Aging Hack: Women 40+ Who Do THIS Age Slower (It’s Not Cardio) with JJ Virgin

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<v SPEAKER_01>Most women say, I don't want muscle.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Oh, I don't want to lift because I'm gonna get big.

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<v SPEAKER_01>That's not true.

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<v SPEAKER_01>You do not get bigger lifting weights, you get bigger not lifting weights.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Exercise, keeping muscle on, especially as we age, transforms our brain, literally slows down the aging process.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The single thing that makes the biggest difference in how you age is exercise.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Everything else pales in comparison.

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<v SPEAKER_00>If it was a drug, it would be the number one prescribed drug of choice.

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<v SPEAKER_00>If you don't have time for 10 minutes a day of exercise, you have got the problem.

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<v SPEAKER_00>There's a problem in how your life is designed.

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<v SPEAKER_00>People who did four and a half to ten minutes a day in one to two minute increments of things that were hard for them lowered their all-cause mortality, cardio, and cardiovascular risk by 40 to 50% compared to people who weren't.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so that blows up that hole.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I don't have time.

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<v SPEAKER_01>High intensity training has been shown and proven to burn more fat than staying in the fat burning zone for an hour.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Why does it burn more fat?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Oh, you're gonna hear about it all.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Longevity, ladies, stay tuned because you're gonna hear, I know you're gonna be convinced why weightlifting.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yes, weightlifting is going to anti-age you.

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<v SPEAKER_01>More than anything, we're gonna hear about diets.

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<v SPEAKER_01>We're gonna hear about all the myth.

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<v SPEAKER_01>We're gonna bust through them all.

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<v SPEAKER_01>What about things like methylene blue, NAD, cold baths?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Because I am here with expert JJ Virgin, one of my longtime friends.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Like 20 years, right?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I know, right?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Oh my gosh.

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<v SPEAKER_01>That would look better too.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So that's the that's the key thing.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I hope we both do.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yes.

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<v SPEAKER_01>That's awesome, right?

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<v SPEAKER_01>When that happens.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Was I fully better then when you knew me?

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<v SPEAKER_01>That was, you know, I think I got much better around 2005, 8, somewhere in that zone.

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<v SPEAKER_01>But yeah, so I probably wasn't even completely healed.

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<v SPEAKER_01>But fact is, is that that was all the way back designs for health.

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<v SPEAKER_01>You worked for designs for health back then, right?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And um what were we we resonated on a project with maximized living or something like that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Well, I went in there to teach them how to use testing.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That's right.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's actually how the whole virgin diet was.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Organic acid testing.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It was uh Yeah, it was organic acid testing and food sensitivity testing.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so I got to look at all these food sensitivity tests.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And once I looked at them all, I'm like, why do we have an elimination diet pulling out foods that are not the foods that people are sensitive to?

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<v SPEAKER_00>That's where the whole virgin diet came from.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, that's it.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And that was one of your books.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Um I think you have four New York Times bestsellers.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Am I right on that?

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<v SPEAKER_00>There are soon to be uh I have six books, but this next book's the big book.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Uh-huh.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And why do you say the big book?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Is it just bigger in size?

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<v SPEAKER_00>No, it's bigger in concept.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's the concept that I think it's the concept I've really been working on for 40 years.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Like when I look back and think about what was going on even even when I was in high school.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So in high school, you know, when you're tall, everyone says that you should be a model, right?

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<v SPEAKER_00>But here's the funny thing that happened.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I grew up, I was always the tallest girl.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And for most of it, I was also the tallest kid until I got to high school.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so I had to be on the boys' team because there were never enough boys.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So I always played on the boys' team.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So when I went to high school, the boys had a really amazing gym and the girls did not.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Right.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So I just worked out with the football team in the gym, squats and chess presses, all the fun stuff.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And then I went to a modeling agency because I was tall, and they told me, and I was basically the same weight I am now.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So six feet tall, like 145, and they go, Oh, you're gonna need to lose at least 20 pounds.

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<v SPEAKER_01>They were just basing that on scale.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, but they also were looking at me, and I I've literally stood next to I used to.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Wait, did you have the m the the I had I I mean, I was doing gymnastics at the time and lifting weights, but I wasn't as muscular as now, but same, I mean, same size.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I actually remember my husband.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I went and put on my high school cheerleader outfit and it fit.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So I was the same size, like everything still is the same.

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<v SPEAKER_00>A little more muscular now, but you know, I remember standing next to some of these models.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I used to work in South Beach and help models with nutrition, and they were deathly afraid of muscle, right?

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<v SPEAKER_00>And I just was broader than them.

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<v SPEAKER_00>They're just tiny, tiny, like there's like someone stretched a person.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So I got that information.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I go, all right, well, I'll lose 20 pounds.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I lost about five.

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<v SPEAKER_00>My coach was like, Are you anorexic?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I couldn't work out anymore, like everything was suffering.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And I remember at the time I went, you know what?

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<v SPEAKER_00>I could either be the skinny or I could be strong, and I'm gonna be strong.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And back then, this was this was in the 80s.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That was not cool.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Waif was in, not strong.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Like I feel like I'm finally in style.

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<v SPEAKER_01>You're right, yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_01>It's true.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Well, I think you're in style now, I hope.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yes.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Because of the education around how this really changes longevity, metabolic uh diseases.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So let's go right after that because I I made the comment in the opening because I uh you know, watching your Instagram, I mean, you're one of the number one people, maybe Gabrielle.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Gabrielle's doing amazing work.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We're talking about Dr.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Gabrielle Lyon, who writes Strong Forever.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Um, and it's just so great to have someone who was it worked in gerontology who's like, you have to do this, right?

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<v SPEAKER_00>So she's fantastic.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And I would put both of you equally out front, though, as far as making an impact, um, especially in women, but this applies to men too, that exercise, keeping muscle on, especially as we age, transforms our brain, literally slows down the aging process.

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<v SPEAKER_01>But the reason I opened with that is because most women say, I don't want muscle.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Oh, I don't want to lift because I'm gonna get big.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Okay.

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<v SPEAKER_01>It's you know, that's not true.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So let's start there and then let's get into the studies on what it does for your brain, your metabolic health, and just your longevity.

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<v SPEAKER_00>What people don't know about me is I'm actually an exercise physiologist.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That was my first whole world.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And she by the way, she has three nutrition, literally certified trip.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Triple board and nutrition, but my like I started in graduate school right after graduating from UCLA, where I went as a theater major, useful.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Uh then I but I ended up as an English major.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I went in to do my graduate work in biomechanics.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And then I actually was doing my PhD in exercise fizz with nutrition and aging.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I had run out of classes in the exercise department.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so I decided to jump ship and go into nutrition.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Because it at the time I was like, exercise was kind of, we were seen as sort of the peasants on the totem pole.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Like right now, you look at longevity, the single thing that makes the biggest difference in how you age is exercise.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Hands down, everything else pales in comparison.

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<v SPEAKER_00>If it was a drug, it'd be the number one prescribed drug of choice.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You have every major longevity expert leaning in, despite the fact that a lot of them, I listen, I go, Have you ever taken an exercise physiology class?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Come on.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, it's like some of the stuff you're saying doesn't make sense.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Um but I'm glad everyone's talking about it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But literally, when I was in school, we were taught don't lift weights till you lose the weight, which is couldn't be more wrong.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Everything was about cardio.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And I was fortunate in that I was paying my way through graduate school by training people.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And what I saw very quickly was that that didn't work.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And especially for women, because the majority of my clients were 45 plus men and women, but especially those women, it was right in that time of them going off the hormonal cliff and doing a lot of cardio was making them worse.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so I just doubled down.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I used to take them all on field trips to Gold's Gym in Venice because they could see there.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Have you ever been to Gold's Gym in Venice?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Okay.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I'm looking at these giants going, Oh my gosh, these people are huge.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The reason I love going there is I was like, I look like I'm so petite at this place.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But I would take them there to show them that they'd see women in their 70s that you would kill to look like as a woman.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And unless the woman had taken steroids, none of them were big.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Like you do not get bigger lifting weights, you get bigger not lifting weights.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Muscle is your metabolic space.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Right?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Muscle holds everything in tighter.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's gonna give you a better metabolism.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That is not the big part of it though.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Like people get excited about that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We used to think, oh, a pound of muscle is a hundred calories a day.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's not.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's like 10, maybe, you know.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But getting that muscle on requires some energy too.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But it also gives carbohydrates a place to land that's not in your visceral adipose tissue.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It helps you with better blood sugar regulation, it helps with insulin sensitivity.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I mean, it's just it changes everything.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Everything.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And by the way, you made a point because I I don't want people to get lost in this distinction.

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<v SPEAKER_01>You made a really important distinction.

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<v SPEAKER_01>We're talking about strength training.

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<v SPEAKER_01>We're talking about weights versus cardio, which in the 80s and 90s, it was all about the cardio.

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<v SPEAKER_01>A woman would never think to lift weights, right?

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<v SPEAKER_01>My clients do.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Well, yeah, well, exactly.

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<v SPEAKER_01>But very few.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I'm talking about mainstream.

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<v SPEAKER_01>You know, but the fact is there was just a new study out.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Um like, I don't know, recently anyway, at least we got out there this week, that again, it's in uh cardio type of training, people who jog actually are taking years off their life, right?

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<v SPEAKER_01>And so again, uh another argument that it's not about the cardio, that it's more about the weightlifting.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Well, I think it's about all of it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>However, if you had to prioritize, I'd prioritize weights.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Because you can also get you can get better VO2 max, you can get better bone density, you can get more muscle.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, cardio has its place.

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<v SPEAKER_00>However, if you were just focusing on doing cardio, and in fact, you know, there I I wish I had this study in front of us.

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<v SPEAKER_00>There was a s a twin study where they looked at the guy who did loads of cardio and the guy who'd done nothing and compared these two guys.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And the guy who'd done nothing, the couch potato guy who I think was a truck driver.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Did you do you know this study?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And then the other guy who'd been this marathon runner, the truck driver, sedentary, better muscle mass than runner.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And you look at it and go, well, you know, some cardio is important.

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<v SPEAKER_00>However, I would argue that like you can get a lot of that done just with walking.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Um but if you're doing loads of cardio, it's catabolic.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, of course.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And oxidative, you know?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Violates a lot of it that people are doing.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I didn't look at the study yet.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Someone sent it to me.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I just looked at the headline literally today.

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<v SPEAKER_01>But they're violating a premise called hormesis, meaning they're doing too much, not adapting, they're putting themselves in this catabolic stage.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So there is a certain amount of cardio that people could adapt to and it could become positive.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I think that's kind of what you look at, like if you were going to look at a perfect exercise prescription, and it would be perfect for that person because you'd want to do testing.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But if I independent of knowing anything, if you just said this is a 50-year-year-old woman, what would you do?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Like, beyond first just making sure she was moving throughout the day and not sitting, right?

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<v SPEAKER_00>So that she's got her NEAT activated, her non-exercise activity thermogenesis, which is actually our biggest uh lever to change our metabolism.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That's the biggest modifiable level.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So neat to repeat that though, because that's that's a big thing.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So when we look at your total daily energy expenditure, we have your resting metabolic rate if what we do if we just sat here all day and talked.

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<v SPEAKER_01>We're burning energy right now.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We're burning some, but not a ton.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Now, if we move more, we'll burn this as neat when I do this.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Then you have the thermic effect of food.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So we know that if you're eating displacing some of that pro ultra-processed food with some higher protein, you're gonna have a better thermic effect because protein is the highest thermic effect of food, but that's still not gonna be a big lever.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Then you have activity, and within activity you have exercise activity and you have non-exercise activity.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And people tend to think, you know, the exercise is the biggest lever for changing my metabolism.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You can change your resting metabolic rate by adding more muscle on.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And you can change a little bit on the TEF and the resting by being a little bit more in ketogenic and having more protein.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But on the activity side, what they've seen is that let's say you go to the gym.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Quite often people will go to the gym and sit more afterwards.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Like their body will want to maintain homeostasis.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So one of the first things I like to do is have someone just start tracking how much they move so that when they add in the resistance training, that's the next step.

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<v SPEAKER_00>They don't steal away from their neat.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Oh, I never thought about that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Because that's the tendency.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So they use a device, right?

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<v SPEAKER_01>A movement device, a ring or whatever, right?

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<v SPEAKER_01>There's many of those things today.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Counts your movement, your steps, et cetera, et cetera.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So because you're saying that most people, when they start doing more in the gym, they offset it.

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<v SPEAKER_01>But I didn't know that.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I didn't know that to be a fact.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yep, yep.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Interesting.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Enough studies have shown it now.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So then the next step is to start resistance training.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And the reality is if someone hasn't done it, which so many women for so long, they would do cardio or they would do things like Pilates.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And I know whenever I bring up this, then there's like the war.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But for most people, Pilates is not going to be enough of a stimulus to start to really build strength like you need to.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It might if you're deconditioned, but then you're gonna need to get it.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So there's a focus on the core, but you're saying there's a lot of things.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, I I think that if all we focused on is getting is getting into the most basic resistance training movements, do a squat.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And I'll hear people say, I can't do that because of my back and my knees.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And I'll say, You need to do it because of your back and your knees.

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<v SPEAKER_00>In life, you have to get off the toilet, you get out of a chair, you get out of the car, you squat all the time.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so if you're telling me you can't do this because of bad back and knees and you avoid it, you're gonna make yourself worse, not better.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You gotta train to get better at life, and then life involves squatting.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so you can do it in a controlled environment to start, which is great, so that when you get out into the wild, you don't hurt yourself.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, and you're not even talking about like barb barbell on the back.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, body weight, yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But do you know what's wild if if all you did was say, I'm gonna start doing some air squats every day.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And I'll do my air squats and I'll attach them, I'll habit stack them to after I eat.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And after I eat, I'll do a minute of air squats.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Do you know what that would do to your blood sugar regulation?

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's incredible.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And of course your quads, you know.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And then if you could add just a little jump in there.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Oh yeah, that that burns more than anything.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I I do them.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I do them because I'm done putting weights on you know my back at my age, but the the jump squats is magic.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Funny story.

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<v SPEAKER_00>When I was doing my graduate work in biomechanics, I decided I wanted to do a project on plyometrics, which is jump training.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so a girlfriend and I were were teaching group exercise, so we're we're gonna create a class around this.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Now, group exercise was always an hour.

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<v SPEAKER_00>There were a couple express classes that were 30 minutes.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We couldn't even make it to like in 10 minutes, you're you're done.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You're toasted, you're and we could not mentally figure out how to create this class.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's like now it's so obvious.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's like that was the whole point.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You could have you could do this.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Like you look at high-intensity interval training, there's something that you can do in a couple minutes to 20 minutes and totally activate, you know, I mean, all sorts of amazing things, raise lactate, get your brain going, get your mitochondria going, your heart.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But back to resistance training.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Because by the way, let me let me just finish that thought because that that's such a great point.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Someone says, I don't have a lot of time.

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<v SPEAKER_01>What you just said is you could start, you don't even have to jump right away.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Just air squats with your body weight, literally three sets to exhaustion.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I mean, in a minute of doing that, you're exhausted.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Do that three times, three times a week.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Your life's gonna change.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I mean, that that exercise, you're working all your big muscles and your your cardiovascular system all at once.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Everything.

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<v SPEAKER_01>It's HIT training, you're burning out glycogen, you're burning fat for literally 36 hours after that.

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<v SPEAKER_01>You're controlling your blood sugar.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And I don't know if you saw this study on um vigorous intermittent lifestyle physical activity, the Vilpa study where they looked at people and they found that people who did four and a half to ten minutes total a day in one to two minute increments of these types of things.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It could be running up the stairs, it could be squats, whatever these things are that were hard for them, that they lowered their all-cause mortality cardio and cardiovascular risk by 40 to 50 percent compared to people who weren't.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so that uh that blows up that whole I don't have time.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, you know, I mean, first of all, make time.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, absolutely.

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<v SPEAKER_00>If you don't have time for 10 minutes a day of exercise, you have got a problem.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, like there's a problem in how your life is designed at this moment.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And you know, having like special needs kids and running things out of being in an ICU and like being sole financial support for my kids, I found time.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So you can find time, you have to do this.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Like you have to prioritize.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I I just literally had a conversation with a guy who makes money.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So I I just met this guy.

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<v SPEAKER_01>What he does for a living is literally buy insurance policies, like life insurance policies.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And he has become an expert in knowing when people are going to die.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So let's say someone hits 70 years old, they can't afford their policy, they just give them up.

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<v SPEAKER_01>They don't realize that someone will come in and give them 100 grand for it and pay the premium, knowing the numbers, the statistics on when they'll die and it pays out.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Wow.

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<v SPEAKER_01>This guy's printing money.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Wow.

00:17:32.960 --> 00:17:39.519
<v SPEAKER_01>Now I say all that to say we started talking about, I'm like, oh, do you do DNA methylation testing, this and that?

00:17:39.680 --> 00:17:40.319
<v SPEAKER_01>He's like, no.

00:17:40.480 --> 00:17:41.839
<v SPEAKER_01>It's like I am so accurate.

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<v SPEAKER_01>VO2 Max?

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<v SPEAKER_01>So some of the things, so one of the things, yeah, that's right.

00:17:46.160 --> 00:17:48.480
<v SPEAKER_01>I mean, he knows all these little things, right?

00:17:48.960 --> 00:17:51.119
<v SPEAKER_01>But the big one is just can you look at it?

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<v SPEAKER_01>If someone even uh does any exercise or not, right?

00:17:54.400 --> 00:17:58.559
<v SPEAKER_01>It's like he looks at just how active they are, not active they are, how tall they are.

00:17:58.720 --> 00:18:01.039
<v SPEAKER_01>This is why you have to concern yourself with longevity.

00:18:01.359 --> 00:18:09.359
<v SPEAKER_01>Uh taller people, you said like the really tall men, especially, actually, um, they absolutely live less, so they'll pay more for those policies.

00:18:09.599 --> 00:18:16.000
<v SPEAKER_01>Anyways, point is is that exercise is a game changer when it comes to living longer healthy.

00:18:16.160 --> 00:18:18.799
<v SPEAKER_01>So then back to your point with strength training.

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<v SPEAKER_01>We never got there, but like resistive training, yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Well, okay, so because what would be great to leave with is if you were gonna go, if you you if you're listening to this going, I want to not just live longer, I mean there's lifespan, there's health span, there's strength span.

00:18:36.400 --> 00:18:40.319
<v SPEAKER_00>And I think we focus on strength span because it makes all the rest of it happen.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so strength span is really maintaining or increasing that muscle strength as you age so that you can do all the things that you want to do.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I don't know if you've seen this study, like and this was done on young men.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And what they found was one week of hospitalization, you know, immobilization, one week, 37% decrease in insulin sensitivity.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Oh, no, I didn't know and two pounds of muscle loss.

00:19:07.519 --> 00:19:09.279
<v SPEAKER_00>That is in a young man.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Right, testosterone, the whole thing.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You think about what is happening now when someone's older and they, you know, break a hip or whatever happens, you lose a pound of muscle or two pounds of muscle.

00:19:20.799 --> 00:19:27.119
<v SPEAKER_00>It could take you one to two months to get that back if you're even ever going to get it back.

00:19:27.359 --> 00:19:33.440
<v SPEAKER_00>So, I mean, this is why this is so key mission critical is you want to think of your muscle like that insurance policy.

00:19:33.680 --> 00:19:36.319
<v SPEAKER_00>You want to be putting on as much as you possibly can.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I've been like, okay, how do I pack on as much muscle?

00:19:38.480 --> 00:19:42.640
<v SPEAKER_00>And I do have some cool, some cool things that I found that don't involve steroids.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So Yeah, we'll talk about all of that because but I I hope the the ladies in particular are hearing that, right?

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<v SPEAKER_01>That muscle is important.

00:19:50.480 --> 00:19:53.119
<v SPEAKER_01>We we don't need you to be on stage, you know, that's why.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We're not we're not talking bodybuilding.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And here's the thing there's three reasons I I like to give for muscle that I think are easy for people to remember.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And with this whole umbrella of muscle changes everything, you know, you hear people talk about oh, my metabolism, muscle fixes your metabolism.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's the number one driver.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So muscle number one, metabolic spanks.

00:20:12.480 --> 00:20:15.359
<v SPEAKER_00>So we talked about that, you know, it holds everything in tighter.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You want to go sleeveless, there's no spanks you're wearing.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You better have and and people say, Oh, I want to be toned.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Well, that muscle contraction, that parcel contraction is what tone is.

00:20:25.359 --> 00:20:27.119
<v SPEAKER_00>You want tone, lift weights.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That's how you get it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And then muscle is your little sugar sponge.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So it gives carbohydrates a good place to go, right?

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<v SPEAKER_01>And then the third thing is meaning you're not storing it as fat, you're but you're it's stored in your muscle for use later.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Right, right.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So and then the third thing is, and that's why air squats after you eat.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I remember hearing someone say, look, if you want to eat pie, then go do some push-ups.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I'm like, I don't know if I really want to tell someone that.

00:20:53.599 --> 00:20:53.920
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, well, you know what?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Our friend Ben Greenfield, he he does piss squats, meaning he goes in to go to the this is Ben, he's crazy, right?

00:21:02.960 --> 00:21:07.200
<v SPEAKER_01>We don't, you know, we don't ever do things that long as he is not drinking it like some of our other friends.

00:21:07.519 --> 00:21:07.839
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, yeah.

00:21:07.920 --> 00:21:09.519
<v SPEAKER_01>Oh yeah, we have friends that drink it too.

00:21:09.759 --> 00:21:18.400
<v SPEAKER_01>But um, yes, so he goes, he does literally 20 piss squats before he goes to the bathroom because he figured how many times you go to the bathroom a day if I just did 20.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So it's an interesting way.

00:21:19.920 --> 00:21:20.799
<v SPEAKER_00>But it's habit stacking.

00:21:20.880 --> 00:21:26.559
<v SPEAKER_00>It's just like what if you every time you ate, you had to do something afterwards because you got two things.

00:21:26.720 --> 00:21:29.519
<v SPEAKER_00>You got the activity, but you also got the blood sugar.

00:21:29.599 --> 00:21:31.920
<v SPEAKER_00>You know, now you're sucking the carbs into your muscles.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So it's a double whammy.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So then the third thing, and I think this is the most exciting of the thing.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So one, let's bring them back.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Spanx.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Okay.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Metabolic spanks.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yep.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Pulls everything.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Sugar sponge.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Uh-huh.

00:21:42.880 --> 00:21:44.079
<v SPEAKER_00>They call it the glucose sink.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I'm like, people don't understand that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's a sugar sponge.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And then the third thing is it's a multitasking messenger.

00:21:50.400 --> 00:21:54.319
<v SPEAKER_00>So every time muscles contract, not not if you're doing this, but like they contract.

00:21:54.400 --> 00:21:57.359
<v SPEAKER_00>You did something hard, they release these myokines.

