TGI - Episode 118 “It’s a Wonderful Night”

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Speaker 1: So I'm very excited because we're here in Las Vegas recording this and I have a massage scheduled for later and I don't get yeah, I don't care him any a year, but man, I love him. Nightmare nightmare. Getting a massage is a nightmare. Las Vegas is a nightmare both. But no, get yeah, me hitting a massage in vain. He literally just described my like my, hell um, yeah, I hate massages. I can't stand I don't know, I don't I can't relax people touching me and like trying to like push my muscles and like no, I get more tense and more uptight. I had one time I had one time I had a haircut that turned into a head massage, you know sometimes they do that. I was like, oh my god. It lasted like, I mean maybe fifteen minutes, but it felt like, you know, an hour and a half of like because I was like, what are we doing? What you know, you're rubbing my scalp? Is this a thing? And it was like it wouldn't stop, and I was like stop this, you know, you know, I think maybe like he noticed how uncomfortable I was and finally gave it up. But it was like, oh no, I just get so uncomfortable when people are like, yeah, rubbing me, and it's just like, no, man, yeah I am no Jensen. Jensen also doesn't like massages, and my makeup artist Julie doesn't like massages, and I just not either. Yeah. I just can't imagine what there isn't absolutely love about it. I agree. It's like, you do you get the fifty minute massage and you're like, I should have gotten the ninety minute massage. You never get a fifty minutes if you're gonna do it, do thee because fifty minutes by the time you start to like really sink into a sleep, they're like and it's over, and you're like, wait, I'm not quite done yet. Yeah, I know I love massages. Good for you, will, Congratulations. What are you going to do with the rest of your day? Writer? Work? Girls? Gonna rights? Can? I can? I have a weird thing I want to talk about. Um And I don't know where this is coming from, but I um, I have found that there is a direct correlation between the older I'm getting makes me change the superpower I wish I had? Does anybody else have? This? Is this just me? Wait? This is along with the underwear you change on the flights outward boundary, like whether you're Captain America or the Hulk or what if the Hulk? No, who flies in Hulk underwear? It's America Chiltern's underwear. It's not children to underwear. I wear an adult husky. Okay, So let's not even start about the children. What superpower? I mean, is this your kid? You know, the conversation you have, like if you could have any superhea. So we had an episode of our show where where we're talking about what which superhero dad a show called Boy Meets World. When they were children, they do it about their podcasts, they do, Yes, they are still This discussion should still happen. They talk about older it. Does you know what change when I got older? I stopped thinking about did you? That's a shame. That's a shame. I know. I'm just kidding. Let's try to guess. Will you used to want to fly? Yeah? Don't? Yes? Yes, now you want invisibility. I think that's kind of where I was going to go. But I don't know. I don't know if Will would want invisibility. I think I know he's the mayor of the co exactly. He wants to be seen, he wants to be I think it might be super speed. Well I go now most people would say I already have that, but that's a whole different podcast. Um. No. I when I was a kid, you want to fly or you want invisibility. As I'm getting older, I now want the power of time. Oh, just a longer life. I don't know if that's it, or if it's being able to slow down moments that I'm trying to save her more or speed up moments that so super speed if you could move, No, because there's time, want to slow it all down where it's like just make a night last forever, like encapsulate a moment, like you know when Sue and I have some great nights the other moments together. It's like I could live in this moment at least now indefinitely, and I'd love to have that power of Like and when you have children, you guys made that mistake, so I have to imagine that with your kids. There's gotta be a moment where you're like, I wish this moment right here, Like Danielle, you you said that you you texted us not too long ago. One of the cutest things about how Ad was talking about the sprinklers were just fake rain, fake rain, fake rain. Yeah, kind of something where you want to go like, I just want to hold onto that moment for a little while and it's yeah, but then it would lose its But that the point is that it's fleeting. Man. Maybe the Great Walls Stevens wrote death is the mother of beauty, and I completely agree with that. It's like the only reason that life has values because because it ends, it ends, and its fine, yes, But you know what, I always thought the dream like heaven. If there was a heaven in my for me, it would be that the moment you die, you get to relive your life over again, but this time just as like a passenger getting to enjoy it. So like you get doing I know everything that's coming and now, but you don't have control over it. You just now get to relive your life and yeah, like oh like a pod meat swirld rewatch of your life. Wow, that's a that's you guys could be there with me. We could be watching little Rider do horrible things. Would have been massages in Vegas. Just that to me, I can see as riders trunks heaven. Yeah, scout massages and Vega right in front of a machine that just constantly dinging ding dinging. Alright, Well, I just I just the idea of death seems very I just sweet sweet sleep. I just it sounds amazing. This is such a parent of you children talking right now. Oh my god, not morbid, it really isn't I. I look forward to it in the in the in the most most healthy, quick possible. It'll be great. You are so tired, Daniel. I wish you could come to Vegas and just relax, just relax, and we can massage because you were working so stressed of ringing for the sweet release of death. You so good, I hear you. And I've only got one kid. I can't imagine. I don't mean it, and I really truthfully, I don't mean it in a morbid way. It just you know, that's what it's going to be. Just the idea of not having any responsibilities sounds so delightful. You know that deep deep sleep you're in. Imagine what the deep sleep of death just it's so in the bed, it's my own space. It is so quiet, so disturbing. I don't know how we make but I want it World, waiting for the sweet Oh Boy. Welcome to pod Meets World. I'm Danielle Fish. I'm Wilfridill. So I have some emails that I want to go over because it's been a while since I've touched on some of them. And we got an email from Jessica s who, as a teen in Pittsburgh sent a fan letter to the show, not even a specific cast member, just to the show, and in return got a season three script signed by the cast and the monkeys who appeared in the episode. And she still has it. Yeah, isn't that cool? So I don't know who would have been in charge of reading that letter or sending it back to her, but she basically sent a letter to Santa and Santa sends something