rewatch that when I leave off.

01:15:37
Speaker 9: So I never really want but we're all fucking with that ship. Bro.

01:15:40
Speaker 12: I'm the guy that like on Hulu some shows come out. They supposed to come out Thursday, but they come out eat them before out midnight. Yeah, I been waiting on them.

01:15:49
Speaker 9: You ain't seen what happened to this the whole day up? Man, I know you kill last night? My bad?

01:15:57
Speaker 6: But did you watch Power with wife Field?

01:15:58
Speaker 9: Did you so you had to?

01:16:00
Speaker 6: She would get mad like I didn't watch it?

01:16:02
Speaker 11: Yeah?

01:16:02
Speaker 9: That's how we are now still with shows with Yellowstone with Yeah.

01:16:04
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna ask so when me and my girl fight, I'm gonna go watch our show without her?

01:16:09
Speaker 6: Yeah you would you and then act? Would you play it off like you ain't seen it.

01:16:11
Speaker 9: No, I'm gonna letter. See me. I'm a letter. Come downstairs and see me in my little spot. Probably when weave that day. That's why I've been doing. We getting our fights.

01:16:19
Speaker 8: That's my pettiness is I'll watch the show we're watching together by myself like ye see fuck.

01:16:23
Speaker 9: You know one of your own in the buildings to night Mike. Yeah, Man, we appreciate you. Man, Thank you ice Cube. How instrumental has he been in? What kind of friendship do you guys have? Man? That's my dog for life. Man, I love ice Cube. Man.

01:16:39
Speaker 17: Ice Cube gave me my first job. He gave me five thousand dollars. As soon as I seen him, he knew I was broke. He said, Man, you and your girl go to Magic Mountain.

01:16:51
Speaker 28: You don't remember Magic Mountain? Yeah, that nigga gave me five thousand. Then my girl got dressed just alike and went to Magic Mouth.

01:17:04
Speaker 9: Yeah that's how the full five airbusty shirt.

01:17:12
Speaker 28: There's some niggas from the forties trying to bang on me.

01:17:14
Speaker 9: Nigga.

01:17:14
Speaker 17: I had some red shit on where you from cuz I said, the movies, nigger, the movie business, My motherfucking gang nigga.

01:17:24
Speaker 8: Oh shit, did you feel pressure coming in after what Chris Tucker did in the First Friday Ever?

01:17:30
Speaker 9: You came in, Hell yeah, and did your thing, but you felt there was a lot of pressure.

01:17:34
Speaker 17: Hey, man, Chris Tucker did such a great job in that movie as Smoky. They was looking at me like, you better kill this shit. You did though, John Witherspoons, he was looking at me like this, and it was real quiet. I went to Cube. I said, man, this ship ain't working. He said, it ain't time for you to be funny.

01:18:00
Speaker 9: I said, huh.

01:18:02
Speaker 17: He said, yeah, that scene right there is just the lead. It's gonna be your time to get funny. When I when I went down there and said, man, y'all, tell y'all, let y'all, she sprayed me and all that.

01:18:12
Speaker 9: She sprayed me the faith.

01:18:13
Speaker 2: That was when I was on.

01:18:14
Speaker 9: Right there, I was on. It was gone. Didn't told me it was on.

01:18:20
Speaker 2: Then it was on my first movie I did.

01:18:23
Speaker 17: I bought my mother washing drive man. My mother bought my mother washing drive man. She was living in some apartments. I said, Mama with you. I said, Mama, want to.

01:18:32
Speaker 9: Buy your house?

01:18:32
Speaker 17: She said, no, just buy me a washing drive She said, I'm tired of women at the Linda met telling me you ain't my son, that ain't your son.

01:18:42
Speaker 2: I said, fuck dam you ain't gotta see them no more.

01:18:44
Speaker 17: I bought a washing drive, that dope, and I tried to buy our house and she said, no, you ain't gonna fuck my social security up because she was getting like seven hundred dollars a.

01:18:53
Speaker 2: Month at the time.

01:18:56
Speaker 9: She was getting seven hundred a month.

01:18:58
Speaker 28: And she said, if if then people see that you are giving me money in an account, they might cut my social security back.

01:19:06
Speaker 9: So I you know what I mean. I just couldn't do it with the whole light waiting on that social security. You ain't gonna fuck that up?

01:19:12
Speaker 17: And no, fuck that yeah, because my mother was looking at it like you might not be in the business loan you only did two movies, nigga, don't go to buying houses and shit, you ain't out to clear Yeah.

01:19:27
Speaker 9: After the legendary ice cube in the building today, appreciate you man, Yeah Yeah. Nineteen ninety five, how did Friday present itself? What kind of experience was that?

01:19:38
Speaker 29: I wrote that with the homie DJ Pooh j Yeah, DJ Pooh shot out we had been big fans of Hollywood Shuffle, you know, shout out to Robert Towns. Robert Townsend, he's a genius.

01:19:52
Speaker 9: You know.

01:19:52
Speaker 29: Without Robert Townsend, there is no Friday because he shot that movie with it damn credit card down there.

01:20:01
Speaker 18: You know.

01:20:01
Speaker 29: He showed us like, don't wait on Hollywood, man, gorilla that shit if you have to and tell your story.

01:20:08
Speaker 2: So and he had some great comedians.

01:20:12
Speaker 29: You know, I stole John Witherspoon from from from Robert Townsend.

01:20:20
Speaker 2: And so we was fans of that. We was fans of in Living Color.

01:20:26
Speaker 29: And we had saw so many movies about how we grew up from boys in the hood to minister society to South Central even Colors.

01:20:35
Speaker 2: We was like, damn, man, niggas think it's Vietnam around here. It's like, is it that bad?

