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Wednesday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Jonas, LaVar and Brady open this 'Best Of' edition of the show joined by The Old P, Petros Papadakis, to weigh in on the latest in LA sports, Mike Gundy being fired by Oklahoma State, and more! Would Gundy work at a school like UCLA? Then they get into the news that the Giants have officially named Jaxson Dart their starting quarterback... What have the last few years meant for Russell Wilson's legacy? Later, they go through the 0-3 teams remaining in the NFL... Which of them, if any, still have a fighting chance at salvaging their season? Plus, Motel 6 vs. Super 8!
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00:00:00 Speaker 1: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up on this Wednesday edition. Of course, we've got the usuals. Petros Papadakis will stop by, We've got our Midweek Awards, and we've got another edition of in case you missed it. We're also going to have a conversation about oh to three teams that give you hope. It's a long shot, but we're going to try and sell you on them. We're gonna also talk about the quarterback change in New York with the Giants. We're going to talk about the big game coming up in State College and whether or not you want to stay at a Super eight or a what is it a super skate a skate eight, whatever you want. 00:00:34 Speaker 2: To call it. 00:00:34 Speaker 1: Yeah, that too. We're going to talk about all that fun stuff and the usual shenanigans. 00:00:38 Speaker 3: It's all yours. 00:00:38 Speaker 1: Coming up next here, Two Pros and a Cup of Joe on a Wednesday, Fox Sports Radio. It is two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. You can find us on the iHeartRadio app. You can find us on hundreds of affiliates all across the country and wherever you are making us a part of your Wednesday morning. We appreciate it as we take you all the way up until the end of this hour nine am Eastern times, six o'clock Pacific, and we are excited to announce a brand new YouTube channel for the show. Just go to YouTube dot com forward slash at two pros FSR, or if you're already within YouTube, just search two pros FSR. Be sure to hit the subscribe button. Don't stop there, hit the thumbs up icon. Comment away, let us know whose takes on the show you like, who's you don't go check out our brand new channel on YouTube. Begin just search two pros FSR and subscribe. And right now we welcome in the old p Petros Papadakis. He is the co host of the Petros and Money Show, which you can hear on the Blowtorch AM five to seventy LA Sports, a Fox College football analyst and our good buddy Pe Good morning, Hello, Hey Pete. 00:01:42 Speaker 4: What up? 00:01:43 Speaker 3: Good morning everybody? Hello? Listen to your game? Oh thanks, it was a barn burner. 00:01:50 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a nice, good game, a lot of penalties. You're having a good time with it. 00:01:54 Speaker 2: Hard to have a lot of rhythm with so many penalties. 00:01:58 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but you call a good game literally. 00:02:00 Speaker 2: Twenty penalties and then four four that were offsetting, and then two that were declined. So twenty six penalties is a lot. 00:02:11 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:02:12 Speaker 5: I got to start taking notes when I watch your games, because you'd be saying some pretty interesting stuff and I'll be like, Oh, I want to bring that up to him on the show. 00:02:20 Speaker 3: But right now, it's slipping me those two. It's me too. Yeah, it's slipping me into what you said next. 00:02:28 Speaker 2: But man, running back should be on a national show. The one thing about that game that should be mentioned is that that kid, Robert Henry Junior is like the Ashton Gentee of this year. 00:02:40 Speaker 3: He is. 00:02:41 Speaker 2: He's leading the nation and rushing. He's home run hitting with seventy yard carries. He had one hundred yards in the first half against Texas A and M and two hundred overall, a seventy yard run right at the beginning of the third quarter. He's a pretty special player, a JC guy who got that once. The kid Pavia at Vanderbilt did the lawsuit to get his JC years back. This guy was like, hey, I could do that too, and came back and is playing one more year at UTSA, and he is. He is pretty spectacular. But other than that, I have two weeks off now because Fox has fewer games with a lot of baseball stuff in the next two Saturdays, I guess, so I am off for two weeks just sitting there. I am available to be hired if anybody wants me to put on like a clown outfit and come to their kid's birthday or something. 00:03:39 Speaker 5: Well you think that this means for Norvale? You know, like that that's that's probably Yeah, they probably needed to win that game, right, They didn't need to lose that game that way. I mean the way you think. Does you know, does that put him on a hot seat? 00:03:53 Speaker 3: I don't know. 00:03:54 Speaker 2: I mean they still have the Mountain West season to play and there's a lot but you know, their quarterback got benched. They benched their quarterback, and then they just decided that the starter's not not the starter anymore. 00:04:04 Speaker 3: The backup is going to be the starter. 00:04:06 Speaker 2: And he made a pretty rough decision there on the two point conversion at the very end. But I think they believe in him. He's improved them year in and year out since they hired him. And Colorado State is they have some good resources, they have a good stadium, they have a great student section, they have a lot of support, a little bit like Utah State in the Mountain West moving over to the PAC twelve. So, but it is an interesting question. We'll have to see how the rest of the year goes. It's still just September, guys. 00:04:37 Speaker 3: I know, yes, sorry. 00:04:41 Speaker 4: No, I said, go ahead. 00:04:42 Speaker 3: Oh. 00:04:45 Speaker 1: Thoughts on the on the Doyers and it feels like the the NL West is still up for grabs at this point is less than ideal. 00:04:56 Speaker 2: Have I ever told you guys about the Costco. 00:04:58 Speaker 5: Hoang we talked to about to Super eight today. 00:05:01 Speaker 2: Do you guys know the Costco ho No? 00:05:03 Speaker 3: What is it? 00:05:04 Speaker 2: Jonas knows her like this is a real Yeah, she's an Asian girl. I didn't get her real name on Instagram, but she's an Asian. 00:05:13 Speaker 3: Are you saying that's her real last name or you? 00:05:16 Speaker 5: No? 00:05:16 Speaker 2: She calls herself the Costco Ho and she goes to Costco and talks about all the deals and then at the end she does like a squat down to the ground like a stripper. 