Angels/Anthony Rendon early divorce, Brewers payroll dilemma, Reds flex options, Yankees 2026 WS odds

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Anthony Rendon's tenure with the Angels appears to be coming to an end. What a disaster.

(16:29) Astros hire Ethan Katz as their pitching coach. How will he work out in Houston?

(19:05) The Brewers may need to subtract some salary in order to add some salary. Does that mean Freddy Peralta will be dealt?

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(19:41) Mike Shildt is back with a team after joining the Orioles in an instructional role. Maybe his departure from the Padres was more than what was said?

(21:22) The Reds offseason could go many ways due to their flexibility among position players. Should they just sign a legit everyday guy to make it easy?

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(24:01) BETMGM has the odds for the Yankees to win the World Series in 2026. Besides the Dodgers, does any team deserve to have better odds than New York?

(26:15) Baseball appears to be heading to a lockout after next season. The big question is: will any games be missed?

(30:41) Pillar put out his Christmas wish list on social media. (Hint hint)

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00:00:04
Speaker 1: We've got some breaking news, Alden Gonzalez reporting that the Angels and Anthony Rendon are and talks about buying out the final year of his contract. This according to one of Alden's sources, and the expectation is that Anthony Rendon will retire. What an era this one has been. This would have been the last year of a seven year, two hundred and forty five million dollar contract. It is easily one of the worst contracts in Major League Baseball history. He didn't play much, he didn't contribute much. Kevin Polar played with him for a season with the Angels. What do you think about this? Dude, you experienced Anthony Rendon, who I think is somewhat misunderstood. I covered him for years when he was with the Nationals. I mean, the easy way to put it is, doesn't love baseball. Nice, chill guy to be around your thoughts.

00:00:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was his teammate in Anaheim. I didn't really get a chance to be on the field them very much because he was also hurt that year. But yeah, I think Anthony Rendon is one of the most misunderstood players, maybe of all time. And he's very outspoken in his beliefs. But he's not saying anything that most I wouldn't say most that some other players aren't saying. People forget that baseball. To a lot of us, yes, we do love it and it's and we're passionate about it. But at the end of the day, it is a job and the joy for a lot of people. When you get to the major league some of it is taken away from you. I felt it towards the end of my career. I was very passionate about being a baseball player. I love the game of baseball. Part of the reason I'm still sitting here talking baseball is because I do love it. But does some of the joy get taken away from you when you get into the business side of baseball, and at any given day you can be released or you can be traded, and you feel like you have a value and it's not reached that So, yes, it is a job, and not all of us loves show going up to our job every day. And Anthony Rendon just happened to be one of those guys who was super super talented at baseball, and probably early on in his life in order to get to Rice University and through his time at Rice, university, worked extremely hard to be one of the best players in baseball, was drafted second overall. You know, won a World Series with the Nationals. You know, jumped on the scene as one of the best right handed hitters in baseball. And it's very unfortunate that, you know, his time with the Angels was not good. Like you said, to put it bluntly, it's going to go down as one of the worst contracts of all time. And you know, we are in the season of the holiday season, and I think we talked about on the show earlier, you know what we're thankful for, and I think both sides are very thankful for this to happen. The Angels are thankful to finally move on from Anthony Rendon, hopefully get a little bit of payroll flexibility, and Anthony Rendon is just very thankful that the Angels are willing to do this where he no longer has to show up to a place that he doesn't want to be anymore. He wants to be at home with his family, donate to his church, and go out and farm, because that's really what he's passionate about.

00:03:12
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of people that can associate with Anthony Rendon in the sense that you know what, they might not like their job, it's not an excuse to not go out and do it.

00:03:24
Speaker 4: I don't care what your job is. Like.

00:03:27
Speaker 3: The biggest thing that an employer, because he's an employee, needs needs to expect from his employees is good effort and a good attitude. Now, if you don't have those things, I don't care. If you're the best at your job, no matter what the job is, employer is not going to be too pleased.

00:03:48
Speaker 4: And I think if.

