161. Paige's exit; Marriage and phone etiquette; Next Gen NYC; Jax is just plain dangerous

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Why are you giving these
attractive women your number and

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one or two people? You think you
gave your number to a couple?

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Why are you giving, as a married
man, your number out to multiple

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women? It isn't like she was the
director of management of the

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Bellagio Hotel and he was
booking a DJ gig, right? Nobody

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should be that friendly when
they're married. Nobody is

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screwing you. You're screwing
yourself. You're disrespecting

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your wife.

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Welcome to cocktails and gossip,
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I'm B and I'm Amanda. Let's get
into this week's tea. Well,

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drop.

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What's up? Cocktail ers, I
apologize in advance for my

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voice. My allergies are and I'm
doubling up. I'm taking allergy

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medication in the morning and
allergy medication at night. But

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I just saw online, the Canadian
wildfires are apparently

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affecting the air quality in New
York, because this is like

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crazy. I I'm like, I'm losing my
voice as I'm talking and having

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to constantly drink water, so
I'm sorry.

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Well, we just hope you're
feeling better. And I struggle

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with allergies too, and it's
like, I don't know, it's been an

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extra long season. And we have
this one tree in our front yard

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that drops and, like on our
front area, that drops stuff,

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different stuff, all year long.
And I think I'm allergic to all

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you're allergic to everything it
drops pretty much. Okay. So we

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should start with summer house,
because the reunion was on last

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night, but also some big news
was also

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dropped today. So today, Paige
officially announced her

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departure, and this week has
just been filled with Will she?

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Won't she? Different Intel?
Amanda and I, prior to anybody

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saying she wasn't returning, had
a long chat a couple pods ago,

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our listeners know that we
really felt there was no way

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she'd be returning full time.
Yeah, and the reason for that,

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she doesn't need the check, I
have to say, I never saw a page

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as somebody who loved it. It was
more a vehicle to get her where

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she wanted to be. And it appears
to me she's quite possibly she's

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got further to go, because
everything she touches is gold,

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but just, quite frankly, it
didn't make sense for her to

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come back for that check. I did
think we'd get appearances, and

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I do believe, and I'm going to
walk you guys through all of the

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different intel we had Amanda,
and I will, because I do believe

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there were contract
negotiations, trying to get

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appearances. I was told that she
was asking for a lot of money,

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rightfully so. So whether or not
we'll see her on summer house,

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really, in my opinion, comes
down to what the budget is, and

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if they were able to make it
work. I would like to point out

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that a source reached out to me
as soon as Paige announced and

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said, B notice she's thanking
the NBCU family and not

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specifically. Bravo. This is a
perfect example of one door

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closing another one opening.
There's a bigger deal coming

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down the pipeline. Does that
look like a regular feature on

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the Today Show, her own show, in
addition to maybe a summer house

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spin off,

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she started in the post too. She
said, you'll see me again, and

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that doesn't surprise us. Yeah,

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so I think we should walk
everybody through the different

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intel we got this week, because
sometimes it's funny to see how

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we landed here. Yes. Okay, so at
the beginning of the week, we

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got this email subject, casting.
Casting is looking at bringing

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Oh, and the email is from summer
house at Bravo, so we this is

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how we know what the email is
about. Casting is looking at

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bringing in two new guys and two
new girls, all single. They want

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Jesse, Lexi West and Sierra to
be around single people, so the

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drama of possible hookups
happens. Sadly, Lindsay Carl and

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Paige won't be full time, but
will definitely make appearances

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and might be shown in solo
scenes in the city a little

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which will be like more test
scenes for a spin off. Gabby and

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emerald are done, and Danielle
will not be visiting any longer.

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Thank God for that shell. Mean,
she's just mean. I'm bitter her.

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I agree, bitter. So yesterday we
got more intel and other gossip.

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Sources are were saying
different things regarding the

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summer house cast. I was told it
this was yesterday. It isn't

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decided yet. Kyle and Amanda
weren't mentioned in that email.

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Well, my source said they're
full time. As of yesterday, I

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was told Paige is still
negotiating the want is for full

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time, but they're giving her
flexibility to not go to The

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Hamptons and film with Lindsay
in the city, full departure with

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only guest appearances are the
backup plan. And again, the

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person at the same thought that
she just doesn't want her love

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life, life in general, played
out on camera, because the

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payoff isn't worth it for her to
expose that much. So she

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announced a full departure. I do
think that the last thing

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anybody would do is alienate the
network that made them famous.

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So we will absolutely see her a
separate source did say that she

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was asking for a lot of money.
That's where these negotiations

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came into play. This was as of
yesterday, and obviously it was

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ironed out yesterday. And the
announcement she made today, she

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didn't mention an appearance.
But if she's making a deal with

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NBCU, an overarching deal, I
don't see a world where they

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don't work in something this
summer. You know what I mean.

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And why would she mention that?
Because even if she pops up at a

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lunch in the city. She's not
going to mention that in her

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goodbye post, no,

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she just said, you'll see us.
You'll see me again. And we

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know, you know, there's been
talk about the spit off in the

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city show, and you know, I, I
gotta give it to her, because

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she did it, right? She built
something else amazing while on

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the show, in a situation where
she has creative control, she

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and Hannah do for giggly squad
and all of those properties,

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including the tour, all of that,
she has also built a sizable

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Amazon live selling business as
well as lots of brand deals and

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influencing. I I really do
think, you know, not everybody

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can do this. I think she is very
she is a star, right, as we have

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discussed, she's doing it right,
and she's leaving when the show

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still wants her, she's, I'm
sure, leaving on very good

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terms, and she's leaving and she
doesn't when she doesn't need

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the show. And I think everybody
should follow this as textbook

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on how you do it, because I
think of a lot about the other

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housewives who have dabbled in
other things, right? Like Teresa

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judais comes to mind, and

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right, there was a point where
she could have done more she and

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she didn't, but not everybody is
offered that opportunity

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or herself. Paige made it right
herself, and that's what I think

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is so cool about her, because,
but not everybody

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has the likability factor. Like
as an example, Amanda gets brand

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deals. Sierra gets brand deals.
People like them on the show.

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They're not in a position to
give up the check, no, and

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that's and the exposure that
comes. They don't have a podcast

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that a million people listen to,
as Paige and Hannah do, and

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that's where I think, as well,
that hand or that Paige in her

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next step, whatever she does
next, she's probably looking for

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more creative control as well,
yeah, and to not be a part of an

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ensemble cast where there is
less control of her image and

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the way that she is portrayed
honestly. So

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she's a huge brand. She's a
name. I think one name only,

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Paige. I

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think it makes so much sense for
her. And I'm I obviously we're

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gonna miss her, but I think I
think this is a really smart

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call on her part.

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I do want I agree
wholeheartedly. I know we'll

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still see her. I know we can
listen to her on her podcast.

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She has her YouTube show with
Hannah, so I will miss her on

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summer house. I think it's
absolutely the right move. I

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wonder what the success of the
show without her looks like. And

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speaking of those who are
continuing on the show we saw at

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the reunion, the second part,
Amanda and Kyle opened up about

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the struggles in their marriage,
Amanda said that the combination

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of Kyle's work and party habits
led her to have one foot out the

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door. Quoted, I'm quoting
directly, right, Kyle was asked,

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Are you ready to have kids? And
he countered with, is Amanda

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ready to have kids? And we saw
this in the clip, but I found it

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pretty shocking that she said,
Yeah, with someone who actually

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wants to have kids with me. So
clearly, Kyle was trying to

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gloss it over, like, yeah, I've
made changes. Things are not

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great, and him trying to spin it
that he's made some changes, but

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we know about his current work
and party schedule, and no

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changes have been made. And
Amanda looked very unsatisfied

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with his answers. Yeah,

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I mean, she said it's hard to be
a family when he's working as

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much, and then he's gone on the
weekends on these DJ gets gigs.