01:20:41
Speaker 29: I mean, we didn't we have fun around here a little bit? Like yeah, it's like, let's write a movie about how we looked at all this shit instead of how you know, we don't want nobody to feel sad for how we grew up, you know what I'm saying, Or be like damn, you know, y'all surprised y'all ain't in prison. So we just wanted to have fun at you know, have two dudes on the porch just tripping off how crazy their neighborhood is.

01:21:11
Speaker 2: And and that's how the ball started to roll on. You know what Friday was gonna be about.

01:21:17
Speaker 9: How'd you find Chris Tucker.

01:21:18
Speaker 29: I saw him on Deaf Comedy Jam, you know, shout out to Russell Simmons. Saw him on Deaf Comedy Jam, and I was like, this kid is funny as hell.

01:21:30
Speaker 2: And then.

01:21:33
Speaker 29: He did a small little part in the House Party three, and I was like, cann't play fucked up because they did not use this kid enough of this movie. So I was like, if I get a movie, I gotta find something for this dude. And I felt the same way about Bernie mac too.

01:21:54
Speaker 12: And so.

01:21:57
Speaker 29: Friday came up and we were gonna raise the money and do it ourselves, but then new Line came in and said, you know, we want to give y all the money, co own it with y'all, and so we was like, cool, you know, because it was a struggle. It was a struggle to get the amount of money we needed to shoot it right. So we're happy to have, you know, shout out to Bob Shay you know, uh when the new line knew what they was doing.

01:22:24
Speaker 2: But but uh shout out to Bob Shay.

01:22:26
Speaker 9: And so.

01:22:29
Speaker 29: They come on and they say, I say, I don't want y'all do the movie because y'all gonna mess it up. Y'all don't know what y'all don't know what this is. This this is some hood ship that I don't see. Y'all mess up too many movies. They was like, we won't touch it, we won't touch it, just bring us the finished movie.

01:22:46
Speaker 2: Basic.

01:22:47
Speaker 29: He's like, okay, give us the money. So they said one thing though I had. I had Dj Pooh playing smoky me and him. It was like, you've been in movies, Cube, but who hasn't, So we need somebody to be smoky. We can get pull another part, but smoking is the most of the movie.

01:23:12
Speaker 2: We need it.

01:23:13
Speaker 29: How about Tommy Davison. I'm like, I like Tommy, but we gotta have somebody kind of unknown, Like you gotta believe he ain't nobody but smoking. I mean, I'm already ice Cube doing a comedy. You gotta believe I'm Craig. So we need somebody you don't know. So I was like, I know this kid, Chris Tucker, and everybody was like, who no, no, boom boom boom. I was like, y'all just put him in a fucking movie, y'all saying no, y'all put him in the house. Party three said, make get a dude audition. Fly him out here, Let's give him audition. And once we got on that, like we auditioned together, it was a rat like told you, told.

01:23:55
Speaker 8: You, but transition obviously you were able to make more fridays losing him, but then picking up Mike Epps is that.

01:24:05
Speaker 29: Like, Mike guess is my favorite person to work with because Mike is what you see is what you get it.

01:24:13
Speaker 2: It's no act.

01:24:14
Speaker 9: It's not like that's really him.

01:24:16
Speaker 29: It's not like he gotta be day day. I mean, it's like, damn, it's a real, walking, living dayda.

01:24:23
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

01:24:24
Speaker 29: So, you know, I wanted somebody to have. You know, you can't replace Chris Tucky, but I wanted somebody who was you know, crazy and fun and in his own right funny. And so we was lucky to get Mike and to have him buy into the series. And you know, I've done several movies with Mike and we did all about the Benjamin Jankie promoters, So you know, I hope to work with him my whole career.

01:24:56
Speaker 2: I hope we just do movies like like a cheating.

01:24:59
Speaker 8: Chong, like y'all got a nice dynamic, Welcome to the show, legendary teach very.

01:25:08
Speaker 12: Movies like Friday Have Baked, Howard and Kumar, all co classics. You have to feel like your pioneers and.

01:25:17
Speaker 30: That well, of course, and all those guys come up to us and tell us that everybody was in every one of those movies.

01:25:25
Speaker 31: Chris Tucker, you know, I met him.

01:25:27
Speaker 30: We used to you guys all the time, you know, you know, we we were big in the black community always because we grew up in the black community, you know, and other other communities, but black people really related to us.

01:25:44
Speaker 31: It wasn't just because of the weed. It's because we played that kind of music and the struggle too.

01:25:49
Speaker 32: And y'all and growing up in Calgary, it's really hard to be around black people.

01:25:54
Speaker 2: Both of them.

01:26:01
Speaker 9: There were like five families.

01:26:04
Speaker 11: And I swear to God, you know.

01:26:06
Speaker 32: And then when I when I I started dancing Lindy hop, and of course my partner became this really good dancer, black girl, and she was the one that introduced me to the football player Tommy and and and then we had a show one time where Tommy her would dance and we'd play music, and you know, we did a floor show with that, you know. So so my introduction was more like schooling, you know, because it wasn't just I knew had black friends.

01:26:35
Speaker 2: Man, I had a I had.

01:26:38
Speaker 32: I got to the point where I got my own racist name. You know, Hey, chinaman, that's what Bob Marley says. That's what when we met Bob Marley. Yeah, it was in a dressing room with a smoke filled and all asodden. I hear, hey, chinamen say something funny.

01:26:57
Speaker 9: Man upset that on one of his friends. No, it was Bobby.

01:27:05
Speaker 1: Say something.

01:27:09
Speaker 31: Uh No, he was there on their own deal.

01:27:13
Speaker 9: But everybody else, you know, we had, we had no I got. You know, I earned my my uh stripes, my my prison sentence. I earned it, man, you know, I went through it.