back. You know who you know who seems to have the temperament to do that, even though she was busy all the time. Is somebody like Karen mckaine. It seems like she would have read a letter like that and been like, I'm going to respond to this person. I don't know why, but that's the first name that pops into my head. Is somebody like Karen mckin. That makes sense for sure. And then We got an email from Kelly I and many, many, many, many many Menny others who pointed out that in the class pre union episode, the students were supposed to be getting together in twenty years from their high school graduation, not their sixth grade graduation, which so our math about Tapanga not being thirty five in order to be president was actually wrong because it wasn't. It wasn't twenty years from the year we were in. It was twenty years from four years from now, and that makes the show girl it's like year old. Well, no, it would have only been yeah, yeah, I guess you would have been like thirty six. Okay, so you know she's out there doing her thing. But here's my thing, guys. What others me is that what why would that? Why was that our sixth grade project? So not only do we have to envision our future twenty years in the future, but also imagine what you're going to be in height when you graduate high school. So it's like a hat on a hat, like it makes no sense. It was a real So yeah, you know what, we're actors and we're bad at math and all that, but also that's uh, that doesn't really, that doesn't sit well here so and then we heard from Michelle A who named her son after Corey. That means his name is Corey nice Well. Actually wasn't Corey's full name Cornelius Cornelius. I hope she did that. Then we have a lot of emails praying the idea of Danielle and Will as parents on a sitcom can come to life. So we special shouts to Chris at Shannon and Rachel See who emailed to say they'd watch us as parents. Also on our Instagram, Will when we posted that picture of us from that team magazine that I had, boy, oh boy, do we look alike and people said we look like brother and sister, brother and sister siblings kids. I was gonna say, Danielle to two or three kids something, maybe you're the husband you're with, something happens, he leaves, something like that, and you have to move in with your crazy brother. Right. I love it. And it's the older brother where I have never I'm the man child. I've never actually grown up. I'm a total nerd paint minis, I do all this stuff, and it's kind of the idea we had before mixed with a new sitcom. I love it. It's called where there's a will and will, except in this one move in with me and my kids, because you would probably have, based on what you're saying, you wouldn't live in a place where a mom with two or three kids could move in. So you decide to come in and help me, and you live in our basement and you're the weirdo weirdo or I live in a way less creepy, never land ranch kind of place like I never grew up. You know what I mean. You inherited all the money from the parents exactly like something you or I love it. Can you write this? Let's get this done please? Okay, writer, can get this going. We're going to sell this immediately because that's a great But by the way, we need to bring back the family sitcom, straight up multiicam family sitcom. It needs to come back. Everybody needs it. It's nostalgia. Now, it's nostalgia, as my wife likes to say, and that's what we need. Is it set in the nineties or is it it's contemporary? I think it's now. Yeah, okay, done, great, let's go sell that next week please, right, are you're working today in Vegas? So put that together? I'm getting my massage. Figure that out, please. And and we have Tiana d who teaches high school English and had a student recently asked her, why can't you be like Mr Feenie and follow us to college? Isn't that sweet? If I if I were a teacher, I'd want to be a teacher that people wanted to have follow them. Yeah, well, do you have a teacher that that you know? I guess it would be set teachers for you guys, right that that meant so much? Do you? Yeah? Yeast Staples, Wesley Staples, David Combs. And then I got really lucky all throughout my life. I feel like I've a really good teacher that's great. In college, I had mentor teachers that I still think. I'm still in touch with some of my college teachers that you know, had an impact on me. Yeah, I have teachers are great. Yeah, A good teacher can really absolutely change the entire direction of your life. Yeah, yeah, it's cool. And then of course we have Bill Danniels. Yeah, the teacher. So today we are here to recap season one, episode eighteen, It's a Wonderful Night. It originally aired March eleventh, nineteen. This synopsis is that Mr Peenie subs in as a babysitter when Eric wants to drive for a double date and Corey and Sean want to watch an R rated movie, but Eric fails his driving test and quickly finds himself in Deep Terrible. It was directed by David Trayner. It was written by Susan Astell Jansen, and we had a lot of guest cast in this episode. Jason Marsden came back as Jason Marsden, Don Gibb as Tony with a Y. He's best known as Ogre from Revenge of the Nerds or Rayed Yeah, or Ray Jackson from Blood Sports. Thank you get into Blood Sport later? Wow, Okay great? And then Kelly Packard returned as Tracy. She was in the episode where You Were a Lobster, Will and Favorite She's technically a lobster yes. And then Stephanie Dicker as Aaron, who's the other lovely lady in the episode. Christopher Cayer did our TV voices. Kevin Thompson as other TV races. He was the voice of an Ewok in Return of the Jedi and Blob Operator in Weird Science. It's Interesting. And then we have Lisa Wilcox as a TV voice, so she returns that Jeff Sherman's wife Sherman's ex wife. Yes, correct, Okay, this is I would like to point out writer and I were talking about this last night. Um, this is another episode that, other than the Don Gibbs scene, I remember nothing. Are you serious? Because I was talking to him yesterday and I said I had already watched the episode, and I was like, do you remember when you lose your driver you don't get your driver's license. It's like, I have no idea what you're talking about, but I remember everything about this episode. It's really funny. If if you had pitched me the plot, I'd be like, no, no recollection. But once I started watching it, I knew every line. I knew lines and scenes that I wasn't even in. For whatever reason, I was very present for this. No no idea. I remember none of it because I wasn't in. And there was a line in this show the only line I remember. I don't now he didn't say, which makes me wonder if Don Gibb was actually this is the only episode he did, because there is a line that I distinctly remember him saying that he did not say what he says at one point and he says, um, oh, I'm quaking in my size fourteen steel toe Jack boo. I remember that. I remember that, and it wasn't on the episode. Are you sure must have been cut? I don't think it was on the episode. I remember that line. Can we just say that though? But I mean, was that just something? Maybe it was said and then it got cut, but then we just repeated it over for