Walter Masterson and MAGA Trolling 101

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Brief Recess.

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Speaker 2: I'm Michael Foot Melissa Albrand.

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Speaker 1: Today we're going to be talking about malaria pills, the movies we watched this past week. My favorite murder live show was Fierce. We're going to be talking about that one gay bar in Maine. You know who you are, and we have our favorite guest, Walter Masterson. It's on the show today, So stick around, sit your butt down. It's very mad, Max, I guess, or a little bit like a cranberry sauce, like a string of cranberry garland.

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Speaker 2: You just went in my purse.

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Speaker 1: I didn't go in your person. Person was wide open. It was a ma and but there was a tissue, as you said, you want a tissue. And I look over purses, open tissue sitting right on top.

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Speaker 2: But you went in it.

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Speaker 1: My mother raised me, right, I know, not to ever go in a woman's purse.

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Speaker 2: But you she written, I mean did she There was a This was.

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Speaker 1: Not this was not being any This wasn't breaking and entering.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you weren't digging in the bag, but you.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't rooting around.

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Speaker 3: Weren't rooting around, but you reached into my purse. So I want to tell you something. So, do you remember a couple of weeks ago, So after the podcast dropped and everybody, so I told my friends, I told my family, and you made the Haitian family group chat.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember this?

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Speaker 1: This has been the goal of my entire fund as well it should be because Okay, what people need to understand Melissa's phone it looks like like a cluster of grapes of all the fucking group chat she has. Like I'm not kidding, I don't think she has normal I don't think she has person one to one chats. It's it's all group chats.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, there's definitely because here's the thing. When you have a large extended family. I have a huge extended family. There's like the main group chat, and then they're like the subgroup chat, yes, right, because they're little offshoots. And then there's like there's like the talking shit group chats.

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Speaker 1: Like I was gonna say, there's got to be a group chat to talk about the.

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Speaker 2: About the wayward cousin or something.

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Speaker 1: If you're not in if you're in a group chat and you're not in the subgroup chat, it's because the subgroup chat is about well, I.

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Speaker 3: Am certain that there is also a subgroup chat right because I am.

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Speaker 2: There has to be.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a subgroup chat of like did you see Melissa's got that podcast with that white boy?

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Speaker 3: Or or you maybe, But I also think that there's like a subgroup chat about because I am I'm bossy. I'm bossy and opinionated. It's listen, you have to know who you And I'm also the I told you so cousin. But I'm also let the record reflect, fuck off is that I'm also the cousin that people tell their secrets to because they know what I want.

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Speaker 2: They know that I won't know anybody.

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Speaker 3: However, I will say, and I have a bone to pick with my brother and a lot of my cousins is they will tell me things in confidence and they will say, don't say anything to anybody.

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Speaker 1: I am laughing so hard because Melissa is that person for me. She knows all of my secrets. And I always say, I'm not saying this because I don't trust you. I'm saying this because I need to say it for myself. Please don't share this with anyone.

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Speaker 2: And I don't.

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Speaker 1: And but you get upset when I say you don't tell anyone.

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Speaker 2: You're like, uh, well, because have I ever.

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Speaker 1: No, But I still am saying it for me. It's for my guilt. It's soone. I'm at that at night in my sarcophagus at four in the morning and my eyes are still wide fucking open. I'm like, I know, Melissa's not going to say anything because I said something, right.

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Speaker 3: So, but the problem with my family is that they will tell me things and say don't say anything, and then when the thing comes out, like if like one of my cousins is pregnant, they just didn't want to.

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Speaker 2: Say anything to anybody.

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Speaker 3: They will say, oh, but Melissa new and then now my aunts, so mom is looking at me.

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Speaker 2: My brother went away.

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Speaker 3: When my brother was in college, he did study abroad in Molly and while he was there, he got malaria.

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Speaker 1: I did Molly and study abroad continue.

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Speaker 2: Did you really know? Oh? I was like, no, you couldn't have.

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Speaker 3: And he called me and he said this is like early two thousands, and he was just like, don't say anything. I'm okay, but I'm in the hospital and I have malaria. And I was like, oh my god, are you okay, yes, yes, yes, And he was like don't tell mom and dad.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 1: We have a rule in my family if anyone's in the hospital, Yeah, you have to tell my mother because whatever happened to you that landed you in the hospital, you'll be there an extra week because she'll fuck you up if you don't tell her that you're in the hospital. I'm seriou. It's like whatever, though, that was like the rule growing up. Yeah, if you are in the hospital, you have to call your mother, no matter even if it's the most embarrassing sex related thing, you have to call and tell her or else because she will mess she will rock your shite.

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Speaker 2: Tipsy, I love.

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Speaker 1: She's out there, she's out here, fan of the pod.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: But he gets home and then he says, while I was in MOLLI I got malaria.

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Speaker 2: But don't worry.

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Speaker 3: I told Melissa, and then my parents looking at me. This happens to me constantly. It is so enraging, Melissa. Melissa, you didn't tell me your son, my own son.

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Speaker 2: He told me to tell you.

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Speaker 1: When when I was traveling abroad and there was a malaria risk where I was going, it was possible that you could get malaria. It was a school trip and we all had to take the like preventative malaria.

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Speaker 2: Medication bad dreams. Did you know that? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So I was taking them and I was like, guys, this is fucking me up, like this is r yeah, like really messing with my life. And for some reason, I'm talking to my friend about it. And I had the medication with me and I was showing her and I was like, and the pills are huge, and I was just like describing it, and I was like, they only gave me like so many. I had been taking the pills you take when you get malaria. I had been.

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Speaker 2: You weren't preventeding. You were yourself that you did not.

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Speaker 1: Have malaria age sixteen. My doctor and probably my parents.

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Speaker 2: That's the doctor's problem.

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Speaker 1: And now they did. There's a big ice cream scoop out of my brain.

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Speaker 3: So anyway, so you you made the family group chat what I said, yea, And they were.

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Speaker 2: Like yeah, the tattis and the uncles and uncle and Tati Tatsy is.

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Speaker 3: Aunt and uncle is uncle. Remember a nice green shot at it. I'll give it to see I've been and you were no, no, no, but you your response to me was like, oh, this is going to be great because I am going to get all the Haitian vanilla.

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Speaker 1: Oh do you have some? Oh my god, sorry to.

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Speaker 3: The sound guy, I bequeath you, Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Perry essence of Vanilla. That's what they call me in the group chat, Essence of Vanilla. Michael, Oh my god, everyone's favorite blong screaming in the studio. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: Store for weeks and I've been waiting to give this time.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited because okay, so for Christmas, ear muffs everyone in the studio because you're getting this for Christmas. I make Panatoni and I need a lot of vanilla for it. My recipe calls for a lot, and I'm going to spend all next week and weekend baking. Oh my god. So okay, So backstory. For years, I want to say, like at least five years, Melissa has been her family has been maybe illegally importing vanilla from Haiti for me and what can only be described as an underground smuggling operation. But it does make my baked goods so much better. There's nothing like it. Ana, watch your.

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Speaker 2: Fucking back once you go Hayitian vanilla.

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Speaker 1: You know it is going to leave your ass for me.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so great, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to put directly in here. It's a baking.

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Speaker 2: It's a baking.

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Speaker 1: This is sidebar. This is where we sort of talk about all the weird things happening in court, things happening in the judiciary, things happening in our personal lives. Anything you want to talk about right now that's going on. I mean, court has been Court's been wild. We we were out on Thanksgiving break.

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Speaker 5: I can talk about that.

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Speaker 1: We could talk. I want to hear about your Thanksgiving Miss Cranberry necklace. But oh, this was fun. All the fucking clerks at the courthouse submitted their rejections right before four fifty nine pm on Wednesday night before Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: That was methodical and climbed out.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it was cruel and unusual punishment. Eighth Amendment violation.

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Speaker 2: Well is it really?

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Speaker 1: No? But okay, gay people were allowed to be a little dramatic.

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Speaker 5: It's a crutch.

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Speaker 2: Using it as a crutch.

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Speaker 1: I saw I saw the what is that the bird catch?

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Speaker 2: Which version?

