Thrilla In The Manila Envelope: RHOA Reunion Recap

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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your favorite shows from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, New Jersey and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or scripted as well. Look, we get to recap part one of the Real Housewives of Atlanta reunion. First of all, before we get into the actual show. We never talked about the reunion dresses because I know that all of us have a fashionable eye. So I do want to know who you felt your best dress was. I'll go first. My best dress was Portia. I think Porcha's dress was phenomenal. I loved Angela's and I love Shamillahs. Those are my favorite looks.

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Speaker 2: Yep, today, I.

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Speaker 3: It's a viral union look from she Anyway, what a star you are?

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Speaker 1: You got on your chest? Yo.

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Speaker 4: Porsch's dress ten out of time and she always delivers with the gown like she knows her body's type, like she always dresses right like her. Her looks are you cannot come for them, like, they look really good. That waist was snatched in those new taties were sitting up high.

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Speaker 3: They looked really good.

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Speaker 4: That color the gold I loved, love love her dress and made her look taller, like, she looked really really good.

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Speaker 3: I love Shamia's dress. I love Shamid's dress.

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Speaker 4: It was really a unique and Angela's was not as fancy, but the cutaway were nice and she looked really elegant because she has that really thin kind of like uh, kind of like a modeling type body. I agree with those three. I but I definitely think Portia was definitely best stressed. Absolutely, but they but it was close though, but she she looked fantastic.

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Speaker 3: They don't look fantastic.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna go. These were the best dressed to me on the set. Yeah, Porscha Shamia. Shamia's skin alone, with that those beautiful yellows and greens against her skin, she looked gorgeous. Porscha and Shamia. Angela ugly looked good as hell. She's so fit, She's got a beautiful body. Angela looks great. She looked really really pretty and my girl Cynthia Bailey looked really clean, fresh, simple, straight to the point. She's a model, so the clothes she wears, the clothes the clothes don't wear her.

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Speaker 2: She looked beautiful and that's it. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: I ain't finna tear nobody down like I could.

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Speaker 2: I gave that she was ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: I was like, am I being punked?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: And listen?

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Speaker 5: If we don't looked like she was finna walk a ball? You know how they put you to have like a look when you walk a ball?

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Speaker 3: What walk a what?

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Speaker 1: Like a bar buyer? A ball?

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Speaker 3: Death fall back me?

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Speaker 1: I want to do that.

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Speaker 4: No, she looked like and she's so little. It was too much stuff for her body. So she's too little to have all that stuff on her.

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Speaker 3: Like, I'm like, what is going on?

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Speaker 5: How are we supposed to have a serious conversation and you got all this ship up on top of your head and your ears?

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I don't know how we're supposed to talk, So I don't don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't get her like she she a.

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Speaker 1: Berry well one one dress that we weren't able to see on the show that we were able to see on Instagram today it's brit Edie. So brit Die did post well. Her reunion dress was going to be Claudium Destina. She got seen it. But this is her look. Yeah, that's her dress. Let me give up this one. Another good photo of it style by Paris Chay.

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Speaker 3: Amazing.

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Speaker 1: Okay, listen, beautiful girl.

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Speaker 4: She came on and she waited such a great look, being a pussy and now showing up because she was beautiful.

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Speaker 2: She always got her looks hit.

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Speaker 5: She looks good all the time, and she looks good at the end of reunion dress.

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Speaker 2: It would have been great to see it on the stage.

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Speaker 3: She would have been given Porscha a run for money. It would have been won too.

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Speaker 4: I still think Porscha got her, but still like she was right there on that same level of elegance.

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Speaker 3: The face looked pretty, she looked amazing, but.

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Speaker 4: Like she released the whole trailer like a sizzle reel for a dress for a show she didn't show up for which I thought that was kind of corny. But I would love rather have seen her on that couch, stepping out standing by everything she said, answering questions, facing the music. Then she would have killed if she would, I'll be like giving her all the praises, like yo, she showed up, looked bad as hell, bad meat and good and like held her head up high like yep, I said that no, I did not you lied about this.

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Speaker 3: She should have done. She would have killed it instead of.

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Speaker 2: This show up too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so she did release a statement, and y'all know, I like to make sure to put on my reading glasses to get everything accurate.

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Speaker 3: Just as a journalist.

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Speaker 1: As a journalist, Hey Portia, as a former journalist, Hey Claudia. Claudia enviral this weekend with the baby moment from the reunion, which I enjoyed seeing. Okay, britt Adie said today three hours ago, as I closed this chapter, I want to thank everyone.

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Speaker 4: Claudia and I used to have to give these black ass, fake ass answers that we had to like curate with our pageant coach, and it just gives me like pageant coach for a little miss Sunshine, not the misty with a system that means ken you win, but go ahead, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: Okay a hater.

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Speaker 1: Okay, As I close this chapter, I want to thank everyone who supported me, my friends, Claudia and Dustin. I'm pease my followers.

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Speaker 3: I love everyone, my followers, my.

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Speaker 1: Amazing teams, at everyone who defended my name. I decided to walk away from something that no longer serves me because I choose peace over destroying my mental It's very easy to say well I should have done, when most have not walked a day in my shoes. I choose me, and a lot of people can't say they choose themselves. I still have a lot of healing left to do, but you can't heal in the same place that made you sick. I don't owe anyone closure. I only owe myself to do what's best for me. My journey here is done. Signed Britt with the kissy face and Marlow Hampton liked it. Okay, so I'm so Bessie. I just love me, but Britt not Britt. Well, I'll start, I'll start, I'll start, Hey, were you.

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Speaker 2: Calling one of us Britt?

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Speaker 1: Okay, because not of the battye too, don't get a twisted Okay.

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Speaker 5: We hang out one night, we hang out one night in New York and next thing you know, he's saying, I'm on a poster.

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Speaker 1: Well that that that juice of door, said me allegedly. So I would like to say this, and and and Britt, I know you're watching, Hi, how you doing. I will say this, Hey, Britt, I will say this, Britt. I respect anybody's decision when they do walk away from something that they feel no longer serves them. So my props do and I'm being serious, My proples go out to you. If you felt that this did not serve you, it wasn't peaceful to you, then I think the more the marrior to you to experience whatever your heart's desire. I will say this about Britt.

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Speaker 2: Britt.

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Speaker 1: You can say what you want about her. She's beautiful. That's a beautiful woman. She wears clothes wonderfully. And I said this after the first episode. I was into what Britt was going to bring. I felt that towards the end, Brit was delivering things we all wanted to see in the earlier seasons. I said again that when it came to Brit, I will always have sympathy for her because I don't know what it's like to go through what she went through when although we now know what those weren't her images according to her, I said day one that she deserves grace because unless you know what that felt like, you can't say what her reaction should have been. I definitely have had my opinions on Britt as I should have as a journalist. But what I will say fundamentally is I wish the best for her. I don't know if she ever wants to do reality television again, but what I will say, as the king of reality, brit you do have something you really do. You really do. I thought this was going to be the platform for you to excel on the show. You decided to leave more power to you. But what I will say is there is a future for you on television, and my hope for you is as you take time to heal, I really want you to find a situation that you feel serves you because you are somebody, in my opinion, that has the personality and the look. And although I've been hard on all this stuff, not here for that to talk about today, but I do feel fundamentally you have what it takes to grow this business. So I wanted to end by saying that.

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Speaker 3: It'd be Monday.

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Speaker 4: O Curly, it's not Hay. I'm like once, You're not a girl's girl. I'm off you, and I'm probably off you forever. Like that's like the core of me is, like, you know, I'm a girl's girl with other girls girls. Let me make that clear, not just because you're a girl, like girls that don't do that kind of stuff once you show me now like this, some people that come for it, and you've got to look at the read people that I do come for they usee people that violate girl code, take other girls, men, interfering on people's relationships, or just do this nastiness like liars.

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Speaker 3: I just don't respect those type ten people.

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Speaker 4: Now, even with that being said, I know I've been hard on Bread all season and she deserved every little bit of it. To me, it's like she left at the end when she was actually turning the corner and becoming more likable. Well even I was like, okay, I'm kind of here for this now after like fifteen horrible episodes or fourteen towards the end, she was like coming, the looks got better. She was like kind of being a little bit more like main character energy and doing better, like doing better, and then you quit, Like that's when it wasn't good for your mental health. I would think you would have quit when you were really having a hard time episode two, three, four, five, six, seven eight. That's when she was getting dragged on the internet.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Like, that's so it's kind of confusing where it's like imagine being in a bad relationship where like he's you know, it's abusive, and.

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Speaker 3: He's cheety on you and giving you STDs and all kind.

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Speaker 4: Of stuff, and you don't leave then, right, But then when things get better in your life, that's when you're like, I'm out of here. She she's I don't, I don't, I don't get Maybe that's a bad analogy, but anyways, really well and many.

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Speaker 5: Really know.