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I believe she used the word the
term midlife crisis about him. I

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mean,

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do have some exclusive intel
that and Amanda and I both

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Amanda, my Amanda, have really
hesitated to share. This in the

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past, ultimately, because they
discussed the issues in their

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marriage at the reunion, and we
saw the clips before it aired. I

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did share to cocktail party the
most recent Intel and receipts

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that we got. And if you are not
a subscriber, we are now going

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Okay? So, as be said, we don't
always, you know sometimes when

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we're posting stuff like it's
not our favorite to post this,

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but in this case, there were
receipts. So Kyle was in Vegas

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for a bachelor party and also a
DJ gig, a cocktailer who we know

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because she's often we chat with
her, she sent pictures and

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videos of them hanging out and
said he took her number. He had

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no ring on but they did not hook
up. It was super friendly. The

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second part of the summer house
reunion had not been shown yet,

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but as we just mentioned, Things
are tense in their marriage. So

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we shared this one, prophesying
that although it was flirty, it

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was not a hookup or anything
like

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that. Many times I've received
DMS. We've received emails with

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similar Intel, and we have
decided not to post it. There is

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a guilt that comes in with us
posting this stuff, but the

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reality is these he is a public
figure. All reality stars are,

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and you are in Vegas at very
public pool parties. So if we

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don't post it, somebody else is
going to the same way.

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Scandoval, we posted the intel
we had about the affair with

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Raquel, and then it was
confirmed. It gets to a point

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where I kind of take the
temperature along with Amanda,

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and we really do come to
agreement, yeah, on it. And

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sometimes I'll be ready to post,
and she'll be like, I don't

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know, let's hold off. And vice
versa. And we kind of came to an

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agreement this time, like, Okay,
it's time, because Jesse teased

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the big announcement, and I
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based on the fact that he wasn't
wearing his ring at the pool,

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and he was so blatant that maybe
we were getting a separation

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announcement. Honestly, that is
why I felt comfortable posting

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it. Ultimately, they did not
announce a separation, but we do

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have a confirmation from our
source that they'll be full time

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next season. All of this is in
the air. Amanda has said that

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Kyle's partying puts their
marriage at risk, so I don't

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know what we're looking at this
summer.

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Yeah, well, I do want to say
too, just reflecting on all of

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this, I think it's one thing.
Like you and I have talked

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about, like going out on a girls
night and like having a good

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time is one thing going. Out
repeatedly until you know they

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say, nothing good happens after
2am or midnight, depending,

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yeah, midnight, but whichever.
But you know, when you're

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repeatedly putting yourself
purposely in these situations,

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and you're planning your life
around being in these

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situations, right? It raises
eyebrows. It you can't I think

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every you know, I think you can
be a man. You can go to Vegas

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for a wild bachelor party. That
is a route, you know, at a pool

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party, whatever. You can still
be respectful to your wife,

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right? I think, though, if you
continue to put yourself in

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these late night everybody shit
faced situations again and again

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and again, that you really need
to look at your behavior and why

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you aren't home in bed with your
wife at 2am on correct any given

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Saturday.

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So the posts that we shared and
the receipts that we shared. Got

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back to Kyle, and he actually
texted the woman, woman who sent

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us the video, picture, etc, and
he said, this is his text to

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her, sorry. So he sent a
screenshot of our cocktail post

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and said, Sorry, but did you
send this in I don't think I

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gave my number to more than one
or two people, including you and

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I was just being friendly. Sucks
when I get screwed like this. I

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lost my wedding ring at the gym
earlier

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this week. Sorry, but that text
sounds like guilt to me.

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Listen, you're a married man,
you're in Vegas, you're at a

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pool party in bikinis, not
you're not in a bikini, but the

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women are Why are you giving
these attractive women your

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number and one or two people?
You think you gave your number

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to a couple? Why are you giving,
as a married man, your number

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out to multiple women? It isn't
like she was the director of

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management of the Bellagio Hotel
and he was booking a DJ gig,

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right? Nobody should be that
friendly when they're married.

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Nobody is screwing you. You're
screwing yourself. You're

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disrespecting your wife, and
none of that has anything to do

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with any of us that report on
it. That makes what it is.

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Let me ask you a question,
because I know what you're gonna

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say to my first question, so I'm
just gonna assume you're gonna

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say no, but I can't think. Can
you think of any situations

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where you would be out in Vegas
and you would give your number

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to a man that is just somebody
else partying? I'm gonna assume

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no, right, no.

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And if I got the same receipts
from Abe Lici and Aaron from

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Roni, I would think it was very
inappropriate and or any married

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person. So here I are a woman
giving

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here's my follow up question I
am actually, this is one that I

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am really curious, because I as
a mom of two kids, I do a lot of

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logistics planning, right?
Carpool planning, tournament,

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planning things like that. And
there are often or like even

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play dates. You know, when kids
are coming back and forth, I

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usually copy the person's if I'm
trying to figure something out

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with a dad, I usually copy their
wife on all of the text, because

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I think that is respectful thing
to do. Do you have, like, What

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is your thought on that?

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I am trying to think of a
situation where I've texted a

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father, and I can't think of
one, because in both cases, it's

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either a team message where,
like everybody, whatever parent

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is on the team, that's the
contact is on there, but it's

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public for the whole team, yeah,
or I'm dealing with

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the mom, yeah. And for fun,

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I agree with what you're saying.
I had a text Jimmy's dad, John,

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I would tag his wife, Colleen on
that, like I

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write CC, you just put her on
the text, which is what? Because

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I think in my older son's
situation, the some of the like

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this, there's just a lot of
planning and coordination with

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some of the travel team stuff,
but then all and like that. So

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there's a couple of the dads
that kind of lead it, and so I,

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I and like, I just, I can't
think of a situation where I

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wouldn't also put the life on
the text, even though I know

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she's not going to be
responding, that I'm, you know,

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really reaching out to the dad
to follow up on something, or to

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firm up carpool or whatever. So
it's just, it's that, to me, is

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extremely disrespectful to give
somebody your number and like,

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there's in a quote, unquote
friendly way. I just don't, I

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don't know. I don't believe in
that. I don't think that. I

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don't think that's a thing in a
respectful marriage. Maybe I'm,

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like, really traditional. I
don't know. I don't think

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it is either, and I'm interested
to see I haven't received any

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DMS or any comments on the
cocktail posts that say he's

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just being friendly. I think
people generally agree with us,

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and I do think that Kyle is a
friendly, outgoing guy, but you

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don't have to give anyone your
number. You can be friendly and

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outgoing. I

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have met people. So I have met
people in business situations

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and but then I give them my work
email. I don't give her my phone

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number, same, yeah, it's just, I
don't know. It's whatever. This

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is not like a virtue signaling
situation. This is just somebody

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who's got a lot of experience
being married, and I just this

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is what I, you know, I
personally find to be

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appropriate or inappropriate.
Okay, so let's talk about what's

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going to happen with the rest of
the cast, because I know I am

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really hoping we get this show
that we have been asking for,

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which is this filming in the
city with some of our favorite

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cast members, including Lindsey,
which, you know, I have said

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many times, I'm not like a huge
Lindsey fan, but I really like

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watching her, because I
honestly, I'm really losing

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interest in watching people my
age and this Kyle, I'm looking

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squarely at you party, just
every weekend. And I like this

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idea of maybe summer house,
going younger, more single, less

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couple house, and then possibly
following some of the characters

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that we love, the cast we love
in the city. And

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I totally think that will happen
regarding this summer and what

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summer house will look like. It
makes sense. We're gonna see

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Lindsay out there. I think we'll
also see her in the city.

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Unfortunately, we know that she
is not being considered for

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Roni, despite her friendships
with some of the cast, including

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Erin and Jessel. I don't agree
with that decision. I know a lot

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of you guys don't agree, but
that is what it is. Yeah, they

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should put her on Roni, but
they're not if there's a spin

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off coming, which I do believe
that there is, that has been the

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plan. But as we said, that plan
has not been for the immediate I

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can tell you, it is not on the
production schedule for the

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calendar year 2025 My hope is
for calendar year 2026 they

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start moving with that again.
Let's call it January, right.