00:03:51
Speaker 3: He would have gone out and played to his fullest extent, in the sense of he's out there every day, he's playing through injuries, then I think we could get him a little bit of a break. But when when somebody says they don't enjoy baseball, or they don't they don't enjoy being they would rather do other things, I get that. But it's afforded him the opportunity to be able to do those other things, to be able to farm, to be able to like nobody's holding a gun to your head to play baseball. You don't have to play baseball. You can go and find a different job. And I think I think the fact that his career will be marred by the fact that he signed this contract and people don't feel like he gave his best effort. I think it is going to completely overshadow what an incredibly talented player. He was home hit an opposite field home run against US in spring training when I was at the Phillies, So it had to be somewhere in like twenty eleven, twelve thirteen, somewhere in there, right out of Rice, and I was like, Wow, how that.

00:04:55
Speaker 4: Guy hit an opposite field home run?

00:04:57
Speaker 3: And Joe Savory went to and he knew about Anthony Rendon and this guy is He goes, this guy is the one of the most unassuming opposite field power bats that you will ever see, And I was like, whoa relax, Joe, like that is That's well? He was spot on. He couldn't have been more spot on, and it's a shame that his career ended this way, especially when he signed over at the Angels. Twenty twenty was the COVID year. I think he was tenth in MVP voting, so it was coming off and after that. Before that, he was third in MVP voting in twenty nineteen for the World Champion National, so there's extreme levels of talent in there, and it just it sucks that these last you know, this contract ended the way that he did. And maybe he'll say it was injuries. People from the outside would say, maybe it wasn't all the injuries. Maybe it was more the you know, lack of desire to show up every single day, which you have to do in the sport of baseball.

00:06:00
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00:08:03
Speaker 4: Yeah.

00:08:04
Speaker 2: I mean I played with him a long time ago. He hasn't really changed to who he was as a person and how he felt about baseball. I honestly was really shocked when he became a free agent and he signed the seven year deal. I thought he would be a guy that would front load the heck out of his contract, maybe sign a three or four year deal, maybe five at the moke so he can get his ten years. I don't really know how important that was to him, but I saw him frontloading a deal for like two or three years, make it a ton of money, riding off in the sunset. But to Crassey's point, you know, when you go out and you sign a big deal and a lengthy deal for an organization, you owe it to them to put your best foot forward. And I don't believe people inside of that clubhouse, people in that front office ownership group, believe that Anthony Rendome put his best effort every single day when he shut up. You know, none more evident than last year. Yes, did he have a hip surgery. Yes, you can look at medical records and stuff. Did he actually have a surgery. But the fact that he never showed up at spring training at the Angels Complex, never really checked in in Anaheim with the medical staff, kind of stayed at home and kind of did his own rehab, And maybe because of his lengthy injury history, he felt like, I need to get away from the team. I need to do what's best for me. Anthony Rendon rehab with my own people. But if I'm an employer and this is one of my employees, I'd like him to be around the team. I'd like to check in with him, make sure he's doing everything in his power to get back on the field, because we gave him a large investment to be part of our organization and help turn things around. So you know, I understand what you're saying Cratsey, like, you gave this guy a ton of money to kind of go side by side with Trout and try to take this organization to places you thought that they can get to with these two guys kind of anchoring the middle of your lineup. No one says these things about Trout by the way. He's had injuries over the last couple of years, but he's passionate, he cares, he's around the team. I was with him during his injury. I saw how hard he worked to try to come back. So I think when you were very vocal about not wanting to play and not loving the sport, taking all this money and then not really putting your best foot forward to at least go out there and try to post. People are gonna have a problem with.