01:27:27
Speaker 32: And that's why Motown, you know, when I see smoking smoking, it gives me big hugs man, because he knows that I was in that secret song writing little cadres that they have, you know, And I got in there. You know, when you get one of them Motown stars to record your song, you.

01:27:46
Speaker 31: Know everybody recorded, the Diana Ross, the Jermaine Jackson, Stefan your Mills, the Harletts. You know who the Heartlets are. The they were the backing group for Bette Middler, Bete Middler and the har Lets.

01:27:57
Speaker 11: And in that group was uh uh.

01:28:02
Speaker 31: Katie sagal Kiss from Married with Children, Linda Hart who's co starred with my girlfriend in Tin Cup, and the some the Norwegian or a Swedish girl. But they recorded and had to hit how does your Mama know about me?

01:28:19
Speaker 8: You guys obviously came out the gates with once you connected with a lot of success.

01:28:23
Speaker 9: You guys parted ways for a while.

01:28:25
Speaker 8: We don't have to get into that part, but I want to ask you guys as being able to come back together, what did you learn about yourself during your guys' time apart?

01:28:35
Speaker 9: Well, you can't make it in California with out of Mexican. I mean, I don't care what you're doing. I don't care what you're doing.

01:28:48
Speaker 31: And it took him that long to figure it out.

01:28:51
Speaker 32: And sometimes you say are you Mexican? And the guy will go Okay, say he's from Guatemala because there's there's racism amongst the clans to.

01:29:09
Speaker 9: It goes everywhere. Yeah, yeah, no, I uh.

01:29:14
Speaker 32: I appreciate the fact that we broke up long enough so that we could become individuals, you know, instead of just being you know, relying on someone there that's always there. You know, this way you have to do both parts yourself more or less. And I appreciate that and I respect it too, you know, I respect the.

01:29:41
Speaker 9: The the aloneness. Yeah, being able to stand on your loan, yeah, on your own. They come back together just makes it strong. Strong.

01:29:47
Speaker 30: It's like we you know, when we came back together, it was like we never left, right And it was like exaid, come down here and join me in this club in La Joya.

01:29:56
Speaker 31: They were you and so we were doing the club and I said, come on and just sit in with us.

01:30:01
Speaker 4: Okay.

01:30:01
Speaker 31: So, but they go on stage, they started in and then then then I don't know if you even announced it, and I just came through the audience.

01:30:08
Speaker 9: And God, remember, they went crazy.

01:30:11
Speaker 2: God said.

01:30:12
Speaker 31: And we never rehearsed, never even talked.

01:30:14
Speaker 9: About you guys, first time back together. Yeah, twenty years and.

01:30:19
Speaker 31: They just killed it.

01:30:21
Speaker 9: You know, it's okay, like you never left, like we never left.

01:30:25
Speaker 8: I've read at times, you guys would you do kind of have some conflict off the stage, but when you came together for your act, it was like no one would ever know. And what do you guys attribute that to just your willingness to get the job done or agreed?

01:30:40
Speaker 2: Agreed?

01:30:40
Speaker 31: I indulged.

01:30:42
Speaker 32: You know you're doing fine, dad, But you know what you could make of cheating? And so my son actually got us back together because we had a meeting and it didn't go that well.

01:30:53
Speaker 9: You know, we had an old argument came out. But then I text cheating.

01:30:58
Speaker 11: I said, you know, you said he hadn't seen you for a while.

01:31:02
Speaker 9: It was really nice seeing you.

01:31:03
Speaker 32: You know, two guys. We couldn't work things out. Well, my son intercepted my email and he wrote his own in my don't do anything anything. Let's get together and we can do this and everything else. And so then my son told me. He said, first of all, he said how to go with not so he's he's coming over. You're back together. It's happening. Then he told me what he did. I got your email, and I'm glad.

01:31:36
Speaker 9: He did tell you. Some in the world says thank you.

01:31:38
Speaker 8: Yeah, my ex wife got ahold of my emails one time and did some things she shouldn't have did.

01:31:43
Speaker 9: So luckily your guys worked out in a different way. Man. Welcome to the show, man, Tyrene, I appreciate my brother. Where do we start, man?

01:31:56
Speaker 2: I mean.

01:31:59
Speaker 21: I would describe John as a kindergarten teacher or a head start teacher. You know, when you when you when you when you drop your baby off and they're getting their first round of class, froom and education. He had the patients as a filmmaker to teach you and show you everything that has to do with acting.

01:32:35
Speaker 9: Did it for Cube, did it for.

01:32:38
Speaker 23: Two?

01:32:38
Speaker 21: I mean the list is thirty forty and it wasn't just the actors and that he put on the amount of camera operators. You know Ruth Carter who just won her second oscar. She was our stylist baby Boy, she was our stylist for Four Brothers Dope movie. She's designing and winning her second oscar for Black Panther.

01:33:04
Speaker 2: So John Singleton man, he.

01:33:06
Speaker 18: Came here.

01:33:09
Speaker 9: And God God used this man to change everything.

01:33:16
Speaker 21: Everything is different after he came and went, there's like all of us are still on Regina King, Regina Hall, Cuba Gooding Jr. Lawrence Fishburn, it's everybody's yeah, Neil Long producing writing something, and some executives that I mean, Bro, he's got like thirty different forty people that's in the academy that's able to vote for who she won an oscar.

01:33:49
Speaker 1: Bro.

01:33:49
Speaker 21: When I got to the set of Baby Boy, it was all black people in every category on the set, and then I went from Baby Boy to Too Fast, Too Furious, and because that was my introduction in Hollywood, I'm like steady, cam, lighting, grips, electron. All of these departments were all black people, and so he normalized. He's like, yo, if you're capable of doing the job, I'm not gonna exclude you. Because at the time everything about excluding us from all departments was very real. So when you the boss and you can put your people on that's very capable doing the job, I ain't on.