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Speaker 1: William there's one you can see Robin Williams breaking in that show where he just like starts losing a ship, laughing like that movie. No, it's because you just don't like gay people, or do you want to go on the record, maybe straight to camera.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I didn't like about it.

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Speaker 3: What I didn't like about that movie was that the sun comes back and he's basically asking his dad to not be himself so that he can get in good with this senator.

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Speaker 1: The plot is.

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Speaker 2: That's what I didn't like about it. I was like, that's shitty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Took it too seriously, I suppose, but that was prob.

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Speaker 3: I was just like, what kind of a fucked up kid is that you're fucking ingreat like me while you're a straight mother.

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Speaker 1: Gone, just just hit the bricks. Yeah fo No. I get hung up on certain and things in movies where I'm like, we just watched Bogonia Bagunya. It's like it's got Emma Stone, said Watson. There is something about it that really was bugging me the whole movie, and I was like, I can't wait for this to be over so I can scream about it. And it was like it was sort of like the gender power dynamic, like we're sort of asked, is this woman sort of being held hostage? And I won't I won't reveal anything about it because it just came out, but she's sort of being held hostage and she's like a corporate CEO of a tech company. And it's very much like a tongue in cheek like jokey kind of movie. Okay, and like a lot of the punchlines and jokes. I was like, Oh, we're kind of being asked to laugh at a woman being held hostage, Like I don't love this, Like this makes me feel weird and I couldn't get past it and enjoy the movie because we don't take this seriously enough in society, women be held hostage, murdered, killed right like.

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Speaker 2: And now it's the punchline.

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Speaker 1: And it's It wasn't like the punchline, but the fact that she was such an abrasive, like uh, Elizabeth Holme ceo kind of type, that was very much what they were trying to go for this like tech ceo and how she was sort of like unflinching in the face of this hostage situation. I was like, we're being asked to sympathize a lot with like the hostage holder, Like we got his entire backstory, we got like why.

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Speaker 2: And all the reasons why this is justified.

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Speaker 1: And then it's her being like I'm a bitch, like I'm not nice about to my hostage holder, and like that was the joke. And I was like, okay, no, this is I don't like this. This was it was bothering.

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Speaker 5: That's right.

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Speaker 2: It's weird.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and there there are there are twists in the movie. I won't give them away, but I don't think the twists justified. I couldn't get over that. Maybe it's because I do work in the criminal laws space, or I'm on like my favorite murder network. We're like we're always talking about like women getting murdered, but right, and it's just yeah, it's I was just like I can't laugh at this, and like I don't really like the idea that people are being asked to that's even if they're cool laughing at it.

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Speaker 2: I was just like, yeah, that's okay to not like that.

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Speaker 1: We went to my favorite murder live, The King's.

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Speaker 2: It was so amazing.

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Speaker 3: It was so good and so you bought Brad. I bought Andre and my brother and sister in law. We had a great time, so fun, and I think it gave me like a perspective is to their fan base, which is these people are dedicated.

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Speaker 2: It was so cool, so so good.

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Speaker 1: It was like the colest part for me was like everyone's emotionally.

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Speaker 2: Following along very much said and.

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Speaker 1: Like a really committed yes way, and I was too. It was just it was just like very cool to watch the storytelling unfold. It was it was really nice.

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Speaker 5: It was really good.

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Speaker 2: I was so excited to be Partian.

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Speaker 1: And we were in a part of Brooklyn that Melissa described as the dark meat of the chicken.

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Speaker 2: Melissa did not say, yeah.

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Speaker 1: You were like, this is the thigh meyt. I was like, I've never been to this part of Brooklyn.

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Speaker 2: You know what I did say that.

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Speaker 1: I was like, I've never been to this part of Brooklyn before.

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Speaker 2: You're used you're used to, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: The Chickensham Park, Slow and over.

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Speaker 3: What's at that hisstory place, Williams Williamsburg used to being that.

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Speaker 1: I used to this closet.

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Speaker 3: I used to live over there. And I'll tell you when I lived in Flatbush, the King's Theater was.

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Speaker 2: Wooded up and it hadn't been renovated.

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Speaker 3: It was like on the chopping block, and I can't remember what happened, people were just like, you can't get rid of this theater and now it's like a site. Yeah, I've never met a man who loves himself more than you.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about. I've got six cameras on me right now and it's all my design.

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Speaker 2: You insisted. You were just like, where's the light?

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Speaker 1: Can we add another? I don't think we're.

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Speaker 2: Gonna be while.

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Speaker 3: The girl is like whatever, but you are like, I need more lights.

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Speaker 2: I need more lights.

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Speaker 1: Karen Kilgarv said something to me when I was having dinner with her. She was like, your tiktoks are really close up on your face.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, it is about an inch away when I'm filming. It started out a little further away.

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Speaker 2: And that's what this all began for you mine, you know.

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Speaker 1: What, I do want to take it through a quick genesis.

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Speaker 2: What happened, what was happening in the further way.

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Speaker 1: And then as I was filming on the street this, I was saying more and more and making more and more videos. So the camera got closer and closer to my face. As the more and more I was filming in crowded public streets, I couldn't be like out here like this and with a lot of people around me. So it just got it just got a lot closer.

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Speaker 2: I like what I see on behalf of the people.

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Speaker 1: We don't believe you, she said, we the people.

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Speaker 3: We the people don't believe you. This is about this is about you. I mean, listen, if nobody should love your face more than you.

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Speaker 1: You know what I had that little speech in middle school, yourself, love yourself. I really took it to heart.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think that we should take a book from the page of the lovely Anna Snap And Okay, Anna, who's always talking about self love?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god? Right, So I listened to her interview. She's and she really is. She's she's so great, but it really is. It is true. Wait, I didn't actually heard about your Thanksgiving. I'm sorry. I haven't seen Melissa in like many weeks.

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Speaker 2: I know my Thanksgiving was fine. I think we did too much.

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Speaker 3: Oh and I got to tell you, so my friends were coming for you a little bit.

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Speaker 2: And let me tell you why, because I accept the challenge because and I will and I will tell you exactly why. And I get it.

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Speaker 3: You went on al Gore and Beyonce Nohls's internet talking about how not stressful Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: I did not.

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Speaker 5: Oh.

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Speaker 1: I was like, what did I say about al Gore?

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Speaker 2: Got nothing? Nothing? Yeah, but you were out here on these internets.

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Speaker 1: It's not stressful. And I'm gonna double down. I don't find it stressful. Okay, what we're what were your friends saying?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 3: People, First of all, people will come sliding into my DM asking me about this Michael person, where do you even fucking know this guy from?

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Speaker 2: And I will also say that what did you make for Thanksgiving this year?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 3: So wait, because that's the problem.

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Speaker 2: We're not stressful. It's not stressful. You weren't hosted for me. You made mashed potatoes, Michael.

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Speaker 1: So I went out to a drag show the night before because it was thanks Thanksgiving eve.

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Speaker 2: A choice was made and I was.

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Speaker 1: Up in Portland main where the gay bars are a little bit. There's there's just a lot happening there.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot happening there, or not enough happening there.

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Speaker 1: How do I say this? Like, culturally, the gay scene in Maine is like very different from New York. I would say New York. It's like there was a crust to the gay bars. There was a certain genes qua to.

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Speaker 2: The uh uh it was.

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Speaker 1: The gay bars in the gay I want to say bars, it's one, it's one bar. It was a little bit more of a die bar than I think I'm used to trying to It was that the drinks were made with pane and demarole. So what I'm saying is the next day I was a little under the weather for Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: We don't care.

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Speaker 1: So we got home from the bar. Brad's asleep on the sofa. I am now experiencing the polyurethane, the demarole, trying to prep the food that I have that I've promised everyone I was.

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Speaker 2: Going to bring the next day, mashed potatoes.

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Speaker 1: I'm mashing. I'm trying to mash potatoes and abriated. I had to make two pies, and I like with crust. I had made the crust previously. I mean, how Roman stuffing, Alison Roman girlies? You know who you are, Okay? And I also made something else that I was too drunk to remember, so I think it was so sweet? Was it savory?