00:05:27 Speaker 5: Yeah, I know who you're I've seen her on social Yeah yeah, yeah. 00:05:31 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know exactly who you're talking about. I know exactly who you're talking She's. 00:05:37 Speaker 2: An attractive Asian only fans type, right. And then she's like there in the Costco isles and she talks about the different deals at Costco and at the very end she goes, you can pull up the Costco ho. 00:05:53 Speaker 1: We have. 00:05:53 Speaker 2: We have plenty of Costco host sound bites on the. 00:05:56 Speaker 3: Show, Brandy, do we have Costco ho in? 00:05:58 Speaker 2: They allpse cat or something as their lame I forget anyway, I'm here to answer questions. The Dodgers, Yes, are struggling. The bullpen is terrible. Other than that, they seem like a pretty good team. Their starting pitchers are great, they have a great offense, they have a great lineup. Otani pitched beautifully last night, six scoreless innings. I think that's the longest he's gone in a game. Then the bullpen came in and blew it again. So yeah, they haven't clinched the NLS. They're gonna play in the Wildcard. So a week from yesterday, the Dodgers will be playing in the Wildcard and it'll be interesting to see if they flip a playoff switch or if none of these guys in the bullpen. I mean, they have so many starters like Emmitt Sheehan and people like that, and even Otani. If they don't use their bullpen in the playoffs, they just use different starters to come in, maybe they'll have a different outcome. 00:06:56 Speaker 3: But the bullpen. 00:06:56 Speaker 2: All these guys they signed in the offseason for a lot of money have been abject failures. Kirby Yates and Tanner Scott and Dodger fans are worried about it. How much do they get to be worried after winning the World Series last year and having their twenty million person parade and fully blowing their wad last November Jumps? 00:07:19 Speaker 4: What tank Well Jonas is really pent up over here? 00:07:23 Speaker 2: Oh? 00:07:23 Speaker 3: Is he tanks? 00:07:24 Speaker 2: A hostage crisis. 00:07:25 Speaker 6: Going on with He's like that Colorado State mascot we were talking about last. 00:07:30 Speaker 2: Week Rested Warriors, a real hostage crisis cam the Ram. We got a lot of cam the Ram in in the game. At least we got that in and we did it, and we did a cam the Ram versus a Roadrunner ramit speed comparison, and rams are faster than road runners. 00:07:47 Speaker 3: Believe it or not, tang they are. 00:07:50 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would never think that. 00:07:52 Speaker 2: No, we didn't either. That's why we looked it up and we had the speed comparison. Late night football's got it all. 00:07:57 Speaker 6: But wait, is that what jump the bare different from you early morning guys that it does include the ball? Say, dang hey, Petro's back to the Dodgers. What would Joe Davis have to say about the Dodgers right now? 00:08:12 Speaker 2: What are you asking me to analyze? I don't like that. What would he say? I don't know. It's the matter with He's just curious. I've been able to watch it. I'm not saying anything bad about Joe anymore because he was nice to me at the Fox seminar. 00:08:41 Speaker 6: I do I do want to ask you about in all seriousness, because the timing of all this seems rather odd. I mean, obviously they were bad last year. It's been not been a good start so far this year. You know they weren't that bad two years ago. You know, their top twenty team. Why now in your mind? And then also, I guess what's the outlook for that program? 00:09:04 Speaker 2: Which one Oklahoma State, Oh my pokes. Yeah, it's hard to imagine them without Mike Gundhy as the coach, right, because like I think about Oklahoma State and you think about I used to think about two things, Barry Sanders and Thurman Thomas. 00:09:24 Speaker 3: Right. 00:09:25 Speaker 2: I'd never been to Stillwater. I didn't know anything about it, and you just thought about those two running backs. 00:09:33 Speaker 3: And I don't know what it. 00:09:35 Speaker 2: Was twenty years ago, what would that have been two thousand and five did he become the head coach? And it wasn't on my radar, And I guess it just kind of start. I went out there like three or four times and did games at t boone Pickings and talked to Gundhy and kind of understood the where they had Mason Rudolph. Different guy over the years, and it's hard to imagine somebody having more success at a more obscure place for that long of a time. And that really should be commended. He was a great character of the game. They I don't think had a real easy time adapting with the modern the very quick modern changes that happened in college football in the last few years. But he should be commended. I mean, the guy ran a great program and a successful. 00:10:35 Speaker 3: Program for a long time. 00:10:36 Speaker 2: Would he been able to do that anywhere else, I'm not sure. I mean, he can coach somewhere else and it'll be interesting to see. But I mean he was literally only out of Stillwater after being the quarterback there for like two or three years of his life with Ralph Frigen in Maryland. 00:10:55 Speaker 3: Or something like that, the Fridge. 00:10:57 Speaker 2: So this is a guy who's, you know, his lifelong cowboy and did a lot of great things at his alma mater. Maybe he didn't get along with everybody very well. Remember there used to be like a power struggle between him and Tea Boone Pickens when he was alive. 00:11:13 Speaker 3: Do you remember that. So that was a whole thing. 00:11:18 Speaker 2: But overall, I think, you know, once the dust settles that people should remember this was a great football coach at his alma mater, and I don't think anybody could ever have more success, more sustained success at that place. Now they have money, more money than a lot of people, and which is kind of ironic to hear him complain about other people having money, because you're playing people that have less money. But either way, Mike Gundy was a great character of the game. He had a giant tortoise or still does that lives on his property somewhere in still Water. So just you know in the weird haircut when. 00:11:59 Speaker 6: He makes then set a place like Ucla, Like, did you see him taking a job like that? 00:12:03 Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, it's so hard to imagine. 00:12:07 Speaker 2: Like I used to be able to answer that question about Mike Leach, right, like everybody'd be like any job that came up over the years when Mike Leach was a thing, everybody was like, well, you got to hire Mike Leach. It's like Tennessee or Ucla, and it's like, guys, he's going to show up in a polo smelling ripe to a black tie dinner an hour late. You know he's gonna Now that works at Washington State, That's okay, that's the furthest out post of the Pac ten or twelve at the time. He works at Lubbock, which was the furthest out outpost of the Big twelve at the time, and SEC Stark, Vegas, which is the furthest out post of the SEC at the time. But to work somewhere where you're expected to maybe be a little bit different than who you are deep down was going to be difficult for him. 00:13:01 Speaker 3: I don't. 00:13:02 Speaker 2: I don't know if that's the same with Michael, with Mike Gundy. Only because it's been so long, right that he's not coached anywhere else for so long. He's used to being in this little kingdom where he played quarterback and where people he could say, well, where are you gonna go? If you don't like it? 00:13:22 Speaker 3: I can't. I can't picture him anywhere else. 00:13:25 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to it's hard to U c l A. 00:13:28 Speaker 3: I don't. 00:13:28 Speaker 2: I'd rather they hire an Ogeron and watch him explode the city of Los Angeles try to recruit and freak out and attack Lincoln Riley. 