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Speaker 4: And when it came out, I was like, oh, I should have thought about this a little bit, but I didn't.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, y'all, Hey, y'all, I love.

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Speaker 1: This show so much.

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Speaker 4: Okay, let me give you make it maybe a job, a bad job when it's at the very worthy of job, but then when it gets better, you're like.

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Speaker 3: I can't take it anymore. That's the last you know, you know, when you're falling and it's too late to catch itself.

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Speaker 6: Yes it's happening now, Yes, go ahead. I was like, did I stick this landing. No, I am was like the whole.

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Speaker 2: Time, straight quick saying, straight up.

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Speaker 3: Unlike some people, we admit when we wrong and we fund up and I really will you are like, oh.

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Speaker 1: I called back quit.

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Speaker 4: When it was better for her and not when it was really Like I could understand brick quitting episode in the mid season because it was bad for her then, but she didn't. She stuck around and she's popping off. And then when we started to like her and people were like the tide was turning for her, she leaves then. And I think that's why a lot of people are like, I love the comments.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I know bad acting. I do TV movies, yep, this book two more so.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, So yeah, I just I'm disappointed because like I even decided to be like a little more interested in her, and I you know, I wasn't hint for her. So yeah, I wish you would have stayed. I wish you would have shut up.

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Speaker 1: These would like for you to save her. Justin go ahead.

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Speaker 2: I so here's my Brit take right as Britt.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I think that Britt was done a disservice and maybe did a disservice to herself. By taking the conflict with Kenya Moore outside of the screen right. I'm not sure if brit was involved in the decision to cease filming with Kenya Moore, but if she was, that was something that was detrimental to her own relationship with the fans because it interrupted the process of us getting to know her and I don't think that that was fair to her. I don't think that was fair to us, and based on her not being on the posters according to the BRIT's own word.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that was fair to Kenya. I think that.

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Speaker 5: Both ladies deserved a full season to figure out that conflict. I think the fandom deserved a full season to get to know Brit and all the things that she had to offer.

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Speaker 2: I do agree with Claudia that Brit.

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Speaker 5: Was blooming towards the end of the season and we were finally getting to know her personality more. I think that Brit there is a place for Brita and television. I think that she has an eye for fashion. She's obviously very well dressed. I think that her and her incredible stylist, Parishet started to shout out to Paris Shay, they should do fashion commentary like a fashion police style show and you know, dress brit up every week or every episode and talk about fashion around the world and entertainment.

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Speaker 2: I would love to see that.

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Speaker 5: There's obviously a place for her elsewhere, but it just didn't work out on this season and the Housewives, and I wish that everybody involved in that interruption of this and could have zoomed out right and looked at the bigger picture of how it would impact.

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Speaker 2: The fans and the ladies on.

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Speaker 5: The cast who deserved their opportunity, their full shot at a full season. So I hate the way it turned out, but I think Bridge a beautiful woman, and I think that her and her stylish parents sha'n't make magic, and so they should explore fashion commentary some sort of format in that way.

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Speaker 3: She definitely got the look thing down, especially towards the end.

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Speaker 4: I will say this, if she does, y'all believe in her to be on television still, And you know that's I mean, I'm sure there's a lot of people that agree with you, but to be a good reality so on college, you know this, you can't be doing the fake shit, you know what I mean? Like, like, there is no place for you because you're gonna be another Phaedra, you know, or another there's a whole bunch of other fakes.

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Speaker 2: Don't do reality. There's other stuff that she could do, you know what.

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Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like, you don't have anything that involves us getting to know her personality or her personal life. She can just work in fashion commentary or something like that, you know what I'm saying, where it's not a window into her life, her personality and exploring her getting along with other women. Fuck all that, Like, just do something else. If you want to be in entertainment, you don't have to be personality.

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Speaker 4: Anything that comes like involves her being authentic is not gonna fly. But if she wants to talk about fashion this she's still gotta do some things.

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Speaker 3: But like that.

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Speaker 4: Faking planes, shopping for planes and cars and all that kind of stuff like that. When you do reality television, everyone looks in date do your immediately have a spotlight on you in a microph microscope and they're going to look into all those things and you're gonna just embarrass yourself. Heard her, Yes, I agree with you. Her and her stylist, that's a great team and she has a.

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Speaker 1: Good idea of Dustin, it's a really good idea. I actually agree with you when it comes to that one. Speaking of her, the reunion started and Drew Sidora revealed, once Andy informed the girls that Britt was not there, that the last time Drew Sidor her from Britt was when Britt threatened to sue her. Drew Sidor said that Britt gave her heads up that she's going to sue her allegedly for her alleged involvement in the photos being shown at king Ya's events by king Ya's poster boards. Everybody seemed to be surprised with that, including myself. I'm out of loss for words when it comes to that because I don't understand it. But Claudia, when you heard that, what was your your thoughts on that?

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Speaker 4: Okay, Britt, once again, this is line of like you you lie so much like you said relates to them in saying it wasn't you. So if Drew Sador allegedly gave pictures of you, not you to Kenya, but wasn't you, how were you suing Drew Sidor for pictures that were never of you? Go by This is why I don't fuck with you, because you don't tell the truth.

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Speaker 3: And when we want to have empathy for you, we cannot.

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Speaker 4: Because you try to make us feel bad all season long that Kenny did this horrible thing to you, all for you to say it wasn't even me in the first place, girl, what is it?

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Speaker 3: Which is it? So Drew, don't even worry about that.

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Speaker 4: Like I said, if you bought that life, fillow lawsuits sue me. And I think this is a lawsuit that is going to be a waste of money. You need to pay that country club first and not worry about this frivolous lawsuits. Like I think it's a waste of time because you by what you did your own actions. I think you kind of mess up your lawsuit by saying it wasn't me. So if Drew sent pictures that weren't you, what.

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Speaker 3: Is she liable for?

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Speaker 2: And this is why I'm pissed off. This is why the whole.

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Speaker 5: Firing Kenya and now now Britt not showing up to the reunion. This is why that pisces us off as fans, because we're left confused.

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Speaker 2: We don't know what the hell went on. We don't know.

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Speaker 5: It is confusing for Bridge to say that the pictures were in fact not her, even though it was a it's to be her, and then also her take umbridge with Drew, you know, in the form of filing a lawsuit if it wasn't her, it wasn't her. We haven't had a chance to find out anything because we haven't had a chance to hear these women speak. We haven't had a chance to hear Kenya and britt talk it out. We haven't had a chance to see Kenya talk to Drew about the alleged photo distribution. We haven't had a chance to hear what anybody had to say because the season was interrupted and then the reunion was interrupted by BRIT's absence, And it just really sucks as a viewer because we're left holding the ball.

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Speaker 2: We don't know what the fuck is going on, Colas.

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Speaker 4: Can you imagine how big of it would have been if they just said, you know what, bit the bullet, had Kenya back and been found away from maybe Kenya and Britain to be off to the side and talk it out like everyone was dying for that conversation. I believe the Kenya that we know would have been open to sit down. You know, I think Kenya will sit down talk with anyone. I mean, if she could be friends of portion dragged, she can, I think she'll sit down with her, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I agree everyone was and it would have been good for Britney.

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Speaker 4: It would have saved made Britain more likable. It would have saved both of them. It would have helped both of them.

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Speaker 1: Actually, this is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show. Listen. I was always the main one saying in a perfect world, listen, I'm not a lawyer. And one thing I always try to remind people, our listeners and our viewers is the fact that like, for example, I'm an executive producer, excuse me, I create shows. My job is to focus on the shows and the work I do. However, when you sell a show to a network, everybody has a boss. There's so many different conglomerates involved, and what a lot of people to understand is legal. When it comes to the legalities of any situation, what you guys may not understand is that they they have they trump creative people. Creatively, you could think something about one thing, but Lego has to protect all parties involved and sometimes it does impact your creative decisions. I agree with you, Claudia. I think Kenya Moore, based on her conversation with tammeron Hall, because I'd love to always type my sources. She did say that she was open to apologizing to her, and I don't know Britt. I've never met Brit. I think Brit would have possibly been open to hearing it out if it's unfortunate that we weren't able to see it. But I do want to remind people that when you have a show on the air, whether it's scripted or unscripted, always remember this. When things don't make a lot of sense, always keep in mind is bigger than all of us. And there's conversation. Even as the creative of my shows, there's conversations that happens outside of me that I can't control. It's the way it works, and I think I think we just got to be mindful of that too.

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Speaker 4: Now, can you get snatch up Brit and have her on not snatch her up like that, but have her on her YouTube channel in the world. Look, they both have I mean, I don't think either one has an obligation to bribe anymore, but imagine if she had her on and then she decided to like extend it all the branch and like, let's talk.