00:21:57.680 --> 00:21:59.759
<v SPEAKER_00>It's like your body's creating its own pharmacy.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Of amazing things.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, which a lot of it's good for the brain.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Yes, super good.

00:22:05.119 --> 00:22:13.599
<v SPEAKER_00>Like bringing my son back from his traumatic brain injury was like you know, uh it's exercise has been the single biggest thing.

00:22:13.759 --> 00:22:20.000
<v SPEAKER_00>You look at what's going on with people with dementia, with Alzheimer's, exercise is the single biggest thing.

00:22:20.480 --> 00:22:25.519
<v SPEAKER_00>So immune system, uh inflammation, insulin resistance.

00:22:25.680 --> 00:22:26.799
<v SPEAKER_00>I mean, you just go on and on.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Everything that people are plagued with today, exercise is an absolute recipe for the win.

00:22:34.400 --> 00:22:38.720
<v SPEAKER_00>So it's like, why isn't this a piece of everybody's recommendation?

00:22:39.119 --> 00:22:39.279
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

00:22:39.519 --> 00:22:44.079
<v SPEAKER_01>And we already hit time, so don't even bother with the saying time because it's you have time.

00:22:44.319 --> 00:22:44.400
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_01>We literally made the argument like eight to ten minutes three times a week literally could change all of those numbers that we're talking about.

00:22:51.599 --> 00:22:56.000
<v SPEAKER_00>And you look at so like the mini I I love minimum effective doses of everything.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Minimum effective dose for moving is somewhere in seven to eight thousand steps a day.

00:23:01.359 --> 00:23:03.200
<v SPEAKER_00>What you measure and monitor, you can improve.

00:23:03.279 --> 00:23:10.160
<v SPEAKER_00>If you just start watching that number, just like one of the things I love people to do is let's track your food for a week and make you use a food scale.

00:23:10.240 --> 00:23:11.039
<v SPEAKER_00>Everything improves.

00:23:11.119 --> 00:23:13.440
<v SPEAKER_00>I didn't have to say anything, like they figured it out.

00:23:13.680 --> 00:23:19.039
<v SPEAKER_00>You just start having someone monitor how much they move, they move more because we just want to compete with ourselves.

00:23:19.279 --> 00:23:21.200
<v SPEAKER_00>I got this today, I'm gonna get this tomorrow, right?

00:23:21.440 --> 00:23:22.400
<v SPEAKER_01>So which one do you like?

00:23:22.559 --> 00:23:25.200
<v SPEAKER_01>The the devices that look at your movement.

00:23:25.519 --> 00:23:26.640
<v SPEAKER_00>Oh, I just use an aura.

00:23:26.880 --> 00:23:27.279
<v SPEAKER_00>That's what I use.

00:23:27.599 --> 00:23:28.559
<v SPEAKER_00>It's the easiest thing.

00:23:28.720 --> 00:23:28.960
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah.

00:23:29.200 --> 00:23:32.799
<v SPEAKER_00>So, you know, I mean, and it holds a charge well, so I don't forget it.

00:23:33.119 --> 00:23:35.039
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, and you can put it on airplane mode at night.

00:23:35.200 --> 00:23:35.920
<v SPEAKER_01>So I like that.

00:23:36.240 --> 00:23:37.519
<v SPEAKER_00>So it's this is the easy.

00:23:37.680 --> 00:23:37.839
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah.

00:23:38.079 --> 00:23:39.759
<v SPEAKER_00>Um so that's it.

00:23:39.920 --> 00:23:45.680
<v SPEAKER_00>The second thing for resistance training, two days a week of 30 minutes is kind of minimal effective dose.

00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:48.720
<v SPEAKER_00>Now, that doesn't mean you have to do two days a week of 30 minutes at once.

00:23:48.880 --> 00:23:50.559
<v SPEAKER_00>You could do 10 minutes a day.

00:23:51.359 --> 00:23:56.720
<v SPEAKER_00>So however you spread it out, it's really hitting each body part twice a week.

00:23:56.880 --> 00:23:58.319
<v SPEAKER_00>So what are the body parts?

00:23:58.559 --> 00:24:02.079
<v SPEAKER_00>I divided it into four parts, but I think we really focus on three.

00:24:02.640 --> 00:24:03.680
<v SPEAKER_00>So it's upper body.

00:24:04.319 --> 00:24:05.599
<v SPEAKER_01>What book is this discussed in?

00:24:05.920 --> 00:24:07.440
<v SPEAKER_00>So this is the next book coming out.

00:24:07.680 --> 00:24:07.920
<v SPEAKER_00>Dang.

00:24:08.240 --> 00:24:09.440
<v SPEAKER_00>This is the metabolism factory.

00:24:09.759 --> 00:24:10.160
<v SPEAKER_00>The big one.

00:24:10.480 --> 00:24:11.119
<v SPEAKER_00>The big book.

00:24:11.599 --> 00:24:15.839
<v SPEAKER_00>Um it is uh hips and thighs, hip and thigh hinging.

00:24:16.160 --> 00:24:18.640
<v SPEAKER_00>So things like squats, deadlifts.

00:24:18.960 --> 00:24:22.880
<v SPEAKER_00>And and again, like look at what you have to do in life and let's do those things.

00:24:23.119 --> 00:24:26.799
<v SPEAKER_00>Now, if someone's just starting out, this can be done just body weight.

00:24:26.960 --> 00:24:31.519
<v SPEAKER_00>If you want to use machines to start because it's safer, fine, just start.

00:24:31.759 --> 00:24:32.400
<v SPEAKER_00>Like just start.

00:24:32.480 --> 00:24:33.599
<v SPEAKER_00>Don't let the hip on.

00:24:34.720 --> 00:24:36.160
<v SPEAKER_00>Great be the enemy of good.

00:24:36.319 --> 00:24:38.400
<v SPEAKER_00>But this can literally be just squatting.

00:24:38.640 --> 00:24:40.319
<v SPEAKER_00>It can be a Ben Greenfield piss squat.

00:24:40.480 --> 00:24:40.720
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, yeah.

00:24:41.119 --> 00:24:42.880
<v SPEAKER_00>Just doesn't matter, just do them.

00:24:43.519 --> 00:24:46.880
<v SPEAKER_00>Then, you know, I love deadlifts because we picked step up off the floor.

00:24:47.200 --> 00:24:48.319
<v SPEAKER_00>So that's a great one.

00:24:48.880 --> 00:24:51.680
<v SPEAKER_00>Um, a push-up because anybody can do that.

00:24:51.839 --> 00:24:52.960
<v SPEAKER_00>You can start against the wall.

00:24:53.279 --> 00:24:54.880
<v SPEAKER_00>And so that's upper body pushing.

00:24:55.039 --> 00:24:57.440
<v SPEAKER_00>Everyone tells me, Oh, I'm doing the I'm doing triceps.

00:24:57.519 --> 00:24:59.279
<v SPEAKER_00>I go, I never do triceps or biceps.

00:24:59.359 --> 00:25:00.400
<v SPEAKER_00>I do push-ups and pull-ups.

00:25:00.720 --> 00:25:01.599
<v SPEAKER_00>You're working your triceps.

00:25:01.839 --> 00:25:04.319
<v SPEAKER_00>So, you know, uh some kind of a row and some kind of a push.

00:25:04.400 --> 00:25:10.799
<v SPEAKER_00>And I love an overhead press because in life we have to push things overhead, but also I'm loading the spine.

00:25:11.200 --> 00:25:13.359
<v SPEAKER_00>I'm loading the spine, I'm loading the hips.

00:25:13.599 --> 00:25:17.119
<v SPEAKER_00>So that's to me that just foundational if you just could do those things.

00:25:17.440 --> 00:25:18.640
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, so let's just review them.

00:25:18.799 --> 00:25:19.119
<v SPEAKER_01>Okay.

00:25:19.279 --> 00:25:23.440
<v SPEAKER_01>You started moving the hips, which is some type of thigh hip and thigh hinging.

00:25:23.519 --> 00:25:25.119
<v SPEAKER_00>So squats are the great ones.

00:25:25.359 --> 00:25:26.079
<v SPEAKER_01>Leg press squats.

00:25:26.160 --> 00:25:27.440
<v SPEAKER_01>I you pick one, is the point.

00:25:27.759 --> 00:25:28.400
<v SPEAKER_00>Pick one of those.

00:25:28.559 --> 00:25:32.160
<v SPEAKER_00>If you're if you're afraid of getting hurt to begin with, you could do a squat at the gym.

00:25:32.400 --> 00:25:35.680
<v SPEAKER_00>You know, um, but you can do this and then a deadlift.

00:25:35.839 --> 00:25:38.880
<v SPEAKER_00>Um, and I especially love a deadlift because we do this all the time.

00:25:39.119 --> 00:25:39.680
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, all the time.

00:25:39.920 --> 00:25:46.559
<v SPEAKER_00>So and then next one would be uh an upper body push, and that is like just a push-up.

00:25:46.880 --> 00:25:46.960
<v SPEAKER_00>Yep.

00:25:47.200 --> 00:25:48.079
<v SPEAKER_00>Because you can do them anywhere.

00:25:48.400 --> 00:25:50.720
<v SPEAKER_01>Like you said, anyone can do them because you can do them against a wall.

00:25:51.039 --> 00:25:52.480
<v SPEAKER_00>You know, and you can progress them.

00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:56.319
<v SPEAKER_00>So you can start against the wall and you can then do one-handed on the floor.

00:25:56.480 --> 00:25:58.480
<v SPEAKER_00>Like there's always a way to progress a push-up.

00:25:58.880 --> 00:26:00.400
<v SPEAKER_00>Um an upper body pull.

00:26:00.880 --> 00:26:02.160
<v SPEAKER_01>Can you do a one-handed on the floor?

00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:03.039
<v SPEAKER_00>I cannot do it.

00:26:03.119 --> 00:26:03.920
<v SPEAKER_00>I used to be able to.

00:26:04.079 --> 00:26:06.319
<v SPEAKER_00>Last time I tried that, I was like, oh, I can't do this.

00:26:06.960 --> 00:26:21.119
<v SPEAKER_01>When I was in high school, um my science teacher made me do one-arm push-ups because I said I could do, I don't remember how number, but I did 42 one-arm push-ups in front of the classroom on the big desk, right?

00:26:21.200 --> 00:26:25.839
<v SPEAKER_01>So that's when I was in like my really marine physical fitness uh shooting.

00:26:26.160 --> 00:26:26.400
<v SPEAKER_01>Amazing.

00:26:26.640 --> 00:26:28.799
<v SPEAKER_01>But anyway, yeah, I bet I could do one, but I'm not going to.

00:26:28.880 --> 00:26:34.720
<v SPEAKER_00>But anyway, we should we should probably have you do that at some point and take a little video of that now that you you blurted it out.

00:26:34.960 --> 00:26:35.279
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, exactly.

00:26:35.440 --> 00:26:37.839
<v SPEAKER_00>I'll use my left hand because tweak to me.

00:26:38.559 --> 00:26:39.359
<v SPEAKER_01>My rotator cuff.

00:26:39.440 --> 00:26:39.680
<v SPEAKER_01>But anyway.

00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:44.559
<v SPEAKER_00>No, the last time I tried to do some show-offy thing like that, I was trying to do, you know, the jackpallants.

00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:45.680
<v SPEAKER_00>Oh, yeah, huh?

00:26:45.759 --> 00:26:46.000
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, yeah.

00:26:46.319 --> 00:26:56.720
<v SPEAKER_00>I was like, oh, that got the cool thing is, uh, of course, the fourth body part would be core, but I don't actively work core.

00:26:56.799 --> 00:27:02.640
<v SPEAKER_00>I've been doing some pelvic floor work with amazing pelvic floor therapists, but not active core stuff because you do it.

00:27:02.799 --> 00:27:06.240
<v SPEAKER_00>If you're doing squats, if you're doing deadlifts, you you're doing it.

00:27:06.400 --> 00:27:10.000
<v SPEAKER_00>And then something, either a row or a pull-up.

00:27:10.400 --> 00:27:14.640
<v SPEAKER_00>I love I'm big on pull-ups because it requires so much grip strength.

00:27:14.799 --> 00:27:18.079
<v SPEAKER_00>So if all you did was to start and just flexed arm, hang at something.

00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:18.480
<v unknown>Yeah.

00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:20.880
<v SPEAKER_01>By the way, uh, you mentioned that earlier.

00:27:21.039 --> 00:27:22.559
<v SPEAKER_01>I wanted to get back to it.

00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:27.119
<v SPEAKER_01>Some things to gauge how long you're going to live, right?

00:27:27.440 --> 00:27:28.480
<v SPEAKER_01>You mentioned grip strength.

00:27:28.640 --> 00:27:28.880
<v SPEAKER_00>Yes.

00:27:29.119 --> 00:27:32.079
<v SPEAKER_01>There's also something, you know, regarding quad strength.

00:27:32.480 --> 00:27:33.440
<v SPEAKER_00>Yes, and brain health.

00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:35.599
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, to talk about some of those things.

00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:37.359
<v SPEAKER_00>So and these are easy to test.

00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:43.279
<v SPEAKER_00>So, I mean, you could do it there, there's norms for all of these things, which is great if you just go and ask chat.

00:27:43.440 --> 00:27:45.920
<v SPEAKER_00>Um, you can buy a hand grip dynamometer.

00:27:46.079 --> 00:27:48.319
<v SPEAKER_00>These are 30 bucks on Amazon.

00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:49.440
<v SPEAKER_00>They're easy to use.

00:27:49.519 --> 00:27:52.880
<v SPEAKER_00>And it's just here's an interesting thing with a hand grip dynamometer.

00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:57.279
<v SPEAKER_00>You do it um one hand, then you do the other hand, so you do it three times each hand.

00:27:57.680 --> 00:27:59.759
<v SPEAKER_00>What you want, and then you take the average.

00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:04.720
<v SPEAKER_00>It's actually a sign of potential dementia, like early dementia.

00:28:04.799 --> 00:28:07.519
<v SPEAKER_00>If your hand grip strength is 10% or more different.

00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:08.720
<v SPEAKER_00>Oh, I didn't know that.

00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:09.279
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah.

00:28:09.519 --> 00:28:16.079
<v SPEAKER_00>Now the other cool thing with grip strength is if your grip strength, if you're feeling like you're not recovering well, your HRV is low, check your grip strength.

00:28:16.160 --> 00:28:18.400
<v SPEAKER_00>It's kind of like what we used to do with checking resting heart rate.

00:28:18.720 --> 00:28:23.440
<v SPEAKER_00>If your grip strength's down, you didn't recover well, you kind of need a maybe a restorative yoga day.

00:28:24.160 --> 00:28:25.519
<v SPEAKER_00>So there you go.

00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:26.799
<v SPEAKER_00>So grip strength's great.

00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:29.519
<v SPEAKER_00>Um push-ups are an easy one.

00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:31.519
<v SPEAKER_00>I know there was this whole thing that uh Dr.

00:28:31.599 --> 00:28:36.880
<v SPEAKER_00>Vonda Wright had pushed out, I think, on Mel's Robins podcast, that you need to hit at least 11.

00:28:37.039 --> 00:28:38.240
<v SPEAKER_00>Depends on your age.

00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:40.160
<v SPEAKER_00>And also you've got to look at your form.

00:28:40.240 --> 00:28:42.400
<v SPEAKER_00>The form I see at the gym, it is all I can do.

00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:45.759
<v SPEAKER_00>I was go, they did not hire me, they didn't ask my opinion, so walk away.

00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:46.240
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, exactly.

00:28:46.400 --> 00:28:47.759
<v SPEAKER_00>I mean, I just saw one the other day.

00:28:47.839 --> 00:28:49.519
<v SPEAKER_00>I was at a gym and I'm like, It's hard.

00:28:49.680 --> 00:28:50.319
<v SPEAKER_00>What's this guy?

00:28:50.400 --> 00:28:52.240
<v SPEAKER_00>Uh oh, I well, I learned my lesson early on.

00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:56.000
<v SPEAKER_00>I got I got reprimanded at the gym in my 20s.

00:28:56.160 --> 00:29:02.079
<v SPEAKER_00>There's this guy who was doing something ridiculous, and he goes, I didn't hire you, and I didn't ask your opinion.

00:29:02.160 --> 00:29:03.359
<v SPEAKER_00>And I went, You're so right.

00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:04.720
<v SPEAKER_00>And I've never done it again.

00:29:04.960 --> 00:29:08.079
<v SPEAKER_00>So I will literally see people doing things I'm like, oh my goodness.

00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:08.319
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

00:29:08.559 --> 00:29:10.000
<v SPEAKER_01>But I say nothing.

00:29:10.880 --> 00:29:13.119
<v SPEAKER_01>I don't say anything, anything, but it's like, oh my God, I really like it.

00:29:13.279 --> 00:29:15.200
<v SPEAKER_00>This guy's like, what exactly is it you're doing?

00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:17.599
<v SPEAKER_00>Because it's he was doing a push-up, but he was so sunk.

00:29:17.680 --> 00:29:24.400
<v SPEAKER_00>So his shoulder blades were sunk together, his his whole lower back was arched down, it's like his pelvis was hitting the floor before his chest.

00:29:24.480 --> 00:29:28.799
<v SPEAKER_00>I'm like, all right, I'm just walking away from this disaster over here.

00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:31.039
<v SPEAKER_00>But you know, so form really matters there.

00:29:31.119 --> 00:29:32.079
<v SPEAKER_00>But that those are great ones.

00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:34.160
<v SPEAKER_01>But but you but age has to matter, right?

00:29:34.640 --> 00:29:34.720
<v SPEAKER_01>Right.

00:29:34.799 --> 00:29:37.599
<v SPEAKER_01>So you're age, you know, and you can still do 10.

00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:38.559
<v SPEAKER_01>That's awesome.

00:29:38.640 --> 00:29:41.119
<v SPEAKER_01>If you're 35 and can only do 10, I got a problem with that.

00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:41.680
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah.

00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:45.200
<v SPEAKER_00>So well, all the uh the charts have age and sex.

00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:47.519
<v SPEAKER_00>So you can just go through them to see.

00:29:47.759 --> 00:29:50.640
<v SPEAKER_00>So there's that, they also have a flex arm hang one.

00:29:50.799 --> 00:29:56.400
<v SPEAKER_00>There's also the farmers carry, uh, you should be able to carry at least 25% of your weight in each hand.

00:29:56.720 --> 00:29:57.039
<v SPEAKER_01>Oh, yeah.

00:29:57.279 --> 00:30:03.359
<v SPEAKER_01>The the hanging thing's interesting because when I was on the marine physical fitness team, we would hang.

00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:11.920
<v SPEAKER_01>Because pull-ups, to do pull-ups, really keeping yourself on the bar was you know part of the the whole thing of doing a lot of pull-ups.

00:30:12.079 --> 00:30:13.359
<v SPEAKER_01>But one arm hangs.

00:30:13.519 --> 00:30:16.799
<v SPEAKER_01>If you think you could do one arm hang for one minute, good luck.

00:30:17.359 --> 00:30:20.000
<v SPEAKER_00>Hey, what about standing?

00:30:20.160 --> 00:30:21.119
<v SPEAKER_00>So here's the other part.

00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:25.279
<v SPEAKER_00>So those are all great for strength and endurance.

00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:26.559
<v SPEAKER_00>And they're different, right?

00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:32.160
<v SPEAKER_00>I mean, when you're training, you can train for for muscle hypertrophy, for muscle strength, for muscle endurance, for muscle power.

00:30:32.240 --> 00:30:33.119
<v SPEAKER_00>They're different.

00:30:33.359 --> 00:30:35.279
<v SPEAKER_00>Now, there's a lot of crossover.

00:30:35.519 --> 00:30:40.799
<v SPEAKER_00>Um, but the other piece of this is all the mobility, flexibility, balance, stability.

00:30:41.359 --> 00:30:47.920
<v SPEAKER_00>And uh one of the craziest ones to do is the stand on one leg and crop close your eyes and you'll fall over.

00:30:48.319 --> 00:31:00.319
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, no, there's a I wish I remembered that I did a video on that on Instagram because it was again a way to predict dementia, yeah, um, Alzheimer's, because you know, people literally can't do it for five seconds.

00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:03.039
<v SPEAKER_01>Like they're you're it's coming.

00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:04.319
<v SPEAKER_00>You know, it's coming for you.

00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:06.000
<v SPEAKER_00>So here's how I do it.

00:31:06.319 --> 00:31:11.759
<v SPEAKER_00>So I have back doing the wrong sports in my teens and early 20s.

00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:15.599
<v SPEAKER_00>Like, why was a six-foot-tall woman doing point ballet and gymnastics?

00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:16.319
<v SPEAKER_00>Why was it?

00:31:16.480 --> 00:31:17.200
<v SPEAKER_01>You're only six foot.

00:31:17.279 --> 00:31:18.640
<v SPEAKER_01>You see, I guess it's the heels.

00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:20.079
<v SPEAKER_01>You seem like you're to me.

00:31:20.720 --> 00:31:25.279
<v SPEAKER_00>I it it's so silly that like they tried to get me on the basketball team and the volleyball team.

00:31:25.440 --> 00:31:26.000
<v SPEAKER_00>Oh no.

00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:26.480
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah.

00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:29.440
<v SPEAKER_00>No, I want to do this over here.

00:31:29.759 --> 00:31:38.480
<v SPEAKER_00>So I did a lot of joint damage, um, like old broken foot, blown out knee, hip, I mean, just messy, messy stuff.

00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:42.160
<v SPEAKER_00>But because of that, I've been training hard to avoid things.

00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:45.599
<v SPEAKER_00>But I have to really work on like full squats.

00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:48.640
<v SPEAKER_00>I can only do using a TRX assist to get all the way down.

00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:53.519
<v SPEAKER_00>But what I do is I stand on a power plate, and now I do balance work on a power plate.

00:31:54.160 --> 00:31:54.640
<v SPEAKER_00>It vibrates.

00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:55.680
<v SPEAKER_00>It vibrates.

00:31:56.000 --> 00:32:01.039
<v SPEAKER_00>And and the cool thing with power plate is it vibrates in a way that your nervous system cannot figure out what's going on.

00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:03.359
<v SPEAKER_00>So it's going up, down, side, side.

00:32:03.440 --> 00:32:07.359
<v SPEAKER_00>So it's going in all these different planes, and your nervous system now has to really engage.

00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:10.960
<v SPEAKER_00>Because a lot of what you do in resistance training is getting your nerves and muscles to communicate.

00:32:11.039 --> 00:32:12.480
<v SPEAKER_00>So you got a lot of stuff going on.

00:32:12.640 --> 00:32:20.000
<v SPEAKER_00>And then I have an old broken foot that, like, you know, so I'm really working balance on that foot because it doesn't want to balance at all.

00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:21.920
<v SPEAKER_00>It really loves high shoes, too.

00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:23.680
<v SPEAKER_00>It's like, why are you doing this to me?

