Hot Topic Tuesday: Bad Bunny vs Jill Zarin, RHOP Tea, and Exclusive LAMDC Divorce Drama

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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or scripted as well as we're talking about Bad Bunny and how all of us adored his performance, unfortunately the working people who did not like it. And the first person who I want to bring up is former Real Housewives of New York City star Jill's Darren, who recently announced last week that she, along with Ramona, singer, Luanne Sonya, Kelly ben Simone, they're doing a new show for E not for Bravo, but for the sister network E called pretty Much. I think it's called like the Golden Years, where they're following these former New York City housewives as they live in Palm Beach, Florida. So Jill Zaren went on Instagram after Bad Bunny performed and said that she did not like the performance, she wondered where all the white people were. She was saying that it was a political statement. She made some very disturbing comments. I want to hear from you guys. What I will say about I'll start by saying this. Listen, what Jill said to me was disgusting.

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Speaker 2: It was abhorrent, it was demeaning. You have this man who is.

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Speaker 1: Honoring his culture, and he's doing it on the main stage, and instead of looking at the world you live in, right, you can't even for fourteen minutes celebrate a man who is honoring his culture, who's honoring them, who's making statements based on his experience, And.

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Speaker 2: For you to live in your privileged.

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Speaker 1: Palace Upalm Beach and you're wondering where all the white people are. Imagine what it feels like to be a minority in America.

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Speaker 2: We wonder where all the black people are? Are the brown people, Hispanic agent, all all.

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Speaker 1: The races, and what you experience in fourteen minutes, we experience every day of our lives. I've experienced being on you black person working for a franchise that made you famous. Okay, So the fact that you would take your privilege and not only did you decide to record it on your iPhone. You even had the audacity, at your old age to say, my daughter told me to not post this to get off the phone because I may get canceled. Y'all tried to cancel me before, did it. Your ignorance is disgusting to watch. You don't have to worry about the world canceling you.

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Speaker 2: You need to be more concerned about.

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Speaker 1: Whether or not people are going to a tune in to this new show you have, or be if you're going to be on this show. At this point, I'm so sick and tired of people being so public with their disdain for anybody who doesn't look like them, and for you, at your old age to say something with your platform that is so demeaning to the very people who work on your show.

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Speaker 2: I would love to talk.

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Speaker 1: To Ebney k Williams, Hello Black on The Real Housewives of New York City. Imagine how she felt being the only one not for fourteen minutes of you watching it through your fucking TV screen. Imagine her living that life every day for three months of filming, dealing with micro aggressions. I had to my own podcast apologize to Emney K Williams for looking at this show for entertainment and allowing her to tell me by her experience and being like, oh my god, I have this all wrong. And I publicly apologized to Ebney K. Williams as she was the first guest on this very podcast that is watched by and listen to by white people. Blue said to me last year, Carlos, I haven't had so many white people hit me up saying I heard you in Reality with the King.

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Speaker 2: The white folks, Carlos, Right. So the thing is, we live in a world where we try our best to be inclusive, and what you did, Jill Zaren, was.

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Speaker 1: So divisive, and I followed you today, okay because of your ignorant ass statement and and you will not get any viewership from me on your new show. I'm I'm done trying to pacify you ignorant people who feel so proud to say something so blatantly racist.

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Speaker 2: Where are all the white people?

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Speaker 3: Was?

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Speaker 2: Was? What was it for me?

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Speaker 1: And because of that, Jill Zaren, you have there's nothing I'm giving you.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't ross.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, first of all, I go and agree with every single sentiment you just share with us, Carlos and thank you. With a platform as large as yours, Carlos, and as influential as yours, thank you for speaking directly to that, because that's not something that a lot of people are willing to do. They don't want to piss their audience off or risk people having a problem with what they said. But much like the real motherfucker that I know you are, you just stood in that.

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Speaker 4: So thank you, Carlos.

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Speaker 5: Yeah for me, first of all, Jill's Aaron what you did, and sharing your opinions on what she did. I'm not like I'm talking to our ass because I would never share space with her what she did when she shared her opinions on Bad Bunnies incredible halftime show by saying where are all the white people?

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Speaker 4: Those things are called dog whistles? Right, she can.

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Speaker 5: Pad it in the front with a statement like, oh, you know whatever it is it is, but I just wear all the white people, girl, right in front of your face. You said where all the white people? She said, rather where all the white people? But then went on to make some negative, nasty ass comments about lady God got a woman who's actually better looking than Jill's eron Jill's Aaron looks like the chromagnum.

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Speaker 4: She looks like evolution.

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Speaker 5: You know when they show the apes turning into humans and shit, that's what Jill's Aaron looks like.

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Speaker 4: Like.

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Speaker 5: She literally just got through doing like this, you know what I'm saying, like them evolution pictures. She got the gall She got the gall to open her mouth. First of all, we're not watching that mothball, liniment smelling ass show with them old ass Karens, which is what her and Ramona are, and I'm gonna leave it on them for now, but that's what those two are. We're not interested in watching them drink vodka and be irresponsible as old ass women. It's not interesting for me, especially when we know the filthy, disgusting history of their statements, views, and as you can see, Jills Aaron a person who could not resist the personal urge to share her feelings. She's not even mature enough to resist the urge to pressent. She got on the internet last night to do all of that because she's feeling herself. He's feeling herself because they got that television show deal on E, which the show couldnot be at a more fitting network because the letter E is a failing grade and the show is gonna fail, so it makes sense that that's where the show lives, right. I'm not interested in her. She looked like she smelled like white diamonds and Eastside peace. I'm not interested. I don't care nothing about what she's doing. I hope her golf cart crashes into a quarry rock wall and falls over in racist as ran DeSantis ass Florida, where they and how fitting the racist women who were removed and released from employment with Bravo because of their racist ass views are now feeling the show in Florida.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you can't really, it is what it is.

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Speaker 5: So fuck Jill's Aaron, Okay, she's a horrible looking woman her. She looked disheveled and as if she had literally rolled on the ground to lean up on the couch to make the video. She's a bum, she's a vagab We're not interested in anything she has to say. And I hope that she just goes away again because they already released her the first time.

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Speaker 4: That's all I got to say, Blue Mind, Well.

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Speaker 6: I was gonna try to be nice, but let's just tell the truth.

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Speaker 1: I heard.

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Speaker 6: Both of you touched on this certain Housewives, particularly the ones in New York.

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Speaker 7: The Jills, the Ramona, Derenda have a history of being very before Maga was Maga, they were Maga and the way that they move right, and I've always felt so disgusted by what they did to Ebony. So I will say that there's a little bit of extra salt in that too, because I'm like, you know, that's a person still right, like she's not the person. Yeah, I remember, Carlos, you just reminded me of something the way you were talking about Jills, exactly the way that Ron was talking to Derinda and Traders. And he would later go on threads and said, if you guys heard the nasty things she said to me that they never aired, it wouldn't suddenly look like I was just mad at her for no reason. I feel like we accidentally just threw Ron some bail right now too. He said, if you heard what I was responding to when I came at her like that, it wouldn't look like I just suddenly was just going off on her. And so, knowing that Derinda and Ramona and Jill are of the same, imagine the violence that he had to deal with that he just kept inside to get along and was still voted out and still showed grace on the way out. And so there's a level of grace that black and brown people have shown for centuries.

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Speaker 6: We tied, we tired. Nobody wants to watch Golden Girls on E not a backwash edition. Anybody checked for that right.

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Speaker 7: Blanche would never, Okay, Lebanese Okay, Blanche would never.

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Speaker 6: And so I'm disgusted and also relieved.

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Speaker 7: I love it when the trash takes itself out, when people revealed themselves.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, Jill, keep talking, okay, because the irony.

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Speaker 7: Is doesn't just compare you to the third monkey on the scale of evolution, and y'all keep calling us that name, but if you look at the pictures.

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Speaker 4: Then lived motherfucker.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 7: Also to Jill is he's fragile, right, because white supremacy is based on fragility. They get very fragile when they are not centered. They don't know how to hold space for others. I want to, as an immigrant and as an Afrolatina, I want to give a epic thank you to the Black American community, which doesn't get enough thanks. The way y'all showed up for Latin Americans and Caribbeans yesterday when we were having that epic moment, shows that there's a grace that African American people always have for other people that they rarely get in return.

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Speaker 6: Right, they rarely get it in return, but they're the first.

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Speaker 7: Ones to be ts part of recon. Everybody was part of recan yesterday, right right shat to ts Madison, there's a joy that Black Americans have. There's a joy for me as somebody who is a Black American but also Latin American, see the black and brown community come together like that. What really triggered her because she was like, if they realized that they have more in common than a part, they might realize that we're the shared enemy and suddenly they're gonna come for us and the things that we didn't even earn but stolen said it was ours to begin with. Right, So white supremacy in this fragility doesn't ever surprise me. Jill, I'm so happy you canceled your show before it aired.

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Speaker 2: Who was really.

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Speaker 7: Sponsoring this geriital like it was it was all a bad idea. Okay, let's just not and say we did keep talking home.

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Speaker 6: That's what I gotta say, all Right, go ahead, Claudia Jordan.