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Get cameras up ahead of the
summer so that before the next

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season, 11 of summer house,
maybe we get to see the spin

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off. Also,

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just from a production
standpoint, guys like, listen to

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us, this makes sense, because
you've got a team in place to be

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in the Hamptons on the weekends.
Get that same team, that entire

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same team you can have working
during the week on this other

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show. So we're talking
efficiencies Exactly.

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Let's get efficient. And I
actually wrote because Amanda

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and I write notes, and I
actually wrote in my notes. We

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know beyond this season 10, we
knew maybe we would see Paige do

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some limited filming to close it
out, but I strongly felt she

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wouldn't be full time, if back
at all. So by season 11, who's

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coming back like I can see Kyle
and Amanda wrapping it up after

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this 10th summer, we still want
Lindsay. So yeah, as far as

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getting rid of Gabby, I really
like her. I can see them wanting

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to free that salary up for
somebody that might bring more

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drama. Emerald never got a fair
shot, but he's out. You know,

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there's some, there's some
people who are saying that Lexi

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is out. I believe she's in. I
just That's my gut, and my

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source told agreed with that.
Let's see, yeah,

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I mean, I read comments. There's
a lot of, I think, hand energy

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behind Lexi as well, and there's
some against her as well. But

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we're all noticing all of the
posts from Lindsay posting with

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Aaron. It's got our attention,
whether it means anything,

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probably not. But on the topic
of Lindsay, at the reunion last

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night, we learned that she and
her boyfriend are no longer

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romantically together, but they
co parent very well, according

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to Lindsay, so

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not only did we have this in
cocktail party in February, we

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had the details right down to
them still brunching together.

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Listen, we had seen the
speculation about them not being

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together, but then we had a
reliable person tell us that

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they are just co parenting,
which is exactly what she said.

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We also have posts that they
were spotted after we had heard

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they weren't romantically
involved, that they were spotted

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at brunch, it made us wonder if
they had gotten back together.

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But as Lindsay pointed out,
they're co parenting Well, she

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did say that she's not in a
place to date anyone else, and

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he spends a lot of nights at her
place, not she said, not friends

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with benefits, just co
parenting. But she pointed out

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that if he were dating somebody
else, it would have to change

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their arrangement arrangement.
She wouldn't want him staying

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with her. So I do get the
feeling that they are at a

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crossroads of her not being
willing to give. Up her public

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persona for the relationship and
him not willing to be with her

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if she doesn't give it up, which
makes me sad for her, because he

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got together with her knowing
full well who she was and what

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she did for a living. Yeah,
yeah.

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I just hope they are able to co
parent well, and they're able to

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continue that, because it's not
easy to co parent and and they

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don't

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get back together at some point,
one of them is going to date

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somebody else. They're not just
going to be celibate like

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forever. But also,

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as Gemma gets older, I think
things can change a little bit,

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because when you have an infant,
it's the, it's not like the

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infant can be doing a week on,
week off, yeah, with their, you

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know, their mother. And so I
think the fact it makes a lot of

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sense that Tanner, the dad, is
spending nights with the baby,

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so, like, I can see it being
like, okay to, you know, Tanner

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like you're here if she wakes up
in the night, tonight's your

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night. So Lindsay can actually
get some sleep, because I don't

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think the baby is probably
sleeping at Tanner's house yet.

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But as she gets older, it'll
become a little bit easier,

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because you don't have it's not
as immediate. You know,

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parenting is not as a immediate
as in, like the baby's crying, I

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need to go feed her right now.
Situation, it'll be interesting

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to see, but I hope that they can
continue to co parent. So New

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York, next gen, New York City
started this week, before we get

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into the people. I am curious to
hear what you think about

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everything. But did you after
watching that show? And I know

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you're a New Yorker, so this is
because I watched the show and

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felt like it's, it's making New
York City look amazing, like

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very much like sex, and the city
did the way, the city was a

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character of sorts, 100%

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it gave such Gossip Girl vibes.
Yeah, I agree with you. The city

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is a character in the same way
the city is a character on Roni.

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I was excited and hopeful, but I
was actually really pleasantly

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surprised with how good it was.
The cast meshed very well

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together. And you have Charlie,
Georgia and Ava, who are like

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legit New Yorkers, right? And it
felt that way. It felt

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authentic. You then have the
Bravo infusion of Brooks, who

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went to NYU, who is seemingly
really friends with Charlie,

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yeah, and Georgia and Ava as
well. Riley also went to NYU.

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Yeah, so they do all have that
common bond. We saw their

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backstories. We saw who was
rich, like Charlie and Ava and

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like celebrity, like Ava, and
then who were who wasn't like

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Georgia, who's just a hustler,
right? It was what felt like an

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authentic representation of the
New York City Gen Z social scene

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at so let's go through the
episode as we met everyone.

431
00:28:08,220 --> 00:28:13,860
Kim bierman's daughter, Ariana,
was the first person they showed

432
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:19,080
we hear that she will be the
breakout star, and I feel like

433
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,220
I'm already seeing it.

434
00:28:20,220 --> 00:28:23,000
Remember when she was little,
she was the smart one in the

435
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:28,400
family. She continues to hold
down that crown. Yeah, we saw

436
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,340
her and her boyfriend Hudson,
looking at apartments. I have to

437
00:28:31,340 --> 00:28:33,620
tell a quick story. So on the
way to one of my daughter's

438
00:28:33,620 --> 00:28:35,840
tournaments, we had a drive
through Manhattan. We're in

439
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:40,480
gridlock traffic, and there was
this small brownstone, and it

440
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,240
was on the way to the Holland
Tunnel, so it was like a major

441
00:28:43,300 --> 00:28:47,440
street, right? And my husband
was, like, just for shits and

442
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,440
giggles. Google that address. I
would love to know what that is

443
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,740
listed at, yeah. So it was a
fully attached brownstone. Think

444
00:28:53,740 --> 00:28:57,700
Sonia Morgan's, but not as tall,
so not as many floors, so

445
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:02,400
smaller than that. Some
brownstones do have a garage.

446
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,780
This did not it was $8 million
or, like, seven, seven or

447
00:29:06,780 --> 00:29:09,060
something. So when I looked at
the listing, it said it was,

448
00:29:09,060 --> 00:29:11,820
like 3000 square feet. But it
looked tiny. It was fully

449
00:29:11,820 --> 00:29:15,180
attached. My kids were like, Oh
my god. So Manhattan real estate

450
00:29:15,540 --> 00:29:19,500
is truly insane. Ariana, his
boyfriend, as we know because we

451
00:29:19,500 --> 00:29:22,760
posted about it in cocktail
Hudson. He's uber rich. His

452
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,600
family, his dad created Zach's
bees. Am I saying that right? Do

453
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,580
you have them by you? I think
they're mostly in the South.

454
00:29:28,580 --> 00:29:28,760
They're

455
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,780
in the South. I've been there
before, but yeah, they're in the

456
00:29:32,780 --> 00:29:33,080
South.

457
00:29:33,260 --> 00:29:37,160
This is a fast food chain, and
so he does very well. Ariana

458
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,780
shared that her mom stole all
the money she made over the

459
00:29:40,780 --> 00:29:44,320
years, I assume, from the show
and any brand deals or whatever,

460
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,720
she actually noted that she
moved out because of her

461
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,080
mother's lying, and I guess,
like, we can call it like

462
00:29:50,140 --> 00:29:53,020
personality disorder, really,
truly, but she did say her

463
00:29:53,020 --> 00:29:56,920
parents stole her money. So Kroy
is not an innocent in this,

464
00:29:56,980 --> 00:29:59,800
right? But yet she does carry
guilt, and she still sends a.