00:32:23.920 --> 00:32:25.920
<v SPEAKER_00>But you're a woman, so we get it.

00:32:26.240 --> 00:32:27.119
<v SPEAKER_00>Of course, yes.

00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:31.200
<v SPEAKER_00>So, you know, balance is a big one, and you can do great stuff to challenge it.

00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:33.839
<v SPEAKER_00>But I think this is where something like yoga fits in.

00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:45.279
<v SPEAKER_00>I think that uh doing yoga once or twice a week, Pilates, those types of things are great for the mobility, stability, the stuff that most of us, once we really get into weight training, we will never go do that.

00:32:45.519 --> 00:32:46.160
<v SPEAKER_00>Right, I know.

00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:46.960
<v SPEAKER_00>That's the thing.

00:32:47.039 --> 00:32:47.759
<v SPEAKER_01>I hate yoga.

00:32:47.839 --> 00:32:52.319
<v SPEAKER_01>I hate detail weights for me, is just like I love weights.

00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:54.559
<v SPEAKER_00>I do it every day, throw a bunch of heavy stuff around.

00:32:54.640 --> 00:32:57.119
<v SPEAKER_00>It's so it just feels so good.

00:32:57.279 --> 00:33:02.799
<v SPEAKER_00>And here's what I've noticed people who are really good at yoga love yoga, and they're like gumbo, gumby dolls, they're bendies.

00:33:03.039 --> 00:33:07.599
<v SPEAKER_00>The people who love resistance training don't like yoga, and the people who love yoga don't like resistance training.

00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:09.119
<v SPEAKER_00>They both need to cross-track.

00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:12.960
<v SPEAKER_00>You know, like I look at these yoga girls, I'm like, you need to get in the gym right now.

00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:16.799
<v SPEAKER_00>Like you can see how hyper flexible they are, which is bad.

00:33:16.960 --> 00:33:26.319
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, and then you know, those of us in the gym, it forces us to get into one of the challenges I see with resistance training is we don't tend to train in all three planes.

00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:30.880
<v SPEAKER_00>Like a lot of resistance training movement is is just front and back.

00:33:31.039 --> 00:33:33.839
<v SPEAKER_00>There's no rotation, there's no side to side.

00:33:34.079 --> 00:33:38.400
<v SPEAKER_00>And so yoga puts you into the weirdest, wackiest positions.

00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:40.240
<v SPEAKER_00>Like, I was like, who made this up?

00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:44.640
<v SPEAKER_00>And then called these things, these flying crows and pigeons and things.

00:33:44.880 --> 00:33:46.079
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, these awful things.

00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:46.799
<v SPEAKER_00>No, I hate it.

00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:47.359
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, me too.

00:33:47.599 --> 00:33:48.480
<v SPEAKER_00>I literally count the minutes.

00:33:48.640 --> 00:33:50.640
<v SPEAKER_00>I go, okay, I'm 10 minutes in, I'm one six.

00:33:50.880 --> 00:33:52.480
<v SPEAKER_00>I have a whole mind game all the way through.

00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:55.839
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, I I'm I'm exactly like going to the gym and lifting weights.

00:33:56.079 --> 00:33:56.400
<v SPEAKER_01>Easy.

00:33:57.039 --> 00:33:57.440
<v SPEAKER_01>Time flies.

00:33:57.599 --> 00:33:57.920
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, yeah.

00:33:58.000 --> 00:33:58.480
<v SPEAKER_01>Time flies.

00:33:58.559 --> 00:33:58.720
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:00.720
<v SPEAKER_01>Put me in a yoga class.

00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:02.079
<v SPEAKER_01>Oh, oh no.

00:34:02.240 --> 00:34:03.440
<v SPEAKER_01>I mean, this is just pain.

00:34:03.519 --> 00:34:04.960
<v SPEAKER_01>I I don't even like that kind of pain.

00:34:05.119 --> 00:34:08.960
<v SPEAKER_01>Like I like lifting weights and feeling that burn, but that stretching, but no, no.

00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:09.280
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah.

00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:11.199
<v SPEAKER_00>But boy, it does it makes everything better.

00:34:11.519 --> 00:34:11.840
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:12.400
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

00:34:12.559 --> 00:34:16.800
<v SPEAKER_01>I I would argue that I'd probably I I'm on the side that needs a little bit of that.

00:34:17.119 --> 00:34:17.199
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:18.079
<v SPEAKER_01>Well, I think we all do.

00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:25.840
<v SPEAKER_00>I think most of us, like if I was going to put the hierarchy of needs, again, just the first thing is moving and taking every opportunity you can to move.

00:34:25.920 --> 00:34:31.199
<v SPEAKER_00>It stand instead of sit, fidget instead of stay still, like anything that you can do to be moving, move.

00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:32.559
<v SPEAKER_00>Whatever you can possibly do.

00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:35.119
<v SPEAKER_00>Then you add in the resistance training.

00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:43.440
<v SPEAKER_00>And there's a lot of things you can do to progress in the resistance training, like adding in power moves and some jumping and instability, et cetera.

00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:48.719
<v SPEAKER_00>But then the next thing after that, I actually like to add in some HIT training next, you know.

00:34:48.800 --> 00:34:53.440
<v SPEAKER_00>Um high intensity interval training, which if you're short on time.

00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:59.280
<v SPEAKER_00>And the funny thing is, last year at Eudaimonia, I they asked me to teach a fitness class, and I go, This is kind of interesting.

00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:01.440
<v SPEAKER_00>I haven't taught a fitness class for 25 years.

00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:02.480
<v SPEAKER_00>Okay.

00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:07.039
<v SPEAKER_00>And then I thought, well, I don't want to just teach a fitness class because who cares?

00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:08.079
<v SPEAKER_00>Like it didn't do anything.

00:35:08.159 --> 00:35:11.599
<v SPEAKER_00>I'm gonna teach them how to do exercise snacks that they can then take home.

00:35:11.840 --> 00:35:14.159
<v SPEAKER_00>And I created this thing called Ten Minutes to Win It.

00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:19.679
<v SPEAKER_00>And I created these based on that Vilpa research, things that they could do in two to four minutes.

00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:26.400
<v SPEAKER_00>And so I teach them a segment and then we would take a break, and then I taught them, and I created five different ones of these.

00:35:26.559 --> 00:35:29.199
<v SPEAKER_00>And the ones that were shorter, we went through twice.

00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:30.320
<v SPEAKER_00>I killed them.

00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:35.519
<v SPEAKER_00>I like I I k I I was like, oh, this was really, really, really hard.

00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:41.679
<v SPEAKER_00>But I mean, like, you know, jumps and up downs and you know, mountain climb, like all sorts of stuff that was.

00:35:42.159 --> 00:35:43.679
<v SPEAKER_01>All that stuff is really high intense.

00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:47.599
<v SPEAKER_01>You're moving upper body, lower body, your heart rate goes off the chain, you can't breathe.

00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:48.800
<v SPEAKER_01>But that's the how you do HIIT.

00:35:49.119 --> 00:35:50.719
<v SPEAKER_01>People are always like, well, how intense I go?

00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:53.039
<v SPEAKER_01>Well, if you could talk, you didn't go hard enough.

00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:54.480
<v SPEAKER_00>Oh, I had a friend the other day.

00:35:54.639 --> 00:35:56.400
<v SPEAKER_00>I go, so so you need to make sure you're doing HIT.

00:35:56.559 --> 00:35:57.440
<v SPEAKER_00>He goes, Oh, I do it every day.

00:35:57.519 --> 00:35:58.639
<v SPEAKER_00>I go, You're not doing HIT.

00:35:59.119 --> 00:36:00.320
<v SPEAKER_00>You can't do HIT every day.

00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:02.239
<v SPEAKER_00>If you're doing HIT correctly, that's right.

00:36:02.320 --> 00:36:02.559
<v SPEAKER_00>Exactly.

00:36:03.360 --> 00:36:04.239
<v SPEAKER_00>Maybe three times a week.

00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:04.480
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah.

00:36:04.719 --> 00:36:09.119
<v SPEAKER_00>And the reality is in looking at what's important, two days a week is all you need.

00:36:09.199 --> 00:36:09.360
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah.

00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:10.639
<v SPEAKER_00>You don't need more than that.

00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:14.639
<v SPEAKER_00>I'd rather you take that extra day and do that yoga that we hate so much.

00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:15.199
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah.

00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:22.880
<v SPEAKER_00>You know, because that stability, mobility, working in different planes that are weird that you would never intentionally put yourself into.

00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:23.440
<v SPEAKER_00>You know?

00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:24.239
<v SPEAKER_01>Absolutely.

00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:26.320
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, the high intensity, you're you're right.

00:36:26.400 --> 00:36:30.159
<v SPEAKER_01>I mean, in the beginning you could do it three days a week because people tend not to Well, they're not doing it.

00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:30.639
<v SPEAKER_01>Exactly.

00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:31.840
<v SPEAKER_01>They're not they're not doing it.

00:36:32.159 --> 00:36:46.880
<v SPEAKER_00>It really has to feel like that when you were in, you know, fourth grade and you were chasing someone or they were chasing you, and you felt like you were gonna throw up and you had to lean over and go, your thighs were that's that's the way it's supposed to feel.

00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:47.599
<v SPEAKER_00>Absolutely.

00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:49.679
<v SPEAKER_00>You know, and there's different protocols.

00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:54.320
<v SPEAKER_00>You can do the protocol that does that where it's it's the wing gate 30-second all out.

00:36:54.400 --> 00:36:59.360
<v SPEAKER_00>I'm gonna puke somewhere in the 20 to 30 seconds and then recover for like three minutes or so.

00:36:59.679 --> 00:37:02.239
<v SPEAKER_00>I like to do a one-minute on, one minute off.

00:37:02.880 --> 00:37:13.920
<v SPEAKER_01>So let's explain the principle because high intensity training has been shown and proven to burn more fat than staying in the fat-burning zone for an hour.

00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:32.239
<v SPEAKER_01>So you could get on the treadmill or the bike and stay there for an hour, an hour and a half, burning fat, um, or you could do this that takes probably seven, eight minutes and do three sets to what we're talking about, like literally a minute of all-out, rest for three minutes or a minute, all out again, all out again.

00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:34.000
<v SPEAKER_00>Okay, but there's a burn more fat.

00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:35.840
<v SPEAKER_00>There's a couple things that we have to talk about here.

00:37:36.079 --> 00:37:39.440
<v SPEAKER_00>First of all, all fats not created equal.

00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:44.239
<v SPEAKER_00>What's exciting about HIIT training is that it's burning more visceral adipose tissue.

00:37:44.559 --> 00:37:45.440
<v SPEAKER_01>That's the dangerous stuff.

00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:46.559
<v SPEAKER_00>That's the stuff.

00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:49.519
<v SPEAKER_00>And here's so this is really fascinating.

00:37:49.760 --> 00:37:56.320
<v SPEAKER_00>Okay, so remind me we're going back to fat and fat burning during exercise, because I think it's just misunderstood.

00:37:57.599 --> 00:37:59.440
<v SPEAKER_00>I think Ben Bickman's phenomenal.

00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:01.679
<v SPEAKER_00>Have you ever listened to any of his Ben Bickman lectures?

00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:04.079
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, no, not much, but a little bit of a big thing.

00:38:04.239 --> 00:38:10.559
<v SPEAKER_00>Ben Bickman just did a lot of Rhonda Patrick that and in it he was talking about why why visceral fat's really problematic.

00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:15.519
<v SPEAKER_00>Because you've always heard, oh, it's the fat that's the most, you know, dangerous for your heart.

00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:16.880
<v SPEAKER_00>And it was like, but why?

00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:18.880
<v SPEAKER_00>Here's why.

00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:22.400
<v SPEAKER_00>So we have fat cell hypertrophy and hyperplasia.

00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:25.920
<v SPEAKER_00>We used to believe that there were only three times in life that you could get more fat cells.

00:38:26.000 --> 00:38:26.320
<v SPEAKER_00>Remember that?

00:38:26.480 --> 00:38:27.599
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, I remember that.

00:38:28.079 --> 00:38:29.199
<v SPEAKER_00>Used to, not true.

00:38:29.920 --> 00:38:36.719
<v SPEAKER_00>Actually, the people who are more over fat and healthier are people who have more fat cells and they're not as full.

00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:41.280
<v SPEAKER_00>When people have overfilled fat cells, that's when it becomes problematic.

00:38:41.360 --> 00:38:59.440
<v SPEAKER_00>And visceral adipose tissue, because it's located in your internal organs and there's not much space, it becomes overfull and spills, and that's what's creating the problem is that they can't create more fat cells, they just get fuller until they overspill and create all this leakage and it's problematic.

00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:09.440
<v SPEAKER_00>So the cool thing with with high-intensity nearball training is that it it along with cold immersion therapy, tends to target this visceral adipose tissue.

00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:12.880
<v SPEAKER_00>Here's the reality, and this has driven me crazy for years.

00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:19.199
<v SPEAKER_00>And it started in graduate school when we were literally all the research studies in graduate school were being done on cardio.

00:39:19.360 --> 00:39:24.960
<v SPEAKER_00>And we were told back then that if you couldn't work out for at least 30 minutes in your zone, your heart rate zone, don't do it.

00:39:25.199 --> 00:39:29.280
<v SPEAKER_00>Because you had to get spend at least 30 minutes to be able to start burning fat, which is stupid.

00:39:29.519 --> 00:39:32.159
<v SPEAKER_00>Like the biggest fat burning is happening right now while we're sitting on the city.

00:39:32.320 --> 00:39:36.480
<v SPEAKER_01>But by the way, most people still believe this though, because things that go that they don't die.

00:39:36.719 --> 00:39:41.280
<v SPEAKER_01>Like, you know, like most people would say, yeah, you want to stay in your heart burning zone, that's where you burn the most fat.

00:39:41.840 --> 00:39:48.639
<v SPEAKER_00>I think there is an orange theory based on this whole like this whole heart rate zone thing and being in the right zone to burn fat.

00:39:48.960 --> 00:39:54.960
<v SPEAKER_00>If you want to burn the highest percentage calories from fat, do nothing and sit on the couch.

00:39:56.159 --> 00:39:57.679
<v SPEAKER_00>And be in a caloric deficit.

00:39:57.760 --> 00:39:59.760
<v SPEAKER_00>That's how you will burn the most calories from fat.

00:39:59.920 --> 00:40:15.519
<v SPEAKER_00>If you want to burn or the most percentage, if you want to burn the most calories from fat, create a caloric deficit from both exercise, especially resistance exercise, where any carbohydrates are going to go into your muscles, and you'll be really insulin sensitive.

00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:19.679
<v SPEAKER_00>So your body now is low insulin, higher metabolic rate, easier to burn fat.

00:40:20.159 --> 00:40:24.559
<v SPEAKER_00>And then you just move as much as possible so that you've got a bigger caloric burn.

00:40:24.719 --> 00:40:25.679
<v SPEAKER_00>That would be the most sense.

00:40:25.840 --> 00:40:32.800
<v SPEAKER_00>Like what's never made sense to me is this whole thing of like, let's do this lower intensity, slow, steady rate to burn more fat.

00:40:32.960 --> 00:40:41.119
<v SPEAKER_00>I was like, but what if I go in there and I push really hard and I create a big auction debt and I do a lot of work that my body has to work harder to recover from afterwards.

00:40:41.199 --> 00:40:43.840
<v SPEAKER_00>And I've now, you know, used up a lot of my glycogen.

00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:45.280
<v SPEAKER_00>So now carbs are going in there.

00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:46.639
<v SPEAKER_00>I'm super insulin sensitive.

00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:50.719
<v SPEAKER_00>Your body is using more fat for fuel because now I'm lower intensity.

00:40:50.960 --> 00:40:51.679
<v SPEAKER_00>That makes more sense.

00:40:52.000 --> 00:41:00.079
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, because I mean basically the principle is when you're doing that high intensity, I mean, your body just throws glucose out in because it needs it, it's gonna die.

00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:12.079
<v SPEAKER_01>So it throws it out of the muscle, but then it spends the next 36 hours on average burning fat and replacing that stored sugar to save your life again if you have to fight or flight.

00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:19.199
<v SPEAKER_01>So I always say to people, well, would you rather burn fat for the hour on the treadmill, or would you rather burn fat sitting on your couch at home for 36 hours?

00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:25.039
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, you want to be a better fat burner all the time, and that happens through resistance training and HIT training.

00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:34.559
<v SPEAKER_00>And in fact, I was wearing a CGM, and my whole reason for wearing the CGM was to see how high I could get my blood sugar to go during HIT and resistance training.

00:41:35.039 --> 00:41:36.400
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, because that means you dumped it out.

00:41:36.639 --> 00:41:36.719
<v SPEAKER_00>Right.

00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:38.079
<v SPEAKER_00>I'm like, oh let's let's see.

00:41:38.239 --> 00:41:39.440
<v SPEAKER_00>Let's see where we can get it.

00:41:39.599 --> 00:41:48.159
<v SPEAKER_00>This whole idea of keeping it slow, but it it doesn't make sense when you really look at the the whole physiology of it.

00:41:48.400 --> 00:41:59.360
<v SPEAKER_00>And this is where when you do this beautiful combination of resistance training and hit, and then lots of neat and lots of movement, that's when that all that fat burning is happening because you're working at a lower level.

00:41:59.599 --> 00:42:03.760
<v SPEAKER_00>And and here's the reality we're always we're always flexing.

00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:06.400
<v SPEAKER_00>So a healthy body is metabolically flexible.

00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:09.599
<v SPEAKER_00>It's burning fat, it's burning carbs, burning ketones.

00:42:10.079 --> 00:42:14.559
<v SPEAKER_00>And you know, if in intense exercise, it's burning majorly carbs.

00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:17.840
<v SPEAKER_00>Most of the rest of the time it should be burning mostly fat.

00:42:18.159 --> 00:42:22.159
<v SPEAKER_00>And if you have a deficit, it's burning your stored body fat.

00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:29.039
<v SPEAKER_00>If you're eating a load of fat because someone told you you could eat a load of fat and burn more fat, yes, you are, but you're burning the fat you're eating.

00:42:29.440 --> 00:42:30.880
<v SPEAKER_00>You know, it's like we kind of miss it.

00:42:31.199 --> 00:42:35.599
<v SPEAKER_01>Well, and that was like the big thing with keto, is people are like, Well, I'm gaining weight.

00:42:35.679 --> 00:42:38.239
<v SPEAKER_01>It's like you know, it's because you're eating fat all day.

00:42:39.360 --> 00:42:40.960
<v SPEAKER_00>You just put butter on your steak.

00:42:41.280 --> 00:42:44.639
<v SPEAKER_01>And I'm not one to say fat creates fat, but it's like, but you're gonna burn one or the other.

00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:48.880
<v SPEAKER_01>I would rather burn my fat on my body than burn all this fat because you're eating all day.

00:42:49.119 --> 00:42:50.800
<v SPEAKER_01>You know, so yeah, you don't want to do that.

00:42:51.039 --> 00:42:53.679
<v SPEAKER_01>So let's put together the perfect program for them, right?

00:42:53.760 --> 00:43:07.119
<v SPEAKER_01>We we talked about because we talked about high-intensity interval training, we talked about resistive, we talked about just some of these exercises to do, the neat, put together the perfect program for someone right now that's not working out.

00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:10.239
<v SPEAKER_01>And like literally they're gonna, okay, I'm gonna do this, Papa.

00:43:10.559 --> 00:43:12.000
<v SPEAKER_01>You know, JJ, I'm doing it.

00:43:12.079 --> 00:43:12.719
<v SPEAKER_01>What do I do?

00:43:12.800 --> 00:43:13.840
<v SPEAKER_01>Let's put together the program.

00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:14.400
<v SPEAKER_00>All right.

00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:17.679
<v SPEAKER_00>So here's the first thing that has to happen before anything else.

00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:24.239
<v SPEAKER_00>You have to do some kind of body composition analysis so that you don't become crazy.

00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:28.719
<v SPEAKER_00>And I say this because women, we are crazy.

00:43:28.880 --> 00:43:34.800
<v SPEAKER_00>And if we start doing this and we see our clothing size go down, but our weight go up, we think it's not working.

00:43:35.199 --> 00:43:38.239
<v SPEAKER_01>She's so smart because see, I I didn't even think of that, but that's what happens.

00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:42.960
<v SPEAKER_00>You are a sane guy who wouldn't respond this way, but we do.

00:43:43.119 --> 00:43:50.400
<v SPEAKER_00>We have spent our whole lives basing our our success on what the number on the scale says.

00:43:50.559 --> 00:43:53.679
<v SPEAKER_00>And it's it's not your weight, it's what your weight's made up of.

00:43:53.760 --> 00:43:56.639
<v SPEAKER_00>We have got to stop using a traditional scale.

00:43:56.719 --> 00:43:58.559
<v SPEAKER_00>It doesn't give you any of the right information.

00:43:58.639 --> 00:44:02.000
<v SPEAKER_00>So whether it is going to give Get a DEXA, which I think is really important.

00:44:02.320 --> 00:44:06.719
<v SPEAKER_00>Um, not the best way to do bone density testing, but for overall body testing.

00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:08.239
<v SPEAKER_01>Where can someone get a DEXA scan?

00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:09.119
<v SPEAKER_00>Pretty much anywhere.

00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:15.840
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, do an in-body, uh professional in-body, and then at home, you want to have a biomepedance scale at home.

00:44:16.000 --> 00:44:18.079
<v SPEAKER_00>And now in body's got some great home units.

00:44:18.159 --> 00:44:26.400
<v SPEAKER_00>And what's cool about you can you get an a biomepedance scale and you get a Bluetooth tape measure.

00:44:26.719 --> 00:44:30.079
<v SPEAKER_00>Renfo, R-E-N-P-H O makes a Bluetooth tape measure.

00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:37.840
<v SPEAKER_00>Here's what you do you get on that scale every day under the same conditions, which means get up, go to the bathroom, get on the scale.

00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:40.880
<v SPEAKER_00>You do not focus on the scale and get all weird about the scale.

00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:42.960
<v SPEAKER_00>You let the numbers and the scale go to your phone.

00:44:44.079 --> 00:44:45.119
<v SPEAKER_00>You don't even have to look.

00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:47.039
<v SPEAKER_00>You can just let the numbers on the scale go to the phone.

00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:49.760
<v SPEAKER_00>Once a week, you also do your waist and your hip measurement.

00:44:50.639 --> 00:44:53.119
<v SPEAKER_00>That's when you take the average to see what's happening.

00:44:53.199 --> 00:44:58.400
<v SPEAKER_00>Because if we look at the numbers every single day, they go like they make no sense whatsoever.

00:44:58.719 --> 00:45:03.840
<v SPEAKER_00>You're you're overhydrated, you're dehydrated, you're constipated, like it makes no sense whatsoever.

00:45:04.079 --> 00:45:09.039
<v SPEAKER_00>You know, and the other piece is when we're looking at bioimpedance, we're looking at your total body water.