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Speaker 3: I have to quote a black queen, Miss USA nineteen ninety three. When I saw her, Who is this?

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Speaker 4: I've media?

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Speaker 3: I don't know again, another white woman that has to be white centered, and when you're not, you're freaking out. The real issue was this, as you sat there looking like you are aging like organic bananas in the hot Arizona or Floridian sun, you're angry. Every single woman and man in bad Bunnies routine with gorgeous with black with brown, had afros, had wavy hair, had full lips, hipped, little waists, all the things you can never have as you sit there in your place, are privileged with with hair that's closer to the monkey species. It's more like fur. That's why you get light and we don't. You have a spots on your chest because you're allergic to the sun, because you're a little bit partan animal DNA, you're not all the way human. You can look at. Black people are the only people on earth that do not have any traces of animal DNA in their DNA. Let's talk about you're not flexible, you have osteoporosis, your lacks are tolerant, you have brittle, weaker bones than black people. We have stronger, healthier like just athletic bones. We have fast switch muscles, black and brown. You have none of the things you eat raw meat. You like your meat with the heart beat and a pulse again, aging like organic bananas in the sun. You're angry at these people. We are people of the sun. The sun loves us. The sun loves the things that's supposed to be here are embrace the sun. You are a she devil on a show. I've never even seen you on television. Today is my first day seeing you, and I'm like, who this customer service ass bitch talking about the Super Bowl show? Why she got a platform? I looked you up and lo and behold, she was part of a franchise that are Wow, didn't know that, and you're someone married you but you know, hey, oh just someone for everyone anyway, it's Jill's or whatever your name is. Your show looks like it's gonna be boring as fuck. No one wants to see it. We've tried. We've seen it before in other franchise when they put boring ass white women together with no flavor and who have who can't stand black people? Most likely you're just a miserable old bitch, an old and I look forward to the day your show gets canceled. It looks like you've canceled, like said, before it even started, So bitch, fuck you. How about that?

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Speaker 2: This is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King.

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Speaker 4: Let's get back into the show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And then what I want to end on is also Taylor Armstrong formerly The Real Housewives of Orange.

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Speaker 2: County, also posted something in regards to.

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Speaker 1: The They had a Cuban flag and it was just and and and listen, and I'll end by just saying this, and we're gonna move on from it.

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Speaker 6: Nasty.

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Speaker 1: If y'all only knew how some of your favorite reality stars really do feel. And I know that it's easy to sometimes look at what some black reality stars do when they're interfacing with these situations, and they may not do things that we would do, But.

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Speaker 2: I implore you to always understand that.

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Speaker 1: It's rooted in some place, and sometimes people's behavior get rewarded far too long.

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Speaker 2: And what I will say is I'm not surprised by this based on my.

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Speaker 1: Eighteen years being a part of reality television, and I've heard tons of things from people working on shows with some of these women, and you'll be surprised.

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Speaker 2: Well maybe you won't be. I don't think we're surprised anymore. But some of these people, the way they treated black producers, I'm just gonna call it out. What's abhorrent.

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Speaker 1: And I agree with all of you when you say, like, actually, thank you for showing us who you really are.

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Speaker 2: And Taylor Armstrong, I unfollowed your ass to I'm not.

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Speaker 4: I don't know why you was following her funny looking at us in the first place. We've been over her for years. She got sat on that reunion. She came back as a friend.

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Speaker 5: She had on that dress that everybody already had on, that gradient rainbow dress.

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Speaker 4: It looked horrible on her.

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Speaker 5: Her skin was all spotted, liver spotted, the fuck up lips spread all across her, motherfucking ear lobes on both sides of our goddamn face, hair, stringy, split ends, loud mouth, horrible home, horrible backstory. If you look into what happened to Taylor Armstrong and that husband and his death, it was horrible things attached to her and her story. So her even being able to come from the ashes of obscurity okay in the OC and show up in the OC on that show transitioning from her Housewives of Beverly Hills, which she never had any business being on. She wasn't stylist, she did not, she wasn't. There was nothing aspirational about her. If anything, Taylor Armstrong only showed us a life we don't want to live. That's all she ever showed us on reality television show. She got the gall to put herself over the face of a Gladdie her from that movie when she literally looks like she was in that movie bleeding heart sentiment, fat lips, blew up lips, horrible plastic surgery, emaciated, thin, horrible looking neck, snatched, wretched, pulled neck, looking horrible.

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Speaker 4: Like somebody cook. She looked like somebody put a lemon wedge and.

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Speaker 5: Some kosher salt on her asshole and took a dirt devil and put it on the whole. That's what she looked like, like I just sucked everything out her motherfucking ass. So we're gonna talk about people were living in a time this is funny and all of that other shit, but were living in a time where it's literally about good versus evil or right versus We're all it is not hard to be a kind, compassionate person to others in the world. It's not hard to understand what other people are going through and figure out how you can help and make things better. That's a conscious choice that them ugly ass motherfuckers like Jills Aaron and Taylor Armstrong are choosing to make when it comes to being hateful and supporting these horrible views and not wrapping your arms around each other in community no matter what you look like, because that's what we need right now. So that's why I don't give a fuck about saying Taylor Armstrong looks like a Marlboro cigarette.

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Speaker 4: That's why one point to.

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Speaker 6: Make for Claudia who doesn't know who Taylor Armstrong is, and for the.

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Speaker 4: Audience, thank God for that.

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Speaker 6: For the meme, there's an infamous meme of a gaunt faced, blonde woman screaming and pointing, and the other side of the meme is a cat looking. Oh, I love the cat and that meme the cat.

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Speaker 7: Yes, Taylor Armstrong is the gaunt, prick keeper looking white woman on the other side of the cat meme. Also, the phrase that comes to mind is that equality feels like a loss when you're used to being in a place of privilege, so human makes them feel like they're losing something to direct conflict for them.

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Speaker 3: I just don't get the arrogant. When you have it all allegedly right, you're still find a way. They're like, well what about us? Like y'all, y'all are everywhere? Where are the white people? You left the caves, you left Europe? They're Viking ansels who left the island to go be up everyone and take everybody's land because your land wasn't fertile, and you're everywhere, Like you won't be happy until no one has anything else except y'all. And now when you get that life you want, you're gonna be bored out of your mind because you can't have Taco Tuesdays, you can't have Soulful, you can't do soul train lines because you have no culture and you're mad at people that do. Like just like, I'm not Latino, but I was happy that Latino people have been so under attacked this year of lately. They had their moment just like last year. It was after election. We were devastated, right and we had a very black sup Bowl, and it made our he helped our hearts just a little bit. White people, when you guys are the minority, hopefully by twenty forty five, and you're oppressed, if you are, okay, if the Good Lord sees it to be that way, then maybe we will have some empathy and be like, oh man, I let the white people shine where the white people. But y'all have a monopoly of everything. So calm the fuck down. You're fine, and you're rich and you look like that. Okay, Sorry, Carls. I know we've been reading this.

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Speaker 4: Thing since we're fucking talking about it.

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Speaker 5: Not liking the super Bowl performer or it should have been Chris Brown, shut the fuck up, and it's not up to none of us to pick who the super Bowl performer is. Of course, hell I wish Betty right when it did the super Bowl halftime. So we're just picking who we liked. Put Keisha Cole up there, you know what I'm saying. But we're not making those choices. There's nothing wrong with enjoying the show. Allow yourself to be entertained by some other shit.

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Speaker 4: You don't have to like it.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't mean that something wrong was done or there was any egregious act that took place.

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Speaker 4: By installing him as a Super Bowl performer.

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Speaker 5: Enjoy the show, or take your ass in the kitchen and get a drink like everybody else and come back to the game after the halftime show is over. It's not your place to say what you thought it who should have been? It's not up to y'all. Somebody you like, it's somebody you like. If somebody you don't like, let that be its man.

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Speaker 3: They have the White Bowl, the Turning Point Bowl.

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Speaker 6: The I watched it, it was by it was trash.

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Speaker 3: It's a very sad widow of Tie sad. I'm so sick of bitch and fireworks.

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Speaker 6: That's the happiest what I've ever seen in my life.

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Speaker 1: Well, like I said, as a as a person who never heard a bad Buddy song, I thought he did a stell a job and I enjoyed minutes of it. Moving on to another topic, I was, but listen. I think it's a topic that will lighten the mood a little bit.

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Speaker 3: But listen.

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Speaker 1: Also aside, I'm glad we used this because one thing about mother and I lie we never talked about politics. Because I listen, I made a conscious decision to really for once a week to have people enjoy something that isn't on the news. However, this was important for me to address because it was the intersection. Uh, it wasn't about politics, honestly, It's about the ignorance of a reality star. So again, I'm glad we all decided to talk about that. Are you guys ready to talk about Potomac really fast?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, so.

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Speaker 2: Let's throw.

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Speaker 1: So.

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Speaker 2: Ashley Darby did an interview recently and.

00:23:34
Speaker 1: She talked about how she has given her blood, sweat and tears to the Real Housewives of Potomac and when asked about people saying that she doesn't have a storyline, she said that she does film things.

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Speaker 2: With storylines, it's not her decision on what gets shown. However, she did say so for those.

