Ranking The 10 Young A-list Stars + Movie Review: Longlegs + Trailer Park: Gladiator 2
Mike and Kelsey talk about The Hollywood Reporter’s article on the 10 young A-list stars at the top of studios’ most-wanted lists today. Mike ranks each of the actors by who he thinks is the least to most in demand. Mike and Kelsey share what movies from each they have enjoyed, Kelsey pushes back on Mike’s ranking choices and they share more actors who snubbed by the list. In the Movie Review, Mike talks about Longlegs which is being called the scariest movie of the year. Mike weighs in on how it lives up to the hype, Nicolas Cage’s performance and how it managed to make him feel scared. In the Trailer Park, Mike breaks down Gladiator 2 that stars Pedro Pascal, Paul Mescal and Denzel Washington. The sequel picks up years after the original with Mescal portraying a grown-up Lucius, the nephew of Joaquin Phoenix's Commodus in the original. Mike talks about how the rhino scene was 20 years in the making and why surprisingly it doesn’t look like a cash grab.
New Episodes Every Monday!
Watch on YouTube: @MikeDeestro
Follow Mike on TikTok: @mikedeestro
Follow Mike on Instagram: @mikedeestro
Follow Mike on X: @mikedeestro
Follow Mike on Letterboxd: @mikedeestro
Email: MovieMikeD@gmail.com
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Available Results
Generated results are saved to the knowledge database for reuse and search.
Extract Knowledge
Pick what you want extracted first. Model, scope, and chapter options appear after a template is selected.
Transcript
00:00:00 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back to movie Mike's movie podcast. I am your host. Movie Mike joined this week with my wife and coast Kelsey. How are you. 00:00:06 Speaker 2: I'm good, I'm back another week. 00:00:08 Speaker 3: I did see some really nice comments on Instagram and TikTok that people enjoy when I'm on, So I would just like to see thank you, and please keep buttering at my ego and letting me know that you're like listening to be in here, because sometimes we get done and I'm like, I don't know if I would enjoy listening to that. 00:00:22 Speaker 1: I think welcome to being a podcaster. 00:00:25 Speaker 3: I think my friend Taylor and I always think that we should start a podcast because we think we're funny, but we're like, what. 00:00:30 Speaker 2: Would we even talk about? 00:00:31 Speaker 3: But I would also like to say, in reference to last week's episode, I got a text from my nana shout out no yeah, that I never thought that I would ever get from my grandmother, in which she enjoyed the part where we talked about the kinds of kindness and free the nip, and those were just words never thought I would read into text from my grandmother. 00:00:51 Speaker 2: So there's that. 00:00:53 Speaker 1: We'll see what happens in this week's episode, I think we're done talking about nipples. 00:00:56 Speaker 2: Though I think we're done, we might talk about Glenpell. 00:00:59 Speaker 1: I think we actually will, because we're gonna be talking about the top ten Young A List actors. They put out a list. I decided to rank them, and you are here to react to my ranking. 00:01:10 Speaker 2: I knew Clempal was coming here. 00:01:11 Speaker 1: You knew that's why you're here. 00:01:13 Speaker 2: No, you asked me to be on. 00:01:14 Speaker 1: In the movie review, I'll be talking about what is being described as the best horror movie of the year. 00:01:21 Speaker 2: Absolutely not. You're stepping out of that dance party to attend all you're seeing that. 00:01:26 Speaker 1: And then in the trailer park we'll be talking about Gladiator too, which I was actually quite surprised. And your relationship with the Gladiator. 00:01:35 Speaker 3: Movies is complicated one sorry, Mom and Dad. They didn't have a babysitter. One night when the original Gladiator came out, which was what. 00:01:43 Speaker 2: Like two thousand, two thousand and one, two thousand. 00:01:45 Speaker 3: And they had to take me with them and told me just to fall asleep. So at six years old, I did sit through Gladiator. I did fall asleep eventually, but I saw I saw. 00:01:54 Speaker 1: Enough, So that is what we're talking about this week. Thank you for being here, Thank you for being subscribed. Shout out to the Monday Morning Movie crew. And now let's talk movies. 00:02:03 Speaker 4: In a world where everyone and their mother has a podcast, one man stands to infiltrate the ears of listeners like never before in a movie podcast. 00:02:14 Speaker 1: A man with so much movie knowledge. He's basically like. 00:02:18 Speaker 4: A walking IMTB with glasses. 00:02:21 Speaker 1: From the Nashville Podcast Network. 00:02:23 Speaker 4: This is Movie Mikes Movie Podcasts. 00:02:27 Speaker 1: The Hollywood Reporter put out ten young A List stars that are said to be the most in demand. They are at the top of studio's most wanted list right now, and they put them out just here it is. Here's the entire list. They didn't rank them. I decided to rank them based on who I think is. I think they're all in demand, but I have somebody at ten who I think is the least in demand out of all these. And my number one is who I would say is the most in demand young Hollywood actor right now, which I do enjoy this new class. And if you look at the difference between the twenty twenties class and the twenty tens class, is I feel like all the actors that had their big break in the twenty tens were all in superhero movies. 00:03:09 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that was the biggest thing at the time. 00:03:10 Speaker 1: It's all your Chris Is, the Evans, the Chris Pratt, Chris Hemsworth, and they're all Avengers, which is. 00:03:16 Speaker 2: Nine Chris Pine as Star Trek. 00:03:19 Speaker 1: I mean, everybody is not just Marvel, but in DC like al Gado, Jason Momoa. They all had their big breaks in the twenty tens and they were either Marvel or DC. And now with people having superhero fatigue, I feel like that is kind of the resurgence of more indie films, which I think a lot of these actors actually got their start in. So it's it's gonna be different between how competitive it is between these actors and the class before it, because I don't think all these actors as that we're going to talk about are necessarily going after the same roles. So at number ten, who I put is a twenty eight year old Paul mescal and the way they describe him as the art house print, and I put him at ten just because of everybody on this list, he is the one that I wouldn't even say I'm a big fan of his work, and his movie After Sun probably had the most buzz out of all of his movies so far, and I just didn't really enjoy it. 00:04:14 Speaker 2: I really only know of Paul Meskellen pop culture context, like he dated Phoebe Bridgers. 00:04:19 Speaker 1: That is how I know him. He is Bamy Bridge's boyfriend. 00:04:21 Speaker 3: Also his friends with Joe Alwin and Andrew Scott and they had like a tortured man's group chat, which than people thought the whole tortured poet's apartment. And I won't get into the Taylor Swift floor of it all. 00:04:30 Speaker 1: I'm less of a fan of his movies more a fan of his style because GQ always puts him one Instagram. 00:04:37 Speaker 2: Does have great style. 00:04:37 Speaker 1: He has great like summer style, very laid back. But I feel like him as an actor hasn't really cut through to me yet. He hasn't had that one role. 00:04:45 Speaker 2: Couldn't tell you anything he's in. 00:04:46 Speaker 1: Yeah, I watched After Son without you because it's it's kind of depressing. I don't want to get too into it because I feel like that's a hard one to talk about without spoiling it. But it's really a slow burn and I feel that's what all of his roles have been so far up until what I'll talk about later is Gladiator too, And I'll just say now that I didn't think he had that in him. At number nine, I put Jacob Alordie and they describe him as the shy heart throb. He's twenty seven years old. I don't really get the shy heart throb. I mean he is like the heart throb to me. Yeah, he's tall, good looking. He's done some good movies. I liked him in Saltburn. He was good in Euphoria. 