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter, It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: So the next day we were so tired, We're driving to my aunts my Auntie's hat.

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Speaker 2: I need you to stop. I need you to stop. Nobody cares.

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Speaker 1: I made like four or five things right.

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Speaker 3: But I think what what the people are feeling is that for somebody who's not hosting people, the people people you weren't hosting when you host we hosted this weekend.

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Speaker 2: You were invited, he was invited.

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Speaker 3: He was invited and opted not to come, which is fine, but again, choices are being made.

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Speaker 2: And I was very stressed out.

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Speaker 1: I called you to like shoot the ship while you were in the middle of hosting a party that I have been invited.

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Speaker 3: And you said no, which is I was like, what's listener today, I'm gonna call her.

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Speaker 2: I was like, I don't have time for you.

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Speaker 1: It's like, what's going on? And you answered and you were you were entertaining it. And then two minutes and you were like, you know, I'm hosting that party that I literally fucking invited your ass to and you didn't. You said you could have come.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: But like when you are hosting people, you are stressed out. And I will say that there is not a time where I have hosted where Andre does not tell me to go get take a xanax and.

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Speaker 2: That do you No, I don't.

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Speaker 1: You don't do you don't do aware of my Dolly's moment, just pop in a sandy bar and well, I wouldn't be able.

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Speaker 2: To do anything. Yeah, no, I can't. You co wouldn't be able to like I am be able to function.

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Speaker 1: Oh I can. I can panic my way clear through a Klana pin. No, I can't easily.

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Speaker 2: No, I can't do that.

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Speaker 1: I took a. Well, we should probably talk about the headlines.

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Speaker 3: A little bit, right and we haven't talked about my Thanksgiving, but it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: Talk about taking a Let's talk about what's going on in the news right now. Okay, this is your algorithm is show, and we're going to talk about what's going on on in the headlines. We're going to be talking about what's happening right now, Diva boots on the ground, what's happening on your phone, what's popping up on the notifications? Today was all about the ice block app. For me, I couldn't get honestly, couldn't get away from it. Basically what happened was like there was this app. It was sort of like you could report ice presence in your neighborhood. We talked to Robert Garcia about this a little bit. He's doing something similar, but like on the congressional level. But you could report like ICE activity. You know, I'm on such and such a corner in Queen's this is what's going on. And you could sign up for it as a user and then be aware of where ICE is in your neighborhood. And basically what happened was the Trump administration. Pam Bondi pressured Apple to take it out of the Apple store because it was interfering with their and.

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Speaker 2: They did, and they're folding. People are full. I feel like.

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Speaker 1: And Apple did it. I think they capitulated instantly. I don't even think there was like public discourse, just.

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Speaker 2: Folding like a cheap suit, like a wet paper bag.

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Speaker 1: Yep, yep. I don't have to come for my suit like that.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, but see you a lot.

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Speaker 1: And so now there's a lawsuit. Ice Block is suing the government. Get a girl, And Pam Bondi admitted she was like, yeah, I did it, She like admitted it in the press briefing.

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Speaker 3: Well they don't, okay, they no longer care, right right, they no longer care I mean, I keep on thinking about the President sitting there and saying Somali people are garbage and doubling down on that stuff, like there is no good send decorum, nothing has left. Yes, we are out here raw dogging it and it's it's no, I mean, it's really.

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Speaker 1: It's true.

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Speaker 2: No, it's true, fans lube just out here.

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Speaker 1: It is. And it's crazy because we're admitting to things that are now going to be used in court. Like when we talked to Rubert Garcia, he talked about this a lot of just like we're papering the record, like we're filling up the record of what we're gonna then sue for later. And that's what Iceblock is doing. They're taking Pam Bondi's statement and it's right there, it's quoted directly in the lawsuit.

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Speaker 3: But I think they don't care because so far they're they have been able to get away with it, right, and they think that we can do whatever we want.

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Speaker 1: We own this, yes exactly, and like you know we've got we'll just we'll just get pardoned later. George Santo's style that I mess, I know, mess it is, it is getting it's.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's also just you know, I am I'm embarrassed. Yeah, right, I'm embarrassed. I'm yes, I'm anxious. Yes I'm angry. But also there's a lot of like headholding.

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Speaker 2: Like what is going on?

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Speaker 3: Where are we? Why is this happening? Yeah? And I mean and I think this is something I know. We keep on sort of circling around this but trying to figure out, well, what am I supposed to do?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: So, like I was really hopeful about this ice block app right because I want to know when ice is in my neighborhood or near my workplace or even just where I happen to be.

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Speaker 2: Because I want to help, right, I want to help.

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Speaker 3: I want to be sort of the town crier because I that I those are the.

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Speaker 2: Things that I know that I can do.

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Speaker 1: Right, we can go through right now, I could do a checklist of what you can do. You could be that, you could be the town crier. Yeah, you just can't obstruct justice. So like that's a very subjective thing. But like so if the so if okay, wait.

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Speaker 3: Wait, wait hold on, But I think what I think would be really helpful is what does that look like?

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Speaker 2: What does it look like by obstruct justice?

00:23:40
Speaker 1: So ice is chasing some migrants in your neighborhood. Your home door happens to be open and they run inside. You can't like be like, guys, get in here, like I'm going to help. You have to be. There has to be a sort of if your door is open and they happen to go inside, and you happen to close it after, then you can deny the entry. You can say this is my private home. You need to have assigned judicial warrant in order to search the premises.

00:24:06
Speaker 2: But if I were to say that, then.

00:24:09
Speaker 1: You are committing a crime. I am, yes, I.

00:24:12
Speaker 2: Don't see that, but I mean, I'm wondering if the.

00:24:15
Speaker 1: Same thing goes for your business. So if you so, like if you run a seven eleven and you have a back room a private area, the police can search that. Right, So if people had a whiting.

00:24:25
Speaker 2: In there without a warrant, right without a warrant.

00:24:27
Speaker 1: The warrant has to have like a signature on it. It has to say honorable so and so at their signature. Okay, yeah, but yeah, it's crazy. I mean, and then you know, we do all this stuff and then I think I made a video about filing a G twenty eight of how people can file this form in order to get a lawyer to help you. And then there's like new precedent that says that you can't get bonded out if you weren't crossing a border and being inspected by a border agent or an asylum officer. Yeah, it's crazy, and like we, you know, we come up with these rules and then they change.

00:24:59
Speaker 3: Well that's the thing is that they're changing so quickly, and it's it's like we're changing the tires on the car as the car is moving, right, Like that's what it feels like. You don't know what to do because it's happening so quickly and they're making it up as they go along.

00:25:15
Speaker 1: They are, They are, They very much are. I was remember that client who was texting me. He just texted me and said Jew.

00:25:21
Speaker 2: Oh yeah that guy.

00:25:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, God bless him. Kid. Okay, so just for those who don't know the law, I represent a child.

00:25:31
Speaker 2: And he texted me, well, he texts you, he texts.

00:25:35
Speaker 1: Me this way. He's learning English. And at one point he just texted me and said Jew. And I was like, we gotta do. We have to get into identity politics and trying to like help him learn English a.

00:25:47
Speaker 2: Little bit and education and educate him a little bit.

00:25:49
Speaker 1: So I'm like I'm pulling out more information, like what's going on with you? And turns out he was working at a Jewish summer camp. So it was like just like a surprise. I was like, oh yeah, it's just like a very strange thing. He just love it.

00:26:02
Speaker 2: Just didn't know any better, Yeah, exactly.

00:26:03
Speaker 1: And so we got past that. But anyway, active case right now, we're like we're in the middle of getting him a green card and I've got all the judges approvals. I've been working the case for years, and they just detained him. He's like a kid, just detain it. And it's like, okay, I literally have four judges who have signed off on this and they no one gives a shit.

00:26:25
Speaker 2: What can you tell without telling us?

00:26:27
Speaker 4: Right?

00:26:27
Speaker 2: Like, was he.