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Speaker 1: Who think I don't have one, she doesn't care what you guys think, Claudia. A lot of people, there's a lot of people who are demanding that Ashley Darby is either demoted to a friend or just.

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Speaker 2: Off the show. They feel like her time is up.

00:24:22
Speaker 4: You know, they.

00:24:22
Speaker 1: Appreciated what she brought to the show, but they feel like she has nothing to talk about, and they don't give two shits about who she dates, nor what's going on with her mom, Sheila.

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Speaker 6: How she gonna catch a story?

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Speaker 3: I know, unpopular opinion. You know, I'm tomic. I just started really watching it this year. Okay, she doesn't bother me like she bothers on people because she's a shit starter, and if she was, if someone wasn't stilling the pot, we'd be like boring. We need someone to strow the pot. So she that's her role. Her role isn't to have the A character. Uh you know, there's the A cast and the Bee cast. I think she's more than be cast. I don't think she's a friend. I think she's there to stir the shit up and kind of keep be petty. She backs up Giselle. There's a place for her there. I find some of her antics entertaining. I can see if you've been a long time views the show, maybe you have a different opinion, like, oh, why didn't like in season three she did this in season.

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Speaker 1: I don't have that.

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Speaker 3: I'm just talking about this season. She talked to her shit, and if she didn't talk her shit, people would be mad that it's boring. It's kumbaya. If they do talk this shit. She don't have a storyline. We don't know what gets left on the editing floor. I don't know. I do think she I mean, we have talked about some of her antics. Fucking with her friend, the friend's son, that was wild. She does try a lot to be the sexual person. Yeah, but again, it's a reality show. In real life would have be annoying probably, but it's TV, so I don't take it as a seasons the first.

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Speaker 7: Season, we can tell you're that you star. She's a one trick pony. That's the problem, Claudia. So you're watching her one trick. Next year you're gonna watch the same copy and baste water down version of the same antics. That's why we're tired. And that's the thing about ash She's unoriginal, she's transparent.

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Speaker 6: Here's the thing.

00:26:02
Speaker 7: Chiselle can be an original and transparent, but there's a fun about it in a weird way, you know what I mean.

00:26:07
Speaker 6: Like Giselle is almost like a cartoon character who's in on the joke.

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Speaker 7: Ashley takes herself seriously in ways that are cringe, like when she's trying to go to Marcus, when she's trying to pretend she can dance and sing. It's like somebody invite you to their kids, reciteal and you can't go home. And nobody bought tickets for this play? Like can we all we bought the chocolates we donated to the girls?

00:26:27
Speaker 6: How where's the cookies at? Can we go home?

00:26:28
Speaker 4: Now?

00:26:29
Speaker 6: Go to Marcus, Go to Marcus? Oh god stop, I just can't.

00:26:34
Speaker 7: I'm tired. I'm tired being a light with this lady. Send her home, set her own. What is the cherry blossoms, peaches of a crew?

00:26:41
Speaker 6: Cocktails? Home and you look better as a man. So here's the thing that she was on drag races like a guest, like co star whatever. That'd be fun.

00:26:50
Speaker 7: Okay, when Astley's pretending to be for the gays and doing a little thing, that's fun a little bit until she pretends she is gay herself, which we don't believe that, baby, But like, stick to the old man in the rivers and the lakes that you were used to.

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Speaker 6: You had a good run, You had a good run.

00:27:04
Speaker 2: Sis, that's the wrong.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I'm actually gonna side with my sisters on this one, both of y'all, Claudia and Blue I'm with Claudia Ashley's antics. Although they might not be you know, my choice or my you know favorite, they're relevant and they keep the engine moving and running when it comes to the real hustiles of Potomac.

00:27:25
Speaker 4: That's why she's been there from day one.

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Speaker 5: So I think that Ashley has avoided a lot of conversations that would really ground her with the viewers and really like allow us to really crack through the facade of entertainment that she brings. I would love if she comes back next season, which I feel like she will, because honestly, there's no reason not to bring her back.

00:27:49
Speaker 4: If she comes back next season.

00:27:51
Speaker 5: I would love to see Ashley asked about her personal constitution of blackness on camera.

00:27:58
Speaker 4: I would like to hear ash asked.

00:28:00
Speaker 5: About how she feels about being a biracial woman and shit, and I would love to see her expound on that and really defined her what her constitution of blackness means to her beyond using a black colloquialism when she sees fit.

00:28:17
Speaker 4: Things like lying ass whole or hating ass bit.

00:28:22
Speaker 5: You know, the things that she says that are identify our colloquialisms, right, but they don't align with everything else she brings to it.

00:28:31
Speaker 4: We've never really seen her date a black guy on this show. I know she dated a black guy on.

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Speaker 5: Love Hotel, or she entertained the advances of a black guy on that show, but we ain't seen that on Potomac. I would d And we've never seen her have a conversation with her family, her mom, uncle, Lump. We ain't never seen her have a conversation with none of them pertaining to that. So that's what I would like to see to show with her, ask her about it, ask her like, Ashley, why did you go to the to the Trump White House, the White House correspond his dinner or whatever the fuck you went to?

00:29:01
Speaker 4: Why did you go to that? Why did you?

00:29:03
Speaker 5: Why are you a Lani and so with these people? Like, what's up with you and your blackness? I would love to see that explored. If we do that, there's your storyline.

00:29:11
Speaker 4: I would definitely ask about that.

00:29:14
Speaker 3: I do not like a by racial girl that does not claim the black side. I do not like that at all. That pisces me off.

00:29:21
Speaker 7: Actually so all she doesn't stand out to her white daddy's house and tells him to come out.

00:29:25
Speaker 6: He's like just come out. I'm not gonna beat you up, and that man never comes out.

00:29:28
Speaker 7: That's all we's seen about her family in that way, I would like her to show as much of an investment to Dustin's point and being with her blackness.

00:29:35
Speaker 3: So it sounds like she has the thing there to have like quite a storyline if she would be open to that, because that would be a whole bunch of conversation starters right there.

00:29:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the reason why I'm with Dustin.

00:29:47
Speaker 1: Actually, a group of all three of you guys, listen, Ashley Darby and Giselle Brian are the last.

00:29:54
Speaker 2: Standing ogs on the show.

00:29:59
Speaker 4: And I'll to just on a second.

00:30:01
Speaker 1: Ashley brought a lot of life to the earlier seasons of the show when she was married to Michael Darby. Michael Darby was this very interesting person that she was married to, but it made the show great because it was something you never seen.

00:30:20
Speaker 2: She's a self admitted sugar baby, right.

00:30:23
Speaker 1: She only dates wealthy men, and not only just wealthy men, they have to be extremely older than her.

00:30:29
Speaker 2: That's that's that's what she likes.

00:30:31
Speaker 1: And and the moment he decided not to do the show anymore, that's when her personal storylines became less to be desired. There was there was nothing that had meat on the bones that you gravitated towards. She's always been messy and and and and you're my Claudia. As a reality producer myself, you always want a messy person. I if I could haves a Kenya Moore on all of my shows, I'll be happy.

00:31:01
Speaker 2: Now I do have a couple of other shows. But hey, with that being said, hey, y'all, collector.

00:31:10
Speaker 1: With that being said, one thing I will say is my concern with Ashley is what Blue says. She is a one trick pony, and Ashley is there to be messy and get the check and move on.

00:31:25
Speaker 2: And that may be okay if that is your intention.

00:31:30
Speaker 1: But what the other ladies do on that show, well, is they at least make it seem like they care and act. Ashley has not forged a true friendship with anybody. I will say this, do I want Ashley to be on the show full time? Only if everything you guys said she should bring I agree with. In addition to I'm only interested in seeing her and Cherise have a real sit down conversation.

00:32:03
Speaker 4: I want to say, I want to see, like what the fun you said about my son?

00:32:11
Speaker 2: I want to see real conversations.

00:32:13
Speaker 1: I've been very open about the thing that some of the ladies with Potomac is I want I want the show to get back to, like, let's talk about something real. You dating this guy off summer house or love hold, Like that's not real? Your thing with your mama. I feel sorry for miss Sheila, but what's going on with you? So to know that you made out with your son, your friend's son, that is interesting. Is the reason why Sherry Shepherd watched Reality with the King and Butcheries.

00:32:47
Speaker 2: It's the reason why.

00:32:52
Speaker 4: Okay, that's true, it literally happened. That's why I just called what happens.

00:33:04
Speaker 2: Cherry Hey, shary producers.

00:33:06
Speaker 6: I love y'all.

00:33:09
Speaker 2: But my point, my point is saying that was.

00:33:11
Speaker 1: More so like Sherry Shepherd contacted Charise because my interview, my interview with her, she exposed a lot, and everybody had, even Dustin and Claudia and you blew you either.

00:33:26
Speaker 2: We all have strong opinions about it.

00:33:28
Speaker 1: So my point is I don't have a strong opinion about anything Ashley does, but.

00:33:35
Speaker 2: This one, I'm like, I want to see this. So my thing is bring Cherise back for a few episodes.