00:05:22 Speaker 2: So is it Priscilla is that thing? 00:05:24 Speaker 5: Yeah? 00:05:25 Speaker 1: He was Elvis and Priscilla. 00:05:26 Speaker 3: I have Elvis movie fatigue. I still kind of have a bad taste in my mouth from when he was like the Kissing Booth was so stupid. I hated those man. 00:05:32 Speaker 1: He's already dragging his Netflix roles. Probably won't work over there again, at least for the time being. 00:05:37 Speaker 2: So like that kind of docked some points. He doesn't really do it for me. I don't think. 00:05:41 Speaker 3: He's like the heart throb. I get it why he's called the heart throb thought, I'm. 00:05:45 Speaker 1: Like, mah, I just think for an actor, you can only rely on your good looks for so long. Yeah, and I think he's lucky to have gotten some pretty good roles like being on Euphoria, being able to play Elvis, and I think Saltburn kind of put him on that trajectory of becoming more of a household name. But I don't think he's there yet. I think people movie. I think people recognize him now, and when you are so good looking, people pay attention to you. But I think if he doesn't have that one major role in the next three or four years, I don't think he's gonna have the longevity that all these other actors are going to have. But at number eight, I put Anya Taylor Joy love her. They describe her as the John rac Queen. She is twenty eight. 00:06:24 Speaker 2: Years old, her style is phenomenal, and. 00:06:26 Speaker 1: She's been around for a while. The first movie I saw her in was a horror movie called The Witch, and she has done so many different types of movies, from horror to animated movies. She did The Queen's Gambit, which. 00:06:38 Speaker 2: Was Queen's Game but was so good had us all wanting. 00:06:40 Speaker 1: To play chess. It's not even a I mean it's not a movie, it's a mini series. But to me, that feels like a really long movie. 00:06:46 Speaker 2: We got not own a chruss up because of that mini series. 00:06:48 Speaker 1: We almost got one. Okay, we were like, let's start playing chess. 00:06:52 Speaker 2: I don't know how to play truss. 00:06:53 Speaker 1: I learned how to play back in the day. I could probably pick it up again. I'm not good at it. I just know how to play. But I really like Taylor Joy. She was although Furiosa, you didn't enjoy it. 00:07:05 Speaker 2: I just thought she wasn't in like the first hour, yeah. 00:07:08 Speaker 1: Because it was a lot more focused on the young young Furiosa. And then once she came into play, I felt the movie was much stronger without her in it. 00:07:17 Speaker 3: But then I was bored because an hour had already gone by and I was like, we still have an hour and a half of this movie. So the fact that she wasn't in it made me bored, and then I didn't enjoy the part she was in. She also is notable because she has such a unique like fashion sense and style. She's got like the milky white complexion, the very blonde hair. 00:07:34 Speaker 1: Very distinct. 00:07:35 Speaker 2: She's beautiful. 00:07:37 Speaker 3: She does like couldtoure very well, like I always see it like fashion week. 00:07:41 Speaker 2: I think she's on the cover of Vogue on the coffee table right now. 00:07:44 Speaker 3: Like she just I love her as an actress, and I also just like her. It's like a fashion icon. 00:07:47 Speaker 1: I think my favorite movie of hers so far is probably The Menu, and I think that's because that was so good. That was when we went into not having a whole lot of expectations and the journey you go through in that movie, all the ups and downs and just that level of shock and surprise. To make a movie about people going to a fancy restaurant and then being served as food and then all these crazy things start happening is bizarre in itself, and I feel like that's one movie that maybe when it came out back in twenty twenty two that people missed, but it is. I think it's still on Max. 00:08:17 Speaker 2: Go watch it. 00:08:17 Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't seen that movie by this point because even just looking at the poster, looking at the title of it, it's not the most enticing. 00:08:24 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, even though it is a movie about a restaurant, if you have a weak stomach. 00:08:27 Speaker 2: Maybe don't. Yeah, I'll give that warning. 00:08:30 Speaker 1: Movies about restaurants, TV shows about restaurants, like The Bear that just makes you anxious. 00:08:34 Speaker 3: Reminds me of that tweet that I saw that was like, ah, had a hard day. I think I'll sit down and watch FX's very calming show The Bear, which was satirical because The Bear is one of the most stressful television people. 00:08:45 Speaker 1: I haven't watched people yelling at each other, throwing things, spitting at each other. Oh, it's great. Moving on with the list, I put this person at number seven, Jenna Ortega. They describe her as the gen Z Obsession. She's only twenty one years old, which is wild to me. 00:09:01 Speaker 2: Why does that make me feel old? 00:09:03 Speaker 1: Out of all these she is the youngest. It's also the fact that she's been around for a while. 00:09:08 Speaker 2: Like she has done so much already. She had a. 00:09:10 Speaker 1: Small role in the MCU, so she is technically in the MCU very small role, but has been in the spotlight for a very long time. But I feel like in the last five years has really skyrocketed because of Wednesday. I really enjoyed her in the Scream movies, although she's not doing those anymore, but I feel like she is kind of cornered that gen Z horror market. 00:09:34 Speaker 3: Then she's gonna do beetlejuice. She's got like the what's the it's not like scary, spooky. 00:09:38 Speaker 2: Yeah, she has spooky. Market. 00:09:40 Speaker 1: People have described her as the new Scream Queen, although I don't feel like she's done anything well. She wasn't ex Yeah. I think she is like the modern day Scream Queen, kind of like Jamie Lee Curtis was back in the seventies and eighties. Like that's who we have now is Jenna Ortega, and I think it's really powerful to have somebody at her level to also have such a young audience, which I think is why the Scream movies did so well, because that was kind of reviving that franchise to a younger audience where you're not really making those movies anymore for the people who are the fans of the originals back in the nineties. You're trying to introduce those to a whole new audience who have never seen any of those movies. So I think that's why probably the older fans aren't really tuning into those movies, but they're not made for them anymore. They put Jitta Ortega, so young people go watch that, and I think that is the feeling I got when going to see those screen movies with her, it kind of felt like going to the movies on a Friday night back in the day again. And I really haven't had that feeling in a while. But I feel that she is gonna be around for a really long time, being only twenty one years old and already crushing it. 00:10:43 Speaker 3: Can't believe you're sly twenty one? Wow, and she was born in two thousand and three. 00:10:48 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's weird now that if we go buy alcohol, all they have to look at our idea is the one. 00:10:54 Speaker 2: Yeah, just the one, just the one. 00:10:55 Speaker 1: You're good, sir. 00:10:56 Speaker 2: That is wild. 00:10:57 Speaker 1: But I feel like at number seven is a good spot for her because at number six I have Florence Pugh, who the Hollywood Reporter lists her as the chameleon. She is twenty eight years old, which I feel is a great description of her. 00:11:10 Speaker 2: She's younger than me. All these people are younger than she. 00:11:12 Speaker 1: She seems not in a mean way, but she seems older. 00:11:15 Speaker 2: She's just very mature. She carries herself older. 