the years. I remember that line. You said that, Yeah, I'm quaking in my size fourteen his only episode. He did not appear again. So it must have been a line that he said that then got cut. Maybe it was at the table and you guys repeated it. Maybe gosh, or is it from something else if you google? No, I haven't googled. I wonder if we google it, Um, I'm shaking in my size fourteen steel Jack stea, Yeah, I yes, And so I was waiting for that. I was like, Oh, this is the Steeler was like, didn't say yeah, GiB he was great. That's funny. So have no memories of this episode, but you did have a memory of something that maybe didn't happen. Yes, this is the one where DJ and the Twins. No, um, yeah, he's saying that line at the brick level split bricklin level, it right, right, Sonny? And how good Jason. I think one of the reasons they got rid of Jason is because he just made me look bad. He's so good too, such a sitcom actor. I mean it was amazing. Yeah. Hi, it's Bethany Frankel. My time on The wheel Housewives of New York is a few years behind me, and now I'm ready to put the reel back into the Real Housewives. That's where my new podcast Rewives comes in. He say, isn't your typical rewatch podcast. I'm watching only the most iconic episodes from all cities. 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Corey and Shawn are in the cafeteria and they are so happy that Corey's family is all going to be out of the house and that they're gonna have that bad babysitter Judy with her pimpley face. Sean brings a VHS in a Barney video case, but inside is actually I'm Blowing up your Head Part six. Yeah, I remember. This is so fun. This is a fun scene because it's very simple. It's just the two of us sitting on a table talking. But yeah, we're having so much fun. Um Yeah, it was really cute and I love the I love that it's um. I remember movies and movies you were allowed to watch or movies you weren't allowed to watch, being such a thing when you were a kid. I don't know if kids feel this way anymore, because like Indie knows that everything is available. So for instance, if we talk about anything, he'll say, look it up. Uh, you know, we can just find it, find it on YouTube. But and I'm always like, no, man, like you gotta earn it a little bit. I just refused to like pull out my phone when we're talking because I just want to stay focused on like being together all the time. But it's a conscious effort, like in his mind, everything is at our fingertips all the time. And so the whole concept of like, yeah, having to find a copy of a movie, but like for us as is that was a journey, like and it was Yeah, I remember doing stuff like this to like get ahold of a horror film or like, you know, there was the one family whose parents let them rent whatever they wanted, so I would go spend the night at their house and get to watch Nightmare in Elm Street and then not sleep for exactly no I remember. So it was it was the same with us. But the thing that we would do even back in the day in Connecticut when the one movie theater opened and we had to take the horse and buggy there. Just getting all the jokes on right now, start the projector. Um. You would get like your older brother or a friend of an older brother to actually take you to the movie theater. And sometimes they'd have to literally sneak you in, like they'd buy a ticket and go in and then open the back door and you'd have to walk in the exit thing. And then you you do it to your own detriment because you wouldn't sleep, terrify, you'd be so And I remember we got a brand new TV back in the day and it had something that none of us had had ever heard of. This feature. It was this colored feature. You know what it was, the sleep feature. You know, you has a button in the thing and it would shut off. It was a talking it was a talking that sound it had sound, which was it didn't have the crank on the side that he would go to sleep. So no, So my brother was watching The Exorcist while none of us were there, and he had sat on the remote. I remember that. So all of a sudden he's there with one friend in the dark watching the Exorcist for the first time, and the TV starts to count down thirty and they're watching, having no idea what is going and it hits zero and the TV shuts off, So they of course think something's going on because technology was brand new, but it did. You would watch these movies to your peril because then he can sleep. It was horrifying. I can trace hating horror movies back to being a kid and spending the night at a girlfriend's house and it was like a big group sleepover. So it's probably a birthday or I don't know, something like that, and I think it was Halloween five. I don't know for sure, but there was a scene where a girl is crawling through um one of those thin metal air conditioning vents, and he is stabbing through it anywhere like down the line, and I have been terrified to crawl through fans ever since. It doesn't make any sense because why would I ever be in one of those situations, but the anxiety of not being able to see where the stabs are coming, and I was like, no, why would anyone do this to themselves? I don't understand. This is a terrible feeling. Why would I want to give myself this anxiety, and I don't like it, Like jump scares. I just can't. I can't get behind it. The film. Have you seen Rubbers? Have you seen Rubber? No, it is Easton. It is the entire movie as a horror film. This is not a joke. A horror film about a runaway evil tire. Oh my higre that just rolls and kills people. I'm I'm in. I mean like the seventies, eighties, by the way, I like some of them, like I loved Bobba Duke film two thousand ten. Sorry, that's when Rubber came out. You need to watch Under the Shadow next about it? Oh god? Now, so if you like Boba Duke, Under the Shadows just not so good. I know I If it's like Boba Duke, I will watch it. All right, guys, I'm sorry we have to jump into this. Sorry. After we set this up and you guys are going to watch this rated our movie this weekend. We get into our credits and then we are in Corey and Eric's bedroom. Eric is checking out the Barney vhs Corey brought home, but Corey shows him the truth. It's the R rated horror movie. But don't worry he's going to fast forward through the nudity, which I thought it was very funny. That was a good joke. Yeah, that's a good joke. I like the phrase baby scam to I was like, baby like that, that works. That works, throwing just doing girls and throwing on a purple shirt. It is he talked about girls all the time, all the time. That's all the dialogue I have is about women. That's it. I know. I hope, I hope after season one that kind of slows down, because so far it seems like we're stuck with it through season one. So Eric says, if you're going to do the crime, be sure you're ready to do the time. Corey is confused, so Eric explains that Aim and Amy and Alan trust him, which is why they're letting him get his license with Jason instead of his parents. Basically, he does enough good things so he doesn't get caught doing the few bad things that he does, which I'm sorry it's a horrible explanation. No parent is going to let their sixteen year old child go