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On today's Dan Patrick Show, DP and the Danettes break down the first round of NCAA Tournament action. TNT Sports studio analyst Adam Lefkoe explains the beauty of the Tournament and gives a look into the fun chaos of working closely with Shaq. CBS College Basketball Insider Jon Rothstein doesn't see Syracuse as a tremendously desirable job and discusses the "madness" from the first round of action.
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2026-03-20
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00:00:00 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio. Made it to a Friday. Who that was fun day yesterday and last night. Hope your brackets are nice, tidy secure. Adam Lefko ncaa host on TNT, will join us. Coming up in a little bit here some surprises BCU over North Carolina and overtime Duke survives Siena and High Point drops Wisconsin. 00:00:30 Speaker 2: H What kind of drama do we have in store today? It isn't meat Friday. We have corn beef. We have pastrami on rye. We have beefed corn, which is a Dan Patrick Show original. Our brisket and ground beef courtesy of Heartland Steak Company. 00:00:49 Speaker 3: That's it better than we do? 00:00:51 Speaker 2: Oh, Todd's excited for this? 00:00:55 Speaker 4: Sounds really good. 00:00:56 Speaker 3: A little pastrami on rye, throw a little mustard on. 00:01:00 Speaker 4: That's a good time right there. 00:01:01 Speaker 2: Stat of the Day brought to you by Panadi America, the official trading cards of The Dan Patrick Show. Fritzi is here, seat and here, Paul's here, and Marvin is back after yesterday's absence, and the audience would like to know if you have a statement that you would like to deliver or read from after yesterday's absence. 00:01:22 Speaker 5: You know a DP. I want to personally apologize everyone. I've learned the error of my ways, and I will never ever put Anthony Davis on your top five all time college basketball list. I was suspended yesterday because you were so angry about Anthony Davis being my starting center and my all time starting five. 00:01:42 Speaker 4: Forgive me. 00:01:44 Speaker 2: I think it might have been for another reason, but that is another reason that was egregious on your part. You also let an F bomb from Matt Leinert be delivered to the world. 00:01:54 Speaker 4: Oh, I forgot about this, Yes, okay. 00:01:56 Speaker 2: And kids could have been in the car, and it's all about the kids. But we're glad to have you back, Yes, Paul. 00:02:02 Speaker 6: Some of the media thought that this was a planned day off by Marvin. Your quotes mixed reports, Dan. 00:02:09 Speaker 2: Well, I just wanted to let you have your say to the audience, special social media, especially social media. They were very curious as for your absence, the timing of your absence after what happened on the show. 00:02:22 Speaker 7: The previous day. 00:02:23 Speaker 4: Happy coincidence? 00:02:24 Speaker 3: All right? 00:02:25 Speaker 2: First Hour brought to you by neutrofol If your hair isn't playing like it did in your twenties. That hat doesn't work. You need a different strategy. Start at neutrofol neutrofol dot com. Enter the promo code Dan Patrick, Play at the day, stat of the Day poll question, your phone calls coming up. We say good morning those watching on Peacock, thank you for downloading the app and our radio affiliates over four hundred cities that carry this award nominated program. Also Texas dropped byu TCU starting out the tournament beating Ohio State and Saint Lewis Rolls, Georgia eight seven seven three DP show operator Tyler sitting by. He'll take your phone calls. You know, you start to watch the tournament and you start to and I mentioned this yesterday, there are going to be a couple of players where you go, Wow, that guy. 00:03:18 Speaker 3: And it happens every year. 00:03:20 Speaker 2: And if your high Point or VCU, all you want is can we make it through the weekend? Can we get that exposure for our team? You want one week where you get all that recognition, and if high Point were to win another game or VCU to win another game, then you get the following week where you're going to have your coach being interviewed on Sports Center. You're going to get all of this notoriety. People are just finding out about high Point, and high Point is an interesting school. They actually have a steakhouse on campus. I think they have free ice cream on campus too. 00:03:59 Speaker 6: Yes, Paulie, high Point has been a bougie hot school for a while in the culture. You know, they have an ice cream stand, they have a steakhouse, and it all got exposed yesterday. For those who just learned about high. 00:04:10 Speaker 2: Point, here is the call as high Point pulls off the surprise against Wisconsin. 00:04:18 Speaker 8: Nine seconds, boy walks it inside six seconds. 00:04:27 Speaker 3: Yeah, boy, they launched that point. 00:04:34 Speaker 7: The two first nine. 00:04:45 Speaker 5: Will see. 00:04:50 Speaker 3: Trailing all right. 00:04:52 Speaker 2: That's the high Point University Student Radio having some fun. Somewhere in there, there's a description of what happened at the end of the game. This is how it sounded on Westwood One. 00:05:05 Speaker 9: Just stop at cccerverse, layup real good, pleave out at side park shot ithead us on the run the. 00:05:12 Speaker 1: Ten seconds to go, rode he with the enbold the. 00:05:15 Speaker 6: Boy in a time, I'll take it by high Point before. 00:05:18 Speaker 2: The bound So Westwood one Radio. Chase Johnston one of my favorite players. 00:05:24 Speaker 3: His first two. 00:05:25 Speaker 2: Point bucket of the year. All he does is shoot threes. But in that moment, the game winning basket a two pointer. Uh, Robbie Avila was Saint Louis cream abdul Jabbar. So you get these these players and we always look back. We're still looking back at Ali Farukmnesh Fennis Denbo who was there was another player? Trying to think maybe he played at Wyoming as well or Montane. 00:05:55 Speaker 8: Do you think it? 00:05:56 Speaker 6: Herald the show Arsenal Yeah, Weaver State. 00:05:58 Speaker 3: Oh, Weaver State, Yeah, good call, good poll. Yes, Marvin RJ. 00:06:03 Speaker 4: Hunter. 