00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:11.679
<v SPEAKER_00>This is a proxy for your fat-free mass.

00:45:11.920 --> 00:45:15.039
<v SPEAKER_00>When you have more muscle, it's the biggest thing that we can shift, right?

00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:16.079
<v SPEAKER_00>Is muscle mass.

00:45:16.400 --> 00:45:19.840
<v SPEAKER_00>Muscle has carbohydrates and water that's store in it.

00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:22.800
<v SPEAKER_00>And so more muscle, more water.

00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:27.679
<v SPEAKER_00>So it's how we can determine your total body water is how we determine your fat-free mass.

00:45:27.760 --> 00:45:31.760
<v SPEAKER_00>And your fat-free mass is how we're going to predict your muscle mass because that's going to be the thing changing.

00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:34.000
<v SPEAKER_00>You're not going to step on and go, Oh, I put on a pound of bone.

00:45:34.159 --> 00:45:35.199
<v SPEAKER_00>Like that's not happening.

00:45:35.519 --> 00:45:36.639
<v SPEAKER_00>So that's the first thing.

00:45:36.719 --> 00:45:38.400
<v SPEAKER_00>And then we do a waist and a hip.

00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:52.400
<v SPEAKER_00>So we can do a waist to height, which your waist should be half your half the size of your um height in inches, or waist to hip, which should be 0.8 or less, 0.7 is better, waist to hip, men one or less.

00:45:52.880 --> 00:46:00.239
<v SPEAKER_00>And we we do this because if you're losing weight, but you're not losing your waist, you are making yourself worse, not better.

00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:03.440
<v SPEAKER_00>If you're losing weight, and I saw this, I was on Dr.

00:46:03.599 --> 00:46:13.920
<v SPEAKER_00>Phil for years, as you know, and we had this a big challenge where one it was two groups, and the group at the one got to go to Canyon Ranch, all expenses paid.

00:46:14.480 --> 00:46:22.480
<v SPEAKER_00>And what people don't know about this, it was like this big drama thing because literally the group that won won by one half pound total.

00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:23.519
<v SPEAKER_00>And you know what happened?

00:46:24.159 --> 00:46:26.480
<v SPEAKER_00>Now, six people, six people, one half pound.

00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:31.280
<v SPEAKER_00>What happened was the day before the weigh-in.

00:46:31.599 --> 00:46:36.639
<v SPEAKER_00>Now I could tell because I was using a bioimpedance machine, so I knew exactly what they'd done, but no one said they couldn't do it.

00:46:36.719 --> 00:46:39.119
<v SPEAKER_00>So I was like, they were strategic.

00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:41.599
<v SPEAKER_00>Day before, no one ate, no one drank.

00:46:41.760 --> 00:46:44.559
<v SPEAKER_00>They were basically on the treadmills at the hotel all day long.

00:46:44.719 --> 00:46:45.679
<v SPEAKER_00>You already know what's going on.

00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:54.400
<v SPEAKER_00>Then they went into their hotel rooms, they turned their showers on full heat, they put towels under their bathroom doors, and they sat in there and steamed themselves out.

00:46:54.480 --> 00:46:58.960
<v SPEAKER_00>They came in so dehydrated the next day, their total body water plummeted, right?

00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:00.239
<v SPEAKER_00>But they won.

00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:03.280
<v SPEAKER_00>They were just like, you know, wrestlers making weight.

00:47:03.440 --> 00:47:04.320
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, exactly.

00:47:04.880 --> 00:47:08.960
<v SPEAKER_00>You know, so I mean, if you want to lose a lot of weight, don't exercise.

00:47:09.280 --> 00:47:09.679
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, right.

00:47:09.840 --> 00:47:10.480
<v SPEAKER_00>You know, don't exercise.

00:47:10.639 --> 00:47:11.679
<v SPEAKER_00>Of course, you're gonna gain weight.

00:47:11.840 --> 00:47:20.960
<v SPEAKER_00>You know, biggest thing you could do is just like drop your carbs altogether because you'll drop a lot of water, you know, have a little bit, you know, eat protein, a little bit of fat, and sit on the couch.

00:47:21.119 --> 00:47:21.679
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, right.

00:47:21.920 --> 00:47:22.639
<v SPEAKER_00>Away we go.

00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:25.920
<v SPEAKER_01>And if you put on muscle, muscle weighs more than fat.

00:47:26.159 --> 00:47:27.280
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, I mean, gosh.

00:47:27.440 --> 00:47:31.280
<v SPEAKER_00>So, anyhow, that's why you've got to make sure that you are monitoring this.

00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:40.239
<v SPEAKER_00>Because I literally just had a gal who um she weighed, she was like, I, you know, I have been stuck at like 134 and a half pounds for a year.

00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:41.599
<v SPEAKER_00>And I'm like, wow, that's amazing.

00:47:41.679 --> 00:47:42.480
<v SPEAKER_00>You maintain that.

00:47:43.119 --> 00:47:47.840
<v SPEAKER_00>And she goes, and then I did what you said, and I started lifting weights and eating more protein.

00:47:48.000 --> 00:47:50.960
<v SPEAKER_00>She goes, I went down to 124.

00:47:51.280 --> 00:47:52.320
<v SPEAKER_00>And that was all I did.

00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:56.960
<v SPEAKER_00>She goes, you know, eating, eating more protein, which then displaced some other stuff, lifting weights.

00:47:57.119 --> 00:47:59.039
<v SPEAKER_00>Now she's totally focused on how heavy can she lift.

00:47:59.119 --> 00:48:02.320
<v SPEAKER_00>So now she's become a little bit obsessed with my deadlifts and my squats and everything else.

00:48:02.480 --> 00:48:04.719
<v SPEAKER_00>And she goes, and my weight went up to 128.

00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:07.599
<v SPEAKER_00>And she goes, and the old me would have freaked out.

00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:13.840
<v SPEAKER_00>And the new me saw that I just dropped more body fat because actually I put on some muscle and dropped some fat.

00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:15.519
<v SPEAKER_00>It's called recomping.

00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:19.039
<v SPEAKER_00>But if you are not looking at the scale, you would not know it.

00:48:19.360 --> 00:48:19.679
<v SPEAKER_01>Exactly.

00:48:19.760 --> 00:48:22.639
<v SPEAKER_01>And you just, you know, called out most people right there.

00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:25.199
<v SPEAKER_01>So all right, we're setting up the how we've been trained.

00:48:25.519 --> 00:48:26.800
<v SPEAKER_01>We have been trained to look at the scale.

00:48:28.400 --> 00:48:31.519
<v SPEAKER_01>Even though they heard these things, it's different.

00:48:31.679 --> 00:48:34.880
<v SPEAKER_01>It says this is what they're told and this is what they're looking at.

00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:36.239
<v SPEAKER_01>Okay, so we nip that in the budget.

00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:37.119
<v SPEAKER_01>Yes, so we nip that.

00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:38.320
<v SPEAKER_01>Perfect the perfect.

00:48:38.960 --> 00:48:39.519
<v SPEAKER_01>Okay, here we go.

00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:40.880
<v SPEAKER_00>So you're doing that now.

00:48:40.960 --> 00:48:42.320
<v SPEAKER_00>So that's part of the perfect program.

00:48:42.400 --> 00:48:45.199
<v SPEAKER_00>Is every day you're weighing in once a week, you're looking at the average.

00:48:45.440 --> 00:48:47.280
<v SPEAKER_00>Then you get that movement up.

00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:49.679
<v SPEAKER_00>So you just go 8,000 steps a day.

00:48:49.760 --> 00:48:52.079
<v SPEAKER_00>It may take you a month to get to 8,000 steps a day.

00:48:52.320 --> 00:48:52.880
<v SPEAKER_00>It doesn't matter.

00:48:53.440 --> 00:48:57.679
<v SPEAKER_01>Give us give me some time, like how people can go out in their neighborhood and walk.

00:48:58.159 --> 00:48:59.760
<v SPEAKER_01>They could, but give us some time how much.

00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:04.079
<v SPEAKER_01>I mean, not that they need to get 8,000 in that moment because you're walking through your day.

00:49:04.159 --> 00:49:07.280
<v SPEAKER_01>But what what's a, you know, to hit that goal, what does that look like?

00:49:07.599 --> 00:49:12.880
<v SPEAKER_00>And honestly, you are way better off doing it throughout the day than doing it all at once.

00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:13.760
<v SPEAKER_01>Aaron Powell, it makes sense.

00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:16.559
<v SPEAKER_00>So way better for you just to be moving throughout the day.

00:49:16.639 --> 00:49:20.239
<v SPEAKER_00>Let's say that let's say even if you woke up in the morning and said, okay, I'm gonna go out for a 10-minute walk.

00:49:20.480 --> 00:49:20.639
<v SPEAKER_01>Okay.

00:49:20.960 --> 00:49:24.800
<v SPEAKER_00>I mean, and then you went out for a 10-minute walk at lunch, you had a walking treadmill.

00:49:25.280 --> 00:49:27.280
<v SPEAKER_01>Then walking after your meals is big time.

00:49:27.519 --> 00:49:29.599
<v SPEAKER_01>Even if it's just like the air.

00:49:31.119 --> 00:49:33.920
<v SPEAKER_00>Let's say maybe you have a walking treadmill.

00:49:34.079 --> 00:49:37.280
<v SPEAKER_00>Maybe you got a little lightweighted vest of five or ten pounds.

00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:39.840
<v SPEAKER_00>You put that on and you did some of that during your calls.

00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:42.559
<v SPEAKER_00>So you're just looking at what do you need to do for me?

00:49:42.639 --> 00:49:54.239
<v SPEAKER_00>I live in a house where my office is upstairs, my everything else is downstairs, and I just go up and down those stairs throughout the day, and I'm easily at 10,000 steps just because of how much I move around and I walk my dog.

00:49:54.719 --> 00:49:56.960
<v SPEAKER_00>So, you know, you just look at what is it on the side.

00:49:57.199 --> 00:49:58.159
<v SPEAKER_00>It doesn't take much.

00:49:58.400 --> 00:49:59.920
<v SPEAKER_00>No, that does not take much.

00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:01.920
<v SPEAKER_00>Then you add in that resistance training.

00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:11.360
<v SPEAKER_00>You start that two days a week, those five exercises, you're doing the squat, the deadlift, the push, the overhead press, and some kind of a pull like a row.

00:50:11.599 --> 00:50:14.079
<v SPEAKER_00>All can be done at home by all can be done at home.

00:50:14.400 --> 00:50:18.960
<v SPEAKER_00>Easy peasy TRX has a great machine that you can do a chest press, a squat.

00:50:19.360 --> 00:50:21.119
<v SPEAKER_00>TRX is really TRX is amazing.

00:50:21.519 --> 00:50:23.519
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, I I I use it all the time.

00:50:23.840 --> 00:50:35.119
<v SPEAKER_00>So I am creating for the big book a TRX workout routine on their app that people will be able to do because like I don't know why everybody during the pandemic wasn't just blowing up with TRX.

00:50:35.199 --> 00:50:36.719
<v SPEAKER_00>And now they have some really cool bands.

00:50:36.800 --> 00:50:38.960
<v SPEAKER_00>I've always hated bands, but these are different.

00:50:39.280 --> 00:50:43.360
<v SPEAKER_00>So then you do that, then you're going to add in two days a week of HIT.

00:50:43.679 --> 00:50:45.039
<v SPEAKER_00>So and again, that's the high intensity.

00:50:45.360 --> 00:50:46.079
<v SPEAKER_00>And when do you do this?

00:50:46.239 --> 00:50:53.360
<v SPEAKER_00>First get the I don't care if it took you a month to do the steps, then add in the resistance training, then add in two days of HIT.

00:50:53.840 --> 00:51:04.239
<v SPEAKER_00>And HIT could be as simple as like going out for a walk and then, you know, doing a little jog sprint for a minute and walking for a minute and jog sprint for a minute.

00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:08.960
<v SPEAKER_00>But you're doing this because when you do that super hard stuff, you raise lactate.

00:51:09.039 --> 00:51:24.159
<v SPEAKER_00>And when you raise lactate, lactate then is going to trigger something called P BDNF, which they always call the miracle growth for the brain, but it helps your brain, it helps your heart make more mitochondria, it helps your brain with neuror regeneration, especially in the hippocampus.

00:51:24.239 --> 00:51:27.440
<v SPEAKER_00>You actually make new neurons, so it's really good for your heart and brain.

00:51:28.079 --> 00:51:33.119
<v SPEAKER_00>So um, and it creates some oxygen debt that you have to pay back later and burns visceral fat.

00:51:33.360 --> 00:51:38.239
<v SPEAKER_00>So you do that, and then uh we can go, we can move up from there.

00:51:38.320 --> 00:51:40.239
<v SPEAKER_00>The next thing is to add that yoga class in.

00:51:40.559 --> 00:51:43.119
<v SPEAKER_00>So I've got two days of resistance, I've got two days of hit.

00:51:43.440 --> 00:51:49.119
<v SPEAKER_00>We're doing that foundational walking, we add in that yoga class, and then I'll start to take up that walking.

00:51:49.199 --> 00:51:50.800
<v SPEAKER_00>Let's put on that wrecking vest.

00:51:51.039 --> 00:52:00.880
<v SPEAKER_00>I got, by the way, like I I got called a grifter on Instagram for for promoting weighted vests.

00:52:01.199 --> 00:52:05.679
<v SPEAKER_01>Wait, I was like I was like what is a what is grifter?

00:52:06.320 --> 00:52:07.440
<v SPEAKER_00>Like a grifter.

00:52:07.679 --> 00:52:08.480
<v SPEAKER_00>I think it's a bad thing.

00:52:08.639 --> 00:52:10.239
<v SPEAKER_00>I was like, this doesn't sound like a good thing.

00:52:10.320 --> 00:52:17.360
<v SPEAKER_00>It sounds like that I'm some kind of like influencer full of I just go, oh, bad me, bad me.

00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:22.239
<v SPEAKER_00>I told people, and and it I said, you know, I didn't say a weighted vest was gonna help someone build muscle.

00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:25.199
<v SPEAKER_00>It's gonna help them burn calories and put a little load on their spine.

00:52:25.519 --> 00:52:26.480
<v SPEAKER_01>Th is there a negative?

00:52:26.880 --> 00:52:33.199
<v SPEAKER_01>I'm just playing devos advocate, because of maybe someone's spine is like out of uh very out of alignment.

00:52:33.280 --> 00:52:35.119
<v SPEAKER_01>They put a weighted vest on and now they're worse.

00:52:35.679 --> 00:52:37.280
<v SPEAKER_01>There's always gonna be a reason to be able to do that.

00:52:37.440 --> 00:52:41.039
<v SPEAKER_00>So there's always someone that something won't work well for the other.

00:52:41.360 --> 00:52:42.639
<v SPEAKER_00>Oh, and they'll find you on social media.

00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:49.519
<v SPEAKER_00>They will find me and then they're gonna like, oh, the first time I promoted CGMs, I got totally attacked.

00:52:49.599 --> 00:52:49.679
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah.

00:52:50.000 --> 00:52:53.519
<v SPEAKER_00>Because there weren't enough CGMs for the type one diabetics.

00:52:53.599 --> 00:52:56.000
<v SPEAKER_00>They go, there's no shortage of CGMs.

00:52:56.239 --> 00:52:59.360
<v SPEAKER_00>So we're like there's not a shortage here.

00:52:59.599 --> 00:53:01.519
<v SPEAKER_00>We have a metabolic health crisis.

00:53:01.760 --> 00:53:04.559
<v SPEAKER_00>We have a way for people to start to really see the impact.

00:53:04.719 --> 00:53:07.119
<v SPEAKER_00>I'm not following your logic, but you know.

00:53:10.159 --> 00:53:10.320
<v SPEAKER_00>No.

00:53:10.880 --> 00:53:13.519
<v SPEAKER_01>So that I that was the perfect plan.

00:53:13.920 --> 00:53:15.119
<v SPEAKER_01>It's so it's and it's simple, right?

00:53:15.440 --> 00:53:16.079
<v SPEAKER_01>It's so simple.

00:53:16.159 --> 00:53:19.519
<v SPEAKER_01>And that would take so little of someone's daily time.

00:53:19.760 --> 00:53:22.559
<v SPEAKER_01>I mean, and you can jump into that on any level you want.

00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:23.360
<v SPEAKER_01>I think that's the best thing.

00:53:23.599 --> 00:53:25.280
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, I mean we can always take it up from there, believe me.

00:53:26.239 --> 00:53:26.559
<v SPEAKER_00>Well, of course.

00:53:27.360 --> 00:53:34.159
<v SPEAKER_00>But if you look at it right now, I think it's something like 70% of people are not even meeting the minimum requirements.

00:53:34.320 --> 00:53:39.199
<v SPEAKER_00>Like it's i for for what the CDC recommends for exercise.

00:53:39.440 --> 00:53:43.840
<v SPEAKER_00>We have now what, like, I think five percent of the people are metabolically healthy.

00:53:43.920 --> 00:53:46.719
<v SPEAKER_00>So I mean, you know, and everyone trying to figure it out.

00:53:46.800 --> 00:53:49.039
<v SPEAKER_00>I go, let's just get them, can we just get them moving?

00:53:49.280 --> 00:53:50.000
<v SPEAKER_00>Like just moving.

00:53:50.320 --> 00:53:52.719
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, it it's such a simple thing to do.

00:53:52.960 --> 00:54:01.760
<v SPEAKER_01>I think some people don't start things because maybe they have a vision of when they were in their 20s or 30s of what exercise is, and they're like, uh, I can't do that.

00:54:02.159 --> 00:54:04.639
<v SPEAKER_01>There's no more leg warmers, so no one needs to be afraid.

00:54:07.119 --> 00:54:08.800
<v SPEAKER_00>I have pictures of me in those leg warmers.

00:54:09.039 --> 00:54:09.599
<v SPEAKER_00>I'm sure you do.

00:54:09.920 --> 00:54:10.400
<v SPEAKER_00>Oh my gosh.

00:54:10.639 --> 00:54:15.119
<v SPEAKER_00>I mean, I'm so happy that we didn't have iPhones back then because there'd just be lots of incremental.

00:54:15.440 --> 00:54:17.039
<v SPEAKER_01>I have pictures of me in E.G.

00:54:17.199 --> 00:54:18.000
<v SPEAKER_01>Smith socks.

00:54:18.159 --> 00:54:18.400
<v SPEAKER_01>Okay.

00:54:18.480 --> 00:54:19.599
<v SPEAKER_01>Do you remember what those were?

00:54:19.840 --> 00:54:20.400
<v SPEAKER_01>Probably not.

00:54:20.880 --> 00:54:24.320
<v SPEAKER_01>They're like those like really puffy socks that men wore too, right?

00:54:24.880 --> 00:54:26.159
<v SPEAKER_01>And they kind of like were above.

00:54:26.320 --> 00:54:28.320
<v SPEAKER_00>And I used to do like dolphin shorts on?

00:54:28.480 --> 00:54:29.599
<v SPEAKER_01>I I don't know what I had on.

00:54:29.679 --> 00:54:31.119
<v SPEAKER_01>I had golfing shorts sometimes.

00:54:31.360 --> 00:54:36.480
<v SPEAKER_00>I saw a guy in dolphin shorts at the gym the other day that it was at the same gym that the guy was doing the push-ups.

00:54:36.639 --> 00:54:37.840
<v SPEAKER_00>I'm like, what is going on here?

00:54:38.239 --> 00:54:41.599
<v SPEAKER_00>We've got dolphin shorts, we've got bad push-up guy, like what's going on?

00:54:42.079 --> 00:54:43.280
<v SPEAKER_00>And the time warp.

00:54:44.480 --> 00:54:46.079
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, I should just find these socks.

00:54:46.159 --> 00:54:50.239
<v SPEAKER_01>I the reason I liked it was because I always had skinny ankles and I thought it made my ankles look better.

00:54:50.559 --> 00:54:51.119
<v SPEAKER_01>It didn't.

00:54:51.199 --> 00:54:51.519
<v SPEAKER_01>Okay.

00:54:51.679 --> 00:54:52.480
<v SPEAKER_01>Anyways, E.G.

00:54:52.559 --> 00:54:52.719
<v SPEAKER_01>Smith.

00:54:54.320 --> 00:54:56.159
<v SPEAKER_01>There's people out there gonna be like, oh my gosh, I remember E.

00:54:56.239 --> 00:54:56.320
<v SPEAKER_01>G.

00:54:56.400 --> 00:54:56.639
<v SPEAKER_01>Smith.

00:54:56.960 --> 00:54:58.079
<v SPEAKER_01>Do you remember parachute pants?

00:54:58.159 --> 00:54:59.440
<v SPEAKER_01>Like those are fun.

00:54:59.760 --> 00:55:00.079
<v SPEAKER_01>Oh yes.

00:55:00.320 --> 00:55:02.400
<v SPEAKER_00>I never wore those are kind of back in style.

00:55:02.480 --> 00:55:03.840
<v SPEAKER_01>I see people with those on nowadays.

00:55:04.159 --> 00:55:04.480
<v SPEAKER_00>Really?

00:55:04.639 --> 00:55:04.800
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

00:55:04.880 --> 00:55:05.119
<v SPEAKER_01>Huh.

00:55:05.280 --> 00:55:07.920
<v SPEAKER_01>Can you I'm talking uh fashion with JJ?

00:55:08.079 --> 00:55:09.679
<v SPEAKER_01>We're actually moving into fashion right now.

00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:15.280
<v SPEAKER_01>I didn't think we were going there, but resonating over the 80s fashion, however, this is this is not good.

00:55:15.519 --> 00:55:16.639
<v SPEAKER_01>Um, yeah, okay.

00:55:16.800 --> 00:55:20.000
<v SPEAKER_01>I have to pull you back because your son Grant.

00:55:20.239 --> 00:55:20.639
<v SPEAKER_00>Oh yes.

00:55:20.880 --> 00:55:25.679
<v SPEAKER_01>I mean, I think all you know, it's one of those things, God works all things for good, right?

00:55:25.840 --> 00:55:29.440
<v SPEAKER_01>It's like that it's this is an amazing story.

00:55:29.599 --> 00:55:41.119
<v SPEAKER_01>Wait till you hear this story because I I think the part that stands out in my mind, and we were texting, you know, around this time because I think everyone in the whole world that knew you was texting you because it was such a horrific accident.

00:55:41.440 --> 00:55:46.880
<v SPEAKER_01>But I remember you saying that, you know, they literally said he's going to die.

00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:51.199
<v SPEAKER_01>Maybe, you know, there's a one or two percent chance, I don't know, that they gave him to live.

00:55:51.440 --> 00:55:52.239
<v SPEAKER_00>It wasn't even that high.

00:55:52.559 --> 00:55:53.280
<v SPEAKER_01>Is that okay?

00:55:53.440 --> 00:55:55.599
<v SPEAKER_01>And I was like, oh my God, like why would they say that?