and get their license by themselves. That's just not going to happen. Ever, so that to me, you lost me at the episode there where it's like there's no parents, like, oh, you're getting your license. Sure, go with your other sixteen year old friend to the d m V and get your license. That like, well, isn't gonna happen. Your other friend, by the way, doesn't have his license. If you do. If you do fail, who's taking you home? How did you get there? Exactly? No, if none of that made sense to me at all, Like logistically, it was just like, no, this doesn't make any sense. I get why they're doing it to drive the story forward, but it made no sense at all. I didn't even didn't even occur to me. It's just that's that's also a rite of passage with your parents, Like your parents bring you to get your license, that's what they do. It's so yeah, yeah, it was weird to me. That whole thing was weird. But I had a white vest with the hood, so I was happy. So that that made you happy, writer, I agree with you. I didn't really think too much into it, but I definitely knew it was one of those things that was like, Okay, here's where they give us a soft setup and I just buy it and I very sitcom you know, like you can see the pitch for this episode he fails this driver's license, but you know, it's like okay, and then you they realized like why would he be going? Who cares? And because I don't have it, you know, and you also just know, like the pitch for this was Pheny gets stuck babysitting the kids. Okay, let's come up with ways to make that hard for store. Great. Yeah, so Corey says that when Eric gets his license, he can drive them everywhere, but he breaks the news. Eric says that he has a double date with Jason, and then you know, hits Corey in the head with a pillow. So we have to talk about this moment. I watched it three times. Wolves Face is the funniest thing I've ever seen in my life. When Ben starts showing like oh, and then you're going to do this thing up and you make this like and I was like, the camera's not even on you. I could just see you profile. I watched it three times because it is the best, like older brother like and and the fact that Ben is so into it and like Earnest and you're just like are you making the dirkiest like so so excellent and your aunt's going like, oh my god, you are so funny in this series. I was dying it was funny. Yeah, I was like, what am I doing that? Like face, Oh my god, no, you clearly are a younger brother who has seen that look from your older brothers. Like it was. It just like went right to the core of me. I was like, oh my god, Will is so funny, genius man. I love Will being able to make the most of a moment where he's not even on camera because he couldn't show his face because if you show his face, it would be so obvious that he's joking, you know, leading Corey along. But it's this is why I don't want invisibility, just saying and the pillow stuff and you can flip over a bed and something. It's always fun. Yeah, ben a good stuff. Yeah, yeah, those are always fun moments. I remember loving that. Um. Then we're in the Matthews living room. Cory's on the couch doing homework when Amy comes down and asks him what's going on because he's sitting and studying and she doesn't really trust that Amy and Alan are going out. Alan is dressed casually. Amy says that tonight is a really important event for her with the real estate Biggie's in Pennsylvania, and he looked to quit a suit. He looked looks so good, I think, actually, and yeah, I guess, like I don't know. I thought he looked better with the jeans. I didn't, but you know, I'm not a suit guy. So yeah, I think it's just a level of like, you know, if you get invited to a wedding and it says black tie, you know you're supposed to wear either a tucks or at the very least a very nice suit. You're not supposed to wear jeans, like if you wore jeans. She doesn't say that it's black tie, but she does say, this is a really important event for me tonight, and so I think she's worried he just looks too casual and jeans. So she tells him to put on a suit. But I agree that I preferred the casual gene luck. That's a rusty that's a rusty thing. That's why I think, Yeah, it's so rusty, and he looks great, so ruggedly handsome, So she tells him to put on a suit. Alan wants to stay home and spend time with his kids, and Corey does not want that because it is going to ruin his movie plans. So Eric and Jason come in. They are both wearing vests, which is how you know their best friends exactly, the matching sleeveless hooted vest. Yes, I mean listen, if you're not planning your outfit with your best friend, are you even best friends? Wow? And I'm leaving, thank you very much, goodbye, goodbye best friends. Thank you. I can't I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna Jason's key flip with a moment when like it's like no, it's tossed, and then he kept or he throws it, he catches and throws it. I don't know. It was like such sitcom. It was like, oh my god, so good. He's so good, he's so slick, and you're just like you are, like, I mean, how old was he was? Sixteen? He's the same age as you know. He's like, a ye, yeah, you're too old than me years old at this point watching this scene, I uh. And again, I know you guys think I bashed myself a lot, But I often wonder with scenes because he's so good and so slick that if they're watching going, I wonder if we should have cast Jason as the older brother, you know what I mean, because he's just got that thing. He's so good. Okay, I am gonna throw out an alternative though, Is it I love Jason? Is it too is it too much? I think it can be. I think it can be. I think it can be in the wrong, you know. I think, like I felt like this whole episode was too much said comfy. You know, it's very much like set up, set up, and then punchline. You know, like when we get to the girls flirting with the guy. I just was like, I just wanted to it was. Yeah, that was I mean, I just didn't like it. But so yes, But I don't think it's Jason's fault. I think to find a young actor who can do those kinds of slick jokes, it's it's such a skill, and Jason was clearly a pro and it's something you have to learn, you know. It's and by the way, I think one of the things that makes Boy Meets World so special is that all of the lead, none of the leads had but throwing Jason in give you some of that is great nineties version of Eddie Haskell. I mean that's what he is. He's the hey, you're looking great, Mrs you know, Mrs how you doing? You look great? And Mrs Matthews, you're awesome. And then it's like, hey, here's the scam. We're gonna get it. It's so Eddie Haskell that it might have just been they thought the character was too much where it was just like wow, it's that's okay, we've gone way towards. But I do think that there were other shows populated entirely by actors that were like and was not one of those. And I think that that you're right, and I think that we're totally worked in our favor and that's what makes it a little more unique. I agree, yeah, And I think it's what makes it still relatable thirty years later, as opposed to feeling like a thing of its time. There was also did anybody