01:34:31
Speaker 2: Some niggas, You're like, look out, you ain't that good.

01:34:33
Speaker 21: But it's like he like, he's got there's some giants out here, you know that cut hair, do makeup, blah blah blah. So he just made sure that everybody in every Department was on. And then to go from that to my second movie, Too Fast, Too Furious, it was just like, wow, got it. He changed my life up him man, like I'm talking about I don't even I don't even understand.

01:35:03
Speaker 9: Why he had so much in mind for me.

01:35:06
Speaker 21: Man, Yo, you the one he used to always say, Man, you were mommy a park, man you, And I couldn't even process that because I think a park the way I think a park, uh, the way we all did here on the West Coast.

01:35:25
Speaker 2: But it was he just kept saying it.

01:35:28
Speaker 21: And then when I hung out with his mom's one time in North Carolina, me and my ex was about to divorce, mother of my first child, and she was the godmother to my first daughter, Sayla, And we went to her ranch for like two weeks, and she was a chainsmoker, and she said to me ten times.

01:35:52
Speaker 18: That I like, oh, did all these niggas running around here all trying to sound like my son look like my son? But you you the only one that really remind me of my son. And it's kind of scary. I know you didn't come here for that, but oh my god, you know. And and just like hearing that and.

01:36:13
Speaker 21: Then making the connection that of all the people that John could have casted, he said, you remind me of and I didn't have the acting chops to justify him putting me in baby boy. I was baby boy. I'm number one on the call. Shit, I wasn't number three, number four. It's your first acting role. We're not gonna make you to start, my nigga, pay your dues, and we're gonna give you a little walk on, see how you do, and then we'll give you a bigger role after. I was baby boy. And it was because he made the connection the park. Now I'm not po so before y'all niggas jump in my comics and shut up, goofy ass niggas, right, niggas.

01:36:53
Speaker 9: Shut up right? You know so yah? It was, it was, it was.

01:36:57
Speaker 21: It was really interesting man. And it's like his mom said, you vocal, you outspoken. You know, you got some panther energy on you. You speak up and speak out about real shit that matters. You ain't afraid of somebody saying we ain't go hire you because you're trying to speak up on some shit going on in the hood with police brutality, excessive force, and racism always been vocal and outspoken off top, and you know when you first get on in Hollywood, you know they're in jeopardy of putting somebody like me on, you know, because you know what you're gonna say and how irresponsible are you even though you knew to this? So yeah, man, it was wild. John Singleton is my forever hero man. That man changed my life forever, forever.

01:37:55
Speaker 12: Snoop Dogg. Yeah, how was working with him? And you have any funny stories? Been on set with him? He came out, he came here and I think he had the longest episode maybe of all the smoke he sat on there that same kind laid down and smoked for two hours and just told the stories. But you have any funny stories from him? Been on set?

01:38:13
Speaker 9: Uh? Fuck you for funny stories.

01:38:22
Speaker 21: I don't know if I have any funny stories, man. I mean when I'm around Snoop Nigga, I'm nervous. I'm star struck as a motherfucker. That's one of the big homies for real from the West. Like you know, I don't care. I mean we be on FaceTime and ship. He'll call me out, what's up, nephew?

01:38:43
Speaker 26: Oh?

01:38:43
Speaker 1: Ship?

01:38:45
Speaker 21: Like I'm still a regular you know, South Central lad before there was a marvel Our super heroes was them. They was doing ship that. It's like the end hollers, the girls, the parties, the pool parties, the smoking, the drinking, the life, the clicks to entorize to going to the concerts and seeing niggas sell out arenas. And we ain't had no idea what kind of money they was making, but shit, everything about what we was doing, beyond selling, banging, cripping and blooding.

01:39:25
Speaker 1: They created a you know, easy E.

01:39:29
Speaker 21: They was like, yo, you could rap, you could cause I guess at the time I was too young to know. Like everything about hip hop was on the East. So once once you know, easy E and too Short and all that shit started happening for the West, it became some other shit that you know in the hood be like, oh man, nigga, maybe we can get on some rap shit. And so yeah, man, I've done some legendary backyard parties at my crib. And every time, hey, Nigga'm gonna pull up on you, you know, I'd be like, and then he'll get out of his sprinter and I'm just like it's like I hear music, you know, like it's snoop man so that I ain't.

01:40:13
Speaker 9: Got no funnies though, I just be nervous around it.

01:40:15
Speaker 8: Speak to you, to speak to your legendary back backyard parties, back in my good back of my gold days.

01:40:23
Speaker 9: I didn't grab a couple of a handful of man Now, Yes, that's up, bro Racio, I know what, I know what you're capable of. Watch great, appreciate it.

01:40:36
Speaker 12: Man.

01:40:36
Speaker 4: We check.

01:40:40
Speaker 9: One of the dopest rolls on Snowfall.

01:40:43
Speaker 15: Man Boy.

01:40:45
Speaker 12: You just said tell us how you found out about how how you got the roller, man boy, and what you was doing when you found out you.

01:40:49
Speaker 9: Got the roll.

01:40:50
Speaker 1: I got the audition and it was like come in for Snowfall. And I got there and it was a room of people sitting around like this everybody, and I'm I'm kind of sizing up the room like these actors. And not to say that in a bad way, but it's like I'm really from that so not in LA but from my side. So I'm like, they not gonna understand the nuances that is, And this is me being I got a delusional sense of confidence right when it comes to some things. So I'm like cool, I go into the room, and it's like it's packed. Usually it's just like one cast director associate with the camera is the casting director, is the it's like two of them. It's the director, producers John Singleton all in the rooms lined up right in front of me.

01:41:37
Speaker 9: Well, this is it.