00:06:03 Speaker 3: Oh, you were to stay with his dad? 00:06:06 Speaker 2: Well, his dad was more famous than him, correct, But he was the guy that was hitting the shots. Yes, yes, yeah, Georgia Southern is that right? 00:06:12 Speaker 4: Yes? 00:06:13 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, we'll get phone calls coming up eight seven to seven to three DP show email address Dpat Danpatrick dot com, Twitter handling DP show. Flynn Kleiman is the high Point head coach, and he was pretty vocal after the win against Wisconsin. 00:06:30 Speaker 10: That's pretty obvious to me that something needs to be done about this non conference scheduling. High Point in Miami, Ohio or two to oh in quad one games, we couldn't get games. They couldn't get games. Ackeran couldn't get games, UNCW couldn't get games. Belmont couldn't get games. We won twenty two of our last twenty three games, and we didn't move up one spot in the metrics, not one. We won twenty two of our twenty three. We've won twenty five games by double digits. That team, right there is a fantastic team. That'd be five top ten teams. If we can get games like this on neutral courts and some home games, I think we know who's really the best teams. I'm proud of these dudes. And we're not just here to win one game. We're here to get to Sweet sixteen. 00:07:09 Speaker 2: All right, I understand it, And yes, you want to get games. You're not going to get neutral site and you're not going to get home games because put yourself in Wisconsin situation. Would you go to High Point to play a game? And the answer is no. You play a rigorous schedule in the Big Ten. Now do I like that Belmont and high Point in some of these other schools Miami, Ohio don't get to test themselves. 00:07:32 Speaker 3: No, I don't like that. But I'm just looking at the business side. 00:07:35 Speaker 7: Of all of this. 00:07:36 Speaker 2: If you play a demanding schedule, do you want to go on the road against a very dangerous team? 00:07:42 Speaker 11: Now? 00:07:42 Speaker 2: Do you want to test yourself? Sure, but everybody is scrambling, everybody's trying to improve their rating, their ranking, all of that, and a neutral site isn't going to happen. The only way this happens is if high Point would get invited to the Maui Invitational something like that. But it's not gonna happen now. It's more of the have and the have nods. Your moment is right now when you get in the tournament and nobody conduct you. They can't Hot Wisconsin can't say we don't want to play high Point. I mean, high Point is a very good team, an exciting team. They score points, they put pressure on you. But got to be honest though, if I'm Wisconsin, I'm not gonna play a home game at high Point. I'm not going to play a neutral site game against them either. 00:08:30 Speaker 6: Yeah, pulling, But we've talked about this for years with college football, that there's not a scheduling ZAR to build storylines. Can you imagine if college basketball had a scheduling ZAR and next year high Point opens at Wisconsin or vice versa. 00:08:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you don't have the same players on the team. So yes, you can say, hey, it's a rematch when it's really not unless you have your core players. They have their core players, then maybe, but it doesn't work that way. You know, Iowa and LSU played in women's championship game and then I said you got to open up the next year with Iowa and LSU. Well, the core of those teams was still going to be there next year because of women's basketball. They're not going pro with men's. It's just interchangeable shifting. I mean, you could have somebody at high Point on Wisconsin next year because they saw that player play and go, why don't we just take him? Speaking of money, aj Debanza got somewhere between five and seven. 00:09:32 Speaker 3: Million dollars from BYU. Now he's a wonderful player. 00:09:36 Speaker 2: He is Sean Miller, Texas head coach, being interviewed, Hey, what can you do with Aj Debanza? Basically nothing, because you're watching somebody who's just passing through college basketball, and he was a wonderful player this entire season. I don't know if you say, boy, we got our money's worth there. He had thirty five and ten and the first freshman with thirty or more points in the NCAA tournament debut since Steph Curry back in two thousand and seven. Stat of the Day rot you bon Panini America. So, according to Front Office Sports DEBANSA was paid between five and seven million dollars to go to BYU. They won twenty three games, they had a five hundred record in conference, a number six seed, and a first round exit. Is that worth five to seven million dollars? I guess it's in the eye of the be holder. Yes, Marvin. 00:10:40 Speaker 5: What the thing was, he did what was expected of him, you know, the team's success. He was like, hey, it's not my fault, we didn't have enough good players. 00:10:48 Speaker 2: Watching Sienna against Duke yesterday afternoon and Jerry McNamara, Siena head coach, at least for the time being, he played his starters, you know, virtually the higher game, and I like what he was trying to do. 00:11:03 Speaker 3: He was rolling the dice. 00:11:04 Speaker 2: He was saying, we can maybe steal this, that my starting five is pretty good and if we, you know, get hot, you know, we can put some pressure on them, which is exactly what they did. 00:11:16 Speaker 3: They were up thirteen at one point, but then you saw the shots. 