00:13:37 Speaker 5: He would be too much, don't you think energy wise like persona wise for likel like UCLA gives me like real, real yuppie type vibes man like, no. 00:13:47 Speaker 2: Doubt it's a chardonnay crowd. But maybe they need to change that up, you know. They changed it up with Jim Mora and he had some success. 00:13:54 Speaker 5: He eventually became guy a little yup to him though a little bit. 00:13:59 Speaker 3: He coun he can fit that that, you know. 00:14:02 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's you know Ultimately that was the reason that Pat, I mean Pat Hayden hired Clay Helton to be a usc head coach. He hired a Steve Sarkisian whose life was nowhere near in shape to be a head coach, and everybody knew it, you know, But Pat Hayden hired those guys and he didn't hire it is. Yeah, he didn't hire at Ogeron because that Ogeron doesn't have a golf bag in his trunk, you know. I mean that's true. I mean that that's ancient history, but it's true. So somebody already has a between his secret. 00:14:39 Speaker 3: Titleist. 00:14:39 Speaker 2: I mean, but but you know, somebody already a big stack of balloons you take to like a birthday party. 00:14:47 Speaker 3: That with. 00:14:52 Speaker 2: All I'm saying is us he already ignored at Ojeron because he wasn't enough of a yuppie, and uh, they probably he should have hired him. I don't know if he'll get the UCLA job. He does have some baggage, but I certainly think they should look into him because somebody that could blow up and recruit La and change her. They need to change a landscape. I mean, they need to make a move and do something differently than what they've been doing, and I think they will play better. They might even win against Northwestern on Saturday. I think they'll respond better with Tim Skipper as the as the interim coach. 00:15:29 Speaker 5: You mentioned USC, they they're looking pretty impressive. Man, Like, where you where do you stand on this? Like has the experiment started to pay dividends with what's going on there? 00:15:41 Speaker 3: Well? What are we experimenting with the head coach? 00:15:43 Speaker 2: Maybe? Well, they won two games against teams that they that they really should have dominated, and they did. They dominated Georgia Southern and they dominated Missouri State. They went on the road and played a per new team. That's it has a new coach, is getting better. But road games are hard. Road conference games are harder. The first road conference game of the year is really hard. And they passed that test and West Lafayette whatever you think about that Purdue team, but Michigan State is improved. 00:16:17 Speaker 3: I thought that was a quality win. 00:16:19 Speaker 2: Yeah, Michigan State is an improved team. 00:16:21 Speaker 7: Now. 00:16:21 Speaker 2: Sure, they were playing eight o'clock at night, you know, eleven o'clock at night, Eastern time, deep into the morning. They had a guy carted off the field for a scary injury and all that, But I think last year's USC team loses to that Michigan State team this year in the same circumstance, So Jade and Mayava, you could say, And right now he looks like the most improved player from last year to this year on any team as a quarterback. They put together a good defensive staff with Dean Lynn, who people want to be hired for the UCLA head coaching job, and Rob Ryan, of course we all know him, the linebacker coach, so they look a lot better. 00:17:07 Speaker 3: Now. 00:17:07 Speaker 2: What's it going to look like when Brady's there at Big Noon in Illinois after Illinois was physically desecrated by Indiana last week, which is not ideal for anybody going forward, But I don't know. I mean, once they get out on the road and face a little adversity and see if they can overcome that adversity, it'll be interesting. They're undisciplined. They had ten penalties on Saturday night against Michigan State. My prop bet over was nine and a half. Oh I hit that, But yeah, US season proved. I think most people would have looked at their schedule and said, yeah, they'll be four and zero to start the season. But they look pretty good. And the two receivers if Jacobe Lane is going to come back and Mackay Lemon have been spectacular. So you got to do what what do they say? Give you s see their flowers. They've had a great September. But it's not over yet, and we'll see what happens, you know, when it gets cold and when they get out on the road and start playing in conference games. They'll be a little bit more of a sample size to judge. But yeah, they're better than I thought they would be, although I probably would. 00:18:25 Speaker 3: Have guessed they'd be undefeated at this point. 00:18:27 Speaker 2: But that that's a much better you have to say. Eight And Childs too, is one of the most improved quarterbacks in. 00:18:33 Speaker 3: The country from last year to this year. Do you think they can continue it? Like? 00:18:38 Speaker 5: What what chance do you give them in like this whole Big ten hunt? 00:18:43 Speaker 3: Oh? I don't know. 00:18:44 Speaker 2: I mean, how many how many slots does the Big Ten get in the playoff? 00:18:48 Speaker 3: Twenty six? Okay, they'll make it six maybe seven? Right? Q six maybe seven? Six? 00:18:59 Speaker 4: I think they'll get four teams. 00:19:00 Speaker 3: In this year. 00:19:00 Speaker 5: Four. 00:19:01 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. 00:19:03 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, if they if the Big Ten gets four teams in this year, and the way USC schedule plays out, they might have a chance, but they have to improve every week, and I've not seen that under Lincoln Riley USC team yet. 00:19:16 Speaker 3: So you don't think they make the playoff. 00:19:19 Speaker 2: If I had to guess right now, I just I'd stick to my story and say no. But they certainly look a lot better than they used to. 00:19:26 Speaker 1: I mean, right when I thought you were turning the corner and starting to really have some love for Lincoln. 00:19:31 Speaker 2: Well you're gonna sit here and put my feet to the fire like a broadwurst. 00:19:33 Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, I don't those are very good about away with uh? With with mustard? 00:19:39 Speaker 2: My estimation, Petros, we're having a delibuster. 00:19:43 Speaker 3: We're yeah, yellow mustard. Would you be okay with it? Fine with me? Maybe some onions, And I'm not a finicky man. 00:19:50 Speaker 2: Although I don't enjoy ketchup on a sausage or a hot dog, I find that to be Communist and Unamerica. 00:19:55 Speaker 1: Huh, Petros, we were having a discussion earlier about the sausage, Super eight, Super eights and Motel sixes. Where do you stand on those as hotels? 00:20:06 Speaker 3: What are they used for? Are you willing to stay in one of those or just use one of those? I mean, it's a legit question. 00:20:16 Speaker 5: Come up, Remember, how do we get in this com because I got booked, so I late booked for a white out, white out weekend. 00:20:28 Speaker 2: Okay, this is okay. This is one of those things where you can't get a room in a college. 