00:33:41
Speaker 1: I want the season to be started with Chariz and Ashley one on one. I want to see Giselle confront Charisse for saying you you aligned with other women to get me kicked off the show. These are things we want to see. We don't want to see Amazing the New Girl. We don't want to see y'all being Wendy's businessiness or Karen's business. That's five, episode four through eight. But let's jump start this show with some real storylines. And that's the only way I albould want to see Ashley back full time.

00:34:14
Speaker 6: We just put us the whole next season, like somebody check us out.

00:34:17
Speaker 2: That's just that. Speaking speaking of.

00:34:22
Speaker 1: Giselle, Her and Robin's podcast Reasonably Shady, they taped their episode to where they talked about Karen Huger's interview. We talked about it last week, Claudia and Dustin Bleue, you weren't here. We'd love to get her thoughts. But first and foremost, Robin felt that Karen had no real accountability. Robin felt that she wasn't open and honest truly about her alcoholism. She Robin felt that what she wanted to hear from Karen. Was drunk driving is bad. I should have never got behind the wheel. I could have killed somebody.

00:35:01
Speaker 2: That's what Robin would have.

00:35:03
Speaker 4: Wanted to see.

00:35:04
Speaker 1: And she felt that Karen, who she said, we know a lot about Karen. She just thought that Karen wasn't being wasn't holding herself accountable for the drinking. I want to start with blue only because we did not get your thoughts on the Karen Huger one on one interview.

00:35:22
Speaker 2: What did you think about that? And then do you agree with Robin? Do you agree with Robin?

00:35:28
Speaker 3: Oh?

00:35:28
Speaker 7: Man, I'm about to answer this in a way that I never thought I would answer any question involving Robin. Karen did a great job of feigning sincerity while giving herself back in the compliments.

00:35:43
Speaker 6: It was like, oh, you know, I'm so sad by the way these braids.

00:35:46
Speaker 7: You know, all the girls took a chunk of hair and braided their hair, or oh I tried to be everybody's mama, or you know, I didn't want him to watch that video.

00:35:54
Speaker 6: I didn't even watch that video. I should have listened to my lawyer. What's what's in the video? Though? Can you talk about what in the video.

00:35:58
Speaker 7: It's like it's like the the water was swirling the toilet bowl, but nobody ever flushed.

00:36:03
Speaker 6: I kept waiting for somebody.

00:36:04
Speaker 7: To flush it, and so it felt like a tease. And the irony is the same thing that Robin saying about Karen. We all said about Robin when it comes to one. So I guess it takes one to no one. That's awkward.

00:36:17
Speaker 1: Huh.

00:36:17
Speaker 6: You suddenly understand nuance and accountability?

00:36:19
Speaker 1: Robin?

00:36:20
Speaker 7: What happened all them damn seasons because the man apparently went to the hotel and then he had let me stop.

00:36:25
Speaker 6: Anyways, I'm back, I'm back. You mentioned Robin. I was triggered, So I'm just.

00:36:31
Speaker 2: Gonna say I got me another confrontation with Robin. She could confront me, So.

00:36:41
Speaker 6: Say, Robin, I agree, because it takes one to no one.

00:36:47
Speaker 2: Dusted.

00:36:50
Speaker 6: I was lucky I wasn't here last week.

00:36:51
Speaker 2: Sorry.

00:36:52
Speaker 4: Here's the thing.

00:36:53
Speaker 5: Karen was dead ass wrong for getting four motherfucking dui s Okay. She endangered a lot of people on the road and including herself others. It was it was egregious for her to get four DUIs, and she served her time that she was that she deserved, right, and that's the end of that story, right, But that does not negate the fact that that is so rich coming from Robin fucking Dixon to demand accountability or direct speak to an issue, direct speech to an issue. When Robin filmed an entire season of the Real Housewives of Potomac and ignored a a breach in her marriage covenant, okay with with quote unquote receipts and y'all digging online ass niggas love that, you know what I'm saying. She even had those and ignored it and then had the gall and audacity to sit on that couch and put it because you know, she was sitting on the couch on her phone when she did it and put it behind a payroll, a paywall on Patreon. I was actually the bartender on Watch What Happens Live. My baby Evany K. Williams was the guest when Robin had to hold She had to be to answer to that, when Andy had to They had to literally bring her and watch What Happens Live to get her to speak directly to an issue that she withheld and purposely like shielded from the show for an entire season. So for her to open up her mouth and say that Karen should be accountable for whatever the fucker she didn't like. Karen be an evasive Robin, you literally have spent years being evasive and vague when it came to whatever was going on between her and her husband. So it's kind of misaligned, you know what I'm saying. I love the fact that Robin was not afraid to share her opinion about it. That's the things that make a great housewife, right, So love Robin or hate her, she was able to have.

00:38:46
Speaker 4: An opinion and we're talking about it, right.

00:38:48
Speaker 5: And yeah, great podcast host for sure, because she's not a housewife no more so you're right, great podcast host. Incredible talent on that show that's in it, whatever year is, they been doing it for a while. However, it just is miss aligned because ain't no future in your front and Robin, to quote the great mc breed, you are a person who literally has ran away from accountability, from definitive speech and all of those things for years, so much so you would't even get out the damn bed on the camera.

00:39:21
Speaker 4: Okay, and now you got the goal to try to demand that from Karen. It's just not right. That's all.

00:39:29
Speaker 2: Apollonia, Jordan.

00:39:35
Speaker 3: I'll have a different stance because, as someone that speaks on other people's lives for a living, if I had to qualify what I can and kinnot say about someone based on whether my life has been perfect or if I made good choices, I probably would't have a shit to say about anyone.

00:39:50
Speaker 4: Well, two things will be.

00:39:52
Speaker 3: True at the same time. I think that you can have had a fucked up pass or you could have made your mistakes, hence why you can actually now speak onccountability once upon a time you weren't. And I'm maybe I'm a little more open minded or call a naive. I actually, you know, I know a lot of people don't like Robin. I love how she's shown up on this podcast, you know what I mean, And I kind of I love that. I love that she's like, you know what, I know, people probably gonna come for me because of my past and me not being held accountable and me not be taking accountability. But even with that being said, I'm still going to stand on business of what I think about this situation because the podcast, the subject was not about her. It's not about her on want It's not about how he let her, she let him play in her face. It's none of that and none of.

00:40:33
Speaker 7: Us, Claudia, you still worked it in because you're a good podcast host, so podcast host, even Joe, all the podcasters will say.

00:40:40
Speaker 6: I know it's rich coming from me, y'all, but I should know.

00:40:42
Speaker 2: You just did it right there.

00:40:43
Speaker 6: You just did the thing that she didn't do.

00:40:45
Speaker 3: I did. But I guess I'm a little less judge because I've asked people to forgive things of my past and my past and not look at me as you are not qualified to speak on a B and C because once upon a time you did this and all that they could be that like, we can have more grace. I do understand, and I don't again. I'm just coming on this season, okay, right there, I am, I'm fresh eyes, and and my only experience with her is I went for drinks with her after watch What Happens Live. I liked her because I'm not a message from the show. I'm not mad from the show. I also understand people hating you or not liking you based on your time on a reality show.

00:41:27
Speaker 4: In this case specifically, it's relevant.

00:41:31
Speaker 5: And that's the only thing because I'm with you Claudia, Literally, we're in the business of opinion and people are not always going to like what we have to say, and some people will feel like we don't have a place to even form an opinion. Right, But with Robin Dixon speaking on another cast member from Potomac, her history and her time on the show now becomes relevant to the conversation, and in her case specifically, it was so extreme, the effort to circumvent accountability was so extreme and so blatant on her behalf. Knowing you as a person, Claudia, had you watched the previous seasons of R H O P, you would understand why people are like, I know, yo, ass.

00:42:12
Speaker 4: You, you would get it.

00:42:13
Speaker 5: But but from where your your perspective currently totally get it, totally fair.

00:42:19
Speaker 4: And actually agree with you.

00:42:21
Speaker 5: My perspective is just different because I've seen her, I know the history, and that's where that comes into play.

00:42:27
Speaker 3: But yeah, and also and I see some of the comments, I'm going to be on the side of the light skin, yes, because I agree with everyone called. Okay, I will say this, there is a difference to me. There's one thing, whether she is personal to me, the way my husband's playing in my face, embarrassing fuck out of me and how I choose to handle that. That is different than speaking on someone that could have killed many people. And that's I just think it's different.

00:42:57
Speaker 4: I really do.

00:42:58
Speaker 3: I think it's apples oranges. Yes, accountability is accountability if I do think it's two different things. And I actually agree with everything she said about Karen, and I like Karen. I like Karen. We are so happy that no one was injured. We are so happy that no one got killed. And you know, it's a what if thing, but we are and we gotta, we gotta be really about that. It could have gone really bad. And I think it's a little more serious. We're letting someone where you could have put people in harm's way, in death way than a cheating asked man, a man that's playing your face hotels receipts. I heard some stuff about it which I'm like, wait, what so yeah, yeah, no, I'll.

00:43:33
Speaker 1: Say this to listen, all of you guys make really great points that I actually agree with. The thing that I will give Robin is this, I love the fact that Robin knows that she gets smoked easily.

00:43:47
Speaker 2: From the audience.