00:11:20 Speaker 2: I'm always looking for shots, and when guys play a lot of minutes, I want to see what your misses look like. And they were hitting the front iron. They were tired, and I think they subbed with like ten seconds to go. But Siena nearly pulled off one of the greatest upsets in NCAA history, knocking off number one, top seeded Duke. It's fun, but it's a neutral sight different times of the day and night, and you get these kids where you're supposed to win these games, or you're not supposed to win these games, and you see the confidence grow or you see the doubts start to creep in for those who are supposed to win. Happens every year. That's the beauty of March madness. Yes, Marvin, and especially in these David Versus Goliath matchups. It's all Division one basketball players. So some of these guys were probably underrecruited and now they want to show the big schools we're just as good as you guys. We just were recruited as heavy as you guys at Duke or North Carolina or wherever else. 00:12:19 Speaker 3: Yep, it was fun. It was a lot of fun. 00:12:23 Speaker 2: I mentioned that the eleven six was the new twelve to five, but high point as a twelve taking down Wisconsin VCU and eleven with their win against North Carolina Texas and eleven against number six BYU. So both elevens ended up winning and one of the twelves ended up winning as well. But this is what happens in the beginning of the tournament every single year, and it would be the same this year. As far as today and tonight, there'll be one or two surprises. There'll be one or two players where you go, man, I've fallen in love with his game. Well, that's a great story. That's a fun team. What's poll question today, Seaton? We got a few options here. Todd has actually submitted what I would consider. 00:13:10 Speaker 12: To be in near perfect Todd Fritz, Oh my god, it's the exact right amount of Todd. 00:13:18 Speaker 3: Okay, what was the high point of yesterday? What was the high point of yesterday? 00:13:26 Speaker 12: Is a high point beating Wisconsin, Sienna, putting a scare into Duke Texas, taking down AJ Debanta, and BYU VCU coming back down nineteen to beat North Carolina. What was your high point of yesterday. 00:13:42 Speaker 2: I would say VCU against North Carolina because you're down nineteen and you end up coming back. I mean, that's one of those I'd like to say it's more about VCU, but man, it might be an indictment on Hubert Davis. Free throws missed. Now you don't have your best place. You got a lottery pick who wasn't playing, but you should you should still, well, you're up nineteen, you should still win that game. But that is not a good look for Hubert Davis. Once again, big shout out to Heartland Steak Co. They have provided all the meat here for our Meat Fridays, So thank you guys doing it every Meat Friday for us. Even some questionable meat Fridays, they still provide. They live up to their end of the bargain. They're sort of the aj Debanza when it comes to providing the meeting. He'll be complimented, But Dylan, you know, it's up to him to raise his game as the resident chef. After what happened last week in the most controversial Meat Friday. I believe in our show's history, although I thought it was very tasty the Indian food. But we're back now, I told him you got to make a comeback here and and he did so. Heartland Steakco. Thank you for all the great deliveries gift packages that you give us. All right, we'll talk to Adam Lefkoe. He's a big time a host for March Madness. Always great to talk to him. He's also a co host of Shack's podcast as well. How about we, Dear Patrick, shut the hell up? We take in speaking of the Lakers, Luca drops and oh by the way, sixty Lebron and oh by the way, triple double. They're chanting MVP for Luca in Miami last night. I believe is that right, Marvin? 00:15:39 Speaker 4: They're not the most rabid fan base in Miami. 00:15:43 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, just saying that was a little bit surprising. 00:15:46 Speaker 2: But you know what, I checked the odds, second best odds to win the MVP right now, it's Luca behind SGA. How about we take a break here back after this and the Dan Patrick Show. 00:16:00 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 00:16:10 Speaker 13: Hey, this is Jason McIntyre. Join me every weekday morning on my podcast, Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. This isn't your typical sports pod pushing the same tired narratives down your throat every day. Straight Fire gives you honest opinions on all the biggest sports headlines, accurate stats to help you win big at the sportsbook, and all the best guests. Do yourself a favor and listen to Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. 00:16:42 Speaker 2: We'll get some phone calls on this Friday seven to seven three DP show operator Tyler sitting by, who take your phone calls? First day of our Bracket Challenge, the Celebrity Bracket Challenge, and as you might expect, Philip Rivers is leading the first day of our Bracket Challenge. Last place is Rebecca Lowe from the Premier League on NBC. Second to last is Connor Hellibuck, the gold medal winning goalie for Team USA. He had a good month though, just saying Fritzie is in there, and Jason Garrett, Melissa Stark, Darius Rucker, they're all tied for second place. But it's early. 00:17:23 Speaker 3: It's one day. 00:17:25 Speaker 2: Speaking of the Tournament. He's Adam Lefko, TNT sports studio host, co host of The Big Podcast with Shaquille Lou and Neil Whoa. Look, who's got a shirt and tie on today? That is not for this show? 00:17:40 Speaker 7: Are you not? 00:17:41 Speaker 3: Are you working? 00:17:42 Speaker 7: I'm I'm going to take this right off afterwards, put on a black T shirt and go to work. How do you know that? You don't know that. 00:17:48 Speaker 3: I don't know that. But let me give you the full introduction. 00:17:51 Speaker 2: Adam Lefko hosting studio coverage from TNT in Atlanta. He's got Bruce Pearl, Jamal Mashburn, Jalen Rose, Seth Davis back. 00:17:59 Speaker 3: In studio today at noon. I knew it. I knew it. 00:18:03 Speaker 2: You're already dressed, ready to go. You got two and a half hours ready. Can we start with the poll question for left go Seaton? Would you give him the first hour pole question? 00:18:16 Speaker 7: Sure? 00:18:16 Speaker 3: This is from Todd Fritz. 00:18:18 Speaker 12: What was your high point of yesterday? High point beating Wisconsin, Sienna, putting a scare into Duke Texas, taking down ag ADVNSA and BYU or VCU, coming back down nineteen to beat North Carolina. 