00:11:18 Speaker 1: I hate the description she has an old soul, but when you see her in interviews, and also probably because she has been around for a while, I mean She's in one of my favorite movies, mid Soma, which does a fantastic job in It is a horror movie that I love and early on I recommend it to people, and it's one of those movies you either love or you hate. 00:11:37 Speaker 2: I read the Wikipedia synopsis of it. 00:11:38 Speaker 1: Most people hate it. But I like those types of movies, and she is just I feel like she is so dedicated to every role that she does. Oh absolutely, she is what I would call quoting community streets ahead of other actors. Is that I feel like she could take a mediocre role and make it so much better because of the level that she cares about. 00:11:59 Speaker 2: Roles range too. 00:12:01 Speaker 1: I mean, she's also done MCU movies. She was in Black Widow, which a lot of people didn't enjoy. 00:12:05 Speaker 2: I liked Black Widow a lot same. 00:12:07 Speaker 1: I think it's also because of the time it came out. 00:12:09 Speaker 2: It was like the first movie we saw back in theater, Pandemic. 00:12:12 Speaker 1: I haven't had a Marvel movie since End Gave. I was itching for one. We were coming off of having a new Marvel movie every few months. They were doing three year and they were all dominating. I feel that movie got robbed of the time they decided to finally put it out. Black Widow should have had her introduction back in the first phase of The Avengers. I think it would have made her entire character journey more impactful. So it kind of felt like, oh, they're gonna do kind of a prequel to her story. So were there some CGI and special effects things kind of off in that movie that were a little bit cringe worthy? Yeah, probably, But I think overall, finally getting to know Black widow story was entertaining to me. 00:12:52 Speaker 3: You know what, now we can compare it to the poster child for terrible superhero movies. 00:12:56 Speaker 2: Madam Web. 00:12:57 Speaker 1: It's better than Madam Web. 00:12:58 Speaker 2: Way better than Madam Web. So there you go. 00:13:00 Speaker 1: Because I watch Black Widow and unless I'm one of these mega nerds, which I'm saying this as a. 00:13:06 Speaker 2: Nerd, I was just gonna say. 00:13:07 Speaker 1: And also there are also these level of mega nerds that don't want to see anything with the female lead do well, which is weird. There's just this like weird kind of misogyny. Yes, that's what it is that they have of like every superhero needs to have these qualities, and all they do is describe qualities of male superheroes. They can't show any emo, Like, it's just weird that people will just hate on a movie because it's female led, and. 00:13:31 Speaker 2: People hate on a lot of things because it's female lad. 00:13:34 Speaker 1: Which I think that is enough to be a movie. That is probably a lot of reason why that movie got a lot of hate, why all the New Star Wars movies get a lot of hate. Anything with a female lead, some dudes are just going to have a problem with and that's annoying. Anyway, back to the list, at number five, Sydney Sweeney. 00:13:52 Speaker 2: I knew she was gonna be on this lite. 00:13:53 Speaker 1: Would they describe as the hustler? She is twenty six years old. 00:13:57 Speaker 2: Speaking of Madam Web, that should have been. 00:14:00 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she was a Madam Web and they describe her as the hustler. I feel like the only reason she took that role. 00:14:06 Speaker 2: What she said was to build a relationship with Sony. 00:14:08 Speaker 1: Exactly smart and in the last few roles that she's done Madam Webb, Immaculate and anyone but you, I feel like two of those were strategic forming relationship roles. Immaculate was good, yeah, probably the third act and it was greatly due to her performance. But I don't really see her doing more horror movies after that. It kind of felt like she was trying something out seeing if it worked, adding that onto a resume because you hadn't done a horror movie And probably also why she did Madam Webb because she wanted to do a superhero movie, because I feel like that's kind of like actors probably at one point, like once you do a superhero movie, you're totally tapped in if it does well. But I think she probably also got confused like Dakota Johnson's people did, and thought she was going to be in the MCU, which is entirely different, And if you don't know that going into it, then you're already setting yourself up for failure. But I I think describing her as the hustler is a great way to kind of represent that she is doing everything she can right now. 00:15:07 Speaker 3: It's like we're not even giving her enough credit for being like the businesswoman that she is. Like she's light years ahead in thinking longevity of her career. 00:15:15 Speaker 1: Because I think with anything now, you can't just be one thing. An actor really just can't rely on their acting skills alone, because if you look at just how they're being paid and how if you're doing Netflix or any other streamer movies, you're not getting any residuals. You're making less money from acting, so you have to have it at all. You have to do the other things and do the partnerships and really expand your entire brand more so than you could back in the nineties and two thousands. 00:15:42 Speaker 3: And Chelsea did White Lotus Euphoria like she's got the Max series down. 00:15:48 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a whole other thing. Is I feel like before you were looked at as being a better actor if you did movies, because that was like the gold standard. Now it really doesn't anymore. You can do movies, and sometimes TV shows are more coveted if they perform better. So it all comes down to I don't really think you have to look at yourself. Even though all these people I would consider movie stars, they could easily jump into a series and it doesn't look like, oh they're taking a step back because they're doing a TV show. I don't think that's the case anymore. So I think that also is a big part of why she's successful. Obviously built a big fan base with Euphoria, which, again, like we were talking about Jenna Ortega having that young gen Z audience already built into you, already wanting to follow you. I think that is great having on her resume. 00:16:34 Speaker 3: So she was also great when she hosted SNL. Forgot about that because they did the whole thing about like she and Glenn powerly leaned into like the rumors about them, and then she was like, my fiance is even here tonight and then they like pan over to Glenn Powe on the audience, which was so funny, and then playing into it was great. Yeah, I think she's incredibly smart, like above being talented as an actress, I think she's very like savvy. And she also got a lot of hate when she sat online that she couldn't pay her rent and then she was like, no, I don't think people understand like how difficult it is to be an actor actress, like break into this, like it's not not everything is a giant paycheck exactly. 00:17:11 Speaker 1: And I kind of had that same feeling when I saw her say that, But I also had to think about what point of her career that she was at. It was really just while she was still on Euphoria, and you think about how much you probably get paid for that show, which it's a HBO show that's not probably paying as high as some of the other TV shows. 00:17:29 Speaker 2: Or paying as some of the other leads. 00:17:31 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, you have a guy that's probably making bank above Sidney Sweeney because she's the name drawing it to the show. 00:17:37 Speaker 1: And I think overall, for a budget on that show, HBO doesn't really bring in mass ratings like a you know, a regular channel. 00:17:44 Speaker 3: Would, although we did, everyone did break HBO Max when we all tried to watch The Mary of East Town finale. 00:17:50 Speaker 1: That's true. And then you also have to consider you have to pay your agent, you have to pay your publicist. You have all these people, and by the time all that gets taken out, you're not making if you get paid even. 00:18:02 Speaker 2: Like yeah, it's like taking the lump sum of lottery. 