00:10:22
Speaker 3: It, and physically sometimes you can't be on the field. Adam Wainwright said, one of the one of the toughest years for Hims but for him, but also one of the one of the most rewarding years was the year he had Tommy John surgery. He had to get the surgery, and then every day after he was done his rehab, he was able to invest in his teammates. He was able to invest in those relationships. When you pay a guy two hundred million dollars, When you pay a guy one hundred and fifty million dollars, she probably when you pay a guy thirty million dollars, your expectation is, yes, they're gonna be able to do some things on the field, but the impact that they have on the entire roster, the entire organization is going to come back to that team four fold. And that's how and that's how you prove your worth in a contract. Sometimes physically you just can't do it. Sometimes you can't even get on the field. But man, you can show up every day with a great attitude and really lift up your teammates and really lift up those people. And so for me to hear that he was hurt and didn't show up to spring training feelings hurt or not, like.

00:11:29
Speaker 4: There's there's a value.

00:11:30
Speaker 3: There's a value add there when you're a person that wants to be around other people and help lift them up.

00:11:36
Speaker 4: And it's tough. It's tough when you hear when you hear stories like that.

00:11:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I remember the discrepancy and the team never backed down saying that he had a shin bruise. I think this was twenty twenty three and rind O inside said it was a fracture. I mean, that gets a little crazy. There's not a lot we can do on the commenting front. We're not privy to that medical information. But when the team's coming out that steadfatt, it does get interesting. You don't see that very often.

00:12:03
Speaker 2: And hey, I.

00:12:04
Speaker 1: Mean I have quotes. I'm looking back at Perrimanas the GM years back saying I think he's gonna win comeback player the year after one of his years. So it was a last season. Ron Washington, when he first got the job, spoke on our show and said one of his first phone calls is to rend own. It's not like the Angels gave up on him right away, and they backed him publicly quite a bit. So this finally gets to the divorce phase with one year to spare, and I think we should end it this way, KP, because you spent time with the Angels. How valuable is it for them to get the closure here a year early? It did feel like it was a dark cloud over the team in a certain aspect, right, and it could have gotten ugly this year where he doesn't want to play clearly, and he would have to just kind of be there and show up and do his thing. And it's just I don't know if you want to call it dead weight, but thirty eight million dollars oh this season, thirty five years old, doesn't want to play the game. They probably will do some deferrals that'll open up a little bit of payroll for this season. So this is a huge win for Angels and for Angels players, right.

00:13:02
Speaker 2: It's a huge win. And honestly, I think it's potentially a year too late. You know, when he had that hip surgery and potentially he was going to miss the entire year. And sometimes you don't know until you know, because you know, I was there the year before and even though Anthony Rendon was hurt, he was around. Like I said, you don't know until you know. And then an entire year where he's not around, and then he has no reason not to be there next year because he is healthy. Maybe you learn from his absence this year that maybe it was this dark cloud that they needed to get rid of. Maybe there's if he shows up, you know, what kind of player is he going to be? Does he even want to be there? What kind of work ethic he's going to be. The Angels are trying to change their culture a little bit. You know. They brought in a young manager, Kurt Suzuki, who probably just doesn't want to have to deal with this sort of thing his first time being a manager. It's long overdue. Good for the Angels, you know, whether they get some financial flexibility, that's one thing. Guess that would help their organization go out and get some better players. But did not have to deal with him being in spring training, maybe potentially influencing some of the younger players to know, not go hard in drills, or not take ground balls, or not do certain things, or learn from him in maybe a negative way. It's long overdue, and hopefully it's something that the Angels do have a dark pass of having signings not work out. It goes way beyond Anthony Rendon, So hopefully this is somewhere where they could kind of just move forward and not be a little gun shy when it signing some guys to long term deals in the future.

00:14:35
Speaker 1: Last note here in spring training, when it was announced that he was getting hip surgery, Ken Rosenthal did report there was no insurance on that contract ever, and that owner Ardi Morino does not do that for his players because of the cost of that insurance, and he ends up at about twenty five percent of games played over over five years now six years, I guess, and really the seven that is getting bought out. One estimate that rosenth I've got was about fifty million dollars to benefit back if they did have insurance, so it would have covered some but nothing close to the two forty five mill that was essentially a waste for the Angels during this time period. So anyway, the relationship seems to finally be over and Anthony Rendon will probably be retiring from Major League Baseball. It's baseball the way it should be covered here on FT. Give us a sub if you can, please and leave us a comment with your thoughts on this. Kratz, we picked you to talk about me undies not just because they're ridiculously comfortable, but also because they are very festive. When the holiday season hits, you go on the website and there are just so many more designs to check out, and they just scream Eric Kratz getting little matching sets with everybody that he knows.