00:18:31 Speaker 7: Being on television, A great job Seaton, You're the man. I would say the VCU comeback is that great tournament experience where one team is like white knuckling and trying to hold it on and the other team has like a dude off the bench dropping thirty four, which is like a beautiful combination. From like a broadcast ratings perspective, Duke getting scared but not losing is like a perfect scenario because we want our top seeds to get the living the Jesus scared out of them. But we'd also like to see Duke Kansas in the sweet sixteen. So I thought that was perfect. 00:19:06 Speaker 2: But you normally have if you look at every tournament where you have your champion, they get a scare at one point. It's rare when you just blow through people and you act like you're the running rebels of UNLV. Yeah you're going to win, but sometimes you win and it might be by a couple of points. So that might have been the scare there. But if Siana wins, I think statistically might be the greatest upset in NCAA history that I mean, I don't know. 00:19:35 Speaker 7: UMBC was pretty special FDU because of who Zach Edy was, like the seven foot five like larger than life and fdu was the smallest team in the tournament. That one felt crazy. And Duke's injuries made Yesterday more explainable in terms of why they were there. But like two different scares. Howard was right there with Michigan. Yesterday hit ten three in the first half, but the second half you go, oh, okay, difference, Duke, You're going this could be an issue against TCU. That one felt like we might be seeing actual issues here. 00:20:11 Speaker 2: The reaction though in the studio as you're watching games. You're not on TV. But who gives you the best reactions when you're watching these games at TNT so. 00:20:21 Speaker 7: Mash is like super Chalky. So Mash is like, I'm going to Sienna's up five and he's like, man, it don't matter. Cenna's up eleven. 00:20:29 Speaker 4: Nah, don't matter. 00:20:30 Speaker 7: And I go, Mash, not all the top seeds are gonna win, Like there's gonna be upset and I'm telling them, hey, at twelve beat to five every year. And then and then he's real because Mash is such like a man. He knows the deband's a family like he really so to see him go. They could lose this game, like the realization come. That was really beautiful. 00:20:51 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jamal Mashburn and Bruce Pearl's in there. I'm sure Bruce is at o at all. 00:20:57 Speaker 7: He's not like, why do you paint him in this picture? I feel like this is a character assassination. I'm going to like stand up for him, I know. 00:21:05 Speaker 3: And you were like tell the truth, ruth like it was. 00:21:10 Speaker 2: But I was Tom Cruise and it was a few good men, and he was Nicholson and I just wanted to know if he was on Auburn's payroll. 00:21:18 Speaker 7: Yeah, that was all the thing that I like about coach is that like we'll get done a segment and like we got off there and he goes, oh, that was fun, Like he wishes he could do a segment right afterwards. So I love that energy. 00:21:31 Speaker 2: Did by you get their money's worth out of aj Debansa? 00:21:36 Speaker 7: They got another top recruit coming in next year. We talked about BYU basketball all season long. I know my guy Chuck has said that you can't do it all with one guy, but I think it's really interesting how sports are changing With ni lu Texas Tech and football were expecting them to be a powerhouse. I would imagine all that Texas money s MU, all those teams are going to come alive. I'm sure Texas A and M is going to get some money too, but that I forget what they call it. There's like a Silicon Valley building right now in Utah of all these tech companies in Utah, and my guy Ryan Smith with the Jazz, the way he's investing right now. I have this is the beginning for BYU because I think it's a complete game changer. I think it is. And as Debansa, Debansa has a phenomenal NBA career, We're always going to mention BYU. Just like when we see Kevin Durant, we talk about Texas. 00:22:34 Speaker 2: If you look at NIL and I had somebody works with the NC DOUBLEA, you know, we're talking about the SEC and I said, you know, is the SEC a thing of the past of you know when you looked certainly at football and he said, you got to have oil money and you have to or have tech money because everybody's got the chance to be able to sign these players and do it legally. And that's maybe, you know, adds credence to what you're saying that if you have tech money and all you need is really one philanthropic donor who's willing to say, hey, I'm okay with this. Here what you can do with five to seven million dollars, And I think we got you aj bonsa exactly. 00:23:14 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:23:15 Speaker 7: And then you factor in the amount of attention that Mark Cuban got for the Indiana football run. And he is like one of those established tech guys. I know a lot of tech founders and money is imaginary to them because they're going, well, my company is valued at at four hundred million dollars, and I go, you live in a one bedroom apartment in the Lower East Side, and it's like it's not even real. So you need that money that doesn't even feel tangible and it won't impact it and oil and tech. 00:23:47 Speaker 2: Right now is that we're talking Adam Lefco, TNT sports studio host. 00:23:51 Speaker 3: And if you're listening on. 00:23:52 Speaker 2: Radio, visualize Leftco with a nice crisp shirt and tie. 00:23:58 Speaker 7: When's the last time you were a suit to be on television? Not insulting your orange button up right now, But I'm just curious. 00:24:08 Speaker 2: It's quarter Roy by the way, Oh my god, it's textured. Yes, it's quarteru Roy. You know I've fallen in love with quarter. 00:24:17 Speaker 7: Right, it's a nice material. 00:24:19 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm bringing have you ever. 00:24:21 Speaker 7: Gone qurteru roy top and corduroy bottom. I would do it, water would just flow right. 00:24:29 Speaker 3: It does look like picture day for you. 00:24:32 Speaker 7: Yeah, this is very weird. I thought about doing this with no pants and going back to like when we would do zoom calls together. But I'm getting picked up in about twelve minutes. 