notice in the scene a very strange close up just out of nowhere? There was a couple of them. Yeah, we're just a random kind of like that was weird. All of a sudden it was close up on you as you like walked to the door, and I thought I actually said out loud, oh cut something out there, like something must have been in the fire. But there's another one later. There's a couple of moments where all of a sudden, we had a close up and I was like, that's interesting. It totally took me out of the moment. I don't know something happen. It was just just a random close up. It was like, that's bizarre. Yeah, I bet, I bet they had something else in the scene that they cut out for time, and that was what they had to go to. Yeah. So anyway, Jason says that Eric failed his driving test before it even started. Eric mixed up someone at the d m V with the guy doing the test, and then Tracy calls, and right as Eric is about to tell her they can't go because he didn't get his license, Jason grabs the phone. He says, the only problem is that cash the cast machine only gave them two hundred dollars for a date tonight. Tracy says she bought a new dress and that she's worried it's too short, and Jason sounds like a total sleeves ball when he talks about how dresses can never be too short. Um, the whole yeah, the whole thing feels a little creepy. But whatever, Jason says, they will pick up the girls, but Eric doesn't understand, knowing he didn't pass his test. Alan now comes down in a nice suit. He's ready to congratulate the new driver, Eric, but again Jason covers up, lying to Alan and saying that Eric passed. This whole plan seems to be really be bothering Eric, who because it is this, you know, the family show. You guys have to be good kids, Like we couldn't have Eric be the one coming up with this scheme because then he could be unlikable. So Jason has to push this plan forward. So Amy comes down all dressed up for her real estate event, and Jason cat calls her he's basically really sucking up to everybody in this family. Alan says that someone in this house should have a good time tonight, and he gives Eric his car keys, thinking he just got his license. Jason accepts and takes the keys and tosses them before Eric can say anything. As soon as Amy and Allan leave, Eric tells Jason he is not going to lie to his parents, but then he gets over that real quick. He's suddenly on plan with the scheme and they plan to drive their dates. But then Judy calls pimple Judy and she bails on babysitting Corey and Morgan, ruining the entire plan. So now they have to come up with what are we gonna do. We have to find a babysitter, even though earlier in the season there's a time where she says, I think you're old enough to watch Morgan. Now you can watch more. So it's like they are going to push the storyline through. Guys, how do we get to phoene babies? It's make that true because that's the other thing is is the parents don't take him to get his license, and they don't even say, hey, come on, let me all right, let me see it. Come on, let me see the license. Had the same thought. I thought they were going to reference it and then you know, because they actually don't give you your license, or maybe they do nowadays, so I thought, oh, maybe they would have to do and I was like, nope, we don't even acknowledge the key. Move on. It's like, okay, here's the keys to the car, Like all right, wow, that's interesting. So Eric and Jason kind of are scrambling, where are they going to find a babysitter. He runs outside because he sees Phoenie is in the backyard. Eric says he needs the help because he's going to a classical music concert, and Phoene questions him about the type of music and then tricks him by asking blonder brunette. Phoenie figures out, yeah, um, let me just say somebody who had horrible acne, which we will get into because it's visible. There's a lot of means zip jokes in this episode, and Ye has him like, why does I mean it's one thing for like kids say, it's like the third time we've made a zip joke about car and it's Phoenie and it's seems mean, And I just was like, I was like, oh God, Like I was so insecure about my acne, and like I know that writing like this was part of the reason, you know, Like I was so oh God, I just it made me die inside. When the couple of ones, I was like, oh god, that's that's kind of tasteless. And then when Phoenie that was like yis and I was watching it going like, man, like, did this contribute to the way I felt second and third season when I had horrible acne? Like knowing that writers were writing this kind of stuff. People I was working with and everybody was laughing at the joke of like, oh my god, if you have pimples, that makes you ugly and awful and weird. Like it made me feel horrible, and you know that was not kind. Phoene one took me over the top. Two, because you're right, I guess the difference between kids making fun of another feasibly another kid, just probably a sixteen or seventeen year old babysit are is bad enough, especially because it keeps going. But then for Phoenie, like as an adult, you should understand this is a very hard time for teenagers. Their skin starts breaking out. I know, can you make it? Imagine the equivalent of a fat joke, like you know it would be horrible. It's also Phoenie who's supposed to have kids coming through forty years. He's like you, you know that they're going through horrible times and you're you're making fun of them to like, yeah, it was bad. Also, isn't it kind of lazy to just keep making the same joke over and over again, Like if you're going to make a pimple joke, can you make one and then come up with something else because she also have a powerful scent. I don't know, there's other things you can do. There's other ways to this horrible making something funny and clever, you know, like it's just at six she won the lottery and took off like you could have done anything that was interesting. But no. Yeah, Also she could be, she could be. They don't like her as a babysitter because she doesn't let them do anything fun. She's on top of everything. She makes them go to bed five minutes early. She doesn't let them you know, good at it. Yeah, she's too good at being. She's even harder on them than their parents are. Something like that. There's a million there's a million things she eats funny, who knows whatever it is? So anyway, okay, we'll probably get letters about this being too political. Um so moving on so we don't get as many of those. Um uh. Phoenie figures out what Eric is trying to do, and Phoenie says he will cover if Eric spreads manure in his yard for the next four saturdays. Eric tries to get that down and then do you need saturdays his mum's or whatever? Backyard. If that's what it is, his side, his cornery twelve. We don't know what the other side looks like. We don't know what the other side. It's like a it's an English garden. It goes. What do we need was four days when you were spreading? Are you kidding me? He's got a full botanical garden. Yes, And this is like the repeat of the negotiation joke, which we've seen now like three times with the fence, like tricking Corey into They decided it was