00:26:28
Speaker 1: Just just rounded up? There was no like instance, there was no like there was There wasn't a crime that was committed. It was just like you know, being ground in the wrong place. So then so then it becomes like you know, what do I have to jump in and like I have to figure out how to like bond this person out. It's like where wait, we have to wait years in order to get him citizenship, right, so for all those years, he's just did this high risk, potentially detained situation. Back to the checklist. I mean I made a video today about like what white people can do, because I we we have to think about it this way, like what can white people do to help? Like how do you flect your white privilege? And like I think and I've seen it done really well online, especially with the Portland raids, right to assembly, right to protest, and right to record, especially in New York City too. I mean those are our new mayor mom. Donnie was talking a bit about in a video about how those rights are especially protected in New York. So those are really important rights to remember as you're thinking about supporting. And we talked about it with Georgia and Karen too, like how do you how do you help from your sofa right right? Like how do you not like those of us who are maybe less confrontational, we're talking to the king of confrontation. In this episode, Walter Masters said a little bit where he's coming to the studio, but maybe not all of us are. Walter, No, I think you want to do something from home, right.

00:27:59
Speaker 3: I think the other though is that and I am sort of guilty of this as well, is I feel like I have to be careful not just sort of just wish this stuff away, right, and be willing to sort of do the thing. So are you willing to go out? Like you could be upset at the situation, but what are you willing to do? What are you willing to risk?

00:28:20
Speaker 1: Right?

00:28:20
Speaker 3: And I'm not just anybody like risk their lives or their livelihoods or anything like that, but like, are you willing to go out to take it to the streets and protests?

00:28:29
Speaker 2: Are you willing to call people out? Do you actually I mean, and I know we get.

00:28:33
Speaker 3: So tired of hearing this kind of thing, but are you actually willing to write your congressman? Are you actually willing to do those things? Are you willing to get involved in sort of grasproots organizations? And you have to hold the mirror up to yourself and be like do you really want to do those things or do you wish that other people would do it and make the problem go?

00:28:52
Speaker 1: And I'm going to make it easy for you, because you know what, I am that person who will pay the forty dollars delivery fee for the seamless thing that's right down the street. So if you are one of those people and you just want to support without actually doing anything other than throw money at the problem, that's okay. There is like a very real place for you. Yeah, there is the fight for justice for sure. My friend runs a nonprofit. She represents people who are deemed mentally unsound to stand trial by themselves. You don't have a right to a lawyer in immigration court. You have a right to consult a lawyer, but one will not be provided for you like in criminal court. So basically what she does is she's a defense attorney for those people who are not mentally sound to stand trial themselves. So you can go to the link in my link tree and you can make a tax deductible gift to her nonprofit where she does this defense work. She's incredible. But these legal defense funds really are a great venue for you. Maybe you don't feel like protesting, or you aren't a lawyer who can go do something.

00:29:51
Speaker 3: So somebody like your friend who has this nonprofit and she's an attorney, so she has a very sort of a very specific skill set. Organizations like that need volunteers, people who do like people with a certain language skill. Maybe it's maybe if it's somebody with a mental health issue, like a social worker, like somebody go.

00:30:11
Speaker 1: To immigration justice campaign. I've done a lot of work for them in my life. They always need people with a language skill or a volunteer or support or like they have incredible resources. They've supported my entire immigration career, uh with just like people helping write briefs, people like. It is this extraordinary network of people.

00:30:37
Speaker 2: Are you a good editor? Like can you help in that way? Right?

00:30:40
Speaker 1: And non lawyer support.

00:30:41
Speaker 5: Right.

00:30:42
Speaker 3: I think there are a lot of people and you know, and I think a lot about you know.

00:30:46
Speaker 2: I have this language skill. How can I you know?

00:30:50
Speaker 3: And it's one of those things that you know, I didn't go to school to learn how to speak frustration carell. It just happened in my house. So I have it already. And I know Haitian people very well, and I understand the community, and I think that what can I do to help my community?

00:31:04
Speaker 2: Exactly?

00:31:05
Speaker 3: So if you are somebody you've got those language skills and you had the desire to be helpful, there is a way to do that.

00:31:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're your girls. We're here every week. We got you. We'll be thinking this through with you, especially as like Melissa says, we're changing the tires on the car while the car's emotion unbelievable to me. Yeah, this will change every week. But we're also here to support each other. We got a fierce network of people we do, and we're here to support you.

00:31:30
Speaker 3: Interested in sort of like bringing more people into that network, right, And like you know, if there's something that I don't know, you tell me, I'll tell somebody else DM it to me.

00:31:40
Speaker 1: Like you guys know, I probably overshare in my stories. So if there is info that I can quickly screenshot and just reshare, please please do us.

00:31:48
Speaker 2: Michael loves a good oversharing moment, happy.

00:31:50
Speaker 1: To do it. And y'all know I post without thinking. So anyway, Walter's here, So we're going to go ahead and reset. We'll take a quick break and we'll be right back with Walter Master Center. We're so excited we're here with Walter Masterson. He creates satirical social street interviews and political pranks. His appearances have included rallies, protests, school board meetings. He sometimes adopts right wing personas such as Maga, Republican or supporter of Donald Trump. Welcome to the show.

00:32:21
Speaker 5: Thank you so happy that.

00:32:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're really excited to have you on.

00:32:24
Speaker 3: All right, so I'm going to ask you a question right away because sorry do it.

00:32:30
Speaker 5: So.

00:32:31
Speaker 3: I've been paying attention to your social media for a really long time. I really appreciate the work that you're doing. I have to tell you, Walter, you go into these situations and you're speaking with these people and I legitimately have anxiety on your behalf, and I get worried about your personal safety.

00:32:51
Speaker 1: Do people say that a lot that they have anxiety?

00:32:55
Speaker 4: People have said that I I have a problem with. That's sort of thing of I usually tell people that tag along. It's like, if you see me start to worry, then it's a huge issue. Shouldn't panick because I sort of have this very weird like, oh, everything's fine, yeah, and then when it's when it's bad, I'm like, all right, you got to go. If you've see me worrying, just runs the safety for the people you ever.

00:33:24
Speaker 2: Though, because because here's the thing, I think that when we are talking about mega people, a lot of them come across to me anyway, as absolutely unhinged and a little on the wrong.

00:33:36
Speaker 3: Side of crazy and sort of quick to violence, right, and you are out there putting a mirror in front of them if they get it right away, because sometimes they're too stupid to understand what you're doing. But when they finally maybe get an idea that you're coming for them, what like, what is the because we're seeing a couple of clips on social media, right, so we don't have the big picture of what's happening. What is their reaction, what do they say to you? What do they want to do to you? Do you feel like do you ever feel it?

00:34:08
Speaker 5: Like?

00:34:08
Speaker 2: Our shit?

00:34:09
Speaker 4: There's been a few times when I've said, okay, Like, there's been time one time I was getting kicked out of a city hall. I was getting kicked out of a town hall in Springfield, Ohio. That was remember that they're eating the dogs count.

00:34:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, Rush, and I remember that very well.

00:34:28
Speaker 4: My producing partner and I went there and spoke at the town hall as members of the JD Vance campaign.

00:34:36
Speaker 5: We believe in the.

00:34:37
Speaker 4: American dream over at the JD Vance Campaign, and in order to achieve that dream, we need to stop other people from that dream.

00:34:48
Speaker 5: Oh God, and we like leaned all the way into it.

00:34:54
Speaker 1: How did you prepare for that? Did you dress a certain way? Were you?

00:34:56
Speaker 4: I had on my Heritage Foundation hat? And we came there and it was it was actually pretty funny. So like the funny. The part that went wrong was I was supposed to give a speech. Then I produced the partner was supposed to give a speech. Right, I was a primer. His was absurd, so like over the way, over the top, right, just absolute nonsense. So then they switched the order so that he went first. Then I went, oh no, and so right af right on top of each other, and I go, oh wow, okay, this kind of screws things up, but okay, roll with it. Yeah, and they they tossed us after our speeches, and I remember telling the police officer, I said, I mean, since you're since you're throwing me out, can you just walk us to our car? I mean, I mean, you're you're you're going to escort me out of the building anyway, you.

00:35:53
Speaker 5: Know, the car is fifty feet.