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Speaker 3: I think that'd be a that'd be huge, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but yeah, yeah, I would love to see it. Listen, maybe, like you said, Claudia, in some form of fashion, we will be able to see it in the right environment. But I do think in a perfect world, I would love to see those two hash it out because I think a conversation that we did not see deserves to be seen. Now. One thing we did not see for the whole season was Porscha's house. We were able to see it at the finale. Porscha did talk about it at the reunion. She did tear up as she talked about the divorce with Simon and how it took them nine months to come to an agreement with a prenup, and that one of the stipulations in the prenup was if something happened in their marriage Simon within a certain timeframe, Simon would have to leave the home and still pay the mortgage for a certain amount of years. So that was revealed in this episode. Shamia was asked by Porscha if she thought Simon was a scammer, so that was new to us. Porscha said that, Shamia, I'm sorry. Shemia asked Porscha if she thought Simon was a scammer. Porscha did say that. Smia and Gerald allegedly asked Porsche, well, do you know about Simon? We are hearing things about where he gets his money from. That to me was a big bomb drop. That to me detailed some very pertinent information about the reputation that Simon allegedly had. What did you take from that, Dustin.

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Speaker 5: Listen, It's crystal clear at this point where went on with this Porscha and Simon shit. Porscha is playing it out, you know, saying that it was a love story going wrong. Porscha is not going to date a broke man. We know that Simon was a lick. Porscha hit it, did what she had to do and came off good.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: She got a good deal in her divorce settlement, per what we've been privy to online. Let's just leave it there. I think that Porscha's ready to leave it there too. During the reunion, she said, listen, when they were trying to pin the burden of responsibility of her and Simon's coupling on some and right, and they were saying that Shamiah was the matchmaker and Porscha wouldn't cop to it. Porscha said, listen, let me just take all the heat for this, she said, I'm all parties involved have moved on. I took him, I gave him back. That's it. That's how you know that this was something that is finished for her and in order for it to be complete. It was not true love. It was something that had a start and a stop day. If I'm being clear enough, right, this is not a love story. This is a lick that Porsche hit. Simon was using her, she was using him. Now it's over. It's that simple.

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Speaker 3: I think they came up.

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Speaker 4: I think the Samia introduced us was a reverse engineering after the fact that Porsche did reach out to Simon and his DMS and said, how you going with doing this divorce? And it looked back to say that when she was introduced on the show to found now come on, go and take a turn that people probably wouldn't expect. I'm gonna give Porscher props. Porscha is the first American to scam in Nigerian and when Claudia ex usually yeah, that that's a little thing that's going around online.

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Speaker 3: I didn't make that up, but I did definitely agree. I'm like, I'm not mad. Now if me and Porsche were like talking whatever, like if we were friends, I am complimenting her because because Pete.

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Speaker 1: This say she's the first American.

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Speaker 3: That's one point for America.

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Speaker 4: Okay, because a woman I asked with the scamming limits, he is a true American, so listen, not only a journalist, but a true American, So listen. I told people a long time ago through my sources that Simon got his money by ill begotten ways.

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Speaker 3: Allegedly.

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Speaker 4: I had heard that he intercepted a wire transfer allegedly that wasn't for him, and that was the majority of his wealth. Now, throughout the entire time we saw Simon on television, we can never find out what his businesses were. Where was the office. It was like a fact machine, like he had no like nothing. You cannot find his business online. No, I didn't do a deep dive. I just was looking at Teasa Tales videos and some others, but like you couldn't really verify. I'm not mad at Porsche because Simon obviously was using I'm not Simon was obviously using Porsche for the fame.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people that have money in their.

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Speaker 4: Corny right, they they desired the things that that money can't buy, the the the current, the social currency, the attention.

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Speaker 3: So what do you do.

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Speaker 4: You attach yourself to a beautiful, popping, famous girl and you instantly get no new who Simon was three years ago, four years ago, and now we all know who Simon is. So I'm mad at Porsche because he was gonna use her for her beauty and her proximity to what her fame.

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Speaker 3: And she said, all right, cool, And at the end of the day, she didn't come up on him.

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Speaker 4: This is the this is the the prenup that he agreed to. All she wanted was for him to them to enforce what he agreed to. She didn't try to get more than the agreements that she wanted. What was the prenup, Simon, that's your fault. So while you was over here, you trying to scam her, you got scammed.

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Speaker 3: And I'm I'm one.

00:28:05
Speaker 4: I am team Porsch for this. One point for America, five points for Atlanta.

00:28:11
Speaker 3: I love it. Oh, girl, I'm not mad.

00:28:15
Speaker 4: At you, and I knew believe you all lights and if you did, I'm not even mad about that either. You got to film in that house and the house is dope. I'm just saying, now, that's the tea that I've heard on him.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, Badia, you had me at fax machine because I don't know what.

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Speaker 3: Right machine. That's just so like, get you some docu signed some sign easily. I don't know. Caam scammer.

00:28:46
Speaker 4: That's all kinds of scamner cam scammer for him. But yeah, he tried to he tried to play her and he got played.

00:28:53
Speaker 3: I love it. I love that I do.

00:28:54
Speaker 1: Okay, not listen, not to ship gears. Off the topic of Atlanta Housewives. Well, I do want to have a conversation about something Claudia said, because I listen. I love to have a real conversation about things that everybody can relate to. Claudia is alleging that portion Simon, both use each other. Okay, you rich men always use beautiful women for Okay, so let's let's have a rich man. Okay, So let's have a conversation when it comes to relationships, right, should it be a situation where it's it's it's it's okay to know that we're both in a situation that's mutually beneficial for the both of us, and no one should be mad if this relationship ends, because at the end of the day, I want something out of you, you want something out of me. We both understand that. Let's get together, let's see how it works. I'm not talking about portion Simon in that case. I'm just saying in general, is that something that is okay that you think think should should just be something that people shouldn't judge.

00:30:03
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think people have every right to set the terms and boundaries for their relationships as they wish. A rich man and a beautiful woman as a tale as all this time, that's not nothing new and for years, for centuries forever, you know what I mean, Like men with money and power have used that to persuade beautiful women who otherwise would not be into them, to be into them. And the same vice versa beautiful women. You know, they with money, you know what I'm saying, they can persuade or ugly women with money can persuade a beautiful man to be with the same thing, man, man, whatever the configuration of the relationship is and that's just the way the game goes. So I don't think for one second Simon thought that Porsha, you know, got wet when she looked at him, just because you know what I'm saying, I think that he knows what was going on. I think that Porsha obviously knew what was going on. And let's just be clear.

00:30:58
Speaker 2: She won.

00:30:58
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, She got a bag. She's getting a bag every month. She gets to use that house for I think three more years.

00:31:05
Speaker 2: She won. That's the price that you pay.

00:31:07
Speaker 5: That's the risk he took in involving himself in the relationship, and unfortunately, that's the reward she got for him.

00:31:13
Speaker 2: It's unfortunately not for her. So I ain't tripping. This is the game.

00:31:17
Speaker 5: That's just how the game goes, and I don't think there's anything wrong with it as long as everybody agrees to be a participant, as long as everybody is consensual.

00:31:25
Speaker 2: Fuck it, yeah, I.

00:31:27
Speaker 3: Agree with you.

00:31:28
Speaker 4: Like we can sit there and be judgy like, oh, you've got that man for his money, and then we can also flip and be like, Okay, well you got with that woman because of her looks like you know, maybe at some point in the relationship. I mean I remember seeing them online sometimes at events and they look like they were happy.

00:31:42
Speaker 3: But you know, it is fun.

00:31:43
Speaker 4: When you're getting what you want, like you're getting a sexy person on your arm, and you're getting a rich man on your arm, Like you.

00:31:48
Speaker 3: Can be happy.

00:31:48
Speaker 4: There's different areas of happy. Happy is not just black and white, the gray areas. And then clearly was working for them for a while until it didn't. Until it didn't, you know what I mean. So I mean, listen, she has a strong stomach, and he was you know, she earned off twenty million ten or whatever that is.

00:32:06
Speaker 3: And she did she should get it. Listen.

00:32:09
Speaker 2: Can you imagine that's why she was.

00:32:13
Speaker 5: She was dancing at them Africa, on the weddings they had, she was dancing in on them videos and shit, she was ready, man, because that money was finn to roll on end and she was simple.

00:32:24
Speaker 3: Like she was doing her dances like Ryan.

00:32:27
Speaker 4: I was like, okay, por, I'm not even being shady to her now, I'm really not, like I'm not mad like he probably thought, I'm gonna get this dumb girl and you know, just throw some money at her and I'm gonna be on housewives.

00:32:39
Speaker 3: You know, he wanted to. He wanted to be on housewives.

00:32:43
Speaker 5: And that's what makes me side with Porscha if I if I'm taking a side, I guess that's what makes me be closer to Porsa's pov of things because I don't like guys like that. I thought it was mad corny that he continues to have something to say. I thought it was corny that he tried and was successful that Black and Porsche from filming in that crib during the season. You want to get a divorce, Just get a divorce and going down the street, you know what I'm saying. Like, I thought that all of the pettiness and the intentional like messiness, it really turned me off towards Simon and anything that he had to say.