00:24:44 Speaker 3: So wasn't there that CNN analyst who. 00:24:50 Speaker 7: I had PTSD yesterday thinking about zoom? Like it be like when when the pandemic was happening it was cool, and then afterwards people like, hey, you want to hop on a zoom? I'm like, nah, I don't, Like I don't want to do any of this. Like I was looking around this hotel and I go where am I supposed to sit? Like do you want to see my bed that's a mess right now? Or like the table with food on it. It's a weird situation. 00:25:12 Speaker 2: So you co host the Big Podcast with Schequille Knew, Shut the hell up? When are you surprised? When's the last time he surprised you? By the way, I think the last time I wore suit and tie probably was Football Night in America maybe, or maybe the Olympics or maybe handing out the Super Bowl Trophy. 00:25:35 Speaker 3: I don't it's been a while. It's been a while. I have all of these ties. I probably have seventy five neckties. 00:25:45 Speaker 7: Do you think there could be a campaign where a Dan Patrick tie makes it into like a Hall of Fame somewhere, like a Broadcasting Hall of Fame or something like that, or like a NBA like I did. 00:25:58 Speaker 2: I did donate a blaze somebody at a sports bar and they said, hey, would you give me a blazer? 00:26:04 Speaker 3: And I gave them, you know, one of my suits, and they framed it. 00:26:10 Speaker 7: I'm like, as funny as he didn't put in the bar. 00:26:15 Speaker 3: His bedroom. Yes, when's the last time you were surprised by Shaq? 00:26:25 Speaker 7: So, like we play a game on there that started because he would go around the green room and like he'd pick up like a ritz cracker and be like, this is white people and then he'd say the S word, and so I was like, wait, do you believe everything in the world is white people stuff or black people stuff? And so now we play that game all the time, and his like he was like I was like wings and he was like, drums are black people stuff, flats are white people's stuff. And he says it so definitively, and we I've done this with Barry Sanders and Bo Jackson and I'm brady and like what I did to them, I said water, thinking it's water, like we're made of water, the planet is majority water, and they both were like white people's stuff. So like, I'm I'm just amazed. 00:27:15 Speaker 3: At water is white people's stuff. 00:27:17 Speaker 7: Yeah, because I think they in their heads thought about who drinks water in the locker room and who drinks gatorade, and they were like, the white guys drink water, That's what they said. And so I'm I'm always amazed at like Shaq's Shack has like definitive theories on things and that because I'm like anything's open to interpretation, Shack is definitive. 00:27:40 Speaker 3: I think you need to make it bigger, that it's not just a podcast that's a TV show. 00:27:45 Speaker 7: I one hundred percent agree. We've been it's my favorite. It started because we were doing NBA on TNT and Lebron was on the bench and he was eating You could see the package said red vines and he goes, Nah, black people call it twizzlers and I go no, I'm I'm reading the package and he goes, nah, white people at red vines. Black people eat twizzlers. And then then I was like everything. I was like holding up pens, you know, like what about this table? 00:28:12 Speaker 4: What is this table? 00:28:17 Speaker 7: You missed you? I missed you a lot. And when I got the call and they were like hey, man, like they'd like to go on, I was like, that's really early. I'm going to be in a tie. And I was like, I missus, musk and so I'm happy to see you. 00:28:29 Speaker 4: Man. 00:28:29 Speaker 7: This has been great. 00:28:30 Speaker 3: How's the family. 00:28:33 Speaker 7: I don't know, if you want to know. My son is really smart, he's two and a half now. My wife is great. And my son says my full government name because I'm on television. So sometimes I'll walk out and I'll go Adam Lefco and I'm like, you did not know my name? So life is good. 00:28:53 Speaker 3: Give me the surprise today or tonight. 00:28:55 Speaker 7: Okay. I think we're going to start with two upsets right off the bat. I think Santa Clara could take down Kentucky and I think Akron is going to be a Sweet sixteen team. So I think Texas Tech with j at Toppins is gonna get banged up. If I had to pick the bit, I think the Miami, Ohio story continues. I think they knock off Tennessee and I think America's team advances. And if I had to pick one bigger upset, one that would like real, like a real double digit seed. I I Northern Iowa over Saint John's would be unbelievable. Like I love Rick Battino, and I think they're focused, but like I covered the Big East all season long, and the drop off on teams and who they play. They've played two teams in this tournament since January, and if and they and if Saint John's isn't scoring, you reach that point where you're like, how are they going to manufacture points? Right now? Everyone's like Rick Patino. But I do have my surprise team. I guess the final four. I think Kansas makes a run. I think they I think they go to Indy. I really do. 00:30:02 Speaker 2: By the way, let me go back to the Big East, because you realize when Syracuse and Connecticut wanted to play big time football, they ruined. Why couldn't you have just been the best basketball conference in America? Because they were that. Yeah, if you could say to Syracuse you can give up football, Connecticut give up football, and we go back to the Big East, what do you think. 00:30:29 Speaker 7: I think I go back to the early twenty tens when all this was happening, like twenty ten at twenty fourteen. I think it was about fear because I remember I was in Louisville and so they're in that whole ACC thing too, and it was like, why does nobody want me? Because it was all this realignment and it was it was a fear that you were going to get left out and there was so much security in the ACC. But dude, I completely agree with you. Like I went to Syracuse when Jerry McNamara was playing, and though those msg Big East tournaments felt bigger than the NCAA tournaments, they had times they did and it was so special, I mean the Kember run and it was tough, but that's what's we started this conversation talking about NIL We're defined by contracts of money right now and not John Thompson, Like it was just a different feel. 00:31:23 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I was there with all of those coaches back in the eighties, and you know, we were right across CNN was right across the street from the garden, and you would have the Big East Tournament and I would just go there all day and all night, and it was. 00:31:37 Speaker 7: And dudes were dressed like this. That's the reason the tournament was great. You'd have dudes that were clearly leaving their office keeps sitting in the garden at like two forty five to watch Cincinnati West Virginia and you're like, Bob Huggins could go on a run like Big East Basketball in New York was special. 