465
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,120
Her mom money all the time. And
Hudson expressed concerns,

466
00:30:03,180 --> 00:30:05,580
because while he understands her
guilt, and of course, he

467
00:30:05,580 --> 00:30:09,120
understands her need to want to
help the four little kids that

468
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,000
Kim and Croy have, he said to
her, how do we even know that

469
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,180
money's going to the kids? Like,
I think he's I think he's trying

470
00:30:15,180 --> 00:30:17,460
to say to her, like, yes, we
want to help the kids, but we

471
00:30:17,460 --> 00:30:20,600
have to do something where we
know that it's going to them,

472
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,720
and it's being utilized for
them. It was so disturbing,

473
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:24,560
learning this,

474
00:30:24,620 --> 00:30:29,660
it is so sad. I can't say I'm
surprised that it happened to

475
00:30:29,660 --> 00:30:34,340
her, knowing how bad the
finances had gotten with Kim and

476
00:30:34,340 --> 00:30:39,980
cry, I was honestly very
surprised, in a good way, I

477
00:30:39,980 --> 00:30:44,800
guess, to see Arianna be so
honest about it, yes, seeing her

478
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:49,240
feel so conflicted about wanting
to send the money to her mom for

479
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,800
the kids, but then also seeing
her mom drink a $200 bottle of

480
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,520
wine, that's just not a way that
I could see myself living a life

481
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,700
but and then that they lied
about where all the money went,

482
00:31:00,700 --> 00:31:03,480
like you said. She said she
moved out because of all the

483
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,680
lying. All of this feels
unfathomable to me, but it also,

484
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,860
again, just makes me wonder
about the mental health of Croy

485
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,760
and Kim and which just makes my
heart go because they have

486
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:15,300
speaking of

487
00:31:15,300 --> 00:31:19,680
Kim in real time. This morning,
I got a text from a cocktail

488
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,080
that sent me a picture that
isn't a good one. She's going to

489
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,440
try to get it back. Get a better
one when they land. They're

490
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,520
currently in flight who spotted
Kim zolziak on a flight to the

491
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:33,140
Bahamas sitting diagonally from
our cocktail or talking very

492
00:31:33,140 --> 00:31:36,080
loudly and chugging bloodies. I
hope she can get me a better

493
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,680
picture. Oh, and she's also with
a Croy look alike, and it looks

494
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,580
like it's first class. Let me
try to zoom in, but yeah, yeah,

495
00:31:42,580 --> 00:31:43,240
it's first class.

496
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,060
Hopefully he's paying for
everything. I also thought, I

497
00:31:46,060 --> 00:31:48,880
don't know if you picked up on
this, but when Ariana and

498
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,760
husband are sitting outside at
that restaurant and there's that

499
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:56,200
close up on the bottom of her
Louboutins, yeah, it's such a

500
00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:02,400
metaphor, I feel like, for where
she is in life, which is she had

501
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,120
wealth, it's been taken away,
and she's kind of clawing her

502
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,600
way back to the top. I don't
know. I thought it was cool. It

503
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,080
was cool video work, cool
editing. And I'm really rooting

504
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:17,580
for her same next they showed
Brooks. He is the creative

505
00:32:17,580 --> 00:32:21,860
director for his mother,
Meredith marks company. He

506
00:32:21,860 --> 00:32:25,100
shares that he is feels like
he's living in her shadow.

507
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,640
I have to say, I think Brooks is
a great fit the Bravo audience

508
00:32:28,700 --> 00:32:32,600
knows him. He's connected to
both the New York City kids like

509
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,380
Charlie and Georgia and Ava and
then the Bravo kids. So it

510
00:32:36,380 --> 00:32:38,120
really positions him to be the
glue.

511
00:32:38,180 --> 00:32:43,780
Yeah, I agree. I think he's, he
is also very just good looking,

512
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:48,040
I thought too, the fact that
he's not a confrontation person,

513
00:32:48,100 --> 00:32:51,460
and kind of watching him
struggle with that, I think is

514
00:32:51,460 --> 00:32:55,540
kind of interesting, because
we're so used to people on

515
00:32:55,540 --> 00:32:59,440
housewives shows going all in.
So I think that's kind of an

516
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,720
interesting angle. I have to
say, if he feels like he's in

517
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,260
his mother's shadow, don't work
for her. You know, like, Yes, I

518
00:33:07,260 --> 00:33:10,620
think one of the reasons that I
think I'm really gonna like this

519
00:33:10,620 --> 00:33:17,460
show is because I feel like this
is one of the most pivotal, if

520
00:33:17,460 --> 00:33:22,400
not the most pivotal, point in
people's lives, because I

521
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:27,200
remember feeling so scared to go
and work and build my career on

522
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,340
my own, because school and
college were very comfortable

523
00:33:31,340 --> 00:33:34,580
for me. I was good at getting
good grades. I was good at,

524
00:33:34,580 --> 00:33:38,060
like, figuring things out, but I
had, you know, building a

525
00:33:38,060 --> 00:33:41,860
career. I had no idea how to do
that. I went to school in a

526
00:33:41,860 --> 00:33:45,820
smaller town, and then I moved
to a big city that I was not

527
00:33:45,820 --> 00:33:50,560
from, and I figured it out, and
I never thought of it as brave

528
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,040
at the time, but looking back, I
really do, and so I really

529
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:58,120
identify with these kids and
where they are, because it's

530
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,980
such a it just is such a crazy
time of life where people are

531
00:34:01,980 --> 00:34:05,820
told, you know, you're an adult
now you have to figure it out.

532
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:11,220
Like Riley said, she's got a
year until her mom cuts her off.

533
00:34:11,220 --> 00:34:14,040
And I'm like, that's more than a
lot of people have, but it's I

534
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:18,600
still identify with that. So
this is, I just think I really

535
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:24,440
like this theme, and seeing this
through the Gen Z lens. And so,

536
00:34:24,500 --> 00:34:28,820
you know, we got that tea about
this being the next big Bravo

537
00:34:28,820 --> 00:34:33,200
franchise, and I can really see
that, because this is a struggle

538
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:38,240
that people in any city or town
face, ultimately. So it feels

539
00:34:38,240 --> 00:34:38,780
like

540
00:34:38,779 --> 00:34:42,699
I that is such a good point. It
the first episode. If you

541
00:34:42,699 --> 00:34:46,719
haven't, if you haven't watched
it, don't let disliking a

542
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,379
housewife or feeling like the
offspring are entitled deter

543
00:34:50,379 --> 00:34:53,979
you, because it really is good
and they're really giving it.

544
00:34:53,979 --> 00:34:57,039
They're not coming on there and
glossing over anything.

545
00:34:57,100 --> 00:35:00,120
Yeah, and like, I mean, while
some of them, some of them. Are

546
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,840
legitimately booked and busy.
You know, you look at Ava dash,

547
00:35:03,900 --> 00:35:08,160
who we see, and, you know,
she's, she's doing it. We see

548
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,340
something that, like Amira, who
will talk about, in a minute,

549
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,580
you like, she, you know, and
Georgia, who will also talk

550
00:35:14,580 --> 00:35:18,360
about, in a minute, yeah,
they're like, they're out there

551
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,560
and they're working. And again,
like something, I very much you

552
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,080
know, they're they're making
their new group of friends

553
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:28,520
outside of college. These are
all things that that I did as

554
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:35,600
why. So we also have Charlie
zacore. He is, was a rich kid

555
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,500
given the title crypto trader,
which I found hilarious. He's

556
00:35:39,500 --> 00:35:42,040
like, Yeah, my dad makes a lot
of money, and he gives me money,

557
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:46,360
and then I invest. Yeah, that's
really funny. Why?

558
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,840
Sitting at the cafe using his
credit card I invest money? Yes,

559
00:35:49,900 --> 00:35:50,680
exactly,

560
00:35:50,740 --> 00:35:55,180
but he's one that we'll be
talking about, I think, quite a

561
00:35:55,180 --> 00:35:59,800
bit, because he has been
connected to this crypto

562
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:04,380
scandal, where you don't need to
know much about crypto to know

563
00:36:04,380 --> 00:36:07,140
what happened. So there are
these two. They call them

564
00:36:07,140 --> 00:36:10,080
crypto. These two crypto bros
who live in New York, who are

565
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:15,060
big or who had moved to New
York, came big on the club

566
00:36:15,060 --> 00:36:19,860
scene, spending hundreds of
$1,000 in a night at the clubs.