00:33:15
Speaker 4: So and then he was kind of being like real messy boots like online, like he was building a lot of subliminals and stuff to her. Yeah, that was real corny too, like he was being like kind of a bitch.

00:33:26
Speaker 3: Afterwards, it was annoying. Get a whole segments like I love it.

00:33:32
Speaker 1: Why No, it was good to listen. I think it's well both of you said at the end of the day, it's finally over and maybe they both experience happiness separately. Now, as we sort of wrap up this Simon Porsche situation, I do want to bring up something that occurred at the reunion, and that is the conversation of Kelly, who was asked whether or not she was being shady in the first episode of the season when she asked Portia, why did she take that woman's husband. Kelly was questioned whether or not she won the moment or she really was concerned about it. I'll start and I want Claudia to go next. I'll say this, y'all know, I love Kelly. Kelly is a ten out of a ten when it comes to her presses on the show and her value on the show. I would love to see Kelly come back. I love love some Kelly Kelly. Now look in my opinion, says, and you know, I love you and I'm not mad at it. Kelly won the moment, and I'm not mad at it. I said a day one, no one in real life walks up to a person at a gathering and say, why did you take that lady's husband? But it's not a bad thing. You're on the show, you're new, and you wanted to get your your presence. Know. I felt it was the same way about Kelly doing that for a moment, the same way I felt about Britt egging Kenya on for a moment. I think those two new girls came in like, we know, we got to do something with these vets, and look, I think Porscha clock did, which is why she gave it nothing. And listen, that's not shade towards Kelly Ethan because that's the job Kelly was hired to do, is to ask tough questions because at the end of the day that first scene, episode one, she had zero alliance, zero friendship with Porscha, so rightfully show asked a question. So yeah, that's how I felt. I felt Kelly did it because she won the moment and rightfully so.

00:35:35
Speaker 3: It definitely made you pay attention to her out the gate.

00:35:37
Speaker 4: And she's also was there where she wasn't the only knew b It was Shamiah, it was Angela, it was brit was her, and that kind of made her stand out like whoa.

00:35:44
Speaker 3: She's kind of fearless.

00:35:45
Speaker 4: And a lot of times when you come on the new girls are like kind of timid, like they don't really know what they can they should or shoudn't do. And I mean, of course, if you're Poorscho, you're gonna be offending. Like girl in Portia, I'd be right to be like, mind your business. I don't know you like that. We asked me those kind of questions like who are you? Did Porscha did Clockett?

00:36:03
Speaker 3: And she did?

00:36:04
Speaker 4: You know, she's a veteran of reality. She's gonna clock it and not fall for it. But I think that it was a good move for Kelly. But I could definitely see why Porscha would be irritated by it. But like girl by, who are you you know?

00:36:17
Speaker 5: So yeah, I think Kelly saw and seized an opportunity there, right because Porscha this was her return. She left the show after season thirteen, and that's when, coincidentally, her relationships with Simon moved forward and progressed towards marriage. And with the controversial nature of the beginning of their relationship, no one had been able to who kind of address it, even mention it, and we had not seen Porsche address it at all until that moment. I think Kelly saw that opportunity and it was in her mind, it was like they were.

00:36:49
Speaker 2: Playing musical chairs and the music stopped.

00:36:51
Speaker 5: She ran to get to see before anybody else could, and she brought up, you know what I'm saying, the elephant in the room, which was Porsche, her couple with Simon. That's what she did. And so whether people feel like it was right or wrong, it definitely made us pay attention to Kelly, and it was her introduction into the fold.

00:37:10
Speaker 3: And really, if you.

00:37:11
Speaker 4: Think about a Portra got it pretty easy because this season of her returning was the season we all thought we would get those kinds of conversations. So she basically only got one moment where she was really pressed about it, and the rest of the season really wasn't about that, Like she wasn't able to well wasn't.

00:37:26
Speaker 3: It wasn't a thing.

00:37:26
Speaker 4: So that was like compared to what we all thought it was gonna be. We thought the whole scene, sure, right.

00:37:32
Speaker 5: For sure, just like Phaedra right, people have nobody's really they've they've likely you know, addressed Phaser's exit from the show, and you know, she hasn't really had to talk about it, you know what I'm saying up until this point, So I think it's the same, and I understand it because part of it is like that shit was years ago in both cases, right, like who wants to address the past or whatever? But then other people will feel like Kelly felt like fuck that there's an opportunity here and I'm getting ready to ask the question, you know what I mean.

00:38:02
Speaker 2: So you just can't get mad at it.

00:38:03
Speaker 1: To me, yeah, no you can't. It's reality TV one on one and Kelly did the job that she was supposed to do. So again, I felt she did it for those reasons, and no one could tell me different. Now I'm sorry.

00:38:17
Speaker 4: If you were producing in that episode and you were like in the booth or wherever you guys are off the side watching with the headphones.

00:38:23
Speaker 3: Video billy, yeah, would you be like yes?

00:38:26
Speaker 4: Would that be a moment where producers were like hell yeah, Like that would be like a yes.

00:38:30
Speaker 1: Well no, yes, Cal I would have done this like clock it like clock The thing is this one thing and I share this all month and night.

00:38:37
Speaker 2: Lie.

00:38:38
Speaker 1: One thing that I detest is when reality stars who are on the show they use other people to bring us something they know, whether it's bringing in some random person, whether it's feeding it to the producers, hoping that again, I can't speak for the show, I'll speak for the ones I work on. So I felt that to say I would have been gagged in the best way possible that Kelly asks a question. That's the elephant in the room. And I also think a lot of people discredit Porsche when it comes to Porscha knew coming back to that season, like Dustin said, her being gone soon thereafter you know her and Simon got together. She knew that was gonna come up. She knew it. She may not have thought it was gonna come up that day by Kelly. I think Porscha propably thought, okay, King's gonna ask me that, right, But I also think she knew, she was prepared for it. So yeah, that's why I listen. I will give Kelly her props. It's okay to have uncomfortable conversations instead of you bringing on some random friend that you see for two seconds and the next thing you know, you don't see them no more. So so rain drops. Whenever you see a person drop a bomb and you see them no more, it's because they were put up to that by the star. But AnyWho, little teap of y'all too. Now. With that being said, Kelly and Porscha had a back and forth in regards to the divorce. Porsche felt that, Kelly, you're going through divorce, you should know how I felt. Kelly was like, look, you were married for eleven months. I was married for eleven years. Were not the same. And Porsche felt that that was Kelly's way of discrediting her emotions. Did you guys spelt that way too, Dustin when when you heard that?

00:40:32
Speaker 5: I laughed personally, I was like, damn, Kelly. Kelly was dribbling a ball all between her legs at that point. I was like, she is literally holding cord on this stage. And it was funny to me because I don't think Porscha saw that response coming in real time, and you could tell because it kind of threw her off. Kelly was very much She interrupted Porsche's dialogue like, well, I'm just saying, don't compare the two.

00:40:53
Speaker 2: I was married for eleven years. You were married for eleven months.

00:40:55
Speaker 5: And Porsche was like, oh, so mine doesn't matter, and that's exactly what Kelly was saying basically, and Kelly just kind of said in it like so I loved it and I thought it was great, A great Housewives volley of conversation between Kelly and Porsche on that reunion stage.

00:41:11
Speaker 2: I loved it.

00:41:15
Speaker 3: I think it'd be one thing if we all thought, and we're a.

00:41:19
Speaker 1: Did Simon cut off your WiFi? It's a fact machine at Simon's office is not working for you today, said for Dubai or Nigeria or for Cape Chile. Still very much a live child.

00:41:45
Speaker 5: He said, I might have been in the ice. I'm putting that Wi Fi on ice now with the Wi Fi on ice, Yes he did.

00:41:56
Speaker 2: That is hilarious. Damn man. Well listen, well.

00:42:00
Speaker 1: Look does that?

00:42:02
Speaker 3: Yes?

00:42:07
Speaker 1: Look the shops go on, Claudia, if you have been her wires dog, that's.

00:42:19
Speaker 5: And he didn't caught ice on the damn Wi Fi. You know in Texas they coming to get you. You call ice in Texas way, So damn.

00:42:28
Speaker 1: Claudia. If you're okay, so welcome, Yes child, Monday night, live child. But I will say this, I did feel like, okay. Going through a divorce is something that is just so devastating that, in my opinion, whether it's eleven months or eleven years, having a man attack you online and going wars in general is tough, especially when you're in the public eye. And I think because Porsche Listen, Porsia celebrity is at the highest that it's ever been, so anything time it did was on from page Street, from the Shade Room to a neighborhood talk, to the Jasmine brand, to page six to everywhere. And I think when it comes to Kelly, yes, Kelly was married for eleven years, and not to discredit her divorce, that was awful what she experienced, and I feel it. But I do think the difference is Kelly's divorce for eleven years was never made public until she got on the show, until I go, so yeah, and I think that the years may be different, but I think the weight of what Porstia had to deal with with the being so public, eleven months probably did feel like eleven years to her.

