From Aid to Growth

The Threshold

On today’s show, we are tackling what is possibly the biggest challenge facing global health right now: funding. Host Henry Bonsu speaks with Indonesia Minister of Health Budi Gunadi Sadikin about how he approaches multilateral organizations for financing, as well as his vision for Indonesia. Sadikin was also a longtime banker before going into government. 

Then, Bonsu talks with Dr. Ngozi Erondu, the technical director of GLIDE, the Global Institute for Disease Elimination. Erondu participated in the first-ever Africa Health Sovereignty Summit this year in Accra, with African government officials and global health partners. They strategized about how to redefine Africa’s role in its own health future—including shifting from external donors towards self-reliance. Erondu explains why she is optimistic about this initiative. 

The Threshold is made possible in part through funding from the Gates Foundation.

Guests and organizations:

  • Budi Gunadi Sadikin, Indonesia Minister of Health
  • Dr. Ngozi Erondu, Technical Director of GLIDE, the Global Institute for Disease Elimination.
2025-10-16 37 min

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