01:41:39
Speaker 1: Usually you get a couple of rounds and they tell you they like they get they tell you what they like, and they give your notes and then you finally see the director producer. It was all in one one scene. So I'm like, all right, cool, and I did my version of man Boy, and my version of man Boar is much like you see on the on the screen because I'm looking at it. I'm like a lot of times when it comes to like these dangerous characters, they want you to look dangerous. I can't look dangerous. If I go for that, I'm gonna lose off the bat, like you know.

01:42:10
Speaker 9: What I mean.

01:42:11
Speaker 2: I can't come in.

01:42:12
Speaker 1: Growling because but I'm also from I'm from that in a sense. Why I know, it don't matter what you look like. Like if you're trying to scare somebody, you really don't want to do what you say you're gonna do you warning them, versus if you want to do it, you inviting them in, so it's just a different energy. So I went in with that and they were like, uh yeah, let's just uh let's let's let's try it again. And this time the stakes are high, like these guys could kill you and you need to scare them off, all right, So I do a version of that whatever. I didn't give them vose versions. John Singingson had a little back and forth band and with me asking me where I was from, and it seemed like he was he was he was rocking with.

01:42:55
Speaker 2: Me, so I was like cool.

01:42:56
Speaker 1: I felt good about it because I was able to do my version of it, and then I gave him their version and THEMN. When I left, I got a call that they had me on hole, which means they like you, but they still trying to make a decision. I remember where I was at when I heard.

01:43:08
Speaker 9: I was on hole.

01:43:09
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know, getting some food or something, and then I don't even remember why I was that when I heard I got a call. But I just got to excite it because I knew I knew I had it in my bag. I was like, this is gonna be easy for me. But I also know what it could do for my perception because coming from Vine, people saw him as like the silly dude, the goofy dude, or safe and a lot of times people don't go from you know, it's hard to change your perception. So I got to go so far right that they were like, Okay, even if they meet me somewhere in the middle, they still gonna take me serious. And the great thing about this show is I got a few episodes to sell them because my first episode they weren't working with me still. They was calling me Braxton from from the Jamie.

01:43:53
Speaker 32: B.

01:43:54
Speaker 2: They was like, oh, they killed it show.

01:43:55
Speaker 1: They got this goofy nigga from Vine. This ain't gonna work.

01:43:57
Speaker 11: But by like it was.

01:44:00
Speaker 1: It was bad And Brackston did a movie where he played a gagster one time too, and it was me, I'm like, man, but three episodes in, I was able to sell most of the show.

01:44:11
Speaker 9: But you was a fan of the show before it even happened though, right, Yeah, yeah, I was.

01:44:15
Speaker 1: I was definitely a fan for the show. Funny enough, I auditioned for it out the gate, but I'm a't ready for it. I was my audition. I was nervous, like it won't Like the second time I audition, I was auditioning for Like Franklin, and the cast director was like, hold on to them sides as if she was gonna call me back. I ain't never heard back from you think I know. I seen it on TV, but I started watching it. I was like, yo, it's hard, like it's it's hard in the in the lead actor. I love actors. I love watching actors. I saw damn it. I'm like, oh, this Niak raw like he hard and I had like I had posted. I was watching the show and I was like, bro killing it and I added him and he hit me back. I was like, oh, I appreciate it.

01:44:55
Speaker 9: Man.

01:44:55
Speaker 1: I used to watch it, but I'm like, I appreciate it, bro. And I happened to run into him in London. I was in London around the same time I lied about that audition the basketball foot it, and I ran to him at a random party. I was like, Yo, that's crazy. It's it's like kind of synchronicity, you know what I mean. So when I got the audition, I felt like I was prepared for it. I knew the show, I knew the world. I knew what I wanted to do in it, so when I got a call, it was just like, all right, there's go time.

01:45:25
Speaker 12: Two questions, what does it take to get into the character man boy? And did you have any input on the way you dressed?

01:45:31
Speaker 9: Yeah? So appreciate it, Yeah yeah, dope boy fresh.

01:45:35
Speaker 1: So whenever it comes to wardrobe, I'm a stickler for wardrobe. Like I never go back and forth with anybody. I always get people their creative liberty to you know, to put their thoughts into stuff, and I kind of go for it. But when it comes to wardrobe, especially something that I feel like I'm familiar with, and even if I'm not, I'm gonna do the research. I'm gonna I'm gonna put my my I'm gonna be vocal about it because I think wardrobe is important because you seen me before you hear me. And if I'm supposed to be cool and I look like a lame, you ain't gonna believe nothing ourselve. So it's like if you believe if what somebody says just it's just said a lot about them, you know what I mean? You sell a story before before you even tell it about what you're wearing. So I was big on the wardrobe, so yeah, I had and put on that. And as far as getting into the character, it's just it was a ship for perspective mistakes for me. So every role I do is gonna be a version of me at some point in my life with different circumstances, you know what I mean. So, man, boy was it was kind of like a like that fairy tale if any kid that grew up in the hood, because of what's around you, you kind of got some type of ambitions to be like I could be that, especially the movies I watch growing up. It's only watched gangster movies. Like my favorite movie was Juice. I'm watching that when I'm like eight or not, you know what I mean, And I'm looking up to Bishop so Is and then just being said, what what you say?

01:47:02
Speaker 9: You didn'tet the Juice.

01:47:03
Speaker 1: See, and I ain't look at him. It's like I want to be him. I'm like, no, I want to do this, But I wouldn't have missed when I'm cha chasing Queue through the through the park this nigga s I was terrible. But yeah, and then just kind of being being around there growing up, I was very observant I'm like, these niggas moving like this, they should move like that. If I was to do this, I wouldn't get caught. And it's like a delusional confidence. But at the same time, I knew, like they still here. This ain't this is a deady it like, I ain't about to do that, Like and the last thing I ever wanted to be paranoid, So I never chose that life in a way, but in my mind, I'm like, I could do it, and I would really be like him, Like that's just my mindset, so be able to do snowfall. I'm like, this is my opportunity to really do that and to move how I feel like I wouldn't move, and yeah, just to change the ship. For perspective, it becomes fun at that point. Yeah, knew you that, So it's just like perspected, like, come on, man, I really know who you are. You a little nit what we're doing, how we're moving So uh.