00:18:04 Speaker 1: But then that's why you have to do all these other things. And then we were already kind of mentioning it. But at number four, I have Glenn Powell. 00:18:10 Speaker 2: Only at number four. 00:18:11 Speaker 1: I haven't met number four. I think the top three is I can't wait to hear the top three. Then I'll say this before I get into it, but number three is one that is not my favorite. But I feel that he is in the top three over Glenn Powell, but they describe Glenn Powell as the megawatt smile. And the interesting thing is he's thirty five, and out of everybody on this list, he is the oldest, and he's also been around a while. But I kind of feel like it's the best New Artist category at the Grammys, where sometimes you have people who have been around a while, but they finally put out a project or a song that gets a lot of attention and they are qualified for that category, even though it could be an artist already in their forties who has already been wildly successful in other areas. It almost takes that big look to really put people, Oh they're a thing now, we got to put him in this category even though he's thirty five. 00:19:01 Speaker 3: I don't feel like I can say anything else I have said in the past few weeks. 00:19:05 Speaker 1: Because he was even in the Dark Knight Rises, that scene. 00:19:08 Speaker 2: Where he was he was a banker, yeah street. 00:19:10 Speaker 1: Where Bain goes and puts his arm on him, and I'd forgot about that. So he has been acting for a really long time. He's had smaller roles, but also shows you how hard it is to break into be at that a list level. I do think it's interesting how they describe him as the megawatt smile, which I didn't really think about until I went to go and. 00:19:28 Speaker 2: He watched his Twisters press tour. 00:19:31 Speaker 1: It never really set in with me that that's kind of his distinct thing of like his big, like welcoming grin, because it's. 00:19:37 Speaker 3: Very much like Matthew McConaughey and the like homegrown Texas, like southern like he very much emulates that. 00:19:44 Speaker 1: You think Matthew McConaughey is a little intimidated by him, or he just kind of accepts that there's gonna be somebody newer. 00:19:51 Speaker 3: I think they vibe they did a vanity fair. It's like a not an actor's on actors, but like an article where McConaughey interviewed. 00:19:59 Speaker 1: Because there's just so many parallels between the two there are. 00:20:02 Speaker 3: But I also feel like McConaughey is kind of he just does his own thing, doesn't care. 00:20:06 Speaker 2: He doesn't care. 00:20:07 Speaker 3: I saw him once at a Texas football game. He was with this kid getting a snow cone, and people were like following him, and I felt really bad because his kid looked really scared. Oh and I was like, that's a like line, like his kid was literally just trying to get his kid was like four at the time, and people were just swarming him. And I was like, when they have their like small children, like that's off limits. 00:20:25 Speaker 1: That is Yeah, that is like he he's the type. 00:20:27 Speaker 3: Of person that if you see him anywhere else in Austin, he will say hi, smile, Like even anywhere else with like the stadium, he's by himself, but like kids back off. 00:20:34 Speaker 1: Yeah, well at number three, you're not gonna like this one. But I feel like this is a perfect slot for him. It is Austin Butler. 00:20:42 Speaker 2: Oh, I knew it. For the Hollywood Reporter knew it. 00:20:45 Speaker 1: Described as the Golden Boy. He is thirty two years old. And the reason I put him above Glenn Powell is because of Elvis Oh. I think that role, even though you had their love or hate, it put him on an entire hirely different level. And I think the people in the top three have that one defining role. 00:21:05 Speaker 3: But here's the thing, and I feel like I have found myself being an Austin Butler hater lately, and I don't mean to be, but it's like his projects after that, like Masters of Air. We gave up watching that, and I thought I was gonna be so excited. World War two planes, Austin Butler, great cast. What's that other guy's name? Callum Turner one dating Duelipa do people? I thought it was gonna be great, didn't like that bike Riders? Like he just I feel like it's that curse of like you get a great role and then you are type cast. 00:21:35 Speaker 2: Is that forever? 00:21:36 Speaker 1: I will say, I think those two examples you had after that are for an entirely different audience, and we are just not in that audience because I think I could see Grandma's loving him. 00:21:49 Speaker 2: What grandma's are going to see bike Riders? 00:21:51 Speaker 1: I think Masters of the Air was probably more for an older audience. 00:21:54 Speaker 3: What grandma's have Apple TV? Well, my grandparents running have nets. 00:21:58 Speaker 1: I see more Grandma's being into Masters of the Air, and then I see like an older guy being into bike riders. 00:22:05 Speaker 2: You're calling me and grandma for like king on my World War two books? 00:22:08 Speaker 5: Well, the time period, the time period I've taken yourself into a different audience, so I could see him kind of appealing to that more than say like a Janet ortego Who's that's. 00:22:19 Speaker 3: Honestly insulting to his career, though, like I don't, you're not building a case for him at number three. You just said Grandma's with like his performance and older dudes in a byte gang. 00:22:28 Speaker 1: You know how successful the TV show NCIS is that has a much older audience. 00:22:34 Speaker 2: I forget that that show is still around blue Bloods. 00:22:36 Speaker 1: I feel like sometimes, like even talking about movies, talking about TV shows, we focus on the things that we like and also coincide with the things that are popular on you know, on social media, people talk about the most right, those aren't always the most watched me going to see long Legs. Not everybody's going to see that, They're going to see Despicable Me before. So it's those things that we reach a much wider audience, like the NCIS is the Blue Bloods. Stop thinking about and people hate when I bring up that reference because some people love it. I know some people love it. 00:23:08 Speaker 3: Watched the first few seasons of Blue Bloods when I lived at home because my mom watched it. 00:23:12 Speaker 2: Pretty good show. 00:23:14 Speaker 1: So I think if you were trying to reach the biggest audience in Middle America, I feel like Austin Butler is going to take roles that speak to that more. He's gonna land more in if he takes the right roles in the level of like a Tom Hanks. I'm not comparing him to Tom Hanks, but as far as doing roles that everybody can does. 00:23:35 Speaker 2: He have upcoming projects, I'm gonna look that up. 00:23:38 Speaker 1: He's not somebody that I'm fully in tune with everything that he does. Sometimes it's not until I see the trailer for it that I'm. 00:23:44 Speaker 3: Like, all, I give him another chance. He's the same age as you. Yeah, oh yeah, he was in Dune. Parduc also didn't like that one. 00:23:55 Speaker 1: But I thought he'd showed at least a different side in Dune two. 00:23:58 Speaker 2: Hannamontane. We did a lot of tea. 00:24:00 Speaker 1: Yeah, back when he's still talk like a normal human and now was old dog and like he's still talking like Elvis. 00:24:05 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't see. 00:24:06 Speaker 3: He has one thing coming out contemporary Western black comedy film. I don't even understand that genre is a twenty four I was. 00:24:16 Speaker 1: Gonna say, I think it was an a twenty four movie. 