567
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:24,800
They had this brownstone that
was rented that the New York

568
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:29,060
Post is now calling the
townhouse of horrors. They lured

569
00:36:29,240 --> 00:36:32,420
this and to be clear, I'm
talking about two crypto bros

570
00:36:32,420 --> 00:36:35,240
that are not Charlie. I will
tell you guys in a second how

571
00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:38,360
he's leaked. But two crypto bros
lured this Italian crypto

572
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:42,880
investor into their town hosts,
and they kidnapped him

573
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,580
essentially for weeks. Trapped
him there because they are

574
00:36:45,580 --> 00:36:50,320
trying to get his crypto
passwords. Because if you can

575
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,680
get, if you can get into
somebody's crypto, essentially

576
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,100
their wallet, you can take it,
because everything is very it's

577
00:36:57,220 --> 00:37:02,160
untraceable with crypto. So you
guys might remember the email,

578
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,880
and then it'll show you guys how
this Charlie guy is attached. So

579
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,000
it says, I'm sure you've seen
reports about this crazy case,

580
00:37:09,180 --> 00:37:13,200
two crypto bros slash assholes,
kidnapped and tortured. An

581
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:17,460
Italian crypto guy he escaped.
Turns out one of the New York

582
00:37:17,460 --> 00:37:22,820
see the next gen NYC kids,
Charlie was the guy who

583
00:37:22,820 --> 00:37:28,520
introduced the crypto bros to
some of the clubs, etc, shady.

584
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,220
And then it says there's also a
picture of him literally

585
00:37:31,220 --> 00:37:34,940
standing at the crime scene when
the one was being arrested.

586
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:44,740
So before we met Charlie, prior
to the crypto bro scandal, and

587
00:37:44,740 --> 00:37:48,100
again, he introduced them, and
maybe he lives in the building.

588
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,980
I don't believe he had anything.
There is no connection. As far

589
00:37:50,980 --> 00:37:53,800
as his involvement in torturing
this person, that is not what

590
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:58,060
we're implying. He knows the
guys. Oh, he knows the guys,

591
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:02,040
which is crazy, and we had heard
a lot about him being a rich

592
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:06,900
spoil kid. I actually thought he
was more likable and didn't come

593
00:38:06,900 --> 00:38:11,100
off as a spoil brat. Off the
bat, he's very good friends with

594
00:38:11,100 --> 00:38:14,940
Brooks. He's from New York City,
and I have to tell you guys, if

595
00:38:14,940 --> 00:38:18,600
you've watched Gossip Girl, he's
Chuck Bass here, like but

596
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,680
actually a little bit more
likable, and it's only the first

597
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,160
episode, like he doesn't seem
devious. He's 29 so he's

598
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,640
actually a little bit older than
the kids. He is a New York City

599
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,780
rich kid. It gives him access,
right? He's had this access to

600
00:38:32,780 --> 00:38:35,720
places because of his wealth
from a young age, because of the

601
00:38:35,720 --> 00:38:39,320
connections he has through his
father. I'm sure he knows all

602
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:44,500
the movers and shakers, and
based off of this, he is the guy

603
00:38:44,500 --> 00:38:47,200
around town that people want to
be friends with, right? He gets

604
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:53,620
you in, he gets you access. And,
yeah, I think he's, I think he's

605
00:38:53,620 --> 00:38:55,960
going to be a star of the show.
Yeah,

606
00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:01,200
I think he's got, he's got swag
too, or yes, the kids say,

607
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:01,680
because he's

608
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,780
not, like, really that good
looking. I thought it was funny

609
00:39:03,780 --> 00:39:06,120
when somebody's like, he's like,
Scott Disick, and then they were

610
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:10,260
like, but he looks like, Neil
Diamond, like, he's not very bad

611
00:39:10,260 --> 00:39:13,140
looking, but he's, he's not
Scott Disick cute. He's not,

612
00:39:13,140 --> 00:39:18,000
like, super cute, but he's okay.
But, yeah, he's cute enough

613
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,320
considering, yeah,

614
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:24,080
you could just tell like he's,
he's got some swag. I did a

615
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,320
little bit of digging into him,
just because I'm, I'm curious

616
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,280
this whole crypto situation, I
think is really interesting.

617
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:35,240
Also just wanted to understand
where the wealth comes from. So

618
00:39:35,240 --> 00:39:38,840
first we heard on the show that
apparently Charlie used to date

619
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,920
Lindsay Lohan when he was a
teenager, and says, quote,

620
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,280
unquote, she used to pick him up
from school. So I did Google it.

621
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:50,200
Yes, Charlie's 29 Lindsay Lohan
is now 38 so in no way would

622
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:54,280
that have been a legal
situation. But according to

623
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:58,420
everything I've read, and I've
always read about kids like this

624
00:39:58,420 --> 00:40:02,040
that grow up and you. Know, Uber
wealthy in New York City, and

625
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:06,180
kind of have the city at their
disposal from like, a young Yes,

626
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,840
my cousin actually went to a
private school in the city. She

627
00:40:09,900 --> 00:40:14,040
got not a full but a good
scholarship, and she knew a lot

628
00:40:14,100 --> 00:40:14,700
of kids like

629
00:40:14,700 --> 00:40:18,240
this, and so he's apparently
been at the club since he was

630
00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:22,820
14. So that would all make
sense. His dad is an investment

631
00:40:22,820 --> 00:40:27,440
banker who is now retired and
does his own private investing.

632
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:32,360
His mom is an art collector who
lives in Palm Beach. So his

633
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:36,320
parents are divorced. It I don't
know if they are ever married.

634
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:40,360
I'm not. I don't I don't know
they might be. I just didn't

635
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:45,400
actually dig into that part of
it, but like you said, Charlie

636
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,600
has not been charged or arrested
in connection with that scandal,

637
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,540
but we will be keeping an eye on
this. First of all, just, I

638
00:40:52,540 --> 00:40:55,240
think it's a really interesting
story, but second of all, just

639
00:40:55,240 --> 00:41:00,900
to see how things pan out with
his connection, back to the

640
00:41:00,900 --> 00:41:04,800
Chuck Bass thing I do. You
remember on Gossip Girl How we

641
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,580
bought all the PE peonies in New
York? And she thought, then

642
00:41:08,580 --> 00:41:11,160
Blair thought he was trying to
sabotage her prom, but he

643
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,580
actually bought them all for
her. Yes, I could see him kind

644
00:41:14,580 --> 00:41:23,060
of having this softy side. I
agree. But Ava, who is Damon

645
00:41:23,060 --> 00:41:27,500
dashes, daughter who co founded
Rockefeller records with Jay Z.

646
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:33,380
Her mom is Rachel Roy, the
fashion designer Rachel Roy, you

647
00:41:33,380 --> 00:41:38,180
guys might know is rumored to be
the girl in the Beyonce song

648
00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:43,240
that infers there was some sort
of affair with Jay Z and called

649
00:41:43,240 --> 00:41:47,920
her Becky with the good hair.
So, yeah, I mean, I think Ava is

650
00:41:47,980 --> 00:41:51,700
absolutely gorgeous, like we
said, booked and busy, she's

651
00:41:51,700 --> 00:41:58,240
gonna be really interesting to
watch. She dated Diana Jenkins

652
00:41:58,240 --> 00:42:02,580
son, I think. And then I also
read that she was did some time

653
00:42:02,580 --> 00:42:04,380
as Crystal minkoffs Nanny.