00:43:48
Speaker 1: Now, what I do love about her on this podcast is it still hasn't prevented her from telling her truth about her opinion. There's a lot of other Housewives, former house Wise, What Current who are so afraid to state their real opinion because they don't want the backlash, like how came a show gathered her right, how Rob gathered Gazelle. So I will always give Robin that. I think Robin is a great podcast because she's honest. I also think this.

00:44:21
Speaker 2: I'm I think Robin being removed from the show.

00:44:26
Speaker 1: First of all, she was very honest about being fired. Yeah, ninety eight percent of the girls who said they weren't they.

00:44:32
Speaker 3: Were everyone be lying. Oh I chose to not go back to.

00:44:37
Speaker 2: Focus on my family. Your family was on the show.

00:44:41
Speaker 3: Was eating out that eight hundred thousand dollars.

00:44:44
Speaker 4: So I do think this.

00:44:48
Speaker 2: I think if Robin ever got the chance and rain Drops.

00:44:52
Speaker 1: Tell me what you think of the comments Dustin, you two, especially Dustin, I I think if Robin got a second chance of being on Potomac, I think the I think Robin's firing humbled her and I think she understood what she should have done. And I am curious to see if she would be what Dustin and Blue are saying, is are you going to hold yourself accountable and tell us what's really happening in that household versus hiding getting your payroll?

00:45:29
Speaker 2: Okay, that was a quick vernon.

00:45:36
Speaker 6: I was I was about to wait.

00:45:39
Speaker 4: And we know it, we know it, we know it. She's not and it's okay.

00:45:44
Speaker 5: I appreciate her hot take on Karen and her on Karen's interview, and I think she's doing a great job having a pin and having something to say as a podcast host, which is literally your fucking job, and I think she's doing a good job at it. I'm with you, Claudia, Like I love the fact that she is honest and bold on her podcast. But she has shown us over the course of what does she do eight or nine seasons whatever it was, it was either eight or nine, she showed us, you know, literally time and time again, what she is going to do and what she's not willing to do. And I just don't think there's anything there to siphon from. I don't think there's anything there for us to get any unearth any gems.

00:46:29
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. We know what it is, you know what I'm saying.

00:46:33
Speaker 7: So I'm it's not people who grow until it's time to admit what they did, like people who are so evolved and so brave to Carlos's point, and sharing when they know the honest is just waiting to get her again, and they always stop short of the part where they have to make themselves uncomfortable. I think that's heavily suspicious. I actually think Claudia or your point made me feel even more of what I was saying about.

00:46:56
Speaker 6: Yes, there is a difference.

00:46:58
Speaker 7: Between keeping what's happening in your household a secret from putting people's lives in danger.

00:47:04
Speaker 6: And though Robin was part of many schemes that Todd.

00:47:07
Speaker 7: Did not set up that had an adverse impact on people's homes in ways that were psychologically damaging. And so it's like, if you have years of causing harm, years of causing harm to me, years of causing harm in people's households, and somebody doing what Karen did, even though they shouldn't be compared, they're both incredibly impactful, like I should I shouldn't have to shoot somebody in the face for me to take accountability. I think the bar for accountability is way too high, and the bar for pointing the finger other people is way too low. There's a gap in the way that her cognitive dissonance, where when it's somebody else, Robin is so reasonable, she's so brave, she's so clear when it's somebody else, and then this minute'es on her, it's mumbos McGee. There's something inherently dishonest in that. Now that I know that you're not stupid, because for a couple of hours like she's just dumb, apparently you're not dumb.

00:47:57
Speaker 6: You've been smart this entire time, not even more mad.

00:48:00
Speaker 5: Yeah, I never thought she was dumb. I always thought she was completely aware of it, exactly what she was doing.

00:48:05
Speaker 3: I will I understand what y'all both saying, And ask Stone, who's been on three or four reality shows. It ain't just Robin, it's most of these people. And that's why I'm like, it's just hard for me to be like, oh, Robin Robin when I'm like, I work with this one, I work with that one. I've seen this one. I seen fans not hold this one accountable because they like this person. I seeing fans hold this one because they don't like this person. And once they don't like you everything you do is wrong in time ten and everything their favorite does it's not so bad. Let's kip her Poul Well, we gotta understand. And I don't like that. That's the part that trick me where I'm like, yo, because if you like the person, it ain't the same standard of holding them accountable. And we see this. I'm not even gonna name names because they're gonna say I'm behater, but y'all already know. Y'all can pick a show, and every single show there was someone that gets extra smoke, someone that doesn't get enough. And that's the part that hits me off, that irritates me.

00:49:00
Speaker 2: I will say this, and I would want to tell many episodes.

00:49:03
Speaker 3: I need to go look at to see her being on some bullshit and then maybe I can come back.

00:49:07
Speaker 6: All right, Well, how did she act like you should be fine? You changed your mind so much, accountability so much.

00:49:15
Speaker 1: I will say this, and to Claudia's point, and I think I've said this on this on this podcast.

00:49:20
Speaker 2: I think I said it to you guys before.

00:49:24
Speaker 1: If Gizelle did what Karen did, it will be a different reaction from the audience. It would Gizelle if Gizelle would not be able to hear the last of it. So I do agree with Quality that when it comes to some of the fans, you guys definitely pick and choose which reality star you want to hold accountable.

00:49:48
Speaker 2: They do nothing wrong in your eyes. They get away with everything.

00:49:52
Speaker 1: And but that's my pay and whatever, you know what, whatever. But my point is, Claudia definitely ins fright about that. Some of these fans have selective memory when it comes to their fad doing some very dangerous things and y'all still want them on the show. But when your fade, may you know, be too mean to your whatever.

00:50:17
Speaker 2: You want them fire.

00:50:18
Speaker 1: But anyways, moving on to the best show in Bravo, which is marriyt To Medicine. Y my opinion, Marraton Medicine is the best show in Bravo. I've said it for years.

00:50:36
Speaker 4: I just think.

00:50:39
Speaker 1: The Maritime Medicine cast, in my opinion, is one of the best cast of women on television to be twelve seasons in.

00:50:51
Speaker 2: They give so much to that show still and I love everybody knows this.

00:50:58
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with this show. Now, I do want to talk about the seating chart. Claudia, are you familiar with Marition Medicine.

00:51:06
Speaker 3: The cast somewhat. I watched most of your interview, Okay, the last one and.

00:51:14
Speaker 6: Yeah, we'll get in too.

00:51:15
Speaker 4: That.

00:51:16
Speaker 2: The biggest thing though is Dustin and Blue and Claudia.

00:51:21
Speaker 1: There is a shift in Maritime Medicine because the reunion seating chart was revealed and historically, this is the first time, guys in twelve seasons that Jackie and Simone are not in the first chair because the way Merriton Medicine seating chart was. They love the fact that these female doctors were the face of the show called Marthion Medicine.

00:51:52
Speaker 2: They've had first chair since the inception of the show. Beans have changed, guys.

00:51:57
Speaker 1: First chair went to Toya Bush Harris and quad Web. The other shocking thing is doctor Heaviley is a friend to the show this season. She is sitting above doctor Mimi, who is a full time cast member. Dustin, what were her thoughts on this seating chart that really showed, well, you guys probably can see it where it really showed that Marthon Madison is doing something different.

00:52:30
Speaker 2: And I for want am here for the change.

00:52:32
Speaker 4: I'm here for the shakeup.

00:52:34
Speaker 5: I'm one of the people who does believe that Doctor Jackie and Doctor Simone need to be a part of the mix, So I'm fine with them not sitting first chair.

00:52:43
Speaker 4: I still want those ladies on the show, so let's just get that up front. Okay.

00:52:48
Speaker 5: Outside of that shout out to first chair, Quad, Baby, you know what I'm saying. If I and if I was quiet, I would have made the motherfuckers call me Quadrilla all day. I'd of went by my governor pretty name Andria, okay, because you're in the first chair and you're presiding in that way.

00:53:05
Speaker 4: So it was good.

00:53:05
Speaker 5: And as a day one, season one, episode one fight by the pool between Toya and Mariah watch or viewer married to medicine, I was happy to see Quad in her first chare.

00:53:18
Speaker 4: I was happy to see that.

00:53:19
Speaker 5: So I'm looking forward to the reunion. It is my hope that doctor Mimi watched your incredible interview with Toya and Eugene Harris, because I really wanted doctor Mimi to. I really hope that when they film the reunion, doctor Mimi was able to be inspired by the comments that Toya made and cuts her ass out on the stage.

00:53:42
Speaker 4: So I really hope that that's what happened.

00:53:44
Speaker 3: Yeah, can I ask y'all like, okay again?

00:53:48
Speaker 1: First, Oh, okay, brain drops, don't tell about it's between us.

00:53:56
Speaker 2: Okay.

00:54:00
Speaker 8: I heard allegedly that my interview with Toya LaToya definitely had a lot to say gets.

00:54:11
Speaker 2: Brought up at the reunion and baby, oh.

00:54:17
Speaker 4: Wonderful, look at you doing the work?

00:54:20
Speaker 2: Well will.

00:54:22
Speaker 1: It?