00:20:32 Speaker 5: And the only hotel left with one room available was the Skate eight, And I said, I just can't do that just because of what it has represented to me in the past. 00:20:48 Speaker 3: That was where the conversation came from. 00:20:50 Speaker 2: So you're not going to the way, Oh no, I'm going I just anb no. 00:20:55 Speaker 5: Because they're they're not available either. I just I'm going to drive in from Harrisburg. So I'm stay in Harrisburg where there's room availability and sensible rates for a room. I mean, can you imagine this. A Skate eight room is going for eight hundred dollars a night. Wow, a skate eight super eight, that's what they're called. Why do they call them skate I do not know. 00:21:21 Speaker 2: Well, I've had to do some things, you know, in this similar regard. I think I had to stay at a hotel like that in Pullman once or twice, or outside in Moscow in Idaho, outside of Pullman because we got an Apple cup late in the year and then the rooms are already been booked for three four months, right, and you get that game assignment late in the year and they can't put you anywhere else. So yeah, I'm been war I. 00:21:46 Speaker 5: Want to go through. Like what Jonas asked you though, like do you have history with like Motel sixes or skate eights Because Loraina jumped in there and was like she jumped in there pretty quickly and was like, hey, listen, that's that's all my hotels list. 00:22:01 Speaker 3: It's a very normal place to stay. There you go, And I said, wow, that that's you know. 00:22:07 Speaker 2: We have all kinds of flop hotels. In fact, I grew up where my family owned. I guess you would call them like slum hotels. My grandfather did, my great grandfather did in sam Pedro, the LaSalle Hotel, the Cabrio Hotel, the West Hotel, and these hotels were eight dollars a night, oh yeah, and they had one bathroom. 00:22:31 Speaker 3: On every floor. What were they four. 00:22:34 Speaker 2: People that were down and out. 00:22:37 Speaker 5: And that's a very serious like hookers, that's what we were. 00:22:44 Speaker 2: I mean, these are people, you know, I mean people who have fallen through the cracks of society. 00:22:49 Speaker 1: The room key had had the room number attached to it on a little key chain. 00:22:54 Speaker 2: You know. I just remember running around, like when I was eight or nine, you know, picking up whatever, you know, go get the bag of money from the lobby of this hotel and run it back to the restaurant and. 00:23:05 Speaker 3: Stuff like that. 00:23:06 Speaker 2: So my my flop hotel experience goes maybe a little bit deeper that then Loraina with her slippers on, headed to the vending machine at the Super eight. 00:23:20 Speaker 3: Slippers is a nice touch thereat, but generally could be barefoot. 00:23:25 Speaker 2: I do remember being lined up at the at the vending machine at the Poloosee End, you know, trying to get like trying to get a bottled water to pour into my sleep mask. 00:23:36 Speaker 3: Oh, no filter. 00:23:39 Speaker 2: Over the years, But I will say this now that I'm like, I'm almost I'm forty eight, and I don't travel as much as I used to. But the the I used to wonder, like why the broadcasters, like the older broadcasters were always bitching about the hotel or the car service or whatever. But now that I'm a little older and a little bit more finicky. I I do understand that a little bit more. I would not appreciate being put in a motel six to call a football game. That being said, that sounds you know, when you say it out of your mouth, you sound like a huge a hole. 00:24:17 Speaker 5: Yeah, but you don't, especially if you know the history of it. I'm just saying. 00:24:21 Speaker 3: I mean, if paying for it, that you do not do. That I would do. 00:24:28 Speaker 2: Is stay at Gettysburg and miss the game and be dressed up like a Union soldier. 00:24:35 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're LaVar Rington, you're not saying it. 00:24:37 Speaker 2: Told the line boys just run around around. There's a cold sweat, screaming at the ghosts. 00:24:44 Speaker 3: He's got a musket in where the battlefields are. 00:24:49 Speaker 2: That's what I would if I was in that part of the world. 00:24:51 Speaker 3: That's what I would want to do. Go to Gettysburg. 00:24:53 Speaker 4: Huh uh huh. 00:24:54 Speaker 3: That's overrated experience. 00:24:56 Speaker 2: Man, That's fine with me, all right, you'd enjoy it. I want to sit at the Devil's Den. I want to go to Little Roundtop. I want to go to Big Roundtop. I want to go to the Peach Orchard. I want to go to the Bloody angle. I want to go to that. I want to go to Betty Gettysburg, the Bloody Angle. Well, there's two bloody angles. One one was a spot in the battlefield I think in Cold Harbor, which was just in the overland campaign, which was after Gettysburg, which was just a horrible massacre that was unnecessary. And the Bloody Angle in Gettysburg is the highest point that I forget the guy's name, but a guy put his hat on his bayonet and like a general type and ran a bunch of dudes up during pickets charge on the third day at Gettysburg. And that's the highest point or the lowest point. And anyway, that's the furthest the South ever got into the north and they got over a wall and they commandeered a gun. They turned the gun around on the north and then they realized there was no ammunition in the gun left and they got absolutely pummeled and killed. But that's the Bloody Angle. So that's the highest point of the South advance. 00:26:14 Speaker 5: That's interesting because it's not very far from the South. It's like right there right. 00:26:18 Speaker 3: Well, that's what Gettysburg is. 00:26:20 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why Gettysburg is so neat because the south was so far to the north. And if they get by the Army of Potomac in the north there, that means they marched to Washington, because there's no other army up there. So if they get by the Army of the Potomac, they marched to Washington and they signed their treaty and they get seceession. So that was a pretty big deal. Well, anyway, that's what I would do. 00:26:45 Speaker 5: I want to see Stone Hinge. I've seen the Northern lights. I want to see the Northern lights. Well, I've seen I've seen the Northern lights. I checked that one off. But I do want to see Stone Hinge. We talking about. 00:26:55 Speaker 3: I'm just saying he said, you want to see some hooker hotels the Stone, because I was certain to. 00:27:00 Speaker 2: I would want to stay in Gettysburg and I wouldn't want to stay in the Motel. 00:27:03 Speaker 3: Six that's one of yours. Want to get places. 00:27:06 Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to stay in like one of those hotels where they're like, you know, five men's legs were amputated in this room. 00:27:12 Speaker 3: Tang all right. 00:27:16 Speaker 5: Also, I also want to see the the mountain with the President's faces on. 00:27:21 Speaker 3: It, Mount Rushmore. I want to see it. I want to see it. 00:27:25 Speaker 2: You know what, they took the President's off it and now it's just Lebron. 00:27:28 Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, Jack will is it really? 00:27:37 Speaker 3: Petros? Always appreciate it. Let's do it again next week. 00:27:42 Speaker 2: Tom Brady boomerisias. I mean, there wouldn't be surprised. The Gray Petros papadegas. 00:27:52 Speaker 1: He is the cost of the Petros and Money show, which you can hear on the blow Torch and five seventy l a Sports Fox called Football Analyst and you get them on ex at the old it is two pros and a cup of Joe. 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I ain't going a lot to you. I don't feel good either, but anyways, it's kind of funny. 