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00:16:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know Ethan Katz. He was the former high school pitching coach at Harvard Westlake, which you know is the home of Max Freed, Jack Flaherty, Luis g Aledo. You know, some of those guys were there at Chicago when I was there, and maybe it's a little bit of a recruiting tool to maybe sign a guy like ge Aledo to come to Houston, maybe on a one year deal. But he obviously has a track record of you know, working with some amateur guys in high school and has kind of worked his way up to the big leagues.

00:17:32
Speaker 3: Luis Giolito would be the Spanish brother of Lucas Gioldo.

00:17:37
Speaker 4: So I think you meant you said, Luis, but.

00:17:42
Speaker 2: He's going to Houston, to Houston for me, so I give it for me.

00:17:46
Speaker 3: The Astros are running a two major league pitching coordination, and I don't know how that works for hitting, Like I don't think it works for hitting. You need somebody that's always like the top guy. So I don't know how they're doing it at the Astros, but they're doing it successfully.

00:18:05
Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal put out a notes column. He also put out a second Fair Territory this week a day early, so you can check that out. It was live before the show. If you want to catch it. After foul territory, we'll get to at least one of the notes here to start. This is an Eric Kratz special for your former team. Ken wrote, the Brewers are fretting over their payroll. According to people briefed on their plans, there's possibility that they'll need to subtract in order to add, and that again brings up the Freddy Peralta question. The only problem I keep having with this, Kratz is from a payroll perspective. Eight million bucks for Freddy P. Eight million bucks. I know that the Brewers have to be tight, but eight million bucks for a starter, and they have plenty of league minimum or early arbitration guys, that doesn't seem to be the problem spot.

00:18:49
Speaker 3: Not the problem spot. I mean, I get it. They probably didn't think Big WU was going to accept it. But I know the Brewers are definitely thinking we extend this. We would like to have him in twenty two millions, not a big Does that inhibit them from doing another twenty million dollars one year deal? Yes, but Freddy P ain't the answer. And I mean twenty million for Freddy P wouldn't be that big a deal, but it's only eight million. If you're looking to cut payroll, you have to be more creative than getting rid of Freddy p unless you get a return that immediately puts your team right back in a ninety seven wins season again, and that's going to be a tough return.

00:19:26
Speaker 1: Woodrif's making three times what Freddy Peralta is making. Hey, I agreed with the decision. If you think he looks like the big wou of old, then you do it. But if you really were concerned, you don't offer that.

00:19:39
Speaker 4: Yep.

00:19:41
Speaker 1: Two Orioles hirings per source telling Rock Obacco, who covers the Orioles for Mass and he said Mike Shilt will be upper level coordinator of instruction and Samuel Vega will be lower level coordinator of instruction. Shilt's the name that stands out. He retired as a manager. But you wanted to get the schedule reconfigured. So this does make sense, And then we can show the next one too before we get a quick reaction. This coming from Robert Murray. Brandon Hyde is in talks to join the Rais in an undisclosed role. Nothing done, but he's expected to land in Tampa. There were some people pretty surprised that Hye didn't get deeper into an interview process with any teams for a manager role. Maybe that happens next year. Any thoughts from each of you got a quick hit.

00:20:26
Speaker 5: Cool.

00:20:27
Speaker 2: The Mike Schuld thing's a little bit interesting to me too, I mean from everything we had heard, and I was on the show the day that he retired or was relieved of his duties, and it seemed like his health was in Jepardy. But for him to kind of jump back into a baseball role seems a little bit odd to me. Maybe we don't know the entirety of the story in San Diego, or maybe he just loves baseball so much and just couldn't be in the fight every single day. But I found that a little bit interesting that he would leave the padres and then take on another role.