00:55:55.760 --> 00:55:57.760
<v SPEAKER_01>Like, and you said absolutely no way.

00:55:57.840 --> 00:55:58.159
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

00:55:58.320 --> 00:56:05.679
<v SPEAKER_01>Um, so tell tell the story because I just watched I watched you as a human go for go to another level.

00:56:05.840 --> 00:56:06.079
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

00:56:06.239 --> 00:56:10.800
<v SPEAKER_01>And I mean, not that you weren't before, but it really did transform you, your commitment, everything.

00:56:11.199 --> 00:56:12.719
<v SPEAKER_00>We're never better than when we're challenged, right?

00:56:12.800 --> 00:56:13.199
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah.

00:56:13.360 --> 00:56:19.280
<v SPEAKER_00>Um, and I was fortunate, it's funny, because I wrote a book about it, and everyone kept saying, How did you navigate through that?

00:56:19.360 --> 00:56:20.239
<v SPEAKER_00>And I go, I don't know.

00:56:20.320 --> 00:56:21.280
<v SPEAKER_00>It was just in me.

00:56:21.440 --> 00:56:34.400
<v SPEAKER_00>And I realized after writing the book that actually I'd had a mentor at age 30 who basically, she was a mindset coach, and she kind of inputted all this in me, and I didn't even realize it.

00:56:34.480 --> 00:56:35.840
<v SPEAKER_00>And it was just how I operated.

00:56:36.000 --> 00:56:45.920
<v SPEAKER_00>And it was so much how I operated that it didn't occur to me to think of this any other way than what she taught me, which was she taught me that the only limitations are the limitations in your mind.

00:56:46.079 --> 00:56:52.320
<v SPEAKER_00>Now, when I started working with her, I thought she was absolutely crazy and that this is of course there's limitations.

00:56:52.400 --> 00:56:54.480
<v SPEAKER_00>She would tell me, you know, there is no right or wrong, there just is.

00:56:54.559 --> 00:56:56.639
<v SPEAKER_00>I'm like, of course there's right or wrong, you know.

00:56:56.880 --> 00:56:58.079
<v SPEAKER_00>So she would tell me these things.

00:56:58.239 --> 00:57:03.039
<v SPEAKER_00>I'm like, oh, but you work with someone long enough, they just it it gets into you.

00:57:03.519 --> 00:57:06.400
<v SPEAKER_00>And so what was great is it also got into my kids.

00:57:06.880 --> 00:57:14.559
<v SPEAKER_00>So my son Grant was uh I and I don't even like to say the victim, I like the victor of a hit and run where he was literally.

00:57:14.960 --> 00:57:16.880
<v SPEAKER_01>By the way, this was 2012.

00:57:17.119 --> 00:57:18.000
<v SPEAKER_00>This is 2012.

00:57:18.079 --> 00:57:22.559
<v SPEAKER_01>He was um it's hard to believe it was that long ago, but I I had an earmark that how I knew that.

00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:31.199
<v SPEAKER_00>Well, I have an earmark of how I know it because it was nine, it was September 10th, and I thought, oh my gosh, he's gonna die in 9-11.

00:57:31.360 --> 00:57:31.679
<v SPEAKER_00>Right.

00:57:31.840 --> 00:57:36.400
<v SPEAKER_00>So I knew like 9-10 is the doctor's telling me this, and I'm like, no, he's not.

00:57:36.719 --> 00:57:40.159
<v SPEAKER_00>So this was 9-10, 2012.

00:57:40.239 --> 00:57:43.199
<v SPEAKER_00>It was a couple months before the Virgin Diet was coming out.

00:57:43.440 --> 00:57:44.719
<v SPEAKER_00>It was coming out in November.

00:57:44.800 --> 00:57:53.760
<v SPEAKER_00>We were just starting all the book launch stuff, and he gone out that day, it was at dusk to go walk, and he uh got hit by a car.

00:57:54.000 --> 00:57:57.920
<v SPEAKER_00>All we know is that this car um stopped.

00:57:58.079 --> 00:58:00.719
<v SPEAKER_00>My neighbor, my neighbor saw him lying in the street.

00:58:00.880 --> 00:58:03.760
<v SPEAKER_00>She saw this car uh he saw this car stopped.

00:58:03.920 --> 00:58:07.440
<v SPEAKER_00>This woman get out of the car, look back, gasp, get back in the car, and drive off.

00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:08.400
<v SPEAKER_00>And it was a woman.

00:58:08.639 --> 00:58:09.920
<v SPEAKER_00>It was a woman in a white car.

00:58:10.000 --> 00:58:10.559
<v SPEAKER_00>That's all we know.

00:58:11.360 --> 00:58:12.320
<v SPEAKER_01>Never to be found this day.

00:58:12.480 --> 00:58:13.280
<v SPEAKER_00>And never to be found.

00:58:13.440 --> 00:58:18.719
<v SPEAKER_00>Woman in white, mid-sized car, and you know, and it's like it doesn't really actually even matter.

00:58:18.880 --> 00:58:26.400
<v SPEAKER_00>And I'll tell you the interesting thing there, because like the the whole town was like, We're gonna put a and a reward out for her.

00:58:26.480 --> 00:58:28.480
<v SPEAKER_00>And I go, why let's not put any energy on that?

00:58:28.639 --> 00:58:29.679
<v SPEAKER_00>Like, what difference does it make?

00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:32.239
<v SPEAKER_00>We have no idea what was going on there.

00:58:32.480 --> 00:58:34.559
<v SPEAKER_00>Doesn't matter, does not help my son.

00:58:34.880 --> 00:58:36.000
<v SPEAKER_00>Let's stay over here.

00:58:36.239 --> 00:58:45.039
<v SPEAKER_00>Um, but thankfully a neighbor s saw him in the ground on the ground, called 911, he got airlifted to the local hospital.

00:58:45.280 --> 00:58:54.639
<v SPEAKER_00>All we knew was that my ex-husband and and other son, who was 15, came across the scene after everything was gone.

00:58:55.199 --> 00:58:58.960
<v SPEAKER_00>And and and this is a huge thing because we wouldn't have known where he was.

00:58:59.280 --> 00:59:00.480
<v SPEAKER_00>And they said, What happened?

00:59:00.639 --> 00:59:07.519
<v SPEAKER_00>And the policeman said a boy got hit, and he said, and he looks just like him, because you know, my kids were a year apart.

00:59:08.480 --> 00:59:13.360
<v SPEAKER_00>So we drive to the local hospital, we're in the car trying to get information from them.

00:59:13.760 --> 00:59:15.119
<v SPEAKER_00>He's a John Doe to them.

00:59:15.199 --> 00:59:16.639
<v SPEAKER_00>They will not release anything to us.

00:59:16.880 --> 00:59:19.599
<v SPEAKER_00>In fact, when we get there, they put us into a conference room.

00:59:19.760 --> 00:59:22.639
<v SPEAKER_00>I mean, we're s customer service, I will tell you.

00:59:22.800 --> 00:59:30.400
<v SPEAKER_00>Like so, we get into this conference room and they're asking us questions, and I go, I like stop it, you know, stop what is going on.

00:59:30.559 --> 00:59:42.639
<v SPEAKER_00>And that's when they told us he'd been hit, he had a torney orta, he had multiple brain bleeds, he was in a deep coma, and he also had 13 fractures, but those like that was not the meaningful thing.

00:59:43.519 --> 00:59:51.760
<v SPEAKER_00>And so this doctor's saying, you know, he has this torn aorta, and every hour we wait, the chance of it rupturing goes up by 10%.

00:59:52.400 --> 00:59:54.880
<v SPEAKER_00>Sometime in the next 24 hours it's going to rupture.

00:59:55.519 --> 01:00:02.800
<v SPEAKER_00>We don't have the ability to fix it here because it's a very specialized surgery, but he would never survive the uh transport to the next hospital.

01:00:03.280 --> 01:00:05.840
<v SPEAKER_00>Now my son Bryce, who's 15, is sitting here too, right?

01:00:05.920 --> 01:00:08.800
<v SPEAKER_00>And my ex-husband, who was a metamaltrial attorney, is sitting here.

01:00:09.039 --> 01:00:13.360
<v SPEAKER_00>So but this was uh all interesting because of their responses.

01:00:13.519 --> 01:00:20.400
<v SPEAKER_00>So I said, even if he were to survive the the airlift, he's not gonna survive the surgery.

01:00:21.440 --> 01:00:26.639
<v SPEAKER_00>And even if he were to survive the surgery, he would be so brain damaged it wouldn't be worth it.

01:00:27.679 --> 01:00:30.000
<v SPEAKER_00>Now there's also a neurosurgeon sitting in the room.

01:00:30.159 --> 01:00:34.719
<v SPEAKER_00>This was just the critical care guy, but you gotta realize this was Desert Hospital in Palm Springs, California.

01:00:34.960 --> 01:00:37.119
<v SPEAKER_00>Most of what they see are 70 and 80-year-olds.

01:00:37.280 --> 01:00:39.119
<v SPEAKER_00>In that case, he's correct.

01:00:39.280 --> 01:00:47.920
<v SPEAKER_00>They didn't know he was a 16-year-old boy with a lot of muscle on, built like a linebacker, and probably the most stubborn human being I have ever encountered.

01:00:48.159 --> 01:00:48.559
<v SPEAKER_00>You know?

01:00:48.880 --> 01:00:51.199
<v SPEAKER_00>Like so we have that going for us, right?

01:00:51.360 --> 01:00:53.599
<v SPEAKER_00>I mean, unbelievably stubborn.

01:00:54.079 --> 01:01:02.400
<v SPEAKER_00>So my son Bryce looks at this doctor and he goes, the 15-year-old, he goes, so maybe like a 0.0125% chance he'd make it.

01:01:02.480 --> 01:01:03.519
<v SPEAKER_00>And the doctor says, yep.

01:01:03.679 --> 01:01:05.360
<v SPEAKER_00>He goes, Well, that's not zero.

01:01:06.079 --> 01:01:09.840
<v SPEAKER_00>It's like the movie, uh where was it uh with the Jim Carrey.

01:01:10.079 --> 01:01:10.320
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, yeah.

01:01:10.480 --> 01:01:11.519
<v SPEAKER_01>So you're saying there's a chance to make it.

01:01:12.559 --> 01:01:14.559
<v SPEAKER_00>Exactly it's you were saying there's a chance.

01:01:14.800 --> 01:01:17.760
<v SPEAKER_00>And uh and he goes, Well, take those odds.

01:01:18.000 --> 01:01:19.199
<v SPEAKER_00>You know, the 15-year-old.

01:01:19.440 --> 01:01:20.239
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, the 15-year-old.

01:01:20.639 --> 01:01:24.960
<v SPEAKER_00>If you know this guy, first of all, he's getting his PhD in math right now, but he's like Yeah, so yeah, he's a math.

01:01:25.840 --> 01:01:29.280
<v SPEAKER_00>But we always taught them politely question authority.

01:01:29.519 --> 01:01:32.079
<v SPEAKER_00>And especially since they grew up around all doctors.

01:01:32.239 --> 01:01:48.159
<v SPEAKER_00>And you know, here's here's John, my ex-husband, who's done all this med mouth work, and he's like he just started the whole conversation of what needed to happen right now in a way that the doctor knew that if he didn't do this, there was not going to be a good outcome for him.

01:01:48.400 --> 01:01:50.719
<v SPEAKER_00>So, you know, so we had that piece of it.

01:01:50.880 --> 01:01:52.320
<v SPEAKER_00>So we got him airlifted.

01:01:52.400 --> 01:01:53.519
<v SPEAKER_00>He survived the airlift.

01:01:53.679 --> 01:02:04.159
<v SPEAKER_00>Boy, when I got to the next hospital, which was Harbor, UCLA, there had been one surgeon there, Carlos Donaire, who literally got a hold of orthopedic surgeons.

01:02:04.239 --> 01:02:08.480
<v SPEAKER_00>He got this stint to put in that was not even available anymore, but it's the one he wanted to use.

01:02:08.639 --> 01:02:10.880
<v SPEAKER_00>He had the neurosurgeons there, he had everybody there.

01:02:10.960 --> 01:02:12.559
<v SPEAKER_00>We had five surgical teams.

01:02:12.800 --> 01:02:18.159
<v SPEAKER_00>And I remember he's like, Here, you go over here and and I'll be back in a couple hours and everything will be fine.

01:02:18.559 --> 01:02:19.199
<v SPEAKER_00>Great.

01:02:19.519 --> 01:02:19.840
<v SPEAKER_00>Okay.

01:02:20.480 --> 01:02:23.360
<v SPEAKER_00>And so he came back in a couple hours and goes, Everything's fine.

01:02:24.239 --> 01:02:25.920
<v SPEAKER_00>He goes, now I don't know if he'll ever wake up.

01:02:26.000 --> 01:02:27.039
<v SPEAKER_00>That's the neurosurgeon.

01:02:27.119 --> 01:02:28.639
<v SPEAKER_00>So I'm like, oh my gosh.

01:02:28.960 --> 01:02:35.599
<v SPEAKER_00>But um when I saw him in the room, I remember I was holding his finger and he literally had 13 fractures.

01:02:35.679 --> 01:02:41.679
<v SPEAKER_00>So he had like his his legs were in cast, his heel was in a cast, his arm was in a cast, everything, and he had like a finger.

01:02:41.760 --> 01:02:45.679
<v SPEAKER_00>You know, I'm holding a finger and I'm like, Grant, you know, you gotta fight.

01:02:45.840 --> 01:02:50.800
<v SPEAKER_00>And I told him, I'm gonna bring the troops, your name means warrior, you're gonna be 110%.

01:02:51.119 --> 01:02:52.719
<v SPEAKER_00>And I felt the little squeeze.

01:02:53.039 --> 01:02:54.800
<v SPEAKER_00>I'm like, oh, he's in there.

01:02:55.039 --> 01:02:59.119
<v SPEAKER_00>Because I've watched a lot of those movies on people in comas, and I know they can hear you, right?

01:02:59.440 --> 01:03:03.119
<v SPEAKER_00>And uh, you know, and I'm like, and and I love you so much, nothing.

01:03:03.199 --> 01:03:08.960
<v SPEAKER_00>And then I said, and Bryce loves you, and I felt this bigger squeeze, and then Grammy loves you, nothing.

01:03:09.199 --> 01:03:16.880
<v SPEAKER_00>Your girlfriend really, you know, wants to come see you, and then he tried to pick his my hand up off the bed, and then I'm like, all right, we're we're gonna do this.

01:03:17.119 --> 01:03:21.119
<v SPEAKER_00>And I just, you know, I was fortunate in that we had people like Dr.

01:03:21.199 --> 01:03:22.719
<v SPEAKER_00>Daniel Lehman coming to the hospital.

01:03:22.800 --> 01:03:24.000
<v SPEAKER_00>Everybody was coming in to help us.

01:03:24.159 --> 01:03:25.599
<v SPEAKER_00>The hospital's like, Who are you?

01:03:25.840 --> 01:03:27.199
<v SPEAKER_00>What's going on here?

01:03:27.440 --> 01:03:33.760
<v SPEAKER_00>And uh we just did everything we needed to, like everything I could find that had anything behind it.

01:03:33.920 --> 01:03:39.840
<v SPEAKER_00>We uh got a hold of the guy who did the progesterone research at Emory for brain injuries and talked to him because it was a five-day study.

01:03:39.920 --> 01:03:43.119
<v SPEAKER_00>He goes, The only reason it was five days is because we didn't have funding for longer.

01:03:43.199 --> 01:03:45.119
<v SPEAKER_00>I'm like, great, we were doing progesterone.

01:03:45.440 --> 01:03:49.039
<v SPEAKER_00>I got a hold of uh the guys doing all the fish oil studies.

01:03:49.199 --> 01:03:52.719
<v SPEAKER_00>I got all the research from them and the hospital wouldn't let me do it.

01:03:52.800 --> 01:03:55.920
<v SPEAKER_00>So the minute he intubated himself, I did it anyway.

01:03:56.159 --> 01:03:58.480
<v SPEAKER_00>And I mean, we just we just did all the stuff.

01:03:58.559 --> 01:04:03.440
<v SPEAKER_00>We hit him with a lot of amino acids because I was afraid of him losing his muscle and getting catabolic.

01:04:03.599 --> 01:04:05.760
<v SPEAKER_00>And we didn't even have what we have available now.

01:04:05.920 --> 01:04:08.159
<v SPEAKER_00>I mean, now we're doing really cool stuff.

01:04:08.400 --> 01:04:09.840
<v SPEAKER_00>Um, I mean, there's so much.

01:04:09.920 --> 01:04:17.519
<v SPEAKER_00>Like I just had a friend who um their son fell off a ladder and like already the h the hospital's like, oh, he's not gonna make it now.

01:04:17.760 --> 01:04:18.639
<v SPEAKER_00>They're like one month in.

01:04:18.800 --> 01:04:20.239
<v SPEAKER_00>They go, We can't, they can't even believe it.

01:04:20.320 --> 01:04:22.880
<v SPEAKER_00>I go, and you haven't even like you haven't even scratched the surface.

01:04:23.280 --> 01:04:29.519
<v SPEAKER_01>My son jumped off a cliff, fell 50 feet, hit rock, he should have been dead, absolutely should have been paralyzed.

01:04:29.840 --> 01:04:43.440
<v SPEAKER_01>We refused this massive surgery from the front, fused six vertebrae, metal on his body, the whole they thought we were absolutely nuts, but we were wow, we had the we had so many people praying because that's oh, and then we had that.

01:04:43.519 --> 01:04:46.559
<v SPEAKER_00>We had every religion, like I was like, it's all represented here.

01:04:46.880 --> 01:04:48.400
<v SPEAKER_01>And we were doing everything, you know.

01:04:48.559 --> 01:04:54.639
<v SPEAKER_01>In you know, he what they said wouldn't happen literally in two weeks, you know, he was able to stand.

01:04:55.119 --> 01:04:56.159
<v SPEAKER_01>Is it funny too?

01:04:56.320 --> 01:04:59.760
<v SPEAKER_00>And then they're like, wow, this is um, yeah, just keep doing what you're doing.

01:04:59.920 --> 01:05:00.719
<v SPEAKER_00>You're like, okay.

01:05:01.039 --> 01:05:02.159
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, no, that's pretty much it.

01:05:02.239 --> 01:05:05.360
<v SPEAKER_01>And then, you know, the it what they said would never happen, happened.

01:05:05.440 --> 01:05:08.719
<v SPEAKER_01>And then he was like, you know, it was like never asked us what we did.

01:05:09.280 --> 01:05:22.719
<v SPEAKER_00>Nothing about the weird Well, so here's what happened at the hospital, because as this is all happening, and you know, he's coming out of this and talk and talking, and they're like, the nurses were going, okay, write down exactly what you're doing because I want to use it on my other patient, my mom, my this.

01:05:22.800 --> 01:05:24.079
<v SPEAKER_00>And I'm like, sure, you know.

01:05:24.480 --> 01:05:26.719
<v SPEAKER_01>The head surgeon never even asked us.

01:05:26.800 --> 01:05:31.599
<v SPEAKER_01>He was just like, you know, I think I said to him, like, don't you want to know?

01:05:31.840 --> 01:05:34.159
<v SPEAKER_01>Like, and he was like, No, just keep doing it.

01:05:34.239 --> 01:05:34.719
<v SPEAKER_01>That was it.

01:05:34.880 --> 01:05:36.079
<v SPEAKER_01>Like, he didn't care.

01:05:36.239 --> 01:05:40.639
<v SPEAKER_01>I I I could have been a little more combative and said, Yeah, but what about your other people that are coming in?

01:05:40.800 --> 01:05:42.159
<v SPEAKER_01>You're just gonna do the surgery on them.

01:05:42.480 --> 01:05:52.639
<v SPEAKER_00>I will tell you, it was so it was after that that same hospital, uh, another kid had a skateboarding accident, and it likely is was a totally different situation.

01:05:52.800 --> 01:05:59.760
<v SPEAKER_00>However, he went with this brain injury over there, and I was trying to get a hold of the parents because they were both doctors.

01:06:00.320 --> 01:06:02.079
<v SPEAKER_00>And they were I was like, get him out of there.

01:06:02.400 --> 01:06:05.039
<v SPEAKER_00>Like he died within the next forty-eight hours.

01:06:05.119 --> 01:06:10.320
<v SPEAKER_01>And I'm like, What was the the feeling as a mother, you know, with those odds?

01:06:11.039 --> 01:06:12.079
<v SPEAKER_00>I never looked at those odds.

01:06:12.239 --> 01:06:16.719
<v SPEAKER_00>I never looked at I did not, I held this it is hold the vision, not the circumstance.

01:06:16.800 --> 01:06:26.480
<v SPEAKER_00>I would not let that anything but him 110% enter my brain because I was so afraid that if any glimpse of it entered that that's what would happen.

01:06:26.719 --> 01:06:37.280
<v SPEAKER_00>You know, I just stayed in total like I would I remember because at the time I was also going and doing like PBS stuff for the book and all this, and I'd see kids in wheelchairs and kids, and I was like going, We're so we're so fortunate.

01:06:37.360 --> 01:06:40.000
<v SPEAKER_00>I just kept like being grateful.

01:06:40.159 --> 01:06:47.440
<v SPEAKER_00>It was it was a complete mindset management, but I believed that our thoughts create and that that was going to be the thing that made the difference.

01:06:47.599 --> 01:06:48.960
<v SPEAKER_00>And so I did not let it in.

01:06:49.039 --> 01:06:51.280
<v SPEAKER_01>Aaron Powell What about when you did you get a phone call?

01:06:51.440 --> 01:06:54.960
<v SPEAKER_01>How did you find I I'm just thinking back to my traumas, right?

01:06:55.280 --> 01:06:58.400
<v SPEAKER_01>I mean, like when I got like my son hit a tree skiing, right?

01:06:58.719 --> 01:07:01.039
<v SPEAKER_01>We got that we were in church and they they did one of these.

01:07:01.280 --> 01:07:03.199
<v SPEAKER_01>It's like, you know, and you hit hear the news, right?

01:07:03.440 --> 01:07:06.639
<v SPEAKER_01>It's like my I know my face went white, but I went into action.

01:07:07.039 --> 01:07:07.280
<v SPEAKER_00>I know.

01:07:07.360 --> 01:07:16.639
<v SPEAKER_00>I go into so it it is interesting to watch how my ex-husband and I go, because I go into complete action and he goes into complete like you know, Marilyn.

01:07:17.599 --> 01:07:20.320
<v SPEAKER_01>Marilyn had to find a bathroom because she literally has to poop.

01:07:20.400 --> 01:07:20.559
<v SPEAKER_01>Okay.

01:07:20.719 --> 01:07:21.280
<v SPEAKER_01>I'm not kidding.

01:07:21.360 --> 01:07:22.400
<v SPEAKER_01>This is what she does in trauma.

01:07:22.559 --> 01:07:23.760
<v SPEAKER_01>Like just to go poop.