00:33:19 Speaker 3: I was enjoying it. You feel like you feel better than Rosta's right about that? Yeah? 00:33:24 Speaker 5: I do, because all I gotta deal with is is a stuff he hit and you know, you know, some drainage, but he he is dealing with, uh, the mortality of his career right now. 00:33:37 Speaker 3: Geez, yeah, it's not good. 00:33:39 Speaker 6: Why don't we just go there, Jonas, Why don't we just go there? We were, we wouldn't have this conversation. And I think we're here. We got here naturally. 00:33:46 Speaker 1: If he just stopped after Seattle, he's a Hall of Famer everything since then you feel like that disqualifies him from being I don't know that it disqualifies him, but I think think it changes the conversation about him. 00:34:02 Speaker 3: Dang. Like if you look at. 00:34:04 Speaker 6: What weird thing was is when you asked if this has happened before? Like, what do you mean in that context? 00:34:08 Speaker 1: Well, I mean where you see a guy leave an organization willingly, like wanted to go elsewhere, wanted to pursue something else. 00:34:17 Speaker 3: And it run its course and then just ends up bouncing. 00:34:20 Speaker 4: Around and being Aaron Rodgers. 00:34:24 Speaker 6: He's on his second team now, truth, and he hasn't played anywhere close to how he. 00:34:28 Speaker 3: Played in Green Bad Truth. 00:34:30 Speaker 6: Okay, But like, like if you would you had said it was interesting, you had said, like, has this happen before? 00:34:35 Speaker 4: We talked about this. 00:34:36 Speaker 6: And I would argue that it's actually happened a bajillion times. I mean as far as a guy who he looked at as a Hall of Famer getting pushed out and if he did go somewhere else, like what it looked like. 00:34:49 Speaker 4: That's one. 00:34:50 Speaker 5: You know, you could throw Rogers that compensation and I didn't have the success and San frank but those kinds he was good. 00:34:58 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was good. 00:34:59 Speaker 6: But I would say Joe Flacco, who was a Super Bowl winner, super Bowl MVP. 00:35:03 Speaker 4: Okay, but you know he'd been in a Pro Bowl. 00:35:04 Speaker 1: But Russell Wilson was I think thirty two, Like, it's not like he was at the end. And those guys, I think everybody looked at and said, well, they got a couple of years left. 00:35:13 Speaker 6: We also look at that a lot different too, like we we hear that now and we look at that the way you just said. But yeah, that actually used to be a lot closer to the end back then than it wasn't. 00:35:26 Speaker 4: I mean, Montana left. I mean, granted he played for. 00:35:29 Speaker 6: A long time in San Francisco, but there's other guys who you know, the guys are first off, guys are getting in the league earlier, not later. He used to be, guys would stay an extra year. There are guys coming in at twenty one years old, now twenty years old. 00:35:45 Speaker 3: Montana left at thirty six. 00:35:47 Speaker 4: He was thirty six, thirty seven, But you can. 00:35:51 Speaker 6: But I mean, I think obviously Rogers was up there in age right, he left around what thirty seven, thirty eight? 00:35:56 Speaker 1: Yeah, Tom Brady was up there. I just Russ feels like the one that you looked at and go, well, there's tread on the tires. That's why Denver gave him the deal. 00:36:06 Speaker 4: They gave him. 00:36:08 Speaker 5: But that's what's screwed him. You want to know what's screwed him. It's not that he's not playing up to standard. It's that I believe people really got turned off by the way he was covered and the way things were reported on him when he went to Denver. 00:36:24 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's by. 00:36:25 Speaker 4: The way he went to Denver at thirty four. 00:36:29 Speaker 5: I think the narrative coming out of Seattle, where you had some teammates kind of turning on him, saying that, you know, it was about the Legion of Boom and it was about Marson Lynch, not Russell Wilson, which is okay, we can debate that. Look at his body of work. Russell Wilson they called, you know, big play Russ, danger, dangerous, danger Russ. But when he went to Denver, it did not even have to do with what he did on the field. That started to deteriorate the way people looked at him. It was the shiny suits going to the prom. 00:37:10 Speaker 3: It was the. 00:37:13 Speaker 5: Office space, to have your own office in the building. It was those things that. 00:37:19 Speaker 1: To me, what about from three to one crap closet to bedroom ratio at his house. 00:37:24 Speaker 3: It was that was scrap closet to be ratio. 00:37:27 Speaker 4: I'm still ticked off about this, guys. 00:37:29 Speaker 5: It was it was the go to guys and tell them bad for the haller, run holler pass buyer. 00:37:36 Speaker 6: Think about the next buyer right like, you're gonna look at that house be like, what the hell am I going to do? 00:37:41 Speaker 3: Why do I want twelve bathrooms? 00:37:42 Speaker 6: You're sitting twenty thousand square feet with twelve bathrooms at three bedrooms. 00:37:46 Speaker 3: You got all these restrooms in your house. 00:37:49 Speaker 4: The house for horses, Like, who's going to live in there? 00:37:51 Speaker 5: And you're telling them to make sure you wash your hands and call out running pass while you're on the side. I think that deteriorated the man's reputation. 00:38:02 Speaker 1: I'm telling you there's gonna be Hall of Fame voters that are just gonna go look up realtor dot com and be like, yeah, we're out. 00:38:07 Speaker 3: That's uh. 00:38:08 Speaker 6: If he bought that, I would Who would buy and live in a house of that size with that few bedrooms, that many bathrooms. 00:38:16 Speaker 4: We just can't do it, can't do it, won't do it. 00:38:19 Speaker 5: Like many super but never thirty four. 00:38:25 Speaker 4: So it's not that far off from those other two guys. 00:38:29 Speaker 6: And I understand what you're saying, but like if you look at most players there, they drop off after thirty. Now granted he's he's one where it changed a lot once he got the Denvert, and we can we can go into like, I mean, just how ridiculous that first season was. 00:38:46 Speaker 4: Like I don't know that that's all on him. 00:38:49 Speaker 6: For Nathaniel Hackett, that season, like that was an absolute disaster in every way, shape and form. He was a part of it, But it's also on Nathaniel Hacket. Think about how bad and ridiculous that was. 00:39:02 Speaker 1: And it started the first game was against Seattle. Remember there was the clock management issue, and that was on Monday night. 00:39:08 Speaker 4: Did they hire a guy? 00:39:09 Speaker 6: They had to hire someone to come in and be the clock management guy, because at no point when they were he was hiring his staff, he. 00:39:15 Speaker 4: Was like, Hey, maybe I should have a guy who helps out with this. 00:39:19 Speaker 3: It's not stop being great. 00:39:22 Speaker 6: They want to talk about like there's been I guess I would say this in the last decade, there has been two decisions that I was like, Wow, that is if I'm ownership, I might be firing myself from making a decision the rest of the time because this is ridiculous that no one thought of this that, And like after the fact, after having a game like that, being like, man, maybe we need one of those guys who stands out there and helps us with like the clock and the decisions. And then probably Bill Belichick making Matt Patricia off it's a coordinating Oh yeah, along with Joe Judges like those two, Like putting those two in that position, that whole situation and everyone being like, yeah, this is totally normal. I was like, Wow, they're really gonna do this. 00:40:04 Speaker 5: Is unbelievably gonna do this. I mean, think how ridiculous to be of LeVar. 