00:43:49
Speaker 5: I see what you're saying, basically, like their experience as housewives going through a divorce is kind of fucked up, and that's something that they can share in common, no matter how long the duration of the relationship. Dealing with that in public can be tough for anybody, and I feel her, But Kelly tore her up when she said that I mean Kelly did said that Carlos, she did.

00:44:10
Speaker 1: No Listen baby, Kelly, Kelly, if your watchings, I know you are, Baby. You were outstanding this region. Brain drops leven of the comments I thought Kelly for a first time reunion woman on that show, I thought she did a fabulous job. Been out of a ten performance for Kelly Parrell. Fantastic right. The other person who I thought was great dusted was Drew Sodorra and.

00:44:41
Speaker 2: I was just about to go there with you, Drew.

00:44:45
Speaker 5: Drew has gotten settled into her shoes as a housewife when it comes to explaining herself, when it comes to having a casual, nonchalant disposition in the heated conversation on that stage, all of those things. We forgot how bad that dress look as Drew was talking, because she was just saying things that were so relevant, poignant and funny and timely, and she was getting in their ass. It was great. Drew actually had a great reunion. It's part one.

00:45:16
Speaker 1: That just said, what, oh, Claudia, are you okay? Nothing happened.

00:45:28
Speaker 4: I think I've been flagged ever since I started talking about Simon and scamming and immigration status. I think I got flagged I don't know if I can hear y'all. You were saying, did Simon turn.

00:45:39
Speaker 2: Up your.

00:45:44
Speaker 1: Bead? Dusted had the best time? Uh, but so Claudia, we're about to get into Drusidora. I thought Drews Door had a great reunion as well. Listen, Drews Door gave a moment that has trended on Twitter when she told Portia Simon says, you don't have a storyline.

00:46:10
Speaker 3: She ate, is this what they're doing?

00:46:13
Speaker 2: That's what now.

00:46:15
Speaker 4: Listen, Jusy Door, the cousin of me and Michael Jordan. You me, Juicy Door, Michael Jordan, Eric Bennet, whose last name is really Jordan.

00:46:26
Speaker 3: We're all cousins, so I have to yes, Jordan, that's my cousin.

00:46:32
Speaker 1: Me.

00:46:32
Speaker 3: Yes, jus her neighbor.

00:46:34
Speaker 1: Her name was Hallie Jordan at one point Halle Barry as our.

00:46:38
Speaker 3: Cousin as well. Listen, drews Dor has all famous cousins you didn't know.

00:46:44
Speaker 1: Thank you yo.

00:46:46
Speaker 4: When she but so quick and when you use a relevant name or whatever in your clap back in real time, that means you did not pre pre recorded, you didn't pre write it. It was in the spuriler moment chef's kids cousin.

00:47:04
Speaker 2: I don't know, I.

00:47:07
Speaker 5: Must say, and now I think it was delivered flawlessly, right, But I definitely think that that was written and and you know, arranged before it was delivered.

00:47:21
Speaker 2: I will say.

00:47:22
Speaker 1: Arranged like the vocals in her booth.

00:47:25
Speaker 5: Did she delivered at the right time? Yes, but I definitely think that you know, somebody had cleared that's not.

00:47:33
Speaker 1: Listen, I'm adusting. I don't think listen this is and listen, we loved you. And the read still is the read. The thing is this. The thing is this. You can have prepared reads in your head before you go on. Like for example, anybody that goes on the reunion, they know like I'm gonna address this, I'm gonna talk about that. But I will say this, I agree with all of you guys. Claudia is right. And what she ate that deathn't is right. I think she she knew going in when to say it. The beauty of her read is Okay, I'll goost say this. For example, when Marlow Hampton told Kim Zezi Act Season Purple Union, Kim, I really thought me and you would get along because I felt like you and I are the same person. You know what, scratch that, We're not the same person. You're a whore, like.

00:48:32
Speaker 5: You know, like, let's take it a step further, low right, stay there, stay there, a goodreed, agreed, Let's take it a step further. The difference right now, now, that was incredible. You could tell she wrote it. But look at the difference between when Cynthia and Marlowe were sitting on that couch and to each other tearing Kim ass up and Kim was like, Cynthia, I don't even know why you're talking right now, and.

00:48:58
Speaker 2: Cynthia was like, I don't even know.

00:48:59
Speaker 5: You got their dress on, and immediately marlow looked at Cynthia and started Leaft said it looked like she going to parm Now that was in the moment, that was off the dome, that was off the top of her head, and that was straight up. And there's a difference. You get what I'm saying. You can tell this, Yes, yes, Britain as.

00:49:16
Speaker 2: Opposed to the shit that's just firing off the dome in the moment.

00:49:19
Speaker 5: Yes, both great, both impactful, both landed, but there's just a difference in them.

00:49:25
Speaker 4: Yes, No, I'm standing on business for Drew I feel like Drew gets a bad rap because you know why. I think people don't like the way she dresses. And I get that too. Will be so moved by someone being able to dress, and because you like the way someone dresses, y'all, not y'all, but people will get so many accolades and they are better than they really are, and someone that doesn't dress as well or is in deemed dress as well has.

00:49:49
Speaker 3: A hard time. I can't stand her. I don't like her.

00:49:52
Speaker 4: All you people out here in YouTube land, y'all make me sick. All y'all care about is a label. The way people turn and got on Kim Carter Dick after dragging her because she's leveled up with the clothes.

00:50:03
Speaker 3: It showed me all I need to know about the public. That's what y'all be caring about.

00:50:08
Speaker 4: Drew gets her criticism, but let's not act like that was the first time she ate because also, need I remind everybody in the season when she was sitting across from Britt whatever and she said, did you sell the cat or whatever?

00:50:20
Speaker 1: The cat?

00:50:21
Speaker 3: She's been kind of coming with it, not kind of, she's been coming with it this season. I think it's time for.

00:50:25
Speaker 4: Treating her crops agree that regard. I feel like Drew gets treated really badly and I don't know why. And I think it's because some people don't admire or love the way she dresses. But she did step up her lamb this season, and you cannot You know all season I loved her lamb. I didn't love her dressing.

00:50:40
Speaker 1: No, she know Drew is great and that's why I want you to come back. Claudia Chante wants to know did you write that read for Drew?

00:50:50
Speaker 3: If I would have wrote it, it would have been a lot meaner now.

00:50:56
Speaker 4: Lyrics in the day, I used to write La no One's famous, like Struggle Rappers, but I still did it.

00:51:04
Speaker 1: I had on me.

00:51:06
Speaker 4: I should have wrote it for next season, Drew, I'm available.

00:51:09
Speaker 2: Yea.

00:51:10
Speaker 1: So one thing that also happened. The reason why Drew also had a Stiller blessed me, excuse me performance at the reunion is Andy Cohen played a video of an interview that Drew did with this blogger content creator journalist named Chase of the No Chaser TV. So follow him on Instagram. Shout out to No Chaser TV. Shout out to Chase, He's amazing. I love Him. On that podcast, drew sient that Porsche's return was a flop, and she stood on that. Do y'all think Port's return was a flop?

00:51:57
Speaker 2: I don't think that.

00:51:58
Speaker 5: I think that it was not what people thought it was going to be, right, which was seeing Porsche lived this great life with this husband that people didn't think she should have in the first place. And I think that because it was not that people deemed it a flop, and because we never really saw Porsche have a breakdown or lose control or be crying uncontrollably, because she kind of held it together all season, it did not feel it feel like, you know, we were really getting to see what was going on in her life. So I mean, if that's what your if that's what the barometer is, then yeah, if that's what you're basing it on. I didn't think her season was a flop, but some people do, and.

00:52:36
Speaker 3: I'm one of them. I think I do, and I think she's too.

00:52:42
Speaker 4: And it's it's a cent to her being a big personality. For someone with that much personality, that much charisma, that much that we all know is really going on in her life, we would have wanted to see more a lot of times in the scenes she was operating more as a friend of the show. Yes, a lot of it was because she was kind of capped at the knees by the Simon thing, But a lot of times she was like worrying about petty shit. But she wasn't like it seemed like Angelo was a housewife. It seemed like Drew was a house Like we got a lot of their personal stuff and they were at the center of a lot of things. Porscha kind of came off as almost like a plus one in some of the in some regards, even though she's you know, she's Porsche. But she didn't really get the same like grandness in this season as she had in other seasons. I would say, you know what I mean, Like it was always, you know, there's in radio, there's the the initiator, and then there's the responder, the sidekick, and she was more responding to other people's stuff than initiating her own, moving her own storyline forward, which you know, again she was.