00:24:19 Speaker 3: Petter mescal INMM The Stone, Luke Grimes, Austin Butler, Okay. 00:24:22 Speaker 1: Because I think he can walk that line of doing the big blockbuster but also having that indie darling look where he could go do an a twenty four movie. I think he'd be pretty versatile, which I think all these actors can do and have already done. But at number two, I have Zendeiya, who is described by the Hollywood Reporter as the Unicorn. She is twenty seven years old. 00:24:44 Speaker 3: She's perfect, and she is absolutely perfect. She is she is just perfection. She has had such a long career already at twenty seven, from the Disney Channel to the Spider Man Euphoria Challengers like I'm Sinday's b I love her. 00:25:01 Speaker 1: Speaking of Euphoria, I don't think that's going to get another final season. 00:25:04 Speaker 2: I don't think they'll ever coming back, which is a. 00:25:06 Speaker 1: Bit of a bummer because of how good every single season that was and how just I feel like everybody who loved that show was just like they're watching the moment it came out. It was just such a moment there. 00:25:18 Speaker 3: Everyone's like gotten too big almost for them to film, especially with the strike last year. I feel like that pushed back filming and then everyone's taken on other projects. 00:25:27 Speaker 2: I feel that's gonna happen with Euphoria. 00:25:29 Speaker 1: Also with The Bear. Those people are getting so famous, and so. 00:25:32 Speaker 2: They already filmed season four. 00:25:33 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that could be. Hey, it's Mike popping in here. In between the time we recorded this episode and released it, Euphoria actually announced they're officially said to begin production in January twenty twenty five. All the main cast members are returning for a new season. So maybe I spoke it into existence. I'm glad to be wrong on this one because they looks like we're getting a new season of Euphoria. So just wanted to pop in here and give this update. Now back to the episode. 00:25:59 Speaker 3: I also don't see the need for shows to be so long anymore. Like I think, if you wrap a story up well, like if you for it doesn't come back at all, I'll be really sad because it did end on a cliffhanger. 00:26:08 Speaker 2: But like the Bear, if they wrap it up nicely, I don't. 00:26:11 Speaker 3: Think shows need twenty seasons like Gray's Anatomy, like we should have stopped that train eight seasons ago, like that went straight off the rails. So I think if things can be wrapped up nicely, not everything needs ten seasons. 00:26:22 Speaker 1: I mean back in the day, everything had to have not only a good amount of seasons. I felt like six was like the minimum, but also they were doing twenty four episode seasons and that doesn't happen anymore. 00:26:33 Speaker 2: I do love that when I'm binging the show. 00:26:34 Speaker 3: I'm currently binging The Resident on Netflix, and I love how many episodes are. 00:26:38 Speaker 2: Don't even mention how much I watched. Okay, I know you were about to let that number slip. Please do not. 00:26:45 Speaker 1: It's more than the number of Dragon Ball Super episodes that I've watched. Fine, and I've watched thirty three of those. 00:26:52 Speaker 2: Okay, really you had to put me on blast the. 00:26:54 Speaker 1: But mine are only twenty minutes, So maybe that's unfair. 00:26:57 Speaker 3: That's even worse because now you're saying that I watched forty five I've been an episode. 00:27:02 Speaker 2: Just stop talking. 00:27:03 Speaker 1: But yes, at number two is Zendaya at number one? Can you guess it? Tom Holland, No, I feel like he's the class before. 00:27:11 Speaker 2: Ok Can I have a hint? 00:27:13 Speaker 1: He's twenty eight years old. Hollywood Reporter describes him as the sure thing, so it's a het. 00:27:19 Speaker 3: Has he been in anything we watched recently? Yes, I feel like this was one of my Daily New York Times games. 00:27:24 Speaker 1: I think you can get this, Oh timmy, tim Timothy Shallomey, there you go, thank you. I think both him and Zendia at one and two. I think any major role is theirs to turn down. I feel like, if you have a big movie coming out, you need a big star. If it's male, you want Timothy Alime. If it's female, you want Zendia. And then if they say no, it goes on to everybody else. I feel like they can do anything they want, work with any director, play any character. Timothy shallome going to be Bob Dylan is probably awesome for him, only he could do that right now. Zendia could play anybody she wants him. 00:28:00 Speaker 3: Dating Kylie Jenner's really just still throwing me off together. Such an odd pairing. They are such a weird pairing to me. She's kids and he's like a theater kid. 00:28:09 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:28:10 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, it's a weird pairing to me. I also love his sister, Pauline. She's in the Sex Lives of College Girls on HBO. I think she's a great actress, so clearly the talent runs in the family. 00:28:20 Speaker 1: But he is also somebody that I feel I like both on and off screen. Even though him in the biggest fan of the Dune franchise, loved him in Wonka, loved Twonka, loved him in like the eight twenty four movies like Ladybird, so he's also done it all. He was great Little Women. 00:28:36 Speaker 2: He was so funny on SNL. 00:28:38 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's also great at comedy. 00:28:39 Speaker 2: Him and Pete Davidson I sing there like little rap song. 00:28:42 Speaker 1: It was Pete Davidson, right, yeah, Okay, So that was their list that I decided to rank. Some people I feel that were snabbed a little bit and maybe because they're just on the cusp of it. 00:28:52 Speaker 2: Ooh, I know one Iowa Debris. 00:28:54 Speaker 1: That's one of mine. Yep, yep. I feel like she's almost right there because of the bear she was just and inside out too. 00:29:01 Speaker 2: She's so funny and she. 00:29:03 Speaker 1: Was great in Bottoms. I feel like she needs that one big role to really break through. 00:29:07 Speaker 3: It's also in Theater Camp also great, one of our favorite indie movies of last year. 00:29:11 Speaker 1: So I think when she has that major role, she is I mean, she's gonna make a lot of money up inside out too. 00:29:17 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of someone do you have other people. 00:29:19 Speaker 1: In ideas Okay, hmmm, somebody else who I'll say, Neippo baby in a TV show. I love also have been a fan of her movies Mya Hawk, Maya Hawk. I thought she would be on the list, But. 00:29:31 Speaker 2: I very into her music recently too. Yeah, my howk Kick And I. 00:29:34 Speaker 1: Didn't really want to like it because I feel like I was like, now, she get into music too. I listened to it. Oh, I like this is fun. I listened to it a lot. I mean, with stranger things. I feel like she could be in that top ten. 00:29:44 Speaker 2: How could you not be so talented? Though, when your parents are Uma Thurman and Ethan Hawk. 00:29:48 Speaker 1: It's unfair to have that much talent. 00:29:50 Speaker 3: It's like you're just meant to be beautiful and like talented. 00:29:54 Speaker 1: Because not yet. Like you said, not only do you get the good looks from both of them. 00:29:58 Speaker 3: But they're also phenomen actors and you're just yeah, you just you grow up in that industry. 00:30:05 Speaker 1: Another one I have. I'm also in the same show as. 00:30:08 Speaker 2: Maahawk Millie Poppy Prown. 00:30:10 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like she is really trying to make her film career work. She's so young, she is really young. 00:30:16 Speaker 2: She is she's so young. 00:30:18 Speaker 1: I almost feel like she is experienced with Daisy, really experienced post star wars of you get these big roles offered to you and you take them because you are the star now that can have that first billing in a movie. But I feel like she hasn't picked the right roles yet. 00:30:35 Speaker 2: I love her and Bunjovie's son. They're so cute together. 00:30:38 Speaker 1: She did that Netflix movie Damsel, and I was like, what do you watch that? I started, it got about halfway through and I realized, like, I don't care where this movie goes. So I never really reviewed it or talked. 