00:35:56
Speaker 4: I remember the police officer was like sure, because we people were like people were like and it was and it was the perfect storm of furious because I had maggot people that knew I was making fun of them, absolutely furious at me. Then I had people that were somewhat progressive that thought I was from the shady Vans camp and they were furious with me. And then I had people that they were just like, hey, you know what, you know, you're coming here just mad because everyone's mad. You're mocking our town. You don't live here, You're coming here in fun of us. And I had just managed to upset every demographic in that town simultaneously. I remember we get in the car, We get in the car and my reducing partners like, I'm like, so anyway, He's like, go come on, come on, He's like, and then we're like running red lights, like just like, do not take your foot off the gas until.

00:36:55
Speaker 1: To get out of dodge. Walter, you're often like behind enemy lines. I love about all your videos is that you always have a backup, like you have like three or four. You do it in waves, like you start making a toast, then someone else makes a toast. It's never just one person. Yes, exactly, so like the Lee's Eldon video. I'd like to to.

00:37:18
Speaker 4: Lee Elton for destroying our access to clean air and clean water.

00:37:24
Speaker 1: What's next, just laying Max Well for the women's empowerments on it. I'm from Long Island, that was my former representative.

00:37:32
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it was so ironic. They the New York Cancer Society, which, for the love they do great work. Yes, they they're curing cancer. They have a person speaking at their charity function that is going to be responsible forgiving thousands of people cancer. Unequivocally, that is not the biggest opening. Coal plants, you know, derailating, deregulating air restrictions, water restrictions. I mean you can put you know, feces in water now thanks to him, I mean just across the board. And he is speaking at the New York Cancer Society on ironical.

00:38:10
Speaker 5: And ironically and I'm like, so, yeah, I was through cancer.

00:38:14
Speaker 4: That was through Climate Defiance. We bought out a bunch of those seats and planned it out. If anyone wants to do what you see on that in that video, just contact Climate Defiance. You can get in with them.

00:38:27
Speaker 1: Wow.

00:38:28
Speaker 5: So they're always looking quick.

00:38:30
Speaker 1: Shout out to Climate Defiance if you want to get involved. We were just talking before this segment about like what people can actually do to get involved because you are probably the all the way at this end of the spectrum of involvement, and there's a lot of people who are at the opposite end of the spectrum who are not involved at all.

00:38:47
Speaker 5: Getting involved makes it feels better.

00:38:50
Speaker 1: It does, I will say as someone as people who are involved, it feels great.

00:38:57
Speaker 3: I think that the danger not really but for me, like you get involved, but am I involved enough?

00:39:04
Speaker 1: Right?

00:39:04
Speaker 3: Like what's enough? What's enough for Walter? Is enough for Michael?

00:39:08
Speaker 5: I go through that all the time, like could I be doing more?

00:39:11
Speaker 4: You've been doing more? And then to the to the average person, it's it's a lot. But to my peer group it's like, I mean, are we you know, what more is there to do? And am I doing enough? Am I making a difference? Or am I just shit posting on the internet?

00:39:30
Speaker 1: I go through that too, like especially as like immigration law cases get overturned or people get deported. Cases I've worked on for years, the person ends up getting deported anyway I get. I go through the cycle of like did I actually make a difference? At a Klein who I worked with him for I think like a year. It was the trial and after we won, he odeed and died within a month. And I was like, did I fucking do anything? Like did I actually like make a difference here? And it's like it was just like something that I had to go through as I was.

00:40:04
Speaker 2: Trying to I think you did.

00:40:05
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's tragedy obviously that he died that way, but you did really good work for him that that part of it is not on you.

00:40:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean.

00:40:16
Speaker 1: Yeah. I wasn't like, oh, this is on me. I was like, this is for me. I came away from it and I was like, I did this thing. I was swinging hard for someone who no one ever swung for him before, so that I came away for him and I was like, Okay, we went down swinging. I gave him what probably very few people I've given him in his life, which is like a second chance or third or whatever. I don't know. I still have like complicated emotions around.

00:40:44
Speaker 4: It, but like that hits me because I'm sober. I've been sober for over a decade. While I don't congrats, Yeah, and there's probably a good reason then. Yeah, I don't do it. I don't drink or drug and I used to, so you know, I'm reformed. Yeah, And that's part of what radicalized me is So that.

00:41:02
Speaker 3: I was going to ask you, so, you know, what made you turn into this person, like who were you before?

00:41:08
Speaker 4: Just seeing how the criminal justice system treated me versus someone else. Seeing the documentary about the Central Park five and great doctor, I lived not probably twenty maybe twenty five blocks from the Central Park five people. I grew up twenty five blocks away. That's not far. However, I thought about the differences. I am white, come from a middle class family. The cops treated me and I did the same nasty stuff that they did. You know, you accused them of being hooligans and doing this and that. I looked at all that and said, this is nothing compared to what my friends and I did and would get arrested by the police.

00:41:57
Speaker 5: You know, like we earned it.

00:42:00
Speaker 4: Marriage through marriage to arrest so white merit, you know, we got there through merriage, and this is like, you know, this is as kids and this it was very inconsequential type of trouble. Then I saw what they went through versus myself, and that like flipped a switch.

00:42:19
Speaker 1: I was going to say, was that your primary experience with the criminal justice system, just as a lawyer who does a lot of defense work. Like what was your experience like was it mostly through policing or was it the DA or was it with sentencing, Like what was your sort of relationship to it as.

00:42:34
Speaker 4: You I could just see, well, first off, my family had means to support me.

00:42:40
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's huge.

00:42:42
Speaker 4: I saw the difference when I would hang out and get in trouble with my friends that were not white. They were They always went like, were like this around the cops, like yes officer, yes, officer, and I would always mouthed off. I remember walking through the park one time and I was just being mouthy. Cops are there like hey, parks closed, and my black friends are like yes, sorry, officer, sorry, and I'm like it's okay, officer there with me. And then I remember the cop car like just full speed or throws everyone against the car and the cops like, oh do you I'm sorry, I didn't hear you correctly. Meanwhile, like my friends are getting cuffed and they're like, bro, you've gotta dial that back, Like yeah, you know.

00:43:30
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:43:31
Speaker 3: It's really interesting though. So obviously I grew up as a black woman, but I remember being in high school with some white friends and we were going into the Genevies and my friend decided to shoplift and I and immediately I was like, I cannot be a part of this at all.

00:43:50
Speaker 1: What's your friend Wayne? Yes?

00:43:51
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, and you know how I know the first and the last name, but I won't say.

00:43:55
Speaker 1: It, but but Genevie's was already a deep cut to the nineties Bring her back, loved You.

00:44:01
Speaker 3: But I mean, but there was this feeling of like, I'm gonna just leave because I can't be anywhere near you because I know that they are You'll be the one who they're watching me. They're watching me. You know, there's this feeling and you're like, you know what I'm gonna go. You go ahead and shoplift your right, So.

00:44:20
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I left, No, no, no.

00:44:22
Speaker 4: It's it's actually funny because I remember one time I was accused of shoplifting when I was not.

00:44:30
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, every other time you were, and I.

00:44:32
Speaker 4: Was like, yeah, every other time, like the one time that I was not doing crime, And I remember just being furious, and I was like, if that happened to me more than once, damn it like something I paid for that. They were like, you did not pay for them. I was like, excuse me.

00:44:49
Speaker 5: They like ran up on me and everything. And I was like, and I'm like, how dare you?

00:44:53
Speaker 4: And I was like, I am imagine if this happened to me more than once it's just a regular occurrence, I would because I was like I was a ten at that moment.

00:45:02
Speaker 1: Right, the way that we sort of relate to crime, I just think it's just like so interesting to me as someone who just like studies it, and then I have to be in like the world around it. What gets policed and what doesn't get policed? Right, We're constantly talking about that on this show, and what I get away with as a white man and a sue walking past a security guard that other people don't. As you're sort of approaching this, I mean, you're creating these videos, you touched on it a little bit, What is the positive outcome that you have seen? Like, I think it's important for people to see. We're trying to give like hopeful messages on the show any opportunity we can where you do this what I find to be hilarious work. You're a stand up comic, like you've got an improv background. You go into these situations, you create these videos that are just very entertaining to watch. What has there been like a changed mind or a shift that you've witnessed, or something that you have seen from doing this work that you you've come away with us as being like a positive experience for you. Yeah.