654
00:42:04,620 --> 00:42:08,340
Yes, I think she was actually
shown like in the background of

655
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:12,180
Real Housewives of Beverly Hills
with Crystal's kids. Yeah,

656
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:17,160
absolute, real deal. I'm a hip
hop fan. I love that her father

657
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,740
was in the episode. I hope
there's more of that. And her

658
00:42:19,740 --> 00:42:23,480
mom, we see Chloe. Brooks is
gorgeous sister. She's heavily

659
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:28,160
featured. We heard she would be
there's a lot of kids who are

660
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:33,200
not main cast members. Featured
a bunch of Charlie's friends who

661
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:37,280
seem to be fellow Trust Fund
kids on the scene. Charlie and

662
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:42,340
Chloe have a flirty vibe. They
go on a date. We see him texting

663
00:42:42,340 --> 00:42:45,940
Brooks, who was rightfully
offended, something like, oh,

664
00:42:45,940 --> 00:42:48,280
meet up with us later, unless
your sister's back at my

665
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,980
apartment. Not cool? Yeah,

666
00:42:50,980 --> 00:42:57,940
no, I think he yeah. Can see
where the drama this may have

667
00:42:57,940 --> 00:43:03,720
been a slightly manufactured or
maybe encouraged situation from

668
00:43:03,720 --> 00:43:07,860
producers, but you can also see
that Brooks is legit pissed

669
00:43:07,860 --> 00:43:14,940
about it. Yes, okay, so Georgia,
who is their friend, she's in PR

670
00:43:14,940 --> 00:43:19,440
like party planning, like a
young onesie Hubbard. She

671
00:43:19,500 --> 00:43:23,120
doesn't come from extreme
wealth. She's fourth generation

672
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:27,560
New York City. Grew up in the
Upper West Side. Says she

673
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,640
doesn't call it hustle. She
calls it anxiety, but big on,

674
00:43:31,700 --> 00:43:35,720
you know, making friends
connections definitely seems

675
00:43:35,720 --> 00:43:40,480
like she's building success on
her own. So she

676
00:43:40,780 --> 00:43:45,940
is another representation, and I
was so happy that they included

677
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:50,740
her on the cast, because she is
the New York City dream, right?

678
00:43:50,980 --> 00:43:55,780
She is the person who we see on
the sitcoms the Serena's

679
00:43:55,780 --> 00:43:58,480
boyfriend, whose name escapes me
on Gossip Girl. Him and his

680
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,840
sister live in Brooklyn, and
their parents are teachers or

681
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,660
something like that, and they
have scholarships to the fancy

682
00:44:03,660 --> 00:44:07,500
and I think Dan, they have
scholarships to the fancy

683
00:44:07,500 --> 00:44:10,620
school, right that everybody
attends. That's Georgia. She's

684
00:44:10,620 --> 00:44:14,820
the kid who didn't have the
money, but was there, gained

685
00:44:14,820 --> 00:44:20,600
accents access through her
hustle slash anxiety and hard

686
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:25,940
work, and she is earned her spot
on the scene. She saw it. It

687
00:44:25,940 --> 00:44:29,240
wasn't her world. She made it
her world. She did diplose

688
00:44:29,240 --> 00:44:33,500
party, a rave at cat Stelly, I
last laughed my ass off that

689
00:44:33,500 --> 00:44:36,500
none of the kids knew about.
Harry and Sally are young, 20

690
00:44:36,500 --> 00:44:40,180
year olds, and they're like,
Girl Like, why don't you pick up

691
00:44:40,180 --> 00:44:43,180
what everybody else is laying
down like nobody else really

692
00:44:43,180 --> 00:44:45,940
knows what this is, like we do,
but stop bringing it up. I felt

693
00:44:46,240 --> 00:44:50,080
Yeah, she was not. She's got a
very quirky personality, which I

694
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,620
like. She's very authentic,
yeah, and I love that Riley

695
00:44:53,620 --> 00:44:57,280
lived above cat's deli and
didn't realize it was like the

696
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,540
most famous deli because of that
movie. So quirky. Tricky and

697
00:45:00,540 --> 00:45:04,860
interesting, and then when we
hear like the voice from the

698
00:45:04,860 --> 00:45:08,280
bathroom about her not washing
her hands, I have to tell you, I

699
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,520
get the germ thing. I'm not a
germaphobe, but that's extreme,

700
00:45:12,060 --> 00:45:14,760
and I love that. They were all
like, oh my god, she's gonna get

701
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:15,060
pink eye.

702
00:45:15,060 --> 00:45:18,660
I have a lot of things to say
about this, because I'm the

703
00:45:18,660 --> 00:45:22,640
same. I am not a germaphobe, you
won't find me using hand

704
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,500
sanitizer compulsively.

705
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,280
No, but like, after if I pump
gas, I use it. If I'm on a

706
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,620
plane, I use it like there's a
time and a place. I'm not

707
00:45:30,620 --> 00:45:33,680
somebody who's spraying it all
day long, same exact

708
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,700
same scenarios. I agree that
some germs are good. I think

709
00:45:37,700 --> 00:45:40,840
it's a bad thing to, like, try
to completely sanitize yourself.

710
00:45:41,020 --> 00:45:46,180
But eco E coli, which literally
comes from poop, if you ingest

711
00:45:46,240 --> 00:45:51,160
it or get it in your eye, you
get, you can get viruses you

712
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:55,300
that's how you get norovirus. Is
not washing your hands. And like

713
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:59,980
I do feel a little bad for this
girl, because I feel like this

714
00:45:59,980 --> 00:46:02,400
is going to be something that
follows her for the rest of

715
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,520
life, her life, unless she's
like, Okay, I now been educated

716
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:09,240
that I do need to wash my hands.
Like I feel like it could be

717
00:46:09,240 --> 00:46:12,540
really bad for her business,
like I don't blame the other

718
00:46:12,540 --> 00:46:16,200
people for not wanting to hug
her. I That would really gross

719
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:17,640
me out. I, and I

720
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:21,980
would like to sense that she was
exaggerating. I, but, I mean,

721
00:46:21,980 --> 00:46:23,900
she didn't wash her hands. I
know

722
00:46:23,900 --> 00:46:27,080
I bath for I mean, I am not
again. I'm not one of those

723
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:32,060
people who, like, compulsively
washes my hands the second I

724
00:46:32,060 --> 00:46:35,000
walk in, like, I just not, but
the second I walk into my house,

725
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:39,740
just because I've been out in
public, I don't and like, I try

726
00:46:39,740 --> 00:46:43,060
to make, like, remind my kids,
like before, if we sit down to a

727
00:46:43,060 --> 00:46:45,460
restaurant and they're gonna be
eating with their hand, like to

728
00:46:45,460 --> 00:46:47,980
go wash their hands, you know,
if we've been out doing stuff.

729
00:46:47,980 --> 00:46:51,760
But I'm not again, not
compulsive. I do use a paper

730
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,360
towel to exit a public bathroom,
and I'm really glad that I do

731
00:46:55,540 --> 00:46:58,060
now that I know that are people
who do not believe in washing

732
00:46:58,060 --> 00:47:03,600
their hands. Yeah. Anyway, I am
fully sold on Ariana. I think

733
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:07,680
GIA can go and this is not
because I'm not a big Teresa

734
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:11,640
fan, but she doesn't live in the
city. She seems scared of the

735
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:17,640
city, and her real only tie is
that her mom knows the other

736
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,900
moms, and she's met a couple of
them through bravacon.

737
00:47:25,220 --> 00:47:28,400
And I would just like to point
something out as far as like

738
00:47:28,820 --> 00:47:32,720
regional and like where they
live, versus Manhattan. So there

739
00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:37,760
is Bergen County, where Fessler
Margaret and the gorgers moved.

740
00:47:38,300 --> 00:47:42,280
Bergen County is right over the
bridge, right in the same way

741
00:47:42,340 --> 00:47:46,120
that Queens Brooklyn, Staten
Island and the Bronx you have

742
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:49,840
easy access to the city Bergen
County is the same thing. She

743
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:54,580
lives in, what would be
comparable like she's in New

744
00:47:54,580 --> 00:47:59,380
Jersey. Okay? It would be like
me being a New Yorker, but

745
00:47:59,380 --> 00:48:02,880
actually being from where? Page
disorders from upstate New York,

746
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:08,040
and then going to the city. It
take, oh, yeah. It would take.

747
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:12,360
Like, from where do they live?
Montville. It would take at

748
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,480
least two hours, or an hour and
a half, like, with no traffic.