00:20:57
Speaker 1: That's a lesser. I mean, this is probably a that requires less time, though, right, because I know that was a big thing for him.

00:21:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't mean he's he has no he's not married, he has no kids. Like I get the time. He probably wants some time to himself, But I don't think the time was the thing that was the reason he left San Diego.

00:21:17
Speaker 4: I think it was the stress, the drama.

00:21:22
Speaker 1: Hey, one more little nibble from Ken Rosenthal's notes column which came out recently, and then he hit on most of these topics on fair territory, which is out there. He said the Reds versatility will keep them active on numerous fronts because many of their players can play multiple positions and it gives them flexibility to make moves that fit their needs. Here are some examples, according to people familiar with their thinking who spoke to Ken. He said they could add a first baseman and they could put Spencer Steer in left field. They could add a center fielder and move TJ. Friedel to left field. They could also add a right handed hitting outfielder to a platoon with Will Benson, who's a left handed bat. What do you think, Kratz?

00:22:06
Speaker 3: Stop stop, you've been doing this. You've been doing this. You have all these guys.

00:22:11
Speaker 4: You have TJ.

00:22:12
Speaker 3: Friedel, you have you have Spencer Steer, you have Matt McClain, you have La de la Cruz. Like, stop, go get somebody that is going to be one position, solidifies that spot, and stop going out and getting the GMR Candelario. When you already have utility infielders. Stop going out and getting like guys who like you watch them go play really well somewhere and then you're like, oh we want that. Oh it didn't work out. We're the Reds. We can't afford to make mistakes. Stop go make one solidified spot add to your bullpen and your starting rotation is already boss, So stop doing this. Stop like going around, like touching the edge of the pool, like jump in swim. Make the playoffs and a deep run in the playoffs.

00:23:02
Speaker 1: So you want one big star, You want one or I would say mid.

00:23:06
Speaker 2: Range to high level I play, I got the I want Pete Alonzo. I want to watch him hit seventy five homers that's just at the home games.

00:23:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, that that's a good fit for them.

00:23:24
Speaker 2: Could you imagine watching him hit there for eighty one games a year. He would make that place look so small it would be unbelievable. He would hit sixty You would hit sixty plus homers playing in.

00:23:35
Speaker 4: That ball play.

00:23:36
Speaker 3: I wanted them to get Anthony Santander last year to be that Latin player who will help Elie de la Cruz make that next step. Sometimes you need stars that look up to older stars, you know from where you know the.

00:23:49
Speaker 4: Latin, the Latin connection there.

00:23:51
Speaker 3: That's the kind of thing that I wanted because Ellie can't be a oh ps plus of one oh seven his entire career.

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00:25:18
Speaker 2: I mean you got Aaron Judge to win bet against you?

00:25:23
Speaker 3: Colet Garrett Cole, he's coming back to They're gonna add at least two major free agents. They always do. They're not gonna add at the trade deadline. They never, They rarely do. Last year was rare. So this team plus seven to fifty. I love that number. I really love that number. I'm not convinced they're gonna win it yet, but I do love that number.

00:25:47
Speaker 1: Okay, anyone else that you think should be higher than them? Not the Dodgers. I'm so you've got the Dodgers, the Yankees. Anyone else that you think should be higher than the Yanks as of right now?

00:26:00
Speaker 4: Not yet?

00:26:01
Speaker 2: I mean Phillies.

00:26:02
Speaker 3: Phillies possibly, but I don't think they've done enough yet.

00:26:06
Speaker 2: I can make the argument for the Blue Age or the Mariners.

00:26:10
Speaker 5: Yep, I just with the Mariners starting pitching, it's it's I mean, they weren't even fully healthy last year and we saw what they were able to do, so I would never bet against the Mariners.