00:46:05
Speaker 4: I think it's more like people are brought into the fold and they I try to do something very sensational. It's very sensational. It makes funny, Yeah, I try to be funny. It's something and it's and it's something that there are people that contact me saying that they've gotten more involved because I this, you know, sort of made it humorous. Yes, made it and they weren't really paying attention prior, and then so that was that was the hope of I mean, most people aren't really paying attention, or most people are sort of overloaded, and there's I always look for like what's the new medium to sort of deliver this information. And so it's like, all right, I could say that David Rubinstein is a climate criminal, or I could say it at a charity benefit where he's the main guest of honor, and I say it to a room of three to four hundred people amidst dead silence, right, and then and I film it and then people are like, oh, David Rubinstein, climate criminal, private equity, public anime, got it right. And then it's versus me just saying that's a camera, right. Other people are very eloquent with that and can make an impact. I tried to you better in that in that.

00:47:28
Speaker 3: Regard, right, I mean it's I think we're Michael and I were talking about this before. It's like, you have this certain skill set, right, this is what you're really good at, and this is something that you are passionate about.

00:47:39
Speaker 2: You worry about it.

00:47:40
Speaker 3: So you're taking your skill set, you're taking your talent, and you're making it so that now other people are become aware of it, right, and they'll figure out what they can do. But this is what you do.

00:47:50
Speaker 5: Yeah.

00:47:51
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I'd had someone that came up to me and told me that they were radicalized by my video where my friends and I I disrupted and shut down Andrew Cuomo's press event.

00:48:04
Speaker 1: It felt good for you that I saw I saw that video. I love that.

00:48:08
Speaker 4: I'm such a Cuomo water so please Oh yeah, no, that was that was lovely. It was just we showed up, we outnumbered him. We outnumbered his staff, We outnumbered his supporters, we outnumbered the press.

00:48:19
Speaker 1: That it was a really small event. It was like this, like in New York. If you're not if you're watching this, then you're not. In New York, they do these little like pop up, Oh, I'm out of school. I think it was at a library or something.

00:48:29
Speaker 5: In front of a school.

00:48:31
Speaker 4: Yes, and I showed up with a print out from the Board of Education saying that he did not have consent to use this school the school to.

00:48:40
Speaker 1: The camp ahead.

00:48:40
Speaker 4: Then this is the email from the Department of Education saying they don't have a mission.

00:48:50
Speaker 1: To be in front of the school or inside the school.

00:48:55
Speaker 4: And they grabbed his campaign grabbed me first. And then meanwhile there's six seven, eight people already in front of him that they didn't recognize that.

00:49:05
Speaker 1: They were like, I remember that, you really outnumbered like his staffers.

00:49:13
Speaker 4: And it was live on Fox Now. So for just ten minutes, he was just getting dogged mercilessly. The thing that he came there to talk about didn't get addressed at all, and I was not at all. That's great, that's a way he was there to He was there to talk about defunding public education. That didn't get talked about. I was happy. I'm like, great, but you talked to the winner of that race. You talked to mom TONI recently.

00:49:41
Speaker 5: Yeah, I talked to him. Yeah.

00:49:43
Speaker 4: It was It's funny I got to interview him right before he became a phenomenon. It was it was really kind of this kind of inside baseball where I'm like, I interviewed him. I posted the video and didn't go anywhere. People were like, yeah, whatever, bro like.

00:49:57
Speaker 1: But then then it comes back later. There's always that like resuscitation on the internet.

00:50:02
Speaker 4: Then he became becomes a phenomenon a month later, and I was like, oh cool, I got I got that of this.

00:50:09
Speaker 5: I felt good. I was like, okay, you know what, I'm not just riding the way I was.

00:50:14
Speaker 1: There before the d L.

00:50:18
Speaker 4: Yeah that was That was nice, and that is it is. It has been refreshing to speak to him to where he's actually He gives clear, concise answers.

00:50:28
Speaker 5: To address what you ask.

00:50:31
Speaker 4: He's not afraid of his own ideas, whereas I feel like most the Democratic Party at large is terrified of their own ideas.

00:50:41
Speaker 5: Like think about it. They healthcare of housing as a human right, water is a human right.

00:50:49
Speaker 4: Environment and you know, education, education, all this stuff, and they are terrified of their own platform.

00:50:58
Speaker 1: Actually implementing that platform. Right. We see Governor Hokel all the time just sort of, oh, I'm going to do this big bold thing and then dials it back a couple of weeks.

00:51:08
Speaker 4: Ago, yeah, and then just says something very milk toast. And then meanwhile you get Trump and his crew coming in saying we should deport every Somali, not Somali immigrants, just smalog just and there's.

00:51:26
Speaker 5: There is a level to it. You're like, you know what, nothing matters anymore. We're going to call you it, just just say what you but you believe they're going to call your communists.

00:51:34
Speaker 4: They're going to accuse you of trying to make everyone trans and you know you're Soorrows backed and they're going to say this anyway. Uh, you know, you know, you're you're all you're automatically and Israel hating Palestinian loving communists that wants to open our borders and you know, just just lean into it.

00:51:56
Speaker 1: Do you see like a ripple effect of that, the fact that he did not back down from his platform and full chested was like you know what, These are the three things I'm going to do no matter what anyone says. And he stuck with that, and he's still sticking with it.

00:52:11
Speaker 5: I think and think about this, So think about if he had lost, Right, if he had lost, what would be happening right now? Forget the fact that yes, Cuomo would be the mayor. If he had lost, the entire Democratic Party would take a harder right turn.

00:52:36
Speaker 6: And it would be a aggressive ideal. Yes, it would be a mandate. It would basically the mandate would be progressive pism loses elections, you will, You'll even lose in New York.

00:52:48
Speaker 1: But if he did lose, it would mean right that any progressive ideal is a campaign killer, that we have to stay centrist, that we have to in their narrative party line, Yes exactly, because oh look, well it didn't work with Therefore.

00:53:04
Speaker 4: They run to go further and they run these very establishment campaigns, very uninspiring campaigns. Everyone else has to do the work of spreading the message because they're just terrible at this. And then when they lose the number one talking point as well, they were too progressive, and they're saying this about people that are It's like hurts my brain to call Biden a communists, to hold the communists, And I'm like, I'm like, you know.

00:53:34
Speaker 3: What was a prosecutor right, the sort of establishment Joe Biden who's like been part of.

00:53:39
Speaker 4: The government's famous Marxist Yeah, you know, yeah, famous Marxists, Joe Biden, stuff like that, And so that is that to me is in the past year. I mean I used to be like, yes, oh, we hate Maggot, we hate Trump. In the past year, I'm like, you know what, I can open that tent to the Democratic Party, you know, my truly, you know I can. I can fit the Democratic Party in that tent. Too big tent.

00:54:06
Speaker 2: It's a big tent, and they're so big tech. We're disappointing.

00:54:10
Speaker 3: They're so disappointing. It's it's actually, it's like kind of sickening. It's like you you.

00:54:17
Speaker 2: Guys aren't standing for.

00:54:18
Speaker 4: Agg And just for the record, it's the off season. I mean, if there was an election two weeks from now, I would be saying, hey, my god, have you seen Gavin Newsom's new meme? He just released a new meme. God, it's a new meme. Nancy Pelosi, Oh man, that's Queen Hillary.

00:54:41
Speaker 1: Hillary is back on the scene. Oh my god. Yeah, bus, Now that we are in the.

00:54:49
Speaker 4: Now, yeah, when the elections two weeks from now, you'll be like, oh my god, yes, we'll have you.

00:54:56
Speaker 1: Back on right before the Oh my god, we love the Democrat establishment. Chuck Schumer, get any your honey, Jeffries, Oh my god, Jeffries.

00:55:08
Speaker 4: You see that picture with him, He's holding a baseball bat baseball is holding the batiful.

00:55:16
Speaker 5: It was just oh my god.