00:31:55 Speaker 2: Man Tell Shack, I said, alone, Okay, I go to de Patrick the hell up. Don't be nervous today. 00:32:02 Speaker 7: All right, you know what, Now I'm gonna be Thanks a lot, Dan, appreciate. 00:32:07 Speaker 3: You, plan mind games on you. 00:32:09 Speaker 2: Love you guys, Thank you, thank you. That's Adam Lefko. He's a popular studio host. He gets to wear a suit and tie and I don't. He's also the co host of The Big Podcast with Shaquil O'Neal. 00:32:21 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live Our. 00:32:34 Speaker 2: Two on this Meet Friday Gang's all here reunited Marvin after his day off yesterday. Fritzi's here, Seaton, Paulie, yours truly in the backroom, guys. It is a meat Friday. We have corn beef. We also have pastrami on rye and all of the meat provided by Heartland Steak Co. Also something called beefed corn, a Dan Patrick's Show original, but Dylan is whipping that up in the kitchen as we speak, Age seven to seven to three. DP Show email address Dpatdanpatrick dot com, Twitter handle at DP show Seaton. Would you update the poll results from hour one of this award nominated program. 00:33:14 Speaker 12: Absolutely, Dan, And we're just about to put up a poll question for hour two. Okay, your high point from yesterday, This is one from Todd. 00:33:22 Speaker 3: Right now. 00:33:24 Speaker 12: VCU comeback over in North Carolina has about fifty three percent of that vote, followed by high Point over Wisconsin. Last place is Texas beating BYU. 00:33:32 Speaker 3: And Sianna scaring Duke. 00:33:34 Speaker 12: Nobody's super into that one. 00:33:35 Speaker 2: That was a fun game to watch. I'm not surprised that Texas beat BYU. BYU as the best player in the country. I didn't think they were a great team, a good team, and Texas played a really good game. Sianna was fun, but they literally ran out of gas. You know you're playing all five Jerry McNamara rolling the dice and then you can see those shots were coming up a little bit short. VCU did not surprise me at all either, but fun, fun schedule, fun slate. Yesterday, a couple of surprises. I told you the eleven six is the new twelve to five. Both elevens win, and you had one of the twelves winning as well. 00:34:14 Speaker 3: Uh new pole question. Yes, I'm glad you as Dan. 00:34:17 Speaker 12: Okay, this one is a combination of two from Paul. I was rooting for Duke aka my bracket or Sienna aka the upset? Do you tend to root for your bracket because pretty much everybody picked Duke? Or are you that into the upset that my bracket be damned? I don't really care about that. I need to see this upset. 00:34:36 Speaker 2: I don't have Duke in my final four. I was rooting for Sienna. If I had Duke in the final four, I would have been rooting for Sienna. Did you have them advancing yesterday? 00:34:46 Speaker 7: Yes? 00:34:46 Speaker 2: Okay, But if you said Duke lost, Siena one. I would have been fine with that. 00:34:53 Speaker 3: I would have And. 00:34:56 Speaker 2: You know, you start to look at that we got five guys, but when you come when it you get to the tournament, you get most teams are playing seven guys. John Caliperry has said that, hey, I'm going to play seven. I mean, you do your damnedest to play seven. You get a little extra time, TV timeouts to rest a little bit, but you're you're about seven deep, maybe eight, and Jerry was five deep, and it eventually cost them. John Rothstein, CBS Sports College Basketball Insider, does a great job for CBS, the CBS Sports Network, and he's part of the coverage here. 00:35:33 Speaker 3: John. 00:35:33 Speaker 2: I heard John mad Dog Radio and recently and I said to Fritzi, I said, I want John on. I thought you did a wonderful job and painting the picture for the tournament before it started. 00:35:43 Speaker 3: And here we are. 00:35:44 Speaker 2: Today after the first day. The game of the day or night was what yesterday. 00:35:51 Speaker 9: I mean, I think you have to look Dan obviously at the high point win over Wisconsin, because so much, obviously of the start of the NCAA tournament is about Cinderella, is about creating those moments. Obviously, Vco in North Carolina was an epic, epic finish as well, But those to me really encapsulated what these first couple of days are about. It's about the dreamer. It's about the chance to do something again that could be cemented in school history. And look, we obviously hold VCU in very, very high regard when we're talking about the best non power conference programs in college basketball. VCU has not won an NCAA Tournament game since it beat Oregon State in twenty sixteen. It's been ten years, so that is a needle moving win for that program. 00:36:37 Speaker 2: If Siana beat Duke, would that have been the greatest upset in college basketball history. 00:36:43 Speaker 9: I still think that considering the fact that Purdue in twenty twenty three won the Big Ten regular season title and the Big Ten Tournament title and had the national player of the Year in Zach e Edy. And we have to remember, fairly, Diketson did not win Northeast Conference title. Merrimack did that season, but was ineligible to play in March Madness because of the transition. So fairly Dickenson wasn't good enough to win his conference tournament and then won a game in the first four and went on to pull in my opinion, unequivocally the biggest upset in the history of the NCAA tournament. 