01:48:13
Speaker 9: Yeah, your girls crack head talking to everybody off.

01:48:17
Speaker 1: Like so the only thing you got to do at that point is just figure out the dialect. And it's just living that space and the mannerisms because l a different and feelings. Uh, I think it got. I think the dialect got better throughout, and the mannerisms came kind of easy because I didn't watch enough movies. I didn't watch minutes, and it's it's such a it's a it's a period piece, so it's eighties, so it's.

01:48:48
Speaker 6: It's obvious.

01:48:49
Speaker 1: It's how you stand, it's how you walk. It's kind of common crum in the sense, but it works period. That stang from Grant like ran out final characters, and I play that game forever, so a lot of it's still kind of you know ingrained, but I definitely modeled a lot of my dialect off of what Franklin was doing. Yeah, and then also I'm from the South, and a lot of people in LA in the eighties they families migrated up from the South. So it still got that twin to it. If you listen to Snoop, he got a lot of that twin.

01:49:21
Speaker 9: Ye the older it's Snoop's birthday, by the way, Happy birthday.

01:49:24
Speaker 1: Oh shit, happy birthday.

01:49:26
Speaker 9: He came.

01:49:26
Speaker 1: He came to second a couple of times.

01:49:27
Speaker 9: Did he?

01:49:28
Speaker 32: Yeah?

01:49:28
Speaker 12: Yeah, So just say outside hanging out with the crew, outside being on camera, do man boy come out?

01:49:34
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a part of me. But at the same time, state saint is high. I ain't in the ain't in a drug game where somebody trying to kill me over the back. And also I'm a lot older than what Man Boy is too, So I definitely had dumb moments when I was a kid. When I was younger, you know what I mean, thinking you bulletproof, but you know, at my.

01:49:53
Speaker 12: Age norly like the character came around the homers of y'all joking, do you ever going to Man Boy character just bullshit with the homies?

01:50:00
Speaker 1: What like the dialect? Yeah, yeah, no, I don't touch it.

01:50:03
Speaker 9: I don't touch it. I was about saying, because.

01:50:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, niggas are probably climbing this nigga here.

01:50:13
Speaker 11: Who do you think you will?

01:50:15
Speaker 1: Nigga really thinks you to characters like yeah, I had to get that. Ain't even get niggas ammunition.

01:50:23
Speaker 9: Out of here. Man. Welcome to stage, Larry Johnson. That's the Space Jam picture. Oh space talked us about that?

01:50:38
Speaker 8: Yeah, what you mean, ain't gonna get into what talk to us about Space Jam and what what was that?

01:50:42
Speaker 12: What that was like?

01:50:44
Speaker 2: Can I tell y'all story? I hope y'all laughing then.

01:50:48
Speaker 9: What was that called right there?

01:50:49
Speaker 2: That was that was ladies and gentlemen. That was Michael. They built that because Mike, I think we was there a month a little over month. Mike was there the whole summer. So they built this like this is like like a gym for him to practice in and get down in. And it was better than some arenas bro the showers. This was unreal. And there was ball games every day. And you know a lot of cats in LA so they was coming down Reggie, you know.

01:51:14
Speaker 18: Uh.

01:51:14
Speaker 2: And and you guys, see what's my big guy name, Sean Bradley. If you show that picture, guess who I hung out with for a month. Money had Sean Bradley. Men, shun, guess up me. Muggs was hurt. Muggs was hurt. Muggs had just had knee surgery. Doing this whole if I don't know if y'all saw space, Yeah, doing this whole film. He was never walking. It's a scene where we was walking. They was pulling him on the trolley. He couldn't walk. They were pulling him on the Charleiy Mugs, So I couldn't hang out with Mugs. He was just he was in the room all the time. Me and Sean was kind of hanging out. Man, Sean Bradley, Yeah, good dude, good dude.

01:51:50
Speaker 9: What was it like though? I mean, that's that that movie that experience.

01:51:54
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, it's my story, this story. So I had a fade right, I had for everybody. Got a ball here, Muggs just got a regular cut. That's easy to do. And Pat, you know when you probably got to work a little bit, but don't work a little bit. Pack got it?

01:52:07
Speaker 9: What is that?

01:52:08
Speaker 2: What is that hot? What is that hot time?

01:52:12
Speaker 9: Pack?

01:52:12
Speaker 2: Got a hot time?

01:52:13
Speaker 9: But I had that's that Steve Hardy Before Steve Hardy put his.

01:52:17
Speaker 2: I had a blended fade right, and they had a tali in barber and I went there the first day. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, that's what he was. I went there the first day. I said, say, man, because they say you're gonna be here, and I said, can you do this? Oh, no problem, no problem, No brother. Up about five days he's later the same man, getting a little but can you do this to faded?

01:52:37
Speaker 9: No problem, no problem, no problem.

01:52:40
Speaker 2: About that tenth day when I went to get a cut, he started off with sizzles. He did all Silzars. I know I'm fucked up. I know I'm fucked like he was trying to fade me with Sizzles Brothers and I'm like, I know I'm fucking He got me turned away from the mirror and it was like ten minutes lady talking about I'm done. I turned round, had a bowl cut around my mother. This was a bowl, bro, I say, man, I ain't And I went to my trailer and Muggsy Muggs, little fucker ass. Muggsy carve it be cause they was waiting on me on set and Muggsy carry it there. He said, said, man be waiting on you, and he talked about her. The bust out laughing, right, I say, man, I ain't going it up. I ain't going it up. He said, all right, man. He went back there, told every last one of the motherfuckers that they came it. I ain't never seen you like a drug like this before. He was on the floor.