749
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,820
Forget about the fact that you
get stuck in traffic in New

750
00:48:17,820 --> 00:48:24,080
York. I'm googling, yeah. Google
it, it would say 50 Okay, so 50

751
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:28,700
minutes to the city. Oh, sorry,
59 minutes, yeah, to the city.

752
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:32,540
No, which doesn't exist, right?
So you're talking an hour and a

753
00:48:32,540 --> 00:48:37,220
half on a Friday after work to
get to the city, minimum an hour

754
00:48:37,220 --> 00:48:40,420
and a half. Yeah, you'd have to
leave it very off hours for it

755
00:48:40,420 --> 00:48:43,660
to be 55 minutes, so it isn't
all

756
00:48:43,660 --> 00:48:47,260
smiles. That's that is. That's,
yeah, that's not just it's not

757
00:48:47,260 --> 00:48:50,800
the same as Riley living in
Brooklyn. First of all, Brooklyn

758
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:54,880
is the closest borough, but
parts of Brooklyn could take you

759
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,880
longer, but with no traffic, it
would never be. The distance

760
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,860
isn't 55 minutes. Traffic in New
York City can make it such, but

761
00:49:01,860 --> 00:49:04,620
the distance, the actual
distance from Montville, is

762
00:49:04,620 --> 00:49:06,840
that. So that would be like
living an hour upstate in New

763
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:10,440
York and just hopping to the
city. It doesn't happen. So it

764
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:15,240
doesn't fit in that way. I agree
with you. She doesn't, other

765
00:49:15,240 --> 00:49:19,200
than Brooks, who she really only
knows from bravocon and Riley,

766
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,040
and actually her and Riley don't
get along. We've gotten a lot of

767
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,820
emails about it, and actually,
Gia made a comment that I don't

768
00:49:25,820 --> 00:49:28,880
know how to please Riley, like I
wasn't comp I guess Riley

769
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,820
thought something she said was
comparing Teresa to candy, and

770
00:49:32,300 --> 00:49:35,540
Gia is like, I didn't mean to do
that. It was just a matter of

771
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,060
saying both our moms were
housewives. I guess we'll see

772
00:49:38,060 --> 00:49:41,980
the details of that in upcoming
episodes. Riley doesn't like

773
00:49:41,980 --> 00:49:45,520
GIA, yeah, and Gia really isn't
heavily featured. She's very

774
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,160
much she was only in it a little
bit. Yeah,

775
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:54,100
we'll see how it goes from here.
Then we have Amira, who got her

776
00:49:54,100 --> 00:49:58,840
start as a beauty director from
Paper Magazine. You know, it

777
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:04,380
says, like new. City has really
seen her glow up. I forget what

778
00:50:04,380 --> 00:50:08,340
the word she used, something
busted, crusted and dusted when

779
00:50:08,340 --> 00:50:11,580
she came to the city. And then
she worked for Victoria with

780
00:50:11,580 --> 00:50:15,180
Victoria's Secret, which she
says is really what got her

781
00:50:15,180 --> 00:50:19,620
noticed. And she is a content
creator. She went to NYU with

782
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:24,080
Brooks. I love her Instagram
bio. She describes herself as

783
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,440
the Barbie you always wanted.
And then, of course, as I'm like

784
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,860
looking into her, I got sucked
into watching her makeup videos,

785
00:50:30,860 --> 00:50:34,940
which I very much enjoyed. And
she's definitely got that it

786
00:50:34,940 --> 00:50:36,620
factor. And I like watching her.

787
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,420
They didn't mention it, but
somebody told me ahead of time

788
00:50:40,420 --> 00:50:43,120
that she's trans. I don't know
if that's what she meant by her

789
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,940
New York City glow up. I
actually asked the person again,

790
00:50:45,940 --> 00:50:48,880
because I'm like, I don't know.
I couldn't tell so I don't this

791
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,280
is what I was told. So I assume
it's true. That's not like a

792
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:58,180
rumor. Overall. Love New York
being the character. Love The

793
00:50:58,180 --> 00:51:02,940
Gossip Girl. Vibes. Pleasantly
surprised. I really am so

794
00:51:02,940 --> 00:51:06,000
satisfied with how good it was
and it was worth the wait. Yeah,

795
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,240
I agree. I was prepared to not
like the show after we were told

796
00:51:09,240 --> 00:51:13,260
we might not, because it was
made for Gen Z, but I really

797
00:51:13,260 --> 00:51:15,720
liked it. Does that make us Gen
Z? It makes

798
00:51:15,720 --> 00:51:18,840
us the parent of people who
probably CUSP Gen Z. I don't

799
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,380
think our kids are Gen Z. If
they are, they're like, the last

800
00:51:21,380 --> 00:51:22,340
year or something. I

801
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:27,500
yeah, I don't know. I was
actually asking my son seemed to

802
00:51:27,500 --> 00:51:29,840
know, but of course, then I've
completely forgotten

803
00:51:29,900 --> 00:51:34,340
maybe Jen why I don't know my
son argues with my daughter that

804
00:51:34,340 --> 00:51:36,560
he's a different generation.
They're three years apart. I'm

805
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,080
like, just logistically, you
can't be a different generation.

806
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:43,300
Yeah, regardless of what the
Google Search says the year cut

807
00:51:43,300 --> 00:51:44,020
off is,

808
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,260
yeah, you're raising the same
house by the same parents three

809
00:51:47,260 --> 00:51:50,500
years right? Part, or your your
ages are three years apart,

810
00:51:50,500 --> 00:51:51,700
yeah? So

811
00:51:51,700 --> 00:51:54,160
we don't have much time, but I
think we should touch a little

812
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:55,420
bit on the valley.

813
00:51:55,660 --> 00:51:59,740
Yes. Do we want to go straight
to the jacks of it all I see

814
00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:06,660
stuff, yeah? Because I texted
you this morning, because one of

815
00:52:06,660 --> 00:52:10,740
our friends, a friend of the
pod, he's a he's in cocked he's

816
00:52:10,740 --> 00:52:14,220
a cocktail or he's a friend all
in cocktail as well. And he's

817
00:52:14,220 --> 00:52:17,580
a content creator, Stone Cold
daddy. He makes hysterical

818
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,140
parenting memes fall so

819
00:52:19,140 --> 00:52:24,140
funny, I wanted to start. I
wanted to read his comments, and

820
00:52:24,140 --> 00:52:27,440
I asked his permission. He said
it was fine, because obviously

821
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:31,940
you guys know, like, we don't we
protect everybody's we protect

822
00:52:31,940 --> 00:52:36,740
everybody and but he he is cool
with us reading this. So this is

823
00:52:36,740 --> 00:52:41,620
what he said. I completely agree
with this, with this take and

824
00:52:41,620 --> 00:52:45,160
ask you if you are cool with us
reading it on the pod and you

825
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:50,560
agreed so it says, Bravo needs
to get Jax off the television as

826
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:54,100
soon as possible. I'm usually
here. This is stone called Daddy

827
00:52:54,100 --> 00:52:56,860
saying this, which is true. I'm
usually here to talk shit, but

828
00:52:56,860 --> 00:52:59,740
there's something deeper at
stake here. Every minute he's

829
00:52:59,740 --> 00:53:03,840
featured makes the audience
complicit in furthering what is

830
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:07,680
obviously a potentially very
dangerous situation. He's prone

831
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:11,460
to violent outbursts with a
child present. He's prone to be

832
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:15,420
coked up around his kid. We're
not talking toxic anymore. We're

833
00:53:15,420 --> 00:53:18,720
talking the roots of clear and
present danger. The valley

834
00:53:18,720 --> 00:53:21,920
features him in countless
situations where he's surrounded

835
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,700
by people who are not, who
aren't holding him accountable

836
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:30,680
and enabling him to continue to
behave horribly, friends, family

837
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:36,260
and the god damn that god damned
is, he said, network implored

838
00:53:36,260 --> 00:53:41,740
him to go to rehab, and he said
f that and made a mockery out of

839
00:53:41,740 --> 00:53:46,420
whatever the F he called rehab,
microphones, cameras and

840
00:53:46,420 --> 00:53:50,380
exposure continue to be poured
upon someone exploiting the

841
00:53:50,380 --> 00:53:53,560
attention to paint a narrative
that there are two sides to

842
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:57,520
every story. If there's two
sides, they're both effed, and

843
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:01,380
so is he. There will already be
questions as to why Bravo

844
00:54:01,380 --> 00:54:04,320
allowed him to have a platform
for so long, and there's

845
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:09,180
potential questions that they
don't want to or won't be able

846
00:54:09,180 --> 00:54:13,080
to answer if this escalates,
everything we know about

847
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:18,000
situations that tell like this
tell us that unless there is

848
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:22,340
significant intervention, These
things only go in one direction,

849
00:54:22,340 --> 00:54:24,920
straight to health. And then he
says, Sorry for yelling.