01:07:24.239 --> 01:07:28.159
<v SPEAKER_00>I thought your body like shut that stuff down during the no, she's the opposite.

01:07:28.400 --> 01:07:30.960
<v SPEAKER_00>I'm like, I'm going to go take care of everything, get out of the way.

01:07:31.119 --> 01:07:32.719
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, like she's pooping, right?

01:07:32.880 --> 01:07:34.239
<v SPEAKER_00>She flips the whole thing.

01:07:34.480 --> 01:07:34.639
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

01:07:34.719 --> 01:07:36.159
<v SPEAKER_01>And I'm like, okay, we gotta do this.

01:07:37.519 --> 01:07:37.920
<v SPEAKER_00>No, no.

01:07:38.000 --> 01:07:46.719
<v SPEAKER_00>My um my ex-husband and son came running into the house because they'd come across the scene, and that's when they knew.

01:07:47.039 --> 01:07:48.079
<v SPEAKER_00>Otherwise, we wouldn't have known.

01:07:48.159 --> 01:07:52.880
<v SPEAKER_00>Truthfully, if they hadn't come across the scene, he wouldn't have come home and we would have been like, where is he?

01:07:53.119 --> 01:08:01.360
<v SPEAKER_00>You know, and and who knows if he would have just passed away because they weren't doing what they needed to do, and he didn't have ID with him.

01:08:02.000 --> 01:08:04.000
<v SPEAKER_00>So Wow.

01:08:04.239 --> 01:08:09.119
<v SPEAKER_01>So what in your professional career, what did it do for you?

01:08:09.519 --> 01:08:10.400
<v SPEAKER_01>Pain to purpose.

01:08:10.719 --> 01:08:20.800
<v SPEAKER_00>It was interesting because that was when the the Virgin Diet came out, and I think that the biggest thing that I saw was this is way bigger than drop seven poos, lose seven pounds, just seven days.

01:08:20.880 --> 01:08:25.039
<v SPEAKER_00>Like we we never know when something like this is gonna happen.

01:08:25.199 --> 01:08:31.600
<v SPEAKER_00>I felt very fortunate that I walked into that situation physically and mentally strong.

01:08:31.920 --> 01:08:37.439
<v SPEAKER_00>Like you can never be ready, but I was I was I was as strong as possible so I could be resilient.

01:08:37.760 --> 01:08:39.279
<v SPEAKER_00>We're all gonna get challenged.

01:08:39.439 --> 01:08:41.199
<v SPEAKER_00>Like you need to stay at the top of your game.

01:08:41.359 --> 01:08:45.119
<v SPEAKER_00>Like if I had walked into that sick, you couldn't go into the ICU if you had a sniffle.

01:08:45.520 --> 01:08:49.840
<v SPEAKER_00>You know, like I was fully gloved and mass and everything else and under this ridiculous stress.

01:08:50.319 --> 01:08:53.119
<v SPEAKER_00>And even so, I was getting eight hours of sleep a night.

01:08:53.199 --> 01:08:55.840
<v SPEAKER_00>I was running up and down the hospital stairs to do some HIT training.

01:08:55.920 --> 01:08:58.319
<v SPEAKER_00>I was like, you know, Whole Foods was sending me food over.

01:08:58.399 --> 01:09:03.920
<v SPEAKER_00>I did everything I needed to do, and it just made me realize like control what you can control.

01:09:04.640 --> 01:09:09.680
<v SPEAKER_00>Like do all the things because there's so much out there that is gonna happen.

01:09:09.920 --> 01:09:11.520
<v SPEAKER_00>And are you ready for it?

01:09:11.680 --> 01:09:13.840
<v SPEAKER_00>And fortunately, he was too.

01:09:13.920 --> 01:09:21.840
<v SPEAKER_00>Like, if he'd gone into that, into that whole accident as a like skinny kid who wasn't in great health, he never would have made it.

01:09:22.159 --> 01:09:24.640
<v SPEAKER_01>It was my son Daniel, he should have died, but he went in.

01:09:24.720 --> 01:09:27.680
<v SPEAKER_01>I mean, he was so physically fit, he was so muscular.

01:09:27.760 --> 01:09:37.439
<v SPEAKER_01>And that was one of the things they said, well, you know, if there's even just one ligament intact, I found a study showing that it's better not to do the surgery.

01:09:37.600 --> 01:09:41.279
<v SPEAKER_01>And he goes, Yeah, but there's all the ligaments are ruptured.

01:09:41.439 --> 01:09:43.600
<v SPEAKER_01>I'm like, Well, how do you know you didn't do an MRI?

01:09:43.760 --> 01:09:47.760
<v SPEAKER_01>Well, it's because an injury like this, there's never a time when it wouldn't be.

01:09:48.000 --> 01:09:53.039
<v SPEAKER_01>My son's in the background, do an MRI, did an MRI, major ligament intact.

01:09:53.359 --> 01:09:54.880
<v SPEAKER_01>Because he was so muscular.

01:09:55.039 --> 01:09:58.399
<v SPEAKER_01>You know, I mean he was squatting all kinds of way, you know.

01:09:58.479 --> 01:10:02.800
<v SPEAKER_01>But yeah, that one ligament, at least I had a study to say.

01:10:03.039 --> 01:10:10.399
<v SPEAKER_01>My son was like, I wasn't getting the surgery anyway, but at least I had a study to say if one ligament's intact long term this did better than the surgery.

01:10:10.560 --> 01:10:18.000
<v SPEAKER_01>So at least they didn't uh he he was of age, he was an adult, so he could do what he wanted, but we we battled the hospital.

01:10:18.399 --> 01:10:23.199
<v SPEAKER_00>Well, I had I brought studies in and they still they IRB is not gonna give you fishing.

01:10:24.000 --> 01:10:26.640
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, no, they they yeah, it's always a battle.

01:10:27.199 --> 01:10:36.640
<v SPEAKER_00>It's quite something, and I think the other side is like you have got to and and thankfully now it's a lot easier to get more opinions and more support and more health back then.

01:10:36.720 --> 01:10:38.800
<v SPEAKER_00>Like I had crazy great access.

01:10:39.039 --> 01:10:41.680
<v SPEAKER_00>Now there is the access is just easier.

01:10:42.239 --> 01:10:47.840
<v SPEAKER_00>So people can get these resources and learn these things and get access and not have to rely.

01:10:48.239 --> 01:10:49.279
<v SPEAKER_00>Where's Grant today?

01:10:49.840 --> 01:10:52.159
<v SPEAKER_00>Grant is right near nearby us.

01:10:52.399 --> 01:10:55.520
<v SPEAKER_00>He lives he lives with his dad over in Wesley Chapel.

01:10:55.840 --> 01:10:56.319
<v SPEAKER_00>How old is he now?

01:10:56.560 --> 01:10:57.840
<v SPEAKER_00>He is 29.

01:10:58.159 --> 01:10:58.800
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, yeah.

01:10:59.600 --> 01:11:03.039
<v SPEAKER_00>Which it's always uh every birthday and Thanksgiving.

01:11:03.119 --> 01:11:05.359
<v SPEAKER_00>It's like the the gratitude to be here.

01:11:05.600 --> 01:11:14.960
<v SPEAKER_00>And there was a time you can't even explain these things, and I can't talk a whole lot about it, but he was in a hospital and got uh beat up by the security guards in the hospital.

01:11:15.279 --> 01:11:17.199
<v SPEAKER_00>And so I have to just keep it at that right now.

01:11:17.439 --> 01:11:18.960
<v SPEAKER_00>But basically the after.

01:11:19.199 --> 01:11:20.239
<v SPEAKER_00>This was just a few years ago.

01:11:20.560 --> 01:11:22.560
<v SPEAKER_00>And his brain really started to go down.

01:11:22.720 --> 01:11:24.159
<v SPEAKER_00>So we've been really working.

01:11:24.399 --> 01:11:28.800
<v SPEAKER_00>Fortunately, like when you start to know these therapies, there's so much that you can do.

01:11:28.960 --> 01:11:32.880
<v SPEAKER_00>Um, one of the things with the brain injury is like the big thing is don't ever hit your head again.

01:11:33.199 --> 01:11:34.399
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, it becomes a target.

01:11:34.560 --> 01:11:35.119
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah.

01:11:35.760 --> 01:11:44.159
<v SPEAKER_00>But um, he is doing so much better, like considering he was supposed to be dead and considering he had to learn every single thing all over again.

01:11:44.479 --> 01:11:48.800
<v SPEAKER_00>He couldn't remember it was literally like Groundhog's Day every minute where he couldn't remember a thing.

01:11:48.960 --> 01:11:50.720
<v SPEAKER_00>He had zero memory whatsoever.

01:11:50.880 --> 01:11:53.119
<v SPEAKER_00>You know, who am I, where am I, can I go home?

01:11:53.279 --> 01:11:55.600
<v SPEAKER_00>So he learned everything ground up again.

01:11:55.920 --> 01:11:57.920
<v SPEAKER_01>So what was kind of the trajectory there?

01:11:58.000 --> 01:12:00.079
<v SPEAKER_01>Like, was it a year he was this much better?

01:12:00.239 --> 01:12:03.359
<v SPEAKER_01>Like when did you see like a big turn after how much time?

01:12:03.840 --> 01:12:10.800
<v SPEAKER_00>It didn't go like there were no it started out, he came out of the um coma and I thought it would be amazing.

01:12:10.960 --> 01:12:12.239
<v SPEAKER_00>And I remember nothing.

01:12:12.319 --> 01:12:20.079
<v SPEAKER_00>Like he came out of the coma coma, opened his eyes, couldn't talk, stared off into space, moved his one arm that wasn't in a cast back and forth, and I'm like, oh no.

01:12:20.399 --> 01:12:24.560
<v SPEAKER_00>And so I just started working on waking everything up, like all of his senses.

01:12:24.960 --> 01:12:33.039
<v SPEAKER_00>Um and it just the first part was was you know, little things like making eye contact, laughing at a movie, because we couldn't even tell.

01:12:33.119 --> 01:12:35.680
<v SPEAKER_00>We didn't know if he could hear, he could see, nothing.

01:12:35.840 --> 01:12:37.439
<v SPEAKER_00>We had no idea who was waking up.

01:12:37.600 --> 01:12:42.640
<v SPEAKER_00>And so it would go in spurts where things would happen, and then all of a sudden you're like, it's is the grass growing?

01:12:42.720 --> 01:12:45.199
<v SPEAKER_00>You know, it just it kind of went in spurts.

01:12:45.520 --> 01:12:47.840
<v SPEAKER_01>And did he ever remember what happened?

01:12:47.920 --> 01:12:48.079
<v SPEAKER_01>No.

01:12:48.319 --> 01:12:49.439
<v SPEAKER_01>He doesn't remember the accident.

01:12:49.760 --> 01:12:52.079
<v SPEAKER_01>Um but then he started to remember who he was.

01:12:52.560 --> 01:12:53.199
<v SPEAKER_01>Yes, okay.

01:12:53.520 --> 01:12:54.479
<v SPEAKER_01>That we did a lot of it.

01:12:54.800 --> 01:13:01.760
<v SPEAKER_00>So we did a bunch, we went from one hospital to a rehab hospital, children's hospital, and he was making pretty good progress there.

01:13:01.840 --> 01:13:06.159
<v SPEAKER_00>However, I knew he needed to be at home where he things were familiar.

01:13:06.399 --> 01:13:10.640
<v SPEAKER_00>So we brought him home, and they also wouldn't like let us take him to a pool or do anything.

01:13:10.720 --> 01:13:17.760
<v SPEAKER_00>And we literally took him out of there because I was I had rented a condo and put him in their big Olympic-sized pool and he swam perfectly, and we're like, see.

01:13:18.239 --> 01:13:19.680
<v SPEAKER_00>So we brought him home.

01:13:19.760 --> 01:13:29.359
<v SPEAKER_00>We had him working at this place called Kinetics Gym in Palm Desert where he was doing battle ropes and um all sorts of weight lifting, and he was running sprints with his dad.

01:13:29.439 --> 01:13:31.279
<v SPEAKER_00>And so we just started doing stuff.

01:13:31.439 --> 01:13:33.199
<v SPEAKER_00>We had a ping pong table at home because Dr.

01:13:33.279 --> 01:13:35.039
<v SPEAKER_00>Raymond was like to have him do ping pong.

01:13:35.279 --> 01:13:37.279
<v SPEAKER_00>We had him working with an amazing speech therapist.

01:13:37.680 --> 01:13:40.720
<v SPEAKER_00>So we just brought him back and started pushing him.

01:13:40.880 --> 01:13:46.159
<v SPEAKER_00>In fact, he at one point was like, back off, you know, because I was like, you know, there's so many things you can do, hyperbaric.

01:13:46.319 --> 01:13:50.560
<v SPEAKER_00>And so we've done a lot of different therapies.

01:13:50.640 --> 01:14:03.199
<v SPEAKER_00>Right now we're working with this doctor, it's actually not a doctor, he's a physics MIT guy who became a nurse practitioner to study brain rehab, who's crazy amazing and happened to move to Wesley Chapel.

01:14:03.279 --> 01:14:05.920
<v SPEAKER_00>So we're working with him to get his eyesight perfect.

01:14:06.000 --> 01:14:09.359
<v SPEAKER_00>And um, yes, Spencer Zimmerman shout out.

01:14:09.520 --> 01:14:11.520
<v SPEAKER_00>So now we're working on that.

01:14:11.600 --> 01:14:14.319
<v SPEAKER_01>So it's always more, yeah, progressing.

01:14:14.399 --> 01:14:15.279
<v SPEAKER_01>I mean, in some aspects.

01:14:15.760 --> 01:14:18.079
<v SPEAKER_00>But now I mean we're just thinking he's a big sweet guy.

01:14:18.239 --> 01:14:20.000
<v SPEAKER_00>Like if you talk to him, you would never know.

01:14:20.319 --> 01:14:23.680
<v SPEAKER_00>You would you would go, uh, you know, sweet guy.

01:14:24.239 --> 01:14:32.000
<v SPEAKER_00>You know, but you can't where his deficits are is i you would never put him into a noisy situation with a lot of stimulation with the lily.

01:14:32.079 --> 01:14:33.760
<v SPEAKER_00>I would just put him like he'd be like, nope.

01:14:33.920 --> 01:14:36.560
<v SPEAKER_00>You know, he needs a lot of predictability, et cetera.

01:14:36.640 --> 01:14:40.000
<v SPEAKER_01>But is he um can he hold down a functioning job?

01:14:40.159 --> 01:14:45.840
<v SPEAKER_00>I mean, what's so there's some issues right now that we can't do because of what happened at that hospital.

01:14:45.920 --> 01:14:48.800
<v SPEAKER_00>So that's I'm dying to know what happened, but I'm not gonna ask.

01:14:48.960 --> 01:14:51.119
<v SPEAKER_01>Um, we're not being recorded.

01:14:51.359 --> 01:14:52.000
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, exactly.

01:14:52.079 --> 01:14:52.319
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

01:14:52.479 --> 01:14:53.119
<v SPEAKER_01>Um terrible.

01:14:53.199 --> 01:14:54.079
<v SPEAKER_01>I can't even imagine.

01:14:54.479 --> 01:14:55.760
<v SPEAKER_00>Wild, incredible.

01:14:55.920 --> 01:14:56.720
<v SPEAKER_00>I'll tell you more at dinner.

01:14:57.199 --> 01:14:57.920
<v SPEAKER_00>You'll go, what?

01:14:58.399 --> 01:14:58.640
<v SPEAKER_00>Wow.

01:14:58.800 --> 01:15:01.760
<v SPEAKER_00>So however, with anyone, here's the thing.

01:15:01.920 --> 01:15:03.680
<v SPEAKER_00>We're we're all gonna go through challenges.

01:15:03.760 --> 01:15:04.079
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah.

01:15:04.239 --> 01:15:06.880
<v SPEAKER_00>This is how you show up in a challenge is everything.

01:15:06.960 --> 01:15:10.640
<v SPEAKER_00>It's easy to show up and be amazing when life is is great.

01:15:11.279 --> 01:15:16.319
<v SPEAKER_00>It's all about you know, uh Wayne Dyer says when you squeeze an orange, you get orange juice.

01:15:16.399 --> 01:15:17.840
<v SPEAKER_00>Like, what do you get when you squeezed?

01:15:18.399 --> 01:15:20.640
<v SPEAKER_00>Because that's the essence of who you really are.

01:15:20.960 --> 01:15:25.199
<v SPEAKER_00>Like the more, and this goes back to resistance training, I truly believe.

01:15:25.439 --> 01:15:29.279
<v SPEAKER_00>I think that when you do hard things, you can do hard things.

01:15:29.520 --> 01:15:31.279
<v SPEAKER_00>That the more you do, the more you can do.

01:15:31.359 --> 01:15:44.000
<v SPEAKER_00>So when you push yourself in life to do things that you don't like, like yoga, like you know, or going heavier at the gym, doing those things, you get into situations like, oh, my body, even though it's a totally different thing, the way you do one thing is the way you do everything.

01:15:44.159 --> 01:15:44.800
<v SPEAKER_00>You're like, I got it.

01:15:45.359 --> 01:15:50.880
<v SPEAKER_00>I can do this, I can focus, I've got the stamina, I've got the endurance, I've got the mindset, I can go after that.

01:15:51.199 --> 01:15:52.640
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, so true.

01:15:52.800 --> 01:16:02.000
<v SPEAKER_01>Uh, you know, I the way I watched you go through that, it was I I guess I I expected it from you because I knew who you were.

01:16:02.319 --> 01:16:06.079
<v SPEAKER_01>That said, uh, you know, sometimes we fall apart.

01:16:06.239 --> 01:16:07.039
<v SPEAKER_01>You didn't.

01:16:07.279 --> 01:16:14.000
<v SPEAKER_01>Um, and my wife and I just kept saying, Man, this this child is blessed to have her as a mother.

01:16:14.319 --> 01:16:15.600
<v SPEAKER_00>Well, he has a great dad too, yeah.

01:16:15.760 --> 01:16:16.640
<v SPEAKER_00>And a great brother.

01:16:16.800 --> 01:16:18.720
<v SPEAKER_00>Like, sounds like it.

01:16:19.039 --> 01:16:19.359
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah.

01:16:19.600 --> 01:16:23.920
<v SPEAKER_00>So, you know, it's it's the whole thing, it takes it takes the village to go through these things.

01:16:24.239 --> 01:16:29.359
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, and all all of you played a role, even you know, his brother at 15 going, yeah, so there's a chance.

01:16:29.840 --> 01:16:31.359
<v SPEAKER_00>His brother's like, you know, Yoda.

01:16:31.600 --> 01:16:34.479
<v SPEAKER_00>He's like an 80-year-old in a now 28-year-old's body.

01:16:34.720 --> 01:16:36.560
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, I mean, uh it made all of you stronger.

01:16:36.720 --> 01:16:38.560
<v SPEAKER_01>And again, I I know you learned a lot.

01:16:38.720 --> 01:16:42.319
<v SPEAKER_01>Neuroplasty is just, you know, getting the brain to reconnect.

01:16:42.479 --> 01:16:51.920
<v SPEAKER_01>And um uh my gosh, I'm sure that's taken every part of your knowledge, training, Instagram, everything that you deliver knowledge to people to another.

01:16:52.239 --> 01:16:57.119
<v SPEAKER_00>Well, fortunately, it's like and having really amazing people who've just been super helpful.

01:16:57.600 --> 01:17:03.680
<v SPEAKER_00>You know, everything from like he was after that thing that happened in the hospital, he was having seizures, and fortunately I could just text Dr.

01:17:03.760 --> 01:17:07.359
<v SPEAKER_00>David Perlmutter and go, uh-oh, what's going on and have him talk me up.

01:17:07.439 --> 01:17:10.000
<v SPEAKER_00>Like just having amazing humans helping.

01:17:10.079 --> 01:17:13.840
<v SPEAKER_00>You know, Kat Toops is another one who's reversed her own dementia.

01:17:14.000 --> 01:17:15.119
<v SPEAKER_00>I don't know if you know her.

01:17:15.199 --> 01:17:17.760
<v SPEAKER_00>She works a lot with Bredison, like just incredible people.

01:17:18.159 --> 01:17:23.279
<v SPEAKER_01>You know, but the fact is, is the good news is is you won't keep that under a hat.

01:17:23.439 --> 01:17:35.119
<v SPEAKER_01>Meaning, you know, that has really I you know, you're out there on social media, you're out there everywhere, you speak at the big seminars, you know, you are bringing everything you learn in some aspect uh, you know, to what you're doing.

01:17:35.359 --> 01:17:35.920
<v SPEAKER_01>That's that was me.

01:17:36.000 --> 01:17:36.960
<v SPEAKER_01>I pain to purpose.

01:17:37.039 --> 01:17:39.119
<v SPEAKER_01>I everything I learned came out of my battle, right?

01:17:39.279 --> 01:17:44.399
<v SPEAKER_01>It's and I've had battles with our kids, different battles that take me to another level.

01:17:44.880 --> 01:17:47.600
<v SPEAKER_01>Okay, well, let's let's end with some fun stuff here.

01:17:47.760 --> 01:17:49.279
<v SPEAKER_01>I I love doing this.

01:17:49.439 --> 01:17:55.680
<v SPEAKER_01>Um it's we're we're gonna say I I'll come up with as many as I can, and you're welcome to add in.

01:17:55.920 --> 01:18:01.600
<v SPEAKER_01>So things that are undervalued and things that are overhyped.

01:18:01.920 --> 01:18:02.239
<v SPEAKER_01>Okay.

01:18:02.800 --> 01:18:06.079
<v SPEAKER_01>So methylene blue, undervalued, overhyped.

01:18:06.479 --> 01:18:13.119
<v SPEAKER_00>So crazy enough, I have not gotten into it as much as I want to yet because it has to be refrigerated.

01:18:14.800 --> 01:18:16.640
<v SPEAKER_00>I'm not sure what that means yet.

01:18:16.960 --> 01:18:19.199
<v SPEAKER_00>No, it's because I travel the time.

01:18:19.680 --> 01:18:22.560
<v SPEAKER_00>And like it's like I do travel with my red lights though.

01:18:22.720 --> 01:18:23.520
<v SPEAKER_00>So it's like I'm home.

01:18:25.279 --> 01:18:25.600
<v SPEAKER_00>I take it.

01:18:25.680 --> 01:18:33.359
<v SPEAKER_00>And then I was like going, so I'd say that one for me is I think that it seems like it has a lot of merit, and I just haven't gotten to it yet.

01:18:33.680 --> 01:18:35.359
<v SPEAKER_00>But if you're talking red light, red light.

01:18:35.600 --> 01:18:38.239
<v SPEAKER_01>I'm undervalued or overhyped.

01:18:38.640 --> 01:18:39.199
<v SPEAKER_01>Undervalued.