00:54:23
Speaker 2: Toya earned her first chair, and I'm gonna have Claudia finished.

00:54:27
Speaker 1: I'll just say this claw Quad and Toya deserve first chair, and I think we're in for an amazing reunion.

00:54:38
Speaker 3: Or Claudia, look at college producing from outside the club can't even get in. Okay. So again, I'm not a history of Mariti medicine either. I just watched a lot of murder documentaries. Okay, that's either hearing nor that. So I've always heard about you know, Quad's got a big personality. This is her first time and all she's never been first chair. All you I like to hear about was Quad from marriage to medicine and she never did. What season do you think she should have had first chair? Is there a season you think she should have had first chair?

00:55:11
Speaker 5: Absolutely the season that her and her husband Greg broke up. There was the season where her and Mara was that season two when they were arguing, when Quid was like, this is not about a show, this is Mike life.

00:55:24
Speaker 4: What season was that?

00:55:29
Speaker 5: Okay, Well, that year she should have been first chair because she was the center of Well, I forgive me because I don't mean that.

00:55:36
Speaker 4: I don't mean she should have been first chair.

00:55:39
Speaker 5: It would have made sense if they were building a building it around the story that drove the season, it would have made sense for her to have the first chair. But I'm a motherfucker. I don't care where they sit. As long as you're on that stage, you can handle your business. We all just saw Drew Sider, your cousin Claudia literally leaning on the end of that couch tearing the ass up left and right at the last union for Atlanta season sixteen.

00:56:01
Speaker 3: So from lane eight, from lane eight to on the track.

00:56:04
Speaker 4: Lane eight for ours and Field Brethren and Sisty.

00:56:10
Speaker 5: But but I just so, I don't care. But I get it, you know what I'm saying. And I'm happy to see Quad in that seat Blue to loose man.

00:56:18
Speaker 6: I'm here's the thing. I love me an underdog. I know what it's like to have bitches mad just because you breathing.

00:56:25
Speaker 7: And so the fact that they have repeatedly and unsuccessfully tried to stay your coup against this young lady miss Quad and miss Quad miss Quad, the fact that I think Simon has more dreams about Quad than her husband, the fact that they are so bothered that even single Claude.

00:56:40
Speaker 6: Is like, she's still that girl.

00:56:42
Speaker 7: She's that girl, right, And her and Mariah were the foundation that Betty and Veronica if you will be early seasons, we literally the show was built on the backs of that friendship and then it kind of like expanded more.

00:56:54
Speaker 6: Right.

00:56:54
Speaker 7: So Quatter is a day one who they tried to yank by the ankles and pull out because they was hating on her for having too much shine, and she came back swinging with a whole new nigga.

00:57:02
Speaker 4: Right.

00:57:02
Speaker 7: So I just think Quad deserves everything on this franchise. I love that the thing is changing from you have to be a doctor in order to be No. Toy, by the way, is who I think actually was trying to be. I think how Toya shows up and she stirs the pot and she has these moments. I think some people think that stirring the pot is an easy thing. Not everybody's meant to be a bone collector. I think Toya the way that she keeps the show moving is clearly for the show, and also we believe it's her personality. We actually believe that this is her and she's willing to be messy, and she's brave. Is she's self indulgent. We're getting to that later when we talk about her marriage. But it's all great television. I don't ever say e yuck to Toya. I might WinCE a little bit like oh you heard to say that, like that's this, But she's great television and I think her and Quad make all the sense in the world.

00:57:51
Speaker 6: More of this, give me fourteen more.

00:57:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a fantastic show.

00:57:56
Speaker 1: So last thing is, as we're talking about marrithon Medicine, I did it to be with Toya and doctor Eugene where they did.

00:58:03
Speaker 2: Speak on their marriage.

00:58:07
Speaker 1: This season, there was this epics scene where Toya and Eugene got to this big argument at their house. They were having a pretty much a poor party and shit hit the fan. In my conversation with Toya and Eugene, a lot of people do feel like Toya is not attracted to Eugene. A lot of people feel that Toya doesn't deserve Eugene, that she's mean to him, that you know, this man works for the Bone to provide a lifestyle for her, and how he did buck up on her. They appreciated that, and Toya said it was a double standard because if because God forbid, we're we're promoting a man bucking up on any woman, it's not okay.

00:58:59
Speaker 2: But one thing Foya did say is she has a knowledge.

00:59:03
Speaker 1: The fact that she is somebody who speaks to her man crazy because she didn't have a voice growing up, and that's just who she shows up in her dulhood. Starting with Dustin Ross, who left the comment on my page Sunday afternoon, I would love to hear your thoughts on do you think when it comes to Toya and Eugene that.

00:59:25
Speaker 2: Toya made a lot of points or do you think she still doesn't get it?

00:59:30
Speaker 4: Toya, please, okay, just like I said.

00:59:35
Speaker 5: In your comment section number one, the fact that she answered that question that you asked her, you laid it out and you said, I'm telling you this with kindness, okay, And it was sincere you said. This is the takeaway that people have from the show and for her response, her rebuttal.

00:59:53
Speaker 4: To be for her take to even be.

00:59:56
Speaker 5: You know what I wish if I'm tripping, then what you can't do is meet me tripping, because then it ain't gonna work out.

01:00:05
Speaker 4: And it's a double standard because how can they be happy about him meeting me tripping because I was tripping. Shut the fuck up. Everything you saying is ridiculous right now. I love Toya on that show. I think Toya is a part of the driving force, the bloodline.

01:00:22
Speaker 5: The heartbeat, the pulsel mary to medicine. But what we're not gonna do is act like what she did was okay, like what she did like everybody else is out here crazy based on what she did. No, you were completely out of line, Toya talking to Eugene like you like you don't respect him on national television repeatedly.

01:00:44
Speaker 4: This last time.

01:00:45
Speaker 5: It was so bad because not only did she disrespect him, she disrespected the rest of the cast to call them all kinds of bitches and holes and shit and who knows what else we didn't even see on camera. Toya was tripping, and to me, the reason i'll i'll responded because you know, I'll be trying to comment on shit, but I couldn't help it. Once I saw that, I was like, please, because like, you're obviously blowing smoke up our ass.

01:01:12
Speaker 4: Toya is a smart woman. She's a college graduate and.

01:01:15
Speaker 5: She's from fucking Detroit, so I know, you get the way, you get the minutia of all of this, you know what's going on. Toya knows that she was talking out the side of her neck to Eugene. She knows she was wrong, and instead of just saying, hey, I got upset, I love my man. We're gonna be all right, and I'm gonna work on talking to him in a way that honors him and shows the respect and the reverence I do have for my husband.

01:01:42
Speaker 4: If she would have said that, totally different takeaway. But what did she do on.

01:01:46
Speaker 5: See So I feel it's a double standard. She started doing all of that shit, you know what I'm saying, and nobody she's full of it. Toya's full of shit and she love her on the show. Don't think she's a bad human being, but her take on that was full of shit, and she knows it.

01:02:11
Speaker 3: I think when you do a reality show with someone that you love, when you say you love you are responsible to protect them because you being the star on that show and your husband is a supporting character, with you right to demean them, to be out of pocket, like you got to be extra on your p's and keys. Because it may not be as bad as it looks to us in real life, I guess, so we see it as real bad time. Ten. Now you have everybody speaking on your relationship, and even when you patch it up with them and say sorry privately, you know we still look at it like you emasculate your man and Toya, I think you you know obviously you're a great at reality, but at this point you should know that you should know better that you can't really do that to your guy because it leaves a door open. You know how many thirsty girls want to probably get up in his DMS and be like you deserve to be treated better. You shouldn't let her treat you like that. And after a while, you know he can only at first and be like I stopped. But after a while it might be one of them days where you go too far. He might check those dms. Hopefully he never does, but I'm just saying I just don't want you to go down that slippery So because I hate seeing people break up, I really do. And he seems like he's a good guy and a lot of patients as well.

01:03:22
Speaker 7: So Blue meaning, well, you guys might remember me and Claudia did some role play as Toya and Eugene, so I feel like we have extra remember that.

01:03:34
Speaker 6: Yeah again, I was just no because I feel like it should be Eugene leaving.

01:03:42
Speaker 7: I'm like, I'm leaving you bitch, Like I don't feel like I'm I'm on the mindset for them to stay together. If we play again, I would say this, I'm the first person to speak out against internalized massogyny and the patriarchy.

01:03:54
Speaker 6: I'm one of them girls, right la, Toya, I.

01:03:56
Speaker 7: Agree with us this and bullshit respecting your partner's gender and you can't do the whole gender thing on something as basic as respecting your partner in public?

01:04:05
Speaker 6: Like are you serious? The bars in hell? Toya, Like, can we stop? I love that you tried to do the whole Yes, I'm gonna get the who runs the world?

01:04:11
Speaker 3: Girls know?

01:04:12
Speaker 6: Toya?

01:04:12
Speaker 7: What happened was you were caught with your slip showing you act like a hot mess. You disrespected everybody within a five mile radius.

01:04:20
Speaker 6: And then you said be better than me, Eugene, Well, why can't you be somebody that you're proud of? Like, why does he have to be better than you? There's something that's actually ironically.