00:40:09 Speaker 6: If an offensive coordator came over, it's like, yeah, I'm calling defense this year, you'd be like, what you've never called defense in your life. 00:40:17 Speaker 4: You've never done it before, but you're just you think you're. 00:40:19 Speaker 6: Just gonna walk in the NFL and go, yeah, I'm gonna be a good defensive coordinator. 00:40:23 Speaker 3: Okay, pal alright. 00:40:24 Speaker 5: I've had decordinators with man boobs that acted like they were tough and called I'm calling the defenses. 00:40:31 Speaker 3: Say no names. 00:40:33 Speaker 4: So do you think in order to call good defense you can't have bad movies? 00:40:36 Speaker 5: No, I feel like you can, but I mean there's been some bad body coaches, but man, I just always say like wow, like you sure are a tough dude with some very very soft features. 00:40:49 Speaker 6: It is funny like between the defensive coaches and coaches, they kind of have to be a little bit of badasses and if they don't come off. 00:40:57 Speaker 5: That way, it's like even if your body's bad, you still got to come off as a badass. 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I want to go. 00:47:48 Speaker 1: Because we were the easiest one you took me. 00:47:53 Speaker 4: Just say I was often. I'm gonna take your team. 00:47:56 Speaker 3: Go ahead, take it. Then what are you gonna do? Go ahead? Yeah, exactly, Wait and see what I'm going to do. 00:48:03 Speaker 6: Go ahead, LeVar. That's not how we set this up. I gave you the opportunity, all right to pick which team you wanted, So take it, because I'm not gonna stand here and let you let you you know, bitch or get upset when I take. 00:48:17 Speaker 4: Your team, then go ahead, you guys put me in the toughest spot. 00:48:20 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm ready to go go ahead and go okay. 00:48:22 Speaker 6: So here's what we need though, Ian Before we do this segment, call, we get some some music that may make the most sense here. 00:48:28 Speaker 3: All right, all right, we have anything? 00:48:33 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, a little river band, tang, loads of loser, It's perfect, all right, Jonas, all right, t switch? 00:48:43 Speaker 4: Oh and three team you're riding with? Which is your ride or dive? 00:48:47 Speaker 2: All right? 00:48:47 Speaker 1: So, uh, I want to I want to preface this by saying this isn't going to happen. But if it were going to happen, let me sell you on the Miami Dolphins. 00:49:00 Speaker 11: Loss. 00:49:03 Speaker 3: Now, they have been the butt of many. 00:49:05 Speaker 1: Jokes on this show, and to be right, I would say that their fan base handles it a little better than the Bengals do. 00:49:11 Speaker 3: They're not. 00:49:12 Speaker 1: The problem is, I'm not sure that we know very many Dolphins fans. I know one, and you can't tell them anything about the organization. But I look at this organization and I go, all right, we understand the end is near. It seems like for Mike McDaniel, we understand that they're own three and the chances are slim they're going. 00:49:29 Speaker 3: To make a run of this whole thing. 00:49:30 Speaker 1: But if you look at their three losses, Indianapolis put them in a clown suit. I don't think anybody saw that coming. But upon further review. Indianapolis is much better than people expected. They've punched once on the year New England. They should have won that game, all right, Special teams, gaffes that sort of slipped through their hands. And then they go at Buffalo on a short week and they were competitive, and you can argue, if not for the interception by Tua, maybe that game turns out a little bit differently. The final score not really indicative of what that game look like. On their schedule remaining, you've got the Jets who are awful, the Panthers who aren't very good. You do have the Chargers mixed in there, but you've got Cleveland, You've got Atlanta, who the hell knows what's going on with Atlanta. They've got coaching changes and guys moving from the booth down on the field. There's a winnable set of games for the Miami Dolphins down the stretch, New Orleans, the Jets again, the Bengals are probably still going to have a backup quarterback at that time. You're going to close with New England. And I'll say this the AFC East. I thought New England would be better than they are. 00:50:40 Speaker 2: They're not. 00:50:41 Speaker 1: Miami's got a decent shot at making something of this year. Is it going to happen? Probably not. But if I've got to sell you on one team, I look at a team who's probably of all the own three teams outside of Houston, got the best quarterback of the bunch. It's two a tongue by Loa and the Miami Dolphins potentially making a run. 00:51:01 Speaker 4: Well done, we're out of applause, Well, Doug, oh, well done? 00:51:05 Speaker 5: Yeonas I'm gonna take the Houston Texans sticks picks. They've been here before this and this is a very simple explanation. They've been here before. They're well versed on it. Their offense has not played well yet this season three games in, and they have a very healthy amount of quarters that they have not scored points. The positive is is that they really kind of look rock bottom on the way that they're playing offense right now. And I think that there should be a little bit more time, a little bit more buy in in terms of confidence for CJ. Stroud to be able to start playing better. And if he does, I would say that that would vote very well for this team because their defense has played very well. Think about it. The Rams game they were in it could have been able to win the game. You're talking about a fourteen to nine win. That is a very low scoring affair, and your defense has put you in position to win that game. The same exists with the Buccaneers game where the Buccaneers were able to muster a very very average twenty points and exactly the same type of story in the Jacksonville Jaguars game where they were able to muster a staggering seventeen points in the game. 00:52:42 Speaker 3: Wow. 00:52:42 Speaker 5: So to me, when I look at this Houston Texans team, if I'm looking at the positives of this, sure you're zero to three, but your one good game of getting CJ. Stroud in this offense back on track. And if that defense, which has shown that they can be consistent and the limiting of what offenses are able to do output wise against them, they should be able to put together a nice string of victories that if they take it one game at a time, they can climb back to five hundred. And if this team feasibly that can climb back to five hundred within their schedule, especially the division that they reside in, they have a strong opportunity of finishing and being right there where they need to be in a division where we've seen a team that actually that is leading the division. 