00:26:24
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00:28:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think they tipped their hand. And during the last kind of mini lockout we had is that they didn't make players, you know, sweat it out long enough. So I wouldn't be surprised if if owners did it. I think it's really sad that it's going to come to that point because you look at the ratings of the World Series, they were unbelievable. I think the game's in a great place. We have a lot of young stars, we have a lot of older stars. You know, let's just continue to kind of ride this momentum that baseball has right now. But I wouldn't be surprised there's definitely gonna be a lockout because, as you see everything in life, there has to be a deadline. You know, we could come to terms right now on a new CBA, but we're not going to, so there has to be a deadline. We're going to cross that line. There's gonna be a lockout, and no matter what the players do in our union does try to get a deal done. I think owners are going to send a message this time that they want what they want and they're willing to miss games to do it.

00:28:54
Speaker 1: I'm trying to tiptoe the line Herecrafts because it is still like kind of far away, but it's not. We're approaching the year we actually will have a lockout. It'll just be at the end of twenty twenty six. But the questions do keep flooding in we're one of the only spots that actually covers this. So what are your thoughts.

00:29:10
Speaker 3: That's it right there, that's my answer. No, there will not be a lockout. I mean there will not be any games missed. There might be a little bit of a lockout. Owners don't want to miss any games. Every game they're like, oh, man, that's how much attendance all this stuff. And I think our show has been around for long enough that the narrative is changing. Is it changed enough yet? I don't think so. But the narrative is changing in the fans mindset that has always been for years. Players greedy, millionaires, greedy, greedy, greedy, and people are saying, oh, that's why ticket prices are going up. No, that's not it at all. It's because the owners, the billionaires, the people who are holding your game hostage, don't have all the don't have all the leverage. Right now, you know what, You fans are closer to the players than you. Fans are close to the owners for the most part. For the greedy owners, and to me, I don't think that. I think the game is in a great place. Like KP said, I don't think we miss any games. I think there will be a lockout. But I think owners are going to start to see the fans are on the player's side more than they were in the past twenty five thirty five years.

00:30:21
Speaker 1: For me, I was good up until like forty eight hours ago when hal stein Berner tried to tell everyone that the Yankees aren't profitable, and then I had to rethink life for a while. I was like, hold up, so the Yankees don't make money. They get no checks for owning that team, no checks, And I understand how the business works, just.

00:30:42
Speaker 3: Thinner, not as many. I'm not getting big checks. It's just a bunch of little checks that are handed out, which makes one big.

00:30:51
Speaker 1: Do you think he's going to clarify and be liked? Did I say profit? I meant I meant just a little less profit because we split it with more people. My bad clarification.

00:31:01
Speaker 2: He will never because they'll never have to really show it or approve it, so they're gonna cry wolf. And I think the biggest problem is I think there's just as much as there's a big disparity amongst players salaries, I think there's a greater disparity when it comes to owners and what they really truly want in terms of revenue they make, you know, valuations of their franchise, and how they believe that they can be competitive. So I think to disagree with Krats, I do think there are gonna be some owners that really hold the line this time.

00:31:33
Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, the Braves are profitable. The Yankees are profitable. We see the books for the Brave. All right, let's slap. Kevin Polar sent out a tweet asking for an early wish list for the Black Friday shoppers that love him very much. What would you like from them?

00:32:05
Speaker 2: Well, all of the above, to be honest with you, you know, I was, you know, was just talking to the kids about, you know, making sure they put their list out there. So I wanted to prove to them that even at the age of thirty six, I still have a Christmas list, and I wanted to put it out there. And you know, my wife does receive you know, my notifications when I tweet as well too, So part of it's for Santa, part of it's for my wife as well too. So these are the things that I would love to have. I will probably get none of them, but you know, it's it's fun to dream.

00:32:35
Speaker 4: No, no, no, you got one of them.

00:32:37
Speaker 3: You said you wanted a goat, You got one goat here the whole day you got to work with me.

00:32:42
Speaker 2: That's true. Two goats. Actually, that's all I'm really looking for is two goats, and I get to spend the last two hours with two of them. So check.

00:32:51
Speaker 1: I consider myself more of a barrel sauna, which was on your.

00:32:54
Speaker 3: List, barrelalation, Hepy Thanksgiving.

00:33:01
Speaker 4: I'm thankful for all you guys. M.

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