850
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:31,760
I could not I couldn't have said
it so succinctly and very well

851
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:36,080
said. And I think it sums up
what the audience is feeling.

852
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:40,960
And I have a lot of you DMing
me, he brings such a dark side

853
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,980
to it, and there's the other
side of it that is trying to

854
00:54:44,980 --> 00:54:50,200
group Jesse and now, to some
extent, Danny in with him, and

855
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:55,660
you can't compare. As there was
a meme that pointed out on

856
00:54:55,660 --> 00:55:00,720
Twitter. It said, You can't
compare Jax and Jesse. Yeah,

857
00:55:00,720 --> 00:55:04,620
jax's son appears afraid of him,
and Jesse's daughter adores her.

858
00:55:05,100 --> 00:55:07,500
Yeah, Jesse isn't a perfect
person, and certainly his

859
00:55:07,500 --> 00:55:10,860
treatment of Michelle has been
awful, from what we've seen. But

860
00:55:10,860 --> 00:55:16,020
Jax is dangerous. When the
producer broke the third wall to

861
00:55:16,020 --> 00:55:18,540
tell Brittany that Jax was
texting her and that there was a

862
00:55:18,540 --> 00:55:22,460
bug in the house and he could
hear what they were saying. I

863
00:55:22,460 --> 00:55:24,380
felt like we were in a horror
movie.

864
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:30,320
And what's so weird, and this is
where I look at Brittany a lot

865
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:35,600
differently after this episode,
is that she didn't like freak

866
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,720
out. It was almost like she took
it in stride, because she's been

867
00:55:38,720 --> 00:55:44,260
dealing with ABUSE for so long,
like she's got to get out of

868
00:55:44,260 --> 00:55:49,240
this, and like I felt for her so
hard when we saw Jax be

869
00:55:49,420 --> 00:55:53,440
contrite, and, oh, I'm gonna
give her all the money from the

870
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:58,000
podcast, because, you know,
that's the right thing to do.

871
00:55:58,240 --> 00:56:02,160
And then a day or two later,
sends her this awful email

872
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:06,720
saying, No, you can't, you know,
you can't have it, and just

873
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:08,160
eating her,

874
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:12,360
it was and so something like
that, which, of course, we all

875
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:18,180
know that he does this, right,
but seeing him make himself look

876
00:56:18,180 --> 00:56:22,040
like the good guy by Telling
Janet and Jason on their

877
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,500
FaceTime call, which, by the
way, you guys noted that they

878
00:56:24,500 --> 00:56:27,500
started on an iPhone, they went
to an Android. I assumed that

879
00:56:27,500 --> 00:56:30,080
was something with production.
Maybe the signal was bad, or,

880
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:36,380
who knows, but, and then we
watch Brittany read the email

881
00:56:36,380 --> 00:56:40,060
that he sent saying, you're on
your own to figure out the

882
00:56:40,060 --> 00:56:43,240
mortgage. How about the fact
that he also rented that

883
00:56:43,240 --> 00:56:46,360
apartment while she was already
paying for a rental. It's just

884
00:56:46,660 --> 00:56:51,520
his behavior is so erratic and
frightening. He can't be on the

885
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:52,240
show, but

886
00:56:52,240 --> 00:56:58,900
he is, I guess where I was
going. That point is he is

887
00:56:58,900 --> 00:57:06,060
directing his anger at her. He's
got so much anger and and, you

888
00:57:06,060 --> 00:57:10,680
know, we know from Jax, his
mouth himself, that when he gets

889
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:14,100
out of this first rehab, he goes
right back to his shit, right,

890
00:57:14,100 --> 00:57:17,520
goes back to drinking, goes back
to cocaine. And that's when

891
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:22,820
things tend to get really
volatile with him, and I just, I

892
00:57:22,820 --> 00:57:29,060
want to see Brittany and Cruz
get off of this horrific roller

893
00:57:29,060 --> 00:57:34,520
coaster. Because I, I think
whether or not there has been

894
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:38,000
physical abuse other than the
table situation that we have

895
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:42,580
heard about there Stone Cold
daddy is exactly right. This

896
00:57:42,580 --> 00:57:46,420
isn't headed anywhere good. And
I think some of Britney's

897
00:57:46,420 --> 00:57:51,580
reactions are stunted because
she is gotten into this cycle of

898
00:57:51,580 --> 00:57:54,160
abuse and doesn't know
different. Yeah, 100%

899
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:59,620
I'm like, sorry, my daughter
just came in and interrupted me.

900
00:57:59,620 --> 00:58:00,660
What else is new?

901
00:58:00,660 --> 00:58:05,400
I just um, I hope Bravo is
hearing us. I think I again,

902
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:10,200
Stone Cold daddy is absolutely
right that because Jax has been,

903
00:58:10,260 --> 00:58:14,520
quote, unquote, the star, there
is so much enablement. They, you

904
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:20,040
know, they give somebody with a
drug and alcohol problem a bar

905
00:58:20,460 --> 00:58:25,460
like, yeah, yeah. It's just he's
exactly right. I hope Bravo's

906
00:58:25,460 --> 00:58:26,000
listening

907
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:30,260
that scene. I mean, so many of
this, we haven't, they haven't

908
00:58:30,260 --> 00:58:33,980
shown us, but they've told us
about the violence and that

909
00:58:33,980 --> 00:58:38,780
scene, which is mild in
comparison to where and he threw

910
00:58:38,780 --> 00:58:41,080
a table at Brittany and
physically injured her, I would

911
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:46,360
imagine, was chilling, and I
think, as an example, the abuse

912
00:58:46,900 --> 00:58:50,080
that Taylor suffered from.
Russell Bravo wasn't aware of,

913
00:58:50,500 --> 00:58:54,940
and when he ultimately committed
suicide, they weren't culpable.

914
00:58:54,940 --> 00:58:58,540
They didn't know about the
abuse. It wasn't public. We all

915
00:58:58,540 --> 00:59:01,860
know about this. The network
made him go to rehab. It

916
00:59:01,860 --> 00:59:05,940
obviously wasn't successful. He
hasn't changed. Yeah, so the

917
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:09,720
next logical step is for us to
hear that he won't be on the

918
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,900
show, which I believe we will
hear. I can't imagine they're

919
00:59:12,900 --> 00:59:16,440
going to keep him on. I hope
that I'm right. Let's hope we

920
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:18,540
love you guys. Sorry

921
00:59:18,540 --> 00:59:22,460
to end on that. Yeah, sorry to
end on a bummer of a note, but

922
00:59:22,580 --> 00:59:25,280
we've got some good stuff for
cocktail party that we'll

923
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:28,280
discuss, and we'll also talk a
little bit more about all the

924
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:33,440
other all the other Valley
stuff. And also, here's a happy

925
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:39,260
note. Kristen Doty is gonna have
a baby any minute, so keep an

926
00:59:39,260 --> 00:59:43,660
eye out for that news, because I
think her due date is might be

927
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:45,280
today, June 5. Yes,

928
00:59:45,340 --> 00:59:48,640
very close. And I'm so excited,
because I feel like I'm gonna

929
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:50,320
love the baby name too. I

930
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:55,120
know I'm really excited. So
we'll be on baby watch for both

931
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:59,920
her and for Nia. Yes, till next
time you.

932
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:09,780
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