01:18:39.520 --> 01:18:39.680
<v SPEAKER_01>Okay.

01:18:41.279 --> 01:18:44.319
<v SPEAKER_01>And what if you gave me one reason why it's undervalued, what would it be?

01:18:44.399 --> 01:18:44.560
<v SPEAKER_01>Trevor Burrus, Jr.

01:18:44.720 --> 01:18:47.119
<v SPEAKER_00>Just inflammation, I would say, tissue regeneration.

01:18:47.279 --> 01:18:49.920
<v SPEAKER_01>Trevor Burrus, Jr.: And then NAD, undervalued, overhyped.

01:18:50.239 --> 01:18:56.079
<v SPEAKER_00>So I take I take uh quality as NAD and totally notice a difference with this.

01:18:56.239 --> 01:19:01.439
<v SPEAKER_00>I think this makes a ton of sense if you look at our NAD production as it goes to how much it plummets when we age.

01:19:01.680 --> 01:19:03.680
<v SPEAKER_00>So I would say this is an undervalued.

01:19:04.159 --> 01:19:04.800
<v SPEAKER_00>All right, great.

01:19:05.039 --> 01:19:07.760
<v SPEAKER_00>Cold bats, undervalued, overhyped.

01:19:09.359 --> 01:19:15.520
<v SPEAKER_00>So in the hierarchy of things, I would say they fall on both sides.

01:19:15.760 --> 01:19:17.680
<v SPEAKER_01>Um I agree with that.

01:19:18.000 --> 01:19:18.159
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah.

01:19:18.319 --> 01:19:22.239
<v SPEAKER_00>Like I think people got themselves crazy about them, and I see people using them at the wrong time.

01:19:22.720 --> 01:19:23.439
<v SPEAKER_01>It's hormesis.

01:19:23.600 --> 01:19:23.680
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah.

01:19:23.760 --> 01:19:24.880
<v SPEAKER_00>So they go against you.

01:19:25.199 --> 01:19:25.439
<v SPEAKER_00>Right.

01:19:25.520 --> 01:19:28.319
<v SPEAKER_00>So I see maybe a couple days a week doing it.

01:19:28.479 --> 01:19:37.039
<v SPEAKER_00>I love the contrast therapy, but what I see like literally I have a friend who works at a gym in um Tampa, and he goes, Yeah, after we worked out, we were all jumping the cold plunge.

01:19:37.119 --> 01:19:38.479
<v SPEAKER_00>I go, that's the dumbest thing I ever heard.

01:19:38.560 --> 01:19:39.520
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, what are you doing?

01:19:39.920 --> 01:19:40.000
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

01:19:40.159 --> 01:19:42.000
<v SPEAKER_01>It impedes recovery, as we find out.

01:19:42.239 --> 01:19:42.479
<v SPEAKER_00>There you go.

01:19:42.560 --> 01:19:44.079
<v SPEAKER_00>You want to block muscle protein synthesis.

01:19:44.159 --> 01:19:45.439
<v SPEAKER_00>So you just did resistance training.

01:19:45.680 --> 01:19:45.840
<v SPEAKER_00>Exactly.

01:19:46.079 --> 01:19:48.079
<v SPEAKER_00>So but on the other side, sauna.

01:19:48.560 --> 01:19:49.119
<v SPEAKER_01>Sauna.

01:19:49.840 --> 01:19:50.399
<v SPEAKER_01>Go ahead.

01:19:50.560 --> 01:19:53.119
<v SPEAKER_01>Under uh undervalued overvalued.

01:19:53.279 --> 01:19:53.600
<v SPEAKER_01>Oh yeah.

01:19:53.840 --> 01:19:54.399
<v SPEAKER_01>Oh my gosh.

01:19:54.800 --> 01:19:55.279
<v SPEAKER_01>Absolutely.

01:19:55.600 --> 01:20:08.960
<v SPEAKER_00>Like I think, you know, when you look at uh the toxicity issues we've got going on, exercise, sweating, and sauna, like you just have to do these things, amongst a whole lot of other stuff, but that's foundational.

01:20:09.199 --> 01:20:11.840
<v SPEAKER_00>Like look at the four happiest countries in the world.

01:20:12.079 --> 01:20:17.520
<v SPEAKER_00>The happiest, healthiest ones, Iceland, Finland, I think it's Norway and one other Sweden, maybe.

01:20:17.600 --> 01:20:20.560
<v SPEAKER_00>They're all the the ones that they sauna, they spa.

01:20:21.119 --> 01:20:21.840
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, they do.

01:20:21.920 --> 01:20:23.279
<v SPEAKER_01>They do the hot saunas.

01:20:23.359 --> 01:20:24.159
<v SPEAKER_01>Oh, that's a good one.

01:20:24.319 --> 01:20:27.920
<v SPEAKER_01>Do you like infrared saunas better or the spinach sauna?

01:20:29.600 --> 01:20:30.880
<v SPEAKER_00>We have both.

01:20:31.279 --> 01:20:37.359
<v SPEAKER_00>Um I tend to get up in the morning and go in the sunlight and and use that one because I have worked in there.

01:20:37.760 --> 01:20:39.920
<v SPEAKER_00>But then we have the other one, the hot one.

01:20:40.000 --> 01:20:41.199
<v SPEAKER_00>So it depends on my timing.

01:20:41.680 --> 01:20:46.720
<v SPEAKER_01>So I took my sunlight and I added some of these other uh sauna space bulbs.

01:20:46.960 --> 01:20:51.119
<v SPEAKER_01>And so mine, it's probably not it's above it's around 160.

01:20:51.359 --> 01:20:53.039
<v SPEAKER_00>So here's what you get the best of them.

01:20:53.359 --> 01:20:54.159
<v SPEAKER_00>I turn it on early.

01:20:54.319 --> 01:20:54.720
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, I do.

01:20:54.960 --> 01:20:56.800
<v SPEAKER_00>If you let it on for two hours, it gets to 160.

01:20:57.119 --> 01:20:57.520
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, yeah.

01:20:57.600 --> 01:21:02.239
<v SPEAKER_01>And if you put the sauna space bulbs in there, like they want that sauna space, but then I go, this is obscene.

01:21:02.319 --> 01:21:04.000
<v SPEAKER_00>You cannot have two, three saunas in a house.

01:21:04.239 --> 01:21:06.960
<v SPEAKER_01>Well, no, so that I added them to my son like that's great.

01:21:07.199 --> 01:21:09.359
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, so they have that the one that's there.

01:21:09.680 --> 01:21:13.039
<v SPEAKER_01>So I just ran the thing up over over the ring and put it right there.

01:21:13.279 --> 01:21:14.560
<v SPEAKER_01>And I just turn it on when I get in there.

01:21:14.640 --> 01:21:16.159
<v SPEAKER_01>I sit in front of that, I'm drenched.

01:21:16.239 --> 01:21:19.119
<v SPEAKER_01>I I'm probably like 170 because I'm like right in front of it.

01:21:19.279 --> 01:21:19.600
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

01:21:19.840 --> 01:21:20.880
<v SPEAKER_01>So I love that.

01:21:21.279 --> 01:21:21.920
<v SPEAKER_01>Best of both worlds.

01:21:22.960 --> 01:21:26.319
<v SPEAKER_01>Carnivore, undervalued, over overrated.

01:21:26.720 --> 01:21:32.319
<v SPEAKER_00>So I think it actually is a very cool technique for an elimination diet.

01:21:33.039 --> 01:21:34.079
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, I agree.

01:21:34.239 --> 01:21:35.920
<v SPEAKER_01>I don't think you should stay in a carnivore diet.

01:21:36.159 --> 01:21:37.119
<v SPEAKER_00>Not because of microbiome.

01:21:37.359 --> 01:21:40.960
<v SPEAKER_00>Like I'm sorry, I know there's the whole fiber debate, but I'm like, come on.

01:21:41.199 --> 01:21:41.760
<v SPEAKER_00>You know.

01:21:42.079 --> 01:21:55.760
<v SPEAKER_00>So, although I did have Sean Baker on the podcast, and he's very compelling, but I think it's a really cool elimination diet for a brief period of time, but I get concerned about the long-term ramifications without all the polyphenols in the fiber you're getting.

01:21:56.000 --> 01:22:03.680
<v SPEAKER_01>Well, look, I I think every diet, I teach diet variation, the benefits to our microbiome by switching diets, but another story.

01:22:04.079 --> 01:22:09.680
<v SPEAKER_00>Well, oh, but over on like just because a diet works to heal you doesn't mean it's the one you're supposed to be on forever.

01:22:10.079 --> 01:22:10.319
<v SPEAKER_00>Exactly.

01:22:10.720 --> 01:22:10.880
<v SPEAKER_00>Hello?

01:22:11.119 --> 01:22:17.199
<v SPEAKER_00>But people get so like virgin diet is actually a process to figure out which foods work for you and which foods don't.

01:22:17.279 --> 01:22:18.560
<v SPEAKER_00>And people go, Oh, yeah, I've been on that for years.

01:22:18.720 --> 01:22:22.560
<v SPEAKER_00>I go, it it was a it's a process, it's not a thing you're doing.

01:22:22.720 --> 01:22:29.439
<v SPEAKER_01>Well, the problem that I was told what people said, look, I I I would I want to do the virgin diet, but I just can't give up sex.

01:22:30.079 --> 01:22:30.880
<v SPEAKER_01>Never it's not that.

01:22:32.159 --> 01:22:32.479
<v SPEAKER_01>Anyway.

01:22:32.720 --> 01:22:33.600
<v SPEAKER_01>So a little joke.

01:22:33.840 --> 01:22:39.680
<v SPEAKER_01>But anyway, so uh more importantly, um the Oh gosh, I had such a good one.

01:22:39.920 --> 01:22:41.439
<v SPEAKER_01>Oh, psychedelics.

01:22:41.760 --> 01:22:43.279
<v SPEAKER_00>Oh, undervalued.

01:22:43.600 --> 01:22:44.479
<v SPEAKER_01>Undervalued, okay.

01:22:44.960 --> 01:22:45.119
<v SPEAKER_01>All right.

01:22:45.439 --> 01:22:45.600
<v SPEAKER_01>Absolutely.

01:22:45.920 --> 01:22:47.760
<v SPEAKER_00>Well, you're looking at people for trauma, like you know.

01:22:47.840 --> 01:22:47.920
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah.

01:22:48.000 --> 01:22:48.479
<v SPEAKER_00>I mean I think.

01:22:48.640 --> 01:22:50.000
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, yeah, women hug and having fun.

01:22:50.079 --> 01:22:50.880
<v SPEAKER_01>We're talking about brain trauma.

01:22:51.279 --> 01:22:52.000
<v SPEAKER_01>No, that's the challenge.

01:22:52.079 --> 01:22:53.520
<v SPEAKER_00>That's we're not talking about party.

01:22:53.600 --> 01:22:53.840
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah.

01:22:54.000 --> 01:22:55.119
<v SPEAKER_00>We're talking about therapeutic.

01:22:55.439 --> 01:22:55.840
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, yeah.

01:22:55.920 --> 01:22:56.000
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

01:22:56.319 --> 01:22:56.560
<v SPEAKER_01>Of course.

01:22:56.800 --> 01:22:59.760
<v SPEAKER_01>So that said, did you do any of this with your son?

01:23:00.079 --> 01:23:00.239
<v SPEAKER_01>Yes.

01:23:00.399 --> 01:23:06.479
<v SPEAKER_00>Not my well, yes, with my I actually did a family healing ceremony with my ex-husband and two sons.

01:23:06.720 --> 01:23:16.319
<v SPEAKER_00>And then I also did some stuff with my young son who got to see his brother laid out on a hospital gurney with, you know, glass and brain injury and a whole bit.

01:23:16.399 --> 01:23:17.039
<v SPEAKER_00>So yes.

01:23:17.359 --> 01:23:17.680
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah.

01:23:17.840 --> 01:23:19.039
<v SPEAKER_00>Otherwise, you know.

01:23:19.680 --> 01:23:21.920
<v SPEAKER_01>What one this just popped in my head.

01:23:22.560 --> 01:23:26.560
<v SPEAKER_01>Out of everything you've done for Grant, what do you think had the greatest impact?

01:23:26.720 --> 01:23:29.199
<v SPEAKER_01>It's probably hard to answer, and you might have a couple of things.

01:23:29.359 --> 01:23:29.920
<v SPEAKER_01>Okay, great.

01:23:30.800 --> 01:23:44.319
<v SPEAKER_00>He knows that we will do anything for him, that we love him unconditionally, and no matter what, like when you go through something like that, you know how loved you are, and that is the most important.

01:23:44.800 --> 01:23:51.920
<v SPEAKER_01>How did it change you as a person from you know, spiritual, emotional, your soul's perspective?

01:23:52.640 --> 01:23:54.720
<v SPEAKER_00>So I don't know that it changed me.

01:23:54.880 --> 01:23:57.039
<v SPEAKER_00>I just think it made me more of who I am.

01:23:57.279 --> 01:23:57.760
<v SPEAKER_00>I can't do it.

01:23:59.840 --> 01:24:01.760
<v SPEAKER_01>You feel brought you closer to your true identity.

01:24:02.000 --> 01:24:05.520
<v SPEAKER_00>Like I just it just, you know, these things reveal who you are.

01:24:05.760 --> 01:24:07.840
<v SPEAKER_00>You're not going to become someone different.

01:24:08.000 --> 01:24:08.640
<v SPEAKER_00>I don't believe.

01:24:08.720 --> 01:24:19.039
<v SPEAKER_01>I think we have we are who we are, you know, and it just But sometimes we have false identities, false beliefs that shed some of those off and brought out more of the way.

01:24:19.359 --> 01:24:23.760
<v SPEAKER_00>I just know that, you know, I remember early on I was pregnant with Grant.

01:24:23.840 --> 01:24:29.039
<v SPEAKER_00>I was walking in Santa Monica through a back alley, you know, to get to s a parking structure.

01:24:29.119 --> 01:24:32.800
<v SPEAKER_00>And these two like totally hoodie dudes started walking towards me.

01:24:32.880 --> 01:24:35.600
<v SPEAKER_00>And I remember just looking at them going, Come near me, I'm gonna kill you.

01:24:36.079 --> 01:24:36.640
<v SPEAKER_00>I'm gonna kill you.

01:24:36.960 --> 01:24:39.199
<v SPEAKER_00>You come near me in this baby, you are dead.

01:24:39.680 --> 01:24:40.079
<v SPEAKER_00>You know?

01:24:40.560 --> 01:24:47.279
<v SPEAKER_00>And uh there's been no doubt in my mind that like I will do whatever it takes to protect my kids.

01:24:47.520 --> 01:24:50.319
<v SPEAKER_00>And uh that just was like another example of it.

01:24:50.399 --> 01:24:55.520
<v SPEAKER_00>Like my kids, like I'm you know, I'm a fierce warrior mom, mama bear.

01:24:55.680 --> 01:24:57.439
<v SPEAKER_00>Like, don't mess with my kids.

01:24:58.479 --> 01:25:00.720
<v SPEAKER_01>Wow, yeah, I I wouldn't mess with her anyway.

01:25:01.600 --> 01:25:04.159
<v SPEAKER_01>Um yeah, yeah, no way, no way.

01:25:04.239 --> 01:25:06.560
<v SPEAKER_01>Those doctors were probably like shaking in their boots.

01:25:06.880 --> 01:25:10.079
<v SPEAKER_00>Oh, well, so here's what's funny because they'd go, Oh god, she's back.

01:25:10.399 --> 01:25:13.840
<v SPEAKER_00>And my ex-husband would walk in, they're like, Goody's there.

01:25:14.079 --> 01:25:16.800
<v SPEAKER_00>You know, he's like, he's like the calm, sweet, kind of.

01:25:17.199 --> 01:25:19.119
<v SPEAKER_00>This would be the way it would be for my wife now, yeah.

01:25:19.359 --> 01:25:21.359
<v SPEAKER_00>And they're like, oh shoot, here she is again.

01:25:21.920 --> 01:25:23.439
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, that would be the same.

01:25:23.520 --> 01:25:26.720
<v SPEAKER_01>My wife would be like, you know, like she's a little more intense.

01:25:26.800 --> 01:25:33.119
<v SPEAKER_01>I handle things a little more nicely, but yet I'm still heading to the direction I want to take you, you know, with my son here.

01:25:33.279 --> 01:25:35.760
<v SPEAKER_01>But yeah, yeah, no doubt about it.

01:25:36.079 --> 01:25:36.560
<v SPEAKER_01>All right.

01:25:36.720 --> 01:25:56.000
<v SPEAKER_01>Um is there anything that you like is going on right now in the health space that you feel is way overrated, and you feel it's going to, you know, backfire perhaps, or what I do feel like is there's unnecessary wars, and there's always has been.

01:25:56.399 --> 01:26:03.439
<v SPEAKER_00>You know, like in the exercise world, there was always the wars between the yoga people, the resistance training people, and the cardio people.

01:26:03.520 --> 01:26:04.960
<v SPEAKER_00>And then the diet space.

01:26:05.359 --> 01:26:09.279
<v SPEAKER_00>Oh my gosh, it's like all these different religions, and it's vegans versus carnivores.

01:26:09.359 --> 01:26:12.479
<v SPEAKER_00>And I'm like, everybody's right, you know, in the marketplace of free ideas.

01:26:12.800 --> 01:26:20.159
<v SPEAKER_00>And now I feel like there's this big war between the health influencers and the scientists, and I go, Do you not understand that everybody is needed here?

01:26:20.319 --> 01:26:20.640
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah.

01:26:20.800 --> 01:26:24.319
<v SPEAKER_01>Like that Exactly, you know, scientists can't communicate.

01:26:24.399 --> 01:26:25.199
<v SPEAKER_01>We have to get your stuff off.

01:26:25.600 --> 01:26:26.319
<v SPEAKER_01>Well, here's the reality.

01:26:26.479 --> 01:26:32.079
<v SPEAKER_00>Like when I was in grad school, I was learning things in grad school, and then I was actually using them in the real world.

01:26:32.239 --> 01:26:36.159
<v SPEAKER_00>And some of the stuff made a ton of sense, and some of the stuff didn't work whatsoever.

01:26:36.399 --> 01:26:49.359
<v SPEAKER_00>And so you look at it and go, everybody needs to be in this ecosystem because there's stuff in the bro science that actually needs to be studied, and there's stuff that's being studied that's that would never work in the real world anyway.

01:26:49.520 --> 01:26:51.520
<v SPEAKER_00>So it's like everyone needs to get along.

01:26:51.600 --> 01:26:58.239
<v SPEAKER_00>And I the insults and the crap that people throw out, like I just it just is so awful and icky.

01:26:58.640 --> 01:27:01.199
<v SPEAKER_00>So that's the piece I can't, like, I just can't stand it.

01:27:01.439 --> 01:27:02.479
<v SPEAKER_01>I don't yeah.

01:27:02.640 --> 01:27:04.319
<v SPEAKER_01>I just I just don't partake in it.

01:27:04.479 --> 01:27:07.840
<v SPEAKER_01>I just I just you know, I am who I am, you're who you are.

01:27:08.159 --> 01:27:17.840
<v SPEAKER_00>The whole yeah, that whole thing, like so that's the that's the piece that I think is is just silly and ridiculous, is just m you know, mean name-calling, crappy garbage.

01:27:18.159 --> 01:27:24.399
<v SPEAKER_00>I you know, there you do need to have like, you know, please have some science.

01:27:24.720 --> 01:27:27.680
<v SPEAKER_00>Take a c you know, like there does need to be that.

01:27:28.159 --> 01:27:30.640
<v SPEAKER_00>There needs to be accountability in there, etc.

01:27:31.279 --> 01:27:38.560
<v SPEAKER_00>Um, but you know, there is a pretty narrow focus when you're in a PhD place just focusing on one thing.

01:27:38.800 --> 01:27:51.199
<v SPEAKER_00>And if you've taken a lot of different classes and done a lot of different things and be been out working in the real world for decades, you have uh an experience that that's really unique that allows you to see a lot of different things.

01:27:51.359 --> 01:27:52.479
<v SPEAKER_00>So it's all valuable.

01:27:52.720 --> 01:27:53.680
<v SPEAKER_00>Every we need all of it.

01:27:54.159 --> 01:27:55.439
<v SPEAKER_01>What's your next big goal?

01:27:55.600 --> 01:27:56.720
<v SPEAKER_00>I'll end with that.

01:27:57.439 --> 01:27:59.840
<v SPEAKER_00>Oh, my next big goal is really with this book.

01:28:00.159 --> 01:28:00.560
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah.

01:28:00.880 --> 01:28:10.159
<v SPEAKER_00>Um this book getting women to ditch the traditional scale, focus on what their weight's made up of, get resistance training going, get on creatine.

01:28:10.319 --> 01:28:12.399
<v SPEAKER_01>Um that's great.

01:28:12.560 --> 01:28:13.279
<v SPEAKER_01>I love creatine.

01:28:13.520 --> 01:28:14.479
<v SPEAKER_01>And I'm getting attacked on creatine.

01:28:14.720 --> 01:28:16.159
<v SPEAKER_01>For more than just muscle, the brain.

01:28:16.399 --> 01:28:16.720
<v SPEAKER_01>Oh yeah.

01:28:16.880 --> 01:28:17.359
<v SPEAKER_01>No, no, no.

01:28:17.439 --> 01:28:18.159
<v SPEAKER_01>I I brain.

01:28:18.479 --> 01:28:23.359
<v SPEAKER_00>Well, because of the because I've been promoting HCL as opposed to monohydrate.

01:28:23.600 --> 01:28:25.359
<v SPEAKER_00>Because once I I was at a competition.

01:28:25.680 --> 01:28:26.239
<v SPEAKER_01>I do both.

01:28:26.399 --> 01:28:29.680
<v SPEAKER_01>I I I just, you know, monohydrate is.

01:28:30.560 --> 01:28:30.800
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah.

01:28:31.119 --> 01:28:32.560
<v SPEAKER_00>However, for women.

01:28:33.119 --> 01:28:34.159
<v SPEAKER_01>You like the HCL for the colour.

01:28:34.319 --> 01:28:35.279
<v SPEAKER_00>I'll tell you why.

01:28:35.600 --> 01:28:39.359
<v SPEAKER_00>Um so I started digging into creatine, and here's the reality.

01:28:39.520 --> 01:28:44.399
<v SPEAKER_00>I never used creatine because when I was a Gold Shim in Venice, all the guys used creatine and they were big.

01:28:44.640 --> 01:28:45.680
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, I don't want to look like them.

01:28:45.840 --> 01:28:47.439
<v SPEAKER_00>And I was like, I don't want to look like them.

01:28:47.760 --> 01:28:50.399
<v SPEAKER_00>Of course, they were also on steroids.

01:28:50.640 --> 01:28:55.279
<v SPEAKER_00>So, you know, a couple years ago, I'm like looking at this, going, How have I missed this?