00:53:44
Speaker 3: Handicapped, capped at the knees by the whole Simon thing.

00:53:46
Speaker 4: So maybe next season it could be more about her and what she has going on instead of is worrying about Drew and her baby daddy that she knows weren't messing around, worry about goofy shit, you know what I mean. Like, you know she was kind of off her square, but you know she looked good.

00:54:02
Speaker 1: Well, no, I will say this, Well.

00:54:07
Speaker 4: So I'm a ball of sunshine. I'm just so happy these days. I'm in such a good place.

00:54:12
Speaker 1: It's the yellow shirt with the star in the middle that I think really got your You're rare sunshine, beautiful girl. So I will say this rather or not you thought her in terms a flop, and this is to the audience. What I will say is, I thought she. I thought Porsche, Kelly and Drew owned this part WEM reunion and I think Porsche owned it. One thing about Porscha that I saw part WEM Reunion that I would love to get your thoughts on. You can't deny her star power. Like she has this presidence where she's able to control the energy in the room and it is undeniable. And she really is sort of like the future of that show in terms of like how many more years it has with her on the show. She beat there that long, but she definitely has a presence and I did appreciate her even hugging Drew because I did feel like, look, she knew that a and she admitted, yeah, I did this scene with Rap has to get back. She admitted it. And listen, one thing about the three of us, that is one thing the three of us agreed, don that we all knew that was not some I just so happened to walk in and we all knew what it was. She admitted that it was her lick back, and she decided to give Drew a hug. What did y'all think about that, Claudia in terms of did you think person getting up to hug Drew was genuine or did she do it because she knew, Look, this beef is stupid, as tired as stale, and I don't want to go into the next season feeling this.

00:55:57
Speaker 4: I hope it was genuine because at one point I believe they were friends right like they were they were cool before, So hopefully it was, because it does seem like when the kitchen gets hot sometimes for a show, she kind of cops to cop out a little bit, so the getting up hanging when she got up at first, I'm like, oh shit, run. Last time she got a bottle reunion share. Carlins King got to carry out the other room, give her attention. You know she was an aggressive but anyways, that's the hand o there.

00:56:22
Speaker 3: Oh, you're a great friend to those you love. You are you are a great friend two people. I love all the girls.

00:56:28
Speaker 1: Look at the victim. You don't let's talk about it because you know what I'm look at. Look at dust it. I'm glad you brought it up. I'm glad you brought it up. I'm glad you brought it up because I don't think people understood my position. So rain drops, who are still tagging me whenever there's a marathon and Bravo and they showed the bar dusted, that's it. I get tag. I'm like, Carlins King, that was you, that was me.

00:56:55
Speaker 5: Sho, I'm with them, big ass daffodil had remember them platform daffodils everybody wore back then.

00:57:03
Speaker 2: She had them on when she was kicking her.

00:57:05
Speaker 1: I've embarrassed myself. When she was kicking in.

00:57:09
Speaker 3: Little with the balls.

00:57:11
Speaker 4: I was like, damn, yes, okay, go ahead, tell us, tell us because we've been waiting for not ten eleven years.

00:57:16
Speaker 3: This is an exclusive.

00:57:17
Speaker 1: Y'all exclusive, Okay, So come closer.

00:57:21
Speaker 2: Okay.

00:57:22
Speaker 1: So it was a stormy night in Atlanta. We're filming at the bit More. It's Porsche's second reunion. It's kenya second reunion, and Porsche versus Kenya was the hot topic of the evening. Right long story shore Kenya brought props and in the beginning was funny, like the the scepter. All that was funny, Porsche snatched it whatever. So this story is me being completely honest. So listen that rain drows, I'm aout to tell y'all. Okay. So I'm sitting on the stage. So when the reunion takes for Atlanta, I would sit on the stage because the girls would need to give me eye contact for me to understand, like what they were going through or want it or need it whatever. So when Porscha snatched the scepter, my antenna's raised and I said, Okay, this ain't gonna be great. Let me inch a little bit closer. This is a true story. So when Porscha got up, I am from Detroit, Michigan. When two black girls get up, they ain't there to like just to stell woof tickets right for my people? So if y'all watch that particular moment when Porsche got up in it, when Kenya's face, I'm breaking a card again an orange pant docors, mind you, I having a white T shirt. I get up out of my folded chair and I try to hold Porsche back because I knew that Porsche and Kenya may I feared to be come physical. So if y'all watch it, I get up and I'm trying to hold Porsche back from doing anything. But she made contact with the hair, and if y'all watch it, we all it's me Porsche in the hair. We all do this together, right. So I am holding her because I don't want her to do anything. As I'm shaking my bracelet. I'm doing that, and then Kenya, to her credit boom got up and left the building. I was holding her so I wasn't choosing side. I literally made contact with her and I held her down so that she couldn't do more. That's all it was.

01:00:02
Speaker 4: See I remember you carrying her away like she was the damn dress.

01:00:06
Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. Like Dustin said, because.

01:00:11
Speaker 4: He's pointing at me, look out he's breathing me down. Though I love it, I'll do it, okay.

01:00:20
Speaker 1: So okay, like Dustin said, she's she's she's slamming her heels on the pavement, and we take her shoes off. We took off her shoes so she was barefoot. So when Porsche was ready to go back to her dressing room. At the end of the day, I'm a man, okay, and I'm not going to have a woman walk barefoot on some dirty pavement. So because and again I'm not lying, I can watch it when I pick up portion and carry her, it's because she did not have on any shoes. And yes, I did do this to her because listen, at the end of the day, I'm a human being. It's a woman who said out loud, I just ruined my career. I can't believe this. I embarrassed myself, and I'm a human being. I felt sorry for her. It was horrible, That's what happened.

01:01:17
Speaker 5: Well, it made sense to me during the time people were shocked at the reactions from both ladies. I was not This is a reality show. These are black women on this show, and culturally black people us. We we've had to defend ourselves against so many things that we you know, we get to it when we're in the moments like that, and that's just how that went down. What's really dope is that Kenya was a real enough woman, you know what I'm saying, to make amends with Portia, actually be her friend. When they both had their daughters, they formed a friendship. Even like earlier in season sixteen when we saw them together, it was fun, it was light.

01:01:54
Speaker 2: They was able to move on from that. That's how you know.

01:01:57
Speaker 5: It was a real moment that was not scripted obviously, and.

01:02:01
Speaker 2: It was just unforgettable.

01:02:03
Speaker 5: I'll never forget that episode, the scene, the moment, none of that. That's what we got made me called Porsche. We got so many things from that. I'll just I will never ever forget that.

01:02:12
Speaker 1: That's reunion see the things re union but go down history in my opinion as the best re union in the history of television.

01:02:19
Speaker 4: I just thought it was personal limit. I know, we gotta move on because why we still talk. We've been talking about the girl full long time. Girls, I got whiplash, although you're instigating the girl that got beat up and lost the fight and got dragged down by her hair in a gown, which is extremely humiliating. Everyone rallied around Porsche like petting her, are you okay? And Kenya's over there, the one that just got whiplash, and you can you know say she instigated? Yes, they were, you know, Portra grabbed her set there can you was pointed towards her. Obviously there was definitely some instigating. But at the end of the day, if if you want a reality show and instigating triggers, you get off a reality show because you're gonna be fighting every three episodes because that's what they do all season long. They instigate each other and a lot. So I just found I remember, like everyone kind of around one person and then the other girl.

01:03:08
Speaker 3: That got dragged literally was off.

01:03:11
Speaker 4: Just whether I'm friends with her, y'all put a lot not y'all put a lot on my friendship with ken y'all talk to Kenya like once a year, maybe every other year.

01:03:18
Speaker 3: We were never tight like that.

01:03:20
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm still looking at it like from an outsider in a way. So anyway, yes, that was an epic reunion until this day, there's so many lines, but.

01:03:30
Speaker 3: How we get this far into this anyway?

01:03:33
Speaker 1: But it's all good.

01:03:36
Speaker 5: The original question was whether or not I thought that the hug was sincere between Drew on the reunion stage, and my answer to that question is, yes, it was sincere. But it also at the same time was I definitely understood that Porsche understood it to be a power play.

01:03:55
Speaker 2: That's a position too.

01:03:56
Speaker 5: When you initiate the truth, when you initiate the peace, that's a power move. It establishes dominance over the other person because you have now been able to set the tone and set the energy because you wanted it that way. So Porsche, even though I do think she wanted to like end the beef, she also knew that she's getting up saying, you know what, give me a.

01:04:15
Speaker 2: Hug, like because I want it to be over. That's a power move and that establishes dominant So that would look crazy.

01:04:21
Speaker 4: If Drew would have kept going on to that, they'd be like, Drew, let it go. She apologized, she hugged you, and that's how it goes.

01:04:26
Speaker 3: So it was a good like. It was a good move.