00:37:22 Speaker 2: Okay, but if you look at the North Carolina lost yesterday, and I know it's easy to look at, you know, a win, but North Carolina lost and you're up by nineteen. Now, I know you don't have your best player in a lottery pick. But the fallout from that, is there any chance Hubert Davis is on the hot seat today at North Carolina. 00:37:46 Speaker 9: Look, there's no doubt that the expectations in line is playing. But we have to tell the whole story right here. Hubert Davis, when he had his full roster intact, did a great job this season returning North Carolina, and it's a provident the prominence. And what I mean by that is this when North Carolina was healthy this year. We have to remember it beat Kansas, it beat Duke, it won to Kentucky, it woned Virginia with Caleb Wilson. North Carolina is a four seed and maybe a three depending on where it finishes in the ACC Tournament. I'm not somebody at this point in the season that's gonna fog the NBA draft, but I did hear Charles Barkley saying the other night on the broadcast he thinks Caleb Wilson could maybe be the number one pick in the NBA draft, or at least in that conversation, Dan, I'm not saying this is two thousand when Cincinnati lost Kenyon Martin to a broken leg in the Conference USA Tournament. But we have to tell the whole story right here. Hubert Davis had turned North Carolina when he had Caleb Wilson. This program also was in a situation where it was really really playing early in the year without Seth Trimble, who obviously was a veteran guard. So it was an injury plague season. When all hands were on deck, North Carolina obviously returned to one of being one of the best teams in the country. Now, with that said, it's a very disappointing loss, considering you of a nineteen point lead. 00:39:12 Speaker 7: I think both things are separate. 00:39:14 Speaker 3: What's next for Jerry McNamara at Siena. 00:39:21 Speaker 9: I'll tell you you can't make a better audition to be a Power Conference head coach than what Jerry McNamara did against Duke yesterday. Now, I will say this, I have learned and obviously covering all these stories, there is a faction of people at Syracuse that want to move away from the Jim Deheim regime. That is a real, real sentiment. 00:39:42 Speaker 3: But Dan, for the way I'm. 00:39:43 Speaker 9: Looking at this objectively, is if there was a can't miss candidate, if there was Dan Hurley at Rhode Island, if there was Shakas Smart at BCU, I would have no problem with that. But right now, what the person to replace Jerry mcnamarica. It's not him. Isn't a can't miss candidate, and he has already proved in just two years that he's capable of leading a program, and he's also in a situation where he can build a program and compete in the NCAA tournament. And look, this is just the fact the life. Dan, and I think this is another longer form discussion, but the Syracuse job right now is not the Syracuse. 00:40:17 Speaker 3: Job that you and I grew up with in the Big East. 00:40:19 Speaker 9: Let's look right now things since Syracuse joined the ACC in twenty thirteen. Since Syracuse joined the ACC in twenty thirteen, it's winning percentage in ACC regular season games is fifty one percent. Syracuse's winning percentage in Big East regular season games in its last thirteen years in that conference was sixty nine percent. And Dan, let's go even further. Syracuse was able to make multiple deep runs in the NCAA Tournament as a member. 00:40:53 Speaker 4: Of the ACC. 00:40:54 Speaker 3: Credit to them. 00:40:55 Speaker 9: In twenty sixteen when Syracuse went to the Final four, it was a ten seed, eighteen when Syracuse went to the Sweet sixteen, it was also a double digit seed, and was an eleven seed in twenty twenty one when it went to the Sweet sixteen. A big part of that is, obviously Jim Beheim has always been a great tournament coach. With the zone, Syracuse doesn't change anything on a two day turnaround. When you have a two to three zone. Obviously on defense, it's a difficult threat for the opposing team. But really, their tournament runs as double digit seeds has massed in some ways over the last decade that this program has not performed anywhere close to what it was performing at at the level that it was in the old Big East. 00:41:35 Speaker 3: Yeah, those are great points. Your upset special today is. 00:41:40 Speaker 9: You know I'm doing games today, Dan, So I'm gonna stay away from that one right now, because we got these four games in Saint Louis. But I am excited, obviously, look like I think now, and I'm obviously somebody you know who you know eats the stuff for breakfast, lunch, and dinner three hundred and sixty five days a year. But you know, narratives are so funny to me. Stuff was being put out in the atmosphere that like Cinderella is dead because of nil and the haves and the have nots. The greatness about the NCAA Tournament is what we saw yesterday. And think about what we have seen in the first three days. Miami, Ohio was terrific against SMU Hi point Beta Wisconsin team again that waned Illinois wanted Purdue and won at Michigan. And then we have two teams from the Atlantic ten and VCU and Saint Louis obviously move on to the round of thirty two, and Siena, who didn't even win the MAC took Duke to the wire. 00:42:35 Speaker 7: So I think, you know, we. 00:42:36 Speaker 9: Also have to remind ourselves. Three years ago we had a final core game where it was San Diego State against Florida Atlantic, and two years ago NC State, a team that was losing to Louisville at halftime on Tuesday of the ACC Tournament. Was able to win five games in five days at the ACC Tournament and then win four more to advance obviously to the final four. So it is the greatest the vent in sports, and I think we're thankful that we have it in. 00:43:03 Speaker 7: Its current form. 00:43:04 Speaker 3: Great stuff. Thank you John, thank you Dan. 00:43:07 Speaker 9: Appreciate having men. 00:43:08 Speaker 3: That's John Rothstein, CBS Sports. 