funny the first time, and it must be funny the third and fourth time. Is like, can keep chricking your students? Doesn't that also just mean you're not that great a teacher? Well, it is what it is. He needs to spend more time on math. Yeah, exactly. Of course, we're in the Matthews living room. Phoenie is playing tea party with Morgan, and Phoenie is wearing layers and layers of pearl necklaces. But he does not want to wear a floppy hat, but because of Morgan's sad puppy dog eyes, he agrees to wear it from Morgan, even though he has papers he needs to grade. Seeing Bill like this, I mean, this is why they wrote the episode, right, this is this is why they made this episode is because somebody in the writer's room was like, I want to see him having tea with morgan jewelry. I want to wear enough very funny hat. And sure enough he did it, and he still does it with with such class. I also just love the writing in this. When he has the line I have as stooned myself with costumed jewelry, I have swilled your phote, It's like you could just see the righted stuff sit. How do we make him as fancy as possible to fancy pants? And they wonder whytish, Oh my god, stooned myself and you just want to see Billy say these words like he's funny. Oh my god. It was great. It's also great because I see him searching for the words, and yet what amazes me about it is I as I was watching it, I was like, oh, man, he he doesn't He's trying to remember the word for stoon. But then he does it and the delivery of it is so natural. Still, It's like, how is he as an actor both present in his real life of oh gosh, I don't remember what I'm supposed to say, but also in character still delivering such natural lines as Phenie and you believe that Phenie is that intelligent and that he has this kind of vocabulary and that this is the way he speaks. And that's a crazy thing to pull off, Like if you had to audition actors to say these lines, there's nobody that could say them that would be this natural and this funny and believable. Like it's just with a five year old, mind you, he's saying us to a five year old, it's great, Yeah, it's great. So then a ding goes off and Phoenie goes to get food from Morgan's Easy Bake oven. Corey and Shawn are on the couch watching TV. It's something about nature with like a change the channel. So again Phoenie is four feet away and they're why they don't understand that he's watching a horror movie. It's so, let's just make this episode happen. It's so strange. Well, it gets even worse because in the tag there's a TV in the boy's bedroom and I was like, why were they watching a movie downstairs? Go upstairs and watch your horror film like us, move the VCR. If you need to make any say didn't make it makes no sense at all. And there's even a scene later where Phoenie walks past the couch and the second he walks past the couch they change the channel. It was really is really yeah, this one's put together with scotch tape. Really it really kind of seemed like that gag though of the Buxom nurse or whoever in the voice over, like getting Sister, like that was funny, where it was just every single horror trope and so what do you think. It's like literally just like he's just blowing up people's head. But then there's like a crossbow reference and it's so dumb, so you know, it doesn't really make any sense. Um, So Phoenie checks to see if it's appropriate, and then when he leaves the room, they switch back to their R rated movie. Then Phoene walks back in and they switch it back to Nature, then they switch it back again. He's literally a few feet away. None of it makes any sense. It's truly ridiculous. Sean asks if Corey thinks Eric is having as much fun as they're having and then say it with me optic, we see Eric is begging to get his death many Actually that's so yeah. Also, we get a fantastic slash absolutely terrible exterior shot of this. Toeyard, it was yeah, I was like, oh, look at that. It's from Taxi from like the Seven Days, you know, like what is that? Yeah. I think they wanted to set it up as being a little sketchy, a little scary, and said, Don, this is what I remember at this episode. I remember talking to Don Gibb, who was one of the nicest human beings you will ever meet in your life. And I was such a fan of his movies and he loved to talk about him. So I got to sit there and get Blood Sports stories and I got Revenge of the Nerds stories. It was the coolest thing ever. He was awesome. Yeah, he was super cool. What did you talk to him about Blood Sport? Well, because I asked him, I was like, all right, so, you know, not that it's like one of my favorite movies through everything, but what was it like doing Blood Sport? And so he's telling us stories about how it was. You know, they were trying not to hurt each other. And I'm not going to mention any names, but some of the actors would go too far and actually like somebody broke somebody's nose and somebody wasn't pulling their punches and and they shot it really quick, and um, you know, it was just it was amazing. And then of course the whole thing came out afterwards about how we won't go off on blood Sport, but how it was it was about Frank Duke's and and it was all a real story. And then it all came out that he just made the entire thing up, like none of that actually happened. Um, and Frank Duke's is considered one of the biggest martial arts frauds in history. So we talked a little bit about all that stuff. I mean, it was just like, yeah, it was he he had. He was one of those guys where he loved his craft, he loved the movies that he did, and he liked talking about it. So as somebody who wanted to listen, it was like the greatest combination where you just want to sit back and like, okay, tell me blood blood Sports stories, tell me Revenge of the Nerds stories. Told me about how they shot Revenge of the Nerds. Like on I think it was an Arizona College campus, and they all just partied like the whole time they were doing this. So stuff like that was just as a film fan was awesome and he was just really cool to work with. That's what I remember the most. Yeah, so it was it was great. Well, Eric gets off the pay phone and says that Phoenie is on his way. The toeyard guy says he needs Eric license his license to match the registration on the car in order to give it back. Their dates say they found a junior with a Camaro, and Eric and Jason say they don't need the girls anyway. The girls end up flirting with the tow truck guy Tony with a y to get the car back, and they're successful, but then they rip up the release instead of handing it back, and then they take off in the Camaro. This whole scene just it was flat from me. I don't disagree with you. It's not funny, so predictable. So like here's what's coming, Okay, two pretty ladies, so guy can't think anymore. It's like it was just very sitcom. It was very nineties sitcom, especially um and it's just kind of this is they didn't yet know and and the episode was written by by Susan so written by a woman. But the other than to Panga and Lily and I guess they're getting better with Amy. Any kind of young women or girls that were fourteen, fifteen, sixteen years old. It was very one