01:04:29
Speaker 7: The double standard, and I think Toya probably needs to recognize that her desire to be heard sometimes overshadows her desire to keep people that she loves safe. And to Claudia's point, right now, Eugene is still letting you take the big piece of chicken. But if the right bitch on the wrong day slips to his DMS and said, I'll make you a sandwich, I'll never yell at you in public. You don't even want to give somebody that opportunity. I don't think she fully recognizes it how dangerous her behavior is to her marriage.

01:05:03
Speaker 6: She's so used to him always bouncing back.

01:05:06
Speaker 4: At some point his niece are going to give out and I'm sorry, go Ahea his sister.

01:05:11
Speaker 3: One line, it's one thing doing it in private, which is not good, but it's ten times worse when you do it on TV, because that means, yeah, I'm doing it and I'm standing around it, and I don't give a damn who sees it because you know the cameras on you. You know we're going to talk about it. So it's like ten times more humiliating.

01:05:27
Speaker 4: I think the thing about it is, Eugene, don't give a fuck. Okay. I think that this is all of our take on the outside looking in.

01:05:35
Speaker 5: We all think that Toyo was talking to him crazy, and you know that that might amount to something. But in that interview when he came and joined Toya's interview with Carlos recently, he was defensive of her.

01:05:49
Speaker 4: He was making he was excusing her behavior.

01:05:52
Speaker 5: He was joining on to what the points that she was making in the ways that the things that she was trying to attribute her behavior to.

01:06:00
Speaker 4: He was supporting her, and all that his eyebrows were up, he was smiling with the clothes mouth.

01:06:06
Speaker 5: He was doing like that, you know what I'm saying, like literally agreeing with the things that she was saying.

01:06:12
Speaker 4: So Eugene, all right, Eugene, all right, he don't mind.

01:06:16
Speaker 5: He he was clear, clear in his support of her, clear in his messaging that we had it all wrong. They were evading and going around the clear picture that we all see his conviction to that to me, is noteworthy.

01:06:34
Speaker 4: You like it?

01:06:35
Speaker 5: I love it because I do love watching it on TV. Cuts his ass out, Toy, I don't give a fuck.

01:06:39
Speaker 4: He don't care. I don't give it. If what the young blood say, if you don't give a damn, we don't.

01:06:44
Speaker 6: I don't give.

01:06:46
Speaker 3: Women and they probably have a spicy sex like that.

01:06:48
Speaker 2: But he said that.

01:06:49
Speaker 1: So to your point, Dustine Claudable, you just said and Blue break this down for us.

01:06:55
Speaker 2: He did say, he said that Toya is the type of woman he likes. He doesn't. He likes a strong woman who talks a little crazy. He said he likes that.

01:07:09
Speaker 1: And he said he dated somebody before Toya who wasn't that she was the opposite of that, and it.

01:07:16
Speaker 2: Didn't work out. So I do think this what my takeaway from it was, I do want to say this. They are in couples therapy. They are they are going to counseling good.

01:07:30
Speaker 1: They decided to pick back up counseling based on this season. And one thing that she did say that I was like, I do get it, and I did have an aha moment she did talk about and I could say this as a producer. She said, look, the arguments we get into obviously were high, and because there's cameras around, and it's one of those things where you you do subconsciously just feel like you're about to talk to me like this on TV, and that TV camera does add something, not making excuses for it, but it was more so of the fact that she said she has to realize how to show up at the woman to her husband in real life and not be somebody on TV who was boring.

01:08:22
Speaker 2: And I thought that was very honest. So there's a lot of work to do. Blue here's the thing.

01:08:29
Speaker 6: I'm not trying to be a pessimist.

01:08:31
Speaker 7: It's just that a pretty significant group of my clienteles people who've been over married for over twenty years, so I deal particularly people who've been married for a couple of decades.

01:08:41
Speaker 6: And the thing that has always been like a.

01:08:43
Speaker 7: Thread for me when I'm dealing with these people is it was okay until it wasn't, because he didn't even know he wasn't okay with it until he wasn't right. And so someone can seem consistently okay with a certain behavior and then one day it seems like out of nowhere, but it wasn't out of nowhere. It was Bil holding up in the subconscious and moving its way up. And that's what makes me know you stay a couple of gup for twenty years. Like what you mean when Bobby broke up, Bobby loves you, Bobby got tired. That's why when you asked me earlier said he's I don't want him to get tired. It's not like he's going to be angry because he gives a damn. There's a point where and I'm gonna say this, I'm not gonna share too much of my business. I'm a spicy girl. I'll do things for the plot sometimes, Okay, I do things for the plot sometimes the men that I date, though they are much nicer than me. One could argue it's a Toya and Eugene situation. So this is friendly fire. My mother is the same way. The one thing she always told me is you can be spicy, you can be fun. Don't ever make him feel bad about himself. She's like, resentment is the one thing that even the kindest man who likes a spicy woman, if he has too much time to sit with it, it will eat away at him. So I don't mind her being spicy. I don't mind them having this fun little whatever that they have going on. Just be respectful while still doing.

01:09:56
Speaker 3: All of that.

01:09:56
Speaker 7: You don't have to rob somebody of their dignity to give them the excitement that looking for. You can actually be a respectful bitch. Ask me how I know, Claudia. I'm sure you figured out how to do that too, right. At a certain age, you have to figure out how to keep it spicy. But now you know the director process, so has the hit so toy. We're just saying we want your marriage to last. Be a little nicer to him before you knock upside the head.

01:10:15
Speaker 6: That's all. Just be a little nicer little.

01:10:17
Speaker 3: I wish I was in relationships as I am outside of relationship. I think I'm very nice in relationships. Maybe I need to stop being like Toya.

01:10:27
Speaker 4: What does it mean to be like Toya? How is?

01:10:30
Speaker 3: What?

01:10:30
Speaker 4: Would they shut the fuck up?

01:10:32
Speaker 3: Sown like say stuff like that. I'm gonna start saying stuff like when they asked me, maybe what do you wanna for your birthday?

01:10:40
Speaker 4: Bitch?

01:10:40
Speaker 3: You don't know By now, I'm gonna start saying the same. Be married in six months? Because all this, Oh I made Linguidian passive for you. Oh, I brought you with diamond chain? Oh do you want to go to Aruba? Clearly I need to stop being I know what. I take everything back, Toya, you do the right. Fuck what I'm saying. You don't one married on me? I almost not saying the funk when I just date this weekend? The fuck.

01:11:09
Speaker 1: I married for eighteen years, dated for two in order to score a date. When when when Eugene asked Toya out for a date, she said, I gotta do my turn paper.

01:11:21
Speaker 2: He did the term paper for her.

01:11:23
Speaker 6: Damn, it's a kid golf clap.

01:11:26
Speaker 2: And secondly, that's why I love you so Gene.

01:11:29
Speaker 1: Secondly, he gave her the keys to his apartment because her her place got robbed, and he said, you will never have to worry about that again.

01:11:39
Speaker 2: Here's the key to my place. You could you could be.

01:11:43
Speaker 5: Probably she probably scared the robbers off. Toy probably had the motherfucker's running.

01:11:51
Speaker 3: I had an epiphany. I take back all that soft shot I said earlier.

01:11:57
Speaker 6: No, Claudia, no, don't get to the dark.

01:12:00
Speaker 3: I said, I'm in my villain era of twenty twenty six, and I've been sticking with it.

01:12:05
Speaker 4: I've done.

01:12:06
Speaker 3: I've done the same thing since I got of dating.

01:12:09
Speaker 7: And Claudia, I saw you with your man and he was strong and tall and sexy, and you were so you were actually spicy, but you were a lady about it. It was very very respectful to Claudia. That's why I'm like, go far for this, yow. I've seen her a man. She was very respectable, she was very lovely. I was even taking notes.

01:12:30
Speaker 2: And Claudia, Toya. I believe it was born the same day as you, Claudia, but she is an aries anything, April.

01:12:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, aries, women are aries. People are a lot. I will say that aries matter the devil though.

01:12:46
Speaker 2: My wife breaks my heart at that leave my I love her evil at.

01:12:53
Speaker 3: Him.

01:12:54
Speaker 1: Right, We don't mean to we you know a lot of women, I mean a lot of a lot of like a little spice, you know.

01:13:03
Speaker 5: Yeah, nobody want to boring ass motherfucker going along to get it along.

01:13:08
Speaker 4: You definitely want to have some energy, you know what I'm saying.

01:13:11
Speaker 5: But that don't mean I want to be told, motherfucker, get my water, you know what I'm saying.

01:13:20
Speaker 3: That in the middle somewhere, maybe let's okay, let's throw out some good ways to talk to people. Some spicy but not mean, not evil, like like what, okay, where are you from?

01:13:36
Speaker 2: What are your goals and aspirations in life?

01:13:38
Speaker 3: Someone asked me that? Or you asked me that, no meaning on a day, nigga, you see me on TV already? What you mean aspirations? I'm fifty two, I'm in the fucking fourth quarter. Don't act like you don't watch them on the Price.

01:13:52
Speaker 6: It's not the fourth quarter. Don't do that to yourself.