00:55:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So was there anything in the news cycle where we're sort of trying to cover a little bit more of like the the news cycle as we come into the studio. We were talking.

00:55:27
Speaker 5: About Puffy before the documentary.

00:55:31
Speaker 1: Documentary this weekend. Oh man, okay, so.

00:55:34
Speaker 4: Just some random t this is unverified and stuff like that. But it's like my own personal experience is if you're part of the club scene in the aughts, country club or the teens, the nightclub scene in New York City during that time, anyone that I would meet would talk about how did he loved to get filated by men? And it was a power thing. Anyone would explain that to you, and it was such a pervasive thing that I ignored it. I hate these like black rumors of like black men. They're all d l right, and it was something like a stop it like right, because it would always come with other stuff. However, everyone that like went out regularly to clubs had some connection with Diddy.

00:56:29
Speaker 5: They all repeated this. They were like, oh.

00:56:31
Speaker 4: Yeah no, and they all would were very clear that it wasn't about uh sexuality, It was about power. It was power based, and we liked big men to like get on their knees and submit to him.

00:56:44
Speaker 5: That was a very you know, it was like it was like almost like an open secret.

00:56:49
Speaker 1: It was yeah, well, I mean like the Cosby rumors were around for forever, actual core.

00:56:57
Speaker 5: Cases, open secret stuff like that.

00:57:00
Speaker 1: But the documentary is out now, Yeah, and fifty cent is out on the media circuit.

00:57:07
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's on that junket and the.

00:57:09
Speaker 1: Rector doing interviews on ABC.

00:57:12
Speaker 5: We don't like, this is a guy is not he's maga.

00:57:16
Speaker 4: He probably has really awful opinions about the Me Too movement and he's doing a documentary talking about his nemesis. Yeah, but like interering people that came forward with essay allegations and how we should believe them and I guarantee you if did he wasn't his nemesis, he wouldn't be believing any of these people.

00:57:38
Speaker 5: So let's just get that. Let's just get that out of the way.

00:57:40
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is this is not somebody who's doing this for the greater good to put the information out there. It's because he hates him, and he's just like, you know what, I'm going to take the step that we already know and I'm going to fan the flame of this right and also like.

00:57:54
Speaker 2: His career isn't like what do we have heard about the radio?

00:57:57
Speaker 1: But what do we what do we think about this though? Because there's this is like an ethical conundrum, right because ultimately these essays survivors are getting facetimed, their stories are being told. It's being told by a hater. He's playing it on ABC, so that did he can watch it in prison because ABC plays on prison televisions. Like there is that piece right of Like fifty cent is a hater and a MAGA supporter and doing this for all the wrong reasons, but the outcome is actually supporting Zanes right, Like I'm yeah, I'm like I'll take the win where I can get it. I guess you know, if we're just like, when are we gonna it's never gonna be perfect, right.

00:58:38
Speaker 3: If we're waiting for the perfect methode right there, there is no personal messages, and this is information that's it's important and people are interested in if it's coming from CDJ.

00:58:55
Speaker 1: Just throw up a photo of fifty cent, just his wide smile, and the ABC interview is because he's absolutely delighted to talk on camera where he knows almost.

00:59:06
Speaker 3: But it's almost what's the word, like it's so unseemly His joy at this is like unseemly, right, Like, ye, we all know that they hated each other, right, So this is not somebody who's just like I just thought it was really.

00:59:18
Speaker 5: Important that everybody knows.

00:59:19
Speaker 3: Oh, this is just like I hate this motherfucker and and that's because that's what it is. It's like I I hate him, and I want him to know that I hate him, and I want everybody else to know.

00:59:31
Speaker 2: This is how much I hate you. I hate you so much that I am willing to invest my own time and resources into this documentary that is going to sort of further chop you up into bits. But the flip side about it is he deserves it right, So it's like this weird place.

00:59:47
Speaker 4: And it's and it's a shame because prior to these essay allegations, this is gonna sound very weird. Just I am not condoning his essay allegations. I don't like Diddy, okay, And this is a very left handed compliment to him. Let's just say left handed compliment is that he was an inspirational figure because he was an incredibly mediocre person that was hugely successful. I mean, not the best music producer, No, not the best rapper, new horrendous actor, horrendous. However, this is a man who had multiple hit records, owned his own label, terrible clothing designer, owned his own successful clothing line, and he was the lead on.

01:00:42
Speaker 5: A Broadway show.

01:00:44
Speaker 1: God.

01:00:44
Speaker 4: I looked at that and I thought, I mean, you could be anything. This is a mediocre human being.

01:00:51
Speaker 1: Let that inspire you that you could do that. Reba McIntyre can have a lip glass line with no upper lip like you. Let these things stop you from succeeding from.

01:01:04
Speaker 4: Mac famous for not essaying Anyoneba, this one goes out to you.

01:01:11
Speaker 5: Yeah, just you can have all the lip here's your last chance.

01:01:15
Speaker 2: Fancy, don't let.

01:01:17
Speaker 4: Yeah, like, oh my god, but yeah, incredibly mediocre driven human being that just.

01:01:25
Speaker 1: Reached don't let mediocrity stand in your dream.

01:01:29
Speaker 5: Yeah, just I think that's what we should should show that the.

01:01:31
Speaker 1: Cake, No, it's stitched onto it like a cross stitch on the pillow at my therapist off.

01:01:36
Speaker 5: Like listen, don't listen. You can you know, go for your dreams. Kids. I mean, if this mediocre may.

01:01:42
Speaker 3: It can also be countless and you too could become presidents of.

01:01:49
Speaker 1: All sorts of conspiracy.

01:01:50
Speaker 4: And just for the record, Diddy helped Elon Musk by Twitter, So I feel like people.

01:01:57
Speaker 1: Famously good for society.

01:01:59
Speaker 4: Yeah, so Owning if you're thinking, I mean, what good did did he do? I mean he helped Elon Musk President Musk by Twitter, and it was just so I mean, let's not let's you know. I think we need to all remember just good friends with Trump, good friends with Elon, friends with the worst people we had.

01:02:19
Speaker 1: I just remember that first day of Twitter when just every slur was back, Oh yeah, all over Twitter. Do you have a favorite conspiracy theory?

01:02:29
Speaker 3: Is?

01:02:29
Speaker 1: Is there like a conspiracy theory that you're like this one?

01:02:33
Speaker 4: There?

01:02:35
Speaker 1: I think I think Luigi didn't do it. That's my conspiracy. I don't mean that's not him at McDonald's.

01:02:44
Speaker 4: I mean, we don't even know what happened that day, really, and if.

01:02:47
Speaker 1: You look at the photos, I'm like, this is not the same person. Like what do we even care?

01:02:53
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, I mean, I just yeah.

01:02:57
Speaker 4: My My favorite conspiracy is the bullet diary that Cash Patel f Cash Betel's FBI leaves behind every active murder scene. I mean, we all remember, I've heard about that episode of Law and Order where they go to an active crime scene and they tweet out all of the evidence confirmed and unconfirmed on I don't remember, And there's bullets with just bullet diaries everywhere. I did it, Nancy Pelosi, we love her, Chuck Schumer king king right on the bullet, right on the bullet and then with a text message to thanks to Cash Patel's FBI.

01:03:44
Speaker 1: Tweeted that out.

01:03:45
Speaker 5: Yeah, and they just yeah, it goes, it goes out immediately.

01:03:48
Speaker 4: Forget waiting for detectives to corroborate, violate, or even to fiolate and log it into evidence.

01:03:59
Speaker 5: I mean, and who needs that?

01:04:01
Speaker 1: Are you a Law and Order fan? There's a show on this network that does recaps of that was.

01:04:06
Speaker 4: Actually fun fact. I was actually online Order SVU.

01:04:11
Speaker 2: Were you a victim? Were you the perpetrator? Were you a witness?

01:04:14
Speaker 1: I was on the show.

01:04:15
Speaker 4: Please be clear, I'm not in real life on the show on s Yes.

01:04:20
Speaker 5: Not I r L. It's one of these things.

01:04:23
Speaker 4: It's one of those things where they happened upon someone who's doing something questionable, but this is not the actual criminal. So the cops just sort of go, like, you know what, whatever you're doing this is, but you know what, like we have an essay crime to solve here, but you're an asshole.