01:53:26
Speaker 12: He was.

01:53:29
Speaker 2: They was giving it to me and T. T. K. Carter. Anybody know him. He's one of the actors, man, he was. He was dudes on the He's one of the actors. They had about five or six actors. There are trying to teachers how to act in a short amount of time. But this dude TK Carter looked at me, said come on, LJ and took me to a barbershopper right down the street. And in fifteen minutes, dude blending me, yeah, brother, blending me.

01:53:55
Speaker 9: You fucked up for a minute.

01:53:56
Speaker 2: Though I ain't never seen Mike like that. I ain't never seen my can charge bart up like that. They was giving it to me all over my floor. I get your hands out of here.

01:54:08
Speaker 9: Something. When I was in college, he was younger than me, but he came to La And.

01:54:14
Speaker 12: In two thousand and four you started the Purpose Score with Chris Avis aka Captain American Scarlet Johansson. Yeah, the movies about kids that find out the way to cheat on the SAT is based on Young Stack.

01:54:31
Speaker 9: Can you talk about it? Yeah?

01:54:35
Speaker 26: I didn't even really want to do that movie, like to be real, but I didn't want to because, like I said, country boy, La is so busy and it's such a different world. Like soon as the seasons old with I was on the first thing smoking back home home to kind of get that that normal to sit in the yard play some spades, you know what I'm saying, just chill. So I had to go back to la to do the audition, you know what I'm saying. So my agent trying to get me to go back. He was like yes for this amount of money and so forth.

01:55:08
Speaker 20: And I'm like, yeah, I'm cool, I don't really want to do it.

01:55:11
Speaker 9: He was like, nah, you need to do it.

01:55:13
Speaker 20: He's a big producer, is a big fan of yours.

01:55:16
Speaker 2: He needs you to do it.

01:55:18
Speaker 26: So I flew back to La. I came and I just bullshit at the audition, like yeah, what you want? We read about this by the all right.

01:55:25
Speaker 9: And I'm out.

01:55:26
Speaker 26: He called you back a few hates later, like yeah, you got the part, and he was like, but you got to go to Vancouver for like a month and a half and shoot your part. So it's like it's gonna take my some away.

01:55:39
Speaker 9: So I flew to.

01:55:40
Speaker 26: Vancouver and stayed in Vancouver for about about a month and a half and I did the movie. Like when I was out there, Holly Berry was doing the movie. They was doing that was the first Jason Versus Freddy. They was doing that out there.

01:55:56
Speaker 9: A lot of.

01:55:57
Speaker 26: Production was out there, especially with her amount, and yeah, I pulled it off. Yeah, it gotta be the right role. Yeah, it gotta make sense, the right production, like you know, like that was paramount.

01:56:10
Speaker 20: It was first, like the red carpet was laid all the way out.

01:56:14
Speaker 26: They very professional, had a ball, you know what I'm saying with them with the scarlet was like the youngest one she was like, uh, she was like seventeen or sixteen or something like that.

01:56:27
Speaker 20: But Chris, uh, everybody else they was. They was cool, you know what I'm saying.

01:56:32
Speaker 9: And I was a I was big on.

01:56:36
Speaker 26: What was it, the Superman show, Marble, No, it wasn't Marvel. It was a small Ville. So the producer of Smallville was the producer of the movie, So you know, I was watching small Ville, so you know we related on that end. So it was it was real dope. You know, I'm glad I did it now because you know, my key is get to get a big kick out of it. Uh, other people get a kick out of it. We did Van Wilder.

01:57:07
Speaker 9: That was dope. We did right, Yeah, Yeah, we did Van Wilder too. That was dope.

01:57:13
Speaker 26: We did art lists. Uh, we did one on one with Kyle Pratt. You know what I'm saying that just being out here in l A. Like, everybody who picked us was like, yeah, I'm a big Clipper fan, so they asked us to come.

01:57:28
Speaker 9: And do it.

01:57:28
Speaker 8: I just remember every time I went to Fox Hills, some somehow I saw this nigga every time I went to Fox Hills.

01:57:33
Speaker 9: Just he was just happen to be in Fox Heals.

01:57:35
Speaker 26: Q we used to we used to mess with the shoe store because you know, they in there selling joints and me and Q are being there with some Jeordans that they don't got.

01:57:43
Speaker 9: Roo was in Fox Hills. Moms too was in Foxhi.

01:57:47
Speaker 26: Roop was in Fox Hills too, So you know you're definitely gonna get that good Walker.

01:57:51
Speaker 9: You know what I'm saying. Walker and the pro clubs walk the Pro Club, that.

01:57:55
Speaker 26: Good Walker and they had a spot up there. We used to eat it all the time, a little noodles the food courts. Yeah they scrave it up, yeah yeah, yeah, they.

01:58:06
Speaker 8: Used to and put it all and they can go all around the fryer and then they straighten your plate.

01:58:11
Speaker 9: Yeah that was I might still be there. Welcome to the show, johnsth Thank you, what young fell. What's happening? What's happening acting? Yeah? Man, I know you're good at it. Let me just tell you.

01:58:26
Speaker 33: I watched your show Here we Go, and that time you did that scene for who you called me?

01:58:33
Speaker 9: You told me I called you?

01:58:34
Speaker 2: I did you called me?

01:58:35
Speaker 9: That was?

01:58:36
Speaker 33: You have no idea that people go to acting class for five ten years and couldn't do what you did in that second.

01:58:44
Speaker 9: I'm telling it like that can't do it, dude.