00:53:43 Speaker 3: They could take a nosed dive. It's possible that they could could fall off the cliff and what they're. 00:53:53 Speaker 5: You know, what their accomplishments and their wins look like as well. So it could be a seesaw shift for this division and it could be the Houston Texans that make a strong push to be that. 00:54:03 Speaker 4: Yeah, well done, well done, hanging through God's work. 00:54:08 Speaker 5: Talk about that's just the snails trail right there, that's all. 00:54:13 Speaker 3: I'll take a snail trail. Yeah, there you go. 00:54:16 Speaker 6: All right, Well, as we uh maybe foreshadowed in a way, I'd let you guys pick first. 00:54:22 Speaker 4: So you guys took two of the teams I think were decent options. But I've got one for you. 00:54:27 Speaker 6: I've got a team that there's kind of a love hate relationship probably with me and UH in this particular organization, I would say probably more hate towards me than love. 00:54:38 Speaker 4: But I digress. I told this fan base back when Zach Wilson was the quarterback that would stink. 00:54:43 Speaker 6: They didn't listen. They got upset about it. I haven't donated some money to charity. But you know what happened in the end, I was right. They didn't take to that very well. Then I told them I was I was behind them. 00:54:53 Speaker 4: I was rude for them. 00:54:54 Speaker 6: When Aaron Rodgers got there, well he got hurt, kind of threw a wrench in the entire thing there in New York. 00:55:00 Speaker 4: But I'm back. 00:55:01 Speaker 3: I'm back with you, you New York Jets. That's right. So we're going to see you do a celebration down the side line too. Huh oh. 00:55:12 Speaker 6: I'll be jotted, hip thrusting, doing all kinds of motions and things like I'm on soul train. But if you really think about it, all right, this is the schedule they've played so far. Pittsburgh, Buffalo at Tampa. Those are three of the best teams in the NFL, two of which they could have beaten. You could make the case they could have beaten the Pittsburgh Steelers week one. They probably could have should have, you know, maybe beaten the Bucks the way everything worked out last week, all right down in Tampa. Now, the Buffalo game got away from him. Full disclosure on that. I would admit that Buffalo's a little bit ahead of him right now. But going to Miami to play that hopeless team at this moment. All right, you got a Dallas Cowboys defense after that that's letting anyone walk in the door like a like a super eight. And you've got a Broncos team struggled thus far, but the Panthers then a backup quarterback in Cincinnati with with Jake Browning a bye week before you play the Browns. 00:56:07 Speaker 4: This thing sets up for the Jets to. 00:56:10 Speaker 6: Climb back out of the cellar, all right, crawl off that Motel six bed like some bed bugs. So New York Jets, brown don't feel like the lonsome loser, all right, they don't feel like the loadsome loser you got. You got a shot, You got a chance. Whether it's Tarad Taylor or Justin Fields. I hope that proounced to Rod. Right, it doesn't matter. This team can run the football, they play good defense. The passing game needs to improve. 00:56:40 Speaker 4: But you got a shot, and it starts this week against the Miami Dolphins. 00:56:48 Speaker 6: Against Levar's guy, which what's what what's he gonna say after this game, LeVar? 00:56:52 Speaker 5: If the Jets beat the Dolphins. If the Jets beat the Dolphins, I don't know what you what do you think, can I Mike McDaniels, I don't know. Well, I knew it was a where we could climb back into it. 00:57:08 Speaker 3: So so really it all comes down to I knew we were right here at it. So Brady and. 00:57:14 Speaker 1: Ice Picks are facing off this week, so a lot of it's going to be uh, a lot of the hope is going to die this weekend. 00:57:22 Speaker 4: This week. 00:57:23 Speaker 3: I knew that week. 00:57:25 Speaker 4: You're one hard hit on two away from basically dying. 00:57:28 Speaker 3: That thing that's really uh, nerve wracking to think about. Yeah, that's that's already off the rails. 00:57:36 Speaker 4: I got Dolphins fans reaching out to me right now as we talk about their team. 00:57:40 Speaker 3: So your team stinked. I mean I was stunned to see. I was stunn to see nobody pick New Orleans. 00:57:50 Speaker 1: Nobody wanted to Nobody picked that's like the guy who that's like the guy who's so guilty that no lawyer or lawyer or represent him. 00:57:57 Speaker 3: Like, now, listen, we got no shot. 00:58:03 Speaker 4: They are. 00:58:03 Speaker 6: But can I tell you why didn't pick them? Because I almost went the other way, but then I was like, here's the deal. We haven't seen Jackson darr yet. But I don't think Jackson, darr or even the quarterback positions the issues there. I think they're going to continue to struggle regardless of who's in that quarterback. Look, defensively, they're good. They might get that little pop because they've got a younger guy in there. Everyone's excited, blah blah blah. I just I have a hard time believing they're gonna be able to turn this thing around this year. 00:58:27 Speaker 3: I do. 00:58:28 Speaker 5: Weren't they like some long field goal kicks away from beating Dallas in a big game. I felt like that could have had a major impact on the early part of their season if they get that dub and it looked like they were about. 00:58:40 Speaker 3: To get it. The same thing for the Jets. If the Jets, well, the Jets have had. 00:58:46 Speaker 5: Yeah, they've had some heartbreakers. I mean listen, like those those celebrations didn't age well. You know, Coach Glenn was like bulking up, bucking up against the Steelers. 00:58:59 Speaker 6: Look at those hips, man, I was like, damn, back out there in the secondary. He still got it runs through. He needed to give some those hips for that for that Super eight. 00:59:11 Speaker 1: Yeah, my left hips get up in there. My left hips getting worse didn't Liner get two hips done? You get his hips replace this week this offseason? 00:59:21 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was. 00:59:22 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the soft season. 00:59:24 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:59:25 Speaker 5: Oh, I've heard when you get your hips replaced, what are you doing that for? Is it for hip thresting or. 00:59:32 Speaker 4: Is it just for wa functionality? I think it's yeah, I think it's for general general movement. 00:59:37 Speaker 1: And Andy Furman told me he got his done, and you're walking that day like you're up and out of the bed walking that day on new hips. 00:59:44 Speaker 3: Really, yeah, yeah, they've already told me. Yeah, there's like in my left hip. 00:59:50 Speaker 5: They look said, sir, you've been so active on this hip. You need to do on just the left side. Huh Yeah, how does that work? So when I you're not balanced? And how you hip thrust? 01:00:01 Speaker 3: When I when I dislocated my kneecap, it threw off, It threw off which kneecap? 01:00:07 Speaker 4: You act like that one injury has like plagued your because it did. 01:00:11 Speaker 6: I imagine all the other dude, imagine all the other athletes out there who have like other serious injuries and then they're like dealing with. 01:00:18 Speaker 1: The rest of By the way, that's the nicest thing he's ever said. All the other apps, all the other athletes. 