01:13:54
Speaker 4: Free, no.

01:13:57
Speaker 3: Aspirations.

01:13:58
Speaker 2: What am I a rapper? Don't act like you to watch.

01:14:04
Speaker 3: I got at this point, everyone that's seen The Price is right dealing oldeal or Atlanta housewives. Don't act like you don't know who I am?

01:14:12
Speaker 4: Or next fifteen.

01:14:15
Speaker 5: Monday Night Live, Monday Night Live, accidently informed, wicked, awesome, so.

01:14:25
Speaker 4: Many things, so many things, and that's my thing, Like I didn't know who.

01:14:28
Speaker 3: The world I'm actually shut the fuck up?

01:14:32
Speaker 4: Okay?

01:14:32
Speaker 3: Could I do that to day? Is that bad?

01:14:36
Speaker 4: Little?

01:14:36
Speaker 2: Stop to though a little?

01:14:37
Speaker 3: Maybe, don't be a trucker, just maybe i'd be like Okay, ask the question again again, again, ask the.

01:14:44
Speaker 1: Same question different, So, Claudia, what's your goals and aspirations in life.

01:14:53
Speaker 3: That's cute. Oh they like that.

01:14:58
Speaker 6: That'll make a little king jump. They like everybody like that.

01:15:02
Speaker 2: This is this is wild.

01:15:03
Speaker 1: Well listen, Ray drops cash my interview with toy Eugene. It's on my YouTube channel. I'm not dropping an interview tomorrow. I want you guys to continue watching toy ye Eugene.

01:15:16
Speaker 3: You got some billins coming up. I heard.

01:15:19
Speaker 2: I do stay tuned.

01:15:23
Speaker 3: As a former journalist. Hey, Carlos.

01:15:26
Speaker 2: By the way, Claudia, I know two of your of your your.

01:15:30
Speaker 4: Folks, I know, good jobs, fucking bag.

01:15:35
Speaker 2: It's been good. Thank you, and I love you. Brother.

01:15:37
Speaker 6: I did another button button just now people know it fluctuates. How much did we get on the show?

01:15:46
Speaker 3: Is that zipp I love a zip down shirt.

01:15:48
Speaker 6: It's easy access.

01:15:49
Speaker 3: He going. So you could just be like what you're doing after the show, Carlos.

01:15:54
Speaker 6: Sometimes you know, I.

01:15:56
Speaker 2: Have a lot of work to do.

01:15:57
Speaker 4: I bet you work hard, work, work.

01:16:03
Speaker 2: So I'm good.

01:16:06
Speaker 6: Okay, you know what the supper was longer than you, sir. Please don't don't say twelve twelve minutes. It's just seventeen.

01:16:16
Speaker 3: What's as long as y'all done it?

01:16:18
Speaker 4: Oh, there was a weekend right where you take breaks, you know, and you get back to it.

01:16:27
Speaker 3: How many orgasms in one night?

01:16:30
Speaker 6: You said?

01:16:30
Speaker 3: What? How many orgasms? What's your record? Minus? Seven?

01:16:37
Speaker 1: Oh?

01:16:38
Speaker 6: Even were you on medication? What do you mean seven? I just got as a woman. Yeah, oh man, it's different. Y'all can do that, but it's different for us seven.

01:16:49
Speaker 3: I don't do it a lot, but when I do do it, I make up for lost time.

01:16:52
Speaker 6: Electoralized. I hope you like re uped afterwards. That sounds exhausting.

01:16:55
Speaker 3: Okay, oh yeah, Niggason broke their teeth and everything.

01:16:58
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll talk about another day. I see the women.

01:17:08
Speaker 4: We just we just we're just up here.

01:17:11
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I'm talking about how big Justin's Dustin's dickens and right, it was heavy, It was heavy.

01:17:19
Speaker 6: We talked about the can, the.

01:17:20
Speaker 3: Lights on can. Let's not.

01:17:27
Speaker 4: Look what we're speaking of. Basketball wives, Carlos, what say?

01:17:33
Speaker 3: Okay, Robin Dixon's not taking accountability.

01:17:38
Speaker 4: Look, and I mean.

01:17:42
Speaker 2: Kawana said ball. Baldy Baddie.

01:17:46
Speaker 4: I like that.

01:17:47
Speaker 3: So we're gonna do that after dark thing.

01:17:49
Speaker 1: Yes, check your emails this week, Baldy Baddy, thank you. We got Centurion as a whiteness always.

01:18:02
Speaker 5: Shows up, especially with Chris Bassett. That's what we ain't talking about, Chris Basket. Let's get into it before we get up out of here. We're gonna address that. First of all, Chris bass comfortable. He's too comfortable.

01:18:20
Speaker 4: It was no reef.

01:18:21
Speaker 5: For those who don't know, he tweeted, Oh my god, my sixteen month old son or however old their their their son? Is that him and Candice just had He said that his son just said the N word, clear as day, Chris. Chris did that. I believe it was the same day that Obama ship the White House released that horrible racist meme of the Obamas. Chris Bassett did that, tweeted that. Of course, people responded to it and they took issue with what he said. Chris Bassett's problem is that he's too comfortable. He is all way speaking on things relative to Candace and her business and entertainment, her experience on these shows. He speaks as if he was on cast it on the show. I've seen him tweet several times like, well, I just know about reunion. I know how reunions go, and so what they gonna do is this this? Like he just is always so eager and excited to have an opinion on the housewives. I was tired of seeing him filming that dingy ass white T shirt, sitting on the motherfucking couch all the time. Pick up a spoon and get in there with a pot in that kitchen and cook something. Since you're a chef and you have all these great talents as a chef, that's a great thing to celebrate. When we met him on the show, he was working in restaurants and doing his thing managing restaurants. That's a great career. I know a lot of people that have done that for a long time. That's a good thing to do. Show that, But that's sitting up in a baggy neck undershirt with apple juice stains on it, on the couch in Candace motherfucking house.

01:19:57
Speaker 4: And having an opinion on all of this shit to look bad.

01:20:00
Speaker 5: And what's happened is he's gotten too goddamn comfortable to the point where he thought it was a good idea. Since he's so excited to tweet and excited to have something to say, why did you need to share that with your audience.

01:20:14
Speaker 4: In February, Black.

01:20:16
Speaker 6: History People's Awareness Month, yes, I don't.

01:20:19
Speaker 4: Even think he was being malicious. I don't. I just think he was being extremely tone.

01:20:25
Speaker 5: Deaf, and I think that it is a direct result of him being too motherfucking comfortable tweeting on that couch about what Candace got going on. We're not your friends, we don't know you, we're not in a group chat. We don't need to know about your personal things that's going on in the house, and your white ass don't need to be tweeting about somebody quote saying the end word.

01:20:46
Speaker 4: You don't need to be doing that, even if it's your child. You don't. I'm sure Candas is a brilliant woman, a brilliant mind.

01:20:54
Speaker 5: And I would bet the farm on the fact that she had a very direct conversation with him about that. I don't think it'll ever make it to the timeline, nor should it, because it ain't our business. We shouldn't have even seen the damn tweety said. But I do believe that Candas is going to address it, and that's it. I'm tired of them baggy neck undershirts get up picking up a spoon and a bachelor and get in there and flip a patty.

01:21:18
Speaker 4: That's what you need to be doing. Thank you.

01:21:22
Speaker 3: I hate that this he did this, especially when she's kind of getting a rebirth, if you will, Like people are like really checking for her on the Traders and the tide is turning on her. People that didn't like her are calming around. They're realizing how big of a star she is in that show. They're loving her on that show, and it's like, it's like, damn, I'm doing good. We're getting kind of back into a better light. And then you do this, and I feel like that's something that could have been said for his group chat with his friends and not for us, because it's going to reflect on her and Chris. You know, I like them. I like Cannas a lot, and I hated that it kind of took away from with the good stuff she's doing because now it's like, now she had a dress and talk to us about this.

01:22:04
Speaker 6: Now, right, And the timing was so self like. The timing was so selfish.

01:22:07
Speaker 7: He just finished defending her with what happened with Rob, so the timing could not have been worse. I will say this as somebody who has a lot of white friends. A true ally is someone who doesn't center themselves because an ally means you were sending to the left or the right of me.

01:22:21
Speaker 6: You're never centered, right. And we always talk.

01:22:23
Speaker 7: About people invited to the barbecue. I hate us inviting anybody to the barbecue. The kind of white people who are safe enough to be at the barbecue don't actually want to be there. They might come and get a plate and go home. They don't want to center themselves in our spaces. And I think what Dustin was outlining is Chris has gotten so familiar, forget comfortable. He's got so familiar he's used to now being able to censer himself in spaces where he doesn't belong, where he's only a guest who's supposed to be supportive. And I hate that for Canvas, because she's going to be the one who ultimately ends up paying for it.

01:22:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, he should know better, right, Chris, don't do that again. A baby a sixteen months is crazy?

01:23:02
Speaker 2: I love being some Dustin rawss. Okay. That concludes Live, I love you, rain Jows, will see y'all on the next one.

01:23:16
Speaker 4: Bye, y'all, Good.

01:23:20
Speaker 6: Face.

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