00:30:49 Speaker 3: About it in the same vein. I have one add to the list. What you got Joey King. I'm a big Joey King fan. 00:30:54 Speaker 1: Now where does that come from? 00:30:55 Speaker 3: She was great in The Kissing Booth Okay, loved her in a Family Affair. 00:30:59 Speaker 1: She was also in The Dark Night Ride, which Powell. 00:31:01 Speaker 2: And she did. We Were the Lucky Ones on Hulu, which was based on a book. 00:31:05 Speaker 1: Ah. 00:31:05 Speaker 3: Yes, I think she's I mean her range is incredible. She could do a Netflix rom com. She did traditional rom com where she wasn't the main rom colm. She wasn't the main character and then to do like a historical drama like that. 00:31:17 Speaker 2: I just think she's great. 00:31:18 Speaker 1: When I almost added on the list, even though they've been around a while, I feel like they are the hottest now that they've ever been, but are older. Pedro Pascal. 00:31:26 Speaker 2: I was gonna say Jeremy Allen White too. I thought you were gonna because also the Bear. 00:31:29 Speaker 3: Shameless, but I feel like the Bear he wasn't doing Colvin Klein ads, but when he was on Shameless. 00:31:34 Speaker 1: Iron Claw, Yeah, dang, I would should put them on my list too. And somebody who I feel is on the bubble is Margaret Quayley, Yes, I feel like and Joseph Quinn, who was also in Stranger Things in a Quiet Place day one. 00:31:47 Speaker 2: I didn't put it. 00:31:48 Speaker 3: I know you said he was in Stranger Things, but until I saw something like a clip of him, I was like, Oh, that's who he is. 00:31:54 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I loved him in Quiet Place. 00:31:55 Speaker 1: He's also gonna be in Gladiator too, so he could be up there too. But that is the list. I feel pretty good about that. 00:32:02 Speaker 2: I feel good about like some Frost from Baller. 00:32:04 Speaker 1: I know I knew you weren't gonna like that. Well, come back I'll give my review of Long Legs, and in the trailer park we'll talk more about well gladiit or two. Let's get into it now, a spoiler free movie review of Long Legs. Long Legs has been described as the scariest movie of the year. I think for the most part that is self proclaimed. But they used it in every single poster and trailer, and I think they did a fantastic job marketing this movie. It reminded me of Oreo back in the day marketing themselves as America's favorite cookie proof they weren't well. I guess they got sued or somebody said they couldn't use that, But I think it's a great way to market the movie. There are some pros and constant that. The pro is you have people talking about it, buzzing about it, and that's what I had going into this movie. Didn't even look at any reviews online. But the people in my life started telling me about this movie who had seen it before me, and we're building that hype for me. So that's the pro. You have people talking about it, is it gonna live up to that title the scariest movie of the year. The con is you're gonna have people say scariest movie of the year. I'll go into that movie. It won't scare me. And you have like this wall around you going into it that you already think in your head this is gonna be scary. So I'm not gonna let it scare me. So what this movie did was build that hype. And those first people who went to go watch it and started raving about it and like, I will tell you about it now, are gonna build this hype for this movie because it is that good. But the problem is that people who go watch it on the second week, third week later on streaming are gonna hear that hype and then say, wasn't that scary? Everybody over hyped it. That is just what happens with a good movie like this, and over hyped movie doesn't mean that it's bad. It just means that it was probably so good that people were raving about it, people were wanting to tell other people to go see this movie. So there's no way you can live up to that expectation. But for me, was it the scariest movie of the year. I am going to say yes. I loved everything about Long Legs, and I don't want to Obviously, I never spoil anything on this podcast. I don't really talk past the first act, but there are details in this movie that I don't even feel would be spoilers, but I won't even get into them because this is one of those movies that and even the smallest details feel like really big things that you discover. So there are things I could tell you about the characters that I loved, but I don't want to get into it because I want you to see this if you're a horror fan and experience it for yourself without knowing a whole lot about the plot, because I really didn't know too much about it. And here's what the actual description of the movie is. In a pursuit of a serial killer, an FBI agent uncovers a series of occult clues that she must solve to end a terrifying killing spree. A longer description is FBI agent Lee Harker, who was one of my favorite horror leads in a really long time, because horror movies like this tend to have a female lead, but sometimes they're always written the same way. What I loved about Lee Harker in this movie, played by Michael Munroe, is that she had a different personality. She was a little bit socially awkward, very introverted. She's an FBI agent, so obviously she's very smart and has a passion for law enforcement obviously to get to that level, But she was so unlike any other lead I've seen in a horror movie like this that I just felt like her character was refreshing and it wasn't the same thing over and over. So she has this gift that they talk about early in the movie where they either think she is psychic or just has a really good intuition when it comes to solving crimes. So she gets put onto this case of the long Legs Killer, who has this really weird calling card that they leave letters at the murders with these encrypted symbols that she later has to try and figure out. So that's the first part of her tackling this case. So it kind of reminded me of Zodiac, which is a great David Fincher movie. And I would say the first act of this movie very much just felt like a true crime movie where there were some horror elements. It really leaned into the sounds, which a couple weeks ago in the trailer park where I started talking about this movie, I showcased the very haunting sounds in the movie, and I think that is really what it leaned into very early on, where it let your mind kind of go crazy because it didn't really show you a whole lot, but just building this tension through these really big shots with the character just right there in the center, these slow pans into this mysterious darkness, and just those sounds that allowed you sitting there in the theater to freak yourself out, not by showing you, but you in your mind thinking what could be there, what could be making these really crazy sounds. What this movie really did a good job was was setting that tone of terror, and how did they do that. So much of this movie takes place at night, and oftentimes Lee Harker, the agent, is always alone, so you always start to freak herse out because she's alone, nothing around her, She's hearing things, and everything is dark. So for the majority of this movie, the entire theater was dark. So I really feel like that helped overall with making me feel more and more scared as the movie went along. Sometimes I was wondering, like, why is she always alone? And why does she always have all the lights off. But that's just horror movies for you. So continuing on with the description of this movie, as the case takes complex turns unearthing evidence of the occult Harker to discovers a personal connection to the merciless killer, and the race to stop him before he claims the lives of another innocent family. So that is essentially the plot of the movie. And at an hour and thirty six minutes, the movie really wasted no time diving right into the story pretty upfront, giving you some disturbing images, and then really walking that line of giving you things building story, giving you scary things, building story, and even when you think that it starts to lose you just a little bit, it sucks you back in. And for me, when I go watch a horror movie like this, most