dimensional everybody that they brought on just all the way around. So it was that and and she was great. I mean she did multiple episodes of our show, um, so it was it was kind of strange to see that the other woman that was there, not Kelly, but the other woman that was there, did she do multiple episodes too? I don't know. It was Stephanie Dicker. She was, She's the actress that played Aaron. She did multiple episodes? Did I thought so? Because they brought her back together, the two of them in the mall, it's sort of just yeah, I think they. I think it was both of them in the mall for sure. Kelly was they probably, which was probably like the next week, you know, they probably or they the mall episode went well, so they were like, oh, let's bring Jason and those girls back and do another scene with them. And I want to say Kelly came back again. I think she's done more than just these two episodes. Yeah, I think she does another one. She won't even play a different character. She was on my favorite show, California Dreams played Yeah. Okay, So just then Phoene gets there to help. He is still wearing the clip on earrings. He's there with Corey, Shawn and Morgan, which was so frustrating. Why does nobody mention the ear rings? It takes like three minutes and I was like, well, come on, let's make the joke. We're it's so obvious. Like again, the writing episode, the writing was not the strongest. It was just again it was just let's do Let's get through the episode. And I wonder if something happened, like there was a major rewrite, you know what I mean, Like this feels first drafty. This feels like I wonder if like they like had to change a whole plotline or something, and so they were like just busted that, you know, a change a series of changes in the last day or something. Because it feels really first and the episodes are getting the writing has been steadily getting better better, which is why this was sure us as actors more and it felt like such a departure where it was like this is wow, the writing took a step back, And again we say it was written by Stusan Astelle Jansen, but whoever's name is on the script. They write the first draft and then it goes essentially to committee, where it is rewritten by everybody in the room. So it's not like, wow, Susan wrote a bad script. It's like this. They come up with the idea in the first draft, and then this is what the entire room kind of came up with. So certainly not her fault, but it was strange. Yeah, yeah, it was not the best. And then Phoene keeps correcting Tony's grammar, which Tony does not really love. Uh. And when Phoene asks Eric to just hand over his license to Tony, Eric admits that he doesn't have a driver's license. Done, done, don So then we come back. We're in the Matthews family living room. Phoenie brings all the kids home. He sends Morgan to bed, and he said Jason straight home, and Phoene tells Eric to go up to his room and wait for Amy and Allen, and Eric here mentions that Phoenie was once his sixth grade teachers too. I saw that too, but only his sixth grade teacher, So I guess he waited for Corey's class and then just follow them everywhere. Correct, Okay, he didn't like you enough to follow it exactly exactly, Well, because all I talk, my dad didn't even like me until an episode ago, So yeah, it's fine. Alan didn't even know I had another kid. Still still rankles anyway. So phoene then notices that Corey and Sean have been watching an R rated movie with the exploding heads. Phoeney calls it cheap garbage, garbage and takes out the tape and all the film from the VHS unravels. Corey says, Sean is now going to have to pay for it, and Sean says, me, can we also talk about how the fact that so all this stuff has gone on and the film is still going it's apparently as long as Heaven's Gate. Yeah, it's like it's a four and a half hour movie of blowing up heads. He's there halfway through, when Phoenie is already there, and then the car is towed, Phoenie goes down there, we go, we go with it. We're we're only watching five minutes at a time because every time he passes the couch channel. That's true. Yeah, that's true. Fair enough, fair enough. So Amy and Allen return from their event, they asked, why is Phoenie here. Phoenie says he was covering for the babysitter. Sean runs home the same way Jason did earlier. Allen and Amy then see the R rated movie and they are furious and they ground him for thirty one years and say he's dog meat. Uh. Bill's line, I totally remember this when he hands out his holds out his hand, it says tip no. Well, one of the funniest lines I've ever I that is like just it's just a great red because I love it. It's like my favorite, and I remembered it. I was watching this episode like, oh, he's gonna ask for a tip, and it's so like ingrained in my mind. Anytime he sneaks a little out of Phoenie, it works so a little bit of a little so perfectly. It's also like I'm leaving you with these kids who are terrible tonight. It's also just yeah, it's also just the fact that nobody else acknowledges it. It's a moment where Foenie and the audience are the only people in on the jokes, you know what I mean. Like the whole scene, the whole episode has been like hijacked by all these crazy things, and then it's just like Feenie able to like basically wink at the audience and be like, well, my job is done here, and it's so funny. I also really liked Alan turning to him and saying you're the worst babies that ever lived. That was really funny. So Alan is getting angrier. Eric confesses he never passed his driving test. Phoenie leaves, just as Alan yells at Eric and says Eric will be a pedestrian for the rest of his life. Amy asks Alan to breathe for a second. Alan sends Eric upstairs. She says she is the one who has to drive the kids everywhere, not Alan, and she really needs Eric to get his license. I thought this was a nice turn. This was a cool perspective shift because the scene had been you didn't like it. The scene had been building it up as if like authoritative father is going to yell and have a twist and be like, no, I actually want him to drive because I'm as a mom always having to drive, Like I like that at a point like because I hadn't seen that coming, I am now tired though this is the third or fourth time of Alan's about to do something and Amy stops him and says, can I see you outside? Like let me tell you how we need to parent? Now? This has now happened over and over and over again. So I love the idea that she wanted Eric to do, but the idea of like, wait stop, Alan, let me tell you what you're about to do wrong, Eric, go upstairs. Let me tell you what it's like now that's happened like four times, so that I didn't like it where it's like, okay, you know, I get that Alan's gonna make a mistake and Amy needs to tell him what's going to happen next. I like this the change that she did, but the kind of like you're about to mess up as a because like the sitcom down right wants to write, so that I didn't like. I love again. I love the twist of I wanted him to drive to take some of the burden off. I mean, I think that's great. I just wish they did it in a different way other than can I see you