01:04:28
Speaker 4: I think, you know, I'm glad she's responding better to Prussia than she used to because before it be more hands. In this way, it's more verbal and I think that is growth and we will give credit for that.

01:04:41
Speaker 1: Moving on to me accusations that blown out in this reunion, which is Britt allegedly told Porsche there was an alliance to take Porscha down and though were at the hands of a meeting at Houston's Seattha Houston's when I was when I wasn't vegan, the Hawaiian steak was the best thing on the menu. Okay. So Britt allegedly told Porscha that allegedly at Houston's child at Atlanta Honey and Bucket, that Shamia, Kelly, and Britt had a meeting to take Porsche down. Samia said that it's not true. In fact, Samia alleged that Porsha, Shamia, Britt, and Kelly all met and they had a meeting to form an alliance. Porscha denied it, denied it and said the alliance has ruined shows, and she said she wasn't a part of it. Shamia and Kelly gave each other a look as if it was as if it was true, and Britt was nowhere to be found dustin. Do you believe that there was an alliance between Porsche, Britt, Kelly and Shamia or do you think the alliance was Shamia, Britt and Kelly.

01:06:09
Speaker 5: I think that the alliance was was Shamir, Britt and Kelly, and I think that there was a conversation had amongst this. This is me assuming and creating this, but just follow me. I think that they had a conversation with when they started filming or before they started filming with those three ladies plus Porsche. Okay, so I think that those three ladies had their alliance, then they had a conversation with Porsche, because obviously Shamia and Porscha have a long standing relationship and they included Porscha in on whatever it was. But I don't give a fuck about none of that because don't come telling me later. Like to me, I'll check the person that brings me the information after the breakdown of a relationship. Don't come telling me what you and another motherfucker did behind my back to conspire against me just at this time because you fell out with them. I don't like that, and to me, that would just nullify whatever the information was instantly, and I would tell everybody to get lost. So to answer your question, yes, I do think there was an alliance or a conversation about holding each other down and protecting each other. You know what I'm saying, But don't come telling me what somebody else said about me just because you're not cool with them no more, because you said in that conversation and wasn't going to say anything to me. If you are, would have still been on good term. So that's all.

01:07:29
Speaker 4: I also how to figure out who was lying, Like, Okay, I could see newbies getting along and doing an alliance together, but then at the time that was early in the season where Shamia and Porsche was so good and Shamiah, you know.

01:07:42
Speaker 3: People can't have it both ways.

01:07:44
Speaker 4: They can't sit here and say Shamia is Porscha's lap dog and does all the dirty work for her and has her back and it's blind to anything that's cracks in their friendship. Then also say that Shamiah was in a secret alliance against Porsche very early on in the season.

01:07:58
Speaker 3: I don't buy that. I don't know. But then Porscha did seem believable, but she was like.

01:08:02
Speaker 4: Wait, what what alliance? So I don't really know, Like I'm like, I don't know. I'm kind of like I don't really know.

01:08:10
Speaker 3: On that one. You know, I don't know.

01:08:11
Speaker 2: What do you think?

01:08:13
Speaker 1: Well, the thing is this, I know for a fact that alliances are formed. I've sent them a podcast for three years that right before a season starts nine point five times out of tears. Okay, let's just say nine child nine talks out before a new season starts some of the girls. I'm not saying Housewives of Atlanta specifically. I'm saying the majority of reality shows that I watch, there is an alliance conversation. There's group meetings, now, brain drops some tea for y'all, right before a season starts filming, not airing. If you ever see a reality star post a picture with ass members right before they started feeling they had a meeting of an alliance, that's it is what happened. I talked about it on Beverly Hills Housewives. I've talked about it and on other shows. It is true, it does happen. I'll be honest with you. I do know that when it comes to Poor and Shami or Claudia is right, they were in a great space prior prior to what happened on the show. I don't it would be weird. This is my opinion. I don't see Porsiche having an alliance with newbies, because if that was the case, why did Kelly come for her in the first all cast scene you see? So I don't I just I didn't.

01:09:50
Speaker 5: Go ahead because she knew it would have been safe and now only going so far because they have the alliance, so I can go there, but we're not gonna like go there behind it. And the reason that Porscha would be included is because of Shemiah.

01:10:06
Speaker 2: Shamiah is the link.

01:10:07
Speaker 5: Shamia is new so she's cool with Britton Kelly and figuring that out and they're sticking together in that way. But I'm on this show that my best friend has been on for years and is the anchor of this season. I can't just flat out not include her on whatever we got going on behind the scenes.

01:10:24
Speaker 4: That's right, I think, thinking looking back the Porscha that we know from the years on the show, she did get like oh okay when Kelly made the comment, but she didn't react on ten like she could have to that comment. So maybe that was like a hey, we are so you know, I gotta comfy, Okay, Well what's your company?

01:10:44
Speaker 3: Okay?

01:10:44
Speaker 4: Ask me about Sion, Ask me about the lady's husband whatever, because she quickly was cool with Kelly after that, Like it wasn't like weeks and weeks and weeks like some of these other beafs we go on five, six, seven episodes, you're still mad about.

01:10:57
Speaker 3: This goofy ass comment from way back.

01:10:59
Speaker 4: Porscha did quickly recover from that, So that would that could be an option that maybe that did happen, you know, maybe maybe.

01:11:05
Speaker 1: Took it as she didn't want to give her a moment. That's I mean, I'm just saying I took it as girl, you're new, what's your name, I'm not give you a moment. I'm going to focus on breeding Drew, I took it like that. But but but but no, that's that's that's a good debate because it.

01:11:22
Speaker 3: Seemed like.

01:11:24
Speaker 4: She was like, oh, but like almost like okay, bitch, yeah, yeah, like like let's do this. Like it wasn't as angry as it could have been, right, Like, it wasn't angry as I could have it was like, but then she almost like respected her after for her.

01:11:41
Speaker 3: Gangster you know what I mean. I don't know, I remember when it happened, being like damn, she got over that quickly like either.

01:11:47
Speaker 4: She's grown and evolved that much, or now that you're saying this, maybe there was a pack where Okay, we can't make it too obvious, so I got to you know, I gotta come for you, like you know, Okay, well maybe they agreed on that. I don't know, but I do hate that there, like y'all said, and that you said, alliances do kind of kill the show, because that's what kind of does. Don't try to produce yourself. Who got producers for that?

01:12:10
Speaker 3: Yeah?

01:12:11
Speaker 1: No, I absolutely hate it. And it's obvious when you watch so many shows. So to wrap up the reunion, the reunion was concluding when Andy brought up the finale moment between Angela and Pedra whether or not the guy was paid by Fedra to say it, whether the guy was paid by Angela say it, Angela provided receipt. I will say this. If you are a real Housewife fan, listen up, wake up. And I know Dustin remembers this because he's like me. My favorite moment of the reunion also was Angela saying in at this there's only two high schools and three middle schools, and you are a Housewife fan. That's sand Season three reunion, and I thought that was the funniest shit, because I like anything that gives you a load nod to the golden years of the show. But I thought that was hilarious.

01:13:13
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Dain with real quick, right there with you, los.

01:13:16
Speaker 5: And that was actually the second time that that's happened this season, because remember when Porscha was checking Drew at Shamia's house, she used the whole Nini spill from the season five reunion when she was telling Phaser that she was low down on the dirty and had been conspiring with Nini's half sisters to film behind her back.

01:13:33
Speaker 2: Porscha almost read it.

01:13:35
Speaker 5: It was like when Milania Trump stole Michelle Obama's speech, and remember they had them, they had them side by side. It was like the same thing. She literally laid that whole playbook out. So this is a season of what we call it homage, right, That's what this is of omas.

01:13:52
Speaker 2: They're paying homage to the legendary.

01:13:58
Speaker 5: Energy pivots that these women have done with these incredible soliloquies, we'll call them.

01:14:04
Speaker 3: Who do you think lies the most of this cast? Do you think Phage is the biggest liar? Colors? Who do you think is the biggest liar.

01:14:12
Speaker 1: I plead the fifth actually make three, but I don't know.

01:14:20
Speaker 4: You know Carlos that he likes and he talks him on the phone and.

01:14:26
Speaker 3: Knows to Houston's with they can do no goddamn wrong.

01:14:29
Speaker 2: And then when I don't Drew lie to though I'm.

01:14:32
Speaker 3: A hater, I'm just I see through the bullshit. I have no lines.

01:14:36
Speaker 1: You are hater. First part, Cladia, I don't call for you. Secondly, Quadia, I don't. I don't sit to you. I don't sit for you at all.

01:14:44
Speaker 3: So please, I know you don't do that.

01:14:47
Speaker 1: You don't you feel? But no, Claudia, who do you believe in this story? Now? Listen? It was definitely a cliffhanger that will see what the conclusion was in and next week. But based on more information that was brought out because Angela did bring out a Manila envelope from Staples.