times I can predict how the movie is going to end. The last movie that happened in was Smile. Within that first twenty minutes, I already knew exactly how that movie was going to end. They really built a lot of the scary moments through jump scares, which can feel a little bit cheap, but overall Smile was still a pretty good horror movie. But Long Legs is on an entirely different level. You can tell within the opening scene that it just feels different when it comes to the score of this movie, even when it comes to the graphics and the text, and how all the flashback scenes are framed differently, where normally the scene takes up the entire screen in the movie theater, but then these flashback scenes have like this little square has that home movie type from like back in the seventies and eighties, and even that on its own was just creepy in itself. Whenever the entire screen goes red and you have the black letters, it just really brings that energy to the movie. That paired with the excellent cinematography where I really loved how they framed the characters. They didn't feel the need to have, you know, big cinematic close ups. They would often frame Michah Moore in the middle almost bottom half of the screen and showed so much of the background, so really gave you this feeling of emptiness. You could kind of feel her anguish a little bit more when the scenes were framed that way. So I thought that was really great. So she did fantastic. It looked fantastic. The score was fantastic. But then you throw in Nicholas Cage as long Legs, who looks unrecognizable and is so freaky in this movie. I knew that it was Nicholas Cage because he is listed in the credits very front of the movie. They say Nicholas Cage has long legs. But while watching this movie, you could convince me that that was not Nicholas Cage because with this makeup he had on, this wig, the prosthetics they had on his face did not look like him whatsoever. And sometimes Nicholas Cage is a little bit hit or miss. I don't always think it's his performances. Sometimes I just feel like he doesn't pick the best roles. But if you put Nicholas Cage in a great role, especially in Horror, where all of his kookiness can really come out, that mixed with a great director, Nicholas Cage is a great actor. His performance really made the movie. Whenever his character was on screen, you could not look away. And that's really what happened. That was my experience because thirty minutes into this movie, I had to go pee, but I did not want to miss a single thing because it felt like every single scene was building up this story and I didn't want to miss a single second of it, so I held it for the entire time. Luckily, this movie is less than two hours, so didn't pee my pants. Os Perkins did a fantastic job as a director and left nothing on the table, which is always my biggest gripe when it comes to horror movies because I always feel like they want to set it up for a second one, they want to build a franchise. This one gave you everything and it felt like a very complete, twisted, dark fairy tale to you with hell kids at night to terrorize them. Go to sleep right now, or Long Legs is coming for you. And what makes this movie so polarizing is the lore created around Long Legs. And you wanted to know more about this character than giving you some detail but not giving you everything. It's the mystery behind it. You don't need to know every detail, you don't need to know the entire origin story. Just seeing this character is terrifying enough, and really the less you know, the more scary it is in your mind. Which I love horror movies that allow you to build that terror in your brain because where your imagination can go sometimes is even scarier than what they can show you on the screen. Another thing I picked out from the trailer of this movie that if you turn up your laptop or your phone brightness a little bit more, you see these little easter eggs of things hiding in the dark. In the movie. I paid attention to that because there are little flashes of sinister characters that create these little easter egg moments that blink and you miss it, but if you do see it, it scares as a crap out of you. So yes, it is the scariest horror movie of the year. But not only that, I think one of the best theater experiences I've had so far will probably make my top ten movies at the end of the year. A rare occurrence where my entire theater was silent throughout the entire movie. You could hear a pin drop in this theater because everybody was so tuned in wanting to see what was going to happen next. That rarely happens. I will say it's a different type of scary because I remember leaving the theater after watching The Conjuring for the first time, and I was a little bit freaked out to go Out to My Car. I probably had a nightmare that night, and that was the last movie to really scare me in theaters because of just the shock value of that movie. This one was a little bit different. It almost felt like this movie put me in a trance. While I was watching it, I was just not there. I was kind of observing my own body taken this film. But as soon as the movie was over, the credits rolled and I left the theater, it was like that trance went away. So yes, it is scary, but really, to me, it felt more cinis and unsettling, anxiety inducing, and a very rare thing for a movie to really ramp up at the end. I feel like they put a cinder block on the gas pedal and balls to the wall to close out this movie. There are like two or three things that I had a little bit of an issue with that I don't even want to reveal to you because I feel they lean on the spoiler side. So I feel like Long Legs is an almost perfect movie. I give it four point five out of five FBI agents. 00:44:39 Speaker 2: It's time to head down to movie mikes. 00:44:41 Speaker 1: Traylor, Paul Haho. I didn't expect to be this excited about Gladiator too, But I have to say, after watching the trailer, it looks amazing Ridley Scott pulling something out of his butt, and I think we all deserve it. Napoleon really let most of us down last year. So what Gladiator two is about is interesting because it's connected to the first one. It takes place years later, but now it follows the nephew of Joaquin Phoenix's character in the original, played by Paul mescal who we're talking about earlier, And I was saying in that segment how I didn't really feel like he was a list star worthy. Although he's shown a lot of great abilities as an actor, he hasn't really showed me a whole lot of range outside of that. But he is that Indie darling. But seeing him in this trailer being ferocious and it being a movie about rage and revenge, I was so pleasantly surprised, not only with his performance in this three minute trailer, but also the fact that dude looks ripped his arms I am jealous of. And I also didn't really know that about him. He almost seemed more like a Timothy shallow May type to me. But seeing how much he dedicated to getting his physique up for this movie, and looks the part, I feel like this movie is going to be firing on all cylinders. It looks to have that action. It looks like the movie that really Scott probably wanted to make twenty years ago, back in two thousand, when you really didn't have the same special effects. It was probably still too expensive. And now this movie makes sense, which is interesting to me because it is a period piece that takes place way back in the day, and to think that you need advanced technology to make a movie like that look really good is something that I really wouldn't expect from a movie. You think that it would be more of like the sci fi movies from the eighties that would be more benefited by technology. Now, I didn't really see that coming in a period piece, which happens to be one of my least favorite genres of movies, because I just feel like they're so drawn out the characters. There's so many names to remember, and I feel like it's always heavy on the dialogue and not so much on the action. But by the looks of this trailer and all the things you have coming out, I think it is going to be good. So before I get into more what I think about Gladiator too, he's just a little bit of the trailer. 