01:04:45
Speaker 5: You know one of those scenes Season ten, episode one, it was with.

01:04:50
Speaker 1: That paycheck hit hard. I love it.

01:04:53
Speaker 4: Oh this is back those back before streaming was pervasive.

01:04:58
Speaker 1: Are you still getting check?

01:05:00
Speaker 4: I got royalty checks, tons of them. When there's more syndication, because people would say, oh, I saw you on Loan Order, and I'd.

01:05:08
Speaker 5: Go what channel, what network? And they go NBC and I.

01:05:13
Speaker 2: Go, oh yeah, give me that.

01:05:17
Speaker 4: I'm getting old days pay again verse. Then they'd say oh I saw on Netflix and I go, good away from.

01:05:25
Speaker 1: Why did you even watch it? Come stream it on YouTube?

01:05:29
Speaker 4: I knew I would get like something like maybe like you know, a few several hundred dollars. If it was a USA T and T well in Marathon versus Netflix Netflix, I'd be like, Oh god, damn.

01:05:41
Speaker 1: It is there something you want to plug on the show.

01:05:44
Speaker 4: Come join me on my stand up tour. I'm going through d C, Boston, Phoenix, Colorado, San Francisco, San Diego, and yeah, join me see me.

01:05:59
Speaker 5: I r L I'm really funny.

01:06:01
Speaker 2: Oh you are hystor I'm really funny.

01:06:03
Speaker 1: I make people laugh. Funny people famously have to beg you to believe they're funny.

01:06:08
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's you know, the same comedy is that you have is good comedy is when you have to explain the joke right afterwards.

01:06:17
Speaker 1: It's beautiful because.

01:06:18
Speaker 5: It went over everyone's head.

01:06:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lawsuit we covered in law school, just real quick shout out uh, where there was a joke about a contract where you like got a plane if you got enough PepsiCo tickets. It's like a famous lawsuit and the judge and the clerk had to explain the joke of the commercial. It just ruined the whole thing. Oh god, it was. It was great anyway, Oh my god, wait, I want to know that. I'll send you. I'll send it to you.

01:06:44
Speaker 3: Yeah, Walter, you have a website, right, yes, yeah, so we'll plug it where you ticket, you'll signed, where you can get tickets and everything on your website.

01:06:53
Speaker 2: Amazing.

01:06:54
Speaker 1: But you were in Chicago and Portland are just going.

01:06:58
Speaker 4: Crazy a comedy tour before Trump decided to send National Guard into all of these cities and ice, And so I went to Chicago, Portland. Yeah, I went to Philly and then also Seattle. And while I was there, I went to the ICE facilities and spoke to activists and basically, Chicago I think has it the worst because it's not targeted in I mean, listen, the white supremacist playbook is to put it in certain areas and disperse it in certain areas so that the neoliberals can go like what what like we're not So it's not like that in Chicago. It's everywhere all the time, and it is just a hellhole with regards to that, because parents do not feel safe letting their children walk alone to school if they're black, if they're even if they're walking next to someone that is not white. It's like Hey, you know what, You're going to be stopped, you might be kidnapped, you'll be swept up with someone else. So they don't let children walk to school. There's tons of organizations that walk children to school and stand there during pick up. Portland's very similar to We're going.

01:08:21
Speaker 1: To list those organizations so that you can support them. Yeah.

01:08:24
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like there's very small Mutual Aid, Pilsen, Community Defense, and great ones that just are very they're only known in the community. Portland is insane as well. Yeah, and they are like that ICE facility has snipers standing on the roof at night, purely for intimidation. No one is trying to break into this facility. They are nasty and they just behave like they're completely above the law. And I'm saying this. You know, any Democrat that wants to run for office says that they're going to reform ICE under this, I'm like, no, this is an agency that needs to be completely eradicated, right, you cannot reform these people. These people are joined to behave.

01:09:12
Speaker 3: Like yeah, and it thugs and it does seem to me, like you know, when you're sort of like getting a picture of the kind of person who's like all right, this is what I'm going this is my calling, right, I'm going to be a part of ICE. It's when I think about it, it is the person that you went to high school or elementary school who was like the bully, who like never really amounted to anything.

01:09:33
Speaker 2: And it's like, and this is their.

01:09:36
Speaker 3: Opportunity to shine, right because they're they're not really good at anything. So I'm gonna do this and it gives me an opportunity to be a bully. I'm a professional bully. I'm getting paid for it. And it's like it sort of amps themselves up when they were like probably like that, yeah, and it's probably they were probably living in their mother's basement and not doing anything.

01:09:58
Speaker 2: And now they're like important, you know what I mean.

01:10:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're getting a signing bone, they're getting a full salary.

01:10:05
Speaker 4: None of that signing bonus is going towards child support payments at.

01:10:08
Speaker 6: All, right, and just you know, confirmed, fact check it confirmed.

01:10:14
Speaker 5: I mean, come on, you know put that you know, signing bonus towards child.

01:10:17
Speaker 2: Support payments ye live twenty nine, Yeah, come on.

01:10:22
Speaker 4: But that was that was the case when I had visited ICE facilities and spoken to people on the ground in the communities there, I mean, Chicago, Portland I think are the absolute worst. Yeah, in terms of and on top of that, you have tons of MAGA grifters showing up to those facilities.

01:10:42
Speaker 1: Yeah. I saw you talking to some of them.

01:10:44
Speaker 5: I saw make content and be like, look at you know.

01:10:47
Speaker 1: This, look at how great this is.

01:10:48
Speaker 5: Yeah, and they show up with don't tread on me hats.

01:10:52
Speaker 4: So the only people with it don't tread on me flags are counter protesting.

01:10:56
Speaker 5: You haven't gat since I saw it.

01:10:59
Speaker 4: They don't tread on me should be on the other side, you're counter protesting with a Gadston flag. There's one video I'm speaking to a guy. I'm like, you're wearing a Gadsden flag hat. They just you cannot This is there's literally states rights, states rights, states rights. Don't tread on me, you know, let the states decide. This is the opposite of letting the states exactly. This is the you don't know what that means. You're just like the snake chopped up image. You don't know what that actually means, or.

01:11:28
Speaker 2: Don't know what it means. They don't know what it means.

01:11:30
Speaker 3: And I mean, and I wonder do they do they even realize how stupid they are?

01:11:36
Speaker 4: I or I honestly think that it's more of like, we voted for this, this is exactly what we want, and they're made interested in debating or being consistent. They're in a position right now where they can say, listen, this is what I want. I don't care, and I'm not trying to, you know, play into some consistency with you about this. This is exactly what I want. I don't care that I have rights and they don't. I want the fifth and fourteenth Amendment to apply to myself, yep, and only.

01:12:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's such there's so many blind spots with that, right, Like they voted for all of this, But did you vote for higher cost for groceries? Like did you vote for gas prices to go up? Like? Did you vote for tariffs to increase everything? For cost of living is going did you vote for the lowest job numbers in almost a decade?

01:12:31
Speaker 4: Well, but listen, you're losing sight of the big picture here, which is okay, you can now say gay retard at work? Yeah, right, there are two trans players is all over. Yeah, there's two trans volleyball players nationwide that won't get to play volleyball this year, and that's it's worse than the decimation of the lands.

01:12:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the comedy you're going to get on Walter's tour. Get in there, get tickets. Waltermasterson dot com. Thank you for joining us. We got a chance to chat today. I mean, Walter was just so great and incredible.

01:13:12
Speaker 2: I did not take hilarious to be anything other than what.

01:13:15
Speaker 1: We got to go to his show. If he's got dates in New York, we should go. We'll take a selfie, we will, Okay, Just quick YouTube comment, Michael, does your husband near your bagel order? Yes, he does. I have a couple of different bagel orders and he knows all of them based off my mood and what happened the night before because I can't eat locks. If I was drinking hard liquor the night before, I get nash. Thank you so much for watching. I'm Michael Foot, I'm Melissa albranch and we'll see you in court.

01:13:44
Speaker 2: Not me. I don't go to court.

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