01:15:13
Speaker 5: And she can't even got to get.

01:15:20
Speaker 1: She got it from the fax machine in Simon's house job. So anyways, how di grass Alina would give.

01:15:26
Speaker 3: Her something ain't doing no legitimate business. Now I'm just saying.

01:15:32
Speaker 1: Anyways, Angela brought out a vanilla envelope child from Staples Honey to cost two ninety nine because she got it from two high schools and threw the discout. But there's a woman named Kimberly that is supposedly friends with Faige. This was my other part two does that? Yes, that's my oldest brother again, shout out to scene the reunion. So yes, there's oldest brother. It's friends with this woman named Kimberly, who's also friends with the guy who said that. And that's the Athene connection, and that's how they all. That's how Angela is proving that it was Sedra based on that new information, Claudia, did that offer you any further explanation as to what to believe?

01:16:28
Speaker 3: I hate to.

01:16:28
Speaker 4: Say this because I really like Angela, but it's not looking good. It ain't looking good, Like I gotta hear the rest because I'm like, at first, we were like, oh, damn, that dirty Phaser, because you know, she lies so much already, she lied about everything, you know what I mean, So so it's easy to believe that she would be wrong in this that you know, we could easily believe that it's a believable scenario that she would, you know, do this, and plus the way feature came on and immediately came for Angela and her marriage would make you think, what's going on here?

01:16:57
Speaker 2: Do you have a car?

01:16:57
Speaker 4: I think I personal feel like she has a crush on Charles and that's why she was just coming for Angela out the gate, like, oh, I don't know he was married and the But I hope Angela has better receipts than what we've seen already. If not, it's going to look really bad for her and I you know, for her to be our fan, our favorite every single, like, you know, really emerge out the star of this season.

01:17:18
Speaker 3: I would hate that for her to you know, to end on a low note, you know what I mean?

01:17:22
Speaker 4: Like I would like for her to finish strong and run they say in Track and Field, run through the line, and you know right now what we're seeing, But it could be you know, with production, with teasers, they make you think this way to you watch it and then it goes left. So I hope that she didn't contrive this story.

01:17:40
Speaker 3: But it's not right now. But I you know, yeah, I don't know.

01:17:45
Speaker 5: I'm a Claudia on this Love you Angela Oakley to Dad, love you on this show. But you're gonna have to let this go or come with some what Miss Juicy shout out to your great interview with Miss Juicy, But what did.

01:17:56
Speaker 2: Miss Juicy say? Can you come with something else? Please? Cause you someone's come with someting better than that you like?

01:18:03
Speaker 1: And Miss Minnie wait, what was it was it that was to no say?

01:18:08
Speaker 2: What did she say when she's talking to you? I don't remember, But.

01:18:15
Speaker 5: Angela oku because we love her and we want her to to not succumb to these these tactics that are beneath her.

01:18:24
Speaker 2: Right.

01:18:24
Speaker 5: I thought that the involvement of that guy, who obviously don't have no place on this show. I thought the involvement of him was ridiculous. The pieces that she put together to connect that story to Faedor were hanging on by a thread.

01:18:38
Speaker 2: They were threadbare at best.

01:18:40
Speaker 5: What I will say is like Claudia brought up because you were one hundred percent right, Claudia. Faedra did appear to have some sort of some sort of issue with Angela. She came out at Yate making negative comments about her husband. She uh had that clip and that that uh that figurative bullet in the clip with the whole your house is in foreclosure thing that she brought out of nowhere, saying that she knew that Angela's house was in foreclosure. And then when Angela did bring those papers out of that Staples folder, thank you lose. She said, in this lady her name is Kimberly whatever, and she said the last name, and then there was a beat. Everybody was quiet for like two beats, and Paedri was like, I don't know kim whatever.

01:19:27
Speaker 2: She called the lady Kim. She didn't say Kimberly, she said Kim. And so that coupled with the other stuff that it does.

01:19:34
Speaker 5: Seem like there could be maybe some sort of connection, but it wasn't strong enough to appear as a receipt or be used as a receipt because it didn't prove shit. Just because somebody went to score with her brother or whatever. That wasn't a strong enough tie to convince anybody that Faedro was behind what was going on.

01:19:52
Speaker 4: Brian Winter says, I'm sorry. B Johnson says, just like Roger, Bob, she wanted Charles.

01:20:00
Speaker 3: Remember she came.

01:20:00
Speaker 4: Remember Padri was coming for Demitria so hard, and yeah, what what is this about? And it was like she was being so mean to Demetria for no reason, kind of like so mean to Angela when she you know, she like she said, I only were ten days. I just got here, so you're gonna show up and I didn't know he was married, like coming in firing shots, saying that she looked old, Padria, you look the oldest of everybody on the show, like the oldest, like really, like especially with that outfa you had on.

01:20:29
Speaker 3: It was giving dug up mummy, you know what I mean.

01:20:32
Speaker 4: And it was not popping and not the queen like the the.

01:20:36
Speaker 3: Gesture, I don't know, it was not cute. So I don't like that. Phedra.

01:20:40
Speaker 4: Sorry, y'all, she's a liar and I just don't respect it. But you was coming for Angela. But I will say, I I'm kind of you might we might have to clear your name next week. If Angela doesn't have more receipts than that in that Staples Manila envelope, we're gonna have to eat Crome next week and say.

01:21:00
Speaker 2: Out not really though, Claudia, you know what I'm saying.

01:21:03
Speaker 5: Even if she did fuck this up, She's still our favorite this season, right, She still was the most still was the most likable, and I don't want the fans of the show to feel like this is an issue that can shift. Why now we can't like her no more? You know what I'm saying, You know how they do. And I don't think that this is a big enough thing that you know, can't at least for me. I speak for my as myself. Even if she does only have that ship that she showed this week or whatever, I still like Angela, you know what I'm saying.

01:21:33
Speaker 3: So and that's her only mistake this whole season.

01:21:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like, I don't know, it's just all.

01:21:39
Speaker 3: They laughing at my dug up mummy comment.

01:21:41
Speaker 4: I don't know.

01:21:43
Speaker 3: We never God damn, we just like what the helly damn?

01:21:49
Speaker 1: What is it?

01:21:51
Speaker 3: And I can't dress and I'm saying this, I do bad to I do, I do bad. I can't dress. And that was the bullshit that you know what, can.

01:22:03
Speaker 5: You know what, Claudia, you can make the hell out of a frozen spiked lemonade. I kicked it at Claudia's beautiful, big ass house full of all this nice ass ship, and we was in there kicking.

01:22:14
Speaker 2: It in this big white living room.

01:22:16
Speaker 5: It was beautiful, and Claudia made us these spiked frozen lemonades.

01:22:20
Speaker 2: That were so mother fucking good, lost and rain dry.

01:22:25
Speaker 5: They were so good I wanted to keep drinking them, but I had a show, so I couldn't get too tore up.

01:22:31
Speaker 4: When you invite us to your beautiful mansion in Miami and we get.

01:22:38
Speaker 3: Wherever else you have homes and mansions New York.

01:22:40
Speaker 1: Anyways, what I didn't want to say.

01:22:43
Speaker 4: Hey, y'all, I don't hate for sure, Asia, I just think they're full of ship.

01:22:47
Speaker 1: I kind of really disliked you.

01:22:53
Speaker 5: Know that, y'all tonight both of your asses have been on on one tonight, but in.

01:23:06
Speaker 1: Dustin we missed each other. This is what happens when you we don't see each other for a week, so apparently it can't happen again. I don't know what happened tonight, but all I say is this hasn't been the fun the funniest line that we had a long time, and every life has been fundy. So that says a lot. But I will by saying this, I will by saying this, I agree with us. I grew with Claudia that the receipt the problem is this and I said this from the beginning. When you when you add somebody that the audience doesn't know, to drop a bomb, no matter what both parties have in terms of receipts to prove their point. The sad part is it doesn't matter because it's so compulated, compulated, and is that a word does has compuluted, convoluted.

01:23:57
Speaker 2: But this year, man not the case.

01:24:01
Speaker 4: You know what I think you go to the school of journalism with Portia's it makes y'all cute.

01:24:10
Speaker 1: However, so every black in a while, I have a right part, but at least no the best part of the day. I clock it the moment it comes up my mouth.

01:24:19
Speaker 3: I don't.

01:24:20
Speaker 1: I don't stand on it like no, I'm just joking, like allegiance to the Alliance. Hey Angela, I love you. No, baby, Angela, you know I love you. Were having fun tonight. But I will say this, at the end of the day. It doesn't negate the perfect score that Angela had this season. She she she is still the MVP of the season. It's unfortunate that obviously this person came through to drop bombs that sort of allowed a division to occur, because prior to that, I think unanimously. I said that one right, Angela was.

01:24:59
Speaker 3: A black.

01:25:02
Speaker 2: Another throwback to a class.

01:25:04
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