00:47:12 Speaker 2: Ye arena turned slaves into gladiators and the gladiators into free men. 00:47:18 Speaker 1: You have something. I knew it from the start, then June lay a wage you should get so, like I said, he is playing the nephew of Joaquin Phoenix's character, So I feel like his story is gonna be much different than Russell Crowe's story in the original movie because he comes from noble beginnings, but yet we still find him in the arena fighting as a gladiator. So it looks like this movie is going to have him starting out living in North Africa. Then he's gonna have to come back to Rome, fight as a gladiator, gonna make some new enemies, gonna reunite with his mom. Movie is coming out on November twenty second. So in addition to Paul Mesk playing the lead in this movie, you also have Petro Pascal, who looks just so at home in this role. It reminds me of his time on Game of Thrones, which I think he does this type of period just really well. You also have Denzel Washington, who looks so unlike I've seen him in a very long time. I love Denzel Washington in a menacing role, give me his vibe when he did movies like Training Day. He looks vicious in this movie, and for his last couple of films that I feel really haven't been the right tone as far as what I want from Denzel Washington. Seeing him now in this trailer makes me think that he just needed a great director to work with, and I think, really Scott is going to be one to get a really great performance out of him, even though I feel like at this point in Denzel's career he's kind of like what Tom Brady was at the Buccaneers or even in The Patriots, where he's kind of calling his own shots. You don't really coach Denzel Washington on how to act. But I feel like with as many oscar as he has, as much of a legacy that he has in film, he's not really an actor that you're gonna give notes to at the end of the day. Ridley Scott really has an incredible range. His last movies include Napoleon, how Sagucci, The Last Duel, but he's also famous for movies like Thelma and Louise Alien Blade Runner, Blackhawk Down, and the Original Gladiator from the year two thousand is probably one of the most defining movies of the two thousands, although I do feel like it's one that I'm surprised as getting a sequel, And sometimes for the most part now people just get enraged by sequels. People tend to hate on franchises and Hollywood being unoriginal, and sometimes I get on that train. There are some instances that I feel are just mere cash grabs, and the reason we see these so much is because movies are going to bank on things that make money, what makes money, things that people are familiar with. That is why so many remakes get made, and also why so many remakes get promoted so much. So to all the people online saying that everything's a remake, nothing is original, you're probably only paying attention to the things being fed to you because they have the most money behind them. And yes, they're gonna bank on the sheer thing. They're gonna bank on things that have worked in the past, and they're gonna be familiar with and gonna get your butt into that seat. Because just by doing this podcast, I could name you ten original movies that came out in the last year that were all great, but all those people probably didn't go see So the original movies are there, they just aren't the ones you're having shoved down your throat. Have to seek out a little bit. But original movies are being made, and I do think there will be a rise in indie filmmaking in the next few years. But that being said, I don't feel like Gladiator is one of those cash grab movies. But I think the reason it is getting one now and that it makes sense is because one technology has advanced, and two I think the story is going to be different. Nothing about this trailer screams to me that it is forced and put together and just being put out to kind of go into the slate of all these movies coming out this year that are remakes from the eighties, nineties, and two thousands. This really feels like something really Scott wanted to do back twenty five years ago when he was working on Gladiator, which one of the things he included in this movie that's in the trailer is the rhino. He originally wanted to put that in Gladiator, but the technology with CGI just wasn't there. It was gonna be too expensive. But now more than twenty years later, he is finally getting that rhino and seeing it in the trailer is that moment that I feel like every good trailer has. When it comes to just big movies like this, you have that one moment that really sticks out to you that people are talking about, and it's when that rhino charges that Paul Mescal takes them out, the rhinos noses all bloody. That shows me that the stakes are gonna be even higher in this movie. The action is going to be more brutally violent, which I love and I think, like I mentioned earlier, rely Scott does really well. That was a major focal point in Napoleon, although I think it was used wasn't used the best, but it was there, it was bloody, it was shocking, So I think we'll have more of that in this movie. I feel like it's gonna have the tone of a Game of Thrones. But what really is going to make this movie go from being good to great is the story and hopefully the beats of this story set itself apart from the original, where it gives you some familiarity that we all felt when we watched that movie for the first time, but is able to give us something that we aren't expecting, which is something that sequels just miss out on because they want to do that same movie beat for beat that they did the first time. So we're all familiar with it. We all feel like we got a continuation of it. But I feel like they're already making it different by making them the nephew of Joaquin Phoenix's Sun. So I think therefore his entire hero journey is gonna go down a different road. And you can feel that in this trailer. You can feel him making more enemies. Will we get another thumbs down moment? We'll have to see again. This movie is coming out on November twenty second. 00:53:21 Speaker 4: Head that for is this week's edition of movie Line Tramer Bar. 00:53:25 Speaker 1: And that is gonna do it for another episode here of the podcast. But before I go, I got to give my listeners shout out oh the week. You can get one of these by commenting on my TikTok anything I post on Instagram or x or Facebook. You can always find all the links to my social media in the episode notes of this podcast. But pretty much I'm Mike ad Shro everywhere. This week's listener shout out comes to us from X. It is from Anthony who is on X at cntr RT. Not quite exactly sure what that spells, but Anthony wrote, you talk about superheroes destroying cities. Hancock with Will Smith touched on this a lot. Thanks for that, Andrew, because I forgot about Hancock, which was a superhero movie from back in two thousand and eight that was kind of before his time. I mean iron Man came out in two thousand and eight, So what that movie was about is Will Smith plays like a scruffy superhero who used to be a much better superhero, but now he's developed a bit of a drinking problem. He's still when he wants to help save people, but he's really sloppy. He'll take out a building, he'll still be rude to the person after he saves them, and then try least their own comes in. You have Jason Bateman trying to do pr forum and make him be a good guy and a better superhero. That movie really wasn't reviewed very well, but I enjoyed that movie and completely forgot about it. Yeah. Last week on our episode recapping all of our favorite and worst movies of June, I was just talking about how superheroes need to be held accountable for all their actions, and when they saved the city, they and end up destroying half the city. So thank you Anthony for that, and thank you right now for listening, for being subscribed, for telling a friend. Until next time, go out and watch good movies and I will talk to you later