01:00:22 Speaker 3: Yeah, he did say that. I was I was perplexed when he said it. 01:00:27 Speaker 5: I ain't gonna lie. I was like, wait, other athletes, Damn. I tuned out the rest of it. I didn't even hear the rest of it. Like the other athletes. 01:00:35 Speaker 3: We talked about the same game. What did you just say? All right, okay, Damn. 01:00:40 Speaker 5: That totally disqualified his pick for the New York By the way, all you Jets fans out there, I was okay with radwi Q until he's hit all the other athletes. 01:00:50 Speaker 3: Referring to Don jonas, I need a hip replacement from all the appletes. 01:01:00 Speaker 6: I donated like five hundred dollars. I think I donated one hundred dollars to different charities that year because yeah, because the Jets fans there's like people were outraged and there were such big Zach Wilson fans. I'm like, dude, I'm sorry, I just don't get it. He needs development. He's not ready yet. And like everyone took issue with that, and I was like, all, I bet, like, what's there over under on unwins where I was like, I'll give one hundred bucks to a charity for every single win they get, and I think they got to like five and then Jetson's like, oh yeah, and I was like, yeah, I'm legitimately donating to various New York charitable organizations and then it stopped, you know a long time. 01:01:40 Speaker 1: You know what I don't understand is the people didn't think that it's an attack on the player as opposed to know the situation they're in. Because if you remember that offseason two, their quarterback coach died. He was in a bike accident, died right before the year, So they had that going into the season and then Zach Wilson gets out there and like what did he have to work with? And so if you're making an assessment on hey, this guy's been put in a crap spot. It's not going to be ideal for his development, somebody comes out, Oh, why you. 01:02:11 Speaker 3: Such a hater? It's what are you talking about? Like this is the reality? Because I am a hater. 01:02:15 Speaker 6: There was There was a lot though that went into it because I said during the draft process, like I didn't Zach Wilson, I didn't have him as like a top five quarterback in that class and him as like the sixth, and the reason being is every time I watched him that year, because I was during the COVID year they were playing its lesser opponents. He would sit back in the pocket and have all day to throw, and then when he did throw, he would throw into like a team meeting where they've got a twenty six year old dude who's playing wide receiver, who's just like would Moss this lesser opponent they're going up against over two dudes, And I'm like, yeah, that's not translatable to the NFL, and people had issues with that. I'm like, he doesn't throw with a sense of anticipation. You know, a lot of the big plays you're watching, you're like, it's kind of like broke down plays that doesn't really work within the confine of an offense. And they were a team that was playing against a group of five, you know, teams. So I was like, yeah, this isn't like, this isn't good. And I went back and watched the years before, and I'm like, I see upside, but I just don't see a guy who's ready to walk in right now and start. And when you take a guy number two overall, that's what you're singing to your fan base, and that's what they kind of tried to do. So again, it wasn't anything against him. It's not that he doesn't have the ability to do it. It was just he was going to need more time to develop in my mind. And and again, Jets fans and fans in general just took that and ran with it and. 01:03:33 Speaker 4: The rest is history. But we did help out some good organizations. 01:03:36 Speaker 5: Yeah, you all know, on a separate topic, totally random, but I found this out and I thought it was pretty interesting what you got. I know, we got to go to break But did you guys ever realize that the buffalo that the Colorado Buffalo's run out with is a female? 01:03:53 Speaker 3: Yeah? 01:03:53 Speaker 4: Yeah, Ralphie seven is a female. 01:03:55 Speaker 3: I just never knew, Like, you know why that is? 01:03:58 Speaker 6: Hell? 01:03:58 Speaker 5: Yeah, I would love for them to run out with a male that they can't control. I know that that male would be way too big a bull. They're called bulls, right, I believe they're bulls. 01:04:11 Speaker 3: I know he would be. 01:04:11 Speaker 5: Too big, but could you imagine how physically imposing that bull would be if you came running out with him? So now listen, I get it, like, you can't have the mix of men and women running out with with him or I mean with her, But why would you name or her him and act as though you're running out with a dude like Bevo isn't He's not a buddy, he's not a girl. 01:04:37 Speaker 4: We got we got that going on. Just walk outside, got that going on? 01:04:41 Speaker 5: Fry you're in California, buddy, rolled down the window. Oh wow, So so what you guys are saying is is that that Yeah, that buffalo, that buffalo identifies with being a male. A lot of people in these parts aren't happy with their plumb Yeah, buddy. 01:05:01 Speaker 6: Like it's twenty twenty five. Have you not seen what's crawling outside around you? A buffalo identifying as a meal as a male. It's except that's the least surprising thing in twenty in back. 01:05:12 Speaker 3: You're the weird one. 01:05:14 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're the problem. 01:05:15 Speaker 5: My mind was blown having this conversation. Point just now you y'a you lose minded any more? Mind Sales that I had were just destroyed by what I just said. 01:05:28 Speaker 3: I do appreciate when you then. 01:05:30 Speaker 6: Apply like the nature aspect of it to that discussion, how ridiculous it sounds. You're like, wait, like imagine like like a bunch of buffaloes. They're like, hey, why is uh? Why why's Felicia call herself Ralphie. It's like she wants to run out with the Colorado football team. It's like, okay, I get. 01:05:52 Speaker 5: It, Hey, Melissa, why are you at the urnal? Well go try to milk the real Ralphie. Hey, just try, you know, don't try there. They're they're bulls, like they're they're they're mammals, you know what I mean? So you could probably mills nothing to grab down there. 01:06:10 Speaker 3: Well, there is there is, but it ain't the same. That's what I'm saying. It's try It's not a nutterer. How did we get here? It's not a nudder I don't know. 01:06:18 Speaker 4: But you gotta be careful because if. 01:06:19 Speaker 5: I'm just like that man, you might be you might be able to have a brisk wind, a brisk wind. The right scenario, how you realize you have to identify with what you are because that right there is a snail trail. 01:06:41 Speaker 4: A dude's so gassed up over there. 01:06:49 Speaker 1: That'll wrap up our coverage Off and three football in the NFL. This Bros and a cup of shoe Here on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington Brady Quinn, Jonas Knock to you all right's coming up next here We're we're going to talk about the end of an era in the world of football. But we do want to let you know that we're brought to you by DraftKings. This show is sponsored by DraftKings. It's the official sports betting partner of the NFL. And right now you can use the promo code two pros to claim your special offer at DraftKings. Again, that's Promo Code two PROS at DraftKings. 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