01:58:48
Speaker 33: I've gone to auditions and I walked in and I'm looking and guys looking at me and looking around, and I'm like, oh man, I'm gonna get this, and then Terry Crews.

01:58:55
Speaker 2: Will walk in.

01:58:56
Speaker 33: I would walk out because I was Terry's gonna get there and he would get every single role.

01:59:01
Speaker 9: But I loved that.

01:59:03
Speaker 33: To me, that was the closest I got to basketball as that competition. Going to work with my acting coach, Ivana Chubbick, who was the greatest, work with her, get something and then go and do a piece, and whether I got it or not, I'm thinking, well I killed that one.

01:59:19
Speaker 9: They should have picked me.

01:59:20
Speaker 33: Like when I did Sneakarella, they told me it was Kevin Garnett and A Marie Startedmy and all these other people. I was like, you gotta be kidding me. I'm about to go and kill this piece. It took me like three days to work on it and then I just had to relax. But in acting, man, the cool thing about acting is you're playing a character. And I just heard Denzel Washington say that one time, and so I never walked in as John Sally, so I have no ego with the role. I remember they were talking about Will Smith playing in Six Degrees of Separate rac and Will said his biggest mistake was he didn't go.

02:00:07
Speaker 9: Full.

02:00:07
Speaker 33: He didn't do exactly as the strip said, because he was more worried about being Will Smith than the character. But then you run into Halle Barry and Monster Ball, who wasn't Halle Barry. She was the character. And when you give in to being the character, greatness that the great. You're right, the great stuff happens. Jamie Fox, like y'all have. Kevin hart On, I love Kevin Hart. Kevin hard is my favorite entertainer right now because he's doing more than just acting.

02:00:37
Speaker 12: He's being an entertainer and I love that about it. What has been your favorite role? Do you love playing yourself? While playing with Fletcher you played? I love playing Fletcher.

02:00:47
Speaker 33: So in LA's Finest with Gabrielle Union and Jessica Albert. I got to play Fletcher on LA's Finance I think seven times. So I love playing a character because I literally can take it as far as I want because it has nothing to do with me. And I tell anybody want to act be the character. When you and I did what was that show London? Yeah, on BT We don't remember the name of the show, but we sitting there something, yeah, the game and we were sitting there and you were like, we got notes. I was like, no, let's just will know when the camera's on when they tell us the cameras on us. Let's just act like something we heard or scene.

02:01:33
Speaker 9: And it's going in your brain.

02:01:34
Speaker 33: Just make sure you hit the marks and you watch and like you hear Jamie Fox sitting around talking about when they're on set and there's Leonardo DiCaprio and this Samuel Jackson and just watching guys go through there, A great movie to watch is Once upon a.

02:01:52
Speaker 9: Time in Hollywood. That is how this acting thing is.

02:01:56
Speaker 12: It's it's you want to get out and every time you watch it, you So I should have done it again.

02:02:00
Speaker 9: I should have done. I should have done this. I don't like that.

02:02:03
Speaker 33: So I go in my and if I know we're going to shoot it, and how many times we're going to shoot it, I know when the camera's over here, that's my POV. When the camera and I'm giving it to you every single time the way I want it to come out, and when I look back, like I love Sneakerrella because in my brain it's on Disney plus.

02:02:24
Speaker 9: Uh.

02:02:24
Speaker 33: In my brain, even though I was playing an X ball player, that's how I think the character would have acted.

02:02:31
Speaker 9: So it was easy.

02:02:32
Speaker 12: Somebody who's starting to act in like myself for other people, and they're actually for some advice, what would you What would you do.

02:02:40
Speaker 33: When you get on set when when it's your turn on set, that's your turn. When it's not your turn, watch, sit with the camera guys, sit with the focused pullers. Don't touch anybody, don't give anybody hugs, bounce everybody.

02:02:58
Speaker 12: That's a that's a hint for now. Just because a hug chick may have a bad day, he touched me wrong.

02:03:04
Speaker 33: Bound to everybody, Respect everybody, but literally know everybody's job. So like your cameramen here are terrible. But besides these horrible cameramen. There's some really good ones. Now we'll ask them questions like why is that a seventeen? Why is that thirty five? What's that one?

02:03:22
Speaker 9: Shooting?

02:03:24
Speaker 33: Danny de Vito, Man, it's been a friend of mine since I got to Hollywood. He let me come watch him direct and he had three cameras working at a time in a movie, which is they didn't do that a lot, and I had to watch him control all at peace. Then when I was shooting Eddie Whoopy Goldberg, we shot that in North Carolina. They watched the dailies that night before they sent them out. After shooting fourteen sixteen hours, they go back and watch what they shot. I went sat and watched them. They well, why are you watching dailies? I was like to see if I'm gonna get better as this movie goes on. And there's great writers. When the writers are sitting around and you see them in the writing room and you keep seeing the script change. Go in the writer's room, like ask them what they're thinking about because you might get more lines too, especially if they think they're writing for you, and this is how you would deliver it.

02:04:23
Speaker 9: The script is a living thing.

02:04:24
Speaker 12: You may have one line in the beginning of the movie, and if they see that you're a character, you might end up with way more lines.

02:04:32
Speaker 9: So it's competition too.

02:04:34
Speaker 33: Don't think it's not you competing against every other actor there, whether they want you to believe that or not.

02:04:40
Speaker 12: And this job is only an audition for your next job. You told me you got some stuff from me too, I do. I got a movie for you that I'm excited. And that's another thing. I always think movies. I love sports movies, but I like movies that literally take you out of what we're known to do. Just like like, that's why I love Kanye because he improved. He said, I can be a designer. I don't have to just be a rap star. I can be I can be a rock star and a designer.

02:05:10
Speaker 9: I like that piece. H mm hmm.