outside again? Which is essentially what they did. I agree with you, and all the other times, the other time she stopped him, it's been Alan, you need to calm down and think about this from a different parenting perspective, this one. I don't think she has any problem with how angry he is and wouldn't normally care at all about what the punishment was she's going to give, except for what she's really saying is I'm going to be the one who's punished. Don't punish me here. So but it does. It does feel the same way because she stops him the same way. He says, are you undermining my authority? She's just like, not in front of your son or whatever, I do that in front of yourn So Amy says, yeah, they're Amy says, Eric will be driving driving around to help her run errands, not just having fun. So then we go to Corey and Eric's bedroom. Corey and Eric are on the bed, just absolutely panicked about how much trouble they're in. Corey hits Eric in the face with a pillow for a parting gift, a call back to earlier and uh, will you go flying off the bed from this? Really great? Alan and Amy come in to talk to the boys and explain they are grounded for two weeks, and you guys do those really cute phases? Oh, no, to how do you get like talking at the same time, like, it's very sitcom? This is the sitcom sitcom episode. Yeah, yeah, it really is. It's it's it's every sitcom trope you can imagine, but it is. It is kind of to see you guys doing that that phase. Uh, during those two weeks, Eric will just study and he is going to pass his test, and Corey is only going to watch educational TV. And we fade out with Corey wincing from the you know, the caribou with the TV that's right there that they could have been watching the horror film all night. And it was in this moment that I went, Hey, I wasn't in this episode. You kept waiting for you to show up. What if you just were like in the camaro at the junior because I literally never even thought about me or to Bang of the entire episode. And then when the episode was over, I was like, Hey, wasn't in it. It's weird. So I have a question for you. Did you will ever work with Jason? No? That's why when you said Jason was in like twenty episodes. I was like, really, I would have said three, he was, you know, I thought he was in twenty. He was only in nine or something like that. But you never had like a scene never acted with Jason. Second season, we're all at school together, though, so there could have been hallway seen. Maybe there would have been always seen, because I feel like I have images in my head of Jason and you in the hallway, which would have been the same hallway that we were in. So I'm amazed watching this how often you and I are in scenes together. I did not think that was a thing. Almost every episode we're doing something together. No. I remember this first season because I know the season ends with you, me and Ben in the backyard, and I remember loving doing that scene too, and I think that's where I wear the leather jacket. I think that's maybe the scene where I inherited and maybe I don't know my leather jacket. Well, we're in the tag in the Matthews living room. Morgan and Corey are tugging at Eric to drive them around the city. Amy is relaxing on the couch as eating some grapes, and she asks herself what would she like to do with her afternoon soak and read or read and soak. She's loving this new life. Eric says he'll drive off a bridge and Alan make sure he takes his mother's car, and Eric heads out to drive his brothers and sister around and that's the end of this very sitcomy episode. It it bends a very small part in this episode. You know, it's it's maybe one of the first episodes where Corey is B or C storyline. You know, the Stumpies Revenge is like a total of two minutes of screen time. You know, like the rest of the episode is all driven funny because you know with the episode where Will was a lobster at the mall and then with this junkyard or toe yard scene, it feels like somebody was starting to push for like we need to make the world bigger, we need to we need to show like we need to bring in other things we're getting. I don't know if they felt like they were running out of ideas in nine, so we probably had more money. Yeah, if we were doing the first thirteen episodes, you're you're basically not sure if you're going to get picked up, so you don't put money on swing sets, whereas when you have the back nine is when you can, oh, let's throw some money at building out the world and showing different places. So yeah, that's totally what what happened is about. Yeah, it just feels like they were like, let's make the world bigger with this extra money we got, but they're making it a little bigger through Eric, which is also an interesting what's kind of the only way to do it right because you're the only one old enough, because Corey can't leave without explaining how he gets somewhere, you know, and of course, like twelve years he's twelve right now, he's eleven. Eleven year olds don't go to malls, like you know, Like, I just don't think there was the thing that's true. Yeah, it's interesting, And this could also have been one of those weeks where Ben had a test or something. It's like, you know, it was a real Eric episode, so Ben probably had something more important to do, maybe, but you think it. I don't know. When he was twelve, Ben had those kinds of tests. I remember that for sure when we were in high school. But like, yeah, he had finals, finals and stuff like that. What must that been have must have been like to like, take school so seriously. I don't know. You didn't know. I took school more seriously than my school took school. You did, Oh my god, I'm dropping it. Yes you did. That's funny. I took it so seriously, Like I know, I didn't either. I didn't. No. I was like, okay, sure there's a test whatever, I'll be fine. And if I got to see I was like, I could have done better. But oh well, like big deal, Like you know, I don't know. But I also probably from the report cards, Danielle isn't living up to her potential. Man. Yeah, I just I was not. I was when I got to college late in life because I went at twenty seven. Then I took it very seriously. I became so ta panga in my later years, but in high school, I was very much just into the social aspect um. Well. Our next episode that we will recap is season one episode nineteen, kid Gloves. It originally aired March um. Maybe not our best episode, but I had fun with you guys recapping it. Yeah, and we're gonna have There's gonna be some some hits and misses. It's the way it works when you do three episodes of Something not all not all of them are going to be Lobster's the way it is exactly right. Writer, you want to take us out. We love you all, pod dismissed. Pod Meets World is an I heart podcast produced and hosted by Danielle Fischer, Wilfrid l and Writer Strong Executive producers Jensen Carp and Amy Sugarman. Executive in charge of production, Danielle Romo, producer and editor, Tara Sudbach, producer, Jackie Rodriguez, engineer and Boy Meets World super fan Easton Allen. Our theme song is by Kyle Morton of Typhoon. 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