00:43:10 Speaker 2: He's a college basketball insider and he's working for CBS also CBS Sports Network as well. He also brought up something recently where he talked about there are really no great jobs that are open that it would be a foregone conclusion that Jerry McNamara, former Syracuse great, would leave Sienna and drive the whatever it is hour or so to Syracuse and take the job. But is Syracuse a really good job it used to be, and what John is saying it's not now? Is BC a good you know that? Like you look at these openings and there's a reason why they're open, do you wait another year? And I think that's the interesting part here is everybody, you know, we love change. You know, it's weird. Sometimes we don't like change at all. But then we're like, well, I fire that coach. You got to get rid of him. Well who you bringing in? That's always my point is, Okay, there's certain coaches where you go, he's not right for the job, But who are you bringing in? That's always the key. Hubert Davis. I'm sure North Carolina is like, you know, we got to do something here. That's another first round exit. Okay, But if you had a healthy team, are you losing that game? Are you going to be in the position that you were being seated where you were? Would you have been a better seed? And the answer is yes. 00:44:41 Speaker 4: All right. 00:44:42 Speaker 2: Some phone calls in here Monica and Raleigh, Monica, how are you feeling today? 00:44:49 Speaker 8: And well, I'm not doing so great because my heels lost last night. 00:44:53 Speaker 11: Unfortunately. 00:44:55 Speaker 8: Yep, but I'm with you on that. Hebert Davis should be a lie to continue to coach. He is a great coach. We weren't injured this year. 00:45:04 Speaker 11: He's fantastic. Kay Wilson was a deal breaker. 00:45:06 Speaker 8: We all saw it. They looked a little tired last night. I was about ready to fall asleep, and I was like, oh, we're gonna win. Nope, sure enough. From there it goes. Anyway, just wanted to tell. 00:45:17 Speaker 7: A little story. 00:45:18 Speaker 8: I love the basketball tournament. Is my favorite time of the year. Is my little sanctuary. My dad and I went for thirty years in a row, picking a first and second round where to go. Sometimes it was in Greensboro. My first year I was nine years old, went to Knoxville, so much fun. Then we went to Lexington all over the place and we would get a program and just look at the next team that we'd play next year. Who's going to play here next year? It was so much fun. And I just loved this basketball tournament and wanted to also say we watched the first four and that is going to probably continue to go. As far as money is concerned, I'm talking too much. 00:46:05 Speaker 3: Yeah all right, yeah wait, wait, did your husband just give you the wrap up sign? He did? 00:46:12 Speaker 9: He did? 00:46:15 Speaker 3: Why didn't you telling you to mind his business? 00:46:17 Speaker 4: All right? 00:46:18 Speaker 3: Right? 00:46:19 Speaker 8: Indeed, indeed, so besketball season is now over, so go raise on this season. But I also wanted to. 00:46:26 Speaker 2: Say, walking the first floor age, thank you Monica, thank you Monica. 00:46:30 Speaker 14: Yoh man, that dude didn't call in Monica. Yeah, you don't get to be a back seat driver on her phone. Call here, Yeah, shut up to call in on your own. It's talking to Monica. I think that's enough. 00:46:42 Speaker 3: David in Ohio, Hi, David, was. 00:46:47 Speaker 11: Hi David, Hey Dan, Happy meet Friday. Nobody. I had a quick period. So why Marvin took the day off yesterday? Before you said what you said earlier? I thought maybe he went and got and in argument. Procedure done yesterday. So thank you, thank you, David. 00:47:06 Speaker 3: Good call. That's a great call. Yeah, hey guys, happening to me Friday Nobody. Yeah, it was a teaching moment, Marvin, that's all. It's a teaching moment. 00:47:17 Speaker 7: This is what I do. 00:47:19 Speaker 3: And just you know, you have something like that, there's a mishap and then you teach one. 00:47:23 Speaker 4: Teaching No, but you're right. But who's your all time starting center in my lifetime? 00:47:28 Speaker 2: Not Anthony Davis. The best center that you ever saw in your lifetime in college basketball is Anthony Davis. 00:47:41 Speaker 5: Yes, he had an unbelievably dominant season at Kentucky that one year. 00:47:45 Speaker 3: He didn't score in the national title game. 00:47:48 Speaker 4: He's also got as many national titles as Patrick Ewing. 00:47:51 Speaker 2: Who would you rather have on your team, Marvin, Anthony Davis or Patrick Ewing? 00:47:59 Speaker 5: What Patrick Ewing okay, and that wasn't like a surefire, like, oh, no doubt. 00:48:07 Speaker 3: Why don't you go watch some old Georgetown videos with Patrick Ewing? He I can't like. 00:48:16 Speaker 2: This is what drives me crazy with the youth of America. I might suspend you for another day, he asked Paulie. 00:48:24 Speaker 6: I see what Marvin is saying by the center position, because have there been great centers in the past thirty years? I'm talking from ninety five on Marvin's era centers. Yeah, not power forward's masquerading. 00:48:37 Speaker 3: Yeah, but he was gonna take Anthony Davis over Patrick Ewing, That is he's that's Are you gonna. 00:48:42 Speaker 2: Take him over a keem Elijah one? You're gonna take him over Bill Walton? No, no, no, never, Bill Walton. Bill Wat's a surefire. That's not even a question. 00:48:52 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, just man, But you were. 00:48:55 Speaker 4: Talking about in college and I know Patrick Ullan. 00:48:58 Speaker 3: Was unbelievable Patrick Ewing, But Anthony. 00:49:01 Speaker 5: Davis for that one season, that one shining moment, all right, he dominated. Okay, let me that it, like I said, a scrub and he wasn't street closed back then. 00:49:16 Speaker 6: Yes, paul, I have Anthony Davis's bio for Basketball Reference and University Kentucky. 00:49:21 Speaker 12: Why don't we wait till after the break here, it'll shake this up. Let's let everybody calm down the breath. Yeah, okay, got to compose yourself. People think that there's something, you know, deeper going on with Marvin and me and and I. 00:49:34 Speaker 3: It's not. You know, I'm your boss. Something happened, We treated it. 00:49:39 Speaker 7: Now, we move on. 00:49:40 Speaker 2: I don't want anything to linger from your suspense, from your day off. Okay, fair enough, fair enough,
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