01:28:55.520 --> 01:28:56.479
<v SPEAKER_00>How'd I miss this?

01:28:56.640 --> 01:28:57.680
<v SPEAKER_00>This makes so much sense.

01:28:57.840 --> 01:29:01.199
<v SPEAKER_00>It's brain, bone, skin immune system.

01:29:01.359 --> 01:29:05.760
<v SPEAKER_00>Like you start to unpack and you're like, creating brain, bone, skin immune system.

01:29:06.000 --> 01:29:06.319
<v SPEAKER_01>Boom.

01:29:06.640 --> 01:29:07.760
<v SPEAKER_00>But here's the other cool thing.

01:29:07.920 --> 01:29:11.680
<v SPEAKER_00>So our body makes about a gram a day from methionine, arginine, glycine.

01:29:12.079 --> 01:29:19.199
<v SPEAKER_00>So you need another gram or so, depending on if you're under stress, you know, what what else is going on from diet.

01:29:19.359 --> 01:29:22.239
<v SPEAKER_00>Now you've got this whole plant-based push, they're not getting it.

01:29:22.479 --> 01:29:24.399
<v SPEAKER_00>It comes from meat, right?

01:29:24.720 --> 01:29:37.199
<v SPEAKER_00>And unless someone's eating a pound of rare or raw or two pounds of cooked, they're not even getting that gram, much less extra if they're under stress, if they've got any dementia, if any of the other things.

01:29:37.439 --> 01:29:42.079
<v SPEAKER_00>And so I'm looking at this going, this is like the ultimate thing for women because women are definitely not getting that.

01:29:42.159 --> 01:29:45.600
<v SPEAKER_00>We're not getting enough protein, much less getting the creatine from it.

01:29:46.079 --> 01:29:48.239
<v SPEAKER_00>And so I started recommending it to everybody.

01:29:48.399 --> 01:29:51.840
<v SPEAKER_00>I was like, you gotta be on this because the research is really compelling.

01:29:52.800 --> 01:30:00.720
<v SPEAKER_00>And I was doing what I know better than doing, which was just parroting what I was hearing out there, which is you need to use monohydrate because it's the most researched.

01:30:01.119 --> 01:30:02.000
<v SPEAKER_00>Here's the reality.

01:30:03.039 --> 01:30:09.439
<v SPEAKER_00>The monohydrate is the the way that you're carrying this, but there's and there's a variety of different types you can use.

01:30:10.079 --> 01:30:18.640
<v SPEAKER_00>They're looking at the creatine in the tissue, not uh the monohydrate, the HL, it's the creatine in the tissue that they're paying attention to to see what difference it makes.

01:30:18.960 --> 01:30:25.039
<v SPEAKER_00>We know that creatine helps you make regenerate ATP, so it's going to give you more brain energy, more body energy.

01:30:25.520 --> 01:30:27.199
<v SPEAKER_00>So that's what they're looking at.

01:30:27.920 --> 01:30:33.039
<v SPEAKER_00>And it doesn't matter what the carrier is, it matters how much is in the tissue.

01:30:33.279 --> 01:30:41.199
<v SPEAKER_00>So I'm telling everyone to take creatine monohydrate, and I'm getting more backlash off this than any supplement I've recommended in 30 years.

01:30:41.600 --> 01:30:48.720
<v SPEAKER_00>Women are they're like, I'm going off it, I'm gaining weight, I don't, I feel bloated, I'm and I'm like, uh, just it'll be fine.

01:30:48.800 --> 01:30:49.600
<v SPEAKER_00>Just go through it.

01:30:49.840 --> 01:30:51.680
<v SPEAKER_00>It'll be gone in like a couple weeks.

01:30:51.840 --> 01:30:53.279
<v SPEAKER_00>No, women will not do that.

01:30:54.319 --> 01:30:55.840
<v SPEAKER_00>So that is where I started.

01:30:55.920 --> 01:30:56.880
<v SPEAKER_00>It was it was interesting.

01:30:56.960 --> 01:31:01.920
<v SPEAKER_00>I was at a medical conference, and this guy who created the HCL version came up and he said, Hey, I created this.

01:31:02.000 --> 01:31:04.960
<v SPEAKER_00>I'm like, Yeah, well, I'm sure that's just marketing because that's what I've heard.

01:31:05.359 --> 01:31:07.439
<v SPEAKER_00>And he's like, I I'll show you the research.

01:31:07.520 --> 01:31:09.279
<v SPEAKER_00>I go, Great, I'm critically open-minded.

01:31:09.359 --> 01:31:11.439
<v SPEAKER_00>So I literally went to his plant in Nebraska.

01:31:11.600 --> 01:31:16.319
<v SPEAKER_00>He actually makes this in the US, which is super cool because most of the stuff is not made in the US.

01:31:16.640 --> 01:31:23.600
<v SPEAKER_00>So made in the US, he did the um absorption studies on creatine HCL versus monohydrate.

01:31:24.000 --> 01:31:28.720
<v SPEAKER_00>And this whole thing where they say it's 100% absorbed, what's 100% absorbed?

01:31:29.039 --> 01:31:32.399
<v SPEAKER_00>And you know, with solubility, the more you use, the less the solubility.

01:31:32.560 --> 01:31:34.880
<v SPEAKER_00>So they did it with very low doses.

01:31:35.199 --> 01:31:40.079
<v SPEAKER_00>So when he did this, he showed 15% absorption of creatine monohydrate, which is fine.

01:31:40.159 --> 01:31:42.399
<v SPEAKER_00>That's why you need to use three to five to ten grams.

01:31:43.039 --> 01:31:48.159
<v SPEAKER_00>If you need a gram a day and they're telling you to take five grams, why are they telling you five grams if you need a gram?

01:31:48.239 --> 01:31:49.680
<v SPEAKER_00>Because it doesn't get absorbed well.

01:31:49.760 --> 01:31:50.640
<v SPEAKER_00>It's there's the math.

01:31:50.720 --> 01:31:52.399
<v SPEAKER_00>I'm like going, there's the math, right?

01:31:52.880 --> 01:31:59.119
<v SPEAKER_00>So what he discovered is by using HCL, he could get it seven times more absorbed, like 85%.

01:31:59.600 --> 01:32:00.800
<v SPEAKER_00>So you could use less.

01:32:00.960 --> 01:32:06.239
<v SPEAKER_00>And because you could use less, you didn't have some of that extracellular issues that people were complaining about.

01:32:06.720 --> 01:32:11.760
<v SPEAKER_01>So women get less bloating symptoms with the HCL which I've been told.

01:32:11.920 --> 01:32:15.920
<v SPEAKER_01>And uh I have I had a a woman switch over.

01:32:16.399 --> 01:32:20.640
<v SPEAKER_01>I maybe I I watched one of your things, I said, just try this, and it worked for her.

01:32:21.039 --> 01:32:21.359
<v SPEAKER_00>Yay.

01:32:21.520 --> 01:32:22.159
<v SPEAKER_00>But that's the thing.

01:32:22.239 --> 01:32:23.039
<v SPEAKER_00>That's why I looked at it.

01:32:23.119 --> 01:32:24.960
<v SPEAKER_00>I go, women will not go through that.

01:32:25.199 --> 01:32:30.159
<v SPEAKER_00>And I just got called out on this, but there is a study uh in pre-publication.

01:32:30.319 --> 01:32:40.800
<v SPEAKER_00>I just was like, I shouldn't even talk about it, but someone's like, she's anyway, that shows that 76% of people tend to get these symptoms from this, and it is just because a lot of it's not being absorbed.

01:32:41.119 --> 01:32:43.920
<v SPEAKER_00>Now, if it works for you, you don't have it, and you want to go through that, it's fine.

01:32:44.000 --> 01:32:44.800
<v SPEAKER_00>It's still working.

01:32:44.880 --> 01:32:46.560
<v SPEAKER_00>You just have to use a higher dose of it.

01:32:46.880 --> 01:33:00.800
<v SPEAKER_00>But when you start to look at the dosing you need to get for your brain, which is basically two to four times the amount, or for jet lag, sleep deprivation, et cetera, and then you start to look at also what you'd want for bro for muscle or for um bone, it's about twice as much.

01:33:00.960 --> 01:33:04.319
<v SPEAKER_00>Now you're getting into doses that's gonna cause more of that.

01:33:04.560 --> 01:33:06.960
<v SPEAKER_00>So that's where I switched it over.

01:33:07.199 --> 01:33:08.399
<v SPEAKER_00>And that's why I'm excited about it.

01:33:08.479 --> 01:33:12.720
<v SPEAKER_01>Now Yeah, so I was gonna ask you the dose, but uh the dose of HCl versus mono.

01:33:12.960 --> 01:33:13.279
<v SPEAKER_01>What do you think?

01:33:13.520 --> 01:33:22.319
<v SPEAKER_00>It's like a hundred and uh you can use uh 750 to milligrams to one gram of HCL is a good foundational dose.

01:33:22.720 --> 01:33:24.720
<v SPEAKER_01>Whereas you have to use at least five grams.

01:33:25.039 --> 01:33:25.199
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

01:33:26.319 --> 01:33:31.760
<v SPEAKER_00>So and then as you're dosing it, I find I think most of us need to be taking more.

01:33:32.000 --> 01:33:37.840
<v SPEAKER_00>I made one and I put taurine and magnesium with it because it all made sense because of what they do for ATP.

01:33:38.319 --> 01:33:43.680
<v SPEAKER_00>Um and I made it so that someone could take four times the amount, but you just feel it in your brain.

01:33:44.079 --> 01:33:45.760
<v SPEAKER_00>Like I use it whenever I've done it.

01:33:45.920 --> 01:33:49.119
<v SPEAKER_01>So you're saying take double, triple, quadruple the dose?

01:33:49.359 --> 01:33:49.920
<v SPEAKER_01>Triple.

01:33:53.600 --> 01:33:53.840
<v SPEAKER_00>Uh-huh.

01:33:54.079 --> 01:33:56.399
<v SPEAKER_00>And just see tell see how your brain does.

01:33:56.560 --> 01:34:03.279
<v SPEAKER_00>If it's a day where you're under more stress, if it's a day when you're time zone adjusting, it's huge for time zone and sleep deprivation.

01:34:03.439 --> 01:34:03.600
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

01:34:03.760 --> 01:34:04.880
<v SPEAKER_00>Like so that's super cool.

01:34:05.199 --> 01:34:05.760
<v SPEAKER_01>Wow, yeah.

01:34:05.840 --> 01:34:07.680
<v SPEAKER_01>So I um I take creatine.

01:34:07.760 --> 01:34:08.960
<v SPEAKER_01>It's one of the things people always ask me.

01:34:09.119 --> 01:34:09.680
<v SPEAKER_01>What do you always say?

01:34:09.760 --> 01:34:11.279
<v SPEAKER_01>Um I I I always take creatine.

01:34:11.520 --> 01:34:12.960
<v SPEAKER_00>Because creatine's orthomolecular.

01:34:13.039 --> 01:34:16.079
<v SPEAKER_00>Like when you look at supplements, I always start with food.

01:34:16.239 --> 01:34:18.560
<v SPEAKER_00>And then what am I not getting enough of from food?

01:34:19.119 --> 01:34:19.680
<v SPEAKER_00>D3.

01:34:20.319 --> 01:34:24.960
<v SPEAKER_00>You know, maybe fish oils, although I tend to eat a lot of fish, so I'm kind of backing down off that.

01:34:25.520 --> 01:34:27.439
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, I prefer fish, not fish oil.

01:34:28.079 --> 01:34:31.039
<v SPEAKER_00>Magnesium, you know, unless in and then creatine.

01:34:31.119 --> 01:34:33.359
<v SPEAKER_00>These are things we're not probably getting from our food.

01:34:33.600 --> 01:34:37.119
<v SPEAKER_00>We're not, unless you're a carnivore, you don't need creatine if you're a carnivore.

01:34:37.279 --> 01:34:37.439
<v SPEAKER_00>You know?

01:34:37.680 --> 01:34:37.840
<v SPEAKER_00>True.

01:34:38.000 --> 01:34:39.680
<v SPEAKER_00>But most women are not carnivores.

01:34:40.000 --> 01:34:47.520
<v SPEAKER_01>And I would argue that most women, especially going through perimenopause, menopause, they're s n absolutely lacking protein in general.

01:34:47.840 --> 01:34:48.079
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

01:34:48.239 --> 01:34:49.279
<v SPEAKER_01>I mean, just in general.

01:34:49.439 --> 01:34:51.359
<v SPEAKER_01>When you analyze what they're actually eating.

01:34:51.439 --> 01:34:53.920
<v SPEAKER_01>Now with the intermittent fasting, we didn't even get there.

01:34:54.159 --> 01:34:57.359
<v SPEAKER_01>But um, I think that people are really getting protein deficient.

01:34:57.439 --> 01:35:02.399
<v SPEAKER_01>I listen, I'm a fan of fasting, but the problem is is people are fasting now too much and incorrectly.

01:35:02.560 --> 01:35:03.439
<v SPEAKER_01>It's a stress.

01:35:03.600 --> 01:35:06.960
<v SPEAKER_01>And if you know you're doing too much of it, there's a big problem.

01:35:07.279 --> 01:35:09.920
<v SPEAKER_00>It's like if you're one meal a day, there's definitely a problem here.

01:35:10.319 --> 01:35:12.079
<v SPEAKER_01>We have a friend who has one meal a day of it that we know.

01:35:12.239 --> 01:35:12.399
<v SPEAKER_01>I know.

01:35:12.880 --> 01:35:15.359
<v SPEAKER_01>Both of us are on both sides going, stop it.

01:35:16.399 --> 01:35:17.840
<v SPEAKER_01>You need to put feast days in.

01:35:17.920 --> 01:35:19.119
<v SPEAKER_01>You have to start feasting.

01:35:19.279 --> 01:35:22.399
<v SPEAKER_00>You're you know, like we had caloric variability in the wild.

01:35:22.479 --> 01:35:23.279
<v SPEAKER_00>We did not eat exactly.

01:35:23.520 --> 01:35:24.159
<v SPEAKER_00>That's what I say.

01:35:24.479 --> 01:35:30.399
<v SPEAKER_01>I'm like, look, I'm all for fast days, but I'm even bigger on feast days if you're going to do fast days, anyways.

01:35:30.479 --> 01:35:30.800
<v SPEAKER_01>That's all.

01:35:31.119 --> 01:35:32.399
<v SPEAKER_01>We didn't have conversations.

01:35:32.880 --> 01:35:33.359
<v SPEAKER_01>So many things.

01:35:33.600 --> 01:35:34.560
<v SPEAKER_01>But I mean, don't you see it?

01:35:34.800 --> 01:35:36.720
<v SPEAKER_01>I I always say I can see them now, right?

01:35:36.880 --> 01:35:40.720
<v SPEAKER_01>Like at the conferences, those are they're fasting too much, right?

01:35:40.800 --> 01:35:47.039
<v SPEAKER_01>It's just the body goes into starvation mode, they start losing muscle, they start gaining fat, even though they're doing all this muscle.

01:35:47.439 --> 01:35:52.159
<v SPEAKER_00>I mean, look at your cortisol's up, you've got more cortisol receptors around your belly, you're dropping muscle.

01:35:52.319 --> 01:35:54.159
<v SPEAKER_00>So guess where the fat is.

01:35:54.479 --> 01:35:54.720
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah.

01:35:55.119 --> 01:35:55.359
<v SPEAKER_00>Exactly.

01:35:55.840 --> 01:35:58.399
<v SPEAKER_00>That's this way to re-recomp the wrong way.

01:35:58.640 --> 01:35:59.279
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, I know.

01:35:59.600 --> 01:36:09.680
<v SPEAKER_00>So this is what we don't want to do, especially in a time when, you know, perimenopause, estrogen going down, cortisol going up, becoming insulin resistant, and then you add that into the mix.

01:36:09.920 --> 01:36:10.079
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah.

01:36:10.239 --> 01:36:11.439
<v SPEAKER_00>It's a messy, messy time.

01:36:11.600 --> 01:36:13.520
<v SPEAKER_00>When you're in menopause, it's a totally different situation.

01:36:14.079 --> 01:36:16.880
<v SPEAKER_01>We won't the the the Ozempic thing, right?

01:36:16.960 --> 01:36:23.199
<v SPEAKER_01>We have people doing all this and fasting and Ozempic, and now we have Ozempic face, Ozempic butt and all the things.

01:36:23.520 --> 01:36:26.079
<v SPEAKER_00>I mean, that's just bad diet, but although there's it's interesting.

01:36:26.159 --> 01:36:28.720
<v SPEAKER_00>I think I think microdosing, I love I love Dr.

01:36:28.880 --> 01:36:29.520
<v SPEAKER_00>Tina Moore's.

01:36:30.159 --> 01:36:31.600
<v SPEAKER_01>That was one of my things I would say undervalued.

01:36:32.159 --> 01:36:32.640
<v SPEAKER_01>You think it's good.

01:36:32.880 --> 01:36:37.119
<v SPEAKER_00>I think it's yeah, I think that's I'm probably gonna I disagree on that with you, but okay.

01:36:37.199 --> 01:36:46.159
<v SPEAKER_00>That's uh well I think we've got a big uh issue with people who are GLP1 resistant and you know whether it's But these are microbiome problems, right?

01:36:46.399 --> 01:36:47.520
<v SPEAKER_00>I mean ultimately right.

01:36:47.600 --> 01:36:53.039
<v SPEAKER_00>So if you can do something to help them as they're going through it, but if you look at like I have my son on a low dose of GLP1.

01:36:53.600 --> 01:36:54.479
<v SPEAKER_00>Game changer.

01:36:55.680 --> 01:36:56.720
<v SPEAKER_00>Huge for neurodegeneration.

01:36:57.039 --> 01:37:00.239
<v SPEAKER_01>No doubt people feel like go, oh my gosh, why?

01:37:00.479 --> 01:37:01.600
<v SPEAKER_01>Because they're GLP1.

01:37:02.000 --> 01:37:05.840
<v SPEAKER_00>Well, but if you look at some of the other things, there's GLP1 receptors all over the body.

01:37:06.000 --> 01:37:09.680
<v SPEAKER_00>Inflammation is a huge thing, osteoarthritis, autoimmune.

01:37:09.920 --> 01:37:14.800
<v SPEAKER_00>You look at what happens with autoimmune disease and women postmenopausal, it's insane.

01:37:15.039 --> 01:37:16.479
<v SPEAKER_00>It's like four out of five.

01:37:16.880 --> 01:37:23.840
<v SPEAKER_01>You know, I mean, but you're always battling the thing of now you're giving the hormone and it s uh slows stops eventually the body's production.

01:37:23.920 --> 01:37:28.159
<v SPEAKER_01>I agree, microdosing it takes longer, but they're still going to face the same problem.

01:37:28.800 --> 01:37:30.399
<v SPEAKER_00>It it necessarily does.

01:37:30.720 --> 01:37:31.279
<v SPEAKER_00>But here's the thing.

01:37:31.760 --> 01:37:33.119
<v SPEAKER_01>They still battle coming off of it.

01:37:33.199 --> 01:37:38.479
<v SPEAKER_01>I know people, right, that we're doing the microdose, and uh every time they stop, they start gaining weight again.

01:37:38.720 --> 01:37:40.560
<v SPEAKER_01>It's like there is that, right?

01:37:40.640 --> 01:37:44.800
<v SPEAKER_00>I mean then they're not doing what they need to be doing, which is all the other stuff.

01:37:45.039 --> 01:37:57.199
<v SPEAKER_00>You would not be able to use those unless you were doing the body composition assessment, resistance training, getting in your meat, eating your protein with your vegetables, doing all the things, right?

01:37:57.439 --> 01:38:10.319
<v SPEAKER_00>And then you would use the least, slowest minimal effective dose to help with what you needed, and then look at other things you need to do as you were going through it to help with insulin sensitivity, lowering inflammation, all the things.

01:38:10.560 --> 01:38:13.920
<v SPEAKER_01>I could have we have you on again because there's just so much fun.

01:38:14.079 --> 01:38:16.399
<v SPEAKER_01>When you have when you get your book done, we're gonna have you.

01:38:16.880 --> 01:38:21.039
<v SPEAKER_00>The book is uh all we're doing now is editing January June 9th, 2026.

01:38:21.279 --> 01:38:22.000
<v SPEAKER_00>That's when it's out.

01:38:22.159 --> 01:38:22.960
<v SPEAKER_00>All right, there it is.

01:38:23.039 --> 01:38:24.640
<v SPEAKER_01>The big You promise you'll come back.

01:38:24.720 --> 01:38:25.359
<v SPEAKER_01>We're gonna have you back.

01:38:26.000 --> 01:38:27.920
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, because Tim just told me you wanted to come back and ski.

01:38:28.319 --> 01:38:29.039
<v SPEAKER_01>Oh yeah, yeah.

01:38:29.119 --> 01:38:31.840
<v SPEAKER_01>It's different here in the summer than it is the winter.

01:38:31.920 --> 01:38:34.880
<v SPEAKER_01>I mean, I love the summers, but winter brings a whole different thing.

01:38:35.199 --> 01:38:35.760
<v SPEAKER_00>I love the summers.

01:38:35.920 --> 01:38:37.760
<v SPEAKER_00>I'm like, I'll come in just not ski.

01:38:37.840 --> 01:38:40.319
<v SPEAKER_00>So I'll come not ski, and we've got plenty of friends here.

01:38:40.479 --> 01:38:41.039
<v SPEAKER_00>You can ski.

01:38:41.199 --> 01:38:42.159
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, that's awesome.

01:38:42.319 --> 01:38:42.640
<v SPEAKER_01>All right.

01:38:42.720 --> 01:38:44.159
<v SPEAKER_01>Well, wasn't that awesome?

01:38:44.399 --> 01:38:44.960
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01:38:45.520 --> 01:38:46.800
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01:38:46.880 --> 01:38:47.520
<v SPEAKER_01>Tell them your pages.

01:38:47.840 --> 01:38:48.960
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01:38:49.039 --> 01:38:49.199
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

01:38:49.600 --> 01:38:51.600
<v SPEAKER_00>Everything and my Well Beyond 40 podcast.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That are do we have you scheduled for that?

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<v SPEAKER_00>No, but we will.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You have to come out to Tampa.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Well beyond 40.

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<v SPEAKER_01>We're we're both well beyond 40.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Well, we're well double entendre.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Hey, amen.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Awesome.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Thank you.

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<v SPEAKER_01>This, I tell you, her Instagram page, great stuff.

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<v SPEAKER_01>More on these topics, right?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Just like the creatine thing.

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<v SPEAKER_01>There's a lot about that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I have some Shiatine for you.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We just cover the S or you give it to Marilee, but you cover your S and it becomes hiatine.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Oh, I love it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Tim named it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I love it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Anyways, wealth of knowledge.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Wealth of knowledge.

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<v SPEAKER_01>People need this information.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I mean, just yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Thank you so much for coming here.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Thank you for joining.

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